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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and Getty and

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Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: This was the first time President Obama and Mayor Mom

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Speaker 3: Donnie publicly appeared together. We're told they had a private

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Speaker 3: conversation before reading to the children and singing the wheels

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Speaker 3: on the bus go round and round. This was at

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Speaker 3: Learning through Play pre K Center in the Bronx. Obama

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Speaker 3: spends about thirty minutes on the phone with Mom Donnie

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Speaker 3: just before election, Gay reportedly calling him impressive to watch

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Speaker 3: and offered to be quote a sounding board for the

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Speaker 1: And then they read the Koran together, right, Michael, never

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Speaker 1: forget Oh my god, and I I have such a

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Speaker 1: natural physical revulsion to the term pre.

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Speaker 2: K it makes me angry.

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Speaker 1: But I won't get distracted with that topic government child care. Well,

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Speaker 1: here is the noted socialist and the noted socialist and

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Speaker 1: Islamist Mom Donnie reading to little children to indoctrinate them.

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Speaker 2: What's the name of this book? Alone and together? Okay, alone,

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Speaker 2: we have secrets.

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Speaker 3: Together, we have treasures alone. We count, we count.

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Speaker 2: Together, We share. Are you guys good at sharing? Sharing

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Speaker 2: is a very good thing. There's no study that shows

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Speaker 2: pre K does anything positive. There are studies that show

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Speaker 2: it does things negative. Plus, it's government healthcare and convincing

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Speaker 2: parents to have yet another year of the government taking

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Speaker 2: care of your kid instead of you. It's just alone.

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Speaker 2: It's got nothing to do with education anyway, I'll shut up.

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Speaker 1: Alone, we get the cold, pointy shive of capitalism right

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Speaker 1: in our eye. Together, we get the warm embrace of collectivism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what have we learned today? Kids? I like this

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Speaker 2: nonsensical blast about Mumdani. He did an appearance with the Met,

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Speaker 2: the New York Met baseball mascot, and hugged the mascot

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Speaker 2: and since then they've lost eleven straight. That's just science, Jack,

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Speaker 2: that is science. I love that quickly. This Trump just

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Speaker 2: said the deadline is Wednesday evening and he will not

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Speaker 2: extend it. It sounds to me like you just extended

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Speaker 2: it by a day, saying Wednesday evening because it was

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Speaker 2: yet tomorrow. So taid. Trump always extends deadlines anyway. That's

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Speaker 2: where that is. Okay, So I'm confused by how my

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Speaker 2: kids are gonna make a living? Uh from what I'm

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Speaker 2: told all jobs are going away because of AI, but

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Speaker 2: you don't need to worry about it. Because of universal

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Speaker 2: high income, not just basic income, but high income, everybody's

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Speaker 2: gonna have plenty of money and you won't need to

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Speaker 2: worry about working, which, of course you know as a parent,

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Speaker 2: you know, I got a couple of teenagers, and that

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Speaker 2: takes a load off. Then I don't even need to

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Speaker 2: worry about their futures because it's taken care of. Boy,

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Speaker 2: if you believe that you're a certain sort of person.

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Speaker 1: And I would love to have like five great economists

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Speaker 1: answer the question, and we delved into this at one point,

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Speaker 1: maybe a month ago. What does an economy without scarcity

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Speaker 1: look like? Or there's plenty of money that you can

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Speaker 1: have as big a house as you want, provided you

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Speaker 1: can get one, you can find somebody to build it

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Speaker 1: for you, who's already getting the universal high income. So

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Speaker 1: why are they swinging a hammer exactly?

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Speaker 2: They're not a robot?

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Speaker 1: Is how would an economy with no scarcity work? Somebody

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Speaker 1: got to explain that to me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is new from what we talked about

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Speaker 2: last week. Elon Musk turned heads Friday after we got

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Speaker 2: off the air when he suggested that the federal government

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Speaker 2: paying citizens a universal high income is the best way

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Speaker 2: to combat AI related job losses. UHI Universal High income

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Speaker 2: via checks issued by the government, he said, will deal

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Speaker 2: with unemployment caused by AI. The proposal, which is still

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Speaker 2: idea that such payments would be inflationary. I don't even

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Speaker 2: want to get into the inflationary part of it, because

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Speaker 2: that gets complicated and that's its own problem. But here

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Speaker 2: is somebody I forget who it is, somebody smart explaining this,

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Speaker 2: because I've been asking lots of questions about this. Ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent of people really do not understand abundance, as

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Speaker 2: Elon describes it. The fundamental reason is that they don't

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Speaker 2: understand compound growth. Same people who would probably pick a

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Speaker 2: every day for thirty days. It's a bad choice. You

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Speaker 2: lose out on millions. I'd forgotten that. But yeah, if

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Speaker 2: you have a penny that doubles every day anyway, Oh

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Speaker 2: that's fun. I've never done that.

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Speaker 1: You very quickly get to a lot of money. Imagine

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Speaker 1: I've been day three. For instance, you got four cents,

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Speaker 1: double one penny every day for thirty days, how much

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Speaker 2: They got to ask Grock that question, serie, ain't that smart? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Series five point five million, three hundred and sixty eight

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Speaker 2: Wow. Well that is interesting. That's that's a good one

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Speaker 2: about you know, compounding and stuff. Finally came up with

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Speaker 2: something interesting. I was shit, that's great. I mean, ask

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Speaker 2: serious about it because we didn't think it can't be true.

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Speaker 2: What you're starting with? A what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: We got a hocus focus? Is this anyway?

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Speaker 2: Imagine if that doubling object was a labor producing robot

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Speaker 2: instead of a penny compounding labor. It's actually crazy if

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Speaker 2: you try to wrap your mind around it. So Elon

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Speaker 2: mentions universal high income and the midwits flip a lid.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of those midwits. The elites won't share you

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Speaker 2: don't get it. They won't need to share. They will

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Speaker 2: make everything so cheap it's effectively free. Charities will have

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Speaker 2: immense resources to distribute, Unfathomable intelligence will exist to help

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Speaker 2: optimize production and distribution, And unfathomably largelyapool will exist that

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Speaker 2: operates on solar power exclusively of robots. The public works

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Speaker 2: projects that are erected will be uh unseen levels of

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Speaker 2: breathtaking bridges and roads and blah blah blah. But there

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Speaker 2: will still not be a California bullet. Right. I think

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Speaker 2: we're incredibly blessed to be the steward of this new

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Speaker 2: age of abundance. How can you not all see this?

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Speaker 2: Says this thinker expert person. Wow, what about the Chinese? Well,

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Speaker 2: I still don't understand the who's collecting it and doling

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Speaker 2: It doesn't just like.

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Speaker 1: Raw from the sky right right, Well, bureaucrats and computers

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Speaker 1: will robot crats will do it, and computers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I am too dumb to understand this. That's certainly possible.

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Speaker 2: Tough working with a midwit, isn't it every day? Let's

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Speaker 2: just pick let's just pick housing which is not a

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Speaker 2: you still have people that have more and have less.

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Speaker 2: Right off the bat, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, unless everybody, I don't even know, every single

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Speaker 1: sentence is fraught. Unless it's decided that every human being

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Speaker 1: so that the average family ends up with a five

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Speaker 1: scarcity there and just because of space, all right, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And then what about quote unquote environmentalists. I'd be one

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Speaker 1: uh you know this semite valley with five thousand square

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Speaker 2: Wait? Stop, we're cars. Who decides what kind of car

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Speaker 2: actually am to midwi, a term I had never heard

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Speaker 2: before to fully understand this. So we're all just getting

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Speaker 2: giant checks like I'm getting I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 2: amount of money is just an unimagined amount. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's like Elon says, it's so much money, money will

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Speaker 2: cease to mean anything because it's just But who's making

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Speaker 2: the car and why? All right, I've just the car company.

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Speaker 2: What are they getting out of making a car?

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Speaker 1: I just asked Claude some of these questions air starting chat.

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Speaker 1: The network connection was lost. Yeah, now your phone's going

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Speaker 1: to shock your hand with electricity. Probably don't ask that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Try that again, I said. I'm reading about AI and

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Speaker 1: universal high income. What would an economy look like with

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Speaker 1: no scarcity? This is one of the most fascinating thought

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Speaker 1: experiments in economics and political philosophy. Here's how such an

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Speaker 1: economy might work. AI and automation handle essentially all productive work.

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Speaker 1: Human labor becomes optional rather necessary. The concept of employment dissolves.

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Speaker 1: People work only for meaning, creativity or social connection, not survival.

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Speaker 1: This is sometimes called the post scarcity or leisure society. Distribution.

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Speaker 1: Without scarcity, the core economic problem shifts from production. How

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Speaker 2: Yes, somebody, somebody has to be in charge of the distribution,

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Speaker 2: and human nature will tell you robots are gonna be

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Speaker 2: in charge of but not humans.

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Speaker 1: Completely neutral robots in AI, yes, and we will trust them.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people do talk about this, that

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly the question. I guess. The robots make it,

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Speaker 2: so nobody's has nobody has to do.

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Speaker 1: from everything else that the robots are doing. And there's

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Speaker 1: endless amounts of cars, and they give an US.

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Speaker 2: There's endless amounts of steel and aluminum and rubber and

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Speaker 1: So and chips, computer chips. The robots will make the chips. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about it. So here's a couple more

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Speaker 1: interesting aspects. I tell you what, why don't we take

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Speaker 1: pull all over ours analysis of what a post scarcity

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've blown my own mind. I can't

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Speaker 2: actually wrap my head around this. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: And I can practically guarantee you, having studied the dismal

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Speaker 1: one thousand and six unforeseen consequences lurking around the next

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Speaker 2: And then we haven't even touched on the If you

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Speaker 2: don't have to work and you've got everything handed to you,

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Speaker 2: what happens to your soul? How many people do you

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Speaker 2: know who didn't have to work, who had everything handed

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Speaker 2: to them are happy and not like dead from drug

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Speaker 2: addiction or something already. Trust Fund kids, Yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: a lot of those are just super happy and find

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Speaker 2: a lot of meaning in their life. All right, more

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Speaker 2: on this next. So we've both gotten super super high,

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Speaker 2: smoked a ton of pot, and I agree getting off

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Speaker 2: in these crazy conversations about what life is gonna look

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Speaker 2: like after AI takes over. In universal high income is

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Speaker 2: happening in America? We got this text and in the

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Speaker 2: end you have Chinese robots running down the street grabbing

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Speaker 2: you to hook Kipton machines for your vital fluids. That

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Speaker 2: probably is what would happen.

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Speaker 1: Probably, so they're not gonna have to run pretty fast

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Speaker 2: might not have a job and run to really buckle down, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you could get down pretty fast.

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Speaker 1: This person, you know, what was their situation roughly? Did

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Speaker 1: they have lots of time to devote to it or yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out how how much of

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Speaker 1: a like a blowoff, easy scam this is and how

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Speaker 1: much it's just a question of applying yourself on your

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Speaker 1: own schedule, because those are two very different things.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea how hard it is, although from

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Speaker 2: everything I read, a lot of these degrees are not

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Speaker 2: very hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, it'd be hilarious because my daughter, Actually the

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Speaker 1: reason we drove back and forth is Judy announced that

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Speaker 1: she was going to drive the two and a half hours,

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Speaker 1: issh to where de Laney's going to law school and

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Speaker 1: just have lunch with her and give her a little supporters.

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Speaker 1: She goes into finals and I canceled my golf game. Well,

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Speaker 1: I found a pinch hitter, and I can't believe I

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Speaker 1: almost didn't do this and went with her and we

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Speaker 1: had a wonderful day and gave her some.

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Speaker 2: Raw raw we believe in. You blot big hugsby. It

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Speaker 2: was wonderful. Great to see her too.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, how funny would it be a she is just

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Speaker 1: about to finish her second year of law school.

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Speaker 2: If I got my law degree before she did.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, honey, the well I almost said, the College of

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Speaker 1: Saint Martin and the Caribbean has shorted me a doctor

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Speaker 1: of jurists. But you're saying this is a legiti Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the issue is here that this article

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Speaker 2: was not about offline online No, this is about regular

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Speaker 2: colleges that offer their online stuff and because you could

465
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Speaker 2: do it at your own pace, you could just get

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Speaker 2: done really really fast. What it gets to is the

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Speaker 2: lack of rigor in you know, current degrees. It's just

468
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Speaker 2: not very much work and not very hard, and they're

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Speaker 2: dragging it out over four years so they can charge

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Speaker 2: it for eight semesters or whatever and make so much money.

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Speaker 1: But it's a resort where you occasionally go to informational lectures. Right,

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Speaker 1: So what college is now occasionally if you want to, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and everybody gets an A.

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Speaker 2: And everybody gets an A exactly right. It's they've done

475
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Speaker 2: this to themselves. They've completely blown up their whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's in the it's got to be in the dying

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Speaker 2: days of anybody having any respect for this whole system.

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be.

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Speaker 1: Unless it does some serious reforming of itself, which they're trying.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to tomorrow about Yale's Law school

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Speaker 1: and how they've realized, oh, people are us and we

482
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Speaker 1: suck and we probably ought to do something about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm meant, and it's current incarnation, it's

484
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Speaker 2: in its dying days. I hope it reforms yourself. If

485
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Speaker 2: my kids go to college and we pay. First of all,

486
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Speaker 2: the prices need to come down. Secondly, you need to

487
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Speaker 2: actually learn stuff. It needs to be challenging, and you

488
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Speaker 2: need to come out, like with knowledge about something we've

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Speaker 2: talked about that before. There are all kinds of studies

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Speaker 2: that show that people come out of college with no

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Speaker 2: more knowledge than they had going in. Right, they're just

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Speaker 2: poor and up their ear lobes intent. God, we're so

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Speaker 2: fat and soft and decadent. It's just amazing.

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Speaker 1: I know, I am yeah. I mean one of the

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Speaker 1: reforms that they al is trying to get going. This

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Speaker 1: is in until recently the number one law school in

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Speaker 1: America is they are trying to move the median grade average. Right,

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Speaker 1: your average grade, They're trying to move it from an

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Speaker 1: A to a B. What are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: No kidding? Oh my god boy. Well, certainly in the

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Speaker 2: last it started with the uh whatever they call that

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Speaker 2: scandal with finding out that kids got into what their

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Speaker 2: fake rowing credentials. That that didn't bother me at all.

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Speaker 2: Compared to the DEI and the Great.

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Speaker 1: Inflation and the and all the Mark Neil Marxist instruction, all.

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Speaker 2: That didn't bother me in the least. You combine it

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Speaker 2: all though, and you you blow up me. Me. Having

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Speaker 2: I hear you went to Harvard. Certainly if you went

509
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Speaker 2: in the two thousands means zero to me until I

510
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Speaker 2: have conversations with you and determine your level of intelligence,

511
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Speaker 2: not the least bit impressed. No, indeed, in fact makes

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Speaker 2: me less likely to think much of you. Probably it

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Speaker 2: was the other direction at this point. Boy, that's a

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Speaker 2: that's not good bang for your buck.

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Speaker 1: We're asking AI earlier, what is it economy look like?

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Speaker 1: If there's no scarcity, if there's a universal high income,

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Speaker 1: how would it change? And it's fairly mind boggling in

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Speaker 1: the AI could just kind of well.

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Speaker 2: It, nobody's really sure. Run the experiment.

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Speaker 1: Hey, AI, what is a society that's so successful and

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Speaker 1: prosperous and safe that he just completely loses this edge?

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Speaker 2: What would that look like? You know, I would get

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Speaker 2: one of those degrees, but I don't want to spend

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Speaker 2: the money just to be able to make the funny

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Speaker 2: comment that I have an Art History Masters from the

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Speaker 2: University of Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked how expensive it was to get an

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Speaker 1: online like legit university law degree. It was damn near

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Speaker 1: as expensive as going there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do it pretty fast, apparently interesting if

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Speaker 2: you work at it. Let's be realistic. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to do that. There's how much reading what I have anxiety?

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Speaker 2: So I need extra time on that I shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: to do the reading. We watch extra time. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to do the test. We will finish strong.

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Speaker 4: Next big story here in California, the front runner for

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Speaker 4: the governor was Eric Swalwell, Congress from Erics Walwell.

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Speaker 2: And he has dropped out of the race.

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Speaker 6: Five women came forward now and accused him of terrible

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Speaker 6: sexual stuff. First one woman comes forward, then it's four,

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Speaker 6: then it's five. Turns out he hit on a lot

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Speaker 6: of women, and also once in a dark cocktail lounge,

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Speaker 6: Christy nomes husband.

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Speaker 2: But that's a different Oh my, I wanted to address

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Speaker 2: this just because I've come across it quite a few

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Speaker 2: times being retweeted in that sort of thing. Basically the

547
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Speaker 2: sentiment with the war going on, we always have billions

548
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Speaker 2: of dollars for war, but pennies for food for the hungry.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Zorn Mundani actually was on Meet the

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Speaker 2: Press yes and said, I wish the words of Tupac

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Speaker 2: from the nineties weren't still prescient, but they continue to

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Speaker 2: be true for too many of us, which is that

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Speaker 2: we always have money for war and not to feed

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Speaker 2: the poor. Smart people who know the actual numbers have

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Speaker 2: been pointing out that we spend eight percent of our

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Speaker 2: budget on the military and sixty six percent of it

557
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Speaker 2: on wealth distribution, redistribution for all kinds of different things,

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Speaker 2: including lots and lots and lots and lots of food

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Speaker 2: and shelter and education and medicine and everything else. It's

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Speaker 2: not even close. We spend more money on interest to

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Speaker 2: our debt than we spend on the military. We do

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Speaker 2: spend a lot on the military, more than every other

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Speaker 2: country in the world added together starting next year, yeah,

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Speaker 2: bu and more every year on the debt worth mentioning,

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Speaker 2: but not even close to the amount of money we

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Speaker 2: spend on social services in this country. The whole billions

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Speaker 2: for the military, pennies for the Hungary is just you're

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Speaker 2: like a child, like a progressive child who's been misled

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Speaker 2: by their idiot parents.

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Speaker 1: Right. But when people state it as if it's universally

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Speaker 1: known and self evident people, and I've done this too,

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Speaker 1: people think, oh, okay, all right, I'll go ahead and

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Speaker 1: repeat that because that's powerful.

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Speaker 2: And that's amazing. Wow.

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Speaker 1: But you know, to quote the great James Lindsay, Marxists

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Speaker 1: just lie. They lie so overtly and blatantly that people

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Speaker 1: begin to question their own perceptions. It works because no

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Speaker 1: one expects another person to lie so overtly.

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Speaker 2: That is true. But I'll bet a lot of people

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Speaker 2: who say it believe it. I don't think Whatndami does.

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Speaker 2: He's too smart. Yeah, well he's an actual He's an

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Speaker 2: actual Marxist. Right, yep.

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Speaker 1: We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the

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Speaker 1: warmth of collectivism.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that was not a parody, friends, he said that.

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Speaker 4: Jack this time, stop, Joe go and if they don't

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Speaker 4: get Cairnval'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It's stunning that a guy who said that is the

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Speaker 2: mayor of New York. I know, here's your host for

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Speaker 2: final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 1: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the COO

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Speaker 1: or wrap up the show for the day. There he

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Speaker 1: is technically a technical director, michae Leislow in the control room.

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Speaker 2: Technically, Michael, go ahead, what's your final thought?

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Speaker 1: How many of these fast online degrees are using nothing

596
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Speaker 1: but AI to answer questions?

597
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Speaker 2: To write tests? Ah? Good, good one? And did they

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Speaker 2: even care? Is the question? Do they even care? Did

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Speaker 2: the check cash fine? Shut up? Stop asking?

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Speaker 1: Katie Green, a esteemed use woman, is off today Jack,

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Speaker 1: Do you have a final.

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Speaker 2: Thought for us? So, my son's taking guitar lessons and

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Speaker 2: they did this cool thing with his the lessons school

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Speaker 2: he's going to where they put every body together in

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Speaker 2: bands and they played their first performance yesterday. I would

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Speaker 2: love that. And he got to wear his cool rock

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Speaker 2: and roll outfit that he put together and got a

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Speaker 2: new haircut, new mullet, played the guitar on stage, played

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Speaker 2: a Stevie Raybaan song. It was very, very cool. It

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Speaker 2: was so much fun watching. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Way to freshen up the mullet too for showtime. You

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Speaker 1: gotta do it? Am I reading this correctly? Jelly Roll Body?

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Speaker 1: Jelly Roll the singer body slammed Pat McAfee, the software

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Speaker 1: eccentric billionaire in a WrestleMania event.

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Speaker 2: Didn't jelly Roll lose all his weight? Am I dreaming this?

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Speaker 2: Am I on LSD? What I'm strong in Getty wrapping

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Speaker 2: up another ruling four hour workday? Maybe I'm dreaming on LSD?

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Speaker 2: So many people, thanks, so little time.

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Speaker 1: Go to Armstrong getdy dot com for the hot links

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Speaker 1: for the ang swag. Drop us a note mail bag

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Speaker 1: at armstrong giddy dot com.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of what we were talking about

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Speaker 2: who knows what's gonna be going on with the war tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you then, God bless America.

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Speaker 4: I'm strong in get you.

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Speaker 1: Alone, we get the cold points, you shive of capitalism

627
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Speaker 1: right in our eyes. Together, we get the warm embrace

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Speaker 1: of collectivism.

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Speaker 2: What have we learned today?

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Speaker 1: Kids, Armstrong and Getty