WEBVTT - Tournament Week: BTS with CH3

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butch podcast. We come to

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<v Speaker 1>you every Wednesday. I'm your host, Claude Harmon. This week

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<v Speaker 1>I thought i'd answer a question I get a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what is a normal week like on tour.

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<v Speaker 1>So this week it's the first live event. I'm down

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<v Speaker 1>at Myacoba. Three guys in the field this week, Dustin Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks Kepka, and Pat Perez. So it's the first event

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<v Speaker 1>of the live season. So it's a little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to work. Certainly, everybody's really excited about getting

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<v Speaker 1>back playing. It's been a long layoff and it's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a long layoff. Certainly a long layoff for me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think for most of the Live guys it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the longest break a lot of them have had in

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<v Speaker 1>their entire professional career. I mean, they've almost been off

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<v Speaker 1>almost three months. Some of the guys played a couple

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago in Saudi Arabia. Of the guys went on

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<v Speaker 1>and played on the Asian Tour. But this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the first real tournament of the year for for Live,

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<v Speaker 1>and my job this week is is just to try

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<v Speaker 1>and check up on all the guys and and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get an idea of what they're doing, how they're playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing a lot of work at home with

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<v Speaker 1>the guys, got to do some work in Saudi. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit different tournament weeks versus home weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So three players this week, and the biggest question I

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<v Speaker 1>get asked a lot is how do you balance three players?

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I guess the easy answer to that is

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of juggling. You know, there's only there's

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<v Speaker 1>three players that you've got to work with, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one of you, there's one of me. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get the most out of my day and

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<v Speaker 1>get the most out of my time as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lucky in that, you know, with the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Live does things, DJ and Brooks are on different teams,

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<v Speaker 1>but DJ and Pat are on the same team, so

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<v Speaker 1>they tend to play a lot of their practice rounds together.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was on the PJA Tour, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think most instructors that have multiple players, there's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of them out there. I mean, Sean Foley's got a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of players. Justin Parsons has a lot of players.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody has. Pete Cowan's always had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of players, So I think it's all about balancing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what you end up trying to do is

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<v Speaker 1>get the players that you work with to play practice

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<v Speaker 1>rounds together. So I'm lucky in that DJ and Pat

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<v Speaker 1>play the majority of their practice rounds together. When Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>and DJ were on the PJA Tour and I was

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<v Speaker 1>working with both of them, they would play a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of practice rounds together. Back in the day, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was working with Ricky Fowler and Jimmy Walker, they were friends,

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<v Speaker 1>they would play a lot of practice rounds together. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lucky in that respect in that I'm able to

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<v Speaker 1>have multiple plays in the same group when you go

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<v Speaker 1>out on the golf course. Makes a little bit difficult

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<v Speaker 1>when they're on the driving range, so you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing around. You're trying to balance everybody's schedule, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I think everybody should try and get an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of individual golfers, individual athletes kind of practice when

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<v Speaker 1>they want to. It's not a team, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like a NFL team or an NBA team, where the

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<v Speaker 1>team practices when the team practices, So everybody practices when

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<v Speaker 1>the team practices. Patrick Mahomes practice schedule is based off

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<v Speaker 1>of when the Kansas City Chiefs are going to practice.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't do his own thing, doesn't do his own practice.

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<v Speaker 1>He practices with the team. But in individual sports, the

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<v Speaker 1>players can kind of set their own schedules and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of set their own practice schedules as well. So DJ

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<v Speaker 1>tends to like to work out in the morning. So

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<v Speaker 1>he got up this morning, worked out first thing this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he was there right around ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the golf course. I always tend to

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<v Speaker 1>try and get to the golf course about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>to two hours before I know the players are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. That's just that's me. That's my OCD.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to feel rushed and everything, and that

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<v Speaker 1>gives me an opportunity to kind of sit down. The

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<v Speaker 1>caddies normally get there before the players, so that gives

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<v Speaker 1>you an opportunity to sit down with the caddies and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of talk to them about what they've been seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're at. But obviously, with it being a new

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<v Speaker 1>year and a new start to the season, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of data points for that. So this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>first guy that I got to on the range. Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>was on the range. I got to spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>with him in Saudi Arabia when he played the Asian

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<v Speaker 1>Tour event. He played decent, you know, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little little kind of I wouldn't say rusty, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>the early part of the year. I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things going into tournaments if players have had long

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<v Speaker 1>layoffs is it's not necessarily the golf swing that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the issue. I think it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the nuances around the greens. It's hitting shots. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the three quarter in between a seven in an

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<v Speaker 1>eight and what kind of shot you're going to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of stuff that you can't really simulate

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<v Speaker 1>in practice. Right, we can try and do that as

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<v Speaker 1>much as we want on the driving range. We can

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<v Speaker 1>try and do as much as we want at home,

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately there's a big, big, massive, massive difference between

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<v Speaker 1>playing at home and then playing in a tournament. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a massive difference between practice rounds and range sessions

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Then there are once you're at a tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, regardless of what day it is, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a test coming. The test is once the tournament starts.

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<v Speaker 1>So in Live's case, they play fifty four holes. On

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour, they play seventy two holes. So the

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<v Speaker 1>test is coming, and the test is going to be Friday, Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sunday, so you're trying to get them ready. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of on countdown. So we all flew in yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's we gotta practice round Tuesday, got a practice

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<v Speaker 1>round Wednesday, pro am Thursday, and then they'll tee it

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<v Speaker 1>up on Friday. So when the players get to tournaments,

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<v Speaker 1>they know that they've got a condensed period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they know they've got a finite period of time

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<v Speaker 1>on how much they can get done for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get all the work that we need to do to do.

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<v Speaker 1>In an ideal world, my job would be not saying

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<v Speaker 1>too much, right, I mean, that would be an ideal situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people look at coaches and

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<v Speaker 1>they see as standing on driving ranges behind the players.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of times that you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying anything. I think the biggest thing that tour

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<v Speaker 1>coaches do is they are a second pair of eyes

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<v Speaker 1>for the player. So very similar to use, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to use an analogy with football, Patrick Mahomes after every

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<v Speaker 1>series of downs, he comes over and sits down and

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of show him what the schemes are. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of go through what he's looking at. They show

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<v Speaker 1>and pictures. They say, hey, listen, this is what the

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<v Speaker 1>defense is doing, this is what the defense has been doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he kind of gets a good gauge on what

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<v Speaker 1>that is right. And in a lot of ways, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily doing that, but what we are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do is we're trying to look at what we've been

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<v Speaker 1>working on in practice and you know, seeing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we every player has their own kind of individual DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>they have their own kind of individual swing. So in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of the three guys that I'm working with,

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Brooks and Pat, DJ and Brooks both fade the

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball. Pat Perez likes to draw the golf ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So how your work, how I'm working with these players

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<v Speaker 1>is different, and each individual player is is a different person,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, everyone has kind of their own personalities

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<v Speaker 1>and their own kind of way of doing things. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you have multiple players, you're dealing as much I

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<v Speaker 1>think with their personalities as you are with their golf swings.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody kind of has their own kind of indio sec sees,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think players want to be taught in a

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<v Speaker 1>specific way that's specific to them, and you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>learn that early. You kind of learn what players like,

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<v Speaker 1>how much information. There are times where players want lots

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<v Speaker 1>of information, there are times where players don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>let a lot of information. There are players that want

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of information, and then there are players that

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<v Speaker 1>don't want a lot of information. In the case of

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks and DJ, there are two players that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want a lot of information. They don't play their best

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<v Speaker 1>when they have a lot of thoughts in their head.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think a lot of what my job with

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks and DJ is to try and manage them as

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<v Speaker 1>much as people as you're managing them as golfers. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they learn, the way that they take

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<v Speaker 1>on information, the information they want is all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>player dependent, and it's it's based a lot on their personalities,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of not so much learning, but how they

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<v Speaker 1>process the information. So you know, just in going through it,

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<v Speaker 1>j DJ doesn't want a lot of information, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of players would be surprised the DJ

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<v Speaker 1>is really kind of a field player. You wouldn't think

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<v Speaker 1>that because DJ's career has been defined by distance length.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of known for the way he drives the

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball. Driving the golf ball is kind of his

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<v Speaker 1>calling card, right, It's part of his DNA. But to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, DJ doesn't want a lot of information.

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<v Speaker 1>He uses a launch monitor, but he's really only using

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<v Speaker 1>it for some very very specific things. When DJ uses

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<v Speaker 1>a launch monitor, he's normally got a carry distance, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a total distance, and then he'll look at spin

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<v Speaker 1>and so based off of those numbers. I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>around a player that has been able to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hit a shot, look at what that shot is doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then basically almost able to call out exactly or

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<v Speaker 1>within a few hundred arpians of what the spin is

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, if it's wedge, doesn't matter, if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nine seven five driver. I think probably more so with

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<v Speaker 1>the wedges and the driver. It's almost like DJs a

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<v Speaker 1>sixth sense. He's like he's clued in. He's very very

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<v Speaker 1>specific in the way that he practices as well. DJ

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<v Speaker 1>likes to his warmups on tournament days are probably the

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<v Speaker 1>longest of anybody on tour. DJ's normally from the time

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<v Speaker 1>he leaves the locker room and is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>his practice or warm up and then go to the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course, he's right around an hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to give you the opposite of that, Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>is right around thirty minutes. So DJ's warm up is

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half, Brooks is thirty. DJ spends

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<v Speaker 1>probably about forty five minutes to an hour of that

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<v Speaker 1>warm up in practice hitting wedges. So all of his

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<v Speaker 1>wedge instances are kind of under one hundred and fifty yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's really really tuned into kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>swing that he needs to make. DJ has with his wedges.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ has three swings. He has a half a full

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<v Speaker 1>or half, three quarter and full, and those are the

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<v Speaker 1>lengths of the backswing. So he's making a half backswing

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<v Speaker 1>and a half follow through, three quarter length back swing,

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<v Speaker 1>three quarter length follow through, and then fall back and

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<v Speaker 1>through and he has three different yards. So with all

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<v Speaker 1>of his wedges, he's going to have a half, a

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<v Speaker 1>three quarter, and a full and those are all going

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<v Speaker 1>to go different distances, and that's really where he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dials. So the only thing he's looking at when

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<v Speaker 1>he's hitting these wedge shots is does it go the

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<v Speaker 1>right distance and does it have the right spin? And

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly it happens four or five times a year.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be hitting a shot with let's say his sand wedge,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll hit two or three of them and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>say to me, is that a good swing? And I'll say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's a good swing, and he's right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going the right distance. It's either going too far,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going too short. And he's looking at the spin

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<v Speaker 1>and he's looking at what the club is doing. And

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<v Speaker 1>he'll hit a couple more and he'll say to Aja's

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<v Speaker 1>brother who caddies for him, and say, Aj, can you

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<v Speaker 1>get the wedge checked, because with that swing, it should

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<v Speaker 1>produce this distance in this number, and it's it's uncanny.

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<v Speaker 1>AJ will take the wedge to the truck and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at the loft or the lie and they'll say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was out one degree this way, one degree that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably more so for the tour players wear and tear

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<v Speaker 1>because of all the travel that they do. They're constantly

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<v Speaker 1>putting their clubs on airplanes, clubs can get bent. So

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<v Speaker 1>DJ's practice is very much wedge specific. So today, same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>he's looking at wedges, he went over. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a back issue a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has not been hitting a lot of golf balls.

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<v Speaker 1>But today it was actually really surprising. I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>it that how well he was hitting. It was such

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<v Speaker 1>a long layoff. I guess I shouldn't probably be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by that, because a long layoff for tour players, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they need that, they need that break. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was really quite surprised and really quite excited about how

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<v Speaker 1>well DJ was moving. But when I'm working with DJ,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at some specific things in his golf swing.

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<v Speaker 1>So because both Brooks and DJ want to fade the

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball and they have a lot of speed, we're

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<v Speaker 1>always looking at the takeaway and the down swing, and

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<v Speaker 1>both Brooks and DJ both struggle when the takeaway gets

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too neutral. Going back sometimes with the wedges,

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<v Speaker 1>DJ can get it a little bit inside and then

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<v Speaker 1>as the club is coming down, the club gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit inside going that way. And for both the

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<v Speaker 1>guys at Brooks and DJ, because they both like to

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<v Speaker 1>fade the golf ball. They want to get the path left.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to get that golf ball starting left of

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<v Speaker 1>the target and then fading back to the target. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're checking the backswing, we're checking the down swing, We're

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<v Speaker 1>checking a lot With DJ and Brooks, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what happens to them when they get

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<v Speaker 1>off is it's basics right, it's posture, it's distance from

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<v Speaker 1>the golf ball too far, too close, golf ball too

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<v Speaker 1>far back, golf ball too far forward, just alignment. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the biggest thing for me, in my opinion, that

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<v Speaker 1>tour coaches do is we are a second pair of

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<v Speaker 1>eyes because the player can't see themselves right. A player

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<v Speaker 1>can only look at what the golf balls doing, but

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<v Speaker 1>they can't visually see themselves in other sports. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>used football as an example. When players come off of

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<v Speaker 1>football fields, the offense goes with the offense, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>goes with the defense, and then the offensive or defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>the running back coach, whatever individual coach will come over

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<v Speaker 1>and say, Okay, this is what you're doing, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on. They'll show them some plays. So

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have necessarily the availability to do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I use a tremendous amount of video because both Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>and DJ, I would classify them as very much visual learners.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to look at golf swings. DJ sometimes if

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<v Speaker 1>he's struggling or trying to work, if we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>work on a backswing or work on a down swing,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll film one. I'll film it from the down the

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<v Speaker 1>line angle, and then i'll film it from face on

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll show it to him and he'll say, and

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<v Speaker 1>I always film one at slow motion and then one

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<v Speaker 1>at full speed. And so what DJ tends to do

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<v Speaker 1>is he'll look at the full speed one and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>just watch it over and over again. I'll watch it

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<v Speaker 1>like five times in a row. If it's if it's

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<v Speaker 1>from down the line, he's looking whatever he's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>his back swing is down swing, he'll say, hey, run

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<v Speaker 1>that at full speed, and he'll look at my phone

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll run it at full speed and he's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me, let me look at that in slow motion.

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<v Speaker 1>And then normally he'll kind of take my phone and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll kind of you jog the frames on where he

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<v Speaker 1>wants it. But he is a very very visual learner.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times, if we're working on things, I

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<v Speaker 1>will I've got an app on my phone to where

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<v Speaker 1>I can, you know, take still pictures and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>show positions side by side, And I do that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times. If we're working on trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the golf club a little bit more in front, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at a swing where the golf club was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit neutral, a little bit too much inside, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll kind of put those two backswings side by side,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll kind of put the two down swing

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<v Speaker 1>side by side. And and DJ has this really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of uncanny way to kind of look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>go because where where there are other players want to

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<v Speaker 1>look at UM, they want to look at launch monitor numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>There are coaches that want to see launch monitor numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>UM Brooks and DJ are just not those type of players.

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<v Speaker 1>UM doesn't make it right, it doesn't make it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>There are guys that want a lot of information. UM

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I guess the best example I could use

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<v Speaker 1>would be, you know, Justin Rose and Sean Foley, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know falls and and Rosie, they they're

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<v Speaker 1>always looking at track men numbers. UM, Sean always looking

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<v Speaker 1>at numbers, because I think the way that Sean thinks

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<v Speaker 1>about the golf swing is, you know, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. UM, that's the way his brain works. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Some players aren't like that. My brain doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just doesn't. I'm not a math guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a science guy. UM. If I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers on a launch monitor, I'm looking at them

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<v Speaker 1>for one hundred percent something specific. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see every shot on a launch monitor because the launch

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<v Speaker 1>monitor is not really telling me what's happening. What's telling

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<v Speaker 1>me what's happening with the player is what my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>can see. And I think a lot of UM instructors

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<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, launch monitors, that's that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of the end all be all. I always say,

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<v Speaker 1>the computer and the monitor that you need is in

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes. So I'm looking at what the ball flights doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm and and specifically with Brooks and DJ I think

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<v Speaker 1>those two. We're looking a lot at start lines, how

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<v Speaker 1>they're starting the golf ball, where they're starting the golf ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other thing going back to that second

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<v Speaker 1>pair of eyes. Um, I think one of my main

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<v Speaker 1>jobs is to kind of do kind of a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty kind of three sixty view of what the

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<v Speaker 1>player is doing. You know, walk around, look at the

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<v Speaker 1>ball position, and a lot of times I'll just say

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<v Speaker 1>to Brooks or DJ, hey just move the golf ball

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<v Speaker 1>half a ball more forward, move the golf ball half

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<v Speaker 1>a ball back. Hey, just your shoulders are a little shut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always looking at what I can see that the

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<v Speaker 1>player is doing before they hit the golf ball, because

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<v Speaker 1>to me, a lot of what happens with tour players

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<v Speaker 1>and competitive golfers, a lot of I wouldn't say the mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of where they get into trouble is

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<v Speaker 1>the way they're addressing the golf ball. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the speed of specifically with guys like Brooks and DJ,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got so much speed that if the setup gets bad,

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<v Speaker 1>the alignment gets bad, the ball position gets bad, they

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<v Speaker 1>can start hitting the golf ball a long way offline

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<v Speaker 1>because there's just a slight you know, fault in how

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<v Speaker 1>they're setting up. So I'm always, especially early in the

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<v Speaker 1>year now that we're getting back to playing, now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're ramping up back into tournaments, I'm hyper focused on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the basics, all the stuff that isn't sexy

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<v Speaker 1>in modern teaching right now, ball position, grip stance, posture alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>That was kind of the mantra when my dad grew

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<v Speaker 1>up and when my dad was playing. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad's you know, going to be eighty at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this summer. You know, Grip stance, posture alignment. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he grew up on. He didn't grow up on

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<v Speaker 1>launch monitors, he didn't grow up on three D. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't grow up on all of the technology and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we know, and and so I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say, Okay, what can I look at and

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<v Speaker 1>what can I say? And I just will say to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in an ideal world, my job at a

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<v Speaker 1>tour event would be not to say too much. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a one hundred percent win for both

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<v Speaker 1>me and the player, because that would mean they're in

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good position, right They're in a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>place to where we're not going to have to make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of changes, and in an ideal world, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't be making we won't be making a lot of changes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to be making a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>backswing changes. We're just trying to make some small little

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<v Speaker 1>tweaks knowing that they're on countdown. Right, it's Tuesday, so

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<v Speaker 1>that means whatever we were working on today, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and Thursday to try and embed implement that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they've got to go play the game then the

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<v Speaker 1>test starts, right. So you know, like I said, DJ

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been playing a lot of competitive golf. He really has.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be the first competitive tournament DJ's

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<v Speaker 1>played since Miami of last year, I think in October.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we don't have a lot of data

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<v Speaker 1>points on what he's been doing. Yes, we've watched him,

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<v Speaker 1>played hit balls in practice. Yes, I mean we played

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<v Speaker 1>golf all weekend. But what they're doing at home has

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<v Speaker 1>very little bearing on what they're going to do once

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament starts. Because you can be hitting a grade

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<v Speaker 1>at home and hit a terrible at a tournament. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be playing grade at a tournament or at a

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<v Speaker 1>in your practice and play good right. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it is just basics, and the basics for DJ's

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<v Speaker 1>golf swing are pretty much the basics for Brooks's golf swing.

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<v Speaker 1>They like to fade it, keep the golf club in

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<v Speaker 1>front of them going back, get it back out in

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<v Speaker 1>front of them coming down. DJ's got that unique head position.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that we were working on over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend because DJ had a little tweak in his

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<v Speaker 1>back a couple of weeks ago, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>just was a little bit kind of reticent to just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get through it. So he was hanging back

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<v Speaker 1>a little so and as he was hanging back, his

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<v Speaker 1>head actually wasn't kind of rotating out towards the target

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<v Speaker 1>the way it normally does. But that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I was saying, Listen, just make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>get through it, don't hang too much back on your

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<v Speaker 1>right side, and just get your weight forward. Brooks a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of the same thing, a little slight alteration

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<v Speaker 1>to his ball position. The tendency with Brooks is to

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<v Speaker 1>get the golf ball too far back in his stance,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, as a fader of the golf ball, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the death move from him because then on the downswing

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<v Speaker 1>the path gets too neutral and he can't kind of

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<v Speaker 1>round the corner, get the get the club working and

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<v Speaker 1>exiting left. So this morning, a lot of what we

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>were doing with Brooks is just I was checking the

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<v Speaker 1>ball position and just saying, hey, make sure that ball

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>position to get too far back. Every now and again

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<v Speaker 1>it would creep and he would either hit one to

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<v Speaker 1>the left or he'd hit one to the right. But

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>if that ball position stays nice and forward, He's normally

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>in a good place because then he can feel like

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the chest opens up, he feels like he can turn

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>through it, he feels like he can release the golf club,

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and then he can just basically hit the shots that

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>he wants. Pat Perez is the one hundred and eighty

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 1>degree opposite of that. Pat likes and wants to be

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 1>able to draw the golf ball. He wants to be

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>able to start the golf ball to the right, he

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>wants to be able to curve it back from right

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to left. So the things I'm working on with Brooks

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and DJ are the opposites of what I'm working on

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>with Pat Perez. Pat's tendency, the takeaway gets a little

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>bit quick, gets a little bit fast, he can kind

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of have that little bit of outmove going back. The

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>club then on the downswing gets really really quick in transition,

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>and he just can't shift that path right enough to

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>start the golf ball in the direction that he wants to. So,

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 1>in the same way that with Brooks and DJ Faders

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>were trying to have them get the golf club and

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>keep the golf club very much in front of them,

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in Pat's case, we're trying to have the golf club

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>work very much what he feels like is on the inside.

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Have that downswing work on the inside. You know, I

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say that's something that I teach on a regular basis.

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>A lot of players that I work with, I think

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>do that too much. The golf club gets two inside

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>going back, then they get kind of two inside coming down,

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the body gets a little bit slow, and then their

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>hands get a little bit active. And it was something

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that we kind of keyed in on at the end

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of last season at the Miami event. I know that

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that Pat he sees a draw right, he sees the

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>golf ball go right to left. We've had some success

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>with Pat in having him hit fades, but I know

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.719
<v Speaker 1>that kind of the holy grail for him as a player.

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>His shot that he sees and wants to hit is draw.

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So the only way that he can feel that is

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>for that backswing to feel like it's almost too much inside.

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's a fine line right now with me as

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>his coach and as an instructor, because there are times

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>where the golf club and my kind of the way

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I think and in my opinion, and I'm like, that's

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a little that's a little deep, and that's a little inside.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But the way that Pat's bodywork, Pat doesn't have a

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of rotation. He had a hip injury from a

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>car accident years ago on his left hip. So Pat

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>has a lot of lateral move to his golf swing,

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>almost a lot of lateral slide to his golf swing.

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>So again it's the complete one hundred and eighty degree

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>opposite of guys like Brooks and DJ. They have speed,

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>they can rotate. Pat doesn't have that. That's not part

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of his DNA. So my job as the coach is

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>first and foremost I have to give the player confidence,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>right I feel like that is one of my main

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>jobs is to instill confid in the player. And Pat's

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>confidence comes from being able to see the draw, being

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>able to see the golf ball curve from right to left.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>So this morning we were working on really trying to

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>have that golf club work what he feels like is inside,

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>and then really trying to get him to feel like

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>he starts that golf ball out to the right and

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>when he does that, the first thing it does is

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>he starts to see the shape that he wants to see,

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>which is a draw. And my job as a coach

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>is to listen to the player and I ask players, listen,

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>what shapes do you want to hit? What shots do

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to hit? And then I feel like it's

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>my job to say, Okay, the player wants to do

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>this one can they do that? Do they have the

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>physical ability to put the club in these positions? In

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Pat's case, when he gets the backswinging a little bit

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>on the inside, he's able to turn the golf ball

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>over and draw it. So that was the stuff we

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>did on the range, not too long, and then the

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>guys went to the golf course, so I did a

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of bouncing around. Um DJ and Pat play their

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>practice rounds together. Brooks plays his practice rounds on Live

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>with his team. So DJ and Brooks and they're different, right,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>They've got different teams. So Brooks plays with his team.

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Pat and DJ tend to play a lot of their

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>practice rounds together. Um, Peter eu line has joined M

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Dustin's team this week or this year on the aces. So, um, Pete,

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>your line was out with us today. So when we're

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>out of the golf course. UM yeah, I mean again,

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just checking basics, right, because I don't want to

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>be working too much swing mechanics while they're on the

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>golf course. I'm talking with the caddies. I'm saying, hey, listen,

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what what are you seeing? What do you

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like here? What do you think about the strategy here?

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Where do you think the miss should be here? So

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it's something that it's hard to explain, but UM, I

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>love it. I love that kind of collaboration between myself

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and the player, between me and the caddy. UM. I

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>really value the practice rounds because it's an opportunity for

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>all of us to get there. We're talking about strategy,

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about how they're going to play, what clubs

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>are going to hit off the tier. They're hitting three

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>woods for the hitting drivers. Um, I think it's fascinating

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to listen. I mean, I've been doing this, you know,

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the majority of my adult life, but it's

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>always fascinating to listen to that interaction between the player

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and the caddy. I love listening to to AJ and DJ.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I love listening to H and Pat. I think Ricky

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Elliott to me, is one of the best caddies in

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the world. The interaction between you know, him and Brooks

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and the way that they kind of go about it.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Um And I think those the caddies as well, know

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>their player, they know what type of information, how much

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>information they want. So I just I enjoy the practice

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>round so much because once the tournament starts as a

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>coach as as as a golf coach, you know, being

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a professional golfer and coaching professional golfers. Once Thursday or

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Friday starts, once they get inside the ropes, they basically

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>go to the moon. I can't say anything. They're on

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>another planet. They're inside the ropes, and there's nothing that

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I can do as the instructors, as the coach to

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>influence what they're doing. So if I see Brooks's ball

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>positions start to creep too far back, if I see

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>DJ's alignment get a little bit off, if I see

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Pats start to take the golf club a little bit

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.959
<v Speaker 1>too much on the outside once they're in a tournament,

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>once from the time they tee off until the time

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they finish, I can't do anything about it. And I'll

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, it is unbelievably frustrating when I

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>watch team sports, when I watch college football and watch

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the adjustments guys like Nick Saban are able to make

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Kirby smart at Georgia, The changes they're able to make

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>at halftime, the personnel that they're able to bring in

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the play calls, that they're able to learn from what

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>happened in the first half. I don't get to do that.

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Once the player goes inside the ropes and they're playing

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>a competitive round on tour, I'm not allowed to talk

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to them. I can't say anything to them. I can't

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>do any hand gestures. I try and never really get

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>anywhere close to where they are. I try and get

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>ahead so I can see where the ball's finishing. But

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just a little thing that I've always done. I

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>just don't want them to see me. I want them

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be in their world focusing on the

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>things that they need to focus on, but it is frustrating.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I think the practice rounds for me

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>are are so important because I'm able to get inside

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the ropes. I'm able to look at the golf course.

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm able to look at the strategy, so that after

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the tournament rounds finish, were then able to kind of

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>look at what they're doing where they were hitting shots.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Because I've been out on the golf course, I kind

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:01.000
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<v Speaker 1>most players now are adopting the nine whole practice rounds. Um,

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you'll see some players maybe play eighteen holes. But um,

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of players, you know, both on

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Live and the PGA Tour, Um, they're playing nine they

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>might play nine Tuesday. If they're in the pro am,

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>they know they're probably going to play eighteen holes. So

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times players get to tournaments, um, they don't.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>They get in Monday night, they play nine holes on Tuesday,

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>they play eighteen holes on Wednesday, and then they kind

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of get out. So um, on Live, we got in Monday,

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>we're Tuesday Wednesday, so we'll do nine holes again tomorrow,

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>ProAm on Thursday, and then the tournament starts. But as

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, in an ideal world, UM, I'm not

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>saying a lot um I'm not having them work on

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of technical stuff. Now, there are weeks where

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the players aren't playing good and you have to get

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in there and and and work and and try and

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>fix things. Um. But I always remembers years ago, probably

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>six seven, eight years ago. I think we're in Washington,

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>DC at congressional for the for the Old at and

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.719
<v Speaker 1>T and I was talking to Sean about, you know,

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>our job and stuff like that, and it was interesting

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that Full said, you know, I kind of feel like

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>we're we're we're doctors, and you know, the PGA Tour

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>is kind of the battlefield, right. Yes, I know it's

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>not a real battle field, and I'm not trying to

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>make the analogy that golfers are any more important than

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>they are, but it's the field of play. And he's like, listen,

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>there's once the tournaments kind of start, and once we

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>get here, it's a little bit like we're just doing

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>triage because we can't really do a lot of open

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>heart surgery while they're you know, in battle right, and

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and and it's it's it's important to realize that once

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>we get to tournament weeks, because the weeks are what

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>they are. You know, when the tournament's going to start,

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the availability to take the car and

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>pull it apart and rebuild the engine because the player

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>has to play. And that's something that's taken me a

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>lot long time to learn, and I've learned by you know,

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>making a tremendous amount of mistakes, right, you know, you'd

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>make mistakes where I think early in my career I was.

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I was way more hands on, way more information, And

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>now in an ideal world, I try and do as

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>much of the hard work, the technical work, the drill

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>work when we're home and when we're in off week,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>so that when we get to tournaments, we're not really

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of technical mechanical work because I don't

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>want the players in that headspace. I want them to

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>be in the play headspace, you know. So I love

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the fact that I work with players that hit the

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>golf ball different directions. I don't believe that there's one

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 1>way to swing the golf club. I don't believe that

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a system, right, I don't have every

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>player I work with doing the same thing. I have

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>things in the golf swing that I believe in. I

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.439
<v Speaker 1>have a philosophy in my own head of things that

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I think make players hit shots better. But I don't

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>have a specific formula system. So in that respect, Um,

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I like it that all the players are different to me. Um,

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, DJ is different from Brooks, Brooks is different

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>from Pat m They're in different ages, they're different stages

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of their career. They've all got different skill sets. You know,

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>DJ's a freak athlete and you know, unbelievably flexible, tremendous

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>amount of flexibility. Brooks has had some pretty significant catastrophic injuries,

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we're constantly working around them. Pat is

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>in his mid to late forties. His body isn't what

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>it once was, but Pat still has a lot of speed.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm working with all of these players as individuals

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and trying to take what they do and you learn

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>your delivery, kind of like being a stand up comedian.

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit like what the you know, what

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of crowd is it tonight? You're playing to your audience.

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm working with Pat differently than I'm working

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>with Brooks, and I'm working with Brooks differently than I'm

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>working with DJ. And I think for me, that's one

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I really really like about what

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I do. So, yeah, we got to see the golf course.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about strategy, we're talking about what you want,

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>what shots you want to hit. You know, A lot

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>of it is is a lot of me being you know,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>super super positive. M That's one of the things that

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that I try and do. You know, I learned from

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>my dad that I try and be as much of

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>a cheerleader as I can. Even if the player hits

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>a bad shot, I'll say, you know, listen, that wasn't

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that bad. We just need to get the golf club

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more here, because the last thing you

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be doing is putting a lot of doubt

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>in in the players that you work with in their head.

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>So we got good practice rounds in today, went back

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to the range afterwards, didn't do a ton of stuff.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Brooks always likes to go to the range and really

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>just kind of wind down. He does that in practice rounds,

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and he does that in tournament rounds. He likes to

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>go from the golf course, maybe get some lunch, but

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>go back to the range. DJ doesn't really do a

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of practicing after tournament rounds right or after practice rounds.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Every now and again, we'll go back to the range.

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>But he's just like, yeah, I mean I felt go

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>down the course today, I know what I need to do.

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>We'll get back at it tomorrow. And so that's very different.

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, everybody kind of has their own way

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.879
<v Speaker 1>of practicing, and so a lot of my job people

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.919
<v Speaker 1>ask me, you know, describe what your job is. It's

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>as much managing people as it is, you know, teaching golf.

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And let's be honest, right, I'm not actively teaching Dustin Johnson,

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Brooks Kepka and Pat Perez anything. Right, these goes were

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>great players a long time before they met me. Right,

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not teaching them anything. I think a lot of

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing out here onto his coach. Right, we

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>know what they do when they play their best. They're

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the athlete. I'm the coach. I'm I'm not hitting any shots, soum.

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>They're great players, and a lot of what I'm trying

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to do is listen. We know you perform your best

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>when you do these things. We kind of have a recipe,

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a blueprint, and we've got a lot of data points. Right.

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the great thing about you know, working with competitive

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>golfers is you know, I've been working with DJ since

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>about I guess around two twelve twenty thirteen. I worked

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>with Brooks for eight years, took a little you know,

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>took to your break and we got back together kind of,

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, summer of last year. I know what makes

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>DJ his best, right. I know what DJ does when

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>he's the number one player in the world, when he's

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>winning majors, when he's winning tournaments. I know what Brooks

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>does when he plays his best. And in terms with Pat,

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of my job is to try

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>and may Pat as confident as a player as he can,

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>because Pat can get negative, he can beat himself up.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>He can I think at times he can almost self

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>sabotage himself by the mental attitude that he has. So

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm trying to do much more of a

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>coaching role with patum probably than any of the players

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I work with, because you know, it's my job to

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>keep him up. It's my job to keep him positive.

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>It's my job to think get him thinking that he's

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>playing good and that good golf is around the corner.

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And then lastly, I think a huge part of my

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>job is after after everybody finished today, I went in

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>with Brooks Keepka's physio Mark Wall, who, in my opinion,

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he is the most valuable person on Brooks's team. When

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Brooks first turn pro and he got his PGA Tour cardum,

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I said to him, I said, you need to hire

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Mark Wall. Mark Wall was you know, he worked with

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Walker, worked with JB. Holmes, he worked with Steve Stricker.

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>He's almost like a savant when it comes to biomechanics,

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>what the body is doing, and probably someone who I

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>trust as much as anybody. So during the offseason, Brooks

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>came in and Mark came down and they basically did

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a total diagnostic of Brooks's body, his food intake, what

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 1>he's allergic to, what foods are good from him, what

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>foods aren't good for him. They did a complete three

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>D screen of what his golf swing was doing. And

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>so I sat for almost two hours with Mark Wall

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>today and Mark kind of ran me through everything that's

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:48.879
<v Speaker 1>going on with Brooks physically, where the limitations are, what

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the issues are. He's constantly Marcus and listen, what are

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you What are you seeing in his golf swing? What

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 1>are you trying to do in his golf swing? And

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>based off of that, I'm looking at what Mark, as

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy that's in charge of Brooks's body. Listen, what

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>is his body able to do? What is his body

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>able not to do? And then based off of that,

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to look at what I'm doing and hopefully

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 1>we're on the same page. But I think it was

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>really important in the offseason, given some of the injuries

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>that Brooks has had in the last couple of years,

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get that big diagnostic look. It was

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a pretty lengthy report. I think Mark does a fantastic

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>job and making things really really easy for me to understand.

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that that the fans realize what

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>a collaborative effort all of this is. And yeah, there's

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 1>there's the jackass instructor, the jackass reporters and journalists that say,

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm tired of these players talking about their team.

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>It's an individual sport. You know, enough with the team,

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>go play and stuff. But the modern athlete has a

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>team of people around them, and you know, I am

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>a huge part of that team, but there are so

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.880
<v Speaker 1>many other people that are part of that team. And

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>what we're trying to do is get everybody on the

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 1>same page. Brooks has a big team, DJ has a

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>big team. Pat doesn't necessarily have a huge team. So

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I think in my role with Pat, he almost kind

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>of looks at me like a head coach that I'm

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the head coach of his team, and he looks to

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>me for a lot of things like that. Brooks and

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>DJ maybe not so much. You know, Brooks has a

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>putting instructor, he has a short game instructor, he has

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a trainer, He has Mark Wall as his physio. So

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've got five six guys on Brooks's team.

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>DJ's got Joey Ds his trainer, He's got a physio,

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm in charge of the golf part of it.

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 1>And then he's got Ajs his cato, And that's a

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, and it's a collaborative effort, and a

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of my job is to sit and meet with

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>all of these people on the team and try and

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>get kind of as much of a three hundred, you know,

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of a thirty eight thousand foot overview of what

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody's doing, and then what I can do from a

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.240
<v Speaker 1>golf standpoint, and going back to you know, Brooks's physio,

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Mark Wall. There are weeks where Mark will say, hey, listen,

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Brooks's body isn't moving great this week, So we got

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to limit how many balls we hit. Let's try and

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>get quantity out of the window and let's get or

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>let's get quality and not get a ton of reps.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>The reps that we're going to get. Let's get a

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.439
<v Speaker 1>lot out of these reps, because his body just isn't

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>in a place right now to stand there and hit

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a ton of golf balls. So that's kind of what

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a normal day is like for me. Obviously, the bigger

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the tournament, things change. I mean Majors, it's different. Players

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>are very very different at majors than they are at

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>regular tour events. I mean, you can just tell they

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>understand what the stakes are, they understand the task at head,

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>they understand the holy grail is winning majors, right, I mean,

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what every tour player wants to win. So when

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they're at major's they're very different. They're a little bit

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>on edge. I wouldn't say that they're panicking, but they're

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>more on edge at at at majors than they aren't

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>regular tour events. But yeah, that's kind of what I do.

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll do the same thing tomorrow and kind of go

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 1>through that that kind of same kind of routine. We'll

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>work a little bit on the range, we'll get out

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 1>on the golf course, maybe hit some balls after. But

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of that's a lot of me just

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of looking at what they're doing and being that

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>second pair of eyes, being that coach and say, listen,

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>we know what you do when you play your best.

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>If we can get the golf club and these positions,

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>if your body can move it in this way, then

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you can go to the golf course and just play golf.

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And ultimately, that's my job is to send tour players

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>as as a tour coach, it's my job to get

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>them ready to play tournaments. And I don't really think

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing anything different than you know, Cameron McCormick's doing.

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>We might with Jordan Spieth. Kim works with Jordan Spieth,

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>has worked with Daniel Bergery, just started work with Tom Kim.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, I spend a lot of time with the

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>other coaches. We talk about what the players are doing.

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not someone that is afraid to talk to other coaches.

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times I'll say to the coaches that

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>whose opinions I trust and believe in, I'll say, hey,

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about this, What do you think

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>about this move? What do you think about this problem?

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And try and take some information from the other players.

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm so lucky in being able to work on tour,

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to have the availability to have access to what I

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>believe are some of the best coaches in the world,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>to be able to pick their brains, to talk to

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 1>them about what they're working on with players, to say, hey,

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>what are you guys going to do on seven? What

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>are you guys going to do on nine? What do

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you are you guys hitting driver on this while you

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>guys hitting three wood? Where do you see the miss

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 1>on this whole? So it's a constant I guess it's

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a constant quest for information. For me, it's a constant

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>quest for knowledge to try and figure out all of

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that that makes golfers this giant puzzle. We're

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to put these puzzle pieces in. Listen, I'm not

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 1>digging ditches. I have an unbelievable job. I'm incredibly lucky.

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>It's long hours, it's a lot of standing outside, and

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got a horrendous golf tan because I'm outside all

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the time. But you know, I consider myself so unbelievably

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>lucky that, you know, some of the best players in

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the world would entrust me to help them with their

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 1>golf and I never never take that lightly. It means

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>something to me, and I really feel like I'm incredibly

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>lucky to get to do what I do and I'm

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>excited for the year when you see these guys play well,

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>trust me, there's a lot of stuff that goes into that.

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people working behind the scenes,

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm I'm very, very thankful and very

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>lucky to be a part of that. So that's kind

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>of a day in the life of of what I

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>do on the on tour, and you know, I love it.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a huge part of my life and you know,

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to continue to do it. So a lot

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 1>of stuff happening in golf. Last week, finally John Ram

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>gets to number one in the world. It makes absolutely

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>no sense to me if you look at the record

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that John Ram has had in the last three to

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>four months, that it's taken this many wins for him

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to get to number one in the world. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think John's talked about it. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are talking about it. I think there's gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>a different way to start ranking players that are playing

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<v Speaker 1>competitive golf because John rom has been the number one

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<v Speaker 1>ranked player in the world for a long time. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we saw Tiger Woods come back last week.

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<v Speaker 1>UM yeah, I mean it was good to see Tiger back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Tiger, he's the goat. Um, he's the needle,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was good to see him back. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we saw some good golf from Tiger. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if we'll be able to see Tiger a

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<v Speaker 1>lot because I don't know, you know, how much his

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<v Speaker 1>body can hold up. I know some of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that work with Tiger behind the scenes on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his his goal and his body and it takes a village.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was nice to hear Tiger say, you know

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<v Speaker 1>last week, I want to thank my team for getting

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<v Speaker 1>me ready. UM. I don't think anybody has any concept

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<v Speaker 1>of all of the things that it takes for Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>Woods play golf in twenty twenty three. M it's not

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<v Speaker 1>band aids that he's able to put on the physical

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<v Speaker 1>issues that he's got. It takes an enormous amount of

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<v Speaker 1>work from um, some incredibly talented and smart people that

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<v Speaker 1>are helping him. And yeah, it was fun to see him. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was good to see Max Homer. He's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch Max kind of become one, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best players in the world. He's such

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<v Speaker 1>a likable character, loves golf swinging. I think the work

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<v Speaker 1>in his instructor, Mark Blackburn have done has really started

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<v Speaker 1>to pay off and has really turned him into one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best players in the world. But an iconic

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<v Speaker 1>golf course, Riviera always great to see that golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's one of the gems of of of

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<v Speaker 1>golf courses in the United States. It's it's great design,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in a great part of the world. And um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the golf season in full flow. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>for Live to get back up and running. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a Live fan, I'm okay with that. Um it's okay.

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it's not for you, if you don't

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like the product for whatever reason, that's cool. Um I'm

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>not a country music fan. I don't listen to country music.

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean the country music is bad. It's just not

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>my jam. It's not my thing. And if Live isn't

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 1>your thing, that's okay too, but I'm excited. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to see some good golf. And twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three is, you know, for me, is finally getting

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<v Speaker 1>up and running. Can't thank everybody enough for listening. If

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you're new, if if you're new to the podcasts, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of great episodes, We've got a bunch

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>of great guests, and if you're a regular listener, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Um. We're going to keep trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get as much information as possible. I'm doing some of

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>these solo pots because the feedback has been pretty good. People.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my job is a teach golf for a living,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think everybody listening wants to improve their golf.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I can help and tell my story and

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>give my experiences and the information that that I use,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that's helping players. And that's been the feedback. We

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<v Speaker 1>will I promise we'll get back to the guests soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody had to suffer with another H three podcast

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Looking forward to seeing you next week. Son

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<v Speaker 1>of a Bush comes to you every Wednesday. Thanks for listening.