WEBVTT - Rosebud Baker Was Accosted by a Medium

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<v Speaker 1>What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I los Nandas. Please Hey boo, it's me

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<v Speaker 1>Roz and welcome to Bostood by Roz Hernandez, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to talk to rosebud Baker, who is such

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<v Speaker 1>a hilarious comedian. She is a writer on SNL and

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<v Speaker 1>she has a new Netflix special coming out called mother Load.

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<v Speaker 1>Look out for that. She is such a good comedian

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<v Speaker 1>and she has some stories. Oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like perfect episode, I really think. So it's a great

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<v Speaker 1>one because we got some good stories, we get a

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<v Speaker 1>little real and we laugh. What Morgage ask for? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of laughter, something that I love to make people do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, constantly I'm doing comedy whether you realize

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. I am working on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>dates right now, and I'm trying. I'm trying to get everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to all fifty states in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and trust me, I want to go beyond America to

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, I wouldn't mind a little break. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working on dates. So make sure you're paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>my social media. Everything's on Instagram at ros Hernandez. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of being a comedian, I am nominated for a

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<v Speaker 1>queert Award, which is a great honor. It's a great

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for it every single day, and that voting

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<v Speaker 1>is open until February twenty fifth on Queer Tea's website.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're unsure how to spell it or whatever, just

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<v Speaker 1>go to my link tree, which we'll have a link

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<v Speaker 1>to it there so I can say I'm an award

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<v Speaker 1>winning comedian and the people I'm up against, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>some of my biggest enemies. Actually, I think a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of people that have been on the show, probably I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, vote for me, We're vote for them, They're

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<v Speaker 1>all great whatever, whatever, Just you know, vote, very very important. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you a story real quick. This one

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<v Speaker 1>comes from a listener named Emma Emirates. A few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend and I moved into a house in the

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<v Speaker 1>historic district of a mountain town in Colorado. Built in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ten, the house came with its own piece of history,

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<v Speaker 1>a hauntingly beautiful photo of the original owner's three sons,

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<v Speaker 1>which still hangs in our hallway. At first we thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a quirky keepsake, but when we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>put the photo away, the house seemed to retaliate. It

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<v Speaker 1>started subtly. Fire alarms blared when we stood underneath them

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<v Speaker 1>without cause. We called a maintenance professional to check them out,

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<v Speaker 1>but they couldn't find anything wrong. Then came the voices

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<v Speaker 1>and whistles. Whispers and faint whistling would float up from downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd go to check it out, but no one was

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<v Speaker 1>ever there. Friends began to notice strange things too. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them watched our storm door open and close repeatedly,

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<v Speaker 1>as if an unseen hand was testing it. She stepped

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<v Speaker 1>outside to check for wind, but the air was completely still.

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<v Speaker 1>The most unsettling moment happened while I was sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the porch reading. I heard the unmistakable sound of footsteps

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<v Speaker 1>stomping through the living room. Thinking it was our dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was the only one home, I went to check,

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<v Speaker 1>only to find him asleep at my feet. Safe to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I ran outside to collect myself for a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there was the furnace. Every summer, we'd turn off

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<v Speaker 1>the heat for the season as fall approached. One October,

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<v Speaker 1>our maintenance guy came to switch it back on. A

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<v Speaker 1>Few mornings later, I woke up to a bone shilling house.

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<v Speaker 1>It was barely fifty degrees inside. We called him back

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<v Speaker 1>and he was visibly annoyed. He says, who keeps turning

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<v Speaker 1>the furdus off? My boyfriend and I just stared at

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Neither of us even knew how to access

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<v Speaker 1>the switch. It was always handled by the landlord. He

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<v Speaker 1>told us this was the second time someone had physically

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<v Speaker 1>flipped the lever to the off position. It's not easy

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<v Speaker 1>to do, he said, it takes some effort. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to padlock the switch to keep it from

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<v Speaker 1>being tampered with. Strange occurrences continued until I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>follow some advice I heard on Living for the Dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I was on that show. One night.

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<v Speaker 1>I stood in the living room, sage in hand, fed

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<v Speaker 1>up as fuck, and I said, I see you. I

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<v Speaker 1>respect your space, but I am not okay okay with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to take care of your home, and I

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<v Speaker 1>need you to leave us alone. That same night, I

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<v Speaker 1>also agreed to put the photo of the boys back

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<v Speaker 1>on display as long as they left us alone. Since then,

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<v Speaker 1>the house has been quiet, eerily so, and every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then I catch myself glancing at that old photo

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<v Speaker 1>completely weirded out. Thank you, Emma God. I love a

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<v Speaker 1>good ghost story. All right, let's talk to the hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>rosebud Baker and with the show. Rosebud Roz, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>being here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a New Yorker.

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on a second, you work at us at all?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just watching that documentary and I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was running from the cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see me running that Peacock documentary? Which was great?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I put it on and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are they gonna like go from the beginning?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Focuses on, like there's an episode just about the writers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I saw you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent the entire year last year hiding from that

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<v Speaker 2>camera crew. I was like, I'm not answering questions about

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<v Speaker 2>my job that I currently have on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems stressful.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm not doing this. This feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a trap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, every time I have an SNL person here,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked them if thirty Rock is haunted, they always say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say haunted, Uh, by my own personal demons,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say. I would say people's personal demons are enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if a ghost walked into thirty Rock, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, it feels a little crowded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, They're like, take me to a farmhouse in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere so I can possess it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can really make an impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, this is too much. Too many personalities, too

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<v Speaker 1>much conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's too many internal conversations happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know that's why I wonder when it's completely quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody there. I bet you a security guard has

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<v Speaker 1>got a story. Oh yeah, you know, somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the people that are like, shit, well I got

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<v Speaker 1>a deadline, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, somebody. I mean, I wonder if thirty Rock

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<v Speaker 2>has ever been completely quiet, To be honest, that's really

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<v Speaker 2>the question, because I've never seen that building quiet, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm there until early morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. You know I have so much respect for people

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<v Speaker 1>that are you're you're doing this season right? Yes? Yes, good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun. It's fun. I think honestly, I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of why it's so good is that I'm no longer

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<v Speaker 2>writing on the sketch side. Okay, I moved over to

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<v Speaker 2>weekend updates love it, which I God bless the sketch writers.

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<v Speaker 2>They are so good to what they do. I spent

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<v Speaker 2>three years in the sketch writing, and I still have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea how it works. Like I had sketches on

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know what I'm doing here, and then

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<v Speaker 2>over the summer I reached out and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't there's no real reason for me to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the sketch side. I write single jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right right. That's that's how I feel, too, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I like a joke, yes, and I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>some good ones these days on that show. Congratulations, good job,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Gee pushes the envelope, which I appreciate in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that's not like the gross way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like still fun walk in that line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels fun and funny and it's not it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just like That's what I love about it is

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<v Speaker 2>it's not Edgy just for Edgy's sake, you know, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job, thank you. Hey, what about ghosts?

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<v Speaker 2>What about ghosts?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you Okay? Here's the annoying thing I say almost

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<v Speaker 1>every single damn episode. We never hear New York ghost

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<v Speaker 1>stories ever. Oh from my guests.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, New York is a very haunted city.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why these people they come on my show,

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<v Speaker 1>they never have a ghost Like I'll have people that

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<v Speaker 1>live in New York or spend time in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>but their stories will not be from actual New York City, right,

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while, but not enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for my liking, I have some very intense I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>most of my experience with like the metaphysical is through mediums.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, mediums who have literally accosted me on the

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<v Speaker 2>street where like apparently I'm dripping with corpses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they just come up to you and they go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, I have to tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>They literally will be like, I'm I'm so sorry about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to your friend, or they'll literally say exactly

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<v Speaker 2>different people that I know who have died.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times does this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Millions? Are you kidding me? I are you serious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>just part of my life. But death has been a

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<v Speaker 2>major theme.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>So I lost my sister years years ago, twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've heard you talk about yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I have, and then i'm I'm a recovering alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have any ton of friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yeah in two days, ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, congratulations, that's amazing. Yeah. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we know a lot of people who die. Yeah, sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>but tons of my friends gone gone with the wind.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm comics, so those comics they die, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>die young. And so yeah, I'm just I just really

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<v Speaker 2>am riddled with dead bodies. Apparently they're just following me around.

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<v Speaker 2>They like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what's funny that I always say, my dead

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<v Speaker 1>people not interested? So it's a compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean they're not They're not around like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You've talked to mediums and they they say goodbye, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the end of the story. I go, no further comments,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, weird, no comment. I go to psychics. I

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<v Speaker 1>accost psychics. I'm the opposite. I go up to them

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<v Speaker 1>and say, is there a dead body around me and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, I'm sorry, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no right, and you're like, can you make one up.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, just say something. Did you have a grandma that

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<v Speaker 1>does just say something? Just make it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I have had them where they're like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing some like they start describing someone. I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not I never Yeah, I don't talk to people that

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<v Speaker 1>look like that. Right, Okay, So give me an example

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<v Speaker 1>of one of these stories. Somebody comes up to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was one time I was at a comedy club.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a New York comedy club, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a girl that was working there who came up and

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<v Speaker 2>was like like immediately I saw her and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, is this someone that I met while

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<v Speaker 2>I was drinking? Who I like, did something terrible to

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Because the way that she

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<v Speaker 2>reacted to me was like she remembered something that I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in the audience, and you really.

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<v Speaker 2>She came back in the green room. I'd never seen

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<v Speaker 2>her in the club before. She comes back in the

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<v Speaker 2>green room to bring somebody a drink, and she saw

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<v Speaker 2>me and she went like like she had like a

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<v Speaker 2>visceral physical reaction to me, and I was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, okay, well, I'll introduce myself to her

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe i'll like remember something. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>drink a lot, you're like maybe I blacked out, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really like said something horrible or did something terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I had that feeling of like, oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, let me just introduce myself and

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<v Speaker 2>see if I can put the pieces together here. And

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<v Speaker 2>she shook my hand, but she like didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>touch me, and I was like, I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry. I was like, are you okay? Because she

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed fucked up, and so I asked if she

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<v Speaker 2>was all right and she was like, I I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I need a second. She like left, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she came back and she was like, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you this. I'm I'm so sorry about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to your sister. And I was like, oh, did

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<v Speaker 2>you have did you have a family member where it

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<v Speaker 2>happened to them as well or something, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? And she was like, no, we've never met before.

0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know you, but I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry about what happened to your sister. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a medium and I've just kind of started to

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<v Speaker 2>open myself up to this. And at this point I'm going, Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's kind of like, it's giving scam artist.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it on podcasts. I've heard you talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you have, I have. Oh you're saying that she

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<v Speaker 2>she listened to That's what I was thinking, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>then she started to describe things about it that no

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<v Speaker 2>one had heard and.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knew that's that's how you do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, this is fucked. Like she

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<v Speaker 2>knew her middle name, she knew how this had happened

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<v Speaker 2>to her, like the details of it and how she

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<v Speaker 2>had gotten to the hospital, and how like the way

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<v Speaker 2>that my mom had told me and stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 2>she started talking about like things that she wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>say and how she always she was like, she's always

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<v Speaker 2>on your right arm. And it's so funny that she

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<v Speaker 2>because she mentioned that. But I had always had these

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<v Speaker 2>moments where I was like waiting for the subway, or

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<v Speaker 2>I was like falling or something, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>something from my right hand like bring me back, really

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that I had never mentioned out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it made me feel insane, right, And that was

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<v Speaker 2>when I went, Okay, this feels like legit, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this feels like she knows what she's talking about. The

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<v Speaker 2>weird thing then, was that I never saw her at

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<v Speaker 2>the club again, Like she wasn't real. Other people were there,

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<v Speaker 2>they saw this conversation happen, but I never saw her

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<v Speaker 2>again at the club. So I was like, this feels

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<v Speaker 2>like a weird uh. I mean, maybe she had a

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<v Speaker 2>psychotic break. I have no idea, but she wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>like a messenger. So yeah, it felt like a messenger.

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<v Speaker 2>And it felt like like I had an explanation for

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<v Speaker 2>why I always felt this feeling, this weird feeling, like

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<v Speaker 2>as if I was holding someone's hand while I was

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<v Speaker 2>like waiting for the subway or waiting for a bus,

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<v Speaker 2>or like I would just feel sometimes at night, I

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<v Speaker 2>would feel like someone was holding my hand while I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to sleep, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>so that kind of felt like, oh, this feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a message, yeah someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when she told you this, were you like

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<v Speaker 1>tell me more or were you just like okay? And

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<v Speaker 1>then like, how did it get to the point where.

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<v Speaker 2>She I just kind of going, well, I just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I'm sure. I was like, wait, how do you

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I was like, did you hear me say this? On

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<v Speaker 2>a pot? I would ask questions, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>asking questions and stuff like that. And this happened a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago now, so it's hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>really remember how the conversation went specifically, but I remember

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<v Speaker 2>being skeptical for a good portion of the conversation until

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<v Speaker 2>she said that thing about my right handoo, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, this is now spooky, you know.

0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.159
<v Speaker 2>And then once she said something that really landed with me,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of didn't want to talk anymore, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so odd because it's like you're so curious, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and you sort of want to test their knowledge a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, of course, but then once they say something

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<v Speaker 2>that's like for real, you're like, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, did you have to go on stage after that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Oh god, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably why she got fired. She kept going up

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<v Speaker 1>to comedians.

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<v Speaker 2>And sorry about what happened to your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>People are crying, and then they have to go up

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<v Speaker 1>on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I honestly don't know if she got

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<v Speaker 2>fired or if she left, but I know I never

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<v Speaker 2>saw her again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty fun one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so does it happen other times? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, can you tell us all of them?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, it's been so long since I thought about

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<v Speaker 2>any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, is to bring out these memories.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, So I know that at one point

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<v Speaker 2>I I contacted a medium on my own to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to them, right. I think it was after I met

0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.240
<v Speaker 2>this girl, right, because I had never thought about reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out to a medium before that, but I reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to a medium and I was like, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear what else is out there, what else they've got?

0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.199
<v Speaker 2>And it was really a nothing burger call, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember calling this medium and she started talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>my sister was and almost compulsive right where like and

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side in the spirit world, she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to experience things that we were experiencing because she died

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<v Speaker 2>so young. So she was like, I'm I'm I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 2>something about chocolate chip cookies. And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got nothing for you. I don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. But she was like, something about chocolate chip cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>And wanting to eat like a whole thing of chocolate

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<v Speaker 2>chip cookies. And I was like, okay, well yeah, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make note of that. And then we hung up

0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.439
<v Speaker 2>and I was like that sucked and I just wasted

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<v Speaker 2>my money whatever, and.

0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.560
<v Speaker 1>In there, I mean I've done.

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<v Speaker 2>I put in a lot of time with these people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I called my sister like the next day her

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<v Speaker 2>twin to be like, oh, I you know, I contacted

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<v Speaker 2>a medium to see if I could talk to Graham.

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<v Speaker 2>And before I could mention any of this to her,

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<v Speaker 2>my sister like uugh. She like picked up someone and

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<v Speaker 2>was like oh and I was like what and she goes, nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>I just had a shitty night last night. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I came home from this party and I just like

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I was there, it was great, but I

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<v Speaker 2>left the party early and I came home and I

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<v Speaker 2>just ate a full batch, like a vat of chocolate

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<v Speaker 2>chip cookies by myself, like before I could even like

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<v Speaker 2>think about it. And now I woke up and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all puffy and I feel like shittah. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you talk? I was like, okay, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>pause you right there, because I literally spoke to a

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<v Speaker 2>medium yesterday who was saying that Graham sometimes will like

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<v Speaker 2>enter your body basically, and if you're ever overeating, it's

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 2>because she wants to like experience like physical life again

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<v Speaker 2>in some way. And I was like, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry you didn't ask to hear this, but

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<v Speaker 2>she did bring up a vat of chocolate chip cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the first time I ever really scared

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<v Speaker 2>my family with this stuff, you know, where I like

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<v Speaker 2>specifically where I brought like metaphysical stuff to my family

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like, please don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of like religion or beliefs.

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<v Speaker 2>So we grew up like Episcopalian, which is like Catholicism

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<v Speaker 2>light right, Okay, but I never I mean, like we

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<v Speaker 2>stopped going to church when I was like nine, okay

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 2>around then, and I just I don't really I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like into church.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very into like God and the concept of God

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<v Speaker 2>and spirituality, and I kind of like take a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit from everything. But we're not like a super religious family.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah, But when it comes to like paranormal stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>was that ever believed or talked about in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my mom got sober when I was like seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember her getting kind of freaky with it,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean, Like I remember her getting kind

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 2>of like just into spirituality and into different like paranormal things.

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<v Speaker 2>And then after my sister died, it was like really

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:14.159
<v Speaker 2>like she felt like her spirit everywhere and she felt

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<v Speaker 2>like she would have these moments where like at the funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>like a butterfly landed on my mom's hand and just

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:24.040
<v Speaker 2>stayed there the entire funeral, you know. So like that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing started to like creep into my psychology

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 2>where I started kind of going, oh, that's cool, that's interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something I was raised with, is like the signs,

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<v Speaker 1>like yes, like my grandfather's funeral, like the clouds parted

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and there was a rainbow. Yes, So that's him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm why I like it. Why not,

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm open to it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's to me. I think maybe he came out as

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<v Speaker 1>gay and the afterlife. Yeah he said, you know what,

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:57.240
<v Speaker 1>it's everything up here and then born this way, We're

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 1>down for whatever up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah hell yeah yeah. I think a major way into

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.439
<v Speaker 2>spirituality for me was when I started getting into astrology.

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>That was astrology. Okay. Astrology is something that at this

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>point I should know about, but I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but it's a little more complicated then it's a

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>tough thing to kind of pick up.

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like learning a language, and I just you know.

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>It really is not that smart.

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I love people that know about it.

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 2>What is your son?

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I know I'm a Libra. I always forget what

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the other two are. I mean, I had you and

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>your moon. Yeah. I've had several mulleted polyamorous people asked

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<v Speaker 1>me what time I was born? And I have had

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<v Speaker 1>that text message exchange with my mother, yes, many times. Right,

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>And my mom will get a text and I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>what time was I born? She goes for the last

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<v Speaker 1>time nine pm? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 2>And then they take that information it's and you don't

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 2>really care about it.

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they say you're at this and you're

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>with that, and right.

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I kind of dropped astrology a little bit, to

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 2>be honest, but it was a way in for me.

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I still think it's interesting.

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Listen. I think whatever people connect with great for them.

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I also feel like anytime you feel like things

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.679
<v Speaker 2>are outside of your control and you can lean on

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:31.959
<v Speaker 2>something else, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. Crystals you ever get into that.

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 2>No. I like them. They're in my house, yeah, but

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't like lay on a floor and line them

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 2>up on my you know, pelvis.

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I've done that.

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I oh get a.

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>There's no returns at crystal stores.

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is.

0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Very unfortunate because I have made so many purchases at

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 1>a crystal.

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Stone and they're so expensive.

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>They're gorgeous. They don't do anything, in my opinion, but

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>they're nice to me. It's like a nice reminders. I

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>To me, they're like spiritual organic script like skin cream.

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I need the chemicals. It's not going to

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>do anything unless it has chemicals in.

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 1>It, right, right, right, right? I know, I know, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the worst thing is if I'm on if

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm traveling someplace and I see a crystal storm, like

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>let me just poke my head in, yeah, and then

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>I end up with this forty five pound hunk of like,

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, pink stone. Yeah, and now I'm stuck with it.

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, you have book ends for the rest of your life.

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got to book ends, and a lot of on

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>read books. Wait, do you have any other stories about psychics?

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with these. Okay, So I love hearing testimonials

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of psychics working, yes, but I also like hering when

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't work too.

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I okay, this isn't a psychic story, but it's

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 2>what's coming to mind.

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Give me whatever.

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>There's like a book called Spirit Babies okay that my

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 2>friend told me about, and she told me about it

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 2>after I'd had a miscarriage, and she was like, you

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 2>have to read Spirit Babies because there's this idea that

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>when you have a miscarriage, it's because like it's like

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the idea that spirits are sort of looming around, you

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, they're just out there just looking

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 2>for just looking for a way in. And when a

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>woman gets pregnant, or anyone a person gets pregnant, the

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.640
<v Speaker 2>spirit is sitting there going okay, is this the right

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 2>body for me?

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Is this?

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Do they feel ready for this? That kind of a thing,

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, And that if you lose a pregnancy that

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 2>the spirit was just like not yet and sort of

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>dipped out. So that was like very comforting to me

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>in a time when I felt very out of control

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 2>and was kind of blaming myself for a lot of

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>what was happening. And then I did IVF because while

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I was going through all of this, I was like,

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I even want to be pregnant.

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I maybe a part of me isn't ready and

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>that's why this isn't happening. And maybe if I freeze

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>my embryos, then I can choose later when I feel ready.

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 2>So I do IVF. I freeze all my embryos, and

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 2>then two months later, I found out that I was

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 2>pregnant after my husband and I had sex while I

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>had COVID.

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So I was.

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>So, I was like, okay, and I I remember seeing

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the positive pregnancy test and I'd seen many of these before,

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>and I literally like saw it and had a conver.

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I like put both my hands on my stomach and

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't know if. I was like, let

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>me just try this. I was like, I don't know

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>who you are. I don't know, we don't know each other.

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, but whoever you are, I really want

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>you and I really want to be your mom and

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm so ready. And I had this like moment right,

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and that that ended up being my daughter. So I

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 2>think about that a lot. That was like a really spooky,

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 2>cool kind of moment where I felt like, you know,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>whenever I think about it, I sort of like get

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>a little teary because I'm just like, oh, we had

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>a conversation while you were still like in this spirit,

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And I don't know, that's

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>just I mean, it might not be real, it might not,

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.959
<v Speaker 2>but I but it's just one of those things that

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to tell her about, which I'm sure

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 2>she'll be like, Okay, whatever.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I love that. That's like there's a lot of

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>people that believe in that kind of and I think

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I do too. About like you know, we're spiritual beings

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>having a human experience. We sort of it goes along

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>with past lives and you kind of like you know,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you're always like going to a different host. Yes, And

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>like do you believe in that past life thing?

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I believe in reincarnation. Yeah.

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's like you know, I don't know if

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you jump into the next one instantly or what, but

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you somehow get into the next one. Yeah.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean I believe that for sure, And they they have.

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's like accounts of kids that have memories

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>from lives that they're it's like, well, that didn't happen here,

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? No, I love that, So

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>that to me is really interesting. And I also I

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>just really believe that if if on a scientific level,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 2>like if energy can't be created or destroyed, where does

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>it go? It into somewhere else? And then it just

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>keeps moving. It's always bouncing around. It's always moving.

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And if you see if you've ever seen a dead body,

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>have you seen a dead body?

0:29:59.200 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I have seen it.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Seeing a dead body makes you realize, oh, this is

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>like a car, this is like a skin suit. Yes,

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>outside of like the blood and the organs and the

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the thing that animates all of it

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 2>is like our energy.

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I also feel that way with like the Uncanny Valley,

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Like do you know about that term? Yes? Yeah, It's

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>like you see like a mannequin and you look in

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the eyes and you're like that those eyes they don't

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>have a soul, they don't have a spirit. It's just

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a dead eye.

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And like when you see a dead body, it's like

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>there's it's it's just a vessel. There's nothing, there's no

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>more life there.

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 2>It's not looking at ai art.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's different from when someone's sleeping, like if

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>someone's sleeping and staying still, it's different. I think.

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, first of all, they're way more attractive.

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I wish we could, like if I do

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to talk to a spirit, if I ever like am

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>able to talk to a ghost, I am going to say,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 2>who do I ask to do my makeup before I die?

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Because I need some rex because the funerals, the old,

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the wakes that I've been to, you know, we need

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>to get some real makeup artistic.

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It can be rough, that's for sure. Yeah. No, I've

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I've seen some seen some mugs that they could have

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>used the tutoriums like you didn't have to.

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Do them like that. That's crazy.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for eat your feeling exactly. Well, let's do something

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>fun here. I'll give you an option. Okay, I've got

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>three options. You could choose from one of these, and

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about a little story of the multiple choice. Yeah.

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>These are all like you know, real reported stories.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>The first one is about witches being witches. Witches being

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>witches Okay, Okay. The second one, it's a conspiracy theory

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>about Elvis is still alive and now he's somebody else.

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>But people know.

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 2>We've had enough.

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't usually do conspiracy theories, but sometimes they're so silly.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't even mean so I'm saying ough to Elvis.

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, we've had enough of that too.

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>He's everywhere.

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Let's get lost already. You died years ago.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Where do you go from? Austin Butler? I'm sorry. And

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>then the third one is a haunted toys arr us

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>from the eighties.

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, in nineties. I'm going to go with toys

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>r us. I'm just curious about this.

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>First of all, I like that it's a period piece.

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely a period piece. Okay, So this I'm

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with. It is a haunted toys arrest that has

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>since closed. It closed in twenty eight teen. It's located

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>in sunny Vale, California, which is Bay Area, Okay, somewhere

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>up there. It is now an ari I okay, which

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>what is that?

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>An outdoors close?

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like a camping store.

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Camping store, Okay, so I don't now I tried to

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>do some googling. I tried to even look at yell reviews, and.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, really, I mean ari I would just

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 2>assume their clientele doesn't believe in ghosts.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that doomsday?

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I didn't find any reviews or anyone reporting

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>like a canteen flew across the room, somewhat set up

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a tent, a.

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Pair of skis fell from yeah, balcony.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I didn't see anything like that.

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>But so basically, as the story goes, this toys or

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Russ was constructed in nineteen seventy. I'm getting my info

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>from a mentalfloss dot com article.

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we know it's legit.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>It's very much legit. Though, I will say I know

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>of two TV shows that covered this in like the nineties.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was nineties where they kind of went

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to the place and yeah, it was like she had

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>a moment in the nineties. This toys resident Suddy Veil

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay employees claim to see dolls flying off the shelves

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and balls bouncing down the aisles when they were alone.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>They would feel a cold breeze on their back or

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>hear a disembodied voice call their name. Some witnesses reported

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>being touched by an invisible hand. Are you familiar God

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>with Sylvia Brown?

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I know that name. Tell me who that.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>She's like, this iconic psychic that was like really in

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the media until the two thousand I believe less. Okay,

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>don't take facts from me. But she wrote a bunch

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of books and she would do a lot of like

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>TV appearances. Now, as I always say, I believe psychics

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>are like comedians. They have good days and bad days. Sure,

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>she unfortunately had a lot of bad days that have

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>been recorded and compilated on YouTube of her on like

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Montel Williams being like, did your daughter like whatever? And

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.439
<v Speaker 1>then these people are like, no, I love that. It's great.

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>But you know what she had confidence? Yea, And that

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>is what I want from a psychic.

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay.

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>So she went up in there at the Toys Arrus

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>in Sunny Vale and it says she did a seance

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and during the rituals she claimed to sense the spirit

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of a Swedish preacher named Johnny Johnson. He worked on

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the land, not.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>A preacher and a toys r us.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>This is Johnny john Keep it out, keep it got

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>here Johnson. So, Johnny Johnson before it was a toys

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>r Us worked on that land and he was helping

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>out on it was called the Murphy Farm in the

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighties, and he fell in love with the family

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that lives There's daughter named Elizabeth. She didn't return his

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>affections and ran off with a lawyer from the East Coast.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Now Johnson, Johnny Johnson. He injured his leg chopping trees

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>and slowly bled out, Okay, so.

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 2>A preacher, what's he doing chopping trees?

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what, someone's got to chop them. But he

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>uh so this is all just what she gathered from

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:06.240
<v Speaker 1>being in the barbie. So she's like, there's a preacher

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>name Johnny Johnson here. I'm telling you right now. He

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>chopped his leg.

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 2>It was Johnny Johnson. So uh.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>She said that he is the most stubborn, ornery, argumentative

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>ghost she's ever met. This is what she wrote in

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>her book called The Other Side and Back Colon, a

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Psychics Guide to Our World and Beyond. Okay, And she

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>also wrote, I've tried many times to explain to him

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that his lifetime as Johnny Johnson has ended. He finally

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>got so tired of my nagging him about it that

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.959
<v Speaker 1>he gave me an ultimatum. He said, if you tell

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>me I'm dead one more time, I'm not going to

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>talk to you anymore. Sylvia had so she also would

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like she would go visit him frequently. She would go.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Sylvia would go to the Toys Arrest and be like,

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm back Johnny, and.

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 2>He's well, yeah, it's the only it's the only person

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 2>who not even he would believe her she's talking to him.

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Was the cameras aren't rolling so exactly, Wow, he's her

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>lucky ghost.

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Funny you say that, because I do actually have some

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>footage of the camera rolling while she took a visit

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to see Johnny Jackson at the Toys r See this absolutely,

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>can you show us this clip? This is from a

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>TV show called That's Incredible.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, look at this.

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's good. This seemingly normal toy store is a

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>popular place for local kids. Oh take me back, are

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>those who claim that it's a favorite haunt of a

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>very playful ghost.

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 3>Could a ghost be lurking here in this irresistible playground? Yes?

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, skateboards, Oh it's a recreation. None of this is real.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 4>Zovia Brown believe she made contact with the ghost. I

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:07.320
<v Speaker 4>kept picking up this uh Joannie Johnston.

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Johnston.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 3>The toy store is locate Johnny that spot where this

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:12.760
<v Speaker 3>house once.

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>He probably was like, if you don't start calling me Johnny.

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 3>In the late eighteen hundreds by a prosperous settler named

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Martin Murphy. Further research revealed that a local circuit preacher

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 3>sometimes lived on the Murphy farm.

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>It appears that this is really I'd fallen in love.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 3>With Martin Murphy's daughter Elizabeth.

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they've cooperated.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 3>Even worked on the farm to pay for his room

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and board. Unfortunately, Elizabeth paid little attention to him. One day,

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 3>while chopping wood, Johnson badly slashed his leg. Unable to

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 3>move or get help, he bled to death.

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 4>Leading to death is I've talked to doctors that I

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 4>do work with, and that's really not that painful. It's

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 4>sort of a slow tiredness. So he probably doesn't even

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 4>realize he has did ok now.

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 3>We wondered if our site kick, Sylvia Brown, could make

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 3>contact with the ghosts that was loose in the store.

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 3>The best way was to set up a seance. We

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 3>hired professional.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Photographer little bit.

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it was in their cameras that the unbelievable

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 3>appeared to happen.

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>I love that everyone in the eighties had the exact

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>same haircut.

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I know, men, women doesn't matter.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm really feeling now I think so.

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Now we're looking at her literally doing a very spookidly

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>lit saan.

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just moving along to the right, trays heading out

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 4>towards me.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Now she believes she sees him. Now, this is what's crazy.

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>They're snapping photos. They captured Yanni Johnson. Look at that

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 1>he's looking down.

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 3>At his feet.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 4>These photographs were taking Wait, it's that that light light

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 4>talking to the John Johnson.

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 3>The photograph in this proof sheet was taken with infrared film.

0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 4>At the same time the photograph on this.

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Proof sheet was taken with high speed films.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 4>The incredible thing.

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Is that whole man standing there.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Figure standing at the back of the picture that does

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>not show up in the photographs taken with high speed films.

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, John, you can find just like you just go on.

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 4>To the other side. You really are caught in a

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 4>kind framework.

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they're claiming that they took the same photo

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>two times, and they in one of two different cameras,

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 1>and one camera captured that man standing there in shadow form.

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>That's what they claim on a TV show called That's Incredible. Now,

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>if it is, that is incredible.

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's pretty amazing. It sucks to have been a

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 2>psychic in the eighties and nineties, I do think, because

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>people are much more open to what they do now.

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I think so. But also nowadays things get proven, Like

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody has access to research to be like you're lying,

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>this isn't real, right or whatever.

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 2>But I think like because of that, people are either

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 2>going to believe you where they're not true. So it's

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 2>like you're gonna find your people, you know what I mean.

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Whereas back then, if somebody else didn't believe the same thing,

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, yeah, no, me either, right, But now

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 2>people will just go back and forth and be like, no,

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 2>this is what but have you seen this?

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>But have you seen this?

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 2>You know? So I think people are kind of just

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>choosing a belief system now, yeah that works for them.

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I can see where you would believe in psychics

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>after those stories that you told me those are pretty

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>good psychics.

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I still but I still am like, we'll see, but

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.720
<v Speaker 2>it kind OF's like you can bomb.

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're allowed silver. Sometimes you get a couple of

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>minutes on TV and it's not it didn't go your way.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Other times Yannisen shows up in a photo.

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, so you kind of like leaning against a bookshelf

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>and he's doing he was doing a real like Marlboro

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Man post.

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to look hot for that daughter. Yeah,

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>she was interested in her lawyer. Yeah, hey, can I

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>show you a doll that is haunted that's currently for

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>sale on eBay?

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's time Wait how much?

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Hang on, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay,

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>so frose Bud. Actually I forgot to write down how

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>much this doll is going for? Ge how much is

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 1>this doll going for?

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, if it's free, then I'm I'm like, oh that

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>shit is haunted.

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Exactly because here's the thing, Like the price matters, I believe,

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, if it's free, if someone's just a couple bucks,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>that is, that's that's what we're looking for in my opinion.

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But all so, I don't know, I don't know a

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of these, you know. It's another thing I look

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>at how many other haunted dolls are these people selling

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's an industry.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, this one's going for seventy dollars.

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Seventy Okay, it's a little steep. Her name is Liz.

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>And as always, if you want to see what this

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>doll looks like, just go to the Instagram at ghosted

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>by Ros and there's a new tab. Actually there's a

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>new story highlight and it says dolls twenty twenty five.

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Gee can you show us Liz please? You got it, Ros, Liz,

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Liz the Haunted Door?

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Did you give it a name like Liz?

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>And she looks like that?

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 2>So what we got here is that's just an ugly doll.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:52.879
<v Speaker 1>She could definitely use a wig.

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Just because a doll is ugly doesn't mean it's haunted.

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>That is the umping off point for a lot of these,

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, to see it ugly. And she's she's

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>got a fabric.

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's got socks for socks for arms.

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she has I'm guessing a porcelain face, a little

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>cracked maybe, Yeah. Her eyes are real close together. Yeah.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Cash Ptel that I don't know who that is. He's

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 2>like he's in Trump's administration.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, and she's got the real tiny.

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Little yeah mouth. Yeah, her face is very small for

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>her head.

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that mouth. That's a Mitch McConnell mouth

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>with some lipstick on it and very teeny tiny little eyebrows. Anyway, Well,

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing about all these dolls. They come with stories.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Is that a bloodstain on her shirt?

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I assume. So here's what it says about Liz. It

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>says meat Liz a lively and flirtatious spirit attached to

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>this charming vintage doll. Liz's personality is as colorful as

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>her story, making her an unforgettable companion for those seeking

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a playful and highly interactive spirit. Her sense of humor,

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>love for vintage dolls, and artistic energy make her one

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of a kind. A little bit about her personality, She

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>has a cheeky, flirtatious sense of humor and loves to

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>make her presence known during.

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Our Does this mean is she going to get involved

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 2>at night?

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>It says during our first session through a spirit box,

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>which is like a ghost hunting device, she introduced herself

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>with a hilarious and bold comment stating, Okaya, now, hang

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>on a second. They did that thing where you like, say,

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>like a nod word, but you put asterisks. Yeah, you know,

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>so they put P and then four asterisks, so it

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>says I love.

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Penis and I oh, I love penis.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.399
<v Speaker 1>It says I love penis, and then there's another one

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a C and there's one, two, three, four, five asterisks.

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 1>See oh SKay, nope, see you. I'm not going to

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>keep spulling I love. Maybe she's bye, we don't know.

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>She passed away at thirty. She mentioned attaching to this

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>particular doll because of her love of vintage dolls, especially

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>ones like this. She describes herself as artistic with dark brown,

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 1>curly hair and striking blue eyes. Blah blah blah.

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>She I'm sorry, but this personality would have attached to

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 2>a hot doll.

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I know, like a hot bisexual.

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that she would have chosen that, but

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it does say like her headline in the listing says

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>haunted doll, extremely active, flirtatious, LGBTQ positive, So she's an ally.

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 1>We don't know exactly what she's into, but something with.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like penis and cunts.

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 1>You make up your mind on that one.

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I have a theory about Liz Okay. I feel like

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 2>after years of inserting herself into probably several different polycules.

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 2>She probably was a really hot doll and then you

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:46.479
<v Speaker 2>know it's just some wear and tear.

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.880
<v Speaker 1>She had been through it. Yeah, she's been through it

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:50.720
<v Speaker 1>all genders.

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's just kind of like she's been around and she's.

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>That lady would ask you what time you were born?

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:00.399
<v Speaker 1>That's all. Yeah.

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Hey, the town bicycle, Liz, the town bicycle.

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Everybody gets a ride. She's that bird scooter. Can I

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>play some ghost voices?

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, please, it's time for EVP or ev please okay.

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>The term EVP it stands for Electronic Voice phenomenal. So

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>this is anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a ghost.

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I've been ghosts. I've been ghost hunting before.

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Ross, whoa, I just lost my headphones. Why didn't we

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>start with that.

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I've been ghost hunting. I went with my husband when

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 2>we were in New Orleans.

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 1>We went ghost Tell me all of that and then

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to the ghost.

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it wasn't New Orleans, maybe it was North Carolina.

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to ask him, but we did go on

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 2>a ghost tour. Yeah. Honestly, I was very distracted because

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 2>the guy who was running the ghost tour. He would

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 2>not stop talking about how his son used to go

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 2>on the ghost tour with him and now he's too embarrassed.

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh that man and so yeah, and he had a

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:17.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of rivalries with other.

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Ghost tours and it gets competitive.

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like, you know, they don't have the

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>same equipment I have, but they think but they got

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 2>this massive following and you know, so and so I

0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 2>was sort of like, well, now it just feels like

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 2>we're sort of supporting a small business ghost hunter whose

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 2>son wants nothing to do with him. And I can't

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to the stories because I want to hear

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:43.439
<v Speaker 2>more about his exactly. So that's probably why we didn't

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 2>start there. Oh but anyways, I know what an EVP.

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Is, Okay, Okay, Yeah, because yeah, I've I've definitely gone

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of tours and looked into a lot

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>of them. And you go to these websites and a

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of times it'll say the only one in town

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that has piece of equipment, yeah, or the only one

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>with access to this place. You know, these people are

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.759
<v Speaker 1>no joke. They want to be the best one in town,

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:14.320
<v Speaker 1>so their sons will talk to them. Okay, So this

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>first one is from CC the Huntress on YouTube. CC

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>recorded this at the Black Swan Inn, which is in Tilton,

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire, New Hampshire. What is this ghost saying? Rosebud? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I bud?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? I mean it's clear as day?

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<v Speaker 2>That's clear as day to you?

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:50.279
<v Speaker 3>No it is not.

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>But okay, wait, let me just really tune in here.

0:51:54.520 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that literally sounds like someone on the street going

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 2>comedy show.

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're barking, you want to come to the comedy club.

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>We got people from Comedy Central.

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>You can't think of a sadd way to die.

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh what if it's the ghost of that of one

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:25.439
<v Speaker 1>of those flyer people. Well, that is not what CC

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the Huntress believes.

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:28.359
<v Speaker 2>What did she say?

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you abc D. Did CC think it was

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a wait? I need to hear it one more time

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 1>before key's options? Okay, did CC think it was a

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that song? Ain't shit? B they're coming quick? C that's

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:53.760
<v Speaker 1>how they sit? Or D I got a ship.

0:52:54.600 --> 0:53:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it's that's how they sit, exactly.

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>What CC believes. I also think it could be I

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 1>got a shit. Yeah, Okay, here's one more. This one

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:16.360
<v Speaker 1>was posted by ghosts Nat seventy one sixty seven on YouTube,

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and it has had a place called the Black Dog

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Wine Company in Oakdale, Pennsylvania. Why is it saying.

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Get me out of Oakdale?

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I could see that oak Well, it's not what ghosts

0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Ghosts NAT seventy one sixty seven thought. Did they think

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it was a no I'm a bad kid? Oh? No,

0:53:54.120 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>b don't write a bad check? C Oh, that's some bullshit?

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Or d are you sure you don't want to come

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:09.959
<v Speaker 1>to the comedy show? I can't we play it again?

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Don't write a bad check?

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 1>They believe it is saying no, I'm a bad kid.

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, now I hear that.

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I could hear bad check.

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean something like that. I would. I could

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 2>hear no I'm a bad kid after having heard it after.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>But that's usually how it goes. But it's like to

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:39.839
<v Speaker 1>pull it out of thin air.

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's really really difficult to

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 2>break these things down.

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's do one last thing.

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of breaking things down, I'm curious your thoughts. I'm

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of paranormal stuff and I'm just gonna

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 1>bits some out it. Yeah, and you tell me if

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you've got a thought about it if you got a

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 1>story about I don't know what it inspires.

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bigfoot bullshit? Mm hmmm, I don't. I don't think

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't exist. I think it's you know, people

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that spend a lot of time in the woods. Ari

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I are lonely, Yes, ari I. I think Bigfoot is

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 2>people who take alpha brains like astrology.

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not a I don't like the

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 1>great outdoors, so I'm not a big I don't have

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>much interest in going to look for Bigfoot. Yeah, but

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I wish all of those people.

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Well I do too, and also got enough to worry

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 2>about your living in the woods. You know there's bears

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 2>out there. Yeah, maybe just focus on the real threats exactly.

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's a lot of this stuff. You know,

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.840
<v Speaker 1>there's bigger issues than invisible people.

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>For sure, But that's just fun and games Bigfoot when

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for tracks and stuff, I don't want to

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 2>have to hike.

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But also it's like, what if we met Bigfoot and

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't know, like a bro that like

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:21.320
<v Speaker 1>just a really toxic masculine you know, It's like I

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>don't Yeah, there's a million ways it could be awful. Yes,

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're spending a lot of time looking for something

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that could be very disappointing. Right, Okay, what about wigi boards?

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I just like there's something about them that really makes

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:44.720
<v Speaker 2>me feel happy and really joyous. Yeah, because it reminds

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 2>me of like spooky sleepovers.

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And so you played it before?

0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I remember like doing like a Oiji

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 2>board with a candle and someone spranging some perfume and

0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 2>the candle going up and all of us being like,

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, so, I just it's to me real or

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 2>not doesn't matter. Creates incredible memories, yes, and it honestly

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 2>is the purpose of what I think Ouigi board, whether

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 2>it brings in ghosts or not, you do connect. You

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 2>make a connection over a wigi board, whether it's with

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 2>a living or dead spirit. Right, So to me, that's valid.

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 1>It gives the kids something to do to focus on

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:32.919
<v Speaker 1>and stay away from their screens. Yeah, take a break

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>from the iPad and go talk to some demens. Kids

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>with a demon.

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Connect with your own imagination.

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>What about demons? Is that something that you subscribe?

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I do?

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I absolutely do.

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>In what sense? Like, do you think that there's like

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a devil?

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a devil in Yeah, in the sense

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 2>that like there are demonicsits, and I think they do

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 2>attach themselves to us. And I think that they show

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 2>themselves in either the form of like addiction or like

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 2>spiritual malaise. Yeah. I just there's something about them that

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I really do believe in. I think that's why The

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Exorcist is such a scary movie because to me, whether

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>it's Satan or the devil, if the idea that something

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 2>can enter your body and take over your mind is

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 2>very real, Yeah for sure. Yeah.

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's the thing. I think a lot of

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>times it's kind of personified as you know, some kind

0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of horned creature. But it's like or could it just

0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 1>be bad energy?

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe you just got like too famous, too fast,

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 2>and now you're a demon.

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I couldn't help it. Everyone just wanted me. Okay,

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>let's do one last one.

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>What about UFOs?

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 2>UFOs? I don't I know that they exist because they

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 2>it's been confirmed. Right. Do I believe that the drones

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 2>over New Jersey were UFOs?

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you think aliens would want to go to New Jersey?

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not, absolutely not. But also maybe they just needed

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>like a bunch of people that like to gossip a lot,

0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:40.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I think that New Jersey people are

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 2>they do like to talk.

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, you know what I mean.

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:44.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, you get some chatter going.

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 1>There's that kind of old joke about like how foreign

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>countries get our media later, you know, so like certain

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.200
<v Speaker 1>things are like brand new to them, but it's like

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it's from years ago. Yes, I wonder if they like

0:59:57.200 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 1>recently got the Sopranos and there they wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>see where it was shot. You know, it probably takes

1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a while to get up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're like, what is gabba ghoul?

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're like, we don't know how it ended. It

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 1>just went black. Yeah, we want to go down there and.

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<v Speaker 2>See you see if he's okay, Yeah, that's a really

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<v Speaker 2>good theory.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's my theory. Okay. But do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>they are like beings that live on another planet or.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see why not? Yeah, I don't see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see why not. I think out of all

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we've talked about today, that makes the

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<v Speaker 2>most sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, it's the most like physical like tangible or

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<v Speaker 1>it's something like the idea of people living on a

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<v Speaker 1>planet I mean we do, so why can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Why couldn't that? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>obviously that they are people. I think people are We're

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<v Speaker 2>our own thing, you know what I mean. Like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not people living in the ocean or are there? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there could be, but I don't want to see them.

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<v Speaker 2>Very well, I don't want to see I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see them. We only don't even like the look

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<v Speaker 2>of fish. So I don't want to see a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Who looks like a fish, yeah, and like lives with

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<v Speaker 1>the fishes and acts like a fish. Yeah, well that's mermaids.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of people, A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>come back and they say, you know, I was out

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<v Speaker 1>there and I saw a mermaid and she was hideous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they say. All other times, doll, that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, like it wasn't cute, Like no, get that

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<v Speaker 1>idea out of your head. This thing was like fish head, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>with like lady legs or I actually I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see like a fish with tits. Okay, that's hot, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but not hot tits.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that very well could be like some some nasty fish.

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<v Speaker 2>With ye a movie where the guy fucked the fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go ahead and say, like, didn't it win

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<v Speaker 2>an oscar?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? The shape of water?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that seems to me like what what a

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<v Speaker 2>mermaid would look like for real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like a creature from the Black Lagoon. Yeah, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a thing. I don't know. I don't find that

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<v Speaker 1>is scary because I'm like, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Land, bitch, Yeah, come up here, get up here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going down there. Come up here, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>see how long you can last. I'll put one arm

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<v Speaker 1>behind my back, let's go, let's fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it on my territory, on my turf.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel about sharks too. Sharks are like

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<v Speaker 1>one of my biggest fears.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you saw one on land, oh, come over here, bitch. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, but if I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>There, I don't trust anything in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do you go in the ocean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even eat seafood. I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want anything down there. That's I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to eat eat food from Mars, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to eat anything from the from the water.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I you know, this is not a completely accurate statement,

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<v Speaker 1>but both up and in the ocean are like both

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<v Speaker 1>very little discovered. We don't know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I don't even like it just on

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<v Speaker 2>a food based level. I don't like that fish look

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same dead as they do alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what I'm saying, because I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>souls to bring it back to the corpses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, well anyway, thanks for doing that. I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really fun. So do you have you do

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<v Speaker 1>you have anything you want to tell us?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, do I have anything booked? Am I booked?

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<v Speaker 4>And you?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want us to where do you want us

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<v Speaker 1>to follow?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Follow me at rosebud Baker on tic tac Instagram YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a special coming out on Netflix February eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Congrat you. It's called The mother Load.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's very exciting. And it's an hour that

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<v Speaker 2>I shot pregnant and then a year later after I'd

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<v Speaker 2>had the baby, and it's mixed together into one hour.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool. So one year later you okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It talks about like miscarriage, IVF, all the all that shit,

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<v Speaker 2>and spirit babies and spirit babies a little bit there's

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<v Speaker 2>like nods to it, but I don't, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a comedy club audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but yeah, I'm really really exciting. Congrats, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then SNL. Honestly, I think people need to watch

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<v Speaker 1>that episode about the writers at SNL on Peacock on Peacock,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you know what it's called. It's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>SNL documentary beyond SNL something it's called. That's incredible. Go

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. Just go to Peacock and type in the

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<v Speaker 1>SNL documentary about writers and then you'll see Rosebud running

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<v Speaker 1>from the cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>But turning around and running.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, people don't necessarily go, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>The person that wrote this sketch is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I want people to you know. Yeah, people

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<v Speaker 1>don't always know that those are written by people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and those jokes are very funny. Yeah, anyway, thanks for doing.

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<v Speaker 2>This, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>This was so fun, bless you. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>to Rosebud, and make sure you check out Rosebud's new

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix comedy special mother Load on the eighteenth of February. God,

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is really it's a good one. It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this podcast. I like it a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you for listening and tell everyone you know

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I love you all, both living and dead.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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<v Speaker 1>haunt me. Okay, by this has been an exactly right production.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,

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<v Speaker 1>My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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<v Speaker 1>is the Alarm Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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<v Speaker 1>sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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<v Speaker 1>is the Petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support from the

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<v Speaker 1>hair Raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by

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<v Speaker 1>the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced

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<v Speaker 1>by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, The Spooky Georgia hard Stark,

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<v Speaker 1>and the frightening Danielle Kramer