WEBVTT - Ep. 448: Render - The Mena Connection 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.640 My name is Clay Nwcomb and this is a production 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.040 of the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.640 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.240 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast. Brought to you 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.920 by to Covi's Boots. I'm a cowboy boot man and 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.120 I've been wearing to Covis for years, the most comfortable 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:48.000 boot I've ever put on. Good boots for good times. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:57.920 Welcome to the Beara Render presented by to Covis. We've 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.800 got a We've got some various special guests today, very 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:07.160 special special on a scale, specialist special, the most special 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:11.680 guests of all time. We have Juju Nukem. Let's go 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.520 cos hot seat today. Wow, this is this is my mother, 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.360 Juju Newkem. She's here with us along with Gary Nukem, 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.360 my father, who's been here many times before. But you 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.080 guys are collectively in the toa Covi's hot seat. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.679 Okay, I was going to say Juju's more hot seat adjacent, 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.399 but yeah, I think we've got I like it collected 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.040 love seat. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:36.720 What happens? 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:37.840 How long have you guys been married? 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.000 What happens in the Takova hot seat? 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.479 All the special question I get some boots. Well, yes, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.720 now that you bring it out, yes, but fifty that 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:50.720 actually claimed him. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:53.440 You can each have one boot. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:54.160 That's fine. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.120 I bet we could work. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.880 Now, how long have you guys been married? 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:58.520 Fifty five? 0:01:59.040 --> 0:01:59.600 Fifty five? 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.880 You think, mom, I think it's more like seventy. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:11.639 Thirteen, twenty three, twenty three, So fifty three years fifty three. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.480 Wait you get married seventy three seventy three, yeah, seventy. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.200 Three if you had your anniversary this year already, we 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.359 don't keep up this night August night. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:26.160 Okay, Well we have Bear John nukembe and then we 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:31.080 have Misty doctor Misty Nukem with us and Josh Lambridge Schoolmaker. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:35.160 If you're watching this video move on YouTube, you will 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:39.280 notice that I am fully decked out in dark water first, 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.000 like Camo. This is not head to knee, head to 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:47.200 knee this, yeah, I've got I've got these snake boots 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.720 on to COVID. Yeah, they're collabed. They're pretty cool. But 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.680 this is not a stunt. I literally just pulled up 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:02.760 a couple hours ago from turkey hunting, Josh and killed 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:03.480 big Gobbler. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.960 I just pulled in from turkey hunting. Only I don't 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:06.720 have one of those. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:11.840 So I killed this bird at eleven o'clock today, And 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.120 I want to tell you what I was this morning 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:15.959 when I pulled. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:16.960 I just got the barring on it. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.560 Yeah, I've several of the ones we've seen this year 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:19.840 had that. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:21.200 Uh. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:29.840 I pulled out this morning at before three am. Yes, actually, 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.720 actually that's not true. It was three point thirty. I 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.240 left really early. I just wanted to make sure I 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:41.000 got to my spot early and on public land. And 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.040 it was a terrible morning, I mean the whole Like 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.120 I was driving down the highway and I saw the 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.480 interstate signs like doing like this, and I was just like, 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.400 why I may even going almost. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.320 Making the win to those who are listening only. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.800 Yep, And I almost turned around and came back. But 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.760 I went out there and there, and it was a 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.120 productive morning in that you could hear different times, like 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.360 the wind would die down and you could hear, and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.640 then by late morning you could actually hear really good, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.960 like the wind completely died down. But I didn't hear 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.640 a gobble, didn't hear a single gobble, and basically was 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.960 done hunting. On the way home, and I see a 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:22.159 gobbler like one hundred and fifty yards away before I 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.280 just see a gobbler. Okay, okay, I'm done hunting, all right. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:31.400 I see which way he's going. And I had been 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.360 crowing Alan. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.640 Calling I'm scary with his foil gum again. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:41.880 Cutting and no gobbles all morning. And I slip off 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.320 the mountain the same way this turkey's going, but about 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.240 three hundred yards from him. Okay, kind I didn't want 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.760 to be right on top of him because I saw 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.880 which way was going, dropped off, kind of got ahead 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.599 of him, stopped, just got set up, and it was 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.159 just like, there's no way this is going to work. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:05.320 Like this turkey doesn't want a gobble. Yelped, soft yelped, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.880 and I know that I'm within two hundred yards of 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:13.359 this turkey or so. And five minutes after I yelp, 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:21.040 I hear a raspy yelp back just and I think 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.000 it's a hen and but I go, well, one answered me, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.520 so I called back at it, but it sounded like 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.279 a jake yelping, and that's what it was. Two jakes 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.560 come marching right in, and when I saw their heads, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:38.080 I thought, this is the gobbler, and I thought that 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.000 they had some association with the gobbler that I only 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.520 saw one turkey. But I get down there, yelp, here 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.000 comes two jakes. I think, well, the gobbler's behind him. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.640 The two Jakes come in and just come right in 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.160 my lap, and I'm just hoping not to get seen, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.159 and I'm looking behind them and I'm thinking the gobblers 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.920 coming behind them. They passed by me. Ten minutes goes 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:04.360 no gobbler. I yelp. The Jakes come back. They come 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.840 right back past me, and I'm just frozen. And they 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.960 walk back now towards where I thought the gobbler was. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.520 I've still not heard a gobbler seen a gobbler since 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.960 I've set up. I yelp again. The Jakes come back 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.320 three times. Call up the Jakes to within twenty yards. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.640 The Jakes make a circle, and I don't realize this, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.880 but I've got to go to the podcast. I've got 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.040 to come here right and I know I can't mess around. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.080 And I hadn't heard this turkey gobble. And I just 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.120 figured with those jakes coming in three times, that they 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.920 if that gobbler was associated with these jakes, that he 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.080 would have druke. He would have come in by now 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.599 do you agree with me, Dad, Well, in desperation, I 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.520 just cut real hard like i'd been soft yelping, because 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.440 I knew these turkeys didn't want to gobble. They weren't 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:59.400 being vocal, so I just and it worked for the Jakes, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.240 but this time I just hammered it. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:02.440 Man. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:16.000 Oh, I was yelping on my prime cuts. Call big 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.320 gobble just out of sight, right in front of me, 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.360 right the direction that I thought this gobbler should be 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.880 like seventy five yards away, and I go, oh, dang, 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.160 he is here. I hunker down and I wait and 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.000 wait ten fifteen minutes. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:34.640 No, turkey, you didn't call anymore after that, No, because I. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.440 Mean I cut at him and he he hammered, and 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.760 I thought, well, he's going to come in. Well, I've 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.760 seen these jakes now three times, and this is like 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:50.160 forty minutes after I originally saw the gobbler, and I 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:57.280 pull a bear nukem and what we've labeled the chaos cackle. Yep, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.040 I'm telling you it's the reason that I killed this turkey. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.680 And the only reason I knew to do it was 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.480 because Bear told me he did it the other day. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.040 And it made a turkey gobble. I had to leave 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.880 to come to this podcast, so I took my hat 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.600 off and I started doing some fighting purs on this, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:29.720 on this, I'm too excited. I'm too excited. I started 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.760 doing loud purs and I took my hat and started slapping, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:39.640 my clapping my knee, started kicking the leaves, chaos cat 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:46.560 kicking the leaves, and then just cut his heart. Just 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.640 chaos cackle for probably a minute. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:55.240 Wow, he gobbles, he's gonna go break up a catfight, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:56.680 and I just. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.960 Lock in, and I mean, I've given everything I got. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.560 There's nothing left, there's no more tricks in the bag, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.160 and I'll be dad gun. Probably three minutes after I 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.400 did that, I see two heads coming. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:10.240 Two. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:16.360 It's the Jakes here they come back fourth time, just 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:21.880 but ten yards behind the Jakes. There was a third head. Oh, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.080 and he was out just a few yards back past him, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.959 and I see his beard flopping and he gets into 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.960 about twenty five yards and I had my gun pointed 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:33.960 like this and I just raised up like this, and 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.719 he saw me lift his head, got him eleven him. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:38.760 It was like eleven o two. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:40.800 Really, that's a great story. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:48.360 Chaos cackle multiple times multiple times. Yeah, I called one 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:49.880 in Tennessee last year. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.840 I called one. How's the first time I ever did it? 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.400 And I was on this bird for seven hours listening 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.400 to him gobble following him. But he's with a hen 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.280 and uh. The only position I could get in on 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.520 him was like straight down a hill, and he was 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.920 up on top of the hill for more than an hour. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.319 And after a while, I was. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.559 Like, well, I'll just try the old chaos cackle, and 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.600 I beat the leaves and cut real hard and just 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.760 made it sound like there was chaos going on down there. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.800 And exactly three minutes later, I see a head coming 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.440 down and he comes into twenty five yards. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.959 It worked pretty cool, it worked. I was not expecting 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.520 to kill a turkey. It was a terrible morning to 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:32.120 kill a turkey. But so that's why I'm wearing this camo. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.640 And he had a little over ten inch beard. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:35.360 There we go. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.280 Yeah, so we had a big, big turkey out in 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.480 week River killed one bear. I was with Bear when 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.640 he killed one here in Arkansas. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:43.960 Yep. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:45.520 It was pretty incredible. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.160 I'm going to kill one tomorrow. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.199 Josh is going to Missouri tomorrow. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:49.560 Yep. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.920 And understand bears locating some of these birds. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.960 Yeah, I'm used to you tell your kids, now, if 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.080 you go down here and take a left right over there, 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:58.880 you kill a bird. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.760 Now your kids still new where to go. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:06.559 That's right. Put me on all these turkeys, yep, you're 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:12.120 gonna learn. You put your old dad on turkey, turkey. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.000 When I go back in there, he's gonna think twice. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:16.040 How do you feel about that? 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:16.280 Bear? 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.360 I feel great, yeah, yeah. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:22.240 I mean, if there's turkeys, then you might as well 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.280 kill them. I feel like whenever you're hunting as a group, 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.800 it's like less about who kills the turkey, it's more 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.120 about just killing the turkey. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:29.640 That's good. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.320 That's good when kills the turkey. I mean, I kill 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.880 the turkey. And I learned that from Gary Newcomb. He 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.040 was very that way with me. I always felt like, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.760 when I killed the turkey, you were, oh yeah, probably 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.000 more happy than if you killed one. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.240 Yeah, a lot of dads would probably be that way. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:51.080 Think about how many turkeys he put me on, yeah, yep. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.480 And also that River killed one was a big deal 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.360 because River, you guys, came up in that ten year 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.199 that decade of just terrible turkey hunting in Arkansas, It's 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.319 been amazed at how many turkeys have come through our 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.720 you know, a crossed our threshold this year because I'm 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.240 so used to turkey hunting in Arkansas being terrible and 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.520 no one bringing anything home. And River and our kids 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.079 and the spilmmakers Josh's kids would go together to hunting. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.640 It was always a different person's turn. And there were 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.800 four of them in like within three years of each other. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.480 And so it went oldest, you know, and and Willow 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.080 got one, David got one or missed missed one. River 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.520 did a lot of walking and no turkey hunton and 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.880 then it kind of skipped over her and went to 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:38.520 the next group of one, and so we really owed 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.400 it to River to get one. I mean she really, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.760 she's really put in the work, really seriously over the years. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.200 She's been on all those uns. She was on all 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.920 those So finally River and Clay River. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.120 I said it the other day, but River is really 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:53.920 like a top shelf hunting partner. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:55.079 Uh. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:13:00.160 I would pick her snacks. No, she doesn't plan like 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:05.199 you do. You bring snacks, but her feet are quieter 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:05.840 than yours. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.160 Yeah, and she's she's the. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.480 Only beef I have with job. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:14.360 I fel too heavy. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.760 River doesn't get tired. Yeah, she's got a great as 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.280 We'll just walk for days. And she wears a five 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:28.720 and a half shoe. Juju, small feet. It's good for turkey. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:33.760 You feel at filled your duties as a father now 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.839 that all your kids are I have killed turkeys, and. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.640 Yeah, I'm pretty much done living pretty good lives. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.120 Yeah, onto the grandkids. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:43.600 Yep, yep. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.080 Well now we know what the next cooking with mom 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:46.640 is gonna be. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.840 That's right, that is actually right. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:49.920 And we're gonna have some turkey. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.640 Yeah, we've had I mean, we have had a lot 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.400 of people over the last couple of weeks. It's been 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.080 turkey turkey parties every night, and it's actually making me think. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.600 One night River had a bunch of riun's over for 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.200 Clay to cook turkey, to fry turkey for them, and 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.440 then one night Bear had a big turkey party, and 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.520 I thought, man, you know, all these kids are kind 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.960 of in the process of moving out. Chipp will graduate 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:13.880 this year, and I thought, it's going to be really 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.400 sad when everybody moves out. But I think we'll still 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.800 have the biggest comeback. We'll have the biggest kitchen and 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.880 maybe they can still parties. Yeah, I'm extending an offer 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.600 to continue Turkey parties at our house because it was 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.240 It was a lot of fun. And then I went 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.320 to bed and Bear cleaned up, which was the best 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:30.960 part of it. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.240 The good Boy. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.040 There's a couple of housekeeping things we've got to talk 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.040 about here. I want to bring attention to the first 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.840 Light Fieldwear line. Fieldwear line is just like every day 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:49.240 working clothes. Bear's wearing a pair of those pants. So 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.680 check out the first Light Fildwear. It's it's it's like 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:57.000 a really cool like every day wear work here and 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.360 really the stuff we've been wearing for a while. Yeah, 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.520 I really like it. Number two. If you haven't seen 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.720 Baron Eyes film called Southeast Alaska boat based Bear on 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.400 Meat Eater's YouTube channel, go check it out. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.800 It's a great film, it is. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:18.080 I really enjoyed that one, action packed The scenery is amazing. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.160 Get to see things you don't normally see, like whale skeletons. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.800 Yes, it's pretty. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.520 That was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.320 Whale skeleton. I would have given a lot to have 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.520 brought one of those rib bones home, no doubt, taller 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:36.560 than me, as big as a fence post. And that vertebrae, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.320 how cool would that be hanging in here? Very very cool, 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.080 the vertebrae or the rib bone, either one. Have the 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.120 rib bone hanging from the ceiling. We could do pull 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.960 ups on it. If we can do pull ups. Yeah, 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.720 it was. It was an incredible adventure. Southeast Alaska is 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:57.520 just so cool. And then thirdly, Bear has a film 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:02.040 coming out in mid May, and we're tramping you out 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.400 spring Bear. So Bear went to Montana last year and 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.479 killed a bear Spoiledeah. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:12.800 Actually I hunted twenty days straight bear hunting, with one 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.880 break in between. One day in between. We were in Alaska, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.200 came back home for one day, and then went. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.120 Went to Montana. Yeah, it was right after that was 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.040 not yeah wow, so and it was that's a tough hunt. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.560 It's it took me several years to get one. So 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.120 you'll be able to see that, which is really cool. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:31.720 And then. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:38.760 I I'm the Bear Book is We're in the final 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.320 edits of the Bear Book. It's going to be released 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:41.800 next spring. 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.080 Let's go yep. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:44.560 I'm very excited about. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.040 It, very exciting. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:52.360 So those are all the housekeeping issues I So I've 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.680 got Juju and popol here known to our kids as 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:04.360 that this appis was really interesting, Yeah, because a lot 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.680 of history there. I didn't know about Maria day Campa. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.639 Did you guys know about Maria deay Caampa? 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.520 About two weeks before y'all started talking about it, someone 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.160 put that on Facebook and that's the first I had 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.880 ever heard. Wow, And everybody I talked to had never 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:19.520 heard of it. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.960 Isn't that something? Now? How did you hear about it? 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:22.280 Josh? 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.720 So, my brother in law was talking to a guy 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.200 and he sent me the article and when I looked 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.560 at it, I was like, this is made up, Like 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.080 this is AI. And so I started researching it and 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.600 realized it was not. I sent it to you and 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.000 the very first thing you texted back was this is 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.919 AI And I was like, actually, it's not. And I 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.439 was shocked that you had never heard of it. And 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.000 I reached out to Gary and he was like, I don't. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.879 I don't know anything about that, and uh, yeah, I 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.920 was surprised because it, I mean, such an unbelievable story. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.159 You'd think it would be just common knowledge. Everybody, like 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.000 everybody would have would have known about it. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:00.400 Yeah. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.920 A polar bear was hanging out in the woods. I 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.800 actually my great aunt. She knows all the history. And 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.359 I texted her and I said, have you ever heard 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.199 this story? And she had never heard it. And she 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.880 would have been growing up. I mean, she actually would 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:12.160 have been. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:13.960 How old is she that age? 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.080 Gosh, in her seventies, no, eighties. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.960 Yeah, she's she's my dad's aunt. Okay, so she's probably 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:23.800 close to ninety. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.720 So she's like like Harold Coogan's age. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.320 Yeah, and she's she's pretty energetic. She keeps all the 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.360 all the news. I mean, I take the kids over 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.439 to her house once a year so that we can 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.239 look at the newspapers. I mean, and she I texted her, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.560 I said, have you ever heard about this story? And 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:38.359 she said she had not. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.239 Really, that was what puzzled me most, is that in 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.600 this small town. But that is also why kind of 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.880 what the point of telling these stories was was that 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.399 it puzzled me most that in this small town, I 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.239 had never heard about that grave. I mean, it's been 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:00.600 there since nineteen fifty one. And it was reported in 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:05.000 one of the big news outlets that this is the 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.720 only grave in America that says killed by circus lion, 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:14.720 that says that phrase, which it you know, it seems legit, right, 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.119 And but I think, do you guys have any ideas 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.439 why I have an idea? Do you have an idea 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.680 why no one from Mina few people from this small 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.880 town in Arkansas would know about this bizarre story, any 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:30.000 any any thoughts? 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.600 I mean, maybe just because they were passing through. Yeah, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.440 no one, No one knew them. That's when when did y'all. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:39.000 Move to Mina. 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:41.960 Nineteen eighty four, So it. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.200 Happened like thirty years before y'all moved there. It still 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.960 seems like something that people will be talking about thirty 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:48.520 years later. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.919 Well, people were there, yeah, I mean like Harold Coogan 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.160 remembers going to that circus. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.119 But the night before that accident happened. 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:58.919 Right, And then another one of my friends that I 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.120 went to high school with said that his dad went 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:03.000 to that circus. 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.880 This may seem crazy, but I wasn't even born when 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.719 that happened. Yeah, I was born in fifty one. Wouldn't 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:10.040 that what? 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:11.080 No, it happened. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:12.240 I was born in fifty two. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.879 I was born in fifty two, fifty two, but she 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.360 was died in fifty one as well. 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.000 Meant to say, yeah, yeah, so you would have to be. 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.359 I mean, now, Harold Coogan Todd So Todd Coogan was 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.160 our main guest, yeap, his father, and he was introduced 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.760 on the podcast as kind of the historian of me, 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.840 a really well respected guy, and we tried to get 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.040 him on the podcast, but it just didn't work out. 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.439 Harold Coogan's eighty eight, so he was born in thirty 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:41.920 eight probably. 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.680 So yeah, I was hatched out in forty eight. Forty 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:46.879 eight and I'm seventy eight. 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:50.400 But you didn't grow up in me. No, No, grew 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:51.720 up in Hot Springs. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.920 Right, and they would I do have something to say 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.600 about Hot Springs. You made it sound like we just 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.520 got us a hot rod and this horrible town. 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.919 Yeah, I mean, that's that's kind of the way it was. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:11.720 Well, I think up uh, Hot Springs is a great 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.919 place to raise kids there, there's nothing wrong with it. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.600 But we had a job opportunity in a small town 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.280