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Speaker 1: Luca and the MAVs collapse in the fourth quarter lose
Speaker 1: against the Calves one thirteen to one ten. The Calves
Speaker 1: overcame a twenty point deficit, outscored the Mavericks thirty one
Speaker 1: to twenty in the fourth quarter. No Donovan Mitchell, no
Speaker 1: Darius Garland, no Evan More. Karas Lebert twenty nine points
Speaker 1: and Augussy late three for the lead. Jared Allen had
Speaker 1: twenty four points twenty three rebounds. I guess he was
Speaker 1: responding to Andre Drummonds twenty four and twenty five against
Speaker 1: the hag yesterday. Luca thirty nine, seven and six was
Speaker 1: an kind of what did you take away from this
Speaker 1: ball game? It's it's usually your bench. You know, Dallas
Speaker 1: is they have one superstar. This reminds me of Jordan
Speaker 1: when he came into the league, right, you know, Luca
Speaker 1: is so good where we think that you know, Dallas
Speaker 1: Mappick is a concerned good. No, he's good. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not good. You know your third best player, which is
Speaker 1: your second best player, now comes off the bench.
Speaker 2: Right. It lets you know where the team is and
Speaker 2: you know he was just outmatched.
Speaker 1: You know, it's basically him versus you know Cleveland five.
Speaker 1: Now which is embarrassing because you know, without the no
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, no Darius Garland, no Evan Mobley. So the
Speaker 1: Cavs are down three starters. You can't lose that game
Speaker 1: on your home court, especially being up by Twinny gild Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know when you when you have players like
Speaker 1: LeVert coming off the bench where he was a big
Speaker 1: factor in this game where it came off with twenty
Speaker 1: nine off the bench, right, you know, he was a big,
Speaker 1: big key when Brooklyn was when when he was with
Speaker 1: Brooklyn right when he's hating them, So you know he
Speaker 1: can play. And that's what's coming off the bench. So
Speaker 1: you got guys that steps up that you normally don't
Speaker 1: count on. But that's what having deep rosters is like.
Speaker 1: So when you do need players like that, they can really,
Speaker 1: you know, count for one game. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: just one of those games where you know, Dallas got
Speaker 1: a little a little overzealous, as you can say, yeah,
Speaker 1: and when you look at it, I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: ball game and I'm saying, Okay, Hardaway Junior is a
Speaker 1: nice player. You got Dante ExHAM who's been playing well,
Speaker 1: Grant William who you signing free agency. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how you get up by that many and just
Speaker 1: blow the game.
Speaker 2: I mean, they basically blew that ball game. They had
Speaker 2: a twenty point lead.
Speaker 1: And maybe, and I don't know, maybe you can tell
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But I know sometimes we have
Speaker 1: a propensity to relax if a team I know, in football, oh,
Speaker 1: they ain't got this starting quarterback, they're down there starting
Speaker 1: running back, they're down there starting receiver, or their best
Speaker 1: this is their best that and sometimes you find yourself
Speaker 1: you take that for granted. But normally you don't see
Speaker 1: that happen in football. A team get a fourteen to
Speaker 1: seventeen point lead with out of team's best players, and
Speaker 1: the other team that doesn't have those best players come
Speaker 1: back and win.
Speaker 2: Now we see this, a.
Speaker 1: Twenty point lead in today's game is not the same
Speaker 1: as a twenty point lead twenty years ago, Gill thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, because the guys can shoot the three ball
Speaker 1: so much better. Because I don't remember, I mean when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, I don't remember got teams coming
Speaker 1: back from twenty six and twenty eight points in a
Speaker 1: ball game. Because normally that okay, it's time to watch
Speaker 1: something else. It's time to do something else. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go outside and play ball in our home. Y'all down
Speaker 1: by twenty six, twenty eight. But the way they shoot
Speaker 1: the three ball, a couple of threes, a couple of turnovers,
Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, a twenty eight point
Speaker 1: lead is eighteen.
Speaker 2: And then they go on another spurt, another ten to
Speaker 2: oh run.
Speaker 1: So now an eighteen oh run, and now you're down
Speaker 1: ten when you're just down twenty eight.
Speaker 2: But Seth Curry played a good game.
Speaker 1: He had nineteen points, Luca as I mentioned, had thirty nine,
Speaker 1: Dante ExHAM had thirteen, Derek Jones had twelve, and Tim
Speaker 1: Hardiwick Junior had fourteen. But you look at Cleveland, Isaaca
Speaker 1: a Cooru had twenty two, Jared Allen twenty four and
Speaker 1: twenty three. As we mentioned, Karris Lebert had twenty nine,
Speaker 1: George n A sixteen.
Speaker 2: You gotta win that window, Gill got.
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that you kick yourself, you know,
Speaker 1: in the ass later because you let this, you know,
Speaker 1: get away from you. With that being said, what gets
Speaker 1: you in the leads is also what takes you out right.
Speaker 1: Because this is a three point shooting league. Now you
Speaker 1: can go up by twenty, and you can go down
Speaker 1: by twenty. You shoot four or five straight threes brickswimming
Speaker 1: and they made three or four five, Right, you just
Speaker 1: cut that lead down.
Speaker 2: And that's right. That's what's happening in today's game.
Speaker 1: Where there's no lead that's safe because when you're up,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get twos and get to the
Speaker 1: free throw.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: You're trying to add the same method that got you back.
Speaker 1: This one thing that I have a problem with is this.
Speaker 1: Everyone shouldn't shoot the goddamn ball. But I know we
Speaker 1: need to put up you know, a certain amount of threes.
Speaker 1: But not you, not you, not you, because when we're
Speaker 1: up twenty, everybody else feels like they can shoot.
Speaker 2: This is my job shoot right, No, it's not your
Speaker 2: time to shoot.
Speaker 1: But kil have you ever seen a situation where all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the team is hot and everybody and
Speaker 1: you see this a lot and mop up duty. A
Speaker 1: team is like up by twenty with like two minutes
Speaker 1: to go in the ballgame, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they call time out and they sub everybody out, and
Speaker 1: even the backups come in and they launch them and
Speaker 1: they're going in. Now, you put them guys in a
Speaker 1: regular meaningful.
Speaker 2: Game and they can't buy a basket.
Speaker 1: But seemingly, when they're up by twenty, everybody, no one
Speaker 1: can miss a shot. And I think the thing is
Speaker 1: what you're alluding to is that all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everybody they feeling good. They make it three. Hey, let
Speaker 1: me let me try one. No, bro, you need it another,
Speaker 1: but two. Actually you need dunks and putbacks. You don't
Speaker 1: need anything outside the pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah.
Speaker 1: When you when you're a bench player, the game's down,
Speaker 1: you down by twenty, you up by twenty. That is
Speaker 1: the perfect scenario for it because you have no pressure
Speaker 1: on you. So you just to go out there and
Speaker 1: just shoot how you want to shoot. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: like practice for you, right, You just get to throw
Speaker 1: up shots, and sometimes that that costs you. You know
Speaker 1: when a team still has their starters in Yeah. Yes,
Speaker 1: So the Mavericks lose, they collapse to the Calves lose
Speaker 1: one thirteen, one ten. After being up by twenty points.
Speaker 1: The Calves outscoring about eleven in the fourth quarter to
Speaker 1: take a one thirteen to one ten victory. The thunder
Speaker 1: beat the Knicks one explicit duo of Shake Gilders, Alexander
Speaker 1: and Jalen Williams combined for seventy two points. Shake Gil
Speaker 1: just had thirty six, eight and seven. Jalen Williams, I
Speaker 1: think everybody names Williams in the state Oklahoma play for
Speaker 1: the Thunder. He had thirty six on five or five
Speaker 1: three seventy six percent field goal.
Speaker 2: He was thirteen or seventeen.
Speaker 1: Chat Holmgren had twenty two and the Thunder now moved
Speaker 1: to twenty and nine.
Speaker 2: I like the Thunder Gil, I like him. I do too.
Speaker 1: But they're young, right, Yes, they're gonna give you those
Speaker 1: days where you know they're gonna be tacking because you
Speaker 1: know your best player, Shade, he has it right. He
Speaker 1: understands the game. He's dominating the game right now. He
Speaker 1: for the last three four five years, he's been showing
Speaker 1: that he is a superstar.
Speaker 2: So yes, with.
Speaker 1: Him leading the charge, it's easier for everybody else to
Speaker 1: just chip in here and there. So they have great
Speaker 1: players around Shade that can just do what they do
Speaker 1: and don't have to worry about the heavy lifting. Yeah
Speaker 1: he I mean, man, I love Shaye. I mean he
Speaker 1: has a tremendous pull step back he can get to
Speaker 1: the rack. He can finish with either hands. He's a
Speaker 1: little bit more explosive because you think he's gonna lay
Speaker 1: it up and he will flush it on you. He
Speaker 1: got a nice little three game that's not in his arsenal,
Speaker 1: but he can get hot and hit the three. As
Speaker 1: you mentioned Williams. I saw him against the Lakers a
Speaker 1: couple a couple of days ago, even though the Lakers won.
Speaker 1: He can stroke it from three. He can really shoot
Speaker 1: the ball from outside. Chad Hogan, he's up and coming.
Speaker 1: He needs to add about ten pounds.
Speaker 2: In that frame.
Speaker 1: But what I like about him, he ain't just jacking
Speaker 1: the threes. He'll try to put the ball on the
Speaker 1: floor and try to get to the rim. He'll try
Speaker 1: to poke it on you, and he's challenging everything. You
Speaker 1: might flush on him, but he's gonna block two or
Speaker 1: three shots. He's gonna alter two or three shots. So
Speaker 1: he's gonna impact the game from on a defensive from
Speaker 1: a defensive perspective for about ten points because he's gonna
Speaker 1: block two or three of your shots. He's gonna alter
Speaker 1: two or three of your shots, and maybe he'll make
Speaker 1: the time of possession run out on a few of
Speaker 1: your shots, so he's gonna count for ten ten points.
Speaker 1: That's why they're so good defensively, even though they are young.
Speaker 1: But I like this team. They can get up and down,
Speaker 1: They can play a lot of different styles. They got
Speaker 1: young guys, and when you know young guys, you don't
Speaker 1: know anything. You don't know anything about being tired. But
Speaker 1: I love Shake Guild just Alexander, And maybe maybe Kawhi
Speaker 1: went a little bit too fast because how do you
Speaker 1: think the Clippers And we're gonna continue with this, but
Speaker 1: how do you think the Clippers would look with Shake Gill?
Speaker 2: Just in Kawhi see that now you see why, Like
Speaker 2: you know, you you questioned that upper management like what
Speaker 2: what did you see? What did you see? You know?
Speaker 1: I guess they were trying to win right now, and
Speaker 1: you know it was more of a package deal for
Speaker 1: Kawhi to why I wanted, Yeah, he wanted to become
Speaker 1: I heard Doc. I heard Doc was talking and he
Speaker 1: tried to explain that. He's like, you need to give
Speaker 1: this guy here. He's like why, he's really good and
Speaker 1: he said, well, if you don't get me PG, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to the team across the hallway, and they
Speaker 1: could ill afford to have that because that had been
Speaker 1: a death sentence for the Clippers. You cannot have lebron
Speaker 1: A d and Kawhi across the hall and then all
Speaker 1: you have if what you've got. So I understand they
Speaker 1: had to make the move and they gave up a
Speaker 1: king's ransom to get PG. But when you look at it,
Speaker 1: and you look at it player for player right now,
Speaker 1: shake you just is a better player than PG, and
Speaker 1: he has been for the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Shame.
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, he might be a better
Speaker 1: player than both of them right now. You might be right.
Speaker 2: He might be you know, you know he might be
Speaker 2: right like he is. I won't fight you. I won't
Speaker 2: debate you about it, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it can go either way at this point.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's steady, he's humble, he trains, he's worked.
Speaker 1: I mean every summer he comes back, he's added something
Speaker 1: to his game. Yes, And you know, Clippers is gonna
Speaker 1: always kick themselves, you know, in the butt when they
Speaker 1: look back at some of the trades they made versus
Speaker 1: what they have now. But you know, just like anything,
Speaker 1: you're you're always trying to move pieces and get better
Speaker 1: pieces when you don't know that what's fool's gold and
Speaker 1: what's real goal? What's that gym? You know, what's that
Speaker 1: gym hiding in the you know one of those and
Speaker 1: he those.
Speaker 2: Type of players, right you look at the knicks. R J.
Speaker 1: Bard gave him fourteen, Julius Random gave him twenty five,
Speaker 1: Devincenzo gave him seventeen. Jalen Bronson was twenty four, quickly
Speaker 1: was twenty two. But they let they let the thundershoot
Speaker 1: a very high percentage. And Phibodeau team is normally known
Speaker 1: for defense, but it's seemingly the Thunderway able to get
Speaker 1: whatever they wanted. Now it's look, it's very difficult. I
Speaker 1: mean to try to say, Okay, we're gonna I understand
Speaker 1: you got Josh Hart, and I understand RJ. Barrett and Devincenzo,
Speaker 1: but ain't nobody, Ain't nobody stopping Shade from getting where
Speaker 1: he wants to go. He's gonna get his shot because
Speaker 1: you try to beat him to the punch and now
Speaker 1: he's gonna pull back and shoot that shoot that little
Speaker 1: twelve foot fourteen foot shot, and he's gonna swish it
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: pull back. He pulled has it and now he's landed
Speaker 1: up off the glass or he's landing up either way
Speaker 1: left hand or right handed.
Speaker 2: In the cup.
Speaker 1: So and if they're gonna shoot it like this, if
Speaker 1: they're gonna shoot the ball like this, they got little
Speaker 1: chat As I said, Chet's gonna challenge everything. You got
Speaker 1: Lou Dordt, who's a quality defender who can get hot
Speaker 1: and shoot the ball from three. And they got guys
Speaker 1: that can shoot the ball from three. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you look at this team, Jalen Wims can shoot it
Speaker 1: for three. Kendrick he's more of a down low player,
Speaker 1: but he can get hot. Jalen Williams, well j A. L. E.
Speaker 1: N and j Y hell I in like I said,
Speaker 1: everybody named Williams Oklahoma plays for the Thunder. But they
Speaker 1: got a nice young, nice young basketball team. Is Isaiah Joe.
Speaker 1: He can shoot the three ball because I remember him
Speaker 1: last year when I was at the game, when which
Speaker 1: lebron fans kareem And every time the Lakers make a run,
Speaker 1: one of these Williams of Isaiah Joe would make a
Speaker 1: three to quell that run. So I was really impressed
Speaker 1: with the thunder, and I think they're only gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Josh Geeddy, he's not having the season because he normally
Speaker 1: by now probably have what two or three triple doubles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think with him, you know, besides the
Speaker 1: off the court, you know situation, that's then that's you know,
Speaker 1: looming around him. I think with Chet there, it takes
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hand more. Yes, right, and
Speaker 1: with with Shade being more dominant, you don't you don't
Speaker 1: need Giddy, Right, He's a movable piece at this point.
Speaker 2: You don't need him.
Speaker 1: His upside has dropped very, very drastically. Yes, the nixt squad,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be impressed with him. It reminds me all.
Speaker 2: You like Tibodeau.
Speaker 1: You have two guys that's playing thirty plus minutes, scoring
Speaker 1: foreign four and two, four and four, Like, what is
Speaker 1: the point of them being on the court from someone's
Speaker 1: averaging twenty thirty points? Yeah, Josh Hart had played thirty
Speaker 1: four minutes and he gave you four points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wasted miss wait, wasted minutes? You have Isaiah?
Speaker 2: Was it Isaiah hards Dad? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But he's your center because you know the big went out.
Speaker 1: I mean, because they're already undersized team. If you look
Speaker 1: at them, Hardenstein now is their largest player. So I
Speaker 1: mean you got to play a big because you got
Speaker 1: Julius Randall and you know, obviously Randal's gotta play r J.
Speaker 2: Barrett.
Speaker 1: Their decent size, but when you look at it, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not a big team. That's why I don't think
Speaker 1: they can do anything in the East because everybody else's gynormous.
Speaker 1: You look at Boston has great side with presingas uh
Speaker 1: uh uh uh j T and JB. They have great
Speaker 1: size with them. We know Milwaukee has trees with Giannis
Speaker 1: and and and Bobby Porters and Brook Lopez and Joel Embiid,
Speaker 1: and they come with not and they come with I
Speaker 1: think it's Reed's who's the backup center, ain't I ain't
Speaker 1: talking about Mobamba.
Speaker 2: I ain't talking about him. No, No, I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about him.
Speaker 1: But they got big guys that can back you down,
Speaker 1: and I don't know who can deal with who can
Speaker 1: actually in a seven game series For the Knicks, I
Speaker 1: know they can win one game because Jayalen Bruns can
Speaker 1: get hot and give you, give you fifth. We've seen
Speaker 1: Julius Renderd he can get hot and he give you thirty,
Speaker 1: and he can give you thirty, forty and fifteen. But
Speaker 1: in a four game to win four games against Milwaukee
Speaker 1: or Boston or Philly, I don't believe they can do it.
Speaker 1: Do you think they can win a series against one
Speaker 1: of the three teams? No, not those seams. The only
Speaker 1: team they can beat and I said last year, the
Speaker 1: only team y'all can beat here is playing against Calves,
Speaker 1: and that's who they got. You know, Calves with Toronto,
Speaker 1: you can beat one of those teams with a player
Speaker 1: like Brunson. You know, once you start getting to that
Speaker 1: second round and you started going against them giants, it's
Speaker 1: really hard to win with that lineup. I mean, your
Speaker 1: best most dominant player is small. Becky Hammond said it right.
Speaker 1: They don't have a one a player. They don't Brookson
Speaker 1: is a great, great second player or third or coming
Speaker 1: off the bench as that that it guy, right, He's
Speaker 1: so hard for small guys to win a title.
Speaker 2: Gill.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the history of the game
Speaker 1: as lead dogs has been Steph Curry and it's been
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas. Yeah, and now don't don't take anything away
Speaker 1: from Ai. Chuck was outstanding and he put up big enough,
Speaker 1: led the league in scoring.
Speaker 2: Obviously we know what he is. He was a he
Speaker 2: was a historic player.
Speaker 1: But to win a championship, man, like I said, you
Speaker 1: got to be Steph Curry, who we know is transcended
Speaker 1: in Isaiah. Those are only I'm talking when I say small,
Speaker 1: and I guess Steph Curry. What you say, Steph is
Speaker 1: six two, six and a half and a half, six
Speaker 1: three and a half Isaiah six to one. But when
Speaker 1: you start talking about it's bruntson is Brunson six foot.
Speaker 2: With shoes on? He six to two? He made it.
Speaker 1: So when you when you talk when we talk about small.
Speaker 1: Now we know the big guards, we know, we know
Speaker 1: uh magic and we know Jordan's guys of that. But
Speaker 1: man for them, for them little guards. Man, you're asking
Speaker 1: an awful lot. It's a it's an awful lot because
Speaker 1: if that's your best players, and it's not like he's
Speaker 1: athletic or like he's he's long, right.
Speaker 2: You know where he can make up some of the
Speaker 2: black of side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's he's small, stubby, compact, right, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, he's not a Chauncey Billups. But if you
Speaker 1: put him with like Lebron great, if you put him
Speaker 1: with Boston great. When he's the best player on the team,
Speaker 1: you really don't have a chance because he has to
Speaker 1: do so much being limited, and he's very limited at
Speaker 1: his size. I mean, I compare him to it, and
Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm pretty sure it is offended because
Speaker 1: it was a two time All Star average in twenty nine,
Speaker 1: and don't compare me to do he ain't even on
Speaker 1: level right right, But but but that's just the case.
Speaker 1: When you're small like Iverson, you gotta average thirty two
Speaker 1: to thirty three twenty four. I can get that from
Speaker 1: any guard. I can get from me guard. But what
Speaker 1: he does bring is he brings the leadership and knowing
Speaker 1: how to get a great bucket in the last five
Speaker 1: minutes of the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sensatial with that.
Speaker 1: So okay, see with that ball Game one twenty nine,
Speaker 1: the Sixers beat the Magic minus Joel Embiid one twelve
Speaker 1: to ninety two, Sixers first win without Embiid this season.
Speaker 1: In five tries, Philly takes seventeen more shots than Orlando
Speaker 1: ty Reeves, Maxi had twenty three points to lead them.
Speaker 1: The Anthony Melton stepped up tonight. He had twenty two,
Speaker 1: eight or thirteen field goals. He was plus twenty four.
Speaker 1: Ty Reech Maxi credits James Harden for helping him develop
Speaker 1: into an all NBA caliber talent. First, let's get to
Speaker 1: the Sixers beat the Magic without Joel Embiid, and then
Speaker 1: we can address Tyreeves. Maxi comments credit Flowers for James Harden.
Speaker 1: What are you like minus Jordan? Obviously we know what
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid. He's averaging thirty five points a game. He's
Speaker 1: given you ten eleven rebounds a game. Now he's given
Speaker 1: you five or six assists the game. So now he's
Speaker 1: the complete package, and he's a dominant force on the
Speaker 1: defensive end.
Speaker 2: So he's given you thirty five.
Speaker 1: He's assistant on six, so we assumed that at least
Speaker 1: two of those is gonna be three.
Speaker 2: So now he's basically given you about forty five to
Speaker 2: fifty points a night with his points and assist. So
Speaker 2: you know you got that.
Speaker 1: You know you see Tybres Maxi blossoming growing right.
Speaker 2: In front of our eyes.
Speaker 1: He can he's giving you twenty five to thirty on
Speaker 1: a night the basis, and some nights he can give
Speaker 1: you thirty five forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you like?
Speaker 1: What do you like most about the Sixers without him?
Speaker 1: Be they're they're way better than Orlando. Orlando is young, right,
Speaker 1: you know, something coming to a young team. So you
Speaker 1: know you expected, you know, Sixers to winness, right, you
Speaker 1: got you still got Harris over there, you still got Oubre,
Speaker 1: You got solid veteran guys who know how to play
Speaker 1: this game. Right, You would expect, like MAXI to come
Speaker 1: out and try to score forty tonight, right because in
Speaker 1: B's not You're like, oh, I get to get off.
Speaker 1: But the way the game is being played, he realized
Speaker 1: that he still manages the game, you know, and Bed's
Speaker 1: not going to get this ball, but Uber can get
Speaker 1: some shots. You have, Harrison gets some shots, Milton get
Speaker 1: get some shots. So he still did his job as
Speaker 1: a point guard, you know, getting the team involved when
Speaker 1: usually a young, a young guard would try to make
Speaker 1: up the point difference for his star center.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, uh, he's really, he's really good.
Speaker 1: He's he's he's gonna get the max contract, and I
Speaker 1: think the max contract this year especially he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make the All Star team. And
Speaker 1: so now he has another bargaining chip and it so
Speaker 1: whatever the max was last year, I'm assuming it's going
Speaker 1: up a little bit at five percent. There's a five
Speaker 1: percent and place your tax max contract number. But I
Speaker 1: like Tyree's maxing. He said he credited James Harden with
Speaker 1: helping him develop into an All NBA player.
Speaker 2: What's he saying for for our lay people at home?
Speaker 2: What is he saying? Yes?
Speaker 1: See, people don't realize how great James Harden was at
Speaker 1: putting that ball in that basket. Right.
Speaker 2: I think we.
Speaker 1: The last two years we judged him on out side
Speaker 1: things and not realize what he was very skilled at.
Speaker 2: Right. You know, you got to go back to that twenty.
Speaker 1: Eighteen twenty nineteen season where he average w thirty six.
Speaker 1: Out of the last sixty one games, he scored thirty
Speaker 1: plus forty six of those games out of sixty one
Speaker 1: games he scored forty. He's scored thirty or more forty
Speaker 1: six times or more all sixty one times. That's a
Speaker 1: different breed of a score. So if I'm MAXI I'm
Speaker 1: soaking up everything. I don't care where he's at right now.
Speaker 1: I know what's here, and I want to train with you.
Speaker 1: I want to pick your brain. I want to know
Speaker 1: what you know because this type of level of scoring,
Speaker 1: there's only really two other guards that really this, Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Hoben went on runs like this. Ye, yeah,
Speaker 1: where you're talking about out of the last sixty one
Speaker 1: games of the season, twenty or more, all sixty one.
Speaker 1: That's impressive, yes, And I think the thing is what
Speaker 1: we remember James Harden at his absolute apex in Houston,
Speaker 1: and he turned himself in more of a facilitator at Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: So we didn't see that fifty that fifty point triple double.
Speaker 1: We didn't see the sixty point triple doubles. We saw
Speaker 1: guys somewhere in the mid twenties give you a triple double.
Speaker 1: And if Kad was out, he took the owners, he
Speaker 1: could score more. If Kyrie was out, he could take
Speaker 1: the owners and score even more. But normally when one
Speaker 1: of those other guys were out, it was great because
Speaker 1: he understood, yes, I can get my shot, but I
Speaker 1: need to get these other guys involved.
Speaker 2: When he went to.
Speaker 1: Philly, he even became more of a facilitator, leading the
Speaker 1: NBA in assists last year because of Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 1: I don't see a situation where you shouldn't leave the
Speaker 1: NBA at assists if you got Joel and bid it
Speaker 1: up and down too. Now you know he gonna give
Speaker 1: you thirty a night anyway. Most of a lot of
Speaker 1: those gonna come from the file line. But when I
Speaker 1: look at when you look at gay, and that's what
Speaker 1: I said, as a veteran player, give that knowledge because
Speaker 1: a lot of times Gil Man, he ain't taking my job.
Speaker 2: I ain't helping it.
Speaker 1: Facts facts, And we see this chat with a lot
Speaker 1: of times in the NFL with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: It's not my job to get him ready. It's not
Speaker 2: my job to help him.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, bro, if you're secure in yourself, he
Speaker 1: can't beat you out for the job. If you are
Speaker 1: what you believe is pass the information on. It'll serve you.
Speaker 2: Well. What good is all that information to hoard it?
Speaker 2: Spread it?
Speaker 1: But I love Tyreese maxt and I love the fact
Speaker 1: that he's gave James Harden says, James Harden is the
Speaker 1: reason I'm watching him, and you should should You should
Speaker 1: be able to get better by being on the same court,
Speaker 1: by practicing with picking his brain, watching what he does,
Speaker 1: see how he breaks down the defense, how he orchestrates
Speaker 1: and leap excuse me, how he breaks down the defense,
Speaker 1: how he leads an offense.
Speaker 2: You should get better? You should?
Speaker 1: Everybody don't, right, because everybody want to get better. No,
Speaker 1: everyone ain't built for the same altitude, right, right, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? And that's usually the most frustrating part.
Speaker 1: Where you have someone like a James Harden who he's
Speaker 1: he's an eagle right right, and playing with some pigeons
Speaker 1: and he's trying to.
Speaker 2: Get them to.
Speaker 1: His altitude, knowing that if they get they're gonna die, right,
Speaker 1: So now he has to come down and play pigeon basketball.
Speaker 2: While getting killed by the media for playing pigeon basketball, right.
Speaker 1: And then that's where you have this fine line between
Speaker 1: being selfish and being a team player.
Speaker 2: Where I can average thirty six on this team they trash, But.
Speaker 1: If I make the right plays and pass these guys
Speaker 1: at the ball, they're not capable of it. So should
Speaker 1: I average twenty two eleven assists and we lose? So
Speaker 1: I can prove that this team sucks or do I
Speaker 1: just average thirty six points and you just keep calling
Speaker 1: me selfish?
Speaker 2: That is a big finger in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is a big fight in the NBA with
Speaker 1: the star player when when the pressure from the outside,
Speaker 1: it is like why he ain't pa, why he ain't
Speaker 1: doing because my team ain't good. They not They can't
Speaker 1: step up to this level. They don't want to work
Speaker 1: like I worked out three times a day every day.
Speaker 1: When I got to Washington, I seen in my years
Speaker 1: Koran was the most consistent, Larry Hughes a few times,
Speaker 1: and Twine Jamison a few times. That's it in my
Speaker 1: in my and and and my extra work. So when
Speaker 1: I come in at nine o'clock and at nine eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock at night one in the morning, I only seen
Speaker 1: a few.
Speaker 2: Players out of my whole career.
Speaker 1: Everybody don't want it, then you can't make them. And
Speaker 1: see that's what that's what people don't understand. There's a
Speaker 1: price to be paid for greatness, and if you're not
Speaker 1: willing to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great.
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you talk about it, because
Speaker 1: see professional sports, the one thing that you can't talk
Speaker 1: your way in or out because they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to prove it. The proof is in the pudding.
Speaker 2: So you're telling me all this what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I don't see it manifesting itself because I'm a firm
Speaker 1: believer Gil that if you were I don't care what
Speaker 1: it is. If you work at something, you will get
Speaker 1: incrementally better. I'm not gonna say you're gonna be if
Speaker 1: you if you finger paint, I'm not gonna say you're
Speaker 1: gonna be Picasso. I'm not gonna say he's gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, Da Vinci or Mikaelangelo. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: But you will get better, yes, even if it's marginally.
Speaker 1: This is what I said about Ben Simmons. I didn't
Speaker 1: see any improvement from Ben Simmons from his rookie year
Speaker 1: to his fifth year.
Speaker 2: And people are, oh, man, you don't know. I said,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: There's no possible way that this man can be putting
Speaker 1: in the time that he says he's putting in, and
Speaker 1: I don't see any improvement. You know what's so funny.
Speaker 1: He is one of those rare cases. I've watched him
Speaker 1: three summers. I've watched him three summers, and what I'm
Speaker 1: watching is a superstar basketball player. Right, I'm walking like
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here. He can shoot the ball. He can
Speaker 1: He's coming downhill right, He's dominating.
Speaker 2: These other superstars.
Speaker 1: They were scared of this man every summer because he's
Speaker 1: gonna pick up full court. You know, you know in
Speaker 1: the summer you're trying to be he's picking up a
Speaker 1: full court and he's coming at you.
Speaker 2: That perception is a real thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of shooters, a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that can't shoot is because they've been practicing in
Speaker 1: these small gyms and then when they get to that arena,
Speaker 1: they can't. I got I gouged that that damn rim. Wow,
Speaker 1: when he plays in the game, he don't shoot the
Speaker 1: ball because.
Speaker 2: I don't think he knows that distance.
Speaker 1: I've watched this man's like, why don't you shoot the
Speaker 1: ball in the game right? Like your foot The mechanics
Speaker 1: is great, and I think that that that rim, that
Speaker 1: that that you know you know and practice.
Speaker 2: There's there's that.
Speaker 1: Wall right there exactly yeah open, it's open space in
Speaker 1: that arena. So I always made it a stance myself
Speaker 1: to the night before I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna get in that rim.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in that that Uh, if there was
Speaker 1: no hockey game, I'm gonna get on the main court
Speaker 1: and get some shots up.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta practice in that arena.
Speaker 1: You can't practice in these small gyms and then get
Speaker 1: to the arena and think your shot is that? And
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, there's there's a couple of
Speaker 1: things with that. And I think he just when he
Speaker 1: gets to that game, I think he just freezes up.
Speaker 1: He's scared to make mistakes. Yeah, that's that's a lot
Speaker 1: of it, because we saw that and in the game
Speaker 1: seven against Atlanta when they had that lead. You see,
Speaker 1: the thing is, Gail, I can teach you to I
Speaker 1: can teach you to swim if you're not afraid of
Speaker 1: the water. See, I can't teach you to shoot if
Speaker 1: you're afraid to miss it. See it's not that he
Speaker 1: can't shoot. He's afraid to shoot too. That's two different things.
Speaker 1: But not being able to swim and being afraid of
Speaker 1: the water are two different things because you're afraid, Well,
Speaker 1: he was afraid.
Speaker 2: That's why he didn't shoot. That's why. And I remember
Speaker 2: saying it.
Speaker 1: I says, and Doc, I remember, Doc said, anybody that
Speaker 1: doesn't think that we're gonna play that we're gonna take
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons out and we're not gonna play him in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: They don't know basketball.
Speaker 1: I said, Doc, it's gonna come a time you're gonna
Speaker 1: have no choice, I said, because he's a liability.
Speaker 2: I said, because if.
Speaker 1: The team is down by ten and it's a outside
Speaker 1: of two minutes or I'm following him every day, every
Speaker 1: trip down the corn, I'm gonna fiore him. Y'all are
Speaker 1: not gonna get that ball to Joel and Bed And
Speaker 1: that's what Atlanta did and got back into the game
Speaker 1: every single time.
Speaker 2: And Dan when it came time he had a dunk,
Speaker 2: and he asked it.
Speaker 1: The mental when you're when you're mentally not comfortable, it
Speaker 1: shows at the worst time in games. Yes, right, I
Speaker 1: remember when, like when I came back off an injury
Speaker 1: and my free throws wasn't on right now because my
Speaker 1: free throws is not where they're supposed to be, I'm
Speaker 1: scared to drive to get hit, so I don't have
Speaker 1: to shoot that free throw, right, that's a thing. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm driving not to get fouled because so I don't
Speaker 1: have to go to the free throw line. Right, So
Speaker 1: when you start looking at the game, once that, once
Speaker 1: that player gets into his own mind, there's nothing the
Speaker 1: coach can do, there's nothing opponent to do.
Speaker 2: He's already beating himself.
Speaker 1: Up right right, Like there was times where when I
Speaker 1: was on my free throws, I talked to myself, cash
Speaker 1: money baby, nothing but cash money baby, Like I had
Speaker 1: to talk myself into everything I'm doing cash money buckets.
Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a thing that when you're on
Speaker 1: that court, you miss ten straight shots, if you're not
Speaker 1: self confident, you're gonna miss another ten. That's when you
Speaker 1: start wide open layup. You miss it or you got
Speaker 1: gotta lay up, and you finally get your point.
Speaker 2: Your teammate goal tended.
Speaker 1: Everything starts going wrong, can throw it go in, uh somebody?
Speaker 2: Uh free throw violation.
Speaker 1: Right, Everything just starts going wrong, and it just keeps
Speaker 1: you down that spiral. Then you just gotta be you
Speaker 1: got to be self aware to get yourself out of it.
Speaker 2: And I don't think I think that it was at
Speaker 2: that moment. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think the number one thing Gil is, this is
Speaker 1: what I tell a lot of people, whether it's force
Speaker 1: or life, don't you become an opponent Because a lot
Speaker 1: of times we can become our own opponent. And that's
Speaker 1: even more that's even more lethal than the opponent for
Speaker 1: the opposing teams.
Speaker 2: Us.
Speaker 1: We create an opponent that we cannot beat in that self.
Speaker 2: And so what what what Ben has done?
Speaker 1: He's created an opponent that he cannot beat, and until
Speaker 1: until he defeats that opponent, here we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the sad part is I've always said it like
Speaker 1: if I was a coach and I know this player
Speaker 1: is struggling, I know this player will sacrifice his scoring
Speaker 1: for the betterment of the team, right, And as a coach,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, but f these teams got them,
Speaker 1: do you right? I need you to go out there
Speaker 1: and please try to give me fifty. I want to
Speaker 1: see it. We got to meet me and the rest
Speaker 1: of the crew. Got to bet go out there. We're
Speaker 1: not trying to win this game. I'll wait to We
Speaker 1: got damn played. Uh, We're gonna play goddamn Detroit. Everywhere
Speaker 1: everyone bingched Ben, you gotta win this game by your
Speaker 1: goddamn self. I because I gotta see I gotta let
Speaker 1: him tap into it so he can see it for himself.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to just see what you can do
Speaker 1: to really believe, because there's no way that you're going
Speaker 1: to the game. Think about this ship. You're playing thirty
Speaker 1: eight minutes and you took six shots. Yeah, that means
Speaker 1: you are purposely not even looking to score. You just
Speaker 1: out there. Ask you you like the you like the
Speaker 1: motherfucking uh the playing in the club.
Speaker 2: Uh? You just in the club.
Speaker 1: You're just there, you know, different than that thing back then.
Speaker 1: You're just out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, especially he the point guard and I'm playing that
Speaker 1: many minutes. Oh, I'm getting me twelve to fourteen to
Speaker 1: night fax shots. Hey, hat shots, guaranteed shots.
Speaker 2: Hey, like you said at the club, it's the club
Speaker 2: shot shot shot shot shot, because I'm getting the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the bull Ki And who's gonna tell you
Speaker 1: no when you when you're so getting like.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure and be.
Speaker 1: James Harden, No, not James Harden, but uh, Kyrie, Yeah, Katie, I.
Speaker 2: Know those guys were so pissed off at him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, because I get to watch you every
Speaker 1: day in practice, homeboy, Yes, I get to see your
Speaker 1: ability in real time and then you come out here
Speaker 1: and give me this bull.
Speaker 2: That's the frustrating things.
Speaker 1: When you know what your your teammates is capable of,
Speaker 1: and then they come into the lights and.
Speaker 2: You've seen it, you've seen it, you see it again.
Speaker 1: We've all I mean, I've had teammates catch a ball,
Speaker 1: I mean high point the ball in practice, catch the
Speaker 1: ball in a crowd.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about one hand.
Speaker 1: They can do it all and as soon as you
Speaker 1: put them in the game, ball hit him in the
Speaker 1: face mask I mean ball hit them right between the
Speaker 1: I mean the ball that hit him on the ground
Speaker 1: by the time they bring their hands together. We've all
Speaker 1: seen guys like that, like ro what happened to that
Speaker 1: guy that was in practice on Wednesdays and Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 1: How do you go from that you don't drop anything
Speaker 1: to you can't catch anything because he's comfortable with us,
Speaker 1: not the opponent, Oh, be comfortable with us, not the opponent.
Speaker 1: The opponent is the person that they know, and not
Speaker 1: knowing stares the shit out of some people. We see
Speaker 1: that a lot in camp, guys making plays against people
Speaker 1: that you know. And that's what if a lot of
Speaker 1: times you hear football players say, Man, I just want
Speaker 1: to go out there against somebody that I don't know,
Speaker 1: that doesn't have on my uniform. I just want to
Speaker 1: hit somebody, because you want to see what these young
Speaker 1: kids can do against somebody that they don't know. Yes,
Speaker 1: somebody that that's not going to put that thump on
Speaker 1: them and that's not going to put him on the ground.
Speaker 1: That guy's trying to make the roster just like you are.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So I want to see I want to see the
Speaker 1: Suns beat the Rockets one twenty nine, one thirteen. KD
Speaker 1: ha the monster night. He had twenty seven points, sixteen assists,
Speaker 1: ten rebounds. KD denied a report that he's frustrated with
Speaker 1: the Sons. Walk says, somebody else feels that I'm frustrated
Speaker 1: and it turned to me being mentally checked out.
Speaker 2: This is crazy. These people can.
Speaker 1: Plan out loud, my name, make it up and you
Speaker 1: people will believe it. But when my teammates and coaches
Speaker 1: speak on high am as a high am as a teammate,
Speaker 1: you ignore it.
Speaker 2: Lol.
Speaker 1: So we'll get to that. We'll get we'll get the
Speaker 1: KD comments in a second. Let's talk about the game.
Speaker 1: What did you like, what did you like about what
Speaker 1: you saw tonight from the Suns? And what's been what
Speaker 1: happened tonight that's been different than the other Knights. See
Speaker 1: what the Suns they have a great starting five, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we we can't give you no praise.
Speaker 1: You're playing Houston, right, I mean, he's you know, proving,
Speaker 1: but you know what we know who's coming to play
Speaker 1: it Kevin Durant Booker right right on, Like you know,
Speaker 1: that's that is the core of that team.
Speaker 2: It's it's trying to find.
Speaker 1: That six seven eighth guy who can give you consistent
Speaker 1: play and and and that's that's the key with a
Speaker 1: lot of these teams. They haven't really dialed in that
Speaker 1: their roster. They don't know what they're looking for or
Speaker 1: what they want, and it's it's bringing a lot of
Speaker 1: confusion in your with team chemistry in.
Speaker 2: The first place.
Speaker 1: But the starting five themselves, oh they're balling the starting
Speaker 1: five for for sons. They they got their stuff intact, right,
Speaker 1: They're having about they're having is about ninety five points
Speaker 1: as a starting unit. Okay, that is impressive, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about what one hundred and sixteen points.
Speaker 1: That means you only need about twenty off the bench. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the thing is I'm looking at it not hey.
Speaker 1: KD had to play forty one minutes. Eric Gordon played
Speaker 1: thirty nine minutes. Book played thirty six minutes against Houston.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, who I was they got on that goddamn team.
Speaker 3: They traded the most people who say, God, you're gonna
Speaker 3: put ball bowl in, You're gonna.
Speaker 1: Put u wakasambie whatever you're gonna put you to watch
Speaker 1: nab Come on, oh bow, did get get two minutes?
Speaker 2: Got too many?
Speaker 1: Get god damn two minutes? But they don't have fy
Speaker 1: one onder the event, so he do you have to
Speaker 1: play forty one minutes?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That started played a boatload of minutes tonight.
Speaker 1: The only starter didn't play major minutes is Nurkic, and
Speaker 1: he he played fourteen minutes. But everybody else going with
Speaker 1: at thirty nine, KD was at forty one, Grayson Allen
Speaker 1: was at thirty three, and Book was at thirty six. Uh.
Speaker 2: Let's uh.
Speaker 1: The the Rockets a young young team.
Speaker 2: I think they're still the youngest team. I mean, they're
Speaker 2: really really young.
Speaker 1: What I like, uh Udoka, I think that's the way
Speaker 1: to say, I would say, ka is ka I may.
Speaker 2: What what what what? I love some goon? Yeah? Someons?
Speaker 2: Well what what what are the rockets? What are the
Speaker 2: rockets need? How do the rockets they're they're so, they're so.
Speaker 1: They have a whole bunch of pieces, right, It's like
Speaker 1: it's like having a whole bunch of clothes but no outfit. Right,
Speaker 1: figure out how to put it together. And you know,
Speaker 1: with signing Dylan Brooks and signing Van Fleet, you kind
Speaker 1: of got some experience with them, but your your focal
Speaker 1: point where your your future is gonna be Jalen Green,
Speaker 1: Uh Sun Goon and Jabari Smith. He he ain't giving
Speaker 1: me enough, right, No, no, no, no, I agree, I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree, And I don't know if you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if saying good and it's taken away from him,
Speaker 1: but the way he saying going passes it.
Speaker 2: He should be eating.
Speaker 1: He should be eating, you know, in that in that position,
Speaker 1: and it should open up the court. But you know,
Speaker 1: right now, I think they're trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: guys to keep, what guys they can paget, who to
Speaker 1: play like some of these teams, you know, playing eleven
Speaker 1: man ten man deep.
Speaker 2: Some of y'all don't got teams like that, right, y'all
Speaker 2: don't got them type of rosters to be subbing in
Speaker 2: the tenth man, Right, y'all should get y'all ass whoof
Speaker 2: putting in number ten? Yeah? I mean you look at this.
Speaker 1: I mean they got guys that played Jake Londale for
Speaker 1: the Rocket play twelve minutes. Amen Thompson played seventeen with
Speaker 1: more played played eighteen, Holiday played twenty four. Easton played
Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean they got and plus that. That's
Speaker 1: not even the starters. Those are those are the guys
Speaker 1: that came off the bench, yep. I mean nobody played
Speaker 1: more than three twenty nine minutes. That was van Fleet
Speaker 1: and Sengoon. And this is the problem with teams like this,
Speaker 1: when you got a young team, where's the days where
Speaker 1: like Alan Iverson right, he averaged forty one minutes for
Speaker 1: his career. You guys have all the technology, now, you
Speaker 1: got all the medicine, and you're telling me you're playing
Speaker 1: less they are.
Speaker 2: Right, Where's where's my.
Speaker 1: Guys where I can like Jalen Green, all my young guys,
Speaker 1: y'all need to play forty two forty three minutes you
Speaker 1: need to get these days, Gil.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 1: They got too much technology, they got too much minutes
Speaker 1: minutes in medicine, because if you look at it, baseball
Speaker 1: used to have four man rotations and three man rotations.
Speaker 1: Now you got five man rotations and you got set
Speaker 1: up men, and you got closes. You see, we know
Speaker 1: too much and that's the problem. Well it's taxic well
Speaker 1: Hill it is. It didn't tax the other guys that
Speaker 1: didn't at tax Steve Cartins elbow, yeah, Gibson, Jenny McClean,
Speaker 1: guys used to throw.
Speaker 2: I mean, the likelihood of us ever seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the likelihood of us consistently seeing three
Speaker 1: hundred strikeouts? A guy's pitching three hundred innings, two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty eight. I mean, it's not guys, go five
Speaker 1: to six inning.
Speaker 2: That's it. Turn it over, turn it over to the
Speaker 2: middle of the bullpen.
Speaker 1: You got middle relief, you got set up, you got
Speaker 1: somebody to close it out.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: So, I think that's what basketball. I mean, Hell, we'll
Speaker 1: play will play forty eight and a half minutes for
Speaker 1: an entire season. Now you mind you there's only forty
Speaker 1: eight minutes in the game. So he played. I mean
Speaker 1: think about what look at Wilton numbers. Look and guys
Speaker 1: played like you said, major major minutes forty minutes. I
Speaker 1: mean Jordan, I mean there were a couple of years.
Speaker 1: I mean early in Lebron Caerer Lebron played for had
Speaker 1: a season he played forty one minutes. No, that was common.
Speaker 1: I don't think the guy's not playing like that anymore,
Speaker 1: you know what I think it is, And it would
Speaker 1: make sense from a financial standpoint or as an owner,
Speaker 1: right where I have someone like a Jalen Green, right,
Speaker 1: instead of him playing forty three forty four minutes, I
Speaker 1: play him thirty two to thirty three.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Instead of having him for ten years, I got him
Speaker 1: for sixteen years of greatness.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: So I think with the time restriction, I think is
Speaker 1: it's making their careers a little bit longer, so I
Speaker 1: have the asset longer. And I think that's what it
Speaker 1: seems like is going on, that they're taking away two
Speaker 1: minutes to stretch the career out. Okay, you know, but
Speaker 1: that makes it yet, you know, we have to we
Speaker 1: have to sit there and ask that why isn't he
Speaker 1: playing forty minutes and saving ten minutes a game? Adds
Speaker 1: to your years, right right, you know, but I'm a
Speaker 1: Scovias coach.
Speaker 2: I need to win. I'm trying to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's address what k KD denied, report that he's frustrated.
Speaker 1: Would said, somebody else feels that I'm frustrated and it
Speaker 1: turned into me being mentally checked out.
Speaker 2: That is crazy.
Speaker 1: These people can plant outline my name and make it
Speaker 1: up and you people will believe it. But when my
Speaker 1: teammates and coaches speak on how I am as a teammate,
Speaker 1: you ignore it.
Speaker 2: Lol.
Speaker 1: Gil KD. Look at your history. People were reporting that
Speaker 1: you were unhappy in OKC. You denied that you book
Speaker 1: it out of town. People say there was some grumblings
Speaker 1: about you were feeling some type of way that you
Speaker 1: weren't being looked at and thought of like Clay Stephen
Speaker 1: and Dramond. You booked it and later came out you
Speaker 1: was never going to be accepted. There was report that
Speaker 1: KD might ask for a trade and he was unhappy
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn in the direction and here you are in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: So God forbid us from believing what they say when
Speaker 1: everything that has ever been said about you, for the
Speaker 1: most part, has turned out to be true. I think
Speaker 1: the only issue he probably has an issue with is
Speaker 1: saying he checked out, right, Yeah, Like if I'm if
Speaker 1: I'm him and I'm reading that, what do you mean
Speaker 1: check out? I'm imaging thirty at night. I'm giving them
Speaker 1: my all. I'm coming to work day in and night,
Speaker 1: day out. Right, Katie is a student of the game, okay,
Speaker 1: meaning he don't have he don't have life outside of basketball.
Speaker 1: All he does as y'all can see, you tweet something,
Speaker 1: He's on it, right, So you tweet right. If I
Speaker 1: d him at right now, within three minutes, he's gonna
Speaker 1: look at it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So he's in tuned with everything that's going on, and
Speaker 1: he's watching games.
Speaker 2: He's probably watching this show, right. Is that a good
Speaker 2: or bad thing? Good thing?
Speaker 1: The best players, they they're in tune with everything that's
Speaker 1: going on, and sometimes that in tune, iss is what
Speaker 1: frustrates you because the rest of your teammates is not
Speaker 1: in tune with me. So expressing frustration versus being frustrated,
Speaker 1: it's two different things.
Speaker 2: Right, I can be.
Speaker 1: Mad at the moment in time, but these are my
Speaker 1: guys right right, Like I'm I'm upset that they're not
Speaker 1: getting it. Done, they're not working hard and not getting
Speaker 1: back on D all of that, like when Book said,
Speaker 1: oh you're gonna turn the ball over and not get
Speaker 1: back on D. Right, I'm frustrated now, but I'm not
Speaker 1: frustrated with.
Speaker 2: Who the person is. Okay, right, And sometimes you know.
Speaker 1: This guy might play hard, but I'm frustrating. I'm frustrated
Speaker 1: at his work ethic, but he performs well, you got
Speaker 1: you got two different type of elements that that goes
Speaker 1: on on a team. So I don't think he's frustrated
Speaker 1: to the point where he wants to trade.
Speaker 2: He's probably frustrated.
Speaker 1: With the circumstances where him and Book that he requested. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you requested. But the thing about it is you're worse
Speaker 1: than you were last year. And that's the frustrating part.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. What are they
Speaker 1: gonna trade? They traded all the assets to get him,
Speaker 1: So what are they gonna What are they gonna What
Speaker 1: are they gonna The old saying that what you want
Speaker 1: me to give stuff?
Speaker 2: We'd asked him out what what are we gonna do
Speaker 2: to get him? Bill?
Speaker 1: We gave up everything, We gave up our future to
Speaker 1: get Kevin durant, So what we're gonna trade books?
Speaker 2: Don't chev this? H what? What? What are we gonna
Speaker 2: give up?
Speaker 1: I think the more of the frustration, like if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm him, what I'm gonna be frustrated is just.
Speaker 2: Where we are as a team, right right.
Speaker 1: We we were this close last year, this close, right,
Speaker 1: and we made a trade for Bill. The pieces we
Speaker 1: made for Bill were pieces that helped. Well, if Bill's
Speaker 1: not in, those pieces that help were not. So technically
Speaker 1: we're worse than we were last year. So I think
Speaker 1: at this point in time, he's like, man, it's December,
Speaker 1: is about to be January, Bill. We need Bill to
Speaker 1: come back so we can just prove how good we are.
Speaker 2: And sometimes when you're.
Speaker 1: Under manned and you going out there and everyone's judging
Speaker 1: you like, yeah, the Suns they look weak this year,
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, we don't have all our pieces
Speaker 1: to be great right now. And that's that's a frustrating,
Speaker 1: frustrating part where you know that that big key is Bill,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be averaging twenty when he gets healthy, right,
Speaker 1: But you know, sometime the mistake that people can make
Speaker 1: is that Okay, he averaged he wants average thirty.
Speaker 2: Kad No can give us thirty. He led the league
Speaker 2: in scoring four time.
Speaker 1: And we know what book is where we just put
Speaker 1: all this together just because you put a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of knife stuff. Look, I like ice cream, I like
Speaker 1: graybig and chicken. I just don't like it all together.
Speaker 1: And just because you got three guys that can average thirty,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's gonna work. Somebody has to be
Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice. Now, look understand that that that book
Speaker 1: you're playing in unnatural position. He's not a point either two,
Speaker 1: but he has to play because they had to give
Speaker 1: up Chris Paul and I understand that Bradley Beal has
Speaker 1: been hurt. Kevin and Rant is whatever you need. He
Speaker 1: doesn't really need the ball. He can get his own.
Speaker 1: He can play with his back to the basket. He
Speaker 1: got the heads they pull up, he got the three
Speaker 1: point shot. You file him, and he's going to the
Speaker 1: free throw line. He's gonnakno ninety percent of those down.
Speaker 2: But at at some point in time, Gil, you gotta
Speaker 2: play some defense.
Speaker 1: And the question is when they get to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and if they get down by let's say five points,
Speaker 1: can they get stopped when they absolutely have to have one.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the question when we get there, right,
Speaker 1: is we don't need to play defensive whole game. Just
Speaker 1: if we're in that time and we need to make
Speaker 1: that guaranteed stop.
Speaker 2: Can we do it? Are we capable of doing it?
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be something that when the playoffs come,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to prove. Those three guys are perfect
Speaker 1: for each other because they can all do the same thing,
Speaker 1: which means if I'm a catch and shoot guy and
Speaker 1: you're a dreamer penetration guy, you can post up. You
Speaker 1: get we don't affect each other's realm because we all
Speaker 1: play in different rams. All three can play io, all
Speaker 1: three can flare, back door, post up, right, So you
Speaker 1: got three guys that can move around versus if you
Speaker 1: had someone like Shack right and Tim Duncan on the
Speaker 1: same court, that's conflict.
Speaker 2: They both want the right block, right, They're.
Speaker 1: Gonna both fight for the right block, and none of
Speaker 1: them are dominant on the left side. Right right, Now,
Speaker 1: you got a confliction, and that's what happens with a teams.
Speaker 2: So with these three, it's a great puzzle. Right.
Speaker 1: They just got up you just gotta put them all
Speaker 1: on the court together and be healthy for twenty twenty
Speaker 1: something games.
Speaker 2: But did they.
Speaker 1: Factor in over the last several years of Bill's help,
Speaker 1: did anybody factor that in?
Speaker 2: M You've been hurt, Gil, He's been hurt.
Speaker 1: But listen, most medical staffs are cocky. They think, well,
Speaker 1: well y'all are y'all not us? You know we can
Speaker 1: get him healthy. And it's that weird thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you went through it, but I did. When
Speaker 1: you get injured, you do all this training to get
Speaker 1: back two games later, back injured, he started getting these
Speaker 1: random nick knacks for no reason.
Speaker 2: And that's where Bill is. And I say, that's where
Speaker 2: he got to cheat.
Speaker 1: He gotta he gotta cleanse, cleanse this how. I don't
Speaker 1: know why he gotta cleanse his house because he just
Speaker 1: got there. But you gotta cleanse something. Goddamn it. There's something,
Speaker 1: there's something in your life that's that's that's that's a
Speaker 1: negative hold onto your chie and you got to cleanse it.
Speaker 1: You gotta sit there with it. Just start removing people.
Speaker 1: I don't give fucking it's the dog. Get rid of
Speaker 1: the dog. If you think the dog is you gotta
Speaker 1: really like reset, right, because you know these knick knacks,
Speaker 1: it just keeps linger and linger and Lingeren he comes back.
Speaker 1: Oh you heard his shoulder come back, hurt his toe,
Speaker 1: Like there's a reason this happens.
Speaker 2: You're off a line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know when you start limping into the
Speaker 1: season and you get nick during the season, it's hard
Speaker 1: to get healthy because you come And that's what I
Speaker 1: tell guys.
Speaker 2: God, how am I supposed to normally?
Speaker 1: When when an average person is injured, they say take
Speaker 1: time off. Yeah, when you're a professional athlete, you don't
Speaker 1: get no time about try. They trying to rehab to
Speaker 1: get you back on the field. As a normal civilion,
Speaker 1: you're trying to rehab to go back to your normal life.
Speaker 1: But when you're a professional athlete, you're playing against the
Speaker 1: top in the world, and it ain't no average It
Speaker 1: ain't no normal life.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: The worst thing an athlete has against him as his ego.
Speaker 1: When we're injured, we don't come back to prove we're healthy.
Speaker 1: We come back to prove we're injured.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I hope they see me limping and
Speaker 1: giving it my all. You know, I can go out
Speaker 1: there and play fifty percent. I can go out there
Speaker 1: and play eighty percent while I'm sitting there getting booed. Right, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's washed, he's this, and I'm trying. I'm coming back
Speaker 1: to prove to you that this was serious versus just
Speaker 1: getting healthy, and that is our issue.
Speaker 2: Right, we're watching the game. I don't care if it's
Speaker 2: a month or two weeks.
Speaker 1: We watched the game pass us by. We watch, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm a point guard. I watched this guy score thirty.
Speaker 1: This guy, he's he's ranked in front of me. Now
Speaker 1: I'm speeding up my process because I want to get
Speaker 1: I want to get my spot back. So right, I'm
Speaker 1: limping out here, knees swollen. I don't supposed to be playing.
Speaker 1: They said ten to twelve weeks. I'm back six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks. I'm fine knowing damn well, I can't be
Speaker 1: out here right. Findy ain't good enough because you got
Speaker 1: to be at the level where you were before you
Speaker 1: got injured. That's what makes you great. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't care. Look, a race car with a flat tire
Speaker 1: ain't good. I don't care how many horsepower it got,
Speaker 1: because this not gonna perform like it did if it
Speaker 1: had four perfectly fine inflated tires.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So if you come back and you're nick in the slightest,
Speaker 1: you become very average. An average gets eaten eating in
Speaker 1: professional sports.
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. That's just the way
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Unculture J asked one simple question, Uncle gil Win, or
Speaker 1: if will kd ever be content? I think it's happy
Speaker 1: asking for too much at this I think happy is
Speaker 1: asking too much at this point. I look up and
Speaker 1: I'm expecting this man every seven eight months act for
Speaker 1: a trade.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I look, I understand, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't think I can win a championship in Okay.
Speaker 1: See he went to the perfect situation called a lot
Speaker 1: of criticism, and I don't think people was upset. I
Speaker 1: think people were more upset that you joined that team,
Speaker 1: the team that knocked you out when you had them
Speaker 1: down three to one, and you say, well that okay.
Speaker 1: You go there, you win two championships, your finals MVP,
Speaker 1: you probably would have one a third had your Kilees
Speaker 1: not gone out.
Speaker 2: And then you move on. You want to go to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: You you recruit Kyrie or Kyrie recruited you, and you
Speaker 1: end up in Brooklyn and you're.
Speaker 2: Not having there and for whatever reason, you wanted to
Speaker 2: move on.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, bro, I mean what I mean, what
Speaker 1: what if if I were to ask you, because you
Speaker 1: played this sport and you kind of know him somewhat,
Speaker 1: you kind of been maybe you've been around him, what's
Speaker 1: he looking for?
Speaker 2: He's looking to play basketball? That it seems it seems
Speaker 2: simple right where.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about a guy who I mean, let
Speaker 1: me see how many scoring.
Speaker 2: Titles KD got? Four? Yeah? Right? And when people ask
Speaker 2: why he left?
Speaker 1: Right when you're talking about fire and Scott uh for
Speaker 1: scoring titles you had probably about with ten all NBAS,
Speaker 1: you had an MVP, you have All Star MVPs, right,
Speaker 1: eight time All Star, two goal When you're a free agent,
Speaker 1: the only thing that you don't have on your resume
Speaker 1: was a ship in the finals MVP. Right, You get
Speaker 1: those two out of the way. In his mind or
Speaker 1: just in my mind? What am I proving here? The
Speaker 1: only thing I'm proving now is get more?
Speaker 2: Right? Do I need four rings? Like?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Am I the greatest small for what? Ever? Am I
Speaker 2: a second greatest small ford? Ever? Like am I one
Speaker 2: of the top five? Ever? Like right, I.
Speaker 1: Train, I work out, I train, I go to sleep basketball. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm out there, you know, putting my heart into it.
Speaker 1: As I think as players, we can sleep great at
Speaker 1: night knowing that we give it are all and whatever
Speaker 1: comes with it comes with it. But I don't really
Speaker 1: think he's looking for something. I just think he wants
Speaker 1: to play high level basketball most most most players do
Speaker 1: the great ones, right, if they're in position to win chips,
Speaker 1: are gonna go for it.
Speaker 2: Other than that, they just.
Speaker 1: Want to go out there and play hard, and everybody
Speaker 1: with them going out there and playing hard. Gil you know,
Speaker 1: going to Golden State hurt him more than it helped him.
Speaker 1: I understand he got the chips, but unless he gets
Speaker 1: one without Steph Curry, you already know how this story
Speaker 1: is going to be written. You know that, And unfortunately
Speaker 1: I think Kade knows that fair or unfair, right or wrong,
Speaker 1: but is what it is.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: But when we think of it like that, right, it's
Speaker 1: not like he can go to a team and he
Speaker 1: is by himself and try to win a championship.
Speaker 2: Right, But he recruited Kyrie, he had James Harden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so no matter where he goes in this lead today.
Speaker 1: There has to be a team up. So when he
Speaker 1: do win, they're gonna say, well, you got Bill over
Speaker 1: that got nah. I think the thing is with Steph.
Speaker 1: I mean, you join a two time, you join a
Speaker 1: unanimous MVP. And Steph Curry was already at that point
Speaker 1: in time, the greatest shooter we had ever seen, and
Speaker 1: so that system and I get it. Okay, I just
Speaker 1: want to get y'all off my back. Let me go
Speaker 1: ahead and get these titles. I get these titles. I'll
Speaker 1: calm it down. No people looking at you, like, Bro,
Speaker 1: there was twenty nine other teams that you could have joined,
Speaker 1: twenty eight because you had left. OKC, there's twenty eight
Speaker 1: other teams, and you mean to tell me you go
Speaker 1: join the team that had just won seventy three games
Speaker 1: and just lost in a Game seven in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2: That was the only team you can find. Okay.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I'm a free agent. I'm a free agent,
Speaker 1: and as a free agent, I can go wherever I
Speaker 1: want to go.
Speaker 2: Fine.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason be it, he had grown board of winning.
Speaker 1: I mean he said, you just want to play high
Speaker 1: level basketball? Can you play any high level than the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors and going and being three NBA finals
Speaker 1: you win to probably would have won a third had
Speaker 1: he not gotten injured. So where are you gonna go
Speaker 1: and play higher level than that? So who are you
Speaker 1: gonna go play with? Other than Lebron or at that
Speaker 1: time Lebron and Lebron and Katie and step would thought
Speaker 1: of as the best players in the NBA with Hard
Speaker 1: and falling up under that. So now who are gonna
Speaker 1: go play with? Joel Ebi, Nicole Yoki? Now where can
Speaker 1: he go?
Speaker 2: Now? I don't know where he can go.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he outruns because he had four years.
Speaker 1: The first year we're gonna disregard that he was rehabbing,
Speaker 1: but he had three years and he didn't come close.
Speaker 1: But it's not because of him, right, you know the
Speaker 1: stuff that went down in Brooklyn, he was there. He
Speaker 1: did his thing, right, you know, he but we give
Speaker 1: him credit, But we give him credit for with the
Speaker 1: Golden State. But that's what I'm saying. We can't say
Speaker 1: if he loses, it's not because of him. But when
Speaker 1: Golden State won the titles, it was because of him.
Speaker 1: But it was because of him White. But why can't
Speaker 1: he win on his own Why can't he win other
Speaker 1: than Golden State? The that's that's I think that's the
Speaker 1: I think that's the question. Gil people want to know
Speaker 1: if if it was him in Golden State, why.
Speaker 2: Can't he do replicate? What? Why can't he take what
Speaker 2: he learned and take it somewhere else?
Speaker 1: Because he was he he he was a single player
Speaker 1: coming to a team atmosphere. He was plugging playing. Now
Speaker 1: he has to build a team around him where he
Speaker 1: can just adjust to one person adjust Now when he
Speaker 1: tried to create a team, everyone has.
Speaker 2: To adjust to everything.
Speaker 1: We can talk about how Kevin Durant going to Golden
Speaker 1: State was a bad thing. It was the best thing
Speaker 1: that the league has ever seen, and they do not
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: Since Magic and Bird, what was.
Speaker 1: The best duo going against each other in the championship
Speaker 1: Lebron versus k D. Yeah, but Lebron versus KD, not
Speaker 1: Lebron versus KD. Steph dre bardy Clay.
Speaker 2: The best, the best small forwards in the game.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why this wasn't looked at like
Speaker 1: two Titans, the best player in the world versus the
Speaker 1: second best player in the world. Right one called himself,
Speaker 1: I'm the best score in the world versus the best player.
Speaker 1: You had two Titans playing against each other, and we
Speaker 1: spent our time talking about We spent our time talking
Speaker 1: about Katie leaving, not realizing what we was witnessing.
Speaker 2: We ain't got no problem with him, leave it now.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, we was witnessing that Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: And like when we all talk about Kobe, the one
Speaker 1: thing that we didn't get to see is Kobe and
Speaker 1: Lebron in the championship again, correct, we got to see
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and Lebron go.
Speaker 2: Face to face. Right, we got the Magic and Bird.
Speaker 1: But we're never going to acknowledge this because we was
Speaker 1: upset that he took the easy the easy way out right.
Speaker 1: And but I think the thing is when we look
Speaker 1: at Magic and Bird, magic Handkaree Bird had Michale, he
Speaker 1: had Worthy, he had Perish, they had Byron Scott, they
Speaker 1: had dj Or you know. So it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you got for Hall of Famers, we got for Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers. Okay, you got a coach that's that's going
Speaker 1: to the hall. We got one that's going to the hall.
Speaker 1: So I think everybody looked at it as as an
Speaker 1: even matchup. I don't think anybody thought that the way
Speaker 1: that Khalimity, even though it was Kyrie and Lebron was
Speaker 1: gonna be able to beat Golden State with Steph Clay,
Speaker 1: k D and Draymond, that wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: No, I thought, and I think that. I think that's
Speaker 2: what that's.
Speaker 1: What the You know, when k D and and and
Speaker 1: and and Lebron locked horns in Miami and OKC, you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, Serge Obaka and and uh Chris Bosh,
Speaker 1: we got Russ d Wade and now k D and
Speaker 1: Lebron and they had to guard each other. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they had to guardian. But that was a great
Speaker 1: match up. But you know, it was young. It was
Speaker 1: young versus a veteran. And then but when that Golden
Speaker 1: State Cleveland Cavaliers series got, because you know it was
Speaker 1: it was gonna be between those two. I wish after
Speaker 1: they wanted, after Cleveland wanted and Golden State got Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: I thought Cleveland should have made a move.
Speaker 2: No, it don't matter. You should have known you was
Speaker 2: gonna be outgunned. Who you gonna give up.
Speaker 1: First of all, who wanted to come to Cleveland? That
Speaker 1: was the problem. While Lebron got up out of there
Speaker 1: or another facts, But at this point looked like j R.
Speaker 1: Smith was my web. He was Mike Klay Thompson. Right,
Speaker 1: you know Clay is averaging twenty one, Yes, j R.
Speaker 1: Smith averaging thirteen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So right, it was really.
Speaker 2: It was really out matched.
Speaker 1: So from there they should have been in tune with
Speaker 1: the game and said, Okay, we might need to upgrade
Speaker 1: a little bit more.
Speaker 2: We're not good enough.
Speaker 1: To try to go back to back right first name,
Speaker 1: last name said Gil Gil was a great addition, Shannon.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you said Katie and Kyrie will
Speaker 1: potentially play together when they were seeing at the All
Speaker 1: Star Game talking Katie last out said.
Speaker 2: It was some bs they joined. They joined.
Speaker 1: I just said, I remember, I said, look and I
Speaker 1: tried and I played him a compliment, I said, kat
Speaker 1: joining Golden State was like Johnny Gill joining New Edition.
Speaker 1: Johnny Gil could out sing them all. He know the
Speaker 1: outstanding career Bobby Brown had. We know what Ralph Transvat did.
Speaker 1: We knew what bell Bill devout ended up doing once
Speaker 1: they broke up, but none of them singularly could out
Speaker 1: sing Johnny Gill. And the reason why Johnny Gill wasn't
Speaker 1: accepted he didn't grow.
Speaker 2: Up in Boston and Roxbury.
Speaker 1: Yeah, facts, k D was never gonna be And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they didn't like him, but Kate, but Steph
Speaker 1: Clay Draymond came there, They was birthed, they grew up there.
Speaker 2: Although k D.
Speaker 1: Was k D, it wasn't going to be accepted. He
Speaker 1: called me, Oh, this you don't know what you're talking about. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's an ignorant thing to say, lady. He get on
Speaker 1: the podcast, like I was never gonna be accepted, like
Speaker 1: Katie's death because.
Speaker 2: Bro I said, I said that. But you know we
Speaker 2: delusion on sometimes, you know what I mean? Come on,
Speaker 2: just like in our relationship.
Speaker 1: Hey, our boys are the first one to tell us, Hey,
Speaker 1: your girl cheating on you.
Speaker 2: Ah nah. She never died that. She ain't like that.
Speaker 2: She ain't like that, right gout to found out she
Speaker 2: just liked that. Yes, And that's and that's.
Speaker 1: The same that's the same thing. Like we don't want to.
Speaker 2: Believe right that it is this and we have to find.
Speaker 1: Out the hard way. He had to find out on
Speaker 1: that court when he's.
Speaker 2: Asking for the ball. He had to sit there and
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 1: Back and forth with Draymond Green, and Draymond Green had
Speaker 1: to let him know.
Speaker 2: We was here before you. We don't need you. That
Speaker 2: hurt it did? Oh we want to finish that season. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I can come to work knowing
Speaker 1: that you really believe that deep down inside?
Speaker 2: Why amos three?
Speaker 1: People will tell you the truth, Gil Drunks, kids and
Speaker 1: angry people, they gonna tell you the truth. Now see,
Speaker 1: they'll blame it on I just said thing out of anger.
Speaker 1: So I was drunk. I didn't know what I was
Speaker 1: thinking talking about. And kids, you know they say kids
Speaker 1: say the darnest thing. So I got a way to
Speaker 1: brush off either one of those.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and I'm gonna say something and
Speaker 1: tell me what you think. If you notice, Draymond Green's
Speaker 1: behavior is always when he thinks someone is about to
Speaker 1: replace him as a member of the Big Three. When
Speaker 1: KD came, it's about to be Kad Stephan Clay, he
Speaker 1: says what he says Jordan Poole all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's about to be Jordan Poole, Stephan Clay.
Speaker 2: He does what he does. Now, it's gonna be very
Speaker 2: very interesting to see how they handle Commando because does
Speaker 2: that rough with dra because.
Speaker 1: Draymond like, I'm a member of the Big three, and
Speaker 1: Nothing's going to upset that because that's just Look. I
Speaker 1: could be totally wrong, but there's something to be said
Speaker 1: for Draymond and the way Draymond has behaved with KD
Speaker 1: with Jordan Pooh. Now, I don't know, if anything, I
Speaker 1: have not heard anything about Kaminga, but I did hear
Speaker 1: what Minga said because hard to kind of play my
Speaker 1: game because I got to make sure the OG's get
Speaker 1: the ball. So how do I do what I need
Speaker 1: to do to show what I can do and still
Speaker 1: you know, show difference to the Ogs.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be very interesting moving forward. So Timbo,
Speaker 2: what you think?
Speaker 1: You know, you know there might be a little territorial
Speaker 1: you know thing going on with Draymond, right, and you
Speaker 1: know the one thing you don't want to do is
Speaker 1: you don't want to be forgotten, right, And you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes I think, you know, it seemed like the more
Speaker 1: his game is dwindling, down the more he's acting out. Yes,
Speaker 1: he knows his time is coming and he's going to
Speaker 1: be put on that bench. And that's when all the
Speaker 1: people who don't like him are going to be.
Speaker 2: Able to laugh. Right, I think he's ready for that laughter.
Speaker 2: The four rings, the four rings don't help that ego
Speaker 2: at that moment in time. They don't win.
Speaker 1: Whether they don't win, I don't believe they win any
Speaker 1: of those titles without Draymond. No, but being benched, them
Speaker 1: four rings don't. They don't mean nothing anymore. I can't
Speaker 1: see him on your finger with you on the bench. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now tell me about it. But you can put him
Speaker 1: on it at the conference where you at the podium.
Speaker 1: But right at that point in time, and now you
Speaker 1: give everybody because everybody, oh Draymond is the king of
Speaker 1: the triple single and they're saying all these things. I
Speaker 1: think he's a phenomenal player, I do. I mean I
Speaker 1: think his physicality. Do I think he goes over the line. Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Do.
Speaker 1: I think he's done some things that he didn't need
Speaker 1: to do. Absolutely. But the problem is is that they
Speaker 1: didn't check it before. I can't wait to My dog
Speaker 1: is two years old before I correct him about potting
Speaker 1: in the house, and then all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: potted in the house again. I'm like, what are you
Speaker 1: doing When you didn't correct him when he was a puppy.
Speaker 1: You let Draymond get out of control. And so now
Speaker 1: when you don't win, you accepted it when you were winning.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: You you accepted Draymond's behavior when you was winning. And
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer, as Mike Shanahan told me in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, you never accepted anything in a win,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have a loss. So if Draymond's behavior is
Speaker 1: unacceptable when you're losing, it should have been unacceptable when
Speaker 1: you're winning.
Speaker 2: Because when they say winning masks a lot, it does.
Speaker 1: It masked the undercurrent of what was going on in
Speaker 1: Golden State that were just in the moment things don't
Speaker 1: go the way that they think it should.
Speaker 2: Draymond pops his head about the water. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's gonna be real interesting because he
Speaker 2: was the vocal point. He was the heartbeat.
Speaker 1: And when they decide to say, all right, Kaminga, this
Speaker 1: is your spot, is the heartbeat gonna stop beating? I
Speaker 1: think this is one of those things where for the
Speaker 1: betterment of the team, he's gonna have to pull a
Speaker 1: rust and he's gonna have to look around and say,
Speaker 1: all right, I did all I can do. It's time
Speaker 1: for me to take a back seat and give all
Speaker 1: my energy to Kaminga and then I can come in back.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to pull a U D right as
Speaker 2: long as he as long as he wants his name called.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the gain Draymond Green, the team
Speaker 1: dies because he don't have it like he used to.
Speaker 1: He's not as fast, strong, right, he still got the
Speaker 1: smart the IQ level is very very very high, right,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to sacrifice and realize the Big
Speaker 1: three is falling off. Yeah, you're gonna have it. Ain't
Speaker 1: really no big two because Clay is not the same.
Speaker 1: Clay can't get first. But Clay ended up going to
Speaker 1: the bench in the fourth quarter. That'll never been I mean,
Speaker 1: and and look as we start the age and Clay
Speaker 1: had two devastating injuries for promison Lam believe he had
Speaker 1: a mki Lees and an acl and he had him
Speaker 1: in his thirties and commend him for coming back and
Speaker 1: playing at the level. But he's not the same step
Speaker 1: I'm excuse me, the same Clay Draymond is starting to
Speaker 1: get older. He's not the same, he doesn't move the same,
Speaker 1: but the behavior. See Draymond needs to understand the toleration
Speaker 1: until they.
Speaker 2: Can replace you. Yeah, and they tolerated his behavior.
Speaker 1: And because they couldn't replace you now and at some
Speaker 1: point in time, even though you were the heartbeat and
Speaker 1: you mean so much to this team, seven points five
Speaker 1: rebounds in two, three or fourth, siss ain't gonna cut it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you it's a it's I feel
Speaker 1: bad for Steve Kerr because you don't want to mention
Speaker 1: because Kaminga hasn't taken this spot.
Speaker 2: Correct. But with Kamingo on the floor, he's just a
Speaker 2: different breed of a guy. Right.
Speaker 1: He gives you something that you guys didn't have, right, Right,
Speaker 1: a guy who has bounced at the little right, he
Speaker 1: got his own one on one move. He can create
Speaker 1: his own shot. He's very aggressive steel, which is surprising.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been there for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: You would think he would have lost his aggression, but
Speaker 1: he's still assion he has the confidence that he can't
Speaker 1: be stopped, right, you need that to play out. That
Speaker 1: is going to be a tough decision for Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: to say, Draymond, you're starting. I wouldn't. I wouldn't right.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Yodre, You're gonna have to come up
Speaker 1: with the B. I want to see what he's been
Speaker 1: playing very well since you've been on the bench.
Speaker 2: You know, let's let's let's give me a couple more games.
Speaker 1: You know what, Gil, The problem with Golden State is
Speaker 1: that a lot of these problems that Andrew Wiggins isn't
Speaker 1: playing well at the same time Klay Thompson isn't playing
Speaker 1: well at the same time Draymond Green has suspended. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you kind of got you kind of got like
Speaker 1: a little mini hurricane, a little many earthquake, and a
Speaker 1: little mini tornado all.
Speaker 2: Together and in one spot.
Speaker 1: And the problem is, and this is why being the
Speaker 1: third option feels amazing, because nobody's paying attention to you,
Speaker 1: No old one, No one is talking about Wiggins playing horrible.
Speaker 2: And he bit and he's been good and terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and and and it's it's weird like when you're that
Speaker 2: third option when you don't have no.
Speaker 1: Pressure on you, you get to go out there and
Speaker 1: be trash without any pushback.
Speaker 2: Right, No one's going to write about you, No one cares. Right.
Speaker 2: So the fact that Draymond is being blamed.
Speaker 1: For what's going on in Golden State, it kind of
Speaker 1: let us know how important he was then to the winning. Yes, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And people that don't believe that he was important to
Speaker 1: women winning is in that fact that you don't really
Speaker 1: like draymona you don't really understand the importance of what
Speaker 1: he brought to that ball club.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just can't measure everything.
Speaker 1: By points, rebounds and assists because he does a lot
Speaker 1: of the dirty work. Everybody can't be the bank president.
Speaker 1: Somebody got to be the security guard. Somebody got to
Speaker 1: be the cashier. Somebody got to be the custodia. Somebody
Speaker 1: got to clean that place up at night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he stops light security, all right.
Speaker 1: Arvernham calls our cam reddish and Jared Vanderbilt can't be
Speaker 1: confused with can't be confused with the ball Ham said,
Speaker 1: I was just I'm just not I'm not I just
Speaker 1: think not allowing it to be stacked to stagnate us
Speaker 1: if they're trying to play off. Cam got to step
Speaker 1: up with confidence or eat up space on the drive,
Speaker 1: collapse the defense. Once he touches the bank drive, find
Speaker 1: the open man. Same thank for vandal ball. Hears him
Speaker 1: and he just can't hold it. Be confused.
Speaker 2: He called them out and not himself. You put them Sorry,
Speaker 2: motherfucker's in the game.
Speaker 1: Nobody told you to sub a dude who averages one
Speaker 1: point five and put him.
Speaker 2: As a starter.
Speaker 1: Right, that's that show, like when you're gonna take responsibility
Speaker 1: for the lineups you putting out, like you have the
Speaker 1: the Lakers starting five the way it was, they were
Speaker 1: only averaging eighty two points as a starting five, which
Speaker 1: is low.
Speaker 2: Right, you sub Lebron and Ad averaging fifty.
Speaker 1: So the rest of your team that, like the rest
Speaker 1: of your starters, is only putting up there. That is
Speaker 1: a low starting five. Eighty two points is low. Now
Speaker 1: you sub in Van and take out Russ, which pushes
Speaker 1: you down to sixth. It's the eight points a game,
Speaker 1: just to show you how bad that is. The worst
Speaker 1: team in the NBA, the Detroit Pistons, they're averaging sixty nine.
Speaker 1: You know, they're averaging seventy three points as a starting five.
Speaker 1: So the Detroit Pistons starting five is better than the
Speaker 1: Lakers starting five right now, and per point production, what.
Speaker 2: What defense are you looking for?
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody you need to be in order for them
Speaker 1: to justify the defense is like, oh, they're supposed to
Speaker 1: be defensive guys. They need to be Dennis Johnson. They
Speaker 1: need to be Alvin Robertson, they need to be they
Speaker 1: need to be Dennis Rodman of somebody, somebody on the
Speaker 1: ball like that.
Speaker 2: But you can't. You cannot give me one point.
Speaker 1: Let's just say Vando gives us two, three, and cam
Speaker 1: Reddi gives us. Say come on, bro, that's not enough.
Speaker 1: Eleven points and we got got and you're playing twenty
Speaker 1: five to thirty minutes three and eight points is not enough.
Speaker 1: It's just not you got three got Like a d
Speaker 1: is a defensive player, Lebron is defensive player, but he's
Speaker 1: thirty nine. I got enough defense to put all offense, right.
Speaker 1: I have guys who can block shots to put enough
Speaker 1: offense out there.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This is crazy because their losses, they scored ninety four
Speaker 1: points one on one, ninety four, one on nine, one
Speaker 1: oh eight, one ten, one eleven one fifteen. You're not
Speaker 1: you can't score right, you're not moving fast enough with
Speaker 1: the units you have. You know what, this reminds me
Speaker 1: of what he did right here reminds me of the
Speaker 1: two thousand. It was a two, is it the twenty twenty?
Speaker 1: The two thousand?
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty Clippers team where they.
Speaker 1: Use this is the deepest team. They got the deepest bench. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the deepest bench. You'll start in five? Was
Speaker 1: sorry at shit right starting five? You had what could
Speaker 1: you break? Yeah, cause you break, you bring your sweed
Speaker 1: low and trails, and they they played. They playing more
Speaker 1: minutes at reserves than you started.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. Pat Kawaian PG, you.
Speaker 1: Got forty points coming off the bench with two players.
Speaker 1: Of course your bench is deep. So your bench was
Speaker 1: number one in the NBA in scoring. You're starting five
Speaker 1: was twenty fifth. You're averaging sixty nine points because you
Speaker 1: got Zubab, Pat, Bev and Mo who's averaging seven, eight
Speaker 1: and five.
Speaker 2: You're not deep. You got four players. Five, You got
Speaker 2: four players. That's it. You're just trying to trick the
Speaker 2: two of them come off the bench. Yeah, you're trying
Speaker 2: to take two starters. Put them off the bench.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got this this deep team, because you
Speaker 1: know in the NBA, it's hard to blow a team
Speaker 1: out in the first five six minutes, right, so you
Speaker 1: know at the six minute mark you can sub in
Speaker 1: your two and then get the rolling and let these
Speaker 1: guys get a little bit of minutes.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh you did, good boys, Now go sit down and
Speaker 1: let the real players get in. I hate, I hate,
Speaker 1: I hate lineups like that, right, you trying, you're just
Speaker 1: trying to trick like your team is good, but knowing
Speaker 1: damn well, if a team got old note and oh
Speaker 1: in the first one minute of the game, get you
Speaker 1: all glasses out, tread get your classes in, right, and
Speaker 1: that happens. That happened a couple of times. But I
Speaker 1: have to have a balanced team. And the fact that
Speaker 1: you have Ruy, Austin and Russell coming off the bench, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we got you know, forty some points coming
Speaker 1: up the bench.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got forty something coming up the bench.
Speaker 1: But you're starting five is only scoring sixty points, right,
Speaker 1: you got Lebron James and in Ad scoring fifty, and
Speaker 1: you got the other three guys they're putting in ten
Speaker 1: Like the stop stop these dumb ass lineups. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: and hair is the thing, and you tell me these guys,
Speaker 1: but they still can't stop dribble penetration. Guys will still
Speaker 1: getting pass vando, you're still getting past camp and they're
Speaker 1: kicking the ball to the corner for wide open threes.
Speaker 1: So if if you're supposed to be a defensive guy,
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna get hair, if I'm out an
Speaker 1: offensive guy, and this is why I approached it a
Speaker 1: gil when I played football, I've got to be more
Speaker 1: of an asset in the passing game than I am
Speaker 1: a liability in the run game. Yes, So in other words,
Speaker 1: if you are a liab, you've got to be a.
Speaker 2: Tremendous asset in the defensive end.
Speaker 1: If you're a liability on the offensive end, if you're
Speaker 1: a basketball player, and right now you're a liability on both.
Speaker 1: So if basically you're becoming unplayable because I don't know
Speaker 1: how you play, guy's gonna give me two points and
Speaker 1: then he's letting guys get passing and I got to
Speaker 1: slyly ad and the guy's passing the ball and the
Speaker 1: guy's laying it up or some help gotta come.
Speaker 2: And he's kicking it to the corner. Rob, What are
Speaker 2: you doing?
Speaker 1: I never, I never understood that, And it's weird because
Speaker 1: I would love to ask a defensive coach why they
Speaker 1: put these lineups in.
Speaker 2: I'm an offensive player. I bread offense, right.
Speaker 1: The worst player that I wanted to see was so
Speaker 1: one like me that I had to guard you. Right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you want to face me Patrick Beverly's whoa, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's trouble for you, homeboy, because you're only You're here
Speaker 1: to play defense, not offense. So I'm resting half the time.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you my all. That means it's like boxing, right,
Speaker 1: I get to punch you, but you got your hands tied.
Speaker 2: I get to punch on you while your hands sighed.
Speaker 1: The fact that you you gonna take three four shots
Speaker 1: a game?
Speaker 2: Why am I paying attention to you?
Speaker 1: That is the easiest night for me because there's no
Speaker 1: way you're gonna stop me from taking twenty thirty shots.
Speaker 1: But I don't have to give you no effort on
Speaker 1: the defense I get, I get to say, and the
Speaker 1: worst player I wanted to play with someone scoring like
Speaker 1: me because he's embarrassing me now right, So if I'm
Speaker 1: playing against the Lakers, and I'm Trey Young. Hell y'all,
Speaker 1: I want to play against Cam all day. You ain't
Speaker 1: embarrassing me at you ain't doing nothing. You just get
Speaker 1: to play defense all day. And I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they put these lineups out there, because you're you're helping
Speaker 1: the offensive team, because you're you're handicapping yourself. You're playing
Speaker 1: three on five on offense or two on five on offense. Right,
Speaker 1: and you're not good enough. The rules aren't made. My
Speaker 1: offense of book is one hundred times better than any
Speaker 1: rules you can put in. And that's the difference in
Speaker 1: today's game. Back then, it was sixty forty defense to offense. Right,
Speaker 1: you know, you dribbled a certain way. You only had
Speaker 1: a certain amount of moves. Now the moves today, I
Speaker 1: can hold it a little bit, I can do either
Speaker 1: my creer. So now it's basically ninety to ten. There's
Speaker 1: no rule they can put in that hand checking all
Speaker 1: that them to what people talk, ain't no hand checking
Speaker 1: that can stop these moves today and p in progress
Speaker 1: that is that is that is trash, all of them.
Speaker 2: It was trash when it was in and you got soap.
Speaker 1: I mean guys can shoot the ball better, and guys
Speaker 1: can handle the ball better. You got two or three
Speaker 1: guys on every team that can make you look stupid
Speaker 1: handling the ball. Everybody got that. Everybody got that pool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody got their heads. Okay, I'm going to and one.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys we see that? Everybody doing that?
Speaker 1: I mean guys like who the who the l you?
Speaker 1: Where you with that move from? So the likelihood if
Speaker 1: you breaking somebody? Oh he's a defensive stopper, he goes, Man,
Speaker 1: them guys are too good, They too.
Speaker 2: Skilled too that it's it's you you.
Speaker 1: If I want to hunt a lion, I need a lion,
Speaker 1: because zel ain't going.
Speaker 2: He ain't going. He lunched me.
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, exactly, He's lunched me. It's weird, right,
Speaker 1: d Loo said he wanted to be Derek White. We
Speaker 1: all laughed, Please be Derek White.
Speaker 2: God damn it.
Speaker 1: I beg you to be Dereck White now because Derrick
Speaker 1: White didn't want to just be a liability. I'm just
Speaker 1: a defensive player. Right there, you go in Boston, now, right,
Speaker 1: you got you know, you got the unicorn over there,
Speaker 1: which added extra offense. Right, Yes, you would have you
Speaker 1: would have thought that Derek White would be more of
Speaker 1: a defensive player because you don't need to score. He
Speaker 1: upped his scoring up. Yes, Yes, and that's what the Lake,
Speaker 1: that's what the Lakers need, d lo. I need you
Speaker 1: to up your production, not doc ress right right then
Speaker 1: you put up and up not because if you put
Speaker 1: pressure on the opposing team, I mean maybe it takes
Speaker 1: some of that zap out of them and they're not
Speaker 1: able to.
Speaker 2: Give you that work. Listen when you when you're trying
Speaker 2: to score.
Speaker 1: My my, my one thing that I always went into
Speaker 1: games when when I had to play against AI, when
Speaker 1: I had to play against Steve Francis, when I had
Speaker 1: to play against Maulberry, I'm coming at you first. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come at you so hard that it makes you
Speaker 1: not want to play offense, thinking that if you don't shoot,
Speaker 1: I don't shoot. NBA players really think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: But if I don't shoot against him, he won't shoot
Speaker 1: against me. Okay, that's your fault. And what I did
Speaker 1: when we start off the games and I was playing
Speaker 1: against the high level guards, the Steve Nashes, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to give them buckets early to set the tone.
Speaker 2: I can't let Steve.
Speaker 1: Nash come and pick me to death. If you look
Speaker 1: at my games with Steve Nash, I made him a score.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at our matchups against Steve Nash,
Speaker 1: he wasn't having fifteen to seventeen.
Speaker 2: As sists thirty forty.
Speaker 1: Like, you're gonna have to match me point fer point
Speaker 1: if you want to keep up, You're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to try to sit there and get your guys.
Speaker 1: I'm scoring too fast. Makes you want to score too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, I gotta take
Speaker 1: some of that zapp Like my grandma just say, okay,
Speaker 1: y'all stay out all night.
Speaker 2: You're going to church in the morning.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you not. You not fit the lag back there?
Speaker 1: If they ate, Oh uh uh, I'm gonna give you bucket.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get this. You gotta make them work, and
Speaker 1: uh that's not happening. So it's gonna be very interesting
Speaker 1: to see what is starting line out look like tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The Laker players are reportedly frustrated with Darvin Ham's decision
Speaker 1: about starting lineup and their role. Frustration with players rolls
Speaker 1: and fluctuating minutes uncertainly regarding their roles and inconsistency and
Speaker 1: playing time. The communication gap between player between coaching staff
Speaker 1: and players appears to be widening, with players expressing confusion
Speaker 1: over the mixed messages they received. Reports say criticism has
Speaker 1: been directed at Ham's lineup choices and rotation, particularly perceived
Speaker 1: inconsistency and handling struggling struggling players. Some players, like Austin Reeves,
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell, Ruy Hachimura reportedly face shorter leashes than when
Speaker 1: incounter difficulties, while other players or in France, Cam Reddish,
Speaker 1: enjoy longer leashes despite struggles on the court. We saw
Speaker 1: that they had no problem putting Austin Reeves on the bench.
Speaker 1: Remember he's struggling to start the season. Yeah, well, we
Speaker 1: talked the All Star and you know, we felt it
Speaker 1: would be bad for him to come out the bench.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about the mother guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but him was a defensive player, I think, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know he was on the bench when I
Speaker 1: was playing. He didn't get in the game, but most
Speaker 1: likely he was a defensive player. One of those guys
Speaker 1: that hustled it and that's his mindset. Yeah, right, you
Speaker 1: got a little bit of in you and you looking
Speaker 1: for it on the court, like these guys played the
Speaker 1: right way. Well, it's not the right way if they're
Speaker 1: not winning. Right, of course, Austin, Reeves, Rue and D'Angelo
Speaker 1: would be mad. They're your offense. So seeing this two
Speaker 1: or three shots, you put them on a bench. These
Speaker 1: guys don't even take three shots and they're playing right,
Speaker 1: So now you got Now what ends up happening is
Speaker 1: you start you start looking at the guys as enemies
Speaker 1: instead of teammates. Yeah, okay, right, you start footing the
Speaker 1: division inside the locker room because they're getting minutes that
Speaker 1: they haven't earned.
Speaker 2: Right, he took three shots, he did.
Speaker 1: This, and he plays thirty minutes, And now what does
Speaker 1: that do to someone like D'Angelo? Right, Oh, if I
Speaker 1: don't do nothing, if I don't shoot, if I don't
Speaker 1: make no mistakes, I play longer.
Speaker 2: Right, Because that's what he's doing with this guy. Right.
Speaker 1: The fact that at this point in the season, you're
Speaker 1: still having fluctuation problems, letting you know, you don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on right now, you're still trying to find
Speaker 1: stuff instead of building on that that that championship mid season,
Speaker 1: in season mid season, whatever the season beginning of the season, right,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be building competent that was supposed to
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: And take it right, you have Rui, Rui and di'angelo.
Speaker 1: Should be starting, or Reeves and Cam and Cam and
Speaker 1: Prince Bo should be started. No North Van Doo, No
Speaker 1: hell no no, those three, two of those three should
Speaker 1: not be started. Did I didn't even I didn't even
Speaker 1: look at him as a starter. That that that that
Speaker 1: that looks like a friend hook up. You lost the bet.
Speaker 1: He looked like you lost the bet. Like all right, off,
Speaker 1: you know, like I put him in right right, He's
Speaker 1: not He shouldn't even be playing minutes right now.
Speaker 2: They weren't warned, they weren't earned. Right.
Speaker 1: You can't just say all right, we're gonna go from
Speaker 1: averaging one and put me in. And I'm sitting there,
Speaker 1: I'm also like, wait a minute, Matte, I'm averaging fifteen
Speaker 1: points a game, fifteen and you ain't even me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't thinking about me as a starter. What's wrong
Speaker 1: with you? That happens?
Speaker 2: Like you're getting minutes. Think about it.
Speaker 1: You're getting minutes that you didn't deserve, and you think
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it.
Speaker 2: No, because I'm watching.
Speaker 1: There's not one time that Jared Vanderbilt a shot a
Speaker 1: shot outside and it's done two minute that I actually
Speaker 1: thought it was going in be I'm watching on television
Speaker 1: or I'm actually sitting at the game.
Speaker 2: Not one time does he shoot a shot and I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 1: So even when he laid the ball, even when when
Speaker 1: he'd like driving the ball or you go flip it
Speaker 1: up left handed.
Speaker 2: I like, so, what is this man doing? No defense?
Speaker 1: Looking at Lebron, looking at Anthony Davis, I got the
Speaker 1: night off.
Speaker 2: Nah, No, your job. Your job isn't the funnel.
Speaker 1: Your job is to d up because you give us
Speaker 1: nothing offensively. Like I said, you've got whatever it is.
Speaker 1: You got to be a bigger asset than a liability.
Speaker 1: So he has to be a bigger asset on the
Speaker 1: defensive end, because we know he's a liability on the
Speaker 1: offensive end.
Speaker 2: But if he gives us nothing on either, now, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's no good.
Speaker 1: If you wasn't playing him at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 1: there was a reason. Don't play his ass now because
Speaker 1: you feel you need to change shit up. No, you
Speaker 1: need to get everybody thinking the right way. You need
Speaker 1: to get everybody in tune with what their game is.
Speaker 1: You think d Angelo is coming off the bench to
Speaker 1: this guy and you think he's happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Cam, You putting Cam on the bench, what's
Speaker 1: that gonna do? He gonna get he give you five?
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you five coming off the bench, like
Speaker 1: I'm not losing nothing there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: That is something that that that that that bleeds a
Speaker 1: locker room where you're looking at somebody in front of
Speaker 1: you that ain't him, right, so you ain't cheering for him?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You put a guy in that can't shoot the ball.
Speaker 1: He's and I'm sitting here. We sitting here like a
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna play team ball, Like right, you start,
Speaker 1: you start Ruie or Austin, You start Russell or Austin.
Speaker 1: Trust me, their production is gonna get better because you
Speaker 1: that they should have a six, show confidence in them.
Speaker 1: The fact that you don't there shouldn't be. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: be at this place right now. You shouldn't be right
Speaker 1: here right now. This is this is horrible unless unless
Speaker 1: they putting Vandy in because they need to trade him,
Speaker 1: show him he's healthy. That that's the thing. That's the
Speaker 1: thing right there, the fifteen coming up well, and showed
Speaker 1: him he healthy. All right, he heard that. Look at it,
Speaker 1: Look about that.
Speaker 2: Look at him. Tell y'all he liked.
Speaker 1: He liked that car we got, you know, we want
Speaker 1: to get we want to sell it. So I went
Speaker 1: driving it everybody to see his operational Then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go put it right back up to eight steak to
Speaker 1: for sales side then in tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And that's what this play looks like. It looks like.
Speaker 1: They want to They want to show that because there's
Speaker 1: no way as a coach you're gonna take a guy
Speaker 1: who's averaging one point finding insert him in the starting
Speaker 1: lineup and he don't even get no minutes.
Speaker 2: All play is.
Speaker 1: I want to show him off so I can package him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know Vando was hurt at the start of
Speaker 1: the season. I think he had a foot injury or
Speaker 1: he has some kind of injury to start the season.
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, man ay they got to get
Speaker 1: more production.
Speaker 2: They need more.
Speaker 1: They need more than five points three points two points
Speaker 1: from him. Taurrian Prince is like here the mess, but okay,
Speaker 1: he does. I mean, look, more times than not, I
Speaker 1: feel come with him shooting the three ball. But like
Speaker 1: I said, we don't need all three of them.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm sorry. I come from I come from a time.
Speaker 1: Where I did shoot half our threes. Right, we shot
Speaker 1: fourteen threes a game. I shot seven of those. There's
Speaker 1: no way in the game where I'm playing on the
Speaker 1: court where he gets to take thirteen threes.
Speaker 2: Who tore your friends? Hell no, you'd have been seeing
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting this mofug out of here. Coach, ain't
Speaker 1: no way out of gat. Hey, hey, what was ZU doing?
Speaker 1: If this is not your job? If you're not sitting
Speaker 1: in there, like, what do you think about ray Allen
Speaker 1: didn't shoot these many threes? No, right, you're not Steph
Speaker 1: or Clay Kad don't even shoot these type of threes.
Speaker 1: So for you to shoot these type of threes, you
Speaker 1: better be sitting in the practice facility or the gym
Speaker 1: shooting thousands of shots. And if they get mad that
Speaker 1: I said they shouldn't be shooting, I would bet any
Speaker 1: type of money if we shoot a hundred threes right now,
Speaker 1: I will blow them out. You are you are a
Speaker 1: shoot guy that curly. You're talking about those three guys
Speaker 1: that are shooting on the Lakers right now, you get them.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even come on them. I'll shoot one hand
Speaker 1: against them. The Lakers, Oh, they want the one hand.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be. You're gonna have to be
Speaker 1: a real shooter for me to eat footbath my hands
Speaker 1: on the ball.
Speaker 2: I take three hundred shots a day.
Speaker 1: Still, I take three hundred shots, and I'll wake up
Speaker 1: four thirty five and I go out there and take
Speaker 1: my shots. It's just in me, so I can't look.
Speaker 1: I can't see a player, and I'm sitting here, like,
Speaker 1: what do you do when you in practice?
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 1: Are you working on your shot? How are you not marksmen?
Speaker 1: You know you got one job. One one job. That
Speaker 1: means if practice starts at eleven, hey, you cam, you prints,
Speaker 1: get in the gym eight o'clock, you shoot nothing but
Speaker 1: threes from these spots from eight to eleven. Then we
Speaker 1: have ten practice. Then after take one more hour of
Speaker 1: shooting more threes, and then that needs you to come
Speaker 1: back later on tonight and shooting more threes. That should
Speaker 1: be your job. You should be a marksman. When I
Speaker 1: pass it, to you. I everybody should be turning around.
Speaker 1: We all turn around, put our hands because we know
Speaker 1: that's in. But what are you doing going to you?
Speaker 1: Just coming in practicing, get fifty fifty something shots up
Speaker 1: and think you good?
Speaker 2: Think you golden?
Speaker 1: Nah? Man, Like there was a year where I took
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand shots in the summer because the calculation was, shit,
Speaker 1: I'm only shooting about thirty some percent. For me to
Speaker 1: go up another percent, I gotta shoot about one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand shots to move up one percent. I shoot one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand shots. That's how the calculation wins. When you
Speaker 1: look at the Steph Curry's and stuff like that, man
Speaker 1: they shooting.
Speaker 2: I watched Steph.
Speaker 1: I watched Steph take four hundred shots in twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2: Moving and that was the warm up. Wow, Warner, that
Speaker 2: was just to show the.
Speaker 1: Crowd this is what I do. Ended that and then
Speaker 1: worked out for two hours. So he took about fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred shots that day.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: The mayor of fact that you know, Steph has to
Speaker 1: be because Steph has to like, it's different for him
Speaker 1: because he's a perpetual motion. So there's very few chances,
Speaker 1: there are very few times that he's getting a wide
Speaker 1: open three. Yeah, coming off a pig, he's back hutting
Speaker 1: and he's flaring, but he's still constantly moving. I don't
Speaker 1: better look here. It's something when you get tired. Now,
Speaker 1: fatigue will make cowards of us. All for him to
Speaker 1: be able to shoot that shot after you know, playing
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty mint, Okay, start the game, we get
Speaker 1: a gill, but he moving like that throughout the entirety
Speaker 1: of the game, and in the fourth.
Speaker 2: Quarter, he's in impeccable shape. Right. That that that that
Speaker 2: shape separates him.
Speaker 1: Like when we talk about the greatest shooter, right, if
Speaker 1: we told everyone to shoot one hundred shots, right, one
Speaker 1: hundred threes, right, it could be close from Yes, I
Speaker 1: believe that Charay Allen a Reggie mil REI Miller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he's we can say he's the best shooter.
Speaker 2: He's the best shooter because he was the best conditioned.
Speaker 1: So his first quarter looked like his fourth quarter while
Speaker 1: the rest of those shooters were tiring out.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's at a ninety.
Speaker 1: You know, stamina level, so he was consistent throughout, So
Speaker 1: he looked like he was the better shooter because he's
Speaker 1: in shape the whole thing versus I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thirty minutes and I'm sitting here like, oh, can
Speaker 1: we get some water? And he's that's the key to
Speaker 1: all of it. Being in shape. You be the best
Speaker 1: shape of your life. Like when I say life, I
Speaker 1: mean like you run in the three four miles when
Speaker 1: you don't play the game just to get the extra
Speaker 1: cardio win.
Speaker 2: You have to do a lot of stuff to be great. Right.
Speaker 2: Grizzlies are four and oh with Jah.
Speaker 1: The Grizzlies went six to nineteen with our job because
Speaker 1: he started the season serving that twenty five game suspension.
Speaker 1: They're now four and oh with the Western Conference Player
Speaker 1: of the Week on the court. After pulling off a
Speaker 1: come from behind win over the New Orleans on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: The Memphis Grizzlies trailed by fourteen in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and chipped away at the lead into the final seconds
Speaker 1: of the game.
Speaker 2: Joh did this celebration.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a New Orleans dance called pistols and Bazuka.
Speaker 2: They're separate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what I'm being told now, they're saying it's
Speaker 1: two separate things. They say it's the New Orleans dance
Speaker 1: and it's not the celebration pistols and Berzuka and bazukah.
Speaker 2: I just say that.
Speaker 1: When I was showing, I was saying, you know, it's
Speaker 1: the New Orleans dance. It is not pistols in bozuka. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the New Orleans thens that just happened to have.
Speaker 2: Like it makes you.
Speaker 1: It made it like, I know, like he's gonna irritate
Speaker 1: the older group, but it.
Speaker 2: Kind of got a like as a.
Speaker 1: As someone who thrives on being petty, right, he can't
Speaker 1: help himself, right, right, I mean honest, like right now
Speaker 1: without the celebration. I call him Jahwick because that's what
Speaker 1: he reminds me of, like they killed.
Speaker 2: His dog, right, he going through and he going.
Speaker 1: Through teams like they killed this man doll, right, And
Speaker 1: it's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: It's phenomenal what he's doing. It shows you how great
Speaker 2: he is. And he's so and.
Speaker 1: He's young, right, and I know we're gonna nobody want
Speaker 1: to hear.
Speaker 2: Her excuses of he's young, but he is a kid.
Speaker 1: He's in the culture where it's the dance culture, right,
Speaker 1: Like if you look at Westbrook and the dances he
Speaker 1: was doing during those Okay, See he's no different. Just
Speaker 1: the music he listens to got those type.
Speaker 2: Of reactions to it.
Speaker 1: And when he's doing his dunks and he's feeling great,
Speaker 1: that's when he's showing in like this is not coming
Speaker 1: from an angry place. Like where we're looking at what
Speaker 1: he's doing, it's not coming from an angry place. Everything
Speaker 1: he's done is coming when he's actually happy.
Speaker 2: But it's this it's a weird one.
Speaker 1: Because it's the culture when they're dancing and they're doing
Speaker 1: this coming from a happy spot, not an angry spot.
Speaker 1: And I don't think no one's separating the two. They
Speaker 1: just see, oh pistols and he threw the bazooka at
Speaker 1: us right right, and and that's that's gonna be the problem, right.
Speaker 2: And I don't think optics, huh, you know, it's optics.
Speaker 1: You know, in this situation with him, he got suspended
Speaker 1: for gun it was he was you know, he got
Speaker 1: you know, had it one time and he went in
Speaker 1: with the commission and he saw the commission. He never
Speaker 1: put himself in that position again. Then a couple of
Speaker 1: months later he was in that again. I think it's
Speaker 1: just the optics of it. Uh. But like you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the only dance that he know
Speaker 1: how to do have guns add them things on him.
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because as soon as you see that, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, there you go again. He just
Speaker 2: can't you know, you dunk on you.
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just glad that, like I'd rather
Speaker 1: see him still having his mental intact, yeah, versus seeing
Speaker 1: some watered down version.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And as the organization of the Grizzlies, I know, I
Speaker 1: know deep down inside they happy as hell.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: You got one of the future stars of the NBA.
Speaker 1: You have an impact player, you have a player that
Speaker 1: you can sell to your audience. You got a matter
Speaker 1: discounted rate, right, those twenty five games was perfect for
Speaker 1: you to get him for forty million dollars cheaper, right,
Speaker 1: you say forty million dollars with those antics, So in
Speaker 1: your mind you don't care because you got it's like
Speaker 1: getting iverson. It's like you know what I mean, It's
Speaker 1: like getting the I It's like getting the bent lea
Speaker 1: for twenty percent off. Right, You're not gonna complain. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna complain. And and that's and that's what it
Speaker 1: is with joh and you know he's at the he's
Speaker 1: at this this point though, he's at this point where
Speaker 1: it's a god mode thinking my team was so trash
Speaker 1: without right, you're trash without me, and y'all some losers
Speaker 1: without me. I come back with phone and though I
Speaker 1: done hit two game winners, I'm that man. If he don't,
Speaker 1: if he don't settle, if he don't really look at himself,
Speaker 1: his ego can be bigger than it was before, of course,
Speaker 1: And and the issue is going to be now that
Speaker 1: he's injuring that gods zone thought process where he needs
Speaker 1: to protect himself more because now you're four and oh
Speaker 1: you go five.
Speaker 2: And O you you you you? What's the aime of
Speaker 2: the month? You you make the All Star game?
Speaker 1: Oh they go, we gotta come get you, said some
Speaker 1: girls this way we need him to do like you know,
Speaker 1: And this is where now he needs because he has
Speaker 1: this chance where they opened the door for you to
Speaker 1: come back in without any penalty penalty. Right, we penalize you,
Speaker 1: but we got you a lean slavery. You can come
Speaker 1: back and get your crown back. And I think he's
Speaker 1: to really think about where he's at and what he
Speaker 1: can accomplish. He can get more than he lost if
Speaker 1: he plays this right, because the team is horrible without him,
Speaker 1: and if he can get this team to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he can make that All Star team. He's the dude
Speaker 1: the gift of Gab asked, what do you think about
Speaker 1: Memphis going after Andre Drumming or Busovich from Chicago or
Speaker 1: one of these big from the Pistons, bones holand from
Speaker 1: the Clippers.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, because obviously there were a different team without
Speaker 1: with Big Adams.
Speaker 2: And him going down. You know, he missed the last
Speaker 2: half of the season.
Speaker 1: They thought he was gonna be able to come back,
Speaker 1: but he ended up having to have surgery again and
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss the entire season. What do you think
Speaker 1: about going out and getting a Busovitch getting an Andre Drummond?
Speaker 1: I mean that means you got to trade, right, If
Speaker 1: you're just trying to replace one guy, and you're trying
Speaker 1: to replace an enforcer, a hard.
Speaker 2: Body down there, then you might want to go after
Speaker 2: Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1: Right that that is the only player that is cheap, right, cheap,
Speaker 1: willing to to come in for pennies on a dollar
Speaker 1: And because he's been out of the NBA and it
Speaker 1: looks like he's being left behind. He's gonna accept whatever
Speaker 1: role you give him, right. You know he's going to
Speaker 1: be in shape, right. You know he's gonna play defense, right,
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna come to practice. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a professional. And if you need him to come in
Speaker 1: there and check some players, he can do that, right.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to break up your team to
Speaker 1: go out there and get those guys. Right, you can
Speaker 1: just sign as a free agent. When Adams comes back,
Speaker 1: you can cut him if you want. Well, Adam then
Speaker 1: coming back this year, so you MA, you'll probably geld
Speaker 1: have him on the and he'll be just what Adams was.
Speaker 1: I believe if you played him, say twenty five twenty
Speaker 1: seven minutes, I believe he can give you the kind
Speaker 1: of rebounds that Adams give you. Oh yeah, he'll give
Speaker 1: you a double double. Yeah, because you know he'll give
Speaker 1: you a double double. He's gonna get physical. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get physical down there, and that's going to open up
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff for Jahn Moran because now you
Speaker 1: have a real enforcer down there where no one is
Speaker 1: going to be trying to hit you right, and you
Speaker 1: know that's the one guy I see without you can
Speaker 1: without breaking up what I have, because what I have
Speaker 1: right now is four and oh right, because when I
Speaker 1: look at it, I think Dwhite Howard, even at his age,
Speaker 1: is still more athletic than Steven Adams.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, facts, facts, facts, So I think that that
Speaker 2: would be a good move.
Speaker 1: Jylen Brown like likes a tweet pushing back at Ud
Speaker 1: your Donna's Haslam comments on Bill Russell. Haslam apparently said
Speaker 1: f Russell after the NBA announced the league wide jersey
Speaker 1: retirement for the Legendar's Celtic star. Haslam said, tell me
Speaker 1: when you're gonna see Miami heat jersey hanging in Boston,
Speaker 1: said HASLM.
Speaker 2: I have to repent. I had.
Speaker 1: I had to repent that I love Bill. No disrespect
Speaker 1: to Bill.
Speaker 2: I love him.
Speaker 1: Will you ever see a jersey hanging in the Boston rafter?
Speaker 1: Why you know what he got to hang in there?
Speaker 2: U D.
Speaker 1: You know, I like you D, But I think the
Speaker 1: thing is what UD is feeling to miss miss. What
Speaker 1: he's missing is sometimes a player is so good and
Speaker 1: so great they transcend the sport because he's more than
Speaker 1: just a basketball player. It's kind of like Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson, they retired forty two league wide because he
Speaker 1: transcended the sport. Was he the best player in baseball? No,
Speaker 1: but what he did should never be forgotten. Bill Russell
Speaker 1: was the same way what he went through, even in
Speaker 1: Boston as he was winning all those titles. At that summit,
Speaker 1: I think it was sixty seven in which the Summit
Speaker 1: in Cleveland happened, he was there. Bill Russell is a
Speaker 1: civil rights icon. Muhammad Ali is Mamahammed Ali the greatest boxing. No,
Speaker 1: but he transcends the sport, and sometimes when they play,
Speaker 1: when a person is transcendental, I mean, whatever is bestowed
Speaker 1: upon him.
Speaker 2: It's worthy.
Speaker 1: Bill Russell having his number retired across the league, it's worthy.
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson having his number required retired across baseball, it's worthy.
Speaker 1: So I don't and I get I think he was
Speaker 1: just looking at it, like, man, he's from Boston. But
Speaker 1: you have to look at the other stuff. Hey, the
Speaker 1: basketball is the thing. Obviously, he had to be great
Speaker 1: at basketball, but it's the other things.
Speaker 2: Is the reason why he's hanging across everywhere. Uh, when
Speaker 2: it's playoff times and we beating the enemy. We don't
Speaker 2: care about what you transcended. We're trying to get out
Speaker 2: of this series.
Speaker 1: And I got to tell my team whatever I have
Speaker 1: to tell them to get over this hump.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: These two teams been battling for the last three four years,
Speaker 1: right right, and no matter what.
Speaker 2: They trying to do.
Speaker 1: When I see that number at this point in time
Speaker 1: up there while we're playing.
Speaker 2: This team, I don't, I don't. I don't care what
Speaker 2: this history is. We're trying to get out of this series.
Speaker 1: We're trying to get to the championship, and that Boston jersey,
Speaker 1: that legacy is in our way.
Speaker 2: Right. How about this here?
Speaker 1: You do realize the Miami Heat retired Michael Jordan's number,
Speaker 1: So why he ain't say f emj because they ain't
Speaker 1: playing Chicago Bulls. They playing Chicago Bulls. I mean Pat
Speaker 1: Rowley retired that fame before number six. Nomber what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He said, ain't nobody should wear twenty three? What I
Speaker 1: want twenty three. But they're now playing Chicago Bulls. In
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they played you if you look it up
Speaker 1: at the RAF through the word about what in Boston
Speaker 1: was hanging across your arena, you already be.
Speaker 2: But who won? Uh huh?
Speaker 1: So it worked whatever the speech was, whatever the speech was,
Speaker 1: who won? They gag but don't but you gotta remember that.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember the Miami Heat. They lost that game
Speaker 1: and the arena they had to go back to the
Speaker 1: I guess they still call it the guard the TV banks,
Speaker 1: the TD TV banks. I think it's TD Banks. So
Speaker 1: they had to end up having to win there. But
Speaker 1: like like I said, I just think the thing is
Speaker 1: is that if you understood uh uh, it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know Cleveland, you understand what Jim Brown because he
Speaker 1: was we know he was a historical figure as far
Speaker 1: as running the football, but it was what he did,
Speaker 1: uh in the civil rights movement that gave him the
Speaker 1: added credence and and and and and the cachet.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think when when U D was, when he
Speaker 1: did hit that speech, none of that really mattered to him, Right,
Speaker 1: He's just trying to figure out as a guy to
Speaker 1: to get these guys over the hum to really try
Speaker 1: to put some type of fire into them. Right in
Speaker 1: times like that, like there there's times where we being
Speaker 1: you know, we got like Larry Hughes, right, were playing Larry,
Speaker 1: and we got speeches that have him.
Speaker 2: He left us boom boom. We got to go in
Speaker 2: and say it like how we felt.
Speaker 1: But we we got to show each other that we're
Speaker 1: willing to do whatever it takes to get through this hump, right,
Speaker 1: and if Larry's in our way, Larry's in our way, and.
Speaker 2: That's that's really you know what that that speech was.
Speaker 1: We're just hearing about it now, right, Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you can't say.
Speaker 2: That well to get them to do what he needed
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen, if y'all should have got over Game seven,
Speaker 1: y'all should have.
Speaker 2: Said, that's them, right. I think it's a saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard about this girl, but
Speaker 1: there's a situation where Sean McDermott, the head coach of
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, he used a reference about nine to
Speaker 1: eleven and it ended up getting out and he had
Speaker 1: to apologize, he had to walk it back. And I
Speaker 1: think this was a situation because, like you said, doing
Speaker 1: a pregame speech or you trying to get somebody motivated.
Speaker 2: You see a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, still a lot of stuff, but sometimes like as
Speaker 1: ass fans or whatever, like, you can't take everything for
Speaker 1: what it is. Like this hell is a different time now, Gil,
Speaker 1: it's a different time, Gil. The stuff, the stuff that
Speaker 1: we would say in the locker room and y'all sit
Speaker 1: in the locker room.
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna fly now. Yeah, no facts, Hey, you
Speaker 2: gonna get canceled. You can get it.
Speaker 1: You'll get canceled. Yeah, And you understand that. And you
Speaker 1: have to be able to you have to be able
Speaker 1: to maneuver. But the thing is, but now everybody's offended
Speaker 1: about everything, and that's and I think that's the problem
Speaker 1: with sports, is that the fact that every group of
Speaker 1: willing to cancel is the reason why everyone's reluctant to
Speaker 1: have certain type of groups inside the organization, right, because
Speaker 1: if something happens right, that's natural how we talk and
Speaker 1: how we prep each other, and you're canceling me, then
Speaker 1: it's easier for me not to accept that person.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: We won't we won't say we're discriminating, but we are right.
Speaker 1: But that is easier versus you canceling me for saying
Speaker 1: something inappropriate. Uh Zion got a chest tattoo. I want
Speaker 1: to know I thought that was you busting out there,
Speaker 1: just gorilla. Man, Man, you know, Goodwill, I got no
Speaker 1: stomach like that. I don't know where you got that from.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 1: I just want to know what thay, Gil, who go
Speaker 1: tell him? If is not centered?
Speaker 2: I listen, listen. Maybe it's supposed to be a little
Speaker 2: over the heart. Maybe that was the way it was
Speaker 2: a zion, a little over the heart.
Speaker 1: Uh, but I want a zion, man, come on, man, right, like,
Speaker 1: like I get the concept right, you want to put uh.
Speaker 2: What was that a real name? Harambi?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Harambio on your chest, man. But the
Speaker 1: belly is what stopped me. Man, I'm like, it reminded
Speaker 1: me of what Steven They said. Man, he was at
Speaker 1: the Freto line and he's belly getting the bouncing. As
Speaker 1: soon as I seen him with his shirt off, that's
Speaker 1: all I looked at, Like Stephen as right, that was.
Speaker 2: Mad. Look, I mean you got the tattoos, Gil, whole body.
Speaker 1: I got corporate tax. I coined it. I called it
Speaker 1: corporate tax. That's where I like tattoos. But to get
Speaker 1: my corporate sponsors, not on my nazia, none of my
Speaker 1: sleeves days. Yeah, yeah, so so, so I have tats
Speaker 1: all in where where the jersey covers everything right right,
Speaker 1: So I called it corporate task where I.
Speaker 2: Like the tattoos, couldn't see them. They was just not
Speaker 2: going to score corporate. I'm not going to score.
Speaker 1: Uh scare corporations off packs from having me a part
Speaker 1: of their brands.
Speaker 2: Uh flip. Saint Felix asked, no question.
Speaker 1: Got I just wanted to say, Shannon and Gil, you
Speaker 1: guys are killing the game and watching y'all dominate this
Speaker 1: media is beyond inspiring.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. We appreciate the support.
Speaker 1: Doctor Shark Monk said, do NBA NFL players a boy
Speaker 1: getting intimate having sex before big game like boxers do
Speaker 1: for weeks or half French legs? Hell no, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I give them. Hell no, hey, the board nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean we're in the hotel night before a game.
Speaker 1: So it makes it a little bit more difficult because
Speaker 1: we have security at the elevators, we have security at
Speaker 1: the end of the hall, so ain't nobody I mean
Speaker 1: once we have and we have bad check. So once
Speaker 1: we have bad check, I mean they locked it down.
Speaker 1: But hell no, weeks man, you I ain't no boxes.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand they go up to Big Bear
Speaker 1: or they go to you know these places, and they
Speaker 1: in training camp.
Speaker 2: For six eight weeks and then hell not hell to
Speaker 2: the now.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to shake the covers Friday night because
Speaker 1: I know I'm about to be locked down on Saturday. No,
Speaker 1: but look, I can only speak to me, guy Shark
Speaker 1: monk that when you ask, I don't know whatever NBA players.
Speaker 2: I don't know what any.
Speaker 1: NFL players do. Maybe some do, maybe some don't, But no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm not going those six weeks or once
Speaker 1: the season start going without sex.
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I mean Friday, I mean twenty four hours, eight hours,
Speaker 1: that's all I got for you. Do we leave communication
Speaker 1: with Gil? I think we lost Gil lost Gil lost
Speaker 1: the signal headquarters. You got us many'll y'all stop. That
Speaker 1: man ain'tbody to get no tattoo or no cheeseburger. He
Speaker 1: ain't getting no neck bone on his neck. Come on, now, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all do it too much chat, y'all wrong for this.
Speaker 1: The man got a tattoo, Okay, he wanted the tattoo
Speaker 1: on his body. It's a hard and I think it
Speaker 1: got like as a silver back in the in the
Speaker 1: center of the cross. I'm a reader. If Gil joined
Speaker 1: us back, we're gonna we'll go back and revisit that question.
Speaker 1: WD asked Thunk and Gill what y'all think about Rashid
Speaker 1: Wallace isn't an NBA two K because they only wanted
Speaker 1: to pay best ten thousand to be in the game.
Speaker 1: He won one hundred and twenty five thousand, but they
Speaker 1: refused to pay it. Two K makes hundreds of million
Speaker 1: a year. I get it because we're in the same situation,
Speaker 1: and but I think it's nice that I'm a part
Speaker 1: of the game, and I think you look, I think
Speaker 1: sheet I ain't counting that man's pocket. But he feels
Speaker 1: that the adequate and the proper compensation would be one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five K.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell him he's right or wrong.
Speaker 1: Me I wanted to be a part of it, and
Speaker 1: so you know, Hey, it's not much, but I'm not
Speaker 1: hurt for money.
Speaker 2: I'm doing my own thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's hurt for money either, but that's
Speaker 1: he wants to stand on back. Hey guy, you making
Speaker 1: hundreds of million dollars what's one hundred and twenty five K.
Speaker 1: But then when you start paying everybody one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five k, I don't think the game is going
Speaker 1: to last too long.
Speaker 2: So for me, I understand him standing on it.
Speaker 1: I also understand two K said, Nah, we're good, bro,
Speaker 1: We're just we'll have the Pistons or the Trailblazers and
Speaker 1: you won't be a part of it.
Speaker 2: Deil you back yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, ah bad?
Speaker 2: You a hack the system, doctor shark monk.
Speaker 1: He asked NBA NFL players a boy getting intimate having
Speaker 1: sex before big game like boxers do for weeks to
Speaker 1: have fresh leg, and does that work?
Speaker 2: I was saying, Gil, Nah, Bro, I ain't no boxer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake the cover Friday because I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: locked down Saturday, so no, and my leg should be
Speaker 1: recovered by the time I hit the field on Sunday.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not going the week. I'm not going.
Speaker 1: I'm not going a month. I'm not doing any of that. Oh, Shay,
Speaker 1: go shake the covers for dark on Friday.
Speaker 2: Like it's ritual.
Speaker 1: So I had a teammate who who got got some
Speaker 1: falatio before the game. Hit five threes where you gotta
Speaker 1: call up back the next game. So you know, every game,
Speaker 1: that's what he had to do. Okay, every game he
Speaker 1: go to the parking lot ready for the chip off,
Speaker 1: and go to the parking lot, get a.
Speaker 2: Little thing done, come on to the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, hey, and hey, superstitition is a powerful thing, man,
Speaker 1: most powerful thing.
Speaker 2: I didn't listen. I didn't because I heard the story.
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson back in the day said he didn't have
Speaker 1: sex the night before the game, right, And that's all
Speaker 1: I grew up knowing the night before the game, don't
Speaker 1: have sex. Mass Johnson said, don't have sex the night
Speaker 1: before the game, right, So that's what I always did.
Speaker 1: So there was a certain time nine ten o'clock that
Speaker 1: I stopped. So I didn't do it on game day
Speaker 1: just because that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: But I know it wouldn't affect me. It was just
Speaker 2: it was just that's what you know, So you ain't
Speaker 2: doing nothing the night before we either like r you know,
Speaker 2: to ten eleven twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not on game Oh but see see we had
Speaker 1: security on the floor, so we couldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I'm sure some guys were Wait
Speaker 2: it mean security what was security for.
Speaker 1: No women on the no women on the floor. I mean,
Speaker 1: we couldn't have anybody on the floor. We had room chack.
Speaker 1: We had bad chack. Wait as a growl, as a
Speaker 1: grown man, as a grown man. Yea wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait.
Speaker 2: Y'all had curfew.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh no, oh no, no, yeah for sure, no, no,
Speaker 1: we know you damn you need to be an.
Speaker 2: NBA playing for about one good year.
Speaker 1: That's why I said I had to shake the coup
Speaker 1: before dark on Friday, because I know I would gonna
Speaker 1: be locked down either on the road or in the
Speaker 1: hotel cup even at home. We stayed in the hotel
Speaker 1: night before the game. What, Yes, you stayed the hotel
Speaker 1: night before a game.
Speaker 2: We're partying that. Oh no, we party.
Speaker 1: Most of us are coming in at six seven in
Speaker 1: the morning from the club. Yeah, but see y'all games
Speaker 1: that night, so you could do that. See we played
Speaker 1: at one two o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're just going to sleep all.
Speaker 1: Day and were just going to sleep again because Mike
Speaker 1: is telling us Friday and Brian uh was always telling
Speaker 1: us after the Priday, we've done practice around one o'clock
Speaker 1: on Friday, all right, go home, get off your feed
Speaker 1: if you got you know, hey, and when you know
Speaker 1: I did, I got off my feet on I mean, Gill,
Speaker 1: I was off my feet. That that's great. He with
Speaker 1: our others, but I was off bo feet. Y'all y'all
Speaker 1: didn't even get to have fun. We haven't listen.
Speaker 2: Listen if I.
Speaker 1: You can't hang in the basketball player, we might have
Speaker 1: been good.
Speaker 2: I'd have been good. You know. We run them through
Speaker 2: the hotel. You got the same girl going through four
Speaker 2: five rules? What? Oh yeah, I gotta why she coming
Speaker 2: on down hey? And she got a friend.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know that. You know what the
Speaker 1: traveling pats, Oh yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2: Handle all these girls come on down here. You ain't
Speaker 2: got three folk coming to that.
Speaker 1: That happened in the NFL security big But see now, Gil,
Speaker 1: Gil with I wouldn't want no parts of that now
Speaker 1: with the way it's set up now, or you're gonna
Speaker 1: get it's a simple limit, sha Let me show you
Speaker 1: a simple rule, Gill. No means no, maybe means no,
Speaker 1: and sometimes yes means.
Speaker 2: No tomorrow all that no, nope, nope, leaving along, Gil.
Speaker 1: Cash means yes right, cash means as soon as they
Speaker 1: ain't take that cat, they mean, yeah, right, so we pay.
Speaker 2: We're paying.
Speaker 1: What you say, Oh yeah, go ahead that Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got receipts. Oh, let me cash app you this hug
Speaker 1: cash app. Sin, I ain't got no apps or I
Speaker 1: ain't got no cash apps on my phone.
Speaker 2: But why you got no uber. I ain't got no
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing. Have you noticed though, the NBA
Speaker 2: players ain't getting called out for that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, y'all y'all, But see, y'all got a different life.
Speaker 1: See y'all see basketball like basketball and baseball player, y'all.
Speaker 1: That drove the price up, y'all, y'all inflation, So y'all
Speaker 1: done drove the price up to hill. I mean he
Speaker 1: used to be you know, finger near your hair done.
Speaker 1: You know you get your nails done, and you know
Speaker 1: you're playing a little bill here or there.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm mm hm. Oh yeah, we messed the Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: y y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, god man, yeah, we flying were flying private
Speaker 1: private jet. We're gonna give you thousands just to get you.
Speaker 1: See that's what I'm saying. Oh see I need them.
Speaker 1: I needed a pre pandemic prices, see y'all, see see
Speaker 1: pandemic that happened and everything was scarce needed to go
Speaker 1: back to pre pandemic. Yes, I can't, I can yet,
Speaker 1: your your man. I hate the basketball players. I told
Speaker 1: you all, the basketball player, the baseball player, that the belevel.
Speaker 2: Like we we we we buying the burking bag.
Speaker 1: Were gonna put the thirty thousand, forty thousand in there
Speaker 1: just to talk to you. We we're gonna try to
Speaker 1: spoil you, just to get it, just for the ways
Speaker 1: over old on y'all see that a just NFL players. See,
Speaker 1: that's why we ain't got no chance. That's why we
Speaker 1: can't compete with them. Bill already tell y'all don't bring
Speaker 1: your track shoes. Y'all want to keep keep up with
Speaker 1: the NBA player, bring your check book and that and that.
Speaker 1: When people hear me talk and I say, y'all don't understand.
Speaker 1: I got a different playbook, my platebook. I get to
Speaker 1: say whatever I walk because what they're gonna do, I
Speaker 1: can just get a new one, right how I like
Speaker 1: girls like yeah, don't talk to me like that. I
Speaker 1: get you, and then the people above me get you too.
Speaker 2: You know Dave that say Hey, what time you gonna
Speaker 2: be over here?
Speaker 1: You said nine. I'm holding right now. I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: somebody else. I see you later. I get to do that. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll be over right now. Well, whoever, whoever get
Speaker 1: here first, that's who I'm letting me in. So what
Speaker 1: so what if they show at the same time. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: y'all like each other. Hey, hey, look the NBA player.
Speaker 1: Look the NBA player. Listen, the NBA player gonna try it.
Speaker 1: We say whatever because we can.
Speaker 2: I'm scared. And that's the problem. Like we really like,
Speaker 2: we we root, we rude, like.
Speaker 1: We we we compromise because we we we we can
Speaker 1: go into d M and then get the talking we
Speaker 1: talk records. All right, Well, then I just holler at
Speaker 1: your friend or ill holler at this person. Y'all are
Speaker 1: all for of y'all to come back. We we just
Speaker 1: were just sitting there just playing mismatch. And that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem. But and guess what, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna catch us in public with them. So that means, listen,
Speaker 1: we were treating girls who are high sed diitty, yeah,
Speaker 1: to turn them into three o fo's.
Speaker 2: That's for let's holds backwards.
Speaker 1: You know your your your superstar women, them them stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they come sneaky in the hotel two in
Speaker 1: the morning and go.
Speaker 2: And leave out.
Speaker 1: So you know, I was wondering, I say, man, why
Speaker 1: everybody got a g wagon? Why they gotta working bag?
Speaker 1: And they got on aps on y'all ain't got no
Speaker 1: job like Oh now it makes sens gil. I was
Speaker 1: wondering every time I go on, I g and I'm looking.
Speaker 1: She got a g wagon, she got a burking bag,
Speaker 1: she got.
Speaker 2: An ap she look. She dated the date the NBA
Speaker 2: player for the luxury. They date the NFL player for
Speaker 2: the love.
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna show them the attention that they need. Oh lord, listen,
Speaker 1: I can. I can fly you out from Miami. We
Speaker 1: go to Miami Club. You you are in town with
Speaker 1: me and I took somebody else home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna get your new hotel room. She better. Wow,
Speaker 2: I ain't got that guy. I ain't never had that guy.
Speaker 1: I ain't never been that ballsy well, I ain't never
Speaker 1: First of all, I ain't never flew out to him.
Speaker 1: I ain't never went to a party like that like
Speaker 1: y'all be doing it. I guess I'm about to go
Speaker 1: out there and let my hair down. Yes over they
Speaker 1: allay put. Now, don't let me try to look to
Speaker 1: the next celebrity you see, go to the next Celebritcy.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I want you for tonight. I got about
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. Hey, what you got for me? You'll
Speaker 2: be surprised. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I get it, Gil, Look at my age. I'm fifty five.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a celebrity. They're playing in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I get that at my age because
Speaker 1: of who I am. The dating pool is a lot open,
Speaker 1: a lot more open than say somebody fifty five that's
Speaker 1: not in my position.
Speaker 2: I can get it, but I ain't no food now, Gil.
Speaker 1: It ain't all the way open like if I now,
Speaker 1: if I was twenty five or thirty five, I gotta
Speaker 1: play books. You know you're right, you're right, So you
Speaker 1: know I'm how to stay up my lane, Gill, like
Speaker 1: you don't ade. Hey, you know that new Florid law
Speaker 1: that just about to pass, a law you got to
Speaker 1: be at leave driving at least sixty five in the
Speaker 1: far left lane.
Speaker 2: I ain't all the way to the right.
Speaker 1: I'm in the lane they stood the part right lane,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing like fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Hey, good question up.
Speaker 1: Right, So since you're fifty five, is the problem that
Speaker 1: fifty five year old women don't look good?
Speaker 2: This is that the fifty five year old women don't
Speaker 2: look like kept up like you do? Is that? Is
Speaker 2: that a problem?
Speaker 1: The God, the God's honest truth. Women my age looking
Speaker 1: for guys younger.
Speaker 2: And me.
Speaker 1: I ain't no, said day, me too. So we both
Speaker 1: looking for different we looking over each other, looking for
Speaker 1: something else.
Speaker 2: Here what it is? It is?
Speaker 1: What it is, man, I'm at I'm at photios.
Speaker 2: So I'm good.
Speaker 1: You're the sweek five, they say, like when you date,
Speaker 1: when you're looking for a girlfriend or wife half your
Speaker 1: age plus plus seven, that's supposed to be your cutoff. Okay,
Speaker 1: after your age plus seven, So you're theoretically so from
Speaker 1: twenty seven. I guess all the way to forty is
Speaker 1: in your wheelhouse. Okay, I ain't tell nobody my age.
Speaker 1: I ain't really fifty five thirty seven now, I geel like,
Speaker 1: I just I just love. I just can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I just say.
Speaker 1: I ain't never had that kind of gumption to be
Speaker 1: able to you know, I mean, I will say, you're
Speaker 1: not in I could.
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 1: I could sense early on if somebody wasn't feeling me.
Speaker 2: And that's cool.
Speaker 1: I ain't never called nobody out their name because they
Speaker 1: didn't want to holler at me, or they found my
Speaker 1: boy more attractive, or he had somebody had more money.
Speaker 2: I'm cool. I'm good with it. It ain't the end
Speaker 2: of the world. I think my notes.
Speaker 1: Your personality lets me get away with a lot more
Speaker 1: because they already expected, right, they expect they expected.
Speaker 2: Like if I go out there.
Speaker 1: Right now and say, yeah, anybody charging for for you know, vagina,
Speaker 1: I'll have a whole d M full of models and celebrities.
Speaker 1: Are were you playing when you said that?
Speaker 2: Hey, big head?
Speaker 1: Like, sometimes I just say this ship just to say it, right,
Speaker 1: they take it. I don't even leave my goddamn house.
Speaker 1: I just see it just to say it.
Speaker 2: Just for kicks and giggles.
Speaker 1: Since everybody wants to be a good dude, so I
Speaker 1: just want to be a bad dude just to see
Speaker 1: just I hate. Someone has to someone has to talk
Speaker 1: for the slim balls bro and Tony Robinson saying oh
Speaker 1: you got to stop left, Steve, and they get away
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: Jordan Dad passed an excuse.
Speaker 1: Many people lose loved ones but just didn't quit their job.
Speaker 1: Brian better, Look, I mean we gil, I know you've
Speaker 1: heard everything that was said that there were other extreenuating circumstances.
Speaker 1: Was the reason that Jordan left the NBA. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He said it was a lot of pressure. I know
Speaker 1: the man had a very very close relationship with his dad.
Speaker 1: Uh and that's a lot. That's a lot given the
Speaker 1: tragedy and the tragic manner in which it happened happened,
Speaker 1: and the gravity of what happened.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, they said it was other things where that
Speaker 1: led he was suspended.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And so all I know is that the man stepped
Speaker 1: away for a year and a half and came back
Speaker 1: and he wasn't quite the same. We're in the forty five,
Speaker 1: but when he showed back up in ninety six with
Speaker 1: that two.
Speaker 2: Three that two three three, Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: Like we've heard the stories, right, We've heard the whispers here.
Speaker 1: We've I've talked to refs, you know, and you know
Speaker 1: there's some things that went on, but you know.
Speaker 2: Let let.
Speaker 1: It was a mutual step away, right, It was a
Speaker 1: mutual step away, you know right now, you know, as
Speaker 1: they're facing the league. You know, we don't know if
Speaker 1: we can control all this drama. So you step away,
Speaker 1: going on, let the world miss you, and then you
Speaker 1: come back and then we can just talk about basketball,
Speaker 1: right you know, Sometimes you know, things like that have
Speaker 1: to happen, especially when you know who he was at
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, yeah, I don't you know the things
Speaker 1: we we heard.
Speaker 2: You don't want that that.
Speaker 1: That that type of you know, cloud over the NBA,
Speaker 1: especially for who he was.
Speaker 2: Anybody else has, but not not him. Not him.
Speaker 1: Nicki went underscore ATO four said, hey, there, Gil, being
Speaker 1: from Richmond, Virginia, I'm I'm a Wizards fan because of you,
Speaker 1: and they're only what They're the only team in DC
Speaker 1: I support. So Nicki went underscore eight O four. She's
Speaker 1: a big fan of your Gil.
Speaker 2: The girl. There's only two teams in DC.
Speaker 1: You got the Wizards and you got Gold Georgetown, and
Speaker 1: the Wizard is about.
Speaker 2: To be going to Virginia.
Speaker 1: So I hope you got your bust fed or your
Speaker 1: gas money because that's where you're going where She and Richmond,
Speaker 1: So Richmond, Oh, we loved Richmond like we used to
Speaker 1: have training camp in Richmond.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was a good. That was a good.
Speaker 2: That was a good.
Speaker 1: Like there, it was perfect for a training camp, like
Speaker 1: we went down there in George Mason all the time
Speaker 1: the training Raiders Mom twenty four eighty nine. Please shout
Speaker 1: out our son, Raider. He's seventeen months old, was born
Speaker 1: with five holes in his art, fourteen months in the hospital,
Speaker 1: but he's finally home. God is good. Raider's Mom, twenty
Speaker 1: four eighty nine. Congratulations all the best Raider. Hopefully after
Speaker 1: fourteen months in the hospital, he's seventeen months old.
Speaker 2: Finally home.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, and hopefully he has a long, healthy, prosperous life.
Speaker 1: God is good. Thank you, Raider's mom twenty four eighty
Speaker 1: nine for sharing that. Jay his name is Raider, His
Speaker 1: name is Raiders.
Speaker 2: Well, no, we know a team. What football fan he's
Speaker 2: gonna be a fan of?
Speaker 1: Nothing can't be Jay asked, do you think Piston's losing
Speaker 1: streak should be a reminder of to other rebuilding teams
Speaker 1: the risk of getting it wrong?
Speaker 2: No, the losing streak is is more of they found
Speaker 2: they found out how to be bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta practice this girl, ain't no way you
Speaker 1: can practice being good and be this bad.
Speaker 2: So you gotta practice being bad. You gotta the habits
Speaker 2: of what you do every day. It's to look like
Speaker 2: when you're talking.
Speaker 1: About what makes a great team great is the little
Speaker 1: things they do when their shots not falling, when you
Speaker 1: know there's they're they're making those extra plays.
Speaker 2: I took a charge here, dove out of the bounds,
Speaker 2: hustled back.
Speaker 1: On defense line. Right, you make those little extra plays.
Speaker 1: That's what the winning teams do. Now the opposite bad
Speaker 1: teams they make all the wrong plays at the right
Speaker 1: time for their opponent taking a bad shot, turning the
Speaker 1: ball over. Right, You know you had five turnovers for
Speaker 1: the game. Four of them was in the last minute, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just find ways to lose.
Speaker 1: And when you're a bad team, it's more mental than
Speaker 1: it is the game itself.
Speaker 2: Right, is they're going to run, they hit.
Speaker 1: Two threes, You look at each other, Oh we lost again.
Speaker 2: Now this is the first everybody hit you down, right,
Speaker 2: And that's what it is like.
Speaker 1: There has to be a moment in time where if
Speaker 1: you think positive, it will happen. You go in and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game, no matter how many shots
Speaker 1: they make.
Speaker 2: We're gonna cheer, We're gonna stand, We're gonna root.
Speaker 1: I need the bench, I need you guys stand up
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. We're gonna cheer. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. We need to be our own battery pack.
Speaker 1: And the day they do that is the day they
Speaker 1: get out of this. But right now they'll lunch me. Wow,
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