Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined by a full house here. Today we
Speaker 1: have Scott Bogman, we have Pat Fitzmorris, and we have
Speaker 1: Andrew Ericsson, and we are mock drafting. It is the
Speaker 1: rare redraft superflex mock draft. I feel like usually when
Speaker 1: I'm doing a super flex one, it's dynasty. This is redraft.
Speaker 1: We wanted to give something for these superflex managers who
Speaker 1: are getting ready for their drafts.
Speaker 2: Here in the next month. It is also PPR.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be drafting three starting receivers, seven bench spots,
Speaker 1: no kickers or defenses, and yes, like I said, a
Speaker 1: super flex reminder for everybody that all of our twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six consensus rankings and tiers can be found at
Speaker 1: fantasypros dot com slash rankings. Before we dive in, Erickson,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling about this mock.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling really good. I've done a lot of superflex
Speaker 3: best Ball drafts with Tom Strachan over on the Best
Speaker 3: Ball live stream on Twitch, so I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: not really in on Chartered Waters here. I know we
Speaker 3: haven't done as much superflex mock drafting, but I feel
Speaker 3: ready to go. I got my cheat sheets sloaded up
Speaker 3: Draft Wizard. You boys better be ready to buckle up
Speaker 3: because I got an A in the super Flex Real
Speaker 3: Draft Best Ball earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Very nice, Eric, she's drafting with the one oh seven fits.
Speaker 1: You are right next to time at the one oh six.
Speaker 1: Any kind of strategy you're looking to test out today?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did want to try from the middle of
Speaker 4: the first round and see. Honestly, I'm I'm hoping i'd
Speaker 4: get to skip quarterback in Roun one and see what
Speaker 4: things look like.
Speaker 5: Glad we're doing the show.
Speaker 4: I know there have been a lot of people on
Speaker 4: our discord asking me when we were going to do
Speaker 4: a super Flex mock, and I know one of the
Speaker 4: people asking me that question, Mattie Ice, is in the
Speaker 4: mock with us today, So yeah, they should be fun.
Speaker 2: Bog.
Speaker 1: When you're at the one oh nine, I assume you
Speaker 1: will not be skipping quarterback. That's just not really in
Speaker 1: your DNA from what I can.
Speaker 6: Tell, probably not, but it is a mock, and I
Speaker 6: did pick kind of the middle to do that specifically,
Speaker 6: so we'll see, like if there's too good of a
Speaker 6: of a quarterback to fall back to me. I did
Speaker 6: a mock yesterday where I was picking at nine and
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels fell to me, and I was like, well,
Speaker 6: better go ahead and take Jayden here. So if a
Speaker 6: good one falls to me, I will take one by
Speaker 6: I am going to try to not take a quarterback
Speaker 6: in the first round and see what it looks like,
Speaker 6: because it's something I typically don't do. Hopefully the Dewey
Speaker 6: decimal system doesn't smoke us over here, so that would
Speaker 6: be nice.
Speaker 1: I kind of wish I was picking in the middle,
Speaker 1: just because I never do. When you're hosting, it so
Speaker 1: much easier to pick on the end. So that's why
Speaker 1: I always take either the one oh one or the
Speaker 1: one twelve. I've got the one oh one today. It
Speaker 1: would be nice to kind of test out a middle one.
Speaker 1: It's just harder when you're trying to play hosts as well,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I always either end up with
Speaker 1: whoever follows me at the one twelve or Josh Allen
Speaker 1: with the one oh one, which is who I'm going
Speaker 1: to take.
Speaker 6: This guy can't juggle, my god, come on, it's.
Speaker 2: Harder, you know, sorry, It's easier to just do it
Speaker 2: this way.
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Speaker 1: I will not waste any time. I will take Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: No sense in overthinking it. You have the one on one.
Speaker 1: It's super flex. I think he could argue he's in
Speaker 1: a tier of his own, even I know, you know
Speaker 1: fits really like Drake May. When we're talking Dynasty Lamar
Speaker 1: could be really good this year. You know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep it simple. Josh Allen. One oh, one easy pick.
Speaker 1: Would anybody here have done anything different? Or is it
Speaker 1: Josh Allen across the board for you three, Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: For me, it's got to be Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: I think there's a case for Drake May personally.
Speaker 1: Really, I think if you're gonna I think what the
Speaker 1: second pick is interesting because I think May versus Lamar
Speaker 1: is is really intriguing to me. There's been a lot
Speaker 1: of very positive discussion about what Declan Doyle has done
Speaker 1: in camp so far in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Lamar has won the MVP.
Speaker 1: I keep saying this that he's won the MVP every
Speaker 1: time he's at the first time, you know, offensive play
Speaker 1: caller his first year and that new offense, he's won
Speaker 1: the MVP. He does go one to two here to
Speaker 1: Maddie Ice, and then May goes three, so unsurprising one, two, three,
Speaker 1: you could quibble with the order.
Speaker 2: I think on two and three for the.
Speaker 6: Minute, Can I ask ericson real quick, if you're doing
Speaker 6: Katie in a super flex twelve man, what is your
Speaker 6: number one spot to pick at? Is it three because
Speaker 6: you get one of the best quarterbacks, you get the
Speaker 6: nice pick coming back in the second or would you
Speaker 6: maybe go something later to pivot from quarterback in the
Speaker 6: first round.
Speaker 3: I think for me it's Drake May is the person
Speaker 3: that I want the most, so kind of strategically placing
Speaker 3: my draft slot where I can get him the latest.
Speaker 3: So here he went third overall, so I know that
Speaker 3: when we've done the Super Flex Mox or the Best
Speaker 3: Ball Draft with Tom, I've got Drake may at one,
Speaker 3: We've gotten Drake may three, have gotten to Drake may
Speaker 3: at five. So it varies a lot of the time.
Speaker 3: And look, I don't need to go on a whole
Speaker 3: soliloquy about Drake Mayo over Josh Allen, because I do
Speaker 3: think Josh Allen is still he's the quarterback to beat.
Speaker 3: He's number one for a reason. But some of his
Speaker 3: passing yards per game fell off a little bit last year. Now,
Speaker 3: a lot of that to do with the receiving corps,
Speaker 3: but double some injuries at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: We'll see how long the rushing lasts. Drake May's rushing quarterback.
Speaker 3: Drake may also got a j. Brown and Romeo Dops,
Speaker 3: two receivers that are better than and we're in the
Speaker 3: head last year. So I just think that this could
Speaker 3: be another ceiling year for Drake Maye.
Speaker 1: Erickson is in the clock here fits you do go
Speaker 1: away from quarterback taking Bjon Robinson? Now did you make
Speaker 1: this peck having seen his new haircut.
Speaker 5: I've not seen the new haircut. Am I going to
Speaker 5: regret the pick.
Speaker 1: It's it's astonishing. It is a jaw dropping decision by him.
Speaker 1: This haircut Bob and brought it up before we started
Speaker 1: taping the show, before you hopped in the room, and
Speaker 1: my jaw hit the floor.
Speaker 2: Quite honestly interesting.
Speaker 5: I've not seen that. Hopefully this is not a bad omen.
Speaker 1: Well, well, what was what went into your decision of
Speaker 1: Bijon versus Gibbs, because it clear if you want to
Speaker 1: go running back here, what went into that choice for
Speaker 1: you between those two.
Speaker 4: I'm really close and if I'm lucky enough to get
Speaker 4: the one oh one in redraft in one qbs, obviously
Speaker 4: in six different leagues, I would probably split it three
Speaker 4: and three. But if you're going to force me to
Speaker 4: make a choice, and I know Gibbs has had the
Speaker 4: better touchdown.
Speaker 5: Output for sure.
Speaker 4: What I prefer about Beijon just that he's bigger. If
Speaker 4: you're gonna have a workhorse role, like I want the
Speaker 4: guy who's you know, built more like a Mini van
Speaker 4: than I want the guy with the NASCAR build rather
Speaker 4: than the Indie car build for workorse duty. And I
Speaker 4: feel that's, you know, Bijon is maybe just a little
Speaker 4: bit better equipped to handle the sort of workhorse role
Speaker 4: that we hope both guys are getting this year.
Speaker 1: We're into the early second round. But circling back to
Speaker 1: your first pick, ericson you do go Jamar Chase. I
Speaker 1: think if you want to go away from quarterback, that's
Speaker 1: also a pretty easy choice of best receiver on the board.
Speaker 1: I argue that be the best non quarterback on the board.
Speaker 1: Was that just kind of your goal all along to
Speaker 1: get somebody like Chase?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't realize that Gibbs was still available. I honestly,
Speaker 3: I didn't even fathom the idea that he would actually
Speaker 3: still be on the board. So I was just looking
Speaker 3: really quickly because I was talking about Drake Mayo while
Speaker 3: I was on the clock. So of course I'm distracted,
Speaker 3: distracted and drafting. But Jamar Chase still is my number
Speaker 3: three overall player. It's full PPR. He can be the
Speaker 3: wide receiver one with a healthy Joe Burrow, and I
Speaker 3: do think that in full PPR you are a little
Speaker 3: bit more open. I'm more open to drafting the top
Speaker 3: skill players because it's easier for them to close the
Speaker 3: gap versus and a half PPR where the quarterbacks just
Speaker 3: scored that many more points than the skill position players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think full PPR starting through receivers chases is
Speaker 1: justifiable for sure in the middle of the first round.
Speaker 1: Even in super flex, Bogman, you do go at the
Speaker 1: quarterback with your first pick Jade and Daniels, and you
Speaker 1: pair him with Christian McCaffrey in round two.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on your first two picks?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, Heerts and Herbert went ahead of
Speaker 6: Jayde and Daniels, so I mean he's my fifth player
Speaker 6: in super flex, So to get him at nine I
Speaker 6: thought was just too big of a deal to pass.
Speaker 6: Gibbs would have been a fine pick there too, but
Speaker 6: I got McCaffrey on the way back. So, like in
Speaker 6: the built to start here, even though it's a lot
Speaker 6: of injury risk up at the top.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this earlier, and obviously I wasn't
Speaker 1: in a position to pick him. I think I might
Speaker 1: have justin Herbert as my QB five, and I think
Speaker 1: you might be closer to QB four than QB six.
Speaker 1: I'm just like so intoxicated with this is the most
Speaker 1: talented quarterback that we've seen in one of these Shanahan
Speaker 1: style systems before. In terms of the arm strength and
Speaker 1: the processing and just everything. Like I want to see
Speaker 1: this terminator quarterback in a Mike McDaniel offense, and I
Speaker 1: really want to be invested in it rather than playing
Speaker 1: guessing games on like is it Quentin Johnson this week?
Speaker 2: Is it Trey Harris? Like I like Lad McConkey.
Speaker 1: I just want a lot of Justin Herbert, and I
Speaker 1: think i'd rather have him than jayde Daniels in a
Speaker 1: new offense coming off the injured year Jalen Hurts. You know,
Speaker 1: there's always been questions there, Like I just like him
Speaker 1: that much. I think it's understandable. There's definitely a lot
Speaker 1: of upside there, but I still it's it's the legs man.
Speaker 2: I'm on the clock all year. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 2: that's fair.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Bowers just I think he could break
Speaker 1: fantasy this year.
Speaker 2: It's full PPR.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna catch a ton of passes in
Speaker 1: Vegas and be the tight end.
Speaker 2: One second pick to pair with Alan and Bowers.
Speaker 1: Obviously, I'd like to get some running back and receiver
Speaker 1: help getting going here. I'm just gonna take you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a j Brown new offense paired with
Speaker 1: the elite quarterback, you know, Drake London. I just have
Speaker 1: more questions about the quarterback that he's paired with right now.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the tiebreaker for me going with Brown.
Speaker 1: I could have easily gone London or Nico wanted to
Speaker 1: take a receiver there, given who's on the board, but
Speaker 1: I go aj Brown fits here on the clock here
Speaker 1: at a couple of spots, You've got Bijon and Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson so far. Are you going to kind of break
Speaker 1: the sea on quarterback now or looking to wait even
Speaker 1: longer at the position?
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to break the sea on quarterback. Well,
Speaker 4: see though no guarantees, I mean there are I've said
Speaker 4: that in one QB, I feel like there are about
Speaker 4: eighteen quarterbacks. I would be okay with this my starting quarterback,
Speaker 4: and some of those guys are still on the board now.
Speaker 4: I don't know if any of those guys are going
Speaker 4: to be on the board when I pick again in
Speaker 4: the middle of the fourth round, so I'm probably gonna
Speaker 4: have to act.
Speaker 5: Here pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Ericson, you have Jamar Chase paired with Brock Purdy, was
Speaker 1: pretty an easy choice for you. Compared to you know,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott still on the board, Jackson Dart, Bow Nicks,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. When you were at that spot, did it
Speaker 1: feel like there was a bit of a discussion with
Speaker 1: you internally to make that call or was that easy
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 3: I was looking at another player that I don't want
Speaker 3: to name until half as Morris makes his pick, So
Speaker 3: what FITSI after you?
Speaker 6: I love this tension.
Speaker 3: There was another quarterback.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, well, while Rolfits is on the clock,
Speaker 1: I'll just run through a recap of some of the
Speaker 1: other guys they've gone off the board, James Cook, O
Speaker 1: Mary and Hampton, Ceedee Lamb, Dak Prescott in the back
Speaker 1: half of round two, first half of round three. Besides
Speaker 1: the picks I made Drake London and Patrick Mahomes, Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor that feels like a pretty nice value early if
Speaker 1: he picks into round three. I considered him at the turn,
Speaker 1: and then Chase Brown and then Jackson Dart goes to
Speaker 1: you fits.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was a little torn between Dart and Knicks. Thought
Speaker 4: it was encouraging that Nicks led the league in pass
Speaker 4: attempts last year, even though he was playing on a
Speaker 4: team with a really good defense, which suggests he's going
Speaker 4: to throw a lot of passes again this year. Dart
Speaker 4: is going to be a wild ride for sure because
Speaker 4: of the way he plays, which is, you know, reckless.
Speaker 4: Recklessly would be putting it kindly. I'm a little more
Speaker 4: encouraged though by the fact that we saw Malik Neighbors
Speaker 4: looking pretty good in practice the other day. And boy,
Speaker 4: I mean I had Eric I had Melik Neighbors ranked
Speaker 4: wide receiver twenty two a couple days ago when Ericson
Speaker 4: and I just took him in the King's Classic Draft
Speaker 4: in Canton where we were partnering up like at the
Speaker 4: end of the beginning of the fourth rone and a
Speaker 4: fourteen team draft. I mean, he goes up to like
Speaker 4: if he's good to go for week one with seemingly
Speaker 4: no limitations, is the top ten wide receiver, And I
Speaker 4: feel that much better about Jackson Dart with the healthy
Speaker 4: Molik Neighbors.
Speaker 1: Ericson, the fact that you didn't take a quarterback here
Speaker 1: after Fitz picked, is that telling that you wanted Dart exactly?
Speaker 3: That's who I was going to go after here, and
Speaker 3: it was someone that I was considering even when I
Speaker 3: was picking in the second round with Rock Perdy. I
Speaker 3: do think that the conversation in super flex formats, I
Speaker 3: do look at quarterbacks a little bit differently. I think that,
Speaker 3: if I was able to it, I actually have quarterbacks
Speaker 3: ranked differently in the two quarterback league versus a one
Speaker 3: quarterback Leaguecause in one quarterack league you can really just
Speaker 3: shoot for the moon, where you can be like I
Speaker 3: want all upside because you can play the waiver wire,
Speaker 3: Whereas in two quarterback you really value I think a
Speaker 3: little bit more of that stability where you're just looking
Speaker 3: for is this guy starting every single week, where which
Speaker 3: Dart because of his more volatile type of play the
Speaker 3: rushing in terms of okay, is this guy gonna be
Speaker 3: the blue medical tent every other week? That concerns me
Speaker 3: if I've taken me the second round as my stable quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's why I wanted Purty instead, because I feel really
Speaker 3: good about him. I know he got hurt last year,
Speaker 3: but in terms of him being there available putting up
Speaker 3: weekly production at a top twelve rate, I feel good
Speaker 3: about that, which is why I preferred Dart as at
Speaker 3: two then a one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bunting.
Speaker 1: So far, we're a few picks in a round four,
Speaker 1: the only manager to not have taken a quarterback. A
Speaker 1: couple of managers already have two, he has none. He
Speaker 1: started with Pooka, JSN, Devon h Chan and Kenneth Walker,
Speaker 1: while Bogman's on the clock fits.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Start from Bunting, while really good, start with the positional guy,
Speaker 4: so it'll be interesting to see how Bunting can spackle
Speaker 4: that quarterback position.
Speaker 1: I know Bogman wanted George Pickens based on his sigh
Speaker 1: the fick before him, Bob, when you've started Jayden and
Speaker 1: Daniels CMC, Trey McBride, you and I are the only
Speaker 1: two to take a tight end so far, and then
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford as your QB two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just a little more stability with the wild ride
Speaker 6: that is Jane Daniels with Matthew Stafford right, CMC. I
Speaker 6: thought was a nice value pick, but I was between
Speaker 6: McBride and Pickens. I went with McBride here lots of
Speaker 6: touchdown upside obviously at a premium position, but man to
Speaker 6: miss Pickens by one spot was brutal here, especially if
Speaker 6: like very few quarterbacks go in between this pick two.
Speaker 6: But I did just pivot to Stafford to give myself
Speaker 6: some stability at the QB spot. A.
Speaker 2: Lave goes next and then ericson.
Speaker 1: You take Flowers, a player that we've talked about a
Speaker 1: lot on various shows this summer. You are clearly buying
Speaker 1: into him in this new offense led by Decklan Doyle
Speaker 1: paired with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think that he has improved every single
Speaker 3: year of his NFL career. He is elite after the catch,
Speaker 3: he can make plays downfield. He's super explosive. So JSN
Speaker 3: last year was one of the rare wide receiver ones
Speaker 3: or wide receiver two. However, it was in weeks seventeen
Speaker 3: and it was right neck and neck with Pooka. But
Speaker 3: how is he able to be so highly ranked and
Speaker 3: finishing without seeing a monster red zone? Chair was because
Speaker 3: of all the explosive plays he was able to generate,
Speaker 3: especially downfield. So I look at Za Flowers, I think
Speaker 3: he has no competition for targets. I don't think Mark
Speaker 3: Andrews has anything left in the tank. And it's Bateman,
Speaker 3: it's rookie receivers. I think Flowers could flirt with a
Speaker 3: thirty percent target share, and I think he could see
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred perceiving yards this year. And if you can
Speaker 3: score touchdowns like like, that's the one thing. It's like,
Speaker 3: imagine if happy to have a putt maagine z flowers
Speaker 3: how to score touchdowns? Like and then we're cooking with gas.
Speaker 2: Uh fits you goo Kyler.
Speaker 1: So you got Dart and Kyler as your QB duo here,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling about that pair?
Speaker 4: Could not resist thirde to go double Konami at quarterback,
Speaker 4: and you know with the two running guys and being
Speaker 4: able to pair up Kyler with Justin Jefferson works really well.
Speaker 4: Kyler was QB one in fantasy points per game in
Speaker 4: every season of his career until last. And now he
Speaker 4: gets to play with Kevin O'Connell and if he can
Speaker 4: just win this QB battle against JJ McCarthy. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: I'm feeling pretty good about kyler bounce back this year.
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Speaker 1: at these first four rounds are sort of the real
Speaker 1: core of your team, obviously, somebody other than your own team.
Speaker 1: I want to go around the horn and hear who
Speaker 1: you guys like best so far, Bachman.
Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Who's a team that you like
Speaker 2: best their start other than your own.
Speaker 6: I like Pepper with Gibbs Lawrence and then the two
Speaker 6: strong wide receivers right next to me, even though Pepper
Speaker 6: took pickings from me. Very annoying. But I really like
Speaker 6: this built so far. As long as we show up
Speaker 6: that second QB, which I think is on the way
Speaker 6: here in this.
Speaker 2: Round ericson what about you?
Speaker 3: I like your team, Worm, I think you're shaping up
Speaker 3: pretty well. My fellow zero RB brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always fall into that when I do these mocks,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: And then when I do a real draft, I'm like,
Speaker 2: Shoul probably should get a running back a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: But I just I'm like, I'm just again, it's a
Speaker 1: three receiver league, it's full PPR, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I love these players so much. I would have considered,
Speaker 1: like if Derek Henry had gotten back to me based
Speaker 1: on the rankings, I would have considered. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about Jeremiah Love maybe, but they didn't get to me.
Speaker 1: And I didn't like the running backs there as much
Speaker 1: as the receivers. So I appreciate that shout fits who
Speaker 1: stands out to you.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like Bonting's start, but as I mentioned,
Speaker 4: they're about eighteen maybe nineteen quarterbacks i'd feel okay with,
Speaker 4: and by my count, they're seventeen off the board and
Speaker 4: Bonting does not have his first quarterback yet. So but
Speaker 4: I do also like the zero RB starts with you
Speaker 4: and Ericson. You know, yours a little partial years just
Speaker 4: because you have Brock powers. You have the best quarterback
Speaker 4: and the best tight end in this league, and your
Speaker 4: wide receivers are still hot fire with AJ Brown, Lad
Speaker 4: mcconachie and Teederron McMillan so that's a pretty impressive start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, taking Bowers always kind of means like you're going
Speaker 1: to be short somewhere else if you get that early
Speaker 1: tight end. But I just think the idea of pairing
Speaker 1: the best tight end with the best quarterback, if I
Speaker 1: ever have the one on one like, that's the direction
Speaker 1: I want to go. I really like grim just because
Speaker 1: I like Herbert so much. I'm buying into a gent
Speaker 1: bounce back. You know, if bo Nix is healthy in
Speaker 1: the ankle and can still be mobile, and then Alave
Speaker 1: was like a real league winner in December last year
Speaker 1: for player fantasy managers. The other guy that I would
Speaker 1: point out is I think Suggs is having a great start,
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, aman Ross, Saint Brown, Saquon Barkley, and Derek Henry. Like,
Speaker 1: we don't care about the age of those running backs.
Speaker 1: This is a redraft league. I think that's really fun
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to see that it rested. It doesn't
Speaker 1: sug to be him else not him, by the way.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna unposit draft here now, but I want to
Speaker 1: get your guys opinion. I'm leak neighbors because you know
Speaker 1: you kind of referenced him earlier, like we are sort
Speaker 1: of navigating this injury landscape with him in his return,
Speaker 1: and like there was I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: assumed he'd just be on puffed. He does a start
Speaker 1: camp on pup. Some of the highlights look pretty good fits.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Malik at five oh three?
Speaker 1: I considered him at the turn when I took Ladd
Speaker 1: in Tetra, I decided to avoid the injury risk. But
Speaker 1: what do you think about where neighbors does go?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to look and see where what was
Speaker 4: he as far as the count at wide receiver?
Speaker 5: Looks like he was about.
Speaker 2: Something like eighteenth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that's good value. Now, I think
Speaker 4: he's got to be inside the top twenty at wide receiver,
Speaker 4: and arguably he's closer to ten than twenty.
Speaker 6: Wide receiver two for sure, and that on that team, Yeah,
Speaker 6: behind Ceedee Lamb, I think is perfect is a perfect fit.
Speaker 1: A lot of really good receivers going off in the
Speaker 1: last seven or eight picks here, I mean in the
Speaker 1: last looks like eight nine picks. It's we've had DeVante Smith,
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Ladd mccaughie, Teo McMillan, Malik Neighbors, T Higgins,
Speaker 1: Amica Aguca, and now Gen Waddle. That's a really strong
Speaker 1: stretch late fourth, early fifth. Obviously some of those guys
Speaker 1: falling because all the quarterbacks going early the superflex. But
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about waiting until the third round
Speaker 1: to get my first receiver given some of these names
Speaker 1: that got back to that turn ericson. You're now on
Speaker 1: the clock here. You already have three receivers, so I
Speaker 1: assume you're not going to fourth. What direction are you
Speaker 1: thinking right now?
Speaker 3: Coach is telling me that there is a quarterback drop
Speaker 3: off here, so that's their direction. I'm going here. Jared
Speaker 3: Goff to me, is the perfect quarterback for these two
Speaker 3: QB super flex formats because steady Eddy Lions have the
Speaker 3: easiest schedule in the NFL. They basically don't play outside
Speaker 3: until Week eighteen in bad weather, so he's gonna end
Speaker 3: up being in that top fifteen conversation. I get if
Speaker 3: you don't love him from a one quarterback league perpective,
Speaker 3: because doesn't have any value as a rusher, But when
Speaker 3: you're just looking at the pure pocket passers, I mean
Speaker 3: he's thrown thirty touchdowns over the past three seasons. He's
Speaker 3: the only quarterback to do that. So I look at
Speaker 3: how high Joe Burrow goes, and then I'm like, I
Speaker 3: get Jared Goff like round five super Flex, and like,
Speaker 3: when you look up, is anyone to be surprised if
Speaker 3: they have like similar passing yardage and touchdown numbers? I
Speaker 3: don't really think so. So I'll take Jard Goff here five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, particularly in super Flex, that feels
Speaker 1: pretty good. Bogman, you're just getting sniped right and left though.
Speaker 6: God yeah, I mean the pickens. It's the wide receivers too.
Speaker 6: Pickens on the front end and then burden on the
Speaker 6: back end. Here I went with t Mac Obviously a
Speaker 6: lot of volume there for him, but yeah, that was
Speaker 6: that was a brutal stretch there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I already praised him. Sugs to be you like, I
Speaker 1: already loved his first four. Then he gets Colston Lovelin
Speaker 1: with the late fifth. I like, that's this is my
Speaker 1: favorite team, doesn't even matter what else he does.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: But I will say bunting, you know, for having passed
Speaker 1: up on all those quarterbacks early fits Jordan Love and
Speaker 1: Malik Willis is pretty good with the position players he
Speaker 1: has elsewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 4: He he got those two guys inside the top nineteen.
Speaker 4: I feel like Willis was kind of the cutoff, and
Speaker 4: Willis is by no means a safe quarterback. There's gonna
Speaker 4: be a lot of volatility. Kind of smoothed it out
Speaker 4: with Love just the real solid passing type.
Speaker 1: So this more upside with Love this year too, honestly
Speaker 1: than sort of his reputation was suggest.
Speaker 4: The Packers the last two years thirty first and twenty
Speaker 4: second and pass right over expected. So you know, the
Speaker 4: defense probably isn't going to be as good without Micah
Speaker 4: Parsons for the first nearly half of the season, So
Speaker 4: there might be a few more Packers shootouts than they've
Speaker 4: had the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Jonte William goes to Graham.
Speaker 1: I was kind of eyeing him to break the zero
Speaker 1: RB stretch if he had fallen. Didn't expect him to. Baby,
Speaker 1: you take Roma Duns a pick. You know, I like
Speaker 1: quite a bit. We've talked a lot about him on shows,
Speaker 1: and I think he's undervalue this year. I think he's
Speaker 1: closer to what he was at the beginning of last
Speaker 1: season when he looked like a real breakout than he
Speaker 1: was in the second half when he was injured.
Speaker 2: I'm all in on Rome.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know how much I believe players when
Speaker 6: they talk about how great they feel. But I don't
Speaker 6: know that we would be discounting him if he hadn't
Speaker 6: have said this is a new normal for me earlier
Speaker 6: this year. Because today he said, this is the best
Speaker 6: I felt since being in the NFL or this foot injury. Right,
Speaker 6: So I think that's all great news for him. Kind
Speaker 6: of wanted Josh Jacobs again getting sniped here, which is
Speaker 6: starting to get on my nerves. But the pivot to
Speaker 6: Rome wasn't a hard one.
Speaker 1: Eric said, you go with the Elder States minute receiver.
Speaker 1: So you've got four now already, you've got your three
Speaker 1: starters and your flex spot filled.
Speaker 2: You take Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: Trying to win the flex as you try to do
Speaker 3: when you go zero RB. So Mike Evans, look, last
Speaker 3: man's standing potentially in the forty nine ers receiver room. Bran,
Speaker 3: you pear solid down for the count. So sad to
Speaker 3: see you don't want stribble hop up again for him.
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see what stribbling can do. But he's
Speaker 3: a rookie. I know as Mike Evans is going to
Speaker 3: catch a lot of touchdowns, and I have rock party,
Speaker 3: so I have that stack already built in. So ultimately,
Speaker 3: Mike Evans in my flex is my wide receiver four,
Speaker 3: and he can leave the NFL and touchdowns this year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I like this pick.
Speaker 1: A lot fits as I consider what my pick's going
Speaker 1: to be. Why don't you talk about Jameson Williams as
Speaker 1: your third receiver.
Speaker 4: He'd eleven hundred yard cards last year, averaging exactly six
Speaker 4: targets a game.
Speaker 5: And the splits were night.
Speaker 4: And day between the time John Morton was calling the
Speaker 4: players for the Lions and the time Dan Campbell ripped
Speaker 4: the play sheet out of John Morton's hands and took
Speaker 4: over for himself. Like Jamo's yardage per game basically doubled
Speaker 4: after that happened. And he had just been getting in
Speaker 4: the cardio with John Morton running a lot of go
Speaker 4: routes and everything. Dan Campbell started getting him more involved
Speaker 4: horizontally running crossing routes and stuff, and you get Jamo
Speaker 4: the ball in stride with a full head of steam,
Speaker 4: like defenders do just.
Speaker 5: Look like traffic owns.
Speaker 4: That guy can move, and I'm excited about him, Like,
Speaker 4: I think he's got a lot of upside, and you know,
Speaker 4: two straight thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 5: This guy's the real deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was planning on pairing Bucky Irving and Travis h
Speaker 1: Chan with my picks here to kind of get both
Speaker 1: starting running backs, two guys I think are going to
Speaker 1: be more than good enough with the rest of the
Speaker 1: strengths of my team. Chan goes one pick before me,
Speaker 1: which was a bummer. I get how bogged fields now,
Speaker 1: so I do still go with Bucky ervega player, I
Speaker 1: know that you like a lot fits. And then I
Speaker 1: decided to kind of go with the ericson approach of
Speaker 1: really strengthening that receiver position since we went with the
Speaker 1: early zero RB, I went with Dj Moore, who you know,
Speaker 1: back with Joe Brady as a play caller, paired with
Speaker 1: obviously the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I took one oh one. I think he's still a
Speaker 2: good player.
Speaker 1: He's still young enough that I'm not like writing him
Speaker 1: off at all, just given that it didn't totally end
Speaker 1: up being a fit with Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1: So as my wide receiver four, I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: DJ Moore. We do get another tight end off the
Speaker 1: board here. Tyler Warren goes early in round seven, Carnel Tait,
Speaker 1: who I was debating between DJ Moore and him as
Speaker 1: my wide receiver. He goes seven oh four David Montgomery,
Speaker 1: and then Fitz takes this guy, Traveon Henderson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look what happened in the three games that Ramondra
Speaker 4: Stevenson missed last year. Travion Henderson averaged about one hundred
Speaker 4: and ten yards from scrimmage per game, scored five touchdowns
Speaker 4: in those three games. And I know that people are
Speaker 4: kind of frightened by what they saw in the playoffs
Speaker 4: where Ramondre basically was the man in the backfield. I
Speaker 4: don't think that's going to last. I just I want
Speaker 4: to play to the upside of Henderson because I think
Speaker 4: there's pretty immense upside. This dude had four runs of
Speaker 4: fifty plus yards last year, and I think over Romandre's
Speaker 4: entire career five years, maybe he had three runs of
Speaker 4: forty or more yards and Henderson out did that in
Speaker 4: one year. Like, we know where the upside is in
Speaker 4: this backfield. I kind of want to chase it.
Speaker 1: Ericson you take Jordan Tyson just three picks after Carnell Tate,
Speaker 1: would you have considered Tyson overtit or do you have
Speaker 1: that as the correct order and he was just next
Speaker 1: on the board for you, It's.
Speaker 3: A correct order for me. I think that Tate just
Speaker 3: has the clearer path to being the number one guy
Speaker 3: out of the gates, even though I do think Wanda
Speaker 3: Robinson is kind of underrated, especially with his relationship with
Speaker 3: Brian Dable. I think that he's going to see some
Speaker 3: volume in this offense. But I think Tyson is just
Speaker 3: oozing with upside attached to Tyler Schuck during his second
Speaker 3: season under Kellen Moore. And I'm in a position where
Speaker 3: I'm so lowed at wide receiver. I don't need Jordan
Speaker 3: Tyson to hit out of the gates like he can
Speaker 3: be a bench player for me that and maybe he
Speaker 3: is that second half league winner that I need when
Speaker 3: Mike Evans inevitably pauls his hamstring, which I know is
Speaker 3: going to happen at some point during the season. So
Speaker 3: I got Mike Evans out of the gates and then
Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson to help him get me home at the
Speaker 3: end of the year.
Speaker 1: Bo I've been no receivers for you until the back
Speaker 1: half of round five, But now you've gone four in
Speaker 1: a row. Terry McLaurin, Roma Dunza, Marvin Harrison Junior, and
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin. How are you feeling about that receiver room
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 6: These guys keep taking my running backs. I've wanted running
Speaker 6: backs three rounds in a row. I wanted Jacobs, I
Speaker 6: wanted Trevion I thought that was a pipe dream, but
Speaker 6: I was backing him up with Judkins, and then Messergram
Speaker 6: took Judkins, and I said, I'll just take Jendarium Price
Speaker 6: on the turn because all of these animals have running
Speaker 6: backs behind me here. Nope, Tuton and Jenearium Price go.
Speaker 6: So I pivoted to Chris Godwin. So I'm stacking up
Speaker 6: on this wide receiver corps here, which is what I
Speaker 6: needed after going early tight end and spending two of
Speaker 6: my top four picks on quarterbacks and having CMC wedged
Speaker 6: in there. So I like the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: I got a nice mix of McLaurin, O'doonzay, Harrison, and Godwin.
Speaker 6: Potentially four number twos is fine here, but I am
Speaker 6: I am frustrated with the running back situation.
Speaker 1: Ericson, I wasn't gonna take him, obviously, because I have hours.
Speaker 1: I think Tucker Kraft is one of the best picks
Speaker 1: of the draft so far in the eighth round if
Speaker 1: he's back healthy. I like just could not be more
Speaker 1: all in on that he was a Tier one tight
Speaker 1: end before getting hurt last year. It looked like a
Speaker 1: true breakout, like one of the elite guys. Just love
Speaker 1: him as a player, love him as a fantasy guy.
Speaker 1: So I think eighth round is really nice for him.
Speaker 1: Fits you take a tight end right after a Harold
Speaker 1: Fan and would you have taken Kraft or did you?
Speaker 2: Were you eyeing Fannin all along?
Speaker 4: Oh, I was absolutely going to take Kraft, and knew
Speaker 4: Erickson was going to snipe me there.
Speaker 5: Even though he doesn't have a running back.
Speaker 4: There was a sliver of halpe that Ericson might feel
Speaker 4: compelled to finally get his running back. No, so I
Speaker 4: do think there's sort of a drop off between Kraft
Speaker 4: and Fan, And I do like Fannin wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 4: if he left the Browns and targets and catches this year.
Speaker 5: Really talented player.
Speaker 4: But you know, I do sort of hate that I
Speaker 4: went down to the next tier with the very next pick.
Speaker 5: I don't really like doing.
Speaker 1: That on the clock here, I'm gonna take Stevenson just
Speaker 1: like I know we all want Trevan Henderson to get
Speaker 1: all the workload, but I think there's a chance where
Speaker 1: Stevenson is just still the RB one in what is
Speaker 1: an ascending offense I expect to be, and I don't
Speaker 1: love a lot of the names after him, so I
Speaker 1: wanted to get a second running back here. I still
Speaker 1: do need a second quarterback. I sort of waited that
Speaker 1: there hasn't been one taken for a few rounds. I
Speaker 1: think I will take CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud. I'm a believer in the player.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that the offensive line is better this year,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to overreact to like everybody saw
Speaker 1: how bad he was in that playoff game. I don't
Speaker 1: want to overreact to that. I still think as a
Speaker 1: QB two paired with the best quarterback you can have,
Speaker 1: I'm very willing to have CJ. Stroud as my quarterback too,
Speaker 1: And even if there is a bit of a gap
Speaker 1: between him and the guys who went ahead of him,
Speaker 1: which makes sense because two full rounds went with nobody
Speaker 1: taking a quarterback, so that gap is already built into
Speaker 1: the price, I feel like, and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: risk not getting another quarterback to fall back to me.
Speaker 2: So that's the thought for mine. Fits.
Speaker 1: You are the next player up here, just a couple
Speaker 1: of picks away. None of us are going to be
Speaker 1: on the clock before you. Who are you eyeing.
Speaker 4: Mkai Lemon to be my fourth wide receiver? I think
Speaker 4: there's a reasonable chance that he is the best wide
Speaker 4: receiver in this class, and I think the Eagles offense
Speaker 4: is going to be a lot better now that Kevin
Speaker 4: Patuloh is not calling the plays and it's going to
Speaker 4: be Sean mannon. Luckily, Rashan White went to awesome dev
Speaker 4: right in front of me. I'm going to take Lemon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lemon, you know, pretty close to Tate and Tyson
Speaker 1: during the NFL draft season in the spring, and then
Speaker 1: now he goes two rounds later. That feels a good
Speaker 1: value just based on the player Lemon compared to Tate
Speaker 1: and Tyson.
Speaker 4: It's the smartest GM in the league traded up to
Speaker 4: get him. And I know everyone's going to remember that
Speaker 4: Howie Roseman drafted Oh. I can't even remember who Jalen Rager.
Speaker 4: I had a justin Jefferson. But look, I mean how
Speaker 4: how he has his reputation for a reason. He's really
Speaker 4: good at what he does, and even though that was
Speaker 4: a pretty colossal mistake, probably the biggest misstep of his career. Look,
Speaker 4: I think he knows what he was doing with Makayle Lemon,
Speaker 4: and you know, I wouldn't be surprised at all if
Speaker 4: his numbers were not that far behind DeVante Smith This year.
Speaker 1: One of my good friends and I we were hosting
Speaker 1: a Ravens podcast for NBC Sports at the time of
Speaker 1: that draft, and he was trying to convince me that
Speaker 1: Jalen Rager was going to be the best receiver in
Speaker 1: that draft. So not as public as what happened to Howie,
Speaker 1: but I remind him of that every now and again.
Speaker 1: Really nice pick by Grim Jonathan Brooks. I was planning
Speaker 1: on taking him if he got back to me, wasn't
Speaker 1: sure if he would or not. That's a really nice one.
Speaker 1: I like Grim's team a lot. Eric Soon you double
Speaker 1: up at tight end. I was surprised to see kincaid
Speaker 1: good after you got Kraft. What was the thought process there?
Speaker 3: I'm going to be on the phone with Spectrum Internet
Speaker 3: very very soon because I did not want to pick
Speaker 3: Dalton can't Kate. I wanted to pick Jonathan Brooks and
Speaker 3: it was not working for me. So uh yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a shout out to my laggy internet connection apparently. So
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I want him Brooks, and I deservedly will
Speaker 3: be knocked for this pick because I want to make inkke.
Speaker 1: This is why you set your queue. This is why
Speaker 1: you create a cheat sheet with the cheat sheet creator,
Speaker 1: a Fantasy pros and draft all that so the ranking
Speaker 1: go set that way in your draft room to make
Speaker 1: sure your lousy internet cannot get in the way of
Speaker 1: a good draft. Thankfully, just to mock for Ericson. Otherwise
Speaker 1: he would have gotten he would have been a lot
Speaker 1: more upset to not get his guy Brooks. Bog mean,
Speaker 1: you double up at running backs with your next two picks,
Speaker 1: Rico Daddle and Aaron Jones.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate this draft. I've gotten sniped too many times.
Speaker 6: I don't like what I've done here. Going back, I'm
Speaker 6: probably not taking McBride and taking a running back and
Speaker 6: taking a tight end later specifically with Craft and Fan
Speaker 6: and falling so far, so frustrated here, but doing the
Speaker 6: best I can. You know, Rico still probably in line
Speaker 6: for fifty to fifty split for Warren, I would assume
Speaker 6: that he's the goal line back Aaron Jones while he's healthy.
Speaker 6: I'll probably back him up with claybarn or Mason at
Speaker 6: the end here. But yeah, pretty frustrated with how this
Speaker 6: has turned out to be honest.
Speaker 1: If it makes you feel any better, Bogman, I also
Speaker 1: don't like your draft, so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, Yeah, it makes me feel way better. I
Speaker 6: appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake, Korman, Kamanungui, two other guys along with Brooks
Speaker 1: that I was like kind of eyeing to hopefully get
Speaker 1: back to me. It's hard picking on the end because
Speaker 1: there's so many picks between and you got to cut
Speaker 1: a wait for them.
Speaker 2: To get back, you know.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts go off the board and Travis Kelcey in succession.
Speaker 1: Here lots of tight ends going off the board last
Speaker 1: couple of rounds, then Kenny Gainwell bringing me to the pick.
Speaker 1: Prior to the last few days of injury information, I
Speaker 1: would have been strongly eyeing Ricky Piersall obviously not the
Speaker 1: case anymore. Let's see, I don't worry, I'm gonna aut'll
Speaker 1: pick him. So all right, I'm gonna take Addison here.
Speaker 1: Just a guy that's constantly catching touchdowns I think is
Speaker 1: a good player, even though there's some question at quarterback,
Speaker 1: and he's a number two receiver in that offense. Just
Speaker 1: a guy that I feel like is kind of perennially
Speaker 1: perennially excuse me, undervalued. I would like to take another
Speaker 1: running back at some point here. All the ones I
Speaker 1: wanted have gone, though, so that is starting to get
Speaker 1: trickier and trickier. I've been a Chris Rodriguez guy so
Speaker 1: far early in draft season, just pairing with you know,
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen who coached him in Kyle. I think there's
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get some touchdowns there. I'm not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent sold on Bashall Tuton, who went four rounds earlier,
Speaker 1: so I'll take the swing on Rodriguez as my RB
Speaker 1: three here. Don't love it, but again, all the running
Speaker 1: backs that I wanted wint in that you know, between
Speaker 1: my picks, there was one of the four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
Speaker 1: eleven running backs that went and really kind of board
Speaker 1: didn't shake out the way I wanted. Some kind of
Speaker 1: stuck settling for a guy like Rodriguez. Maybe he scores
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns and runs hot in the red
Speaker 1: zone makes me feel better about it. Last couple of
Speaker 1: picks made by you guys. Obviously we talked about Bogman.
Speaker 1: Ericson took RJ.
Speaker 2: Harvey.
Speaker 1: Fits you take Sam Darnold as your QB three. Did
Speaker 1: you go into this kind of expecting to take a
Speaker 1: QB three and be a little more aggressive about getting
Speaker 1: that back up at the position?
Speaker 4: Not necessarily, but when Jackson Dart as one of your quarterbacks,
Speaker 4: I think you are incentive ized to get a third
Speaker 4: quarterback because you've realized Jackson Dart is probably going to
Speaker 4: miss a game or two due to his own failure
Speaker 4: to make business decisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ericson, you take R. J. Harvey with your last pick,
Speaker 1: and then you're on the clock here away. What was
Speaker 1: the thought process there? Did did the internet cut out?
Speaker 1: Or was that the running back you wanted for your
Speaker 1: first RB?
Speaker 3: If it works out of my favorite, it's going to
Speaker 3: be like drafted the third string running back on the
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos as my RB one speaking tongue in chic look,
Speaker 3: it's full PPR. RJ. Harvey was a cash machine last
Speaker 3: year as a rookie, which is not something that you
Speaker 3: often see from running backs first in the NFL. So
Speaker 3: I think that that role is going to be somewhat
Speaker 3: stable year over year. So even if JK. Dobbins is
Speaker 3: the early down usage running back and Joana Coleman takes
Speaker 3: on that role once JK. Dobbins gets injured inevitably, I
Speaker 3: still think Harvey's going to have a role and they
Speaker 3: like using them on the red zone, like using around
Speaker 3: the goal line. So twelve touchdowns last year, Yeah, probably
Speaker 3: not repeatable, but hey at least suggests that they're open
Speaker 3: to continue to use him in the red zone as
Speaker 3: both a rusher and receiver. So it's a good offense,
Speaker 3: good offensive line, it's gonna score a lot of points.
Speaker 3: So I think Harvey. Look, I understand the risk with him,
Speaker 3: but I mean he's so cheap now where I think
Speaker 3: if you just look at his rookie year and just
Speaker 3: kind of zoom out, you're like this guy I caught
Speaker 3: like fifty passes, score twelve touchdowns at over eight er
Speaker 3: yards from scrimmage, and he's a second year running back
Speaker 3: that goes in the tenth round like double digit rounds.
Speaker 3: Like that's about I think it's worth making.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just curious because you have largely been the RJ.
Speaker 1: Harvey fader on the shows What did you think about
Speaker 1: the value for Ericson on that one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at that point of the draft, I
Speaker 4: think it's it's fine, and he's probably gonna have some
Speaker 4: sort of role, and we know that multiple running backs
Speaker 4: usually have fantasy viability in Sean Payton's offenses, So I'm
Speaker 4: okay with it. I thought he was disappointing last year
Speaker 4: after he took over for Dobbins as the lead guy,
Speaker 4: and that's probably going to discount him from ever being
Speaker 4: considered the lead guy again in this offense. But I
Speaker 4: think he's going to have a non insignificant role in
Speaker 4: the Denver offense.
Speaker 1: Would you rather Harvey in the tenth or Joanah Coleman
Speaker 1: in the eleventh which is where he went to Bogman?
Speaker 5: Both fair priced.
Speaker 6: Way of saying that.
Speaker 4: No, Honestly, I mean I do have Harvey ranked ahead
Speaker 4: of Coleman, and those draft slots kind of aligned with
Speaker 4: what my rankings look like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, block me, Ego, Jonah Coleman, and then Casey Conceptsion.
Speaker 2: So a couple of rookies here. Does that tend to
Speaker 2: happen for you?
Speaker 1: Like this point in the draft, you start looking at
Speaker 1: the guys that are rookies and taking those upside swings.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean from my fifth wide receiver, I was
Speaker 6: between Conceptcion and Higgins, right, I think both offer upside.
Speaker 6: Maybe CONCEPTI on a little more because he looking at
Speaker 6: a potential number one target role. So that's why I
Speaker 6: went with Conceptsion and then Jonah Coleman, just to add
Speaker 6: to the stack of RB Two's right, Like, I'm good
Speaker 6: with CMC as my RB one, but now Rico, Aaron Jones,
Speaker 6: Jonah Coleman. I just need one of these guys to
Speaker 6: work out. So that's kind of the plan there.
Speaker 1: Grim makes another great pick. I think Isaiah likely in
Speaker 1: round twelve. I like that quite a bit. He and
Speaker 1: Suggs are fighting for my favorite draft so far in
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 3: Well, well you saw Suggs took Ricky Parasol.
Speaker 1: Right, I did see that, Yes, which you know, I
Speaker 1: guess if you can convince yourself upside cases him being
Speaker 1: on the field there.
Speaker 5: We don't know he's going to be like true, which
Speaker 5: he just.
Speaker 1: Feels negative right now. You don't know anything, Eric, Can
Speaker 1: you take Keaton Mitchell obviously just like a beautiful fit
Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel in the speed that he wants to
Speaker 1: have there behind Omaron Hampton and then Fitz I was
Speaker 1: I was eyeing Jacoby Myers. Just says, Hey, we don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen with this receiving room, so
Speaker 1: I'll take the cheapest guy. You take him a few
Speaker 1: picks before he can get to me. Has that been
Speaker 1: your approach? Fits like, just take the guy of the Jags,
Speaker 1: who's going latest? Or do you particularly like Jacoby Myers?
Speaker 4: I especially like Parker Washington, and he's the guy come
Speaker 4: away with most off and I'm kind of not at
Speaker 4: all interested in Brian Thomas Junior. I really haven't gotten
Speaker 4: Myers in too many other best Balls mocks, regular drafts,
Speaker 4: but I just thought he was a value at this point.
Speaker 1: I didn't really need another tight end, obviously having Brock Bowers.
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is just my favorite player on the board.
Speaker 1: I think the last pick of the twelfth round is
Speaker 1: too late for him, given that there's uncertainty a with
Speaker 1: the other tight end in that room in Baltimore be
Speaker 1: with the receivers behind Za Flowers. It's a new offense,
Speaker 1: an offense that has historically like to use tight ends
Speaker 1: under Ben Johnson, and that connection with Lebar is as
Speaker 1: strong as it's ever been, So I think Andrews another
Speaker 1: year removed from the injury he was going into last
Speaker 1: year with I like Andrews just as a pure value,
Speaker 1: and then I take Higgins as the upside, you know,
Speaker 1: especially if anything ever happens to Nico. I think Higgins
Speaker 1: could be really good in that offense. Any pairs of CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 1: who's my QB two, Juwan Johnson, Khalil Shakir, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: and then Jalen Coker, who I also considered instead of Higgins,
Speaker 1: go off the board here while Fitz makes his pick.
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Speaker 1: and Tennessee. All right, fit you go with zech charbonnet
Speaker 1: player that I did look at. I just you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I know injuries are going to find my team.
Speaker 1: I don't want to invite them on purpose during draft season.
Speaker 1: But he's obviously a good player, and this is the
Speaker 1: middle of the thirteenth round.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably not buying the reports that he could
Speaker 4: be ready for Week one. Ridiculous dubious proposition there, because
Speaker 4: that would be what six months after the ACL tear.
Speaker 4: But he's going to be back at some point, and
Speaker 4: let's just have not totally one hundred percent sold on
Speaker 4: the prospect profile for Jenderian price translating into like instant
Speaker 4: NFL success. So I do think once sharbon Ay comes back,
Speaker 4: has a couple of weeks to knock off the rust,
Speaker 4: he's going to have a meaningful role in the Seattle backfield.
Speaker 1: Eric said, you go, Geno Smith, that's your QB three.
Speaker 1: It looks like just expecting a bounce back now that
Speaker 1: he's out of Vegas.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that he can have a much better
Speaker 3: season statistically. He's not coming off any type of major injury,
Speaker 3: which I think Gino Smiths is kind of catching some
Speaker 3: of the shade thrown at guys like Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 3: older players playing on new teams when those guys are
Speaker 3: coming off significant Achilles injuries. I think Geno Smith can
Speaker 3: still sling it. So I think with the weapons they
Speaker 3: have in New York off the offensive line, I think
Speaker 3: he's underrated. Garrett Wilson, you have the two first round
Speaker 3: picks that they drafted between Omar Cooper, Kenan Sadik ad
Speaker 3: Mitchell entering year three. I think the Jets office can
Speaker 3: be average, and I think Geno Smith is very, very
Speaker 3: underrated here in the thirteenth round. Again, he's going to
Speaker 3: be a guy that I may be starting at some
Speaker 3: point if I lose one of my quarterbacks, and especially
Speaker 3: on bye week. So I like Geno Smith here the
Speaker 3: value you're getting on him.
Speaker 1: Boggin, you've made two picks your Romeo Dobbs and Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 1: Pachecko one just feels like totally forgotten man, like I
Speaker 1: haven't heard his name said on a single show I
Speaker 1: think all summer, but obviously somebody that we've been excited
Speaker 1: about in the past. And then Dobbs, I think it
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense as that wide receiver too
Speaker 1: in New England.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Dobbs is just too good a value
Speaker 6: at this point. And then I'm looking at running backs
Speaker 6: and it is Barren, I what's kind of wanting Alvin
Speaker 6: Kamara a little bit, and he did go one pick
Speaker 6: in front of me. That's not a snipe, that's just
Speaker 6: a whatever. So Pa Checko maybe with the goal line chance,
Speaker 6: and then if anything happens to Gibbs, I have his handcuffs,
Speaker 6: so not an exciting pick. But we are in the
Speaker 6: fourteenth round.
Speaker 1: Did any of you guys consider Dejan Stribbling? He went
Speaker 1: right in between where you guys are picking to Grim
Speaker 1: just with the pure Saul news. Does that feel like
Speaker 1: a value in the thirteenth round?
Speaker 3: Ericson, Yeah, I think that's appropriate to where he should
Speaker 3: be going. I know that in conversations in the analyst
Speaker 3: slack channel, we were talking about kind of adjusting our rankings,
Speaker 3: and I don't I think it's super outlandish to put
Speaker 3: Stribbling in a similar range of where Pearsaw was going.
Speaker 3: If you do believe that this is really hey, this
Speaker 3: is a lost season for Ricky Pearsall. We'll see eventually
Speaker 3: as we get more information. But the fact that he
Speaker 3: went two rounds after Ricky Piersaw me right now, who
Speaker 3: would you rather have? Like, it's really hard to have
Speaker 3: confidence in drafting Pearsaw in any round versus a guy
Speaker 3: like Stribling. So I think any two rounds after Ricky
Speaker 3: Pearsall that is a really good value. I think I
Speaker 3: think I would prefer dobbs personally. I know Dobbson once
Speaker 3: bought after, but I don't think it's like crazy or anything,
Speaker 3: especially going around Shihi Jennings Denzel Boston. I mean Boston's
Speaker 3: also Ricky too. Boston was drafted after just Shaun Stribbling,
Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't agree with the talent. I
Speaker 3: think that Boston is the superior talented player. But in
Speaker 3: terms of situation opportunity, yeah, it's not hard to like
Speaker 3: stribbling in this fit with this forty nine Ers offense.
Speaker 5: Can I can?
Speaker 4: I say it much rather if Dobbs or Boston than stribbling.
Speaker 4: Stribling stribbling did not get us out like a real
Speaker 4: standout target share yardage share for Ole Miss last year.
Speaker 4: I just generally, if you don't have a big share
Speaker 4: of the targets and catches and receiving yardage for your
Speaker 4: college team doesn't bode well for your NFL success. I
Speaker 4: still think that was a giant reach by the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers, and just because of the pear Saw injury.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know debro like jumped stribbling ahead of Pearsaw.
Speaker 4: Unless I know that Pearsow is going to miss like
Speaker 4: at least half the season, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: I go with a couple of receivers here at the
Speaker 1: turn Trey Harris, just like I said, I want to
Speaker 1: be invested in this Chargers offense as much as I
Speaker 1: can really late take the upside swing there. And then
Speaker 1: Adam I Mitchell is somebody that Erickson you just wrote
Speaker 1: about pretty recently on fantasypros dot com with one of
Speaker 1: your breakout articles on wide receiver potential wide receiver ones
Speaker 1: for the first time here, can you tell me why
Speaker 1: I made a good pick with ad Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Well, the year three breakout pool is becoming narrow and
Speaker 3: narrow by the day because it might not be Bricky
Speaker 3: pearsall that kind of hits that breakout threshold. So let
Speaker 3: me just make my pick here before I dive into
Speaker 3: the ad Mitchell analysis so that I can avoid another.
Speaker 2: Harry Dalton Kincaid because.
Speaker 3: I don't need know. Although Dalton and Kid does kind
Speaker 3: of make sense in my roster given that, no, the
Speaker 3: Tucker Craft is not like a one hundred percent lock
Speaker 3: to play in week one. I think that the beats
Speaker 3: in the coaching staff has said that we're hopefully he
Speaker 3: plays in Week one, So I think it does make
Speaker 3: a lot of sense if you do draft Tucker Craft
Speaker 3: that you do have a backup option. Of course, I
Speaker 3: draft the other really injury prone tight end, Dalton Kinkaid,
Speaker 3: who notoriously plays every year with out a PCL or
Speaker 3: with a sprained PCL. But with Mitchell, I think that
Speaker 3: we all know he's really talented. Right if you look
Speaker 3: at any separation metric, he is at the top top ten,
Speaker 3: whether you're looking at Fantasy points data, next gen stats,
Speaker 3: ad Mitchell is someone that creates elite separation. You guys,
Speaker 3: remember that Thursday night football game against the Patriots, first
Speaker 3: game he played with the Jets. He was cooking Christian Gonzales,
Speaker 3: one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. The issue
Speaker 3: was Mitchell just couldn't catch the ball. He also had
Speaker 3: three drops in that game. Again, it's he's an incomplete player.
Speaker 3: But in an offense where there's a clear ish path
Speaker 3: to targets. Look, if he's got his head screwed on correctly,
Speaker 3: we know the talent is there and he should see volume.
Speaker 3: If anything, he might just run so many routes that
Speaker 3: he stumbles into some of this high end production because
Speaker 3: of if you look at some of these other wide
Speaker 3: receiver ones Jerry Judy with Jamis Winston. He was a
Speaker 3: wide receiver one. Michael Wilson last year he was wide
Speaker 3: receiver one. Because they were just out on the field,
Speaker 3: they ran a ton of routes. I could see a
Speaker 3: scenario where that happens for Mitchell, and given his talent profile,
Speaker 3: I do think that this is a he set up
Speaker 3: for career.
Speaker 1: Ericson, you're back on the clock while you're making that
Speaker 1: pick fits our guy. Terrence Ferguson went a couple of
Speaker 1: spots ahead of you. Did you consider pairing him with
Speaker 1: Fannin in your tight end room? I mean, I like
Speaker 1: that value, even if it wasn't a fit for your roster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was gonna be my last pick. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: didn't even notice he got picked. Of searching ron Foreman
Speaker 4: couldn't find him, and I was so mesmerized by Bogman's
Speaker 4: Carson backpick.
Speaker 5: That was it.
Speaker 6: I just super flex y.
Speaker 4: I do you think, I know, you know he's going
Speaker 4: to make starts. I think he probably makes at least
Speaker 4: sixth sense.
Speaker 1: I think it's smart for Bodman to have a third
Speaker 1: quarterback given the age of Stafford and the injury history
Speaker 1: of Daniels.
Speaker 6: Yes, so exactly. I was busy trying to fill in
Speaker 6: this RB two spot too long, and I kind of
Speaker 6: wanted Chadure and Shador went two rounds or the round
Speaker 6: before Carson Beck. But I think Carson back for the
Speaker 6: second half of the season would be a nice fit.
Speaker 6: And I I have try McBride's a little stack if
Speaker 6: I do have to start Carson Beck.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't going to take Nick Singleton with my
Speaker 2: last pick.
Speaker 1: Ericson beat me to it's just taking a swing as
Speaker 1: with the kind of you know, a weaker RB approach here, Bob,
Speaker 1: you take him on. Clayborne another running back that I
Speaker 1: was considering, but I didn't expect him to get back
Speaker 1: to me, given that you had already mentioned him earlier.
Speaker 1: Ericson what's the upside for Singleton this year? Do you
Speaker 1: think he can overtake Pollard or does he need an
Speaker 1: injury to be effective?
Speaker 3: In your one, I think there's a chance that they
Speaker 3: give him an extended look. I think that Singleton, because
Speaker 3: he was not able to test at the combine, I
Speaker 3: think that really hurt his draft capital, right. I think
Speaker 3: that if he had tested off the charts, done a
Speaker 3: Mike Washington esque type of combine, that maybe he would
Speaker 3: have gone much higher than the fifth round or sixth
Speaker 3: round wherever he ended up going. So I do think
Speaker 3: that is a weaker backfield. I think that Tony Pollard
Speaker 3: is I think he's on his last legs. I know
Speaker 3: that he's had ripped off a couple of thousand yard seasons,
Speaker 3: but the touches are starting to really accumulate for him
Speaker 3: and the Titans. Are they going to be contenders this year?
Speaker 3: I do think that they're kind of a sneaky team,
Speaker 3: especially when you look at the betting odds for them
Speaker 3: to go from worse to first in the division. But
Speaker 3: I don't think that Singleton is totally out for the
Speaker 3: count in a backfield where both guys are going to
Speaker 3: be free agents at the end of the season, so
Speaker 3: I think it doesn't make sense for them to at
Speaker 3: least give Singleton extensive look based on what his athleticism
Speaker 3: is when he's fully healthy and ready to go.
Speaker 2: Let's look at some draft analysis.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do after doing any
Speaker 1: mock draft or real draft is to see what Fantasy
Speaker 1: pros thinks is going to happen. Projected standings have met
Speaker 1: In fourth I got to be plus as my grade
Speaker 1: Bogman fifth, sixth, so fourth, fifth and sixth for US,
Speaker 1: then Ericson at eight.
Speaker 2: Not a ton of huge gaps.
Speaker 1: There's not like a big outlier number one team or
Speaker 1: bottom team really, so it seems to be sort of
Speaker 1: a somewhat even fair, you know, mock draft here looking
Speaker 1: at some of the folks who like my draft and.
Speaker 6: Would have been first if it wouldn't wasn't for Kincaid there.
Speaker 6: I bet that Kinkaid pick. I bet that what if
Speaker 6: is probably Kinkaid hu Hui Erickson.
Speaker 1: I don't have any of you guys on my thumbs
Speaker 1: up or thumbs down from the from the expert opinion
Speaker 1: gear thumbs down. Yeah, I'm look at Dalton dell Don
Speaker 1: in front of the show gave a thumbs down, Hayden
Speaker 1: Winks with Yahoo gives a thumbs up. Not not any
Speaker 1: of you guys on there. And then looking at steals
Speaker 1: and reaches, it does have CJ. Stroud as a steal
Speaker 1: for me again just given that it's super flex. Of course,
Speaker 1: Jaydan Higgins as a value pick for me. It does
Speaker 1: say brock Bowers is a reach. That's one that I knew.
Speaker 1: It said that that on the rankings at the time.
Speaker 1: I just don't agree. I'm just I'm just thrilled to
Speaker 1: get a guy who I think could break fantasy and
Speaker 1: break the position in scoring this year at the last
Speaker 1: pick of the second round. So that's when that I
Speaker 1: think is going to come up a lot in my
Speaker 1: what if you know the pick analysis. Yeah, I should
Speaker 1: have taken Jonathan Taylor there according to this or Drake
Speaker 1: London would have been the preferred picks according to the system.
Speaker 1: But yeah, my strengths obviously Alan Bowers and then my
Speaker 1: wide receiver kind of trio, even though I don't have
Speaker 1: a great number one is how it looks like for me?
Speaker 1: What sort of analysis is it showing you fits?
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm right in the middle.
Speaker 4: And I found it interesting that the four of us
Speaker 4: plus Bunting were all separated by like less than thirty
Speaker 4: nine points. I mean, I'm one point behind Bogman. You
Speaker 4: can get a You couldn't slip a credit card in
Speaker 4: between me and Bogman with our scores. That's interesting that
Speaker 4: we're all just kind of solid in the middle here.
Speaker 4: Let's see Joshua Kimmel gave me An a plus ninety
Speaker 4: nine out of one hundred at a boy, Josh, thank you,
Speaker 4: and my my buddy Jacob Gibbs of CBS liked my draft.
Speaker 4: Some guys who didn't. Rudy Gamble, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 4: talk to him about that. Jorge Edwards. I just saw
Speaker 4: him at the Fantasy Football Expo. What's up, hoorge?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I like my draft, and generally I think it didn't
Speaker 4: like my selection of Kyler Murray and had several other
Speaker 4: quarterbacks ranked ahead of Kyler. Maybe that hurt me a
Speaker 4: little bit, but look, I already had justin Jefferson. I
Speaker 4: get a little bit of a stack there, and I
Speaker 4: did want to running quarterbacks and got him with Dart
Speaker 4: and Kyler Murray Rickson.
Speaker 3: So for me, Andrew Erkson gave me a ninety four
Speaker 3: out of one hundred, so that's all about. That wasn't
Speaker 3: actually the highest grade though, because again we have one
Speaker 3: auto pick and it's not the true Andrew X that's
Speaker 3: drafting this team. So someone actually liked my team more.
Speaker 3: Lou Brunson from Oftens Fantasy Football gave me ninety eight
Speaker 3: out one hundred. Pete Nova f f face Off gave
Speaker 3: me ninety seven out of one hundred, but a fellow
Speaker 3: Andrew Andrew Leeduk from that sports podcast network gave me
Speaker 3: a sixty eight out of one hundred. I thought all
Speaker 3: Andrews were united when it comes to fantasy football. Apparently
Speaker 3: that's not true. So those are my expert opinions. When
Speaker 3: it comes to the pick analysis, I think that's interesting.
Speaker 3: And the kin Kid pick is obviously the one I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about a lot because it was auto picked, but
Speaker 3: it's actually the why I don't like the most, and
Speaker 3: the pick analysis tool agrees it's actually Rock Party. I
Speaker 3: feel like it was a reach, and looking back, just
Speaker 3: kind of things how shaken out right, the fact that
Speaker 3: you got c J. Stroud in round nine and I
Speaker 3: got Brock Purty in round two, Like I get c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud as struggled the last couple of years, and I
Speaker 3: get Brock Purty is in a very very quarterback friendly system.
Speaker 3: But that just seems way too a big a gap
Speaker 3: when you look at just like raw projections, I bet
Speaker 3: there's nowhere near it's going to be that far away.
Speaker 3: So Rock Purty I definitely pushed, probably as a I
Speaker 3: probably reached there trying to draft a quarterback and in
Speaker 3: super flex, trying to address that position. It feels probably
Speaker 3: different if I got Trevor Lawrence, but he went a
Speaker 3: couple picks ahead of me. So I think I reached
Speaker 3: there on Purty. And it's even telling me in the
Speaker 3: pick analysis tool is if I had gone instead Ceede Lamb,
Speaker 3: I could have drafted c. J. Stroud in the seventh
Speaker 3: round and I would have gotten forty more points instead
Speaker 3: of drafting Jordan Tyson. So and I agree with that.
Speaker 3: So I think I reached on Perty there. I think
Speaker 3: it was just gone, should have just gone with the
Speaker 3: best scaled position players available, similar to I believe that's
Speaker 3: what Fits. Yeah, that's what Fits did, and then he
Speaker 3: went two quarterbacks in rounds three and four. I think
Speaker 3: that I probably would have liked my team a lot
Speaker 3: more even if I had gone with you know, Ceed
Speaker 3: Lamb and then b Nix versus Rock Perty and then
Speaker 3: Rashie Rice. So that's one thing that I will look at.
Speaker 3: And that's why doing this draft analyzer after your draft
Speaker 3: is so important to learn from your mistakes and try
Speaker 3: to remember, Okay, if you feel like they're forcing a
Speaker 3: quarterback and superflex, you probably are and don't do that.
Speaker 5: Plus with the party thing you've got this electromagnetic field
Speaker 5: around the station, just passcatchers.
Speaker 3: Guys are already dropping like flies. And look there's already
Speaker 3: three guys you know, Dicky Piersall, Jordan James already has
Speaker 3: a fractured red need your guardian a little bit of palmis.
Speaker 3: It's brutal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that pick analysis tool is really one of the
Speaker 1: fun ones. Like I mentioned for me, it was showing
Speaker 1: like that I should have taken Bowers. It's also saying
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't have taken a J. Brown, I should
Speaker 1: have gone Jonathan Taylor instead, which I did consider. And
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how the system is saying how
Speaker 1: it would have improved my projected standings and power rankings.
Speaker 1: And given that I was able to get Lad and
Speaker 1: Ttera McMillan on the way back, I kind of do
Speaker 1: wish I'd take a Jonathan Taylor and had sort of
Speaker 1: that anchor ARB instead of more of a closer to
Speaker 1: zero RB approach for me. Bogwin, what's the analysis showing
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would have been eighty nine points higher,
Speaker 6: so first place by a lot if I had taken
Speaker 6: Sam Darnold in the tenth instead of another RB and
Speaker 6: I was just fighting for those rbs though, so I
Speaker 6: didn't like what I had, so I was fighting there.
Speaker 6: But that that's the biggest difference for me. That would
Speaker 6: have put me in first place by a lot. I
Speaker 6: got the stack of Jane Daniels and Terry McLaurin. We
Speaker 6: like that. I got the checko as a sleeper. Coleman
Speaker 6: is a sleeper as well, but I did reach on
Speaker 6: Coleman about three rounds earlier. But again, I'm just looking
Speaker 6: to get some of those running backs. Ninety two was
Speaker 6: the highest grade I got from my guy Matt donne
Speaker 6: Lee from Dynasty Vipers. I did a couple of shows
Speaker 6: with them a couple of years ago. Tom Stracking gave
Speaker 6: me a ninety one. I was up there, but Debro
Speaker 6: gave me a sixty seven. Gave me a D plus
Speaker 6: see me after class, is what it says on this here.
Speaker 6: So didn't like me. Neither did Brad Beats and Josh Kimmel,
Speaker 6: Nick Botteford or Ryan Weize. So not a lot of
Speaker 6: love there. Surprise, I got fifth in this. I think
Speaker 6: the build is okay for what I did when getting
Speaker 6: sniped so much, but I really didn't enjoy doing this draft.
Speaker 6: It was a not in my stomach the whole time.
Speaker 6: I kept getting sniped, and I'm glad it's over. I
Speaker 6: did not like this team.
Speaker 2: Look it at the draft board here.
Speaker 1: I want to kind of wrap up with us again
Speaker 1: highlighting a team other than our own that we really liked.
Speaker 1: I'm just like very torn between Suggs and Grim, picking
Speaker 1: one O eight and one eleven in this draft. I
Speaker 1: thought I liked Suggs's start a bit better than Grimm's,
Speaker 1: but I like Grimm's back half of the draft a
Speaker 1: bit better than Suggs. But really for both of them,
Speaker 1: I like their rosters all the way through. Just to
Speaker 1: recap for Grim, Herbert gent bo Nix, Chris Olave, Luther
Speaker 1: Byrd and Javonte Williams, Quinshawn Judkins, Michael Wilson, Jonathan Brooks.
Speaker 1: You know, later on he took Isaiah Likely and Greg
Speaker 1: Dulsich as a tight end pair. Taking those guys in
Speaker 1: rounds twelve and fourteen. He takes a swing on stribbling.
Speaker 2: I really like that.
Speaker 1: And then Suggs, you know, Caleb Amen, Ross Saqua, Derek
Speaker 1: Henry Colson, Loveland, Kien Williams. I have head over heels
Speaker 1: in love with those first six picks. I think that's
Speaker 1: a fantastic start, you know, Alex Pierce, Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit more question marks there around seven
Speaker 1: and eight. I didn't love Daniel Jones as much as
Speaker 1: his QB two was really my only complaint. But then
Speaker 1: Blake Korum, you know, upside swing on Ricky Piersaw, upside
Speaker 1: swing on guys like Dylan Sampson, Denzel Boston. I like
Speaker 1: both of those rosters quite a bit. Bogwin who stands
Speaker 1: out to you as your favorite roster than your own.
Speaker 6: Pepper and Bunting are the two that probably because I
Speaker 6: was drafting by them, but I really like Pepper Stack
Speaker 6: here Schuck and Lawrence with Gibbs, Josh Jacobs, Touton Kamara
Speaker 6: and Emma Johnson on the bench. Wide receivers are Nico Pickens,
Speaker 6: Parker Washington's if You're Worthy and Caleb Douglas ended up
Speaker 6: with Kittle and Chigg as the tight ends. I thought
Speaker 6: this was a really nice build for Pepper and Bunting
Speaker 6: going waiting on those qbs and going love and Willis
Speaker 6: but getting a chan Walker Pooka, jsn DK metcalf and
Speaker 6: the bench is strong too. Obviously upset me with the
Speaker 6: Jenderian Price pick. Also really good rbs on the bench
Speaker 6: with Nong Guy Marks and Alchier Wan Dale and Rashid
Speaker 6: Shaheed and Juwan Jennings as the backup wide receivers. I
Speaker 6: think Bunting's draft is probably my favorite fits. Do you
Speaker 6: have a favorite that stands out to you?
Speaker 5: Bunting is way up there, for sure.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of other ones I liked, like
Speaker 4: awesome dev getting that James Coke Chase Brown combo along
Speaker 4: with Jalen Hurtz. I mean, Hurts might have been a
Speaker 4: little early in the first round. Then just when I
Speaker 4: was thinking he didn't have enough at wide receiver, started
Speaker 4: well with Abukan Christian Watson I think gets Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking he doesn't have enough, kind of pulls out
Speaker 4: Josh Downs and Jalen Cocher reel eate to guys are
Speaker 4: really liked. He got the last of the top tight
Speaker 4: ends and Sam Laporta. So I liked what he did
Speaker 4: and I kind of liked what Bretzky did too. You know,
Speaker 4: Bretsky was kind of in danger of getting shut out
Speaker 4: at running back. He only had Jeremiah Love. Then he
Speaker 4: sneaks out Jalen Warren late in the eighth when I
Speaker 4: was real close to taking Warren in front of him
Speaker 4: when I took Harold fannin. So he gets Warren and
Speaker 4: then Chewba Hubbard to sort of, you know, nail shot
Speaker 4: that back door at running back.
Speaker 5: And I like some of the wide.
Speaker 4: Receivers he got laid too, like with Shakir and McMillan,
Speaker 4: to give him some kind of needed depth behind a
Speaker 4: really good starting three of Ceedee Lamb Molik, Neighbors and
Speaker 4: Davante Adams.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned he did win this draft.
Speaker 1: Based on the Fantasy Brosanalysis, he did finish kind of
Speaker 1: with the highest projected standing. He had the best score
Speaker 1: of anybody here. And also it feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: between myself a Bogman, we kept praising all the guys
Speaker 1: in the back half of the draft, not as much
Speaker 1: praise for the guys in the first half of the draft.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you highlighted Bretzki. There fits Ericson
Speaker 1: who stands out to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm not even doing this one like from
Speaker 3: the hip. I'm actually plugging in my rankings into the
Speaker 3: draft analyzer and will tell me who I like the
Speaker 3: most besides my draft and according to the tool, I
Speaker 3: like pepper Maniac the most and player roster. But actually
Speaker 3: look at the roster, I'm like, I really do like
Speaker 3: this team a lot. I like the build. So going here,
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that they got Jamior Gibbs at.
Speaker 5: Tenth, who crazy, I get.
Speaker 3: I would have taken him if I realized he was
Speaker 3: still on the board at seven, but of course I'm
Speaker 3: a dummy and didn't take him. I mean, if he's
Speaker 3: going to go this late, or any of these top
Speaker 3: three guys between Bijon Chase, behind these quarterbacks, you've got
Speaker 3: to scoop him up. Like I think that it's you Gotta.
Speaker 3: I think it's Josh Allen, Drake May and then Lamar
Speaker 3: and then I think after those guys, I'm willing to
Speaker 3: take a shot on the running backs and Chase or
Speaker 3: even Pooka to be honest and full PPR. So just
Speaker 3: getting him ten is insane. Trevor Lawrence, I love, is
Speaker 3: an MVP dark horse. And then his three receivers are
Speaker 3: Collins Pickens and Parker Washington. Jacob's Bachelle Twoton RB one,
Speaker 3: RB two, he has Tyler Schuck is his super flex quarterback,
Speaker 3: and then he doubled down with Mendoza cam Ward a
Speaker 3: couple of dark shots at quarterback, and then he got
Speaker 3: Kittling round eleven as a starting tight end with Chicka
Speaker 3: Konquo in round thirteen. So I think he did an
Speaker 3: excellent job with his team. And yeah, and I could
Speaker 3: not agree more with what the tool is saying here
Speaker 3: just when I input in my rankings. I'm curious, guys,
Speaker 3: if you do that with yours, with Bogs and Fitzie,
Speaker 3: if you guys plug in, if it wouldn't match what
Speaker 3: you said to see if it would actually match up
Speaker 3: with what your eyes were kind of telling you. So
Speaker 3: I do have a question though, for Worm on your team,
Speaker 3: because I'm curios because we both went zero RB. To
Speaker 3: an extent, you only drafted four running backs. Do you
Speaker 3: like that you did that or do you think, Hey,
Speaker 3: I wish i'd because how many you have so many
Speaker 3: wide receivers. I'm just feeling like, when are some of
Speaker 3: your late run receivers ever going to crack your team
Speaker 3: with all? Because you used to have so many studs. Already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's two thoughts I would say to that. Number
Speaker 1: One is a lot of the running backs that I
Speaker 1: had planned to take just went before I could get
Speaker 1: to them, and so I had planned to take more.
Speaker 1: It was sort of just like, hey, I don't want
Speaker 1: to sacrifice the guy that I think is clearly better
Speaker 1: just on my board, even if it's at a position
Speaker 1: I already have names at and two is and this
Speaker 1: sometimes hurts me in the scoring. You know, if you
Speaker 1: look at the mock draft after is I always approach
Speaker 1: these mock drafts as this is how I would draft
Speaker 1: if it was a real league that we were playing out,
Speaker 1: and I think this is a roster I can play
Speaker 1: out very well. Be active on the waiver wire for
Speaker 1: running backs to step into new opportunities. You know, I
Speaker 1: have all these wide receiver shots. In the first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, I'm going to know if some of these
Speaker 1: are panning out or not, like Trey Harris, Ady Mitchell,
Speaker 1: and I could be willing to if I am still
Speaker 1: loaded there trade them or hey, roster churn back end
Speaker 1: of the of the roster. I don't need to hang
Speaker 1: on to these guys more than a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of like swings, just wanting to
Speaker 1: take the best player, trusting myself to manage this team
Speaker 1: throughout the season, as opposed to like if I had
Speaker 1: to go, you know, into a season, if this was
Speaker 1: like best Ball and I knew I couldn't really do
Speaker 1: much managing, I would have approached it a little bit differently.
Speaker 1: But really the main excuse that I would have is
Speaker 1: just that people kept taking the running backs I wanted
Speaker 1: before they got back to me, which which makes me
Speaker 1: wish that I had taken Jonathan Taylor early to kind
Speaker 1: of slide down these other running backs down the board.
Speaker 1: Like if I was to change what I did at
Speaker 1: the two three turn, it wouldn't be like getting rid
Speaker 1: of Boers and taking London like which was what the
Speaker 1: computer recommended. It would be probably getting rid of aj
Speaker 1: Brown and taking Jonathan Taylor and then trusting the depth
Speaker 1: at receiver, which again, I'm really happy with the guys
Speaker 1: that got back to me later, so I would have
Speaker 1: approached it differently in that way with hindsight, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just sort of the way the board fell.
Speaker 2: And then also.
Speaker 1: Imagining playing this out, who would I be taking here,
Speaker 1: Brett Ski was the number one on my list when
Speaker 1: I switched it down to mine, so I had let's
Speaker 1: say I had.
Speaker 6: Worm In here at three even though we don't want
Speaker 6: to give him any credit, and then Pepper at four
Speaker 6: and Bunting at five.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, so yeah, Eddie, let's let's go around
Speaker 2: the horns with quick final thoughts.
Speaker 1: Anything you took away from the experience, anything you learned
Speaker 1: about what your approach would be in any of your
Speaker 1: own redraft super flex leagues, then will wrap things up.
Speaker 2: So just quickly here, Bogman. Any final takeaways.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not reaching on tight end ever again in a
Speaker 6: super flex. That's my overall take.
Speaker 2: It is funny. I was just I can't help myself.
Speaker 1: Every time we do a mock and Bowers is there
Speaker 1: at the two three turn, I take him because I
Speaker 1: just I think he could be like one of those
Speaker 1: league defining.
Speaker 2: Players this year with a healthy season.
Speaker 1: And every time i'm also I end up going man
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is available in the twelve saloport.
Speaker 6: Is able Andrews?
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time I say likely the twelve two, I'm
Speaker 1: like every time, I'm like, Man, the osob tight ends late.
Speaker 1: But I can I help myself. I am that in
Speaker 1: love with Brock Bauers. Fits with your final takeaway.
Speaker 4: It's always interesting to see how many quarterbacks go in
Speaker 4: the first round of a super Flex draft, and I
Speaker 4: feel like you might see as few as five go
Speaker 4: this year, and instead we got eight in this one,
Speaker 4: which I think is pretty close to the maximum what
Speaker 4: you're ever going to see.
Speaker 5: And it's interesting what it did.
Speaker 4: I mean, it pushed down Jackson Smith and Jigbit at
Speaker 4: two oh one. I'm an Aros Saint brought to two
Speaker 4: oh two. Bog's got Christian McCaffrey at two oh four,
Speaker 4: gent two oh five, So you know, makes for some
Speaker 4: pretty good values on position players. A little bit later on,
Speaker 4: you know, there's still some pretty good quarterbacks to be
Speaker 4: had beyond the second round of this super Flex draft.
Speaker 1: A lot of positions feel pretty deep this year, you know,
Speaker 1: quarterback being one of them for sure. Ericson final takeaway
Speaker 1: before we get out of.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, if you feel like you're reaching on a quarterback,
Speaker 3: you probably are. So that's something that I'm trying to
Speaker 3: my big takeaway because Rock Party and I felt the
Speaker 3: run right, It's just kind of lay that we had
Speaker 3: so many quarterbacks going round one. I'm on the clock.
Speaker 3: I didn't go quarterback in round one, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I got to get somebody here, and it ended up
Speaker 3: being a value proposition that I'm not really thrilled about. Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not totally I'm not screwed because again rock Perty
Speaker 3: is still good. Like, I'm happy I have him on
Speaker 3: my roster, but the fact that what I had to
Speaker 3: pay to get him versus all the skill position players
Speaker 3: based on where the other quarterbacks went in hindsight, yeah,
Speaker 3: I definitely would have approached that differently, and just a
Speaker 3: matter of don't fall to these runs, right. You want
Speaker 3: to be having people chase what you're starting with your
Speaker 3: one at the skill position players. So that's a big
Speaker 3: takeaway and it's why getting in these mocks, especially on superflex,
Speaker 3: because it's kind of like the Wow Wow West. There
Speaker 3: really is no true ADP when it comes to super flex.
Speaker 3: It's a matter of what does your league think of quarterbacks?
Speaker 3: Because some super flex, some quarterbacks don't get drafted at
Speaker 3: all in the first round. People are like, we don't
Speaker 3: care King's classic right fits? How the undervalued are all
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in that format? I get it's a one quarterback league,
Speaker 3: but it's an experts industry led league, and every expert
Speaker 3: is always like punt quarterback, except Josh Allen, so that's
Speaker 3: something to take away from it as well.
Speaker 1: It is interesting, I think to that point Ericson that,
Speaker 1: I think usually when we do these mocks there are
Speaker 1: several teams, maybe not several, but a few teams that
Speaker 1: don't take a quarterback with their first two picks. There
Speaker 1: were only two in this one. It was bunting and
Speaker 1: fits and that was it. I feel like we usually
Speaker 1: see one or two more beyond that who are kind
Speaker 1: of toying around with the waiting at quarterback strategy. So
Speaker 1: they went earlier here and we kind of had to adjust.
Speaker 1: So we'll go ahead and wrap.
Speaker 2: Things up there.
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for checking out this super Flex PPR mock draft,
Speaker 1: and I hope if you're in a super flex league
Speaker 1: it was helpful to you. Check out our tools do
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