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Speaker 2: Well, welcome everyone. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. I'm Matt Jones.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, March the twenty third. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: and Mario rolled into Lexington a little after midnight last

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Speaker 2: night listening to basketball all the way back on Westwood

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Speaker 2: next for the UK basketball program. And the UK women

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Speaker 2: Let's just talk about yesterday drew, What were your thoughts

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Speaker 5: Like everyone else, extremely disappointed in how it ended. I

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Speaker 2: By how you could do that on that stage. Here

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Speaker 2: All year we've talked about substitution patterns, adjustments and giving

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, why don't you you You would know as

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Speaker 5: I thought there's a lot of over the top stuff

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Speaker 5: Mario get some message shanding from DraftKings, and DraftKings says, hey,

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Speaker 5: were doing me. Ryan's eyes go, wait a minute, why

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Speaker 4: That Ryan was doing that with the YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Buddy, start investing in just getting five dollars to save

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Speaker 2: people's names. Well, all right, so now what I guess

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Speaker 6: Yeah, get one more Coaches show tonight.

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Speaker 5: He probably would have loved the interview between Sunday and

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Speaker 5: Monday they interviewing Brandon Stockton, like, what is the hope?

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Speaker 2: No offense to brand and Stocktor, but you I mean,

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Speaker 2: This is the state of Kentucky. Here's what went right,

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Speaker 2: You need to acknowledge that. You need to like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: NCAA tournament game. Let's let's dilute both of them. That's great,

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, the Max Snuffy.

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Speaker 2: Game, let's start with Let's start with Colin Chandler. Percentage chance.

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Speaker 2: I will say eighty five, Yeah, eighty five, Shannon, seventy

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Speaker 5: I'll run it back at eighty five. I like that

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Speaker 5: spot those time. Okay, fifty.

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Speaker 2: He's been asking about it all year. I've seen this

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Speaker 2: I just can't see them letting that local talent get away.

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Speaker 2: But Ryan makes me worried because he knows all these people.

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Speaker 2: He probably played grade school basketball with the you know,

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Speaker 2: eighty Okay, Cam Williams.

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Speaker 6: Seventy five, sixty five, Shandon seventy.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go seventy five. So sh Ryan's the

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Speaker 4: Just just for the Ryne doesn't thing anybody is ke r.

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Speaker 2: Ryan thinks we're gonna have no players next year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you buy day? I feel pretty good about him too.

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Speaker 2: I'll put him. I'll say seventy five for him, I'll

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Speaker 2: go forty five. Shannon sixty five, I'll go fifty. I'm

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Speaker 2: not as confident because I've heard no buzz about him returning,

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Speaker 2: so it's hard for me to Brandon Garrison. Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: this is a wild card.

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Speaker 5: That is because I know Pope still loves him, but

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Speaker 2: I'll say forty on Garrison, Yeah, forty five.

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Speaker 3: Let's hope it's like ten because he's the guy I

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Speaker 2: Time G Time had a BG time, I can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would be fine with him being back a bas time,

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Speaker 4: What one game out of how many?

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Speaker 2: Hey, we lose that game? Wait it was twice in

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Speaker 4: Enjoy your BG time, jaylen.

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Speaker 5: Low, I have no idea what they're gonna do with

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say twenty because I think there's just been

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Speaker 2: be looking into his comments he's come to media, aren't great. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I could see him be in a Travis Ferry type

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Speaker 4: I want to go twenty.

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Speaker 5: I'll say seventy forty, seventy seventy. I just to think,

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Speaker 5: if it's up to Trent, he would stay. It's what's

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Speaker 5: Kentucky's role going to be for him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go twenty.

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Speaker 6: Five forty Okay?

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Speaker 2: Whom I missing here? Jasper Jasper Ryan one? One? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll also say one. I don't want to be too negative.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'll be the optimistic one to go ten.

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Speaker 2: Three. Wow, it just didn't go well. Triple the chance.

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Speaker 4: Of these two, Yeah he did.

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Speaker 2: There's three times as much of a chance for me,

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Speaker 2: Shannon as then I gave a ten off as much.

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Speaker 6: He just needs a fresh start somewhere, I think, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then is there anyone else? I think that's it?

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Speaker 6: I mean Yellow Yellovich, Oh, yeah, Yellovich Hawthorn.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I assume one hundred if he like

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Speaker 5: But yes, Yellovich, Oh man, he seems to really like it,

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Speaker 5: and honestly, he was. He's one of the favorite people

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Speaker 5: when he was like, no, fatigue is not an excuse,

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Speaker 5: I'm root for him to come back. I'll say fifty,

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Speaker 6: I go forty, kind of close to fifty fifty, but

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Speaker 4: I go forty, I'll go thirty thirty five somewhere around.

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Speaker 2: Now, I go twenty five. I haven't heard any buzz

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Speaker 2: that would suggest to me that he would be back,

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Speaker 2: So I'm clearly leaning on a lot of returns. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Tyron stokes the Bill Self situation, with the understanding that

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Speaker 6: Fifteen, Yeah, twenty five, change him twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go fifty. But yeah, I think what's gonna

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Speaker 2: we vastly overpay, but we do it because we feel

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Speaker 6: That's my They got to get somebody to just for

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Speaker 2: And it's also interesting, like a couple of these, like

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Speaker 6: A guyde commits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: That world is not really my my world anymore. But

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Speaker 2: This is KSR when welcome back, take you sports radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me run through a few things at

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Speaker 2: in postgame that I think are kind of interesting. What

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Speaker 7: Not a good look when opposing player says that about

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Speaker 2: There were games this year where we came back, yes,

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Speaker 2: We thought they would quit, and in this case, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think. I don't think they quit exactly, but they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that guy was kind of a villain. I watched

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Speaker 5: this whole interview. He also said we weren't really sure

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Speaker 5: and then he said it was fun watching Kentucky fans

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Speaker 2: That was a nice bonus.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so he he chose violence in his comments, But

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Speaker 5: I do think they probably cherry picked games to watch

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Speaker 2: One person rights Matt I was at at the game.

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Speaker 2: Part of what made me sad is we didn't have

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Speaker 2: the usual Kentucky turnout. True, but it wasn't bad. I

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Speaker 2: actually think the Kentucky Iowa State contingents were relatively the same.

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Speaker 2: The difference was there were a lot of Purdue people. Yes,

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Speaker 2: But I would say Kentucky and ISA State had about

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Speaker 4: To on TV. It sounded like it was all Iowa

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Speaker 2: Well that was because they were making all the shots

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Speaker 4: Maybe so, but you know, there were a lot of

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Speaker 7: They despite all that happened, where you're still got a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a huge We talked about that in

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Speaker 2: the post game show, that little play where well, first

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Speaker 2: The stat of the game is Denzel Aberdeen thirty seven

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Speaker 2: minutes played with him and the game minus five with

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Speaker 5: And then you know, the moment they make that sub,

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Speaker 2: And same thing in the second half. Yep. I mean

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you called it too.

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Speaker 7: You said they're gonna hit a shot and go up

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Speaker 2: Feel it as far as the crowd, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: But the university has to look itself in the face

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Speaker 2: I really don't. I think he tries. You know, I

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Speaker 2: They've raised prices. They've also kind of gone away from

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Speaker 2: who earn more revenue, cut more expenses, go cats? Oh

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Speaker 2: see you tes cuts cuts cuts, I mean that's you know,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky fans are are valued, Kentucky fans show up. I

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Speaker 2: go look at Mark Pope's press conference, right, just go

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Speaker 2: look at anything. When Kentucky fans feel valued, they will

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Speaker 6: I'd get it.

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Speaker 7: Also, it goes way back, even what they did to

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Speaker 2: Like ten years ago. That was like in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 5: Part of the reason Saint Louis was hurt too. And

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Speaker 2: They're like, I was invested as I could be. I

437
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Speaker 2: can't make the trip to say we play Friday, Yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: after already doing the week before. Yeah. No, there's a

439
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 2: little bit of that. And we treat the SEC tournament

440
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Speaker 2: very serious. I think if we'd been gone to Chicago,

441
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Speaker 2: if we'd won, we would have a bajillion and make

442
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Speaker 2: it excited, right, So I do think there's there there's

443
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Speaker 2: part of that as well. The other thing is it's

444
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Speaker 2: weird chanting when when when I put a KSR kind

445
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Speaker 2: of inside joke out there, and then the world that

446
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: doesn't understand KSR gets involved, right because I tweeted that,

447
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 2: everyone knows I almost leave the game, yeah, or do

448
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: leave almost usually I usually leave, And then of course

449
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: people know about the referee incident. Yeah, So I thought

450
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: it would be funny because I did come close to

451
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: wanting to yell at that referee, and I just thought

452
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Speaker 2: it would be funny. I decided I had to leave

453
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Speaker 2: the game because we were gonna lose. So I was like, oh,

454
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Speaker 2: I almost got so mad at the referee I left,

455
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean I really was. I wasn't gonna

456
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Speaker 2: get kicked off a press road yelling at the referee.

457
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Speaker 2: I just needed to leave the building because I was

458
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Speaker 2: getting nervous. And I tweeted that out and then I

459
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Speaker 2: became a symbol of what's wrong with the media, Like

460
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Speaker 2: all these dudes, all these dudes who work for like

461
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Speaker 2: Longhorn in your Face thirty seven, are like, this is

462
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Speaker 2: what's wrong with our profession. I want to be like. Listen,

463
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Speaker 2: you'll snot I was doing this when you were a baby.

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Speaker 2: Shut up. You know the reason Longhorn in Your Face

465
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Speaker 2: twenty seven gets credentialed is because people like us fought

466
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Speaker 2: for it, which of course makes me sound child right

467
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Speaker 2: you wal I walked, I got denied so you could

468
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Speaker 2: get like, but they did. You know, That's what happens

469
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Speaker 2: all these people. I became like the symbol for fan journalist.

470
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Speaker 2: You know, one of our entities is still working and

471
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Speaker 2: some of these others aren't. But hey, I'm the media

472
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Speaker 2: tries to police other people.

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Speaker 5: I don't know you. I don't work for you, I

474
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Speaker 5: don't work with you. We're not friends, never even met you.

475
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Speaker 5: Why do you care what I'm wearing?

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Speaker 2: Well? I mean, you look good the UK stuff. Complain

477
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Speaker 2: about that. We'll take a break. Take your calls right

478
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Speaker 2: for this. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll

479
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Speaker 2: make them pay now more.

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Speaker 3: Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 4: Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. Tukey Sports Radio A five nine two eight

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Speaker 2: twenty two eighty seven, text Machine seven seven two seven

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Speaker 2: seven four five two five four One person writes, Matt

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Speaker 2: with Drew leave a restaurant if his baby was as

486
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Speaker 2: cranky as the one on the postgame show. Oh yeah,

487
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Speaker 2: that was wild you all.

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Speaker 5: When you first made the comment, I thought on Matt's

489
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Speaker 5: probably being a little harsh on a baby being there.

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Speaker 5: And then I heard that first scream and it actually

491
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Speaker 5: I had pretty good laugh listen to it, and it

492
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Speaker 5: just continued the whole show. So it sounded like you

493
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Speaker 5: were giving your headset to the baby to scream to

494
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Speaker 5: the listeners.

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Speaker 2: And it was the baby was just it was a lot,

496
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Speaker 2: and it was fitting. You're trying to have this big

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Speaker 2: picture talk about Pope.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're in your serious tongue. And then Mario

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Speaker 5: eating all the food also laughed at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario, just wait till we start to show eat

501
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Speaker 2: all our food. You were doing a radio show, I know,

502
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Speaker 2: so he was like, now's my time to eat all

503
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Speaker 2: the food.

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What versus rights? Matt, do you agree with what Cal's

506
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: been saying recently about coaches win games administration win championships

507
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Speaker 2: to Kentucky fans? Owe him an apology? No. On the

508
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Speaker 2: second thing, I do agree with him on coaches win

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Speaker 2: games administrations. Win championships. But but but Cal has a

510
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Speaker 2: revisions history about UK. He thinks he didn't win championships

511
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Speaker 2: because of Midge. I'm not saying Mitch gave the best

512
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Speaker 2: support or not. Those two hated each other. They blame me.

513
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Speaker 2: It's their relationship. All bad relationships are a two way street, right,

514
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: Ksr's bad relationship with Cal. We deserve some of the blame.

515
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Speaker 2: I would argue he deserves more of it. But you

516
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Speaker 2: know what, whatever, But it's not. No one is innocent

517
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Speaker 2: in those scenarios. But the team that lost to Oakland

518
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: had everyone you could want. He had an elite college

519
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Speaker 2: train for He had the number three pick in the draft,

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Speaker 2: the number eight pick in the draft, a dude who

521
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Speaker 2: went in the second round but played big minutes for

522
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Speaker 2: the seventy six ers. He had the best recruiting. Like,

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Speaker 2: come on, man, what else did you need on that team?

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Speaker 2: Mitch Barnhart ain't to blame for the fact that you

525
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Speaker 2: couldn't stop a dude who plays at the y MZA

526
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Speaker 2: from going off on you. That's not Mitch Barnhardt's that game.

527
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Speaker 2: And like that, Am I right about that? That ain't

528
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Speaker 2: banging his fault.

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Speaker 6: Got nothing to do with the ad or the administration.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Now, in general, I agree with that, but

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Speaker 2: I think he's used. He's taking this chance to take

532
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Speaker 2: little jabs, especially Mitch, and I get it. That's him,

533
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Speaker 2: that's who he is, and that's fine, and that's between

534
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Speaker 2: you know. That's my name's Paul, and that's between y'all.

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Speaker 2: But you didn't lose to Oakland because Mitch didn't get

536
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Speaker 2: you in IL. And part of the reason you didn't

537
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Speaker 2: get in it was you, sir. A lot of the

538
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Speaker 2: people didn't want to give you money anymore. So go ahead, Jack.

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Speaker 8: Warnfel's to observation, not an observation. I found this is

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Speaker 8: relevant to Indiana Kentucky. I found an old magazine about

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Speaker 8: two months ago and on Sports Illustrated, and there's a

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Speaker 8: picture of an Indiana player and a Kentucky player going

543
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Speaker 8: up for a rebound. On the cover, the Kentucky players

544
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Speaker 8: Charles Hurd, there's an insert of Bobby Knight and Joe Hall,

545
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Speaker 8: and the headline is Kentucky College of Basketball's Biggest war.

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Speaker 8: Those two programs are totally irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you guys got to stop comparing this. It's

548
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Speaker 2: not totally Indiana is not even Indian doesn't even go

549
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Speaker 2: to the tournament. We are not irrelevant?

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Speaker 9: All right, We're close, now We're not?

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, we're not. Why do you think that

552
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Speaker 2: game was in CBS and a time slot with nothing

553
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Speaker 2: else playing? Is it because we're irrelevant? Is it because

554
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Speaker 2: you think everybody wanted to tune in to see Iowa

555
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Speaker 2: State play? Now? Are we winning to level? Are we winning.

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Speaker 8: What they tuned in to watch Kentucky exactly?

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Speaker 2: So we're not irrelevant?

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Speaker 8: Well?

559
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Speaker 9: I think I mean you just answered your own question.

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Speaker 2: They tuned in to watch us. We are not irrelevant?

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Speaker 2: Now are we good enough? No? Are we? Are we

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00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: on the path that's towards downgrade? Yes? But you can't

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Speaker 2: say we're irrelevant when you agree with me that people

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Speaker 2: tuned in to watch us.

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Speaker 8: I think we're trying to I'll clean this up. We're

566
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Speaker 8: trying to pick nat crap out of pepper here. We're

567
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Speaker 8: trying to find something positive. And now I'll move on

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Speaker 8: to this.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I'll ask this to all of you. If something is

571
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Speaker 8: absolutely inevitable in life, in your lives, it's absolutely inevitable.

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Speaker 8: I know collor collegiate sports deals strictly when contractual obligations.

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Speaker 8: Why can't you cut ties?

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Speaker 2: Well? But you because you're making it a sound and

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're making it. You're

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Speaker 2: coming to a conclusion because you're making an assumption. Not

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00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: everyone would agree with. Your assumption. Is it's inevitable Mark

578
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Speaker 2: Pope's gonna fail. That's your assumption. Maybe you'll be right,

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Speaker 2: but that's an assumption. That's not a conclusion. You don't

580
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Speaker 2: know that. So that's why saying if I knew for certain,

581
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Speaker 2: and I appreciate the call, if I felt like I

582
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: felt for certain, Mark Stoops was not going to bring

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Speaker 2: it back, So it's time to make a change. I'm

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Speaker 2: not there yet with Mark Pope. Maybe you are, and

585
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Speaker 2: I that's fine if you are. I'm not even saying

586
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: you're wrong. But in order to say cut ties, you

587
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: have to think it's inevitable he'll fail. And I'm just

588
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Speaker 2: not there yet.

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Speaker 5: And I don't have a lot of optimism in Mark Pope.

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Speaker 5: But just for the school, as we're making cuts, we

591
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Speaker 5: can't just keep paying buy out after buye. You're paying Stoops.

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Speaker 5: I know popes buy out and huge, but we're already

593
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Speaker 5: got the Mitch thing. I mean they're talking about being efficient. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 5: they're talking about being efficient. You can't just keep firing

595
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Speaker 5: people in paying them lots of money. Now, if it

596
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: doesn't work out, then he should never been hired, and

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00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 5: that sits on someone else's shoulders who won't be working

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Speaker 5: here anymore. But you can't just keep firing people over

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Speaker 5: and over when it's not working. Yeah, not after two

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Speaker 5: years at least. I mean another behind it inevitable. He's

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Speaker 5: gonna fail, do you, Shannon?

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Speaker 2: No? No?

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Speaker 4: I mean this third year though, is going to be

604
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Speaker 4: make or break though.

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Speaker 2: If he comes out, if we have any then it's inevitable. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I give him and he's going to get

607
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Speaker 3: one more year regardless of what we think.

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Speaker 4: So he deserves one more year at least.

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Speaker 7: I'm curious to see what we say two months from now,

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Speaker 7: after he's got his roster pretty much built for next season.

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Speaker 6: How will we feel going into years.

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Speaker 2: I hope we all talk ourselves into it, because we

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Speaker 2: don't think that's really a bad will We talked ourselves,

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Speaker 2: Zach car And I'm not talking myself into a guy

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Speaker 2: like with Billy Gillespie, like that's posing with Roses in

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Speaker 2: eighth grade like Avery, I'm not doing that. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: for beating ball State. You know. Here's one of the

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Speaker 2: things that's kind of interesting now that we watched this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Mark did a good job scouting players. We just didn't

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Speaker 2: get them. Oh the top five he went after it

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Speaker 2: would have been by the end of the year, was

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Speaker 2: playing well for U c. L A. The dude Shannon

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Speaker 2: that hit the game winning shot against Florida. We thought

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Speaker 2: was coming here. What's his name for Guerrez from uh Morris?

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Speaker 2: We got did we got? But we thought he were

626
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Speaker 2: getting him he hit the big shot. I mean, scoop

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Speaker 2: over here had us ready for acting excellent. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was the first team All American like they looked as

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Speaker 2: in Indiana.

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Speaker 4: So we looked at the right guys.

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Speaker 2: We just didn't get anyho We.

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Speaker 4: Know who the good players are. We just can't get

633
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Speaker 4: him to come play here.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: Problem though that goes to the point of close. You

636
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Speaker 5: can find him, you can get him on the phone,

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Speaker 5: but you got to give him here.

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Speaker 2: And the question is why don't they get here, which

639
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Speaker 2: gets to the whole is it uk j my? Is

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Speaker 2: it Pope? We don't really know, but I kind of

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Speaker 2: feel like we'll know in two months too, and we'll

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Speaker 2: find out.

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Speaker 6: Mike.

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, Mike, so we're gonna give him a third year.

645
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Speaker 9: But how do you justify the poor evaluation of talent

646
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Speaker 9: they have and the amount of money that they spent

647
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Speaker 9: on this team? How can you just give up that

648
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 9: much money? Again?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's but that's what Jack Gibbons says. That worries me.

650
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: So I think the most worrisome thing that happened yesterday,

651
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Speaker 2: maybe the most worrisome thing of the day, was what

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Speaker 2: Jack Gibbons said on the post game show, and it

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Speaker 2: got little attention, But Jack just kind of threw in offhand,

654
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna have the nile to

655
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: get players next year like we did this year. They're

656
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: gonna have to make what they get work. How when

657
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: I heard that, we were in the car, yeah, and

658
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: I went.

659
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: He wouldn't have said that if he wasn't concerned about it.

660
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: That was an interesting comment for a guy well connected

661
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: to the program on the official postgame show to say,

662
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: And you pot you combine Jack Gibbons saying I don't

663
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: know if they're gonna have the money with Eli Cappeluto

664
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: saying cuts cuts cuts cuts. With Mark Pope saying we

665
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: got to start getting guys who want to play for

666
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: the front of the jersey, maybe not just the biggest.

667
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: You start to think, are they not planning on spending money?

668
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: So I appreciate the call. I am concerned about that.

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00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: I do wonder, like you know that none of those

670
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: people said they're gonna do whatever it takes. Jack saying

671
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: that is important, I think, and I think he's being

672
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: He wouldn't say it if he didn't believe it. But Ryan,

673
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: that was maybe the thing. When he said that, I

674
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, I've taken it as an assumption they'll

675
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: go get whoever they need to get. Maybe they're trying

676
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: to set us up for they're not gonna be able

677
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: to go get these guys. I think, are we running

678
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: this back?

679
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 7: Kentucky fans have always been expecting, well, just we were Kentucky,

680
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 7: we'll pay whatever we need you to get these players.

681
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 7: Just that what you just laid out right there doesn't

682
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 7: sound like that's gonna be in the plan.

683
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: Sounds like I always hear Yankees fans complain and Red

684
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Sox fans that they were used to go geting whoever

685
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: they want, and now they are all like, you know,

686
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: trying to balance a budget.

687
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 6: Uh huh kind of what it sounds like.

688
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 2: That's kind of what it sounded like.

689
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 5: Well, we just did that percentage exercise and I was

690
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: optimistic on returns. I wouldn't have said that five days ago.

691
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: Jack's comment in the back of my head, and Pope

692
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: even said straight up, we have a lot of good

693
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 5: young players. We got to start with retention, and that

694
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 5: kind of thought, well, we're running this back.

695
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to get people excited with that.

696
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see, but that I did find that

697
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: to be very Uh even if.

698
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Speaker 7: They do that, they still may need to make a

699
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 7: big splash with somebody again somebody.

700
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Speaker 5: But well, we talked about youts, we talked about not

701
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: having much star power. I mean, they won't have anything

702
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 5: close to it. Oh way, if they're just return returning.

703
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: With them, we're losing our two best players, right Our

704
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Speaker 2: two best players are gone. Stop overpaying for sunglasses. If

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Speaker 2: take more calls, koscler welcome back. Take you sports radio

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Speaker 2: A five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,

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Speaker 2: five four What person rights? What do you think about Oscar?

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Speaker 2: Combs tweets, Well, I mean when you lose Oscar, you

718
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: know part of it. Oscar really really loves Mark Pope

719
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: because they have a long relationship. So I think part

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Speaker 2: of where Oscar comes from is Oscar is going to

721
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Speaker 2: take up for Mark and if I and so he's going,

722
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: I think to blame the administration more than then Mark.

723
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: At the same time, I'll never dismiss anything he says

724
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: because he's seen more than any of us have, and

725
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: he is he went from he went middle fingers up

726
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: to the administration.

727
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 6: Yes he did.

728
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: So when people are like those ks R and Matt,

729
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: they're always negative, go look at Oscar and go go

730
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean you think we're negative. Go look at Oscar

731
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: I get it though. I mean his complaint is clearly

732
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: a Barnhart complaint and a president complaint. He was mad,

733
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: he's mad about the contract, He's mad about the ten

734
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: lifetime tickets. I'm shocked how many people are mad about

735
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: the ten lifetime tickets. Yeah, I'm in that crowd. Those

736
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: are expensive tickets. Yeah, and you could argue, like how

737
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: many people you need and if you would.

738
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Speaker 5: Sell those, You're you're saying, let's be more efficient. Why

739
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 5: are you giving away ten lower level tickets that come

740
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 5: with huge K fund donations and everything else?

741
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: So what would you would you be cool giving him two? Yes,

742
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: that's fine.

743
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 5: And also it says like if he passes away, the

744
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 5: family still gets them through his wife, Like what how

745
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: long do you need ten tickets?

746
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: Ten's a lot, though, Like nobody knows ten people shit,

747
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm not taking you know how hard

748
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: it would be to organize ten tickets to a game

749
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: and every game.

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00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we'll get it for the SEC tournament.

751
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: But that's once a year, I know.

752
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: But to say, like you get timed for the rest

753
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: of your wife, don't.

754
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have that.

755
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Many to pay for those. Yeah, stop paying for those,

756
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: and he's not paying for him. I mean, I get it.

757
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 2: Those are expensive seats that could be sold to someone. Yeah,

758
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: but we're on a budget cut, that's right, So we

759
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: need to give this guy who's leaving two million more dollars.

760
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: Be efficient, because that way we can be efficient. It's

761
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: very important in this new age to create new sources

762
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: of revenue. The first one is to give Mitch two

763
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: million dollars. That will be very creative in revenue in general.

764
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: But if you work for UK Athletics, don't you dare

765
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 5: ask for a raise in the next year.

766
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: Yes? Because efficiency. By the way, well let's just make

767
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: it twenty tickets. I get it, Brent, go ahead of Brent.

768
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 10: Hey, man, uh, you really got me worried about the

769
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 10: NIM I think last night I was listening to you

770
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 10: on the post game and that was the most worriousome

771
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 10: thing what you said about jet gibbons. When when will

772
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 10: we know it's nil? Is okay going forward?

773
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: Well, we don't know. We don't know because and this

774
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: goes to one of my worries when we sort of

775
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: sold the athletic department to a private company, basically is

776
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: that this stuff is not released. You know, now the

777
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: UK has claimed and I will take them at their

778
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: word that they will release everything the same way they

779
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: would if it was under the public scrutiny rules. We

780
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: will know that come those releases which will start to

781
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 2: come this summer about budgets, et cetera. But we don't

782
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: really know, and when questions are asked, we're told it's

783
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: garbage and shut up and that only two or three

784
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: people are mad. Yeah, I mean, so we don't know,

785
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: is the answer. I mean, so far we've asked just

786
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: on the question of why did Mitch get the extra

787
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: two million dollars because and other schools have done it,

788
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: So like, we don't know. So to answer your question,

789
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure we will for sure know what the

790
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: JMI commitment is, but the proof will have to be

791
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: in the pudding. We'll just see what players we get

792
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: come mid May.

793
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 10: So then my next question is if, like next year,

794
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 10: Nate Oates his contract drops down to an eight million

795
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 10: dollars buyout. Do you think if then it came in

796
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 10: and saw that the JMI I deal was that, can

797
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 10: we go to court or try to get JMI to

798
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 10: reach I don't. I don't know.

799
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: I mean that that I have no idea because I

800
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: don't know whether or not. I mean, I know the

801
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: university feels like the deal is good, right, so I

802
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: think it's very unlikely the university wants to end it.

803
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: So I think for I think JMI is not going anywhere.

804
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 2: So then the question of is it good is it bad?

805
00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Is something we'll learn more about. There are there's an

806
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: and I appreciate the call. There's evidence that there's some

807
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: really good parts of it. There's I think there's evidence

808
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: that I'm not sure how it works for our basketball program,

809
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: but the proof's in the pudding. Like, look, if they

810
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: go into portal season and they come out with a

811
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: great roster and then no one's gonna worry about it

812
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: if they don't, you know what the thing is? What

813
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: this is part of what worries me. I mean, I

814
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: gotta be honest. It's so hard to know what to

815
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: say in these scenarios because no matter what is said,

816
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: there are people to get angry. So the only thing

817
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: I can do is be honest. Everyone behind the scenes

818
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: is pointing their fingers at each other. Right, they won't

819
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: explicitly say it, but they're very much like, these problems

820
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: are happening, not our fault. Go look ow there, and

821
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: then you go over there, and they go, not our fault,

822
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: bull over there, and the only thing they can agree

823
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: on is they can all go. But really the fall

824
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: is you people the media. Well yeah, but when the

825
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: cameras aren't on you guys tell us privately it's other

826
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 2: people's fault. So I don't know. I think it's a mess.

827
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: I think the whole thing is a mess. I think

828
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: there needs to be a rearrange I think it's salvageable,

829
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: but there needs to be a rearrangement. They need to

830
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: use this time with Mitch leaving to completely change how

831
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: everything's done, to quit having a centralized power structure of

832
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: four people that make all the decisions and get into

833
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: the modern age. Do you am I wrong?

834
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Speaker 10: No?

835
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Speaker 7: And that can think you made the argument for the

836
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 7: people that think they need to hire somebody from the

837
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 7: outside of that position.

838
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Speaker 2: I think there needs to be somebody. You need to

839
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: do what companies do when they're failing, which is you

840
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: bring in somebody that has no connection to anybody and say,

841
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: look at this and tell us what we're doing. Right, Yep?

842
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: Because here's the problem. I've been doing this twenty years.

843
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: The same people are in charge that were in charge

844
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, the same people in like every position.

845
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Now it seems like natural attrition is going to start

846
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: changing a lot of these things. They need somebody to

847
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: come in that doesn't know who any of us are

848
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: and come in and go, all right, this house is dysfunctional.

849
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: How do we put it back in track? And here's

850
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: the thing. Privately, everyone that doesn't have a platform all

851
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 2: agrees with me. Talk to the rank and file member

852
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: of the athletics department, the basketball staff, the presidential office.

853
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: Not the big voices, but the secondary voices will all say, Matt,

854
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: you're exactly right. We need somebody to come in and

855
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: restart this. But nobody can say it publicly because the

856
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: loud voices just go nothing's wrong, and media are bad

857
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: and fans are unrealistic. But go talk to the people

858
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: that work in If they don't tell you that am.

859
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: I wrong, No at all, We're just knuckleheads.

860
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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Come back. I number two it

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Speaker 2: skoz Are