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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. He's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I said, I los Nandas. Please Hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Bostood by Roz Hernandez, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: I got to talk to rosebud Baker, who is such

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Speaker 1: a hilarious comedian. She is a writer on SNL and

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Speaker 1: she has a new Netflix special coming out called mother Load.

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Speaker 1: Look out for that. She is such a good comedian

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Speaker 1: and she has some stories. Oh my god, this is

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Speaker 1: like perfect episode, I really think. So it's a great

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Speaker 1: one because we got some good stories, we get a

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Speaker 1: little real and we laugh. What Morgage ask for? Oh,

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Speaker 1: speaking of laughter, something that I love to make people do.

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Speaker 1: And you know, constantly I'm doing comedy whether you realize

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Speaker 1: it or not. I am working on a lot of

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Speaker 1: dates right now, and I'm trying. I'm trying to get everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to all fifty states in America,

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Speaker 1: and trust me, I want to go beyond America to

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Speaker 1: trust me, I wouldn't mind a little break. So I'm

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Speaker 1: working on dates. So make sure you're paying attention to

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Speaker 1: my social media. Everything's on Instagram at ros Hernandez. Also,

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Speaker 1: speaking of being a comedian, I am nominated for a

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Speaker 1: queert Award, which is a great honor. It's a great

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ publication called the Queer Teas and you are allowed

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Speaker 1: to vote for it every single day, and that voting

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Speaker 1: If you're unsure how to spell it or whatever, just

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Speaker 1: go to my link tree, which we'll have a link

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Speaker 1: to it there so I can say I'm an award

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Speaker 1: winning comedian and the people I'm up against, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: some of my biggest enemies. Actually, I think a couple

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Speaker 1: of people that have been on the show, probably I

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Speaker 1: don't know, vote for me, We're vote for them, They're

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Speaker 1: all great whatever, whatever, Just you know, vote, very very important. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you a story real quick. This one

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Speaker 1: comes from a listener named Emma Emirates. A few years ago,

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Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I moved into a house in the

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Speaker 1: a hauntingly beautiful photo of the original owner's three sons,

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Speaker 1: started subtly. Fire alarms blared when we stood underneath them

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Speaker 1: We'd go to check it out, but no one was

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Speaker 1: as if an unseen hand was testing it. She stepped

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Speaker 1: Because I was the only one home, I went to check,

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Speaker 1: Then there was the furnace. Every summer, we'd turn off

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was on that show. One night.

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Speaker 1: good ghost story. All right, let's talk to the hilarious

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Speaker 1: rosebud Baker and with the show. Rosebud Roz, thanks for

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: You're a New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: Hang on a second, you work at us at all?

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Speaker 1: I was just watching that documentary and I saw you

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Speaker 1: Did you see me running that Peacock documentary? Which was great?

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Speaker 1: You know? I put it on and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Focuses on, like there's an episode just about the writers,

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Speaker 2: I spent the entire year last year hiding from that

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not doing this. This feels like

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Speaker 1: You know, every time I have an SNL person here,

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Speaker 1: I asked them if thirty Rock is haunted, they always say, no,

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Speaker 2: I would say haunted, Uh, by my own personal demons,

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Speaker 2: I would say. I would say people's personal demons are enough.

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Speaker 2: I think if a ghost walked into thirty Rock, they'd

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this is too much. Too many personalities, too

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's why I wonder when it's completely quiet,

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Speaker 1: there's nobody there. I bet you a security guard has

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Speaker 1: got a story. Oh yeah, you know, somebody like that.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, somebody. I mean, I wonder if thirty Rock

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Speaker 1: Wow. You know I have so much respect for people

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Speaker 1: that are you're you're doing this season right? Yes? Yes, good.

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Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun. I think honestly, I think part

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Speaker 2: They are so good to what they do. I spent

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Speaker 2: I don't there's no real reason for me to be

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Speaker 1: Right right right. That's that's how I feel, too, Like

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Speaker 1: I like a joke, yes, and I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: some good ones these days on that show. Congratulations, good job,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Gee pushes the envelope, which I appreciate in

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Speaker 1: a way that's not like the gross way, you know,

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Speaker 1: Good job, thank you. Hey, what about ghosts?

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Speaker 2: What about ghosts?

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Speaker 1: Are you Okay? Here's the annoying thing I say almost

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Speaker 1: every single damn episode. We never hear New York ghost

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Speaker 2: Well, New York is a very haunted city.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why these people they come on my show,

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Speaker 1: they never have a ghost Like I'll have people that

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Speaker 1: every once in a while, but not enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for my liking, I have some very intense I mean,

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Speaker 2: most of my experience with like the metaphysical is through mediums.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, mediums who have literally accosted me on the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they just come up to you and they go,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I have to tell you something.

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Speaker 2: They literally will be like, I'm I'm so sorry about

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: So I lost my sister years years ago, twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: And then I have, and then i'm I'm a recovering alcoholic.

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Speaker 2: So I have any ton of friends?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah in two days, ten years.

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Speaker 2: we know a lot of people who die. Yeah, sadly,

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Speaker 2: And I'm comics, so those comics they die, Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: am riddled with dead bodies. Apparently they're just following me around.

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Speaker 1: You know, what's funny that I always say, my dead

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Speaker 2: What do you mean they're not They're not around like

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Speaker 1: You've talked to mediums and they they say goodbye, and

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Speaker 1: that's it, weird, no comment. I go to psychics. I

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Speaker 1: they say, I'm sorry, babe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no right, and you're like, can you make one up.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, just say something. Did you have a grandma that

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Actually I have had them where they're like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing some like they start describing someone. I'm like, that's

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Speaker 1: not I never Yeah, I don't talk to people that

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Speaker 1: of one of these stories. Somebody comes up to you.

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Speaker 2: So there was one time I was at a comedy club.

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Speaker 1: You know, when she told you this, were you like

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh god, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's probably why she got fired. She kept going up

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Speaker 2: And sorry about what happened to your dad.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I honestly don't know if she got

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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you tell us all of them?

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Speaker 2: So okay, it's been so long since I thought about

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, is to bring out these memories.

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Speaker 1: In there, I mean I've done.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you didn't ask to hear this, but

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Speaker 2: And that was the first time I ever really scared

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Speaker 2: So we grew up like Episcopalian, which is like Catholicism

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm very into like God and the concept of God

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Speaker 2: Well, my mom got sober when I was like seventeen,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean, Like I remember her getting kind

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Speaker 2: And then after my sister died, it was like really

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Speaker 1: That's something I was raised with, is like the signs,

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Speaker 1: like yes, like my grandfather's funeral, like the clouds parted

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Speaker 1: and there was a rainbow. Yes, So that's him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, I'm why I like it. Why not,

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Speaker 2: I'm open to it.

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Speaker 1: That's to me. I think maybe he came out as

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Speaker 1: it's everything up here and then born this way, We're

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Speaker 1: down for whatever up here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah hell yeah yeah. I think a major way into

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Speaker 1: That was astrology. Okay. Astrology is something that at this

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Speaker 2: Okay, but it's a little more complicated then it's a

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Speaker 2: tough thing to kind of pick up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like learning a language, and I just you know.

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Speaker 2: It really is not that smart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love people that know about it.

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Speaker 2: What is your son?

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Speaker 1: Well, I know I'm a Libra. I always forget what

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Speaker 1: that text message exchange with my mother, yes, many times. Right,

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Speaker 1: And my mom will get a text and I'll say

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Speaker 2: And then they take that information it's and you don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they say you're at this and you're

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Speaker 2: be honest, but it was a way in for me.

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00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: Okay.

438
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I still think it's interesting.

439
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: Listen. I think whatever people connect with great for them.

440
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also feel like anytime you feel like things

441
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: are outside of your control and you can lean on

442
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 2: something else, go for it.

443
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Crystals you ever get into that.

444
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: No. I like them. They're in my house, yeah, but

445
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't like lay on a floor and line them

446
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: up on my you know, pelvis.

447
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: I've done that.

448
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I oh get a.

449
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: There's no returns at crystal stores.

450
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is.

451
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: Very unfortunate because I have made so many purchases at

452
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: a crystal.

453
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: Stone and they're so expensive.

454
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: They're gorgeous. They don't do anything, in my opinion, but

455
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: they're nice to me. It's like a nice reminders. I

456
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: don't know.

457
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: To me, they're like spiritual organic script like skin cream.

458
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I need the chemicals. It's not going to

459
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: do anything unless it has chemicals in.

460
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: It, right, right, right, right? I know, I know, but like,

461
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: and that's the worst thing is if I'm on if

462
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm traveling someplace and I see a crystal storm, like

463
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: let me just poke my head in, yeah, and then

464
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: I end up with this forty five pound hunk of like,

465
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, pink stone. Yeah, and now I'm stuck with it.

466
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: Well, you have book ends for the rest of your life.

467
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: I've got to book ends, and a lot of on

468
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: read books. Wait, do you have any other stories about psychics?

469
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with these. Okay, So I love hearing testimonials

470
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: of psychics working, yes, but I also like hering when

471
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: they don't work too.

472
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I okay, this isn't a psychic story, but it's

473
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: what's coming to mind.

474
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: Give me whatever.

475
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: There's like a book called Spirit Babies okay that my

476
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: friend told me about, and she told me about it

477
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: after I'd had a miscarriage, and she was like, you

478
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: have to read Spirit Babies because there's this idea that

479
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: when you have a miscarriage, it's because like it's like

480
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: the idea that spirits are sort of looming around, you

481
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean, they're just out there just looking

482
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: for just looking for a way in. And when a

483
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: woman gets pregnant, or anyone a person gets pregnant, the

484
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: spirit is sitting there going okay, is this the right

485
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: body for me?

486
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: Is this?

487
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: Do they feel ready for this? That kind of a thing,

488
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, And that if you lose a pregnancy that

489
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: the spirit was just like not yet and sort of

490
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: dipped out. So that was like very comforting to me

491
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: in a time when I felt very out of control

492
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: and was kind of blaming myself for a lot of

493
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: what was happening. And then I did IVF because while

494
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: I was going through all of this, I was like,

495
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if I even want to be pregnant.

496
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: I don't.

497
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Maybe I maybe a part of me isn't ready and

498
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: that's why this isn't happening. And maybe if I freeze

499
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: my embryos, then I can choose later when I feel ready.

500
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 2: So I do IVF. I freeze all my embryos, and

501
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: then two months later, I found out that I was

502
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: pregnant after my husband and I had sex while I

503
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: had COVID.

504
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: So I was.

505
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: So, I was like, okay, and I I remember seeing

506
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: the positive pregnancy test and I'd seen many of these before,

507
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: and I literally like saw it and had a conver.

508
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: I like put both my hands on my stomach and

509
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know if. I was like, let

510
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: me just try this. I was like, I don't know

511
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: who you are. I don't know, we don't know each other.

512
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: I was like, but whoever you are, I really want

513
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: you and I really want to be your mom and

514
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm so ready. And I had this like moment right,

515
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: and that that ended up being my daughter. So I

516
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: think about that a lot. That was like a really spooky,

517
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: cool kind of moment where I felt like, you know,

518
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: whenever I think about it, I sort of like get

519
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: a little teary because I'm just like, oh, we had

520
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: a conversation while you were still like in this spirit,

521
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I don't know, that's

522
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: just I mean, it might not be real, it might not,

523
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 2: but I but it's just one of those things that

524
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell her about, which I'm sure

525
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 2: she'll be like, Okay, whatever.

526
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: You know.

527
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: No, I love that. That's like there's a lot of

528
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: people that believe in that kind of and I think

529
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I do too. About like you know, we're spiritual beings

530
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: having a human experience. We sort of it goes along

531
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: with past lives and you kind of like you know,

532
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: you're always like going to a different host. Yes, And

533
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: like do you believe in that past life thing?

534
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: I believe in reincarnation. Yeah.

535
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like you know, I don't know if

536
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: you jump into the next one instantly or what, but

537
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: you somehow get into the next one. Yeah.

538
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: I mean I believe that for sure, And they they have.

539
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: You know, there's like accounts of kids that have memories

540
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: from lives that they're it's like, well, that didn't happen here,

541
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? No, I love that, So

542
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: that to me is really interesting. And I also I

543
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: just really believe that if if on a scientific level,

544
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: like if energy can't be created or destroyed, where does

545
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: it go? It into somewhere else? And then it just

546
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: keeps moving. It's always bouncing around. It's always moving.

547
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

548
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: And if you see if you've ever seen a dead body,

549
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: have you seen a dead body?

550
00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I have seen it.

551
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 2: Seeing a dead body makes you realize, oh, this is

552
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: like a car, this is like a skin suit. Yes,

553
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: outside of like the blood and the organs and the

554
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: you know, like the thing that animates all of it

555
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: is like our energy.

556
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: I also feel that way with like the Uncanny Valley,

557
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: Like do you know about that term? Yes? Yeah, It's

558
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: like you see like a mannequin and you look in

559
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: the eyes and you're like that those eyes they don't

560
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: have a soul, they don't have a spirit. It's just

561
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: a dead eye.

562
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

563
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: And like when you see a dead body, it's like

564
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: there's it's it's just a vessel. There's nothing, there's no

565
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: more life there.

566
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: It's not looking at ai art.

567
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's different from when someone's sleeping, like if

568
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: someone's sleeping and staying still, it's different. I think.

569
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: Oh, first of all, they're way more attractive.

570
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

571
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wish we could, like if I do

572
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: to talk to a spirit, if I ever like am

573
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: able to talk to a ghost, I am going to say,

574
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: who do I ask to do my makeup before I die?

575
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: Because I need some rex because the funerals, the old,

576
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: the wakes that I've been to, you know, we need

577
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: to get some real makeup artistic.

578
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: It can be rough, that's for sure. Yeah. No, I've

579
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: I've seen some seen some mugs that they could have

580
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: used the tutoriums like you didn't have to.

581
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: Do them like that. That's crazy.

582
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for eat your feeling exactly. Well, let's do something

583
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: fun here. I'll give you an option. Okay, I've got

584
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: three options. You could choose from one of these, and

585
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about a little story of the multiple choice. Yeah.

586
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: These are all like you know, real reported stories.

587
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

588
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: The first one is about witches being witches. Witches being

589
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: witches Okay, Okay. The second one, it's a conspiracy theory

590
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: about Elvis is still alive and now he's somebody else.

591
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: But people know.

592
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: We've had enough.

593
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't usually do conspiracy theories, but sometimes they're so silly.

594
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: I love it.

595
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't even mean so I'm saying ough to Elvis.

596
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, we've had enough of that too.

597
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: He's everywhere.

598
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Let's get lost already. You died years ago.

599
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Where do you go from? Austin Butler? I'm sorry. And

600
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: then the third one is a haunted toys arr us

601
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: from the eighties.

602
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, in nineties. I'm going to go with toys

603
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: r us. I'm just curious about this.

604
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Okay.

605
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: First of all, I like that it's a period piece.

606
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: It is absolutely a period piece. Okay, So this I'm

607
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: obsessed with. It is a haunted toys arrest that has

608
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: since closed. It closed in twenty eight teen. It's located

609
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: in sunny Vale, California, which is Bay Area, Okay, somewhere

610
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: up there. It is now an ari I okay, which

611
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: what is that?

612
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: Like?

613
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: An outdoors close?

614
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: I think it's like a camping store.

615
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Camping store, Okay, so I don't now I tried to

616
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: do some googling. I tried to even look at yell reviews, and.

617
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, really, I mean ari I would just

618
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: assume their clientele doesn't believe in ghosts.

619
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that doomsday?

620
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

621
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't find any reviews or anyone reporting

622
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: like a canteen flew across the room, somewhat set up

623
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: a tent, a.

624
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: Pair of skis fell from yeah, balcony.

625
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't see anything like that.

626
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

627
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: But so basically, as the story goes, this toys or

628
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: Russ was constructed in nineteen seventy. I'm getting my info

629
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: from a mentalfloss dot com article.

630
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so we know it's legit.

631
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: It's very much legit. Though, I will say I know

632
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: of two TV shows that covered this in like the nineties.

633
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: I believe it was nineties where they kind of went

634
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: to the place and yeah, it was like she had

635
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: a moment in the nineties. This toys resident Suddy Veil

636
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: Okay employees claim to see dolls flying off the shelves

637
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: and balls bouncing down the aisles when they were alone.

638
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: They would feel a cold breeze on their back or

639
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: hear a disembodied voice call their name. Some witnesses reported

640
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: being touched by an invisible hand. Are you familiar God

641
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: with Sylvia Brown?

642
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: I know that name. Tell me who that.

643
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: She's like, this iconic psychic that was like really in

644
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: the media until the two thousand I believe less. Okay,

645
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: don't take facts from me. But she wrote a bunch

646
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: of books and she would do a lot of like

647
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: TV appearances. Now, as I always say, I believe psychics

648
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: are like comedians. They have good days and bad days. Sure,

649
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: she unfortunately had a lot of bad days that have

650
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: been recorded and compilated on YouTube of her on like

651
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: Montel Williams being like, did your daughter like whatever? And

652
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: then these people are like, no, I love that. It's great.

653
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: But you know what she had confidence? Yea, And that

654
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: is what I want from a psychic.

655
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

656
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: So she went up in there at the Toys Arrus

657
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: in Sunny Vale and it says she did a seance

658
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: and during the rituals she claimed to sense the spirit

659
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: of a Swedish preacher named Johnny Johnson. He worked on

660
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: the land, not.

661
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: A preacher and a toys r us.

662
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: This is Johnny john Keep it out, keep it got

663
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: here Johnson. So, Johnny Johnson before it was a toys

664
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: r Us worked on that land and he was helping

665
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: out on it was called the Murphy Farm in the

666
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: eighteen eighties, and he fell in love with the family

667
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: that lives There's daughter named Elizabeth. She didn't return his

668
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: affections and ran off with a lawyer from the East Coast.

669
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Now Johnson, Johnny Johnson. He injured his leg chopping trees

670
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: and slowly bled out, Okay, so.

671
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: A preacher, what's he doing chopping trees?

672
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: You know what, someone's got to chop them. But he

673
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: uh so this is all just what she gathered from

674
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: being in the barbie. So she's like, there's a preacher

675
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: name Johnny Johnson here. I'm telling you right now. He

676
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: chopped his leg.

677
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: It was Johnny Johnson. So uh.

678
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: She said that he is the most stubborn, ornery, argumentative

679
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: ghost she's ever met. This is what she wrote in

680
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: her book called The Other Side and Back Colon, a

681
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Psychics Guide to Our World and Beyond. Okay, And she

682
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: also wrote, I've tried many times to explain to him

683
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: that his lifetime as Johnny Johnson has ended. He finally

684
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: got so tired of my nagging him about it that

685
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: he gave me an ultimatum. He said, if you tell

686
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: me I'm dead one more time, I'm not going to

687
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: talk to you anymore. Sylvia had so she also would

688
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: like she would go visit him frequently. She would go.

689
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Sylvia would go to the Toys Arrest and be like,

690
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: I'm back Johnny, and.

691
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: He's well, yeah, it's the only it's the only person

692
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: who not even he would believe her she's talking to him.

693
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: Was the cameras aren't rolling so exactly, Wow, he's her

694
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: lucky ghost.

695
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Funny you say that, because I do actually have some

696
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: footage of the camera rolling while she took a visit

697
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: to see Johnny Jackson at the Toys r See this absolutely,

698
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: can you show us this clip? This is from a

699
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: TV show called That's Incredible.

700
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Oh God, look at this.

701
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah it's good. This seemingly normal toy store is a

702
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: popular place for local kids. Oh take me back, are

703
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: those who claim that it's a favorite haunt of a

704
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: very playful ghost.

705
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: Could a ghost be lurking here in this irresistible playground? Yes?

706
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: Ooh, skateboards, Oh it's a recreation. None of this is real.

707
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: Zovia Brown believe she made contact with the ghost. I

708
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 4: kept picking up this uh Joannie Johnston.

709
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: Johnny Johnston.

710
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: The toy store is locate Johnny that spot where this

711
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 3: house once.

712
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: He probably was like, if you don't start calling me Johnny.

713
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: In the late eighteen hundreds by a prosperous settler named

714
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 3: Martin Murphy. Further research revealed that a local circuit preacher

715
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: sometimes lived on the Murphy farm.

716
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: It appears that this is really I'd fallen in love.

717
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: With Martin Murphy's daughter Elizabeth.

718
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they've cooperated.

719
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: Even worked on the farm to pay for his room

720
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: and board. Unfortunately, Elizabeth paid little attention to him. One day,

721
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: while chopping wood, Johnson badly slashed his leg. Unable to

722
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: move or get help, he bled to death.

723
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: Leading to death is I've talked to doctors that I

724
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: do work with, and that's really not that painful. It's

725
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: sort of a slow tiredness. So he probably doesn't even

726
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: realize he has did ok now.

727
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: We wondered if our site kick, Sylvia Brown, could make

728
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: contact with the ghosts that was loose in the store.

729
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: The best way was to set up a seance. We

730
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: hired professional.

731
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Photographer little bit.

732
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was in their cameras that the unbelievable

733
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: appeared to happen.

734
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: I love that everyone in the eighties had the exact

735
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: same haircut.

736
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: I know, men, women doesn't matter.

737
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: I'm really feeling now I think so.

738
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Now we're looking at her literally doing a very spookidly

739
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: lit saan.

740
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, just moving along to the right, trays heading out

741
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: towards me.

742
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Now she believes she sees him. Now, this is what's crazy.

743
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: They're snapping photos. They captured Yanni Johnson. Look at that

744
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: he's looking down.

745
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: At his feet.

746
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: These photographs were taking Wait, it's that that light light

747
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: talking to the John Johnson.

748
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 3: The photograph in this proof sheet was taken with infrared film.

749
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: At the same time the photograph on this.

750
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: Proof sheet was taken with high speed films.

751
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 4: The incredible thing.

752
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: Is that whole man standing there.

753
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: Figure standing at the back of the picture that does

754
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: not show up in the photographs taken with high speed films.

755
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: Oh, John, you can find just like you just go on.

756
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: To the other side. You really are caught in a

757
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: kind framework.

758
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

759
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're claiming that they took the same photo

760
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: two times, and they in one of two different cameras,

761
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: and one camera captured that man standing there in shadow form.

762
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: That's what they claim on a TV show called That's Incredible. Now,

763
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: if it is, that is incredible.

764
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty amazing. It sucks to have been a

765
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: psychic in the eighties and nineties, I do think, because

766
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: people are much more open to what they do now.

767
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: I think so. But also nowadays things get proven, Like

768
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: everybody has access to research to be like you're lying,

769
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: this isn't real, right or whatever.

770
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: But I think like because of that, people are either

771
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: going to believe you where they're not true. So it's

772
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: like you're gonna find your people, you know what I mean.

773
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: Whereas back then, if somebody else didn't believe the same thing,

774
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: you'd be like, yeah, no, me either, right, But now

775
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: people will just go back and forth and be like, no,

776
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: this is what but have you seen this?

777
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: But have you seen this?

778
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: You know? So I think people are kind of just

779
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: choosing a belief system now, yeah that works for them.

780
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: Well, I can see where you would believe in psychics

781
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: after those stories that you told me those are pretty

782
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: good psychics.

783
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: I still but I still am like, we'll see, but

784
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: it kind OF's like you can bomb.

785
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're allowed silver. Sometimes you get a couple of

786
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: minutes on TV and it's not it didn't go your way.

787
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

788
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Other times Yannisen shows up in a photo.

789
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: Right, so you kind of like leaning against a bookshelf

790
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: and he's doing he was doing a real like Marlboro

791
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: Man post.

792
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: He was trying to look hot for that daughter. Yeah,

793
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: she was interested in her lawyer. Yeah, hey, can I

794
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: show you a doll that is haunted that's currently for

795
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: sale on eBay?

796
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time Wait how much?

797
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: Hang on, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay,

798
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: so frose Bud. Actually I forgot to write down how

799
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: much this doll is going for? Ge how much is

800
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: this doll going for?

801
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: Well, if it's free, then I'm I'm like, oh that

802
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: shit is haunted.

803
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: Exactly because here's the thing, Like the price matters, I believe,

804
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: because yeah, if it's free, if someone's just a couple bucks,

805
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: that is, that's that's what we're looking for in my opinion.

806
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: But all so, I don't know, I don't know a

807
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of these, you know. It's another thing I look

808
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: at how many other haunted dolls are these people selling

809
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: because it's an industry.

810
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: Well, this one's going for seventy dollars.

811
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: Seventy Okay, it's a little steep. Her name is Liz.

812
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: And as always, if you want to see what this

813
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: doll looks like, just go to the Instagram at ghosted

814
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: by Ros and there's a new tab. Actually there's a

815
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: new story highlight and it says dolls twenty twenty five.

816
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Gee can you show us Liz please? You got it, Ros, Liz,

817
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: Liz the Haunted Door?

818
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: Did you give it a name like Liz?

819
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: And she looks like that?

820
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: So what we got here is that's just an ugly doll.

821
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: She could definitely use a wig.

822
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: Just because a doll is ugly doesn't mean it's haunted.

823
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: That is the umping off point for a lot of these,

824
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, to see it ugly. And she's she's

825
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: got a fabric.

826
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got socks for socks for arms.

827
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has I'm guessing a porcelain face, a little

828
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: cracked maybe, Yeah. Her eyes are real close together. Yeah.

829
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: Cash Ptel that I don't know who that is. He's

830
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: like he's in Trump's administration.

831
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: Oh oh, and she's got the real tiny.

832
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Little yeah mouth. Yeah, her face is very small for

833
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: her head.

834
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't like that mouth. That's a Mitch McConnell mouth

835
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: with some lipstick on it and very teeny tiny little eyebrows. Anyway, Well,

836
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: here's the thing about all these dolls. They come with stories.

837
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: Is that a bloodstain on her shirt?

838
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: I assume. So here's what it says about Liz. It

839
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: says meat Liz a lively and flirtatious spirit attached to

840
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: this charming vintage doll. Liz's personality is as colorful as

841
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: her story, making her an unforgettable companion for those seeking

842
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: a playful and highly interactive spirit. Her sense of humor,

843
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: love for vintage dolls, and artistic energy make her one

844
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: of a kind. A little bit about her personality, She

845
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: has a cheeky, flirtatious sense of humor and loves to

846
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: make her presence known during.

847
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: Our Does this mean is she going to get involved

848
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: at night?

849
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: It says during our first session through a spirit box,

850
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: which is like a ghost hunting device, she introduced herself

851
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: with a hilarious and bold comment stating, Okaya, now, hang

852
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: on a second. They did that thing where you like, say,

853
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: like a nod word, but you put asterisks. Yeah, you know,

854
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: so they put P and then four asterisks, so it

855
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: says I love.

856
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: Penis and I oh, I love penis.

857
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: It says I love penis, and then there's another one

858
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: a C and there's one, two, three, four, five asterisks.

859
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: See oh SKay, nope, see you. I'm not going to

860
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: keep spulling I love. Maybe she's bye, we don't know.

861
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: She passed away at thirty. She mentioned attaching to this

862
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: particular doll because of her love of vintage dolls, especially

863
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: ones like this. She describes herself as artistic with dark brown,

864
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: curly hair and striking blue eyes. Blah blah blah.

865
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: She I'm sorry, but this personality would have attached to

866
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: a hot doll.

867
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: I know, like a hot bisexual.

868
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

869
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that she would have chosen that, but

870
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: it does say like her headline in the listing says

871
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: haunted doll, extremely active, flirtatious, LGBTQ positive, So she's an ally.

872
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what she's into, but something with.

873
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: It sounds like penis and cunts.

874
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: You make up your mind on that one.

875
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: I have a theory about Liz Okay. I feel like

876
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: after years of inserting herself into probably several different polycules.

877
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: She probably was a really hot doll and then you

878
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,479
Speaker 2: know it's just some wear and tear.

879
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: She had been through it. Yeah, she's been through it

880
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: all genders.

881
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just kind of like she's been around and she's.

882
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: That lady would ask you what time you were born?

883
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah.

884
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: Hey, the town bicycle, Liz, the town bicycle.

885
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: Everybody gets a ride. She's that bird scooter. Can I

886
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: play some ghost voices?

887
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 2: Yes?

888
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: Okay, please, it's time for EVP or ev please okay.

889
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: The term EVP it stands for Electronic Voice phenomenal. So

890
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: this is anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a ghost.

891
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: I've been ghosts. I've been ghost hunting before.

892
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: Ross, whoa, I just lost my headphones. Why didn't we

893
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: start with that.

894
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: I've been ghost hunting. I went with my husband when

895
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: we were in New Orleans.

896
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: We went ghost Tell me all of that and then

897
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: we'll get to the ghost.

898
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't New Orleans, maybe it was North Carolina.

899
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: I'd have to ask him, but we did go on

900
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: a ghost tour. Yeah. Honestly, I was very distracted because

901
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: the guy who was running the ghost tour. He would

902
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: not stop talking about how his son used to go

903
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: on the ghost tour with him and now he's too embarrassed.

904
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh that man and so yeah, and he had a

905
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 2: lot of rivalries with other.

906
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: Ghost tours and it gets competitive.

907
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, you know, they don't have the

908
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: same equipment I have, but they think but they got

909
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: this massive following and you know, so and so I

910
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: was sort of like, well, now it just feels like

911
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: we're sort of supporting a small business ghost hunter whose

912
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: son wants nothing to do with him. And I can't

913
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: pay attention to the stories because I want to hear

914
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 2: more about his exactly. So that's probably why we didn't

915
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: start there. Oh but anyways, I know what an EVP.

916
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: Is, Okay, Okay, Yeah, because yeah, I've I've definitely gone

917
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: on a lot of tours and looked into a lot

918
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: of them. And you go to these websites and a

919
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: lot of times it'll say the only one in town

920
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: that has piece of equipment, yeah, or the only one

921
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: with access to this place. You know, these people are

922
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: no joke. They want to be the best one in town,

923
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: so their sons will talk to them. Okay, So this

924
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: first one is from CC the Huntress on YouTube. CC

925
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: recorded this at the Black Swan Inn, which is in Tilton,

926
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, New Hampshire. What is this ghost saying? Rosebud? Okay?

927
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 2: Can I bud?

928
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Sure? I mean it's clear as day?

929
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: That's clear as day to you?

930
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: No it is not.

931
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: But okay, wait, let me just really tune in here.

932
00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: Okay, that literally sounds like someone on the street going

933
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: comedy show.

934
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're barking, you want to come to the comedy club.

935
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: We got people from Comedy Central.

936
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: You can't think of a sadd way to die.

937
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: Oh what if it's the ghost of that of one

938
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 1: of those flyer people. Well, that is not what CC

939
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: the Huntress believes.

940
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: What did she say?

941
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: I'll give you abc D. Did CC think it was

942
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: a wait? I need to hear it one more time

943
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: before key's options? Okay, did CC think it was a

944
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: that song? Ain't shit? B they're coming quick? C that's

945
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: how they sit? Or D I got a ship.

946
00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 2: I think it's that's how they sit, exactly.

947
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: What CC believes. I also think it could be I

948
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: got a shit. Yeah, Okay, here's one more. This one

949
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: was posted by ghosts Nat seventy one sixty seven on YouTube,

950
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: and it has had a place called the Black Dog

951
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: Wine Company in Oakdale, Pennsylvania. Why is it saying.

952
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: Get me out of Oakdale?

953
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: I could see that oak Well, it's not what ghosts

954
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: Ghosts NAT seventy one sixty seven thought. Did they think

955
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: it was a no I'm a bad kid? Oh? No,

956
00:53:54,120 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: b don't write a bad check? C Oh, that's some bullshit?

957
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: Or d are you sure you don't want to come

958
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 1: to the comedy show? I can't we play it again?

959
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 2: Don't write a bad check?

960
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: They believe it is saying no, I'm a bad kid.

961
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh, now I hear that.

962
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: I could hear bad check.

963
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean something like that. I would. I could

964
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: hear no I'm a bad kid after having heard it after.

965
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: But that's usually how it goes. But it's like to

966
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: pull it out of thin air.

967
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's really really difficult to

968
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: break these things down.

969
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: Let's do one last thing.

970
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

971
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of breaking things down, I'm curious your thoughts. I'm

972
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: just a bunch of paranormal stuff and I'm just gonna

973
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: bits some out it. Yeah, and you tell me if

974
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: you've got a thought about it if you got a

975
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: story about I don't know what it inspires.

976
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bigfoot bullshit? Mm hmmm, I don't. I don't think

977
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: so it doesn't exist. I think it's you know, people

978
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: that spend a lot of time in the woods. Ari

979
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: I are lonely, Yes, ari I. I think Bigfoot is

980
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: people who take alpha brains like astrology.

981
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm not a I don't like the

982
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: great outdoors, so I'm not a big I don't have

983
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: much interest in going to look for Bigfoot. Yeah, but

984
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: I wish all of those people.

985
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: Well I do too, and also got enough to worry

986
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: about your living in the woods. You know there's bears

987
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, maybe just focus on the real threats exactly.

988
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a lot of this stuff. You know,

989
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: there's bigger issues than invisible people.

990
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: For sure, But that's just fun and games Bigfoot when

991
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: you're looking for tracks and stuff, I don't want to

992
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: have to hike.

993
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: But also it's like, what if we met Bigfoot and

994
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know, like a bro that like

995
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: just a really toxic masculine you know, It's like I

996
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, there's a million ways it could be awful. Yes,

997
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: and you're spending a lot of time looking for something

998
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: that could be very disappointing. Right, Okay, what about wigi boards?

999
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: I just like there's something about them that really makes

1000
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: me feel happy and really joyous. Yeah, because it reminds

1001
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: me of like spooky sleepovers.

1002
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: And so you played it before?

1003
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember like doing like a Oiji

1004
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: board with a candle and someone spranging some perfume and

1005
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: the candle going up and all of us being like,

1006
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, so, I just it's to me real or

1007
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: not doesn't matter. Creates incredible memories, yes, and it honestly

1008
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: is the purpose of what I think Ouigi board, whether

1009
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: it brings in ghosts or not, you do connect. You

1010
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: make a connection over a wigi board, whether it's with

1011
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: a living or dead spirit. Right, So to me, that's valid.

1012
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: It gives the kids something to do to focus on

1013
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 1: and stay away from their screens. Yeah, take a break

1014
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: from the iPad and go talk to some demens. Kids

1015
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: with a demon.

1016
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: Connect with your own imagination.

1017
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: What about demons? Is that something that you subscribe?

1018
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: I do?

1019
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely do.

1020
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: In what sense? Like, do you think that there's like

1021
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: a devil?

1022
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: I think there's a devil in Yeah, in the sense

1023
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: that like there are demonicsits, and I think they do

1024
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: attach themselves to us. And I think that they show

1025
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: themselves in either the form of like addiction or like

1026
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: spiritual malaise. Yeah. I just there's something about them that

1027
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: I really do believe in. I think that's why The

1028
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: Exorcist is such a scary movie because to me, whether

1029
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: it's Satan or the devil, if the idea that something

1030
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: can enter your body and take over your mind is

1031
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: very real, Yeah for sure. Yeah.

1032
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing. I think a lot of

1033
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: times it's kind of personified as you know, some kind

1034
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: of horned creature. But it's like or could it just

1035
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: be bad energy?

1036
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you just got like too famous, too fast,

1037
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: and now you're a demon.

1038
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: Sorry, I couldn't help it. Everyone just wanted me. Okay,

1039
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: let's do one last one.

1040
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1041
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: What about UFOs?

1042
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: UFOs? I don't I know that they exist because they

1043
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: it's been confirmed. Right. Do I believe that the drones

1044
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: over New Jersey were UFOs?

1045
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: No?

1046
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: Do you think aliens would want to go to New Jersey?

1047
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, absolutely not. But also maybe they just needed

1048
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: like a bunch of people that like to gossip a lot,

1049
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, and I think that New Jersey people are

1050
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: they do like to talk.

1051
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, you know what I mean.

1052
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: You know, you get some chatter going.

1053
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: There's that kind of old joke about like how foreign

1054
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: countries get our media later, you know, so like certain

1055
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: things are like brand new to them, but it's like

1056
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: it's from years ago. Yes, I wonder if they like

1057
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: recently got the Sopranos and there they wanted to go

1058
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: see where it was shot. You know, it probably takes

1059
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: a while to get up there.

1060
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, what is gabba ghoul?

1061
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, we don't know how it ended. It

1062
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: just went black. Yeah, we want to go down there and.

1063
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: See you see if he's okay, Yeah, that's a really

1064
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: good theory.

1065
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: That's that's my theory. Okay. But do you think that

1066
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: they are like beings that live on another planet or.

1067
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't see why not? Yeah, I don't see. Yeah,

1068
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: I can't see why not. I think out of all

1069
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: the things that we've talked about today, that makes the

1070
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: most sense.

1071
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's the most like physical like tangible or

1072
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: it's something like the idea of people living on a

1073
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: planet I mean we do, so why can't.

1074
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: Why couldn't that? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think

1075
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 2: obviously that they are people. I think people are We're

1076
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: our own thing, you know what I mean. Like, there's

1077
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: not people living in the ocean or are there? Well,

1078
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: there could be, but I don't want to see them.

1079
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: Very well, I don't want to see I don't want

1080
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: to see them. We only don't even like the look

1081
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: of fish. So I don't want to see a person.

1082
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: Who looks like a fish, yeah, and like lives with

1083
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: the fishes and acts like a fish. Yeah, well that's mermaids.

1084
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people, A lot of people

1085
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: come back and they say, you know, I was out

1086
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: there and I saw a mermaid and she was hideous.

1087
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: That's what they say. All other times, doll, that makes sense,

1088
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: they say, like it wasn't cute, Like no, get that

1089
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: idea out of your head. This thing was like fish head, yes,

1090
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: with like lady legs or I actually I don't know,

1091
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: but yeah.

1092
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: I could see like a fish with tits. Okay, that's hot, yeah,

1093
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: but not hot tits.

1094
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that very well could be like some some nasty fish.

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Speaker 2: With ye a movie where the guy fucked the fish.

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Speaker 1: Which one.

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01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say, like, didn't it win

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: an oscar?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? The shape of water?

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01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that seems to me like what what a

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: mermaid would look like for real.

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01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a creature from the Black Lagoon. Yeah, kind

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Speaker 1: of a thing. I don't know. I don't find that

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01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: is scary because I'm like, come on.

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01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: Land, bitch, Yeah, come up here, get up here.

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01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm not going down there. Come up here, and let's

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: see how long you can last. I'll put one arm

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01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: behind my back, let's go, let's fight.

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01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: Let's do it on my territory, on my turf.

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01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about sharks too. Sharks are like

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01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: one of my biggest fears.

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01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: But if you saw one on land, oh, come over here, bitch. Yeah.

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: But like, but if I'm in.

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: There, I don't trust anything in there.

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't do you go in the ocean, I don't

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01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: even eat seafood. I don't either.

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01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: I don't want anything down there. That's I don't want

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01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: to eat eat food from Mars, and I don't want

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01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: to eat anything from the from the water.

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01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: It's I you know, this is not a completely accurate statement,

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01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: but both up and in the ocean are like both

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: very little discovered. We don't know exactly.

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01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't even like it just on

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01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: a food based level. I don't like that fish look

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: the exact same dead as they do alive.

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01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I'm saying, because I don't have

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: souls to bring it back to the corpses.

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: Yuck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well anyway, thanks for doing that. I love you.

1131
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: This is really fun. So do you have you do

1132
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: you have anything you want to tell us?

1133
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: You know, do I have anything booked? Am I booked?

1134
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 4: And you?

1135
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 3: Now?

1136
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: Do you want us to where do you want us

1137
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: to follow?

1138
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: You?

1139
01:03:54,040 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: Follow me at rosebud Baker on tic tac Instagram YouTube.

1140
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 2: I have a special coming out on Netflix February eighteenth.

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01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: That's insane.

1142
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: Congrat you. It's called The mother Load.

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01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: Amazing.

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01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's very exciting. And it's an hour that

1145
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: I shot pregnant and then a year later after I'd

1146
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: had the baby, and it's mixed together into one hour.

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01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: That's so cool. So one year later you okay, Yeah,

1148
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: I love it.

1149
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: It talks about like miscarriage, IVF, all the all that shit,

1150
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: and spirit babies and spirit babies a little bit there's

1151
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: like nods to it, but I don't, you know, it's

1152
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: a comedy club audience.

1153
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Sure, but yeah, I'm really really exciting. Congrats, thank you.

1154
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: And then SNL. Honestly, I think people need to watch

1155
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: that episode about the writers at SNL on Peacock on Peacock,

1156
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: what do you know what it's called. It's I don't

1157
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: SNL documentary beyond SNL something it's called. That's incredible. Go

1158
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: watch it. Just go to Peacock and type in the

1159
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: SNL documentary about writers and then you'll see Rosebud running

1160
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: from the cameras.

1161
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: But turning around and running.

1162
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: But it's like, people don't necessarily go, oh my god.

1163
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: The person that wrote this sketch is like, you know,

1164
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: I just I want people to you know. Yeah, people

1165
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: don't always know that those are written by people, right,

1166
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: and those jokes are very funny. Yeah, anyway, thanks for doing.

1167
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: This, Thank you for having me.

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01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: This was so fun, bless you. Thank you so much

1169
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: to Rosebud, and make sure you check out Rosebud's new

1170
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: Netflix comedy special mother Load on the eighteenth of February. God,

1171
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: this podcast is really it's a good one. It's good.

1172
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: I like this podcast. I like it a lot, and

1173
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for listening and tell everyone you know

1174
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: about it. I love you all, both living and dead.

1175
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

1176
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: haunt me. Okay, by this has been an exactly right production.

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01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I

1178
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,

1179
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

1180
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

1181
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: show's instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

1182
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

1183
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

1184
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

1185
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: is the Alarm Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

1186
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

1187
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: is the Petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support from the

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01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: hair Raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced

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01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, The Spooky Georgia hard Stark,

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01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer