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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. Welcome to stuff one

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Speaker 1: never told your production.

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Speaker 2: I heart radio, and welcome to another edition of Me

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Speaker 2: making Any watch Sex and the City for the first time. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and just me reliving my like early late twenties because

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Speaker 2: I was watching this whole town thinking I want this life.

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Speaker 2: I do not now that I've grown older, I realissa

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Speaker 2: do not want that life. But yes, we are watching

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Speaker 2: Sex and the City. We are in our season three

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Speaker 2: of Sex and the City, slowly going through it. I

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Speaker 2: have told Annie before in the previous episodes, I have

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Speaker 2: said this is probably one of the better seasons, one

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Speaker 2: of the most climactic seasons where things really start like rolling. However,

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Speaker 2: it's also a really problematic season, so I just put

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Speaker 2: that as a caveat. Of course, if you are listening

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Speaker 2: with children, you may want to step out because we

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Speaker 2: are going to discuss a lot of adult themes. Because

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Speaker 2: you know, Sex and the City. I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: self explanatory, just you know whatever. But yes, in this

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Speaker 2: segment I do make any watch for the first time.

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Speaker 2: We have a reaction and discussion about the episode about

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Speaker 2: what you know kind of does stand the test of time,

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Speaker 2: like meaning a yeah, the still is valid and versus

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Speaker 2: this is yeah, this is real problematic. Let's talk about it,

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Speaker 2: and let's talk about why we get real, real and

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Speaker 2: honest and just have a good time. Am I right?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I think you are.

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Speaker 2: And like last season, we want to have you a listener,

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Speaker 2: come and watch with us. You don't have to have

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Speaker 2: seen any of them. That is not a criteria here.

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Speaker 2: All we ask is that you do have access to

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Speaker 2: a computer, to the Internet and headphones. Yes, yes, right, right,

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Speaker 2: So if you're interested and watching with us, just having

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Speaker 2: a discussion about whatever episodes that we are going to

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Speaker 2: into my DMS. Annie say, oh.

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Speaker 1: My, Samantha had to teach me all about that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to have seen it before. It's really fine.

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Speaker 1: It's very low key. If you've seen it a million times,

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Speaker 1: that's also great. If you entered last time and did

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Speaker 1: not get in, please enter again, yes, because if if

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Speaker 1: you've changed your mind, we don't want to just put

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Speaker 2: Come be our friends, because this is an happy hour. Annie,

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Speaker 2: are you sip on anything?

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Speaker 1: I am, I Samantha and nos. I'm very tired. I

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Speaker 1: just got back from a beach trip, emotional beach trip.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sipping on some leftover beer. But I my

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Speaker 1: friend made me this coozy eat which is prayey. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, the dregs of the vacation you're

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Speaker 1: holding on to. That's what I'm going for right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, Well, I'm drinking some sparkling water. It

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Speaker 2: is BlackBerry mango flavor. I loving it. I feel fancy.

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Speaker 2: I don't, but I kind of do. And with that,

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Speaker 2: So, as per usual, Annie, before we begin, can you

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Speaker 2: give us a recap of season three thus far?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, I feel like the big revelation the last

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Speaker 2: things to come. So the episode is titled are We Sluts?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is terrible. I feel like I did so

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Speaker 2: Of course they go to a club, but she didn't

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Speaker 2: She did not say brunch did Okay, let's jump into it.

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Speaker 2: So what everybody did last night? Nothing? Nothing of note.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. Why what happened You.

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Speaker 2: Sleep with someone on the second day?

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Speaker 3: No, it was the third date and it was Alexander Lemley,

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Speaker 2: And what the sex was bad?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I can say it. Oh, get over yourself. Well, sweet,

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Speaker 3: Us you know, came orgasm shot is what I love?

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Speaker 2: The same has to say that extra loud. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to marry a whore. No, what's bad is

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Speaker 2: What about Aid? I love that Carrie? Just that makes

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Speaker 1: Yes, immediately, sorry about you.

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Speaker 2: But guess what I don't have to quit carry but

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to sleep with me. Okay, No he's

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Speaker 2: not gay. Mother issues. I don't know if I would

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Speaker 1: Yes, so if it does.

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Speaker 2: We'll work it out.

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Speaker 1: I'll go left.

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Speaker 3: The thing is I may never know.

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Speaker 2: Well, you better be careful. You wait too long to

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Speaker 2: I will say. If I'm friends with you first, I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is interesting because I'm usually now attracted to

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Speaker 2: There's this fine line. I have to get to know

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmmmm, what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Do you just want to be friends? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I love a man who communicates. I do He does that,

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Speaker 2: We love him man who asks? We love anyone who asks.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest, not too much stuff. Don't ask me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to like accept the answer with women

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Speaker 2: Right, I just want to try to sleep with somebody

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Speaker 2: I care about. Oh, I really think that I could

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is interesting because it goes back to our

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Speaker 2: Cool, which is fine. This is all about consent and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like will you be seen as a slut? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Chain, my gynecologists called me today and my test which

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Speaker 4: she just threw in for good measure, came back positive.

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Speaker 2: Kes it's not terrible. There aren't any symptoms roll we

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Speaker 3: You yelled out something during wesleep.

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Speaker 2: Doing sex. It's interesting that Charlotte, who is Miss Etiquette,

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and again not too slutshame at all, but

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Speaker 1: she does have a lot of partners. To me, I'm like, damn, I.

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Speaker 2: Think according Like, I think someone actually went through and

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Speaker 2: a pretty big amount of numbers, like for all the

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Speaker 2: all these like etiquette things you gotta try, right, agree

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Speaker 2: Elbows, I can't tonight. I have chlamydia. I think that's

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