WEBVTT - Mysonne | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, y'all, you already know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yours truly back with another exclusive episode of Rock Solid Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>YO, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>This one right here is special because I watched this

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<v Speaker 2>brother come up in the game along with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>He was definitely one of my pairs spitting.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the guys I listened to him, was like,

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<v Speaker 2>ain't no fucking way he got nice. I gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>in the crib and burn these niggas. How these niggas

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<v Speaker 2>off from the Bronx at Harlem? Get this nice? What

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<v Speaker 2>the hell are they eating up there? I watched this

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<v Speaker 2>man transition not only from one of the best spinners

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<v Speaker 2>of hip hop, but doing the major, major service for

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<v Speaker 2>the community that we need. And I definitely invited my

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<v Speaker 2>brother here. Let's welcome my song to the building. What's up,

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<v Speaker 2>my brother?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing man? Yo? First, before we start, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to just say I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Apologize to the whole activism community, everybody that's pushing the culture,

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<v Speaker 2>moving the community forward.

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<v Speaker 1>My words might have been tooken the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>I might have set them the wrong way because I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely didn't mean fuck activism, that's what we need. We

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have greats like Malcolm X and all other greats

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<v Speaker 2>we have, like Martin Luther King and everybody else you

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<v Speaker 2>have read about in the history books. My thing was

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<v Speaker 2>fuck selective jay Z activism.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my words.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the homie I was speaking to, I think his

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<v Speaker 2>name is MOUSEI or Mouse.

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<v Speaker 1>He had me hot Mice.

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<v Speaker 3>I see, I seen, and that's why you know. I

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<v Speaker 3>went on the post and I've seen it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people send you everything listen because you know they want

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<v Speaker 3>to cause the confident. When I've seen it, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I no, bleak, And I could tell that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>level of frustration.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I was. I was at the frust.

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<v Speaker 3>It's frustration, you know. And I know being part of Rockefeller.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even part of Rockefeller, and people act like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm part.

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<v Speaker 4>Of one feller.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know what I'm saying, I'm supposed to getting paper,

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<v Speaker 3>so I know the frustration, you know, And I'm listening

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<v Speaker 3>to you and I'm like, nah, bleak, don't mean that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a level of frustration.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's saying, fuck everybody is going that gym todded

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<v Speaker 3>niggas going.

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<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't my point. Like what it was. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like first of all, I haven't done interviews in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, since I got my own podcasts, I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been sitting down with anybody because I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>any point I wanted to get across, I say it here.

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<v Speaker 2>But being that I had music out, we just shut

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<v Speaker 2>down Yankee Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I went up there.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no clue they was gonna throw in the

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<v Speaker 2>target kap a Nick. So you know, my natural defense

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism always gonna kick in when it comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>my homies, I'm gonna defend first and think later.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I sat back and watched it, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>damn bleek. You could have said that a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have said it's a little different. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>definitely when you reached out, it's like Mice is the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect person to bring up here, so I could speak

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<v Speaker 2>my truth and let people know. You know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>out of anger, and that's not what I think. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all the way behind what you're doing. Like, yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been at the front line for every movement we had

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<v Speaker 2>out here. Man, anything that been going down in our community,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been on the front line. And me from a

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<v Speaker 2>fans perspective of watching you rap. I want to know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the transition, what inspired you to even like

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<v Speaker 2>be like, yo, I'm this is what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think for me, it was just actually

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<v Speaker 3>being involved in multiple facets, right, being in the streets,

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<v Speaker 3>being incarcerated, coming home, just understanding the seriousness of what

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<v Speaker 3>we're dealing with. I think first it started with being

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<v Speaker 3>incarcerated and knowing.

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<v Speaker 4>How many of.

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<v Speaker 3>Us in ourselves, especially young black and Latino men, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And it was like, you know what, I've been in

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<v Speaker 3>the streets, and I know how they have tricked us,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and we brought into the wrong thing. So

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to come home, change that narrative and tell

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<v Speaker 3>these kids the truth about what's going on. Right, these

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<v Speaker 3>they got a whole structure that is designed to keep

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<v Speaker 3>us inside of themselves and keep us, you know, away

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<v Speaker 3>from anything that's positive, you know. So that's why when

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about activism, and we have these conversations about activists,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of people don't really understand the whole

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<v Speaker 3>level of activism, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I was trying to tell.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, bleak is not coming from a perspective of

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying fuck activism, He's coming from a perspective of

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<v Speaker 3>people who are being attacked, especially when you're in alignment.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm attacked, like I see it, Like literally, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>On the front line doing work and people attacking me like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not for the community. You the boulet and you

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<v Speaker 3>with the illumine, all types of abortions. So I understand

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<v Speaker 3>the frustration, but I do this work because it comes

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<v Speaker 3>from my heart right, right. So when I'm when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>watching and I'm seeing how people utilize and they try

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<v Speaker 3>to tell us apart, they try to divide in confort, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what happens. And I'm watching all of these

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<v Speaker 3>things every day, and I'm seeing how they attack J

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<v Speaker 3>and they attack this, and they play the J and

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<v Speaker 3>Kaepernick and they played it Rockefeller and everybody's situation. And

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<v Speaker 3>we got to just be a little bit smarter, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because they know how to say, well, what about this

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<v Speaker 3>and what about this? And sometimes you just got to

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<v Speaker 3>take a breath and just say because we have each

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<v Speaker 3>other's though right, So when they talk about activism and

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<v Speaker 3>they talk about this and that, you should say, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have a conversation with my son about that, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because I have I got that man's direct content. That's

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<v Speaker 3>one of my brothers, and I think that's that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it is, because they definitely try to play this, They

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<v Speaker 3>try to play us against each other.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm my activism comes from what Jay has done. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>When Jay was talking about show you how to move

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<v Speaker 3>in a room full of vultures. When Jay was talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the end of the straight you need to be

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<v Speaker 3>taken over. When you talk about nigga, I ain't know

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<v Speaker 3>your token nigga. That that was what said. I know

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<v Speaker 3>hip hop has a place in activism because I listen

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<v Speaker 3>to j right, because I followed Ja and Nas and

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<v Speaker 3>Nose and brothers like that. So activism and hip hop

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<v Speaker 3>is hands in hand. It can't It's never gonna work

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<v Speaker 3>without each other. So that's why we gotta be. We

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<v Speaker 3>gotta understand. And that's why when people tell me about

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<v Speaker 3>your Jay did this, and I'm like, well, y'all don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know a lot of the ship that Jay has

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<v Speaker 3>done for the movement silently.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why I say it's selective range with these people, man,

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<v Speaker 2>because they just pick him because he's the biggest Target.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, But all of us, my giac.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to purchase an album right now, if

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<v Speaker 2>you not, if like physically purchase an album. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about buy it from Apple, streaming on Title or Spotify.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about physical copy of an album where you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go bro.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and and those are things that the average person

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't know right So because they don't know that, it's

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<v Speaker 3>people like us that explain that. Because I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation when they say you're talking because literally we

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<v Speaker 3>called the boycott to Mek. It was the first person,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Senator Nita Turner to Meek and Jamal Bryant.

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<v Speaker 4>They was the forefront of the boycott.

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<v Speaker 3>So when when that happened and they say Jay did

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<v Speaker 3>a deal with Target, I'm reaching out to people that's

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<v Speaker 3>in roy niggas because we family what's going on, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like.

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<v Speaker 4>This ain't no exclusive deal.

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<v Speaker 3>This this is the regular place that all of the records,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's music is there. We didn't have no exclusive deal

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<v Speaker 3>with Target. So those are messages that we That's why

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<v Speaker 3>y'all gotta use it. That's why I'm trying to say

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<v Speaker 3>they can't divide us.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what the game is. I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 3>They divided Malcolm X and doctor Martin Luther King, they divided.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine if HUEP, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, James all

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<v Speaker 3>of them were together, they couldn't they couldn't do nothing

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<v Speaker 3>with them. And that's we in a moment right now

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<v Speaker 3>where there's so much power. Well, when you when you

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Yankee Stadium and you see jay Z

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<v Speaker 3>got over forty thousand people in the building, right, this

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<v Speaker 3>is history.

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<v Speaker 4>That means that he got the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ears of the people right, and they know that we

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<v Speaker 3>have the streets, we have the people that really on

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<v Speaker 3>the front lines of the civil rights when they know

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<v Speaker 3>that when we make a decision and we decide that, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna get behind the.

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<v Speaker 4>People because we work for the people. We don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't call no boycotts because the people called the

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<v Speaker 3>target boy Cause let's be clear, the people decided that

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<v Speaker 3>target was the target. So when people ask, like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>why Target, why not Google?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>The people decided. People said what black people say, Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>we spend a bunch of money in fucking Target. We

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<v Speaker 3>damn near treat target like it's the club, especially black women.

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<v Speaker 4>They going in there for seven to eight hours.

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<v Speaker 3>So y'all telling us that y'all gonna take d away

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<v Speaker 3>from us after all the money and the time we

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<v Speaker 3>spend it. Fuck y'all, we gonna boycott, y'all because we

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<v Speaker 3>know that we're gonna directly impact it exactly. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>why over five billion dollars they lost in that. So

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<v Speaker 3>when niggas act, why, it's because we knew that we

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<v Speaker 3>can impact that. We can't boycott. It's no boycott in

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<v Speaker 3>his three has ever been successful. Boycott and everybody, So

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<v Speaker 3>there has to be a direct target. When you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about boycott's to Montgomery boycott, they boycott at one place.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a bunch of places that was racist against

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<v Speaker 3>black people. But now they say, yo, we're gonna direct

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<v Speaker 3>all this energy in one place. And he was able

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<v Speaker 3>to move the need and make the mother fucking the boycott.

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<v Speaker 3>The Montgomery bus company say look, you ain't getting on

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<v Speaker 3>the back of the bus. So everything is a strategy

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<v Speaker 3>and we understand that, and that's why we gotta. We

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<v Speaker 3>need to utilize y'all life. When we come to y'all

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<v Speaker 3>and be like, yo, listen, this was going on. We

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<v Speaker 3>need something to be amplified when we need you to

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<v Speaker 3>get up here and say some shit the same way

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<v Speaker 3>we got a piggyback. We can't let these people trick

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<v Speaker 3>us because that's what they've been doing for years. They divided, conquer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh he think this and this is his ideology on

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<v Speaker 3>y'all beefing with each other. Now we not beefing with

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<v Speaker 3>each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>We got one of the biggest hip hop artists in

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<v Speaker 3>the world who've been funding this movement, who've been behind

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<v Speaker 3>this movie, silently doing shit for this movement for years.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not gonna let y'all separate us, even if we

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<v Speaker 3>don't agree on everything, because we're humans exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>My best friend, my mommy, and my mother used to have.

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<v Speaker 3>But we we understand that we're trying to get black

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<v Speaker 3>to the place we're supposed to be right, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where we intersect that.

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<v Speaker 4>So we knuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that and you saying that. That's why I love

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<v Speaker 1>the movement.

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<v Speaker 2>You have boycott Black Murder because I believe we are

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<v Speaker 2>our biggest enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are bro like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no, it's like me like just so for hip hop,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep it hip hop not even gonna dive

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<v Speaker 2>deep into the streets with us, because that's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>nother wormhole. But just in hip hop, right, if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at all these platforms and everybody who has a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>streaming network, or whatever you want to call it, or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they call itself, all they do all day is

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<v Speaker 2>shoot at each other. You know, from one is on

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<v Speaker 2>this one, it's on that one. And if this one

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<v Speaker 2>drop an album is critique them. Yo, this young boy,

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<v Speaker 2>this nigga too old, this nigga young, he can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>No platform is bigg en up our culture. But they'll

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<v Speaker 2>say hip hop is dying.

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<v Speaker 4>But why why do you think that is? Tell me

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<v Speaker 4>what you think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>If I if I, I don't know what I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just natural instinct from what they believe the culture

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<v Speaker 2>generation before them was because our generation, like think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>the Jays, you know what I mean, Cash money, no

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<v Speaker 2>Limit never linked up the you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was a lot of separation thing. If I

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<v Speaker 2>think the only link up back then really was the

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<v Speaker 2>Hard Knocked Life Tour, you know what I'm saying. Other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, and and what was that the smoke the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Dreanham tore Smoke, but that was more of the

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<v Speaker 2>up and Smoke tour. That was more of the Death

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<v Speaker 2>Row Records tour or what they were. But back then

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<v Speaker 2>it was no what you would call it like. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't we didn't click up, we didn't link up, we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't collaborate a lot. So I think the youth now

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<v Speaker 2>and the streamers took that energy from music and put

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<v Speaker 2>it on these platforms where they just spread instead of

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<v Speaker 2>rapping out fuck with niggas or fuck these niggas. Is

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<v Speaker 2>being sad now and they divide the artists think they

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<v Speaker 2>divided fan bases.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro they did, but it's like, but you gotta think

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<v Speaker 3>about this, and I'm not saying I disagree with you,

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<v Speaker 3>but just even and then I'm gonna bring it back

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<v Speaker 3>to Jay because Jay said, truthfully, I want to round

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<v Speaker 3>like common sense.

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<v Speaker 4>That so five mils, I ain't rund like common sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reality is that we live in a culture

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<v Speaker 3>where an algorithm don't push the positivity when we're pushing

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<v Speaker 3>each other together. If we not, if you not shooting

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<v Speaker 3>at somebody else, it don't go viral. You do not

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<v Speaker 3>see a viral clip of somebody celebrating somebody else. So

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<v Speaker 3>somebody bigging somebody else. Who what what podcast do you

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<v Speaker 3>see that's positive, that's amplifying other people, that's bringing up

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<v Speaker 3>and amplifying people, that's going viral. They don't do the

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<v Speaker 3>clips that go viral ate. The even Norri's podcast, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Noorid be up there and he he The first thing

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<v Speaker 3>he do is I'm bringing you up there with your flowers?

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<v Speaker 3>Want to give your flowers? They don't show that part.

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<v Speaker 3>They show when he having a conversation and saying that

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<v Speaker 3>they had a conflict with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>That's this culture that they created.

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<v Speaker 3>They made it so that you cannot financially benefit off

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<v Speaker 3>of nothing in our culture unless there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is some conflict. I don't I don't think so tell

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<v Speaker 2>me rock solid. We don't bash no one here.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just trying to say, okay, do you think

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<v Speaker 3>that you get the same views as somebody ass And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to a third of the views.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but you if you was up here, if you

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<v Speaker 3>was up here controversial saying yo, these you'll be going

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<v Speaker 3>l because that's what they want to see. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not even an. I don't think it's our nature. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be for niggas. You think you want

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<v Speaker 3>to sit around and be for niggas. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to have no And that's why my podcast is steadily

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<v Speaker 3>just doing what it does, because we don't sit up

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<v Speaker 3>there and promote negativity and promote how Black's gonna move,

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<v Speaker 3>howos and us to be together all.

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<v Speaker 1>These things, and that's my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to give out game to the youngins, like

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<v Speaker 2>if any youngins or even people my age that feel

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<v Speaker 2>like because you're never too old to get it right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I made mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I try to be here and be transparent as

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<v Speaker 2>possible with people and let them know like nobody's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely wasn't, you know what I'm saying, And I

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<v Speaker 2>made mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the moves we made to correct them. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm into.

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<v Speaker 2>So I use this platform definitely to uplift not only

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<v Speaker 2>my hip hop partners in my pears, but just like

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<v Speaker 2>the community, because I want these niggas to understand like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to hate you to get money. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where they I think it's confusion where they think because

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<v Speaker 2>you making all the money right now for me to

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<v Speaker 2>get Brad, I gotta I gotta target you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not bro.

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<v Speaker 2>They burn money every year, they print and burn money

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<v Speaker 2>every year.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't see where the positive is beneficial.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I had this conversation because I see

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<v Speaker 2>it with you, but you know with D one.

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<v Speaker 3>But even but listening D one, even though D one

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<v Speaker 3>is controversial, is because he's going on somebody else. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it's positive, he's saying that this person right

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<v Speaker 3>here is saying negative.

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<v Speaker 4>So they promote the beef.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not really promoting that he's positive because when he

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<v Speaker 3>just said, Yo, we need to change what we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>in hip hop this and that if he don't say

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<v Speaker 3>a name that's attached to it, it ain't nothing he

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<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately he realizes that and that's what happens, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of a lot of people say it to theyself. Damn,

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<v Speaker 3>I been trying to do it the right way on

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<v Speaker 3>long time. So let me just pick up a be

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<v Speaker 3>I got. I got dudes who built their whole life

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube talking about me.

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<v Speaker 4>I never respond, never had a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>But just because they built a website or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>decided he was gonna talk about me. People tune in

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<v Speaker 3>every week and it's the strange and shit to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And but but that's what the culture has celebrated because

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<v Speaker 3>that's where the money is. Is the fact that you

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<v Speaker 3>got niggas like academics in them that nothing but talk

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<v Speaker 3>about people, and they literally have been rated the top

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<v Speaker 3>hip hop.

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<v Speaker 4>What in hip hop? Just think, just think about how

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<v Speaker 4>funny that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that's crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we was born in hip hop, like we was

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<v Speaker 3>bred nigga. I went from battles in the park our

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<v Speaker 3>battle DMX. I bet anybody you know you know we were.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to go through, we had to go through

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<v Speaker 3>the trenches. I know everything about hip hop from the eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>That man don't know nothing about hip hop. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But he could get on a platform and just talk

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<v Speaker 3>and create beef for niggas and they say that he

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<v Speaker 3>dictates what hip hop is. So that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>If we you we ran a fuck that place, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>If that's what dictates hip hop, were the.

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<v Speaker 4>Place, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the clips of act I really don't pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention some of them are entertaining some of them, I

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<v Speaker 2>du listen to. I'm not gonna lie. But when he

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<v Speaker 2>when he talking that hood gang ship, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get in that because that's not his life. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like when niggas promote something they don't know

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<v Speaker 2>nothing about.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the only clips you see is when he's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about somebody else. It's never a clip you see

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<v Speaker 3>where he's just giving you.

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<v Speaker 1>I like his clips where he's breaking down the music.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's breaking down the music and he always be like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not that good and that person is this good,

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<v Speaker 3>and he can't complete with that because he always needs

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<v Speaker 3>some conflict for the clips to go viral.

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<v Speaker 4>But and they figured that out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not defending act don't don't don't. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody will take that the wrong way because I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a sit down with him the way he

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<v Speaker 2>shoot at my team too. I want to have that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even want to sit there listen.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is my thing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the people like academics Whack one hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people might not understand them and get

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<v Speaker 2>their message to Charleston Whites. To me, they needed bro

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<v Speaker 2>they're needed. They are the new generation. Wendy Williams, starn

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<v Speaker 2>Buck Wild, Miss Jones. They it's the same thing they

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<v Speaker 2>were just on the airwaves.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't I don't think it's the same because

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<v Speaker 3>even when you're talking about we weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Gang members back then, bro, but they was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>all the negativity that.

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<v Speaker 4>But the segitivity too though there was there was a balance.

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<v Speaker 1>I give you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. There's no better. I asked.

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<v Speaker 4>I had this conversation with Flip.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Flip, tell me one thing positive that act

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<v Speaker 3>has done for him, but this one. Tell me one

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<v Speaker 3>interview anything, one positive thing, show me one positive clip.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't follow the kids, but that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Did this I watched, I said, I'm a clip watch.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just asking you.

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<v Speaker 3>When you watch it, you'll see him break down an

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<v Speaker 3>hour because but I'm talking about something positive. You if

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<v Speaker 3>you a millionaire and you ain't even never threw a

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<v Speaker 3>barbecue in the hood and get you.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell niggas you got twenty minis, I made this money.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't give kids no pencils in the hood.

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<v Speaker 1>But he from a hood.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what he's saying for the saying from Jersey

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<v Speaker 3>you have not even from the hood.

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<v Speaker 4>You ain't say yo.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, We're gonna do something positive, were gon.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna promote somebody. We're gonna do something on the

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<v Speaker 3>strength like I want to see. I think for me right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at a stage in my life where I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>so many different things and I understand what the average

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<v Speaker 3>person is dealing with in our communities, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>how they grab one to bullshit if that's all you.

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<v Speaker 4>Give them, because is trash.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the new Niggas are streaming all day

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<v Speaker 3>like a B and the getting I'm happy to see

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<v Speaker 3>a B changing his life, but I'm watching a B

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm rooting for a B to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a B.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen that nigga better loan me his trainer for

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<v Speaker 2>two months.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta funck that nigga lost that stomach in one.

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<v Speaker 4>With a gott.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't got nobody, but that's what I want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so angry that all we promote is degeneracy in

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<v Speaker 3>our culture, bro like, because we were.

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<v Speaker 4>Way better than that fact. And I hated that fact.

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<v Speaker 3>That we had to watch a B drunk every day

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<v Speaker 3>looking crazy because that's not that man was a champion.

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<v Speaker 1>But people watching them clean up, and I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I want that's.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that they wanted to get right and get

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<v Speaker 2>back because I'm watching I didn't watch the drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the boxer like that man was seriously a

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<v Speaker 3>great boxer. That's a fact they wanted. And I'm glad

0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.200
<v Speaker 3>he's switching the table. But that's what I want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I want to see us promoting the positivity.

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<v Speaker 1>Chubby up here, like you know, like DJ Diesel and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Nigga, you ain't document none of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Should have he should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the ship we got to put in the

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<v Speaker 2>communite that we better take a care of my whalthy.

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<v Speaker 4>But who's going to promote it?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we don't even have We don't even got our

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<v Speaker 3>own platforms or nothing to wear black beneficial power and

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<v Speaker 3>that excellent thing is promoted.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that anything? Think we tried when Jay tried to

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<v Speaker 1>launch title everybody bashed them but killed them for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, that's part of the game that he knows heavy

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.360
<v Speaker 3>as they had that.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the thing is.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing something different, you're going to get st you're going

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 3>to get destructured the white people own everything.

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 4>That's how you think that.

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.960
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna take all of your black star power bring

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<v Speaker 3>all them. Nah, hell no, We're gonna do everything we

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<v Speaker 3>possibly can to deter that.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing right there, us as a community, right,

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<v Speaker 2>if we know that, then why we won't all rallied

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<v Speaker 2>behind each other and push that narrative so we could change.

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.479
<v Speaker 3>It because a lot of us are just followers of

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.919
<v Speaker 3>the structure, right, and and what happens is they're not

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.639
<v Speaker 3>enough of us that's willing to just keep on going

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 3>because I say, that's a lot of people periods. That's

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying when we talk about I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>this and I'm gonna keep it up. I don't know

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.920
<v Speaker 3>no black leader that we had that at some point

0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.200
<v Speaker 3>they didn't say it was the sellout, not one.

0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a fact.

0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:02.240
<v Speaker 3>And so I said, Jackson and every person that fought

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<v Speaker 3>for us with a seller. And then you know what,

0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 3>I started paying attention to So God bless his dad,

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 3>one of my mentors, how Belafonte, right, And I don't

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:11.679
<v Speaker 3>see people too many people ever say he sold up,

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:15.359
<v Speaker 3>but I watched him transition for the last ten years

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 3>of his life. And then they put out a documentary

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 3>of him and they showed about four decades of him

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 3>right like and I watched him this age and he

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:30.360
<v Speaker 3>had this energy like he was grabbing the young activists like, yo,

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.400
<v Speaker 3>we gotta find a gender, We gotta be out there

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.159
<v Speaker 3>fighting y'all out there protests, and this is how you

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.240
<v Speaker 3>gotta do it. He was teaching them, and then every

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 3>generation he lost a little bit of energy because it

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 3>was like, this is the same shit over and over.

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.200
<v Speaker 3>We are we on a treadmill, like these niggs ain't

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 3>gonna really let us get nowhere, and that's what starts happening.

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.480
<v Speaker 3>You got people that be fighting, and then you were like,

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 3>what the fuck am I fighting for? Because the same

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 3>people I'm fighting for is trying to kill me. And

0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:57.880
<v Speaker 3>then you say, fuck that. You know what, I'm gonna

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 3>go over here, make sure me and my family is good.

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:01.919
<v Speaker 3>And then once you do that, they gonna say you

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.880
<v Speaker 3>so no, my nigga. Even when he took about all shots,

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I ain't gonna mean to cut you. You may got

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.719
<v Speaker 3>locked up over fifty times. He did a bunch of

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 3>times in jail, got shots that all types of shit.

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.199
<v Speaker 3>Nobody talks about that. They just called him minute. You

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 3>don't realize all the shit he sacrificed. The average nigga

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 3>never sacrificed.

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Like Muhammad Ali. That's what I respect. Nobody understands that

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and I sacrifice.

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 3>You sit there and call a nigga sell out that

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 3>you didn't do one percent of what he did.

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 4>That how are people?

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:30.959
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you what that being said, how

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you feel about the Kapernick slammer that they give Jay.

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 2>We're dealing with the NFL, because to me, let me

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 2>just tell you me my point of view and my

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>my perspectives. God, like I spoke like, not like I

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 2>spoke to Jay. I didn't hear this from Jay. We

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 2>don't talk about this. These are not his words. So

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:54.360
<v Speaker 2>don't think that this is my opinion. If you your

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 2>choice is I'm gonna make this movement, and that choice

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 2>cast you your job right, and then an artist that

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 2>you don't know, didn't grow up with, don't own you,

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 2>no allegiance nothing, come and take a deal with the NFL.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>How've went down? I don't know. I'm not in the meetings.

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.959
<v Speaker 2>But to change the halftime the narrative of black culture,

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever they was, they was pushing their agenda.

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what, it was probably more than me.

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But my thing is, if your teammates didn't follow you,

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 2>why should Jay have to follow you?

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Why is he wrong?

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.400
<v Speaker 2>They continue to play and still play to this day,

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>but because Jay do a halftime show, he's wrong.

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Let me let me let me give you my perspective

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:48.120
<v Speaker 3>from the inside, okay, right, so that your your your

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 3>perspective is a perspective. Don't know if I would exactly

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 3>agree with that to the fullest extant, but I'm giving

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 3>you from the inside.

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:59.199
<v Speaker 3>So when the whole cabinick thing first started, my organization

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 3>WILL was one of the first organizations to protest with Kaepernick.

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Like we went to the NFL, had a big protest

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 3>outside the NFL downtown. We was at the headquarters, like

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 3>we spearheaded all of that. We was on the emails

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 3>with Kaepernick like I was front line.

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 4>I had I'm with capped T shirts.

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:26.719
<v Speaker 3>I remember all that the NFL, Like I was to

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 3>the point where there was a time like when they

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 3>was doing the Super Bowl and the Battle Rappers.

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 4>This is my niggas.

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 3>They did a commercial for the NFL like they always

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Battle Rapping and the audishit and these is my niggas

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 3>and I went online, It's like, your niggas really selling

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 3>us out. We boycott the NFL, and yet they y'all

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>really they really paid y'all to do this. And Kay Shin,

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 3>who was my man, me and him almost got into

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 3>a situation in the club. We in the strip club

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 3>and he walked up to me like, yo, you're attacking

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 3>it and we faced and face. I'm like, my nigga,

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 3>this is what we're doing, Like nah, but we don't

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 3>know nothing about that. I'm a nigga from the hood,

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 3>just trying. And I said, I have to respect that

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 3>and I love you. And we had both of our

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 3>teams together. We had to say now that sh it

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 3>ain't like that. This is my brother. But it caused tension.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 3>So I was really in this shit for real, right,

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 3>So we going back and forth and we're trying to

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 3>boycott this and that. I see Jay come in. He

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 3>got the cabinick jersey. He front and center with it.

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 3>One day, Kaepernick stopped answering nigga's phone calls were on

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 3>the line, like we didn't we planned the next action.

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:39.479
<v Speaker 4>We're on the email.

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 3>They like your caperin Nigga's not answering nobody's emails no more.

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 4>He done left the group chats, damn, and niggas just.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Like, what do you mean, Yeah, I don't know about it.

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 3>I said this, what I'm saying this this, I'm telling

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 3>you this for a fact. I know this for a fact.

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, what you mean he left it? Like

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 3>we don't know And this happened for weeks. Like you

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 3>can ask top activists. A lot of them don't say nothing,

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.479
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of them know this shit happened, damn.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, what you mean he left the group chat.

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 3>He's like nah, They like he just went solid on us.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 3>And then next thing you know, we've seen Kaepernick has

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 3>a settlement. He got a settlement. They say he signed

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.199
<v Speaker 3>to NDA, and I'm like, he didn't tell us.

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>He didn't.

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 3>So you saying that we did all of this shit,

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 3>that nigga sacrifice and beefing with other niggas and were

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 3>doing all the shit, and a nigga we sacrificed for

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>just disappeared from the movement and didn't even notify us

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 3>to say you, look, I'm gonna take this because you

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 3>got the right to take the.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 4>See right, nigga, this is your job.

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Like everybody said, Yo, he took a settlement for it

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 3>and I and he should have took a settlement because

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 3>they owed him his money, but he owed us, the

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 3>people that sacrifice with him, the right and just the

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>heads up to say this is what we're doing. This

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>shit is because we can't for a movement for you

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 3>without you.

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I can't fight I can't for you for you.

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 3>If you can't say no, you're not saying you can't

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 3>even if you don't want to say noing whatever it is,

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 3>we can't fight you the face of this ship. We

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 3>because we need to be able to be at the

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 3>press conference what you was saying. We got Kavnick here

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 3>and we're standing with him in the NFL need to

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 3>do him right.

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 4>So now we don't.

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 3>Even got the evidence that you got that they said

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 3>that they colluded and did this ship. You can't even

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 3>present that to the public normal. You can't even expose

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 3>the NFL for the ship they did wrong. So how

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 3>can we help you? And you left us in the

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 3>fucking trenches with nothing. So now I'm saying, Tom, I'm

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.719
<v Speaker 3>i suld of God, I'm on to I'm like, y'all serious,

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>like this happened at Charlotte Charlamage to tell you it's

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 3>niggas will tell you that this literally happened. And I

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 3>was so confused. So when Jaye did it, I'm like, well,

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>niggas gotta figure out how do we salvage some of

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>the ship to where we just ain't left in the

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 3>trenches with nothing. Because if you put your face and

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 3>your your your capital, your your your celebrity capital on

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>the line to stay with a nigga and he just

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 3>damn and then there how am I mad at him

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 3>for saying, okay, fuck that we're gonna get something out

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 3>of this. That's right, right, We're gonna Black people are

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna get something out of this because we didn't do

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 3>all of this, come this all this way for him

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 3>to just take a settlement and we didn't get nothing

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 3>like that because I didn't think that's what it was about.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 3>And even if it was, that was about, tell us

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>that's what it's about so we could fall back and

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 3>that's and that's for me. And it's like, and I

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 3>knew this for years and I keep get a niggas

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>say this, I'm like, yo, niggas dire Nick Kaepernick left

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>us in the trenches. Bro, this was all He was

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 3>the general of the army and left the fucking on

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>me in the trenches and idea nigga to tell me

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm lying.

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 4>This is on my kids. I did, nigga tell me

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm mind, and that shit hurt me because I'm a

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 4>and I still love what he does to this day. Bro,

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 4>I love he got there.

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I know your rights, and I'm not saying anything against

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>what he sacrificed, even he just paid for the young

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 3>boys autopsy, all these things. I love what he does,

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 3>but I just don't like this narrative that niggas did

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>dirty by him when he literally left, and and if

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 3>that's what you wanted to do, I'm just saying I

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 3>would have never did That's right. I just would have

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 3>never left niggas that followed me and was willing to

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 3>sacrifice for me because you sacrificed.

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 3>So if I sacrifice, if I see you sacrifice it,

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and I decided that I'm gonna sacrifice with you, I'm

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna least say you look, yo, we're gonna take this settlement.

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna be to say nothing.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Give me a hand he met To this day, there's

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 3>never been a conversation, and he acts like he mad

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 3>with everybody else. And I'm so confused with that sh

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 3>bro No for real, to be honest, that shit bothers

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 3>me to this day. And I got love for the

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 3>man because the way he sacrificed. When I was watching

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 3>that man kneel at them games and I knew he

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 3>was taking all that ship, I was like, Yo, I'm.

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Riding with him. What I gotta do. I don't care.

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I love NFL, but I'm not watching that ship. I'm

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 3>not buying that. I'm not fucking with niggas like that's.

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>How I ride. I ride with you. I'm wrong with you.

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 4>So for you to leave us like that, that ship

0:30:58.480 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 4>just didn't make sense to me.

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 3>And I'm it's tired of the narrative that keep getting

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 3>spread that niggas did this to that didn't happen.

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>It just gad you explain that because they was trying

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to crucify me like I did the Morning show where

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>merrow in them on Hot ninety seven.

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 4>I forgot the female name. You remember my name, Chico.

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>God blessed me, beautiful, But you're still beautiful, but she

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>tried to crucify me with the cap shit like no, no, no,

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. That's I know NASA shoutow nests. I knew

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>nests before she became his wife. I had, you know

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, matter before. But I'm glad you brought it,

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>brought some light to some insight to it, rather not

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>even like because they've been crucifying Jay, like as if

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>he went to the NFL and told them, yo, move home,

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 2>me out the way I got this and the didn't happen.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Like what I would say is that I think he

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 3>could have phrased it. We done kneeling shit better, like

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 3>I said, And I had that with this. I said, look,

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Bro done it like he didn't have to say that.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>He could have just said, look, we listen, Kaepernick is here.

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 3>He done what he did on We're just trying to

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 3>move and do something else. You know, we're trying to

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>provide a different situation. But the dune nil and it

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>just came across as a way. And that's just like,

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 3>and I can say I disagree with Bro.

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I could disagree with many things Jay said.

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just like when I just slipped up and said

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.959
<v Speaker 2>man fuck act of it, Like, I'm pretty sure what

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 2>he meant wasn't how it was.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. That mean And we got to

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 3>give our people enough grace. Of the problem is that

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 3>we don't give our people. No, we don't. We don't

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>look at the resume in totality and we just look

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>at It's just like if a nigga got five championships

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 3>and we lose that one game, I just want I

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 3>got five chips, You forgot them chips over Yep. That's

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 3>how it is. You just as good as your last.

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>But that's just our culture, bro.

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I believe that's just in our community, because we the

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 2>only culture that you're guilty even after your proven innocent.

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Even other another reason why, because we don't control the narrative.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 3>We don't control our own narrative. They get to control

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 3>what gets pushed to the people. They control the media,

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 3>like we got a president that does the This nigga

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>is the biggest scammer in the world.

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 4>And they'll tell you what I've never seen no ship

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 4>like yo.

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 2>But listening in front of you like list But I'm

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>being honest, I know it's gonna be I'm not I'm

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 2>not Republican, I'm not Democrat, but now you gotta respect it.

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Man here in New York, nigga, he's that bag right.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 2>If you put a hustler for one of my marks

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 2>niggas in that office, they could do the same.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 3>But they couldn't do the same thing because if a

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 3>black Spanish nigga try to do that ship, you've been

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>in jail the first day, like you've been in jail

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 3>the first day. So that's what I just would. I

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't respect that. We could do that if you gave

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 3>if you said, yo, look this ship is easy. Everybody

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 3>could do it.

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Give us the.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Same playing field, then I'm cool with it. But try

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 3>y'all can't keep controlling the playing field. Y'all get to

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 3>control who gets this. Y'all can get control what message

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 3>gets put out. Y'all get nah my, nigga. That's that's

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 3>what white supremacy does. And we we and a lot

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 3>of us don't even understand why it's planning. We ain't

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 3>no fucking white people.

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Get your people that say it's no racism, it doesn't

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>like it don't exist.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Like it don't exist. You fucking kidding me.

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I deal with it every day, every day, every day, every.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 4>Day, and it's like, you know what I'm saying.

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 3>So that's what it is, and it's like and that's

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 3>why I understand where we are and understand that we

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 3>don't have the time to be beef on.

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm not unless you somebody effect that.

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 3>I can say that you've never done nothing positive and

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you add.

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not beefing with another black No, if.

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>It don't affect my family, on my money.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 3>If it's not affecting the bottom line of the coach,

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 3>if you're not doing some shit that that's directly is

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 3>going to impact us in.

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 4>A negative way.

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 3>You might say something different than our say just like

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 3>when you said what you said, I said, let me

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 3>hear bleak exactly. But that's what man, I ain't going online.

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 3>I say, Yo, what bleak trying to say? Nigga, that's

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna get that from me.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Because that's when you know me and we need thirty years.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. That's not what I'm meant.

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 4>That's not how I feel.

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I love my pig. I want to see us when

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>they can't wait.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 4>You know how many people just kept sending me that ship?

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 4>So what I'm sorted to go up there and bash

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 4>bleak there.

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, because they were so

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 3>quick to do that, that's right that we don't do that.

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I just we need to be quick.

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Even when Jay did that.

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 3>So I'm in the I'm inside the state there when

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 3>he's talking about the target ship, right, so knowing that

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 3>we did the target boy yeah, and he like, it's

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, is it this or that? Niggas can't wait

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 3>for so niggas hear me, like, so, what you want

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 3>to say here talking about to talk to the boycott?

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 4>How you feel about that?

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I said, well, I don't agree with what he said,

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 3>but I still love Jay and I can disagree with you.

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 4>And I actually wrote a letter to Jay.

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to agree whatever, you don't have.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 4>To And that's that's what I'm trying to say.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Nobody.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't have a niggas like Yo, you can't talk nigga.

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 3>Don't have a relationship with a nigga that I can't

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>disagree with, a fat grown, a dope mask a fact.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I've never had to bite my tongue to nobody. There's

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 3>nobody that's above reproach and above critique to me and

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 3>then if I love you, I'm gonna tell me that

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 3>because I want you to be better, hurts you. And

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 3>even if you disagree with me and we can have

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 3>a disagreement and I can still love you.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Hashtag non dependence.

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 4>That's youall situation. I watch that. Y'all can fix that too,

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 4>because I don't even know where that should come from.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know what it is.

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 4>That's another thing.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.439
<v Speaker 3>Right when I watch the fifty in jay ship, because

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>it's fifty j ship, right, I'm gonna say it that way,

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 3>it's because they've taught I will culture that can only.

0:36:58.960 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Be one person.

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>So I remember they our coach is that that is

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.479
<v Speaker 2>the living example of breaking Bobby. But if you ain't

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 2>number one, if you ain't number Wayne said, if you

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 2>if you ain't number one, you number two.

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Or it's crazy because these are two fucking icons that

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 3>did they ship and both did it their own way.

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 3>They're both moving, both successful. Imagine both of them at

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Yankee Stadium.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 4>Imagine happen.

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I can just imagine, Yeah, imagine them niggas doing something

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>new like But that's but that's that's what it is.

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 3>They told our culture that only one person can be

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 3>at the top and I gotta shoot at you, and

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I got to shoot at you, and we can't be

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 3>friends because the people need to see that conflict in

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 3>a minute that they think that we men died the thing,

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 3>then there's.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>No more use to this is the thing though.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I never I watched the gun their movement from the

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>beginning to where they are now, and they come on

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 2>they doing the television thing got the lyric that got

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>the spirits, just like us doing anything. Bro, I never

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 2>watched the man pocket a day in my life. I

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 2>never cared how you paid your bills or why. As

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 2>long as you did, it's all that matters to me.

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 2>So for a person to sit there and wonder how

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 2>I pay my bills on the strength of whoever, Bro,

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I gotta speak on that, because I'm not.

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Saying you you're supposed to speak on you defend yourself

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.240
<v Speaker 3>and not deal with you. Don't tolerate disrespect. I'm just saying,

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>why is it the disrespect? But I want to get

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 3>to the route right, because it ain't really don't so crazy.

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Ain't nobody shooting nobody, A nobody kill nobody. But you

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 3>know what's so crazy? It's some unit, some shit that

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 3>was created to keep people separated, especially keep our people.

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Saying, like I told you, I have a I sit

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 2>down on this couch. I sat down on this couch

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>with many people that we disagreed with. When the Warway

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 2>had problems, I spoke to Gym Cam. I got mad

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>people up here.

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I invited Uncle Murder here before all this shit happened.

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Remember me and Uncle Murda got a relationship. Invited him

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and he denied. Did Tony ye yo know he could

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>come up here and have a man in man conversation

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>with me anytime he won. I'm never gonna dede that,

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and we could settle whatever did. But it's not no beef.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 4>It's not.

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's not even I think it's like I said,

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>it's a conflict that comes from just status and feeling

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 3>like it can only be one number one, Like I don't.

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>I never felt like that. And I'm so mad that

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I was. Culture pushes that ship.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>It's whack, it's whack. I'm mad.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 3>That's my best moment was watching Jay and I's come

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 3>on that stage, even though the day three was crazy,

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 3>just watching all of the fucking but that moment, right there,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 3>my nigga. I literally had a tea in my eye.

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 3>I was sitting next to Joe Hip Hop.

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 4>Joe was in.

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Joe's fucking Sweet and I looked at Joe fat me

0:39:58.480 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 3>looked at each other.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 4>And we you know, and I was like, Yo, my nigga,

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 4>this is jay.

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Z ands on stage. And that's what this ship is.

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Niggas crazy from the trenches ad living for each other.

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 3>It could be to the wrapping on each other, beast nigga,

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 3>and they know they they niggas know that in their

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 3>own perspectives they are great.

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 4>And they don't feel no.

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 3>They come to the point in understanding like, nigga, I

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 3>can be great along with you being great.

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 2>That's a facus. So now, like I said out here,

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 2>it's enough room, enough money.

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 4>Is doing entrepreneurship. Casinos.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>They even trying to battle them with the casinos because.

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 3>That's what they want. They can't wait to pick us

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 3>against you.

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy.

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 2>No matter what you do, they bat they gonna Yo.

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So what's next for you, my g what's the next

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 2>move for my guy?

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I'm doing a lot of activism. Shout

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 3>out to the mayor of New York. You know, I

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 3>was working the whole transition team as the world I

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 3>forgot you was with the may running around, yeah, working

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 3>on the criminal justice perform and also community safety. So

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 3>I really just want to What I want to do

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 3>is create centers, like not even schools, but centers for

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 3>young average young boys, because a lot of our kids

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 3>don't want to go to school.

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>That's what they want.

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 3>They want careers, right, So I want to have them

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 3>centers to where you got career training, you know, teaching

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 3>them how to do anything they want. You got sports

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 3>in there, you got mentors in there to where it's

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 3>at home, that's facing where they could come and they

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 3>feel comfortable. Because I realized some shit with my ten

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 3>year old was taking when he was I think he

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 3>was eight or nine, I was taking them to school

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and he's just started crying, right and I'm like, what

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 3>the fuck are you crying for? And he's like, cause

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to go to school. I said, why

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to go? He said, because I don't

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 3>really learn in school. I said, they want he said,

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 3>they want me to sit down.

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<v Speaker 4>I learned off the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I learned off just being outside the energy, just seeing

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<v Speaker 3>different things, and they just want me to sit and

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<v Speaker 3>it's cheat and be quiet all day. And that's not

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<v Speaker 3>how I feel comfortable. And that's how multiple I never

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<v Speaker 3>felt comfortable like learning like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's crazy to say that I went to a

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<v Speaker 2>center as a kid like that. When I used to

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<v Speaker 2>go visit my grandmoms in Brownsville called the BRC. They know,

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy. As a shorty. They had the sports, the basketball,

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 2>they had the baseball shit, they had the business classes

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 1>They had everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you talking about it's like word, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember seeing shit like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure like, and you you got the right people in there.

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<v Speaker 3>You got mentors, you got men like us to understand

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<v Speaker 3>what they're going to. You know they they ain't got

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<v Speaker 3>some stiff white man trying to tell him to shut

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<v Speaker 3>up because he don't even identify for who the fuck

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<v Speaker 3>they are. Because I remember I was in third grade.

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<v Speaker 3>My third grade teacher told me I'd be dead before

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<v Speaker 3>I was eighteen. Looked me dead in my face.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll be dead.

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Before you was eighteen, damn. And Chris white Man, look,

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>he was so serious about that shit. Bro, that's crazy

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. So if we don't got us teaching

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<v Speaker 3>us and we don't got us, you know, mentoring us

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<v Speaker 3>and putting us in the right direction, then we we

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 3>doomed to fail. So I want to create that, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I know, it's a lot of at risk and its

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 3>energy right, especially these young gang members, they just got misdirected,

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 3>these as leaders with misdirected energy. To John O'Brien, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>a drug dealer is just a misdirected business person. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he understands im poor export, he understands how to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you show him all you put him in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Right that's Jay shows you that even fifty showed you

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 3>that you took them niggas out of the element, and

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 3>you give him that same skills, saying you put him

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<v Speaker 3>into corporate.

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<v Speaker 4>Offices, they gonna win.

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to be able to captivate that these

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<v Speaker 3>young kids early because I have had seminars with principles.

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<v Speaker 4>It's asking me, why can't we keep these young.

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<v Speaker 3>Blacks because we young black boys have the lowest graduation,

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<v Speaker 3>Like why we can't keep them? Because you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>anything that is So I want to create that for them.

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<v Speaker 3>I want because I know what we could do when

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 3>you give us. We shouldn't have to.

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Go to jail and then figure it out and come home.

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 3>Nah, because if you give us the opportunities and you

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 3>steer us in the right direction and we see.

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 4>How we can, we're gonna win.

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 3>If the playing field is even, we're gonna win every time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a fact, you know. So that's what I really

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 3>want to focus on. I'm putting on working on some

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 3>more music. So you be still got the bars listen

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<v Speaker 3>in shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, we gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>Get the studio, man, We owe that.

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<v Speaker 2>We owe that for one time, right, come on, one time,

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 2>my time, one man.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yo, I appreciate you.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Love man, you know that always loves anytime you got

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 2>anything to dress, say my doors, open my platform.

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 4>We gotta put you up on our platform. Let's me

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 4>do my gym. Some questions for Yeah, she gonna drill.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go. I gotta go, sar.

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I gotta train like Rocky in the snow like he

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>fighting Drago because to me because serious.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, man, you gotta come up.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's get it.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother, love you you, my brother. Keep doing your thing. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>boy back murder all of you. Shout out my song.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it is We got it for life

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<v Speaker 2>and I love activism.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ever get it twisted.

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 4>He loved activisms. Don't send me that video.

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