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And Matt, 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the Steelers draft, um, 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna talk about the first round pick, obvious, of course, 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: but I really think that these next three picks that 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: they made, they're more interesting. George pickens to Marvin Leell 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: and Calvin Austin. Those are going to define this draft. 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Quarterback in round one has been talked to death, including 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: by us, and just because they made the pick doesn't 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: change our thoughts on all that. The day to stuff 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: and as well as Austin, to me, are very exciting, 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: our really maybe better than I would have predicted they 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: ended up with and could, as you said, it might 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: define the draft for years. Aco. Yeah, I really think, 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, I would be willing to bet they had 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: a very high grade on George Pickens um and we're 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: glad to take him at twenty Um. I think I 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: think they had a high grade onto Marvin Leo. I 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: think he's probably higher than a third round grade on him. 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: And I know they had more than a fourth round grade, 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: higher than a fourth round grade on Calvin Austin, without question, 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: without question, and um Leal sat down with us and 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: told us some things like, boy, I really got to 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: know Carl Dunbar, the Steelers d line coach, and that 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: was the only pro day that Dunbar went to and he, 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, he kept saying, I don't think he's blowing smoke. 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't wait to put that Steeler hat 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: on sitting there next to me, And I knew as 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: we a stealer all along, and I know prospects say 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: that thing, those things, and he'd end up have a 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: hat from all thirty two teams sitting all right. And 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Frisbane Jackson, the wide receiver coach, really had his hands 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: on Pickens as as well. If you if you remember 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: back to the Georgia pro day, if you saw the video, 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: Frisman Jackson was working out and right behind him was 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin standing there watching. Yes, And I had heard 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot of rumblings that Pickens to the Steelers is 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: a real thing, and that turned out to be true, 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: and I see why. I mean, yeah, the skuy's a 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: limit for Pickens, you know. I think if you look 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: at the the comps on him, um, you know it's 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: as prototypical X or C. Evers old school lineup at 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, first man coverage, number one receiver types. Yeah, 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: and they're just you know, there weren't many of those 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: guys in this draft. There were a lot of the Okay, 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: he's six foot hundred hundred eighty five pounds, he'll be 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: a nice number two. I mean, there's so many Pickens 62 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: is the guy, this is the swing for the fence. Yeah, yeah, 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean he could be better than Johnson or Claypool. 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: He could. He could as he could be the best 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver and draft. Yes, I think there's a very 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: good chance he is. I think it's him. And you know, 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: he and Jamison Williams were the guys that you looked at. Man, 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: if they if they hadn't had those A C. L. Tears, 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: they might have gone one and two in terms of 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: the quarter of the wide receiver position. I wonder what 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Pickens would be thought of if he didn't get hurt 72 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: ever at Georgia and just kept on his trajectory after 73 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: his freshman year. I mean, I'm not just saying this 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: because he's a Steeler, but if those things would have happened, 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I think he's in the first overall conversation. Yeah. Really, 76 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's a I wanna say Jamar Chase, but 77 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean like a top five type receiver. That's what 78 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: he looked like on his last really good film, which 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: was freshman year and so but there's questions, you know, 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: there are questions, and that's why he you know, he's 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: in the second round here, the biggest being that injury. 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's going to it's not gonna 83 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: affect his long term. But you just didn't have it. 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: You just didn't have any a lot of tape. You 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: just didn't And he did play to end his career 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: um clearly not at but I mean it's not like 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be ready for camp or any of 88 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: those type of things. It's not like a Jamison Williams situation. 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: But he showed you that he's a competitor big time 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: coming back. And I get it. You want to come, well, 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: we have a chance to win a national championship. Yeah, 92 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: but a lot of business decisions are absolutely there are 93 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: guys that that you know didn't play and I want 94 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: to put subpart tape out there and knowingly that I 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: cost myself a lot of money, right right, right, or 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: maybe reaggravate the injury. There's a lot to lose there. 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: There's a little ton to loose. You know, if he 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: retears that a c L he doesn't get drafted at all. No, right, right, right? 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: He ends up like the Clemson kid or you know 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: justin Ross Ross Russ. Yeah, I mean who still I don't. 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I still don't think he signed with the team. I 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: don't know, which is a shame. That's terrible, and I'm 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: sure it's just a meta with those two. That's a 104 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: good that's a good comparison there two or two years ago. 105 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: They were right right, five stars and all that. One 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: one doesn't get drafted because not only did he you know, 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: had the he had a foot issue as well. That's 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: that final year. Um, you know that, that's what can happen. 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: You know, he cost yourself hundreds of thousands of dollars, 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: if not millions of dollars, and that's what he risked 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: to come back, and by all accounts, his teammates unbelievably 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: appreciated it and all that. And he plays hard, I 113 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: mean sometimes too hard. Yeah, saying he's got a little 114 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: bit of a reputation, people say there's some off the field. 115 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: It's not like he's a bad guy or a criminal 116 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: or malicious or any of that, but it sounds like 117 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: he's a little entitled. It's how people, it's the third 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: fourth hand information. Of course, he was a five star 119 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: recruit that was a big man on campus at Georgia 120 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: from day one. This game came easy to him. But 121 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he lacks like work ethic. You don't 122 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: see him dogging on the field at all. He's a 123 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: really good blocker too. I mean he's paving the way 124 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: for Nick Chubb and those guys. They run the ball 125 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: over Georgia right exactly, and they don't play if you 126 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: don't block. So Competitiveness, big personalities, um, I think those 127 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: are traits of the Steelers will definitely uh not have 128 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: a problem within that wide receiver room, and they've handled 129 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: it better than anything position in general. If you're not 130 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: a diva, you know, like the one that that I've 131 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: dealt with in the last few years who wasn't a 132 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: diva was James Washington. But if you're not a star, 133 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: so what right? Maybe he could have used a little 134 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: more to you, you know what I mean, a little 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: more selfishness and give me the ball. And that's the 136 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing with that position, I know. You know. Look, 137 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: I did a radio show with Antonio Brown for several years, 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: and so I got to know him a little bit 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: more than better than most. And I never got the 140 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: idea with Antonio that he wanted the ball just because 141 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: he wanted the ball he wanted. He always wanted the 142 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: ball because he thought he was the best option to 143 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: get to win the game. And he was usually right, 144 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: and he was usually right. Yeah, get him the football, 145 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: good things happen. We win when I end up with 146 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: a twenty yards right, you know, right, And so you 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: know when you when you're losing and he's only gotten 148 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: four catches or whatever, then yeah, he's gonna be he's 149 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: gonna be pissed about it. Yeah. And then there's a 150 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: million you know examples Michael Irvin, Randy moss On and on. 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they do flare up on the sideline here and 152 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: there or give me the damn but competitive competitive, they 153 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: want to win, like uh, going down a tangent here. 154 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: But I spent a lot of time with former Butch 155 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Davis and that whole Brown staff, and they talked about 156 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: the U and they were like Michael Irvin was the 157 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: leader of the team. I mean he was. He was 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the one we were all afraid of. And you know, 159 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: he comes across as a diva, but because he wants 160 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: to win. It's just all driven from competitiveness that I 161 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: can handle. I mean, you know, violence against women or 162 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: something like that, stand all that, But if you're gonna 163 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: if you're here because you want to win, to the degree, 164 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. You better be competitive if you 165 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: want to play in this league. And it's just so. 166 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Smon is the perfect guy to handle something like that. 167 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: Here some stuff before you, No doubt, no doubt. I 168 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: don't get that sense from Calvin Austin. I've heard nothing 169 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: like that. I think he's a high pedigree, high quality 170 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: like you know, no nonsense. You know, the guy was 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: a walk on at Memphis because he went during a 172 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: track scholarship. He can't have to scholarships in different sports 173 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: as to bear Bryant role, because apparently Bear used to 174 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: do that down in Alabama. He just you ever seen 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: the pool no swim swimmer. So yeah, but he's not 176 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: a track athlete turn football player. It's not the way, right. 177 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: He's a football player first, who just happened to run track. 178 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Was also very fast. Yes, yeah, I like that pick 179 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: of time. The l of size and him doesn't bother 180 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: me um like it would with some other smaller guys 181 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: because he plays bigger than he is. I think people 182 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: think he's dree Archer. Dree Archer. Here's the here's the difference. Okay. 183 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: First of all, Dree Archer played in the MAC right, 184 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: so he was the fastest guy in the field every 185 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: single time he took the field. Um skinny, he was skinny. 186 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: He was a running back who they were trying to Okay, 187 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna put him out and when we try to 188 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: do some wide receiver stuff with him, that's not what 189 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: he does. This guy's a wider. This guy is a 190 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: route runner, a guy who played outside receiver and very 191 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: high percentage of the time. He's not even just a 192 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: slot or a gadget guy, you know. And he's an 193 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: outside receiver that can do other things. I heard an 194 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: interview with Sauce Gardner where he was asked who was 195 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the toughest receiver that he went against in college, and 196 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: he said, he said, Calvin Austin. It doesn't blow me away. 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he gets off press coverage. He has some 198 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: physicality to him. He's unbelievably fast, he has good body control, 199 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: balling his hands. He's a nightmare. You know. Tim You're 200 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna try to press him early on in his NFL 201 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: career until he beats it and gets behind and so 202 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: he handles it well at to college level. I mean 203 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. And I do think that 204 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: the Matt Canada ends arounds and sweeps and all those 205 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: type of things are very much in play with him too. 206 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: He will put the fear of God into people. Absolutely. 207 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean I always think about this, like Tyreek Hills 208 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: the best example. But you see Tyree Hill, they're not nowadays. 209 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: They don't jog behind the screaming across. He's he's running. 210 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: He's running a forty from sideline to sideline, right and 211 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: right at T. J. Watt and watch, you know, looking 212 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: at the already edge guy going. They handed to this guy, 213 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: I got problems here and so they're therefore his first 214 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: step isn't as good and you know it just that's 215 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: part of the beauty the Canada offense if it's running 216 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: well and it's able to be implemented. And the other 217 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: thing about Pickett that no one talks about either ever 218 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: talks about the small hands and that worries me. But 219 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: his ball handling does handle the ball, you know, with 220 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: the ball fakes and things like that, that you're just 221 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: see a lot more of that. To play action game, 222 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: they won't be the lasting league and play action I'll 223 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: promise you that we didn't talk about the hand thing 224 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: with picking. They're allowed to wear gloves. Those are legal, 225 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: and the gloves are amazing, and the gloves are like 226 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: you can you can hold a football with two fingers 227 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: and grip it pretty well with those gloves. Like all 228 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: the amazing catches these guys make in today's NFL or 229 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: because of the gloves. Oh yeah, one handed catch where 230 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: the glove is basically stick them. Yeah, it's blittnic Coughs 231 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: Lester Hayes. And so if they don't outlaw the gloves, 232 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: I got no problem with. If the quarterback wants to 233 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: wear three gloves, I don't care. I don't care about that. Um. 234 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: A couple of things on it. The hand size worries me. UM. 235 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: Late in the year. He's not the biggest armed guy 236 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: in the league either. I mean driving the football down 237 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: the field. Sometimes his ball will uh, you know, it 238 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have the same energy life and adventure and it's waiting. Hi. 239 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: This is Merril Hodge at S ANDT Bank. They know 240 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: life's for the living. 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On the long throws um, he 251 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: does have quite a few fumbles on his resume at PIT, 252 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: but he also plays a lot of snaps. I think 253 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: it was twenty six fumbles. I looked it up in 254 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: his career, but only three of them were last year. Okay, 255 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: so I think he got better with that. I think 256 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: his pocket presence is better and all those things. And 257 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't just hang it out there either. You know. 258 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see the big bend pump 259 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: fakes and things like that because you work in that. Yeah. 260 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know how to take this, but he 261 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: does have that weird thumb, you know, like any picture 262 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: you see of his hands doesn't look like my under yours. 263 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: It extends all the way its thumbs got that weird 264 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: double joining this to it, and I don't know, it 265 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: wouldn't be enough for me to not take them. I mean, yeah, um, 266 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: you know you're comp in terms of Joe Burrow. The 267 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: arm strength is you look at their arms strength, they're 268 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: pretty much the highly accurate. I mean, it's about the 269 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: ball placement. Neither one of them. Was my problem with 270 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. When people talked about Desmond Ritter and like, yeah, 271 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: he make all but the ball placement is isn't great. 272 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: Huge pickets to me, the best accuracy guy in this class, 273 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: without question. And you know, again looking back at now 274 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: all the all the hints and clues that they gave us. 275 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: That was one of the things that Kevin Colbert said, Um, 276 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, he was asked what's the biggest thing that 277 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks can't change, and this was back pre combine, and 278 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: he said accuracy. He said, if they're inaccurate, you can't 279 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: fix that. I'm my fight with Kevin Colbert on this, 280 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but since I've said it, that's 281 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: been ingrained in all scouts since day one. Just in 282 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of years though, because this is kind 283 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: of a willless thing to me and I've seen ridders 284 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: accuracy get better. Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, A couple of 285 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: these guys have improved their accuracy. They've improved it, but 286 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: to the point where your ball placement is never gonna 287 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: be right. Tom Brady ball placement, I mean, you either 288 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: have that or you don't. Pickett does have that. Yeah. 289 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Um Marvin Lee All in the third round I thought 290 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: was an interesting pick in that he was a two 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: eighty three five pound defensive end slash tackles. They moved 292 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: him all over the line. Yeah. I didn't see that coming. 293 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: And you know, the Steelers were talking about that, that 294 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: versatility as a positive thing. We sat down with the 295 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: young man on Saturday and he kind of alleviated those 296 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: some of those concerns for me when he said that 297 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: he was two pounds when he got to Texas. A 298 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: and M right, and I forget the term I used. 299 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: He has rare genetic you know, like there's no put 300 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the ways put together, there's no fat on his body. 301 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure he can manipulate his his his um musculature 302 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: and his weight more than most guys. I think that's 303 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: a real Everyone knew they were gonna say, well, it 304 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: looked like they were gonna take a defensive line, and 305 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: everyone thinks, boy, they gotta stop the run. That's not 306 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: the leagues about anymore, though. I think this pick tells 307 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: you philosophically a little more than maybe some realize. It 308 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: also tells us that they believe that to It and 309 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: Lulu are going to play this year. Well, I think 310 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: they want to lead the league in sacks every year. Yeah, 311 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, and he's gonna line up next to one 312 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: of those guys on throwing downs on the inside. Let 313 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: me ask you this though, so de Marvin Leel, I 314 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: believe his forty time was like five point one second 315 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: or something like that. If he runs four nine nine, 316 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: is there a different feeling about him. Yeah, that's a 317 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: good point. A lot of those A and M guys 318 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't run great. I don't know if it's because of 319 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: their scout there to sit yeah maybe yeah, the way 320 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: they were trained in their weight room, I don't know. Um, 321 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: But athletically I don't have worries about him. I mean, 322 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: he was a five star recruited like we got. We 323 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: got spoiled this year a little bit because of all 324 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: the fast times. A guy running a two five pounds 325 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: running a five second forty Okay, that used to be 326 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: the norm. Yeah, yeah, that that doesn't bother me at all. 327 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. He makes plays all over the field too, 328 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: and he's not confined in the box. And he bought 329 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: a big, heavy nose that doesn't make it, doesn't run, 330 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: And they moved him around on their line because he 331 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: was their best guy and a Steeler trait of defensive lineman. 332 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: As they run to the ball, like that's stressed here, 333 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that'll be a problem with him either. 334 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Back to the run defense, this has kind of dawned 335 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: on me too, and I don't even know if this 336 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: is their plan, But stopping the run is more than 337 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: just sticking a nose in the middle of the field. 338 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like Leale at his current weight, could line 339 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: up at what they call on outside line acker on 340 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: first and ten, and he's gonna stop. I mean, he's 341 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a big run stopper for that position. You're 342 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: gonna put a tight end on him. I don't think 343 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna all those guys. You're not gonna run outside 344 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: on him against tight ends and things. So there's other 345 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: ways to stop the run too. You know and then 346 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: you shade people more to the middle. I mean, they 347 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: have a plan for him, but they said the word 348 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: versatile eight thousand times a lot, a lot, for sure. 349 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about Austin. Those final three picks, 350 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: Connor Heyward, Mark Robinson, and Chris a lot of con 351 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: the quarterback out of South Dakota State, Hayward and Robinson. 352 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't care what position they play. They have to 353 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: make this roster of special teams guys and go from there. Yeah. Yeah, 354 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: everything else is gravy. People may ask why the quarterback 355 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: in round seven? To me, they looked at it as okay, 356 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: free agent rookie quarterbacks are gonna are gonna look at 357 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: us and say, you signed Mitch dr Bisky drafted a 358 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in the first round. I'm not going there. They're 359 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: last on my list. I'd rather go for the city screen. 360 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: They're gonna get some guy who may not even know 361 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: how to handle a snap, and you're gonna have to 362 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: You're gonna to spend time teaching him how to do 363 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. You know time, You have time to do 364 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: that because you want to, you want your your fourth 365 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: quarterback has to be at least be able to to 366 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: get you in and out of a hut, run your 367 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: scouts stuff on in training camp or you know, get 368 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: your get your your the end of roster wide receivers 369 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: at least a decent enough look so you can find 370 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: figure out what they are. You don't want to make 371 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: a mistake of cutting one of those guys and he 372 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: goes somewhere else and become it becomes something because you 373 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: didn't get a good look at him. Because your fourth 374 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: string quarterback couldn't get you in and out of the huddle, 375 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: he may be nothing. I mean, I'm not gonna harp 376 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: on the quarterback and I'm not gonna spend a time 377 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to take forward to camp. They're taking forward 378 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: to camp, and and that we know, And is Rudolph 379 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: gonna be here for the long term? Probably not. And 380 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: if he turns into a backup or three, that's absolutely 381 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: worth it. He probably will never will probably be like, 382 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: who's that seventh round they picked? I mean, but it's 383 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: not a throwaway pick. It's not um again that that 384 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: has value. Uh, you know, I don't know a lot 385 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: about the young man's background, but I do know that 386 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: he went to three different schools and play quarterback and 387 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: started games at those three schools. That tells me he's 388 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: pretty quick picking things up. Yeah, that's that's probably the allud. 389 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: The more I think about it, you say that we 390 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: don't have to spend a lot of time with this 391 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: fourth string quarterback. He's he's gonna he's gonna have here's 392 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: a paybook, yeah, and don't screw it up. And because 393 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: we don't time to coach up a seventh rounder, no, 394 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta get to we gotta get your 395 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: bisky and pick it ready to play. And I don't 396 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: think he'll get a lot of reps. I mean, don't 397 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: expect him to see tons of preseason action and probably 398 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: get out there, but not much, which is fine. So 399 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: I think there's there is some value in that, especially, 400 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: you know, the seventh round pick at the end of 401 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: the you know it's it's it's the bottom half of 402 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: the seventh round. You're not you're not getting Tom Brady there. 403 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: No seventh rounders are worth very little in this league 404 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: right now. And to me, you know again the people saying, well, 405 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: they could have taken an offensive tackle there. Okay, do 406 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: you think your seventh round offensive tackles making your roster, right, 407 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: any tackle with any kind of ability is gone. Project 408 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: tackles don't last past fifth round, right, Yeah, So you 409 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: know those final if they kick dead in the Cowboy movie, 410 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: your three thirty and your six seven long arms and 411 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: you're an okay athlete and I don't even don't even 412 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: know anything about the game when you're gone. Yeah, they 413 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: those guys when those guys weren't relatively quickly, especially in 414 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: this draft. I mean, that's just the reality of the situations. 415 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, the Steelers have a bunch of 416 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: guys on their roster who have played NFL snaps. Get twelve, 417 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm on the roster who played snaps in the NFL. 418 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean you could there's some interior linement that hit 419 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: back then that are stumpy dudes, you know, thank freely 420 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: type bodies and things like that, right exactly, tons of 421 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: those guys, and they they tough it out and they 422 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: last for a while. You got that guy, those dudes 423 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: right right right, absolutely, you know, that's that's for that's 424 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: for something for another day. So that's a good point. 425 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Recruiting of four with arm we would have proven very difficult. 426 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: It would have been extremely difficult. I'm not going there 427 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: only one guy that got drafted the first and maybe 428 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: maybe you would have got a lot of a lot 429 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: of coon Maybe it wouldn't you know. I'd rather go 430 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville or any of the teams that drafted one 431 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: last year. You know, I'd rather go to Kansas City 432 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: rather go to any team in the league. Right, That's 433 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: all part of that process. Um, you know. So that's 434 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers draft in a in a nutshell. Um, we're 435 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am 436 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers 437 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We'll be back with our final segment right 438 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: after this Life and Adventure and it's waiting. Hi. This 439 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: is Merril Hodge at S ANDT Bank. They know lives 440 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: for the living. That's why S and T Bank offers 441 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: solutions to help you get the most out of it, 442 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: whether you're investing in your home, planning for the future, 443 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: are just making the most of every day. 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