1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Today, we have Governor Kevin Stit of Oklahoma with us, 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: which I'm very excited about because Governor, I expect you 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: to be able to explain all of the things that 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Kamala has been telling us. They don't make any sense, 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: but we don't know exactly how to talk about them. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 3: Well, Hi, Tutor, it's always good to see you and 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: be here on your podcast. So hopefully I can share 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: some of my business experience and some of my experience 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: as governor. 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: What you just said there is key, and I think 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: that's the major thing missing with this Democrat ticket is 13 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: that there is no business experience, so there's no understanding 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: of what the people on the ground are actually going through. 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: And I think that's funny because I watched them campaign 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: and they're like, Donald Trump doesn't know what's the difference 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: between a flathead and a Phillips head screwdriver. He's never 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: swung a hammer in his life, And I'm like, wait 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: a minute, You've literally had a government salary your entire life. 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: So true. I mean, I think when you're hiring, think 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: about this for a second. When you're hiring for a 22 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: position and the president of the United States is a 23 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: pretty big position, and they're going to be manning in 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: a trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars budget. So 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: when you look at their resumes, it's not even comparison 26 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: you have. You know, I've met Tim Walltz, Governor Waltz 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: is a nice guy, but he's never worked in the 28 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: private sector. Same thing with Kamala Harris. And then to 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: put them in charge, and all they've done is government employees. 30 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: All they think government's the answer to everything we know. Government, 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: like Ronald Reagan said, government is the problem. Get government 32 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: out of the way and let free enterprise and let 33 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: American innovation take over. And when the government tries to 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: tell you what gas stove you can use and can't use, 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: they're the ones causing the inflation with these policies. And 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: the American people are too smart for it, and that's 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 3: why they're gonna lect President Trump in November. 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think they are too smart, but they have 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: to be educated. I think they have to be able 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: to see that side of it, and nobody is. The 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: media is very manipulative and they're not telling you that. 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: And so I think the way you put it was 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: so powerful just there. If you've if you've literally worked 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: in government your whole life, of course you're going to 45 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: automatically think that I am the answer because you are government. 46 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: You've been government forever. 47 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: And that's what I think Kamala Harris is talking about 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: when she says, suddenly, now you know, it's like Oprah's 49 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: favorite things. 50 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: It's free here, free this, free that, free housing. 51 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: They're going to give away twenty five thousand dollars down 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: payments to anybody buying a first time home. 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: You have experience obviously in this world. 54 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: You're saying, gosh, this would be a disaster if all 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden we have a lot more demand and 56 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: no supply. 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly exactly right. So Kamala Harris is her 58 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: economic plan to lower housing prices. So I just want 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: people to understand that. So her plan, if we're going 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: to lower housing prices or things are costing too much money, 61 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: then we want to go give every single first time 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: home buyer twenty five thousand dollars. Well, here's the problem 63 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: with that. When you give everybody twenty five thousand dollars 64 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 3: and you say, hey, here's all this more demand for housing, 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: but you don't fix the supply side, it has the 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: complete opposite. Prices go up instead of coming down. That's 67 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: the worst thing you can do. Plus I've lived through. 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: I mean before I became governor, that was my business. 69 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: I was in the mortgage business, mortgage servicing, banking. That's 70 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: the last thing that you want to do, you, I mean, 71 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: creating that much more demand. And does anybody remember the 72 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: financial crisis that happened because you artificially start driving prices 73 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: up and uh, and then when the appraisals come back 74 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: and there's a there's any kind of down market and 75 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: people can't afford those houses because they were artificially given 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: a given a mortgage that they shouldn't have had in 77 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: the first place, there was no skin in the game. 78 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: Then you're gonna have a huge crash that's gonna that's 79 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: gonna hurt everybody's value. So again, the free market principles 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: that we grew up in and our founding fathers believed in. 81 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: It has created the greatest middle class the world has 82 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: ever seen. And for this administration and these government employees 83 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: to say they're going to fix this issue with more government, 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: it's just mind boggling to people that understand economics. 85 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think they're also very short sighted. I don't 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: think they look at the whole picture. They're like, oh, 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: there's a problem. We'll give people money and then they'll 88 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: be able to buy a house. But to your point, 89 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: this is that's where the problem starts. When people artificially 90 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: get this injection of cash, they don't they don't necessarily 91 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: have that kind of money to have that house. So 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: then when they can't pay their mortgage payments. But I 93 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: think it goes beyond that. You have people who then 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: can't pay mortgage payments. In addition to you've increased inflation 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: because a lot more free money just went out the door, 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: and that hurts everybody. So they got free money to 97 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: buy a house, but now the grocery bill is way higher. 98 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: How is that helping? 99 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right, very well put. And the way 100 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: you fix housing and because if there's more, if we 101 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: need more housing, more first time housing in America, Uh, 102 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: here's how you fix it. You get more lots online. 103 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: You actually get rid of the regulation that's keeping developers 104 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: from developing lots. You have a lot of municipalities that 105 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: aren't developing smaller lot sizes. They're saying, hey, I don't 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: want this in my backyard. Don't want this. But if 107 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: you the entrepreneur, the business innovation, the business people will 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: fill that need if you get government out of the 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: way and stop all the regulations. I remind people all 110 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: the time that regulations help big companies, but it hurts 111 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: the small guys, it hurts middle class. And so we 112 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: need to make sure that we allow home builders, first 113 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: time homebuilders, new lot developments to come online. And that's 114 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: how you're going to fix the supply issue. That's how 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: you're going to get You're going to think have things 116 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: get affordable housing in the hands of the people, not 117 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: by creating another government program to give more people more money. 118 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: So I think that people mistakenly believe regulations go into 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: play to protect the environment, that these are regulations that 120 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: are not only protecting the environment, but protecting people, protecting wildlife, 121 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: things like that. They don't realize the amount of money 122 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: that goes into the behind the scenes of lobbying by 123 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: big corporations that shut down the smaller guy. 124 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll pick on the. 125 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: Family owned slaughterhouse gets shut down because suddenly they put 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: in a regulation and they say this isn't safe, what 127 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: was safe, but they want to take over all the business. 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: There are some shady things that happen in government that 129 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: we don't know about. 130 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: So well. I mean, we could give you example after 131 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: example of regulation that really the smaller operator cannot withstand. 132 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: They can't upgrade their plant, they can't upgrade their facility 133 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 3: to meet those new regulations. The big companies, corporations can. 134 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: They're the ones with the lobbyists. They're the ones that 135 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: have the money, whether you know, and they're the ones 136 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: that are pushing the federal government and these different federal 137 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: agencies to put more regulation in place because that create 138 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: it's more of a barrier to entry. It actually makes 139 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: the margins go up for their industry. You get competition 140 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: out when you deregulate and you get rid of useless, 141 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: worthless regulations. That's when you actually have a true efficient 142 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: market in the system. 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Stay tuned because we've got more with Governor sit 174 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: after this. And I really do think that there is 175 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: a reason to go through and review these regulations regularly 176 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: because we have I mean, like, for example, in the 177 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: state of Michigan, we have a full time legislature. If 178 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: you have a full time legislature, they want to make laws, 179 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 2: they want to pass bills, and honestly, I don't know 180 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: that we need one. I think that Texas has a 181 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: much better program where they're not passing bills all the time. 182 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: Because as you pass things, if you feel they need 183 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,359 Speaker 2: to do that, you're sometimes passing things that are unnecessary 184 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: and you are hindering business. 185 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: And I would say in the state of Michigan, we've 186 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: seen that. Now. 187 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: Gretchen Whitmer came out with a similar plan to Kamala Harris. 188 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: She said, we are going to take one point five 189 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: billion dollars out of our budget and we're going to 190 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: build housing. 191 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: Who is building the housing? Like? Who owns the housing? Then? 192 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: How does this work when government instead of bringing businesses in? 193 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: Like in my lifetime, I have lived in a few 194 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: different areas where all of a sudden the area just 195 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: blew up and grew and big businesses came in and 196 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: people started building their own house. Right, they were paying 197 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: construction companies to come in. They needed the houses, then 198 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: they owned the house. Like, why are we suddenly saying 199 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: we need housing. We don't have people that can afford housing. 200 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: We're going to build housing from the How does that work? 201 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Does the government own the housing? 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: Listen? I said they exactly on faced the nation whenever 203 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: they said, yeah, Kamala Harris's plan is to build you know, 204 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's two or three million more 205 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: houses in the US. And I'm like, why don't you 206 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: ask her who actually builds the houses? It's it's companies 207 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: in Oklahoma, and it's companies in Michigan, and it's companies 208 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: in Texas. It's the private sector that builds those houses. Right, 209 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 3: So that's just a talking point that the left says, Oh, 210 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: we're going to build more housing. Again, companies, the private sector, 211 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: a free market system, if you deregulate, if you get 212 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: government out of the way, they're going to come fill 213 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: those needs. But right now you have so many regulations 214 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: that you can't get permits done. It takes you six 215 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: years longer than the European countries and certainly China, India, 216 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: other countries to get makes sense permitting done. We can 217 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: build things faster and quicker if we can use our 218 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: head and it doesn't go through you know, seven different 219 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: layers of federal bureaucracy. That's really the problem. And so 220 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: in Oklahoma, I want Oklahoma to be the most business 221 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: friendly state. So what we're focusing on is, you know, 222 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: first off, we know that companies are trying to do 223 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: the right thing. They're trying to take care of their employees, 224 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: their customers, the environment. And that's the strategy and the 225 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: philosophy that I tell all my regulatory bodies to do. 226 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: And so I sign an executive order. You'll love this, tutor, 227 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: And I told all of my state agencies in my 228 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: regulatory bodies that if you don't get a permit back 229 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: within thirty days, it's free to the to the to 230 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: the business because isn't that great. I'm trying to motivate us. 231 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: We want to act at the speed of business, and 232 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: we want everybody to know Oklahoma is the most business 233 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 3: friendly state because people are leaving states like California and 234 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: they're moving to states like Oklahoma and Texas and Tennessee 235 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: and Florida because they know that we're business friendly. 236 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: And I think people don't realize how big of a 237 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: deal that is. So let me just explain. 238 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: When I was campaigning, it was shocking to me the 239 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: number of people that said, look, it's not that we 240 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: can't bring businesses here, or that Michigan is not attractive 241 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: to work in. You know, people make up, oh it 242 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: snows here, we can't get businesses here. They said we 243 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: were able to go to other states. I had one 244 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: company say, we talked to Michigan. After nine months, we 245 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: still didn't have a permit. We just decided to scrap 246 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: everything in Michigan. We went to North Carolina and we 247 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: had a permit within thirty days. 248 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: I hear those stories all the time, shovel ready sites 249 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: and so permitting is a big deal. And then also 250 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: I also remind people, even on a federal basis. You know, 251 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: as the governor's Republican governors, we're pushing the federal government 252 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: for permitting reform. We need to get rid of all 253 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: the bureaucracy. Even if you believe that wind energy is 254 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: going to be we need more wind energy, need more 255 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: transmission lines connecting the grid together. If you believe in 256 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: in gas pipelines, you need gas pipelines. If you want hydrogen, 257 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: hydrogen moves different than natural gas, we're gonna need new pipelines. 258 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what you're doing building new roads, you 259 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 3: have to have permitting reform. We can't go through and 260 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: and have things take a decade to get a simple permit. 261 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: I think most Americans scratch their head and just go, 262 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: this is just this is ridiculous. How big the bureaucracy 263 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: the federal government's gotten, all the different federal agencies that 264 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: have to go in, and then you have all the 265 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: lawsuits that come in. If you're trying to build a 266 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: build a new road, that's the kind of stuff. I 267 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: think that that really has to be addressed, and a 268 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: Trump administration will address that. A Trump administration will get 269 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: rid of the bureaucracy. Where a Harris Waltz administration. They 270 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: believe in more government. They think that's the answer. Let's 271 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: just throw another another government agency up, and we're going 272 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: to somehow fix our housing problems. That's that's not true. 273 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 274 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: I had business people that were literally the American dream, 276 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: grew up or made created a business in their garage, 277 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: ended up building it up to be a billion dollar business, 278 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: and had hundreds of thousands of employees. So not only 279 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,239 Speaker 2: did they create a business and create wealth for themselves, 280 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: but they employed hundreds of thousands of people across the country. 281 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: And they would tell me time and time again today, 282 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it today. 283 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: The regulations are so stringent. 284 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: I would never have been able to create the product 285 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: in the first place, so I couldn't do what I'm 286 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: doing today. And that innovation, Honestly, that innovation is what 287 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: has driven us to not only be the leaders in 288 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: the world when it comes to new products and innovation 289 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: of itself, but also to be the cleanest in the world, 290 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: because you have to be able to experiment to figure 291 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: out how to make how to manufacture in a clean way. Instead, 292 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: we have people saying, well, buy more from China. Well, 293 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: last time I checked, we're all on the same globe. 294 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: So if China is this massive polluter and we could 295 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: do it better here, why aren't we encouraging and helping 296 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: our own companies And yet we're not one thing I 297 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: want to get to because that leads me to employees. 298 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: We are struggling in the state of Michigan. Ever since COVID, 299 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: we have struggled to get people to go back to 300 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: work in a few industries. When we look at the 301 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: healthcare industry, we are struggling to get nurses. If we 302 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: look at the agriculture industry, we're struggling to get workers. 303 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: And if we look at manufacturing, we are struggling to 304 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: get workers. And then if you look at hospitality, hotels 305 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: and restaurants, we are struggling to find people to take 306 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: those jobs. You recently or I guess it was signed 307 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: to bill saying you wanted to be able to bring 308 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: in migrant workers for some of these jobs. You've gotten 309 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of pushback on that. I wanted to 310 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: talk about that because I think people don't understand if 311 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: you don't have the people there, it is detrimental to 312 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: the entire society. 313 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there was some misunderstanding some people on the internet. 314 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: But first off, I'll just say we're not giving any 315 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: kind of driver's license to illegals. I supported Governor Abbott. 316 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: I sent people to the border. We have to have 317 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: a secure border, that's first and foremost, and people Harris 318 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: needs to own that because her administration was cutting Razor wire, 319 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: creating more access to the US, and we were sending 320 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: our troops down there to really just follow the law. 321 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: So that's what we've done in Oklahoma. What we're talking 322 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: about here is the Biden Harris administration has jacked up 323 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: immigration workforce permits right, just totally jacked them up. It 324 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: takes ten years for someone to get a work visa 325 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: to come match up with an employer in Michigan or 326 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: Oklahoma or Texas. And that's what I think the states 327 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: are going to have to fix this. The federal government's 328 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: not going to fix it. So basically, what I was 329 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: trying to do is if we at the University of 330 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: Oklahoma will if we've got a education visa for somebody 331 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: from India or Pakistan or France, and we trained it 332 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: with be an engineer. Then they have to go back, 333 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: and Boweling wants to hire them there in Oklahoma City 334 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 3: to support what they're doing in Oklahoma City. I want 335 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: to match those employer employee relationships up. And the federal 336 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: government it takes them ten years to do anything. We 337 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: just talk about the bureaucracy. So I think we should 338 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: have state based work visas to match employers with the employee. 339 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: Our unemployment right now in Oklahoma is super low. Everybody 340 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 3: that wants a job has a job. Our labor participations up, 341 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: and yet I still have more companies moving to my state. 342 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: So I'm trying to match up that doctor from I've 343 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: got a great relationship with Pakistani doctors that do their 344 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: residency here. They would like to stay here and rule Oklahoma, 345 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: but they have to be go back because they can't 346 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: get a visa. And so those are the things we're 347 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: talking about. Is how can I help my companies in 348 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: Oklahoma match up with the employees that they need to 349 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: create more jobs and more revenue for my state. Really 350 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: is what I'm doing. 351 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: So in Michigan, we have a similar situation where we 352 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: wanted to bring in workers that we felt were skilled 353 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: workers from Eastern Europe, and I was in the steel industry. 354 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: My dad had a steel foundry, and so this is 355 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: something my dad was looking at. 356 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Okay, these guys are experts. 357 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: We don't have anybody that understands pouring metal and finishing metal. 358 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: We could bring these guys in and train our people, 359 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: and we would be able to continue this industry that's 360 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: so critical to all of our whether it's egg, whether 361 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: it's mining, whether it's military, a critical industry. But because 362 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: they didn't have a degree, the federal government said, no, 363 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: you can't give them a work visus. So I find 364 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: it interesting the idea of bringing it to the States 365 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: because I think the States really understand what we need. 366 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: And also healthcare is another situation where we don't have 367 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: nursing staff. We used to be overflowing with nursing staff, 368 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: but I think people really got scared off after COVID. 369 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a great point. You know, we're 370 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: trying to reshure. We're trying to bring in critical minerals 371 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: and mining and processing and mineral to magnet manufacturing and 372 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: things that go into our cell phones and our fighters, 373 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 3: but we've lost a lot of that workforce and that expertise. 374 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 3: Sometimes we have to get that expertise from some of 375 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: our allies around the world from the engineering front. And 376 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: that's the thing that just makes no sense at all. 377 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 3: I explained, I'm a big football fan. Maybe some of 378 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: your listeners are. We're like the NFL and we've got 379 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: the number one draft pick. Everybody wants to come to America, 380 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 3: and we're not utilizing that. We should get the best 381 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: and brightest, you know, to help us with our industries 382 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 3: and our technology. And if you want to chase the 383 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: American dream and you want to pay taxes, and you 384 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: want to be involved with our values, and you believe 385 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: like we do, that America is the land of the opportunity, 386 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: and then why wouldn't we match that with our employers 387 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: and allow allow that success to come. And you made 388 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: a great point. It's it's these new businesses and startups 389 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: in the middle class and these new industries that create jobs. 390 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: The government doesn't create jobs. Private sectors creates jobs. And 391 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: we need to remind our federal government that occasionally that 392 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: you know, government would not exist without the private sector. 393 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: You are here to make businesses flow and make things 394 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: better for everyone. Because when businesses are thriving, all boats rise. 395 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: It helps education, infrastructure, healthcare, everybody when we can get 396 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: our economy booming. And so that's why the thom is 397 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: on as governor. 398 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: And border security. 399 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that's something I keep hearing the other side say, 400 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: these people have to come in because they're doing the 401 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: jobs nobody else, no American wants to do well. Even 402 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: if there are jobs that we don't have Americans to fill, 403 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't it be better to have visas to make sure 404 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: these people were living legally? I mean, I remember we 405 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: had a guy who had worked at the shop before 406 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: we owned it, and we had no idea that he 407 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: was illegal. Came in, took him, took him away from 408 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: his family, took him away from his kids, and there's nothing, 409 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 2: there's nothing you could do as an employer. Why not 410 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: give them the opportunity if they want to come here 411 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: and be Americans? And he wanted to be an American. 412 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: If you want to be an American, come here, be 413 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: an American and work. But why aren't we talking about 414 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: how to make that happen? To me? 415 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: That is incredibly frustrating. 416 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: But before I let you go, I want to really 417 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: quickly touch on school safety. 418 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: We have had this disaster in Georgia. I can't. It 419 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: makes me. 420 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: It's hard to talk about as a parent because I 421 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: think it's every parent's worst nightmares another one of these 422 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: school shootings. 423 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: You've worked extensively on school safety. 424 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: I applaud you for that because we can't get anybody 425 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: in this state to pay attention to it. Talk a 426 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: little bit about what you've done and how you see 427 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: this going forward. 428 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: Our hearts are just broken when we see this happen. 429 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: I texted with Governor Camp yesterday and just setting told 430 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: him that ope, the Homans are praying for him, and 431 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: just I mean, there's nothing worse as a governor. I mean, 432 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: those are the things that I just you know, you know, 433 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: pray and try to do everything I can with our 434 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: team to make sure that our schools are safe here 435 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: in Oklahoma. So a couple of things that we've done, 436 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 3: obviously the panic buttons and all the things that we've 437 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: technology wise mandated all of our teachers have and so 438 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: we got rid of all the all the layers of 439 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 3: bureaucracy that I'll go to, all law enforcement everywhere on 440 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: the state, county, local, statewide. But also we have put 441 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million dollars into school resource officers 442 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: to make sure every school does what they need. I've 443 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: been I've you know, mandated that every single law enforcement 444 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: around the state does active shooter type situation whatever's happening 445 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 3: in the state. And then, you know, so we're doing 446 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: everything we can and then you know, just educating that 447 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: next generation and educating the kids how to be safe. 448 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: We also, from a technology standpoint, we share data from 449 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 3: all of our law enforcement from our schools, and so 450 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: we monitor all the internet traffic because every time you 451 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: hear this happening, well there was a red flag a 452 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: year ago, or somebody knew this or that, and so 453 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: we've really tried to set up and we've done a 454 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: great job of sharing data. So I can't give away 455 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: all of our secrets, but we're monitoring all that around 456 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 3: the state right now and that seems to be working 457 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: well too. 458 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I really feel like the things that we 459 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: talked about today are some of the most critical issues 460 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: facing Americans. And people always ask me, well, what do 461 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: parents really want to hear? And I say the same 462 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: thing every time. I want to know my kids are safe. 463 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. 464 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: Their lives are absolutely the most important thing to me 465 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: as a mom, all of the other stuff that goes 466 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: on in politics, I'm like, keep my kids safe, and 467 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: looking at what happened in Georgia, I just think it 468 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: has to be a conversation every day. How do we 469 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: know our schools are safe? How do we know our 470 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: schools are safe? What's happening in our schools? And everybody 471 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: can complain, well this or that we can never do that, No, 472 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: get together, start talking about I love that you've been 473 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: able to do this. I love that you consistently talk 474 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: about it and that you're there for parents and honestly, 475 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: the resource officer from what we're hearing so far on 476 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: the ground in Georgia, the resource officer being there was 477 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: what stopped this boy with the weapon. Sadly we still 478 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: lost lives, so not good enough yet, but it did 479 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: stop anything further from happening. And I applaud you for 480 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: what you've done on this, and I just our prayers 481 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: and our hearts are with those families. I can't imagine it. 482 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: We will continue fighting to make sure it doesn't happen again. 483 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for what you've done. 484 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank thanks tutor. This is a great conversation and 485 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: thanks for sharing this with the American people. Keep talking policy. 486 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: If we talk policy, we're going to win this election 487 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: because Americans know that the Republican policy on economics, it's 488 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: going to low inflation, is going to cost, it's going 489 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: to make everything cheaper at the grocery store. We're gonna 490 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: have border security, we're stronger on the defense side, and 491 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: people need to understand that. And I think when they 492 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: really think about it, we need a Republican back in 493 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: the White House. 494 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll put you in charge and the government will 495 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: serve you the way it's supposed to be. Thank you, 496 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: Thank you for being a great servant Governor stt. I 497 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: appreciate having you on. Thanks Tutor, and thank you all 498 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this 499 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: podcast and others, go to Tutordison dot com or iHeartRadio app, 500 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and join 501 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 502 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: Have a blessing.