Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: when you're ready, let's.
Speaker 2: Get it all.
Speaker 1: How's it going to everybody? Bryan Alvarez here on Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Live. We are here every day Monday through Friday,
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Speaker 1: We got a lot of news to get into today.
Speaker 1: It's Monday, you know. That means a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: happened over the weekend. We had shows, we had title changes,
Speaker 1: we had literally a half dozen injuries that we have
Speaker 1: to get into here today, and we're gonna go over
Speaker 1: all that here on the show, as well as the
Speaker 1: full lineup for Raw tonight, the full lineup for NXT tomorrow,
Speaker 1: the full lineup for AW on Wednesday. Wednesday, of course,
Speaker 1: is the go home Dynamite for the pay per view
Speaker 1: is coming weekend, which I will be attending. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be there in Vegas. Dave's gonna be there, got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people going and if you would like
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Speaker 1: and A. You can join us for a Brazilian steakhouse dinner.
Speaker 1: Don't miss that one, and we may we may have
Speaker 1: a couple of packages available that involve a ticket to
Speaker 1: double or nothing, but those may be sold out. So
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Speaker 1: I would go there asap and see what is left.
Speaker 1: Could do a meet and greet with Dave. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun, so don't miss that this weekend.
Speaker 1: We've also got updates on the video game. We finally
Speaker 1: finally have a release date for aw Fight Forever, and
Speaker 1: believe it or not, that is the top story today.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why has noted. We've got a backup
Speaker 1: location for Collision and we're gonna know one way or
Speaker 1: the other on Wednesday, so we'll tell you about that
Speaker 1: and the New Japan Show yesterday and SmackDown Rampage, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Texas four two five seven
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Speaker 1: in a moment Observer Live. Back in the show, Briin
Speaker 1: Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simber Viv also
Speaker 1: of Wrestling Observer dot com. Let's get going on the
Speaker 1: news and the big story today. Fight Forever finally as
Speaker 1: an official release date, announce today. Fight Forever will be
Speaker 1: released Thursday, June twenty ninth, PS five, PS four, Xbox
Speaker 1: Series X and S, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch and PC
Speaker 1: and S was made via video from Kenney Omega quite
Speaker 1: some time ago. He said, we announced our first foray
Speaker 1: into the video game world, aw Fight Forever. We wanted
Speaker 1: to develop an arcade experience. It was fun, easy to
Speaker 1: pick up and play, but difficult to master. We believe Awn,
Speaker 1: our partners with Yukes, have created just that experience. Rated
Speaker 1: T fourteen due to blood, violence, language, mild suggestive themes,
Speaker 1: and use of alcohol and tobacco. Okay. Following match types
Speaker 1: are included in the game Singles matches, tag team, three way,
Speaker 1: four way, casino battle, royal falls, count anywhere, unsanctioned lights
Speaker 1: out and exploding barbed wire death matches.
Speaker 2: Why were you so surprised by that there's a career mode,
Speaker 2: Brian Alvarez.
Speaker 1: So he can make the Sandman?
Speaker 2: How can you tell the career of the Hangman outam
Speaker 2: page without him sitting at the bar, sitting there with
Speaker 2: a drink in his hand, maybe using that drink when
Speaker 2: he wrestles an unsanctioned lights out match, which it says
Speaker 2: here in the press release allows use of weapons and
Speaker 2: of course lots of blood.
Speaker 1: Just tell me that they have that create a wrestler
Speaker 1: function where I can make the Sandman and do all
Speaker 1: of my aw dream matches with the Sandman that possible?
Speaker 1: Did you have a Sandman in his prime versus John Moxley?
Speaker 1: Don't tell me. You don't want to see that match.
Speaker 1: Don't even tell me. Might be blood, he says Tony Knst.
Speaker 1: Since our initial announcement, fans worldwide have shown unbridled passion
Speaker 1: around the launch of Fight Forever. Unbridled, that's passionate word. Yes,
Speaker 1: they could not be bridled. No, they were so excited
Speaker 1: for this game, Fight Forever Kenny and our world class
Speaker 1: team and delivered an authentic, nostalgic feel, etcetera, etcetera. So
Speaker 1: why am I even announcing this?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: The video game was first announced in November of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: It is now May of twenty twenty three. It's been
Speaker 1: a long time since they announced this, and the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is this is potentially a real big
Speaker 1: money thing for AW. They've been banking a lot on
Speaker 1: this video game. They invested a ton into this video
Speaker 1: game with the hopes of this video game was going
Speaker 1: to be a huge hit which would result in a
Speaker 1: huge influx of income to AW. So it would not
Speaker 1: be as important as say a television deal, but you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money at stake with this game.
Speaker 1: So they've been waiting almost three years since the announcement
Speaker 1: to have it released, and it's been pushback, pushback, pushback.
Speaker 1: But it's now time. So it's gonna be very interesting
Speaker 1: to follow the release sales, what fans think about the
Speaker 1: game if they announced another game for somewhere down the road.
Speaker 1: But this is a big one financially for AW, so
Speaker 1: we can all hope for the best there.
Speaker 2: I haven't followed this intensely or anything. Has there been
Speaker 2: an estimate on how much they've put out to produce
Speaker 2: this game so far?
Speaker 1: I don't think there's actually been an estimate, But my
Speaker 1: guess is, like you know eight figures like a lot
Speaker 1: of money. A lot of money went into this to
Speaker 1: my knowledge. It could be totally wrong about that, but
Speaker 1: that's the impression that I got.
Speaker 2: Well, and I guess this is one for the listeners
Speaker 2: really obviously more than either one of us. But what
Speaker 2: is good for a release of a game like this
Speaker 2: in the first can you make that? Much? Like? What
Speaker 2: do games? And not talking about the biggest games in
Speaker 2: the world, what would a game to this level actually
Speaker 2: look to get in its main buying cycle? Seriously, because
Speaker 2: I have no idea at this point, what actually, you know,
Speaker 2: gold or platinum would actually equate to when it comes
Speaker 2: to the gaming world. Now.
Speaker 1: Also very important for AW is Wednesday. AW is considering
Speaker 1: a backup location for the debut edition of Collision. Daily's Place. Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: Florida is being considered as a backup location. AW who
Speaker 1: had originally set to launch the show at the United
Speaker 1: Center Chicago June seventeenth, but plans are currently up in
Speaker 1: the air due to a dispute between Punk and AW.
Speaker 1: Dave wrote aw's d contact with Daily's Place is a
Speaker 1: possible backup location. This is not an official change, but
Speaker 1: it has appeared that the cmpunk situation has until Wednesday
Speaker 1: to go whichever way it goes, and if he's not
Speaker 1: appearing then and they won't go to the United Center.
Speaker 1: People involved with the proposed events, so they were told
Speaker 1: yesterday about the show being possible and that a decision
Speaker 1: would be made over the next week. So they had
Speaker 1: a list of upcoming events and the Wednesday after, or
Speaker 1: maybe it's the Wednesday before, it's the wind Trust Arena.
Speaker 1: And so you know, some people saw the announcement of
Speaker 1: the wind Trust arena and they were like, well, I
Speaker 1: guess that means, you know, there's no cm punk, And
Speaker 1: in fact, that's not what that means because their plan.
Speaker 1: Their plan is they are going to run the wind
Speaker 1: Trust Arena one way or the other. So if cm
Speaker 1: punk decides he's going to do this or whatever the
Speaker 1: situation is, and you know he's on, then they're going
Speaker 1: to announce the United Center and they would do both
Speaker 1: shows within a you know, three to five day period
Speaker 1: or whatever. I can't remember if the wind Trust before after,
Speaker 1: someone probably remembers, but it's either the Dynamite before after,
Speaker 1: But that's that's the idea. So if punk is not
Speaker 1: going to be on the debut collision, then they're not
Speaker 1: gonna run the United Center. They will run Daily's place
Speaker 1: because they feel and there's two things here. Number One,
Speaker 1: they feel that if Punk's return is advertised for the
Speaker 1: United Center, they're gonna do great there, and then they'll
Speaker 1: do fine for the show at the wind Trust Arena.
Speaker 1: But if he's not there, I don't think they're confident
Speaker 1: at all of doing great numbers for the United Center
Speaker 1: and wind Trust, you know, three to five days apart.
Speaker 1: The other issue. The other issue, and this is a
Speaker 1: big issue because of what they did last time when
Speaker 1: he debuted. If they announce the United Center, everybody is
Speaker 1: gonna expect that the guy is gonna be there, and
Speaker 1: if he's not gonna be there, you're gonna have some
Speaker 1: really really unhappy people. So, because of what happened the
Speaker 1: first time, you do not want to announce the United
Speaker 1: Center unless he's for sure going to be there. Now,
Speaker 1: last week they were supposed to announce the United Center,
Speaker 1: they did not. They announced every single upcoming data location
Speaker 1: except that one we will announce next week, which meant
Speaker 1: there were seven days to get everything figured out, and
Speaker 1: you know, not just figured out, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what the agreement is. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on. But if Punk is confirmed for the show,
Speaker 1: then on Wednesday, they are going to announce the United Center,
Speaker 1: and if he's not, they're going to announce daily It's place.
Speaker 1: So that's how I'm gonna know what's going on. If
Speaker 1: you asked me right now what they are going to
Speaker 1: announce on Wednesday, I shouldn't say anything. But my presumption
Speaker 1: is that they're going to come to an agreement with
Speaker 1: Punk and they are going to announce the United Center.
Speaker 1: This obviously obvious. I could change.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna get lit up.
Speaker 1: Why for what?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: My gut is that they're going to come to an agreement.
Speaker 2: I want to see it happen again.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny is at the end of
Speaker 1: last Wednesday show, the last thing I said in the
Speaker 1: show was my presumption is that they're going to announce
Speaker 1: him tonight, and they didn't. Okay, so I guess we'll say.
Speaker 2: You got presented on Instagram. That's what happened.
Speaker 1: I still don't know why. I still have absolutely no
Speaker 1: idea why.
Speaker 2: I'd just like to know why this wasn't Iron out
Speaker 2: with a steal long before now. I mean, why the
Speaker 2: decision was made last tuesdays? It stands right now, unless
Speaker 2: any other new reporting has come out, unless AWS said
Speaker 2: anything else. Why was it Tuesday when this was decided?
Speaker 2: Why was this not ironed out ahead of time? Knowing
Speaker 2: it was going to be a headache for people on
Speaker 2: both sides of the equation no matter what the decision was,
Speaker 2: How did it go this far? That, to me is
Speaker 2: really the biggest question. You're regardless of what happens, what
Speaker 2: was the breakdown in communications that caused this to happen?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but after the break I got something
Speaker 1: I gotta say about that, all right? Yeah, back in
Speaker 1: a moment, Observer Live and the show Bright Now. Where
Speaker 1: is here? Wrestling Observer Live, Mike SIMBERBBI also Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: dot Com. You know, I don't even want to really
Speaker 1: talk about this much because you know Punk's listening. Let
Speaker 1: me make it clear, I don't even know if all
Speaker 1: this stuff with uh, you know, what's his name, Punk's
Speaker 1: buddy A Steel. I don't even know what happened here, Okay.
Speaker 1: I've heard all of the stories, and the general story
Speaker 1: is that A Steele and correct me if I got
Speaker 1: this story wrong. A Steele was fired and then CM
Speaker 1: Punk wanted him back, and so he was hired back,
Speaker 1: and Punk was given the impression that he was going
Speaker 1: to be working as an agent at Collision, and then
Speaker 1: it turned out that he was being hired back, but
Speaker 1: he was going to work remotely and never be a
Speaker 1: Collision And then this made Cmpunk angry. Is that generally
Speaker 1: the story that that's been told here? Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's the story that I heard.
Speaker 2: No, and I can pull up the specifics here. You know,
Speaker 2: from the Fight Full and from the House of Wrestling thing,
Speaker 2: it was that he was hired back at some point. Now,
Speaker 2: whether that was because nobody else was fired or whatever
Speaker 2: is obviously you would figure see him. Punk would want
Speaker 2: him back regardless of what it was. But he had
Speaker 2: apparently been working there remotely, helping out. I guess it
Speaker 2: was with Creative at that time, and it was he
Speaker 2: was led to believe. Either he was led to believe
Speaker 2: or was told he was going to be back when
Speaker 2: Collision started again. And then apparently from House ar Wrestling,
Speaker 2: the decision was made on Tuesday he was not coming back.
Speaker 2: That got to Punk, yes, and then that's what I said.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Like, they thought that he was
Speaker 1: going to be working Collision, and now the story is no,
Speaker 1: he's only going to be remote. That made Punk mad
Speaker 1: and probably a steel mad too.
Speaker 2: He's been working remotely, I know.
Speaker 1: But the story was that they thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be working in backstage at Collision when it started,
Speaker 1: and now they're told that's not the case. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: that's what the question is.
Speaker 2: Well, me is there's the issue, because that's what they
Speaker 2: are claiming is we were not only I guess, led
Speaker 2: to believe that that's what it was supposed to be,
Speaker 2: and then the decision was see.
Speaker 1: Here, it's before that. But the problem actually goes even
Speaker 1: before that. Okay, here's the thing to me. Okay, and
Speaker 1: this is not the first time. Here's the thing. Whether
Speaker 1: that exact series of events is true or not, my
Speaker 1: larger point is that this is not the first time
Speaker 1: that there has been an issue in aw between parties
Speaker 1: and the solution that Tony Kahan has come up with
Speaker 1: has resulted in both sides being angry. Okay, that's my
Speaker 1: point here. So here's the deal. Here's the deal. Okay,
Speaker 1: you have a situation where a Steel bit Kenny Omega,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that the elite really would like
Speaker 1: him to be hired back because he bit somebody. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now Punk is friends with a Steel. Punk believes that
Speaker 1: a Steele did what was right, you know whatever, and
Speaker 1: so he wants him to come back. So really, there's
Speaker 1: only two solutions that are actually going to work here,
Speaker 1: and each solution is going to make one side angry.
Speaker 1: The one solution is a Steel is fired. He ain't
Speaker 1: coming back. He bit somebody, He's not coming back. He's done. Okay,
Speaker 1: This makes a Steel angry, It makes the impunk angry,
Speaker 1: makes the elide happy. They don't want the guy back.
Speaker 1: He bits somebody, all right. The other solution is, well,
Speaker 1: we bring the guy back. He's going to be working collision.
Speaker 1: The elite is not going to be on collision. We're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna rehire him. This is gonna make seeimpunk happy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make a Steel happy, but it's gonna make
Speaker 1: the elite angry. Guy bit us and now he's back,
Speaker 1: got a job again. Okay. So the one solution makes
Speaker 1: the punk side happy and the other side the other
Speaker 1: is the opposite. Right, Well, the third solution here is
Speaker 1: we're going to rehire him, which of course makes the
Speaker 1: elite angry that he's being rehired, but he is not
Speaker 1: allowed to actually go to the show, which then makes
Speaker 1: Cmpunk and a Steel angry. So the one solution chosen
Speaker 1: was a solution that makes all sides angry. This is
Speaker 1: not the first time that I have heard that Tony
Speaker 1: wants to find a solution that makes everybody happy, but
Speaker 1: in doing so, the solution often makes everyone unhappy.
Speaker 2: Brian, let me let me ask a question here, Yes,
Speaker 2: why then was this not really ironed out long before
Speaker 2: the day before this was going to be announced? Where everybody? Again,
Speaker 2: I that's that's my only question. I guess is how
Speaker 2: did this happen?
Speaker 1: My guess is that Tony probably knew that eventually this
Speaker 1: was going to come to a head, and he figured
Speaker 1: that he would buy himself time until that day came.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's funny. You got Androtti on that
Speaker 2: poster and he was told, if you mess with Sammy,
Speaker 2: when you come back where it being, you're you're getting
Speaker 2: sent home. And he comes back and he punches dude
Speaker 2: talking about a guy that somebody his dude punches a
Speaker 2: dude God sent home, and it's like, now he's back, Like, I, Oh,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of appeasing that goes on there. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot that goes on there, I guess,
Speaker 2: and it's it's it's frustrating as a fan because again,
Speaker 2: this takes away from any excitement that's been going on
Speaker 2: and reduces and and I hate to say this, but
Speaker 2: like it reduces the debut of collision. Of course, it's
Speaker 2: already happened by being moved to the amphitheater.
Speaker 1: How many things have ever ruined the something or other
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, here is my advice
Speaker 1: to Tony Kahan, which nobody will listen to, but perhaps
Speaker 1: someone out there will listen to it, because it's a
Speaker 1: life lesson that I have learned personally. You will never
Speaker 1: have everyone like you. You will never have everybody like you.
Speaker 1: There's always going to be people that don't like you.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you have to make a decision because
Speaker 1: you're the boss, well you have to make a decision
Speaker 1: that some people are not going to like. Now, I
Speaker 1: know that everyone on the internet's going to say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: he's saying that I didn't even tell you which side
Speaker 1: Tony should choose. My point is there's two options here.
Speaker 1: A Steel is either rehired and he works backstage at
Speaker 1: Collision and him and Punk are happy, or he is
Speaker 1: fired and he does not come back and the elite
Speaker 1: are happy. That is the only solution that's going to work.
Speaker 1: If you try to make both sides happy. What happens
Speaker 1: is you are where you are now, where You've made
Speaker 1: both sides angry. Both sides are angry right now. You
Speaker 1: have not solved the problem. You've made a bigger problem.
Speaker 1: You pissed everybody off.
Speaker 2: Including you.
Speaker 1: I'm not angry, they are. Actually I'm not angry. I'm
Speaker 1: be a great It takes a lot to make me angry. Raw.
Speaker 1: Tonight is Becky Lynch and Trish Stratus Knight of Champions
Speaker 1: contract signing, Rock Lesser and Cody Roads quote under one roof.
Speaker 1: That's some branding for you. Seth Rawlins will do his
Speaker 1: interview with Corey Graves and talk about Roman Reigns and
Speaker 1: A J Kevin Sammy at a Mystery Partner versus Imperium
Speaker 1: and Candice Lay versus Zoe Stark then we have the
Speaker 1: updated lineup for NXT, where we have got Roxane Perez,
Speaker 1: Tiffany Stratton in one semifinal, Lyra val Chira and Kora
Speaker 1: Jade in the other semifinal, Nathan Fraser versus Noam dar.
Speaker 2: Oh Man, a talk show off, Tyler.
Speaker 1: Bate versus Eddie Thorpe, and the real main event this
Speaker 1: week everybody Hank versus Tank Yep.
Speaker 2: This time it's personal.
Speaker 1: Hank versus Tank. Then of course we have the can.
Speaker 2: You imagine what Booker T's commentary is gonna be like?
Speaker 1: During this we got Dynamite coming up at the MGM
Speaker 1: Grand Adam Cole, Chris Jericho contracts signing, Orange Cassie defends
Speaker 1: the International title against Kyle Fletcher. I guess presumably if
Speaker 1: Kyle wins, he's in that Battle Royal or something like that.
Speaker 1: House of Black versus Blake, Christian A. R. Fox and Metallique,
Speaker 1: who is no longer Grand, He's just simply he's just
Speaker 1: Metal FTR promo, Ricky Starks promo, Four Pillars promo, Tony
Speaker 1: Kahn promo where he'll announce the location of aw collision,
Speaker 1: Taya val Kari versus Lady Frost, and the Luca Bros.
Speaker 1: Against Claudio and Wheeler. You to four the Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor World Tag Team Championships. That's the lineup here for
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. And of course we've got
Speaker 1: all of the injuries where to even begin last night.
Speaker 1: This is not one hundred percent confirmed, but I can
Speaker 1: confirm that the people of the building thought that Mercedes
Speaker 1: broke her ankle. That's what they told me. She was
Speaker 1: doing a match with Willow Nightingale the finals of the tournament,
Speaker 1: where at least going in, Dave was told she was
Speaker 1: going to win, and they were I mean the match,
Speaker 1: I mean were there were some problems with this match.
Speaker 1: They end up fighting on the top and she slipped,
Speaker 1: fell off and injured her ankle, probably broken, that's what
Speaker 1: they believed, and she got back in the ring. She
Speaker 1: attempted to do the bank statement, but because she was hurt,
Speaker 1: she couldn't jump, and so she basically pulled Willow onto
Speaker 1: her own face and then put the move on. And
Speaker 1: then Willow got the ropes, and I guess they decided,
Speaker 1: let's take this thing home. You're going over, and Willow
Speaker 1: hit a gut wrench, sit out power bomb, and the
Speaker 1: ref counts one, he counts two, he stops counting. Mercedes
Speaker 1: does not kick out. The fans begin booing unmercifully, and
Speaker 1: so Willow grabbed her hit her with another sit out
Speaker 1: power bomb. This time the referee counted three, and Willow
Speaker 1: Nightingale is the new new Japan Strong Women's Champion and
Speaker 1: she is a strong woman. If you watch this match,
Speaker 1: let me tell you so. Mercedes appears to be a
Speaker 1: broken ankle, and hopefully he gets well soon. And then
Speaker 1: when we come back, we got about five other injuries
Speaker 1: to talk about, so stand by observer line. Well more injuries.
Speaker 1: We've got Mark Davis ossee open, Arthur Scovic surgery on
Speaker 1: his knee repairing a torn meniscus. They vacated the Strong
Speaker 1: and Tag Team titles and.
Speaker 2: The Strong and Tag Team I.
Speaker 1: W gp O. Everybody knows what I'm talking about. They
Speaker 1: didn't know what we were talking about. How could they
Speaker 1: listen to you? We have both titles up for grabs
Speaker 1: at Dominion and a match with Evil and U Duro
Speaker 1: Versus Goto and Yoshi Hashi for all of the belts
Speaker 1: they'll be so so one of those tea teams will
Speaker 1: be this Strong Bag Team Champions, okay, rid of the Belts.
Speaker 1: Those close to Davis said he will be back very
Speaker 1: soon six weeks or perhaps even shorter. Well that's at
Speaker 1: least good. Da Code of Kai torn ac l Live
Speaker 1: Morgan was injured. Both in the same match, by the way,
Speaker 1: So what happened was they were they were doing a match,
Speaker 1: and uh, I was I always hate, you know, killing
Speaker 1: people's gimmicks, but guys know Nick Gage. Yeah, well we
Speaker 1: were doing a match and uh and Nick Gage and
Speaker 1: Antonio against Tom and I for beyond I think it was,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we're going over everything, and h
Speaker 1: Nick is going to do his comeback and he's going
Speaker 1: to hit the running face wash boot in the corner.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys actually know Nick Gage,
Speaker 1: I I I don't want to kill his gimmicks because
Speaker 1: he might kill me. But he's the sweetest guy. And
Speaker 1: he sits Tom down in the corner and he like
Speaker 1: just gently touches his face and he goes, just turn
Speaker 1: your face just like this, and he won't fit. He's
Speaker 1: explaining it like the softest, gentlest explanation, probably to do
Speaker 1: the running boot face wash or whatever they call it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the move. You know, you you the
Speaker 1: person turns their head and the foot goes right past
Speaker 1: him or whatever, so not to break kfe, but you
Speaker 1: don't actually running boot them in the head as ard
Speaker 1: as you can, unless you're Sammy's a on Roman reigns
Speaker 1: at WrestleMania in which he booted that guy's face or
Speaker 1: the uprights. I was right there. Holy smokes, he boot
Speaker 1: that time in the nineties maybe, but anyway, so that's
Speaker 1: what she was doing to Live. But in flying past her,
Speaker 1: if you watch the video, it's like she sat like
Speaker 1: right on Lib's shoulder. And I don't know the extent
Speaker 1: of the injury, but Lives got a shoulder injury that
Speaker 1: might need surgery, was what I was told.
Speaker 2: So she was.
Speaker 1: Hurt, and then you know, Dakota knew she was hurt,
Speaker 1: and so the way it was explained to me was, well,
Speaker 1: she was trying to protect her and in doing so,
Speaker 1: she tore her own ACL. So we had two serious
Speaker 1: injuries in the same match, and Dakota's undergoing surgery, and
Speaker 1: I guess Lib Morgan may or may not be undergoing surgery.
Speaker 1: So that's the update there, Will Osprey, It says here
Speaker 1: according to Dave great pain last night from the right shoulder.
Speaker 1: He had an injured shoulder that he's coming back from
Speaker 1: a win over Tanahashi in Long Beach. Returned from the
Speaker 1: injury to the ac joint suffered in a match with
Speaker 1: Davis in the New Japan Cup. We've heard nothing regarding
Speaker 1: being out of action, only that he was in pain
Speaker 1: and his actions at the end of the match weren't
Speaker 1: selling but were legitimate. Well, I got a lot of
Speaker 1: experience with those ac joint injuries because I injured both
Speaker 1: of them. How well. One was a power bomb off
Speaker 1: the top rope, which I didn't want to take, but
Speaker 1: I did, and in the end that was right. And
Speaker 1: then the other one was, of all things, because this
Speaker 1: is how wrestling works, of all things, I hurt myself
Speaker 1: on a seated drop kick. Oh man, how well. I'd
Speaker 1: never done one before, and I don't know why I
Speaker 1: even thought about it, but the fellow was just sitting
Speaker 1: up and I thought, I'm just gonna do a basement
Speaker 1: drop kicker? What do they call it? And really, all
Speaker 1: you have to do if you're not incompetant is just
Speaker 1: take a back bump. But instead I tried to do
Speaker 1: a normal dr upkick low. So I turned sideways and
Speaker 1: I landed sideways on my shoulder. That's how you injure
Speaker 1: your ac joint when you land sideways on your shoulder.
Speaker 1: And uh. In both cases, I couldn't do jack for
Speaker 1: a long time. I couldn't bench press the bar, I
Speaker 1: couldn't do push ups on my knees. Even I couldn't.
Speaker 2: Do anything, couldn't do jack too.
Speaker 1: I could do nothing. And it was a long long
Speaker 1: time before I was able to. And there's like various
Speaker 1: there's like a first, second or third degree ac joint sprain,
Speaker 1: and like you get a bad one, and I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't come back in a month or two months.
Speaker 1: So all the best to will Osprey because that sucks.
Speaker 2: Put that on your list against getting hurt doing the
Speaker 2: UH was the roll of the dice.
Speaker 1: I heard myself taking snake eyes.
Speaker 2: Snake eyes.
Speaker 1: You think you know where the mad is, but it's not. Bro.
Speaker 1: You don't understand how how fragile the human body is
Speaker 1: when it doesn't know what's happening. That's the issue. That's
Speaker 1: why you know, you get in a you get rear ended,
Speaker 1: and it's much worse because you didn't even know what
Speaker 1: was coming up whatever? Or you know the other day
Speaker 1: I was I was just walking and there was a
Speaker 1: hole in the ground and I and it was not
Speaker 1: even very deep. It was like that deep. I stepped
Speaker 1: in that hole. Man, my back, that was a bad time.
Speaker 2: Git about the back? What about the knee?
Speaker 1: Now, my knee was fine, all right, but my back
Speaker 1: was not fine. It was not fine at all. It's
Speaker 1: your age though, No, it's not my age. It was
Speaker 1: a hole in the earth that I stepped in.
Speaker 2: Did you fall down? And you know, no, grass.
Speaker 1: No, you just do that weird thinking wre you go
Speaker 1: and you kind of you know, like.
Speaker 2: The old man. Did you have the old man walk
Speaker 2: for a minute after the workers walking?
Speaker 1: Like, ah, it ain't a worker's walk, bro, That's how
Speaker 1: I walked. So that's the update on all of the injuries.
Speaker 2: There's actually couple more. I hate to say it, and
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't see the match. I don't
Speaker 2: know how bad it is. But tag ishm Morey's best.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it's a concussion.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a a cervical and so it's like, oh god,
Speaker 2: what a cervical mean?
Speaker 1: But if it's the Sai that's what was that may
Speaker 1: not be a concussion.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, So again I don't know how bad off
Speaker 2: he was. I don't know if it was a stinger
Speaker 2: or what exactly it was that happened, but he's out,
Speaker 2: his tournament's going to be over with and there was
Speaker 2: actually I guess shouldn't a Katsumata in a match over
Speaker 2: the weekend of DDT broke his ankle. So now the
Speaker 2: KO and D tag team titles and the Extreme titles
Speaker 2: are going to be apparently now up for grabs on
Speaker 2: the same show that Nick Wayne will be on it
Speaker 2: in June at some point like June twenty fifth of
Speaker 2: Quark and all.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, I know, doctor, but DJ says, whatever it
Speaker 1: is is affecting his right shoulder and arm and usually
Speaker 1: usually the neck, it affects the left side. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, dude, that's not good. That's not good. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's all the updates for now.
Speaker 2: Let's hope. So when it comes to injuries at least, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not good. Oh, we haven't even talked about, like you,
Speaker 1: how many injuries are an NXT. Oh, I mean we
Speaker 1: have talked about it ad nauseum. But there's a bunch dude,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know all of them. SmackDown had uh.
Speaker 1: Actually we'll finish with New Japan first because I saw
Speaker 1: two of the other matches. We had will Ospray and
Speaker 1: ton Ashi, which we talked about. This match was awesome,
Speaker 1: last few minutes were great. It's kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: early on it was uh. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see it. Actually I will say this.
Speaker 1: It was a Will Osprey walk and talk match, which
Speaker 1: is still more action than ninety nine percent of people
Speaker 1: in the ring. But for Will Ospray, he walked and.
Speaker 2: Talked for half of this walking drum brother.
Speaker 1: They did some they did an air drum and air
Speaker 1: guitar you know battle, They had a concert, and then
Speaker 1: they picked it up at the end with some awesome
Speaker 1: near falls and Osprey hit the Hidden Blade storm Breaker
Speaker 1: for the Penny moves on in this mini tournament where
Speaker 1: the winner will be getting a shot at Kenny Omega's
Speaker 1: IWGP US title. And then the other match, which actually
Speaker 1: I love this more than the Osprey ton Ashi match,
Speaker 1: is she eat Rocky and Okada versus Moxley showed at
Speaker 1: Umino and Wheeler yudah. This match ruled and everybody looked great.
Speaker 1: Poor Rocky, Poor Rocky. God he got cut off and
Speaker 1: then Moxley tagged in, and dude, Moxy just pummeled this
Speaker 1: poor guy. He just beat the stuffing out of this line.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. I hate to say it, Rock
Speaker 2: I love you. I gave Moxley ten bucks because you
Speaker 2: deserve to be horrible calling in here on that potato
Speaker 2: of a phone that you had on Friday.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know, but it's all love now, sure that
Speaker 1: was the phone and not the byeline. I'd never blame Rocky.
Speaker 1: You don't think that guy's got a good phone. He
Speaker 1: goes all over the world, Come on. But anyway, the
Speaker 1: point is he done got beat up, dude, and then
Speaker 1: he made a comeback where he did my new favorite
Speaker 1: John Moxley spot that he's been doing for about a
Speaker 1: week now, which is he gets heat on a guy
Speaker 1: and then the other guy hits a big move on him,
Speaker 1: and so his response is to pop up to his feet,
Speaker 1: and he's so groggy he leaps for a tag, but
Speaker 1: it's the wrong corner. He has to stumble to his
Speaker 1: feet and find the actual corner, and by that time
Speaker 1: the other guy is running a rough shot, and so
Speaker 1: we had all of these big spots. They're teasing Okada
Speaker 1: and Shooter. At some point they're teasing Ocada and Moxley.
Speaker 1: We had man just one after another, and then finally
Speaker 1: Okada hit the rain Maker on Moxley, sent him outside,
Speaker 1: Old Shooter hit the death Rider on Rocky pinned him.
Speaker 1: This was a great man great.
Speaker 2: Made better by that crowd because that crowd was fantastic.
Speaker 2: I thought it. They came across really really well last night.
Speaker 1: Then we also had the uh the usos and Ray
Speaker 1: and Santo's Escobar, which if you watch New Japan first
Speaker 1: you'll be like, as one that good, But if you
Speaker 1: watch this cold you watch the rest of the show.
Speaker 1: This match was really good, and it was another one
Speaker 1: where they got about fourteen minutes and the first seven
Speaker 1: was just that's whatever. You know, they're getting heat on.
Speaker 2: They had to do some stuff before you get They
Speaker 2: got to.
Speaker 1: Put some time in, yeah, and then you know, then
Speaker 1: they they started doing all the big spots at the
Speaker 1: end and it was great. And finally Ray hits the
Speaker 1: six one nine on Jimmy after Sammy and Kevin interfered
Speaker 1: Escobar hits the big splash. Got to pin these USO's. Man,
Speaker 1: they're losing a bunch of matches here and Roman he
Speaker 1: is not happy. Now. I know people don't like this,
Speaker 1: but I like SmackDown. But I have a complaint and
Speaker 1: I must get it out. And I actually don't even
Speaker 1: blame WWE. I blame Cole. Michael Cole, who has improved
Speaker 1: in his job a lot, but he has something he
Speaker 1: does that absolutely drives me irrationally crazy. And it happened
Speaker 1: multiple times during the show. It's always a tag match,
Speaker 1: So let me doing this tag match, and you know
Speaker 1: something will happen. There's a double team. Ref turns around,
Speaker 1: counts a pin or whatever, and Michael Cole will make
Speaker 1: a note that the referee did not see the double team.
Speaker 1: Bro dude, do you know how many double teams there
Speaker 1: are in every single not JUSTWE, but every single tag
Speaker 1: match on the face of this planet. There's double teaming
Speaker 1: all the time. And now you're trying to tell me
Speaker 1: that if the ref catches double teaming there will be
Speaker 1: like a disqualification. It happened once earlier. What match was it?
Speaker 1: It was? There were two tag match. You know, it's
Speaker 1: worse hold on. I gotta get this brawling brutes. Okay.
Speaker 1: So they're doing the brawling brutes and pretty deadly, and
Speaker 1: the referee is distracted and pretty deadly hits their their
Speaker 1: their spilt milk, and then the referee you know, turns
Speaker 1: around and Cole goes the referee distracted during that double team.
Speaker 1: So I guess now it's legal. Well, he said the
Speaker 1: exact same thing in the main event, but the reason
Speaker 1: was so infuriating the main event is, uh, there was
Speaker 1: a distraction. Jay hit the pop up neck breaker got
Speaker 1: a near fall. Cole says the ref was distracted didn't
Speaker 1: see the double team. The very next spot, the users
Speaker 1: are doing a double souplex in the middle of the ring.
Speaker 1: The ref's right there watching this double team. But that's okay,
Speaker 1: way not this way.
Speaker 2: Hate that.
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Speaker 1: going to be back to talk a lot of different things,
Speaker 1: including New Japan Strong running in Japan, a New Japan
Speaker 1: Strong branded show which he's advertised for, So we got
Speaker 1: to talk about that, and we'll get his thoughts on
Speaker 1: the top matches from yesterday as well as a full
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Speaker 1: but uh, what we're looking for is not so easy
Speaker 1: to find, it turns out, so that'll have to be
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Speaker 2: What yeah, what are you trying to find.
Speaker 1: That prime energy drink?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: God, I can't find that thing anywhere. Not much, bro.
Speaker 1: You think it's my idea? You think I need an
Speaker 1: energy drink?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's the last thing I need.
Speaker 2: You better hope that he hasn't had one, because he
Speaker 2: already put up on Twitter that he's just going to
Speaker 2: badger you for about an hour to see if he
Speaker 2: can make your head explode.
Speaker 1: Good luck, brother, that ain't gonna work on me. And
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Speaker 1: for the next about four weeks. And then twenty one
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Speaker 2: You're bad.
Speaker 1: I've heard people that have watched that first show and man,
Speaker 1: bro oh man, oh my god. Well you know you
Speaker 1: shouldn't stick up for that damn Orca, should you. I
Speaker 1: hope you all learned a lesson about sticking up for
Speaker 1: that whail. I don't like him all right here, everybody, Thanks.
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