1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Well, welcome everybody to Monday. This is is the Texans All 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Access from the Hyunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: John Harris, a k A. Oscar Madison. No, actually that's 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: ye Felix and that voice you here is Oscar Madison. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: And if you get that dated reference, well then you'll 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: understand this. Mark Vandeman Voice of the Texans with me, Mark, 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: hope you had a good weekend. How are you doing? 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Doing great? Johnny? And Uh, it is a dated reference. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: But the Odd Couple is almost like scripture. It's Shakespeare, 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: It's it's American culture. You know. It was a movie 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: with Jack No, Jack Lugman's on the TV show with 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Tony Randalls. The movie was Jack Lemon and Walter Matthau 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: and it was a play on Broadway forever and it's 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: been redone. What didn't matt LeBlanc do? Uh? It was Perry, Oh, 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Matthew Perry from Friends, because that's still on the air. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: I don't know what that made it. He played the 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: messy guy. Come on, you can't do that. If you 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: cast Matthew Perry the Odd Couple, he's got to play 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the neat guy. What are you doing here? Yeah. I 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: mean that's the thing if you just to peep behind 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: the curtain. As I was getting the show ready, we 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: have our in studio computer here, and I'm getting it 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: ready and I do it a particular way that I like, 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, my back to work and 25 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: you start laughing at me. You start laughing because you're 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: still the screen with the little audio window and everything, 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: and I am totally fine with that. And on the screen, 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I have all my audio files hanging out, and I'm thinking, 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: I am so Oscar Madison on this thing. John poor 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: Johnny has to put up with my messiness in digital land. Well, 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: I mean you have to put up my OCD too, 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: so it kind of kind of goes both ways. But 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: I thought about this. We this training camp at the 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Green Brier. That'll be training camp number five. Wow, let 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: me training camp number five. All these shows we've done, 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: I know a lot, a lot along the way. I 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: can't wait to do those training camp shows. When they're 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: on the field and we're doing the show and it's 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: so good. We could talk about what's going on, and 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, just little things remind you of something and 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: it brings up another topic and you know, they were 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: on the field to day with OTA's Obviously we'll be 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: out there tomorrow to watch all of it. You'll see 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: how the coverage on Houston Texans dot com and all 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: the platforms. It's an exciting type of year. I think 46 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: OTAs are kind of the start of training camp, you know, 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: because once they get the eleven on eleven really going, 48 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: that's when, Yeah, they're really putting stuff in. And this 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I've said this many times. This kind of replaces the 50 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: old school six weeks of camp eas to have. Now 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: it's just two before that first preseason game. It's six 52 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: weeks until the first regular season game. But he used 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: to be I guess twelve. So now you had these 54 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: OTAs where they're putting a lot of the stuff in 55 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: so they can hit the ground running when training camp begins. Yeah, 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: and I've always liked these these OTA sessions. There there's 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: something I don't know. Maybe it's just because we haven't 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: seen the full group together, especially a group that's had 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: so much change. And I wrote about this not this 60 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: past Friday, Friday before or No, I actually wrote about 61 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: last Friday, how much change there's been all of the 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: free agents, the waiver claims guys like Sammy coach Josh Keys, 63 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: guys have been claimed on waivers that you finally get 64 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: a chance to see all together. We saw the rookies 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: for a brief period, and then the rookies are part 66 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: of this too, So you see Justin Reid out there 67 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: with Tyra, Matthew and trust and decou and all this, 68 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: all the vets in the secondary. So you start to 69 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: see all that and you start putting the pieces together 70 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: and your mind starts to envision, Okay, what is this 71 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: going to look like? And you quit looking on paper 72 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: and you start seeing it and you're like, oh, okay, 73 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: I see how this I could I see how this 74 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: can be or oh man, they're gonna need some help here, 75 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: or and look, with a lot of this with offensive 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Line in particular, you don't see him in pads and 77 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: they don't hate there's no contact, So there's that that 78 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: part of it. And of course offensive linement hate OTAs 79 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: they hate it because you got all the evenive lignement 80 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: jumping up bad and passes, and they have no recourse. 81 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: There's nothing they can do. Bunch anybody in the stomach 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: do anything. It's always the most frustrating. So we will 83 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: have OTA's well full coverage for you tomorrow after the 84 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: one that we are going to cover. Mark. I figured 85 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: you wrote about the offense a week so I figured, 86 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: taking the news of last week, which was the the 87 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: announcement that or the repeal of the sports wagering laws 88 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: in the States, and the fact that you were about 89 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: the offense, I figured we could do a little over 90 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: under here, Oh, over under, I like, yeah, yeah, you 91 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: like over under, You like over under all? Right, number one, 92 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: you're ready. I just stay strictly offense. Right, strictly offense. 93 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I wrote about the defense, you were about the offense. 94 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: You did that for the yearbook, So strictly offense. The 95 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: number is thirty one and a half points the touchdowns 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson will throw four in twenty eighteen. I 97 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: always bring this one up because the record, as you mentioned, 98 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: passing touchdowns in the year is Matt Shop with twenty nine. 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm putting the number at thirty one and a half. 100 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: So he can still get over twenty nine, but get 101 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: under the number thirty one and a half passing touchdown. 102 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, John, He's going way over thirty one. If 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: he plays, he's going way over because he had nineteen 104 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: in seven games, right, and you think about this six 105 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: and a half games and the Cincinnati game, they weren't 106 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: exactly slinging it. He ran for that long touchdown. He 107 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: is gonna throw a ton. It's gonna be thirty five. 108 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I would I think the better number to set, Like 109 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: if the boys in the Desert were really setting a number, 110 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: I would say thirty five, because you know, you can't 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: think you're gonna have nineteen in seven games and that 112 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: pace is going to keep up. But what blows my 113 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: mind here is that Hopkins caught seven from him and 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: Fuller caught seven in four games. Right. Fuller had four 115 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: games with Watson and it was seven. It was ridiculous. 116 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: He had two games with two each. Now, that's not 117 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna happen every week. I get that, but it's gonna 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: happen a lot where you get these guys going loose, 119 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: and then what about the tight ends. I don't even know. 120 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you have Ryan Grivet and Steven Anderson coming back, 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: but I don't know how Aikin's figures in. Does Thomas 122 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: catch a few? And then you look at the backs, 123 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: what's Foreman gonna be like in the year two. If 124 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's gonna factorate it. That makes you look 125 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: at some of the passing plays made to him. Boy, 126 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a lot of options. It's gonna you're 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: going over Okay, I hope it's over thirty one and 128 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: a half. I I set that number there just a 129 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: little regression back to me. I remember last year going 130 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: into Week nine, I got I got a I got 131 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: something from NFL media and it was a breakdown of 132 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: every game and they had all these different like stats 133 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: and little nuances and little nuggets, and it was the 134 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Colts Texans, and that got in every single bullet point 135 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: was about Andrew Luck or Deshaun Watson. And the very 136 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: last line, the very last line said Sean Watson's on 137 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: pace for forty three touchdowns in twenty eighteen. And I 138 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: did a double taken with that. Doesn't say that that's 139 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: a thirty fty three. Now that you know what would 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: have happened the rest of the year, Who knows what 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: you have gotten when you think about some of the 142 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: past defenses that they would have faced, what would have happened, 143 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: What you've gotten over the twenty nine I think for sure, 144 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: But how much further does you go? And is there 145 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of regression to mean? So you say over, 146 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I would say over as well. So if you say 147 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: over the number of receivers to catch ten plus touchdowns 148 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, the number is one and a half, 149 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: are you going over or under? Yeah, so we're gonna 150 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: say that two guys are gonna catch ten or more, 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: which is a lot considering Let's go back to the 152 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Andrey Johnson days where nine was his career high in 153 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: a season. Right, there's career, Yeah, there's career. I was 154 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: hot in a season season career best nine touchdown receptions. 155 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Now Hopkins has eclipsed ten, and I think that he'll 156 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: do it again. There's no question in my mind about 157 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Hopkins and Watson coming up with that kind of connection. 158 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: And if Fuller is able to stay healthy along with Watson, 159 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I think he's able to get ten. So I'll go 160 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: over on the one and a half. I'll go over 161 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: because if Watson's gonna throw thirty five touchdowns, I think 162 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: the chances are good that two guys are gonna have 163 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: ten or more receiving touchdowns. But that is a tough 164 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: number right there, because you think about it. That doesn't 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: happen too often where you get two guys with ten 166 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: or more. But I'll take the risk and go over. 167 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, think around the league, how many how many 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: teams run the league? You're gonna have two guys that 169 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: have ten plus touchdowns? Have those web even the Steelers, 170 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: you know, even the Patriots. It's tough going the Saints. 171 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: You know, you get Drew Brees throwing a ton of 172 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, but how many spreads it out so much? 173 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: Does and Watson's gonna spread it out as well. You're 174 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: gonna have Lamar Miller. You know, I think we forget 175 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: about Lamar Miller as a weapon in this offense. I mean, 176 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: he's mister dependable, all right, he might. It's funny because 177 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: John McClean always talks about why can't he played as 178 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: well as he did against the Texans when the Texans 179 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: lost to Miami and that blowout in twenty fifty, that 180 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: was a long John McLean impression right there. We Look, 181 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: that was a day for Lamar Miller. It was you 182 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: can't expect that every week. And look, you know you're 183 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: dealing with an offensive line in transition, and they will 184 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: be again this year. But he is dependable and he'll 185 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: be heard from a lot. I think receiving and running. Yeah, 186 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: all right, so I'll go over. I'll go over to 187 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Even though I think that I think DeAndre could be 188 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: in the thirteen fourteen. I think if Will gets the ten, 189 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: that'd be great. I just think the the other guys, 190 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: guys like Kik Qt, tight Ends, Lamar and Deonte out 191 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: of the backfield, those guys have all got to pick 192 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: up multiple touchdowns two plus touchdowns each from a receiving standpoint, uh, 193 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: and that could pull away from one of them. They 194 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: could as in Fantasy league where they say, um u, gosh, 195 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: I can't a handicap no one, it's not that scavenge 196 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: the touchdown. That's what what I'm looking for. Um But 197 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: they they've got to pick up multiple touchdowns. So I 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: do feel like Will be closer to ten than the 199 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: number he was projected to get with with d Sean. 200 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: I think if there's anything that falls off, I think 201 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that teams will will try to 202 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: take a team they'll try to definitely take away that 203 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: ball and take Will away. I think there's a possible 204 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: going back to Deandre's tweet the night that will Fuller 205 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: was the night that will Fuller was drafted. He said 206 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: no more double teams. Yonder is still gonna see double teams, 207 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: but I think there's gonna be a heavy focus against 208 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: his team of giving up the depot. Then I'm going 209 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: right to Hopkins. Thank you you paid that much attention 210 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to Fuller. Hopkins is open, gonna throw one of you 211 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: right now. Tight Ends as a group one hundred catches 212 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: over under, I'm gonna go under because of the well, 213 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: it is tough. I think though, that's a solid pick 214 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: right there. Osweiler went nuts throwing to the tight Ends 215 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and maybe he was just more comfortable 216 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: doing that. Dorwitz and Griffin had that great year, and 217 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Anderson had a few catches as well. But I think 218 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: it is under because the receivers are gonna get so 219 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: much action with Watson, and yeah, they'll get attention. I 220 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: think the tight Ends are gonna have a good year, 221 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: much better than last year. How could they not, as 222 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: long as they stay healthy. But I think that under 223 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: a hundred is a safe pick here. I think that, yeah, 224 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: I think under one hundred, and if you can keep 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: in mind that year in sixteen, Steven had eleven catches 226 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: cg at fifty four and right, that was one hundred 227 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: and fifteen. Yeah, that's that's well over the number, but 228 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: that was a that was a healthy amount for Tights 229 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: season they ever had here exactly. So from that that perspective, 230 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: I think, I think one hundred. But then you start 231 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: thinking about, man you've got I think Steven Anderson could 232 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: catch thirty thirty five. I think Griffin healthy thirty thirty five. 233 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: He will. He caught twenty five last year, and he 234 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: didn't play in every game, and there were games. But 235 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the thing is is there are games in which with 236 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: with the offense they're running. There are games in which 237 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: the tight ends are featured. There are some games when 238 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: it's they're not as featured. So that's and here's the 239 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: other thing too. Brock's default checkdown was always the tight ends. 240 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: The Shawn's default checkdown ends up being the running backs 241 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of times, and those guys into making big places, 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: which leads me to the running backs. Okay, Deonta foremant 243 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: the over under is nine hundred rushing yards under. You're 244 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: going under for the going under because they're gonna split 245 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: carries he and Lamar Miller, And look at thousand yards 246 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: is not exactly an enormous amount right in the National 247 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Football League for an individual sixty six yards Again, Lamar 248 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: had what eight hundred plus last year. Ye, you're not 249 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna I don't think you're gonna get that. And he's 250 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: coming off the Achilles. I think he'll play. I think 251 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: he'll make some really great plays, but I think it'll 252 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: be a complimentary kind of thing. I think Lamar is 253 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: still gonna get a lot of carries, So you're going 254 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot. I'm gonna go under nine hundred yards is 255 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: a bad year. I think he's gonna catch the ball 256 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot too. If I set that same number for Lamar, 257 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: would you go under over d rushing yards or let's 258 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: put it this way, how about this fifteen hundred combined 259 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: rushing yards Lamar Millart, Now you're going over. Now I'm 260 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: going over. I just don't think I'm going over nine 261 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: h rid for Forming and over a thousand for Miller. 262 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: I think they'll both be somewhere between eight and nine. 263 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: And I think that'll be a really nice year for 264 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: this team. You think about it, you start adding up 265 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: those rushing yards and then whoever else happens to get 266 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: in the mix for some carries. I don't know if 267 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: Terry swat Swanson is going to do something as an 268 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie. Look, I don't know if Tyler Irvin comes 269 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: back and carries the ball finally for this team. We 270 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: know prosh isn't gonna get any action there. Sorry, Jay, 271 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: not gonna fight for yeah, but it's just not gonna happen. 272 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: Come on, So I think that, uh, it's it's reasonable 273 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: to say eight nine hundred yards apiece for those guys. 274 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: And you know what, if you're offering me that right 275 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: now instead of what's behind door number two, I'm taking 276 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: that nine yard right now, right now. Okay, Yeah, k 277 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: qt Jordan Thomas, Jordan Aikins, Okay. Three rookie, potentially Terry Swanson, 278 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: all rookies. Yeah, six and a half. Total number of 279 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: touchdowns accounted for by all rookies six and a half. Oh, 280 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: that's a good over under, because who knows at this point. 281 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean, here we are touchdowns, rushing, receiving return maybe 282 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: six and a half first days, and I'm gonna predict 283 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: how many touchdowns the rookies have. Oh gosh, Bill Brian. 284 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brian is listening. He's ready to drive back here 285 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: and strangle me. He really is. He's driving back. The 286 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: door's gonna fly, door's gonna fly open in thirty seconds, 287 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: and now will be it. Yeah. As a coach, he 288 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: hears this and his skin crawls a little bit. But 289 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: as a sports fan he gets it. Yeah, he does. 290 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: He understands his kind of talk. And I'm gonna go over. 291 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over the six and a half because 292 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: if he's gonna throw that many touchdowns, the rookies are 293 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna have, you know, a half dozen to ten touchdowns combined. 294 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I would believe that would be the case. But as 295 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: I say that, Johnny, when you look at the two 296 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: rookie tight ends, chances are one of them is not 297 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: gonna do a whole lot, you know what I mean, 298 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: It's just gonna work out that way. I don't know who. 299 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it's injuries, maybe it's he needs time to develop, 300 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what. And Terry Swanson, I mean, how 301 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: can you say that he's gonna do anything yet, although 302 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: maybe he turns into a gym. I think Terry Swanson's 303 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I think I just have this feeling 304 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: about Terry Swanson. Yeah, Terry Swanson Lavan Comma. Two running 305 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: backs kind of a thunder and they're kind of their 306 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: own thunder and lightning deal back there. I wouldn't be 307 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: surprising both of them make this team, to be honest 308 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: with you, but it's a matter of whether they can 309 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: end up staying healthy. I mean it's it's it's like 310 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: Canadian football versus American football. When you look at, well, 311 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: what he did at Toledo versus you know, the NFL, 312 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: it's just like not apples to apples. But when you 313 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: look at Kareem Hunt and the comparison there, you compare 314 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt's numbers at Toledo to Swanson. Look, he wasn't 315 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: as good as Kareem Hunt at Toledo, but he was 316 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean he carried the load. He scored 317 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: what thirteen touchdowns last year and a lot of yards 318 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: say for carry. I mean the chances are just on 319 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: paper he should be able to do something in this league. 320 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: So you're going over the six and a half. I 321 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: am all right, Mark, nice job, Thank you, Thanks Johnny. 322 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Coming up next, how about a little Julian Davin Port Yeah, 323 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: he stopped by the studio a couple days ago. Will 324 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: have that for you on the eve of OTAs well 325 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: for us. Anyways, well that for you next right here 326 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: in Texans Axis. Welcome back to Monday edition of Texas 327 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: All Access from the Hounday Texans Radio Studio. I'm John Harris, 328 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Foot Pollanos and silent reporter for your Houston Texans. Glad 329 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: to be with you on this wonderful Monday evening. We 330 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: just got through talking with Mark Vandom right now. Mark 331 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Shann joined us in this segment as well, along with Dbcity. 332 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: They had an opportunity to speak with one of I 333 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: would think the five most pivotal figures slash players for 334 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: this Texans team in twenty eighteen. Julian Davenport. Lot has 335 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: been mentioned. I've talked to everybody's talked about him, but 336 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Julian Davenports started the last two games. He started three 337 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: games for the Texans last year, one against the Colts 338 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: earlier in the year, then two games at the end 339 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: of the year, one against the coltson won against the 340 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: Steelers the last two games of the year, and I've 341 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: talked about those two games, going back and watching those 342 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and looking at the things that Julian was doing right. 343 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Thinks he wasn't doing earlier in the year, the progress 344 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: he made, and it's guys like t J Watt and 345 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: Jibol shared especially. Sheered the guy that has given the 346 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: Texans so many issues, whether it's with the Patriots or 347 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: with the Colts last year. He's the guy that gives 348 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: them a ton of issues, and Julian I thought held 349 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: his own against him well. During our media days, Juliane 350 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: came in the studio and talked with both Mark Vandomir 351 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: and dpcited. Of course, Mark had to get to the 352 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: bottom of Julian or Juliane Joanna gets right now in 353 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: the Junday Texans Radio studio, it's Julian Davenport. Now, did 354 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: I pronounce that correctly? Julian yep, Julian. So all your life, 355 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: people have been mispronounced to get I'm sure, and dep 356 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: actually uncovered the correct pronounciation drafted. I took credit for it. 357 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: But you just you're just you're just a nice guy. 358 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: You just let people saying because you get tired of 359 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: people correcting. I mean, yeah, you know, I answer to both. 360 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: I know who they mean when they say the name. 361 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: So It's all good in my book. I understand that 362 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: because as someone who gets their name mispronounced all the time, 363 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: at some point you just say, you know what, just 364 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: call me with for you want. Yeah, exactly. But I'm 365 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: glad everyone's calling you, Julian. I'm glad that you're here 366 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: as well. Okay, so you're from South Jersey and you 367 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: end up going to Bucknell, which is, you know, great school. 368 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: What were your other options? How did that happen? And 369 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: did you grow a lot right when you got there? 370 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: What was the recruiting process? So in high school I 371 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: had I would say more bigger offers. I would say 372 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: I committed very early, which made me lose my offers. 373 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I committed the old dominion and I still wanted to 374 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: be recruited. So as the process went down, I eventually 375 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: decommitted to open and back up. And when it came 376 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: down to it, I took an official visit to Fordham 377 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: University and Bucknell University. Bucknell, you didn't like Fordham, you 378 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to live in the Bronx. Yeah. I wasn't 379 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: a real city guy. I know. Buck now was more smaller, 380 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: kind of like home. Kind of felt myself there. Oh yeah, 381 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: the Bison. It's a nice place to be. Yeah. I 382 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: was gonna say, what was it about Bucknell? It was 383 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: just the atmosphere. Yeah. Like me, I'm more so a 384 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: filling out guy, So just being there and you know, 385 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: just kind of walking around and feeling that that atmosphere, 386 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: as you said, it just felt like the place for me. 387 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: Did you know that you were going to go into 388 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: the NFL when you were applying for colleges. Did you 389 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: ever worry that going to a smaller school versus a 390 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: bigger school, how that would affect you later on? Or 391 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: was that you just wanted to go where you'd fit in. Yeah, 392 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean that was always the dream. And even when 393 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: I came in as a freshman, I was telling people that, hey, 394 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: like I'm looking to go to NFL. I know the 395 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: school doesn't have, you know, big history of people going 396 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: to NFL and football, but that was me. And as 397 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: I went through my years, you know, people started to 398 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: come to the realization that hey, this is probably going 399 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: to happen for this guy. And and nobody had been 400 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: drafted out of Bucknail for like a number of years, 401 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: I want to say, like forty years. I think nineteen 402 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: sixty nine was the last one. Yeah, it was. It 403 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: was a there was a long stretch and then you 404 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: you broke the street being drafted. Yeah, you know. So 405 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: it's been very special, definitely big for the school, you know, 406 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: to just be that one, you know, of many who 407 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: I know absolutely had probably had chances and tried to 408 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: and just wasn't fortunate enough. So I'm glad I got 409 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: that opportunity. You know, the alumni association is going to 410 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: be called like Jillian Davidport trucking out South Texas Radio. 411 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: What about physically? Were you the same or obviously weren't 412 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: the same size going into college, but how did you 413 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: develop physically? You're six seven right now around three twenty. Yeah, 414 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: so I would say I came in my freshman year 415 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: through high school, I was knowing that football was going 416 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: to be my sport and I played basketball as well. 417 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: Started to put on weight. I came in my freshman 418 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: year in the camp at three on nine, you know, 419 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: probably some good weight, some bad weight. But as I 420 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: went through college, you know, it was hard to keep 421 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: it up because I was a leaner guy, you know, 422 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: So went through the years and I used to sweat. 423 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: I still do sweat a lot and lose a lot 424 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: of weight, you know, working in that sun, so sometimes 425 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: the weight would fluctuate, but always stayed between that three 426 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: hundred three ten range. I'm glad you said good weight 427 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: and bad weight, all right, because a lot of people 428 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: don't differentiate that of three actually hundred pound offensive lineman 429 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: three hundred is not necessarily three hundred good pounds, right, Yeah, 430 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: So what are you doing right now? How has that 431 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: changed since you've entered the league as a rookie going 432 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: into year two? Oh well, you know, just I would 433 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: say the better opportunity of you know, food that's available 434 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: right for me right now, I would say, because we 435 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: didn't have a training table like other schools did, bigger schools, 436 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: so it was just had to eat as what was available. 437 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: But now you know, it's the right food and the 438 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: cafeteria for us. If you got the new strength guys, 439 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: new nutritionists and they're all like working with everybody to 440 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, have all that weight that you got to 441 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: be as much good weight as possible and have your 442 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: body feeling amazing. How about this offseason You've talked about opportunity. 443 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's talked about the opportunity for the old lineman 444 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: and yourself. I mean he says that, you know you're 445 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: ready to play left tackle if you need to. Because 446 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: last year, obviously you've got a couple of starts. How 447 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: much did that help you getting those starts late in 448 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: the season, And what's your perspective heading into training camp 449 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: this offseason. I mean, it starts last season definitely. You know, 450 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: was great to get the experience and the opportunity to 451 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: go out there and play against guys who've been playing 452 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: in the league for years. So I took that and 453 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: ran with it. And now I'm trying to take this 454 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: spot left tackle and run with it and never look back. 455 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: So I'm looking to go into training camp and you know, 456 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: not hold back on anything and go one hundred percent 457 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: every day, every play, and you know, take this spot 458 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: and basically solidified. What was that like against the Pittsburgh 459 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: Steelers Christmas Day? It's the Steelers that experience for you, Yeah, 460 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was amazing. That was actually 461 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: my favorite football team growing up, so it was a 462 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: good game for me. And to be able to start 463 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: against them on Christmas. You know, everybody was I would 464 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: say a little more hype for me than I was, 465 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: but like I was just hype to have the opportunity 466 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to you know, play and start in the game, and 467 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: it was amazing. I thought I played a good game 468 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: and went out there and fall hard. Julian Tavenport joining us. 469 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: Take us back to next year, Lord, last year's offseason 470 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: training camp. What was a real welcome to the NFL 471 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: type of moment for you, Oh, welcome to the NFL. H. 472 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I had too much, you know, I 473 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: was just I was the rookie coming in and so 474 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, not that to say they don't care about 475 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: the rookies, but you're going to be doing a lot more. 476 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: So Yeah, I just had some times to where I 477 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: was taking a lot of reps, you know, with different 478 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: teams and all back to back to back, and I 479 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: would go in, you know, say, come out of fifteen 480 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: play drive, go right to the next one, switch sides, 481 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: and get real exhausted. Like I had one play to 482 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: where it was at the end of like our last 483 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: drive and I've already probably ran about thirty plays in 484 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: a row, and I was just tired, and I just 485 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: went the wrong way. Okay, so it was my mess up, 486 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: but gotta be gotta be zoned inn when going gets tough. 487 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: What do you think you really need to work on 488 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: coming into year two here or what a hap you 489 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: worked on? I mean, definitely, you know, you can never 490 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: work on too much technique because nobody's perfect. So that's 491 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: every day, you know, get grinding on that technique, continuing 492 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: to work on the body as well, because you know 493 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: that's going to help you stay injury free and stay 494 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: in this league a long time. So technique, body strength, 495 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, all the tangibles to make me one of 496 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: the best alignment out there ever since I've been in 497 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: Houston media basically other than two thousand and seven, talking 498 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: about Dwayne Brown being the left tackle for this team, 499 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: sort of like Ron Popeel set it and forget it. 500 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Dwayne was a guy, you know, he was a guy. 501 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: You really have talked about left tackle too much. But 502 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: I think left tackle has been been a huge talking 503 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: point this offseason, obviously because of the troubles the offensive 504 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: line had last year and then a second year player 505 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: who has all three career starts starting potentially at left tackle. 506 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: Will there be competition? Of course, They're always be competition 507 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: left tackle, right tackle, center guard, right left whatever, there's 508 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: always gonna be competition, I would think at least for 509 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: the next couple of years. But hopefully with the addition 510 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: to Zach Fulton and Seneo Kilomette and Sean Charle Henderson 511 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: and then holdovers like Nick Martin and Julian Davenport and 512 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller in particular David Questenbury, that this team can 513 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: find it's five old lineman feel very confident in that 514 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: in a group that can grow together and get better 515 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: weekend and week out. And I think that was the 516 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: one thing about the offensive line last year. We felt 517 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: like it needed to get better weekend and week out, 518 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: and there were times you felt like, Okay, Mape and 519 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: then the next week, no, you're not, We're not getting there. 520 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Five different left tackles started last year. Hopefully this is 521 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a line that stays healthy and can maintain 522 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 1: its continuity and then take that next step. If they 523 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: take the next step, those five guys up front find 524 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: a swing tackle, a guy that can play in the 525 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: interior number of different positions. This offense got a chance 526 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: to do some of the things that we talked about 527 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: in that first segment with Mark Man With Mark Vani Bert. Now, 528 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: let's talk about the defense side of the ball. I 529 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: wrote about the defense for the yearbook, is Mark wrote 530 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: about the offense. There's some interesting things to come out 531 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: of my study of the offense and the impact obviously 532 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: of Whitney, Merciless and JJ Watt going down, and how 533 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: things change, especially statistically for this defense. Let's do over 534 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: unders with Drew Doherty speaking of numbers next right here 535 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. I want to find a segment 536 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access from the hunday Texans Radio studio. 537 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: John Harris here, Drew Doherty there, Drew, what's going on 538 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: about it? How you doing not much? How are you Jonathan? 539 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: We are We're doing well. Did a segment earlier with 540 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: Mark over unders on the offensive side of the ball, 541 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: because Mark had written about the offense for the yearbook, 542 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of changes on the defensive side 543 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: of the ball. So I figured, you know what, let's 544 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: do some over unders on the defensive side of the man. 545 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: The sports wagering world has now changed with this Landmark 546 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: announcement at the beginning of last week. It's a wild 547 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: wild West, it is, and so that bleeds over into 548 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Texans All Access Now, keep in mind we always do. 549 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: I've done these, We've done over under, We've been doing this. Yeah, 550 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: so this is nothing new, but it's presented in a 551 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: landscape I suppose. I don't think you're gonna come to 552 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: Energy Stadium be able to gamble on over unders. But 553 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: it's a good talking point. Yet, all right, you're ready. Yeah, 554 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: so here you go over under now before as before, asses, 555 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and just assume full health for everybody 556 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. Okay, okay, assume full health, which 557 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: leads me to number one. And why I say that 558 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: over under twelve and a half the number of sacks 559 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: forge Devion Clowney in twenty eighteen, twelve and a half. 560 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: It's a pretty rich number. I'm gonna go under, and 561 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be by much. Okay, but he still, 562 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: even after the year he had this year, he didn't 563 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: get double digit sack and alf. Yeah, he was still 564 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: a disruptive force. He was a fearsome force. But I 565 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: don't I don't know that he's gonna get the sack numbers. 566 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: I could see his total going up, but still not 567 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: reaching that right. I could see him getting like ten 568 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: and a half or eleven, which would still be an improvement. 569 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: You know, he just wrecked shop in the run game 570 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: as well. Um as far as getting TFLs and he 571 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: gets they need to create a new category, a new 572 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: statistic for him. Tackles caused by throwing another offensive teammate, 573 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: because at times last year we saw him tackle guys 574 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: with a left tackle, a fullback in the tight end. 575 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say under, but not by much. I 576 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: was watching the Cardinals game. There are two reasons. Number One, 577 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: I started wanting to see what Tyron Matthew looked like 578 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: against US, and there was there was a hilarious play 579 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: in that game where Bruce Ellington, before Bruce Ellington went 580 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: in motion, Tyrn Matthew started to go in motion to 581 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: the other side and you could almost see Tyrand like 582 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: motioned like motion to him like all right, come on, 583 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: I know you're going yeah, and he did and Bruce 584 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: went in motion. It was like Tyran knew that Bruce 585 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: was gonna go in motion or Bruce went in motion. 586 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: Just amazing to watch that guy work. And then I 587 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: watched the defensive side of the ball. And as I 588 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: was watching the defensive side of the ball, you just 589 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: you can't take your eyes off Clowney. And there was 590 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: a play that game against the Cardinals where they tried 591 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: to block him with the tight end they had. They 592 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: had a they had a three tight end alignment. They 593 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: had too, I'm sorry, they had two tight ends, had 594 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: a tight end that kind of a wing, and they 595 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: were trying to block Clowney with the tight end just 596 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: and I think it was Jerman Greshian, I don't recall, 597 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: and I'm telling he took Gresham in a similar manner 598 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: and just drove him right into the backfield, and he 599 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: drove him far enough that there was a gap that 600 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: opened up where the running back was trying to get 601 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: through his Adrian Peterson. So he's holding Gresham off with 602 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: one arm and he tackles Adrian Peterson with the other. 603 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean Adrian John Peterson. Think about him, man, I 604 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: mean we saw it on this his first game with 605 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: the Texans back and fourteen in the preseason against the Cardinals. 606 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: If he can rag doll your left tackle, yeah he can. 607 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna eat your tight end and your fullback and 608 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: you're running. He's gonna take care of any of those 609 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: lesser blocking players. He can do that. So I mean, 610 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: I still think his sack number will go up, but 611 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll jump that drastically, say under 612 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: the leader and just I got me thinking as we 613 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: were talking. Chandler Jones led the league of sacks last 614 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: year with seventeen. They had Class Campbell and the Marcus 615 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Lawrence fourteen and a half each, Everson Griffin camera Jordan 616 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan on thirteen. That was tied for fourth in 617 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: the league last year. So twelve and a half would 618 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: have put Jadevion tied for seven. That's a pretty rich number. 619 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: So I put that number up there pretty high, So 620 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I do think it's unverybody thinks 621 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: double digits. I think it's someone between ten and twelve 622 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: and a half. And it still points back to the 623 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: greatness that is jj Watt twenty two different times. I mean, 624 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 1: he's he's hit that mark two different times, all right, 625 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: So let's put that number out there. The number for 626 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: jj Watt sacks, the over under number is fourteen. Wow, 627 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: that's a high number for pretty that's a pretty stealthy health. 628 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Judging by you and I've talked about this, judging by 629 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: his response, is a couple of weeks ago to questions 630 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: about where he is. It's very coy about this, and 631 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: I think and it's a calculated coyness. And I think 632 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: he's in his mind health wise because we've seen him 633 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: swinging a golf club and that's that puts a weird 634 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: torque on your back, and he had a back injury 635 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I think he's gonna be back, 636 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say over. I think he's gonna be 637 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: able to do this. I really do. And I think 638 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: he's making a list, checking it twice and everybody that's 639 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: doubting him, and he's remembering that because that, in part 640 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: sometimes fuels him. I think he's I think he's primed 641 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: and ready for a big year, so because he knows 642 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: there are people doubting him. Yeah, you know, he knows 643 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: that to keep this, keep that number in perspective his 644 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: rookie year at five and a half. In the last 645 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: two years he's played, he played three games in sixteen 646 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: and four games in seventeen is Week five, but it 647 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: was really four games because early in that game. Every 648 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: other year one two, three, So those four other years 649 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: he's been seventeen and a half plus. Yeah, three of 650 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: those four years, and the other year was twenty thirteen, 651 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: that crappy year of two and fourteen. He had ten 652 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: and a half sacks that year and he was still 653 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: a dominant four s year. He still was incredible in 654 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. So fourteen is again full healthy. And I 655 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: saw it last year. We saw I mean we did 656 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: a film room on him. Now we did it in 657 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: the New England game with him against the run but 658 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: rushing to quarterback. If you just watched him, JJ got 659 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: close I don't know how many times to get him 660 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: back to the quarterback against Tom Brady. I mean he 661 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: hits when they were when they were making a calculated 662 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: effort to go away from him and keep the protection 663 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: max against him. So and one of the things for 664 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: JJ two is he gets him in bunches. Yeah, Like 665 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: he'll get two one week, then three to next. I 666 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: mean he'll he'll get them in bunches and then teams 667 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: are like, oh we got double and triple team him. 668 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: He'll still get the hurries, he'll get tackles for losses. 669 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: He might I get a sack for a while. And 670 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: that's sort of what happened to him at the beginning 671 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: of seventeen. But I think if he's fully healthy, I 672 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: think fourteen is is absolutely within within reason. Okay, let's 673 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: go to the one side. You and I always talk about. 674 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: You always bring this up intelligently. In fact, I wrote 675 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: about the defense for the yearbook, and one of the 676 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: things I noticed the defense, this is how weird last 677 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: year was Since twenty eleven, the Texans had been in 678 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: the top seven in total defense in the NFL every 679 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: year but one. That was twenty fourteen. There was sixteen. 680 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: But the difference was in that year than takeaways. Thirty 681 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: four turnovers that year. Give me that every day of 682 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: the week. Okay, so here we go. Team turnovers forced. Now, 683 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: Texans forced a lot of opportunities, but they didn't get 684 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 1: all of them, especially earlier in the year. Team turnovers forced, 685 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: I'm putting the number at twenty five. Twenty five. That's 686 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: a jump of nine. Yep, team, Yep, defense was fifteen. 687 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: You got a fumble recovery on a punt return last year, 688 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: so the defense did fifteen. You're saying team, I think 689 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: that's it's a good number. I'm gonna go o by 690 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: a little bit because I do think on special teams, 691 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a market improvement there. You've 692 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: got some guys who are experiencing that area. They're faster 693 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: on the whole than what we've seen here lately. Special teams, 694 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: but defensively, I think it's gonna rise because of an 695 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: opportunistic guy like Tyrn Matthew. I think Justin Reid's going 696 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: to add to that. But more importantly, I think just 697 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: the past rush being back with Watt, with Merciless, with Clowney, 698 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: and the maturation of young guys like Reader Covington Watkins. 699 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Brandon Dunn is a very productive guy. Yes, when he 700 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: got gets experienced very much. Maybe if you sometimes see 701 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: you Fambacamaldo, I think he's gonna come along. So yeah, 702 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: I think that rises. I think twenty five is a 703 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: number that will get beat. So last year you mentioned 704 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: it was sixteen and twenty sixteen, when they were the 705 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: number one defense in the league, they only generated seventeen turnovers. 706 00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen they generated twenty five turnovers. I think 707 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: it is more in line with what they'll do. And 708 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen they generated thirty four turnovers, and they 709 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: had in twenty fourteen they had I believe a dozen 710 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: issh that were backed up when they got these turnovers 711 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: when they were in their own red zones. So they 712 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: were ye, the other team was about to score and 713 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: they got a turnover. It was remarkable. So I don't 714 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: know that you'll get to that number, but you'll get 715 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: I think you'll get above twenty five because of everything 716 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: coming back. So unorbell O'Brien thirty four, twenty five sixteen seventeen, 717 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: so thirty three fifty eight nine two average twenty three 718 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: a year. So put the number twenty five. Yeah. I 719 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: tend to think with the number of ball hawk type 720 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: players they added, like you mentioned Cunningham maturing in the middle, 721 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: a whole maturing in the middle, those are guys who 722 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: are ball hawk ish Aaron Colvin. So yeah, I think 723 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: you've upgraded there and you will. Okay, let's take those 724 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: men you just mentioned, Zach Cunningham. Let's combined him with 725 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: Bernardrick McKinney. Combine n tackles Cunningham and McKinney. Now this 726 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: has got a lot of layers because you'd like to 727 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: think if you're heading games, teams are gonna throw the 728 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: ball more. Maybe they don't have as many tackles. If 729 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: you're heading games, maybe those guys aren't playing because they're 730 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: getting some rest. If you're you know, if your offense 731 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: is dominating the time possessed you. Because offense is dominated, 732 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: defenses out there as much. Kind of like it was 733 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: against Tennessee a Tennessee game. Now you played thirty two. 734 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: So this has got a pretty nuanced fuel. Total number 735 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: of tackles Zach Cuttingham and Bernardrick McKinney. Last year it 736 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: was one hundred and eighty five. If I think it 737 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: was ninety five and ninety, I believe one hundred and 738 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: eighty five. This year, I'm setting the number at one 739 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety total tackles. You're going over under total 740 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: tackles Bernardrick McKinney and Zach Cuttingham all runners one nine. 741 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay under. I think they won't be out 742 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: there as much. I think they'll still be active. But yeah, 743 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: I'll say just under. Just that's a good number. It's 744 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: a good Vegas number. You number you got really got 745 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: to think about. I'm gonna say under. I don't think 746 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: that they'll get above that. I think they're, like I said, 747 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 1: all those different layers make you think because my first 748 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: inclination was to put it well over two hundred. But 749 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have your You'll see more defensive 750 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: line tackles and you did last year, and more secondary tackles. 751 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: I think that'll draw away from what we saw last year, 752 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: those guys gobbling them up in the middle. Well, I 753 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: I yeah, exactly. And I think one other thing I 754 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: think about in that Tennessee game. Now, you're not gonna 755 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: beat teams fifty seven to fourteen and often, but in 756 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: that Tennessee game, the majority of the starters played essentially 757 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: half the game. They played thirty two plays. That was 758 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: all that those guys played. Thirty two plays. Now, if 759 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: you consider you're ahead in the game, the team's having 760 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: to throw so of those thirty two plays, how many 761 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: those end up being true opportunities to make a tackle? 762 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: And the hope is that you have a few more 763 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: games like that because of the offense that you're gonna have, 764 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: and the offense is gonna dominate the ball, etc. So 765 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: I would actually say it's it's under but I think 766 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: both of them get to ninety. I think it's somewhere 767 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: in that one eighty one ninety range. I think they 768 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: have kind of the same feeling. And again to your point, 769 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: you're bringing in one of the better tacklers in the NFL, 770 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: and Tyron Matthew one of the best, uh whether you know, 771 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: just to read coming in and his size having to 772 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: come in you know, pick up some of those tackles. 773 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: And then if Kareem is allowed to play inside and 774 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: I have to go outside this brooch, Kareem is an 775 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: excellent tackler as well. That also that I was gonna say, also, 776 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: how does he how does Romeo deploy some of these 777 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: defensive backs as far as so who's playing like a 778 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: box safety is right? Who's gonna helping us to run? 779 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: Who's gonna do those kind of things? And then also 780 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: they got to get past Merciless Clowney Watt reader as 781 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: you mentioned, they got to get past that defensive line 782 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: because one thing JJ did was he gobbled up a 783 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of Yea and Clowney too. TFLs think about that. 784 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: How much are those guys Watt and Clowney gonna split 785 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: or add to the tackle for lost statistic and you 786 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: throw the Merciless in that picks too. That's the key 787 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: to me, I think is getting those guys opportunity. I 788 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: felt like last year those guys helped themselves get opportunities 789 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: when in the games they played together, they would help 790 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: themselves good opportunities because they would have some TFLs and 791 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: they have some plays. But like New England, I think 792 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: it was a perfect example of that. They would have 793 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: those opportunities, and then they got themselves opportunities to go 794 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: rush Tom Brady and they got there a few times. 795 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: And then there are a few times when a secondary 796 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: just wasn't able to hold up against I think the 797 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: secondary holds up a little bit better. It's like in 798 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: any game. I mean, the ball bounces differently on two plays. 799 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: Last year in New England, you win by fifteen sixteen points, 800 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: same thing. You go for them. You think they could 801 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: a boat race the Texans had, but the ball pops 802 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: Luice after Gil Chris hits Brady boom game over or 803 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: down what would have been a remarkable interception game or 804 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: earlier in the contest. The fumble that that that they 805 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: basically they ruled with the ball just kind of popped 806 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: from Brady. Yeah, you know that. That gives you some momentum. 807 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: Now you're you're absolutely right about that. So I Yeah, 808 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I feel like under one 809 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 1: ninety combined tackles for McKinney and uh for cutting Ham 810 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: se Cunningham's number, his number growing up and McKinney's going down. 811 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: I could see that a little bit. Yeah, just because 812 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna I think Zach's gonna be asked to do 813 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: a lot more. I said the other night, I said 814 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the top five players on 815 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: this team. I think he's gonna have a fabulous series. 816 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: All Right, we can't leave without a hunting Badger. And 817 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: he was kind of the he was kind of impetus 818 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: for all this, just thinking about a Honey Badger interception. 819 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: Let's we'll do this fumbles forced plus interceptions for the 820 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: Honey Badger this year. I'm setting the number at six 821 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: combined forced fumbles and interception. Wow. Okay, Yeah, if he 822 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: creates ten, oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, that'll that one. 823 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: That's one heck of a year. Because I think he's 824 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: gonna benefit from this improved pass rush. Yeah, I really do. 825 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: And and he's also gonna benefit from he has said 826 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: this a couple of times now. He's like, this is 827 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: I haven't been this healthy since I was at LSU 828 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: in my young days at LSU's and he's putting up 829 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: all these videos of him working out and the footwork stuff. 830 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I can't wait to see what he does. 831 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: So and he's very motivated, very much so. His best 832 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: year at Arizona, he had five interceptions, one force fumble. 833 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: That's six. Now that was Arizona. Yeah, now, Clays Campbell 834 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 1: was there, but not quite the full strength of defense 835 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: in his career. First year, two interceptions, one fumble, US three. 836 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: Second year he had m He only started six games. 837 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: He had one interception, no force fumbles, and he had 838 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: six in that Pro Bowl year he had one interception, 839 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: one force fumble. Last year he had two interceptions at 840 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: one force five. I can see the numbering around eight. 841 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: You know, Like, I think he's gonna force more fumbles 842 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: this year. I think so too. And I think he'll 843 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: get like three or four PI. I think so too. 844 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: And when you got a good front seven and you're 845 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: that last guy to come in, get those get that 846 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: ball out, rip it out, you have that opportunity to 847 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: do that. I think he's got that and he did 848 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: in college because he's gonna be some floaters that the 849 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: guys let loose because JJ is getting there. Whitney's getting there, clown, 850 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: he's getting there, and he's gonna he's gonna capitalize. Drew 851 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: appreciative a man, Thank time, and there's the show. Gotta 852 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: thank Drew, Gotta thank Julian Davenport, depe Mark and all 853 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: of you for listening. Thank you so much. For everybody 854 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: we'll see tomorrow first day of OTAs well for us anyways, 855 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: we'll see you then. As always, go Texans,