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Second of again, 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Black Hand Feel thirty four to twenty three, the Bengals 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: over the Ravens to kick off Week two. This is 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal alongside Chris Westlyne, Dan Hansis and Mark Sessler. 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Will be with us a little later to preview the 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: Week two games. But Chris, we are here to talk 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: a little T and F once again. I forgot how 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: to do this, but I know this was a tough 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: night for you, testing your professionalism to write nice things 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: about the Cincinnati Bengals, the undefeated Cincinnati Bengals on NFL 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: dot Com. That's one way to put it. I would say, 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: in my defense, I've been pretty complimentary about the Bengals 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: throughout the off season, and certainly about Joe Mixon the 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: first two weeks. That's true, and Mixon made a difference 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: in this game, even though the numbers didn't show it. 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: Twenty one carries eighty four yards. When he came back 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: into the game. He was on and off the field 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: because of injuries. When he came back in in the 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they absolutely needed to drive, he was 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: kind of the key guy to kill the clock, move 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the ball, and they got a field goal that that 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: held off the Ravens. The Bengals were up to seven, 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: they almost blew it. Did you think they were gonna 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: blow it? And what were you? I absolutely thought they 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: would blow up because I've seen the you know, for 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: thirty five years, the Bengals always blow leads. This time 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: they they did a good job of keeping the lead. 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: And I think this this is one of the most 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: improved offenses in the league. And and the defense is 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: improved too. Even without Vontes Perfect out there, this defense 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: is better than it's been. You think they're gonna go 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: sixteen and now, no, I don't know. I don't think 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: they have it in them. But it would be fun 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: to see them go sixteen and oh and then losing 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: the in the in the second round of them, that 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: would be That would be Marvin Lewis really stepping up. 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: There are a different team though, don't you think uh 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd is really becoming a solid number two to 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: Ada Green? Green had three touchdowns in this game. He 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: could have had three last weekends. And Balton will find 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: open receivers if you give him time. And this offensive 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: line kept him sack free against the defense that dominated 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: the Bills last week. Yeah, that the coaching changes for 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: this team have been a little under the radar. So 54 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Frank Pollock uh is their offensive former cowboy offensive line, 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: and they look like a different offensive line. They look 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: like a solid offensive line. Laser has had all off 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: season to implemented playbook. He sort of got thrust into 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: that in the middle of September last year. I was 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: thinking back to I believe it was Week two a 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: year ago. I was in this studio talking about Bengals 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Texans and that was a terrible game to watch the 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Bengals offense and comparing that Bengals offense to this one, 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: I think they have some stain power. I know it 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: was a Thursday night game on the road, but they 65 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: pushed around the Ravens defensive line a little bit. I 66 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: don't know if the Bengals are ready yet to challenge 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Patriots, but they look like a 68 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: playoff team to me, and I hope we get West 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: of Vis again this year. I think we are. I 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: think the annual tradition Erica, you do you know what 71 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: west of this is? Our producer, the loose cannon is 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: behind the glass with us this Tuesday night. Do you 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: know what west of This is? Uh, it's like the 74 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: celebration of West No, well, sort of in an off 75 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: hand kind of way. Yeah. I created this about what 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: seven years ago. It was the annual Saturday afternoon in January, 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs when the Bengals lose 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: every year. So that's his favorite day of the year, 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals losing, and we haven't been able to do 80 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: it the last couple of years. I'm with you. I 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: think at least two teams are getting into the playoffs 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: from the a f C North. I predicted the Ravens 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: and Bengals before the years would be those two. We'll see. 84 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: It's a it's a long way to go. I think 85 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: if you're a Ravens fan, I wouldn't freak out of it. 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't think any differently about this team after this 87 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: game that the defense wasn't great but actually as bad 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: as Joe Flacco looked in the first quarter of this game. 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: The difference between this year is Joe Flacco and last 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: year's Joe Flacco is at least he can do enough 91 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: to rebound after a terrible start and put up some 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: garbage stats and make it interesting that last year's Joe 93 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: Flacco wasn't doing this. Yeah, he almost went for four 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: hundred yards, and a lot of that is because his 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: receivers are better. John Brown dropped the touchdown, but made 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: some big plays in this game. I think they really 97 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: missed C. J. Moseley, who went out with a bone 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: bruise early in the game, and middle of the field 99 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: was wide open for the Bengals for most of the game. 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: And the other thing that would worry me if I'm 101 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: a Ravens fan. I'm probably making too much of this, 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: but Eric Weddle is thirty three years old. He's played 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy games. That one of the hardest 104 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: hitting positions on the field, and I hope he took 105 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: a bad angle on the eight second A J. Green 106 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: touchdown because he looked awfully slow on that play. He didn't. 107 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: He did not look great tonight. Geno Atkins might have 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: been the best player on the field. Two tackles for 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: last four quarterback kids, two sacks, but the Ravens aren't 110 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna win any games where they have no sacks, no turnovers. 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton in prime Time was basically mistake free throwing 112 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: to A J. Green And I just want to read 113 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: a tweet that the loose cannon said, and I want 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: to see if she can explain it to me. She wrote, 115 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: A J. Green is like the X that you ignored 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: their calls a little too long in case someone else called, 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: but then shows up to the dance with Tom Brady, 118 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: catch my drift. Listen, listen, make it quick, Okay, make 119 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: it quick. A J. Green people last season and started like, yeah, 120 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: he's okay, he's good, you know whatever bother they're kind 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: of about him. And then tonight he like busted through 122 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: the gate the first half and everyone was like A J. Green, 123 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, heart eyes emoji like he's the popular 124 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: kid now, but he was the one that we were 125 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: all sort of like, I'm not going to pick up 126 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: the phone for him calling because I'm gonna see what 127 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: else is out there. But then he shows you up 128 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: by you know, bringing Tom Brady to the dance. That 129 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: was just me throwing in tom Brady, but otherwise like 130 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: bringing the hottie to the dance when you didn't Anyone 131 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: that was ever questioning a j Green too hard doesn't 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: know what they were talking about. This This guy's a 133 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. And then finally before we throw it 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: to Dan, I want to I want to hear a 135 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: voice of another Hall of Famer in my eyes. But 136 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Andy has been playing with your hair on fire. Basically, 137 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: I see what you did there, Andy Dalton, two thousand eighteen. 138 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: That was a great reaction to our friend Colleen Wolf. 139 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: Congratulations for Colleen hanging out in my hometown first night 140 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: hosting the pregame, the half time, the post game of 141 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. They grow up so fast, and she 142 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: did an awesome job as predicted. She was incredible. Congratulations 143 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: to Colleen, and let's throw it over to Dan and 144 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about the week to slate, 145 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast posts up jays in the backyard. 146 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 147 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I am joined in 148 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, d I like 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: that idea. Actually, just have listeners start sending high quality 151 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: clothing to my desk at work and I'll start wearing it. 152 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: You heard it, people hit me up and I'll give 153 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: you my sizes before you purchase. At the top of 154 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: the show, you heard Wes and Greg the Scientists breakdown 155 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens and Ben Gals Tilt on Thursday night, and 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: our job today on the late Thursday early Friday edition 157 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: of our pod is to break down each of the 158 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: week two games we we were you know, of course 159 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: in London last week. We get back Monday highly jet lagged. 160 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: Um actually slept to almost six am uh this morning, 161 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: so I feel like I'm really heading in the right 162 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: direction now, in full recovery. But no one said that 163 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: was part of the deal of going to London. It 164 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: was like, no one cares about you. You're going on 165 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: your little fancy boy trip and when you come back, 166 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: you're going to be dropped into you know, the Viet 167 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: conge and that's where we are right now. But you 168 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: can just like whine about it at the top of 169 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: the podcast. At least that helps. Yeah, I'm not whining. 170 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is my my I think our 171 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: job is to try to recapture some of the energy 172 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: that was going back and forth between West and the 173 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: loose cannon behind the glass before the show started, because 174 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: that was something special. I've never seen West scream at 175 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: someone like that. Yeah, there was no screaming. Okay, your thoughts. 176 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Someone happened before the show. Greg's just jealous that since London, 177 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: West and I have a much deeper bond, Greg, there's 178 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: something to that. Okay. By the way, I wonder if 179 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Vietnam vets might disagree with your opening analysis there. That 180 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: was a little a little bit more harrow than wandering 181 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: around a carpeted corporate building talking about a sport. Well, 182 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I love this country, and 183 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: of course all the veterans the true heroes of this country. 184 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: But one thing they don't know is what it's like 185 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: to go on a work trip to England, and then 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm back and have to record three podcasts and go 187 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: to multiple meetings. I'm losing it. West is right on 188 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: the edge. It's weak too. West had a borderline meltdown 189 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: when his slack wasn't opening, and then he found out 190 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: that we had to do a video hit. What was it? 191 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: What did you say? There's not enough hours in the day. 192 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: That's something. That's what a crazy person says when they 193 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: lose it. There's not enough hours. I need more hours, day, 194 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: need more class. Erica's upbringing for not knowing what apple 195 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: juice looks like compared to drinking urine. Well yeah, but wait, 196 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: have you ever met a human in their twenties that 197 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: doesn't know what apple juice looks like? That did not 198 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: look like normal apple juice. It's a fair critique. West. 199 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Thank you look exactly like apple juice. Actually, 200 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: there was a label on it that said apple drinking 201 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Lacroix with a straw, Erica. The context clues were everywhere, 202 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep a cool right now, but don't 203 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: ever come at me about Lacroix or straw. That he 204 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: likes his straws. All right, here's what happened? I get 205 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: through Chemo, I have a skate through the off season, 206 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: the easiest off season I've ever had, and in the 207 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: helicopter me into week two. And by the way, you 208 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: have eight new jobs here, deal with them. And I'm like, well, 209 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: how when did all these jobs get on my plate? 210 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: You know? If we're gonna get soon, I go ahead 211 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: and Mark, that's playing that other little fiddle song it 212 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: wants to play. It was it went quiet. We have 213 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years, but it got a little bit louder, 214 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: and the back it's that little war cry for that 215 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: little salary increase. Ittle song starts to just get a 216 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: little bit loud. It's coming. I'm underpaid and I'm not 217 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: gonna take it. We're gonna start getting some raises around here. 218 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: How many jobs do you want a man to do? 219 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: We're all gonna get fired. Um, okay, so we're gonna 220 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: go through each of the I agree, by the way, West, 221 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: I would like more money too. But you know what, 222 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: we're pretty damn lucky too, aren't we. Greg. It's football season. 223 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: We're here to talk football, and we're gonna go through 224 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: each of the games. Um, I was gonna say half 225 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: the league is oh and one, but Marx Brown's Oh, 226 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: we just can't pull this off. It's too hard to 227 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: kick a field goal. Wait a minute, they ruined everything, 228 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: So now there's a tie attached to pause two items 229 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: number one. I like how you don't blame the Steelers 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: for that. Secondly, in a preseason an episode, I predicted 231 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers would have nine and a half winds, So 232 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: let's see how that turns out. Might do we call 233 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: ties half winds? Now? Is that the would That's exactly 234 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: what a tie would be in the standings point five? Yeah, 235 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: you would get that. Okay, we're gonna go through every 236 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: scene around here. Thank yous. I don't know he's the 237 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: guy to get all right, so let's get going. Let's start. Uh. 238 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: In the NFC South, a great rivalry, um, the Carolina 239 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: Panthers want to know. Uh, they kind of bullied the 240 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys a bit. Not a great showing offensively by the Panthers, 241 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: but what they did do was beat up on the 242 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive line on Dak Prescott, didn't let Zeke Elli 243 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: get loose. A really on balance. A nice start in 244 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: the first game with David Tepper at ownership and with 245 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: the big Panthers logo in the center of the field. 246 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Who cares? I keep talking about the logo on the 247 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: center of the field. I don't know why that keeps 248 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: on connecting in my brain. But now they go in Carolina. 249 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: They were talking about it all off seasons. Okay, so 250 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: maybe I was just I didn't even realize I was 251 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: tapping into that entire right now they head now to 252 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta to face the Falcons and this you know, these 253 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: are not must win games, Mark Sessler in Week two, 254 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: But you know what, that was such a bad showing 255 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: by the Falcons, especially on offense against the Eagles, that 256 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: you really want to see them do something and really 257 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: take care of business at home in their home open 258 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: or big game for them. Yeah, man, because we you know, 259 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: you and I picked the Falcons, say super Bowl. I did. 260 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm a little annoyed. I've never heard is this the 261 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: new Mark? Yeah? Man? It was awesome. Bro. Well, I'm 262 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: just playing off of the lexicon you were throwing at 263 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: us before the show, where you're trying to be like 264 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: a man from like Queens eight, like son of Summer, 265 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: son of Sam Summer, like all right, okay, please let's here. Anyways, 266 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: I one of the most tiring narratives all this offseason 267 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: and last offseason because they got pound it lay into 268 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: like forty two dead horses with Steve Scarce Sarkis and 269 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: how will he adjust the offense? What will happen? It's like, 270 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: here's the problem, though, nothing is more depressing than me 271 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: when you watch a team come out the way they 272 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: did the Falcons against the Eagles and have the same 273 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: identical problems that they had on offense a year ago. 274 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: And this is a team that since Steve Sarkising has 275 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: showed up, has ranked twenty nine and red zone scoring percentage. 276 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: So it's not just words, it's real. And you look 277 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: at Falcons, the Falcons losing games, the playoff game last year, 278 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: the game this year where you with the red zone 279 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: offense were completely different. There are a different team. We're 280 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: talking about them differently. They might have been the Super 281 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: Bowl winner and slay those ghosts from two seasons ago. 282 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 1: How the heck did they get out of this situation? 283 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: This is like the Battle of Chancellorsville. Who's left on 284 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: these rosters? It's Week two and the Panthers and Falcons 285 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: are the two most injured teams in the Battle was 286 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: that again the Civil War battle. Those veterans also have 287 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: no idea what it's like to be on a podcast 288 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: for the and Dan Patriots definitely didn't know what podcasts are, 289 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, Greg Olsen's gone. Tray Turner, who was 290 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: one of their loan surviving offensive tackles, has a concussion, 291 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: and then Devonte Freeman's not practicing this week for the Falcons, 292 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: Jones and Neil are out. Who's left? God forbid Greg 293 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: that the Yeah, the injuries is a big part of this. 294 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: But to Mark's point, God forbid the Falcons start sputtering 295 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: in the red zone again and they have another game 296 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: like they had in Week one, tying back to the playoffs, 297 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: because then that's all anybody's gonna talk about. They need 298 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: to score points and a lot of them on Sunday. 299 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: This is such a great opportunity for the Panthers. Ron Rivera, 300 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: even though they lost all those players to injury, I 301 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: think loved the way that his team came out and 302 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: they could perhaps bully the Falcons up front with that 303 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: defensive line, which did look incredible. And we we just 304 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: came from a meeting for this Twitter show that we're 305 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: going to be starting on Tuesday, and one of the 306 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: segments that the Shadowy League figures aren't too sure about 307 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: that was broached as an idea. It was this is 308 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: not this is not gambling advice, but that that's basically 309 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: the segment and for you know, maybe we could try 310 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: it out here a little bit. It's like, this is 311 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: not gambling advice. But I'm a little shocked that the 312 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Falcons are huge favorites in this game, because this is 313 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: one of those games You're right, Dan, that they have 314 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: to just find anyway that they can to escape with 315 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: a victory, and I'm not so sure up front on 316 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: either side of the ball that they have the advantage. 317 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: I kind of see where the Desert people are coming 318 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: from in the sense that Thursday night opener is weird 319 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: to start with, and you're playing the Eagles and the 320 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: crowd and the banners going up. I wouldn't put too 321 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: much into one game a week, one game on a 322 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Thursday night, but they're not. They're not gonna be favorites 323 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: much longer if we keep seeing the way they look, Well, 324 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: did they not account for what the Panthers did last Sunday? 325 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: When they make this Desert it's all accounted for, and 326 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: the I think it's I think it's the injuries, especially 327 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: on Carolina. But keep an eye on Ian Thomas, who 328 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: really impressed the Panthers, had earned a role on that 329 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: team as a rookie tight end, which you don't really see. 330 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: He was already splitting snaps with Greg Olson and he 331 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: just is a physical beast who I think, if you're 332 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: in fantasy leagues, might be a guy that gets a 333 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: lot of targets because they are just not healthy in 334 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: Carolina at all. And I think Cam Newton loves throwing 335 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: the tight ends. North Turner loves tight ends. I could 336 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: see this rookie pretty big fact picked this game. I'm 337 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: just out of Panthers Falcons. I'm taking the Falcons, okay, 338 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: So let's see what happens. Uh. Moving on the Los 339 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. Uh laid a stinking egg in week one 340 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: against the chiefs Now they travel to Western New York 341 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: to face the Bills and no one laid a bigger 342 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: egg in week one then the Buffalo Bills forty seven 343 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: three loss, and Sean McDermott, although he says he he'll 344 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: take it to the grave that it was the right 345 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: decision to start Nade Peterman in week one. Well despite that, 346 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: despite that, that's strong hope he's not thinking about that 347 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: when he's you know what I mean, Like, I hope 348 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: he's thinking about his family and he has made the 349 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: move now to bench Peterman. Josh Allen, this is now 350 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: your team. You get a Charger's team Chris Westling that 351 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: will once again be without Joey Bosa, who is out 352 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: and definitely and that does not sound good what's going 353 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: on with his foot. So any chance that the Bills 354 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: shake off what was just a horrendous showing in Week 355 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: one against maybe a vulnerable Charges team. I feel like 356 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: I've been saying for five years, never underestimate the Bills 357 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: at home, but I think it's safe to underestimate the 358 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Bills at home. Speaking of strong convictions, when we did 359 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: the hot seat, Brackett, my strong convictions was that we 360 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: were giving Sean McDermott way too much credit because this 361 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: could be a like one in fifteen type of season, 362 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: and it certainly looks like that to me. That quote 363 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: that you said was just plain weird about Peterman will 364 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: take Let's actually let's hear the exact quote from coach McDermott. 365 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: Do you feel you miss m No, No, certainly looks 366 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: away from well listen. I felt like it was just 367 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: like this, I feel like it's the right move. I 368 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: felt like that was the right move. Um and and 369 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: I and I'll take that to my grave, And that's 370 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: how I felt about it. I'm always going to try 371 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: and make the right move for our football team. Sometimes 372 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna work out, sometimes it's not, And I stand 373 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: by it as a leader. I stand by those, both 374 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: the ones that work out and the ones that don't. 375 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: And then the fact that Zay Jones mom is telling 376 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: people that Zay had to tell Kelvin Benjamin where to 377 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: line up. This is this happened in the preseason. Bill's 378 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: receivers didn't know where to line up. What is going 379 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: on with this coaching staff. And when you're well and 380 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: when your mom is talking trash on the other receivers 381 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: and you're answering questions about that, that feels like a team. 382 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: It's like one of those Weeks sixteen seventeen stories of 383 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: a team falling apart. But this is Week two. And 384 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: as much as the Chargers charger last week, they did 385 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: have five forty yards and they did give up a 386 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: ton of points on special teams, which is kind of 387 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: what they do. But if if they can just not 388 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: make massive mistakes, not give a way points and special 389 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: teams not drop all of Philip Rivers is beautiful deep balls. 390 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean they should they should make some Hey, part 391 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: of Chargers charging beautiful. He's just beautiful deep balls, you know, 392 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: nice and down the field. Look at the family tree. 393 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I buy into it. Yeah, I just think charges charging 394 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with the fact that Philip 395 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: Rivers will throw for five yards, then throw the killer pick, 396 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: then the missfield goal will come. Then everyone, you know, 397 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: half the stadium is rooting for the other team and 398 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: everything crumbles. But I mean, West, I think part of 399 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: the reason that McDermott probably didn't rank as high as 400 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: he should have on the hot seat is that they've 401 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: had five head coaches under this ownership in five years 402 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: if you want to and the GM. I'm just saying, 403 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 1: the GM and the coach are in their kind and 404 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: it's literally the first full year with that the GM 405 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: might be gone to this is this is shaping up 406 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: to be an awful season. I think that I think 407 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: ownership would live with that because they essentially telegraphed that 408 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: they are taking a step back. And I do think 409 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: we shoul and at least give McDermott some credit that 410 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: they always stepped up. I mean we counted them out 411 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: a million different times last year, and whenever they were 412 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of at their worst, they would play a good game. 413 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: I I don't think this is some walk in the 414 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: park for the Chargers. Would not surprise me because thinks 415 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: every single NFL game is not a walk in the park. 416 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Well that's true, though it's by far the most. There's 417 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: never a huge favorite, but that's that's how the NFL 418 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: plays out. That's why there aren't huge favorites in the NFL, 419 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: because there are favorites there statistically that anything could happen 420 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: on any week, especially a right but no week, no 421 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: no week in the season like flip blops. Everything we 422 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: assumed for seven days, like week two because we haven't 423 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: seen football all season. So oh, but now we have 424 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: all this new information and then we have all counter information. 425 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: Sunday night, and if you think the Chargers, and you 426 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: know the Chargers number one Mark Sesler and the pain rankings, 427 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: They're going to travel three thousand miles and you're gonna 428 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: lock it, lock them in for a guaranteed victory. Showed 429 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: me something l a Chargers, so I'm allowed to lock 430 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: this game up. You know the rule, you guys. Just 431 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: you guys just told me that this was like an 432 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: even game. You tell me. Can you look in the mirror? 433 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: I think anyone you lock up anything, you guys, you 434 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: guys say this is I don't disappointed that. I don't care. 435 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: You can lock up whatever you want. Whatever makes your 436 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: heart content. That wouldn't make my heart content. Let's move on. 437 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings got their season off to a nice 438 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: start against the forty nine. Is a real nice start. 439 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: In fact, I thought they were one of the more 440 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: impressive teams in Week one. They now travel to Lambeau 441 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: to face the Packers. That the question is Greg Rosenthal 442 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: will be the Packers with the Shaan Kaiser quarterback or 443 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. It's very much up in the air. 444 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: I was worried that the news that Ian rapp Report 445 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: or NFL Network insider broke right as we were coming 446 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: up here that the Packers might not know Roger's status 447 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: till Saturday at the earliest, which makes it sound like 448 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: either probably not playing, or at the very least they're 449 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: just drawing this out as long as possible to keep 450 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: the Vikings not knowing, because if they don't know until 451 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Saturday at the earliest, my guests would be he's not 452 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: really going to be participating in practice much, if at all, 453 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: on Friday, and he and he hasn't yet. And it's 454 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: strange because he finished out that game last week, and 455 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: generally with a great player like that, if you finished 456 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: out the game before, you're probably gonna play the next week. 457 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: But they also have to think of the long game here. 458 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: It was great that he had that performance, but it 459 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: is a long season and they're not gonna do anything 460 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: to jeopardize Aaron Rodgers and that would basically end this 461 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: game before it started. If he doesn't play. Most likely, 462 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: I don't think Kaiser is ready to handle this Vikings 463 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: pass rush. I did like to think about that that 464 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: Kaiser gave a really good, supposedly uh inspirational speech in 465 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: the halftime locker room last week, but then he came 466 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: out and then he didn't play because they thought he 467 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: was he was playing, and he got Aaron Rodgers right. 468 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: Randall cob Like said, it fired everyone up and then 469 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: they got out there and it was like, oh, actually 470 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Aaron's gonna come back. Why is it that we haven't 471 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: heard any details on this knee? Well, essentially it's a sprain. 472 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's what Rogers said, right, So 473 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: that's a detail, isn't it, And that if you want 474 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: to have him play through a nice sprain, we'll see. Yeah, 475 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: he was dragging that leg around. It would not surprise 476 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: me if he doesn't play. That was my thought watching 477 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: that game, obviously, the adrenaline and his pumping and they're 478 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: on this comeback and Al Chris and Michelle are watching 479 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: the game, or is Louis Cannon said before the show? 480 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: It was al? What was it? Alan Jake? Jake, Alan 481 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Jake are the best on TV. Luis ad an ark 482 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: at temp post. He is very upfront that she's not 483 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: a huge NFL, that she's a huge Patriots fan, and uh, 484 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: that's fine, there's no problem. I have no issue with 485 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: similar to a lot of Patriots family. But it does, 486 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: it does trickle out. Sometimes you get these little fun 487 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: little a lot of deal. Mcnifico's like when she says, oh, yeah, 488 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: it was on Sunday, Alan Jake made the call J Jake, 489 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: I love you, Louise Cannon. This is this should be 490 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: like the best matchup, just about divisional matchup in the 491 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: end fl right now, if Rogers play, That's what I'm saying. 492 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: It's annoying because because the Vikings defense looks potentially even better. 493 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: That's how good Sheldon Richardson looked adding him to that mix. Yeah, 494 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: where was that Sheldon richards And last year um Seattle's 495 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: wonder well he didn't have everything. Griffin and Danielle I 496 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: refused to speak during this game segment. What's up? I 497 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: don't know, you just have an issue with it? I 498 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: got no, I just got a few minutes in. I thought, 499 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna now I'm speaking. So I totally were 500 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: you like low key? Do not like the Packers? No? Actually, 501 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: you know what, watching the watching what happened against the Bears, 502 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: despite them being the team of at L that was 503 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: pretty incredible. You'd have to be a walking corps, which 504 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: we almost were at that point in the night in 505 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: London to not enjoy that. Um, I I like Aaron Rodgers. 506 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Wait wait a second, they've got you through the whole preview. 507 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: Just get I did not do it. I did not 508 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: do it. Okay, we're gonna move on that. Please let 509 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: you well. I was waiting, we're gonna move on, but 510 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: then it just kept going. Pretty great analysis. That's something 511 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: I'll save it for Week three. The Cleveland Browns mark. 512 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: Now you're back in zero zero and one annoying head 513 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: to the Superdome to face the New Orleans Saints. And 514 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: this is a very interesting, uh set up for a 515 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: game mark for your Brownies because as frustrating as it 516 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: was not to close out that game, that was a 517 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: really positive step for the franchise to hang with the Steelers, 518 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: to nearly beat them, And now they go to face 519 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: the Saints. Last year, the Saints, you would have hated 520 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: to face them from October on, uh, and you could 521 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: chalk it up as a loss. But after they get 522 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: walloped and give forty eight points in Ryan Fitzpatrick, all 523 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, to quote your boy Kevin Garnett, greg 524 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: that anything is possible. Yeah. I mean the Saints team 525 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: also has started owing to four years in a row 526 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: they gave up five hundred yards. Ridiculous that right, and 527 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: last year in Week one and Week two they gave 528 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: up five hundred yards before they tightened up into the 529 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: defense that we came to love down the stretch. I 530 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: guess it's a strange game. I just I would wonder 531 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: what you'd have more faith than the Saints actually turning 532 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: around this week on defense or Cleveland's offensive line. And 533 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: I know you went back and watched this too, that 534 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't just the fact that t J. Watt turned 535 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: into an absolute nightmare. Well after watching that game, bon 536 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: Miller should have been defensive Player of the Week, not 537 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: t J. Watt. Well, I'm fine with that, but t J. 538 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: Watt did plenty to disrupt the bed. And it wasn't 539 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: just the offensive line. The Browns running backs and tight 540 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: ends got worked over. This was not just I mean 541 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: Desmond Harrison, who it was so weird hearing their sideline 542 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: reporter Mellie Melanie Collins, Hugh Jackson said that this guy 543 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: is when one of the most talented players in the team. 544 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas said, this guy can have a better career 545 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: than me if he gets his nose, and I it's 546 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: like it wasn't the what maybe it was it's week one, 547 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: it was insane weather, but he had he had too 548 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: than any offensive lineman in the league. They're a penalty 549 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: written unit that like. I think they set them back 550 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: last week big time, and do you get off the 551 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: can you fix that in a dome? I don't understand 552 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson skated by on this whole plan that he 553 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: had Joel but Tonio at left tackle all of the preseason, 554 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: which was working, and then he flipped it going into 555 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: Week one. Seemed very strange. I would be worried if 556 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: I was a Browns fan that they played eighty nine 557 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: snaps last week on offense and that's a heavy workload 558 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and now you have to go on 559 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: the road and play again the next week, right, I think. 560 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: I think that's a tough matchup. That said, I think 561 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: the Browns have enough defensive talent at least give the 562 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: Saints problems. It's a way different defense than Cleveland's ever 563 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: brought against the Saints before. The Breeze has lost to 564 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: them twice, which means nothing. I get that's a long 565 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: time ago, but he's never dealt with Myles Garrett on 566 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland's roster. Bill's Garrett like was a when a couple 567 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: of times when he came back up against Big Ben, 568 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: it was like the shadow of a front door swallowing 569 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: up big Ben. I've never seen anyone on a Cleveland 570 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: roster do that's a big bend before. And we talked 571 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: on about revenge games like this is a real revenge game. 572 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Sean Payton and Greg Williams legitimately despise each 573 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: other help for most people. And Sean Payton and Greg 574 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: Williams seems like your mailman. I hate that man. Uh. 575 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: So a big game for the Browns, and the Browns 576 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: sat and they play well. Uh and they again proved 577 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: themselves to be you know, a challenge for anybody. You're 578 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: feeling good winner lost here. As long as they're competitive, 579 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'd agree, I would not feel comfortable locking 580 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: up this game. M I get that one of the 581 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: teams that would be to their best start in fourteen years. Oh, 582 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: you're saying because the Saints are too heavy of a 583 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: favorite or because you think the Browns are a much 584 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: better team. Alright, let's move. We gotta find out for 585 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: right now, they're in the mix of the one with 586 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: the worst defense of the league, and they have to 587 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: prove that this could be a bad Saints here. They 588 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: happen a lot the data at our disposal is not 589 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: limited to Week one. It also involves what they've done 590 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: in their careers to date, right, and it's not it's 591 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of players who have played on a lot 592 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: of bad defenses. All right, let's move on. We head 593 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: to the meadow Lands where the Miami Dolphins. They played 594 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: a seven an hour game in an electrical storm and 595 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: it was a whole mess, but they took care of 596 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: business against the Tennessee Titoons. And now here come the Jets. 597 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: And we talked about the Jets on Wednesday show, and 598 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, how there's hope has walked 599 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: in the room and Sam Donald looked so great, uh 600 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: against the Lions and that defense, and this is what 601 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: we're starting. We'll start with the Jets, um West, the defense. 602 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: To me, Todd Bowls has been there, this is his 603 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: fourth year. But have we ever really seen the Jets 604 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: have a identity on defense since he's been there? I 605 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: would say no. But that defense against the Lions looked 606 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: like a team with an identity, fast, aggressive, young, and 607 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: that got you excited almost as much as Sam Donald playing. Well. Yeah, 608 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams especially, UM love watching that guy play. I 609 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: think the question is are they that damn good or 610 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: was this a product of stealing signs? They knew what 611 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: was coming from Matthew Stafford. They all talked about it 612 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: after the game. That is a huge factor. So this 613 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: is not part of the game. I was trying to 614 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of decipher what that actually meant if it's part 615 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: of the game. When you hear that every day, you 616 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: don't hear teams saying that. Was unusual to hear a 617 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: teams say it right after them. And it's also something 618 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: people have said about Jim Bob Cooter's offense before. UM 619 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: My question to you, Dan, you obviously have a lot 620 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: of feelings about the Jets, but people don't know you 621 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: kind of have some feelings about the Dolphins too. You 622 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: you'll usually have a good read on them, and you 623 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: like to like foil. You'd like to be a foil 624 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: for Henry a little bit. Well, I have a lot 625 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: of animosity for the Dolphins. They're they're an old rival. 626 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: They go back forever. I was at the Fake Spike 627 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: game in ninety four. Uh, so that you know, and 628 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: they've kind of been here. Uh, they've kind of been 629 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: on the same wavelength for the Jet with the Jets forever. Now, um, 630 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: do I have any I don't have anything. So my question, Yeah, 631 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: what is your question? The winner this team is going 632 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: to be two and up? Yes. Would you think that 633 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: the winner of this game is a legitimate wild card content? 634 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: I absolutely think so. Before the season, I I was 635 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: in a mail bag. I wrote a Dolphins fan said, 636 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: give me anything to be excited about, and I said, listen, 637 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: look at the a f C. Look at what's going 638 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: to happen once you get past the division winners. There 639 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: might be a wild card team that's also very good 640 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: at ten or eleven. One team, but from the perspective 641 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: of the summer, it felt like that sixth playoff spot's 642 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna be wide open. We're talking maybe not eight and 643 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: eight wide open, but a team that can win nine 644 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: games will get in the door. And I I think 645 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are a team that is in that mix. 646 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: And after you see the Jets in Week one at least, 647 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, the Jets can absolutely be in that mix. 648 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: And yes, the team that starts to and know here, 649 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that they won't be hanging 650 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: around in December. It's very exciting. Jets are a different 651 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: team with Quincy and na Like. I just I love 652 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: that guy. He adds a level of toughness. He got 653 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: a huge percentage of the targets, the energy just they need. 654 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: They need guys like that and between him, Crowl had 655 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: a good game. Powell like the field position. It was 656 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: a pretty complete performance. Like they it was all three phases. 657 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: They did more at least to impress in Week one 658 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: than the Dolphins did. For it's worth that said, the 659 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: Dolphins are forever getting slashed on this podcast, and largely 660 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: for for good reason. In years past, I did not 661 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: think they looked that bad enough. They didn't. It was 662 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: also I take the last third of that game and 663 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: almost throw it out the window because it was after 664 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: all these sillies and it it did truly turn silly. 665 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: But the Dolphins when they can run the ball, and 666 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: you saw I'd like that. I think that you were 667 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: talking about Frank Gore all last Sunday on Sky Sports. 668 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: He looked younger, he looked fresh. And when you can 669 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: get like Kenny still is playing the way he did, 670 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: Fit's Tannehill. To me, I get he's he is Ryan Tannehill. 671 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: But he was not a disaster in that game outside 672 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: of one terrible pick. Now, he didn't get a lot 673 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: of attention coming back from his torn a c O. 674 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: But he looked he looked like Ryan Tannell, and I 675 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: am contractually obligated to mention Frank to the inconvenient truth. 676 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: Gore is fifteen yards away from becoming the number four 677 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: all time leading Russia in NFL history. Emmett Smith, Walter Payton, 678 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders and Coral Gables High School's own Frank Gore 679 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: set in that mark just miles away from where he 680 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: grew up. You gotta love that. I feel like Greg's 681 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: played really to say some of these things. It's though, 682 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great story. It's a great 683 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: story if you look good, both of the running backs 684 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: look good, and you know, kiddingly, of course, I'm gonna 685 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: lock it up here. Oh yeah, let's go the jay man. 686 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: You can't take that. Lock it up two and oh 687 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: and we fly to Cleveland for Thursday night football. That 688 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: would be faced the one, one Brown, the O and 689 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: two Browns. That's that's a good chancey After that Thursday 690 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: night they can be number one in the entire NFL. 691 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: Three and oh what if Cleveland didn't everyone Cleveland does 692 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: not go. They did not go in sixteen. They do 693 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: not go sixteen, and know they go, oh in sixteen, 694 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: that would be that would be more amazing one in sixteen, 695 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: I honestly think that would be the most way would 696 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: be like season of all time? Would you be the 697 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: number one seed in the a C. Well, according to you, 698 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: it's not a win. Mark didn't lock it up, so 699 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: obviously it wouldn't be anything would mean a thirty second 700 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: and sixteen now they would have a change, they would 701 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, unless five you would win a tiebreaker against uh, 702 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: well not at eight and eight team right, let's that's 703 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. Wait, we've got someone's got to find 704 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: out the instant What do you mean it's it's it's 705 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: five hundred. They they have a five hundred record, and 706 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: then after that the tiebreakers just right now, so I 707 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,959 Speaker 1: don't get if they were oh in sixteen there five high, 708 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: I should get half a lock. Then I think it's 709 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: safe to say team in the place, how would they 710 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: be five hundred if they have sixteen ties? That's just 711 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: how it is, wins and lost, and I should get 712 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: half half a lock for maybe of course, the Kansas 713 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: City Chiefs head to Pittsburgh. Yes, the Steelers also zero 714 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: hyphen zero hyphen one uh, and the Chiefs looked as 715 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: dangerous as advertised against the Chargers, just lighting them up. 716 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: Um at the We're the Chargers play what's the name 717 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: of that place again, the Charger Stadium the stock Bill 718 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: Bottom anyway, So here's a game, uh, Greg Rosenthal where 719 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers really want to just play better and play 720 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: better at home. But Big Ben has an injury issue here, 721 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: and when Big Ben's hurt, they're not the same team. 722 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: He hasn't practiced Wednesday or Thursday. His status seems up 723 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: in the air. But it seems like one of those 724 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger weeks where everyone fully expects him to play. Anyways, 725 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: despite Josh Dobbs getting first team snaps. Uh, it does. 726 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: I think we are you as a Steelers fan, because 727 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: this is a sneaky good rivalry. I think the last 728 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: few years played a couple of times, including in the 729 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: playoffs two years ago. They've been back and forth, and 730 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a big game in the a f C. 731 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: One of these one of these you know teams we 732 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: already talked about two and oh in the a f 733 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: C North, and it's a tough matchup for a Steelers defense. 734 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: I think that has to be concerned in the secondary 735 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: more than than any place on their team. And if 736 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: you have problems in the secondary, this Chief's team is 737 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: the type of team to expose it. I'm not flat 738 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: out calling Big Ben a drama queen, but he does 739 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: have a long storied history of playing up his injuries 740 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: in his defense. Randy Fair, the offensive coordinator, said, I 741 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to answer that at this point whether 742 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: he expects Big Ben to play, so Ben's not the 743 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: only one playing up the injury this week. It is 744 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: a good rivalry, I guess. But big Ben is six 745 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: and ones and against the Chiefs, and they're the one 746 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: team that it hasn't been a million matchups that have 747 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: slowed down Tyreek Hill more than any other team the league. 748 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: This feels like a different Tyreek Hill to me though, 749 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: what he's being used to Patrick Mahomes, I mean, if 750 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: I were the Chiefs, the one thing I want to 751 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: see is a little bit more out of Travis Kelsey 752 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: this week, because if you can have him going alongside 753 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, I mean, I think Pittsburgh which down the 754 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 1: stretch gave up some big passing plays against the Browns 755 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: last week, hidden in a bunch of junk. Uh, they 756 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: could be in trouble. West, Did you do any more 757 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: journalistic deep diving on the background? How player of the 758 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: week is chosen? Because I know if you so Wednesday's 759 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: show or listen to Wednesday's show West on Fire, that 760 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and not Tyreek Hill awarded player of the week. 761 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: I had no intention of ever doing any kind of 762 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: journalistic Barry Kill was the best player on the field 763 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: last week. I'm with you. I sent one tweet to 764 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: NFL PR guy and I have not heard back. It 765 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: was it wasn't a good performance by the Chiefs defense overall, 766 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: but they did get a big game out of d Ford, 767 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: which they could really use, and Chris Jones as well 768 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: last week. So like that, there's some little in the second, 769 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: you're basically waving a stake in front of the a 770 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: t N media inside er saying, Dan, you go find that, 771 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: go get the ends. Well, you are a journal in 772 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: marks an in trepid journal and Greg you know he 773 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: has done some journalism before. I don't think I've ever 774 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: been a journalist Greg has done. He's hung out with journalists. 775 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that the QB index is journalism. Now, 776 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: none of what are uncomfortable players? What are the rules 777 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: with you know, journalism. What are the rules of lockups 778 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: and like quarterback injuries and whatnot? Because if Ben's playing, 779 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: and I'm fully expecting him to play, If Ben's playing, 780 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers rebound and I'm going to lock 781 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: that up. But it's a fair You gotta hang with 782 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: you gotta hang with whatever. If you if you lock 783 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: up a team with a quarterback uncertainty, you gotta gotta 784 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: ride the lightning. Yeah, I mean there there are people 785 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: tracking this, Greg. There's a Twitter account devoted to this. 786 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: Don't we know Big Ben's gonna play? I don't know 787 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: he'll play. Whether he'll be effective will be another question. 788 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: Let's move on the Philadelphia Eagles up. By the way, 789 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: we heard it, we got it. We had the whole 790 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: sound effect. The Eagles. Uh. They played last Thursday, eighteen 791 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: twelve win over the Falcons. Their defense did a good 792 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: job stuffing Atlanta repeatedly inside their own ted yard line, 793 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: and the offense I guessed it just enough. Now they 794 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: travel to Tampa to face the Bucks, who we know 795 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: all about it. Uh. Speaking of players of the week 796 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, who went nuts uh win against the Saints, 797 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: we get to see what he can do against the Eagles. 798 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: Mark your thought. So, there are a few things that 799 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: I hate more in football West will agree than the 800 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: horrid site of Tampa's overly lit sun bla lasted field 801 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: of game pass him one of the worst things around. 802 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: That said, there are a few things I adore more 803 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: than what the Bucks did last Sunday, blowing up an 804 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: off season of presumptions while Ginger bearded Ryan Fitzpatrick through 805 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: more touchdowns of thirty plus eight yards against the Saints 806 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: than jam Jamis Winston through all last season. I can't 807 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: wait to see what happens to the NFL community when 808 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: they knock off the Eagles. To start to and oh 809 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: he's locking it up. I thought, I really did. I 810 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: really did think about it. Sorry, Eric, Erica's like, after 811 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 1: fourteen days of listening to you all talk non stop, 812 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: you do this, you know, but not that I give 813 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: you guys a lot of credit that you guys that 814 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: we thought about it, Like Dan has compared us to 815 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, incredible heroes that have fought for a country, 816 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: and I think comparison different types of hero Yeah, I 817 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: was gonna say they compare someon be way off, but 818 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying even great more heroes just just like 819 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: we cannot understand what it would be like to be 820 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: in battle, they don't understand. It was like three podcasts 821 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: in one week. It's a lot to deal with. I 822 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: think you guys are smart not to lock it up 823 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: because the best group in this game is still the 824 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: Eagles defensive. I wrote a c poem this week to 825 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: the Bucks Receiving Corps Top ten Receiving Corps NFL dot 826 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: com slash west. Are they number one? They are number 827 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: two behind the Chiefs. But they are like the old 828 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh idea that your wide receivers should be like 829 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: a basketball team. You don't want like five big, tall 830 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: X receivers. They should complement each other. And the Bucks 831 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: receivers complement each other as well as anyone. Tight ends 832 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: are counted in this tight ends and you're receiving backs, 833 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: they're all Barkins as a as your number one or 834 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: two receiver, he's not the number one. Tyreek Hill is 835 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: one of the best receivers in the NFL. Don't give 836 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: me that this Travis Kelsey is an all pro tight end. 837 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: They use Kareem Hunt very well. The Chiefs are there, 838 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks. The big winner of week one Todd Monkin, 839 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: who took over play and had a great game. You 840 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: compared him to kind of like the Matteneggie boost that 841 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs got last year. Greg, you compared him that 842 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: in your debrief. Calm and this guy, like if this 843 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: keeps up, and that's a big if, people are gonna 844 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: be talking about him as a head coach. It's already Meanwhile, 845 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: it's already not too soon to worry that Nick Foles 846 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: is just back to being bad Nick Foles. But now 847 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: we'll get a good idea because the Bucks, they can't 848 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: defend anybody, right, is the bigger jackal and hide quarterback 849 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: in this game? That's a good question. But we what 850 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: we know is that Folls look very bad. It's very 851 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: bad in week one, and if it looks really real 852 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: bad and week two. I wonder how that meshes with 853 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles decision about how much they're going to wait 854 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: on Carson Wentz. I don't know if that can have 855 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: anything to do with wins. I mean, the one thing 856 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: about you got a Super Bowl in your pocket and 857 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: think term saying these guys very competitive, winning and losing 858 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: stress pressure. Let's see what happens. He's got they need 859 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: him to play better. Well, this isn't the Falcons defense, 860 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: so I would I would assume we would get the 861 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 1: better Nick Foles if we don't time to be concerned. 862 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's move on the Houston Texans. Uh, they couldnot hang 863 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: with the Patriots in Week one. I guess they hung 864 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: with him, but they just never really came close to 865 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: getting over the hump. Now they travel uh to Tennessee 866 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: to face the Tytoons, who uh fell in Miami and 867 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: week one. Uh, here's the game, Chris Westling, where Deshaun 868 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: Watson is going to be uh looking to shake off 869 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: the rust because there was a lot of it in 870 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: Week one. Yeah, Tony Romo was killing him for his 871 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: pre snap decisions in the second half of that game, 872 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: especially down the stretch, which isn't surprising. He's what got 873 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: like five starts under his belt in the NFL, So 874 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: it's not going up against Bill Belchick, who had an 875 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 1: offseason to prepare for it too. But from the Titans 876 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: point of view, I try not to take any grand 877 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: sweeping conclusions out of a game that was the longest 878 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: in NFL history and the hottest game the Titans have 879 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: played this century. Uh, there were some mitigating factors there, 880 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: but Mariota was terrible before the injury. I was gonna say, 881 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: I did not, and I think this is a one 882 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: game sample when Blaine Gabbert came in and Blaine Gabbert's 883 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: playing Gabert, I did not see a major drop off 884 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: in that one game from Mariotta Mariotta to to to 885 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert. The one thing I really like about this 886 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: year's Titans is versus the Derrick Henry DeMarco Murray pair. 887 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: The Derrick Henry Dion Lewis pair works for me. I 888 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: I think this is a good They had a good 889 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: situation on the ground, and I the Titans offense part 890 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: of Mariota's issues. He's had what five coaches and four 891 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,479 Speaker 1: years or something like four and five, and they've had 892 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: such low wattage skill position players. You see little moments 893 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: from Corey Davis. You see little moments here and there, 894 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: and I think they could develop into something better down 895 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: the stretch. I might be the only person in the 896 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: country that also likes their new uniforms the horrible. I 897 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: like the I like the whole ones. I don't We'll 898 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: see the home Yeah, and all the Titans fans are 899 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna get mad because I say tytoons and stuff. Do 900 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: you think I'm just piling on? I legitimately think they 901 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: look like CFL uniforms, But that's just mys look like 902 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: a a throwback to the like the ninth I think 903 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: I like it. Greg. What did you see from J J. 904 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: Watton Week one? Yeah? I think he played pretty well 905 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: in the second well, yeah, second half. I looked up 906 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: in the third quarter and I was like, oh, J J. 907 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: Watson there, and then he was there for the rest 908 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: of the game, right, And and he talked about that 909 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 1: during the week too, that he felt like it almost 910 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: took him a while to even get back to feeling 911 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: but then feeling like who he was again as a player, 912 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: and then then he was creating a lot of pressure. 913 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: I think if you're a Texans fan, you have to 914 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: be excited they're at They're the healthier team here. Taylor 915 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: Taylor Luan is hurt. Mariota is playing, but he's not 916 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: looking right, and it's not just one game, because he 917 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: did not look right in the preseason either of Shawn 918 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: Evans like. They have a lot of injuries on that Titans. 919 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: You know what else went well for the Texans. Kareem 920 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: Jackson moving to safety, had a great game. Uh A 921 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: fun little nug from our beautiful week two research and notes. 922 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: Jeff Greenholtz and everybody does a great job downstairs. On 923 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 1: game day, it will be seven and twenty eight days 924 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: since J. J. Watts left Sack. I love j J. 925 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: Walk Let's stack them quarterback takedowns. Let's take a brief 926 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: pause here to throw it to the quiet storm. In 927 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: ninety nine, the United States Army took on a covert 928 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: project to construct Camp Century, a military scientific research base 929 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: nestled below the icy depths of Greenland, then a county 930 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: of Denmark, Falling under the top secret umbrella of Project 931 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: Ice Warm. The complex was to serve as a launch 932 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 1: site for nuclear missiles within an arm's reach of Soviet Russia. 933 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: Eight meters below the ice. Camp Century came laced with 934 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,919 Speaker 1: a network of twenty one tunnels running more than three 935 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: thousand meters in length. The secret base house laboratories, a shop, 936 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: a hospital, a cinema, a chapel, and accommodation for as 937 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: many as two hundred soldiers. The operation was so off 938 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: the radar that Danish government officials were unaware of its existence. 939 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 1: The whole thing went south, though, when military brass jump 940 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: ship on Project ice Worm after realizing the constantly moving 941 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: ice was too unstable and would have to do would 942 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: potentially deform and perhaps even collapse the tunnels below. But sure, 943 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: let's go back to discussing a sport where men run 944 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: around in tights, white pants and grab grabbing at each 945 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: other while doing hop scotch in the end zone. At 946 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 1: the end of that read should I read that lass 947 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: sentence again? What? What about? What about Mr Flames economics class? 948 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: That's not a Mr Flame read? Let me read that 949 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: less sentence? So we're leaving all of this in though, 950 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: Go ahead, lessons, right, But sure, let's go back to 951 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: discussing a sport where men run around in tights and 952 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: gather at each other while doing hop scotch in the 953 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: end zone. I don't know what that lessen means. My favorite, 954 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: can we clip that's a real thing? By the way, 955 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: can we clip tampos? Saying? What are you even talking? 956 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: About I feel like that would be a good sound 957 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: drop in general, that would be a great sound moving 958 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: right along. The Indianapolis Cults are oh and one after 959 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: loss to the Bengals in Week one, and now they 960 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: travel to Washington to face the Redskins, who looked mighty nice. 961 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal against the Cards in Week one, the no 962 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: road team, Uh really was more control outside maybe the 963 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: Jets in Week one than the Cardinals than the Redskins. 964 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: Excuse me. They looked awesome. And if we hadn't already 965 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: chosen the Bears of the team of a t L, 966 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: I think I would be I think I would be 967 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: promoting the Redskins as a possibility long a team that 968 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: I've basically rooted against year after we filed by you. Yeah, 969 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: basically the one team I I pretty much admit I'm 970 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: just biased. I'm rooting against you don't like the operation, 971 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: But this this year, they just feel they feel different, 972 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: and I throughout the offseason defensively but especially offensively, I 973 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be really fun to watch. And I 974 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: really do believe that it's going to be them in 975 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles for the NFC East, and I think the 976 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: Redskins can be a playoff team. I'm with you. I 977 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: I think everyone kind of slept on the Redskins in 978 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: the off season just because the Cowboys and the Eagles 979 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: and the Giants had maybe or sexy storylines around them. 980 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: But they look so good and week wanted and that 981 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: division if I figures to be I don't know. If 982 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: there's a dominant team in that division, why can't it 983 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: be the Red Skin. I was hard to sign up 984 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: for them because for me, and I know a little 985 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,919 Speaker 1: bit of West as well, all of us have sort 986 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: of fallen for them for periods and then they just 987 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: disappoint you while other more established teams get the job done. 988 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: But to me, it's about fit because we know about 989 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, West have been talking about him for weeks. 990 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: But Chris Thompson and you get Alex Smith. The way 991 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: these three pieces fit together, with Jordan Reid on the 992 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: outside too. This offense, to me, is one They dominated Arizona. 993 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: They just had their way and the way that they 994 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: rent went down the field in the two minute warning 995 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: before halftime to get it to twenty one points versus 996 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: fourteen or nothing or seventeen, That to me was Alex 997 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 1: Smith playing at the top of his game and directing 998 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: that offense in a way where he's completely at home. 999 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: And the Redskins would have been completely good team of 1000 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: a t L pick had not been the Bears. Chris 1001 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 1: Thompson said he's not gonna be healthy to till November 1002 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: after that devastating Legan. He looks so explosive. If he's 1003 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: not healthy, what are we? I mean like he looked 1004 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: faster than like eighteen other human beings I've ever seen 1005 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 1: in my life. They're linebackers in front. Seven look really good, 1006 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: their linebackers and it's so underrated. Yeah, and Jonathan Allen 1007 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 1: looks awesome. And you mentioned the fit for Alex Smith. 1008 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 1: It's like the fit of Jay Gruden and Alex Smith, 1009 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 1: to me is the most important fit. And for whatever reason, 1010 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: Jay Gruden never seemed to really wrap his arms around 1011 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Stop. It's his revisionist history. It's total. It's 1012 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: just true, and it's the type of three straight years. 1013 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: He said, Kirk Cousins is the kind of quarterback you 1014 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: build a franchise around. Consistently said that bob burying him, 1015 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: bob burying him off the record, that's not hard to read. 1016 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: Between the lines. Stop. Stop, this is totally wrong. It's 1017 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: it's false, it's not correct. He stood behind Kirk Cousins 1018 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: until the day he found out Kirk Cousins wasn't gonna 1019 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: be there anymore, and then he turned on him. But 1020 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: Jay Gruden every time went to the met for Kirk 1021 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: while burying him behind the scenes, just not almost three 1022 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: times taking a karate chop to the head from West. 1023 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying this is j Gruden's organization. I would put 1024 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: him in the top three or four in terms of 1025 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: head coaching power. Whatever happens in this organization is what 1026 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: Jay Gruden wants to happen. And he got this Alex 1027 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: Smith trade done. He said goodbye to Kirk Cousins. It 1028 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: is a financial thing, obviously to and all I'm saying 1029 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: is he's really excited to have Alex Smith and it 1030 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: might be a better fit. I'll tell you one good fit. 1031 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: Me and this team, the Redskins locking it up. I 1032 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 1: like it. I gotta win this one. Well, yes, Mark 1033 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: and I fell in week one in the Locks West 1034 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: and Greg uh one to oh uh so where one 1035 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: game back is a lot of ball game. I mean 1036 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: I can go pool like a dozen quotes Greg a 1037 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: dozen at least, and they are more glowing than any 1038 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: coach talking in any quarterback? What are these are well 1039 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: known for being totally trustworthy when I've never seen any 1040 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: reports that like the John Gruden or Jay Gruden doesn't 1041 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: trust Kirk did cut against the grain too? Put Kirk 1042 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: Cousins in over r G three. Yeah, when that was 1043 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: not popular with a lot of fans and stuff, I 1044 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 1: thought that. I mean, that's some people say when two 1045 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: people that you know are kind of going at it. Oh, 1046 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable. I'm like really comfortable when West and Greg 1047 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: start going at it. It's like I'm in like like 1048 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: a warm like wool sweater on a brisk New England 1049 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: like November morning. It's little chrispfire dust off a little 1050 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: do alright. Moving on the Cardinals. They were defeated by 1051 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: the Redskins in Week one, and uh their reward for 1052 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: a tepid showing at home to start the season is 1053 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: a trip to Los Angeles to face the Rams who 1054 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: whooped up on the Raiders. And we didn't really get 1055 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: a chance to talk about the late Monday night game 1056 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: on Wednesday's show. Uh So, before we get into this matchup, 1057 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, I was curious your thoughts about what the 1058 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 1: Rams did, specifically in the second half where they really 1059 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: just turned it on. Well, that to me was an 1060 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: example of because I the Raiders surprised me to hang 1061 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: around the way they did. As long as they did, 1062 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 1: they're winning a half, right, But the Rams, you have 1063 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: to go toe to toe the entire way because they 1064 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: have too many people that can wear you down. It's 1065 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: their defensive line, it's Todd Gurley, it's the way that 1066 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: they used Jared Goff and his wide receivers. You've gotta 1067 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: be on top of it, play after play, and as 1068 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: soon as the Raiders started to show any cracks the 1069 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: this is what the Rams did last year, and this 1070 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: is why I think they'll do against the Cardinals again. 1071 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: You might keep them quiet for a quarter or two, 1072 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: but then they'll have that quarter where they dropped seventeen 1073 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: twenty points on you and there's no way to cap 1074 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: catch up. And the Rams, to me, because I had 1075 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: I had questions about continuity. Are we gonna see what 1076 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: we saw last year in an improvement? I think Jared 1077 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: Goff is notable noticeably more comfortable and some of the 1078 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 1: stuff where they had to coach him before the snap. 1079 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: He's doing something, they said, He's doing some of that 1080 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: just simply on his own. Now he's an extension of 1081 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. And this Ram Rams team does not 1082 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: look any less powerful on offense. And the Cardinals who 1083 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: laid a total egg last week, how do you climb 1084 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: out of that? With the offense they showed. The Cardinals 1085 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 1: aren't good and Bradford played bad, but their offensive line 1086 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: and their wide receivers were even worse. This is to me, 1087 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: this looks like a total rebuild year. And I had 1088 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: higher expectations than that for them. I mean, non Larry 1089 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald receivers whiteouts had a total of four yards in 1090 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: that game. I mean that that's a problem. And I 1091 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: also think that Aaron Donald and the Rams as a 1092 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 1: whole have showed the preseason and maybe even training camp 1093 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 1: a little bit to be a little bit of overrated. 1094 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: If you were doing a little winners and losers, it's 1095 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: like training camp in the preseason are wildly overrated. If 1096 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack and all the guys that 1097 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: essentially overrated for the best players in the NFL. Sure, 1098 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: but they showed up five or six days ahead of 1099 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: time and they play sixty five snaps. And by the way, 1100 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was awesome in that game. Don't you think 1101 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: they're the exception to the rule because they're just that good. 1102 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: If you have Sean McVeigh and Aaron Donald, you can 1103 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: get away with it. Okay. They also the Ram the 1104 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: Rams skipped it. I just think the fact that any 1105 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: of these players can show up after missing that much work. 1106 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas was another one, and just we're outstanding right away. 1107 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: It's starving magnifico for the NFL. I don't know if 1108 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: it is for the whole leg. It's star players who 1109 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: know the playbook, because least used to be like, oh, 1110 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: you're a meat you're working a meat packing plant, and 1111 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: now you got to come to camp and get in shape. 1112 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: It's like these guys are in optimum shape, but of 1113 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: the players who don't are trying to get on the 1114 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: roster and trying to keep roster spots. I think it's 1115 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: more it's a separate issue. But the Rams offense sitting 1116 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: out the preseason didn't didn't hurt them either. Uh And 1117 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: I know I get it. By the way, you you 1118 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: paid Sam Bradford twenty million dollars. But let's get Josh 1119 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: Rosen on that field. You're a team for the future, 1120 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: your planet, you're building for the future. It's gonna happen soon, 1121 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: probably just because they're not very good. But that's not 1122 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: it's they're not setting up Rosen for success either. I 1123 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: know that. But at a certain point, Sam Bradford is 1124 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: one of the last guys in the whole league that 1125 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: I would pick to be shepherding a team that is 1126 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 1: so clearly not ready for the now Bradford, I don't 1127 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,919 Speaker 1: know where Bradford fits in, maybe like the Vikings last 1128 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: year if you could have stayed healthy, But I don't 1129 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: see what they're gaining from how he's a progress stopper 1130 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: was that's what he is. I agree. When you look 1131 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: at this team, it's like, why even bother throwing, say 1132 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: a Braveford out with that offense. And we were told 1133 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: all through the pre drift process that Rosen was the 1134 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: most pro ready guy. I'm just saying, I'm sure it 1135 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: will work itself out in a couple of weeks. What 1136 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,439 Speaker 1: do you think by October? I'm gonna say week four. 1137 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he's not starting by Week four, 1138 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: that wasn't surprised. Long could be their first Rams to 1139 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 1: no start, I think since the early nineties. If yeah, 1140 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: if they win, and you do you do kind of 1141 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: look at the NFC in general in this division. I 1142 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think it's a great NFC West, 1143 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,720 Speaker 1: and I do think the Rams. The Rams are obviously 1144 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl or bus type of team. I think 1145 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 1: they're a team that's in a good position to get 1146 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 1: a buy. Well, I thought you were gonna go all 1147 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: the way and say they were into position too. Maybe 1148 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not a bad it's not a 1149 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: bad schedule that the Rams have. I have no worry 1150 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: about them whatsoever, just because Sean McVeigh is that good alright. 1151 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: Moving on the Detroit Lions. No one looked worse UH 1152 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: in their own building than the Lions in Week one. 1153 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: They were completely outclassed by the Jets UH in a 1154 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: seventeen loss, and now they travel to San Francisco UH 1155 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: to face the forty Niners UH West. Even before that 1156 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: Lions game on Monday night, UM, I thought that there 1157 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: was a potential situation of Detroit going into a buzz 1158 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: sow with Kyle Shanahan and Garoppolo getting out of Minnesota 1159 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: and getting healthy, I feel that, well, I'm more strongly. 1160 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: My feeling about that is more strong than ever after 1161 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: what I saw on Monday night? What do you think? 1162 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,479 Speaker 1: I agree? And it's the other side of the ball 1163 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: that I was going to concentrate on that The forty 1164 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: Niners defense, even in a loss, looked really good. And 1165 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: where is this Lion's running game? We heard about all August, 1166 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: all offseason that they have fixed their running game. Finally 1167 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: they got the offensive line, They've got the running backs. 1168 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: This forty Niners team held Dalvin Cook under fifty yards rushing. 1169 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 1: And then you're come, You're coming into San Francisco with 1170 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: your veterans complaining about a coach. And I don't know 1171 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: if Matt Patricia will ever be a good coach. I 1172 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: don't know if he's good coach now. But I do 1173 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,919 Speaker 1: know these lines veterans have accomplished nothing. So why should 1174 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: I believe they know how to win? Who are who 1175 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: do you think? Who are these veterans we speak? I've 1176 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: thought about Glover. Glover, Quinn is not playing as much. 1177 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: He's been probably their best player on defense. He's about 1178 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: as respected as any I'm not going to guess who's 1179 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: talking about it, none of it. They might be. I 1180 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 1: was really interested to see that he wasn't playing as much, 1181 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: and there's some talk that he might even not even 1182 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 1: be starting. I was like, wow, Glover, Clint Quinn's kind 1183 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: of been amazing. So that's like a veteran leader. That's right, 1184 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: but he doesn't fit apparently. Any other thoughts about this game, gentleman, 1185 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: any concerns at all about Jimmy G after that game? 1186 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: A couple of bad decisions, a couple of great throws. 1187 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: I think this is one of the best matchups you 1188 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: can possibly have is the Detroit Lions defense right now. 1189 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: They've shown that in the preseason and then in Week one. 1190 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: I almost feel like getting to you too, the way 1191 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: you finished last year, and it was bound to there's 1192 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: going to be all these questions when he has what 1193 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: is expectedly down to earth performance here and they're like, oh, 1194 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, are we jumping ship on Jimmy G. It's 1195 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: like he's gonna be fine. Every game he makes a 1196 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: thrower two, you're like, wow. My advice to Matt Patricia 1197 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: is after seeing him on the sideline like about four 1198 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: shots from ESPN. Breathe, big fella, Maybe talk to some 1199 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: of the other other your coaches on the sideline, try 1200 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: to enjoy yourself, because he did not look like a 1201 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: guy who was having any fun in week mart Sell 1202 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 1: used to get nailed for that. For just sort of 1203 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: thousand yards stare for like fifteen straight minutes, where it's 1204 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: excuse me, sir, um, can we just get you back? Registered? 1205 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: Mark's good when he's not certain to play in this game, 1206 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: probably sounds like he's not in. Dante Pettis might end 1207 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: up being like the number one receiver on this team 1208 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: for this week or while Goodwin is gone, which is 1209 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,479 Speaker 1: why good Week one look all right. Moving on the 1210 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, who were outclassed in the second half of 1211 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: Monday night football against the Rams in the black Hole. 1212 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: Now they travel to Denver to face the Broncos. Um, Greg, 1213 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna set you up on this now, the Broncos, Uh, 1214 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: and West I on your advice because you're you're talking 1215 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: them up so much. Uh. I watched the Broncos this morning, 1216 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: and I totally agree. Actually I that I think that 1217 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 1: was the to me, the best game of Week one. 1218 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: It's just the fun back and fourth games in Philip 1219 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Lindsay fun to watch. Philip Lindsay is very fun to watch. 1220 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: And Von Miller when he just stole that like a 1221 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: loaf of bread. He was awesome in the game. Emmanuel Sanders, Please, 1222 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: but that said what what I was saying on Wednesday Lacrosse. 1223 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 1: That guy was great. What I was saying before I 1224 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: watched the game. I feel the same. And even more so, 1225 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: my boy case Keenan could he could have thrown five 1226 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: or six interceptions in that game he got he got 1227 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: hit with three, but he could easily thrown at least five. Um, So, Greg, 1228 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: I'll start there. They looked they really looked much much 1229 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: better on offense. But did Keenan terrify you at all? Watching? 1230 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: And we gets the Seahawks because he was pretty loose? 1231 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: He was he was loose. He's gonna be a little scary. 1232 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: But I kind of think that's what they're gonna just 1233 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: have to be. And I because I don't think this 1234 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be a great defense. They had some ager 1235 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: meltdowns in the secondary. Uh, and so I think if 1236 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders are gonna throw vertical like this is a 1237 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: week to do it. There was a miscommunication that was 1238 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: a that was a pretty dominant performance. It should not 1239 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: have been four. They doubled them up in terms of 1240 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: first downs, and so Keenum kind of kept the Seahawks 1241 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: in the game. I I don't know it should Should 1242 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: the Broncos be heavy, heavy favorites in this game. Are 1243 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: we already at the point where just we're trusting them 1244 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: to win? I guess I'm not quite there yet. They 1245 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: should be favorites to the extent that what I'm blocking 1246 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: them up. Good for you, Good for you. Broncos are 1247 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: my team this year. The Bears are my team of course, 1248 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, loyal to the team of a t L. 1249 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: But not surprising, we each already have like second team 1250 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: of a t L stacked behind the Bears. The Bears 1251 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: got a show with something weak too that goes without 1252 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: saying the Raiders. Meanwhile, it will give them a little 1253 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: love is a strong word. But how did you evaluate 1254 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 1: their performance west On on Monday Night? They stink? That's 1255 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean. Derek Carr played really well in the first 1256 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: half when ja when John Gruden was scripting the plays, 1257 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: and then his second half the knock on him even 1258 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: before he entered the league as he doesn't handle pressure well. 1259 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: And he didn't handle pressure well. And you've got Grooden 1260 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: in the days following coming out and essentially sort of 1261 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: calling out Derek Carr for not seeing a Marii Cooper 1262 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: downfield to the press, Why why do that? Although we 1263 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: know that that's a tick of Gruden. Yeah, I think 1264 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: he's just loose, you know what I mean. I just 1265 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: think he was saying what he thinks and then he 1266 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: sometimes he just gets loose and he ends up throwing 1267 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: players under the bus a little bit. In Car's defense, 1268 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: it was not a good performance by their offensive line. 1269 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: And that was the thing that stuck out stood out 1270 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: about the Raiders two years ago. Some of those throws 1271 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: he just threw up for Greg There's no defense for that, right, 1272 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: But Colton Miller at a bad game, assembly got worked. 1273 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean everyone gets worked against Aaron Donald, but Donald 1274 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: pends on a different side and that was I'm just 1275 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: saying that was the strength of the team. He was 1276 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 1: protected better than any quarterback in league too years ago, 1277 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 1: and that doesn't seem to be the case, and that's 1278 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,919 Speaker 1: going to be a problem. Shout out to Leon Hall 1279 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: written off by about eight different teams, thirty something years 1280 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: old and looked like their best defensive player in that game. 1281 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Let's move on the New England Patriots. Life still good 1282 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: on the throne of ease. Uh. They took care of 1283 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 1: business at home against the Texans. All of a sudden, 1284 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Erica plugs in. She's paying attention to Are we kind? 1285 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Are the Is it the same watching the Pats now 1286 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: that you're beloved Danny Amendola is playing in South Beach. No. 1287 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, it's the same. Yeah, okay, 1288 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: who is your new Danny? There isn't. I mean Edelman suspended, 1289 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: so like this, I'm just sort of cruising until week 1290 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: four five essentially. Yeah, you like those bad boys? Yeah, definitely, 1291 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: it's anyway the Pats want to know. They now travel 1292 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. This is a great, great game. It's the 1293 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: I would I hazard to guess, but it has to 1294 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 1: be the Phil Simms Jim Nance special Uh Pats Jags 1295 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: rematch of the a f C Championship game mark that 1296 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 1: the Jags let slip away. This is a good one, 1297 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: breaking news, Phil Sims back in the booth, I didn't 1298 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: even know Dan said that he Dan must have said 1299 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Phil Sims. I said, Sims, Yeah, I believe. I believe 1300 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: we still have like Simson Romo at the same level 1301 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: of greatness. So sometimes I just yes, Tony Romo and 1302 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Jim Nance. They're actually bringing Sims back for Bengals Browns. Well, good, good, well, 1303 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: good for Phil? Where is Phil these days? By the way, 1304 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: is he got inside the NFL and HBO? Yeah, and 1305 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: he's on their pregame. He's on CBS pregame show doubles. Okay, 1306 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 1: don't cry for Phil, Sims called. It's a reassignment. They 1307 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 1: move you to a different part of the media. Limb. 1308 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: Phil feels Okay, Phil's got a couple of rings coming 1309 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: for all of us, right, it's it's coming for us. 1310 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing like the I don't know how 1311 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,919 Speaker 1: could we get the moded I was trying to drive 1312 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: time's trying to think of, like what do they think 1313 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: less of than podcasts? But they don't. So in this company, 1314 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a demotion we can get in 1315 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: terms of speaking, I can think of a few maybe 1316 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: maybe like we're just like we're in that social blue room, 1317 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, like all all the young all the young 1318 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: NFL workers are in one room where they're King Bryce 1319 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: gust Of since people in the middle of magical couch, 1320 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: I know what will be producing the broadcast. We'll be 1321 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: behind the glass with only one person allowed to speak 1322 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: and naked. All right, here we go, Mark, anyway, I'll 1323 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 1: set you up. Tom Brady and Robert Kowski versus Jalen 1324 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: Ramsey and the Jaguars defense. Yummy. I think we were 1325 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,440 Speaker 1: talking downstairs the other day or some in some room 1326 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: that this feels a lot to me like harkening back 1327 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: to the two thousand and three, two thousand and four Patriots. 1328 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: All right, all right, next game, Why don't you explain? 1329 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: I just think it is. I think you get like 1330 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers and Juan Bentley and Dietrich Wise Jr. And 1331 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: then you have an offense where you've got Cordarrel Patterson 1332 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: and Philip Dorset catching the ball from Tom Brady, who 1333 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: looks like he's in about two thousand four shape. Right now. 1334 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 1: You look completely young to me all over again. This 1335 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 1: is an interesting team. I think the Patriots again, anyone 1336 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,320 Speaker 1: that wanted to predict their demise, which I think I believe, 1337 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: I had a sandwich that they would not make the playoffs. Well, 1338 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose that, they're gonna make it, and they're 1339 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna be about thirteen and three one gradually greater that 1340 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 1: it's better. It's amazing he I think when when he 1341 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: goes into Canton, like his biggest attribute is going to 1342 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: be staying power. He's just always there. Every September, every January, 1343 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: every February. He's always there, and he's always better than 1344 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: he was the previous yew Well, yeah, I wasn't being 1345 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: flipped saying he's better than two thousand four. There's no 1346 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: question he's better than he was. He his best two 1347 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 1: year two year stretch in the NFL is the last 1348 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: two years. Like, I don't even think it's that debatable. 1349 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 1: And he had a great Week one that said, this 1350 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: is as tough of a matchup as possible. I'm not 1351 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: ready to just how will they summon the power they 1352 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: are playing the best defense in the league, and the 1353 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: best defense in the league showed up in Week one 1354 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: and looked exactly like you would expected. It confirmed that, hey, 1355 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: this is gonna be Miles Jack's kind of breakout year. 1356 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 1: And hey, they're about as deep on the defensive line 1357 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: as any team in the NFL. You have to admit 1358 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 1: so like a one in thirty chance they have to 1359 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: win on Sunday with the Pets. It's a coin flip game. 1360 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 1: According to the Desert I mean, I think it's a 1361 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Jacksonville wants it. I mean, this is this is the 1362 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: a f C. You're gonna They're gonna come back. They 1363 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 1: want to. They were up ten in the fourth quarter 1364 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: with the best defense in the league. One of these 1365 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: teams is much better than they were in January. That's 1366 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Exactly look better, are you? Tony Romo said 1367 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick is super excited for this defense. They 1368 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: are much better pass rushing, like this is a this 1369 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: is a better Here's the thing, though, are they gonna 1370 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: be I don't think they're gonna be as good right 1371 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: now as they are at the end of the year. Offensively, 1372 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say, Okay, they have a great 1373 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: they have the best quarterback in the best tight end, 1374 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 1: but it might be a pretty uneven offense September and 1375 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: so if the Jaguars shut them down pretty pretty well 1376 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: and it's thirteen to ten in the fourth quarter, I 1377 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: don't think that should be a shock to anyone. Was 1378 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Leonard for not playing this game game time decision. Enough 1379 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 1: with the game time decision, that guy and bull his 1380 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,719 Speaker 1: hamstring hold up and is that you know? Oh my god, 1381 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: both backfields are in trouble. Frustrating that must Grex Burkett 1382 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: is coming off of a concussion. He was at practice Thursday. 1383 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see some extremely limited Jeremy Hill 1384 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: the seas and in the Jaguars offense. Not that I 1385 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 1: expected them to look way different, you know, this season, 1386 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: but I think that was a pretty discouraging performance in 1387 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 1: New York. They didn't score a point in the second half, 1388 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,400 Speaker 1: that the offense only scored thirteen points overall. I think 1389 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,640 Speaker 1: t J. Elden looks pretty good, but it's not like 1390 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: you saw Blake Bortles come out in this game and 1391 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 1: you'll be like, Okay, this guy's maturing. It was a 1392 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 1: pretty poor Blake Bortles game against not a great deal. 1393 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 1: I got the Jags getting some revenge in this game. 1394 01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 1: You guys got the Pats are Patriots pretty convincingly. I 1395 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: don't pick against the Patriots in big games. I famously 1396 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: picked them again, not famous big game in the Championship, 1397 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:16,759 Speaker 1: the biggest game that's a big game, all right, Sunday 1398 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: night football. Oh yeahy you boys love this Sunday night. Man, 1399 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: they can have big games coming off that. Giants and 1400 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys are on Sunday Night Football ratings, Baby, that's why 1401 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: it happens on one. They moved the needle at loss 1402 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: to the Jacks in Week one. Uh, did not look 1403 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,679 Speaker 1: very good on offense, but it is the Jags great defense. 1404 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 1: They now um travel to Jaral World and the Cowboys 1405 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: have a whole mess of problems Chris Westling. But and 1406 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: surprisingly the offensive line is now a liability. Or that's 1407 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: how it looked in Week one. I never thought I 1408 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 1: would have said this a month ago or two weeks ago. 1409 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,640 Speaker 1: But it's a big problem when the Cowboys offense is 1410 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 1: worse than their defense. Yes, and it could be a 1411 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: season long issue. What's the problem. What's wrong with its 1412 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver? To start with? The offensive line got outplayed 1413 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: by the Panthers defensive line, and they're supposed to be 1414 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 1: the best offensive line around that that's a big they're 1415 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 1: not when they don't have Travis Fedwick. They didn't know 1416 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 1: what happens. They's time. Dak Prescott's played a good game 1417 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: about ten games ago. He hasn't been able to kind 1418 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: of rise above what's happening. And I think probably his 1419 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 1: best skill is those off scheduled plays down the field. 1420 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 1: He is one of the best deep ball throwers, kind 1421 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: of on the movies, like who's catching that pass? He's 1422 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 1: not even really trying those pass right now, But who 1423 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: would be catching that pass on this team, Michael Gallup 1424 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: if they don't have to, they don't have the person. 1425 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell at ESPN wrote a good piece, uh, kind 1426 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: of digging, digging into the Cowboys, who have the biggest 1427 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 1: competitive advantage in the sport right now because they have 1428 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 1: what they even even he hasn't played well maybe in 1429 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,839 Speaker 1: recent times, but uh, Dak Prescott is the biggest bargain 1430 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: because he was a fourth round pick and he basically 1431 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: makes no money. It's I think he's old, maybe two 1432 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: point seven million over the balance of his contract. Uh. 1433 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: And during the last two off seasons, the Cowboys have 1434 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: not really went after any big free agents. So and 1435 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: part of the reason why they haven't it's because they've 1436 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: made so many bad deals and and have so much 1437 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 1: dead cap money and they and they have not handled 1438 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: their business affairs correctly. Ramo being the two biggest right that, 1439 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: But and there are a whole host of other guys 1440 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 1: that you completely forget that they've just been killing themselves 1441 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: with now for years, and that's kind of put them 1442 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 1: in this situation. You wonder, why didn't they go out 1443 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 1: and get some more free agents while they're a little 1444 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 1: bit hamstrung. Uh, And you're seeing it all the what 1445 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: do they call it the the chickens come home to roost? 1446 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 1: Is that a term? I think that's what's happening here. 1447 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 1: They yeah, there they going are there typically penned in 1448 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: on a farm to coming home and and this is 1449 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 1: might be a last season because of they're bad business 1450 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: practices and their inability to surround a young quarterback that's 1451 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 1: very cheap with real talent. Yikes, it's one it's one week. 1452 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 1: It's one week. You have a big part of the 1453 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 1: show that was that was actually a little throwback podcast act. 1454 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 1: That's what I have. I have a small stable of 1455 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: impressions and uh, the far Ladies guy saying one of them, 1456 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: it's it's come out more. Save it for the other show. 1457 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, you have to you have to keep these alright. 1458 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: Check out the throwback podcast Randy Gregory suffered a concussion 1459 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:42,640 Speaker 1: in Week one, and I thought he was going to 1460 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 1: make a big difference. There's a report that he's gonna 1461 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 1: have another suspension eventually anyways, but he's not. It sounds 1462 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 1: like he is not going to play this game to 1463 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence is and his absence makes it even less 1464 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: likely that the defense ends up being a difference maker. 1465 01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith played the whole game last week. Wouldn't say 1466 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: he made it like a huge impact. They have some 1467 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 1: good pieces in the secondary. I don't know, like how 1468 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 1: how good is the Giant's offense going to be and 1469 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: how much of it was just the jack playing against 1470 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Jacksonville idea, he didn't get bad. I didn't think. I 1471 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 1: think Eli's had worse games, but at that we didn't 1472 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: look bad. But there's still in an alternate it wasn't. 1473 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I like looked at the box score and I was 1474 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: thinking it's gonna be a bad eye like game, and 1475 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't their number one problem. An alternate universal, the 1476 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Giants have Sam Donald and Adrian Peterson right now and 1477 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: they have a lot of hope. That would have been 1478 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,959 Speaker 1: an interesting I mean, you can't really tag them with Peterson. 1479 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 1: Everybody passed on. I'm just say Peterson would they would 1480 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: have needed a running back, they would have been a 1481 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 1: candidate to get it would be Sam Donald and Jonathan Stewart. Sure, 1482 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they could have had the quarterback and 1483 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 1: they passed. It's that I love Siguon Barkley, I get it. 1484 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: But if they took Todd Gurley over Eric Flowers, isn't 1485 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,560 Speaker 1: it a little bit early to say that Darnall was 1486 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,639 Speaker 1: a better pick than things? QU think it's very early, 1487 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 1: but still there this week that was like, how much 1488 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 1: are the Browns and the Giants regretting passing on I've 1489 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 1: ever seen, But with the Giants, I think there's something 1490 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 1: to it that if Sam Donald, if we're halfway through 1491 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 1: the season and he just looks like it's just that 1492 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 1: the Giants passed on the quarterback. The Browns did not 1493 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 1: know the Cardinals of the Bills. Uh, last game of 1494 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 1: the week, Monday Night Football, the Seattle Seahawks, who like 1495 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,719 Speaker 1: in that Cowboys game. I'm gonna throw that out to everyone, Alright, 1496 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 1: go ahead, I think the cow I think the Cowboys 1497 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 1: find a way. They're not going to be as bad 1498 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 1: as I think the Giants are a considerably better team. 1499 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I think the Gyman are gonna take care of his 1500 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: defense played pretty well the Giants. I think the Gyman 1501 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: will roll. I think the Cowboys are working through some 1502 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,639 Speaker 1: stuff right now. If they get Travis Frederick Beckett sometime, 1503 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 1: and that's a huge if. I have no idea that 1504 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: could help. But I think the Cowboys are lost right now. 1505 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,559 Speaker 1: At the Seahawks, UH played a very entertaining game, as 1506 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: you said, against the Broncos, fell short four. UH. They 1507 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 1: head to Chicago to face the Bears, and Greg, Uh, 1508 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 1: we should talk. We should touch on the Bears because 1509 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 1: we haven't had a chance to talk about what happened 1510 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 1: to them on Sunday night. The highs were so high 1511 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, and then the lows were absolutely crushing. 1512 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I know, you know, a loss in Week one probably 1513 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't dictate how the rest of your season unfolds. But 1514 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what the confidence level of that team is 1515 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 1: after what Aaron Rodgers did to them. I've seen a 1516 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: lot of that. This loss was somehow a good sign 1517 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: for the Bears. You know, the way that they played, 1518 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 1: the way that Khalil Mack came out, but I'm I'm 1519 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 1: more with you Dan that that was a massive missed 1520 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: opportunity and the number one question about this Bears team. 1521 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,360 Speaker 1: UH created more questions after this game. Was not a 1522 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 1: good performance by Mitchell Trobiski, especially after you got through 1523 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 1: those scripted plays early. He struggled in the second half, 1524 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 1: and I think that's a I think that's a concern. 1525 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: That was a major missed opportunity by them, like it should. 1526 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 1: You're not getting any extra credit that you played this 1527 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 1: rival team tough. You gotta finish. I had. I had 1528 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,720 Speaker 1: two takeaways from the end of that game. One, I 1529 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: can't there there was a reality where it should have 1530 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 1: played out this way for the Bears, that Aaron Rodgers 1531 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,439 Speaker 1: never gets back on the field. They have third and one, 1532 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: UH inside the twenty where they end up settling for 1533 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 1: a field goal. They throw the ball and they throw 1534 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: an in completely past you run the ball once and 1535 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 1: my Bears colleague downstairs Ali made a good point to you, 1536 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 1: maybe you get two cracks at it because kicked the 1537 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 1: field goal, you send Aaron Rodgers back on the field 1538 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,560 Speaker 1: down six. It was set in stone. It felt like 1539 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 1: almost what was gonna happen next. So that was my 1540 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,759 Speaker 1: one thought, and then my other thought was after Rogers 1541 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 1: does the Rodgers thing and thank you by the way, 1542 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Packers fans are sending a gift baskets Kyle Fuller because 1543 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: he should have ended the game as well with in 1544 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 1: a reception. But after they take the lead, the Packers 1545 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: the Bears come out of the field, and I just 1546 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: got the feeling that Mitch Drobinski, the way he looked, 1547 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,400 Speaker 1: he just wasn't ready for that moment, and I think 1548 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 1: he played that way. He looked a little tight, and 1549 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I obviously there's questions to be asked about 1550 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: Rabisky at this stage. I think we're still waiting for 1551 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 1: that game, even that half where Robinsky does enough to 1552 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,719 Speaker 1: convince us that yes, this is the guy in Chicago. 1553 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 1: The search for a quarterback is absolutely over. I mean 1554 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 1: it's over now for a while because they're gonna work 1555 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: with them as much as they can. But the light 1556 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 1: is not gone on the same way you've seen with 1557 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:27,160 Speaker 1: some other quarterbacks in the seventeen games. In that's fair. Uh. 1558 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: Bill Simmons used to call it stomach punch level loss, 1559 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: one of the worst loss level when you factor in 1560 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 1: the third and one, the comeback, the third and one, 1561 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: the Kyle Fuller drop, the Randall Cobb interception, and then 1562 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: that having one more chance, the Clay Matthews roughing the 1563 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,200 Speaker 1: pastor giving you a new life and still falling short. 1564 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: This is about as bad as a regular season lost 1565 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 1: could be in Week one, and factor in if you're 1566 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: a Bears fan that all you've done in the past 1567 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: decade is getting whipped by Aaron Rodgers and the Packers 1568 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: over and over. There was that it was the pmponent 1569 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 1: to this is a great matchup to bounce back from 1570 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,599 Speaker 1: bounce back. You're back home. You're facing a Seattle team 1571 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 1: that to me has all sorts of problems. Russell Wilson ran. 1572 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,639 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had a poor game for him. Missed some throws, 1573 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 1: made a bad interception, ran into some sacks. He he 1574 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: admitted three of the sacks were on him. And you're 1575 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: counting on Brandon Marshall to win on the outside. You 1576 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 1: know you're throwing late passes to Jeron Brown down the field. 1577 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Rashad Penny was basically dismissed almost by Pete Carroll during 1578 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 1: the press conference this week, essentially saying like this, kid 1579 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 1: wasn't ready. We need to rely on Chris Carson a 1580 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 1: little more. And Chris Carson looked good. It's just it's 1581 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 1: a lot going on and you're not exactly sure who 1582 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 1: on defense other than Earl Thomas and Frank Clark are 1583 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: really going to carry the dead. I feel like Seattle, 1584 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 1: like you, finally, after all these years done at Seattle, 1585 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 1: you've created an offense with no identity at all other 1586 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,760 Speaker 1: than Russell Wilson having to run around do figure eights 1587 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: get sacked twenty yards. But even with him in there, 1588 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 1: what is this offense right now? It's just it would 1589 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: help a lot. This will help a lot. That identity 1590 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 1: goes to the defense too. What's the defense? They've you 1591 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,600 Speaker 1: stripped away all these people and it's like it's a 1592 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: nice fresh start, but really, what you is you have 1593 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 1: nothing to really hang your hat on if you if 1594 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,799 Speaker 1: you're the Bears, you are attacking Trey Flowers and Sham 1595 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 1: Griffin or Shakille Griffin rather, who had a solid rookie year. 1596 01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: But they were overmatched last week against the Broncos. And 1597 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:28,600 Speaker 1: I know that's a good pair of receivers, but they 1598 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,800 Speaker 1: were just people were wide open against that cornerback group, 1599 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 1: and so you would think Matt Naggie can cook up 1600 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,680 Speaker 1: some place here for his his wide receivers who other 1601 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: than Allen Robinson didn't really do a lot last week. 1602 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm taking the team of a TL on this me 1603 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 1: toot ride with them here. Let's go boys, bounce back, 1604 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 1: all right, h next time you hear from us, it 1605 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,600 Speaker 1: will be Sunday night the Flagship UH Show where we 1606 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 1: recap all of these games that we just previewed. So 1607 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: make sure you check on with that and UM. Our 1608 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Twitter show premiers on Tuesday, and this is fun. We're 1609 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 1: gonna part of the show and it makes sense it's 1610 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter. There will be a social integration aspect to it, 1611 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: away from the viewers of the show to interact with us. 1612 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: So if you have any questions, comments, uh, if you 1613 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 1: want to send it in videos. Uh, if you want 1614 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,400 Speaker 1: to do anything within the bounds of the law, I mean, 1615 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 1: don't break the law, or at least don't get caught. 1616 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 1: Hit us American law. Yeah, hit us up on Twitter. Uh. 1617 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 1: Any of our handles around the NFL or each of ours, 1618 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 1: but make sure you use the hashtag around the NFL 1619 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 1: around the NFL. Use that hashtag. They even said, use 1620 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: a capital letter for the in NFL. And I don't 1621 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 1: really know. I think it'll still get through. It will 1622 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 1: still well listen in these figures. What other way to say, 1623 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 1: we know that the listeners of this show particularly are 1624 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,240 Speaker 1: different than NFL network viewers, different than any other thing. 1625 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 1: It's a smarter group. It flat out that's what they said. 1626 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,560 Speaker 1: It's a smart group, right, they said, we this is 1627 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 1: the group. We need to chime in and bring your goods, so, 1628 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, please do not sleep through the day. They 1629 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,680 Speaker 1: basically said, anyone who watches NFL network and responds a 1630 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 1: bunch of mouth breathers. But our podcast listeners are just yeah, 1631 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,439 Speaker 1: like just you know, just beautiful people. So yes, please 1632 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,800 Speaker 1: hit us up because and and watch the show because 1633 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: it's it's a big thing for us, and we promised 1634 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 1: to make it different and cool. Okay, let's go. This 1635 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,879 Speaker 1: is Dan Hansons signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman 1636 01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Judgmental Greg. Remember that, No that's not a nickname. When 1637 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: was this? Oh yeah, last show, Louis Phil Sunday do 1638 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: it's isn't it easy just to throw it on? Yeah? 1639 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 1: It was super easy. Everything you want is easy h.