1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: When Donovan Mitchell came came to me and I watched 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: him in summer basketball and I loved him. I thought 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: he was a freak athlete but couldn't shoot. So I 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: called him up and I said, I want you to 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: visit Louisville. I can, I can really help you. Watch 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: the player development session. I'm going to put you on 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: a split screen with Steph Curry. I'm gonna show you 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Steph Curry's ARC. I'm gonna show you your ARC. So 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: we did it, went through it on Sunday. He's getting 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: ready to leave with his mom. Saturday night we have 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: we have dinner. I don't know what he said, Coach, 12 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: where's the restroom? I said in the back and my 13 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: phone is blowing up in my pocket and my kids 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: are telling me that Donovan Mitchell just committed. He went 15 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: in the bathroom. He went on Twitter and committed to Loisville. 16 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: He came back and said, coach, stand up. I said, why, 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: He said, give me a hug. I'm a Louisville Cardinal. 18 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Stay for you to my vein. 19 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: All of this came up by love, got you crazy 20 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: in the stay in the city. 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: What's up everybody, and welcome to another episode of The 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: Roommate Show, presented by Bett MGM. Obviously as all the 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: ways you have young Matthew over here, we got the 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: Captain of New York here, and then we have the O. G. 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: H Rick Patina, how are you? 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 1: I'm great. 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: We appreciate you blessing our podcast with with the visit. 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: First off, you know, good good start to the season, 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: did you guys? 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? One, and we play playing Alabama on Saturday m HM. 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: And they did a number one tempo team. They shoot 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: the ball within fifteen seconds every time down the corn 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: I put it out. 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. 36 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: They're the opposite of the New York Knicks. Last year 37 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: we tried to shoot the ball in the last five seconds. 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: Percentage in the last five seconds was like abnormally high 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: for what you would think. 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: It was. It was kind of high. But it was 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: just the fact that I was in the top ten 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: in the league of shots with like four or less, 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: and it was like it was like Jalen, James, Harden, 44 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: Katie Shay, all these like scores ISO players and then 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: me like number seven. I'm just like I'm not supposed 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: to be in this list, but hey, you know, we 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: got a fast paced team this year, so things are good. 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, good start to the year. Obviously, expectations are 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: are high. How do you taper that? 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: Obviously with you know, we've got a really good team. 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: We have an older team. I've got about four or 52 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: five guys that are twenty three years of age, so 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: they're experienced, they've they've played, they've one guy's been in Kansas, 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: the other guy's been in Arizona State. Another person's been 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: in two schools at Stanford. So we've got a lot 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: of older players. Ian Jackson was at North Carolina. Got 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: a couple of young guys that are really good. But 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: we're playing a great schedule. We play Alabama on Saturday, 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: then we're going to play Kentucky and in the CBS 60 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: Classic in Atlanta. We go out to Las Vegas and 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: play at Ioways, Stay Bailing, possibly Houston. We play All 62 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: miss in the Garden as well, and then of course 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: the Big East. 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: So it's a it's a tough schedule, but that's a 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 4: crazy non conference. Yeah, that's I like it. 66 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: But we need to sell you know, for US Madison 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Square Garden, we have to get twelve thousand fans to 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: break even and after that we make money. So for years, 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: even when you guys were playing, you know, they were 70 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: drawing six seven, eight thousand people, they were hemorrhaging every 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: they were losing two hundred thousand a game. So now 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: we sold out the last six to seven games and 73 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: we're finally starting to make some good money. 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: Is that that go straight to anil stuff? 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: No, it goes It goes to the school, and our 76 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: NIL is a little different. 77 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, when you're recruiting and you're potentially 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: recruiting against guys or against schools with bigger budgets, like, 79 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: do you feel that on a day to day basis? 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: Like how does that manifest? 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Well, they're not going to have a bigger budget. The structure, Yeah, 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: there's nobody. If we want a player will get them. 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: We'll get it only maybe Kentucky probably could spend more 84 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: than anybody in the business. But outside of that, if 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: we really want a player, we'll go out and raise it. 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: I remember seeing you talk about how you're not recruiting 87 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: like incoming freshmen. I don't know about it all, but 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: you're just your it's not your priority, right. 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Can you explain that to us, well, we take freshman 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: each year, but I want older players. I want veteran players, 91 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: no different than the NBA rookies. Unless they're really really special, 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: are not going to play a lot in the beginning. 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: So we go after older players who have been through it. 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I know how to play the game, they understand to 95 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: play that type of schedule, and I don't deal financially. 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm one of the few coaches that enjoys the players 97 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: being paid. It hasn't bothered me at all. The transfer 98 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: portal doesn't bother me because I'm at Saint John's. Saint 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: John's without the NIL would struggle basketball wise because we 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: don't We don't have football, we don't have a campus 101 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: where a lot of students live on campus is not 102 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: an active social life too much. It's about Madison Square Garden, 103 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: the Big East, and we have our strengths and we 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: have our weaknesses. So the NIL for us in the 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: transfer portal is a great thing. So we have a 106 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: general manager that goes out there and speaks to agents 107 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: all year long. He'll negotiate the contract. I'll ask him 108 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: at the end, what are you thinking of paying him? 109 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: And then I'll in disbelief I can't believe that we 110 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: would pay, but I have at it, well, we'll raise it. 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm curious, because you know, you just touched on a 112 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: little bit of your view of the NIO stuff. What 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: was your initial thoughts, because you know a lot of 114 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: the great coaches are no longer doing it. I feel 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: like NIO is a part of it, obviously, what Lauren Nega, 116 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: you know retired beginning of the year or right before. 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: To see Tony Bennett, Tony Bennett, Tony Bennett, I'll see 118 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: coach rise gone or what's this a laundry list of 119 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: amazing coaches that are just. 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Well, I look at it a little bit differently. You know, 121 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I've made a lot of money. I'm a wealthy man 122 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: today at seventy three because of my players. You know, 123 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: I entered the Hall of Fame because my players put 124 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: me there. So I'm excited that they can get some wealth. 125 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: And I would say probably fifty to sixty percent of 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: my players give most of the money to the have families. 127 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: So the only thing I want from them is I 128 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: bring somebody in to tell them how to invest it, 129 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: how to make money grow, how to pay your taxes, 130 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: how to do to write things with their wealth, and 131 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. The more they make, the happier 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I am. We never discuss it. I'm not interested in 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: discussing it. I'm happy about it. If I can help 134 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: you from an investment standpoint, I'm here for you, But 135 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: outside of that, I'm happy for them. 136 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: Have you had a player like after the season, just say, hey, 137 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: you guys did well. I don't know you guys did well, 138 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, coach sike, I really appreciate you. 139 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: I love being here or whatever whatever, but I'm gonna 140 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: enter the chance to Portal. Like does it like is 141 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: it like a question rush in your head? Like we 142 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: just had a great year. We have a chance to 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: just on the special the next year, and now I 144 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: gotta recruit you all over again. 145 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: I haven't had had it happen yet. I'm sure it will. 146 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Generally speaking, If if they said to me, I'd like 147 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: to get a better contract and you'll work, I said, 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: you have it. Don't even don't even worry about that. 149 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: Now. 150 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: I had a couple of players I told to go 151 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: into Portal because they weren't playing enough and I thought 152 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: they could do better financially and playing time by leaving 153 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: one with Brady Dunlap. He wound up going to Saint Louis. 154 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: It was a much better situation for him. He wasn't 155 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: going to play a whole lot for me, so it 156 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: was it was it was a way for him to 157 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: grow basketball wise and to make more money. 158 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: Hearing like how upfront you are, I feel like it's 159 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: very rare refreshing. Yeah, it's efficient, obviously, but it's like rare. 160 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: You don't hear like, hey, at least I haven't. I 161 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: haven't seen it, Like, hey, this is I think a 162 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: situation for you could be better elsewhere, And like I 163 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: feel like you're the way you've explained it, like you're 164 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: not like being disrespectful with like you're not going to 165 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: play here, so I think you should go Like like no, 166 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: like there's gonna be another situation for you where you 167 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: can make more money. I had better experience playing elsewhere, 168 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 4: Like how did you get to that? How'd you be 169 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 4: able to do that? I feel like it's very tough, 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: especially in this day and age. 171 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: Well, my background is, you know, I was the nick 172 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: coach for an assistant for two years, head coach for 173 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: two years, Celtics for four years, Punett the Nikos in 174 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Greece for two years in the EuroLeague. So I was 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: used to dealing with one year contracts in the euro League. 176 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: That's the EuroLeague. If you get two or three, you're 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: you're in a strong minority of maybe five percent. So 178 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: everybody in the euro League is on a one one 179 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: year contract. So I was used to that in dealing 180 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: with that and with the players now it's I know 181 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: who's coming back, I know who's out there. There's only 182 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: one thing about the business I don't like. So my 183 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: general manager will come to me and say, oh, I 184 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: hear his player from Maryland's thinking I'll leaven at the 185 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: end of the year. I said they have. They've only 186 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: played one game, and it's not the player saying it, 187 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: but it's the agent saying it. The other thing I 188 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: don't like about it the agents are taking ten and 189 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the player's money ten and fifteen percent 190 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: of the nil money. 191 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 5: Which for people that don't know, is three to four 192 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: times what it would be taken in the NBA. 193 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Marketing do yes, basically, but all they're doing is going 194 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: in and saying is what we want and that's it. 195 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: They're not Then these kids aren't being they're not getting commercials, 196 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: they're not getting marketing money. So they're just negotiating the 197 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: nil contract. And my opinion is they should get no 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: more than two percent of that. 199 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll think for us, the max MBA as and 200 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: can get is four percent. That's the the max. And 201 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: then obviously you have like a marketing deal, which is 202 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: that's a different piece of pot. 203 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, you get four percent like the NBA content money. 204 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 4: The marketing is that's basically what they're doing. That's a 205 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: little more like twenty. Yeah, yeah, you can negotiate it, 206 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: but like it's I've had that twenty at one point. Yeah. 207 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: What I what I tell the kids they asked me 208 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: about it. I tell them, Okay, how much do you 209 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: want to get paid? You tell your agent if you 210 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: want five hundred thousand dollars, you get me five hundred 211 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: thousand and you could take the rest whatever's over that. 212 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: I tell them that I said, But don't don't give 213 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: them any fifteen to twenty percent. 214 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: I would say, obviously, no. JB on like how upfront 215 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: you are. There was the video last year, that one 216 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: that kind of went by you know you, I think 217 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: it was, Yeah, it was it was going going crazy, 218 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: But I feel like it's it's super dope. Obviously, you know, 219 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: I didn't play against you, obviously, you know always heard 220 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: you heard about you just being around. But your coaching 221 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: style hasn't. It seems like it's still that kind of 222 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: like tough, gritty, you know, hold guy's accountable, is it. 223 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: Do you feel like it's hard at times now to 224 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: do that just with the nil and the yeah. 225 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: So you're a halftime and you're getting on the guys 226 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: because they were hanging their heads by being down. They 227 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't take the open shots because they do have a 228 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: lot of freedom offensively, I expect them to play hard 229 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: and they all do, and I tell, why are you 230 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: getting down? And I swore too much, but we wound 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: up winning the game and it did go viral. But 232 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: I can get on my guys hard as a unit. 233 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: I can't get on you hard in practice. I can't 234 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: get home. I can't do it because they get embarrassed 235 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: too easily. But collectively, like today, in practice, I'm getting 236 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: on them about the transition defense. I said, we can't 237 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: beat Alabama playing this transition defense. And I got on 238 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: them hard, but I didn't individualize my criticism so you 239 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: can get on guys really And if I want to 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: get on somebody individually, I just call him in. We 241 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: have a long talk. And the one thing I've learned 242 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: is I listened four times that he man I speak. 243 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, tell me why why you're practicing like this, 244 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: tell me what you're thinking. Where's your head at? And 245 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: I listened to him And after about listening four times, 246 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: then I said, okay, and I'm going to tell you something. 247 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: You're not playing hard enough. You're just not playing hard enough. 248 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: You're not reaching your potential. I have a young man, 249 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: Bryce Hopkins, who could be the best player in the country, 250 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: but he takes possessions off Providence and he takes possessions 251 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: off and he could dominate the game. And I said, 252 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: if you want to reach your potential, you got to 253 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: do it all the time. When Donovan Mitchell came came 254 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: to me, and it was funny because he was down 255 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: to Villanova, Indiana and Providence and I watched him in 256 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: summer basketball and I loved him. I thought he was 257 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: a freak athlete but couldn't shoot. So I called him up. 258 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: He just narrowed his list down from six to three, 259 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: and I said, I want you to visit Louisville. I 260 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: can I can really help you. I want you to 261 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: watch every morning I do play A development sessions nine 262 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: to night forty five. I take four guys ten to 263 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: ten forty five. I take four guys in eleven to 264 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: eleven forty five and all I do is work on 265 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: offensive moves. So I said, I can really help you. 266 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Your jump shots broken And he said, well, what do 267 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: you mean my jump SHOT's broken? I said, well, you, 268 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure that Jay Wright and the coach of Indiana 269 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: and the coach of Providence told you that. He said, no, 270 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: nobody's ever told me I had a broken jump shot. 271 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: I said. He said, Coach, I'm down to three schools 272 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: and I just went from six to three. I said, 273 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: just visit. Watch the play a development session. I'm going 274 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: to put you on a split screen with Steph Curry. 275 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to show you Steph Curry's ARC. I'm gonna 276 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: show you your ARC. So we did it, went through it, 277 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: and on Sunday he's getting ready to leave with his mom. 278 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Saturday night, we have dinner at Jeff Rubies and Louisville 279 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: and he's winking at his mom, winking at his mom. 280 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: And I don't know what he said, Coach, where's the restroom? 281 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: I said, in the back goes in back in. My 282 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: phone is blowing up in my pocket, but I don't 283 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: want to take it out. Finally it won't stop. And 284 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: my kids are telling me that Donovan Mitchell just committed. 285 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: He went in the bathroom, he went on Twitter and 286 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: committed to Loivlle. He came back and said, coach, stand up. 287 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: That's why he said, give me a hug. I'm a 288 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: loi vocrdinal And it was all because he felt he 289 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: could look himself in the mirror and say his jump 290 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: shot was broken. He shot a line drive shot line drive. 291 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: But he worked his ass off And I was telling 292 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: Bryce the story of it. I said, Bryce, it's not 293 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: just me working with you in the morning. Man, you 294 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: got to live in the gym if you want to 295 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: get to where you want to go. And so one 296 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: on one you can tell him that and he'll go 297 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: out the next few days and kill him. But then 298 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: he reverts back. 299 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: Josh got Donovan drafted to you. 300 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: About to say, about to say, so you're you're You're 301 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: the reason why I didn't get drafted Utah, so I 302 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: appreciate it. He was in my draft workout and we 303 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: had Eric Pascal, who was at Nover in there. You know, 304 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: child a best friend. So like I was cool with 305 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: Donovan and you know, know him a little bit. But 306 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: that's all. I'm like, Oh, it's jump like jump shot 307 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: like trash right, I'm gonna like give him space. We're 308 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: gonna do all that. I don't think he missed a shot. Yeah, 309 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: his whole workout, it was the three on three portion, 310 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: the spot shots, movement shots. He just he did not miss. 311 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: And it was that. I think they had got drafted 312 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: fourteen or twelve. Twe twelve. He had that, and I 313 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: think they had another like late first round pick that 314 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: they would thinking about like drafting me, and yeah, he 315 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: cooked me so bad that they were just like, yeah, 316 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: we're gonna we're for sure going to get this guy. 317 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna take that this guy. 318 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to wear the draft 319 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: pick on him. 320 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: So I called him the Nicks they had the seventh pick. 321 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: I called him up and said, listen, take take my 322 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: guy Downovan Mitchell. He's going to kill it. Don't pay 323 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: attention to what to what you think some of this weekends. 324 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: So he's going to kill it. Take him? And they said, no, 325 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if we could take 326 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: him that high. Seven. They wound up taking Frank Nicolette 327 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: or Nico Nicolina. 328 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: Nicolina right, yeah, something like that, Yeah, yeah, ni kea. Yeah. 329 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Just think about that. They could have had done him 330 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: in seven. They couldn't take him, it was too hot, 331 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: but they took Frank. 332 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: That was so obviously what drafted this Thursday, I think 333 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: it is. Me and him had to work out in 334 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: New York the Knicks Wednesday morning, day before the draft, 335 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: the day before the draft, like I was, I was done. 336 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: And then I guess they like they called I guess 337 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: they called like a couple of guys agents because they 338 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: only they had the seventh pick and then that was it. 339 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: They had nothing else, and they were like, so I 340 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: guess they were telling guys like, oh, you know, they 341 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: might trade, you know, they might basically like get another pick, 342 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: you know, in the late first or whatever. So I 343 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: just remember and the funniest part about that whole thing, 344 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: I left my pall try bag. We got to the 345 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: gym we did the work out. I'm like, dah, I 346 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: got palltr bag at the hotel, so all right, cool. 347 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: So we pull up after the workout and we pulled 348 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 3: into you know whatever, like the Holiday Inn or whatever, 349 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: you know spot. We were in Terrytown, and Donovan just 350 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: turned and looked at me. He's like, is this when 351 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: you stayed up looking, I'm like, hike Comb, I'm like like, yeah, 352 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: well you say that I said at the Ritz. 353 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, I'm not getting I'm not getting 354 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 6: drafted here. But yeah, shout out to Dawn man. He uh, 355 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: you just messed up my thought process. 356 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: I was at that game where you guys played played them, 357 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: and Donovan came to practice the next day and spoke 358 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: to the guys and he didn't even attempt to shoot 359 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: the basketball in the first quarter, and he said, I 360 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: knew they were gonna come after me, and they would 361 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: come after me hard, and uh, I had I was 362 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: trying to get everybody else's shot. And uh then then 363 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter he said, we're gonna get blown out 364 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: unless I do something. 365 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was beginning of the second half. 366 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: He scored, like start cooking. Yeah that was because yeah, 367 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: that was the first game. I was sick. I didn't 368 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: play that game. I was saying, I'm like, but then 369 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: he was like he was on twenty nine for a while. 370 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: While, and we found a way. But they were they're 371 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 4: gonna be good, They're gonna be really good. And then 372 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 4: there's seriously, they. 373 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Came back last night last night. 374 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So back to the beginning of the conversation. 375 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: Do you think the holding guy's accountable aspect is Do 376 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: you think it's different because of and I or just 377 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: because of how I think I think. 378 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: I think you've got to be a teacher, and you 379 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: you've got to build character in people, regardless of what 380 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: age you are. I think they're gonna go out there 381 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: and you've got to build character in them. And what 382 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is get everybody to reach that potential, 383 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: whatever that potential may be. And I tell players all 384 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: the time in recruiting, I can't when coaches say I'll 385 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: get you to the NBA, they're feeding you nonsense. I said, 386 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: the NBA is going to pick who they want. I said, 387 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: all I can tell you is I'll get you to 388 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: reach your potential. You will reach your potential, whatever that 389 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: potential may be. If it's euro League, if it's Europe, 390 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: if it's the NBA. I've had over twenty five NBA 391 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: basketball players. I'll get you to reach your potential. It's 392 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: up to the NBA to choose you, and that's all 393 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: you can do. But I am a big believer in 394 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: working hard. Just give me one hundred percent. I'll give 395 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: you one hundred percent. Don't take plays off, and just 396 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: give it everything you have to make it. And look, 397 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: that's what you two guys are all about. You don't 398 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: take plays off. You play your asses. So if you 399 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: did in college, you're doing it now and that's why 400 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: you are where you are. But players don't always do that, 401 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, and some take I had a young man, 402 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: you guys probably remember Russ Smith, who is a two 403 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: two time All American for me, and he's still playing. 404 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: He plays overseas and he scored, you know, he scored 405 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: like sixty points the game and we're very close. I 406 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: gave him the nickname Russ Stickiells. But Rust hated practice, 407 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: hated it, and I used to tell him, I said, Russ, 408 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna come to an end unless you get 409 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: better at this game. Now, Russ did reach his potential, 410 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: but he was six foot, one hundred and sixty pounds. 411 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's only so much he could do. But 412 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: he was a great college player. 413 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: You know, was hated practice. 414 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, could you play with those you know, well, 415 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 5: you played with coach right, Yeah, but I don't know 416 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: I played for coach right, I don't know. 417 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: If I coulda play, he probably would have. Yeah, I 418 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: don't know if I could have done it. 419 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: Notorious practice heter Allegedly. 420 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: I practiced hard kind of because I had no I know. 421 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: You practiced hard because you had to. 422 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: Coach made me. 423 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: Coach made you practice hard. 424 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: Now, but do you guys, You guys don't practice, I 425 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: mean real practice. Your dad told me that even with Tibbs, 426 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: you guys didn't really get after it too much. 427 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: In Bronte, we would. We did a lot, but nothing contact. Ye, 428 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: nothing contact. So it was like just making sure like 429 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: we obviously got a lot of players and all that stuff, 430 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: technique stuff, but it was never like We're never like 431 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: throwing the ball up and playing. Yeah, especially during the season. 432 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: I think, I mean kind of to where you were 433 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: talking about. Obviously, for all these guys, the end goal 434 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: is like the NBA, like they want to make it, 435 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: they want to do that, and they see mostly the 436 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: top guys like there's certain possession, like they can take 437 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: possession off, like they're they're that good. But they got 438 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: to they growing up, they didn't take possessions off. They 439 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: had to figure out where where they could take possession off, 440 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: how they could use their body. And I think that's 441 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: one thing that obviously you're kind of attesting to, is 442 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 3: like you have to learn that and you have to 443 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 3: get to that. And then when you get to that level, 444 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: at times, you know, as you're great enough, you can 445 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: pick and choose, you know, how to take certain possessions 446 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 3: off or do that or you know, make sure you 447 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: get your body right. 448 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 4: You know. 449 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: For for guys I can it's like you're we need 450 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: you to go out there and score twenty five points, 451 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 3: like I don't. We don't need you to go crazy 452 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: and be defensive player of the year, Like that's not 453 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: your role. So but I feel like sometimes it's hard 454 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 3: for young guys to understand that because they see it. 455 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: They see the like the glitz and the glamor, but 456 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: they don't realize the progression it takes to get to. 457 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Know, like I want the young man Bryce Hopkins. I 458 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: tell them, I said, Bryce, getting six seven rebounds is 459 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: not going to do it. I said, everybody's into so 460 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: much the analytics and the statistics of how many rebounds 461 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: permitted are you going to get? I said, you got 462 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: to come down with thirteen fourteen rebounds. This is this 463 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: is it for you. And I said, the NBA scouts 464 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: they don't like older players. You know they don't. I 465 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: think last year with two seniors drafted, Walter Clayton junior 466 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: from Florida and one other player, so they're at a disadvantage. 467 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: When you're a senior in college, you better have those numbers. 468 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I want my players to get there. 469 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: If you can get twelve thirteen rebounds, you're going to 470 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: stick out, go get it. 471 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 3: That was I mean rebounding. Well, I mean I'm not sure. 472 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 3: You know, obviously you know your pre pre draft, you know, 473 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: workouts and conversations were probably totally different than mine. But 474 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: that's what I'm just trying to like the conversation role 475 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: and all, because like how they looked at me. They 476 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: look I think like my senior year, I average like 477 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: eighteen points or like nineteen points or whatever. But they 478 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: were like, m that won't really translate. But like they 479 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 3: looked at the rebounding number, They're like, that's not like 480 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: that will translate to the next level. I think probably 481 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: like nine. 482 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: Damn for your size, that's great, appreciate it, right, But yeah, 483 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: like when year difference in school too too? 484 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he left senior I left the junior one year 485 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: draft class difference? 486 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: Were you were you you unless you when you beat 487 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: Carolina or was it just you? 488 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: That was? 489 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: That was? 490 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: That was my freshman year, his junior junior year. 491 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: It was in the top part of the one hotel 492 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: in Miami with my kids. And obviously I'm a close 493 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: friend to Jason. When when when you won that game, 494 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: we went crazy. 495 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 4: That ship was crazy. 496 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: Do you think it's the greatest March Madness finished ever? 497 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: It was pretty special. It was pretty special. Yeah, it 498 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 5: really was. 499 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. Everything happened so fast, like we were 500 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 4: up ten, then we were tied. Yeah, And then I 501 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: asked coach right like when we had him on the 502 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: show when we went back to Nova, I was like, 503 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: do you remember what you said like in the in 504 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: the huddle. He's like, no, not at all. So yeah, 505 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: me neither like it was. It was a complete blackout moment, 506 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 4: but somehow, some way we were I just remember being focused. 507 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: We were all like, damn, we just flew a temper only, 508 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: but we were like, we'll figure something out. 509 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: Never forget those moments March madness. You know, I've lost 510 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: in the first round. I've been to seven final fours 511 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: and people always say you have a team to go to. 512 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: I said, you just don't know. You just don't know. 513 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: You get the wrong matchup. You the worst game we 514 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: played in ninety six, we had a team that I 515 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: really thought my second unit of Ron Mercer and Derek 516 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: Anderson and those could have won the national championship. We 517 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: had eight NBA players. A thirteenth man was Nazi Muhammed, 518 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: who played eighteen years in the league. So we had 519 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: a great team. But we played Syracuse in the final 520 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: game with John Wallace and the two three zone really 521 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: stimied what we were trying to do. We wound up 522 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: winning by nine, but it was the worst game of 523 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: the season. So you can get the wrong matchup in 524 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament and you're out. 525 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 526 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: I haven't replayed see about to say that's what Wisconsin. 527 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 4: Wisconsin, it would be lost. But there were eight seeds 528 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 4: or not eight seeds, but they were second the big ten. Yeah, 529 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: but there are eight seeds. So it was just like 530 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 4: it was. 531 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: And they had a different style of play too. 532 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they had Nata Hayes and Bronson Kig Coen Kania. 533 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah. Yeah, they had a tall they 534 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: had got a tall white guy. 535 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: They definitely cooked us. Yeah, definitely. 536 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk too much 537 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: about that. 538 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: So you were all four years with Jay. 539 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: Barely made it, but I did. 540 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: When you when you were talking about like they kind 541 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: of believed a part of how you like you. You 542 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: went like at your team collectively. I feel like Coach 543 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: White went out as collectively, but he definitely went on 544 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: as individually. 545 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: He he was and obviously it was obviously a little 546 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: bit different time, but yeah, he would. Obviously his biggest 547 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: thing is, Okay, I want to make sure practice is 548 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: so like it's so much harder than the game that 549 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 3: you know, the game is easy. So he he for 550 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: sure would go at us, especially if he saw we 551 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: were like on that fence of like snapping, he would 552 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: He's like, okay, like I'm I'm gonna push I'm gonna 553 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: push your limits. He definitely, and I would give him 554 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: his credit. He always gave everybody one time to snap. 555 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: He didn't get more than one. He take the coach, 556 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: you probably you probably used your one time. 557 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 4: I never snapped, but you definitely snapped more than one. 558 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, snap at him. You couldn't. You can only 559 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: snap at him one time, Like you could snap at him, 560 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: curse him out, do whatever. I'm just saying, like I 561 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: don't know if i'd use my one time. I mean 562 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: I probably more so snapped on y'all, but I didn't 563 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: really snap at him. 564 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: He would. He would one time albumim in the face, 565 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 4: just like kind of like creating space. And like I 566 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: definitely said this on the show before, but like if 567 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: I passed the ball and like being Joshua some middle 568 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 4: of the court and it felt like everything around was 569 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 4: going in slow motion, I just feel Josh like beaming 570 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: at me somehow. Shit. So I cut to the basket 571 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: and I catched the ball, and I just knew that 572 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 4: josh was about to like fuck me up. He like 573 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: pushes me into like the sliding like the door right 574 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 4: the ball drops, he gets to he throws the ball 575 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: at me and he just like just walks away like 576 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 4: nothing happened. I'm just like, like. 577 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: Are you good? 578 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: So he made us not a stand at that coach, 579 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: But I mean you broke Darryl Sternam or his chest, 580 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: you broke you beat him Michale every day before I 581 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 4: got there, I dontestly beat up you and Dante fought 582 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 4: in the weight room everything. He was a common denominator 583 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: and everything. So his like you snapped like more than 584 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: ten times. 585 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I'm sure you've had guys. I was 586 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: like this right, like that that was like because obviously 587 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: you a coach rider very similar terms of coaching style, 588 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: and you know how you guys are as men and 589 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: like teaching us obviously as young men. But I sought 590 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: I know you've had guys that were like that, Like 591 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: they were, you know, a little rough around edges, but 592 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: like by Yeah. 593 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: I had Ellis Miles from Compton. I was worried every 594 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: single day with him, every single day. 595 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: Josh from Silver Spring, Maryland. 596 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: A little differently, yeah, Josh, well, friends, Well. 597 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: The Obama's talking about comparing him to Compton. No, No, 598 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: you were just a troubled human being. 599 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: Still, are are. 600 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 5: There any similarities between the next teams that you were 601 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 5: a part of and this current team. 602 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, we were. We would notice the Bombinos. We would 603 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: averageing one hundred and seventeen point eight points per game. 604 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: We were pressing a lot, so these guys don't press 605 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: like that. But offensive we shot a lot of threes. 606 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: This you guys are a better better offensive team than us. 607 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: But we had Patrick and we were a very good 608 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: defensive team. And but the game was different back then. 609 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's playing five out right. Now you have 610 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Town's coming in off the bounce and shooting threes. 611 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: We you know, Patrick and Oak never shot a three, 612 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: so it's a lot different. But I think, I think, 613 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: I really think you guys have the potential to do 614 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: great things this year. This is, in my opinion, a 615 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: much better team than last year. Nothing to do with 616 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: coaching or anything. I just think you were a much 617 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: better basketball team. I think you have all the answers. 618 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: If the big guy can stay healthy, yeah, I think 619 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: another year under our belt will help. 620 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: I think that chemistry was is there. That's not a 621 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: problem for us, Like chemiscry is not not a problem 622 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: for us. I just think that, uh it's a long ear, 623 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 4: so like you can't you can't look too far ahead. Yeah, 624 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: no question for everyone's like, oh, this is our year, 625 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: this is our year. Like we keep hearing that and like, 626 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: well we gotta get through the year, yep, right, And 627 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: so just making sure when I listen to the outside 628 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: noise positive negative. 629 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: And you have one thing that's as you know, because 630 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: you guys go to every arena, but the home court 631 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: advantage at Madison Square Garden is not like a normal 632 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: professional environment. These people are living. I'm sitting at courtside 633 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: and I'm watching these people and every single professional play, 634 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: they're on the edge of the seat going crazy. And 635 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, you don't you see that some college games, 636 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: but you don't see that too often in the pros 637 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: now Is Oklahoma. Do you like that? 638 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: Okay, sees atmosphere our officer is really good. Like when 639 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: we get like the beginning of the game, it may 640 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: not be as loud, but the fourth quarter of the 641 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 4: garden close game, it's loud. 642 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's loud. 643 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 4: Okay. See from the moment the jump ball is tossed, 644 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: it's loud. 645 00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 646 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: Okay, See like that. 647 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: I would say there's Portland when when Portland's good, Portland, Indiana, Indiana, Boston. Ah, yeah, but. 648 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: Okay, this this last last year was different because usually 649 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 4: as Boston would be like Boston's a great crowd for them, 650 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: But we just came from Detroit and Detroit yeh when 651 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 4: I say it was deafening, like deafening. So we went 652 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 4: to Boston like it wasn't as loud as Detroit, Like 653 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: Detroit was loud as hell. 654 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: Like that might have been the loudest that might NBA 655 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: Arena ever. 656 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was loud every single game we played there. 657 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: There was one point it was probably like fourth quarter. 658 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if there was channing f you or 659 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: he's a flopper or whatever. 660 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: It was. 661 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: Well, I I swore like my chest was shaking. I 662 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: was like, and he was going to the free throw line. 663 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, he made I'll give him credit because he 664 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: made both Compson and I'm like, a, no, he's gonna 665 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: miss one. And because I'm saying it like it was, 666 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: I think it was like their first time going to 667 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: the playoffs in like ten years, the fifteen years something 668 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: a long time, and they I'll get them credit. They 669 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: showed out. 670 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: Detroit loud, but usually Boston, yes, usually Boston, yes, But 671 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 4: Detroit Troy was loud. 672 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 5: What do you think they're a loud as college arenas 673 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 5: that that you've coached. 674 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: Kansas is is tough. Rupp aerena is tough. In the 675 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: Big East, Big East, you go to Marquette, it's you know, 676 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: they sell out with a Bucks play, they sell out 677 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: that arena. They're pretty loud. Connecticut fans are crazy. D 678 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: Kentucky of the East. I mean they travel. We played 679 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: them in the Garden and they bring eight nine thousand people. 680 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: Well, me have played there. It was Creighton was always 681 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: loud as hell. Cranon Love Creating was really loud. Butler 682 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: always had trouble. But just Hinklefield houses nuts. 683 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but did you win the Big East? Both years? 684 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 4: We I won the Big We won the Big East. 685 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: My freshman year regular season, lost in in the tournament. Yeah, 686 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 4: sophomore run regular season, won the tournament, lost regular season, 687 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: says David junior won the tournament. 688 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking like the big I'm like hearing them 689 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 3: names and stuff, and I'm just like my first year, 690 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: my rookie rest freshman year was a year like the 691 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: New Big East. I'm like, it's a good conference. But 692 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: when I committed, it was like it was the Big East. 693 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: It was all like the Syracuse the Connecticut hit and 694 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: then y'all know how sick. I was like, got committed 695 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: on hyped three months. 696 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: Later, dismantled. Big East is dismantled. 697 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm like, dog, I don't get to play 698 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 3: against not any and no, obviously that's no. 699 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: What year is that? 700 00:34:53,440 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: So I committed twelve and got there. Yeah, it's the 701 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen with my freshman year. That was like the 702 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 3: first year of like. 703 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: The Louisville was in the Big East. No, we went 704 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: went to the Yep, Yeah, I was. 705 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: I was sick. Oh boy what I was. I'm just like, 706 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: all right, especially you know when you go to Nova 707 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: and you're you know, I wasn't that hoty prove it. 708 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: So I didn't have that many biggest Yeah, I wasn't 709 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: like you you know what I mean. So you know, 710 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: you go to Wells Fargo obviously they always had the 711 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: big games of Wells Fargo something. I'm like, I'm hype. 712 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: I went to the one where they like upset Syracuse. 713 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 3: I hit the game winner. I think they had a 714 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 3: game that with a pit they played. I went to 715 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there watching. I'm like, I can't wait 716 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 3: to play this. I can't wait for this, and then 717 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: it's it's it got totally different. Damn football money, bro, 718 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 3: But how was your thoughts of that? What was that 719 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: process like of like that that change of that. So 720 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 3: it was like Catholic seven. 721 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I really enjoyed it. We went back 722 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: to back Big East championships in twelve and thirteen, and 723 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: it was great with the teams that were in it. 724 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: I was really disappointed when everybody left for football, and 725 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: I was happy that Connecticut came back into it. I 726 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: would like to I'm a big proponent of combining the 727 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: Big East with the ACC. Coach Skryzhewsky recommended that I 728 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: think it would be great to have a super Conference 729 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: for basketball, because you know, back when I first started coaching, 730 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: the NBA and the NFL were like this, college football, 731 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: college basketball were like this. Today, an NBA playoff game, 732 00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio playing playing a mid major in football 733 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: out draws in NBA game on TV. Football has taken 734 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: over television, and it's all because of gambling, you know, 735 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: it's all gambling one you know, one game a week, 736 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: and every if you turn on ESPN, they're talking about 737 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: football from when you get up in the morning to 738 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: first take to that McAfee show. That's all they're talking 739 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: about is football. They're not once in a while, they'll 740 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: talk about the NBA once in a while though, they'll 741 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: bring the Baseball World Series up, but they're talking football NonStop. 742 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: And every member of their staff is football. So football 743 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: is dominating. And so I would love to see us 744 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: combined with the ACC and have this super conference to 745 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: build up the statue of college basketball. 746 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 3: Again, it's a cool idea. That'd be really dope. 747 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: Would it be called the a scy of the Big East? 748 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's all revenue driven. 749 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 4: Probably, and then what have the conference room's still at MSG. 750 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: I think they would want that, Yeah, gotta be. 751 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so that's a So what's that gonna be. 752 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: That's gonna be like what twenty five, twenty six? 753 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: So we so it would be eleven probably twenty two 754 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: teams and you'd split it up and then you play 755 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: different teams every other year. Yeah, but it would be 756 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: it would just the television package would be amazing. 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You can get sixty percent 833 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 5: off any new system. That's their biggest deal of the year. 834 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 5: Sixty percent off. It's like Josh's free throw percentage. 835 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, Well, anyway, go to simply Safe dot com slashroommates. 836 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 4: That's simply safe dot com slashroom mats to get real 837 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 4: security for your home while a deal is still up. 838 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 4: Josh May's sound funny. Well, what was your recruiting pitch 839 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 4: to Rick Brunson? 840 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't remember that far back, you know, many 841 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: years ago. That was Tell me what it was? 842 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 4: So he went, he was ninety one All American Game? 843 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 4: So probably was he ninety one American game? 844 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: Was it Salem High School? 845 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 4: Sale? Wow? 846 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: I can't believe I remember that Salem High School. Tell 847 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: me what it was. 848 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: I think it was. No, I don't remember anything. I 849 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 4: just remember he I you know, I wanted he wanted 850 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 4: to go there. Yes, I know you want to go there. 851 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: Obviously I knew him as a really young player from 852 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: basketball camps, as a really young player, and so. 853 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 4: I know I miss I missed that basketball camp culture, 854 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: like I missed that. But we'll continue, continue, continue. 855 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: So he you know, he yeah, that was really a 856 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: good player and he was tough, odd nosed. He went 857 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: to Temple right yea, yep, he probably chose to write school. 858 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 4: You know. 859 00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: Temple was probably a good school for him, you know, 860 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: but he eat he could play the game. He could. 861 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to get up at 862 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: four or five in the morning. 863 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 4: And practice, I'm good. No, they that was every morning 864 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 4: for them. Nah, I don't know, got up every morning 865 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 4: at five o'clock. 866 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, in practice the hell though, maybe maybe like once 867 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 7: or twice a week or something. 868 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: And think about how cold every morning you're up at four, 869 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: how cold it is? 870 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Philly, bro I will never forget. That's 871 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 3: why I knew like Philly weather. Obviously New York weather 872 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 3: is different, but Philly weather is different. In DC, one 873 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 3: time I stepped outside of one of them six am 874 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 3: practices and know what, you had to get there forty 875 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 3: five minutes before. So I stepped outside at like five 876 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 3: am and a gust of cold wind hit me, and 877 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: I like lost my breath for a second, and it 878 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 3: took me like a I was like, bro, I wouldn't 879 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 3: at that point all day, Bro, I can't do this 880 00:43:59,239 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 3: no more. 881 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 4: I had to. So I lived like zero point a 882 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 4: half mile from high school. So like on non game days, 883 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 4: apparents made me walk. I had to walk backwards. You 884 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: had to walk because I was in school in the 885 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 4: wind in Chicago, I literally had to walk backwards so 886 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 4: that wind was piercing. So and yes, so walking to 887 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: the practice in the morning, you have those big puffers 888 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 4: and the still weren't still wouldn't help. That was that 889 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 4: was ass that Chicago's cold. 890 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shocked that how they're playing the bullet Yeah. 891 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 4: Who playing really well? They're playing really well. 892 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: They can pass and shoot, yeah, and like. 893 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 4: You can just you can tell that they're all in. 894 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 4: I mean as of right now, like the way they're playing, 895 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 4: they're just they're all in. They're all playing well, they're 896 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 4: all feeding off each other. 897 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: And where's the big hy from I know he's a 898 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: farm player, but where is he Montenegro? 899 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 4: Most of it Montenegro. Yeah, Buzzelles took a leap to 900 00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 4: this off season. 901 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 3: I like this game. 902 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 4: He's from he went to high school outside Chicago too. Well, 903 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 4: he's from outside Chicago. 904 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 3: Are the European good? 905 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 4: Who zealous? 906 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 5: I think he's like, I think it's European des He's 907 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 5: from high school in America, Hensdale in Aperville. 908 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 3: Wait really, yes, I thought he came over. 909 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 4: They said from Chicago. I'm like, it's from Hensdale. 910 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: And the young man from Minnesota's really gotten a lot better? 911 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: Is a trey? I played a duke. I think Jones 912 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: he's gotten a lot better. 913 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they got Yeah, they got 914 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 3: a good team, like you can tell her all like 915 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 3: they they moved the ball, they shared of all day 916 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: and it's and it's when you do that. And obviously 917 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 3: I think they're like five to one right now or 918 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 3: six to one whatever. When you start, when you see 919 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 3: the success the success of you know, as a team 920 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: and individually, when you're playing that way, it makes you 921 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: want to buy in, like even more so, Okay, this 922 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 3: is whatever we're doing is like is right? And it's 923 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: like then you don't have as much like pushback, like 924 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 3: individual agendas, because you see you're like you're eaving the 925 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 3: benefits of just what it looks like just buying in. 926 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: You know, I had Recall out on my team with 927 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: the Knicks. Is the end of his career? 928 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 4: Oh rc man r C. 929 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 3: That's the guy. 930 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 4: He jumps out of my career one hundred percent like 931 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 4: I he was at Dallas. He's definitely a goofy guy. 932 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 4: He's just goofy. But one thing that he knows about 933 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 4: he knows excess, Like he's really good with this stuff 934 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 4: and like no matter what, Like there are times where 935 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 4: obviously I got d m pas where I played, but 936 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 4: when I was out there, he was just like, go 937 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 4: be aggressive, could just do you. 938 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: And it's got a great mind. He tells a story 939 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: about me when I was with the Knicks and uh 940 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: we were in bed foul trouble with playing the Phoenix 941 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: Suns and he gets up and tells people this. Everybody 942 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: embellishes their stories. And I put him in the game 943 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: and I said, Rick, I'm going to tell you right now, 944 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: don't let the guys go by you like the last game. 945 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: Just keep him in front. Don't let him go by you. 946 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: Guys goes by him, all right, Rick, don't let it 947 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: happ Don't let him go by you again. Time out. 948 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: Let him go by I'm telling you tomorrow you're going 949 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: on a peta Pan bus back home. I'm not even 950 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: going to pay for your flight. Don't let this get 951 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: He tells everybody story, and I kept him in the game. 952 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: I had Kiki Vandaway at the end of his career. 953 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 1: I had Rick Carlile. But Rick, he could really play. 954 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: He could really play. He was really, really intelligent. It 955 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: does not shock me that he's a great coach today 956 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: because he really understood how to play. He could shoot 957 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: and pass with anyone. But defense was and he had 958 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: great size. You know, he has good size for a 959 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: backcourt play yep. And but he defensively, he was at 960 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: the end of his career. And Rick, just don't let 961 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: him go by you. It's all. Just keep him in 962 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: front of you. 963 00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 3: One question for you. 964 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 5: So we had joking know on the pod, and he 965 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 5: talked about how unsurprised he was that Billy Donovan has 966 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 5: had such a successful NBA career. I'm curious from your 967 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 5: perspective of someone who's coached at the pro level as 968 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 5: well as college. Why you don't really see some like 969 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 5: a lot of amazing college coaches make the leap, and 970 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 5: what the biggest difference is between. 971 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: I had a little advantage because I worked for you, 972 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 1: b Brown as an assistant. I don't ever recommend any 973 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: college coach to go to the NBA unless they're an assistant, 974 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: because it's it's a totally different brand of coaching. Totally 975 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: different brand. You know, you have to manage people, you 976 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: have to keep the player's legs fresh, and you have 977 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: to strategize about the game. 978 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can't talk maybe talk to a thirty 979 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 5: five year old the same way you talk to a twenty. 980 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: Well so much that it's a coaching in practice, you know, 981 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: you can't. Everything with us is practice. In the pros, 982 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: it's not practice, And you've got to get that mindset. 983 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: Like John Beeline going through the it's not going to 984 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: be that way with Billy. What I'm shocked about is 985 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: how much he I never thought he would like the 986 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: pros as much as he does because he has that 987 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: he looks like a college coach, you know, he goes 988 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,760 Speaker 1: about it, but he loves the NBA, loves the NBA. 989 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: Didn't want to go back to college at all. I 990 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: called him about the Indiana job, at the Kentucky job. 991 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: He could have had them all and no, he is 992 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: so he loves the NBA, gets along with his play 993 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: is great. He he had Maury's cheeks with him for 994 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: a long time and Maurice helped him a lot. 995 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 4: So you know, he. 996 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: He's adjusted really, really well. But some of the other 997 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: guys don't adjust to it. They they need to be 998 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: an assistant first and find out what it's all about. 999 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: And dealing with the NBA athlete. Yeah, are easy to 1000 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: deal with. 1001 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 3: All the guys, Uh, well, pretty easy. 1002 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I gu we have no like actual assholes. Yeah, 1003 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 4: he's an asshole, but not really like we have a 1004 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 4: bunch of good dudes. I mean we have moments so 1005 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 4: that guys like teams do you have moments, but we 1006 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 4: have no like troublemakers. 1007 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:19,479 Speaker 1: One. 1008 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 4: But he's he's he's right. You can you can handle him. 1009 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean because eighty two games and playoffs, it's a 1010 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: long year with guys. 1011 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 3: It's a lot. 1012 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 4: I mean, you're seeing each other every day, Yeah, and 1013 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 4: it's just not going well. You're knowing to each other. 1014 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, on the road, you go out with each other sometimes. 1015 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it just all it just all depends 1016 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 3: and it's like we're not like when I got in 1017 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 3: When I first got into the league, I feel like 1018 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: it was how's that guys started like like a lot 1019 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 3: of like the older guys were kind of like, you know, 1020 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 3: it was like that the generation was it was changing. 1021 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 3: Know now like everyone like we just kind of like 1022 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 3: hang out a little bit. A lot of dudes have 1023 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,919 Speaker 3: like these things called pogas, which is like you put 1024 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 3: your your PlayStation or whatever, your little gaming council. Then 1025 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 3: you bring that on the plane, you go to your room, 1026 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 3: you're playing video games. I feel like like in the bubble, 1027 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 3: in the bubble, it was there was a couple like 1028 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 3: JJ Mellow, some of like the older guys Caller Quinn, 1029 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 3: like they would go hang out and drink wine and 1030 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 3: then like everyone else was just like in the room 1031 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 3: playing video games. So like now, like the generations, it's different. 1032 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 3: You might go out to dinner or something like this 1033 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 3: kind of hang out, but a lot of time people 1034 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 3: just kind of do their own things. 1035 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 4: I haven't felt the it's to like really go out though, yeah, 1036 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 4: get tired. I stopped playing because we had a couple 1037 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 4: a couple of dudes cheating, so I was I'm not playing. 1038 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 3: They're playing boo and you know how boo worg gets, 1039 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 3: so people lose a lot of money. I'll stay away 1040 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 3: from I'll just be chilling on the plane. 1041 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 4: Josh has. First of all, I don't know what people 1042 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 4: who like legit download movies and shows like on the iPad, 1043 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 4: like you have like whatever you use it, Netflix, Hulu, Hbo, 1044 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 4: like you download shows on that. Josh will literally go 1045 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 4: on like like iTunes, like buy movies and have them downloaded. 1046 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 4: And so he has a full like catalog of like movies, 1047 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 4: like maybe one hundred movies. And this mame who hot 1048 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 4: from movie to movie right and just watch like a 1049 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 4: clip of one movie. I'm done and go to another 1050 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 4: movie and watch like a clip. I'm literally sitting there 1051 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 4: watching it. I see him fast forwarding it like I 1052 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 4: want too too far, and then go back a little 1053 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 4: bit watch it and then switch them like and then 1054 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 4: two seconds later the dude is catching flies out cold. 1055 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 3: Like my thing is I feel like I said this before. 1056 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 3: If we're like saying it might be sleep or something 1057 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: or It's like we have a short flight and then 1058 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 3: next thing, you know, we got like thirty minutes left, 1059 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 3: and I'm bored. I'm like, Okay, what am I gonna 1060 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 3: like thirty minutes forty five minutes. I can't watch a 1061 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 3: full movie, So I'm gonna watch the best scenes from 1062 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 3: the movie. 1063 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 4: He was watching Rush Hour one or two or three, 1064 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 4: all within a twenty minute span. Yeah. 1065 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: Now in the middle. It'll be in the middle. 1066 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 4: Of the movie, like like an hour in with like 1067 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 4: two hours left, like. 1068 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, then I'll be done. I'd be like I was like, man, 1069 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 3: that's a great scene. Exit out, and then I'll go 1070 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 3: to the next one. I'll go to like Hayfril eight. 1071 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 3: I'll watch like one scene. 1072 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, dang, Josh watched watch the Equalizer scene, probably 1073 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,240 Speaker 4: three flights in a row, like last year. 1074 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 3: Bar scene. Yes, great scene comes. Just like if I 1075 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 3: want to watch like some type of action scene or 1076 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 3: action movie, I can't watch the whole thing. I'm just 1077 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 3: watch double clue. 1078 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 1: This is the Denzel scene. 1079 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. 1080 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: See great one. 1081 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1082 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 3: Now, we got some fan questions. You know, whenever we 1083 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 3: have a guest always kind of tweet out that we 1084 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 3: have have you guys on and then there's you some 1085 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 3: questions always so we have optimistic Nick favorite Italian restaurant 1086 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 3: in Lexington. 1087 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's been so long since I've been in Lexington, Kentucky. 1088 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: I only know Jeff Ruby's. 1089 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 4: I don't. 1090 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know if they have an 1091 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: Italian restaurant in Lexington. There's nothing. I think I was 1092 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,720 Speaker 1: the only Italian. 1093 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 5: North Side ne Bille. Favorite moment of your coaching career. 1094 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: Favorite moment I would I would say every single day. 1095 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: I just loved coaching. Love. I can't say it's a 1096 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 1: special game, a special moment because every year there's always 1097 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: special moments, there's always down moments. But because my window 1098 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: is closing in. You know, I'm seventy three, I'm not 1099 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna go forever, and I just take every single day 1100 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: as if it's special. It's a blessing to me. 1101 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 4: Thomas Usaka, Rick, would you ever consider coaching in the 1102 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 4: NBA again? After all these ideals became a factor and 1103 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 4: then next question, do you see Josh or me becoming 1104 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 4: a head coach at any level? 1105 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: So I I couldn't coach in the pros again. I 1106 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: couldn't coach one hundred games again. I don't think I'm 1107 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 1: physically able to do that. I would like to coach 1108 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: back in the euro League again because I love to travel. 1109 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 1: You know, I've been to Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Berlin. I 1110 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,240 Speaker 1: love to travel. I think you guys can just about 1111 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do coaching wise. You know, 1112 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: there's certain guys that I said would never be my 1113 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 1: My graduate assistant from New Jersey called me up and said, look, 1114 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: I want to come to Kentucky and be a GA. 1115 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: I want to learn the style of play. I want 1116 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: to be a coach, I said, Frank, listen man, go 1117 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: to Rutgies, go to Villanova, go to Saint Joe's. Be 1118 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: a GA there. I met him at the five Star camp. 1119 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: He decided to no, I want to come. He played 1120 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: on a JV team with me. I started a JV team. 1121 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: Then he became a manager, a video guy. And it's 1122 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel. 1123 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 4: Wow. 1124 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: So you know it's it's you be surprised today. You know, 1125 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: it's it's from Rick call out to Billy Donovan, to 1126 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel. Guys that I've been with, uh I drafted 1127 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: Chauncey Phillips and uh, he became a head coach. And 1128 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: you never know, you say, some people know they're not 1129 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: going to go into coaching, and they do because they 1130 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: still have a love for the game and it beats 1131 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: it beats what they're doing at the time. So I 1132 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: think both of you guys would be terrific coaches because 1133 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: you know the game and you're unselfish. You play to win, 1134 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: and that's that's most of the keys about coaching. You've 1135 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: got to you gotta put winning above everything else, and 1136 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: you do whatever you can to win, even if it's 1137 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: you know, I remember right all back, I'll leave just 1138 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: the red Aback said to me, you know, I'm watching 1139 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: those time outs, your pens going one hundred miles an hour, 1140 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: and why don't you do what I did? Have them 1141 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 1: all stand up in a huddle and say to them, 1142 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: what do you think, guys? What should I run? I said, 1143 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: that's what you did. I'd say to Russell, what do 1144 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: you think, Russ? What should we run? I say to Kuzi, 1145 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: what do you think we should run? Habletchek, what do 1146 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: you think we should run? And they would, they would, 1147 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: they would give it, give it to me, let cuz 1148 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: take it. Let's just I said, Okay, I'm gonna try it. 1149 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: So we're playing the Lakers at home in Boston. I 1150 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,959 Speaker 1: got Antoine Walker, Walter mccaudy, Ron Mercy, who like coached 1151 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: in college, in the starting lineup, and we're with down 1152 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: one call time out. I said, guys, what do you 1153 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: think we should run? What do you think? Mercy dead silence? 1154 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: What do you think? Walter? Dead? Silence? Antoine? And I 1155 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: told this story to Red Awe back that night, and 1156 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: he almost choked with laughter. I said, Twin, what do 1157 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: you think he says the F word? How to F do? 1158 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: I know you're to coach. That's what you get paid 1159 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: to do. We get paid to play, You get paid 1160 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: the coach. So I told read that story. He said, 1161 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: stand them up next time. They won't shut up? And 1162 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: uh do they in huddles? Will the coach ask you 1163 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: guys what you think? 1164 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1165 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's important. I do it now 1166 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: with zubi our captain, I said, what do you think 1167 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: zub And he'll speak invariably in every time out, Zubie 1168 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: will say something and man, we got we got three 1169 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: minutes to go, and we got put this thing away, 1170 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: and he'll say something in every time out. 1171 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 5: Now, the holidays are coming up, and thanks to Macy's, 1172 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 5: there's a gift for everyone before we let you go. 1173 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 5: So the holidays are obviously coming up. What does the 1174 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 5: holiday season look like in the Patino household? Any traditions. 1175 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we always get together at Christmas time in Miami. 1176 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: Richard he's the head coach of Xavier, my middle son, 1177 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: and we all meet in Miami. And I used to 1178 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: live in a little island called Indian Creek, and now 1179 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: I live right off the island. Then we all get 1180 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: together and we spend Christmas Eve together, Christmas together, and 1181 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: then we all fly back to where we have to go. 1182 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: So I have sixteen going to be sixteen grandchildren, so 1183 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: eight boys, eight girls, and we have a very close family. 1184 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: They come to all the games. They'll be at the 1185 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: game Saturday. Richard's playing right now. So it's it's it's 1186 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: a cool situation. 1187 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 4: That's amazing. 1188 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 3: Ye, great, Any great golf course. I haven't played yet, 1189 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 3: but I heard it's you'd like it. 1190 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: It's it's not overly difficult, but the scenery is surrounded 1191 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: by water and nice. Anytime you want to play be 1192 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: my guess. 1193 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 5: I would love it, Jalen, Josh, anything different for you guys, 1194 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 5: But now that your babies are getting. 1195 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 3: Older, honestly, the only thing, the only thing that's different 1196 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 3: now is. 1197 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 4: We have to limit. 1198 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if you had this problem, but you 1199 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 3: have to limit the amount of gifts that you bring. Like, 1200 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 3: don't bring the kids gifts. Everyone gets one gift that 1201 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 3: they get to give the twins and that's it because 1202 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 3: there's too many gifts. 1203 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 4: I need to adopt that it is. 1204 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: It is good to do that. Yeah, I wish. 1205 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 4: It's also like not even the like not even the 1206 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 4: gift stuff, Like there's stuff that like randomly just like 1207 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 4: you know, just like shows up at your house like 1208 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 4: oh hey, Jalen, like we're sending this. So I'm like, se, yeah, 1209 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 4: you're just like very very appreciately. If I don't use I 1210 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 4: give it away, like I give it away. But it's 1211 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 4: it's a lot. It's a lot. 1212 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: I gave my older ones a gold coin last year, 1213 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: and I said, keep this is gonna be it's valuable now, 1214 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: but it's going to become more valuable. Hold on to it. 1215 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,479 Speaker 1: It's a gold coin, So that goes by I said, 1216 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: hold on to it, and he said, oh no, we 1217 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 1: catched it. 1218 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 4: He said, we're good. Gold's hitting all time highs. 1219 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Well, obviously it's the holiday season, so we have a 1220 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 3: gift from you from Tommy John. 1221 01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 1222 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 3: So, no, for sure, we appreciate you coming on the podcast. 1223 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 3: Good luck this season. Okay, you know a huge expectations, 1224 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 3: but you know we're looking for New York is always 1225 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 3: always on fire and always better win when basketball is good. 1226 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 3: So appreciate you coming on. Good luck great. 1227 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: Same to you guys. 1228 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, fellas is that time again, gift season 1229 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 4: every years? 1230 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 3: Where I'm getting ready. Then I realized half my list 1231 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 3: is impossible to shot for, like Jalen playing deep, Jalen 1232 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 3: playing D g Lobal impossible playing D sounds crazy. 1233 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 4: What do you even get your cousin who already owns everything? 1234 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 4: Another candle? Gotta be hitting Macy's. They've got all the 1235 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 4: top gifts and free personal stylists to do all the 1236 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 4: hard work for you. 1237 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 3: Wait stylist for gifts, yep. 1238 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 5: Like if your nephews need an ATV four wheeler to 1239 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 5: whip around, Macy's Stylists for Gifts will hook you up. 1240 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 5: With something perfect. Boom, favorite Uncle, I know what I'm 1241 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 5: getting your kids now. 1242 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 3: They look really cute just whipping around. Macy's really said, 1243 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 3: we got you, bro. 1244 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 4: Or if you need a gift for your dad who 1245 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 4: has everything, the stylist finds something they don't. 1246 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 3: I love to see the stylists find a gift for Rick. 1247 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 3: But trying to put the Macy's stylist to the test now. 1248 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 4: So basically, Macy's is like your assists leader sets you 1249 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 4: up for the perfect gift every time. 1250 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 5: And with their Black Friday sale happening now, you're saving 1251 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 5: money and getting all that help for free. You'll even 1252 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 5: get twenty percent off your purchase from your first session 1253 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 5: with your stylist. 1254 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 4: Book your first session today, Macy's Personal stylists will make 1255 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 4: you look like the MVP of gifting. 1256 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 5: This segment is brought to you by Tommy John Underwear 1257 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 5: with Game. Let's get into some recent sports news. So 1258 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 5: the obvious Dodgers won the World Series and what one 1259 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 5: of the best, if not the best of all times? 1260 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 5: It's the second best. Enlighten us which one was better? 1261 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 5: Twenty sixteen Cubs state your case, just a great. 1262 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 4: Game top the bottom every inning there was something going 1263 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 4: on the changes all that, all right, but Dodgers winning 1264 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 4: the World Series. 1265 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. That was. I don't watch 1266 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 3: after the Yangs got eliminated. Sadly, I don't watch too 1267 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 3: much of the playoffs baseball, but games was was unreal. 1268 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 3: So you know my Moto was did you see? The 1269 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 3: whole thing was like he got tricked. Like his trainer 1270 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 3: was like, because he pitched. He pitched the next the 1271 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 3: day before, so his trainer was just kind of like, 1272 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 3: all right, but let's just get up and like throw 1273 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 3: the ball or whatever. He was just like throwing the ball, 1274 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 3: and I guess he was like he felt good. He 1275 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 3: was like next thing, you know, was like, oh you're good. 1276 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 3: He's like anything. Next thing, you know, He's like he's 1277 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 3: just sitting there on the mound. He's just like, how 1278 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 3: the hell did this happen? Really? Yeah, So it was 1279 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 3: like everyone in l a Man just thank you Momoto's 1280 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,479 Speaker 3: trainer because he checked them. They're getting on the mound. 1281 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 4: Do you think we're all being tricked by? 1282 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 3: You can't speak English. 1283 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 4: I think he speaks fool in English? 1284 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 3: He for sure. Do you see how he had laughing. 1285 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 4: Speakinglish? He was like, thank you guys. He was like 1286 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 4: he said everything he said in Japanese and like, so 1287 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 4: all right, appreciate you, thank you guys, and walked. 1288 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Off, like he said a little too too smoothly. Brother, Yeah, 1289 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 3: he was sure it speaks English, but you know, you 1290 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 3: know what I do gotta say though, shout out to 1291 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 3: Tommy John because they're underwear with game. 1292 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 4: Speaking of Tommy John, is now a good time to 1293 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 4: bring up your your modeling again. I think it's a 1294 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 4: great because want you have that fire commercial is very commercial. 1295 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 4: It was very wholesome. Beautiful wife, and it is very wholesome. 1296 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 4: God support black love, yeah for sure, right yeah, ironic 1297 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 4: black love ironic coming from me. But hey, guys, make 1298 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 4: sure you go get your Tommy John's because you get 1299 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 4: your I don't know if it's weekly, but you'll get 1300 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 4: a every once in a while you get a text 1301 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 4: from Tommy John and saying, hey, it's it's officially plaid season. 1302 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 4: Explore pro baller Josh Hart's top picks before they sell out, 1303 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 4: and you'll get a screenshot from PJ Tucker. They oh, 1304 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 4: they sent him a text from that. It's my text automated. 1305 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 3: He said to me something that's hilarious he did, dismissing me. 1306 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 4: That's all so for the I guess audience just saw it. 1307 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 4: But give us the summery jayen. Yeah, he said, what 1308 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 4: what the hell is going on? I don't want to 1309 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 4: see this stocking stuffer? 1310 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 3: You know, I stuck my stuffing. 1311 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 5: It's not o'clock dog on fire, stuck my snoffing out 1312 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 5: the PJ. Shout out the PJ, Shout out to Tommy John, 1313 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 5: shout out the Dodgers. 1314 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 3: JB, are you ready to Thankgiving? 1315 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 4: I am, Bro? What are you most thankful for? 1316 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Gott to be the family and obviously my Tommy John underwear. No, 1317 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 3: I love Tommy John. 1318 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 4: I'm thankful for that too, Bro. Because I don't have 1319 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 4: to see you, I'm dressing yourself. 1320 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 3: That's a pulse. 1321 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. I want to need Tommy John's four time stretch though, 1322 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 4: because that Thanksgiving plate. Man, it's got to be serious 1323 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 4: to shooting. 1324 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 3: Good underwear, family food, and somebody bringing up something nobody 1325 01:05:59,320 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 3: asked for. 1326 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of things aboad as bad gifts, I'm not 1327 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 4: doing that this year. What do I think will be 1328 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 4: a great gift though? Probably getting everybody some tommyjohnundwear, some majamas. 1329 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 4: What's your line, Josh. 1330 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 3: You know it. Gifts from the Heart would be a 1331 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 3: great stocking stuffer. You get nice and compact, breathable, be 1332 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 3: able to just throw it in the stuffer from the 1333 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 3: stocking and stuff. 1334 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 4: Stuff your stocking. Yeah, like little stuff for that commercial. 1335 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 3: That was all me. Baby. Gifts from the Heart with 1336 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 3: Tommy John and get thirty percent off site wide right 1337 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 3: now at Tommy john dot com slash rooms. 1338 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 4: Our bare Bells Baller of the Week is back. 1339 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 5: This player someone who has demonstrated the perfect balance between skill, 1340 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 5: fight and leadership. Basically, he's got that dog in him 1341 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 5: who wants to give out The first one can be 1342 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 5: anyone from any sport. 1343 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 8: Last week I got Alta. 1344 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 4: That's that's really. 1345 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you have you have to win four games 1346 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 3: to win a series, and he won three. That's not baller. 1347 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 4: I don't know this. That's really that's that's a good one. 1348 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 4: That's a good one. It made me me think my decision. Now, 1349 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 4: so you can go ahead first, you go second, Mitch. Okay, 1350 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 4: now I'm not a screwed. Now you're screwed. It's at 1351 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 4: the time of recording. Obviously this could change, but now 1352 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 4: it comes out. But Mitch's mitches per thirty six minutes 1353 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 4: offensive rebounds is fourteen offensive rebounds. Yeah, so I wonder 1354 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 4: what he's a bearable ball of the week. Now you 1355 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 4: have to think of a new one attle ball of 1356 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 4: the week. 1357 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 3: M hm hm hm. 1358 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 4: Who else will be hooping across any sport? 1359 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 3: Here's a guy that the guy in they're running back 1360 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 3: in Chicago, Swift got hurt. 1361 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 8: He had like a yeah he was hooping. No, Jackson Dart, 1362 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 8: Jackson Dart, he has been hoping. He's been Daddle's been hooping. 1363 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 3: That's about all I know. 1364 01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 9: Let's go to Jackson Darts Jackson Dart by as relations. Yeah, 1365 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 9: but he's been hooping broop and I respect it and acknowledge. 1366 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 9: I'll sub Jackson dirt cap what you got over there? 1367 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 4: You could be referring to a lot of things over here. 1368 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 3: He's talking about the protein bar. We say, holding appreciate, 1369 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 3: thank you man for the clarification. 1370 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's my Barebells protein bar. They got twenty 1371 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 4: grands of protein, no added sugar, and tastes as good 1372 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 4: as a candy bar. I want to take a bite 1373 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 4: of mine. 1374 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 3: N I have my own, and I'm going to take 1375 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 3: a bite of my own. 1376 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,679 Speaker 4: Thank you. It's not his, it really does. It tastes 1377 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,759 Speaker 4: like candy. I love him. They're the number on protein 1378 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 4: bar in the US, and I totally get why I 1379 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 4: eat these while we're on the go always. They're easy, 1380 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 4: delicious protein fis. 1381 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear everyone is saying, how you gotta fit 1382 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 3: this season? Man? It must be the Barebells. 1383 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,759 Speaker 4: Barebells is known for its perfect bounds between flavor, texture, 1384 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 4: and function. What do you like most about these bare 1385 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 4: Bells protein bar flavor? Yeah? 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Yeah, 1396 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 4: but they I don't know. Swift should be back by 1397 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 4: Thens just because I feel like when it you bet 1398 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 4: against Rogers even though he's older now like it still 1399 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 4: comes back there. 1400 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 3: Fair Enough's gonna be a trash game either way. 1401 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 4: Damn. 1402 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of these are kind of mad. Could 1403 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:54,879 Speaker 5: set Chiefs. I'm gonna say Chiefs, ad Bro I just like, yeah, Chiefs. 1404 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 5: I mean she Rice is back, he's playing well. 1405 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 3: Cheers, Yeah, especially if it's Prime time, because I ain't 1406 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:03,759 Speaker 3: gonna let them lose Prime Tom. 1407 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 5: Wow, all right, Bucks at Rams, every game I got. 1408 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 7: Rare, I'm going to say the Rams. Yeah, Rams, they've 1409 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 7: been They've been playing well. 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Just make 1432 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 5: sure you use bonus Code Roommates when you sign up. 1433 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 5: All right, let's get into some fan questions for some 1434 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 5: fan connections sponsored by AT and T. First up, Matt 1435 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 5: from Australia. 1436 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 3: We'll go in to national Hope you have a good 1437 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 3: international plan. 1438 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 10: Hey guys, Matt from Melbourne, Australia. 1439 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 3: Here. 1440 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 10: I love the pod, big Tom Knicks fan, being part 1441 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,639 Speaker 10: of next Twitter and international fan. It's a bit hard 1442 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 10: for me to understand the criticism of certain plans and 1443 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 10: coaches of our team of New York. I was just 1444 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 10: wondering what your opinion was, all three of you actually, 1445 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 10: of New York Knick's Twitter Knicks fans in general. 1446 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 3: In the City cheers back or Nicks next Twitter? Man 1447 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 3: next Twitter is an interesting Uh, this is an interesting 1448 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 3: space obviously going to be overly critical of us. No, 1449 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 3: we do need to get back to doing On next Twitter, 1450 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 3: I just encouraging. I'm showing love. 1451 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 4: Be positive. 1452 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm not I'm not sure what happened 1453 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 3: to being positive. But the first couple of games of 1454 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 3: the year, Bro, they were on your ass. Yeah, I 1455 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 3: don't even I love engaging, you know, engaging with fans 1456 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,640 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, but yeah, I think my my 1457 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 3: Nick Twitter did it might be over Honestly, it's more so, 1458 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 3: especially like if we lose, I'm already mad. If I 1459 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 3: play well, I don't play well, I'm mad. What I 1460 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 3: don't want is when I go on Twitter, my algorithm 1461 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 3: be just Nick's Twitter and everything is Nick Nick Nick 1462 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 3: Nick Nick and I and then I just get mad 1463 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 3: all over again. So yeah, I had I had to 1464 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 3: basically clear the algorithm, reset it. So what's it's still? 1465 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,799 Speaker 3: I still have some NBA stuff, But honestly, I muted 1466 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 3: a lot of words. 1467 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:04,759 Speaker 4: What's your mute? 1468 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 3: Muted myself? God, I how to do that? Nicks? I'm 1469 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 3: the New York mute in New York. 1470 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 5: I don't even get any non sports content about the city. 1471 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean probably some some others that I'm just 1472 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,680 Speaker 3: blanking on right now. But yeah, no, I like to 1473 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 3: mute surgery. Oh actually I think I might have muted surgery. 1474 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 3: I kept saying that a lot. Yeah, so shout out 1475 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 3: the next Twitter. But yeah, my, I think my next 1476 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 3: Twitter day or days are over. So you might be 1477 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 3: going to that pickup game by yourself, but must love 1478 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:46,799 Speaker 3: the next Twitter. 1479 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 4: Next, we have Alicia from Trinidad. 1480 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,759 Speaker 11: Hi, guys, my name is Alicia and I'm from Trinidad 1481 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 11: and Tobago. I'm a veterinarian. So I'm going to ask 1482 01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,679 Speaker 11: a bit of a different question, a non basketball question. So, Josh, 1483 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 11: I know you guys have pets for Jayalen. What are 1484 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 11: your dog's personalities like? I see them in pictures a 1485 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 11: lot online? Are they friendly? Are they play for video? Daughter? 1486 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 11: And Josh, I know you got large dogs, so what 1487 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 11: are their personalities like? And Matt, do you have any pets? 1488 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 11: All the best with the new season, guys, I'll be 1489 01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 11: rooting for you from Trididad. 1490 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 4: First of all, Stevie, pretty dope that we have fans 1491 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 4: in Trinidad. 1492 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 5: A right, Stevie, see you come on, Stevie and Alicia. 1493 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 5: This is the perfect episode, perfect episode if you asked 1494 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 5: this question, because we're joined by Stevie and ConA and Set. 1495 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 3: We have Jalen's furry furry friends with us today now. 1496 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:50,479 Speaker 4: So this is Connor, that's Stevie. Their personalities. Conna is 1497 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 4: the lax one. 1498 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 3: She's very chill, as you can tell if you're watching 1499 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 3: this on YouTube. 1500 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's very chill as she decides to sit up. 1501 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:06,680 Speaker 4: But she is the cuddler. She is the lover. She's 1502 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 4: kind of protector too, So that's ConA. Stevie is a 1503 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,759 Speaker 4: wild card. You didn't ever know what you're gonna get, 1504 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 4: but he's getting He's almost two, so he's starting to 1505 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 4: calm down a little bit. But he has the most 1506 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 4: energy in the world, the most. 1507 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, mine are honestly, mine have probably the same Nala 1508 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 3: as a like Doverman, she's too and she's super sweet 1509 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 3: but just has a lot of energy. And Apollo of 1510 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:46,080 Speaker 3: my Rod, he's just he's just vibes. So yeah, they 1511 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:52,480 Speaker 3: just be vibing. Really, that's probably pretty similar. Similar personalities 1512 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:53,560 Speaker 3: to them. 1513 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 5: And I sort of have a dog. I had one 1514 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 5: in La It's one hundred and forty pounds. Cane Corso 1515 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 5: or not King Corso press scenario. And when I moved 1516 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 5: to Miami, I moved into an apartment and wasn't the 1517 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 5: best situation for him. Now he's with my parents and 1518 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 5: they have a lot of land and I see him 1519 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 5: very often, and he's living a much better life than 1520 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,200 Speaker 5: I can provide him. Josh knows him well. It was 1521 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 5: also liable to just really attack anyone at any time, 1522 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 5: and so I wasn't trying to have him in the 1523 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 5: house with my new baby. But he's the He's how 1524 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 5: would you describe King? If you're If you're good with him, 1525 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 5: you're good. If you don't know him, you should. 1526 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:34,719 Speaker 7: Probably Yeah, what I have a story. 1527 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 4: Do you remember when we had a barbroo come to 1528 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 4: your house in La? 1529 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 5: Uh? 1530 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? That was bad. That was that was Yeah, that 1531 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 3: was a bad one. Scared the hell out of him. Yeah, 1532 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 3: he's scared the hell out of One time we were 1533 01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 3: living in the apartment in the Marina and Shannon came home. 1534 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,600 Speaker 3: I was I would think I was practice, he was. 1535 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,799 Speaker 3: I think you were at the office of doing something 1536 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 3: and I had my that's when Nova was still around, right, 1537 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 3: So I had Nova was there, King was there, and 1538 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 3: she opened that door, and King was like on go mos. 1539 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,799 Speaker 3: He was like, I was hiding behind my suitcase until 1540 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 3: I think you might have came home or he just 1541 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 3: kind of. 1542 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 4: Like I came home and she was hiding. 1543 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think like he like kind of realized like, okay, 1544 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 3: this is like a little bit of a familiar person. 1545 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 3: But and Nova was there, so Nova could kind of 1546 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 3: like Nova would kind of keep him in check a 1547 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 3: little bit. But if it was time to go, it 1548 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 3: was time to go with King. Yeah, I'll tell you 1549 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 3: what hell of a guard like you needed a hell 1550 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 3: of a guard dog? 1551 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. My daughters aren't guard dogs. 1552 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, King though yeah two good Yeah. King was 1553 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 3: all get active thanks to. 1554 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 4: Our friends at AT and C were connecting changes everything. Some 1555 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 4: of the best calls happened for Court, like a halftime 1556 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 4: checking with your diet or break down the first half. 1557 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Jayden and Rick, we see you. 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