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Speaker 2: I want to listen with this guest that we're about
Speaker 2: to introduce. The last time he came on our show,
Speaker 2: he said, brothers, we gotta go back to Africa. And
Speaker 2: it seems like since then, people are going back to Africa.
Speaker 2: They going back to Nigeria, Ghana. It's so many different
Speaker 2: places that we gotta go. I know you've been to
Speaker 2: South Africa. Well, uh, this man, we just went through
Speaker 2: his disciography and when I tell you he got hits
Speaker 2: upon his like, he almost reminds me of the Seal
Speaker 2: of this generation. You know how Seal no one, no
Speaker 2: one gave a fuck with what race Seal was. He
Speaker 2: just made the best music and everybody said, Pucket, you
Speaker 2: roll with Seal. Goddamn it. He is the Seal and
Speaker 2: this generation. He got the illes hair cut in the
Speaker 2: world right now, hit after hit, when my first time
Speaker 2: going to Africa, I'm going with him? I see he
Speaker 2: just went with Earn your lesions.
Speaker 1: Did y'all go to Africa?
Speaker 2: Actually Africa? Oh wow, we're gonna get into that. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get into everything. But Casey, I don't know who
Speaker 2: we told about. We talking about the one, the only
Speaker 2: motherfucker car, the eight car. It's you know, it was
Speaker 2: very interesting going through the discography and I'm listening to
Speaker 2: Locked Up right because when I googled you, one of
Speaker 2: the things that popped up was they said you was
Speaker 2: a professional card and you kind of set it on
Speaker 2: Locked Up just now said you said my car is.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna registration. You know you were.
Speaker 2: But because when when you google you, that's actually something
Speaker 2: that comes up that says that, yeah, I believe you
Speaker 2: said it on a different platform. So you used to
Speaker 2: this is a new Jersey imagine.
Speaker 1: New Jersey drive drive.
Speaker 2: So what happened? Someone come up to you and say,
Speaker 2: let's just because because you're a sophisticated car still like
Speaker 2: you wasn't like popping ship. You was changing the serial numbers.
Speaker 2: And she's like that is that true?
Speaker 1: It was a.
Speaker 2: Just expect that every time.
Speaker 1: How did that happen?
Speaker 3: Well, getting back to the past, it was like I
Speaker 3: was never the kind of person when it came to
Speaker 3: some you know what's interesting, Like I think I say
Speaker 3: the word that I was. I kind of used the
Speaker 3: excuse that I was surviving because it made me feel
Speaker 3: better about it.
Speaker 1: But that was nothing for me to about.
Speaker 3: It was nothing really for me to survive because my
Speaker 3: parents was actually really wealthy. You know, we lived like
Speaker 3: I was, and I was living in Jersey. We lived
Speaker 3: in a three story house, just me and my older brother,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So we have a house
Speaker 3: to ourselves now when I think about it, we were
Speaker 3: just bored as hell looking at something, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But what was interesting was as I started
Speaker 3: watching a lot of my homies, you know, they selling
Speaker 3: drugs and I didn't understand, like, why such hard labor
Speaker 3: for no money? These niggas would be like on a
Speaker 3: corner rain seat, sleek hell Snow. I was born in
Speaker 3: Senegue in St. Louis Louis, Saint Louis, but then I
Speaker 3: was raising Senegal.
Speaker 2: Raised, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: Were you there when I was a Senegalgue from birth?
Speaker 3: What was borron in Senegalue? I mean Saint Louis shipped Senegal.
Speaker 3: Then when I was about seven and eight, that's when
Speaker 3: my mom and pop brought us back to the States
Speaker 3: to go to school, and every summer we would go
Speaker 3: back to Senegalue.
Speaker 1: Wow, So he wanted to pretty much, my dad just
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he was all born in the US.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: He's always fought with thinking since then.
Speaker 2: He wanted to have a US pastor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wanted us to be a citizen so we
Speaker 3: would never have immigration issues. So he was always thinking
Speaker 3: about the future, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So when I came here, just it was just a
Speaker 3: matter of adopting. And I think a lot of my
Speaker 3: choices came from just wanting to be a you know,
Speaker 3: accepted amongst the crowd. So that's how I got caught into,
Speaker 3: you know, all the things that I got caught into,
Speaker 3: including cars, because cars made me feel special.
Speaker 1: You know, I was young. I can drive into the
Speaker 1: most elite vehicles.
Speaker 3: And then I read with the you know, the scenarrative
Speaker 3: that I was an African prince, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So he was using that back then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, after coming to America, Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: that's a motivator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was working at this barber shop man, and
Speaker 3: you know, I met this Jamaican dude that was like yo,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, he was in the cars and
Speaker 3: I was like, man, every time I see you in
Speaker 3: a different car. And one day he's like a rude boy,
Speaker 3: let me show you something, you know. He took me
Speaker 3: to the spot, took me.
Speaker 1: I was like wow.
Speaker 3: I was mesmerized, and I was like how much of these?
Speaker 3: He was like twenty five hundred dollars apiece? I said
Speaker 3: what how is that? And he showed me the whole layout,
Speaker 3: and before you know it, I just copied and paste and.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So now, yeah, well, now like literally every other month
Speaker 3: now I would come to school in a different car
Speaker 3: and they was like yo where you know. I was like, heah,
Speaker 3: I'm an African print and they believe it because of
Speaker 3: the weapon I was driving. And so then I said,
Speaker 3: this could be something, you know, that I can actually
Speaker 3: make a career out of. Now that's how I'm thinking
Speaker 3: back then. So I was just trying to figure out
Speaker 3: the best way to do it. Then that's when Atlanta
Speaker 3: hit me because I was getting out of high school, graduating.
Speaker 3: My mops and my mom's in Atlanta because my dad
Speaker 3: was a professor doing culture exchange at Clark Atlanta University.
Speaker 3: And that's when they just had the Olympics going over
Speaker 3: there with Freaknick and everything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So when I went out there, I saw all these
Speaker 3: just young black just really successful black people. I ain't
Speaker 3: seen that many black people successful in one city since New.
Speaker 2: York, you know what I'm saying. It was even Africa.
Speaker 3: Well nah, because I wasn't there long enough to understand
Speaker 3: what that was at that time, you know. So, but
Speaker 3: so that was just different. But I saw a lot
Speaker 3: of new athletes coming out, a lot of artists out there,
Speaker 3: and then everybody was driving. So I was like, this
Speaker 3: could be the spot you know. So that's where I
Speaker 3: just set up shop in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Driving it was looking for it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all paying three Well, at that time, one
Speaker 3: hundred one hundred fifty thousand was probably the emotional pay
Speaker 3: for a car, but those was even the super high
Speaker 3: line because at that time even ninety thousand dollars was
Speaker 3: a lot for a Porsche.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So if I can get it to you for like
Speaker 3: ten grand, you know you.
Speaker 1: Was legit into that? Oh no, I was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a past sign for a teenager to day,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: It became a real It became a real occupation for
Speaker 3: me because I started finding ins and outs, like most
Speaker 3: people will go out jack people for cars, and then
Speaker 3: of course me, it was always the biggest profit for
Speaker 3: the less jail time. So I started studying the law
Speaker 3: and I realized, man, joy riding charge is a misdemeanor.
Speaker 1: You get out the same day.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: But the only way you can get hit for a
Speaker 3: joy riding charge you actually have to have the key.
Speaker 3: So if you actually have the key in the car,
Speaker 3: it's considered.
Speaker 1: The joy riding. So I was like, if I can
Speaker 1: just get for kees a car exactly secrets other people
Speaker 1: still tell you.
Speaker 3: Now the stuff back then you can't even do it today.
Speaker 3: Now you got a navigation, you got on all you
Speaker 3: got cars on your phone, you could track your vehicle.
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, so the so the crazy part.
Speaker 3: So what I ended up doing was I started going
Speaker 3: to the dealership and start peeling keys and pretty much
Speaker 3: what that means, like, you know, you're just going if
Speaker 3: you see a key on the table, you just grab that,
Speaker 3: bad boy, go to the bathroom, hit the click, see
Speaker 3: which one opens up, and if the car light up,
Speaker 3: jump in and.
Speaker 1: Pull out right at the dealer.
Speaker 3: At the dealership, because you understand, car dealerships is mad
Speaker 3: busy all the time.
Speaker 2: They're not even thinking about it.
Speaker 1: They see you in a car pull out, I think,
Speaker 1: do you think you test driving or something? Well, you
Speaker 1: might have just purchasedtomer.
Speaker 2: So after a.
Speaker 1: While they start seeing my face come through all the time,
Speaker 1: they said, well who So every time my face got
Speaker 1: burnt out. Then I had to get another car dealership
Speaker 1: to go to.
Speaker 3: But then after while it was only but so many
Speaker 3: car dealerships, and I had to find a whole new method.
Speaker 3: Then I start hitting the valet parking. That's what the
Speaker 3: business was because.
Speaker 2: He was putting the valet jacket on. No, okay, that
Speaker 2: was a great hold.
Speaker 1: That's a great idea. It actually ain't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really ain't because what happens is clearly like,
Speaker 3: first of all, it's not it's not easy to get
Speaker 3: up valet.
Speaker 1: Jacket that matches the car that you're doing. That's the one.
Speaker 1: They know each other and they all know, so they'd
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, who are you the cabinet right now.
Speaker 2: With your jacket? All right?
Speaker 3: So I took the I took the diplomat diplomatic approach.
Speaker 3: I said, you know, let me just negotiate with these days, yo,
Speaker 3: how much, like do you actually make? How much are
Speaker 3: they paying you? They was making like, you know, fifty
Speaker 3: dollars a week plus tips.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, even with tips, how much you
Speaker 3: actually make? They said, well, pulling off maybe two hundred.
Speaker 1: Dollars a week.
Speaker 3: I said, all right, cool, if I give you one
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a week, one thousand dollars a week guaranteed,
Speaker 3: you just give me the spare key of any car
Speaker 3: that got a spare in it.
Speaker 2: Wow, And you don't take it there you take it
Speaker 2: where they go away.
Speaker 1: Boom. If you can do that for me every time
Speaker 1: you get just give me.
Speaker 2: A call and all I.
Speaker 3: Need is the key and a piece of male out
Speaker 3: there with an address. Wow, that's all I needed, so boom,
Speaker 3: they would get that to me.
Speaker 1: I just wait, maybe a week two weeks later, pull
Speaker 1: up late night, carby park right.
Speaker 3: There in the front, jump in out and that was it,
Speaker 3: like it was a real business. But then don't forget.
Speaker 3: You still have to get the paperwork done for you
Speaker 3: gotta get vend numbers and all that. But so the beginning,
Speaker 3: you're just selling hot cars. You get caught, bros. Drive
Speaker 3: your own risk, all right, the car's only five hundred
Speaker 3: dollars though, like just these are squatters, right, But then
Speaker 3: once you build a bit of money, create them pawn shop.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm the what do you call it?
Speaker 2: Chop shot.
Speaker 3: So then I had a chop shot where I had
Speaker 3: some Mexicans over there that was super dope cars. Mexicans,
Speaker 3: you know, big up to the Mexicans. They would chop
Speaker 3: it up for me. Change the serious numbers. Then I
Speaker 3: had to get it registered.
Speaker 1: This where the finesse has to it has to come back.
Speaker 3: So I would go to DMV and I would just
Speaker 3: look for the most vulnerable, insecure, overweight check.
Speaker 2: I about to go to hell.
Speaker 3: So you know, but you know, you know, you just vancessar.
Speaker 3: You know, take out to eat set the dream. You know,
Speaker 3: you just dangled the carrot dough. You never beat, you
Speaker 3: never hit it.
Speaker 1: You just always make her believe that one day it's
Speaker 1: gonna go down.
Speaker 3: And she is just doing anything for you. So I
Speaker 3: was like, look, baby, you know right now I'm going
Speaker 3: through some things. You know, I got a few vehicles
Speaker 3: that I got, but you know, they ain't paid me
Speaker 3: for it just came off the truck. She was completely
Speaker 3: dreamed like Green didn't have no clue. I just need
Speaker 3: you to get these registered for you man. You know,
Speaker 3: every time I sell one, I just give you some
Speaker 3: money out of it. And that's all it took.
Speaker 1: And before you know what, every.
Speaker 3: Call we got shopped it, got it registered. Then now
Speaker 3: we're in business. By the time we started selling Atlanta,
Speaker 3: it wasn't not nobody that was coming through Atlanta wouldn't
Speaker 3: getting cast from us.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you, how if you ever got caught,
Speaker 2: how would you get caught? How would the police.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, like, I okay, and that was
Speaker 3: a mistake that I made, Okay, but normally I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I never really get caught because I always went through middleman,
Speaker 3: so I was just a supplier and I would give
Speaker 3: it to the purpose that would go out and sell
Speaker 3: it out. My only rule was don't sell squadners to
Speaker 3: dope boys because that's how you get fucked up. Like,
Speaker 3: don't whatever you do, don't sell us no drug dealers
Speaker 3: because the problem with them is they drive in any conditions.
Speaker 3: They moved, they dried and dirty, like, they give you
Speaker 3: all the reasons for them to start investigating. So after
Speaker 3: so many dope boys get caught, then now they're like, okay,
Speaker 3: well all these cars are kind of they can start
Speaker 3: following situations before you know it leads all back down
Speaker 3: to them and then they don't rat you out in time.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what ended up happening.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so dope boy got caught in the car
Speaker 2: and said I got it from the Prinson's of Munda.
Speaker 3: Well to see what saying me was the fact that
Speaker 3: I never really met the customer. So when we so
Speaker 3: when we went to trial, because I ended up getting
Speaker 3: to trial. Nobody recognized me, so my attorney was just
Speaker 3: super amazing. He was like, look, man, you know he's
Speaker 3: he's a customer like they are.
Speaker 1: I didn't even.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I didn't know what my car was even stolen.
Speaker 3: I was just driving. I thought I thought it was legit.
Speaker 3: Way over it happened again. That was once in a
Speaker 3: lifetime opportunity.
Speaker 2: Do you see, like, uh, let's get straight to it.
Speaker 1: Man. You always getting straight to.
Speaker 2: What's beautiful music that you've made. I'm trying to think,
Speaker 2: who the hell about you at Versus?
Speaker 3: I know they've been you know what, actually Swiss talking
Speaker 3: to my little brother about it. We talked to about it,
Speaker 3: and Boo kind of hinted it to me, but I
Speaker 3: was just never I don't know. I think I think
Speaker 3: the I love Versus to watch it, but I think
Speaker 3: some legends and they're right. I thought it was a
Speaker 3: mistake for them to get on it, because I think
Speaker 3: sometimes when you contribute to a culture this big, your music.
Speaker 1: Should never be compared.
Speaker 3: It should be more celebrated than, you know, competed to
Speaker 3: an extent. I know maybe in the beginning it partly
Speaker 3: wasn't meant to be competition, but it's now turned into
Speaker 3: a battle, and I don't want to put myself in
Speaker 3: a position where I'm kind of relinquishing someone else's legacy
Speaker 3: because I really don't believe there's too many people that
Speaker 3: can go against.
Speaker 2: Me, so basically, you're going against yourself. That was the
Speaker 2: most humblest I've heard. It was at the same time,
Speaker 2: but off top, which would be dope. A lot of
Speaker 2: people always compare Little Wayne's Drake, and they said if
Speaker 2: they would do it together.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't work because Bill Rain found Drake.
Speaker 2: That's like pain. I gave him all my secrets. I
Speaker 2: gave them all my resources I created. That's don't come
Speaker 2: against me.
Speaker 1: If anything, I'm a sick T paint on everybody else
Speaker 1: past him.
Speaker 2: Then you get to me, You and T paying double teams.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: Now that'll work me and T paining together against somebody
Speaker 3: else all day because he paint love that kind of smoke.
Speaker 1: I got goose bumps. You know what I'm saying, Double team.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that man, because that's too gosket
Speaker 2: agast lights again. No no, no, you ain't his dosk
Speaker 2: okay hold on because no should be r and B singers.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't be Chris Brown. This is the
Speaker 2: thing Chris Brown Usher that's.
Speaker 3: That honestly would be I would love to watch that myself.
Speaker 3: I would not, That's what I'm saying, Like I love
Speaker 3: to be entertained by. But it's also that fear right
Speaker 3: because what Usher built, Like sometimes what the scariest.
Speaker 1: Part he might come out with rod That's cool, he
Speaker 1: was on. But see this, this is the thing, right
Speaker 1: this generation don't appreciate music the way our generation did,
Speaker 1: so the way we value what Usher brought to the table.
Speaker 3: This generation may not see that. It may lean more
Speaker 3: towards Chris and vice versa. The eldest might not, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, appreciate what Chris brought to the you know,
Speaker 3: to this industry. You know what I'm saying, because even
Speaker 3: now when I look at Chris Brown, always believed that
Speaker 3: he could have been the only person that can come
Speaker 3: behind Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: Chris is that talented, Like he is fucking genius.
Speaker 3: I mean from an artist's downpoint, from a performance standpoint, imaging.
Speaker 1: Like he's a global superstar, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I think sometimes it's a matter of how we
Speaker 3: harness and how we you know, package our talent that
Speaker 3: we can claim and take it to that next level.
Speaker 3: It's almost like, okay, let's say if we introduce the
Speaker 3: versus concept to the pop community. I want to see that,
Speaker 3: they gonna turn it down.
Speaker 2: I want to see Chris, but they're not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: You want to do it?
Speaker 2: Listen? Listen is Backstreet noise?
Speaker 1: No, we would all be here, but that day will
Speaker 1: never come. You know why, because they see things differently.
Speaker 3: They preserve culture, they preserve legacy. We compete against it.
Speaker 3: Like blacks and whites are two different mentalities.
Speaker 1: We're combative, like we're African white regular no white period Africa.
Speaker 3: Let's let's get back to South calf Africa. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of the intro was just so amazing, so I couldn't
Speaker 3: cut you off.
Speaker 1: I couldn't cut you off. Let's be very very very
Speaker 1: very very very clear. South Africa is the real Africa.
Speaker 1: See this is what happens.
Speaker 3: Right, Any amazing part of Africa that's beautiful, that attracts tourism,
Speaker 3: they say it ain't really the real Africa. But if
Speaker 3: it's poor, poverished, and and and you know, full of
Speaker 3: diseases or plagues. Oh yeah, be careful us you want
Speaker 3: to be in that part of Africa. So they claim
Speaker 3: the poor for Africa to say, okay, that's Africa. But
Speaker 3: then if there's anything that's enticing or inviting about Africa,
Speaker 3: they say, well, that's not really the real Africa. And
Speaker 3: that's what we got to break because you know, South
Speaker 3: Africa's credit they had helped by the British to actually help.
Speaker 2: To develop right right, which was the.
Speaker 1: Smallest population period. But those are real Africans, like the
Speaker 1: white boys over there, African the actual Africans.
Speaker 2: That's why they call Afrikaans.
Speaker 1: Biggas. It's ghetto.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Some certain parts of Africa, of South Africa, the white
Speaker 3: folks are the ones in the ghettos. If you go
Speaker 3: to South Africa, the richest people in South Africa are
Speaker 3: the black ones. Netflix in the in the flat Brohannesburg
Speaker 3: like they're like everywhere you go, there's areas where there's
Speaker 3: poor people, but the poorest areas are the poor parts
Speaker 3: where the white folks are. Yeah, it's a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: it's a Netflix special on It's a Netflix special on that.
Speaker 3: I got to remember the name though, but if you
Speaker 3: if you, if you Google, I mean, if you serve
Speaker 3: South Africa on there, it'll pop up on.
Speaker 6: Watch my documentary Coming Home South Africa. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 6: And they have an amazing hip hop scene. And I
Speaker 6: went into Johannesburg and they got a spot called the
Speaker 6: what is it called the Cool oh Man Slaughterhouse and
Speaker 6: it's in there, it's in their language. But and it's
Speaker 6: like a crazy MC battle place is dope, dope see
Speaker 6: out there?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Sure what should I just want to go to if I.
Speaker 2: Go first, But hear me, I want to buy a
Speaker 2: fake credit card or something. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I want to see you got stereo top on it.
Speaker 1: I want to get scammed like.
Speaker 2: In your life.
Speaker 1: Man, I want to get scared.
Speaker 2: But what is the first It never been to Africa?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: If they want to go for party purposes, to party purposes,
Speaker 2: like what were you? Compare it to what place? All right?
Speaker 3: So I would say Nigeria is compared to New York
Speaker 3: City if I had to compare.
Speaker 2: Something, that's definitely scammers.
Speaker 1: The scammers are everywhere. I'm being.
Speaker 2: That Nigeria princes.
Speaker 1: Probably a more holy one they got the females.
Speaker 2: Goddamn Nigerian prince got something.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 3: This could be debatable, but the Nigerians are the most
Speaker 3: smartest people on the planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 3: I promise you there's nobody more smarter than the Nigerian. Now,
Speaker 3: of course there's there's a few bad apples that came out,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, they extremely smart.
Speaker 3: They put they just put their intelligence all in the
Speaker 3: wrong place. They're geared, dess or something more, you know,
Speaker 3: positive productive because the ones that did there's more. There's
Speaker 3: more billionaires being made in Nigeria than anywhere in the
Speaker 3: world on the annual basis.
Speaker 2: Took that email. Listen to the credit of them though.
Speaker 1: You only get caught if you get greedy. They don't
Speaker 1: ask you to do anything, They just present it to
Speaker 1: you and then your greed get caught in that way
Speaker 1: because I'm giving fifty they're not, They're just giving you
Speaker 1: a positions.
Speaker 2: Greedy took it was.
Speaker 1: What's crazier is that after you get got, there's nobody
Speaker 1: else to blame but yourself, because you know better. Honest,
Speaker 1: anything that's too good to be true, you know, it's
Speaker 1: always too good to be true.
Speaker 2: What's the nigga that they was hunt him down? They
Speaker 2: made you puppy Cony right, Coney Coney, I donated that
Speaker 2: was that was the Africans that was doing that. Somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still don't got my shirt, Like is he
Speaker 1: comparing that Africa?
Speaker 2: It was Cony. He was doing someth bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it wasn't that he was like, donate to
Speaker 1: him and we're going to get I like.
Speaker 2: Word, it's like dude in San Francisco doing that. I
Speaker 2: want it was my T shirt shirt. And that's when
Speaker 2: I started to complain, that is ting right about this shirt.
Speaker 2: It's too funny. So you say Nigeria is the first, Well.
Speaker 3: That mean it depends on what you're going there for.
Speaker 3: Like every place has his destination and has especialty for
Speaker 3: what you want to do.
Speaker 1: A huge continent, it's no North Africa.
Speaker 3: How big Africa is, right? You see how big United
Speaker 3: States is. You could take five United States and fit
Speaker 3: it inside it. Five of US, I mean all fifty two,
Speaker 3: three faux states whatever, you can take them all, put
Speaker 3: him inside Africa five times.
Speaker 1: That's how big the continent is. That's how big it is.
Speaker 1: So it's a matter of like it's any and everything
Speaker 1: you want to do.
Speaker 3: Like you got East Africa, you got South Africa, you
Speaker 3: got West Africa, North Africa. Everywhere you go, there's destination
Speaker 3: for what it is you want. So it depends on
Speaker 3: what you're going there for.
Speaker 2: You know, no I said anybody got questions for Akon.
Speaker 1: It was like Yo, man in the US mad at
Speaker 1: him for messing with China. Man, listen honestly.
Speaker 3: First, to be honest, bro Me, I would want the
Speaker 3: US to take more initiative in Africa.
Speaker 1: They have done it this year though.
Speaker 3: Really Yeah, they flew in a lot of African presidents,
Speaker 3: created this huge you knows, the initiative in DC, you know,
Speaker 3: but it was a great conversation.
Speaker 1: It was a great start.
Speaker 3: But I just think they're a little bit ten twelve
Speaker 3: steps behind the Chinese. The area where the Chinese got
Speaker 3: smart was they realized, okay, are they're already done created
Speaker 3: enough manufacturing plans to supply the whole world?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: Yes, Americas are their biggest suppliers, America then Europe. This
Speaker 3: is why the US is in debt to the Chinese.
Speaker 3: Already they supplied the US was so much. But after
Speaker 3: a while you can only supply for so much because
Speaker 3: that's only a certain amount of population. They're the reason
Speaker 3: why Chinese is so powerful because they got over a
Speaker 3: billion people over there within China in itself. But for
Speaker 3: the most part, they start a value in Africa though
Speaker 3: they said, okay, cool, Africa got close to two billion people.
Speaker 1: Right, it's underdeveloped.
Speaker 3: So human resource to them is more important than actual
Speaker 3: resources itself because they've seen what have done for them themselves.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: So now I imagine if you combine two billion people
Speaker 1: of China in partnership with two billion people in Africa,
Speaker 1: and then you have all the resources and all the
Speaker 1: factories for distribution to the globe.
Speaker 2: Is that why the currency is the currency is China.
Speaker 6: The bricks I'm talking about bricks, which is China, China, Russia, Brazil.
Speaker 1: They trying to create their Oh well, I mean break
Speaker 1: they call that school ring.
Speaker 2: I either heard that ringusin is eighty eight, but you
Speaker 2: hear that, Yeah, it's bridge.
Speaker 1: They haven't done it yet. They're trying to. They're trying
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: It's a conversation that's being had. Of course it's gonna
Speaker 3: and Saudi Arabia is kind of like top of the
Speaker 3: US dollar if that happens. So I don't think it's
Speaker 3: gonna be something that's gonna be easy to accomplish because
Speaker 3: it's just too many interesting at play. But if it
Speaker 3: does happen, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: US is gonna have a huge problem.
Speaker 6: Right, And China's been involved in Latin America too. They're
Speaker 6: doing the same thing all that everywhere. You know, understanding,
Speaker 6: they have been quiet.
Speaker 1: Right, you can go to any hood anywhere in the
Speaker 1: world and you're gonna find them. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 3: And then you can go to any place in the
Speaker 3: world and they will be a China town. Always they've been.
Speaker 3: They've always been non controversial.
Speaker 2: Right, you've been to China.
Speaker 3: I love China, you really, I love it out there.
Speaker 3: I just can't say that too long ago. Why I
Speaker 3: need the food, the food, it's just it's not my
Speaker 3: my type. The food small, it's just the portions are
Speaker 3: pretty small. But it's it's just too healthy. Really, it's
Speaker 3: too healthy.
Speaker 1: You need some glue, I need yeah, iy, fat, honey, cholesterol,
Speaker 1: I need all that, like I can't American. It's too healthy, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's too healthy.
Speaker 2: One of the things that Michael Blacksman, who is my friend,
Speaker 2: but he turns me off every time I see him
Speaker 2: eat it. The way he eats foodful is hard. Have
Speaker 2: you ever seen him eat fool? Did he put on
Speaker 2: the tracks? He's like, I'm like, how can you tell
Speaker 2: me this is good? And you're going to.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one who followed Michael Blacksmith.
Speaker 2: Listen, I mean, I swear, and he'd be like after
Speaker 2: he he puts pause, pulls his mouth with his hand
Speaker 2: away from his mouth. He acts like he's enjoying it,
Speaker 2: but as he's.
Speaker 1: Chewing it, he puts on the pit bull face, like
Speaker 1: a pit bull is a tackle the.
Speaker 2: Tea and I like it. So, but are you a
Speaker 2: fan of fool fool me?
Speaker 1: I'm not really a fan of food food specifically, I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like food food as much, but I like
Speaker 1: everything else.
Speaker 2: Food.
Speaker 1: Food is the only thing I don't like as much.
Speaker 1: Food is like my fungal right, it's a plantain, that's
Speaker 1: the thing you Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, myself, I like, but this is the okra sauce
Speaker 3: that comes from and I don't like the texture of okra.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, but because it got food
Speaker 3: and some other sauce like the peanut butter sauce. It
Speaker 3: comes with different sauces. But the reason why they call
Speaker 3: it food food is because of the okrat, the bread bread.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a combination.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but it's it's a it's a team effort,
Speaker 3: like one don't work without the other, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, what's your favorite African dish?
Speaker 1: It's jelly rice for sure? What je rice? J Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sounds I don't know how it sounds.
Speaker 1: Sounds delicious, is it?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 3: Rice is originally from Senegal with Stafford that'shere, I'm from.
Speaker 1: Ghana's. Ghana has adapted it very well.
Speaker 3: Nigeria is always in competition with Ghana on who makes
Speaker 3: the best jelly of rice. And then you have Liberia
Speaker 3: also that makes it really really good, right. But it's
Speaker 3: it's an old traditional uh recipe that's made with rice
Speaker 3: and tomato paste. So the tomato paste is what makes
Speaker 3: it red. But in Senegal you have two types of jelloff.
Speaker 3: You have the red jelloff and then you have the
Speaker 3: white jellaf. The white jellaf is made with like onions
Speaker 3: and you know, more broth, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the taste of it is just it's it's like
Speaker 3: an African version of fried rice to an extent, that's
Speaker 3: probably the best way to kind of explain it. Because
Speaker 3: after the rice is done, they let the bottom of
Speaker 3: the rice burn, so it's like you get that that
Speaker 3: that burned smoky and then that smoke goes through the
Speaker 3: rice and you could taste that smokiness in it.
Speaker 1: It's it's delicious.
Speaker 3: The bird part is this, This is why I've been
Speaker 3: a deal lot. When I eat that boy, it reminds
Speaker 3: me of Jeff, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So so we all know that music, we all know
Speaker 2: the original man comes from Africa, right right. I remember,
Speaker 2: you know reggae music coming making its mark, you know.
Speaker 2: Then you know, you know Spanish music, all that song
Speaker 2: and so forth. But it just kind of like seemed
Speaker 2: like it's three sixty and now it's like Afro Beasts
Speaker 2: is like so.
Speaker 1: Fucking popular, right, It's huge.
Speaker 2: I never saw this coming, like I never saw obviously,
Speaker 2: you know that music originates in Africa, so for it
Speaker 2: to come back, it's something that's very very beautiful, but
Speaker 2: I obviously didn't see this. Is this something that you've
Speaker 2: been saw that you knew that.
Speaker 3: Bro since two thousand and seven. Wow, I was in
Speaker 3: labels trying to get this going. Like you, man, you'd
Speaker 3: be surprised how good it makes somebody feel when you've
Speaker 3: been saying you want to say, like I told you
Speaker 3: so so loud.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But it's I kind of Latin music kind of came
Speaker 3: through the same tunnel because with reggae thong, it was
Speaker 3: the same thing. Nobody expected it to be this big
Speaker 3: and dominate, like you know what I'm saying on everything, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's I think it's
Speaker 3: the same thing. And I think now people are getting
Speaker 3: more you know, open to different sounds and different music
Speaker 3: now actually start you know, you can now see melodies
Speaker 3: change into something that sounds familiar to you that back
Speaker 3: then was foreign, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 3: you listen to a lot of the afrobat music today,
Speaker 3: you'd be like, wow, it actually makes sense because when
Speaker 3: you go from reggae music to reggae thong and now
Speaker 3: afrobeat within all in the span of ten fifteen years
Speaker 3: in America's like it's it's all the same, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It was just a matter of who
Speaker 3: was the gatekeepers that would allow that music to come in,
Speaker 3: And that was the challenging part, trying to get them
Speaker 3: to understand that, Yo, this is bigger than you think
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like internationally this is huge already.
Speaker 3: If it breaks in America, this could be the biggest
Speaker 3: turnover for y'all from a financial standpoint that you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: But it's just a matter of just now Digital actually
Speaker 3: allowed that because of YouTube.
Speaker 6: You think they were trying to keep people from working
Speaker 6: internationally that closely because it might change the way that
Speaker 6: business has done domestically.
Speaker 3: Actually, I wouldn't go that far, but I would say
Speaker 3: that they didn't understand the music well enough to know
Speaker 3: how to move it around. And I think a lot
Speaker 3: of the times when you look at executives, they kind
Speaker 3: of move on either excitement because they know what they got,
Speaker 3: or on fear because they don't know what to do
Speaker 3: with it, you know what I mean. Instead of just
Speaker 3: putting it out and let it find his own audience,
Speaker 3: they want to be the A and R to decide
Speaker 3: what goes out and what's.
Speaker 1: Going to be a hit and what's not.
Speaker 2: And I think that's a mistake, is right, because they
Speaker 2: only you know, they make.
Speaker 3: The decision called to what they see, and most of
Speaker 3: them never even left America, so they wouldn't even know
Speaker 3: where to start.
Speaker 2: I remember, like I was saying this to da veto
Speaker 2: a friend of mine who's Fump Senegal. He lives in Paris,
Speaker 2: and he kept he kept telling me about afrobeasts, but
Speaker 2: he didn't have he didn't have. It wasn't a word
Speaker 2: at the time. We kept saying, listen, man, we have
Speaker 2: African ricked doone. And I was like, because I'm assuming,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming reggae don't can only be Spanish. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough to understand that this is a
Speaker 2: global thing. And then he was he was playing me
Speaker 2: this and I was just like wow. And then when
Speaker 2: afrobeas blew up, like I said, my boy at and
Speaker 2: he's from Sitaguar, he just lives in Paris.
Speaker 1: He called me every day I told you, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: Right, and he was right. We listen to Acon. Our
Speaker 2: show was about giving people their flowers while they're alive.
Speaker 2: We want to give you a flowers face to face.
Speaker 2: You an icon. You're a pioneer. You single handed and
Speaker 2: changed the face of how music is played.
Speaker 1: You you did it.
Speaker 2: Are you like the first African artists or first African?
Speaker 2: Nos African because you wasn't born said he was born
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis, but obviously you still considered well.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the thing, like, I don't think
Speaker 3: where you're born decides who you are, right because in
Speaker 3: our case, my mom and father was born raised, full
Speaker 3: blooded Senegalese, but Pops decided to make sure we was
Speaker 3: born here just to ship us back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a transactional reason. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that's why when I identify with Africa, it's just
Speaker 3: a little bit different because.
Speaker 1: That's where my childhood began.
Speaker 3: And then when I came to the States, I was
Speaker 3: here just more to go to school because every summer
Speaker 3: we would go back home.
Speaker 1: Until I graduated high school. I decided to stay.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you the whole thing with New York
Speaker 2: Puerto Ricans, right, and then Puerto Ricans from the islands
Speaker 2: right right, and for years, Puerto Weecans from the Island
Speaker 2: just thought they was better than us. I'm sorry, that's
Speaker 2: how we felt about y'all. Like we felt like they
Speaker 2: felt like they were like the real Puerto Ricans, and like,
Speaker 2: I mean, actually, at certain.
Speaker 3: Times, technically, technically they are the real Puerto Ricans because
Speaker 3: y'all are more Americanized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they we watched us on TV. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: just say technically a little bit different. You know, I
Speaker 2: grew up with chickens in our backyard. Why are you
Speaker 2: going at your people?
Speaker 7: Bro?
Speaker 3: They just a little the Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico
Speaker 3: a little bit closer to the culture. And I think
Speaker 3: that's what they're trying to say. They're not saying that
Speaker 3: you ain't Puerto Rican. They're saying, well, we're actually here.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a place in Porto Rico called Louisa.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the where the slaves got dropped off. Right,
Speaker 2: you are light skinned out there compared to them.
Speaker 3: But all of those niggas came from Senegalgue. I'm not
Speaker 3: even joking.
Speaker 2: That last spot they.
Speaker 1: Dropped off in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3: They dropped off in Haiti, and the Haiti became Dominican
Speaker 3: Republic because of the Spaniards came and mixed up with Haitians. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the all Portuguese, mister Lee, So Portuguese, y'all niggas is.
Speaker 1: More African than we are.
Speaker 2: Why do you think y'all moved away? Y'all move goddamn?
Speaker 4: Do you think?
Speaker 1: Seriously think about it, Think about how we like, how
Speaker 1: we communicate with Puerto Ricans, Couerto Rican We call each
Speaker 1: other's niggas, y'all niggas. Ain't y'all far from niggas? Perto
Speaker 1: Ricans say the ship and we're like you think about it,
Speaker 1: like like we look at each other as one. You
Speaker 1: find what I'm saying, like, so we like our history
Speaker 1: is intertwined. It's not even a it's not even a question.
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: Also was something beautiful I've seen on the internet the
Speaker 2: other day. They said something that could and you said
Speaker 2: this on our show years ago. It says something that
Speaker 2: was going to help boost Africa's economy is is if
Speaker 2: African Americans going over back and start going back. And
Speaker 2: I see somebody like I think this was like a
Speaker 2: preacher or something like he was just and I was like,
Speaker 2: damn a concept. That shit like seven years ago on
Speaker 2: our show. You you think that's it that's still choose
Speaker 2: you this day?
Speaker 3: It's I think Africa will start to become it's to
Speaker 3: its fullest potential when y'all all go back home, right
Speaker 3: like and even y'all, what's interesting is that everything that
Speaker 3: y'all fighting for over here, you actually you get on
Speaker 3: a silver platter over there. Like it's like you, It's
Speaker 3: like you guys want to suffer, Like y'all motherfuckers just
Speaker 3: want to just be.
Speaker 2: Because you don't have to be.
Speaker 3: It's like it's it's like, believe me, they wouldn't want
Speaker 3: nothing better than to shift all y'all niggas back to Africa,
Speaker 3: but they're not even knowing this for your best.
Speaker 1: Interest, y'all would actually be better off.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what I'm saying, No more crying, no
Speaker 3: more like marching, no more getting killed by cops, no
Speaker 3: more crying racism because y'all are the majority over there.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Supposed to be that originally
Speaker 6: wasn't a return. A lot of the free slaves helped
Speaker 6: begin help create Liberia.
Speaker 1: I can't give you too much story.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 3: That's all the flags if you notice, every flag got
Speaker 3: a meaning, right, but it's always got the meaning that's
Speaker 3: attached to whoever colonized them.
Speaker 1: But history nowadays, I don't know what to believe in anymore.
Speaker 1: It's all convoluted.
Speaker 3: Everybody has a different story of what took place around
Speaker 3: that time, so the accuracy is very slim. But when
Speaker 3: you stop and you think about just basic common sense,
Speaker 3: some of the things that happen can easily be like
Speaker 3: returned and redone like. But it's on in the mind state,
Speaker 3: you know, once you got your mindset on something, that's
Speaker 3: what it is. It's like Norri, he just want to
Speaker 3: go to Africa to get fucking like. He gotta get
Speaker 3: scammed otherwise Costomer, that's the experience.
Speaker 1: He got to go through that first, and they say,
Speaker 1: all right, cool now, who don't have to talk about
Speaker 1: to give you a history on how I can get
Speaker 1: it back?
Speaker 2: So I gotta scam him to educate. You don't want
Speaker 2: to go see a start resort. This is Africa. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to do that. That's not too nice, it's
Speaker 2: too clean. Take me.
Speaker 1: I want to hunt straw.
Speaker 2: You know, you know that's real man, because like a
Speaker 2: lot of us, I remember me being scared. I send
Speaker 2: in my twenty what is that twenty three and all
Speaker 2: that where you where you get your thing twenty three
Speaker 2: and me, Yeah, for the DNA, Yeah, the DNA. And
Speaker 2: I remember my wife doing it and I'm being like, like,
Speaker 2: you don't want to know where you're really from?
Speaker 1: And I was like not really.
Speaker 2: Actually, I actually think I swabbed or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: I just never gave it to I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man. I was just like, man, I don't
Speaker 2: know what I did with it, but I'm I don't
Speaker 2: do it this time. You know where I'm at because
Speaker 2: obviously when you when you're Puerto Rican, which I'm half
Speaker 2: put a week and half black, part of you goes
Speaker 2: to Spade, But that's not where it ends. That's where like,
Speaker 2: that's just one little small it's Puerto Rican because we
Speaker 2: don't come from Portibo, don't come from port Cuba.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most Caribbean, Puerto Rican. Your DNA is gonna trace
Speaker 3: back to Portugal.
Speaker 1: Cuban port because ain't like the same birds, different president.
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for whatever they.
Speaker 4: For the Cuban, the Cubans, Yeah, the black coming back Africa,
Speaker 4: Cuban Cuban.
Speaker 3: Cubans are the most African when it comes to the
Speaker 3: Latin side of the world.
Speaker 1: In Africa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, niggas in the Latin country without as Jesus the
Speaker 2: Latin just just making.
Speaker 1: That my friend hates right there, sound.
Speaker 2: Because all right you want to do ye oh man,
Speaker 2: but he's not drinking. So Sunday drinking from drinking from
Speaker 2: Sunday shot from me, my Haitian brother, that's what you're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 8: Drink.
Speaker 6: I'm we go like today we were like, man, we're healthy,
Speaker 6: were healthy hoods right now, water champs today.
Speaker 2: I don't think you know what we love this last time.
Speaker 6: We didn't do this last time with you, right, all right,
Speaker 6: So we're gonna give you two choices. You pick one.
Speaker 6: We're good if you say both or neither. We drinking,
Speaker 6: got it, all right? So the first one is Chris
Speaker 6: Brown or Usher you get my drink?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Both okay? So see he gonna say this free. No, no,
Speaker 1: that that one. Listen, They both to me are equal
Speaker 1: when it comes to generations, right in the generation.
Speaker 3: No, I never drink, never drink, but I did have.
Speaker 3: I did sip it by accident one time and thought
Speaker 3: it was water. Bro my chest got sold. It was
Speaker 3: like what brook? It was a nasty ship I ever
Speaker 3: tasted and know the taste.
Speaker 1: Was lingering in my mouthful. A week I was like,
Speaker 1: how did y'all drink? Even if I thought about drinking
Speaker 1: after that, I would never drink rushing, But I was
Speaker 1: in Dubai. Dubai That's why I thought it was wide
Speaker 1: doesn't drink, drink. But unfortunately the person no, no. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying as a country, they don't. They don't drink.
Speaker 1: The people there like that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: You've been to the was you could drinking. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: don't leaves. Yeah, trust me, they drink.
Speaker 1: Off of the drinkers and they do anything else to
Speaker 1: trugt me.
Speaker 2: Gotta be they got underground shoes, gotta be underground.
Speaker 1: So you drank, because what did you drink?
Speaker 6: Drink?
Speaker 2: Anotherhing bigger, bigger than my boy guy. We just came home.
Speaker 2: He had to hear a life sentence in for cocaine
Speaker 2: and marijuana, and the life sentence he did four years
Speaker 2: and he got his ask about of.
Speaker 1: There, you gotta be careful when we go to the
Speaker 1: other con. They don't play, they don't play with that
Speaker 1: learned the coach by.
Speaker 2: I play songs of Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: That's a good one too, But I was I'll probably
Speaker 1: go with Jeremiah Jeremiah, okay, Tupac or d m X Wow,
Speaker 1: another good one. I probably go with Pop. I met
Speaker 1: him one time, met Pox this one time. I never
Speaker 1: met that one time? What was that a meaning?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, yo, this is my man, pot
Speaker 1: yo Pop.
Speaker 7: That kind.
Speaker 1: Cool, we got to get in cool and it never
Speaker 1: seen him again. His knew the new series on FX,
Speaker 1: The Dear Mama. I saw it the first episode. It's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's real good, real good. Wow, it's on FXX. I
Speaker 1: know you worked one of them. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he worked with both, but Michael Jackson or Prince. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's easy. Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: You worked with m J.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to work with Prince though,
Speaker 3: but it was on the schedule to work with him
Speaker 3: before he passed.
Speaker 1: Was on the schedule. It was, yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 1: get in with him before.
Speaker 2: In the same room with Prince.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you met Actually Jimmy Ivan was want to introduce
Speaker 1: me to him, have his ass out.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, you know this different versions really wants to
Speaker 6: know because he has everybody.
Speaker 2: Different versions. Because I wanted to I wanted to know myself,
Speaker 2: say you wanted those pants.
Speaker 3: He was an interesting character though, because even when I
Speaker 3: met him through Jimmy, I would ask him a question
Speaker 3: and then the assistant or the one that was standing
Speaker 3: next to him would be the one to tell him,
Speaker 3: so it was one of those, and then he would
Speaker 3: whisper in her ear and then she would tell me
Speaker 3: what he said it was.
Speaker 1: It was, that's awkward, it was interesting, that's interesting. I
Speaker 1: like this one.
Speaker 2: You got eminem or Boston rhymes and what way?
Speaker 1: Though, it's up to you. No, hold on. It's a
Speaker 1: difference because if it's versus in versus, oh, in versus,
Speaker 1: I mean just I just made in versus yeah versus.
Speaker 2: That depends too, though, just just makes shinny take a shot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it depends. It depends.
Speaker 3: It's no because these are two different lanes, like not even. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's not even. It's like you can't even compare those.
Speaker 3: I gotta go with both because you can't really compare.
Speaker 6: That's fair taking a shot. You took a shot, Sonny.
Speaker 6: You can't just drink out of your cup. You gotta
Speaker 6: take a shot no because of what.
Speaker 1: Okay, like this no, no, you make no sense?
Speaker 2: And I did the next one after that, this.
Speaker 6: One, yeah, justin Timberlake skip one. Oh yeah, Snooper jay
Speaker 6: Z Snooper jay Z in the versus anyway, whatever the
Speaker 6: criteria in your mind is the criteria in mind, I
Speaker 6: will probably say.
Speaker 1: That's that's also two different types, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like two icons? Thanks Lee?
Speaker 2: This this this might be.
Speaker 1: Debatable, but I'll probably go with Snoop. Okay, And and
Speaker 1: y'all worked early on in your career and your career
Speaker 1: too with Snoop, right yeah? And then I like, as
Speaker 1: I travel, I see.
Speaker 3: The personality and the effect that Snoop has on people
Speaker 3: globally and through his music.
Speaker 2: So Snooper's hands down the most famous rat that you
Speaker 2: know what I'm there's not one person on earth that
Speaker 2: I don't think I.
Speaker 1: Don't know who Snoop thats recognized? Right, absolutely, kid you
Speaker 1: not justin Timberlake or justin Bieber. I probably go with Biber, Okay,
Speaker 1: how about.
Speaker 2: Him versus still go with Biber? Still going with Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: People got records, bro, People records are on a different
Speaker 1: level and he spoke, we you too, now my mom?
Speaker 1: For fact, what else does he do? He styles p
Speaker 1: or ross. I gotta go both on that one, Okay, Sonny?
Speaker 1: Yeah can they both represent two different things too? But
Speaker 1: style is like my brother. I couldn't go against him
Speaker 1: if I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna let you Finn take this one.
Speaker 1: These last two, I mean the next two French or
Speaker 1: fifty French or fifty that would be a good one.
Speaker 1: I would have known what, dude, But yeah, fifty will
Speaker 1: get it. Oh and your mind saying versus? Is you
Speaker 1: get my mind? I'm saying versus? Okay, atl or Miami
Speaker 1: at L of Miami, definitely a t L. Still live
Speaker 1: in atl Huh, still live in atl. I still got
Speaker 1: a gas station, same house.
Speaker 2: They got to know who got a gas station? That's
Speaker 2: how you flow.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got a gas station.
Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta patack. I gotta have
Speaker 2: a gas station. Shut everyone down, Everyone shut up? Like word,
Speaker 2: he just said, you got a gas Okay. Naughty by
Speaker 2: nature or laws are underground.
Speaker 3: That's a jersey. That one was a good one too,
Speaker 3: both legends, Yeah they are. But I think Naughty went
Speaker 3: a little bit further.
Speaker 2: Jada kiss or Nas.
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, that one is interesting. That's a tough one too.
Speaker 3: Why I say that is because Jade is probably the
Speaker 3: most underrated. I don't think he ever got the credit
Speaker 3: that he needed to get.
Speaker 1: He getting it now. I believe you think you get
Speaker 1: it now. I think he's getting it now because Nas,
Speaker 1: it took time.
Speaker 3: For people to give him that right, not as well,
Speaker 3: it took some time. Yeah, And I think Jada he
Speaker 3: never got it, right, you think he got it after
Speaker 3: versus Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think he's getting it. I think he's still in the
Speaker 1: process of getting it.
Speaker 2: That's what I think.
Speaker 1: I think he's in the process.
Speaker 3: I will say Jada, just to help him get that process,
Speaker 3: because I think Nas is already given.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's fair enough. Coming to America call Hall ofm Knights. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know both of them. I would definitely go with
Speaker 2: coming to America Lady Gaga or Katy Perry.
Speaker 1: Definitely Lady Goga.
Speaker 2: With Lady Gaga, Gwen Stephani. But all right, these are
Speaker 2: the guys who make it up, the Colombians and the Dominicans.
Speaker 2: Red Man or Method Man both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are twins right there. You can't separate them too,
Speaker 3: and you can't separate them too.
Speaker 2: Big pun or big al.
Speaker 1: I go a pun.
Speaker 2: Amy Winehouse or Whitney Houston. Oh rest a piece of both. Yeah, she.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one too, but I go with Whitney.
Speaker 2: You gotta see a movie on Netflix.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen you.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, neither I heard his good
Speaker 2: Yea'm gonna take it.
Speaker 1: Look at it now?
Speaker 2: T Pain or floor Rider, t Pain, Wayne or Drake.
Speaker 1: I would want to say Wayne.
Speaker 3: Because he discovered him and recognize the talent that Drake got.
Speaker 3: But in this case, I would choose Drake because Drake,
Speaker 3: to me, it's more versati how and he he. I
Speaker 3: think he maximized the opportunity better than anybody in the business.
Speaker 1: That's fair, USA or Africa. Africa hesitates for that, not
Speaker 1: even question.
Speaker 2: Your old hairline or your new hairline.
Speaker 1: The new hairlines look good.
Speaker 2: A lie, I'm looking at me, get this, start me
Speaker 2: say something somebody to pumped up bitch of you. But
Speaker 2: because in person, it shod looks good. You look you
Speaker 2: look Dominican, you look like.
Speaker 1: It looked good. They actually I started that campaign.
Speaker 2: He started it. I did that on purpose because you said,
Speaker 2: you went to Turkey, and Nigga said, Nigga, don't.
Speaker 1: Go to Turkey, right. So then so then I have
Speaker 1: to look where I can kind of play with it.
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: I was just interested because, Bro, I ain't laughed at
Speaker 1: I ain't laughed that much.
Speaker 2: It's so long. This ship was so funny. Do you
Speaker 2: want to do?
Speaker 1: I was literally I was literally on the plane just
Speaker 1: creating just I was like, oh, this is gonna look real.
Speaker 1: What you think, baby? We just push it out there. Boy, Yo,
Speaker 1: the memes that came means when I tell you that
Speaker 1: was the funnies sh I heard?
Speaker 2: Man, I love that ship? Did you start it on Twitter?
Speaker 1: Would you on Twitter?
Speaker 2: Negative place on the planet? You want to be in
Speaker 2: place on the baby place? Wanted to be negative. But
Speaker 2: you can go on Twitter and be like peace, good
Speaker 2: morning everybody. Somebody gonna say, shut the fuck youposed a
Speaker 2: baby picture. They're like that baby ugly?
Speaker 1: Like what you could do anything?
Speaker 2: Twitter is the horrible place, bro, But it'll also tell
Speaker 2: you some foul ship. Okay, where we're at the burner?
Speaker 1: Boy, Oh that's good. Oh I probably go with David though,
Speaker 1: David Dough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just had them on pick up to Dabba.
Speaker 1: Door oh Davy. Yeah that kid, right, there's a beast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the beast. He's another And I think that deserves
Speaker 1: more flowers than he's received.
Speaker 2: We gave him flowers.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Uh n w A or Wu Tang Klan, which I.
Speaker 1: Don't think is a good match up.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: I do think it's it's just generationals.
Speaker 3: It's definitely a generational match. But I want to say both,
Speaker 3: and let me tell you why. First of all, n
Speaker 3: w A created gangster rap. Regardless what anybody tell you,
Speaker 3: school d did, but n w A, regardless of what anybody.
Speaker 1: On there's a difference. Schoolie was just a gangster period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he would made against the music though he
Speaker 2: did happen.
Speaker 6: And I see it was around but around the same
Speaker 6: time in w A and maybe before, to be honest
Speaker 6: with you, Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: You're right, it could be debatable.
Speaker 2: But n w A made it popular, the most popular.
Speaker 2: That's what you gotta get credit to, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Because I think sometimes we kind of make the mistake
Speaker 3: of the person that invented it versus the person that
Speaker 3: actually made it famous.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So there's two parts the person that invented it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to give him the flowers because he
Speaker 3: and he actually created the this is what got us.
Speaker 2: Inspired to do it.
Speaker 1: But the person that made it famous, it is really
Speaker 1: the person you give the credit to. And that could
Speaker 1: be debatable as well.
Speaker 2: It's like everybody.
Speaker 1: But I also believe that the person that made it
Speaker 1: famous should also always go back and take care of
Speaker 1: the person that invented it. That's what makes it even.
Speaker 1: But when you ignore the person that made it even.
Speaker 3: Or you you know, look at him on a certain
Speaker 3: way and you know, kind of decrease its value, then
Speaker 3: I think that's fucked up.
Speaker 6: All right, There's there's one more debatable thing. Who called
Speaker 6: it gangster act? Because a lot of people debate.
Speaker 4: But I was.
Speaker 6: Next.
Speaker 1: You ain't all music, but you saw nigga.
Speaker 2: Like n w A them niggas start they show off
Speaker 2: with easy Goddamn with.
Speaker 1: A twenty two popular in the side of the areada.
Speaker 2: I was scared to dath How was I was terrified?
Speaker 3: Listen to you never wanted to go to Compton, Right,
Speaker 3: and then now let's talk about Wu Tang Clan.
Speaker 2: Wu Tang Clan.
Speaker 1: They took New York culture and made it global facts
Speaker 1: even more. Staten islandro to the point where you go
Speaker 1: to Japan, is you Wu Tang is like a religion.
Speaker 1: It's a fact.
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying now, Nwa.
Speaker 1: Ain't going that far. They were more domestic, right, So
Speaker 1: that's why I said, you got to give them both.
Speaker 1: You gotta choose both on that one.
Speaker 2: I love how you broke that down, mad hip hop.
Speaker 2: That was a mad I break that.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 6: Look at those recent shows. Wu Tang's been posting in
Speaker 6: Argentina and Colombia Like.
Speaker 2: I'm Wu tangans in Paris right now?
Speaker 1: Oh dope, whutang made New York famous?
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: That's debatable too.
Speaker 2: That's debatable too. Jackson five or new audition, Oh.
Speaker 1: Jackson five, Mike's voice, Boy, ain't nobody can touch that
Speaker 1: at that age. And it's before too. It's like the
Speaker 1: audition would say Jackson five.
Speaker 2: They would even say if they don't, then I don't
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna say on this one. DJ College
Speaker 2: or DJ Drama. Oh that's a good one too, big
Speaker 2: lightskin beef right there.
Speaker 1: I don't know get in the mix of that lights ginness.
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: They both abandons. Yes, I think I'm gonna choose both,
Speaker 3: just for the polic.
Speaker 2: Okay, both my niggas or push your teeth.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a real good one. That's
Speaker 1: a good one. Mm hmmm. I think I'm it's a
Speaker 1: hard lean, but I think I'm gonna go with fab
Speaker 1: on this one. Okay, wow, Okay, Juice or New Jersey Drive.
Speaker 3: Juice or New Jersey Drive both good ones too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but Juice is just different.
Speaker 1: That's that's yea. They gotta go with Juice on that one.
Speaker 2: And it's just something I want to see in versus
Speaker 2: Christina Aguileva versus Btney Spears. Who you've got, Oh, I
Speaker 2: want to see you.
Speaker 1: I got Brittany. I think Brittany. I think Brittany, I
Speaker 1: promise you.
Speaker 3: I think Brittany gonna take it because Brittany got the
Speaker 3: attitude for the audience, you know, versus Actually.
Speaker 2: You know why this is great and it's debatable. I
Speaker 2: think Brittany has probably it's just a little bit more records,
Speaker 2: But I think Christine.
Speaker 1: Is a vocalist, better vocalist. Live what I'm saying. That's why,
Speaker 1: let's be very clear. Okay, yes, yes, please the versus audience.
Speaker 1: It's niggas. Let's not fool ourselves.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna do this in malible.
Speaker 1: So trust me, bro, you can do this in the
Speaker 1: White House. The people that will be streaming is a
Speaker 1: streaming platform, ain't They can do it right here.
Speaker 6: And here.
Speaker 3: Between Christina and Learra and Britney Spears. You gotta ask
Speaker 3: yourself who gonna lean more to the black audience.
Speaker 1: Damn, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's Brittany, Britney, Britney Pitch. I'm telling you it's Brittany Man.
Speaker 2: Christina's Latina.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Christina don't act Latina.
Speaker 2: She don't even claim you did right. I'm confused with
Speaker 2: this one. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Holy ship Brittany and Brittany's Instagram, my girl just put
Speaker 1: me on. She's like, she's yeah, I'm telling you I've
Speaker 1: been down by Brittany a fucking around and take off
Speaker 1: on Christy. We need to do the way in right here,
Speaker 1: drink chances the way Holy sh Okay, it's a good one.
Speaker 1: Fuck Master flex or DJ Clue in what way whatever
Speaker 1: that's you, because there's an animation that comes with flex.
Speaker 2: Nobody cared to me, No one's out.
Speaker 1: Nobody has out animated rhymes, and the only way to
Speaker 1: be an exceptional DJ is to capture the attention of
Speaker 1: the audience, and I'm think nobody does that better than Flex.
Speaker 1: So in that note, I gotta go with Flex.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you Like I used to
Speaker 2: have to catch myself because I would listen to Flex,
Speaker 2: and Flex like pull over and I pulled over, Like
Speaker 2: what the fuck am I pulled over for.
Speaker 1: New York City? Pull? I'm listen.
Speaker 2: New York City with Flex.
Speaker 1: Player record that you like, artist that you love, and
Speaker 1: he's dropping them ball is like.
Speaker 2: From here. Yes, he comes from an experience like some records.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to you some things I might
Speaker 3: have thought was trash before Flex actually presented it on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: After they presented it, I was like, Yo, that ship
Speaker 2: was kind of dope. So it was all in the presentation,
Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I tell you that.
Speaker 2: I tell you that's what I like about Flex. If
Speaker 2: he's laid on the record, he'll come back on station
Speaker 2: just be like yo, I'm.
Speaker 1: Sorry, New York City. I was late on this record,
Speaker 1: Like I liked it.
Speaker 2: I like that, like I remember I said this on
Speaker 2: this on before well with Meek and and Drake was
Speaker 2: going at it. Flex hyped it up so bad. He
Speaker 2: was like, I got the response from Drake, and I
Speaker 2: got Meek Mill's response. I called my wife not coming home, bag,
Speaker 2: not tonight. I have to stay in New York City.
Speaker 2: Here funk Flex talk this ship about Drake and Meek's record.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have been nowhere else. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: be on a plane. I didn't want to listen to
Speaker 2: it on the headphones. I wanted to sit in the
Speaker 2: car and just let Flex just played Drake's and Meek's
Speaker 2: mile record and he didn't have neither one that day,
Speaker 2: breaking the whole flight. Wife bad at me, But that's how.
Speaker 2: That's how, But that's how. That's some showmanship.
Speaker 1: That's how.
Speaker 2: The next day I called him this why I love.
Speaker 2: The next day I called him, I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 2: I want to give you a record because you know
Speaker 2: everyone's too. Then he was like, Yo, Norri, that was
Speaker 2: a rough night for me today, right because I'm trying
Speaker 2: to avoid that yo. You know, like he looked crazy.
Speaker 2: He had neither record at this time, so he's promoting
Speaker 2: all this ship and so I'm trying to avoid it.
Speaker 2: And he's like, but he wants because you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep it real. So he's like, yo, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a rough night for me last night, right,
Speaker 2: I said, Flex.
Speaker 1: I can't lie. He was baking like a biscuit. He goes,
Speaker 1: He goes, this is how no nor I had to
Speaker 1: stay home.
Speaker 2: The next day he said, it was one person that
Speaker 2: came to my house, and he said, he opened the
Speaker 2: door and it was the FedEx man. The FedEx man
Speaker 2: looked at him like he took his loss the same
Speaker 2: way he took his like he took his w And
Speaker 2: Flex told me something that day. It was like, alright, cool,
Speaker 2: you lose for momentarily, come your ass out the next
Speaker 2: day and get back to the way. But he took it.
Speaker 2: He took out that that was remarkable to be he
Speaker 2: could do the last two.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Nipsy are easy. Oh that's a good one too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Nipsey just I don't know. I would go with
Speaker 1: Nipsey on this one. Yeah. And the last one, loyalty
Speaker 1: or respect. Loyalty all day. You can't respect somebody that
Speaker 1: you're not loyal to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you said you spoke earlier about Jimmy Ivan.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows that Jimmy Ivan is like one of the
Speaker 2: illest UH artists and artist like, he's an artist based artist.
Speaker 1: I called Jimmy Ivan the king Maker. Damn, that's the king,
Speaker 1: the king Maker. That's what he does. If he comes
Speaker 1: into your life, he's gonna change it.
Speaker 2: Now. He came into your life.
Speaker 1: After loud right, No, he came into my life during
Speaker 1: my peak, at the point when I thought I couldn't
Speaker 1: get bigger. Wow, he made me bigger.
Speaker 2: That shows you.
Speaker 3: And what I love about Jimmy is that he allows
Speaker 3: you to yourself. Like he doesn't dictate what you need
Speaker 3: to be doing or tell you what he thinks you
Speaker 3: should do. He'll hear you out and then give you
Speaker 3: the tools to make it work.
Speaker 2: Let me because I want to get back to that.
Speaker 2: But in the beginning, wasn't you all loud.
Speaker 1: No, I was on s r C. You want to
Speaker 1: make sure that you understand. Yeah, Partner Rich Corporation, that's
Speaker 1: all him, right.
Speaker 2: Right, right right, Yeah, that's was by himself, but was
Speaker 2: was his partners with just right? Oh sr C as well? Okay,
Speaker 2: I didn't know, Okay, So at what point, did you
Speaker 2: did you and Steve part ways?
Speaker 1: We never part ways? Still you still this day we
Speaker 1: contact each other. Oh wow, yeah we never literally like
Speaker 1: we never parted ways. Wow.
Speaker 3: All my records was always ran through Steve rip Can
Speaker 3: until my contract was ran out. And that's when you
Speaker 3: went to Now, when I went to Interscope, I wasn't
Speaker 3: signed there. My label deal was at Interscope. I was
Speaker 3: still at SRC.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You're getting both goddamn ship And that's where T Paine
Speaker 2: was at.
Speaker 3: No, t Pain was my well, he was at my
Speaker 3: other label deal over So that's that's so. I had
Speaker 3: a label deal a Sony, a joint venture label deal
Speaker 3: at University with s r C. And then I had
Speaker 3: my con life over at UH Interscope. So Commic music
Speaker 3: was at Sony M. Yeah, it was Joe first before
Speaker 3: Sony acquired them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got.
Speaker 1: Holy Ship. Yeah, but Jimmy, Jimmy was And you said,
Speaker 1: when does Jimmy come into the picture.
Speaker 3: Jimmy came into the picture when I was shopping my
Speaker 3: label deal because I went to Universal first because I
Speaker 3: was already there and I presented.
Speaker 1: Them my list. I want to start a labeled as
Speaker 1: what I'm Wanna do, and I brought in T Pain.
Speaker 1: I was there. They laughed me out the building. You
Speaker 1: remember that, man, They was Joe and you know how
Speaker 1: they jone over s I s especially oh man.
Speaker 2: Godby, oh my goodness. Yeah, it's big Gapy at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: math he got slim and stop.
Speaker 1: Being funny, like yo, the records and he was saying,
Speaker 1: all clear, Yo, the records are amazing.
Speaker 2: But bro his face.
Speaker 3: He would say stuff like that, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 3: so they leaders say they passed. So I went to
Speaker 3: the top and tried to go through the big building
Speaker 3: and then they passed. So that's when I went to
Speaker 3: job and job took T Pain. But then when the
Speaker 3: success of TE.
Speaker 2: Pain, that's when I came back to doing another time
Speaker 2: ll at job.
Speaker 1: At Job, it was U It'll come to me in
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 2: It's damn, I'm not faith.
Speaker 1: It was Barry White. It was Barry White.
Speaker 3: Another brilliant, brilliant, brilliant motherfucker right, So it's Barry White
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 1: So then with the success Ty.
Speaker 3: Pain, that's when I doubled back to try to do
Speaker 3: a direct label deal with Universal again. And then that's
Speaker 3: when Melon Winter told me that what I'm asking for,
Speaker 3: nobody would give it to me. You know, this is like, no,
Speaker 3: it was it was well, it was a label distribution deal,
Speaker 3: but then it was the amount of money that I
Speaker 3: wanted up front, and he was like, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of unfortunately, we're not going to be a get that
Speaker 3: kind of money. And if you go anywhere, they won't.
Speaker 3: I don't think they'll do it anywhere. But if you
Speaker 3: can find somebody to do it, then feel free to
Speaker 3: just take the deal. I said, okay, no problem, and
Speaker 3: that's what I called Tubby, and Tubby brought me in
Speaker 3: Divine over the in the sculle, and that's when I
Speaker 3: met with Jimmy, and Jimmy already had my full portfolio
Speaker 3: already out. He already knew what it was. He said, listen,
Speaker 3: this is what you're worth. This is what we want
Speaker 3: to give you. I wanted to do the deal here
Speaker 3: and it was what you expected. It was double what
Speaker 3: I wanted. It was do you just asked for double
Speaker 3: what I just asked for?
Speaker 2: Fuck, that's dope.
Speaker 1: And that's when it all worked out.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 2: And then where does Lady Gaga come in?
Speaker 1: So Lady Goga was already at inter Scope when I
Speaker 1: got there.
Speaker 2: She was an artist artist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was actually an artist there, but at the time,
Speaker 3: I don't know what Inner Score was gonna do with
Speaker 3: hercause she was there for a minute, right, she was
Speaker 3: under Troy and Vince under management there. So we was
Speaker 3: writing for the Pussycat Dolls at the time, and then
Speaker 3: that's when I got I was just excited about this deal.
Speaker 1: I was happy. I called it complete block. I needed
Speaker 1: some inspiration.
Speaker 3: So I was like Red One, which is an artist,
Speaker 3: I mean a producer that I had just signed from
Speaker 3: Morocco man was working. I was like, you know, anybody
Speaker 3: can just come back and forth with He's like, well,
Speaker 3: I was in the studio with you know this check
Speaker 3: that Fa brought in. You know, like she's pretty dope.
Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, you can get some inspiration, trust me.
Speaker 3: When you see her and she walks in with these
Speaker 3: all gold le guitars and stuff and looking like she's
Speaker 3: from the eighties.
Speaker 1: And I was like, but she looked like a real artist.
Speaker 4: But was that a good damn or a bad damn?
Speaker 4: You know, it was like a or a different dare different.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what that damn meant yet she was
Speaker 4: already she was already different, like she was already different.
Speaker 3: But then after, you know, after speaking with her, talking
Speaker 3: to out like this bitch is mad talented. So we
Speaker 3: write the record. She goes into demo the song album.
Speaker 3: So as she's going in the demo the song for
Speaker 3: the girls to hear it, I'm looking like, man, yo.
Speaker 2: This bitch is a star.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, ready she signed. He's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: ask her when she get out. So she comes out.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was a situation.
Speaker 3: She's like, well, you know I met an innerscope. I said, really,
Speaker 3: I said, sohole situation. She said, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not quite sure. I said, okay, give me a second.
Speaker 3: I called Jimmy.
Speaker 1: I said, Jimmy, what's up with this lady? Guy got chick?
Speaker 1: And he's like why, I said, I think I want
Speaker 1: to sign her. He said take her? I said I have.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, she's all yours. It's crazy, like he
Speaker 1: threw me that bone, like literally like take her. Almost
Speaker 1: if he didn't know what to do with her. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that because Jimmy. Yeah, you can't never count
Speaker 1: Jimmy out. He hold it down ntil he knows what
Speaker 1: to do with it. But I guess it's gave me
Speaker 1: doctor exactly. Jimmy was great for preparing producers with writers
Speaker 1: or producers and artists, and artists writing me, you understep
Speaker 1: he knew, right. So when he saw that I had
Speaker 1: interest in it, he was like, that can work. So
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, take it. So then mind you, we
Speaker 1: got to smash hit record. I said, you, Jimmy, we
Speaker 1: got the record. I'm going back in. He's thinking, we're
Speaker 1: playing the record for the pussy Cat Dolls. But at
Speaker 1: that point when he told me I can have gag,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're working on her album.
Speaker 2: How I forgot all right? So now we put it.
Speaker 1: We going there.
Speaker 2: We're playing this record just damn okay.
Speaker 1: Oh he going crazyness. I'm like, God, this is that.
Speaker 2: We got fucking one. We got it, we got it.
Speaker 3: So now the whole time, he's thinking this record is
Speaker 3: the perfect record for the pussy cat So the music stops.
Speaker 3: So jim what are we doing? He said, man, thank
Speaker 3: you man. The pussy Cat Dolls is going I love
Speaker 3: this record.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: He's dating one of them at the time, isn't he
Speaker 2: No comment no comment.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have the information.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what we're doing. On all I
Speaker 2: can tell you, I tell you Jimmy was a very
Speaker 2: handsome guy and all the girls wanted them.
Speaker 1: That's all I can tell you.
Speaker 3: So the worst. So so then he's like, you know, so,
Speaker 3: uh what are you doing? I said, well, can we,
Speaker 3: you know, put this record out. He's like yeah, but
Speaker 3: at the time he wanted to put on pussy Cat
Speaker 3: Dolls and me and Martin was like, he's looking at
Speaker 3: me like con don't, don't say nothing, because you know me,
Speaker 3: I'm so outspoken. I say, oh, Jimmy's.
Speaker 1: RECORDSS for ga GA. He's like no. Jimmy was like yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, Jimmy, this is regular for gay.
Speaker 1: He said what I said, Yes, it's forgot. He said, Okay,
Speaker 1: make me understand this.
Speaker 3: I said, Jimmy, listen, the pussy Cat Dolls are already
Speaker 3: a global smash art, like their piece of art. All
Speaker 3: they need is one record. I make a million of mess.
Speaker 3: You can see I just did this last night. I'll
Speaker 3: make another one for them. He said that's not good enough.
Speaker 3: I said, okay, listen to this. Record again, one more
Speaker 3: time we've played the record. I said, this record will
Speaker 3: make you another pussy Cat Dog or possibly even bigger.
Speaker 3: This is a record that break a new artist, not
Speaker 3: keep a new artist popping.
Speaker 1: And he thought about it. He said, would you put
Speaker 1: your label on that?
Speaker 3: I said yeah, I said this record don't work, you
Speaker 3: could drop me, and he let me go with it,
Speaker 3: and that probably been the best decision collectively we made
Speaker 3: together together.
Speaker 6: Wait, wait, would you were you not worried that the
Speaker 6: machine would have not got behind the record?
Speaker 1: Listen stuff like that sabotage.
Speaker 2: I don't you know why?
Speaker 3: Because one thing I do know, and I believe this
Speaker 3: in my soul, A hit record is always gonna find
Speaker 3: this artist always, even if it ain't got pushed. It
Speaker 3: might take a lot, it may take time. And prime
Speaker 3: example Bonanza belly Dancer. A lot of people don't know
Speaker 3: that was my first single before Locked Up. Right wrong,
Speaker 3: I didn't know that that was my first single, first
Speaker 3: thing heard university dropped that first. When that didn't work,
Speaker 3: that's when locked because while they was moving and working
Speaker 3: Belly Dancer, me Gody Cleve and I, we was.
Speaker 2: On the road pushing Locked Up.
Speaker 3: Wow, So Locked up gaining some the momentum on the
Speaker 3: streets became on everybody's mixtape. Then we did that little
Speaker 3: Penitentiary towards starting off in royck Iss Island, did that
Speaker 3: little you know what's the name?
Speaker 1: People?
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, styles P came on when stops P
Speaker 3: came home. It actually changed everything because its verse made
Speaker 3: it actually an urban.
Speaker 2: Record, because I so was it locked up out without
Speaker 2: styles being Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: The first time I heard locked up I believe it
Speaker 2: was with styles Peers.
Speaker 3: Record before styles P got on. We was working that
Speaker 3: record about seven maybe eight months. When Stiles got on.
Speaker 1: That record took off. Why took off? Yeah? Oh and
Speaker 1: then we did another remix with Beanie siegell on there.
Speaker 1: I never heard that that came out, Yeah, it came.
Speaker 2: It was on the B side.
Speaker 3: Oh, but what happened was the styles P version just
Speaker 3: trumped it. But Beanie Siaguals versus stupid. Wow, it was stupid.
Speaker 6: Know that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, let me let another.
Speaker 6: So do you think you think you get credit for
Speaker 6: enough credit for Lady Gogo's career?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for your pardon it, I got plenty of credit.
Speaker 3: I got enough credit that I can maximize to build
Speaker 3: my city. That's all the credit I need.
Speaker 2: Maximize to build your city, bro, Yes, build your city,
Speaker 2: build our city. Okay, okay, let's take that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I think that.
Speaker 2: Coming back.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, what's the name of Acon city as of
Speaker 1: right now? Right now?
Speaker 2: Because I remember? All right, so what is the city
Speaker 2: consist of?
Speaker 3: I mean just think of just think of what dubaias today, yes,
Speaker 3: and what it used to be fifteen years ago. Remember
Speaker 3: that's what we we want to become.
Speaker 2: Gonna it's gonna start.
Speaker 3: It's gonna start small, right, It's gonna start small. Two
Speaker 3: thousand acres in synagogue, yes, in Senegal, right off the waters,
Speaker 3: all on the beach front.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to have resorts.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have entertainment complexes, you know, hotels, boating docks,
Speaker 3: you know, amphitheaters for concerts, film studios, music studios, restaurants.
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be it's gonna be a master How
Speaker 3: far you think this is a way? Well, the first
Speaker 3: stage is three and a half years. We are we
Speaker 3: just literally started building last last week actually, when we
Speaker 3: talked about the first time, we had just started doing
Speaker 3: you know, environmental studies, soil studies, all that stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: doing all the paper, all the studies, and then KOVID
Speaker 3: hit four minutes slowed us up, but then we got
Speaker 3: back into it. But now everything is official. Construction actually
Speaker 3: literally started last week.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful man, that's beautiful man. And is that where
Speaker 2: we were talking about the Chinese helping out with the electricity.
Speaker 1: No, that's no, that has nothing to do with has
Speaker 1: nothing to do nothing at all.
Speaker 3: The Chinese side was acon lighting and that's when we
Speaker 3: were providing solar lights to you know, it started with villages.
Speaker 3: Then we got then we expanded and got into government
Speaker 3: contracts to do utility work, scale work, so we would
Speaker 3: kind of just take a specific side of the city
Speaker 3: and electrify that whole area and then connect to the
Speaker 3: city above or whatever the case, till we got the
Speaker 3: whole country. But then, I mean, when we got the
Speaker 3: support from the Chinese with that billion dollar credit line,
Speaker 3: we was able to expand into sixteen different countries.
Speaker 2: In Africa because there was there was there's still places
Speaker 2: in Africa without electricity. Yeah really, oh yeah, like villages.
Speaker 1: Yeah, real, Africa's huge.
Speaker 3: It's gonna take another forty fifty years to light the
Speaker 3: whole continent up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take time.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, ye, like because we see like places like indigitous.
Speaker 3: Right, there's still some area indigenous areas in Africa, and
Speaker 3: I heard.
Speaker 2: There's even places. I know Africa is huge. I heard
Speaker 2: there's one place in Africa where there's like no outside
Speaker 2: people is allowed.
Speaker 1: Like it's like, I mean ship. There's place like that
Speaker 1: in California and in New York, a certain place you
Speaker 1: can't want even the cops can't come in Africa.
Speaker 3: Mean, personally, I haven't never experienced no areas like that,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure there's areas out there that they've never
Speaker 3: seen white people or they've never seen foreigners come and
Speaker 3: dressed a certain kind of way. Because if you go
Speaker 3: deep in Africa where there's no.
Speaker 1: Airports in the countryside, like the rural areas, there's areas
Speaker 1: where there's not even no cars. Maybe you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's.
Speaker 2: How big this place is. Riding horses, you think, or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still riding horse. I mean beautiful horses too,
Speaker 1: beautiful horses. Holy, you don't fuck with lions and ship
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: That's a different kind of questions because you see rich
Speaker 2: people have lions, knowice in the house.
Speaker 3: Don't forget you must have forgot. I had two tigers
Speaker 3: in my house in Atlanta. Like, those are my real pets.
Speaker 3: Like that, those are pest.
Speaker 1: Those are the.
Speaker 3: Shoes cats all day, black panthers, tigers one thousand percent. Bro,
Speaker 3: put your dog up against my lion, and see what happened.
Speaker 2: Just imagine you ever walked your dog around the neighborhood
Speaker 2: and I don't like them? I mean, you're lying. You
Speaker 2: ever walked into the like Tyson said?
Speaker 1: He what is what?
Speaker 2: He said?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He slept with his lions. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He was like, how does that work? He said, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work.
Speaker 3: But the kids you gotta raise them from from cubs though,
Speaker 3: right right, once you get up a baby, you got
Speaker 3: to declare them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might want to declare them and defang them,
Speaker 2: I think or whatever.
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 1: The defanging ain't gonna really do much because they still
Speaker 1: got a hard bite.
Speaker 7: Like, Bro, that.
Speaker 1: Defanging means nothing.
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 1: If they come at you is done because these teeth
Speaker 1: are still existing. It's just the things that you can't
Speaker 1: take those teeth because I got to eat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, listen, you mistreated, It's gonna come for you. What.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to no pet like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's any pant though. That's truth, that's the truth. Yes,
Speaker 1: he said, I see the street is donna come for you.
Speaker 1: I've seen the story the other day that I think.
Speaker 1: What's his name, Joe Rogan. He said, this is how
Speaker 1: ill pip is.
Speaker 2: That he came home. His piple was cut all up, wow,
Speaker 2: like cut all up all over his face. His piple
Speaker 2: was cut up. So he in his back and everything.
Speaker 2: So he took the dog and he brung the dog
Speaker 2: to the hospital hospital system up. But then when he
Speaker 2: brung him back, he wanted to understand no one knows
Speaker 2: the story. He wanted to. He wanted to to see
Speaker 2: what exactly happens. So he followed the the trail of
Speaker 2: his dog and he saw ten coyotes. Ten dead coyotes,
Speaker 2: nine dead coyotes. So the coyotes was coming in trying
Speaker 2: to kill him, and the dog held it down against nine.
Speaker 2: He killed nine coyotes. Bro, that's that's kind of hard,
Speaker 2: and that's hard, like that's that's a lawyer asked, I said,
Speaker 2: maybe every time I see it, put bull down like this.
Speaker 1: Like this.
Speaker 2: Make sure me and you're on a good level.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna go into some.
Speaker 2: Of these hits.
Speaker 1: Man, We're gonna go into some of these hits. Man,
Speaker 1: where did we start?
Speaker 2: Let's start with the two Like I said earlier, Uh,
Speaker 2: if you're in the club and you don't hear these
Speaker 2: two records, that means you're in the worst club there
Speaker 2: ever is. If they won't play I want to Walk
Speaker 2: You Sweet and Snoop Dogg and if they don't play
Speaker 2: Smack that I suggest.
Speaker 1: You immediate.
Speaker 2: Immediately.
Speaker 1: But what was it?
Speaker 2: What was Let's let's start with one. I want to
Speaker 2: fuck you obviously? What what what made you make that?
Speaker 2: Because girls say that too. It's not like only guys.
Speaker 2: The club is going on. You're like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm trying to say, mean literally, but
Speaker 2: it's a unisex, it's a university. Did you did you
Speaker 2: think that was gonna be a unit set? And then
Speaker 2: where was your mind for listen to take?
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the time I was in Magic City when
Speaker 3: I break there, goddamn them pepper Wings.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what's interesting? Day limit pepper wasn't popular there.
Speaker 2: That's a travesty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't popular in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: You gotta was y'all chopping on wings in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight in Miami.
Speaker 3: There wasn't miamise either that or I wasn't up on it.
Speaker 2: Make sure we go back to I want to fuck
Speaker 2: you in and and Magic City. You keep saying that
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back to what I want to try that.
Speaker 2: Hold hold on in your humble opinion. The first time
Speaker 2: you had limit pepper? Where was it that?
Speaker 1: Because this is this is is a big Miami, more Miami.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting is the first time I ever had
Speaker 1: it was here in Miami. Okay. Yeah, I ain't knowing
Speaker 1: about it until I in Miami, Okay, Because I told.
Speaker 3: You about that time, I didn't know what That's why
Speaker 3: it was like living pepper wings didn't exist at least
Speaker 3: for me. But I know when I came here, that's
Speaker 3: when I got put up on it.
Speaker 2: Then when I got home, would you had your first
Speaker 2: living pepper? You got birthday? Damn it. That's to me,
Speaker 2: that's what I heard. Living pepper is invented. That's what
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I can't tell that to
Speaker 2: Atlanta nigga.
Speaker 1: He what.
Speaker 2: I realized more Miami than Listen. I realized, I gotta
Speaker 2: leave that set up to y'all. That's what you Miami.
Speaker 1: She's got a broader selection, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I had it first in Cities, but then I
Speaker 2: had it very close in ONX as well.
Speaker 1: Didn't that take one?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 2: Maybe very soon, very soon? Okay, So you're in Magic
Speaker 2: City and you just said, man, I want to suck
Speaker 2: this bitch. Yeah, pretty much pretty much? So what the
Speaker 2: rhythm comes to you? Just looking at it? She's there?
Speaker 3: No, it was a thought, oh okay, like whatever song
Speaker 3: was playing, I was in the mood of that song,
Speaker 3: but it was really about her and what she was
Speaker 3: doing on that Okay. Then when I got to I
Speaker 3: mean it just, I mean literally left the studio, I
Speaker 3: mean left Magic went straight to the studio.
Speaker 1: He was writing, huh was you already writing in your mind?
Speaker 3: And I knew what I wanted to say, but I
Speaker 3: didn't know how I was gonna say it until after
Speaker 3: I made the beat.
Speaker 1: Then it just hit me. I knew exactly where I
Speaker 1: was gonna go with him.
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 1: I'm saying you made the beat, but she didn't. I
Speaker 1: was a producer, know you produced that.
Speaker 3: Everything that you heard me on the chorus, ninety five
Speaker 3: percent of stuff you heard me on the chorus beats
Speaker 3: that I mean, Yeah, that's how I used to deliver
Speaker 3: my songs with the chorus already on it.
Speaker 2: That's how you used to make placements.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, your publishing game is crazy and smart.
Speaker 8: It was easy to sell. The song was already done.
Speaker 8: I got to drop the verses, and then you get
Speaker 8: a block. I just write the verses for you too.
Speaker 8: It was literally that simple, Like, don't tell me. That's
Speaker 8: how Soul Survivor happened.
Speaker 1: Already chorus on it, beat, ready to go. It was
Speaker 1: actually gonna No, I'm not gonna tell that story, but yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: How I don't tell me beody no no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: If it would have been for anybody, it would have
Speaker 1: been for me. Put it so.
Speaker 3: But what's crazy was you had a song and you
Speaker 3: probably experiences where before you.
Speaker 1: He's a feature that shared somebody on it.
Speaker 3: He was like, man, think I'm gonna keep this with myself,
Speaker 3: Like as a producer, songwriter, right, it's some songs you
Speaker 3: just want to hold on to. That's the feeling I
Speaker 3: had after I did Soul Survivor. But then when I
Speaker 3: met with Jeezi and I heard his mixtape, Bruh you
Speaker 3: need this, I just jumped out the window. I was like,
Speaker 3: it's no way this nigga on this record is not
Speaker 3: going to be a bigger record. It was impossible. It
Speaker 3: was just impossible. So when I sent it to him,
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if he liked it or how he
Speaker 3: felt about it, because it took about.
Speaker 1: Almost to the end of the day before I got
Speaker 1: it back.
Speaker 3: But the fact that I got it back the same
Speaker 3: day was kind of common because a lot of people
Speaker 3: at that time was always excited to get a con
Speaker 3: convict track, so they would do it real quick and
Speaker 3: sind the back. But Jez took a little bit longer
Speaker 3: than normal, and I was like, damn, sh ain't back yet.
Speaker 3: But when it came back, though, I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I sent that shit over to Meach He
Speaker 3: was like, Nigga, so this ship we own like, because
Speaker 3: you got to stand around that time, BMF had the
Speaker 3: biggest brand, but no really no songs out there. They
Speaker 3: just them niggas will be on maybe out the Source
Speaker 3: magazine getting awards.
Speaker 1: And all that.
Speaker 2: Nigga, you're the best that I ever did.
Speaker 1: Niggas getting awards and everything with no ax out, no records,
Speaker 1: huh no, But they was the cultry man, it was,
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was something. But Jeeze I
Speaker 1: just knew he was.
Speaker 2: Destined for it, you know. So let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Have you ever gave up a record and you was
Speaker 2: mad as ship for giving up a record?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I was never mad at giving
Speaker 3: up a record. But there are records that I gave
Speaker 3: up that I that I thought would be huge and
Speaker 3: it didn't. You thought that right, like I thought, and
Speaker 3: you know those records. It's kind of hard to kind
Speaker 3: of take him back to give him somebody else.
Speaker 1: So you just got to eat that, you know. Yea.
Speaker 2: You ever heard that track, jigga?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that I gave that up that it
Speaker 1: was that.
Speaker 2: When I heard they gave it the jay Z, I was,
Speaker 2: I was like, what they said, nor when we gave
Speaker 2: it to you? And I was like, but you could
Speaker 2: have told me I had no excuse track masters, I was.
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, but you're not. You know something you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss some You're gonna miss something and meant for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just wasn't meant for him.
Speaker 3: He probably would have got too famous, and at that
Speaker 3: time it probably wasn't a good thing.
Speaker 2: It was wild as hell, Yes, it was wild.
Speaker 1: We finished I want to you? Then how did you
Speaker 1: ask the dog? I'm trying to say this, so I'm
Speaker 1: trying to we're trying to avoid that.
Speaker 2: But what made you want to ask now dog? Oh man?
Speaker 3: That was just it was I think that was all
Speaker 3: perfect timing because at that time Snoop was always he was.
Speaker 3: He was hitting me up for songs and I always
Speaker 3: wanted to work with him, but I just didn't have
Speaker 3: the right record that I felt I could put him on.
Speaker 3: And then the record got leaked, and when they got
Speaker 3: leaked in Miami, Pliz was on the record.
Speaker 1: So Pliz had the record first. Because what's interesting enough
Speaker 1: was what I originally did the record. I did it
Speaker 1: for Trick Daddy.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: Originally, I was like, because I didn't see myself doing
Speaker 3: that kind of record, even though it was a spa
Speaker 3: by the whole things.
Speaker 1: All my songs were aspired by something.
Speaker 3: But I would always handpick which I asked what I
Speaker 3: think will be able to take the record off. So
Speaker 3: at that time, I'm thinking it was gonna be trick
Speaker 3: daddy Wow. When I sent the record to Slip and
Speaker 3: Slide till his day till this day, I'm guessing I
Speaker 3: never knew.
Speaker 1: How Plies actually got the record.
Speaker 3: All I know is that one week Steve got a
Speaker 3: call that's nigga, we gotta fucking smash in Miami. That's
Speaker 3: all all over satellite radio and every fucking strip club,
Speaker 3: every club. The record is so big, we gotta do
Speaker 3: something about it. And I was like, well, let me
Speaker 3: hear the record, nigga. When I heard that shit, I
Speaker 3: was like, God, damn, who is this little nigga?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: So it was one of them things.
Speaker 2: And then oh he wasn't out yet, No, he was
Speaker 2: a new artist. Oh okay, okay, he's already out.
Speaker 1: But everybody agreed that this was a smashit record.
Speaker 3: But universe was going crazy because first of all the
Speaker 3: records out, I'm not clear.
Speaker 1: The ship is like, it's already a potential hit. What
Speaker 1: do we do?
Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta recover this record. So we're like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: we need to just snatch him off of and put
Speaker 3: somebody on the record.
Speaker 1: And then that's when I was like, well, shit, let's
Speaker 1: put Snoop on the record.
Speaker 3: He's been calling me for records and he's he'd be
Speaker 3: a perfect nigga on here. So I sent him to
Speaker 3: Snoop Literally the same day he came back with the record,
Speaker 3: bodied it, and these niggas have the record mastered, mixed,
Speaker 3: and put out the same week. S like literally that's
Speaker 3: saying cause we had to catch it. The record was
Speaker 3: moving too fast that plaus version was gone. But then
Speaker 3: I felt bad. I was like, damn, you know, he's
Speaker 3: a new artist. This would have been his big break.
Speaker 1: Like I felt fucked up because I knew how hard
Speaker 1: it was to get a record and go because I
Speaker 1: know what I went through and locked up.
Speaker 2: But do you think he leaked it?
Speaker 1: Without a doubt?
Speaker 2: De board the funk?
Speaker 1: I supposed to do that, but honestly, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: had he reached out before he did it, believe me,
Speaker 1: I know for sure, but no, because guess what, had
Speaker 1: he not leaked it, we wouldn't have known the record.
Speaker 3: Was that big, So who probably would have worked it out?
Speaker 3: It could have been right, It could have been a
Speaker 3: record him anyway if it had we known him before
Speaker 3: that ship took off. But it just, I mean, God
Speaker 3: has his own way of how things happen, right, So
Speaker 3: at that point I felt bad.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: So we got on the phone and I was like, look, man,
Speaker 3: you know it's business. Some of it is beyond what
Speaker 3: I can do.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. I'm gonna make it up to you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, saying that's applies.
Speaker 3: Said it applies because I just felt bad because that
Speaker 3: was a smash, right, So I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: let me figure this out. So that's when I went
Speaker 3: into the studio and then I made hypnotize and I
Speaker 3: gave him hypnotized.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's so you.
Speaker 2: Take your talk for that's yeah, you was there all
Speaker 2: I got, Yo, that's crazy. I got all that in
Speaker 2: my notes. Okay, now, don't matter. Was that a sample?
Speaker 2: That was not a sample?
Speaker 3: It was all played all original. Yeah, but that was
Speaker 3: a melody part that I did take from Uh Bob.
Speaker 1: Marley we Gotta Fight for all right, Okay. I took
Speaker 1: a piece of that and added to the to the chorus. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the only part of that sample not the beat.
Speaker 2: That's that was a rendition part Okay, okay, so Survival
Speaker 2: you just answered that question. So how about Lonely. Let's
Speaker 2: let's get into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lonely, I wrote that when I was locked up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that record was I wrote that when I was
Speaker 3: locked up, and then I recorded it when I got out.
Speaker 2: Oh really, the whole the whole thing, whole record.
Speaker 3: And yeah, the song was written, but then the beat
Speaker 3: at the time wouldn't create it until I got out.
Speaker 3: And that's when I was going through my crates and
Speaker 3: and heard the Bobby Venting sample and I spared that
Speaker 3: up and we did the beat around the voice.
Speaker 1: Hell of a producer. Motherfucker is just hitting us with genius.
Speaker 2: Ship Hold up, I'm not even ready for some of
Speaker 2: this ship Hold on, man, and you know what, let's
Speaker 2: skip around a little bit. We spoke about Jimmy I Bean,
Speaker 2: so let's talk about working with doctor Dre oh Man.
Speaker 2: Working with Dre was like, well, let me give you
Speaker 2: a two part question. Yeah, because is that is that
Speaker 2: Nate Dogg on that record? On which one on the
Speaker 2: record with you guys with Dre at the hold up? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: You know? I never asked Dre, who that was. I
Speaker 1: never asked what that was.
Speaker 2: You looked at the credits.
Speaker 1: I never looked at the credit. You that rich, you
Speaker 1: were credit. It's just, you know, like like when you
Speaker 1: work with.
Speaker 3: Certain people like that, you kind of already know what
Speaker 3: the split is gonna before you get in, regardless of
Speaker 3: who you add to it.
Speaker 1: Dre, already know what you're gonna get, already know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get. You know what you're gonna get, and.
Speaker 3: Whoever else is involved, y'all split that amongst y'all type
Speaker 3: of thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, but overall, was y'all in this studio together making
Speaker 2: that record.
Speaker 1: We was in the studio together making records, but that
Speaker 1: one specifically was I was. I was traveling.
Speaker 3: That's when I did my I did everything for it,
Speaker 3: and then I sent it to them, And then when
Speaker 3: Dre sent it back to me, he had the snoop
Speaker 3: on his verse on there and the hold up voices.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't sure if that was actual Nate or
Speaker 3: someone else that sounded like him, or maybe something sampled
Speaker 3: from an older song added you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you know, Dre, you don't really.
Speaker 1: You just let him do what you ask, no question,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like, came back and
Speaker 1: fucking smashed, That's all I know. Yeah, right, yeah, beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful was amazing.
Speaker 2: How did you make that that one?
Speaker 1: I think that was around the time when I hold
Speaker 1: it before good and beautiful my back. Did you you
Speaker 1: say where you was at when you recorded the drake?
Speaker 2: What did you say?
Speaker 7: Where?
Speaker 1: Where were your traveling dre?
Speaker 9: I was on I was on tour actual, so tourte
Speaker 9: that normal, normal.
Speaker 3: So I went in the studio though, but I had
Speaker 3: I had, I had a studio in my bus. So
Speaker 3: that's how I was able to get the records out
Speaker 3: at the same time. And that's how I actually I
Speaker 3: was able to get sorry blame me response so quick
Speaker 3: because when that whole controversy hit, I was actually on
Speaker 3: the road with Gwen.
Speaker 2: Stefani when when you made the record.
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, blame me. I made that on the bus.
Speaker 2: Did Why did you make that?
Speaker 3: Because it was no, it was you know because at
Speaker 3: the time it was it was a huge controversy about uh,
Speaker 3: the club appearance that I made and intrider Dad and
Speaker 3: the underage girl snugging and was part of this dance
Speaker 3: whining contest and unfortunately she snug out the house.
Speaker 1: Her dad was a preacher and he woke up and saw.
Speaker 2: That she won on the first on the front page,
Speaker 2: like it was a big thing, right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he flipped out, like you know Literada.
Speaker 3: So at that point her age was revealed because the
Speaker 3: daddy was like, she's underage, how do you guys allow
Speaker 3: her to go into the club of the Da Dada
Speaker 3: And everybody was shocked because they was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: this is twenty one and older club, Like how was
Speaker 3: she fifteen in there?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the pop was just so hype about it, and
Speaker 3: of course me being a celebrity being attached, it just
Speaker 3: made a huge thing. And then Verizon pulled my sponsorships
Speaker 3: and all of this.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: Whenst Fani though, rode with me because that Verizon sponsorship
Speaker 1: sponsored the whole tour and.
Speaker 6: I was on it.
Speaker 3: So they came to home it was like, listen, con
Speaker 3: if you want us to continue sponsoring this tour, you
Speaker 3: need to pull him off your tour.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I'm not doing that, going to
Speaker 1: start finding against the nigga. She rocked with me though,
Speaker 1: ah no, no, yep, yeah, let's talk about that the
Speaker 1: Sweetest Scape as well, while we're on the right, y yeah,
Speaker 1: sweet es scpe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so sweet Eskatee was crazy. So Jimmy I Bean
Speaker 3: called me and was like, listen, I want you to
Speaker 3: go in with Gwyn. I was like, absolutely, I love Gwyn.
Speaker 3: This is before the tour, obvious, this is before the tour.
Speaker 1: This was before the tour.
Speaker 3: She had just finished her album, but they needed that
Speaker 3: one record like they would need it one record.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, let me hear the album
Speaker 3: and see what she got, and then I see, you
Speaker 3: know what I can put for. When I heard the album,
Speaker 3: it was a little different from what I would have
Speaker 3: wanted for her on the album, being who she was
Speaker 3: in the timeline in which she was recording those records,
Speaker 3: I felt there was a certain direction that I felt
Speaker 3: like she needed to go. So I just did that
Speaker 3: direction for the single that they wanted for, and while
Speaker 3: we were in the studio, that's when we wrote sweet Escape, right.
Speaker 3: So when we sent that over to Jimmy, he was like, man,
Speaker 3: this record is fucking amazing. But there wasn't enough time
Speaker 3: to do more records because she was literally like dropping
Speaker 3: that week. So we said, let's maximize this actual song
Speaker 3: because this could be the first record out. So they
Speaker 3: end up taking the song. It became in the first single.
Speaker 3: Then it became the song became the name of the album,
Speaker 3: Sweet Escape. Then they set up a whole tour around
Speaker 3: that song called Sweet Escape Tour, so that song became
Speaker 3: her whole marketing, imaging the whole like movement.
Speaker 1: For that whole album. Wow, you orchestrated that far. I
Speaker 1: made the record Jimmy Orchestra.
Speaker 6: But everything you're saying goes in line with you're saying
Speaker 6: that Jimmy is a kingmaker, because here you are blessing
Speaker 6: all these artists and helping and making their careers as well, right,
Speaker 6: which is crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, because I think sometimes it helps to have
Speaker 3: just new blood around that see things differently from how
Speaker 3: you know your core see it because oftentimes, like primise
Speaker 3: app let's say a building like Universe of for instance,
Speaker 3: they got to set group of producers that they go
Speaker 3: to every time.
Speaker 1: They sound acts. You know what I'm talking abo right now?
Speaker 3: Of course, set group of writers that they go to
Speaker 3: every time they sign to act, they all start to
Speaker 3: sound like they all start to feeling like there's nothing
Speaker 3: different because they's using the same producers that's been proven
Speaker 3: to have hit records. It becomes like a cookie cutter
Speaker 3: thing exactly. And I think that's what Jimmy was trying
Speaker 3: to cut away from. So that's why he started bringing
Speaker 3: in people that looked at the projects differently. Because even
Speaker 3: when you started, when you heard the first album versus
Speaker 3: the album that I was working on, there wasn't that
Speaker 3: much of a growth change. But when you hear that
Speaker 3: record on that album, you can hear the difference from
Speaker 3: that record versus everything else that was on there, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And.
Speaker 1: That means he's willing to take chances.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Me, I want to give you what you ain't got.
Speaker 3: I want to give you something that the audience can
Speaker 3: listen to it and say, oh, they stepping it up
Speaker 3: or they've grown from where it used to be, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But at the same time keeping
Speaker 3: integrity and what it is you bring to the table,
Speaker 3: but you also taking it to a level to where
Speaker 3: you look like you're becoming bigger than what you was
Speaker 3: before they.
Speaker 1: Experienced you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's crazyd damn it, Man, this is this is crazy.
Speaker 2: What are some of the producers that you haven't worked
Speaker 2: with that you would like to work with?
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, I haven't worked with.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The only producers that I actually ever worked with on collaboration.
Speaker 1: Remember he's producing, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Polo Polo and don I work. I worked with him
Speaker 3: on some collaboration stuff. Who nah me and Kanye hasn't
Speaker 3: We never worked on anything collaborative That could be crazy, yo,
Speaker 3: now that I think about it, he's the only no
Speaker 3: metro booming. Metro Booman worked on some stuff together and
Speaker 3: nothing on the track Man worked on. But that's all
Speaker 3: after my time. But during my time was I actually
Speaker 3: wasn't working with any producers?
Speaker 1: Were doing a work myself?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Hell yeah, some of the people will tymbling. I
Speaker 3: would love to do it. I think me and Tim
Speaker 3: together will come up with some.
Speaker 2: Because ain't you we're taking over right well? College, Ye,
Speaker 2: isn't it?
Speaker 1: Danger?
Speaker 3: I did some stuff with Runners as well too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and Danger was on Yeah, Danger was we.
Speaker 1: Take production on.
Speaker 2: I mean when we did the first interview with him,
Speaker 2: it was that callin studio. I think they were.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: It was that college studio.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was yeah, yeah, that was my home. Like
Speaker 1: that was my home bro.
Speaker 3: Like even till this day when I record in Miami,
Speaker 3: I go right back there, call it never.
Speaker 2: There playing golf.
Speaker 1: No, the ship got.
Speaker 2: Couple of golf digest.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of you got college, but
Speaker 1: is working.
Speaker 3: Keep going like yeah, that's that's like my studio now.
Speaker 3: Like I'd be like, okay, I'm in Miami. He said, well,
Speaker 3: you know what, the dude, I ain't there, Like he
Speaker 3: gave me somebody to talk to, the open up, close.
Speaker 2: Up everything like that. Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: That's like my home in Miami. You played golf.
Speaker 3: Actually I just started playing golf a year ago. I
Speaker 3: started my first golf tournament with Steve Harvey in Dubai,
Speaker 3: oh Shire.
Speaker 1: And and it was crazy. What's crazy?
Speaker 6: Was right?
Speaker 1: I cast some less before I started.
Speaker 2: Top golf, no actual golf.
Speaker 1: I was playing top golf before I got there, so
Speaker 1: I got the basic. My drive was already crazy because
Speaker 1: of top golf. Couple.
Speaker 2: That's my friends telling me right, tone bask myself don't
Speaker 2: get on the field first to the top golf telling you.
Speaker 1: The mini golf.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the putty. I was tling on the putts though.
Speaker 3: What saved me was we was playing by teams, So
Speaker 3: I do the drives boom twenty five on my first drives, bro,
Speaker 3: like killing it. But then when it's time to putt,
Speaker 3: you know, somebody the team that was good at putting
Speaker 3: gets So the first UH Golf tournament, we actually came
Speaker 3: number one. We were in first place. But then the
Speaker 3: second year when we came then they started bringing professionals out,
Speaker 3: so then we was last place. Oh no, we was
Speaker 3: playing some real top people. It's just the second time,
Speaker 3: you know, they they they're.
Speaker 1: Up, Danny.
Speaker 2: Play golf.
Speaker 1: No, but it's fun.
Speaker 2: Know it's addictive, bro, once you start. Yeah, it's addictive.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's addictive. It's addictive. Is it expensive? No,
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. Yeah. If you go
Speaker 1: on the average day you go to play golf, you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Be spending party a little bit und the final really,
Speaker 2: but and they smoked cigars and I see I see
Speaker 2: a lot of motherfuckers getting drunk out of there. Deals
Speaker 2: people make deals on the golf course.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what used to happen. How you
Speaker 3: take that they just tell secrets? Is that how you
Speaker 3: take being made?
Speaker 2: Let them get drunk and then you got a peanut
Speaker 2: klada and let's take a sip first, let's go.
Speaker 7: Y.
Speaker 1: So what is this?
Speaker 2: Is something we didn't ask you in a quick time
Speaker 2: and slive very famous? Uh on this show? Major or independent?
Speaker 7: What do?
Speaker 2: What do you prefer?
Speaker 1: All Right? So when I was major, I was screaming independent.
Speaker 2: Right you got independent?
Speaker 1: A you're gonna look it's interesting.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 3: When I was major, I was screaming independent all day.
Speaker 3: I was convincing everybody to go independent, independent, dependent. But
Speaker 3: that's because that was before I realized who I was.
Speaker 3: Because I never felt famous like I always felt like
Speaker 3: you know, see me now, like by myself, I always
Speaker 3: feel normal. But then when I got off the major
Speaker 3: and went independent, I said, independent ain't really for me.
Speaker 1: Because I'm too big to be independent.
Speaker 3: I need to be structured and managed by a major
Speaker 3: label because of who I'm who I am already. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're an artist that are beginning, or you got
Speaker 3: a nice little bubble within your your area or territory.
Speaker 3: Independence for you because you can grow independent and build
Speaker 3: your structure to become what you know, like manages your
Speaker 3: career self, you know what I'm saying, and grow to
Speaker 3: that level. But it's it's in steps, it's all the stages.
Speaker 3: But the artist that just comes from a major label
Speaker 3: and just goes deep diving independent, it's a bad idea,
Speaker 3: that's what.
Speaker 6: And that's why you always say that's because because I'm
Speaker 6: always advocating for independence, he's always advocate FA.
Speaker 2: But this is the thing when you're in a situation
Speaker 2: in the era that.
Speaker 3: Sinse because you're looking at the numbers that you're making
Speaker 3: these niggas and you're like, man if I could make
Speaker 3: that for me, but we don't also realize all the
Speaker 3: resources that have taken the machine, the machine that's the supportist,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You gotta realize, like you have to really grind.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And by the way, depending on your label, you gotta grind.
Speaker 2: When you're on a major with no dispec major, there's
Speaker 2: not The major labels are sometimes incompetent it sometimes their
Speaker 2: workers are just people that's lucky to be there. And
Speaker 2: it's also a lot of hookups. It's a lot. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of like like, this guy doesn't deserve that
Speaker 2: job that he has. His uncle hooked him up, so
Speaker 2: he's fucking up. So you gotta you gotta grind hard
Speaker 2: enough on the major. But if you for major spends
Speaker 2: three to ten million dollars on you, they can't take
Speaker 2: that back, right, So you need to get that back,
Speaker 2: and then you need to be as much independent within
Speaker 2: that major as possible. You know what I mean for
Speaker 2: you to make it work. That's what you owe it.
Speaker 2: You owe it.
Speaker 6: Let's let's be clear. You owe it, and contractually you
Speaker 6: got to get that money back and then you got to.
Speaker 1: Go through it.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, it's not even about contracts and moneys and
Speaker 3: recoups at that stage. It's about visibility, right because guess what,
Speaker 3: when you're out there and you're visible, the money gonna come.
Speaker 3: You can work, especially when you're bring out great product, right,
Speaker 3: But if you don't have the push and you're not visible,
Speaker 3: I don't care how dope you shit is.
Speaker 1: Nobody If nobody hears that, nobody can react to it. Right.
Speaker 1: So this the money that they're putting in you that
Speaker 1: gives you the exposure that you need to make money.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're recouping, but you also have an avenue
Speaker 1: to make more money like music should. Also, your brand
Speaker 1: is larger.
Speaker 2: Right, your brand is larger.
Speaker 1: Opportunities come.
Speaker 3: There's revenue and the opportunities from a ubstantial of making
Speaker 3: money that comes to you that the label don't share in.
Speaker 6: So that's really the bad. But this is the thing,
Speaker 6: this is what I'm always telling them. The percentage of
Speaker 6: the people that are successful in that system are smaller.
Speaker 6: So what I always advocate is be independent, to go
Speaker 6: to a major and take advantage of a deal that
Speaker 6: you could do with major because you're already independent, versus.
Speaker 1: You go in the fresh. You're gonna be taking advantage
Speaker 1: of fresh. You're gonna be on the shelf, right listen,
Speaker 1: that's successful. It's small.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. The greatest example the other day because you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, I would going to Paris for my
Speaker 2: wife's birthday, and I remember me going to Europe and
Speaker 2: me being able to do a component Noriega show, a
Speaker 2: Nori hosting, and then the Nori Latin show like all
Speaker 2: in one day because I was I was three different
Speaker 2: artists to these guys and they didn't see me but
Speaker 2: I wouldn't been able to pull that off as an
Speaker 2: independent art.
Speaker 6: But you were in the heyday of the labels, of
Speaker 6: the heyday of the industry, and you were you were
Speaker 6: reggae Thrombow.
Speaker 1: I know, but you that was what they came through,
Speaker 1: the reggae thone hey day, but it wasn't hip hop.
Speaker 6: No, but you still had what you were doing already
Speaker 6: from the past. Yes, you had past hit single on
Speaker 6: a major lader. I was trying to say, I'm just
Speaker 6: saying that. It's what I'm trying to say, is you
Speaker 6: are that percentage, that top percentage that did get through
Speaker 6: and could take advantage of that major deal.
Speaker 2: No, I think I took risk to be a part
Speaker 2: of that Percentagecause you gotta remember, like even like when
Speaker 2: I did, everyone laughed at me, included him, you know,
Speaker 2: everyone was everyone laughed at as a Latino hip hop
Speaker 2: headsprints and hip hop is him and Fat Joe and
Speaker 2: they both was like, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, what But at least years later they
Speaker 2: was like, we were wrong. But you know, we got
Speaker 2: to realize I had to go against the machine that
Speaker 2: was actually going against the machine. When I brung the
Speaker 2: record to depth. Jam I kid you not, this is
Speaker 2: a real story. I burned the record to death.
Speaker 7: Jam.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I want to put this out.
Speaker 2: And then they looked at they they laughed at me too.
Speaker 2: They was like, you wonder what I was like, I
Speaker 2: want to body and they looking at me like you're
Speaker 2: a hip hop artist. They didn't know what reggae throne was.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, this is music in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: I love that ship.
Speaker 2: I love this ship. And they were like, they were
Speaker 2: looking at me like this this is your Remember how
Speaker 2: game gang Star? Gang Star did the jazz album, and
Speaker 2: I remember good to the Jazz album. I could imagine
Speaker 2: you know, you know it's it's Beyonce later on the
Speaker 2: Spanish album so Many, But I was the first and
Speaker 2: I'm looking at that and they like, because you know,
Speaker 2: I got the war report. I made the war report.
Speaker 2: And They're looking at me like this is the exact
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm like, but I'm Puerto Rican, Like
Speaker 2: why can should I be held to it? So I did,
Speaker 2: like I said, I went against the masters. And it
Speaker 2: went from this is this is a real story. Kevin
Speaker 2: Laws is my boy, Kevin Lowles said, I said I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take this record and I'm gonna give it to uh.
Speaker 2: I will give it to just the Spanish DJs. So
Speaker 2: I didn't even give it to no black DJs, no
Speaker 2: white DJs. I gave it the DJ enough DJ Camillo,
Speaker 2: Felly fat foun what's my other man, Julio g uh.
Speaker 2: If it was just lat and I gave it to you,
Speaker 2: I gave it to him. He ain't play that ship,
Speaker 2: say I joking. He shouted on me in my face
Speaker 2: though at least he too wave me though he said
Speaker 2: in my face that Joe laughed in my face. So
Speaker 2: then so the record, the record, I make it just
Speaker 2: for a Porto parade. So this is three weeks before
Speaker 2: the reporter parade and get five hundred spins. Didn't get
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred spins, didn't get thirty five hundred spence did
Speaker 2: they get? Wow, this is on his own.
Speaker 1: That's a lot.
Speaker 2: If you're a huge I ain't gonna lie one thing.
Speaker 2: You gotta depend on lat thing you know is they Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what listen that record? You see that record, That's
Speaker 2: all I was doing. I was catering to the Latin audience.
Speaker 2: I was like, you want to fuck must support me.
Speaker 2: They kicked me out of hip hop right now. They
Speaker 2: kicking me out of hip hop for fucking with y'all.
Speaker 2: Fucking with y'all, and the record became number one. I
Speaker 2: had one hundred and forty million audience. I remember. I
Speaker 2: remember l A Reed coming to me. It was like
Speaker 2: you you you beat Mariah Carry this month. And I
Speaker 2: didn't know what that meant, but I know what it meant. Yes,
Speaker 2: I said that was shoot.
Speaker 1: I said, holy mor biggest female artists on a planet.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you something. This is the first
Speaker 2: time I knew that New York had seven radio stations.
Speaker 2: I had only knew about Hot ninety seven. I only
Speaker 2: knew about Power one on five. I had nothing to
Speaker 2: know about k T You. I never knew about mag
Speaker 2: Bad GUYE I never I never knew about I never
Speaker 2: knew about I'm doing radio now different, different, I'm on
Speaker 2: pop like I'm on pop. The record was so big.
Speaker 2: I remember me. The record was so big one time.
Speaker 2: I remember me being the club and the dude just
Speaker 2: bumping into me and gone.
Speaker 1: Just looking at He's ice frilling me, singing me.
Speaker 2: I just say, you a legend. No, but so I
Speaker 2: say that to say, I said, to say, now, look
Speaker 2: at the trifecta of that they go got the wrong
Speaker 2: was originally on that record. They got it on and
Speaker 2: Daddy Yankee took two different approaches. When Dago was on
Speaker 2: the record, the record was spiked in just Latino community.
Speaker 2: Daddy Yankee made a deal with Interschool Intersco said it's
Speaker 2: in their best interest to help depth Caam blow him
Speaker 2: up on my condo. And then and then and then
Speaker 2: we helped them on Gasolina remakes and look how look
Speaker 2: how because a two major. I'm not trying to get
Speaker 2: you the course over your major side, but I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm just give you a sam. No, I'm sorry, cause
Speaker 2: I keep looking at you. I want you to think like,
Speaker 2: but what I'm saying is, look, look look at that
Speaker 2: had had had those because if you look at the two,
Speaker 2: it's five of the major records that hit reggae throne. Right,
Speaker 2: I believe it's reggae thro Latino. I believe it's Gasolina
Speaker 2: And but you know you actually make it My point. No, No,
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is if you do something independently improve it,
Speaker 2: then it gives you more leverage and not in the machine.
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying for this, for this being like
Speaker 2: so new, for it to be commercialized, for it to
Speaker 2: get on MTV.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have been independent for.
Speaker 2: It to get on exactly but you.
Speaker 1: But you started the buzz independently. Nobody believed in it,
Speaker 1: right absolutely, that was my point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: It's like, but yeah, y'all, do know y'all both for right, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: but at the time and when you was active, independent
Speaker 3: was unheard of.
Speaker 1: Work.
Speaker 2: Yes, trust it would work.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: But today independents are actually more effective than the majors
Speaker 3: because of the new technologies and all the other you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: and because of streaming, but all the resource that's been
Speaker 3: created for the user.
Speaker 6: Well, the thing is independent works depending on what you
Speaker 6: want out of being independent.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: If if someone's trying to be big and they want
Speaker 6: to make certain kind of bread, maybe it wouldn't work.
Speaker 6: But maybe someone wants more creative you know, luxuries to
Speaker 6: be able to do whatever the fuck they want.
Speaker 1: I mean, you give you that with a major as well.
Speaker 3: The only difference is the audience knows the difference between
Speaker 3: a major push and an independent push and it's just
Speaker 3: unfortunate that today's audience now they rather support the underdog,
Speaker 3: right well, they don't even know anymore because they know
Speaker 3: they knew is when SoundCloud became what it was, because
Speaker 3: that was the home of the underdogs. SoundCloud became where
Speaker 3: all the majors started picking from, like all of.
Speaker 1: Them, you know what I'm saying. And that's what they
Speaker 1: stopped artists development. Now it's TikTok. I can't stand TikTok. Now, tiktoki.
Speaker 2: I can't even I can't stand. I can't stand it, yo.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about ring tones. Was that something that
Speaker 2: that that?
Speaker 6: Because that's crazy that that's like non existent really how
Speaker 6: big it was.
Speaker 2: But that was the first time. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've seen Snoop recently, Snoopers like, man, he was talking
Speaker 2: to Larry Jackson. He's like, Larry Jackson's talking all this
Speaker 2: crazy ship. But I'm priatephras and obviously, and he's like,
Speaker 2: but us as artists, we don't even know how much
Speaker 2: we get a stream. We don't really tell, you know,
Speaker 2: but uh, how do you what?
Speaker 1: Ringtones?
Speaker 2: So Ringtones the first time I complain because I was
Speaker 2: just like what the fuck is this ship? Like, why
Speaker 2: is my ship platinum? And I'm not receiving nothing for it?
Speaker 2: What I understood was it was going under electronical rights. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you you you signed over your digital rights digital rights.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know about that. That's what I
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 1: It wasn't You heard it too to it.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't there that the word.
Speaker 3: Digital wasn't it At the time when when you signed
Speaker 3: your original contract, it was that language wasn't there. But
Speaker 3: at the second time, when they renegotiated a little bit
Speaker 3: more money.
Speaker 2: You ain't even care what that was. You just wanted
Speaker 2: that money. Yeah, I got a I got this clearly
Speaker 2: said digital right. No, I got disagree. I don't think
Speaker 2: it was dead. I don't think it was.
Speaker 3: I promise you where year was that this was? Well, well,
Speaker 3: any year, any year after two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, wait, because they changed they
Speaker 1: changed the language in two thousand and four. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: most people ain't start catching to two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: That's probably when I caught it.
Speaker 3: You caught chosen you're on the renegotiation. That's where a
Speaker 3: lot of people got hit. Okay, that's where a lot
Speaker 3: of people got hit. See what what made me a
Speaker 3: little bit different was I was a businessman first, right,
Speaker 3: and then when we and it started because s r
Speaker 3: C was a little bit slow on so in situations too,
Speaker 3: because they had a boutique label.
Speaker 1: They were just distributed by major.
Speaker 3: So it gave me more time to understand what was
Speaker 3: going on, understand the business a little bit more because
Speaker 3: Steve Riffins was wide open.
Speaker 1: He was very transparent about it's work, right.
Speaker 3: So God, So I'm looking at how much singles were selling,
Speaker 3: but then the ring tones everywhere I go. I would
Speaker 3: hear songs on people's phones and I say, yo, how much?
Speaker 3: Like how much is that that you're paying for? They
Speaker 3: said fort ninety nine. I said, damn, that's for like
Speaker 3: a couple of seconds fort ninety nine and were selling
Speaker 3: singles for one ninety nine for four minutes.
Speaker 1: I said, wait, hold on, this is different. How much?
Speaker 1: Let me find out how much I'm getting.
Speaker 3: So I call my turn I say, yo, how much
Speaker 3: do I make from those ringtones if somebody use my phone?
Speaker 3: He said, well, let me check your contract. He said, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's not in your contract. I said,
Speaker 3: what do you mean, it's not in my contract. He said,
Speaker 3: it's not in here. It says nothing about ringtone sells
Speaker 3: anything digital. So that that stuff with me. So then
Speaker 3: I started making music. Specifically, put the phone because it's
Speaker 3: four ninety nine for a few seconds. Any basic businessman,
Speaker 3: I tell you that's where the money is.
Speaker 1: So every song that we was releasing was very ring
Speaker 1: tone friendly, especially mister Lonely Right.
Speaker 2: So then we put that thing original TikTok boom.
Speaker 1: It is definitely good.
Speaker 2: Describe it, yes, right now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So then we put the records out, but we would
Speaker 3: always make ring tone versions, chop them up into the
Speaker 3: different parts of the song we chopped.
Speaker 1: That was like my main focus. I didn't care about
Speaker 1: the singles and we just focused on the folks.
Speaker 3: Every record I produced, I made sure it's ringtone friendly,
Speaker 3: pup and before you know it, bro we was making
Speaker 3: so much on ring tones.
Speaker 1: But it was money sitting in the pipeline.
Speaker 2: You had to go claim it.
Speaker 1: Yes, And they think I ain't know, but I knew
Speaker 1: because they don't know that I knew. So I'm just
Speaker 1: letting the pile up. Letting the pile up. Renegotiation came.
Speaker 2: Nigga, I gotta put it down female a city.
Speaker 1: Boy. They tried to split that digital language, and I said,
Speaker 1: that's a separate deal all together. I advanced for the
Speaker 1: digital side because I bro At that time, I was
Speaker 1: in a Guinness Book of World Records for the most
Speaker 1: ring tone sold ever, I mean, above Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: any catalog beetles. It didn't matter. We trumped everybody. So
Speaker 1: we just waited and you made a separate deal. First,
Speaker 1: digital was a whole nother deal. They had nothing to
Speaker 1: do it and lot sales and tapes and CDs. This
Speaker 1: is digital's hold us something. We don't even know what
Speaker 1: this is yet, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: where ringtos first fell on the exactly anything.
Speaker 2: I'm like, digital's too broad.
Speaker 1: Let's break that down, like what you meant?
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it's too broad.
Speaker 1: And these contras do that to you because they can,
Speaker 1: they can actually win because it actually literally is and
Speaker 1: they counting on you not really reading the contract, they
Speaker 1: counting on you not understanding it.
Speaker 3: But what's interesting is even the attorneys at that time
Speaker 3: didn't really understand it because those guys are just guys
Speaker 3: sitting in the office. But I was always a tech tech.
Speaker 3: I was just always tech. I was always ahead of text.
Speaker 3: This is some of our tech that I just I was.
Speaker 3: I just always loved you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: the word digital mad, I knew exactly what that meant.
Speaker 3: But I also knew where the world was going. And
Speaker 3: I just ain't want nothing to come and you know,
Speaker 3: and I want to be a part of everything. So
Speaker 3: I said, no, let's let's define what this is specifically,
Speaker 3: so if some a new technology come, we can define
Speaker 3: that as it comes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So was iTunes back then?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: iTunes At that time they was fighting against Napster least
Speaker 3: the ship for free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nash is the beginning of streaming. Honestly, they the
Speaker 1: godfather in the stream. I put that and they said
Speaker 1: that music was going to be free for all. They
Speaker 1: could not understanding. Look at today. I remember when I
Speaker 1: went on down Stock, I cried. They had all my
Speaker 1: shit on there.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's like, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: do you do? What do you playing to?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Because I don't be one people who listen to myself
Speaker 2: for free? Fuck that.
Speaker 6: Fuck them fighting the bootleggings. You're beating up the poor bootlegs.
Speaker 6: Let's go on, what are you doing here? Okay, So
Speaker 6: in the vein of seeing the future and the technology,
Speaker 6: what are you thinking now about AI?
Speaker 1: What's that? Where is that going for? It is dangerous? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's dangerous. Can do a whole album with you. You
Speaker 1: ain't even gotta be there. I mean there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different aspects to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not Yeah, that's not the part of scares
Speaker 3: me because, like I told you, when I look at
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about twenty five years from now, AI has
Speaker 3: created It's almost like you know how they got the
Speaker 3: saying that everything you see in the movies eventually happens.
Speaker 1: It's actually very true. Robot everything very matrix terminated. Let
Speaker 1: me play how let me play how I robot?
Speaker 3: And this actually relates. Okay, we're talking about AI. This
Speaker 3: is machine learning.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: The problem with about the problem with us is humans.
Speaker 3: We are just very arrogant and we're super greedy. It's
Speaker 3: never enough for us. It always got to be more.
Speaker 3: We always want more. Right as if right now world.
Speaker 1: Amazing that we just ain't satisfied.
Speaker 2: We just got to build better, right, Why let me
Speaker 2: play with with with.
Speaker 1: With machines or computers.
Speaker 3: For instance, when you build a computer that can teach
Speaker 3: itself to teach yourself, computers already smarter than we are.
Speaker 1: Right, right, because of the computing power, how fast they
Speaker 1: can right, computer is already smarter than us.
Speaker 3: This is the process, right, So now imagine when the
Speaker 3: when the when the computer.
Speaker 1: Itself can teach itself.
Speaker 3: What happens is it'll start teaching itself things that we
Speaker 3: can't uncold.
Speaker 1: Could we code itself. It's thank you, it'll code itself.
Speaker 1: You can't control with the coldes because depending on the
Speaker 1: original programmer, whether he's thinking positive or negative, whether it's
Speaker 1: someone that want to change the world or destroy the world.
Speaker 3: That's where it becomes complicated, because if you find somebody
Speaker 3: that's creating situations that's in his best interest, and he
Speaker 3: may just be smart.
Speaker 1: Enough to crowd something that's gonna continue to you know,
Speaker 1: like teach yourself to a certain level. Then computers become
Speaker 1: a threat.
Speaker 3: Let's say hypothetically, computers in the security sector. Everything is
Speaker 3: a threat to the computer. It doesn't know that you're
Speaker 3: approaching me with good intentions. It just knows that you're
Speaker 3: walking up on me with a gun on your you know,
Speaker 3: on your waist, and your hot and your blood pressure
Speaker 3: is spiked up, maybe just because you just take blood
Speaker 3: pressure medicine.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: The first thing is going to happen is and that's
Speaker 3: what's happening. They're using machines for weapon. But in order
Speaker 3: to make a weapon, you also got to make something
Speaker 3: that's gonna protect. Right, So what's gonna happen is everybody
Speaker 3: that's actually against AI comes a threat now, so guess
Speaker 3: what they have to create machines to protect us from
Speaker 3: those who are against it, right, imagine that. Right, let's
Speaker 3: just say we don't want man, we're not for that. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're already on record. They know where we live, they
Speaker 3: know where we at all times. They have all our information,
Speaker 3: all our data, meta data, everything about us. They know,
Speaker 3: bro all just trying to figure out if you getting tapped. Yes, nigga,
Speaker 3: you are, bottom line, they know everything. That's how AI
Speaker 3: is even existing the day with all this information. Right,
Speaker 3: so now they know that we're against AI, so called
Speaker 3: against AI, we're already a threat to the system. So
Speaker 3: now those machines are watching us, checking for us. The
Speaker 3: moment we make a move that feels that it's a
Speaker 3: threat to the whole situation, we are terminated.
Speaker 6: And it can calculate your moves because they get and say, okay,
Speaker 6: this is.
Speaker 3: Probably thing, So now let's take it further. Right, they
Speaker 3: didn't already dealt with the ones that's against it. Now
Speaker 3: the ones that's against it got families.
Speaker 2: They go against them too.
Speaker 1: Now they're against it. It's just a matter of time
Speaker 1: before those machines turn from protecting.
Speaker 2: Us to go in after us.
Speaker 1: I mean, it may not happen like this, but it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of time because the more the machines
Speaker 1: get smarter they become, they become what takes control of everything.
Speaker 1: Guess how many jobs are gonna get lost? Yep, millions
Speaker 1: of jobs.
Speaker 2: I already seen the garbage truck with no garbage men.
Speaker 1: Now we take it even a step further. So the
Speaker 1: people that lost millions of jobs right, ain't got no
Speaker 1: way to feed their family. What they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: They're gonna turn to the street to turn it some
Speaker 3: against their own nature to feed their families.
Speaker 1: So now they've become the outlaw.
Speaker 3: And guess why I got to get protected from the machines,
Speaker 3: not have to protect those outlaws that lost all their
Speaker 3: jobs because of the machines to feed their families, and
Speaker 3: they become a threat and before you know it, some
Speaker 3: tragic's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of time before we kill ourselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not really far and that's just going
Speaker 1: that way. What it could do.
Speaker 6: I mean it could be as simple as AI is
Speaker 6: created to protect the environment. Who's the worst person against
Speaker 6: the environment.
Speaker 1: It's the human things.
Speaker 2: And then the says the humans the problem because we
Speaker 2: are humans controlling the a I don't know, we.
Speaker 1: Are always doing so. It's this is why it is dangerous.
Speaker 1: One like this is why is dangerous? Wizard behind this
Speaker 1: was dangerous? Nobody who controlling this is? We created it
Speaker 1: to teach and control itself. It's intelligence, artificial intelligence. It
Speaker 1: teaches it.
Speaker 3: There's there's no there's no senses of it. It doesn't
Speaker 3: have feeling, it doesn't have emotion.
Speaker 2: It does a big like place somewhere where we like,
Speaker 2: as did.
Speaker 6: Multiple companies and governments, like he said, there's multiple entities
Speaker 6: doing it in their own way however they want, right,
Speaker 6: But there's there was an AI that taught itself in
Speaker 6: a language that was never programmed to even learn a language,
Speaker 6: tought itself banglades Bangladeshi or whatever.
Speaker 1: The name of the languages, but you know, Banglo, Banglanese, whatever, but.
Speaker 2: I thought itself a language.
Speaker 6: But that's wild that a computer taught itself a language
Speaker 6: without being programmed to do that, right.
Speaker 3: The problem is we can't control it once it gets
Speaker 3: to the point of teaching itself, right, because when it
Speaker 3: starts to teach yourself, it acts on.
Speaker 1: What it teaches itself.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you can turn it off, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: But there's a million other ones that's open right now
Speaker 3: that's still plugged in then when they are But you
Speaker 3: used to have a big database in every part of
Speaker 3: the world because they always got separate database in case
Speaker 3: one go wrong and one get bombed or whatever. But
Speaker 3: we're just talking just basic analogies' hypotheticals. But now we're
Speaker 3: talking about war because really AI is really to gain
Speaker 3: knowledge and be able to gain positioning when it comes
Speaker 3: to war, threat from other countries and other foreign nations
Speaker 3: and whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: But the problem is the world is living on fear.
Speaker 1: Right as long as we.
Speaker 2: Living on fear.
Speaker 1: Everything is a threat. So as long as everything's a threat,
Speaker 1: nobody's safe. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: There's an arm race, arms race to create app Every
Speaker 2: government is doing it.
Speaker 3: Everybody's doing it just but they're doing it to use
Speaker 3: it as a weapon though. That's what's dangerous. That's the
Speaker 3: scarier part.
Speaker 2: I thought they was doing it just to use Biggie and.
Speaker 6: Prodigy versus you ain't hear Ice Cube Ice said, he said,
Speaker 6: is the mark? He said, you used my voice. I'm
Speaker 6: showing you in any platform.
Speaker 2: To post it. And I and I agree, that's music
Speaker 2: is actually was the biggest threat. I'm like, you got
Speaker 2: your own Biggie boy. I mean, if you're talking about
Speaker 2: that's you're thinking for music, for musical, You're right, it's
Speaker 2: endless things. I heard. I heard Biggie spit in New
Speaker 2: York state of mind. I said, wait a minute, that's
Speaker 2: not But what you.
Speaker 6: Got to worry about is when Nori is calling the
Speaker 6: police and say I admit to this crime. That's what
Speaker 6: you gotta worry about. That's what the everyday person's voice being.
Speaker 1: Used, right, and that could be done by your baby mama.
Speaker 2: I don't like you.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that one knows me because you got like
Speaker 1: nine wives. Right, no comments, you said it last time,
Speaker 1: no comment, you wind that back. I learned my lesson.
Speaker 2: That's like more making the record or performing it.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, me.
Speaker 3: I like both, man, Yeah, I like both because it's
Speaker 3: nothing like making the record and creating something and you're like, Dann,
Speaker 3: this is crazy. But then when you see how other
Speaker 3: people are reacting to it, that that's that's the only
Speaker 3: high experience really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so both, Yeah, definitely place to perform Africa, Africa,
Speaker 1: Yeah or Africa, it don't matter. Africa is always crazy. Wow,
Speaker 1: always crazy. India always crazy India. India is always crazy.
Speaker 2: Mumbai, Mumbai, mum by m bye. You don't have to
Speaker 2: use your your eyebrows to say about man.
Speaker 1: Man what riga again?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Rather loud you go.
Speaker 3: Viral and Mumbai Now so what that's the nucleus boy?
Speaker 3: Without that man, that'd be no acon by. So let
Speaker 3: me ask you, he's a slap Steve be like, YO,
Speaker 3: treat him good. That's my African.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you right, like, are you in the
Speaker 2: cars like I used to be? Because I used to be.
Speaker 2: I nearly told he was in the cars I used
Speaker 2: to have like twenty cars at one time.
Speaker 1: Thirty five cars. That's the legit side, though, is the
Speaker 1: ones that you get.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about legal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thirty All was white, white interior, every
Speaker 1: last huh. I mean it does comes from the mother
Speaker 1: lamb bro he was, he was, so they all was white,
Speaker 1: white interior, white interia, white exterior.
Speaker 2: So you never smoked the ship. They trying to get
Speaker 2: me up out of here. Wrap it up, independent, puppy.
Speaker 2: You know you want to come over here, party, be
Speaker 2: over here.
Speaker 1: Party. You're just talking about this record?
Speaker 2: So so damn And what are you in the muscle
Speaker 2: cars now?
Speaker 1: At the time, I was into more sports cars, Supercarsmborghini.
Speaker 1: Bugattis all that pung ganis.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not called Bugti. That's all he was
Speaker 2: pronounceing with it.
Speaker 1: You got a Bugatti and then you have a pool
Speaker 1: no Bugatti, and it was a what was it again?
Speaker 1: It's a Bugatti and a pughanikay, I don't know what
Speaker 1: is sot.
Speaker 3: Pugani at that time was more expensive than the Bugti.
Speaker 3: It's called puganis under and.
Speaker 2: Where that should come from?
Speaker 1: That's come from.
Speaker 3: It's an Italian cars.
Speaker 1: Muti pu Ghani, pum Ghani, Pugani do soth Indian. It's
Speaker 1: called look it up crazy, look like Bollywood at the time.
Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, that car. That car was more expensive
Speaker 1: than a Bugatti at that time. But you couldn't even
Speaker 1: get that in the United States because the specs didn't
Speaker 1: match the US standards. So I bought it fluid to
Speaker 1: Canada and then drove it into the States. That's how
Speaker 1: I got it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the troopers from Canada let you in. They said,
Speaker 2: that's a car.
Speaker 1: Let to them now, don't care papers to get in.
Speaker 1: They like, that's a nice cars.
Speaker 2: A lot of criminals. Canada is like so far away, right,
Speaker 2: I know, Drake you yeah, Drake, Drake got the pull.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because even now today, when I go into Canada,
Speaker 1: I have to fill out the whole I gotta leave
Speaker 1: a bond, all that craziness.
Speaker 2: Wait, a bond, a fifty.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars bond to make sure I don't start no trouble.
Speaker 3: And if I come in with no problems and they
Speaker 3: give me the money back and it's all from my
Speaker 3: like twenty twenty four, twenty five year old record from
Speaker 3: a record, yeah from twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Bro like, but not a music record. No, like, like
Speaker 1: you're right right, oh your record. Yeah, they go back
Speaker 1: into your priors, just your arrest record, and they're using
Speaker 1: that against you now. Oh yeah yeah, but you get
Speaker 1: in all the time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but you got to go through the whole process,
Speaker 3: getting lawyer, do the paperwork.
Speaker 1: Really, that's fuck no, yeah, Canada don't play.
Speaker 2: That's fucked up. Yeah, and they make you leave a
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars deposit.
Speaker 1: Ye'll leave fift thousand dollars bar.
Speaker 2: You don't smoke or get get drunk, you forget your
Speaker 2: fifty thousands.
Speaker 1: I just make the promoter pay for it. Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 2: That means I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you never your boys is never around. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: hey car, here's some blood.
Speaker 3: No, of course, everybody hung around with smoke weed. Everybody
Speaker 3: you never smoke. I used to love the smell of it.
Speaker 3: I just couldn't smoke it.
Speaker 2: Never smoked.
Speaker 3: It was for religious purposes though, Okay, yeah, that's why
Speaker 3: I never smoked.
Speaker 1: Drinking religious purposes.
Speaker 3: Well, but even if I had a chance to drink
Speaker 3: after that accidental shot, I would never do it.
Speaker 2: Again, never ever.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, So, if you had one thing you would say
Speaker 6: that you regret doing that you would have done differently.
Speaker 1: In the industry, what would it be? Oh? Nothing, actually,
Speaker 1: nothing at all.
Speaker 3: I feel like everything that you go through is for
Speaker 3: a purpose of like, I don't believe, I don't believe
Speaker 3: in mistakes.
Speaker 6: All right, Okay, so let me rephrase it so someone
Speaker 6: could learn from it. What did you do that seemed
Speaker 6: like a mistake, but that you learned the biggest lesson from.
Speaker 1: Let me think that seemed like a mistake, but I
Speaker 1: learned the biggest lesson from.
Speaker 3: Getting arrested thousand absolutely, Because you know what's interesting was
Speaker 3: that was my turning point. That was honestly the turning
Speaker 3: point for my life because just sitting in the box
Speaker 3: that long, I was able to see my future. I
Speaker 3: was able to say, Okay, damn, is this what I
Speaker 3: want for myself for the rest of my life. This
Speaker 3: cannot be out this this, this can't be my life
Speaker 3: like he just can't. And that's when I created my
Speaker 3: tenure plan on what I was gonna do when I
Speaker 3: get out to make sure I never come back in here.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So convey music was started while I was in jail.
Speaker 3: You know, I had an older old g ain't boonie.
Speaker 3: He was actually older. He was on his way to
Speaker 3: death row. He had killed his wife. Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 3: was the real He was just connecting through, like passing through,
Speaker 3: you know, and he was like, man, with all this talent, Like,
Speaker 3: just imagine if you harness all that energy towards something positive.
Speaker 3: Just think about it, because half the people in here
Speaker 3: they were successful at doing dumb shit, like really, but
Speaker 3: then once you get.
Speaker 1: Popped, all of it is over all that time, all
Speaker 1: that thought, all.
Speaker 3: That process, all that energy putting into something that you're
Speaker 3: growing in.
Speaker 1: You can't even keep it. You gotta watch it back,
Speaker 1: like what's what's like?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 3: But imagine not finding something that you good at and
Speaker 3: it's putting all that energy into that. Everything goes good
Speaker 3: for you after that. When I thought about that, I said, man,
Speaker 3: you know what, You're right? I said, the only thing
Speaker 3: I could do now is music.
Speaker 2: That's why you don't believe in no mistakes.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in no mistakes. I believe that everything
Speaker 1: happens for a purpose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's some everything happens for you to learn from it,
Speaker 3: or it's a process or an obstacle you have to
Speaker 3: pass through to get to what your final destination is
Speaker 3: or to get to your purpose. But I feel like
Speaker 3: everything is set up for you to deal with that
Speaker 3: and you if you ain't at your purpose and the
Speaker 3: obstacles you're dealing with.
Speaker 1: Is to prepare you for that moment. So I don't
Speaker 1: believe there's no mistakes. You know that exists. Do you
Speaker 1: feel your the Acon City is your ultimate purpose?
Speaker 3: I think developing Africa is my ultimate purpose, but I
Speaker 3: think Acon City is the beginning of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of Africa, all of Africa as much as
Speaker 1: I possibly can. Right, that's just you putting the example
Speaker 1: for the for the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm abound around a little bit because like the
Speaker 2: one thing I was loving going through your disography is
Speaker 2: just like it's just a global music. Like when you
Speaker 2: go in the studio, is you trying to please everybody?
Speaker 2: Because you have those records that actually please every race,
Speaker 2: every color, creed, whatever, Like you you have like a
Speaker 2: universal music. If I you know cancer, is that something
Speaker 2: that you do on purpose or it's just it depends
Speaker 2: on how you make the beat, like describe.
Speaker 3: It depends on how I feel that day, like I
Speaker 3: make music according to how I feel, but I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't stagnate my music relating or box it up
Speaker 3: within genres, like I just know what I just if
Speaker 3: it feels good to me, I know it's gonna feel
Speaker 3: good to millions of other people. So I never put
Speaker 3: myself in a position where, Okay, if I feel good,
Speaker 3: I gotta make a feel good hip hop record or
Speaker 3: feel good country record or feel good R and B record.
Speaker 1: I just make what feels good.
Speaker 3: To me at that moment, and I just allow it
Speaker 3: to be what it is, like I don't try to
Speaker 3: manage your change it to be what I think it
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 1: I just allowed it to be.
Speaker 3: And then, like I said, records is always gonna find
Speaker 3: his own audience. Just put it out in the audience
Speaker 3: will find it.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, because I remember being the studio
Speaker 2: for a ral for so long and me like working
Speaker 2: on my records and him other artists coming to see him,
Speaker 2: and other artists will be like, yo, man, I want
Speaker 2: to beat like this right, and I want a song
Speaker 2: like this, And I remember he would.
Speaker 1: I don't blame him, I'm just like him, So I just.
Speaker 3: Say okay, I just say okay by the time the
Speaker 3: song is done, but they still loving because one thing
Speaker 3: I realized about artists, as long as they are a
Speaker 3: part of the process making, they're gonna love it because
Speaker 3: it's really them just expressing. So when they come and say, well,
Speaker 3: I want to record, I want. I want the record
Speaker 3: like R Kelly record I want, I'm like, but yeah,
Speaker 3: but you're not R Kelly. Number one that R Kelly
Speaker 3: came because R Kelly wrote that record according to his experience.
Speaker 3: What is your experience that can make R Kelly say
Speaker 3: I want a nory type of record.
Speaker 1: That's what we want to find today. Man, you know what,
Speaker 1: You're right bro? All right, well let's get to it, nigga,
Speaker 1: what it is, what we're doing. What's the topic?
Speaker 2: Girls?
Speaker 3: Love, hatred? What Let's figure it out. Then from now,
Speaker 3: it's a conversation, you know what I'm saying. The conversation
Speaker 3: will always dictate the title of the song. Once you
Speaker 3: got the title, everything else is easy.
Speaker 2: To Let me ask you, if you're writing a record
Speaker 2: for somebody, is it a process that you happen to
Speaker 2: hang with them? Can you write a record for somebody
Speaker 2: that you don't know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can.
Speaker 3: I do it all the time, but I'm just shooting
Speaker 3: in the dark, okay, And is it better when you
Speaker 3: do know them? It's a lot better when you know
Speaker 3: them or y'all had communication, because then I can better understand.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 3: I like to make reality records, records that fit the
Speaker 3: person that's singing it, or records that they can relate
Speaker 3: to themselves, because it makes them want comfortable exactly and
Speaker 3: love the record, and they'll perform it better, they'll push
Speaker 3: it better. Like you know, when you got something that
Speaker 3: you love, you actually engage, right, So the idea is
Speaker 3: give them something that they I think that they would,
Speaker 3: that fits something within their life that they can attach
Speaker 3: themselves to. So the conversation always works. But if not,
Speaker 3: it'd be like, okay, cool, well you know what kind
Speaker 3: of feel are you looking for? Just get basic information.
Speaker 3: Once I got it, then I know. Because most people look,
Speaker 3: you gotta worry about what they're not telling you. Like,
Speaker 3: one thing about the music business is that everybody's going
Speaker 3: through something. The problem is nobody will tell you what
Speaker 3: they're going through because they have this image that they
Speaker 3: have to always portray to be bigger than the average. Right,
Speaker 3: they pretend they have no problems. Everything is all good.
Speaker 3: But those are the ones I know going through some shit.
Speaker 3: But if they come and they spill it out, oh man,
Speaker 3: she just fucked up. That's an easy one because I
Speaker 3: know I just got to I know what that is.
Speaker 3: I just gotta to give them something the lift, right.
Speaker 3: But the ones that come, man, everything all good, a
Speaker 3: million chains billy ourselves.
Speaker 1: Man, life is good. I give them a struggle record.
Speaker 1: The niggas be in there like crime. I know. All
Speaker 1: these bells and whistles is to distract me from what
Speaker 1: you're really dealing with.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's what it is. Everybody.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 1: You how many niggas that you see?
Speaker 3: They just look rich as fuck going through and you man, man, man,
Speaker 3: I want to God to tell me how you're doing this. Man, Like,
Speaker 3: give me some advice, man, some success. They give you
Speaker 3: all the advice and you'll listen and be like, man,
Speaker 3: that's what's up.
Speaker 1: A week later they calling you for a loan, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be behind an excuse. Well, you know, man,
Speaker 1: my fucking business magic fucked on my taxes and ship man,
Speaker 1: I got the bro, don't worry about its all good.
Speaker 1: Here you go you understand what I'm saying, Like they
Speaker 1: still even at the point of their bottom low, they
Speaker 1: still want to make it seem like they're still big.
Speaker 3: And it was a big obstacle that made them have
Speaker 3: to come to you. No one can just open their
Speaker 3: mind and be honest and transparent. Say yo, bro, this
Speaker 3: is wrong. This is wrong man, from your experience, how
Speaker 3: can I fix That's how you do it? Because guess
Speaker 3: what now, I might give you some information that never
Speaker 3: puts you there again, but you gotta be real with.
Speaker 1: Yourself, real talk. But we just it's hard for us,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. How about writing for a female.
Speaker 1: Females are very easy.
Speaker 3: Females to me, are easier to write for it than
Speaker 3: men because females are transparent.
Speaker 1: Okay, they super transparent.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: They don't even think about it when they say especial
Speaker 3: when they feel some kind of.
Speaker 2: Way, and when you write records for them that that
Speaker 2: they feeling.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're gonna sell it because they know emotion
Speaker 1: and record right. Emotional records always go good with females,
Speaker 1: okay always. And if it's gonna be an upbeat record,
Speaker 1: it got to be an upbeat record. That another female
Speaker 1: will be like, well, they'll be like, oh wait, does
Speaker 1: she hear this? That record has to make another woman jealous?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the records that tap into their feelings and emotions, yeah,
Speaker 3: those always go. That's why ballasts really work really well
Speaker 3: with women a lot. But if you're gonna do up
Speaker 3: tempo records, it should be something that has a ballody
Speaker 3: a topic, but yet an uptempo record that they can
Speaker 3: find themselves in a more happiest space.
Speaker 2: Could you write for Rihanna all Day one thousand?
Speaker 1: How about Beyonce? Super easy? And they said super easy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, super easy because Beyonce got the like right now
Speaker 3: would be when you look at the music that she's getting, Like,
Speaker 3: even with her, like when I listen to her music,
Speaker 3: I still feel like there's a lot more of her
Speaker 3: that we ain't tapping. As a writer, as a producer myself,
Speaker 3: and how I read people, I believe that there's so
Speaker 3: much that she wants to talk about on her records
Speaker 3: that she doesn't do it because of who she is
Speaker 3: and what she thinks people may think about her.
Speaker 1: That's just me personal speaking, right.
Speaker 3: I think the records that she's making today are records
Speaker 3: that she just feel the younger generation will gravitate to.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's the essence of what that is.
Speaker 1: And you're saying that lyrically and vocally, But what about production?
Speaker 1: Was production is following the lyrics.
Speaker 3: It's just following the person that's hot at the moment,
Speaker 3: a person that submits a great song.
Speaker 1: But it's so like I see her bigger.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel I see her as almost like a
Speaker 3: musical or artistry, like because you know, prophets come in
Speaker 3: different forms, yes, like for feminine and other. She's their
Speaker 3: profit to me, to them because she speaks into their minds,
Speaker 3: into their hearts. Like you can't say anything wrong about
Speaker 3: Beyonce to a Beyonce fan, No, that gives you a responsibility.
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying, Like, there's certain Beyonce records
Speaker 3: that changes people's outlook in life, and she has the
Speaker 3: potential to do that if she goes there, if she
Speaker 3: decides to go there, because I personal believe that she
Speaker 3: will eventually go there. Right now, she's bigger than life.
Speaker 3: She can't get no bigger. But there's nowhere else left to.
Speaker 2: Go with her.
Speaker 1: She's the top of the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe so, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: rightly so, because she's a hard fucking worker. From what
Speaker 3: I know and what I've seen from the district, you
Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying. Like nobody, she's the best that
Speaker 3: ever did it. But me personally as a fan, I
Speaker 3: would want to see her get deeper, like challenge herself
Speaker 3: more from a musical standpoint, like go in places where
Speaker 3: even she ain't there to go, just do it because
Speaker 3: I believe she has the capability to do that.
Speaker 1: Who else somebody do you think there has capabilities to
Speaker 1: do that and hasn't reached it, that hasn't reached it.
Speaker 1: I think Chris Brown has that. Oh wow, I think
Speaker 1: Chris Brown has it all day.
Speaker 2: But you think that he does not getting He's not
Speaker 2: tapping into hiss.
Speaker 3: No, he's tapping into his emotions. I just think he's
Speaker 3: tapped into the wrong frequency.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I think the frequency that he's tapped into won't allow
Speaker 3: him to grow beyond who he is because he's surrounded
Speaker 3: by so many distractions, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 3: I think for what he does and what he represents
Speaker 3: to the this culture. From a performer from an artist
Speaker 3: from a vocalist.
Speaker 1: He got what it takes. He just got to be
Speaker 1: He's fearless already.
Speaker 2: We've seen him on Lovers and Friends. This month, I
Speaker 2: had to show and he had to show. I saw.
Speaker 2: I got to see him on the stage. Boy, he
Speaker 2: told because the problem, Yeah he goes and like I
Speaker 2: knew he went in, but actually that's my first time
Speaker 2: kind of like got to see.
Speaker 3: It, right, Like he's a problem. But the good thing
Speaker 3: about Chris that he got plenty of time because he's young.
Speaker 3: So this is also gathering all those voices, all the
Speaker 3: you know, souls that he needs to be able, you know,
Speaker 3: influence in a certain kind of way.
Speaker 1: I just feel like when God gives you that much
Speaker 1: power to.
Speaker 3: Influence or be influenced by so many different people, that
Speaker 3: that that that is always like a responsibility to find
Speaker 3: somewhere to to define all the challenges that's in society.
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying, Like, I just don't believe
Speaker 3: that we who we are.
Speaker 1: For just the sake of just being who we are.
Speaker 3: I believe that we're chosen to be who we are
Speaker 3: right until we understand what our purpose is. That's when
Speaker 3: we that's when we become impactful.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 2: So that's talking about I still kill with fifty real quick? Right,
Speaker 2: how did that come about? Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, fifty that called me with that one? Fifty called
Speaker 1: me with that and say, yokn.
Speaker 2: So he produced that one.
Speaker 3: No, no, he got it was another producer on it
Speaker 3: under his camp that actually did that one, ok, And
Speaker 3: he was like, Yo, kN listen, I got this record, bro,
Speaker 3: you know what, just call me back after you hear it.
Speaker 1: He sent me. I heard the verses her to beat.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is crazy, and I'm listening
Speaker 2: to the lyrics.
Speaker 3: I'm already knowing what he's saying without saying it because
Speaker 3: at this point the niggas he just sold vitamin water.
Speaker 1: This nigga two hundred and fifty million dollar niggas like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: don't get it fucked, you know what It's like that,
Speaker 1: It's like, how do we say that when niggas know
Speaker 1: I'm not playing with him perform too? Right?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I sent it back with the chorus on it,
Speaker 3: and he was like, Nigga, this is it, Oh, this
Speaker 3: is it. But at the time I was kind of
Speaker 3: worried about where we would go because even me, my, my,
Speaker 3: I was so pop at that time. The question was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we'll still be believable.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: No, that's one thing I do question myself a lot,
Speaker 3: what like when to go back to the street or
Speaker 3: if ever do I even need to go back to
Speaker 3: the street?
Speaker 1: Right, that's ever? No, no, no hold on, listen, no, no, listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about physically, no reason for me being
Speaker 1: the hood. All my hood niggas know they got to
Speaker 1: come see me. I'm not going there, bro, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that this already.
Speaker 3: But from a musical standpoint, the question is because I
Speaker 3: always believe that my role plays a responsibility to them.
Speaker 3: That was why I was raising that environment to make
Speaker 3: a difference. Right, So the only way to actually make
Speaker 3: an impact is to find a way to still tap in.
Speaker 1: But you can't just go and forget about it, Like
Speaker 1: is if you don't give a fuck, you understand I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like there has to be a sense of knowing, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a role that they're still there for me to
Speaker 1: play that they won't take for granted.
Speaker 3: Now they take it for granted, then you can't really
Speaker 3: control what other people's decisions decided to make. But for
Speaker 3: the most part, you know you did your part right.
Speaker 3: So when I say go back to the streets, I'm
Speaker 3: always talking music. You know what I'm saying. Musically, you can,
Speaker 3: but I think my topic matter ain't gonna be what
Speaker 3: they want to hear, So you gotta wait for the
Speaker 3: right time to give it to them. Because I feel
Speaker 3: like the music an urban rap is lacking the message
Speaker 3: everybody scared. Like to me, when I listen to music,
Speaker 3: it sound like everybody scared to death because it's like
Speaker 3: this conc cansel culture comes from just being indecisive and
Speaker 3: not making up your own mind. You're letting somebody else
Speaker 3: tell you what you think should be relevant and what's not.
Speaker 1: That just tells me that the world at this specific thing,
Speaker 1: this specific thing.
Speaker 3: When the music, it sounds like everybody's scared to death,
Speaker 3: because what I know from the street is that when
Speaker 3: somebody's afraid, they're gonna do something to distract you from
Speaker 3: you thinking that they're afraid. Right, And when somebody feel
Speaker 3: like that you may be a threat, it's like it's
Speaker 3: like a possum when you pull up on it, a
Speaker 3: porcupine when you pull up on it and all this
Speaker 3: what's the name is pop? You don't want to tap
Speaker 3: into it because you might get stung. So gets over
Speaker 3: when the niggas the first thing they do when they
Speaker 3: get scared. Oh, nigga, you'a got that for real, But
Speaker 3: you're not realizing that his chest is being way harder
Speaker 3: than yours.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. So when I listen to
Speaker 1: the music, that's what it's getting from me.
Speaker 3: You got a whole bunch of young guys, super well
Speaker 3: POTENTI like the future in front of them, all of them,
Speaker 3: but they all scared to death because of Unfortunately, it's
Speaker 3: it's our fault because we introduced that kind of music
Speaker 3: that made it cool, right, So now when they see
Speaker 3: themselves in real life, they have to live up to
Speaker 3: that because if they don't and social media, so what
Speaker 3: happens is now they're active in the life that they
Speaker 3: don't really understand outside of the music side of that world.
Speaker 3: And this is why you got so many young rappers
Speaker 3: dying because they're making so many mistakes out.
Speaker 1: Of fear.
Speaker 2: To what you said you was on when and they
Speaker 2: said that the.
Speaker 1: Sweet escape, Sweet escape to us.
Speaker 2: Gwen Stefani. Yeah, and you said, who try to horizon?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was the first kind of
Speaker 2: step of people get into this castle coach of things?
Speaker 3: Do you think not really, because there's been many companies
Speaker 3: I've always done. Companies always pull out their sponsorship.
Speaker 1: Controversy.
Speaker 3: You know, you make an action, but they don't realize
Speaker 3: if it doesn't have anything to do with what they're
Speaker 3: sponsoring you for, they should just leave it alone. What
Speaker 3: human do you know ain't gonna make a mistake, especially
Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with their occupation, Like, this
Speaker 3: is their job, this is what they do. Great, they
Speaker 3: did some of the personal life that has nothing to
Speaker 3: do with this, But yeah, you want to cancel them
Speaker 3: because you were afraid of what other people are saying
Speaker 3: of his personal action, and I think that's unfair.
Speaker 2: Or even Adidas taking Kanye back they have no choice.
Speaker 2: Do he make no noise for that? You spoke about
Speaker 2: Beautiful earlier in the HAGH cut you off right, So
Speaker 2: where was you at? What was the process of making
Speaker 2: this record? Yeah, Beautiful was a process, honestly, that was
Speaker 2: that was what my.
Speaker 1: With my wife, you know, she she always you know,
Speaker 1: that's that was around the time when I was peaking,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And everywhere I go, you know, this is your career. Yeah,
Speaker 3: my career video shoots is always beautiful women. Every event
Speaker 3: is always beautiful women. So there's always that insecurity that
Speaker 3: comes within women when you when they.
Speaker 1: See that and everybody see it either.
Speaker 2: Way, she sees you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that song was inspired by just you know, my
Speaker 3: conversations to her, like you me like you mine number one,
Speaker 3: without doubt, don't ever in your life think that anything
Speaker 3: is better than you, like the most beautiful thing in
Speaker 3: the world, period.
Speaker 1: So that record was her she needs to know that.
Speaker 1: Let's ticket to Who That Girl? I think I got
Speaker 1: a few titles with Who That Girl? Which one was
Speaker 1: with the one you want?
Speaker 3: Was that the one Flow Riders? That's right, that's wont Flo.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was the biggest one. Yeah, yeah, that's so
Speaker 3: that one Me and Flow, which is waiting for the
Speaker 3: right time to work.
Speaker 1: Man, for sure.
Speaker 3: Like and Flow is like my brother from another mother.
Speaker 3: Like we super super super tight, and we had never
Speaker 3: worked together because of our schedules, but we was always
Speaker 3: bumping to each other and one day he was like, man,
Speaker 3: look everything you're doing cancel what you got going. We
Speaker 3: saw each other in Miami, I mean in l A,
Speaker 3: and I was like, let's let's just go do it,
Speaker 3: because if we don't take make the time, it's not
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And sure enough we cut the record in Miami and
Speaker 1: shot the video in l A. Goddamn, how was the video?
Speaker 1: Vibes vibes, big big record, big big record? You know?
Speaker 2: Smoking ukah, Where we get where we get this.
Speaker 1: A get dot com? Get uka? Oh, okay, get interesting
Speaker 1: now very smart?
Speaker 2: Actually smoke you smokes show no, no, no, you don't smoke.
Speaker 1: Ship. My voice is my investment.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yes, you don't destroy and.
Speaker 2: Drink a lot of tea. You gotta drink a lot
Speaker 2: of tea. Yeah, what's on your rider?
Speaker 1: My ride is very simple. Actually, I got black towels,
Speaker 1: only black towers. Yeah, black towns.
Speaker 2: You said towns. I said they got they gotta they
Speaker 2: gotta gotta construction.
Speaker 1: You said black towns.
Speaker 2: You gotta reconstruct your whole ship to make the oilers
Speaker 2: black ty. It's very simple. You have black towns.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. You said, black towels, okayas.
Speaker 3: And the reason it is because the normal time. When
Speaker 3: you get off the stage, you're always super sweaty. And
Speaker 3: I used to have these white towels and I'll be
Speaker 3: white white.
Speaker 2: I learned that from girls. Girls, the girls when they
Speaker 2: go to like my wife and them when they go
Speaker 2: to restaurant, that's actually black.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What else is on your rider? Juicer?
Speaker 1: A juicer, A juicer with a little bunch of different fruits,
Speaker 1: because I like to make juices and all that.
Speaker 2: My wife holds the juice bar I could have. Bring.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna live the next one. I need when
Speaker 2: when when you when they said that you wanted a candle,
Speaker 2: I said, this nigga different?
Speaker 1: Who told you I want to get many? No?
Speaker 2: No, that was that was so fly. I said, make
Speaker 2: sure you're gonna get that. Get that like I sit
Speaker 2: in candle. That's some flysh What else is on yours?
Speaker 3: To burn off the spirits? Okay, no for the most part.
Speaker 3: So you got you got the juicer, You got the
Speaker 3: white towel.
Speaker 2: I love candy, all right, so different to a balance,
Speaker 2: hold hold on juice.
Speaker 6: He just said that je give me the healthy ship
Speaker 6: and give.
Speaker 1: Me the sugar.
Speaker 2: What do the vegetables? That's why I still what are
Speaker 2: you putting the juice? What kind of fruit?
Speaker 1: Fruits?
Speaker 3: It depends on what fruits. I'm like, every territory has
Speaker 3: their fruit.
Speaker 6: Y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're traveling the world sometimes exact whatever.
Speaker 2: That's kind of smart. That's kind of smart. Whatever the season,
Speaker 2: you know, season, sparing season, you know, things like that.
Speaker 3: So that's that's like the best way to go. And
Speaker 3: then last but not least, if can kind of candy
Speaker 3: dog just different sort of candies like Skittles, Gummy.
Speaker 2: Bess, Twitter and make him put out just the rad Skittles.
Speaker 1: No, I've heard stories like that, they like I want
Speaker 1: already Eminem's and ship Yeah, who was that?
Speaker 2: I heard that.
Speaker 1: I've been heard a lot of those kind of artists
Speaker 1: do exist, though.
Speaker 2: Listen, that's the part of the show. We're going to
Speaker 2: ask people they ride like they ride because.
Speaker 1: You actually have listen.
Speaker 2: Listen listen by the way for the show. No no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no, for this your regular Because I always
Speaker 2: love like when I we interview. We've been doing it
Speaker 2: seven years seven plus. I always love. My favorite part
Speaker 2: is me asking them what they're gonna drink, because like
Speaker 2: I'm straight up judge you from what you're gonna drink.
Speaker 2: If a person order old English, I know what kind
Speaker 2: of show this is going to be if they.
Speaker 1: Order it depends on if they order back bar zonals.
Speaker 1: When we ask someone and they give us a.
Speaker 2: Whole writer of liquor, oh yeah, yeah, did That's.
Speaker 6: Been a couple of people they order like the four
Speaker 6: thousand dollars bottle of this, We're like, sorry, really.
Speaker 1: Got the rocketing. No.
Speaker 2: But even though even though like like if a person
Speaker 2: order a tequila or whatever, we don't tell them. We
Speaker 2: ain't giving them that. We just gonna get here. We
Speaker 2: give them same. But I always always like, uh, and
Speaker 2: Riders is the same exact thing, because I remember me
Speaker 2: being in I remember me being in Japan and I
Speaker 2: came after l L so l L must have been
Speaker 2: he must have been he the word is he had
Speaker 2: them looking for green apples.
Speaker 1: I guess in that part of Japan that didn't exist.
Speaker 2: But they didn't want to tell No.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but I remember the promoter.
Speaker 2: Like would get created. I was with Edible pain on
Speaker 2: my rider was fucking larch. It was wack back then.
Speaker 2: I booked you through Violet the first time I violated.
Speaker 2: We were putting all that ship on my rider.
Speaker 1: You know, some of them. You got to consolidate them.
Speaker 1: What is on your right? What's your wildest thing on
Speaker 1: your right? Like KFC KFC, but you was gonna have
Speaker 1: a leopard or something. I don't have nothing. Person, I
Speaker 1: can't see you. Gotta drink some waters.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's because I'm being along.
Speaker 2: I can't see candy. You gotta you all over the place.
Speaker 2: I gotta get with your homies. I gotta get with
Speaker 2: your homie. Gonna see Fat Joe don't don't drink none
Speaker 2: of that, right, So let me tell you something. If
Speaker 2: you ever were on a Fat Joe show and you
Speaker 2: drink alcohol, just go in his room and take it off.
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna drink none of when he drinks, he
Speaker 2: orders it all. I'm like, we was in Vegas with
Speaker 2: the other day. I was like, my brother, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take it off. I'm going to a club. This is
Speaker 2: my first time in like fifteen years I went to
Speaker 2: a club and I spent a dollar like not even
Speaker 2: not even like I had to tip the waitress.
Speaker 1: It's all there already.
Speaker 2: We just grabbed the sit and was like, is it okay?
Speaker 1: We go to our room.
Speaker 2: He's like ahead.
Speaker 1: We literally took his whole bar his home and guess
Speaker 1: what drinking all that is?
Speaker 2: Wild on your ride?
Speaker 1: No? No, not like okay? Cool?
Speaker 2: What's on your rider?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, rider, you ain't gotta I got anything?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: For our Vegas show, did.
Speaker 2: You like large brow Bacardi fireball?
Speaker 1: What do we eat that with me? And something that
Speaker 1: you gotta have your Yeah, I'm pescatarian yea and him prescotarian.
Speaker 6: I can do that.
Speaker 2: All pescantarian do that. That's that's Sunday joke. That's Sundays joke, Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 2: for both day baby. And you said your favorite part
Speaker 2: is Africa to perform. What is your favorite state in
Speaker 2: America to perform?
Speaker 1: Uh? Probably city? Favorite city probably Jersey.
Speaker 2: I was hoping you said Jersey. I was hoping you
Speaker 2: said Jersey. Got Now we gotta address this. French Montana
Speaker 2: has not let this go. We see you walk in
Speaker 2: with the that's the panther cardier them bracelets them trust
Speaker 2: me guys out of this roof and you can't even
Speaker 2: get these you got it on. You have to protect
Speaker 2: Are you ever gonna give French a watch so he
Speaker 2: could stop telling this story until you eating it out.
Speaker 1: Listen, me and French got got that day that lost money.
Speaker 2: I walked to the watch for me because he case it.
Speaker 1: Man, that's a nice watch, I said, Nigga, I got
Speaker 1: on for you too, because at the time.
Speaker 2: You had yours.
Speaker 3: See, this is the thing. I didn't know what a
Speaker 3: huge blow was. I just knew that I liked that.
Speaker 3: That was just a nice watch. So the dude was,
Speaker 3: you know, selling watches, and I said, how much is
Speaker 3: that watch? And he's like, you don't normally like fifteen
Speaker 3: twenty thousand, he said, but I got a guy that
Speaker 3: can get his Swiss for five. I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: give me three of them. So he met me at
Speaker 3: the W Hotel with.
Speaker 1: To of the watches, the exact Time Square hotel, Time
Speaker 1: Square w Hotel.
Speaker 3: With the same exact type watches. Now mind you, I'm
Speaker 3: not knowing the details. I just know that watch looked
Speaker 3: like the one that.
Speaker 1: I liked in the jewelry store. That's all I know.
Speaker 1: I'm not into watches at the time. I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you in the jewelry store, you see the watches,
Speaker 2: this guy says you a I could give you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't spend that money. I got you.
Speaker 2: This is not Canal Street.
Speaker 1: It was Canal Street.
Speaker 2: No, but listen, listen, listen, listen. I was on your side.
Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing. This is the thing. The watch.
Speaker 1: The watch wasn't street.
Speaker 3: I spotted the one that I liked on Canal Street
Speaker 3: and it was on the Chinese side with the good ship.
Speaker 1: No, the good ship, you know, can I got two sids. Ok,
Speaker 1: and you're not the one that goes through the back
Speaker 1: room and do all that, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a good side. So Danny said, no,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna meet your the hotel. So he got me
Speaker 3: to the hotel and he showed me like, oh he's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Now, mind you.
Speaker 1: I'm I don't have no knowledge of time pieces at
Speaker 1: the time. I'm just African. I just know what I
Speaker 1: like and I buy what I like.
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know. H blow is very difficult to tell.
Speaker 1: Though, But at that time I didn't even know even
Speaker 1: know what it was like.
Speaker 2: I just know I liked the shame of it looked nice.
Speaker 1: And he goes shaving ten thousand dollars off. Why not
Speaker 1: think about it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: So Mane, you didn't even say who blow on it?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I think about it. Ain't going on it.
Speaker 1: Before said blowing that mother? Right now I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 1: doing a Indeed, it's my nigga. I said, I'll fuck
Speaker 1: with you, nigga, don't I'm a nigga. I'm I look
Speaker 1: ye get for another nigga, right, I'm just this show you.
Speaker 3: I don't really fuck with you, right, So I got one.
Speaker 3: I said, I'm get my man one. So he comes
Speaker 3: to the hotel.
Speaker 2: Man, I watch is dope?
Speaker 1: Mank man, Nigga, I got one for you. He's happy.
Speaker 1: We both walking out like we nigga.
Speaker 2: We chilling the whole day.
Speaker 1: Nigga and be like this, we're looking for Rick, We're
Speaker 1: looking for Dan. Show the walk.
Speaker 2: We're fixing the niggas can see what he got.
Speaker 1: So we go off.
Speaker 2: Everything is good. Nigga called me a week later, Yo, Bro,
Speaker 2: I said, what's up?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 2: The watch me? I said what he said?
Speaker 1: Man, that shit ain't real? I said, yes it is?
Speaker 1: He said, I said, what's wrong? The what does this
Speaker 1: stop working?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: Did the hair stopped taking or something? He said, Nah,
Speaker 2: the ship.
Speaker 1: Taking is working.
Speaker 2: I said, nigga, this is it's real. He said no,
Speaker 2: he said, Nigga, I thought this was h blow. I said,
Speaker 2: what's that? He said, Nigga, you ain't know this is
Speaker 2: a fake. He blow.
Speaker 1: I said, what is it?
Speaker 2: Hue blow?
Speaker 1: So then I said, let me start looking around.
Speaker 2: Then I saw it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, this is the watch that
Speaker 1: I saw at the store. This ship costs this much.
Speaker 1: Then I was like, damn, bro, he said, ship, my
Speaker 1: bad man. Look, just just just keep it as a
Speaker 1: token of my appreciation.
Speaker 2: Bro. It has been. It hasn't been subliminal.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 2: I kept wearing mine, nig I can't wear I got something.
Speaker 1: Compliments come here.
Speaker 3: I got so many compliments on that thing. Oh man,
Speaker 3: not but me and you know, me and French laughing
Speaker 3: about that ship every day. So now he's like, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, when youre gonna go, you're gonna
Speaker 3: get me a new watch.
Speaker 1: I said, nigga, what I gave you.
Speaker 2: You need to be watching. You need to be buying
Speaker 2: meal washing ship. So so was he actually signed to you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So so he was. So French was signed to me.
Speaker 1: And my thing was I wanted to go international. With
Speaker 1: him right. So at that time, French was just making
Speaker 1: afro beats back then, not afrobeats.
Speaker 3: But just more commercial acrossover and eventually take him to
Speaker 3: Africa because my whole thing.
Speaker 1: The French was like, bro, you African, nigga, you're from Morocco,
Speaker 1: Like do you know? Yeah, so when you leave America,
Speaker 1: everybody without a doubt. I don't know about that part.
Speaker 2: I apologize. You know what I'm saying. I said, nigga,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 7: This is it.
Speaker 3: So as we start going on, he's still making records,
Speaker 3: but more.
Speaker 1: For New York.
Speaker 3: So they came to me say, Yo, man, mean I
Speaker 3: think I want to just do I want to? I
Speaker 3: really want to base and make sure my my my
Speaker 3: my ship in New York is really cemented properly. So
Speaker 3: I think we should find a party that could work
Speaker 3: with us for New York. I said it was ship,
Speaker 3: think about somebody, let me know. And he's like, when
Speaker 3: you think about Diddy?
Speaker 1: I said, ship is that's the king of New York?
Speaker 1: Of course, why not? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So he was flying to.
Speaker 3: Vegas to go meet with Diddy and then when he
Speaker 3: got there, he put Diddy on the phone.
Speaker 1: Did He was like, Nigga, brown sugar. Will we be
Speaker 1: doing brown sugar?
Speaker 3: And he be calling me brown sugar, Niggo we doing, Nigga,
Speaker 3: we be doing. I said, man, listen, this kid right
Speaker 3: here to me is the biggest thing for me in
Speaker 3: New York. And I can't take him where he's trying
Speaker 3: to go in New York. The only thing I could
Speaker 3: see is a partnership with you to put it off
Speaker 3: and pull that off. And he was like, man, listen,
Speaker 3: with your blessing, if you let me take this on,
Speaker 3: I got it. I said, man, let we go ahead,
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: And that's how we ended up moving. So how you
Speaker 1: started doing stuff with Diddy? Wow?
Speaker 3: Because I was always the kind of artist like, even
Speaker 3: though when I sign acts, I'm not the kind of
Speaker 3: artist that I want to find.
Speaker 1: The best way for you to go. Cause me, my
Speaker 1: goal is to make you bigger than me if I
Speaker 1: can do that.
Speaker 6: Was that something you learned off of Jimmy and Ivan
Speaker 6: saying this was before Jimmy, Oh, this before this was
Speaker 6: just me seeing how like executives look.
Speaker 1: When one of theirs is huge, it makes you look
Speaker 1: like a genius.
Speaker 3: Sometimes the artist could be humongous but I even all
Speaker 3: your involvement, but you're still going to get the credit
Speaker 3: because of the fact that you put the person out
Speaker 3: into the marketplace.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I always looked at as I always looked at
Speaker 3: it from a leveraging standpoint, because I always saw music
Speaker 3: as a stepping stone or a bridge to get to
Speaker 3: the real business.
Speaker 1: So people that's around me have to be attached.
Speaker 3: That they have to be successful for me to have
Speaker 3: these pitches taken seriously, you know, because now they're looking
Speaker 3: at my track record in the in the in the
Speaker 3: sector at which I'm actually active in.
Speaker 1: Ok Is he successful there? Okay? Cool? So clearly he
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, how can we use that to break this
Speaker 3: brand or partner with this brand, or take this piece
Speaker 3: of label to the next level?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Right right?
Speaker 2: If right now, right? I know you told me the
Speaker 2: places to go on Africa, But if I wanted to
Speaker 2: invest in the Africa, right, what's what are some of
Speaker 2: the things that I should look to.
Speaker 3: The first thing you should invest in, and I think
Speaker 3: that should be everybody's focus is real estate. Real estate,
Speaker 3: How super easy, super super easy but you don't want
Speaker 3: to invest from here. You want to go there, so
Speaker 3: you physically go there, physically go there like that's like
Speaker 3: if you're gonna just do it by sitting here, you
Speaker 3: might just go to Vegas and just toss your money
Speaker 3: in the casino.
Speaker 1: Got Because the thing is with investment, you got to
Speaker 1: know what you're investing in.
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to see the land, see the potential,
Speaker 3: see the areas that's growing, that's moving in that direction.
Speaker 3: Real estate is very it's mathematical, but you also have
Speaker 3: to have information through certain people to know which direction
Speaker 3: the development is headed, and that's the.
Speaker 1: Area where you want to be. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to go right where the.
Speaker 3: Investment is actually building now, but the development is going
Speaker 3: in that direction in the next two three years you
Speaker 3: can get that's what you get it at that level.
Speaker 1: So by the time it get there, they have to
Speaker 1: come see you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You can either be a part of in the development
Speaker 3: or you can sell it out for five six times
Speaker 3: multiple on what you purchase it for, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But land right now is the best place
Speaker 3: to start in Africa because everybody in the globe is
Speaker 3: investing in Africa and it's all coming into development. So
Speaker 3: if you can acquire the land before they get to it, man,
Speaker 3: you're golden for the rest of your life.
Speaker 6: Does that help Africans for people from outside to.
Speaker 1: Invest it and buying land.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because it creates an economy, It creates jobs, It
Speaker 3: creates more opportunities for even them to be able to
Speaker 3: do things. Because we gotta think Africa in a big
Speaker 3: way is lacking resources. So if people don't come creating
Speaker 3: or bringing resources there, it's gonna be on standstill. Right,
Speaker 3: So it benefits, it's Africa's Yes, it benefits. Then when
Speaker 3: people come and invest and create opportunity.
Speaker 2: How about it be like I'm a condo guy, I
Speaker 2: don't really.
Speaker 1: Like how right? Which is even better? Actually condos go
Speaker 1: even quicker.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, man, listen in Senegal right now, you can't
Speaker 3: find just the land to build a condo in the
Speaker 3: city for seven.
Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty thousand acre. Wow.
Speaker 2: That's an acre.
Speaker 3: Wow, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars per acre. And
Speaker 3: that's just the land by self before the condo's up.
Speaker 3: Once the condo's up, they starting at a million dollars
Speaker 3: each wow. And that's the person that was buying land
Speaker 3: at the time when we was buying land. Now look
Speaker 3: where they're at with it.
Speaker 2: Like everyone is moving to Puerto Rico right now because
Speaker 2: the tax break. Is there a place in Africa where
Speaker 2: there's a tax bak like people have that, do bay?
Speaker 2: I believe too as.
Speaker 1: We listen, everywhere in Africa is a tax break. Ain't
Speaker 1: no tax.
Speaker 2: To keep your money there because if you bring it
Speaker 2: over here then you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna have to pay.
Speaker 3: But that's I mean, that's I mean, that's just you know,
Speaker 3: whoever is your CFO, they'll tell you exactly how to
Speaker 3: move your money around. But I think the continent product
Speaker 3: right now, in the near future, it's the most safest
Speaker 3: way to park your money. And it's gonna be I mean,
Speaker 3: that's where everybody's going. Everywhere else, everybody's afraid trying to
Speaker 3: pull their money out so they can be a.
Speaker 1: Freely spend it, right you know. Yeah, this is crazy, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So get to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting to it. So this the hottest spots again, Ghana,
Speaker 2: Nigeria right now.
Speaker 3: Ghana, Nigeria, Senegal, Rwanda, uh Kenya, Kenya is very hot
Speaker 3: right now. Cape verd beautiful islands. It's almost like the
Speaker 3: like the like the West, you know, Rhode Island, yep.
Speaker 2: So the caver is Africa like Tanzania, Tanzania.
Speaker 3: Super opportunities over there, without a doubt when it comes
Speaker 3: to real estate, housing, affordable living and amazing South Africa. Beautiful,
Speaker 3: beautiful bro beautiful houses, beautiful beaches and it's cheap. It's
Speaker 3: not even expensive to Cape Town is amazing and it's
Speaker 3: I mean the price point, bro man, whatever you spend
Speaker 3: in the Miami, if you see the house that you
Speaker 3: could buy with that sound beautiful bro on the water
Speaker 3: with the splashes of that water every morning.
Speaker 6: And Johanna's to me, it reminded me of like New
Speaker 6: York and the eighties, like the way that the metropolitan
Speaker 6: view of it is dope, beautiful, get staffed. No, no, no,
Speaker 6: I'm just saying no, you're right, You're right. I'm just saying,
Speaker 6: like the way that.
Speaker 3: I would give it more of a like Johannesburg is
Speaker 3: more like what is describing Cape Town is more like Venice, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, It's more of Italy in l a Venison, probably
Speaker 1: Venice in La Okay Venice in La Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: but they got the political needs. They got to deal
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: And I think that's everywhere. But I think as once
Speaker 3: should become a notable you know, like entrepreneur. Over those
Speaker 3: areas you get influenced, so politics don't really affect you,
Speaker 3: right because you get in bed with those guys to
Speaker 3: get to do business, you know, to help move policy
Speaker 3: forward for your agenda, their agendas, like it's all about
Speaker 3: you know, it's just business.
Speaker 6: Politicals And the people are amazing out there. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean I only been to South Africa, but the people
Speaker 6: were amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you opened a Drake Champs bar after that
Speaker 2: would be easy.
Speaker 3: That would be crazy only in South Africa though, because
Speaker 3: a lot of countries in Africa are Muslim, so those
Speaker 3: populations don't drink or smoke, right, they're doing in quiet
Speaker 3: or after our spots like that. But like any any
Speaker 3: areas like Uganda would be good for that, anywhere in
Speaker 3: South as Nigeria they drink out there, right, Nigeria would
Speaker 3: be good for that because Nigeria's split half.
Speaker 2: What's the place that they say, like they stay open
Speaker 2: almost twenty four hours and just keep partying, keeping Nigeria.
Speaker 1: Nigerian parties.
Speaker 2: That's Nigeria.
Speaker 3: Does it when it's time, like during festive festive.
Speaker 1: Moments and months. Okay, you know when people come from
Speaker 1: all over the world, they just be partying all night.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, oh man, I'm convinced.
Speaker 1: Hey man, you can watch my documentary Coming Home, so
Speaker 1: that I'm just saying, shame. I remember, I gotta watch
Speaker 1: that right now, I gotta watch that.
Speaker 2: I think I said this to you on the last episode.
Speaker 2: But I remember all the time getting shows in Africa
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 1: Turn them down.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you need you need this is way before that.
Speaker 2: You don't need it from Yeah, And that's how they
Speaker 2: always use to say that.
Speaker 1: I think it's a choice.
Speaker 3: Now I'm want to say something without signing of racist,
Speaker 3: but Blacks and Latinos don't need shots for Africa a right, really, yes,
Speaker 3: they already got DNA. White people is a little bit
Speaker 3: different because they more the temperature and the kind of
Speaker 3: things that their their skin and body can withstand. A
Speaker 3: lot of it won't survive in Africa, so they need
Speaker 3: shots to, you know, to kind of boost their immunes
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 6: But y'all straight, I mean, I definitely didn't take a
Speaker 6: shot when I went to South Africa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you won't need it.
Speaker 2: It was good, we ate good, we drank good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's true.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's like it's like when I go,
Speaker 1: like to the North Pole.
Speaker 3: Like when I go to the North Pole, I gotta
Speaker 3: take shots. I can't be around places too cold, I
Speaker 3: get sick.
Speaker 2: You've been North Pole once?
Speaker 1: I took shots? Take shots?
Speaker 2: Huh No, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was a private it was a private wedding by
Speaker 3: a wealthy Russian family. Had to be bro I froze
Speaker 3: my balls off. I said, I'm never going back there ever.
Speaker 3: But I remember I remember having to take shots before
Speaker 3: I went.
Speaker 2: And what was your shots?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't even know what it was. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what it was.
Speaker 2: It was like the opposite of all I know that
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: They said, you might want to take the shot before
Speaker 3: you go. I said, I'm good. He said, no, trust me,
Speaker 3: you're black. You gotta take a shot.
Speaker 2: Ship.
Speaker 3: That's when I realized, oh, Ship, certain people just survived
Speaker 3: better than certain parts of the world because of our DNA.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's ill.
Speaker 2: That's I got to make some lawyers that I never
Speaker 2: knew not it like that. Yeah, besides Africa, where's the
Speaker 2: illest part in the world that two like alum are
Speaker 2: performed and we were like freaked out.
Speaker 1: The illest part, you know what.
Speaker 3: I think probably the one place that I did perform
Speaker 3: and I didn't expect it to be I didn't expect
Speaker 3: it to be as crazy as it was was Lebanon.
Speaker 2: Lebanon, Yo, Lebanon.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: They call it the Vegas of the Middle East something
Speaker 6: like that, or the parents of the Middle I don't
Speaker 6: realize how crazy.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: Those probably got easiest wireless fans I ever was in
Speaker 3: front of Lebanon.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. They just had some crazy civil wars.
Speaker 3: Lebanon and Pakistan. Pakistan was crazy too, really, Pakistan was crazy.
Speaker 3: Audience as religious as they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was packed.
Speaker 1: And that audience, when I tell you, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: if y'all to perform out that with your type of music.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. What did you see in college? And
Speaker 1: Rick Ross and then went to Saudi?
Speaker 2: Yeah, where they go? They went to Saudi, They went
Speaker 2: to college. Then they they did the thing.
Speaker 1: It was the festival. It was a festival.
Speaker 2: It was like the second or third year doing it,
Speaker 2: like but like the first time like in years they
Speaker 2: could actually listen to music. So you actually hear their
Speaker 2: response being late, like you know when you go like
Speaker 2: this and let the crowd because they're like so not
Speaker 2: used to like hearing music. They was a little late.
Speaker 2: I was listening, was like, oh they knew the words,
Speaker 2: but they were just a little late.
Speaker 1: It's like it was against the religion.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It's still to see like the world get modernized. Yeah
Speaker 2: it is again like I said, so many times they
Speaker 2: would subscribed Africa and they would described the jungles and
Speaker 2: like laying with a spear, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like like where like a stereotypical ship. And I believe
Speaker 2: was the first person that he was like, man, they
Speaker 2: got ws in Africa and you know, the most.
Speaker 1: Depth still out there. He lives in South Africa, been
Speaker 1: there for almost but we've been we saw him. He's
Speaker 1: been out here a lot of doing it.
Speaker 2: But his name is seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah I still call him.
Speaker 2: I wants not disrespect. I love but you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He can call me Ali. I'm cool.
Speaker 2: That's that's your Muslim.
Speaker 1: That's that's my first name.
Speaker 2: It's your first name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, goddamn, that's why your whole name.
Speaker 2: Don't you got an ill long name?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta look that one up so long.
Speaker 2: He don't want to say. I feel like I'm writing
Speaker 2: the parad Was that something that kids joked on you
Speaker 2: in school?
Speaker 1: They never knew?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the teacher would just be like Ali charm I
Speaker 3: like she didn't want to embarrass me.
Speaker 2: Because back because back in the days, we used to
Speaker 2: have the Haitians, right, and they used to wear the
Speaker 2: Jamaican belts like they.
Speaker 1: Used to want to be the Jamaican. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be a Jamaican. I see my own eyes. Maybe
Speaker 1: this will happen.
Speaker 3: The Haitians was just being Haitianus and everybody thought they
Speaker 3: was Jamaican because they want the same colors.
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 2: Did you ever wear the Jamaican belt?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I wanted Jamaican belt. I wanted the holy
Speaker 3: What what the hose?
Speaker 1: Those are?
Speaker 2: The summertime?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: There you go?
Speaker 2: What they call holy? You ain't gonta jump out the
Speaker 2: the balleys bro to who the ballet? The ballant? You
Speaker 2: know about the ballant? The clocks, I don't say the clocks.
Speaker 1: Well, my generation, my generation more ballet's. Okay, clock clocks
Speaker 1: was a little bit before me. But bb d's used
Speaker 1: to bb ds.
Speaker 2: You don't know about those.
Speaker 3: I couldn't do the silk, okay, Yeah, he was a
Speaker 3: silky boy. That the silk was more Latin. That was
Speaker 3: more Latin, My bad.
Speaker 2: He went up. Yeah, hit the Puerto Rican Quai.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cheese, Paco jeans, Yeah, I used to work Theodora y Rock.
Speaker 2: You know it was the ship lottos. You could take
Speaker 2: the patch off.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: About Paco jeans, he has to be a little hickeys,
Speaker 2: a little paco though.
Speaker 1: Jeans are here edwins, we don't. So we had we
Speaker 1: never walked those. That's what we had.
Speaker 3: Really, What about them? Cross colors though, cross colors, yeah, colors.
Speaker 3: And that's when Karl Kaik came out. He was your
Speaker 3: car was just too high. He was so expensive.
Speaker 2: Damage you said, damage used used guests is still lit
Speaker 2: out here. Your your bowls over, yo. But you know
Speaker 2: who you know who made an amazing comeback though.
Speaker 1: M C M YO.
Speaker 2: Technically didn't go away. They just just really did really
Speaker 2: light in our community. But it didn't go away period.
Speaker 2: It stayed in the malls, though it stayed in the
Speaker 2: mall like Beniton is over. You don't see Beniton no
Speaker 2: more in the malls.
Speaker 1: Ye it did.
Speaker 2: M CM stayed in the malls. It just didn't Our
Speaker 2: coach wasn't sucking with it because you know, our coachre
Speaker 2: fucked with it when Dapper Dan took it and made
Speaker 2: that chopped that ship up, and then with m CM
Speaker 2: didn't accept him. Remember that's what happened. Yeah, Tim said
Speaker 2: fuck us at first, and then we said fuck you back,
Speaker 2: and Tim said, let's make it right. Tim said let's
Speaker 2: make it right, and we made it right. Crystal did
Speaker 2: not say let's make it right. That's the reason why
Speaker 2: Spade is here, you know, one of the sampage in
Speaker 2: the world. But I like talking about this. Who else
Speaker 2: who else?
Speaker 1: Friends back?
Speaker 2: But at least yeah, absolutely flaid the man.
Speaker 1: I said that, Okay, my bad. You know I ain't drinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, should be should commute wrong. I would have
Speaker 1: been a point if I was drinking.
Speaker 2: Oh man, damn what other round? But man, yo a
Speaker 2: car man. We really appreciate you stopping vibe man as
Speaker 2: Oh man, it was funny as hell, beautiful. Man did
Speaker 2: everything right, Man, your flowers, man, I love I like it.
Speaker 2: Fly ship man, he said, give me a scented candle. Man,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna start doing that
Speaker 2: in my riders, a scented candle. You think sage works? No,
Speaker 2: what's the other ship? I think that one works.
Speaker 3: I guess it depends on who's like it. Because a
Speaker 3: mine is a like a mine is a powerful thing.
Speaker 3: If you believe it, it works. Well, that's that's the
Speaker 3: thing with all that stuff. If you believe me, why
Speaker 3: you don't do sage work. It's just smoke.
Speaker 1: It's just smoke.
Speaker 2: And then the ship fell, and then see Saves got mad.
Speaker 1: Saves got mad. That was confirmation confirmation depending on the
Speaker 1: second information. Guys say, you're right.
Speaker 2: And what's the other thing?
Speaker 1: That's the other name of it.
Speaker 2: I like that better because the smoke doesn't come out dark,
Speaker 2: it's like it smells so so okay.
Speaker 3: So sage is supposed to delete all the evil spirits
Speaker 3: from the room, drive them away, drive away. At least,
Speaker 3: which one you think is more powerful, the sage or
Speaker 3: the prayer?
Speaker 1: Prayer? So I waste your money.
Speaker 2: I do sage and prayer, yes, because you know you
Speaker 2: must them right. Every year during Ramadan, it felt it
Speaker 2: feels pure. This is the only year during Ramadan. I
Speaker 2: just felt nothing but evil, really like I mean. And
Speaker 2: then I asked one I'm out high. I asked one
Speaker 2: of my Muslim friends, I'm sick, and I said, yo,
Speaker 2: this is the first Ramadan like every every every time
Speaker 2: Ramadan comes around, like me, as a non Muslim, I participate,
Speaker 2: but I feel just pure positive energies the first time
Speaker 2: in the years I've been practicing. And then my friend
Speaker 2: Sick says to me, he said, because they're the of Ramadan.
Speaker 1: Is when people reveal themselves. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh it was He wasn't saying it wasn't like the people.
Speaker 2: Were being evil. They was just kind of just revealing myself.
Speaker 2: Did you feel that this is?
Speaker 3: But I spent this whole Ramadan in Africa. I was
Speaker 3: in Africa the whole month of Ramadan. We're in segg
Speaker 3: in Segogue, that.
Speaker 1: Was there the whole month. So I didn't feel anything
Speaker 1: you feel.
Speaker 3: But boy, I could tell you the cause I would
Speaker 3: get after I broke fast number drama on this side.
Speaker 2: What you mean on broke fast at night period.
Speaker 3: Fast in the evening because you know when after breakfast
Speaker 3: you go back to your normal activities because I know,
Speaker 3: we don't use a phone when I'm faster because it
Speaker 3: distracts me. Right, But for the most part, you know,
Speaker 3: when you call back home or you call back to
Speaker 3: some of your homies or people that you mess with
Speaker 3: on this side. Yeah, it was like and you you
Speaker 3: actually more woke during the during during the month, you know,
Speaker 3: the month with the mind, because you actually notice things
Speaker 3: that you're not really noticing because you're more spiritually awoke, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you clearly can see the difference in people's attitudes,
Speaker 3: people's actions, emotions, and then it kind of makes you
Speaker 3: ask yourself wat to a lot of things, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So then after that month is about figuring it out
Speaker 1: at that point, yes, you.
Speaker 2: Know, if it was finished.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so.
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Speaker 2: I love the baby righting.
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate it. You know, this mean more than
Speaker 1: any award that you can get on some real ship,
Speaker 1: because it means that you appreciated by your peers. You
Speaker 1: appreciated by the people.
Speaker 4: That you do it for.
Speaker 2: And not accept my flowers because you homeboy who made
Speaker 2: it the record, Joanna? That was AfroB AfroB AfroB you
Speaker 2: jack this whole ship with Wakanda.
Speaker 1: Actually it was a rendition. I was like this, it
Speaker 1: was a rendition. Yeah, I love the song so much
Speaker 1: I had to redo it. So I made a response
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So because you know, sometimes when because you're a bigger,
Speaker 2: bigger artist does does that that that newer artist get
Speaker 2: mad at No?
Speaker 1: No, no, because I actually called it.
Speaker 3: I say, your afro beat this record, this is my
Speaker 3: favorite record. Man, I said, do you mind if I
Speaker 3: do a re edition? He said, hell no, I man,
Speaker 3: I be my blood. You know this much like that's
Speaker 3: my pleasure.
Speaker 1: So I did it. Sent it to him.
Speaker 3: He flipped he actually was gonna get on it with me.
Speaker 3: But then I said, man, if you do that, it
Speaker 3: won't be like the re edition that I want.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I said, let's me and you do a fresh record together,
Speaker 3: so it's just like fresh. And then ever since then,
Speaker 3: I've been just advised to see him on this international stuff.
Speaker 3: So it went from me loving the record getting the
Speaker 3: permission to me working with him as an advisor to
Speaker 3: do is international stuff.
Speaker 1: And what's that?
Speaker 2: Did you do as a freestyle at first? Or you
Speaker 2: did it like to remake the record?
Speaker 3: No, I did it just for fun. It was it
Speaker 3: was a parody for me. Have you seen the video
Speaker 3: with me and Michael Blaxton. Oh, you gotta see the video. Man,
Speaker 3: that ship is hilarious. It's almost like I just had
Speaker 3: sex type of It's a monster. Yeah, so you gotta
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 1: It's up there.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So for the record, he did not get mad. He
Speaker 1: supported artist artist and I hope you heard what he
Speaker 1: just said.
Speaker 2: If you want to remake someone's record, call him up.
Speaker 3: I mean he might have been flattered by it. At me,
Speaker 3: it was like prime is Apple, Like there was times
Speaker 3: we were in the same city. I would perform my version.
Speaker 3: Then asked mine's about then he come out with the
Speaker 3: actual version of crazy. You know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 3: like we actually did we teamed up on that like
Speaker 3: that or the other way around. I pop up from
Speaker 3: the back, you know what I'm saying. You go from
Speaker 3: Joanna to what KM done?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because Noori's worried about people doing his records over No,
Speaker 1: let them do it.
Speaker 2: Let them do it.
Speaker 1: I like, let them do it. He's weird about it.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: That preserves you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You know how many times my record's been re sampled, redone.
Speaker 3: I haven't dropped the records since two thousand and eight, nigga,
Speaker 3: that's fifteen years. Yeah, you would have thought it was
Speaker 3: just yesterday because these little niggas keeping me preserved until
Speaker 3: I'm ready to drop another record, which will be dropping
Speaker 3: by the end of the year.
Speaker 1: All right, But then you drop like that plug d
Speaker 1: then you dropped like an Afro beat type of Yeah.
Speaker 1: But that was just for African territory. That was just
Speaker 1: for that was just for Africa.
Speaker 2: And what's the name of that that was?
Speaker 1: Uh, what was the time named that one? That was
Speaker 1: that was Akandada?
Speaker 2: So so so you're saying you're making.
Speaker 3: A global Oh no, like the basic, the original traditional
Speaker 3: a cop records. Yeah, that was a lot of experiments,
Speaker 3: just having fun with it. I did an afrobeat album.
Speaker 3: I did a Latin album like I did. I did
Speaker 3: an Indian like Hindi album. You did Bollywood music, Yeah, bro,
Speaker 3: I got Bollywood songs all through. These movies are killing
Speaker 3: having fun. I did some K pop records like I
Speaker 3: was everywhere. Absolutely, if you even if you go to
Speaker 3: do Bay, you hear me speaking, I mean records doing
Speaker 3: Arabic music like I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: It's me.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 2: I'm going to speak for me.
Speaker 1: No comment.
Speaker 2: That's sangerous man, right there.
Speaker 1: No, only because I be in rooms where I need
Speaker 1: to know what they're They don't even know what. I
Speaker 1: promise you, I hear it all.
Speaker 2: It'd be hilarious though, it'd be so funny.
Speaker 1: That's the right, No coming, that's right.
Speaker 2: You gotta do anything else you want to talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but so I am excited about this new record
Speaker 3: I'm about to drop.
Speaker 2: It's done already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alum's finished.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, we're.
Speaker 3: Dropping at the top of the year Traditional Acon So
Speaker 3: Universe is dropping the best of Acon around. We're thinking
Speaker 3: of like around November, October November time, and then shortly
Speaker 3: after that I'll be introducing the brand new album.
Speaker 1: So the simple January. Yeah, it's the timeline is October November. Okay,
Speaker 1: if everything works as planned, you said the best of
Speaker 1: us too, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Best of and then the albums dropping right after yeah okay,
Speaker 3: so yeah, so be be prepared for the new holidays
Speaker 3: to be hearing some new music.
Speaker 2: Now now, alight. You know, back then we should drop singles,
Speaker 2: right like nowadays they're like there's no singles, it's just
Speaker 2: dropped the album.
Speaker 1: Everyone that's biting off invented that, like just drop the album.
Speaker 1: You're gonna just drop the album or you know, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lead up. It's gonna be a lead up.
Speaker 3: And that's that's why we're doing the Best of Acon
Speaker 3: releases first, you know, team up universe to activate my
Speaker 3: old fans and people. It just kind of remind them,
Speaker 3: remind them, you know, remind them, get them back into
Speaker 3: the Acons you know energy, and then just come with
Speaker 3: a new album.
Speaker 1: Right, so we're gonna lead it up.
Speaker 2: You're gonna ad it up. Yeah, two singles probably.
Speaker 3: Oh no, we everything is a single. Ain't no such
Speaker 3: thing as a no albums man. Listen the whole album
Speaker 3: dropping the same day video for everything, man, video for
Speaker 3: every single song. That's right, We're going to.
Speaker 2: Be speak absolutely and again. The dream artist to work with.
Speaker 3: The dream artist to work with is Shady. That's It's
Speaker 3: a great It's left in my list.
Speaker 2: Of artists that I wanted to work with that I
Speaker 2: haven't worked with yet. She seems untouchable, like you can't
Speaker 2: get to her.
Speaker 1: I don't have a connection to her. She's like invisible.
Speaker 2: What you said, invisible man, like a wizard.
Speaker 3: As many people as I know, I still haven't found
Speaker 3: one person that can get me to her.
Speaker 2: How about Drake?
Speaker 1: I love Drake. He's my favorite artist today. You guys
Speaker 1: are making incredible music. I think we definitely would. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we definitely would. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The only thing I think that stocked was I just
Speaker 3: wasn't in the music space at the time. But I
Speaker 3: think when I get back in, I think there's some
Speaker 3: great opportunities for me and Drake to do something crazy together.
Speaker 2: Drake, who else before we get up out of here
Speaker 2: and you work with everybody?
Speaker 3: Bro I have It's only one rapper that I haven't
Speaker 3: worked with yet, and I still to this day can't
Speaker 3: figure out why.
Speaker 1: It's jay Z.
Speaker 3: He's the only one I haven't worked with at and
Speaker 3: I always thought that maybe it's because.
Speaker 1: Of the timing of our career is going. There probably
Speaker 1: was the time all I.
Speaker 3: Mean, because Bro, I'm I'm I'm a huge fan. I
Speaker 3: don't know how you feel about me, but I always
Speaker 3: felt like that could be something that would be crazy.
Speaker 3: I think that would complete complete me from an urban
Speaker 3: music standpoint, making that making.
Speaker 2: That happen, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that would just be sound. I think that
Speaker 1: that would be crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, who would you prefer you on his album or
Speaker 2: him on yours?
Speaker 1: I think it wouldn't make it.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll make a difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I prefer it on his album because I
Speaker 3: know it guaranteed to be pushed.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. How about it's guaranteed to.
Speaker 1: Go number one?
Speaker 2: How about nas.
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 3: You know how long me and Na's been trying to connect. Jesus,
Speaker 3: It's it's just been fake. I promise you believe me.
Speaker 3: That was supposed to have been happen. Me and I
Speaker 3: is always trying to get together, but it's just he's
Speaker 3: so international, I'm so international.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just being in the.
Speaker 3: Same place at the same time, and artists like me
Speaker 3: and him, we just don't see us working over the internet.
Speaker 1: We just got to be in a room together.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why that's the only reason why
Speaker 3: it didn't happen earlier, because I think it'd just be
Speaker 3: bigger if me and him was in the same room.
Speaker 2: That's what me and Fenn say all the time. Like
Speaker 2: sometimes we do the say say analog are digital, right,
Speaker 2: and we always kind of like pick analogue. And the
Speaker 2: reason why is because I feel like the music that
Speaker 2: was made in the nineties early two thousands, you can
Speaker 2: it's better because we can't real you had to actually
Speaker 2: come to my.
Speaker 1: Studio culture record for the energy you can't even came
Speaker 1: at to.
Speaker 2: Get on had to be in the same room, right,
Speaker 2: So you do you think that's that's true?
Speaker 3: Like, I think it depends on the artists, right. I
Speaker 3: think some chemistries are better when they separated. Yes, some
Speaker 3: people that just make great music, but then when they
Speaker 3: get in the same room, the energy may.
Speaker 1: Be different because one may be shy, you just never
Speaker 1: really know.
Speaker 3: So in this generation that works out better because a
Speaker 3: lot of these artists are very like anti social.
Speaker 1: They low key super weird.
Speaker 3: Like you get close to them, they just start you
Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about, Like, don't they quiet?
Speaker 1: They just mute, they don't say nothing. Damn, I've been
Speaker 1: here thirty minutes. You want to ask me nothing? You know,
Speaker 1: but come on, this was weird back then too, but
Speaker 1: not like this though. Yeah, damn, you're kind of right down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but back then they were forced to be together. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can only be here so long. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: you're like damn. But the crazy part about it is
Speaker 1: when you DM them, they can't shut up. They hit
Speaker 1: you with eighteen paragraphs like, bro, I just answered simple
Speaker 1: yes and no question.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that's that's all in you know, that's a generational
Speaker 1: for sure. Generational for sure.
Speaker 2: The other day, right, I see, I seen the a
Speaker 2: kid I don't want to say his name, but we
Speaker 2: were sitting there and he knew Dominique Wilkins was, he
Speaker 2: knew Chris Webber was. He knew all these people who
Speaker 2: don't play for him, as a as a kid. But
Speaker 2: then someone asked him and he's he's a rapper. Someone
Speaker 2: asked him who cares one was? He had no clue?
Speaker 2: Someone asked him who rock him was? He had no clue.
Speaker 2: Someone asked him who Biggie Smalls was. He had a clue,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't. Do you think that's something that in
Speaker 2: the hip hop and our genre that we it's something
Speaker 2: that we should actually learn, like learn about our culture
Speaker 2: like he was learned about the same way you learn
Speaker 2: about basketball and you learn about He's a pattrick of
Speaker 2: you and sneakers. Shouldn't you learn about Big Pun and
Speaker 2: shouldn't you learn about Belly mal.
Speaker 1: I agree we should learn, but we just we don't
Speaker 1: learn because like learning has to be motivated. The reason
Speaker 1: why you know about a lot of these you know,
Speaker 1: basketball players and football players for that matter, they have
Speaker 1: these hall of fames that recognize them and their abilities
Speaker 1: and also you know, give them the just of their
Speaker 1: creation and present it to the people that might have
Speaker 1: not known what they're responsible for. Hip Hop is the
Speaker 1: only music that we don't celebrate the founding fathers. We
Speaker 1: don't have a foundation to help them because most of
Speaker 1: them in bad situations.
Speaker 3: They paved the way for us. Like this is stuff
Speaker 3: that we as a culture just naturally, just do they
Speaker 3: do it as a natural culture. They hold museums, teach
Speaker 3: each other's history to the point where their history is
Speaker 3: being taught to us because we don't even have or
Speaker 3: preserve our own history.
Speaker 2: You can't blame them. That's the only history that exists
Speaker 2: because they preserved it.
Speaker 3: When did we have a preserve African history or Black
Speaker 3: history outside of the parts that just hurt us so
Speaker 3: bad that every time we do something and we fail,
Speaker 3: we use it as an excuse.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. So as a culture, we
Speaker 1: got to be better.
Speaker 3: We have to and to be with people that understand
Speaker 3: that that you know, actually exists and the people that
Speaker 3: actually has the power and the resources to actually make
Speaker 3: it happen. Like that's something that would help us, believe
Speaker 3: it or not, because it keeps us in powered longer.
Speaker 1: Because this culture is not something it's really up for grabs.
Speaker 1: I don't care where you go in the world, Like
Speaker 1: everywhere you go in the world, hip hop exists, but
Speaker 1: it exists in their language and they're talking about their
Speaker 1: culture to the point where new York can't even claim
Speaker 1: it no more. That's right. I've been saying that.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But had New York created the museum which right now
Speaker 1: the Universal Hip Hop Museum, use all the.
Speaker 3: Hip hop artists as a way of pushing people to
Speaker 3: it though it's okay to have it, but who's there?
Speaker 1: No, they just they just they're creating it now.
Speaker 6: Like we need to support it though they got a
Speaker 6: lot of support, though they're not behind it, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And Curtis Blow and Carris One that history, man,
Speaker 6: we cannot all late.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. We're all laid to it. It's all late.
Speaker 2: Like it's even why we created the show.
Speaker 6: Because there wasn't there wasn't a platform that was given
Speaker 6: a voice to artists that necessarily weren't on a pressure
Speaker 6: run anymore, right, right, right, And that's why we did
Speaker 6: it because nobody was giving us a voice DJ and
Speaker 6: MC that they felt was washed up and old, like now, okay,
Speaker 6: we don't create our own platform.
Speaker 2: There you go, and we did, motherfucker. I want to
Speaker 2: I want to big you up your staff man, you
Speaker 2: know for coming through man, thank you exactly who you
Speaker 2: are man, continue your success. We want to support you.
Speaker 2: If I don't know, we don't care. If you want
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Speaker 1: You appreciate that.
Speaker 2: So last time I got drunk and but this time
Speaker 2: I stayed sober because I wanted you respect. That's I
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Speaker 2: thank you. Let me, let me, let me stay shocked.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He just me last to myself.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's because the person that's never been
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