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Speaker 1: So when did the investigation into the Trump campaign open?

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Speaker 1: but you know, they might as well write that somehow

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Speaker 1: that's not going to taint their objectivity in looking at that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like we're not idiots, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's just all you have to do is apply the

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Speaker 1: common sense standard to most things in life, and common

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Speaker 1: sense typically prevails not for society, but if you actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, want to find the truth, it's typically just

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Speaker 1: what appears to be common sense. No, you're absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: and like the common sense standard is what you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to tell jurors. That's what we told them when we

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Speaker 1: were when I was trying cases before before juries and

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Speaker 1: state in federal court. And the truth is, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, what you know, those who in government.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I served for sixteen years, that was

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Speaker 1: the mission and it just got torn to shred intentionally

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Speaker 1: by government agents. I mean, that's what led me to

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Speaker 1: write a children's book on Russia Gate. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: plot against the king isn't a political story. It's not

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Speaker 1: you should be a conservative or liberal or democratic Republican.

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Speaker 1: Those words don't even appear in the pages. But I

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Speaker 1: thought the biggest criminal scandal to occur to American modern

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Speaker 1: history should that truth should be told to our children.

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Speaker 1: So we said it in medieval times with the characters

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Speaker 1: like Hillary Clinton and a shifty Night and a duke

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Speaker 1: named Devon. You know, we had fun with it, but

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Speaker 1: we told them the importance of doing finding the truth,

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Speaker 1: going on a quest for the truth. And the illustrations

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Speaker 1: are hilarious and they're fun, and the fact that Google

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Speaker 1: and Amazon just shut the book down is is laughable.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the Humpington's Post is do hit pieces

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Speaker 1: on me because I wrote a children's book about Russia

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Speaker 1: Gate just means to me, what the same thing that

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Speaker 1: was five years ago we're so over the target. They

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Speaker 1: hate the fact that we discovered the truth and now

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Speaker 1: they're triggered that we're educating the truths to our kids.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and and selfishly, if I can say,

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Speaker 1: the Plot against the King dot Com is where you

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Speaker 1: get the book. But it's the number one kid's book

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Speaker 1: in the country. And and I'm gonna keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: I think we have two more books now coming. It's

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Speaker 1: been so popular about telling the truth to our kids.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. And and also just do process right, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm due process is something that separates the United States

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Speaker 1: from other countries. And I guess my broader concern and

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Speaker 1: all of this is we've just seen the breakdown and institutions,

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Speaker 1: trust institutions. We've seen the breakdown of due process, the

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Speaker 1: rule of law in America. And when you lose these

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Speaker 1: things that make America America like, we really just end

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Speaker 1: up descending into chaos. And then we descend into these

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Speaker 1: situations where you've got people in the January six Committee

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Speaker 1: not allowing for due process and to destroying lives just

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Speaker 1: based off of their political beliefs. The following is not

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Speaker 1: something I've ever discussed on on any interview I was

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Speaker 1: a public defender for eight years, and you know, when

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Speaker 1: I got there, I just went there because I thought

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Speaker 1: everybody deserved, as you said, due process and all the

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Speaker 1: rights in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not selectively,

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Speaker 1: but everybody. And you know, the public defender community is

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Speaker 1: largely a liberal community, and when I went there, I

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Speaker 1: would say, oh, I'm only going to do this case

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Speaker 1: or take that case. The same group of people that

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Speaker 1: as if they were the exclusive you know, warriors of

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Speaker 1: due process stopped talking to me when Donald Trump got

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Speaker 1: was just shocked to learn that they could actually selectively

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Speaker 1: apply due process to their targets that they wanted and

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Speaker 1: then only allowed you process for their clients that they

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Speaker 1: thought had the right to it. I didn't know due

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Speaker 1: process was something that was hijacked by the liberal left.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was just extraordinary to me to learn

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Speaker 1: that lesson and those people haven't called me in eight years, um,

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Speaker 1: which just shows you how divided and how how how

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Speaker 1: how hypocritical. Um. Folks in government can be and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was one of the most stinging lessons

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Speaker 1: I've learned. But do process, as you said, it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be the bedrock of our society. It's why it

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Speaker 1: was a public defender and a prosecutor, one of the

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Speaker 1: few people to ever do that. And um, it's selective

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Speaker 1: application in January six just is an extension of their hypocrisy.

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Speaker 1: Now they're throwing out not just subpoenas, but they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're putting out subpoenas but criminal indictments because they want

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Speaker 1: this narrative to carry on that Donald Trump tried to

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Speaker 1: quote unquote hijack the election or do a coup or

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Speaker 1: all this false information. And now the committee itself is on.

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Speaker 1: I think they took a day long pause because there's

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Speaker 1: so much in fighting they can't get their stories straight.

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Speaker 1: Um that this is what happens when you lead with

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Speaker 1: politics and not the facts. So I think this Commission's

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Speaker 1: days are are numbered, and America's at least most of

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Speaker 1: America is hip to the fact that they're putting out disinformation. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you know now they're going after Jenny Thomas Clarence.

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Speaker 1: Justice Clarence Thomas is. I mean, they're just using it

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Speaker 1: as a way to hit people that they don't like.

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Speaker 1: But I mean Trump was right when he said everything

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Speaker 1: turns to ship because they've ruined everything right that, But

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Speaker 1: it's true, like the f the left is ruined, the FBI,

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Speaker 1: the left is ruined, the d o J the left

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Speaker 1: is room to the NFL, the left is ruined. You know,

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Speaker 1: they left is ruined, the even tainting the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: which with the leak of the reverse way to pit right,

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Speaker 1: like they've literally ruined everything in America, and like all

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Speaker 1: of our issues really stem from them. But I know

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Speaker 1: we both got some time constraints, so I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask you, do you think there's ever going to be

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Speaker 1: any accountability from this with the Special Counsel John Durham's investigation.

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Speaker 1: Been one of the few proponents of John Durham since

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Speaker 1: the beginning, because I know how long it takes to

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Speaker 1: put together these types of prosecutions. It takes years and years,

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Speaker 1: and he's on year two to an alf and he's

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Speaker 1: got a team of like five folks. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I say it is because and for those in your

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Speaker 1: audience who want to dive into the details, go to

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Speaker 1: durham Watch dot com totally free, where we constantly put

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Speaker 1: up all the information, all the pleadings. But he leveled.

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Speaker 1: He laid out a joint venture conspiracy and as you know, Lisa,

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Speaker 1: that's a legal term. Um during the Sussmen prosecution, where

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Speaker 1: he told the federal court under oath, i'm I have

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Speaker 1: many more targets to this investigation. This is just one

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Speaker 1: of them. The targets include the Fusion GPS is of

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Speaker 1: the world. They include tech executive Rodney Joffe, where John

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Speaker 1: Durham explicitly said the man continues to be a target.

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Speaker 1: They include Fusion GPS who will perpetuate this fraud, Glenn

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Speaker 1: Simpson and Company. And it includes FBI agents who admitted

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Speaker 1: during the Sussman case on the witness stand that they

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Speaker 1: are targets of a federal investigation for lying while overseeing

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Speaker 1: the Russia Gate hopes. So all of this information leads

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Speaker 1: me to believe that John Durham is building a criminal

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Speaker 1: conspiracy case um that takes time. I think he utilized

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Speaker 1: the Suspen trial knowing it was going to be in

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Speaker 1: d C and knowing it's gonna likely be very tough

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Speaker 1: to get a connection. But look at all the information

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Speaker 1: he's put out there, everything I just talked to you about,

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Speaker 1: and all the targets he has publicly said our targets

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Speaker 1: of his investigation. So I think this summer you're going

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Speaker 1: to see a couple of more indictments against the FBI

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Speaker 1: and the likes of Fusion GPS, and you know, encourage

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Speaker 1: people to go to durhmawatch dot com and read all

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Speaker 1: the transcripts and testimony for yourselves that we did during

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Speaker 1: our Russia Gate investigation, which John Durham is now using

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Speaker 1: those documents in his prosecution of the people um who

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Speaker 1: perpetuated this fraud. I don't think it'll go to Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: James Comey, that'll that'll be in the Durham report at

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Speaker 1: the very end. But I think we will have some

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Speaker 1: form of meaningful accountability by the time we u we

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Speaker 1: see this year come to a close. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it's possible to get justice in the swamp. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: why I made a big point in on you know,

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Speaker 1: on after the last verdict, that these cases need to

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Speaker 1: be brought outside of the swamp, and at least the

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Speaker 1: den Shanko case, the one sets for trial in the

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Speaker 1: fall Dan chanco is Christopher Steel. Source that John Durham

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Speaker 1: is indicted is in Virginia. Um, you know John Durham,

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Speaker 1: I've publicly advised him. I don't know. I haven't talked

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Speaker 1: to him personally. But these cases can be brought elsewhere

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Speaker 1: in the country because they can find jurisdiction elsewhere. They

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Speaker 1: don't have to be brought in and around d C.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what John durhams one flaw as these

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Speaker 1: two by the book in the Department of Justice guidelines

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Speaker 1: recommend to you where you can bring cases and and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But I think he should start bringing them elsewhere so

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Speaker 1: he can show America that, you know, there is no

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Speaker 1: more of this two standard tier of justice. Um, they've

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Speaker 1: they've seen what the swamp produces and that's why they

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Speaker 1: that's why they can't stand it. So hopefully bring some

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Speaker 1: of these cases in the future away from Washington. Yeah. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: hopefully the assessment verdict has opened his eyes to up

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Speaker 1: against Cash. But tell I appreciate your time. The plot

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Speaker 1: against the King it is out, now go get it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the left wing meet it hates it, which means

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Speaker 1: that Cash is doing something right. So I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you, and uh, you know, good

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Speaker 1: luck with the book and congrats on the success so far.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, we'll talk to you and have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: That was cast until really enjoyed the interview with him.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's seen it from the inside, so he knows

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Speaker 1: what's up. So and I think it's good to revisit

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Speaker 1: this right Like, if the media doesn't want us to

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Speaker 1: talk about it, then we should talk about it. So

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Speaker 1: that was the point of that. If you enjoy the show,

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Speaker 1: please go to Apple get us five stars, leave us

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Speaker 1: a review. As always, thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Please share this with your friends,

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Speaker 1: your family, social media. Get the word out every Monday,

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Speaker 1: every Thursday. And I want to thank my executive producer,

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Speaker 1: John Cassio for putting the show together. Thanks everyone,