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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Nightcap Basketball Edition. I'm your

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Speaker 2: So thank you guys. Gil. Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: Luca and the MAVs collapse in the fourth quarter lose

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Speaker 1: against the Calves one thirteen to one ten. The Calves

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Speaker 1: overcame a twenty point deficit, outscored the Mavericks thirty one

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Speaker 1: Darius Garland, no Evan More. Karas Lebert twenty nine points

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Speaker 1: responding to Andre Drummonds twenty four and twenty five against

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Speaker 1: the hag yesterday. Luca thirty nine, seven and six was

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Speaker 1: an kind of what did you take away from this

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Speaker 1: ball game? It's it's usually your bench. You know, Dallas

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Speaker 1: is they have one superstar. This reminds me of Jordan

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Speaker 1: when he came into the league, right, you know, Luca

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Speaker 1: Mappick is a concerned good. No, he's good. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: not good. You know your third best player, which is

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Speaker 2: Right. It lets you know where the team is and

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Speaker 2: you know he was just outmatched.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's basically him versus you know Cleveland five.

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Speaker 1: Now which is embarrassing because you know, without the no

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Speaker 1: Twenty point lead in today's game is not the same

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Speaker 2: You gotta win that window, Gill got.

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Speaker 1: Those are the ones that you kick yourself, you know,

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Speaker 2: And that's right. That's what's happening in today's game.

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Speaker 1: Where there's no lead that's safe because when you're up,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to add the same method that got you back.

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Speaker 1: This one thing that I have a problem with is this.

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Speaker 1: they're going in. Now, you put them guys in a

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Speaker 1: But seemingly, when they're up by twenty, everybody, no one

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Speaker 1: When you when you're a bench player, the game's down,

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Speaker 1: So the Mavericks lose, they collapse to the Calves lose

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Speaker 1: one thirteen, one ten. After being up by twenty points.

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Speaker 1: The Calves outscoring about eleven in the fourth quarter to

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Speaker 1: beat the Knicks one explicit duo of Shake Gilders, Alexander

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Speaker 1: But they're young, right, Yes, they're gonna give you those

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Speaker 1: know your best player, Shade, he has it right. He

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Speaker 1: for the last three four five years, he's been showing

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Speaker 2: So yes, with.

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Speaker 1: Him leading the charge, it's easier for everybody else to

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Speaker 1: he I mean, man, I love Shaye. I mean he

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Williams. I saw him against the Lakers a

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Speaker 1: He can stroke it from three. He can really shoot

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Speaker 1: the ball from outside. Chad Hogan, he's up and coming.

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Speaker 1: He needs to add about ten pounds.

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Speaker 1: But what I like about him, he ain't just jacking

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Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, he might be a better

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Speaker 1: But you know, he's steady, he's humble, he trains, he's worked.

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Speaker 1: You have two guys that's playing thirty plus minutes, scoring

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Speaker 1: Their decent size, but when you look at it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: But they got big guys that can back you down,

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Speaker 1: But to win a championship, man, like I said, you

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Speaker 1: So when you when you talk when we talk about small.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's he's small, stubby, compact, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: So he's given you thirty five.

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Speaker 2: you know you got that.

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Speaker 1: You know you see Tybres Maxi blossoming growing right.

434
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: In front of our eyes.

435
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: He can he's giving you twenty five to thirty on

436
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: a night the basis, and some nights he can give

437
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: you thirty five forty.

438
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you like?

439
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: What do you like most about the Sixers without him?

440
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: Be they're they're way better than Orlando. Orlando is young, right,

441
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: you know, something coming to a young team. So you

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: know you expected, you know, Sixers to winness, right, you

443
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: got you still got Harris over there, you still got Oubre,

444
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: You got solid veteran guys who know how to play

445
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: this game. Right, You would expect, like MAXI to come

446
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: out and try to score forty tonight, right because in

447
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: B's not You're like, oh, I get to get off.

448
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 1: But the way the game is being played, he realized

449
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: that he still manages the game, you know, and Bed's

450
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 1: not going to get this ball, but Uber can get

451
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: some shots. You have, Harrison gets some shots, Milton get

452
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: get some shots. So he still did his job as

453
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: a point guard, you know, getting the team involved when

454
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: usually a young, a young guard would try to make

455
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: up the point difference for his star center.

456
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, uh, he's really, he's really good.

457
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: He's he's he's gonna get the max contract, and I

458
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: think the max contract this year especially he's gonna be.

459
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make the All Star team. And

460
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: so now he has another bargaining chip and it so

461
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: whatever the max was last year, I'm assuming it's going

462
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: up a little bit at five percent. There's a five

463
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: percent and place your tax max contract number. But I

464
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: like Tyree's maxing. He said he credited James Harden with

465
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: helping him develop into an All NBA player.

466
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Speaker 2: What's he saying for for our lay people at home?

467
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: What is he saying? Yes?

468
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: See, people don't realize how great James Harden was at

469
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: putting that ball in that basket. Right.

470
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: I think we.

471
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: The last two years we judged him on out side

472
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: things and not realize what he was very skilled at.

473
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: Right. You know, you got to go back to that twenty.

474
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: Eighteen twenty nineteen season where he average w thirty six.

475
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: Out of the last sixty one games, he scored thirty

476
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: plus forty six of those games out of sixty one

477
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: games he scored forty. He's scored thirty or more forty

478
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: six times or more all sixty one times. That's a

479
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: different breed of a score. So if I'm MAXI I'm

480
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: soaking up everything. I don't care where he's at right now.

481
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: I know what's here, and I want to train with you.

482
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: I want to pick your brain. I want to know

483
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: what you know because this type of level of scoring,

484
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 1: there's only really two other guards that really this, Michael

485
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Hoben went on runs like this. Ye, yeah,

486
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: where you're talking about out of the last sixty one

487
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: games of the season, twenty or more, all sixty one.

488
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: That's impressive, yes, And I think the thing is what

489
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: we remember James Harden at his absolute apex in Houston,

490
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: and he turned himself in more of a facilitator at Brooklyn.

491
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: So we didn't see that fifty that fifty point triple double.

492
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: We didn't see the sixty point triple doubles. We saw

493
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: guys somewhere in the mid twenties give you a triple double.

494
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: And if Kad was out, he took the owners, he

495
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: could score more. If Kyrie was out, he could take

496
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: the owners and score even more. But normally when one

497
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: of those other guys were out, it was great because

498
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: he understood, yes, I can get my shot, but I

499
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: need to get these other guys involved.

500
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: When he went to.

501
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: Philly, he even became more of a facilitator, leading the

502
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: NBA in assists last year because of Joel Embiid.

503
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: It's hard.

504
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: I don't see a situation where you shouldn't leave the

505
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: NBA at assists if you got Joel and bid it

506
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: up and down too. Now you know he gonna give

507
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: you thirty a night anyway. Most of a lot of

508
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: those gonna come from the file line. But when I

509
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: look at when you look at gay, and that's what

510
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: I said, as a veteran player, give that knowledge because

511
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: a lot of times Gil Man, he ain't taking my job.

512
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: I ain't helping it.

513
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Facts facts, And we see this chat with a lot

514
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: of times in the NFL with the quarterbacks.

515
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: It's not my job to get him ready. It's not

516
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: my job to help him.

517
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: It's almost like, bro, if you're secure in yourself, he

518
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: can't beat you out for the job. If you are

519
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: what you believe is pass the information on. It'll serve you.

520
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: Well. What good is all that information to hoard it?

521
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 2: Spread it?

522
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: But I love Tyreese maxt and I love the fact

523
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: that he's gave James Harden says, James Harden is the

524
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: reason I'm watching him, and you should should You should

525
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: be able to get better by being on the same court,

526
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: by practicing with picking his brain, watching what he does,

527
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: see how he breaks down the defense, how he orchestrates

528
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: and leap excuse me, how he breaks down the defense,

529
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: how he leads an offense.

530
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: You should get better? You should?

531
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: Everybody don't, right, because everybody want to get better. No,

532
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: everyone ain't built for the same altitude, right, right, you.

533
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: Know what I mean? And that's usually the most frustrating part.

534
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Where you have someone like a James Harden who he's

535
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: he's an eagle right right, and playing with some pigeons

536
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: and he's trying to.

537
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: Get them to.

538
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: His altitude, knowing that if they get they're gonna die, right,

539
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: So now he has to come down and play pigeon basketball.

540
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: While getting killed by the media for playing pigeon basketball, right.

541
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: And then that's where you have this fine line between

542
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: being selfish and being a team player.

543
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 2: Where I can average thirty six on this team they trash, But.

544
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: If I make the right plays and pass these guys

545
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: at the ball, they're not capable of it. So should

546
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: I average twenty two eleven assists and we lose? So

547
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: I can prove that this team sucks or do I

548
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: just average thirty six points and you just keep calling

549
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: me selfish?

550
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: That is a big finger in the NBA.

551
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: Okay, that is a big fight in the NBA with

552
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: the star player when when the pressure from the outside,

553
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: it is like why he ain't pa, why he ain't

554
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: doing because my team ain't good. They not They can't

555
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: step up to this level. They don't want to work

556
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: like I worked out three times a day every day.

557
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: When I got to Washington, I seen in my years

558
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: Koran was the most consistent, Larry Hughes a few times,

559
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: and Twine Jamison a few times. That's it in my

560
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: in my and and and my extra work. So when

561
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: I come in at nine o'clock and at nine eleven

562
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: o'clock at night one in the morning, I only seen

563
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: a few.

564
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: Players out of my whole career.

565
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: Everybody don't want it, then you can't make them. And

566
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: see that's what that's what people don't understand. There's a

567
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: price to be paid for greatness, and if you're not

568
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: willing to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great.

569
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you talk about it, because

570
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: see professional sports, the one thing that you can't talk

571
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: your way in or out because they're gonna.

572
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: Have to prove it. The proof is in the pudding.

573
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: So you're telling me all this what you're doing.

574
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't see it manifesting itself because I'm a firm

575
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: believer Gil that if you were I don't care what

576
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: it is. If you work at something, you will get

577
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: incrementally better. I'm not gonna say you're gonna be if

578
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: you if you finger paint, I'm not gonna say you're

579
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: gonna be Picasso. I'm not gonna say he's gonna be

580
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, Da Vinci or Mikaelangelo. I'm not saying that.

581
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: But you will get better, yes, even if it's marginally.

582
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: This is what I said about Ben Simmons. I didn't

583
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: see any improvement from Ben Simmons from his rookie year

584
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: to his fifth year.

585
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: And people are, oh, man, you don't know. I said,

586
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

587
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: There's no possible way that this man can be putting

588
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: in the time that he says he's putting in, and

589
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't see any improvement. You know what's so funny.

590
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: He is one of those rare cases. I've watched him

591
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: three summers. I've watched him three summers, and what I'm

592
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: watching is a superstar basketball player. Right, I'm walking like

593
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here. He can shoot the ball. He can

594
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: He's coming downhill right, He's dominating.

595
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: These other superstars.

596
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: They were scared of this man every summer because he's

597
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna pick up full court. You know, you know in

598
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: the summer you're trying to be he's picking up a

599
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: full court and he's coming at you.

600
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: That perception is a real thing.

601
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of shooters, a lot of

602
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: guys that can't shoot is because they've been practicing in

603
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: these small gyms and then when they get to that arena,

604
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: they can't. I got I gouged that that damn rim. Wow,

605
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: when he plays in the game, he don't shoot the

606
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: ball because.

607
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he knows that distance.

608
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I've watched this man's like, why don't you shoot the

609
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: ball in the game right? Like your foot The mechanics

610
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: is great, and I think that that that rim, that

611
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: that that you know you know and practice.

612
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: There's there's that.

613
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: Wall right there exactly yeah open, it's open space in

614
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: that arena. So I always made it a stance myself

615
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: to the night before I'm.

616
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: Gonna get in that rim.

617
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in that that Uh, if there was

618
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: no hockey game, I'm gonna get on the main court

619
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: and get some shots up.

620
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta practice in that arena.

621
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: You can't practice in these small gyms and then get

622
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: to the arena and think your shot is that? And

623
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, there's there's a couple of

624
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: things with that. And I think he just when he

625
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: gets to that game, I think he just freezes up.

626
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: He's scared to make mistakes. Yeah, that's that's a lot

627
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: of it, because we saw that and in the game

628
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: seven against Atlanta when they had that lead. You see,

629
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: the thing is, Gail, I can teach you to I

630
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: can teach you to swim if you're not afraid of

631
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: the water. See, I can't teach you to shoot if

632
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: you're afraid to miss it. See it's not that he

633
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: can't shoot. He's afraid to shoot too. That's two different things.

634
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: But not being able to swim and being afraid of

635
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: the water are two different things because you're afraid, Well,

636
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: he was afraid.

637
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: That's why he didn't shoot. That's why. And I remember

638
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: saying it.

639
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: I says, and Doc, I remember, Doc said, anybody that

640
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: doesn't think that we're gonna play that we're gonna take

641
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons out and we're not gonna play him in

642
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.

643
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: They don't know basketball.

644
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: I said, Doc, it's gonna come a time you're gonna

645
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: have no choice, I said, because he's a liability.

646
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: I said, because if.

647
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: The team is down by ten and it's a outside

648
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: of two minutes or I'm following him every day, every

649
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: trip down the corn, I'm gonna fiore him. Y'all are

650
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: not gonna get that ball to Joel and Bed And

651
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: that's what Atlanta did and got back into the game

652
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: every single time.

653
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: And Dan when it came time he had a dunk,

654
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: and he asked it.

655
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: The mental when you're when you're mentally not comfortable, it

656
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: shows at the worst time in games. Yes, right, I

657
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: remember when, like when I came back off an injury

658
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: and my free throws wasn't on right now because my

659
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: free throws is not where they're supposed to be, I'm

660
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: scared to drive to get hit, so I don't have

661
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: to shoot that free throw, right, that's a thing. Right now,

662
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm driving not to get fouled because so I don't

663
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: have to go to the free throw line. Right, So

664
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: when you start looking at the game, once that, once

665
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: that player gets into his own mind, there's nothing the

666
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: coach can do, there's nothing opponent to do.

667
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: He's already beating himself.

668
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Up right right, Like there was times where when I

669
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: was on my free throws, I talked to myself, cash

670
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: money baby, nothing but cash money baby, Like I had

671
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: to talk myself into everything I'm doing cash money buckets.

672
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a thing that when you're on

673
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: that court, you miss ten straight shots, if you're not

674
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: self confident, you're gonna miss another ten. That's when you

675
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: start wide open layup. You miss it or you got

676
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: gotta lay up, and you finally get your point.

677
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: Your teammate goal tended.

678
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Everything starts going wrong, can throw it go in, uh somebody?

679
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: Uh free throw violation.

680
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Right, Everything just starts going wrong, and it just keeps

681
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: you down that spiral. Then you just gotta be you

682
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: got to be self aware to get yourself out of it.

683
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: And I don't think I think that it was at

684
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: that moment. I agree.

685
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: I think the number one thing Gil is, this is

686
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: what I tell a lot of people, whether it's force

687
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: or life, don't you become an opponent Because a lot

688
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: of times we can become our own opponent. And that's

689
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: even more that's even more lethal than the opponent for

690
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: the opposing teams.

691
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: Us.

692
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: We create an opponent that we cannot beat in that self.

693
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: And so what what what Ben has done?

694
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: He's created an opponent that he cannot beat, and until

695
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: until he defeats that opponent, here we are.

696
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

697
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: And the sad part is I've always said it like

698
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: if I was a coach and I know this player

699
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: is struggling, I know this player will sacrifice his scoring

700
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: for the betterment of the team, right, And as a coach,

701
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, but f these teams got them,

702
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: do you right? I need you to go out there

703
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: and please try to give me fifty. I want to

704
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: see it. We got to meet me and the rest

705
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: of the crew. Got to bet go out there. We're

706
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: not trying to win this game. I'll wait to We

707
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: got damn played. Uh, We're gonna play goddamn Detroit. Everywhere

708
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: everyone bingched Ben, you gotta win this game by your

709
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: goddamn self. I because I gotta see I gotta let

710
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: him tap into it so he can see it for himself.

711
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to just see what you can do

712
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: to really believe, because there's no way that you're going

713
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: to the game. Think about this ship. You're playing thirty

714
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: eight minutes and you took six shots. Yeah, that means

715
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: you are purposely not even looking to score. You just

716
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: out there. Ask you you like the you like the

717
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: motherfucking uh the playing in the club.

718
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: Uh? You just in the club.

719
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: You're just there, you know, different than that thing back then.

720
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: You're just out there.

721
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

722
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Now, especially he the point guard and I'm playing that

723
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: many minutes. Oh, I'm getting me twelve to fourteen to

724
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: night fax shots. Hey, hat shots, guaranteed shots.

725
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: Hey, like you said at the club, it's the club

726
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: shot shot shot shot shot, because I'm getting the ball.

727
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting the bull Ki And who's gonna tell you

728
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: no when you when you're so getting like.

729
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure and be.

730
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: James Harden, No, not James Harden, but uh, Kyrie, Yeah, Katie, I.

731
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 2: Know those guys were so pissed off at him.

732
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, because I get to watch you every

733
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: day in practice, homeboy, Yes, I get to see your

734
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: ability in real time and then you come out here

735
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: and give me this bull.

736
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: That's the frustrating things.

737
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: When you know what your your teammates is capable of,

738
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: and then they come into the lights and.

739
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: You've seen it, you've seen it, you see it again.

740
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: We've all I mean, I've had teammates catch a ball,

741
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean high point the ball in practice, catch the

742
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: ball in a crowd.

743
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm talking about one hand.

744
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: They can do it all and as soon as you

745
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: put them in the game, ball hit him in the

746
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: face mask I mean ball hit them right between the

747
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean the ball that hit him on the ground

748
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: by the time they bring their hands together. We've all

749
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: seen guys like that, like ro what happened to that

750
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: guy that was in practice on Wednesdays and Thursday and Friday.

751
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: How do you go from that you don't drop anything

752
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: to you can't catch anything because he's comfortable with us,

753
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: not the opponent, Oh, be comfortable with us, not the opponent.

754
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: The opponent is the person that they know, and not

755
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: knowing stares the shit out of some people. We see

756
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: that a lot in camp, guys making plays against people

757
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: that you know. And that's what if a lot of

758
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: times you hear football players say, Man, I just want

759
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: to go out there against somebody that I don't know,

760
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't have on my uniform. I just want to

761
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: hit somebody, because you want to see what these young

762
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: kids can do against somebody that they don't know. Yes,

763
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: somebody that that's not going to put that thump on

764
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: them and that's not going to put him on the ground.

765
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: That guy's trying to make the roster just like you are.

766
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: Yep.

767
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: So I want to see I want to see the

768
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: Suns beat the Rockets one twenty nine, one thirteen. KD

769
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: ha the monster night. He had twenty seven points, sixteen assists,

770
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: ten rebounds. KD denied a report that he's frustrated with

771
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: the Sons. Walk says, somebody else feels that I'm frustrated

772
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: and it turned to me being mentally checked out.

773
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: This is crazy. These people can.

774
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: Plan out loud, my name, make it up and you

775
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: people will believe it. But when my teammates and coaches

776
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: speak on high am as a high am as a teammate,

777
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: you ignore it.

778
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 2: Lol.

779
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: So we'll get to that. We'll get we'll get the

780
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: KD comments in a second. Let's talk about the game.

781
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: What did you like, what did you like about what

782
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: you saw tonight from the Suns? And what's been what

783
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: happened tonight that's been different than the other Knights. See

784
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: what the Suns they have a great starting five, right,

785
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we we can't give you no praise.

786
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: You're playing Houston, right, I mean, he's you know, proving,

787
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: but you know what we know who's coming to play

788
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: it Kevin Durant Booker right right on, Like you know,

789
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: that's that is the core of that team.

790
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: It's it's trying to find.

791
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: That six seven eighth guy who can give you consistent

792
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: play and and and that's that's the key with a

793
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: lot of these teams. They haven't really dialed in that

794
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: their roster. They don't know what they're looking for or

795
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: what they want, and it's it's bringing a lot of

796
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: confusion in your with team chemistry in.

797
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: The first place.

798
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: But the starting five themselves, oh they're balling the starting

799
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: five for for sons. They they got their stuff intact, right,

800
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: They're having about they're having is about ninety five points

801
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: as a starting unit. Okay, that is impressive, right, yeah,

802
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about what one hundred and sixteen points.

803
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: That means you only need about twenty off the bench. Yeah,

804
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: but the thing is I'm looking at it not hey.

805
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: KD had to play forty one minutes. Eric Gordon played

806
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: thirty nine minutes. Book played thirty six minutes against Houston.

807
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, who I was they got on that goddamn team.

808
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: They traded the most people who say, God, you're gonna

809
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: put ball bowl in, You're gonna.

810
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: Put u wakasambie whatever you're gonna put you to watch

811
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: nab Come on, oh bow, did get get two minutes?

812
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: Got too many?

813
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: Get god damn two minutes? But they don't have fy

814
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: one onder the event, so he do you have to

815
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: play forty one minutes?

816
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? That started played a boatload of minutes tonight.

817
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: The only starter didn't play major minutes is Nurkic, and

818
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: he he played fourteen minutes. But everybody else going with

819
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: at thirty nine, KD was at forty one, Grayson Allen

820
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: was at thirty three, and Book was at thirty six. Uh.

821
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: Let's uh.

822
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: The the Rockets a young young team.

823
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: I think they're still the youngest team. I mean, they're

824
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: really really young.

825
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: What I like, uh Udoka, I think that's the way

826
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: to say, I would say, ka is ka I may.

827
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: What what what what? I love some goon? Yeah? Someons?

828
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: Well what what what are the rockets? What are the

829
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: rockets need? How do the rockets they're they're so, they're so.

830
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: They have a whole bunch of pieces, right, It's like

831
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: it's like having a whole bunch of clothes but no outfit. Right,

832
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: figure out how to put it together. And you know,

833
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: with signing Dylan Brooks and signing Van Fleet, you kind

834
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: of got some experience with them, but your your focal

835
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: point where your your future is gonna be Jalen Green,

836
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Uh Sun Goon and Jabari Smith. He he ain't giving

837
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: me enough, right, No, no, no, no, I agree, I agree,

838
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: I agree, And I don't know if you know, I

839
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: don't know if saying good and it's taken away from him,

840
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: but the way he saying going passes it.

841
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 2: He should be eating.

842
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: He should be eating, you know, in that in that position,

843
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: and it should open up the court. But you know,

844
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: right now, I think they're trying to figure out what

845
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: guys to keep, what guys they can paget, who to

846
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: play like some of these teams, you know, playing eleven

847
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: man ten man deep.

848
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: Some of y'all don't got teams like that, right, y'all

849
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: don't got them type of rosters to be subbing in

850
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: the tenth man, Right, y'all should get y'all ass whoof

851
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: putting in number ten? Yeah? I mean you look at this.

852
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean they got guys that played Jake Londale for

853
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: the Rocket play twelve minutes. Amen Thompson played seventeen with

854
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: more played played eighteen, Holiday played twenty four. Easton played

855
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean they got and plus that. That's

856
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: not even the starters. Those are those are the guys

857
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: that came off the bench, yep. I mean nobody played

858
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: more than three twenty nine minutes. That was van Fleet

859
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: and Sengoon. And this is the problem with teams like this,

860
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: when you got a young team, where's the days where

861
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: like Alan Iverson right, he averaged forty one minutes for

862
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: his career. You guys have all the technology, now, you

863
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: got all the medicine, and you're telling me you're playing

864
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: less they are.

865
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: Right, Where's where's my.

866
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Guys where I can like Jalen Green, all my young guys,

867
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: y'all need to play forty two forty three minutes you

868
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: need to get these days, Gil.

869
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

870
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: They got too much technology, they got too much minutes

871
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: minutes in medicine, because if you look at it, baseball

872
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: used to have four man rotations and three man rotations.

873
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: Now you got five man rotations and you got set

874
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: up men, and you got closes. You see, we know

875
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: too much and that's the problem. Well it's taxic well

876
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: Hill it is. It didn't tax the other guys that

877
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't at tax Steve Cartins elbow, yeah, Gibson, Jenny McClean,

878
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: guys used to throw.

879
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: I mean, the likelihood of us ever seen.

880
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the likelihood of us consistently seeing three

881
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: hundred strikeouts? A guy's pitching three hundred innings, two hundred

882
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: and fifty eight. I mean, it's not guys, go five

883
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: to six inning.

884
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: That's it. Turn it over, turn it over to the

885
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: middle of the bullpen.

886
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: You got middle relief, you got set up, you got

887
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: somebody to close it out.

888
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 2: I think.

889
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 1: So, I think that's what basketball. I mean, Hell, we'll

890
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: play will play forty eight and a half minutes for

891
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: an entire season. Now you mind you there's only forty

892
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: eight minutes in the game. So he played. I mean

893
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: think about what look at Wilton numbers. Look and guys

894
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: played like you said, major major minutes forty minutes. I

895
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: mean Jordan, I mean there were a couple of years.

896
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean early in Lebron Caerer Lebron played for had

897
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: a season he played forty one minutes. No, that was common.

898
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't think the guy's not playing like that anymore,

899
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: you know what I think it is, And it would

900
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: make sense from a financial standpoint or as an owner,

901
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: right where I have someone like a Jalen Green, right,

902
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: instead of him playing forty three forty four minutes, I

903
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: play him thirty two to thirty three.

904
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 2: Right.

905
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: Instead of having him for ten years, I got him

906
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: for sixteen years of greatness.

907
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: Now.

908
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: So I think with the time restriction, I think is

909
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: it's making their careers a little bit longer, so I

910
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: have the asset longer. And I think that's what it

911
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: seems like is going on, that they're taking away two

912
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: minutes to stretch the career out. Okay, you know, but

913
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: that makes it yet, you know, we have to we

914
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: have to sit there and ask that why isn't he

915
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: playing forty minutes and saving ten minutes a game? Adds

916
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: to your years, right right, you know, but I'm a

917
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Scovias coach.

918
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: I need to win. I'm trying to win.

919
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's address what k KD denied, report that he's frustrated.

920
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: Would said, somebody else feels that I'm frustrated and it

921
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: turned into me being mentally checked out.

922
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: That is crazy.

923
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: These people can plant outline my name and make it

924
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: up and you people will believe it. But when my

925
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: teammates and coaches speak on how I am as a teammate,

926
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: you ignore it.

927
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: Lol.

928
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: Gil KD. Look at your history. People were reporting that

929
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: you were unhappy in OKC. You denied that you book

930
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: it out of town. People say there was some grumblings

931
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: about you were feeling some type of way that you

932
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: weren't being looked at and thought of like Clay Stephen

933
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: and Dramond. You booked it and later came out you

934
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: was never going to be accepted. There was report that

935
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: KD might ask for a trade and he was unhappy

936
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn in the direction and here you are in Phoenix.

937
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: So God forbid us from believing what they say when

938
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: everything that has ever been said about you, for the

939
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: most part, has turned out to be true. I think

940
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: the only issue he probably has an issue with is

941
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: saying he checked out, right, Yeah, Like if I'm if

942
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm him and I'm reading that, what do you mean

943
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: check out? I'm imaging thirty at night. I'm giving them

944
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: my all. I'm coming to work day in and night,

945
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: day out. Right, Katie is a student of the game, okay,

946
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: meaning he don't have he don't have life outside of basketball.

947
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: All he does as y'all can see, you tweet something,

948
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: He's on it, right, So you tweet right. If I

949
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: d him at right now, within three minutes, he's gonna

950
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: look at it.

951
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: Right.

952
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: So he's in tuned with everything that's going on, and

953
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: he's watching games.

954
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: He's probably watching this show, right. Is that a good

955
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: or bad thing? Good thing?

956
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: The best players, they they're in tune with everything that's

957
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: going on, and sometimes that in tune, iss is what

958
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: frustrates you because the rest of your teammates is not

959
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: in tune with me. So expressing frustration versus being frustrated,

960
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: it's two different things.

961
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: Right, I can be.

962
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: Mad at the moment in time, but these are my

963
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: guys right right, Like I'm I'm upset that they're not

964
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: getting it. Done, they're not working hard and not getting

965
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: back on D all of that, like when Book said,

966
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: oh you're gonna turn the ball over and not get

967
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: back on D. Right, I'm frustrated now, but I'm not

968
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: frustrated with.

969
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Who the person is. Okay, right, And sometimes you know.

970
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: This guy might play hard, but I'm frustrating. I'm frustrated

971
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: at his work ethic, but he performs well, you got

972
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: you got two different type of elements that that goes

973
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: on on a team. So I don't think he's frustrated

974
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: to the point where he wants to trade.

975
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: He's probably frustrated.

976
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: With the circumstances where him and Book that he requested. Yeah, yeah,

977
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: you requested. But the thing about it is you're worse

978
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: than you were last year. And that's the frustrating part.

979
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. What are they

980
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: gonna trade? They traded all the assets to get him,

981
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: So what are they gonna What are they gonna What

982
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: are they gonna The old saying that what you want

983
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: me to give stuff?

984
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: We'd asked him out what what are we gonna do

985
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: to get him? Bill?

986
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: We gave up everything, We gave up our future to

987
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: get Kevin durant, So what we're gonna trade books?

988
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 2: Don't chev this? H what? What? What are we gonna

989
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: give up?

990
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: I think the more of the frustration, like if I'm

991
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: if I'm him, what I'm gonna be frustrated is just.

992
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 2: Where we are as a team, right right.

993
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: We we were this close last year, this close, right,

994
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: and we made a trade for Bill. The pieces we

995
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: made for Bill were pieces that helped. Well, if Bill's

996
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: not in, those pieces that help were not. So technically

997
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: we're worse than we were last year. So I think

998
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: at this point in time, he's like, man, it's December,

999
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: is about to be January, Bill. We need Bill to

1000
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: come back so we can just prove how good we are.

1001
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 2: And sometimes when you're.

1002
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: Under manned and you going out there and everyone's judging

1003
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: you like, yeah, the Suns they look weak this year,

1004
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, we don't have all our pieces

1005
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: to be great right now. And that's that's a frustrating,

1006
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: frustrating part where you know that that big key is Bill,

1007
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: who's gonna be averaging twenty when he gets healthy, right,

1008
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: But you know, sometime the mistake that people can make

1009
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: is that Okay, he averaged he wants average thirty.

1010
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 2: Kad No can give us thirty. He led the league

1011
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 2: in scoring four time.

1012
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: And we know what book is where we just put

1013
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: all this together just because you put a whole bunch

1014
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: of knife stuff. Look, I like ice cream, I like

1015
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: graybig and chicken. I just don't like it all together.

1016
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: And just because you got three guys that can average thirty,

1017
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's gonna work. Somebody has to be

1018
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice. Now, look understand that that that book

1019
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: you're playing in unnatural position. He's not a point either two,

1020
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: but he has to play because they had to give

1021
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: up Chris Paul and I understand that Bradley Beal has

1022
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: been hurt. Kevin and Rant is whatever you need. He

1023
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: doesn't really need the ball. He can get his own.

1024
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: He can play with his back to the basket. He

1025
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: got the heads they pull up, he got the three

1026
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: point shot. You file him, and he's going to the

1027
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: free throw line. He's gonnakno ninety percent of those down.

1028
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: But at at some point in time, Gil, you gotta

1029
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: play some defense.

1030
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: And the question is when they get to the playoffs,

1031
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: and if they get down by let's say five points,

1032
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: can they get stopped when they absolutely have to have one.

1033
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the question when we get there, right,

1034
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: is we don't need to play defensive whole game. Just

1035
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: if we're in that time and we need to make

1036
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: that guaranteed stop.

1037
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: Can we do it? Are we capable of doing it?

1038
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be something that when the playoffs come,

1039
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to prove. Those three guys are perfect

1040
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: for each other because they can all do the same thing,

1041
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: which means if I'm a catch and shoot guy and

1042
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: you're a dreamer penetration guy, you can post up. You

1043
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: get we don't affect each other's realm because we all

1044
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: play in different rams. All three can play io, all

1045
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: three can flare, back door, post up, right, So you

1046
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: got three guys that can move around versus if you

1047
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: had someone like Shack right and Tim Duncan on the

1048
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: same court, that's conflict.

1049
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 2: They both want the right block, right, They're.

1050
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Gonna both fight for the right block, and none of

1051
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: them are dominant on the left side. Right right, Now,

1052
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: you got a confliction, and that's what happens with a teams.

1053
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: So with these three, it's a great puzzle. Right.

1054
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: They just got up you just gotta put them all

1055
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: on the court together and be healthy for twenty twenty

1056
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: something games.

1057
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: But did they.

1058
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: Factor in over the last several years of Bill's help,

1059
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: did anybody factor that in?

1060
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: M You've been hurt, Gil, He's been hurt.

1061
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: But listen, most medical staffs are cocky. They think, well,

1062
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: well y'all are y'all not us? You know we can

1063
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: get him healthy. And it's that weird thing. I don't

1064
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: know if you went through it, but I did. When

1065
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 1: you get injured, you do all this training to get

1066
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: back two games later, back injured, he started getting these

1067
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: random nick knacks for no reason.

1068
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: And that's where Bill is. And I say, that's where

1069
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: he got to cheat.

1070
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: He gotta he gotta cleanse, cleanse this how. I don't

1071
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: know why he gotta cleanse his house because he just

1072
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: got there. But you gotta cleanse something. Goddamn it. There's something,

1073
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: there's something in your life that's that's that's that's a

1074
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: negative hold onto your chie and you got to cleanse it.

1075
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: You gotta sit there with it. Just start removing people.

1076
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: I don't give fucking it's the dog. Get rid of

1077
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: the dog. If you think the dog is you gotta

1078
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: really like reset, right, because you know these knick knacks,

1079
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: it just keeps linger and linger and Lingeren he comes back.

1080
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: Oh you heard his shoulder come back, hurt his toe,

1081
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Like there's a reason this happens.

1082
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: You're off a line.

1083
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know when you start limping into the

1084
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: season and you get nick during the season, it's hard

1085
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: to get healthy because you come And that's what I

1086
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: tell guys.

1087
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: God, how am I supposed to normally?

1088
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: When when an average person is injured, they say take

1089
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: time off. Yeah, when you're a professional athlete, you don't

1090
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: get no time about try. They trying to rehab to

1091
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: get you back on the field. As a normal civilion,

1092
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: you're trying to rehab to go back to your normal life.

1093
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: But when you're a professional athlete, you're playing against the

1094
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: top in the world, and it ain't no average It

1095
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: ain't no normal life.

1096
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: No.

1097
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: The worst thing an athlete has against him as his ego.

1098
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: When we're injured, we don't come back to prove we're healthy.

1099
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: We come back to prove we're injured.

1100
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: Right.

1101
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I hope they see me limping and

1102
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: giving it my all. You know, I can go out

1103
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: there and play fifty percent. I can go out there

1104
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: and play eighty percent while I'm sitting there getting booed. Right, Oh,

1105
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: he's washed, he's this, and I'm trying. I'm coming back

1106
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: to prove to you that this was serious versus just

1107
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: getting healthy, and that is our issue.

1108
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: Right, we're watching the game. I don't care if it's

1109
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: a month or two weeks.

1110
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: We watched the game pass us by. We watch, you know,

1111
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: if I'm a point guard. I watched this guy score thirty.

1112
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: This guy, he's he's ranked in front of me. Now

1113
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm speeding up my process because I want to get

1114
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: I want to get my spot back. So right, I'm

1115
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: limping out here, knees swollen. I don't supposed to be playing.

1116
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: They said ten to twelve weeks. I'm back six to

1117
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: eight weeks. I'm fine knowing damn well, I can't be

1118
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: out here right. Findy ain't good enough because you got

1119
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: to be at the level where you were before you

1120
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: got injured. That's what makes you great. I mean, I

1121
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 1: don't care. Look, a race car with a flat tire

1122
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: ain't good. I don't care how many horsepower it got,

1123
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: because this not gonna perform like it did if it

1124
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: had four perfectly fine inflated tires.

1125
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: Yep.

1126
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: So if you come back and you're nick in the slightest,

1127
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: you become very average. An average gets eaten eating in

1128
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: professional sports.

1129
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. That's just the way

1130
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: it is.

1131
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: Unculture J asked one simple question, Uncle gil Win, or

1132
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: if will kd ever be content? I think it's happy

1133
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: asking for too much at this I think happy is

1134
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: asking too much at this point. I look up and

1135
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm expecting this man every seven eight months act for

1136
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: a trade.

1137
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I look, I understand, you know.

1138
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I can win a championship in Okay.

1139
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: See he went to the perfect situation called a lot

1140
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: of criticism, and I don't think people was upset. I

1141
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: think people were more upset that you joined that team,

1142
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: the team that knocked you out when you had them

1143
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: down three to one, and you say, well that okay.

1144
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 1: You go there, you win two championships, your finals MVP,

1145
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: you probably would have one a third had your Kilees

1146
00:56:59,000 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: not gone out.

1147
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: And then you move on. You want to go to Brooklyn.

1148
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: You you recruit Kyrie or Kyrie recruited you, and you

1149
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: end up in Brooklyn and you're.

1150
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: Not having there and for whatever reason, you wanted to

1151
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: move on.

1152
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, bro, I mean what I mean, what

1153
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: what if if I were to ask you, because you

1154
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: played this sport and you kind of know him somewhat,

1155
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: you kind of been maybe you've been around him, what's

1156
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: he looking for?

1157
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: He's looking to play basketball? That it seems it seems

1158
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: simple right where.

1159
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: When you're talking about a guy who I mean, let

1160
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: me see how many scoring.

1161
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: Titles KD got? Four? Yeah? Right? And when people ask

1162
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 2: why he left?

1163
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: Right when you're talking about fire and Scott uh for

1164
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: scoring titles you had probably about with ten all NBAS,

1165
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: you had an MVP, you have All Star MVPs, right,

1166
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: eight time All Star, two goal When you're a free agent,

1167
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: the only thing that you don't have on your resume

1168
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: was a ship in the finals MVP. Right, You get

1169
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: those two out of the way. In his mind or

1170
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: just in my mind? What am I proving here? The

1171
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: only thing I'm proving now is get more?

1172
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: Right? Do I need four rings? Like?

1173
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: Like?

1174
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: Am I the greatest small for what? Ever? Am I

1175
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: a second greatest small ford? Ever? Like am I one

1176
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: of the top five? Ever? Like right, I.

1177
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: Train, I work out, I train, I go to sleep basketball. Right,

1178
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm out there, you know, putting my heart into it.

1179
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: As I think as players, we can sleep great at

1180
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: night knowing that we give it are all and whatever

1181
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: comes with it comes with it. But I don't really

1182
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: think he's looking for something. I just think he wants

1183
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: to play high level basketball most most most players do

1184
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: the great ones, right, if they're in position to win chips,

1185
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: are gonna go for it.

1186
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: Other than that, they just.

1187
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: Want to go out there and play hard, and everybody

1188
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: with them going out there and playing hard. Gil you know,

1189
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: going to Golden State hurt him more than it helped him.

1190
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: I understand he got the chips, but unless he gets

1191
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: one without Steph Curry, you already know how this story

1192
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: is going to be written. You know that, And unfortunately

1193
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: I think Kade knows that fair or unfair, right or wrong,

1194
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: but is what it is.

1195
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1196
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: But when we think of it like that, right, it's

1197
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: not like he can go to a team and he

1198
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: is by himself and try to win a championship.

1199
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: Right, But he recruited Kyrie, he had James Harden.

1200
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so no matter where he goes in this lead today.

1201
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: There has to be a team up. So when he

1202
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: do win, they're gonna say, well, you got Bill over

1203
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: that got nah. I think the thing is with Steph.

1204
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you join a two time, you join a

1205
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: unanimous MVP. And Steph Curry was already at that point

1206
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: in time, the greatest shooter we had ever seen, and

1207
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: so that system and I get it. Okay, I just

1208
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: want to get y'all off my back. Let me go

1209
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: ahead and get these titles. I get these titles. I'll

1210
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: calm it down. No people looking at you, like, Bro,

1211
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: there was twenty nine other teams that you could have joined,

1212
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: twenty eight because you had left. OKC, there's twenty eight

1213
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: other teams, and you mean to tell me you go

1214
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: join the team that had just won seventy three games

1215
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: and just lost in a Game seven in the NBA Finals.

1216
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: That was the only team you can find. Okay.

1217
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I'm a free agent. I'm a free agent,

1218
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: and as a free agent, I can go wherever I

1219
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: want to go.

1220
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: Fine.

1221
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: For whatever reason be it, he had grown board of winning.

1222
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean he said, you just want to play high

1223
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: level basketball? Can you play any high level than the

1224
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors and going and being three NBA finals

1225
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: you win to probably would have won a third had

1226
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: he not gotten injured. So where are you gonna go

1227
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: and play higher level than that? So who are you

1228
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna go play with? Other than Lebron or at that

1229
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: time Lebron and Lebron and Katie and step would thought

1230
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: of as the best players in the NBA with Hard

1231
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: and falling up under that. So now who are gonna

1232
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: go play with? Joel Ebi, Nicole Yoki? Now where can

1233
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: he go?

1234
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: Now? I don't know where he can go.

1235
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how he outruns because he had four years.

1236
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: The first year we're gonna disregard that he was rehabbing,

1237
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: but he had three years and he didn't come close.

1238
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: But it's not because of him, right, you know the

1239
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: stuff that went down in Brooklyn, he was there. He

1240
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: did his thing, right, you know, he but we give

1241
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: him credit, But we give him credit for with the

1242
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: Golden State. But that's what I'm saying. We can't say

1243
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: if he loses, it's not because of him. But when

1244
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: Golden State won the titles, it was because of him.

1245
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: But it was because of him White. But why can't

1246
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: he win on his own Why can't he win other

1247
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: than Golden State? The that's that's I think that's the

1248
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: I think that's the question. Gil people want to know

1249
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: if if it was him in Golden State, why.

1250
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: Can't he do replicate? What? Why can't he take what

1251
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: he learned and take it somewhere else?

1252
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Because he was he he he was a single player

1253
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: coming to a team atmosphere. He was plugging playing. Now

1254
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: he has to build a team around him where he

1255
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: can just adjust to one person adjust Now when he

1256
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: tried to create a team, everyone has.

1257
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: To adjust to everything.

1258
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: We can talk about how Kevin Durant going to Golden

1259
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: State was a bad thing. It was the best thing

1260
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: that the league has ever seen, and they do not

1261
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge it.

1262
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: Since Magic and Bird, what was.

1263
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: The best duo going against each other in the championship

1264
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: Lebron versus k D. Yeah, but Lebron versus KD, not

1265
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: Lebron versus KD. Steph dre bardy Clay.

1266
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: The best, the best small forwards in the game.

1267
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know why this wasn't looked at like

1268
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: two Titans, the best player in the world versus the

1269
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: second best player in the world. Right one called himself,

1270
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm the best score in the world versus the best player.

1271
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: You had two Titans playing against each other, and we

1272
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: spent our time talking about We spent our time talking

1273
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: about Katie leaving, not realizing what we was witnessing.

1274
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: We ain't got no problem with him, leave it now.

1275
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, we was witnessing that Kevin Durant.

1276
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: And like when we all talk about Kobe, the one

1277
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: thing that we didn't get to see is Kobe and

1278
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: Lebron in the championship again, correct, we got to see

1279
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and Lebron go.

1280
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: Face to face. Right, we got the Magic and Bird.

1281
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: But we're never going to acknowledge this because we was

1282
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: upset that he took the easy the easy way out right.

1283
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: And but I think the thing is when we look

1284
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: at Magic and Bird, magic Handkaree Bird had Michale, he

1285
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: had Worthy, he had Perish, they had Byron Scott, they

1286
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: had dj Or you know. So it was like, Okay,

1287
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: you got for Hall of Famers, we got for Hall

1288
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: of Famers. Okay, you got a coach that's that's going

1289
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: to the hall. We got one that's going to the hall.

1290
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: So I think everybody looked at it as as an

1291
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: even matchup. I don't think anybody thought that the way

1292
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: that Khalimity, even though it was Kyrie and Lebron was

1293
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna be able to beat Golden State with Steph Clay,

1294
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: k D and Draymond, that wasn't gonna happen.

1295
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: No, I thought, and I think that. I think that's

1296
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: what that's.

1297
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: What the You know, when k D and and and

1298
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: and and Lebron locked horns in Miami and OKC, you're like, okay,

1299
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, okay, Serge Obaka and and uh Chris Bosh,

1300
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: we got Russ d Wade and now k D and

1301
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: Lebron and they had to guard each other. Yeah, I

1302
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: mean they had to guardian. But that was a great

1303
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: match up. But you know, it was young. It was

1304
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: young versus a veteran. And then but when that Golden

1305
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: State Cleveland Cavaliers series got, because you know it was

1306
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: it was gonna be between those two. I wish after

1307
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: they wanted, after Cleveland wanted and Golden State got Kevin Durant,

1308
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: I thought Cleveland should have made a move.

1309
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 2: No, it don't matter. You should have known you was

1310
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 2: gonna be outgunned. Who you gonna give up.

1311
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: First of all, who wanted to come to Cleveland? That

1312
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: was the problem. While Lebron got up out of there

1313
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: or another facts, But at this point looked like j R.

1314
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 1: Smith was my web. He was Mike Klay Thompson. Right,

1315
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: you know Clay is averaging twenty one, Yes, j R.

1316
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: Smith averaging thirteen?

1317
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, like you know what I mean?

1318
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: So right, it was really.

1319
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: It was really out matched.

1320
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: So from there they should have been in tune with

1321
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: the game and said, Okay, we might need to upgrade

1322
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

1323
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: We're not good enough.

1324
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: To try to go back to back right first name,

1325
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: last name said Gil Gil was a great addition, Shannon.

1326
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you said Katie and Kyrie will

1327
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: potentially play together when they were seeing at the All

1328
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: Star Game talking Katie last out said.

1329
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: It was some bs they joined. They joined.

1330
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: I just said, I remember, I said, look and I

1331
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: tried and I played him a compliment, I said, kat

1332
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 1: joining Golden State was like Johnny Gill joining New Edition.

1333
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: Johnny Gil could out sing them all. He know the

1334
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: outstanding career Bobby Brown had. We know what Ralph Transvat did.

1335
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: We knew what bell Bill devout ended up doing once

1336
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: they broke up, but none of them singularly could out

1337
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: sing Johnny Gill. And the reason why Johnny Gill wasn't

1338
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: accepted he didn't grow.

1339
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: Up in Boston and Roxbury.

1340
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, facts, k D was never gonna be And I'm

1341
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: not saying they didn't like him, but Kate, but Steph

1342
01:06:55,320 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: Clay Draymond came there, They was birthed, they grew up there.

1343
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: Although k D.

1344
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: Was k D, it wasn't going to be accepted. He

1345
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: called me, Oh, this you don't know what you're talking about. Wow,

1346
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: that's an ignorant thing to say, lady. He get on

1347
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: the podcast, like I was never gonna be accepted, like

1348
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: Katie's death because.

1349
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: Bro I said, I said that. But you know we

1350
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: delusion on sometimes, you know what I mean? Come on,

1351
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: just like in our relationship.

1352
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: Hey, our boys are the first one to tell us, Hey,

1353
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: your girl cheating on you.

1354
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: Ah nah. She never died that. She ain't like that.

1355
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: She ain't like that, right gout to found out she

1356
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: just liked that. Yes, And that's and that's.

1357
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: The same that's the same thing. Like we don't want to.

1358
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: Believe right that it is this and we have to find.

1359
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: Out the hard way. He had to find out on

1360
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: that court when he's.

1361
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: Asking for the ball. He had to sit there and

1362
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: go back.

1363
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: Back and forth with Draymond Green, and Draymond Green had

1364
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: to let him know.

1365
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: We was here before you. We don't need you. That

1366
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: hurt it did? Oh we want to finish that season. Uh.

1367
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how I can come to work knowing

1368
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: that you really believe that deep down inside?

1369
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: Why amos three?

1370
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: People will tell you the truth, Gil Drunks, kids and

1371
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: angry people, they gonna tell you the truth. Now see,

1372
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: they'll blame it on I just said thing out of anger.

1373
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: So I was drunk. I didn't know what I was

1374
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: thinking talking about. And kids, you know they say kids

1375
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: say the darnest thing. So I got a way to

1376
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: brush off either one of those.

1377
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1378
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and I'm gonna say something and

1379
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: tell me what you think. If you notice, Draymond Green's

1380
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: behavior is always when he thinks someone is about to

1381
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: replace him as a member of the Big Three. When

1382
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: KD came, it's about to be Kad Stephan Clay, he

1383
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: says what he says Jordan Poole all of a sudden,

1384
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: it's about to be Jordan Poole, Stephan Clay.

1385
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: He does what he does. Now, it's gonna be very

1386
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: very interesting to see how they handle Commando because does

1387
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: that rough with dra because.

1388
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: Draymond like, I'm a member of the Big three, and

1389
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: Nothing's going to upset that because that's just Look. I

1390
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: could be totally wrong, but there's something to be said

1391
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: for Draymond and the way Draymond has behaved with KD

1392
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: with Jordan Pooh. Now, I don't know, if anything, I

1393
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: have not heard anything about Kaminga, but I did hear

1394
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: what Minga said because hard to kind of play my

1395
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: game because I got to make sure the OG's get

1396
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: the ball. So how do I do what I need

1397
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: to do to show what I can do and still

1398
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, show difference to the Ogs.

1399
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be very interesting moving forward. So Timbo,

1400
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: what you think?

1401
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, you know there might be a little territorial

1402
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: you know thing going on with Draymond, right, and you

1403
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: know the one thing you don't want to do is

1404
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: you don't want to be forgotten, right, And you know,

1405
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I think, you know, it seemed like the more

1406
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: his game is dwindling, down the more he's acting out. Yes,

1407
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: he knows his time is coming and he's going to

1408
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: be put on that bench. And that's when all the

1409
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: people who don't like him are going to be.

1410
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: Able to laugh. Right, I think he's ready for that laughter.

1411
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: The four rings, the four rings don't help that ego

1412
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 2: at that moment in time. They don't win.

1413
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: Whether they don't win, I don't believe they win any

1414
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: of those titles without Draymond. No, but being benched, them

1415
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: four rings don't. They don't mean nothing anymore. I can't

1416
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: see him on your finger with you on the bench. Yeah,

1417
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: now tell me about it. But you can put him

1418
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: on it at the conference where you at the podium.

1419
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: But right at that point in time, and now you

1420
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: give everybody because everybody, oh Draymond is the king of

1421
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: the triple single and they're saying all these things. I

1422
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: think he's a phenomenal player, I do. I mean I

1423
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: think his physicality. Do I think he goes over the line. Absolutely?

1424
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: Do.

1425
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: I think he's done some things that he didn't need

1426
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: to do. Absolutely. But the problem is is that they

1427
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: didn't check it before. I can't wait to My dog

1428
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: is two years old before I correct him about potting

1429
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: in the house, and then all of a sudden he

1430
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: potted in the house again. I'm like, what are you

1431
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: doing When you didn't correct him when he was a puppy.

1432
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: You let Draymond get out of control. And so now

1433
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: when you don't win, you accepted it when you were winning.

1434
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: Huh.

1435
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: You you accepted Draymond's behavior when you was winning. And

1436
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer, as Mike Shanahan told me in

1437
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, you never accepted anything in a win,

1438
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have a loss. So if Draymond's behavior is

1439
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: unacceptable when you're losing, it should have been unacceptable when

1440
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: you're winning.

1441
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 2: Because when they say winning masks a lot, it does.

1442
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: It masked the undercurrent of what was going on in

1443
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: Golden State that were just in the moment things don't

1444
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: go the way that they think it should.

1445
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: Draymond pops his head about the water. Oh yeah, that's

1446
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's gonna be real interesting because he

1447
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: was the vocal point. He was the heartbeat.

1448
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: And when they decide to say, all right, Kaminga, this

1449
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: is your spot, is the heartbeat gonna stop beating? I

1450
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: think this is one of those things where for the

1451
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: betterment of the team, he's gonna have to pull a

1452
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: rust and he's gonna have to look around and say,

1453
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: all right, I did all I can do. It's time

1454
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: for me to take a back seat and give all

1455
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: my energy to Kaminga and then I can come in back.

1456
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to pull a U D right as

1457
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: long as he as long as he wants his name called.

1458
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the gain Draymond Green, the team

1459
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: dies because he don't have it like he used to.

1460
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: He's not as fast, strong, right, he still got the

1461
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: smart the IQ level is very very very high, right,

1462
01:12:55,080 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to sacrifice and realize the Big

1463
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: three is falling off. Yeah, you're gonna have it. Ain't

1464
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: really no big two because Clay is not the same.

1465
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: Clay can't get first. But Clay ended up going to

1466
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: the bench in the fourth quarter. That'll never been I mean,

1467
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: and and look as we start the age and Clay

1468
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: had two devastating injuries for promison Lam believe he had

1469
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: a mki Lees and an acl and he had him

1470
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: in his thirties and commend him for coming back and

1471
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: playing at the level. But he's not the same step

1472
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm excuse me, the same Clay Draymond is starting to

1473
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: get older. He's not the same, he doesn't move the same,

1474
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: but the behavior. See Draymond needs to understand the toleration

1475
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: until they.

1476
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: Can replace you. Yeah, and they tolerated his behavior.

1477
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: And because they couldn't replace you now and at some

1478
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: point in time, even though you were the heartbeat and

1479
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: you mean so much to this team, seven points five

1480
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: rebounds in two, three or fourth, siss ain't gonna cut it.

1481
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know how.

1482
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: I don't know how you it's a it's I feel

1483
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: bad for Steve Kerr because you don't want to mention

1484
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: because Kaminga hasn't taken this spot.

1485
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: Correct. But with Kamingo on the floor, he's just a

1486
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: different breed of a guy. Right.

1487
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: He gives you something that you guys didn't have, right, Right,

1488
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: a guy who has bounced at the little right, he

1489
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: got his own one on one move. He can create

1490
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: his own shot. He's very aggressive steel, which is surprising.

1491
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been there for a couple of years.

1492
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: You would think he would have lost his aggression, but

1493
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 1: he's still assion he has the confidence that he can't

1494
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: be stopped, right, you need that to play out. That

1495
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,919
Speaker 1: is going to be a tough decision for Steve Kerr

1496
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: to say, Draymond, you're starting. I wouldn't. I wouldn't right.

1497
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Yodre, You're gonna have to come up

1498
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: with the B. I want to see what he's been

1499
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: playing very well since you've been on the bench.

1500
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 2: You know, let's let's let's give me a couple more games.

1501
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: You know what, Gil, The problem with Golden State is

1502
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: that a lot of these problems that Andrew Wiggins isn't

1503
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: playing well at the same time Klay Thompson isn't playing

1504
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: well at the same time Draymond Green has suspended. Yeah,

1505
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: so you kind of got you kind of got like

1506
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: a little mini hurricane, a little many earthquake, and a

1507
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: little mini tornado all.

1508
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: Together and in one spot.

1509
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: And the problem is, and this is why being the

1510
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: third option feels amazing, because nobody's paying attention to you,

1511
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: No old one, No one is talking about Wiggins playing horrible.

1512
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: And he bit and he's been good and terrible. Yeah,

1513
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 2: and and and it's it's weird like when you're that

1514
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: third option when you don't have no.

1515
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: Pressure on you, you get to go out there and

1516
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: be trash without any pushback.

1517
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: Right, No one's going to write about you, No one cares. Right.

1518
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: So the fact that Draymond is being blamed.

1519
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 1: For what's going on in Golden State, it kind of

1520
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: let us know how important he was then to the winning. Yes, yes, absolutely,

1521
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: And people that don't believe that he was important to

1522
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: women winning is in that fact that you don't really

1523
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: like draymona you don't really understand the importance of what

1524
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: he brought to that ball club.

1525
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just can't measure everything.

1526
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: By points, rebounds and assists because he does a lot

1527
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: of the dirty work. Everybody can't be the bank president.

1528
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 1: Somebody got to be the security guard. Somebody got to

1529
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: be the cashier. Somebody got to be the custodia. Somebody

1530
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: got to clean that place up at night.

1531
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he stops light security, all right.

1532
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: Arvernham calls our cam reddish and Jared Vanderbilt can't be

1533
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: confused with can't be confused with the ball Ham said,

1534
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: I was just I'm just not I'm not I just

1535
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: think not allowing it to be stacked to stagnate us

1536
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: if they're trying to play off. Cam got to step

1537
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: up with confidence or eat up space on the drive,

1538
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: collapse the defense. Once he touches the bank drive, find

1539
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: the open man. Same thank for vandal ball. Hears him

1540
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,520
Speaker 1: and he just can't hold it. Be confused.

1541
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 2: He called them out and not himself. You put them Sorry,

1542
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 2: motherfucker's in the game.

1543
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: Nobody told you to sub a dude who averages one

1544
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: point five and put him.

1545
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: As a starter.

1546
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 1: Right, that's that show, like when you're gonna take responsibility

1547
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: for the lineups you putting out, like you have the

1548
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: the Lakers starting five the way it was, they were

1549
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: only averaging eighty two points as a starting five, which

1550
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: is low.

1551
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 2: Right, you sub Lebron and Ad averaging fifty.

1552
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: So the rest of your team that, like the rest

1553
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: of your starters, is only putting up there. That is

1554
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: a low starting five. Eighty two points is low. Now

1555
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: you sub in Van and take out Russ, which pushes

1556
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: you down to sixth. It's the eight points a game,

1557
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: just to show you how bad that is. The worst

1558
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: team in the NBA, the Detroit Pistons, they're averaging sixty nine.

1559
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: You know, they're averaging seventy three points as a starting five.

1560
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: So the Detroit Pistons starting five is better than the

1561
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 1: Lakers starting five right now, and per point production, what.

1562
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: What defense are you looking for?

1563
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody you need to be in order for them

1564
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: to justify the defense is like, oh, they're supposed to

1565
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: be defensive guys. They need to be Dennis Johnson. They

1566
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: need to be Alvin Robertson, they need to be they

1567
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: need to be Dennis Rodman of somebody, somebody on the

1568
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: ball like that.

1569
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 2: But you can't. You cannot give me one point.

1570
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: Let's just say Vando gives us two, three, and cam

1571
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: Reddi gives us. Say come on, bro, that's not enough.

1572
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: Eleven points and we got got and you're playing twenty

1573
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: five to thirty minutes three and eight points is not enough.

1574
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: It's just not you got three got Like a d

1575
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: is a defensive player, Lebron is defensive player, but he's

1576
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: thirty nine. I got enough defense to put all offense, right.

1577
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: I have guys who can block shots to put enough

1578
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: offense out there.

1579
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1580
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 1: This is crazy because their losses, they scored ninety four

1581
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: points one on one, ninety four, one on nine, one

1582
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: oh eight, one ten, one eleven one fifteen. You're not

1583
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: you can't score right, you're not moving fast enough with

1584
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: the units you have. You know what, this reminds me

1585
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: of what he did right here reminds me of the

1586
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: two thousand. It was a two, is it the twenty twenty?

1587
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: The two thousand?

1588
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty Clippers team where they.

1589
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: Use this is the deepest team. They got the deepest bench. Yeah,

1590
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: you got the deepest bench. You'll start in five? Was

1591
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: sorry at shit right starting five? You had what could

1592
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: you break? Yeah, cause you break, you bring your sweed

1593
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: low and trails, and they they played. They playing more

1594
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 1: minutes at reserves than you started.

1595
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. Pat Kawaian PG, you.

1596
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: Got forty points coming off the bench with two players.

1597
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: Of course your bench is deep. So your bench was

1598
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: number one in the NBA in scoring. You're starting five

1599
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: was twenty fifth. You're averaging sixty nine points because you

1600
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: got Zubab, Pat, Bev and Mo who's averaging seven, eight

1601
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: and five.

1602
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: You're not deep. You got four players. Five, You got

1603
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: four players. That's it. You're just trying to trick the

1604
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 2: two of them come off the bench. Yeah, you're trying

1605
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: to take two starters. Put them off the bench.

1606
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got this this deep team, because you

1607
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: know in the NBA, it's hard to blow a team

1608
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: out in the first five six minutes, right, so you

1609
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: know at the six minute mark you can sub in

1610
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: your two and then get the rolling and let these

1611
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: guys get a little bit of minutes.

1612
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: Right.

1613
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: Oh you did, good boys, Now go sit down and

1614
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: let the real players get in. I hate, I hate,

1615
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: I hate lineups like that, right, you trying, you're just

1616
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: trying to trick like your team is good, but knowing

1617
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: damn well, if a team got old note and oh

1618
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: in the first one minute of the game, get you

1619
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: all glasses out, tread get your classes in, right, and

1620
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 1: that happens. That happened a couple of times. But I

1621
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: have to have a balanced team. And the fact that

1622
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: you have Ruy, Austin and Russell coming off the bench, like,

1623
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we got you know, forty some points coming

1624
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: up the bench.

1625
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got forty something coming up the bench.

1626
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: But you're starting five is only scoring sixty points, right,

1627
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: you got Lebron James and in Ad scoring fifty, and

1628
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: you got the other three guys they're putting in ten

1629
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: Like the stop stop these dumb ass lineups. Yeah, because

1630
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: and hair is the thing, and you tell me these guys,

1631
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: but they still can't stop dribble penetration. Guys will still

1632
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: getting pass vando, you're still getting past camp and they're

1633
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: kicking the ball to the corner for wide open threes.

1634
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: So if if you're supposed to be a defensive guy,

1635
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna get hair, if I'm out an

1636
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: offensive guy, and this is why I approached it a

1637
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: gil when I played football, I've got to be more

1638
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: of an asset in the passing game than I am

1639
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: a liability in the run game. Yes, So in other words,

1640
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: if you are a liab, you've got to be a.

1641
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: Tremendous asset in the defensive end.

1642
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: If you're a liability on the offensive end, if you're

1643
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: a basketball player, and right now you're a liability on both.

1644
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: So if basically you're becoming unplayable because I don't know

1645
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: how you play, guy's gonna give me two points and

1646
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: then he's letting guys get passing and I got to

1647
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: slyly ad and the guy's passing the ball and the

1648
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: guy's laying it up or some help gotta come.

1649
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: And he's kicking it to the corner. Rob, What are

1650
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 2: you doing?

1651
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: I never, I never understood that, And it's weird because

1652
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: I would love to ask a defensive coach why they

1653
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: put these lineups in.

1654
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm an offensive player. I bread offense, right.

1655
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: The worst player that I wanted to see was so

1656
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: one like me that I had to guard you. Right,

1657
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna you want to face me Patrick Beverly's whoa, Oh,

1658
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: it's trouble for you, homeboy, because you're only You're here

1659
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: to play defense, not offense. So I'm resting half the time.

1660
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm giving you my all. That means it's like boxing, right,

1661
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: I get to punch you, but you got your hands tied.

1662
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: I get to punch on you while your hands sighed.

1663
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: The fact that you you gonna take three four shots

1664
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: a game?

1665
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: Why am I paying attention to you?

1666
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: That is the easiest night for me because there's no

1667
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: way you're gonna stop me from taking twenty thirty shots.

1668
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: But I don't have to give you no effort on

1669
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: the defense I get, I get to say, and the

1670
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: worst player I wanted to play with someone scoring like

1671
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: me because he's embarrassing me now right, So if I'm

1672
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: playing against the Lakers, and I'm Trey Young. Hell y'all,

1673
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: I want to play against Cam all day. You ain't

1674
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: embarrassing me at you ain't doing nothing. You just get

1675
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: to play defense all day. And I don't understand why

1676
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: they put these lineups out there, because you're you're helping

1677
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: the offensive team, because you're you're handicapping yourself. You're playing

1678
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: three on five on offense or two on five on offense. Right,

1679
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: and you're not good enough. The rules aren't made. My

1680
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: offense of book is one hundred times better than any

1681
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: rules you can put in. And that's the difference in

1682
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: today's game. Back then, it was sixty forty defense to offense. Right,

1683
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, you dribbled a certain way. You only had

1684
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 1: a certain amount of moves. Now the moves today, I

1685
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: can hold it a little bit, I can do either

1686
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: my creer. So now it's basically ninety to ten. There's

1687
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: no rule they can put in that hand checking all

1688
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: that them to what people talk, ain't no hand checking

1689
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: that can stop these moves today and p in progress

1690
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: that is that is that is trash, all of them.

1691
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 2: It was trash when it was in and you got soap.

1692
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 1: I mean guys can shoot the ball better, and guys

1693
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: can handle the ball better. You got two or three

1694
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: guys on every team that can make you look stupid

1695
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: handling the ball. Everybody got that. Everybody got that pool. Yeah,

1696
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: everybody got their heads. Okay, I'm going to and one.

1697
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys we see that? Everybody doing that?

1698
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean guys like who the who the l you?

1699
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: Where you with that move from? So the likelihood if

1700
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: you breaking somebody? Oh he's a defensive stopper, he goes, Man,

1701
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: them guys are too good, They too.

1702
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 2: Skilled too that it's it's you you.

1703
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: If I want to hunt a lion, I need a lion,

1704
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: because zel ain't going.

1705
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: He ain't going. He lunched me.

1706
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, exactly, He's lunched me. It's weird, right,

1707
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: d Loo said he wanted to be Derek White. We

1708
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 1: all laughed, Please be Derek White.

1709
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: God damn it.

1710
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: I beg you to be Dereck White now because Derrick

1711
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: White didn't want to just be a liability. I'm just

1712
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: a defensive player. Right there, you go in Boston, now, right,

1713
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: you got you know, you got the unicorn over there,

1714
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: which added extra offense. Right, Yes, you would have you

1715
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: would have thought that Derek White would be more of

1716
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: a defensive player because you don't need to score. He

1717
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: upped his scoring up. Yes, Yes, and that's what the Lake,

1718
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: that's what the Lakers need, d lo. I need you

1719
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: to up your production, not doc ress right right then

1720
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: you put up and up not because if you put

1721
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: pressure on the opposing team, I mean maybe it takes

1722
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: some of that zap out of them and they're not

1723
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: able to.

1724
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 2: Give you that work. Listen when you when you're trying

1725
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: to score.

1726
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: My my, my one thing that I always went into

1727
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: games when when I had to play against AI, when

1728
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I had to play against Steve Francis, when I had

1729
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: to play against Maulberry, I'm coming at you first. I'm

1730
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna come at you so hard that it makes you

1731
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: not want to play offense, thinking that if you don't shoot,

1732
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't shoot. NBA players really think that's the thing.

1733
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: But if I don't shoot against him, he won't shoot

1734
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: against me. Okay, that's your fault. And what I did

1735
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: when we start off the games and I was playing

1736
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: against the high level guards, the Steve Nashes, I'm trying

1737
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: to give them buckets early to set the tone.

1738
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,520
Speaker 2: I can't let Steve.

1739
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: Nash come and pick me to death. If you look

1740
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: at my games with Steve Nash, I made him a score.

1741
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Like when you look at our matchups against Steve Nash,

1742
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't having fifteen to seventeen.

1743
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: As sists thirty forty.

1744
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: Like, you're gonna have to match me point fer point

1745
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: if you want to keep up, You're not gonna be

1746
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: able to try to sit there and get your guys.

1747
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm scoring too fast. Makes you want to score too.

1748
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1749
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, I gotta take

1750
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: some of that zapp Like my grandma just say, okay,

1751
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: y'all stay out all night.

1752
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 2: You're going to church in the morning.

1753
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you not. You not fit the lag back there?

1754
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 1: If they ate, Oh uh uh, I'm gonna give you bucket.

1755
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna get this. You gotta make them work, and

1756
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 1: uh that's not happening. So it's gonna be very interesting

1757
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: to see what is starting line out look like tomorrow.

1758
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 1: The Laker players are reportedly frustrated with Darvin Ham's decision

1759
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: about starting lineup and their role. Frustration with players rolls

1760
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: and fluctuating minutes uncertainly regarding their roles and inconsistency and

1761
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: playing time. The communication gap between player between coaching staff

1762
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: and players appears to be widening, with players expressing confusion

1763
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: over the mixed messages they received. Reports say criticism has

1764
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: been directed at Ham's lineup choices and rotation, particularly perceived

1765
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: inconsistency and handling struggling struggling players. Some players, like Austin Reeves,

1766
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell, Ruy Hachimura reportedly face shorter leashes than when

1767
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 1: incounter difficulties, while other players or in France, Cam Reddish,

1768
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: enjoy longer leashes despite struggles on the court. We saw

1769
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: that they had no problem putting Austin Reeves on the bench.

1770
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: Remember he's struggling to start the season. Yeah, well, we

1771
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: talked the All Star and you know, we felt it

1772
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: would be bad for him to come out the bench.

1773
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Okay, what about the mother guys.

1774
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but him was a defensive player, I think, right,

1775
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't know he was on the bench when I

1776
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: was playing. He didn't get in the game, but most

1777
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: likely he was a defensive player. One of those guys

1778
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: that hustled it and that's his mindset. Yeah, right, you

1779
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: got a little bit of in you and you looking

1780
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: for it on the court, like these guys played the

1781
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: right way. Well, it's not the right way if they're

1782
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: not winning. Right, of course, Austin, Reeves, Rue and D'Angelo

1783
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: would be mad. They're your offense. So seeing this two

1784
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: or three shots, you put them on a bench. These

1785
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: guys don't even take three shots and they're playing right,

1786
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: So now you got Now what ends up happening is

1787
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: you start you start looking at the guys as enemies

1788
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: instead of teammates. Yeah, okay, right, you start footing the

1789
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: division inside the locker room because they're getting minutes that

1790
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 1: they haven't earned.

1791
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,879
Speaker 2: Right, he took three shots, he did.

1792
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: This, and he plays thirty minutes, And now what does

1793
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: that do to someone like D'Angelo? Right, Oh, if I

1794
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: don't do nothing, if I don't shoot, if I don't

1795
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 1: make no mistakes, I play longer.

1796
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 2: Right, Because that's what he's doing with this guy. Right.

1797
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 1: The fact that at this point in the season, you're

1798
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 1: still having fluctuation problems, letting you know, you don't know

1799
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: what's going on right now, you're still trying to find

1800
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: stuff instead of building on that that that championship mid season,

1801
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: in season mid season, whatever the season beginning of the season, right,

1802
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be building competent that was supposed to

1803
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,440
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom.

1804
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: And take it right, you have Rui, Rui and di'angelo.

1805
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: Should be starting, or Reeves and Cam and Cam and

1806
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: Prince Bo should be started. No North Van Doo, No

1807
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: hell no no, those three, two of those three should

1808
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: not be started. Did I didn't even I didn't even

1809
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: look at him as a starter. That that that that

1810
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: that looks like a friend hook up. You lost the bet.

1811
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: He looked like you lost the bet. Like all right, off,

1812
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, like I put him in right right, He's

1813
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: not He shouldn't even be playing minutes right now.

1814
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 2: They weren't warned, they weren't earned. Right.

1815
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: You can't just say all right, we're gonna go from

1816
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 1: averaging one and put me in. And I'm sitting there,

1817
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm also like, wait a minute, Matte, I'm averaging fifteen

1818
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: points a game, fifteen and you ain't even me. Yeah,

1819
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: you ain't thinking about me as a starter. What's wrong

1820
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 1: with you? That happens?

1821
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Like you're getting minutes. Think about it.

1822
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: You're getting minutes that you didn't deserve, and you think

1823
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it.

1824
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: No, because I'm watching.

1825
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: There's not one time that Jared Vanderbilt a shot a

1826
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: shot outside and it's done two minute that I actually

1827
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: thought it was going in be I'm watching on television

1828
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: or I'm actually sitting at the game.

1829
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: Not one time does he shoot a shot and I'm like, oh, man,

1830
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 2: that's good.

1831
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: So even when he laid the ball, even when when

1832
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: he'd like driving the ball or you go flip it

1833
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: up left handed.

1834
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 2: I like, so, what is this man doing? No defense?

1835
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: Looking at Lebron, looking at Anthony Davis, I got the

1836
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: night off.

1837
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 2: Nah, No, your job. Your job isn't the funnel.

1838
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: Your job is to d up because you give us

1839
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: nothing offensively. Like I said, you've got whatever it is.

1840
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: You got to be a bigger asset than a liability.

1841
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: So he has to be a bigger asset on the

1842
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 1: defensive end, because we know he's a liability on the

1843
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 1: offensive end.

1844
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 2: But if he gives us nothing on either, now, all

1845
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he's no good.

1846
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: If you wasn't playing him at the beginning of the season,

1847
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: there was a reason. Don't play his ass now because

1848
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: you feel you need to change shit up. No, you

1849
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: need to get everybody thinking the right way. You need

1850
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: to get everybody in tune with what their game is.

1851
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: You think d Angelo is coming off the bench to

1852
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: this guy and you think he's happy.

1853
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.

1854
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Cam, You putting Cam on the bench, what's

1855
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 1: that gonna do? He gonna get he give you five?

1856
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you five coming off the bench, like

1857
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm not losing nothing there?

1858
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Right?

1859
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: That is something that that that that that bleeds a

1860
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: locker room where you're looking at somebody in front of

1861
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: you that ain't him, right, so you ain't cheering for him?

1862
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Right?

1863
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: You put a guy in that can't shoot the ball.

1864
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: He's and I'm sitting here. We sitting here like a

1865
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna play team ball, Like right, you start,

1866
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 1: you start Ruie or Austin, You start Russell or Austin.

1867
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Trust me, their production is gonna get better because you

1868
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 1: that they should have a six, show confidence in them.

1869
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,879
Speaker 1: The fact that you don't there shouldn't be. You shouldn't

1870
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: be at this place right now. You shouldn't be right

1871
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: here right now. This is this is horrible unless unless

1872
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: they putting Vandy in because they need to trade him,

1873
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: show him he's healthy. That that's the thing. That's the

1874
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: thing right there, the fifteen coming up well, and showed

1875
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: him he healthy. All right, he heard that. Look at it,

1876
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: Look about that.

1877
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 2: Look at him. Tell y'all he liked.

1878
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: He liked that car we got, you know, we want

1879
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: to get we want to sell it. So I went

1880
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: driving it everybody to see his operational Then I'm gonna

1881
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: go put it right back up to eight steak to

1882
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:18,839
Speaker 1: for sales side then in tomorrow.

1883
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: And that's what this play looks like. It looks like.

1884
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: They want to They want to show that because there's

1885
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: no way as a coach you're gonna take a guy

1886
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: who's averaging one point finding insert him in the starting

1887
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:31,719
Speaker 1: lineup and he don't even get no minutes.

1888
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: All play is.

1889
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 1: I want to show him off so I can package him. Yeah,

1890
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: because you know Vando was hurt at the start of

1891
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: the season. I think he had a foot injury or

1892
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: he has some kind of injury to start the season.

1893
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, man ay they got to get

1894
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: more production.

1895
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: They need more.

1896
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: They need more than five points three points two points

1897
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: from him. Taurrian Prince is like here the mess, but okay,

1898
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: he does. I mean, look, more times than not, I

1899
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: feel come with him shooting the three ball. But like

1900
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: I said, we don't need all three of them.

1901
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 2: Man, I'm sorry. I come from I come from a time.

1902
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: Where I did shoot half our threes. Right, we shot

1903
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: fourteen threes a game. I shot seven of those. There's

1904
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 1: no way in the game where I'm playing on the

1905
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: court where he gets to take thirteen threes.

1906
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 2: Who tore your friends? Hell no, you'd have been seeing

1907
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 2: it out.

1908
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 1: I'm not getting this mofug out of here. Coach, ain't

1909
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: no way out of gat. Hey, hey, what was ZU doing?

1910
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 1: If this is not your job? If you're not sitting

1911
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 1: in there, like, what do you think about ray Allen

1912
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: didn't shoot these many threes? No, right, you're not Steph

1913
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: or Clay Kad don't even shoot these type of threes.

1914
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: So for you to shoot these type of threes, you

1915
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: better be sitting in the practice facility or the gym

1916
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 1: shooting thousands of shots. And if they get mad that

1917
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: I said they shouldn't be shooting, I would bet any

1918
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: type of money if we shoot a hundred threes right now,

1919
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 1: I will blow them out. You are you are a

1920
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: shoot guy that curly. You're talking about those three guys

1921
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: that are shooting on the Lakers right now, you get them.

1922
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even come on them. I'll shoot one hand

1923
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: against them. The Lakers, Oh, they want the one hand.

1924
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be. You're gonna have to be

1925
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: a real shooter for me to eat footbath my hands

1926
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: on the ball.

1927
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: I take three hundred shots a day.

1928
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 1: Still, I take three hundred shots, and I'll wake up

1929
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: four thirty five and I go out there and take

1930
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 1: my shots. It's just in me, so I can't look.

1931
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 1: I can't see a player, and I'm sitting here, like,

1932
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: what do you do when you in practice?

1933
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1934
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: Are you working on your shot? How are you not marksmen?

1935
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: You know you got one job. One one job. That

1936
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 1: means if practice starts at eleven, hey, you cam, you prints,

1937
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: get in the gym eight o'clock, you shoot nothing but

1938
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: threes from these spots from eight to eleven. Then we

1939
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: have ten practice. Then after take one more hour of

1940
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: shooting more threes, and then that needs you to come

1941
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: back later on tonight and shooting more threes. That should

1942
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 1: be your job. You should be a marksman. When I

1943
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: pass it, to you. I everybody should be turning around.

1944
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: We all turn around, put our hands because we know

1945
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: that's in. But what are you doing going to you?

1946
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Just coming in practicing, get fifty fifty something shots up

1947
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: and think you good?

1948
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 2: Think you golden?

1949
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: Nah? Man, Like there was a year where I took

1950
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand shots in the summer because the calculation was, shit,

1951
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 1: I'm only shooting about thirty some percent. For me to

1952
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 1: go up another percent, I gotta shoot about one hundred

1953
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: thousand shots to move up one percent. I shoot one

1954
01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 1: hundred thousand shots. That's how the calculation wins. When you

1955
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: look at the Steph Curry's and stuff like that, man

1956
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 1: they shooting.

1957
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 2: I watched Steph.

1958
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I watched Steph take four hundred shots in twenty two minutes.

1959
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 2: Moving and that was the warm up. Wow, Warner, that

1960
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 2: was just to show the.

1961
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: Crowd this is what I do. Ended that and then

1962
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: worked out for two hours. So he took about fifteen

1963
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: hundred shots that day.

1964
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Wow.

1965
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: The mayor of fact that you know, Steph has to

1966
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: be because Steph has to like, it's different for him

1967
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: because he's a perpetual motion. So there's very few chances,

1968
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 1: there are very few times that he's getting a wide

1969
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: open three. Yeah, coming off a pig, he's back hutting

1970
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and he's flaring, but he's still constantly moving. I don't

1971
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: better look here. It's something when you get tired. Now,

1972
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: fatigue will make cowards of us. All for him to

1973
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: be able to shoot that shot after you know, playing

1974
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty mint, Okay, start the game, we get

1975
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: a gill, but he moving like that throughout the entirety

1976
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 1: of the game, and in the fourth.

1977
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 2: Quarter, he's in impeccable shape. Right. That that that that

1978
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 2: shape separates him.

1979
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: Like when we talk about the greatest shooter, right, if

1980
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: we told everyone to shoot one hundred shots, right, one

1981
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: hundred threes, right, it could be close from Yes, I

1982
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 1: believe that Charay Allen a Reggie mil REI Miller.

1983
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he's we can say he's the best shooter.

1984
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 2: He's the best shooter because he was the best conditioned.

1985
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 1: So his first quarter looked like his fourth quarter while

1986
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: the rest of those shooters were tiring out.

1987
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,440
Speaker 2: Yes, he's at a ninety.

1988
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: You know, stamina level, so he was consistent throughout, So

1989
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 1: he looked like he was the better shooter because he's

1990
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,560
Speaker 1: in shape the whole thing versus I mean, you know,

1991
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: I'm thirty minutes and I'm sitting here like, oh, can

1992
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 1: we get some water? And he's that's the key to

1993
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 1: all of it. Being in shape. You be the best

1994
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: shape of your life. Like when I say life, I

1995
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: mean like you run in the three four miles when

1996
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 1: you don't play the game just to get the extra

1997
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:20,680
Speaker 1: cardio win.

1998
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 2: You have to do a lot of stuff to be great. Right.

1999
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 2: Grizzlies are four and oh with Jah.

2000
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: The Grizzlies went six to nineteen with our job because

2001
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,440
Speaker 1: he started the season serving that twenty five game suspension.

2002
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: They're now four and oh with the Western Conference Player

2003
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: of the Week on the court. After pulling off a

2004
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 1: come from behind win over the New Orleans on Tuesday,

2005
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: The Memphis Grizzlies trailed by fourteen in the fourth quarter

2006
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 1: and chipped away at the lead into the final seconds

2007
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: of the game.

2008
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 2: Joh did this celebration.

2009
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 1: I guess it's a New Orleans dance called pistols and Bazuka.

2010
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 2: They're separate.

2011
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what I'm being told now, they're saying it's

2012
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: two separate things. They say it's the New Orleans dance

2013
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: and it's not the celebration pistols and Berzuka and bazukah.

2014
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: I just say that.

2015
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: When I was showing, I was saying, you know, it's

2016
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 1: the New Orleans dance. It is not pistols in bozuka. Now, yeah,

2017
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: it's the New Orleans thens that just happened to have.

2018
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 2: Like it makes you.

2019
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 1: It made it like, I know, like he's gonna irritate

2020
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: the older group, but it.

2021
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: Kind of got a like as a.

2022
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 1: As someone who thrives on being petty, right, he can't

2023
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: help himself, right, right, I mean honest, like right now

2024
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 1: without the celebration. I call him Jahwick because that's what

2025
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 1: he reminds me of, like they killed.

2026
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 2: His dog, right, he going through and he going.

2027
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Through teams like they killed this man doll, right, And

2028
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 1: it's phenomenal.

2029
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: It's phenomenal what he's doing. It shows you how great

2030
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 2: he is. And he's so and.

2031
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: He's young, right, and I know we're gonna nobody want

2032
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 1: to hear.

2033
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 2: Her excuses of he's young, but he is a kid.

2034
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: He's in the culture where it's the dance culture, right,

2035
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 1: Like if you look at Westbrook and the dances he

2036
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,600
Speaker 1: was doing during those Okay, See he's no different. Just

2037
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: the music he listens to got those type.

2038
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 2: Of reactions to it.

2039
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: And when he's doing his dunks and he's feeling great,

2040
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: that's when he's showing in like this is not coming

2041
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: from an angry place. Like where we're looking at what

2042
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,879
Speaker 1: he's doing, it's not coming from an angry place. Everything

2043
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: he's done is coming when he's actually happy.

2044
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 2: But it's this it's a weird one.

2045
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: Because it's the culture when they're dancing and they're doing

2046
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: this coming from a happy spot, not an angry spot.

2047
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think no one's separating the two. They

2048
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 1: just see, oh pistols and he threw the bazooka at

2049
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: us right right, and and that's that's gonna be the problem, right.

2050
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: And I don't think optics, huh, you know, it's optics.

2051
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 1: You know, in this situation with him, he got suspended

2052
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: for gun it was he was you know, he got

2053
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, had it one time and he went in

2054
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: with the commission and he saw the commission. He never

2055
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: put himself in that position again. Then a couple of

2056
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 1: months later he was in that again. I think it's

2057
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: just the optics of it. Uh. But like you said,

2058
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the only dance that he know

2059
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: how to do have guns add them things on him.

2060
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.

2061
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: You know.

2062
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because as soon as you see that, I

2063
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, there you go again. He just

2064
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 2: can't you know, you dunk on you.

2065
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just glad that, like I'd rather

2066
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: see him still having his mental intact, yeah, versus seeing

2067
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: some watered down version.

2068
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Right.

2069
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: And as the organization of the Grizzlies, I know, I

2070
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: know deep down inside they happy as hell.

2071
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 2: One.

2072
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 1: You got one of the future stars of the NBA.

2073
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: You have an impact player, you have a player that

2074
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: you can sell to your audience. You got a matter

2075
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: discounted rate, right, those twenty five games was perfect for

2076
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: you to get him for forty million dollars cheaper, right,

2077
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 1: you say forty million dollars with those antics, So in

2078
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 1: your mind you don't care because you got it's like

2079
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: getting iverson. It's like you know what I mean, It's

2080
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 1: like getting the I It's like getting the bent lea

2081
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 1: for twenty percent off. Right, You're not gonna complain. You're

2082
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 1: not gonna complain. And and that's and that's what it

2083
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 1: is with joh and you know he's at the he's

2084
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: at this this point though, he's at this point where

2085
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 1: it's a god mode thinking my team was so trash

2086
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:03,839
Speaker 1: without right, you're trash without me, and y'all some losers

2087
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: without me. I come back with phone and though I

2088
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: done hit two game winners, I'm that man. If he don't,

2089
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,480
Speaker 1: if he don't settle, if he don't really look at himself,

2090
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: his ego can be bigger than it was before, of course,

2091
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 1: And and the issue is going to be now that

2092
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: he's injuring that gods zone thought process where he needs

2093
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: to protect himself more because now you're four and oh

2094
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: you go five.

2095
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 2: And O you you you you? What's the aime of

2096
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 2: the month? You you make the All Star game?

2097
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: Oh they go, we gotta come get you, said some

2098
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 1: girls this way we need him to do like you know,

2099
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: And this is where now he needs because he has

2100
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 1: this chance where they opened the door for you to

2101
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: come back in without any penalty penalty. Right, we penalize you,

2102
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: but we got you a lean slavery. You can come

2103
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: back and get your crown back. And I think he's

2104
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 1: to really think about where he's at and what he

2105
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: can accomplish. He can get more than he lost if

2106
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: he plays this right, because the team is horrible without him,

2107
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: and if he can get this team to the playoffs,

2108
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 1: he can make that All Star team. He's the dude

2109
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: the gift of Gab asked, what do you think about

2110
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: Memphis going after Andre Drumming or Busovich from Chicago or

2111
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 1: one of these big from the Pistons, bones holand from

2112
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: the Clippers.

2113
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 2: What do you think?

2114
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, because obviously there were a different team without

2115
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 1: with Big Adams.

2116
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 2: And him going down. You know, he missed the last

2117
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 2: half of the season.

2118
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: They thought he was gonna be able to come back,

2119
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 1: but he ended up having to have surgery again and

2120
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss the entire season. What do you think

2121
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: about going out and getting a Busovitch getting an Andre Drummond?

2122
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean that means you got to trade, right, If

2123
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: you're just trying to replace one guy, and you're trying

2124
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 1: to replace an enforcer, a hard.

2125
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 2: Body down there, then you might want to go after

2126
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 2: Dwight Howard.

2127
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Right that that is the only player that is cheap, right, cheap,

2128
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: willing to to come in for pennies on a dollar

2129
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: And because he's been out of the NBA and it

2130
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 1: looks like he's being left behind. He's gonna accept whatever

2131
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,600
Speaker 1: role you give him, right. You know he's going to

2132
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: be in shape, right. You know he's gonna play defense, right,

2133
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna come to practice. He's gonna be

2134
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 1: a professional. And if you need him to come in

2135
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 1: there and check some players, he can do that, right.

2136
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,640
Speaker 1: And you don't have to break up your team to

2137
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 1: go out there and get those guys. Right, you can

2138
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 1: just sign as a free agent. When Adams comes back,

2139
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 1: you can cut him if you want. Well, Adam then

2140
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: coming back this year, so you MA, you'll probably geld

2141
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 1: have him on the and he'll be just what Adams was.

2142
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: I believe if you played him, say twenty five twenty

2143
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 1: seven minutes, I believe he can give you the kind

2144
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: of rebounds that Adams give you. Oh yeah, he'll give

2145
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 1: you a double double. Yeah, because you know he'll give

2146
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 1: you a double double. He's gonna get physical. He's gonna

2147
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 1: get physical down there, and that's going to open up

2148
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff for Jahn Moran because now you

2149
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 1: have a real enforcer down there where no one is

2150
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 1: going to be trying to hit you right, and you

2151
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: know that's the one guy I see without you can

2152
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 1: without breaking up what I have, because what I have

2153
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: right now is four and oh right, because when I

2154
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 1: look at it, I think Dwhite Howard, even at his age,

2155
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 1: is still more athletic than Steven Adams.

2156
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, facts, facts, facts, So I think that that

2157
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 2: would be a good move.

2158
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: Jylen Brown like likes a tweet pushing back at Ud

2159
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 1: your Donna's Haslam comments on Bill Russell. Haslam apparently said

2160
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 1: f Russell after the NBA announced the league wide jersey

2161
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: retirement for the Legendar's Celtic star. Haslam said, tell me

2162
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: when you're gonna see Miami heat jersey hanging in Boston,

2163
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 1: said HASLM.

2164
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 2: I have to repent. I had.

2165
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: I had to repent that I love Bill. No disrespect

2166
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 1: to Bill.

2167
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 2: I love him.

2168
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 1: Will you ever see a jersey hanging in the Boston rafter?

2169
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Why you know what he got to hang in there?

2170
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 2: U D.

2171
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, I like you D, But I think the

2172
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: thing is what UD is feeling to miss miss. What

2173
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 1: he's missing is sometimes a player is so good and

2174
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 1: so great they transcend the sport because he's more than

2175
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 1: just a basketball player. It's kind of like Jackie Robinson.

2176
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson, they retired forty two league wide because he

2177
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 1: transcended the sport. Was he the best player in baseball? No,

2178
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: but what he did should never be forgotten. Bill Russell

2179
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 1: was the same way what he went through, even in

2180
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Boston as he was winning all those titles. At that summit,

2181
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: I think it was sixty seven in which the Summit

2182
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 1: in Cleveland happened, he was there. Bill Russell is a

2183
01:49:55,040 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 1: civil rights icon. Muhammad Ali is Mamahammed Ali the greatest boxing. No,

2184
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: but he transcends the sport, and sometimes when they play,

2185
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: when a person is transcendental, I mean, whatever is bestowed

2186
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: upon him.

2187
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 2: It's worthy.

2188
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Bill Russell having his number retired across the league, it's worthy.

2189
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:31,719
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson having his number required retired across baseball, it's worthy.

2190
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 1: So I don't and I get I think he was

2191
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: just looking at it, like, man, he's from Boston. But

2192
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: you have to look at the other stuff. Hey, the

2193
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: basketball is the thing. Obviously, he had to be great

2194
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 1: at basketball, but it's the other things.

2195
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 2: Is the reason why he's hanging across everywhere. Uh, when

2196
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 2: it's playoff times and we beating the enemy. We don't

2197
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 2: care about what you transcended. We're trying to get out

2198
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 2: of this series.

2199
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 1: And I got to tell my team whatever I have

2200
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: to tell them to get over this hump.

2201
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 2: Right.

2202
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 1: These two teams been battling for the last three four years,

2203
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 1: right right, and no matter what.

2204
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 2: They trying to do.

2205
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,799
Speaker 1: When I see that number at this point in time

2206
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,600
Speaker 1: up there while we're playing.

2207
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 2: This team, I don't, I don't. I don't care what

2208
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:31,759
Speaker 2: this history is. We're trying to get out of this series.

2209
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 1: We're trying to get to the championship, and that Boston jersey,

2210
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 1: that legacy is in our way.

2211
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 2: Right. How about this here?

2212
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: You do realize the Miami Heat retired Michael Jordan's number,

2213
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 1: So why he ain't say f emj because they ain't

2214
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: playing Chicago Bulls. They playing Chicago Bulls. I mean Pat

2215
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: Rowley retired that fame before number six. Nomber what I'm saying.

2216
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: He said, ain't nobody should wear twenty three? What I

2217
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 1: want twenty three. But they're now playing Chicago Bulls. In

2218
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they played you if you look it up

2219
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 1: at the RAF through the word about what in Boston

2220
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 1: was hanging across your arena, you already be.

2221
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 2: But who won? Uh huh?

2222
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: So it worked whatever the speech was, whatever the speech was,

2223
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 1: who won? They gag but don't but you gotta remember that.

2224
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: You gotta remember the Miami Heat. They lost that game

2225
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: and the arena they had to go back to the

2226
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: I guess they still call it the guard the TV banks,

2227
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 1: the TD TV banks. I think it's TD Banks. So

2228
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 1: they had to end up having to win there. But

2229
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: like like I said, I just think the thing is

2230
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: is that if you understood uh uh, it's kind of like,

2231
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 1: you know Cleveland, you understand what Jim Brown because he

2232
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: was we know he was a historical figure as far

2233
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: as running the football, but it was what he did,

2234
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 1: uh in the civil rights movement that gave him the

2235
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 1: added credence and and and and and the cachet.

2236
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think.

2237
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't think when when U D was, when he

2238
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: did hit that speech, none of that really mattered to him, Right,

2239
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: He's just trying to figure out as a guy to

2240
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: to get these guys over the hum to really try

2241
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: to put some type of fire into them. Right in

2242
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 1: times like that, like there there's times where we being

2243
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, we got like Larry Hughes, right, were playing Larry,

2244
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 1: and we got speeches that have him.

2245
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 2: He left us boom boom. We got to go in

2246
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 2: and say it like how we felt.

2247
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 1: But we we got to show each other that we're

2248
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: willing to do whatever it takes to get through this hump, right,

2249
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,759
Speaker 1: and if Larry's in our way, Larry's in our way, and.

2250
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 2: That's that's really you know what that that speech was.

2251
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:45,799
Speaker 1: We're just hearing about it now, right, Wait a minute,

2252
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 1: you can't say.

2253
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 2: That well to get them to do what he needed

2254
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 2: to do.

2255
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen, if y'all should have got over Game seven,

2256
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 1: y'all should have.

2257
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 2: Said, that's them, right. I think it's a saying.

2258
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard about this girl, but

2259
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: there's a situation where Sean McDermott, the head coach of

2260
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, he used a reference about nine to

2261
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: eleven and it ended up getting out and he had

2262
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 1: to apologize, he had to walk it back. And I

2263
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 1: think this was a situation because, like you said, doing

2264
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 1: a pregame speech or you trying to get somebody motivated.

2265
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 2: You see a lot of stuff.

2266
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, still a lot of stuff, but sometimes like as

2267
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 1: ass fans or whatever, like, you can't take everything for

2268
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 1: what it is. Like this hell is a different time now, Gil,

2269
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 1: it's a different time, Gil. The stuff, the stuff that

2270
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: we would say in the locker room and y'all sit

2271
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: in the locker room.

2272
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna fly now. Yeah, no facts, Hey, you

2273
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 2: gonna get canceled. You can get it.

2274
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: You'll get canceled. Yeah, And you understand that. And you

2275
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 1: have to be able to you have to be able

2276
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: to maneuver. But the thing is, but now everybody's offended

2277
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: about everything, and that's and I think that's the problem

2278
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: with sports, is that the fact that every group of

2279
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 1: willing to cancel is the reason why everyone's reluctant to

2280
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 1: have certain type of groups inside the organization, right, because

2281
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 1: if something happens right, that's natural how we talk and

2282
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: how we prep each other, and you're canceling me, then

2283
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: it's easier for me not to accept that person.

2284
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 2: Here.

2285
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: We won't we won't say we're discriminating, but we are right.

2286
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: But that is easier versus you canceling me for saying

2287
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: something inappropriate. Uh Zion got a chest tattoo. I want

2288
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: to know I thought that was you busting out there,

2289
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 1: just gorilla. Man, Man, you know, Goodwill, I got no

2290
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: stomach like that. I don't know where you got that from.

2291
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 2: It's just.

2292
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: I just want to know what thay, Gil, who go

2293
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 1: tell him? If is not centered?

2294
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 2: I listen, listen. Maybe it's supposed to be a little

2295
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 2: over the heart. Maybe that was the way it was

2296
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 2: a zion, a little over the heart.

2297
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 1: Uh, but I want a zion, man, come on, man, right, like,

2298
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 1: like I get the concept right, you want to put uh.

2299
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 2: What was that a real name? Harambi?

2300
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Harambio on your chest, man. But the

2301
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:24,839
Speaker 1: belly is what stopped me. Man, I'm like, it reminded

2302
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: me of what Steven They said. Man, he was at

2303
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 1: the Freto line and he's belly getting the bouncing. As

2304
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 1: soon as I seen him with his shirt off, that's

2305
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 1: all I looked at, Like Stephen as right, that was.

2306
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Mad. Look, I mean you got the tattoos, Gil, whole body.

2307
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 1: I got corporate tax. I coined it. I called it

2308
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: corporate tax. That's where I like tattoos. But to get

2309
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: my corporate sponsors, not on my nazia, none of my

2310
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 1: sleeves days. Yeah, yeah, so so, so I have tats

2311
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: all in where where the jersey covers everything right right,

2312
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: So I called it corporate task where I.

2313
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 2: Like the tattoos, couldn't see them. They was just not

2314
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 2: going to score corporate. I'm not going to score.

2315
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 1: Uh scare corporations off packs from having me a part

2316
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: of their brands.

2317
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 2: Uh flip. Saint Felix asked, no question.

2318
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: Got I just wanted to say, Shannon and Gil, you

2319
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: guys are killing the game and watching y'all dominate this

2320
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 1: media is beyond inspiring.

2321
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. We appreciate the support.

2322
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: Doctor Shark Monk said, do NBA NFL players a boy

2323
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 1: getting intimate having sex before big game like boxers do

2324
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: for weeks or half French legs? Hell no, I don't

2325
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: know if I give them. Hell no, hey, the board nothing.

2326
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean we're in the hotel night before a game.

2327
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: So it makes it a little bit more difficult because

2328
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 1: we have security at the elevators, we have security at

2329
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: the end of the hall, so ain't nobody I mean

2330
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 1: once we have and we have bad check. So once

2331
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: we have bad check, I mean they locked it down.

2332
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 1: But hell no, weeks man, you I ain't no boxes.

2333
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand they go up to Big Bear

2334
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 1: or they go to you know these places, and they

2335
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: in training camp.

2336
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 2: For six eight weeks and then hell not hell to

2337
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 2: the now.

2338
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to shake the covers Friday night because

2339
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 1: I know I'm about to be locked down on Saturday. No,

2340
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 1: but look, I can only speak to me, guy Shark

2341
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: monk that when you ask, I don't know whatever NBA players.

2342
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what any.

2343
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 1: NFL players do. Maybe some do, maybe some don't, But no,

2344
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm not going those six weeks or once

2345
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 1: the season start going without sex.

2346
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna happen.

2347
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean Friday, I mean twenty four hours, eight hours,

2348
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: that's all I got for you. Do we leave communication

2349
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 1: with Gil? I think we lost Gil lost Gil lost

2350
01:58:56,040 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 1: the signal headquarters. You got us many'll y'all stop. That

2351
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 1: man ain'tbody to get no tattoo or no cheeseburger. He

2352
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 1: ain't getting no neck bone on his neck. Come on, now, y'all,

2353
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 1: y'all do it too much chat, y'all wrong for this.

2354
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 1: The man got a tattoo, Okay, he wanted the tattoo

2355
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 1: on his body. It's a hard and I think it

2356
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 1: got like as a silver back in the in the

2357
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 1: center of the cross. I'm a reader. If Gil joined

2358
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 1: us back, we're gonna we'll go back and revisit that question.

2359
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 1: WD asked Thunk and Gill what y'all think about Rashid

2360
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 1: Wallace isn't an NBA two K because they only wanted

2361
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 1: to pay best ten thousand to be in the game.

2362
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 1: He won one hundred and twenty five thousand, but they

2363
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 1: refused to pay it. Two K makes hundreds of million

2364
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 1: a year. I get it because we're in the same situation,

2365
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 1: and but I think it's nice that I'm a part

2366
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: of the game, and I think you look, I think

2367
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:00,839
Speaker 1: sheet I ain't counting that man's pocket. But he feels

2368
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: that the adequate and the proper compensation would be one

2369
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five K.

2370
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell him he's right or wrong.

2371
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 1: Me I wanted to be a part of it, and

2372
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: so you know, Hey, it's not much, but I'm not

2373
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:14,120
Speaker 1: hurt for money.

2374
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 2: I'm doing my own thing.

2375
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he's hurt for money either, but that's

2376
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 1: he wants to stand on back. Hey guy, you making

2377
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 1: hundreds of million dollars what's one hundred and twenty five K.

2378
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 1: But then when you start paying everybody one hundred and

2379
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 1: twenty five k, I don't think the game is going

2380
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 1: to last too long.

2381
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 2: So for me, I understand him standing on it.

2382
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 1: I also understand two K said, Nah, we're good, bro,

2383
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 1: We're just we'll have the Pistons or the Trailblazers and

2384
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: you won't be a part of it.

2385
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 2: Deil you back yet?

2386
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, ah bad?

2387
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 2: You a hack the system, doctor shark monk.

2388
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: He asked NBA NFL players a boy getting intimate having

2389
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: sex before big game like boxers do for weeks to

2390
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 1: have fresh leg, and does that work?

2391
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,879
Speaker 2: I was saying, Gil, Nah, Bro, I ain't no boxer.

2392
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake the cover Friday because I'm gonna be

2393
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 1: locked down Saturday, so no, and my leg should be

2394
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 1: recovered by the time I hit the field on Sunday.

2395
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not going the week. I'm not going.

2396
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going a month. I'm not doing any of that. Oh, Shay,

2397
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 1: go shake the covers for dark on Friday.

2398
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 2: Like it's ritual.

2399
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 1: So I had a teammate who who got got some

2400
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 1: falatio before the game. Hit five threes where you gotta

2401
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: call up back the next game. So you know, every game,

2402
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 1: that's what he had to do. Okay, every game he

2403
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:46,320
Speaker 1: go to the parking lot ready for the chip off,

2404
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 1: and go to the parking lot, get a.

2405
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 2: Little thing done, come on to the game.

2406
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah right, hey, and hey, superstitition is a powerful thing, man,

2407
02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 1: most powerful thing.

2408
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 2: I didn't listen. I didn't because I heard the story.

2409
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson back in the day said he didn't have

2410
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:12,520
Speaker 1: sex the night before the game, right, And that's all

2411
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 1: I grew up knowing the night before the game, don't

2412
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:16,760
Speaker 1: have sex. Mass Johnson said, don't have sex the night

2413
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 1: before the game, right, So that's what I always did.

2414
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 1: So there was a certain time nine ten o'clock that

2415
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 1: I stopped. So I didn't do it on game day

2416
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 1: just because that's what I thought.

2417
02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 2: But I know it wouldn't affect me. It was just

2418
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 2: it was just that's what you know, So you ain't

2419
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 2: doing nothing the night before we either like r you know,

2420
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 2: to ten eleven twelve.

2421
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, not on game Oh but see see we had

2422
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,120
Speaker 1: security on the floor, so we couldn't.

2423
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I'm sure some guys were Wait

2424
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 2: it mean security what was security for.

2425
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 1: No women on the no women on the floor. I mean,

2426
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:50,520
Speaker 1: we couldn't have anybody on the floor. We had room chack.

2427
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 1: We had bad chack. Wait as a growl, as a

2428
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 1: grown man, as a grown man. Yea wait wait wait

2429
02:02:58,240 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 1: wait wait.

2430
02:02:58,640 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 2: Y'all had curfew.

2431
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:05,400
Speaker 1: Yes, oh no, oh no, no, yeah for sure, no, no,

2432
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:08,640
Speaker 1: we know you damn you need to be an.

2433
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 2: NBA playing for about one good year.

2434
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: That's why I said I had to shake the coup

2435
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 1: before dark on Friday, because I know I would gonna

2436
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 1: be locked down either on the road or in the

2437
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 1: hotel cup even at home. We stayed in the hotel

2438
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: night before the game. What, Yes, you stayed the hotel

2439
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 1: night before a game.

2440
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 2: We're partying that. Oh no, we party.

2441
02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: Most of us are coming in at six seven in

2442
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 1: the morning from the club. Yeah, but see y'all games

2443
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: that night, so you could do that. See we played

2444
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 1: at one two o'clock in the afternoon.

2445
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're just going to sleep all.

2446
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 1: Day and were just going to sleep again because Mike

2447
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 1: is telling us Friday and Brian uh was always telling

2448
02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 1: us after the Priday, we've done practice around one o'clock

2449
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 1: on Friday, all right, go home, get off your feed

2450
02:03:56,240 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 1: if you got you know, hey, and when you know

2451
02:03:58,120 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 1: I did, I got off my feet on I mean, Gill,

2452
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: I was off my feet. That that's great. He with

2453
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:09,200
Speaker 1: our others, but I was off bo feet. Y'all y'all

2454
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: didn't even get to have fun. We haven't listen.

2455
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 2: Listen if I.

2456
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:20,840
Speaker 1: You can't hang in the basketball player, we might have

2457
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:21,200
Speaker 1: been good.

2458
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 2: I'd have been good. You know. We run them through

2459
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 2: the hotel. You got the same girl going through four

2460
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 2: five rules? What? Oh yeah, I gotta why she coming

2461
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 2: on down hey? And she got a friend.

2462
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know that. You know what the

2463
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:38,919
Speaker 1: traveling pats, Oh yeah, I can't.

2464
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 2: Handle all these girls come on down here. You ain't

2465
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 2: got three folk coming to that.

2466
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 1: That happened in the NFL security big But see now, Gil,

2467
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,640
Speaker 1: Gil with I wouldn't want no parts of that now

2468
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 1: with the way it's set up now, or you're gonna

2469
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 1: get it's a simple limit, sha Let me show you

2470
02:04:55,280 --> 02:05:01,040
Speaker 1: a simple rule, Gill. No means no, maybe means no,

2471
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 1: and sometimes yes means.

2472
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:07,879
Speaker 2: No tomorrow all that no, nope, nope, leaving along, Gil.

2473
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: Cash means yes right, cash means as soon as they

2474
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 1: ain't take that cat, they mean, yeah, right, so we pay.

2475
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 2: We're paying.

2476
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 1: What you say, Oh yeah, go ahead that Yeah, we

2477
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 1: got receipts. Oh, let me cash app you this hug

2478
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 1: cash app. Sin, I ain't got no apps or I

2479
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:29,880
Speaker 1: ain't got no cash apps on my phone.

2480
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 2: But why you got no uber. I ain't got no

2481
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing. Have you noticed though, the NBA

2482
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 2: players ain't getting called out for that? Yeah?

2483
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, y'all y'all, But see, y'all got a different life.

2484
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 1: See y'all see basketball like basketball and baseball player, y'all.

2485
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:48,400
Speaker 1: That drove the price up, y'all, y'all inflation, So y'all

2486
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:50,680
Speaker 1: done drove the price up to hill. I mean he

2487
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:53,040
Speaker 1: used to be you know, finger near your hair done.

2488
02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 1: You know you get your nails done, and you know

2489
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:57,120
Speaker 1: you're playing a little bill here or there.

2490
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 2: Mm hmm mm hm. Oh yeah, we messed the Oh yeah,

2491
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 2: y y'all.

2492
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, god man, yeah, we flying were flying private

2493
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,560
Speaker 1: private jet. We're gonna give you thousands just to get you.

2494
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 1: See that's what I'm saying. Oh see I need them.

2495
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 1: I needed a pre pandemic prices, see y'all, see see

2496
02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: pandemic that happened and everything was scarce needed to go

2497
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 1: back to pre pandemic. Yes, I can't, I can yet,

2498
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 1: your your man. I hate the basketball players. I told

2499
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:31,640
Speaker 1: you all, the basketball player, the baseball player, that the belevel.

2500
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 2: Like we we we we buying the burking bag.

2501
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Were gonna put the thirty thousand, forty thousand in there

2502
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:39,280
Speaker 1: just to talk to you. We we're gonna try to

2503
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,160
Speaker 1: spoil you, just to get it, just for the ways

2504
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 1: over old on y'all see that a just NFL players. See,

2505
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 1: that's why we ain't got no chance. That's why we

2506
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:52,960
Speaker 1: can't compete with them. Bill already tell y'all don't bring

2507
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 1: your track shoes. Y'all want to keep keep up with

2508
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 1: the NBA player, bring your check book and that and that.

2509
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 1: When people hear me talk and I say, y'all don't understand.

2510
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: I got a different playbook, my platebook. I get to

2511
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 1: say whatever I walk because what they're gonna do, I

2512
02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 1: can just get a new one, right how I like

2513
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 1: girls like yeah, don't talk to me like that. I

2514
02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 1: get you, and then the people above me get you too.

2515
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 2: You know Dave that say Hey, what time you gonna

2516
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 2: be over here?

2517
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:25,080
Speaker 1: You said nine. I'm holding right now. I'm gonna call

2518
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 1: somebody else. I see you later. I get to do that. Oh,

2519
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: I'll I'll be over right now. Well, whoever, whoever get

2520
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 1: here first, that's who I'm letting me in. So what

2521
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:41,800
Speaker 1: so what if they show at the same time. Hey, hey,

2522
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 1: y'all like each other. Hey, hey, look the NBA player.

2523
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 1: Look the NBA player. Listen, the NBA player gonna try it.

2524
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 1: We say whatever because we can.

2525
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm scared. And that's the problem. Like we really like,

2526
02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 2: we we root, we rude, like.

2527
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 1: We we we compromise because we we we we can

2528
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:10,600
Speaker 1: go into d M and then get the talking we

2529
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 1: talk records. All right, Well, then I just holler at

2530
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 1: your friend or ill holler at this person. Y'all are

2531
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 1: all for of y'all to come back. We we just

2532
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 1: were just sitting there just playing mismatch. And that's that's

2533
02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem. But and guess what, you ain't

2534
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna catch us in public with them. So that means, listen,

2535
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 1: we were treating girls who are high sed diitty, yeah,

2536
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:40,200
Speaker 1: to turn them into three o fo's.

2537
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:43,160
Speaker 2: That's for let's holds backwards.

2538
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 1: You know your your your superstar women, them them stars.

2539
02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2540
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they come sneaky in the hotel two in

2541
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:53,560
Speaker 1: the morning and go.

2542
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:54,320
Speaker 2: And leave out.

2543
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 1: So you know, I was wondering, I say, man, why

2544
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: everybody got a g wagon? Why they gotta working bag?

2545
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:02,880
Speaker 1: And they got on aps on y'all ain't got no

2546
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 1: job like Oh now it makes sens gil. I was

2547
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 1: wondering every time I go on, I g and I'm looking.

2548
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 1: She got a g wagon, she got a burking bag,

2549
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:14,560
Speaker 1: she got.

2550
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 2: An ap she look. She dated the date the NBA

2551
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:24,320
Speaker 2: player for the luxury. They date the NFL player for

2552
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 2: the love.

2553
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna show them the attention that they need. Oh lord, listen,

2554
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:33,360
Speaker 1: I can. I can fly you out from Miami. We

2555
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 1: go to Miami Club. You you are in town with

2556
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 1: me and I took somebody else home.

2557
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna get your new hotel room. She better. Wow,

2558
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 2: I ain't got that guy. I ain't never had that guy.

2559
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:48,560
Speaker 1: I ain't never been that ballsy well, I ain't never

2560
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: First of all, I ain't never flew out to him.

2561
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 1: I ain't never went to a party like that like

2562
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 1: y'all be doing it. I guess I'm about to go

2563
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 1: out there and let my hair down. Yes over they

2564
02:09:56,920 --> 02:10:00,200
Speaker 1: allay put. Now, don't let me try to look to

2565
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 1: the next celebrity you see, go to the next Celebritcy.

2566
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I want you for tonight. I got about

2567
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:09,200
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. Hey, what you got for me? You'll

2568
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:11,000
Speaker 2: be surprised. Here's the thing.

2569
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 1: I get it, Gil, Look at my age. I'm fifty five.

2570
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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a celebrity. They're playing in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and I get that at my age because

2572
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:25,000
Speaker 1: of who I am. The dating pool is a lot open,

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02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot more open than say somebody fifty five that's

2574
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:29,440
Speaker 1: not in my position.

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02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,920
Speaker 2: I can get it, but I ain't no food now, Gil.

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02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 1: It ain't all the way open like if I now,

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02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 1: if I was twenty five or thirty five, I gotta

2578
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:45,000
Speaker 1: play books. You know you're right, you're right, So you

2579
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 1: know I'm how to stay up my lane, Gill, like

2580
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 1: you don't ade. Hey, you know that new Florid law

2581
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 1: that just about to pass, a law you got to

2582
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 1: be at leave driving at least sixty five in the

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02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 1: far left lane.

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02:10:57,560 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 2: I ain't all the way to the right.

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02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm in the lane they stood the part right lane,

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02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 1: and I'm doing like fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good question up.

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02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 1: Right, So since you're fifty five, is the problem that

2589
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 1: fifty five year old women don't look good?

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02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:14,600
Speaker 2: This is that the fifty five year old women don't

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02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 2: look like kept up like you do? Is that? Is

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02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 2: that a problem?

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02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:27,160
Speaker 1: The God, the God's honest truth. Women my age looking

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02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:30,040
Speaker 1: for guys younger.

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02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 2: And me.

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02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:38,400
Speaker 1: I ain't no, said day, me too. So we both

2597
02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:40,800
Speaker 1: looking for different we looking over each other, looking for

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Speaker 1: something else.

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02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 2: Here what it is? It is?

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02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: What it is, man, I'm at I'm at photios.

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02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:48,800
Speaker 2: So I'm good.

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Speaker 1: You're the sweek five, they say, like when you date,

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02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 1: when you're looking for a girlfriend or wife half your

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02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 1: age plus plus seven, that's supposed to be your cutoff. Okay,

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02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 1: after your age plus seven, So you're theoretically so from

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02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven. I guess all the way to forty is

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02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:17,240
Speaker 1: in your wheelhouse. Okay, I ain't tell nobody my age.

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02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:25,600
Speaker 1: I ain't really fifty five thirty seven now, I geel like,

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Speaker 1: I just I just love. I just can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just I just say.

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02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:33,120
Speaker 1: I ain't never had that kind of gumption to be

2612
02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:36,280
Speaker 1: able to you know, I mean, I will say, you're

2613
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:37,040
Speaker 1: not in I could.

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02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 2: I could.

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02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:40,880
Speaker 1: I could sense early on if somebody wasn't feeling me.

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02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:42,200
Speaker 2: And that's cool.

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02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:44,840
Speaker 1: I ain't never called nobody out their name because they

2618
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:46,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to holler at me, or they found my

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02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 1: boy more attractive, or he had somebody had more money.

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02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm cool. I'm good with it. It ain't the end

2621
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:54,760
Speaker 2: of the world. I think my notes.

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02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 1: Your personality lets me get away with a lot more

2623
02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:03,200
Speaker 1: because they already expected, right, they expect they expected.

2624
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:04,760
Speaker 2: Like if I go out there.

2625
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Right now and say, yeah, anybody charging for for you know, vagina,

2626
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 1: I'll have a whole d M full of models and celebrities.

2627
02:13:14,840 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 1: Are were you playing when you said that?

2628
02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:17,920
Speaker 2: Hey, big head?

2629
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:26,360
Speaker 1: Like, sometimes I just say this ship just to say it, right,

2630
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:29,640
Speaker 1: they take it. I don't even leave my goddamn house.

2631
02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 1: I just see it just to say it.

2632
02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 2: Just for kicks and giggles.

2633
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 1: Since everybody wants to be a good dude, so I

2634
02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 1: just want to be a bad dude just to see

2635
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 1: just I hate. Someone has to someone has to talk

2636
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:46,160
Speaker 1: for the slim balls bro and Tony Robinson saying oh

2637
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:47,880
Speaker 1: you got to stop left, Steve, and they get away

2638
02:13:47,880 --> 02:13:48,040
Speaker 1: with that.

2639
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 2: Jordan Dad passed an excuse.

2640
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:53,720
Speaker 1: Many people lose loved ones but just didn't quit their job.

2641
02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:59,040
Speaker 1: Brian better, Look, I mean we gil, I know you've

2642
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:04,280
Speaker 1: heard everything that was said that there were other extreenuating circumstances.

2643
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:07,920
Speaker 1: Was the reason that Jordan left the NBA. I don't know.

2644
02:14:08,360 --> 02:14:10,080
Speaker 1: He said it was a lot of pressure. I know

2645
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:12,720
Speaker 1: the man had a very very close relationship with his dad.

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02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:16,440
Speaker 1: Uh and that's a lot. That's a lot given the

2647
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:20,960
Speaker 1: tragedy and the tragic manner in which it happened happened,

2648
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 1: and the gravity of what happened.

2649
02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:24,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

2650
02:14:24,760 --> 02:14:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, they said it was other things where that

2651
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:28,120
Speaker 1: led he was suspended.

2652
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:29,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2653
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:31,880
Speaker 1: And so all I know is that the man stepped

2654
02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 1: away for a year and a half and came back

2655
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:36,560
Speaker 1: and he wasn't quite the same. We're in the forty five,

2656
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:39,320
Speaker 1: but when he showed back up in ninety six with

2657
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:40,040
Speaker 1: that two.

2658
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:45,920
Speaker 2: Three that two three three, Yeah, I mean it was.

2659
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:51,000
Speaker 1: Like we've heard the stories, right, We've heard the whispers here.

2660
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:56,640
Speaker 1: We've I've talked to refs, you know, and you know

2661
02:14:56,680 --> 02:14:59,400
Speaker 1: there's some things that went on, but you know.

2662
02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:02,680
Speaker 2: Let let.

2663
02:15:03,480 --> 02:15:06,800
Speaker 1: It was a mutual step away, right, It was a

2664
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:10,960
Speaker 1: mutual step away, you know right now, you know, as

2665
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:13,760
Speaker 1: they're facing the league. You know, we don't know if

2666
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 1: we can control all this drama. So you step away,

2667
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:19,200
Speaker 1: going on, let the world miss you, and then you

2668
02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:21,480
Speaker 1: come back and then we can just talk about basketball,

2669
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:24,240
Speaker 1: right you know, Sometimes you know, things like that have

2670
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:27,120
Speaker 1: to happen, especially when you know who he was at

2671
02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, yeah, I don't you know the things

2672
02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:32,000
Speaker 1: we we heard.

2673
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:34,440
Speaker 2: You don't want that that.

2674
02:15:34,160 --> 02:15:37,600
Speaker 1: That that type of you know, cloud over the NBA,

2675
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:39,520
Speaker 1: especially for who he was.

2676
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:42,440
Speaker 2: Anybody else has, but not not him. Not him.

2677
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:46,440
Speaker 1: Nicki went underscore ATO four said, hey, there, Gil, being

2678
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:50,400
Speaker 1: from Richmond, Virginia, I'm I'm a Wizards fan because of you,

2679
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 1: and they're only what They're the only team in DC

2680
02:15:54,080 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 1: I support. So Nicki went underscore eight O four. She's

2681
02:15:58,080 --> 02:15:59,440
Speaker 1: a big fan of your Gil.

2682
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 2: The girl. There's only two teams in DC.

2683
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:06,200
Speaker 1: You got the Wizards and you got Gold Georgetown, and

2684
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:07,200
Speaker 1: the Wizard is about.

2685
02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:08,000
Speaker 2: To be going to Virginia.

2686
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 1: So I hope you got your bust fed or your

2687
02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:13,320
Speaker 1: gas money because that's where you're going where She and Richmond,

2688
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:18,560
Speaker 1: So Richmond, Oh, we loved Richmond like we used to

2689
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:19,720
Speaker 1: have training camp in Richmond.

2690
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was a good. That was a good.

2691
02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:22,720
Speaker 2: That was a good.

2692
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:25,880
Speaker 1: Like there, it was perfect for a training camp, like

2693
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:27,560
Speaker 1: we went down there in George Mason all the time

2694
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:31,480
Speaker 1: the training Raiders Mom twenty four eighty nine. Please shout

2695
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:34,199
Speaker 1: out our son, Raider. He's seventeen months old, was born

2696
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:37,119
Speaker 1: with five holes in his art, fourteen months in the hospital,

2697
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:40,600
Speaker 1: but he's finally home. God is good. Raider's Mom, twenty

2698
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:46,040
Speaker 1: four eighty nine. Congratulations all the best Raider. Hopefully after

2699
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:48,760
Speaker 1: fourteen months in the hospital, he's seventeen months old.

2700
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:50,120
Speaker 2: Finally home.

2701
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:55,520
Speaker 1: Congratulations, and hopefully he has a long, healthy, prosperous life.

2702
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:58,360
Speaker 1: God is good. Thank you, Raider's mom twenty four eighty

2703
02:16:58,400 --> 02:17:02,560
Speaker 1: nine for sharing that. Jay his name is Raider, His

2704
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:04,240
Speaker 1: name is Raiders.

2705
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, no, we know a team. What football fan he's

2706
02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:07,680
Speaker 2: gonna be a fan of?

2707
02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:12,480
Speaker 1: Nothing can't be Jay asked, do you think Piston's losing

2708
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:15,880
Speaker 1: streak should be a reminder of to other rebuilding teams

2709
02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:17,600
Speaker 1: the risk of getting it wrong?

2710
02:17:20,720 --> 02:17:28,120
Speaker 2: No, the losing streak is is more of they found

2711
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:31,440
Speaker 2: they found out how to be bad.

2712
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta practice this girl, ain't no way you

2713
02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 1: can practice being good and be this bad.

2714
02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:39,120
Speaker 2: So you gotta practice being bad. You gotta the habits

2715
02:17:39,640 --> 02:17:42,560
Speaker 2: of what you do every day. It's to look like

2716
02:17:42,600 --> 02:17:43,400
Speaker 2: when you're talking.

2717
02:17:43,160 --> 02:17:46,600
Speaker 1: About what makes a great team great is the little

2718
02:17:46,640 --> 02:17:51,000
Speaker 1: things they do when their shots not falling, when you

2719
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:53,120
Speaker 1: know there's they're they're making those extra plays.

2720
02:17:53,160 --> 02:17:55,120
Speaker 2: I took a charge here, dove out of the bounds,

2721
02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 2: hustled back.

2722
02:17:55,879 --> 02:17:59,279
Speaker 1: On defense line. Right, you make those little extra plays.

2723
02:17:59,680 --> 02:18:03,200
Speaker 1: That's what the winning teams do. Now the opposite bad

2724
02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:08,480
Speaker 1: teams they make all the wrong plays at the right

2725
02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:12,160
Speaker 1: time for their opponent taking a bad shot, turning the

2726
02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:14,880
Speaker 1: ball over. Right, You know you had five turnovers for

2727
02:18:14,959 --> 02:18:17,720
Speaker 1: the game. Four of them was in the last minute, right.

2728
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just find ways to lose.

2729
02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:24,000
Speaker 1: And when you're a bad team, it's more mental than

2730
02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:26,320
Speaker 1: it is the game itself.

2731
02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:28,199
Speaker 2: Right, is they're going to run, they hit.

2732
02:18:28,120 --> 02:18:33,280
Speaker 1: Two threes, You look at each other, Oh we lost again.

2733
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:36,119
Speaker 2: Now this is the first everybody hit you down, right,

2734
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:37,920
Speaker 2: And that's what it is like.

2735
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 1: There has to be a moment in time where if

2736
02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 1: you think positive, it will happen. You go in and say, hey,

2737
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:47,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game, no matter how many shots

2738
02:18:47,680 --> 02:18:47,960
Speaker 1: they make.

2739
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:49,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna cheer, We're gonna stand, We're gonna root.

2740
02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:52,440
Speaker 1: I need the bench, I need you guys stand up

2741
02:18:52,480 --> 02:18:54,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. We're gonna cheer. We're gonna

2742
02:18:54,520 --> 02:18:57,000
Speaker 1: do it. We need to be our own battery pack.

2743
02:18:57,440 --> 02:18:59,440
Speaker 1: And the day they do that is the day they

2744
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:03,640
Speaker 1: get out of this. But right now they'll lunch me. Wow,

2745
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:09,360
Speaker 1: that's really tough. Please make sure you hit that light button.

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Speaker 1: us for another episode. I'm your favorite sports on Shannon Sharp,

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Speaker 1: He's your favorite Number zero, the greatest Arizona Wildcat player

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Speaker 1: in Wildcat history, mister Habbachi himself, gilbe the arenas Gil.

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