Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, I los Nandas. Please Hey boo, it's me
Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Bostood by Roz Hernandez, the podcast
Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
Speaker 1: I got to talk to rosebud Baker, who is such
Speaker 1: a hilarious comedian. She is a writer on SNL and
Speaker 1: she has a new Netflix special coming out called mother Load.
Speaker 1: Look out for that. She is such a good comedian
Speaker 1: and she has some stories. Oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: like perfect episode, I really think. So it's a great
Speaker 1: one because we got some good stories, we get a
Speaker 1: little real and we laugh. What Morgage ask for? Oh,
Speaker 1: speaking of laughter, something that I love to make people do.
Speaker 1: And you know, constantly I'm doing comedy whether you realize
Speaker 1: it or not. I am working on a lot of
Speaker 1: dates right now, and I'm trying. I'm trying to get everywhere.
Speaker 1: I want to go to all fifty states in America,
Speaker 1: and trust me, I want to go beyond America to
Speaker 1: trust me, I wouldn't mind a little break. So I'm
Speaker 1: working on dates. So make sure you're paying attention to
Speaker 1: my social media. Everything's on Instagram at ros Hernandez. Also,
Speaker 1: speaking of being a comedian, I am nominated for a
Speaker 1: queert Award, which is a great honor. It's a great
Speaker 1: LGBTQ publication called the Queer Teas and you are allowed
Speaker 1: to vote for it every single day, and that voting
Speaker 1: is open until February twenty fifth on Queer Tea's website.
Speaker 1: If you're unsure how to spell it or whatever, just
Speaker 1: go to my link tree, which we'll have a link
Speaker 1: to it there so I can say I'm an award
Speaker 1: winning comedian and the people I'm up against, oh my god,
Speaker 1: some of my biggest enemies. Actually, I think a couple
Speaker 1: of people that have been on the show, probably I
Speaker 1: don't know, vote for me, We're vote for them, They're
Speaker 1: all great whatever, whatever, Just you know, vote, very very important. Okay.
Speaker 1: Let me give you a story real quick. This one
Speaker 1: comes from a listener named Emma Emirates. A few years ago,
Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I moved into a house in the
Speaker 1: historic district of a mountain town in Colorado. Built in
Speaker 1: nineteen ten, the house came with its own piece of history,
Speaker 1: a hauntingly beautiful photo of the original owner's three sons,
Speaker 1: which still hangs in our hallway. At first we thought
Speaker 1: it was a quirky keepsake, but when we decided to
Speaker 1: put the photo away, the house seemed to retaliate. It
Speaker 1: started subtly. Fire alarms blared when we stood underneath them
Speaker 1: without cause. We called a maintenance professional to check them out,
Speaker 1: but they couldn't find anything wrong. Then came the voices
Speaker 1: and whistles. Whispers and faint whistling would float up from downstairs.
Speaker 1: We'd go to check it out, but no one was
Speaker 1: ever there. Friends began to notice strange things too. One
Speaker 1: of them watched our storm door open and close repeatedly,
Speaker 1: as if an unseen hand was testing it. She stepped
Speaker 1: outside to check for wind, but the air was completely still.
Speaker 1: The most unsettling moment happened while I was sitting on
Speaker 1: the porch reading. I heard the unmistakable sound of footsteps
Speaker 1: stomping through the living room. Thinking it was our dog.
Speaker 1: Because I was the only one home, I went to check,
Speaker 1: only to find him asleep at my feet. Safe to say,
Speaker 1: I ran outside to collect myself for a few minutes.
Speaker 1: Then there was the furnace. Every summer, we'd turn off
Speaker 1: the heat for the season as fall approached. One October,
Speaker 1: our maintenance guy came to switch it back on. A
Speaker 1: Few mornings later, I woke up to a bone shilling house.
Speaker 1: It was barely fifty degrees inside. We called him back
Speaker 1: and he was visibly annoyed. He says, who keeps turning
Speaker 1: the furdus off? My boyfriend and I just stared at
Speaker 1: each other. Neither of us even knew how to access
Speaker 1: the switch. It was always handled by the landlord. He
Speaker 1: told us this was the second time someone had physically
Speaker 1: flipped the lever to the off position. It's not easy
Speaker 1: to do, he said, it takes some effort. In the end,
Speaker 1: he had to padlock the switch to keep it from
Speaker 1: being tampered with. Strange occurrences continued until I decided to
Speaker 1: follow some advice I heard on Living for the Dead.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was on that show. One night.
Speaker 1: I stood in the living room, sage in hand, fed
Speaker 1: up as fuck, and I said, I see you. I
Speaker 1: respect your space, but I am not okay okay with this.
Speaker 1: I'm here to take care of your home, and I
Speaker 1: need you to leave us alone. That same night, I
Speaker 1: also agreed to put the photo of the boys back
Speaker 1: on display as long as they left us alone. Since then,
Speaker 1: the house has been quiet, eerily so, and every now
Speaker 1: and then I catch myself glancing at that old photo
Speaker 1: completely weirded out. Thank you, Emma God. I love a
Speaker 1: good ghost story. All right, let's talk to the hilarious
Speaker 1: rosebud Baker and with the show. Rosebud Roz, thanks for
Speaker 1: being here.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: You're a New Yorker.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, you work at us at all?
Speaker 1: I was just watching that documentary and I saw you
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: I was running from the cameras.
Speaker 1: Did you see me running that Peacock documentary? Which was great?
Speaker 1: You know? I put it on and I was like,
Speaker 1: are they gonna like go from the beginning?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, like.
Speaker 1: Focuses on, like there's an episode just about the writers,
Speaker 1: and that's where I saw you.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: I spent the entire year last year hiding from that
Speaker 2: camera crew. I was like, I'm not answering questions about
Speaker 2: my job that I currently have on camera.
Speaker 1: It seems stressful.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not doing this. This feels like
Speaker 2: a trap.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: You know, every time I have an SNL person here,
Speaker 1: I asked them if thirty Rock is haunted, they always say, no,
Speaker 1: what's your experience.
Speaker 2: I would say haunted, Uh, by my own personal demons,
Speaker 2: I would say. I would say people's personal demons are enough.
Speaker 2: I think if a ghost walked into thirty Rock, they'd
Speaker 2: be like, it feels a little crowded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're like, take me to a farmhouse in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere so I can possess it.
Speaker 2: I can really make an impact.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this is too much. Too many personalities, too
Speaker 1: much conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's too many internal conversations happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's why I wonder when it's completely quiet,
Speaker 1: there's nobody there. I bet you a security guard has
Speaker 1: got a story. Oh yeah, you know, somebody like that.
Speaker 1: Not the people that are like, shit, well I got
Speaker 1: a deadline, I gotta.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, somebody. I mean, I wonder if thirty Rock
Speaker 2: has ever been completely quiet, To be honest, that's really
Speaker 2: the question, because I've never seen that building quiet, right,
Speaker 2: and I'm there until early morning.
Speaker 1: Wow. You know I have so much respect for people
Speaker 1: that are you're you're doing this season right? Yes? Yes, good.
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun. I think honestly, I think part
Speaker 2: of why it's so good is that I'm no longer
Speaker 2: writing on the sketch side. Okay, I moved over to
Speaker 2: weekend updates love it, which I God bless the sketch writers.
Speaker 2: They are so good to what they do. I spent
Speaker 2: three years in the sketch writing, and I still have
Speaker 2: no idea how it works. Like I had sketches on
Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what I'm doing here, and then
Speaker 2: over the summer I reached out and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't there's no real reason for me to be
Speaker 2: on the sketch side. I write single jokes.
Speaker 1: Right right right. That's that's how I feel, too, Like
Speaker 1: I like a joke, yes, and I feel like there's
Speaker 1: some good ones these days on that show. Congratulations, good job,
Speaker 1: thank you. Gee pushes the envelope, which I appreciate in
Speaker 1: a way that's not like the gross way, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's like still fun walk in that line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels fun and funny and it's not it's
Speaker 2: not just like That's what I love about it is
Speaker 2: it's not Edgy just for Edgy's sake, you know, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Good job, thank you. Hey, what about ghosts?
Speaker 2: What about ghosts?
Speaker 1: Are you Okay? Here's the annoying thing I say almost
Speaker 1: every single damn episode. We never hear New York ghost
Speaker 1: stories ever. Oh from my guests.
Speaker 2: Well, New York is a very haunted city.
Speaker 1: I don't know why these people they come on my show,
Speaker 1: they never have a ghost Like I'll have people that
Speaker 1: live in New York or spend time in New York,
Speaker 1: but their stories will not be from actual New York City, right,
Speaker 1: every once in a while, but not enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah for my liking, I have some very intense I mean,
Speaker 2: most of my experience with like the metaphysical is through mediums.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, mediums who have literally accosted me on the
Speaker 2: street where like apparently I'm dripping with corpses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they just come up to you and they go,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I have to tell you something.
Speaker 2: They literally will be like, I'm I'm so sorry about
Speaker 2: what happened to your friend, or they'll literally say exactly
Speaker 2: different people that I know who have died.
Speaker 1: How many times does this happen?
Speaker 2: Oh? Millions? Are you kidding me? I are you serious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: just part of my life. But death has been a
Speaker 2: major theme.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: So I lost my sister years years ago, twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Now I've heard you talk about yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I have, and then i'm I'm a recovering alcoholic.
Speaker 2: So I have any ton of friends?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah in two days, ten years.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, congratulations, that's amazing. Yeah. So you know,
Speaker 2: we know a lot of people who die. Yeah, sadly,
Speaker 2: but tons of my friends gone gone with the wind.
Speaker 2: And I'm comics, so those comics they die, Yeah, they
Speaker 2: die young. And so yeah, I'm just I just really
Speaker 2: am riddled with dead bodies. Apparently they're just following me around.
Speaker 2: They like.
Speaker 1: You know, what's funny that I always say, my dead
Speaker 1: people not interested? So it's a compliment.
Speaker 2: What do you mean they're not They're not around like
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 1: You've talked to mediums and they they say goodbye, and
Speaker 1: that's the end of the story. I go, no further comments,
Speaker 1: that's it, weird, no comment. I go to psychics. I
Speaker 1: accost psychics. I'm the opposite. I go up to them
Speaker 1: and say, is there a dead body around me and
Speaker 1: they say, I'm sorry, babe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no right, and you're like, can you make one up.
Speaker 1: Exactly, just say something. Did you have a grandma that
Speaker 1: does just say something? Just make it up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Actually I have had them where they're like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing some like they start describing someone. I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: not I never Yeah, I don't talk to people that
Speaker 1: look like that. Right, Okay, So give me an example
Speaker 1: of one of these stories. Somebody comes up to you.
Speaker 2: So there was one time I was at a comedy club.
Speaker 2: It was a New York comedy club, and there was
Speaker 2: a girl that was working there who came up and
Speaker 2: was like like immediately I saw her and I thought,
Speaker 2: oh my god, is this someone that I met while
Speaker 2: I was drinking? Who I like, did something terrible to
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because the way that she
Speaker 2: reacted to me was like she remembered something that I
Speaker 2: couldn't remember.
Speaker 1: She was in the audience, and you really.
Speaker 2: She came back in the green room. I'd never seen
Speaker 2: her in the club before. She comes back in the
Speaker 2: green room to bring somebody a drink, and she saw
Speaker 2: me and she went like like she had like a
Speaker 2: visceral physical reaction to me, and I was like, oh no,
Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, well, I'll introduce myself to her
Speaker 2: and maybe i'll like remember something. You know, when you
Speaker 2: drink a lot, you're like maybe I blacked out, and
Speaker 2: I really like said something horrible or did something terrible,
Speaker 2: you know, I had that feeling of like, oh no.
Speaker 2: So I was like, let me just introduce myself and
Speaker 2: see if I can put the pieces together here. And
Speaker 2: she shook my hand, but she like didn't want to
Speaker 2: touch me, and I was like, I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry. I was like, are you okay? Because she
Speaker 2: just seemed fucked up, and so I asked if she
Speaker 2: was all right and she was like, I I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I just I need a second. She like left, and
Speaker 2: then she came back and she was like, I have
Speaker 2: to tell you this. I'm I'm so sorry about what
Speaker 2: happened to your sister. And I was like, oh, did
Speaker 2: you have did you have a family member where it
Speaker 2: happened to them as well or something, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And she was like, no, we've never met before.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know you, but I you know,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry about what happened to your sister. And
Speaker 2: I'm a medium and I've just kind of started to
Speaker 2: open myself up to this. And at this point I'm going, Ah,
Speaker 2: she's kind of like, it's giving scam artist.
Speaker 1: I've heard it on podcasts. I've heard you talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah you have, I have. Oh you're saying that she
Speaker 2: she listened to That's what I was thinking, right, But
Speaker 2: then she started to describe things about it that no
Speaker 2: one had heard and.
Speaker 1: No one knew that's that's how you do it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, this is fucked. Like she
Speaker 2: knew her middle name, she knew how this had happened
Speaker 2: to her, like the details of it and how she
Speaker 2: had gotten to the hospital, and how like the way
Speaker 2: that my mom had told me and stuff. And then
Speaker 2: she started talking about like things that she wanted to
Speaker 2: say and how she always she was like, she's always
Speaker 2: on your right arm. And it's so funny that she
Speaker 2: because she mentioned that. But I had always had these
Speaker 2: moments where I was like waiting for the subway, or
Speaker 2: I was like falling or something, and I felt like
Speaker 2: something from my right hand like bring me back, really
Speaker 2: in a way that I had never mentioned out loud.
Speaker 2: Because it made me feel insane, right, And that was
Speaker 2: when I went, Okay, this feels like legit, you know,
Speaker 2: this feels like she knows what she's talking about. The
Speaker 2: weird thing then, was that I never saw her at
Speaker 2: the club again, Like she wasn't real. Other people were there,
Speaker 2: they saw this conversation happen, but I never saw her
Speaker 2: again at the club. So I was like, this feels
Speaker 2: like a weird uh. I mean, maybe she had a
Speaker 2: psychotic break. I have no idea, but she wasn't just
Speaker 2: like a messenger. So yeah, it felt like a messenger.
Speaker 2: And it felt like like I had an explanation for
Speaker 2: why I always felt this feeling, this weird feeling, like
Speaker 2: as if I was holding someone's hand while I was
Speaker 2: like waiting for the subway or waiting for a bus,
Speaker 2: or like I would just feel sometimes at night, I
Speaker 2: would feel like someone was holding my hand while I
Speaker 2: was going to sleep, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: so that kind of felt like, oh, this feels like
Speaker 2: a message, yeah someone else.
Speaker 1: You know, when she told you this, were you like
Speaker 1: tell me more or were you just like okay? And
Speaker 1: then like, how did it get to the point where.
Speaker 2: She I just kind of going, well, I just kind
Speaker 2: of I'm sure. I was like, wait, how do you
Speaker 2: I was like, did you hear me say this? On
Speaker 2: a pot? I would ask questions, you know, I was
Speaker 2: asking questions and stuff like that. And this happened a
Speaker 2: long time ago now, so it's hard for me to
Speaker 2: really remember how the conversation went specifically, but I remember
Speaker 2: being skeptical for a good portion of the conversation until
Speaker 2: she said that thing about my right handoo, and then
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is now spooky, you know.
Speaker 2: And then once she said something that really landed with me,
Speaker 2: I kind of didn't want to talk anymore, which is
Speaker 2: so odd because it's like you're so curious, you know,
Speaker 2: and you sort of want to test their knowledge a
Speaker 2: little bit, of course, but then once they say something
Speaker 2: that's like for real, you're like, you know.
Speaker 1: Like, did you have to go on stage after that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh god, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's probably why she got fired. She kept going up
Speaker 1: to comedians.
Speaker 2: And sorry about what happened to your dad.
Speaker 1: People are crying, and then they have to go up
Speaker 1: on stage.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I honestly don't know if she got
Speaker 2: fired or if she left, but I know I never
Speaker 2: saw her again.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty fun one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wait, so does it happen other times? Though?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you tell us all of them?
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: So okay, it's been so long since I thought about
Speaker 2: any of this.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, is to bring out these memories.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So I know that at one point
Speaker 2: I I contacted a medium on my own to speak
Speaker 2: to them, right. I think it was after I met
Speaker 2: this girl, right, because I had never thought about reaching
Speaker 2: out to a medium before that, but I reached out
Speaker 2: to a medium and I was like, I want to
Speaker 2: hear what else is out there, what else they've got?
Speaker 2: And it was really a nothing burger call, Like I
Speaker 2: remember calling this medium and she started talking about how
Speaker 2: my sister was and almost compulsive right where like and
Speaker 2: on the other side in the spirit world, she wanted
Speaker 2: to experience things that we were experiencing because she died
Speaker 2: so young. So she was like, I'm I'm I'm hearing
Speaker 2: something about chocolate chip cookies. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got nothing for you. I don't know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. But she was like, something about chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 2: And wanting to eat like a whole thing of chocolate
Speaker 2: chip cookies. And I was like, okay, well yeah, cool,
Speaker 2: I'll make note of that. And then we hung up
Speaker 2: and I was like that sucked and I just wasted
Speaker 2: my money whatever, and.
Speaker 1: In there, I mean I've done.
Speaker 2: I put in a lot of time with these people,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I called my sister like the next day her
Speaker 2: twin to be like, oh, I you know, I contacted
Speaker 2: a medium to see if I could talk to Graham.
Speaker 2: And before I could mention any of this to her,
Speaker 2: my sister like uugh. She like picked up someone and
Speaker 2: was like oh and I was like what and she goes, nothing,
Speaker 2: I just had a shitty night last night. She's like,
Speaker 2: I came home from this party and I just like
Speaker 2: She's like, I was there, it was great, but I
Speaker 2: left the party early and I came home and I
Speaker 2: just ate a full batch, like a vat of chocolate
Speaker 2: chip cookies by myself, like before I could even like
Speaker 2: think about it. And now I woke up and I'm
Speaker 2: all puffy and I feel like shittah. And I was like,
Speaker 2: what do you talk? I was like, okay, I gotta
Speaker 2: pause you right there, because I literally spoke to a
Speaker 2: medium yesterday who was saying that Graham sometimes will like
Speaker 2: enter your body basically, and if you're ever overeating, it's
Speaker 2: because she wants to like experience like physical life again
Speaker 2: in some way. And I was like, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you didn't ask to hear this, but
Speaker 2: she did bring up a vat of chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And that was the first time I ever really scared
Speaker 2: my family with this stuff, you know, where I like
Speaker 2: specifically where I brought like metaphysical stuff to my family
Speaker 2: and they were like, please don't do that.
Speaker 1: What kind of like religion or beliefs.
Speaker 2: So we grew up like Episcopalian, which is like Catholicism
Speaker 2: light right, Okay, but I never I mean, like we
Speaker 2: stopped going to church when I was like nine, okay
Speaker 2: around then, and I just I don't really I wasn't
Speaker 2: like into church.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm very into like God and the concept of God
Speaker 2: and spirituality, and I kind of like take a little
Speaker 2: bit from everything. But we're not like a super religious family.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, But when it comes to like paranormal stuff,
Speaker 1: was that ever believed or talked about in the house.
Speaker 2: Well, my mom got sober when I was like seventeen,
Speaker 2: and I remember her getting kind of freaky with it,
Speaker 2: what do you mean, Like I remember her getting kind
Speaker 2: of like just into spirituality and into different like paranormal things.
Speaker 2: And then after my sister died, it was like really
Speaker 2: like she felt like her spirit everywhere and she felt
Speaker 2: like she would have these moments where like at the funeral,
Speaker 2: like a butterfly landed on my mom's hand and just
Speaker 2: stayed there the entire funeral, you know. So like that
Speaker 2: kind of thing started to like creep into my psychology
Speaker 2: where I started kind of going, oh, that's cool, that's interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: That's something I was raised with, is like the signs,
Speaker 1: like yes, like my grandfather's funeral, like the clouds parted
Speaker 1: and there was a rainbow. Yes, So that's him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm why I like it. Why not,
Speaker 2: I'm open to it.
Speaker 1: That's to me. I think maybe he came out as
Speaker 1: gay and the afterlife. Yeah he said, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's everything up here and then born this way, We're
Speaker 1: down for whatever up here.
Speaker 2: Yeah hell yeah yeah. I think a major way into
Speaker 2: spirituality for me was when I started getting into astrology.
Speaker 1: That was astrology. Okay. Astrology is something that at this
Speaker 1: point I should know about, but I just don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's a little more complicated then it's a
Speaker 2: tough thing to kind of pick up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like learning a language, and I just you know.
Speaker 2: It really is not that smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love people that know about it.
Speaker 2: What is your son?
Speaker 1: Well, I know I'm a Libra. I always forget what
Speaker 1: the other two are. I mean, I had you and
Speaker 1: your moon. Yeah. I've had several mulleted polyamorous people asked
Speaker 1: me what time I was born? And I have had
Speaker 1: that text message exchange with my mother, yes, many times. Right,
Speaker 1: And my mom will get a text and I'll say
Speaker 1: what time was I born? She goes for the last
Speaker 1: time nine pm? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then they take that information it's and you don't
Speaker 2: really care about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they say you're at this and you're
Speaker 1: with that, and right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of dropped astrology a little bit, to
Speaker 2: be honest, but it was a way in for me.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I still think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Listen. I think whatever people connect with great for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also feel like anytime you feel like things
Speaker 2: are outside of your control and you can lean on
Speaker 2: something else, go for it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Crystals you ever get into that.
Speaker 2: No. I like them. They're in my house, yeah, but
Speaker 2: I don't like lay on a floor and line them
Speaker 2: up on my you know, pelvis.
Speaker 1: I've done that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I oh get a.
Speaker 1: There's no returns at crystal stores.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is.
Speaker 1: Very unfortunate because I have made so many purchases at
Speaker 1: a crystal.
Speaker 2: Stone and they're so expensive.
Speaker 1: They're gorgeous. They don't do anything, in my opinion, but
Speaker 1: they're nice to me. It's like a nice reminders. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: To me, they're like spiritual organic script like skin cream.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I need the chemicals. It's not going to
Speaker 2: do anything unless it has chemicals in.
Speaker 1: It, right, right, right, right? I know, I know, but like,
Speaker 1: and that's the worst thing is if I'm on if
Speaker 1: I'm traveling someplace and I see a crystal storm, like
Speaker 1: let me just poke my head in, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I end up with this forty five pound hunk of like,
Speaker 1: you know, pink stone. Yeah, and now I'm stuck with it.
Speaker 2: Well, you have book ends for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: I've got to book ends, and a lot of on
Speaker 1: read books. Wait, do you have any other stories about psychics?
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with these. Okay, So I love hearing testimonials
Speaker 1: of psychics working, yes, but I also like hering when
Speaker 1: they don't work too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I okay, this isn't a psychic story, but it's
Speaker 2: what's coming to mind.
Speaker 1: Give me whatever.
Speaker 2: There's like a book called Spirit Babies okay that my
Speaker 2: friend told me about, and she told me about it
Speaker 2: after I'd had a miscarriage, and she was like, you
Speaker 2: have to read Spirit Babies because there's this idea that
Speaker 2: when you have a miscarriage, it's because like it's like
Speaker 2: the idea that spirits are sort of looming around, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, they're just out there just looking
Speaker 2: for just looking for a way in. And when a
Speaker 2: woman gets pregnant, or anyone a person gets pregnant, the
Speaker 2: spirit is sitting there going okay, is this the right
Speaker 2: body for me?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 2: Do they feel ready for this? That kind of a thing,
Speaker 2: you know, And that if you lose a pregnancy that
Speaker 2: the spirit was just like not yet and sort of
Speaker 2: dipped out. So that was like very comforting to me
Speaker 2: in a time when I felt very out of control
Speaker 2: and was kind of blaming myself for a lot of
Speaker 2: what was happening. And then I did IVF because while
Speaker 2: I was going through all of this, I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I even want to be pregnant.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Maybe I maybe a part of me isn't ready and
Speaker 2: that's why this isn't happening. And maybe if I freeze
Speaker 2: my embryos, then I can choose later when I feel ready.
Speaker 2: So I do IVF. I freeze all my embryos, and
Speaker 2: then two months later, I found out that I was
Speaker 2: pregnant after my husband and I had sex while I
Speaker 2: had COVID.
Speaker 1: So I was.
Speaker 2: So, I was like, okay, and I I remember seeing
Speaker 2: the positive pregnancy test and I'd seen many of these before,
Speaker 2: and I literally like saw it and had a conver.
Speaker 2: I like put both my hands on my stomach and
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know if. I was like, let
Speaker 2: me just try this. I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: who you are. I don't know, we don't know each other.
Speaker 2: I was like, but whoever you are, I really want
Speaker 2: you and I really want to be your mom and
Speaker 2: I'm so ready. And I had this like moment right,
Speaker 2: and that that ended up being my daughter. So I
Speaker 2: think about that a lot. That was like a really spooky,
Speaker 2: cool kind of moment where I felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: whenever I think about it, I sort of like get
Speaker 2: a little teary because I'm just like, oh, we had
Speaker 2: a conversation while you were still like in this spirit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I don't know, that's
Speaker 2: just I mean, it might not be real, it might not,
Speaker 2: but I but it's just one of those things that
Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell her about, which I'm sure
Speaker 2: she'll be like, Okay, whatever.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: No, I love that. That's like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that believe in that kind of and I think
Speaker 1: I do too. About like you know, we're spiritual beings
Speaker 1: having a human experience. We sort of it goes along
Speaker 1: with past lives and you kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: you're always like going to a different host. Yes, And
Speaker 1: like do you believe in that past life thing?
Speaker 2: I believe in reincarnation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you jump into the next one instantly or what, but
Speaker 1: you somehow get into the next one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I believe that for sure, And they they have.
Speaker 2: You know, there's like accounts of kids that have memories
Speaker 2: from lives that they're it's like, well, that didn't happen here,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? No, I love that, So
Speaker 2: that to me is really interesting. And I also I
Speaker 2: just really believe that if if on a scientific level,
Speaker 2: like if energy can't be created or destroyed, where does
Speaker 2: it go? It into somewhere else? And then it just
Speaker 2: keeps moving. It's always bouncing around. It's always moving.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you see if you've ever seen a dead body,
Speaker 2: have you seen a dead body?
Speaker 1: I have seen it.
Speaker 2: Seeing a dead body makes you realize, oh, this is
Speaker 2: like a car, this is like a skin suit. Yes,
Speaker 2: outside of like the blood and the organs and the
Speaker 2: you know, like the thing that animates all of it
Speaker 2: is like our energy.
Speaker 1: I also feel that way with like the Uncanny Valley,
Speaker 1: Like do you know about that term? Yes? Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: like you see like a mannequin and you look in
Speaker 1: the eyes and you're like that those eyes they don't
Speaker 1: have a soul, they don't have a spirit. It's just
Speaker 1: a dead eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And like when you see a dead body, it's like
Speaker 1: there's it's it's just a vessel. There's nothing, there's no
Speaker 1: more life there.
Speaker 2: It's not looking at ai art.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's different from when someone's sleeping, like if
Speaker 1: someone's sleeping and staying still, it's different. I think.
Speaker 2: Oh, first of all, they're way more attractive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wish we could, like if I do
Speaker 2: to talk to a spirit, if I ever like am
Speaker 2: able to talk to a ghost, I am going to say,
Speaker 2: who do I ask to do my makeup before I die?
Speaker 2: Because I need some rex because the funerals, the old,
Speaker 2: the wakes that I've been to, you know, we need
Speaker 2: to get some real makeup artistic.
Speaker 1: It can be rough, that's for sure. Yeah. No, I've
Speaker 1: I've seen some seen some mugs that they could have
Speaker 1: used the tutoriums like you didn't have to.
Speaker 2: Do them like that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for eat your feeling exactly. Well, let's do something
Speaker 1: fun here. I'll give you an option. Okay, I've got
Speaker 1: three options. You could choose from one of these, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about a little story of the multiple choice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: These are all like you know, real reported stories.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The first one is about witches being witches. Witches being
Speaker 1: witches Okay, Okay. The second one, it's a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: about Elvis is still alive and now he's somebody else.
Speaker 1: But people know.
Speaker 2: We've had enough.
Speaker 1: I don't usually do conspiracy theories, but sometimes they're so silly.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't even mean so I'm saying ough to Elvis.
Speaker 2: I'm like, we've had enough of that too.
Speaker 1: He's everywhere.
Speaker 2: Let's get lost already. You died years ago.
Speaker 1: Where do you go from? Austin Butler? I'm sorry. And
Speaker 1: then the third one is a haunted toys arr us
Speaker 1: from the eighties.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, in nineties. I'm going to go with toys
Speaker 2: r us. I'm just curious about this.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: First of all, I like that it's a period piece.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely a period piece. Okay, So this I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with. It is a haunted toys arrest that has
Speaker 1: since closed. It closed in twenty eight teen. It's located
Speaker 1: in sunny Vale, California, which is Bay Area, Okay, somewhere
Speaker 1: up there. It is now an ari I okay, which
Speaker 1: what is that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: An outdoors close?
Speaker 2: I think it's like a camping store.
Speaker 1: Camping store, Okay, so I don't now I tried to
Speaker 1: do some googling. I tried to even look at yell reviews, and.
Speaker 2: I don't know, really, I mean ari I would just
Speaker 2: assume their clientele doesn't believe in ghosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that doomsday?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't find any reviews or anyone reporting
Speaker 1: like a canteen flew across the room, somewhat set up
Speaker 1: a tent, a.
Speaker 2: Pair of skis fell from yeah, balcony.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't see anything like that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: But so basically, as the story goes, this toys or
Speaker 1: Russ was constructed in nineteen seventy. I'm getting my info
Speaker 1: from a mentalfloss dot com article.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we know it's legit.
Speaker 1: It's very much legit. Though, I will say I know
Speaker 1: of two TV shows that covered this in like the nineties.
Speaker 1: I believe it was nineties where they kind of went
Speaker 1: to the place and yeah, it was like she had
Speaker 1: a moment in the nineties. This toys resident Suddy Veil
Speaker 1: Okay employees claim to see dolls flying off the shelves
Speaker 1: and balls bouncing down the aisles when they were alone.
Speaker 1: They would feel a cold breeze on their back or
Speaker 1: hear a disembodied voice call their name. Some witnesses reported
Speaker 1: being touched by an invisible hand. Are you familiar God
Speaker 1: with Sylvia Brown?
Speaker 2: I know that name. Tell me who that.
Speaker 1: She's like, this iconic psychic that was like really in
Speaker 1: the media until the two thousand I believe less. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't take facts from me. But she wrote a bunch
Speaker 1: of books and she would do a lot of like
Speaker 1: TV appearances. Now, as I always say, I believe psychics
Speaker 1: are like comedians. They have good days and bad days. Sure,
Speaker 1: she unfortunately had a lot of bad days that have
Speaker 1: been recorded and compilated on YouTube of her on like
Speaker 1: Montel Williams being like, did your daughter like whatever? And
Speaker 1: then these people are like, no, I love that. It's great.
Speaker 1: But you know what she had confidence? Yea, And that
Speaker 1: is what I want from a psychic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So she went up in there at the Toys Arrus
Speaker 1: in Sunny Vale and it says she did a seance
Speaker 1: and during the rituals she claimed to sense the spirit
Speaker 1: of a Swedish preacher named Johnny Johnson. He worked on
Speaker 1: the land, not.
Speaker 2: A preacher and a toys r us.
Speaker 1: This is Johnny john Keep it out, keep it got
Speaker 1: here Johnson. So, Johnny Johnson before it was a toys
Speaker 1: r Us worked on that land and he was helping
Speaker 1: out on it was called the Murphy Farm in the
Speaker 1: eighteen eighties, and he fell in love with the family
Speaker 1: that lives There's daughter named Elizabeth. She didn't return his
Speaker 1: affections and ran off with a lawyer from the East Coast.
Speaker 1: Now Johnson, Johnny Johnson. He injured his leg chopping trees
Speaker 1: and slowly bled out, Okay, so.
Speaker 2: A preacher, what's he doing chopping trees?
Speaker 1: You know what, someone's got to chop them. But he
Speaker 1: uh so this is all just what she gathered from
Speaker 1: being in the barbie. So she's like, there's a preacher
Speaker 1: name Johnny Johnson here. I'm telling you right now. He
Speaker 1: chopped his leg.
Speaker 2: It was Johnny Johnson. So uh.
Speaker 1: She said that he is the most stubborn, ornery, argumentative
Speaker 1: ghost she's ever met. This is what she wrote in
Speaker 1: her book called The Other Side and Back Colon, a
Speaker 1: Psychics Guide to Our World and Beyond. Okay, And she
Speaker 1: also wrote, I've tried many times to explain to him
Speaker 1: that his lifetime as Johnny Johnson has ended. He finally
Speaker 1: got so tired of my nagging him about it that
Speaker 1: he gave me an ultimatum. He said, if you tell
Speaker 1: me I'm dead one more time, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: talk to you anymore. Sylvia had so she also would
Speaker 1: like she would go visit him frequently. She would go.
Speaker 1: Sylvia would go to the Toys Arrest and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm back Johnny, and.
Speaker 2: He's well, yeah, it's the only it's the only person
Speaker 2: who not even he would believe her she's talking to him.
Speaker 2: Was the cameras aren't rolling so exactly, Wow, he's her
Speaker 2: lucky ghost.
Speaker 1: Funny you say that, because I do actually have some
Speaker 1: footage of the camera rolling while she took a visit
Speaker 1: to see Johnny Jackson at the Toys r See this absolutely,
Speaker 1: can you show us this clip? This is from a
Speaker 1: TV show called That's Incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh God, look at this.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's good. This seemingly normal toy store is a
Speaker 1: popular place for local kids. Oh take me back, are
Speaker 1: those who claim that it's a favorite haunt of a
Speaker 1: very playful ghost.
Speaker 3: Could a ghost be lurking here in this irresistible playground? Yes?
Speaker 1: Ooh, skateboards, Oh it's a recreation. None of this is real.
Speaker 4: Zovia Brown believe she made contact with the ghost. I
Speaker 4: kept picking up this uh Joannie Johnston.
Speaker 1: Johnny Johnston.
Speaker 3: The toy store is locate Johnny that spot where this
Speaker 3: house once.
Speaker 2: He probably was like, if you don't start calling me Johnny.
Speaker 3: In the late eighteen hundreds by a prosperous settler named
Speaker 3: Martin Murphy. Further research revealed that a local circuit preacher
Speaker 3: sometimes lived on the Murphy farm.
Speaker 1: It appears that this is really I'd fallen in love.
Speaker 3: With Martin Murphy's daughter Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: Maybe they've cooperated.
Speaker 3: Even worked on the farm to pay for his room
Speaker 3: and board. Unfortunately, Elizabeth paid little attention to him. One day,
Speaker 3: while chopping wood, Johnson badly slashed his leg. Unable to
Speaker 3: move or get help, he bled to death.
Speaker 4: Leading to death is I've talked to doctors that I
Speaker 4: do work with, and that's really not that painful. It's
Speaker 4: sort of a slow tiredness. So he probably doesn't even
Speaker 4: realize he has did ok now.
Speaker 3: We wondered if our site kick, Sylvia Brown, could make
Speaker 3: contact with the ghosts that was loose in the store.
Speaker 3: The best way was to set up a seance. We
Speaker 3: hired professional.
Speaker 1: Photographer little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was in their cameras that the unbelievable
Speaker 3: appeared to happen.
Speaker 2: I love that everyone in the eighties had the exact
Speaker 2: same haircut.
Speaker 1: I know, men, women doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I'm really feeling now I think so.
Speaker 1: Now we're looking at her literally doing a very spookidly
Speaker 1: lit saan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just moving along to the right, trays heading out
Speaker 4: towards me.
Speaker 1: Now she believes she sees him. Now, this is what's crazy.
Speaker 1: They're snapping photos. They captured Yanni Johnson. Look at that
Speaker 1: he's looking down.
Speaker 3: At his feet.
Speaker 4: These photographs were taking Wait, it's that that light light
Speaker 4: talking to the John Johnson.
Speaker 3: The photograph in this proof sheet was taken with infrared film.
Speaker 4: At the same time the photograph on this.
Speaker 3: Proof sheet was taken with high speed films.
Speaker 4: The incredible thing.
Speaker 1: Is that whole man standing there.
Speaker 2: Figure standing at the back of the picture that does
Speaker 2: not show up in the photographs taken with high speed films.
Speaker 1: Oh, John, you can find just like you just go on.
Speaker 4: To the other side. You really are caught in a
Speaker 4: kind framework.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're claiming that they took the same photo
Speaker 1: two times, and they in one of two different cameras,
Speaker 1: and one camera captured that man standing there in shadow form.
Speaker 1: That's what they claim on a TV show called That's Incredible. Now,
Speaker 1: if it is, that is incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty amazing. It sucks to have been a
Speaker 2: psychic in the eighties and nineties, I do think, because
Speaker 2: people are much more open to what they do now.
Speaker 1: I think so. But also nowadays things get proven, Like
Speaker 1: everybody has access to research to be like you're lying,
Speaker 1: this isn't real, right or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I think like because of that, people are either
Speaker 2: going to believe you where they're not true. So it's
Speaker 2: like you're gonna find your people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Whereas back then, if somebody else didn't believe the same thing,
Speaker 2: you'd be like, yeah, no, me either, right, But now
Speaker 2: people will just go back and forth and be like, no,
Speaker 2: this is what but have you seen this?
Speaker 1: But have you seen this?
Speaker 2: You know? So I think people are kind of just
Speaker 2: choosing a belief system now, yeah that works for them.
Speaker 1: Well, I can see where you would believe in psychics
Speaker 1: after those stories that you told me those are pretty
Speaker 1: good psychics.
Speaker 2: I still but I still am like, we'll see, but
Speaker 2: it kind OF's like you can bomb.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're allowed silver. Sometimes you get a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes on TV and it's not it didn't go your way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Other times Yannisen shows up in a photo.
Speaker 2: Right, so you kind of like leaning against a bookshelf
Speaker 2: and he's doing he was doing a real like Marlboro
Speaker 2: Man post.
Speaker 1: He was trying to look hot for that daughter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was interested in her lawyer. Yeah, hey, can I
Speaker 1: show you a doll that is haunted that's currently for
Speaker 1: sale on eBay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time Wait how much?
Speaker 1: Hang on, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay,
Speaker 1: so frose Bud. Actually I forgot to write down how
Speaker 1: much this doll is going for? Ge how much is
Speaker 1: this doll going for?
Speaker 2: Well, if it's free, then I'm I'm like, oh that
Speaker 2: shit is haunted.
Speaker 1: Exactly because here's the thing, Like the price matters, I believe,
Speaker 1: because yeah, if it's free, if someone's just a couple bucks,
Speaker 1: that is, that's that's what we're looking for in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But all so, I don't know, I don't know a
Speaker 1: lot of these, you know. It's another thing I look
Speaker 1: at how many other haunted dolls are these people selling
Speaker 1: because it's an industry.
Speaker 2: Well, this one's going for seventy dollars.
Speaker 1: Seventy Okay, it's a little steep. Her name is Liz.
Speaker 1: And as always, if you want to see what this
Speaker 1: doll looks like, just go to the Instagram at ghosted
Speaker 1: by Ros and there's a new tab. Actually there's a
Speaker 1: new story highlight and it says dolls twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Gee can you show us Liz please? You got it, Ros, Liz,
Speaker 1: Liz the Haunted Door?
Speaker 2: Did you give it a name like Liz?
Speaker 1: And she looks like that?
Speaker 2: So what we got here is that's just an ugly doll.
Speaker 1: She could definitely use a wig.
Speaker 2: Just because a doll is ugly doesn't mean it's haunted.
Speaker 1: That is the umping off point for a lot of these,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, to see it ugly. And she's she's
Speaker 1: got a fabric.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got socks for socks for arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has I'm guessing a porcelain face, a little
Speaker 1: cracked maybe, Yeah. Her eyes are real close together. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cash Ptel that I don't know who that is. He's
Speaker 2: like he's in Trump's administration.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, and she's got the real tiny.
Speaker 2: Little yeah mouth. Yeah, her face is very small for
Speaker 2: her head.
Speaker 1: I don't like that mouth. That's a Mitch McConnell mouth
Speaker 1: with some lipstick on it and very teeny tiny little eyebrows. Anyway, Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing about all these dolls. They come with stories.
Speaker 2: Is that a bloodstain on her shirt?
Speaker 1: I assume. So here's what it says about Liz. It
Speaker 1: says meat Liz a lively and flirtatious spirit attached to
Speaker 1: this charming vintage doll. Liz's personality is as colorful as
Speaker 1: her story, making her an unforgettable companion for those seeking
Speaker 1: a playful and highly interactive spirit. Her sense of humor,
Speaker 1: love for vintage dolls, and artistic energy make her one
Speaker 1: of a kind. A little bit about her personality, She
Speaker 1: has a cheeky, flirtatious sense of humor and loves to
Speaker 1: make her presence known during.
Speaker 2: Our Does this mean is she going to get involved
Speaker 2: at night?
Speaker 1: It says during our first session through a spirit box,
Speaker 1: which is like a ghost hunting device, she introduced herself
Speaker 1: with a hilarious and bold comment stating, Okaya, now, hang
Speaker 1: on a second. They did that thing where you like, say,
Speaker 1: like a nod word, but you put asterisks. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so they put P and then four asterisks, so it
Speaker 1: says I love.
Speaker 2: Penis and I oh, I love penis.
Speaker 1: It says I love penis, and then there's another one
Speaker 1: a C and there's one, two, three, four, five asterisks.
Speaker 1: See oh SKay, nope, see you. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: keep spulling I love. Maybe she's bye, we don't know.
Speaker 1: She passed away at thirty. She mentioned attaching to this
Speaker 1: particular doll because of her love of vintage dolls, especially
Speaker 1: ones like this. She describes herself as artistic with dark brown,
Speaker 1: curly hair and striking blue eyes. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: She I'm sorry, but this personality would have attached to
Speaker 2: a hot doll.
Speaker 1: I know, like a hot bisexual.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that she would have chosen that, but
Speaker 1: it does say like her headline in the listing says
Speaker 1: haunted doll, extremely active, flirtatious, LGBTQ positive, So she's an ally.
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what she's into, but something with.
Speaker 2: It sounds like penis and cunts.
Speaker 1: You make up your mind on that one.
Speaker 2: I have a theory about Liz Okay. I feel like
Speaker 2: after years of inserting herself into probably several different polycules.
Speaker 2: She probably was a really hot doll and then you
Speaker 2: know it's just some wear and tear.
Speaker 1: She had been through it. Yeah, she's been through it
Speaker 1: all genders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just kind of like she's been around and she's.
Speaker 1: That lady would ask you what time you were born?
Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, the town bicycle, Liz, the town bicycle.
Speaker 1: Everybody gets a ride. She's that bird scooter. Can I
Speaker 1: play some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, please, it's time for EVP or ev please okay.
Speaker 1: The term EVP it stands for Electronic Voice phenomenal. So
Speaker 1: this is anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a ghost.
Speaker 2: I've been ghosts. I've been ghost hunting before.
Speaker 1: Ross, whoa, I just lost my headphones. Why didn't we
Speaker 1: start with that.
Speaker 2: I've been ghost hunting. I went with my husband when
Speaker 2: we were in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: We went ghost Tell me all of that and then
Speaker 1: we'll get to the ghost.
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't New Orleans, maybe it was North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I'd have to ask him, but we did go on
Speaker 2: a ghost tour. Yeah. Honestly, I was very distracted because
Speaker 2: the guy who was running the ghost tour. He would
Speaker 2: not stop talking about how his son used to go
Speaker 2: on the ghost tour with him and now he's too embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Oh that man and so yeah, and he had a
Speaker 2: lot of rivalries with other.
Speaker 1: Ghost tours and it gets competitive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, you know, they don't have the
Speaker 2: same equipment I have, but they think but they got
Speaker 2: this massive following and you know, so and so I
Speaker 2: was sort of like, well, now it just feels like
Speaker 2: we're sort of supporting a small business ghost hunter whose
Speaker 2: son wants nothing to do with him. And I can't
Speaker 2: pay attention to the stories because I want to hear
Speaker 2: more about his exactly. So that's probably why we didn't
Speaker 2: start there. Oh but anyways, I know what an EVP.
Speaker 1: Is, Okay, Okay, Yeah, because yeah, I've I've definitely gone
Speaker 1: on a lot of tours and looked into a lot
Speaker 1: of them. And you go to these websites and a
Speaker 1: lot of times it'll say the only one in town
Speaker 1: that has piece of equipment, yeah, or the only one
Speaker 1: with access to this place. You know, these people are
Speaker 1: no joke. They want to be the best one in town,
Speaker 1: so their sons will talk to them. Okay, So this
Speaker 1: first one is from CC the Huntress on YouTube. CC
Speaker 1: recorded this at the Black Swan Inn, which is in Tilton,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, New Hampshire. What is this ghost saying? Rosebud? Okay?
Speaker 2: Can I bud?
Speaker 1: Sure? I mean it's clear as day?
Speaker 2: That's clear as day to you?
Speaker 3: No it is not.
Speaker 1: But okay, wait, let me just really tune in here.
Speaker 2: Okay, that literally sounds like someone on the street going
Speaker 2: comedy show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're barking, you want to come to the comedy club.
Speaker 1: We got people from Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: You can't think of a sadd way to die.
Speaker 1: Oh what if it's the ghost of that of one
Speaker 1: of those flyer people. Well, that is not what CC
Speaker 1: the Huntress believes.
Speaker 2: What did she say?
Speaker 1: I'll give you abc D. Did CC think it was
Speaker 1: a wait? I need to hear it one more time
Speaker 1: before key's options? Okay, did CC think it was a
Speaker 1: that song? Ain't shit? B they're coming quick? C that's
Speaker 1: how they sit? Or D I got a ship.
Speaker 2: I think it's that's how they sit, exactly.
Speaker 1: What CC believes. I also think it could be I
Speaker 1: got a shit. Yeah, Okay, here's one more. This one
Speaker 1: was posted by ghosts Nat seventy one sixty seven on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and it has had a place called the Black Dog
Speaker 1: Wine Company in Oakdale, Pennsylvania. Why is it saying.
Speaker 2: Get me out of Oakdale?
Speaker 1: I could see that oak Well, it's not what ghosts
Speaker 1: Ghosts NAT seventy one sixty seven thought. Did they think
Speaker 1: it was a no I'm a bad kid? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: b don't write a bad check? C Oh, that's some bullshit?
Speaker 1: Or d are you sure you don't want to come
Speaker 1: to the comedy show? I can't we play it again?
Speaker 2: Don't write a bad check?
Speaker 1: They believe it is saying no, I'm a bad kid.
Speaker 2: Oh, now I hear that.
Speaker 1: I could hear bad check.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean something like that. I would. I could
Speaker 2: hear no I'm a bad kid after having heard it after.
Speaker 1: But that's usually how it goes. But it's like to
Speaker 1: pull it out of thin air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's really really difficult to
Speaker 2: break these things down.
Speaker 1: Let's do one last thing.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of breaking things down, I'm curious your thoughts. I'm
Speaker 1: just a bunch of paranormal stuff and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: bits some out it. Yeah, and you tell me if
Speaker 1: you've got a thought about it if you got a
Speaker 1: story about I don't know what it inspires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bigfoot bullshit? Mm hmmm, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: so it doesn't exist. I think it's you know, people
Speaker 2: that spend a lot of time in the woods. Ari
Speaker 2: I are lonely, Yes, ari I. I think Bigfoot is
Speaker 2: people who take alpha brains like astrology.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not a I don't like the
Speaker 1: great outdoors, so I'm not a big I don't have
Speaker 1: much interest in going to look for Bigfoot. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I wish all of those people.
Speaker 2: Well I do too, and also got enough to worry
Speaker 2: about your living in the woods. You know there's bears
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, maybe just focus on the real threats exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a lot of this stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: there's bigger issues than invisible people.
Speaker 2: For sure, But that's just fun and games Bigfoot when
Speaker 2: you're looking for tracks and stuff, I don't want to
Speaker 2: have to hike.
Speaker 1: But also it's like, what if we met Bigfoot and
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know, like a bro that like
Speaker 1: just a really toxic masculine you know, It's like I
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, there's a million ways it could be awful. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you're spending a lot of time looking for something
Speaker 1: that could be very disappointing. Right, Okay, what about wigi boards?
Speaker 2: I just like there's something about them that really makes
Speaker 2: me feel happy and really joyous. Yeah, because it reminds
Speaker 2: me of like spooky sleepovers.
Speaker 1: And so you played it before?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember like doing like a Oiji
Speaker 2: board with a candle and someone spranging some perfume and
Speaker 2: the candle going up and all of us being like,
Speaker 2: you know, so, I just it's to me real or
Speaker 2: not doesn't matter. Creates incredible memories, yes, and it honestly
Speaker 2: is the purpose of what I think Ouigi board, whether
Speaker 2: it brings in ghosts or not, you do connect. You
Speaker 2: make a connection over a wigi board, whether it's with
Speaker 2: a living or dead spirit. Right, So to me, that's valid.
Speaker 1: It gives the kids something to do to focus on
Speaker 1: and stay away from their screens. Yeah, take a break
Speaker 1: from the iPad and go talk to some demens. Kids
Speaker 1: with a demon.
Speaker 2: Connect with your own imagination.
Speaker 1: What about demons? Is that something that you subscribe?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely do.
Speaker 1: In what sense? Like, do you think that there's like
Speaker 1: a devil?
Speaker 2: I think there's a devil in Yeah, in the sense
Speaker 2: that like there are demonicsits, and I think they do
Speaker 2: attach themselves to us. And I think that they show
Speaker 2: themselves in either the form of like addiction or like
Speaker 2: spiritual malaise. Yeah. I just there's something about them that
Speaker 2: I really do believe in. I think that's why The
Speaker 2: Exorcist is such a scary movie because to me, whether
Speaker 2: it's Satan or the devil, if the idea that something
Speaker 2: can enter your body and take over your mind is
Speaker 2: very real, Yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times it's kind of personified as you know, some kind
Speaker 1: of horned creature. But it's like or could it just
Speaker 1: be bad energy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you just got like too famous, too fast,
Speaker 2: and now you're a demon.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I couldn't help it. Everyone just wanted me. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do one last one.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What about UFOs?
Speaker 2: UFOs? I don't I know that they exist because they
Speaker 2: it's been confirmed. Right. Do I believe that the drones
Speaker 2: over New Jersey were UFOs?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Do you think aliens would want to go to New Jersey?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, absolutely not. But also maybe they just needed
Speaker 2: like a bunch of people that like to gossip a lot,
Speaker 2: you know, and I think that New Jersey people are
Speaker 2: they do like to talk.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know, you get some chatter going.
Speaker 1: There's that kind of old joke about like how foreign
Speaker 1: countries get our media later, you know, so like certain
Speaker 1: things are like brand new to them, but it's like
Speaker 1: it's from years ago. Yes, I wonder if they like
Speaker 1: recently got the Sopranos and there they wanted to go
Speaker 1: see where it was shot. You know, it probably takes
Speaker 1: a while to get up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, what is gabba ghoul?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, we don't know how it ended. It
Speaker 1: just went black. Yeah, we want to go down there and.
Speaker 2: See you see if he's okay, Yeah, that's a really
Speaker 2: good theory.
Speaker 1: That's that's my theory. Okay. But do you think that
Speaker 1: they are like beings that live on another planet or.
Speaker 2: I don't see why not? Yeah, I don't see. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't see why not. I think out of all
Speaker 2: the things that we've talked about today, that makes the
Speaker 2: most sense.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's the most like physical like tangible or
Speaker 1: it's something like the idea of people living on a
Speaker 1: planet I mean we do, so why can't.
Speaker 2: Why couldn't that? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think
Speaker 2: obviously that they are people. I think people are We're
Speaker 2: our own thing, you know what I mean. Like, there's
Speaker 2: not people living in the ocean or are there? Well,
Speaker 2: there could be, but I don't want to see them.
Speaker 2: Very well, I don't want to see I don't want
Speaker 2: to see them. We only don't even like the look
Speaker 2: of fish. So I don't want to see a person.
Speaker 1: Who looks like a fish, yeah, and like lives with
Speaker 1: the fishes and acts like a fish. Yeah, well that's mermaids.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people, A lot of people
Speaker 1: come back and they say, you know, I was out
Speaker 1: there and I saw a mermaid and she was hideous.
Speaker 1: That's what they say. All other times, doll, that makes sense,
Speaker 1: they say, like it wasn't cute, Like no, get that
Speaker 1: idea out of your head. This thing was like fish head, yes,
Speaker 1: with like lady legs or I actually I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yeah.
Speaker 2: I could see like a fish with tits. Okay, that's hot, yeah,
Speaker 2: but not hot tits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that very well could be like some some nasty fish.
Speaker 2: With ye a movie where the guy fucked the fish.
Speaker 1: Which one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say, like, didn't it win
Speaker 2: an oscar?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The shape of water?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that seems to me like what what a
Speaker 2: mermaid would look like for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a creature from the Black Lagoon. Yeah, kind
Speaker 1: of a thing. I don't know. I don't find that
Speaker 1: is scary because I'm like, come on.
Speaker 2: Land, bitch, Yeah, come up here, get up here.
Speaker 1: I'm not going down there. Come up here, and let's
Speaker 1: see how long you can last. I'll put one arm
Speaker 1: behind my back, let's go, let's fight.
Speaker 2: Let's do it on my territory, on my turf.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about sharks too. Sharks are like
Speaker 1: one of my biggest fears.
Speaker 2: But if you saw one on land, oh, come over here, bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But like, but if I'm in.
Speaker 2: There, I don't trust anything in there.
Speaker 1: I don't do you go in the ocean, I don't
Speaker 1: even eat seafood. I don't either.
Speaker 2: I don't want anything down there. That's I don't want
Speaker 2: to eat eat food from Mars, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to eat anything from the from the water.
Speaker 1: It's I you know, this is not a completely accurate statement,
Speaker 1: but both up and in the ocean are like both
Speaker 1: very little discovered. We don't know exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't even like it just on
Speaker 2: a food based level. I don't like that fish look
Speaker 2: the exact same dead as they do alive.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I'm saying, because I don't have
Speaker 1: souls to bring it back to the corpses.
Speaker 2: Yuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well anyway, thanks for doing that. I love you.
Speaker 1: This is really fun. So do you have you do
Speaker 1: you have anything you want to tell us?
Speaker 2: You know, do I have anything booked? Am I booked?
Speaker 4: And you?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Do you want us to where do you want us
Speaker 1: to follow?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: Follow me at rosebud Baker on tic tac Instagram YouTube.
Speaker 2: I have a special coming out on Netflix February eighteenth.
Speaker 1: That's insane.
Speaker 2: Congrat you. It's called The mother Load.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's very exciting. And it's an hour that
Speaker 2: I shot pregnant and then a year later after I'd
Speaker 2: had the baby, and it's mixed together into one hour.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. So one year later you okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: It talks about like miscarriage, IVF, all the all that shit,
Speaker 2: and spirit babies and spirit babies a little bit there's
Speaker 2: like nods to it, but I don't, you know, it's
Speaker 2: a comedy club audience.
Speaker 1: Sure, but yeah, I'm really really exciting. Congrats, thank you.
Speaker 1: And then SNL. Honestly, I think people need to watch
Speaker 1: that episode about the writers at SNL on Peacock on Peacock,
Speaker 1: what do you know what it's called. It's I don't
Speaker 1: SNL documentary beyond SNL something it's called. That's incredible. Go
Speaker 1: watch it. Just go to Peacock and type in the
Speaker 1: SNL documentary about writers and then you'll see Rosebud running
Speaker 1: from the cameras.
Speaker 2: But turning around and running.
Speaker 1: But it's like, people don't necessarily go, oh my god.
Speaker 1: The person that wrote this sketch is like, you know,
Speaker 1: I just I want people to you know. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: don't always know that those are written by people, right,
Speaker 1: and those jokes are very funny. Yeah, anyway, thanks for doing.
Speaker 2: This, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: This was so fun, bless you. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: to Rosebud, and make sure you check out Rosebud's new
Speaker 1: Netflix comedy special mother Load on the eighteenth of February. God,
Speaker 1: this podcast is really it's a good one. It's good.
Speaker 1: I like this podcast. I like it a lot, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for listening and tell everyone you know
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Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
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Speaker 1: is the Alarm Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the Petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support from the
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Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced
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