Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, you already know what it is.
Speaker 2: Yours truly back with another exclusive episode of Rock Solid Podcasts.
Speaker 1: YO, listen.
Speaker 2: This one right here is special because I watched this
Speaker 2: brother come up in the game along with myself.
Speaker 1: He was definitely one of my pairs spitting.
Speaker 2: One of the guys I listened to him, was like,
Speaker 2: ain't no fucking way he got nice. I gotta go
Speaker 2: in the crib and burn these niggas. How these niggas
Speaker 2: off from the Bronx at Harlem? Get this nice? What
Speaker 2: the hell are they eating up there? I watched this
Speaker 2: man transition not only from one of the best spinners
Speaker 2: of hip hop, but doing the major, major service for
Speaker 2: the community that we need. And I definitely invited my
Speaker 2: brother here. Let's welcome my song to the building. What's up,
Speaker 2: my brother?
Speaker 1: How you doing man? Yo? First, before we start, I
Speaker 1: want to just say I want to.
Speaker 2: Apologize to the whole activism community, everybody that's pushing the culture,
Speaker 2: moving the community forward.
Speaker 1: My words might have been tooken the wrong way.
Speaker 2: I might have set them the wrong way because I
Speaker 2: definitely didn't mean fuck activism, that's what we need. We
Speaker 2: wouldn't have greats like Malcolm X and all other greats
Speaker 2: we have, like Martin Luther King and everybody else you
Speaker 2: have read about in the history books. My thing was
Speaker 2: fuck selective jay Z activism.
Speaker 1: That was my words.
Speaker 2: Because the homie I was speaking to, I think his
Speaker 2: name is MOUSEI or Mouse.
Speaker 1: He had me hot Mice.
Speaker 3: I see, I seen, and that's why you know. I
Speaker 3: went on the post and I've seen it. And you know,
Speaker 3: people send you everything listen because you know they want
Speaker 3: to cause the confident. When I've seen it, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I no, bleak, And I could tell that there's a
Speaker 3: level of frustration.
Speaker 1: Oh I was. I was at the frust.
Speaker 3: It's frustration, you know. And I know being part of Rockefeller.
Speaker 3: I'm not even part of Rockefeller, and people act like
Speaker 3: I'm part.
Speaker 4: Of one feller.
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, I'm supposed to getting paper,
Speaker 3: so I know the frustration, you know, And I'm listening
Speaker 3: to you and I'm like, nah, bleak, don't mean that.
Speaker 4: It's just a level of frustration.
Speaker 3: And he's saying, fuck everybody is going that gym todded
Speaker 3: niggas going.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't my point. Like what it was. It's
Speaker 1: like first of all, I haven't done interviews in a minute.
Speaker 2: Like you know, since I got my own podcasts, I
Speaker 2: haven't been sitting down with anybody because I felt like
Speaker 2: any point I wanted to get across, I say it here.
Speaker 2: But being that I had music out, we just shut
Speaker 2: down Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: I went up there.
Speaker 2: I had no clue they was gonna throw in the
Speaker 2: target kap a Nick. So you know, my natural defense
Speaker 2: mechanism always gonna kick in when it comes down to
Speaker 2: my homies, I'm gonna defend first and think later.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And then when I sat back and watched it, I'm like,
Speaker 2: damn bleek. You could have said that a little different.
Speaker 2: It could have said it's a little different. That's why
Speaker 2: definitely when you reached out, it's like Mice is the
Speaker 2: perfect person to bring up here, so I could speak
Speaker 2: my truth and let people know. You know, that was
Speaker 2: out of anger, and that's not what I think. I'm
Speaker 2: all the way behind what you're doing. Like, yeah, I've
Speaker 2: been at the front line for every movement we had
Speaker 2: out here. Man, anything that been going down in our community,
Speaker 2: you've been on the front line. And me from a
Speaker 2: fans perspective of watching you rap. I want to know, like,
Speaker 2: what was the transition, what inspired you to even like
Speaker 2: be like, yo, I'm this is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think for me, it was just actually
Speaker 3: being involved in multiple facets, right, being in the streets,
Speaker 3: being incarcerated, coming home, just understanding the seriousness of what
Speaker 3: we're dealing with. I think first it started with being
Speaker 3: incarcerated and knowing.
Speaker 4: How many of.
Speaker 3: Us in ourselves, especially young black and Latino men, right,
Speaker 3: And it was like, you know what, I've been in
Speaker 3: the streets, and I know how they have tricked us,
Speaker 3: you know, and we brought into the wrong thing. So
Speaker 3: I wanted to come home, change that narrative and tell
Speaker 3: these kids the truth about what's going on. Right, these
Speaker 3: they got a whole structure that is designed to keep
Speaker 3: us inside of themselves and keep us, you know, away
Speaker 3: from anything that's positive, you know. So that's why when
Speaker 3: we talk about activism, and we have these conversations about activists,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't really understand the whole
Speaker 3: level of activism, you know.
Speaker 4: And that's what I was trying to tell.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bleak is not coming from a perspective of
Speaker 3: he's saying fuck activism, He's coming from a perspective of
Speaker 3: people who are being attacked, especially when you're in alignment.
Speaker 4: I'm attacked, like I see it, Like literally, I'm.
Speaker 3: On the front line doing work and people attacking me like, yo,
Speaker 3: you're not for the community. You the boulet and you
Speaker 3: with the illumine, all types of abortions. So I understand
Speaker 3: the frustration, but I do this work because it comes
Speaker 3: from my heart right, right. So when I'm when I'm
Speaker 3: watching and I'm seeing how people utilize and they try
Speaker 3: to tell us apart, they try to divide in confort, right,
Speaker 3: and that's what happens. And I'm watching all of these
Speaker 3: things every day, and I'm seeing how they attack J
Speaker 3: and they attack this, and they play the J and
Speaker 3: Kaepernick and they played it Rockefeller and everybody's situation. And
Speaker 3: we got to just be a little bit smarter, right,
Speaker 3: because they know how to say, well, what about this
Speaker 3: and what about this? And sometimes you just got to
Speaker 3: take a breath and just say because we have each
Speaker 3: other's though right, So when they talk about activism and
Speaker 3: they talk about this and that, you should say, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have a conversation with my son about that, right,
Speaker 3: because I have I got that man's direct content. That's
Speaker 3: one of my brothers, and I think that's that's what
Speaker 3: it is, because they definitely try to play this, They
Speaker 3: try to play us against each other.
Speaker 4: But I'm my activism comes from what Jay has done. Right.
Speaker 3: When Jay was talking about show you how to move
Speaker 3: in a room full of vultures. When Jay was talking
Speaker 3: about the end of the straight you need to be
Speaker 3: taken over. When you talk about nigga, I ain't know
Speaker 3: your token nigga. That that was what said. I know
Speaker 3: hip hop has a place in activism because I listen
Speaker 3: to j right, because I followed Ja and Nas and
Speaker 3: Nose and brothers like that. So activism and hip hop
Speaker 3: is hands in hand. It can't It's never gonna work
Speaker 3: without each other. So that's why we gotta be. We
Speaker 3: gotta understand. And that's why when people tell me about
Speaker 3: your Jay did this, and I'm like, well, y'all don't
Speaker 3: even know a lot of the ship that Jay has
Speaker 3: done for the movement silently.
Speaker 2: But that's why I say it's selective range with these people, man,
Speaker 2: because they just pick him because he's the biggest Target.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But all of us, my giac.
Speaker 2: If you want to purchase an album right now, if
Speaker 2: you not, if like physically purchase an album. I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about buy it from Apple, streaming on Title or Spotify.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about physical copy of an album where you're
Speaker 2: gonna go bro.
Speaker 3: No, and and those are things that the average person
Speaker 3: doesn't know right So because they don't know that, it's
Speaker 3: people like us that explain that. Because I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: a conversation when they say you're talking because literally we
Speaker 3: called the boycott to Mek. It was the first person,
Speaker 3: I mean Senator Nita Turner to Meek and Jamal Bryant.
Speaker 4: They was the forefront of the boycott.
Speaker 3: So when when that happened and they say Jay did
Speaker 3: a deal with Target, I'm reaching out to people that's
Speaker 3: in roy niggas because we family what's going on, and
Speaker 3: they're like.
Speaker 4: This ain't no exclusive deal.
Speaker 3: This this is the regular place that all of the records,
Speaker 3: everybody's music is there. We didn't have no exclusive deal
Speaker 3: with Target. So those are messages that we That's why
Speaker 3: y'all gotta use it. That's why I'm trying to say
Speaker 3: they can't divide us.
Speaker 4: That's what the game is. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: They divided Malcolm X and doctor Martin Luther King, they divided.
Speaker 3: Imagine if HUEP, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, James all
Speaker 3: of them were together, they couldn't they couldn't do nothing
Speaker 3: with them. And that's we in a moment right now
Speaker 3: where there's so much power. Well, when you when you
Speaker 3: go to the Yankee Stadium and you see jay Z
Speaker 3: got over forty thousand people in the building, right, this
Speaker 3: is history.
Speaker 4: That means that he got the.
Speaker 3: Ears of the people right, and they know that we
Speaker 3: have the streets, we have the people that really on
Speaker 3: the front lines of the civil rights when they know
Speaker 3: that when we make a decision and we decide that, listen,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get behind the.
Speaker 4: People because we work for the people. We don't.
Speaker 3: We don't call no boycotts because the people called the
Speaker 3: target boy Cause let's be clear, the people decided that
Speaker 3: target was the target. So when people ask, like, yo,
Speaker 3: why Target, why not Google?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 3: The people decided. People said what black people say, Yo,
Speaker 3: we spend a bunch of money in fucking Target. We
Speaker 3: damn near treat target like it's the club, especially black women.
Speaker 4: They going in there for seven to eight hours.
Speaker 3: So y'all telling us that y'all gonna take d away
Speaker 3: from us after all the money and the time we
Speaker 3: spend it. Fuck y'all, we gonna boycott, y'all because we
Speaker 3: know that we're gonna directly impact it exactly. And that's
Speaker 3: why over five billion dollars they lost in that. So
Speaker 3: when niggas act, why, it's because we knew that we
Speaker 3: can impact that. We can't boycott. It's no boycott in
Speaker 3: his three has ever been successful. Boycott and everybody, So
Speaker 3: there has to be a direct target. When you talk
Speaker 3: about boycott's to Montgomery boycott, they boycott at one place.
Speaker 3: There was a bunch of places that was racist against
Speaker 3: black people. But now they say, yo, we're gonna direct
Speaker 3: all this energy in one place. And he was able
Speaker 3: to move the need and make the mother fucking the boycott.
Speaker 3: The Montgomery bus company say look, you ain't getting on
Speaker 3: the back of the bus. So everything is a strategy
Speaker 3: and we understand that, and that's why we gotta. We
Speaker 3: need to utilize y'all life. When we come to y'all
Speaker 3: and be like, yo, listen, this was going on. We
Speaker 3: need something to be amplified when we need you to
Speaker 3: get up here and say some shit the same way
Speaker 3: we got a piggyback. We can't let these people trick
Speaker 3: us because that's what they've been doing for years. They divided, conquer.
Speaker 3: Oh he think this and this is his ideology on
Speaker 3: y'all beefing with each other. Now we not beefing with
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: We got one of the biggest hip hop artists in
Speaker 3: the world who've been funding this movement, who've been behind
Speaker 3: this movie, silently doing shit for this movement for years.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna let y'all separate us, even if we
Speaker 3: don't agree on everything, because we're humans exactly.
Speaker 4: My best friend, my mommy, and my mother used to have.
Speaker 3: But we we understand that we're trying to get black
Speaker 3: to the place we're supposed to be right, and that's
Speaker 3: where we intersect that.
Speaker 4: So we knuck.
Speaker 1: I'm that and you saying that. That's why I love
Speaker 1: the movement.
Speaker 2: You have boycott Black Murder because I believe we are
Speaker 2: our biggest enemy.
Speaker 1: We are bro like.
Speaker 2: It's no, it's like me like just so for hip hop,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it hip hop not even gonna dive
Speaker 2: deep into the streets with us, because that's a whole
Speaker 2: nother wormhole. But just in hip hop, right, if you
Speaker 2: look at all these platforms and everybody who has a podcast,
Speaker 2: streaming network, or whatever you want to call it, or
Speaker 2: whatever they call itself, all they do all day is
Speaker 2: shoot at each other. You know, from one is on
Speaker 2: this one, it's on that one. And if this one
Speaker 2: drop an album is critique them. Yo, this young boy,
Speaker 2: this nigga too old, this nigga young, he can't do it.
Speaker 2: No platform is bigg en up our culture. But they'll
Speaker 2: say hip hop is dying.
Speaker 4: But why why do you think that is? Tell me
Speaker 4: what you think it is.
Speaker 1: If I if I, I don't know what I believe
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: It's just natural instinct from what they believe the culture
Speaker 2: generation before them was because our generation, like think about it,
Speaker 2: the Jays, you know what I mean, Cash money, no
Speaker 2: Limit never linked up the you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it was a lot of separation thing. If I
Speaker 2: think the only link up back then really was the
Speaker 2: Hard Knocked Life Tour, you know what I'm saying. Other
Speaker 2: than that, and and what was that the smoke the
Speaker 2: doctor Dreanham tore Smoke, but that was more of the
Speaker 2: up and Smoke tour. That was more of the Death
Speaker 2: Row Records tour or what they were. But back then
Speaker 2: it was no what you would call it like. We
Speaker 2: didn't we didn't click up, we didn't link up, we
Speaker 2: didn't collaborate a lot. So I think the youth now
Speaker 2: and the streamers took that energy from music and put
Speaker 2: it on these platforms where they just spread instead of
Speaker 2: rapping out fuck with niggas or fuck these niggas. Is
Speaker 2: being sad now and they divide the artists think they
Speaker 2: divided fan bases.
Speaker 3: Bro they did, but it's like, but you gotta think
Speaker 3: about this, and I'm not saying I disagree with you,
Speaker 3: but just even and then I'm gonna bring it back
Speaker 3: to Jay because Jay said, truthfully, I want to round
Speaker 3: like common sense.
Speaker 4: That so five mils, I ain't rund like common sense.
Speaker 3: And the reality is that we live in a culture
Speaker 3: where an algorithm don't push the positivity when we're pushing
Speaker 3: each other together. If we not, if you not shooting
Speaker 3: at somebody else, it don't go viral. You do not
Speaker 3: see a viral clip of somebody celebrating somebody else. So
Speaker 3: somebody bigging somebody else. Who what what podcast do you
Speaker 3: see that's positive, that's amplifying other people, that's bringing up
Speaker 3: and amplifying people, that's going viral. They don't do the
Speaker 3: clips that go viral ate. The even Norri's podcast, right,
Speaker 3: Noorid be up there and he he The first thing
Speaker 3: he do is I'm bringing you up there with your flowers?
Speaker 3: Want to give your flowers? They don't show that part.
Speaker 3: They show when he having a conversation and saying that
Speaker 3: they had a conflict with somebody else.
Speaker 4: That's this culture that they created.
Speaker 3: They made it so that you cannot financially benefit off
Speaker 3: of nothing in our culture unless there.
Speaker 2: Is some conflict. I don't I don't think so tell
Speaker 2: me rock solid. We don't bash no one here.
Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to say, okay, do you think
Speaker 3: that you get the same views as somebody ass And
Speaker 3: that's what I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying to a third of the views.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, but you if you was up here, if you
Speaker 3: was up here controversial saying yo, these you'll be going
Speaker 3: l because that's what they want to see. And it's
Speaker 3: not even an. I don't think it's our nature. We
Speaker 3: don't want to be for niggas. You think you want
Speaker 3: to sit around and be for niggas. I don't want
Speaker 3: to have no And that's why my podcast is steadily
Speaker 3: just doing what it does, because we don't sit up
Speaker 3: there and promote negativity and promote how Black's gonna move,
Speaker 3: howos and us to be together all.
Speaker 1: These things, and that's my thing.
Speaker 2: I try to give out game to the youngins, like
Speaker 2: if any youngins or even people my age that feel
Speaker 2: like because you're never too old to get it right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I made mistakes.
Speaker 2: So I try to be here and be transparent as
Speaker 2: possible with people and let them know like nobody's perfect.
Speaker 2: I definitely wasn't, you know what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 2: made mistakes.
Speaker 1: These are the moves we made to correct them. And
Speaker 1: this is what I'm into.
Speaker 2: So I use this platform definitely to uplift not only
Speaker 2: my hip hop partners in my pears, but just like
Speaker 2: the community, because I want these niggas to understand like
Speaker 2: I don't have to hate you to get money. That's
Speaker 2: where they I think it's confusion where they think because
Speaker 2: you making all the money right now for me to
Speaker 2: get Brad, I gotta I gotta target you.
Speaker 1: And that's not bro.
Speaker 2: They burn money every year, they print and burn money
Speaker 2: every year.
Speaker 3: They don't see where the positive is beneficial.
Speaker 2: And that's what I had this conversation because I see
Speaker 2: it with you, but you know with D one.
Speaker 3: But even but listening D one, even though D one
Speaker 3: is controversial, is because he's going on somebody else. Right,
Speaker 3: even though it's positive, he's saying that this person right
Speaker 3: here is saying negative.
Speaker 4: So they promote the beef.
Speaker 3: They're not really promoting that he's positive because when he
Speaker 3: just said, Yo, we need to change what we're doing
Speaker 3: in hip hop this and that if he don't say
Speaker 3: a name that's attached to it, it ain't nothing he
Speaker 3: and unfortunately he realizes that and that's what happens, and
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of people say it to theyself. Damn,
Speaker 3: I been trying to do it the right way on
Speaker 3: long time. So let me just pick up a be
Speaker 3: I got. I got dudes who built their whole life
Speaker 3: on YouTube talking about me.
Speaker 4: I never respond, never had a conversation.
Speaker 3: But just because they built a website or whatever, and
Speaker 3: decided he was gonna talk about me. People tune in
Speaker 3: every week and it's the strange and shit to me.
Speaker 3: And but but that's what the culture has celebrated because
Speaker 3: that's where the money is. Is the fact that you
Speaker 3: got niggas like academics in them that nothing but talk
Speaker 3: about people, and they literally have been rated the top
Speaker 3: hip hop.
Speaker 4: What in hip hop? Just think, just think about how
Speaker 4: funny that is.
Speaker 1: I feel that's crazy to me.
Speaker 3: Like we was born in hip hop, like we was
Speaker 3: bred nigga. I went from battles in the park our
Speaker 3: battle DMX. I bet anybody you know you know we were.
Speaker 3: We had to go through, we had to go through
Speaker 3: the trenches. I know everything about hip hop from the eighties.
Speaker 3: That man don't know nothing about hip hop. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But he could get on a platform and just talk
Speaker 3: and create beef for niggas and they say that he
Speaker 3: dictates what hip hop is. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If we you we ran a fuck that place, bro,
Speaker 2: If that's what dictates hip hop, were the.
Speaker 4: Place, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I see the clips of act I really don't pay
Speaker 2: attention some of them are entertaining some of them, I
Speaker 2: du listen to. I'm not gonna lie. But when he
Speaker 2: when he talking that hood gang ship, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't get in that because that's not his life. So
Speaker 2: I don't like when niggas promote something they don't know
Speaker 2: nothing about.
Speaker 3: But it's the only clips you see is when he's
Speaker 3: talking about somebody else. It's never a clip you see
Speaker 3: where he's just giving you.
Speaker 1: I like his clips where he's breaking down the music.
Speaker 3: But he's breaking down the music and he always be like, well,
Speaker 3: this is not that good and that person is this good,
Speaker 3: and he can't complete with that because he always needs
Speaker 3: some conflict for the clips to go viral.
Speaker 4: But and they figured that out.
Speaker 1: I'm not defending act don't don't don't. I'm not.
Speaker 2: Nobody will take that the wrong way because I want
Speaker 2: to have a sit down with him the way he
Speaker 2: shoot at my team too. I want to have that.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to sit there listen.
Speaker 1: But this is my thing, right.
Speaker 2: But I think the people like academics Whack one hundred,
Speaker 2: a lot of people might not understand them and get
Speaker 2: their message to Charleston Whites. To me, they needed bro
Speaker 2: they're needed. They are the new generation. Wendy Williams, starn
Speaker 2: Buck Wild, Miss Jones. They it's the same thing they
Speaker 2: were just on the airwaves.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't think it's the same because
Speaker 3: even when you're talking about we weren't.
Speaker 2: Gang members back then, bro, but they was talking about
Speaker 2: all the negativity that.
Speaker 4: But the segitivity too though there was there was a balance.
Speaker 1: I give you.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. There's no better. I asked.
Speaker 4: I had this conversation with Flip.
Speaker 3: I said, Flip, tell me one thing positive that act
Speaker 3: has done for him, but this one. Tell me one
Speaker 3: interview anything, one positive thing, show me one positive clip.
Speaker 2: I don't follow the kids, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Did this I watched, I said, I'm a clip watch.
Speaker 4: I'm just asking you.
Speaker 3: When you watch it, you'll see him break down an
Speaker 3: hour because but I'm talking about something positive. You if
Speaker 3: you a millionaire and you ain't even never threw a
Speaker 3: barbecue in the hood and get you.
Speaker 4: Tell niggas you got twenty minis, I made this money.
Speaker 4: You ain't give kids no pencils in the hood.
Speaker 1: But he from a hood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he's saying for the saying from Jersey
Speaker 3: you have not even from the hood.
Speaker 4: You ain't say yo.
Speaker 3: You know what, We're gonna do something positive, were gon.
Speaker 3: We're gonna promote somebody. We're gonna do something on the
Speaker 3: strength like I want to see. I think for me right,
Speaker 3: I'm at a stage in my life where I've seen
Speaker 3: so many different things and I understand what the average
Speaker 3: person is dealing with in our communities, and I know
Speaker 3: how they grab one to bullshit if that's all you.
Speaker 4: Give them, because is trash.
Speaker 3: So this is the new Niggas are streaming all day
Speaker 3: like a B and the getting I'm happy to see
Speaker 3: a B changing his life, but I'm watching a B
Speaker 3: and I'm rooting for a B to.
Speaker 1: Be a B.
Speaker 2: But listen that nigga better loan me his trainer for
Speaker 2: two months.
Speaker 1: Gotta funck that nigga lost that stomach in one.
Speaker 4: With a gott.
Speaker 3: You don't got nobody, but that's what I want to see.
Speaker 3: I'm so angry that all we promote is degeneracy in
Speaker 3: our culture, bro like, because we were.
Speaker 4: Way better than that fact. And I hated that fact.
Speaker 3: That we had to watch a B drunk every day
Speaker 3: looking crazy because that's not that man was a champion.
Speaker 1: But people watching them clean up, and I love that.
Speaker 4: I want that's.
Speaker 2: I love that they wanted to get right and get
Speaker 2: back because I'm watching I didn't watch the drunk.
Speaker 3: One of the boxer like that man was seriously a
Speaker 3: great boxer. That's a fact they wanted. And I'm glad
Speaker 3: he's switching the table. But that's what I want to see.
Speaker 3: That's I want to see us promoting the positivity.
Speaker 1: Chubby up here, like you know, like DJ Diesel and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nigga, you ain't document none of this.
Speaker 4: Should have he should have.
Speaker 2: Like that's the ship we got to put in the
Speaker 2: communite that we better take a care of my whalthy.
Speaker 4: But who's going to promote it?
Speaker 3: Right, we don't even have We don't even got our
Speaker 3: own platforms or nothing to wear black beneficial power and
Speaker 3: that excellent thing is promoted.
Speaker 1: Is that anything? Think we tried when Jay tried to
Speaker 1: launch title everybody bashed them but killed them for that.
Speaker 3: Listen, that's part of the game that he knows heavy
Speaker 3: as they had that.
Speaker 4: Because the thing is.
Speaker 3: Doing something different, you're going to get st you're going
Speaker 3: to get destructured the white people own everything.
Speaker 4: That's how you think that.
Speaker 3: You're gonna take all of your black star power bring
Speaker 3: all them. Nah, hell no, We're gonna do everything we
Speaker 3: possibly can to deter that.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing right there, us as a community, right,
Speaker 2: if we know that, then why we won't all rallied
Speaker 2: behind each other and push that narrative so we could change.
Speaker 3: It because a lot of us are just followers of
Speaker 3: the structure, right, and and what happens is they're not
Speaker 3: enough of us that's willing to just keep on going
Speaker 3: because I say, that's a lot of people periods. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying when we talk about I don't know
Speaker 3: this and I'm gonna keep it up. I don't know
Speaker 3: no black leader that we had that at some point
Speaker 3: they didn't say it was the sellout, not one.
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
Speaker 3: And so I said, Jackson and every person that fought
Speaker 3: for us with a seller. And then you know what,
Speaker 3: I started paying attention to So God bless his dad,
Speaker 3: one of my mentors, how Belafonte, right, And I don't
Speaker 3: see people too many people ever say he sold up,
Speaker 3: but I watched him transition for the last ten years
Speaker 3: of his life. And then they put out a documentary
Speaker 3: of him and they showed about four decades of him
Speaker 3: right like and I watched him this age and he
Speaker 3: had this energy like he was grabbing the young activists like, yo,
Speaker 3: we gotta find a gender, We gotta be out there
Speaker 3: fighting y'all out there protests, and this is how you
Speaker 3: gotta do it. He was teaching them, and then every
Speaker 3: generation he lost a little bit of energy because it
Speaker 3: was like, this is the same shit over and over.
Speaker 3: We are we on a treadmill, like these niggs ain't
Speaker 3: gonna really let us get nowhere, and that's what starts happening.
Speaker 3: You got people that be fighting, and then you were like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck am I fighting for? Because the same
Speaker 3: people I'm fighting for is trying to kill me. And
Speaker 3: then you say, fuck that. You know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go over here, make sure me and my family is good.
Speaker 3: And then once you do that, they gonna say you
Speaker 3: so no, my nigga. Even when he took about all shots,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna mean to cut you. You may got
Speaker 3: locked up over fifty times. He did a bunch of
Speaker 3: times in jail, got shots that all types of shit.
Speaker 3: Nobody talks about that. They just called him minute. You
Speaker 3: don't realize all the shit he sacrificed. The average nigga
Speaker 3: never sacrificed.
Speaker 2: Like Muhammad Ali. That's what I respect. Nobody understands that
Speaker 2: and I sacrifice.
Speaker 3: You sit there and call a nigga sell out that
Speaker 3: you didn't do one percent of what he did.
Speaker 4: That how are people?
Speaker 2: So let me ask you what that being said, how
Speaker 2: you feel about the Kapernick slammer that they give Jay.
Speaker 2: We're dealing with the NFL, because to me, let me
Speaker 2: just tell you me my point of view and my
Speaker 2: my perspectives. God, like I spoke like, not like I
Speaker 2: spoke to Jay. I didn't hear this from Jay. We
Speaker 2: don't talk about this. These are not his words. So
Speaker 2: don't think that this is my opinion. If you your
Speaker 2: choice is I'm gonna make this movement, and that choice
Speaker 2: cast you your job right, and then an artist that
Speaker 2: you don't know, didn't grow up with, don't own you,
Speaker 2: no allegiance nothing, come and take a deal with the NFL.
Speaker 1: How've went down? I don't know. I'm not in the meetings.
Speaker 2: But to change the halftime the narrative of black culture,
Speaker 2: whatever they was, they was pushing their agenda.
Speaker 1: You know what, it was probably more than me.
Speaker 2: But my thing is, if your teammates didn't follow you,
Speaker 2: why should Jay have to follow you?
Speaker 1: Why is he wrong?
Speaker 2: They continue to play and still play to this day,
Speaker 2: but because Jay do a halftime show, he's wrong.
Speaker 3: Let me let me let me give you my perspective
Speaker 3: from the inside, okay, right, so that your your your
Speaker 3: perspective is a perspective. Don't know if I would exactly
Speaker 3: agree with that to the fullest extant, but I'm giving
Speaker 3: you from the inside.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So when the whole cabinick thing first started, my organization
Speaker 3: WILL was one of the first organizations to protest with Kaepernick.
Speaker 3: Like we went to the NFL, had a big protest
Speaker 3: outside the NFL downtown. We was at the headquarters, like
Speaker 3: we spearheaded all of that. We was on the emails
Speaker 3: with Kaepernick like I was front line.
Speaker 4: I had I'm with capped T shirts.
Speaker 3: I remember all that the NFL, Like I was to
Speaker 3: the point where there was a time like when they
Speaker 3: was doing the Super Bowl and the Battle Rappers.
Speaker 4: This is my niggas.
Speaker 3: They did a commercial for the NFL like they always
Speaker 3: Battle Rapping and the audishit and these is my niggas
Speaker 3: and I went online, It's like, your niggas really selling
Speaker 3: us out. We boycott the NFL, and yet they y'all
Speaker 3: really they really paid y'all to do this. And Kay Shin,
Speaker 3: who was my man, me and him almost got into
Speaker 3: a situation in the club. We in the strip club
Speaker 3: and he walked up to me like, yo, you're attacking
Speaker 3: it and we faced and face. I'm like, my nigga,
Speaker 3: this is what we're doing, Like nah, but we don't
Speaker 3: know nothing about that. I'm a nigga from the hood,
Speaker 3: just trying. And I said, I have to respect that
Speaker 3: and I love you. And we had both of our
Speaker 3: teams together. We had to say now that sh it
Speaker 3: ain't like that. This is my brother. But it caused tension.
Speaker 3: So I was really in this shit for real, right,
Speaker 3: So we going back and forth and we're trying to
Speaker 3: boycott this and that. I see Jay come in. He
Speaker 3: got the cabinick jersey. He front and center with it.
Speaker 3: One day, Kaepernick stopped answering nigga's phone calls were on
Speaker 3: the line, like we didn't we planned the next action.
Speaker 4: We're on the email.
Speaker 3: They like your caperin Nigga's not answering nobody's emails no more.
Speaker 4: He done left the group chats, damn, and niggas just.
Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean, Yeah, I don't know about it.
Speaker 3: I said this, what I'm saying this this, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you this for a fact. I know this for a fact.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, what you mean he left it? Like
Speaker 3: we don't know And this happened for weeks. Like you
Speaker 3: can ask top activists. A lot of them don't say nothing,
Speaker 3: but a lot of them know this shit happened, damn.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, what you mean he left the group chat.
Speaker 3: He's like nah, They like he just went solid on us.
Speaker 3: And then next thing you know, we've seen Kaepernick has
Speaker 3: a settlement. He got a settlement. They say he signed
Speaker 3: to NDA, and I'm like, he didn't tell us.
Speaker 1: He didn't.
Speaker 3: So you saying that we did all of this shit,
Speaker 3: that nigga sacrifice and beefing with other niggas and were
Speaker 3: doing all the shit, and a nigga we sacrificed for
Speaker 3: just disappeared from the movement and didn't even notify us
Speaker 3: to say you, look, I'm gonna take this because you
Speaker 3: got the right to take the.
Speaker 4: See right, nigga, this is your job.
Speaker 3: Like everybody said, Yo, he took a settlement for it
Speaker 3: and I and he should have took a settlement because
Speaker 3: they owed him his money, but he owed us, the
Speaker 3: people that sacrifice with him, the right and just the
Speaker 3: heads up to say this is what we're doing. This
Speaker 3: shit is because we can't for a movement for you
Speaker 3: without you.
Speaker 1: I can't fight I can't for you for you.
Speaker 3: If you can't say no, you're not saying you can't
Speaker 3: even if you don't want to say noing whatever it is,
Speaker 3: we can't fight you the face of this ship. We
Speaker 3: because we need to be able to be at the
Speaker 3: press conference what you was saying. We got Kavnick here
Speaker 3: and we're standing with him in the NFL need to
Speaker 3: do him right.
Speaker 4: So now we don't.
Speaker 3: Even got the evidence that you got that they said
Speaker 3: that they colluded and did this ship. You can't even
Speaker 3: present that to the public normal. You can't even expose
Speaker 3: the NFL for the ship they did wrong. So how
Speaker 3: can we help you? And you left us in the
Speaker 3: fucking trenches with nothing. So now I'm saying, Tom, I'm
Speaker 3: i suld of God, I'm on to I'm like, y'all serious,
Speaker 3: like this happened at Charlotte Charlamage to tell you it's
Speaker 3: niggas will tell you that this literally happened. And I
Speaker 3: was so confused. So when Jaye did it, I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: niggas gotta figure out how do we salvage some of
Speaker 3: the ship to where we just ain't left in the
Speaker 3: trenches with nothing. Because if you put your face and
Speaker 3: your your your capital, your your your celebrity capital on
Speaker 3: the line to stay with a nigga and he just
Speaker 3: damn and then there how am I mad at him
Speaker 3: for saying, okay, fuck that we're gonna get something out
Speaker 3: of this. That's right, right, We're gonna Black people are
Speaker 3: gonna get something out of this because we didn't do
Speaker 3: all of this, come this all this way for him
Speaker 3: to just take a settlement and we didn't get nothing
Speaker 3: like that because I didn't think that's what it was about.
Speaker 3: And even if it was, that was about, tell us
Speaker 3: that's what it's about so we could fall back and
Speaker 3: that's and that's for me. And it's like, and I
Speaker 3: knew this for years and I keep get a niggas
Speaker 3: say this, I'm like, yo, niggas dire Nick Kaepernick left
Speaker 3: us in the trenches. Bro, this was all He was
Speaker 3: the general of the army and left the fucking on
Speaker 3: me in the trenches and idea nigga to tell me
Speaker 3: I'm lying.
Speaker 4: This is on my kids. I did, nigga tell me
Speaker 4: I'm mind, and that shit hurt me because I'm a
Speaker 4: and I still love what he does to this day. Bro,
Speaker 4: I love he got there.
Speaker 3: I know your rights, and I'm not saying anything against
Speaker 3: what he sacrificed, even he just paid for the young
Speaker 3: boys autopsy, all these things. I love what he does,
Speaker 3: but I just don't like this narrative that niggas did
Speaker 3: dirty by him when he literally left, and and if
Speaker 3: that's what you wanted to do, I'm just saying I
Speaker 3: would have never did That's right. I just would have
Speaker 3: never left niggas that followed me and was willing to
Speaker 3: sacrifice for me because you sacrificed.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: So if I sacrifice, if I see you sacrifice it,
Speaker 3: and I decided that I'm gonna sacrifice with you, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna least say you look, yo, we're gonna take this settlement.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be to say nothing.
Speaker 3: Give me a hand he met To this day, there's
Speaker 3: never been a conversation, and he acts like he mad
Speaker 3: with everybody else. And I'm so confused with that sh
Speaker 3: bro No for real, to be honest, that shit bothers
Speaker 3: me to this day. And I got love for the
Speaker 3: man because the way he sacrificed. When I was watching
Speaker 3: that man kneel at them games and I knew he
Speaker 3: was taking all that ship, I was like, Yo, I'm.
Speaker 4: Riding with him. What I gotta do. I don't care.
Speaker 3: I love NFL, but I'm not watching that ship. I'm
Speaker 3: not buying that. I'm not fucking with niggas like that's.
Speaker 1: How I ride. I ride with you. I'm wrong with you.
Speaker 4: So for you to leave us like that, that ship
Speaker 4: just didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3: And I'm it's tired of the narrative that keep getting
Speaker 3: spread that niggas did this to that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: It just gad you explain that because they was trying
Speaker 2: to crucify me like I did the Morning show where
Speaker 2: merrow in them on Hot ninety seven.
Speaker 4: I forgot the female name. You remember my name, Chico.
Speaker 2: God blessed me, beautiful, But you're still beautiful, but she
Speaker 2: tried to crucify me with the cap shit like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it wasn't. That's I know NASA shoutow nests. I knew
Speaker 2: nests before she became his wife. I had, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, matter before. But I'm glad you brought it,
Speaker 2: brought some light to some insight to it, rather not
Speaker 2: even like because they've been crucifying Jay, like as if
Speaker 2: he went to the NFL and told them, yo, move home,
Speaker 2: me out the way I got this and the didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Like what I would say is that I think he
Speaker 3: could have phrased it. We done kneeling shit better, like
Speaker 3: I said, And I had that with this. I said, look,
Speaker 3: Bro done it like he didn't have to say that.
Speaker 3: He could have just said, look, we listen, Kaepernick is here.
Speaker 3: He done what he did on We're just trying to
Speaker 3: move and do something else. You know, we're trying to
Speaker 3: provide a different situation. But the dune nil and it
Speaker 3: just came across as a way. And that's just like,
Speaker 3: and I can say I disagree with Bro.
Speaker 1: I could disagree with many things Jay said.
Speaker 2: It's just like when I just slipped up and said
Speaker 2: man fuck act of it, Like, I'm pretty sure what
Speaker 2: he meant wasn't how it was.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That mean And we got to
Speaker 3: give our people enough grace. Of the problem is that
Speaker 3: we don't give our people. No, we don't. We don't
Speaker 3: look at the resume in totality and we just look
Speaker 3: at It's just like if a nigga got five championships
Speaker 3: and we lose that one game, I just want I
Speaker 3: got five chips, You forgot them chips over Yep. That's
Speaker 3: how it is. You just as good as your last.
Speaker 3: But that's just our culture, bro.
Speaker 2: I believe that's just in our community, because we the
Speaker 2: only culture that you're guilty even after your proven innocent.
Speaker 3: Even other another reason why, because we don't control the narrative.
Speaker 3: We don't control our own narrative. They get to control
Speaker 3: what gets pushed to the people. They control the media,
Speaker 3: like we got a president that does the This nigga
Speaker 3: is the biggest scammer in the world.
Speaker 4: And they'll tell you what I've never seen no ship
Speaker 4: like yo.
Speaker 2: But listening in front of you like list But I'm
Speaker 2: being honest, I know it's gonna be I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not Republican, I'm not Democrat, but now you gotta respect it.
Speaker 1: Man here in New York, nigga, he's that bag right.
Speaker 2: If you put a hustler for one of my marks
Speaker 2: niggas in that office, they could do the same.
Speaker 3: But they couldn't do the same thing because if a
Speaker 3: black Spanish nigga try to do that ship, you've been
Speaker 3: in jail the first day, like you've been in jail
Speaker 3: the first day. So that's what I just would. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't respect that. We could do that if you gave
Speaker 3: if you said, yo, look this ship is easy. Everybody
Speaker 3: could do it.
Speaker 1: Give us the.
Speaker 3: Same playing field, then I'm cool with it. But try
Speaker 3: y'all can't keep controlling the playing field. Y'all get to
Speaker 3: control who gets this. Y'all can get control what message
Speaker 3: gets put out. Y'all get nah my, nigga. That's that's
Speaker 3: what white supremacy does. And we we and a lot
Speaker 3: of us don't even understand why it's planning. We ain't
Speaker 3: no fucking white people.
Speaker 2: Get your people that say it's no racism, it doesn't
Speaker 2: like it don't exist.
Speaker 1: Like it don't exist. You fucking kidding me.
Speaker 2: I deal with it every day, every day, every day, every.
Speaker 4: Day, and it's like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that's what it is, and it's like and that's
Speaker 3: why I understand where we are and understand that we
Speaker 3: don't have the time to be beef on.
Speaker 4: I'm not unless you somebody effect that.
Speaker 3: I can say that you've never done nothing positive and
Speaker 3: I don't know what you add.
Speaker 4: I'm not beefing with another black No, if.
Speaker 1: It don't affect my family, on my money.
Speaker 3: If it's not affecting the bottom line of the coach,
Speaker 3: if you're not doing some shit that that's directly is
Speaker 3: going to impact us in.
Speaker 4: A negative way.
Speaker 3: You might say something different than our say just like
Speaker 3: when you said what you said, I said, let me
Speaker 3: hear bleak exactly. But that's what man, I ain't going online.
Speaker 3: I say, Yo, what bleak trying to say? Nigga, that's
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get that from me.
Speaker 1: Because that's when you know me and we need thirty years.
Speaker 1: You know. That's not what I'm meant.
Speaker 4: That's not how I feel.
Speaker 1: I love my pig. I want to see us when
Speaker 1: they can't wait.
Speaker 4: You know how many people just kept sending me that ship?
Speaker 4: So what I'm sorted to go up there and bash
Speaker 4: bleak there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, because they were so
Speaker 3: quick to do that, that's right that we don't do that.
Speaker 1: I just we need to be quick.
Speaker 4: Even when Jay did that.
Speaker 3: So I'm in the I'm inside the state there when
Speaker 3: he's talking about the target ship, right, so knowing that
Speaker 3: we did the target boy yeah, and he like, it's
Speaker 3: you know, is it this or that? Niggas can't wait
Speaker 3: for so niggas hear me, like, so, what you want
Speaker 3: to say here talking about to talk to the boycott?
Speaker 4: How you feel about that?
Speaker 3: I said, well, I don't agree with what he said,
Speaker 3: but I still love Jay and I can disagree with you.
Speaker 4: And I actually wrote a letter to Jay.
Speaker 1: You don't have to agree whatever, you don't have.
Speaker 4: To And that's that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Nobody.
Speaker 4: I don't have a niggas like Yo, you can't talk nigga.
Speaker 3: Don't have a relationship with a nigga that I can't
Speaker 3: disagree with, a fat grown, a dope mask a fact.
Speaker 3: I've never had to bite my tongue to nobody. There's
Speaker 3: nobody that's above reproach and above critique to me and
Speaker 3: then if I love you, I'm gonna tell me that
Speaker 3: because I want you to be better, hurts you. And
Speaker 3: even if you disagree with me and we can have
Speaker 3: a disagreement and I can still love you.
Speaker 1: Hashtag non dependence.
Speaker 4: That's youall situation. I watch that. Y'all can fix that too,
Speaker 4: because I don't even know where that should come from.
Speaker 1: And you know what it is.
Speaker 4: That's another thing.
Speaker 3: Right when I watch the fifty in jay ship, because
Speaker 3: it's fifty j ship, right, I'm gonna say it that way,
Speaker 3: it's because they've taught I will culture that can only.
Speaker 1: Be one person.
Speaker 2: So I remember they our coach is that that is
Speaker 2: the living example of breaking Bobby. But if you ain't
Speaker 2: number one, if you ain't number Wayne said, if you
Speaker 2: if you ain't number one, you number two.
Speaker 3: Or it's crazy because these are two fucking icons that
Speaker 3: did they ship and both did it their own way.
Speaker 3: They're both moving, both successful. Imagine both of them at
Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 4: Imagine happen.
Speaker 3: I can just imagine, Yeah, imagine them niggas doing something
Speaker 3: new like But that's but that's that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: They told our culture that only one person can be
Speaker 3: at the top and I gotta shoot at you, and
Speaker 3: I got to shoot at you, and we can't be
Speaker 3: friends because the people need to see that conflict in
Speaker 3: a minute that they think that we men died the thing,
Speaker 3: then there's.
Speaker 1: No more use to this is the thing though.
Speaker 2: I never I watched the gun their movement from the
Speaker 2: beginning to where they are now, and they come on
Speaker 2: they doing the television thing got the lyric that got
Speaker 2: the spirits, just like us doing anything. Bro, I never
Speaker 2: watched the man pocket a day in my life. I
Speaker 2: never cared how you paid your bills or why. As
Speaker 2: long as you did, it's all that matters to me.
Speaker 2: So for a person to sit there and wonder how
Speaker 2: I pay my bills on the strength of whoever, Bro,
Speaker 2: I gotta speak on that, because I'm not.
Speaker 3: Saying you you're supposed to speak on you defend yourself
Speaker 3: and not deal with you. Don't tolerate disrespect. I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: why is it the disrespect? But I want to get
Speaker 3: to the route right, because it ain't really don't so crazy.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody shooting nobody, A nobody kill nobody. But you
Speaker 3: know what's so crazy? It's some unit, some shit that
Speaker 3: was created to keep people separated, especially keep our people.
Speaker 2: Saying, like I told you, I have a I sit
Speaker 2: down on this couch. I sat down on this couch
Speaker 2: with many people that we disagreed with. When the Warway
Speaker 2: had problems, I spoke to Gym Cam. I got mad
Speaker 2: people up here.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I invited Uncle Murder here before all this shit happened.
Speaker 2: Remember me and Uncle Murda got a relationship. Invited him
Speaker 2: and he denied. Did Tony ye yo know he could
Speaker 2: come up here and have a man in man conversation
Speaker 2: with me anytime he won. I'm never gonna dede that,
Speaker 2: and we could settle whatever did. But it's not no beef.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's just it's not even I think it's like I said,
Speaker 3: it's a conflict that comes from just status and feeling
Speaker 3: like it can only be one number one, Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I never felt like that. And I'm so mad that
Speaker 3: I was. Culture pushes that ship.
Speaker 1: It's whack, it's whack. I'm mad.
Speaker 3: That's my best moment was watching Jay and I's come
Speaker 3: on that stage, even though the day three was crazy,
Speaker 3: just watching all of the fucking but that moment, right there,
Speaker 3: my nigga. I literally had a tea in my eye.
Speaker 3: I was sitting next to Joe Hip Hop.
Speaker 4: Joe was in.
Speaker 3: Joe's fucking Sweet and I looked at Joe fat me
Speaker 3: looked at each other.
Speaker 4: And we you know, and I was like, Yo, my nigga,
Speaker 4: this is jay.
Speaker 3: Z ands on stage. And that's what this ship is.
Speaker 3: Niggas crazy from the trenches ad living for each other.
Speaker 3: It could be to the wrapping on each other, beast nigga,
Speaker 3: and they know they they niggas know that in their
Speaker 3: own perspectives they are great.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: And they don't feel no.
Speaker 3: They come to the point in understanding like, nigga, I
Speaker 3: can be great along with you being great.
Speaker 2: That's a facus. So now, like I said out here,
Speaker 2: it's enough room, enough money.
Speaker 4: Is doing entrepreneurship. Casinos.
Speaker 1: They even trying to battle them with the casinos because.
Speaker 3: That's what they want. They can't wait to pick us
Speaker 3: against you.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: No matter what you do, they bat they gonna Yo.
Speaker 2: So what's next for you, my g what's the next
Speaker 2: move for my guy?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm doing a lot of activism. Shout
Speaker 3: out to the mayor of New York. You know, I
Speaker 3: was working the whole transition team as the world I
Speaker 3: forgot you was with the may running around, yeah, working
Speaker 3: on the criminal justice perform and also community safety. So
Speaker 3: I really just want to What I want to do
Speaker 3: is create centers, like not even schools, but centers for
Speaker 3: young average young boys, because a lot of our kids
Speaker 3: don't want to go to school.
Speaker 1: That's what they want.
Speaker 3: They want careers, right, So I want to have them
Speaker 3: centers to where you got career training, you know, teaching
Speaker 3: them how to do anything they want. You got sports
Speaker 3: in there, you got mentors in there to where it's
Speaker 3: at home, that's facing where they could come and they
Speaker 3: feel comfortable. Because I realized some shit with my ten
Speaker 3: year old was taking when he was I think he
Speaker 3: was eight or nine, I was taking them to school
Speaker 3: and he's just started crying, right and I'm like, what
Speaker 3: the fuck are you crying for? And he's like, cause
Speaker 3: I don't want to go to school. I said, why
Speaker 3: you don't want to go? He said, because I don't
Speaker 3: really learn in school. I said, they want he said,
Speaker 3: they want me to sit down.
Speaker 4: I learned off the world.
Speaker 3: I learned off just being outside the energy, just seeing
Speaker 3: different things, and they just want me to sit and
Speaker 3: it's cheat and be quiet all day. And that's not
Speaker 3: how I feel comfortable. And that's how multiple I never
Speaker 3: felt comfortable like learning like that.
Speaker 2: And that's crazy to say that I went to a
Speaker 2: center as a kid like that. When I used to
Speaker 2: go visit my grandmoms in Brownsville called the BRC. They know,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. As a shorty. They had the sports, the basketball,
Speaker 2: they had the baseball shit, they had the business classes
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: They had everything.
Speaker 2: And so when you talking about it's like word, I
Speaker 2: remember seeing shit like that.
Speaker 3: Sure like, and you you got the right people in there.
Speaker 3: You got mentors, you got men like us to understand
Speaker 3: what they're going to. You know they they ain't got
Speaker 3: some stiff white man trying to tell him to shut
Speaker 3: up because he don't even identify for who the fuck
Speaker 3: they are. Because I remember I was in third grade.
Speaker 3: My third grade teacher told me I'd be dead before
Speaker 3: I was eighteen. Looked me dead in my face.
Speaker 4: You'll be dead.
Speaker 3: Before you was eighteen, damn. And Chris white Man, look,
Speaker 3: he was so serious about that shit. Bro, that's crazy
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So if we don't got us teaching
Speaker 3: us and we don't got us, you know, mentoring us
Speaker 3: and putting us in the right direction, then we we
Speaker 3: doomed to fail. So I want to create that, Like
Speaker 3: I know, it's a lot of at risk and its
Speaker 3: energy right, especially these young gang members, they just got misdirected,
Speaker 3: these as leaders with misdirected energy. To John O'Brien, he said,
Speaker 3: a drug dealer is just a misdirected business person. You know,
Speaker 3: he understands im poor export, he understands how to negotiate.
Speaker 4: So when you show him all you put him in the.
Speaker 3: Right that's Jay shows you that even fifty showed you
Speaker 3: that you took them niggas out of the element, and
Speaker 3: you give him that same skills, saying you put him
Speaker 3: into corporate.
Speaker 4: Offices, they gonna win.
Speaker 3: So I want to be able to captivate that these
Speaker 3: young kids early because I have had seminars with principles.
Speaker 4: It's asking me, why can't we keep these young.
Speaker 3: Blacks because we young black boys have the lowest graduation,
Speaker 3: Like why we can't keep them? Because you don't have
Speaker 3: anything that is So I want to create that for them.
Speaker 3: I want because I know what we could do when
Speaker 3: you give us. We shouldn't have to.
Speaker 4: Go to jail and then figure it out and come home.
Speaker 3: Nah, because if you give us the opportunities and you
Speaker 3: steer us in the right direction and we see.
Speaker 4: How we can, we're gonna win.
Speaker 3: If the playing field is even, we're gonna win every time.
Speaker 3: That's a fact, you know. So that's what I really
Speaker 3: want to focus on. I'm putting on working on some
Speaker 3: more music. So you be still got the bars listen
Speaker 3: in shop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we gotta.
Speaker 4: Get the studio, man, We owe that.
Speaker 2: We owe that for one time, right, come on, one time,
Speaker 2: my time, one man.
Speaker 1: Man, Yo, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Love man, you know that always loves anytime you got
Speaker 2: anything to dress, say my doors, open my platform.
Speaker 4: We gotta put you up on our platform. Let's me
Speaker 4: do my gym. Some questions for Yeah, she gonna drill.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta go, sar.
Speaker 2: I gotta train like Rocky in the snow like he
Speaker 2: fighting Drago because to me because serious.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, you gotta come up.
Speaker 1: And let's get it.
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