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Speaker 1: It's One Bills Live presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Monday edition of One Bill's Live. Mattie

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Speaker 2: Glab alongside of Steve Tasker, as we are back at

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Drive, fresh off the scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown and myself spent Monday through Thursday, and Chris

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Speaker 2: Brown was there until Friday.

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Speaker 1: You say you say we are fresh off.

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Speaker 3: Of you, you.

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Speaker 1: Means you, ch us, I was on vacate. I like

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Speaker 1: the combine though I've missed it because you know, you

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Speaker 1: get in We've done it a couple of years now,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of get into a rhythm, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: lots of stuff going on and kind of look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing some other people and a lot of kudos

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Speaker 1: for the show being there. We had good shows. I

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Speaker 1: was watching some, I was catching some of it, and

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Speaker 1: plus all the stuff you tweeted out and the snippets

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Speaker 1: you tweeted out, seemed like a good combine for you know,

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Speaker 1: the show and taking it on the road. And what

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Speaker 1: were your thoughts after being there?

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Speaker 2: You just run around like a chicken with your head

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Speaker 2: cut off all week when you're at the combine because

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Speaker 2: you're getting ready for the show. You're pre taping and

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Speaker 2: pre recording guests, and then you've got prospects talking on

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Speaker 2: the podium. You've got gms and head coaches talking on

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Speaker 2: the podium, and you don't want to miss out on

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Speaker 2: any of it.

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Speaker 4: So you're here, You're there, You're everywhere.

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Speaker 2: But I thought we had some really really great guests

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Speaker 2: throughout the entire week. It was fun to hear from

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Speaker 2: the prospects. That's probably my favorite part of the Combine

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Speaker 2: is to hear from the three hundred and twenty. I

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Speaker 2: think the number was prospects who were at the combine

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Speaker 2: interviewing with NFL teams, testing the whole shebang, all of it,

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Speaker 2: and several guys.

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Speaker 4: Had some good things to say about the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I got to speak to some defensive linemen. Wasn't there

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Speaker 2: for the wide receivers they talked on Friday.

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Speaker 3: I was out of town by then.

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Speaker 2: I had a wedding on Friday that I had to

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Speaker 2: get over to, so Chris Brown and Chris Trepasso did

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Speaker 2: the show on Friday. But yeah, I got to talk

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Speaker 2: to some defensive linemen and it's fun to hear from

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Speaker 2: players who know players that are on different defensive lines

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Speaker 2: rather than just like the star players. Everybody knows von Miller,

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Speaker 2: but it was fun to hear guys point out players

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Speaker 2: like at Oliver as well. I remember Jerson Newton, Johnny Newton,

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Speaker 2: the defensive tackle out of Illinois who I like his

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Speaker 2: tape quite a bit. He said that he's been watching

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Speaker 2: at Oliver since his Houston days and said, you know,

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Speaker 2: if I joined that defensive line, it would be sack City.

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Speaker 2: And they've got a great defensive line, so I'd love

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Speaker 2: to be a part of it. So it's always fun

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Speaker 2: hearing those snidbits and you get to.

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Speaker 3: Ask those questions.

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Speaker 2: It's not like those guys are just talking about the

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Speaker 2: bills without being prompted. Usually there's a beat reporter or

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Speaker 2: myself who are right next to the podium asking questions.

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Speaker 2: And the most popular question that is asked, have you

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Speaker 2: interviewed with this team? Have you interviewed with that team?

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Speaker 2: Have you interviewed with this team? That's half the interview.

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Speaker 2: But it's fun to hear player stories where they came from.

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Speaker 2: There's a defensive lineman who is from the same town

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Speaker 2: as Kingsley Jonathan in.

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Speaker 3: Lagos, Nigeria.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: And that's such a cool connection to both have been

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Speaker 2: at the same time. And the NFL Africa movement, it's

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Speaker 2: been awesome to see a lot of guys make it

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Speaker 2: out of a different continent, not just a different country,

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Speaker 2: So he said he's heard of Kingsley. Jonathan said, that's

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Speaker 2: And then who doesn't love watching these guys run the

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Speaker 1: Steve Well, the fast one Xavier Xavior Worthy was was

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Speaker 1: pretty cool to see that. It's a it's become quite

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Speaker 1: a part of everybody's bio now they have to throw

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Speaker 1: their forty time up there and and you know see

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Speaker 1: what it was was I and I think too. It's

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Speaker 1: and one of the things we do have gotten so

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Speaker 1: Certainly the lower the better, and the guys that run

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Speaker 1: and that was it's it's just amazing to me how

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Speaker 1: deep fanship of the NFL is gone that you got people.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that big big dude? You see they

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Speaker 1: run the four two two's, You know, the guy the

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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy snaps off the fastest one in the fastest

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Speaker 1: forty in history and people are wowed by it. But

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Speaker 1: three thirty that run the five second four? You know,

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Speaker 1: because they know that that's really fast. Uh, but you

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Speaker 1: see and we're watching him now Worthy breaking this record.

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Speaker 4: And he said he said he thought he could.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that it's it's so fast.

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Speaker 2: And the unofficial time came in it was four two two.

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Speaker 4: Than ten years ago. I'm trying to think of when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it's it's been a decade. But it's

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Speaker 1: an amazing majich an amazing measurement because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of technique that people don't know. It's not just lined

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Speaker 2: But then we heard from several players who were not

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Speaker 2: going to participate in the skills part in the testing.

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior, the most talented wide receiver to come

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Speaker 2: out of this draft class, decided to not partake in

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Speaker 2: any of that, and his reasoning was, Hey, I want

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Speaker 2: to spend this time training to be an NFL player.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to spend the next two or three

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Speaker 2: or the three cone drill. I want to train when

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Speaker 2: it comes to learning how to play football at the

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Speaker 2: next level, extending the skills.

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Speaker 3: That I already have.

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Speaker 2: And I totally understand that if you're a player like

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Speaker 2: Marvin Marvin Harrison Junior, who's going to get drafted, possibly

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Speaker 3: Up in the first three spots in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with a guy saying, listen, I'm good because

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Speaker 1: they got all miles and miles to take, particularly the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I mean they the quarterbacks are such an important part

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Speaker 1: of that pick, this process is not just a two

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Speaker 1: They're going to be able to go see him do this.

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Speaker 1: The combine was never meant to reshuffler beat the thing

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Speaker 1: It was more about getting these guys into Indianapolis and giving.

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Speaker 3: Them a physical That's the most important part.

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Speaker 1: It's the most important part about it because they can

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Speaker 1: in fact, that's why it's really difficult for them to

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Speaker 2: They talked about moving it out of Indianapolis or was

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Speaker 3: Before before we move on, I.

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Speaker 2: Got to shout out a couple edge rushers who had

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Speaker 2: Dallas Turner out of Alabama four four to six. Can

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Speaker 2: his height and weight just to help paint the picture here.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be drafted way before the Bills are on

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, if you guys are in the camp of let's

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Speaker 2: draft a defensive lineman Dallas Turner will not be around

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Speaker 2: six three, two hundred and forty seven pounds. He ran

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Speaker 2: the fastest time out of all defensive lineman. Chop Robinson though,

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Speaker 2: was right there at four four eight from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: He's that defensive end that has that explosive first step

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Speaker 2: get off, and Chop Robinson is a name who's been

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Speaker 2: mocked to the Bills at number twenty eight. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if he starts to rise up the ranks, rise up

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Speaker 2: the draft board, because it's always interesting to watch how

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Speaker 2: mock draft shift after the combine because these forty times,

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Speaker 3: To move up the board.

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Speaker 2: Will Chop Robinson be one of those guys after he

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Speaker 2: posted a four four eight forty.

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Speaker 3: He's got a good skill set.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the thing. You get these they get in

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Speaker 2: One of those players for me was Darius Robinson. He's

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Speaker 4: He decided to stay at school.

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Speaker 3: He's big, he's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a did you did? Guys. There's a

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's I mean, it's a it's

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Speaker 2: And that's why the scouts, the coaches, the gms who

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Speaker 2: about who wanted to get the three cone drill right,

439
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Speaker 2: and he kept doing it again and again and again,

440
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Speaker 2: and even though people weren't watching, he wanted to get

441
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Speaker 2: a specific time in mind, and so he did it

442
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Speaker 2: until he had that specific time checked off his box

443
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Speaker 2: in his mind. So people are taking notes. People are

444
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: sharing these stories, whether these players are doing it in

445
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Speaker 2: hopes that they get shared publicly, and oh what a

446
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Speaker 2: guy he is or not. People are paying attention to

447
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Speaker 2: every little step and everything room, and you.

448
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Speaker 1: Know what one guy takes as a positive, another guy discounts.

449
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Speaker 1: You know, they don't think it's genuine. They watch the guy.

450
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Speaker 1: They try to watch the these guys. When these guys

451
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's watching them, you know what I mean.

452
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: They watch them when they don't think anybody's watching them,

453
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Speaker 1: and that tells them more than when they're on camera.

454
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Speaker 1: You know, it's an interesting dynamic. When you're in a

455
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Speaker 1: job interview, it is a set structure where you're gonna

456
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Speaker 1: be questioned. You know that you're being watched. It's a

457
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Speaker 1: different kind of dynamic when they can watch every movie

458
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Speaker 1: you make, and a lot of these guys forget that

459
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Speaker 1: they're being watched. So it's when your job depends on

460
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Speaker 1: picking the right guys. You're going to scrutinize those guys,

461
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Speaker 1: and that's what these gms do. Brand I saw Brandon

462
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Speaker 1: here today. Man, he's he's walking out of the cat

463
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Speaker 1: He's walking out of the place. He's got like four

464
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Speaker 1: bottles of water. Because you've got to go in and

465
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Speaker 1: watch going, Yeah, I don't bother me. You know, they

466
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Speaker 1: take it. I mean, they couldn't take it more seriously.

467
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Speaker 1: They cross reference it. And the thing that makes and

468
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Speaker 1: even this building is like this. The thing that makes

469
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Speaker 1: this so interesting in these evaluation processes because guys like

470
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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, they're too smart to have

471
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Speaker 1: just yes men in the building. You gotta have guys

472
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Speaker 1: that are that disagree with you so you can so

473
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Speaker 1: you don't get go down this tunnel and all of

474
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Speaker 1: a sudden you're you don't recognize the team you've picked

475
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Speaker 1: because you picked all these guys that only you thought

476
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Speaker 1: were good and you never opened your mind to what

477
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Speaker 1: other guys were seeing. And so these conversations about player

478
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Speaker 1: evaluations not not only just now when you're picking guys,

479
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Speaker 1: but also during training camp when you're choosing the guys

480
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Speaker 1: you've already picked, and you're excluding guys. It's a brutal process.

481
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Speaker 1: And they some of the conversations or disagreements about what

482
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Speaker 1: you think, why you think a guy is good, why

483
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Speaker 1: you think a guy's bad, Why do you think he's bad?

484
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Speaker 1: And I think he's good? What what do you? How's come?

485
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Speaker 1: And it's like I said, how's come? You think this

486
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Speaker 1: is a minus? And I think it's a plus. It's fascinating.

487
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Speaker 1: That's why so many guys want to get into that

488
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Speaker 1: end of it, because it is a fascinating work environment.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's why it's so

490
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Speaker 2: important that the Bills have not just their scouting staff,

491
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Speaker 2: not just Brandon Bean, not just Sean McDermott, not just

492
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Speaker 2: Terry Pegoula, but also assistant coaches coordinators in the room

493
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Speaker 2: to do and help with and listen in on the

494
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Speaker 2: interviews that they do with prospects at the Indianapolis Combine.

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Speaker 2: Not every team brings their coaching staff, Not every team

496
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Speaker 2: has assistant coaches and coordinators sitting in the room with

497
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Speaker 2: the scouting department as they're interviewing these prospects. And I

498
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Speaker 2: just think of how much of it an advantage it

499
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Speaker 2: is to have your coaching staff sitting there with your

500
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Speaker 2: scouting department and you're all taking it in. You're all

501
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Speaker 2: listening to what this player has to say. You're all

502
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 2: getting to quiz this player on this or on that,

503
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: or learn about his background. Because it's not just the

504
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Speaker 2: scouting department. The scouting department makes the decision, Brandon Bean

505
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Speaker 2: makes the picks, but then they get handed over to

506
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Speaker 2: the coaching staff to learn and to grow and to

507
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Speaker 2: become the best version of yourself that you can be

508
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. And it's not a one way relationship.

509
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: It's a two way relationship. It's the scouting department and

510
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Speaker 2: the coaching staff working together. And it starts in those

511
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Speaker 2: interview rooms. It starts with Sean McDermott sitting there and

512
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Speaker 2: listening and thinking, this guy belongs on this team, or

513
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: this guy I think could learn really well under this position. Coach,

514
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Speaker 2: I think we could get the most out of him

515
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Speaker 2: if he was under our under our doors or in

516
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Speaker 2: our place. And I think back to Terrell Bernard and

517
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Speaker 2: the Bills drafting him in the third round, and people

518
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: probably thought, we like some people. We like this player,

519
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: some other people we don't like this player outside of

520
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Speaker 2: the building. I'm not saying inside of the building. I'm

521
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: saying outside and look at what happened under Buffalo's care.

522
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Speaker 2: You draft this third round linebacker who has traits, who

523
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: had good college tape, who had upside, who had potential,

524
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Speaker 2: and you get all of that out of him with

525
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Speaker 2: the right coaching, with Bobby Babbage helping him. The numbers

526
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Speaker 2: that that kid posted this season in his first year

527
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Speaker 2: as a full time starter in a mic linebacker spot

528
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: not an easy position to start in, to be a

529
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Speaker 2: first year starter in a defense filled with veteran players

530
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Speaker 2: who have to listen to you, who have to take

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Speaker 2: your coaching, your critique as you're lining up in the huddle,

532
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: as you're pointing things out, as you're iding things with

533
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Speaker 2: the green dot. And he did a great job of that.

534
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't just because of Brandon Bean making that decision

535
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Speaker 2: deciding to draft him. It was also because of Sean

536
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Speaker 2: McDermott and because of Bobby Babbage. It takes both sides

537
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: of this equation to make it work. And that's what

538
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: you're hoping with every single draft pick. You're hoping, Hey,

539
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: let's get them in here. Let's coach them up because

540
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 2: I know our coaching department can do a great job

541
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Speaker 2: in turning this guy into who we saw on film,

542
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Speaker 2: who we wanted to see on film.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be it's it's it's gonna be fun.

544
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Speaker 1: And this last combine we go through this every year.

545
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Speaker 1: When you go to the combine and you finally get

546
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Speaker 1: a look at the guys and what they look like.

547
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: And some of the guys, did you you have you

548
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: read numbers on a up until the combine, they're just

549
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: numbers and pictures. But when you get a chance to

550
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: stand next to the person and to see him at

551
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Speaker 1: the podium and come down shake hands with people and

552
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: just say hello casually, it's like, dude, that guy's huge.

553
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: You know, you get because we see them all the

554
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: time we're in the building. We see these guys all

555
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: the time. They're all big. But then you see a guy,

556
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: a college kid, and they stand out amongst their classmate,

557
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the combine guys, that guy

558
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: stands out that as much as it just the eye

559
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: test goes a miles uh when they see we see him,

560
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: like when all the dbs are on the field and

561
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: the kid stands out a bunch of those and those guys,

562
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Speaker 1: because all those guys are standouts. There's thirty of them,

563
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: thirty corners at the combine, and that one stands out

564
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: above those thirty corners who stood out amongst all the

565
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Speaker 1: other corners in the comp in the country. And then

566
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Speaker 1: you got a guy that stands out above them. It's

567
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Speaker 1: it's a big statement, it's a big sty and that's

568
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: where other guys too, get hurt, because not only do

569
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Speaker 1: they not stand out, they don't stand out, you know,

570
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: they're not They're just they're just they're just go right, Oh,

571
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Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's fascinating. This is always fascinating when you

572
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: get these guys in because they they worked so hard

573
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Speaker 1: and the game asks so much of them, even at

574
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Speaker 1: the low levels of the sport, and they've stuck with

575
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Speaker 1: it and they've had success at all the levels, and

576
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: now they're going to try and make that final leap

577
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: into the NFL. It's big. I always remember, I can't

578
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: you can't describe how much emotion is involved in it.

579
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Speaker 1: I remember me. You know, it's now forty years ago

580
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: almost how emotionally charged all of it is. It's really

581
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Speaker 1: an it's impossible to describe.

582
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Speaker 2: Almost you're starting to see your dreams come true. A

583
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: lot of these prospects are.

584
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Speaker 3: It is an incredible time.

585
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Speaker 1: To see him go up in smoke.

586
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Speaker 3: We're to see him go up.

587
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: In smokes, and hopefully it is seeing those dreams come true,

588
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Speaker 2: seeing them come to fruition, getting your name called by

589
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell or whoever in the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

590
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: seventh round, whatever that may be, and hoping that you

591
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: can make a name for yourself in the NFL. So cool,

592
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: so amazing, and the clock is ticking. Oh my gosh,

593
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: we've got free agency coming up. The data tag franchise players.

594
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Speaker 1: You have two weeks from Wednesday, day away from that

595
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: opens up, and then it opens up like they can

596
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: start talking and we'll start hearing stuff on two weeks

597
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Speaker 1: from to day. Well, that's amazing.

598
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: Got a franchise tag players by March fifth, that's a

599
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: day away from now, today's March fourth. Free agency begins

600
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Speaker 2: March thirteenth, at four o'clock, the new league year begins,

601
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Speaker 2: and then we are into players coming back for workouts

602
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Speaker 2: in early April April.

603
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Speaker 3: And then the NFL Draft at the end of April.

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Speaker 2: It is all ahead of us, so much happening, lots

605
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Speaker 2: to talk about. We've got a question for you, how

606
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: has your perception changed about the bills draft needs following

607
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Speaker 2: the common You can tweet at us or give us

608
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Speaker 2: a call at eight oh three oh five fifty. The

609
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 2: phone lines are open for you. We're going to take

610
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Speaker 2: a break and go round the NFL when we return.

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Speaker 2: Where One Bill's Live were presented by Clydehealth on Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 3: We're back on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Our question today for you, how has your perception changed

615
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Speaker 2: about the Bill's draft needs following the NFL combine. You

616
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: can tweet at us or give us a call at

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Speaker 2: aight oh three oh five fifty. We've got Bill hanging

618
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: on the line, so we'll go right over to Bill.

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Speaker 3: Hey Bill, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: Of course, how are you doing good?

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Speaker 5: If I found out a breath, I'm on the elliptical,

623
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Speaker 5: so just give me a minute, please.

624
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Speaker 3: I like it multitasking.

625
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. Ian Coleman, I am a Florida stay and I

626
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 5: watched this kid. He cannot get open. If you get him,

627
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna have the same thing you had with Dave Davis.

628
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: He's good around the goal line because of the contested catches,

629
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Speaker 5: but he has to have contested catches because he can't

630
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Speaker 5: get open. Franklin, I think he's too weak. I don't

631
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Speaker 5: think he can handle him. But I haven't heard anybody

632
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: talk about Lad McConkie, and I don't know why.

633
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Speaker 6: He's fast.

634
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Speaker 5: He gets open and he makes catches. I'll hang up

635
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Speaker 5: and listen to your comments.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but we have been hearing about Lad McConkie.

638
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: He gets tossed in a lot because I think he

639
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: was really People really like the way he catches the ball,

640
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: which is huge here in Buffalo. It's a little bit

641
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: of a hot button subject with us because of you know,

642
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: we two years ago they led the league or tied

643
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Speaker 1: for the lead lead and drop passes. Yeah, mcconkey's has

644
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: been mentioned. Keon Coleman, You're right. That's one of the

645
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: things that that Brownie brings up a lot when he

646
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: talks about guys is they always say, Wow, he can

647
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: catch the fifty to fifty ball, And the problem is

648
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: every catch the guy makes is a fifty to fifty

649
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Speaker 1: ball because he can't get open It's exactly what Bill

650
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Speaker 1: from I Guess Texas is telling us. Fast guys are fast. Yes,

651
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter in a league full of fast guys.

652
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Speaker 1: You're going to have to find a way. And I've

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Speaker 1: said this before on the show Getting Open in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. And you're talking to a guy me

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Speaker 1: who I mean, I covered kicks for a reason, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean because I wasn't good enough receiver to get

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Speaker 1: on the field. But it's not because I do know

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Speaker 1: how to play wide receiver. So because I did it

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Speaker 1: six days a week except on Sundays. What happens is

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Speaker 1: it's not about out running guys. It's not about being

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Speaker 1: more athletically gifted than any of the dbs that you're facing.

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Speaker 1: It's about fooling them. It's about technique. It's about making

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Speaker 1: the defensive back commit to something that you're not doing

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Speaker 1: and then beating him as a result. That's why certain,

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Speaker 1: that's why you can work on it. That's why guys

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Speaker 1: who don't run four two's are elite receivers in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. And a guy who's thirty one years

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Speaker 1: old is better at getting open than a more athletic, faster, bigger,

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Speaker 1: stronger twenty two year old because he can fool the

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Speaker 1: dB and the twenty two year old can't. So while

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Speaker 1: it's important that these guys are all physically gifted, that

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Speaker 1: they're all fast, that they're all athletic, and they all

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Speaker 1: catch the ball, catch the ball, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: job one, it's also about their ability to, like Bill said,

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Speaker 1: get separation. And that's something that's hard. Only the tape

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Speaker 1: will tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you turn on the tape on Keon Coleman,

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Speaker 2: he is a contested cat receiver. He does go up

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Speaker 2: and get the ball. He can catch the ball when

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Speaker 2: he's in traffic. But the thing on him is when

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Speaker 2: you watch the tape, he doesn't get as much separation

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Speaker 2: as some of these other guys who are floating around

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the first round, at least their projection

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Speaker 2: to be drafted at the bottom of the first round.

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Speaker 2: He is bigger six four two fifteen, but not getting

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Speaker 2: as much separation, not as quick as some of these

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Speaker 2: other wide receivers. Troy Franklin is a player that yes

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Speaker 2: he is a little bit lighter at oneint eighty seven,

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Speaker 2: what can he play up to at the NFL level?

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Speaker 2: Can he still retain some of that speed if you

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Speaker 2: do put some muscle on him. He got quite a

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Speaker 2: bit of separation on tape on film, He's somebody who

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Speaker 2: can fool a defensive back. Brian Thomas Junior is another

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Speaker 2: player in that camp that has good speed, is a

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Speaker 2: big body, wide receiver. Is an ex guy can probably

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Speaker 2: grow into being a number one receiver for a team,

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Speaker 2: and who has a lot of the skills that teams

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Speaker 2: and coaches are looking for. Has a well rounded playbook

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Speaker 2: to him, running routes, being fast, getting separation, getting the

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty balls. That's somebody who looks like he

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Speaker 2: can do it all on tape. Now, will he be

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Speaker 2: available at twenty eight, I'm not sure. Based on the

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Speaker 2: time that he ran and the more that people start

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Speaker 2: to talk about a wide receiver like him. Lad McConkey

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Speaker 2: is a name I think who's starting to be talked

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Speaker 2: about a little bit more unofficial. Four three nine forty time.

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Speaker 3: That is fast, fast, fast.

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Speaker 2: The Bills talked about Brandon Bean Sean McDermott when they

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Speaker 2: met with media at the at the Combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: They talked about getting explosive plays, wanting to get more

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Speaker 2: explosive plays, not having enough of those this season and

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Speaker 2: knowing what that can do for an offense.

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Speaker 3: And I just think about Josh Allen. He's got such

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Speaker 3: a great arm.

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Speaker 2: He is a quarterback who can full you in the

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Speaker 2: pocket and full you out of the pocket. And if

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Speaker 2: you have an arm like somebody like he does, you

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Speaker 2: want to marry that with a wide receiver, a true

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Speaker 2: ex a separator, a speedster that can run down the

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Speaker 2: field and can catch the ball that Josh Allen just

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Speaker 2: threw out of a cannon. That sounds amazing For this offense,

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Speaker 2: they haven't had that, truly had that since John Brown.

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Speaker 1: Was on the team right and it has been too much.

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Speaker 1: It was too much of a roller coaster. With Gabe Davis,

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Speaker 1: he had certainly had the highest of highs, but he

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Speaker 1: also had games where he was not present and even

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Speaker 1: though he was on the field. So you need a

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Speaker 1: guy that's going to be consistent, show up, be there,

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Speaker 1: and be able to win every single week so that

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Speaker 1: you don't have to jump through any hoops to engineer

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Speaker 1: a guy open or hope that it's a week where

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Speaker 1: he has a good game and it will be a

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Speaker 1: matchup that is better for your team. On a more

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Speaker 1: consistent basis, and listen, I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 1: I think Lad mcconkey's he's six foot he's six foot tall,

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Speaker 1: weighs just under two hundred pounds, but once and running

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Speaker 1: the four sub fourth four is big because they electronically

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Speaker 1: timed these guys. There ain't no hand timing this. The

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Speaker 1: entire league is getting faster and faster, and there's getting

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Speaker 1: more and more guys that are getting in the sub

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Speaker 1: four five range. Anytime you're sub four five, you're fast,

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Speaker 1: and that's yeah, that's that's a difference maker. And now

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Speaker 1: you're getting guys like you said you had the first person.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about guys two hundred and seventy pounds that

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Speaker 1: are running sub four fives.

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Speaker 3: Crazy people just.

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Speaker 1: Don't get that. That is the difference maker. That is

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Speaker 1: the thing that sets guys apart at the NFL level,

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Speaker 1: big huge guy that can really run. Some of these

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Speaker 1: guys that are three hundred pounds are faster than most

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Speaker 1: people at faster than anybody most people have ever met.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the biggest differences in the NFL

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Speaker 2: today versus the NFL twenty years ago. Is the speed

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Speaker 2: and the athleticism that these big body players are possessing

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Speaker 2: and showing.

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Speaker 1: It's more now balanced. Size and speed have always been

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Speaker 1: the thing, and the bigger you are, the slower you

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Speaker 1: are now, and speed has always been is now becoming

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Speaker 1: more and more and more of an issue because that's

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Speaker 1: the way that the offenses are run. It's a throwing league.

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Speaker 1: You got to run to your spot. So speed has

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Speaker 1: become more important than size because size was predicated on

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Speaker 1: kind of the run game. Now size is just about

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Speaker 1: brushing the passer. The run game is about fits, not

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Speaker 1: run fits, having guys in the right spot, being disciplined,

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Speaker 1: not being big enough just to bowl people over, and

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Speaker 1: so you can You're we're finding out the defenses now

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Speaker 1: are being able to stop the run with just a

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Speaker 1: couple of big guys down inside and everybody else fitting

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Speaker 1: in the right spot. You can have fast guys that

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Speaker 1: do that. It used to be everybody had to be

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Speaker 1: big because you're doing an all game and they weren't

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Speaker 1: doing anything else. Now, of course it's shifted, and now

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Speaker 1: because of that, speed has become more and more important.

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Speaker 1: And you got guys that are playing linebacker that were

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Speaker 1: safeties in the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, times have changed.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting to see and it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: how it evolves back. It always goes back. All these

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Speaker 2: teams are playing these two high split safety looks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the guys now, you're starting to see the run game

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Speaker 2: emerge a little bit more every year.

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Speaker 1: I think it's becoming more about having athletes on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side than it is having skill. You know, guys

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Speaker 1: that can, you know, versatile athletes rather than guys that

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Speaker 1: are you know, one of the guys that coached me

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Speaker 1: when I came in the league is Kenny Houston. He

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Speaker 1: was a sixth or two and twenty five pound corner

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Speaker 1: because that's where he had bea back then six five

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Speaker 1: you may be an edge guy now. So it's the

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Speaker 1: game has vastly changed, vastly changed because of the speed.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of speed, there's a wide receiver who got

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Speaker 2: paid quite a bit of money and he's getting up

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Speaker 2: there in his years, over thirty years old.

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Speaker 3: Soon enough.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by Kaleida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Matty Glab alongside of Steve Tasker for the next few days,

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Speaker 2: as Chris Brown is out for a couple of days

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Speaker 2: and joining some time off, we might as well go

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Speaker 2: around the NFL because there's some things that have been

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Speaker 2: happening in the last couple of days as well as today.

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Speaker 2: Around the NFL is presented by Kalida Health, the official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, And let's start with

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Speaker 2: the most recent thing. Jason Kelcey, center from the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: announced his retirement, called a career after thirteen seasons in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, and I wish we were able to watch

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Speaker 2: his speech because my Twitter timeline right now is amazing speech,

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Speaker 2: all pro speech, best speech that you could have retiring

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Speaker 2: from the NFL. Seemed like Jason got right up to

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Speaker 2: the podium and the tears started to flow before he

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Speaker 2: could even get out a sentence, which I think is

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Speaker 2: how I would be if I spent thirteen years playing

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Travis Kelcey, his brother, the tight end

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Speaker 2: for the Kansas City Chiefs, was also in the crowd

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Speaker 2: and was crying in the club as well.

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Speaker 3: Had a little Kleenex.

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Speaker 2: There, but everybody says that he did an incredible job.

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Speaker 2: So if you have some time to waste this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: or maybe some time to spend this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead and.

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Speaker 2: Watch that forty five minute press conference that Jason Kelsey gave.

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Speaker 1: He sat down, thanked everybody for being there, and he said,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how long this live. He started crying right away.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because most of Bill's people outside of

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Speaker 1: Philly didn't know who Jason Kelsey was up until the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl parade about six years ago when he wore

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Speaker 1: the outfit and and went went right down the line.

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Speaker 1: And then, of course then we find out the people

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Speaker 1: outside the Philadelphia fan base who the guy was, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, Travis Kelsey's brother. They've got a podcast

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Speaker 1: together and the shenanigans that they've put each other through

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and social media. We've kind of gotten to

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Speaker 1: know who he is and and good on him for

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Speaker 1: a retiring and doing it on his own terms. A

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Speaker 1: lot of guys never get a chance to do that.

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Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to do the exact same thing

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Speaker 1: I've I walked away before you know, I got kicked

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Speaker 1: out the door, which everybody does at some point, and

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Speaker 1: getting being able to do it and have a moment

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Speaker 1: where you can thank everybody and say goodbye is pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: and Jason Kelsey did a great job of it today,

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Speaker 1: So if you get a chance, I would recommend to

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Speaker 1: go ahead and listen to it. Travis was in the

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Speaker 1: audience watching, His mom was there watching his speech. You know,

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Speaker 1: his friends and family were in the room as he

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Speaker 1: addressed the media, and it was a great an all

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Speaker 1: too rare moment for a league that has what twenty

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Speaker 1: guys retire every year, He'll hardly ever see it because

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Speaker 1: the twenty most of the twenty guys are would still

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Speaker 1: rather be.

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Speaker 3: Playing, right, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: He played in the NFL from twenty eleven to twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Was with the Eagles his entire career, which

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Speaker 2: you don't see as much anymore, especially somebody who's played thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Seasons in the NFL. That's rare.

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Speaker 2: He came out of Cincinnati, was drafted in the sixth round,

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Speaker 2: and as a Super Bowl champion, a six time first

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Speaker 2: team All Pro, a seven time Pro Bowler, so played

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Speaker 2: in quite a few games, one hundred and ninety three

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Speaker 2: to be exact. Jason Kelcey announcing his retirement today, calling

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Speaker 2: it a career, heading off into the sunset on his

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Speaker 2: own terms, like you said, Steve, congratulations, Yes, elsewhere in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, Mike Evans and the Buccaneers are agreeing to

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Speaker 2: a two year, fifty two million dollar contract extension. Now,

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans is thirty years old, set to become thirty

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Speaker 2: one years old at the end of August, and he

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Speaker 2: is somebody who has posted numbers year after year after year,

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Speaker 2: ten straight one thousand yards seasons. So that's why the

871
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: Buccaneers decided to pay him the big bucks, fifty two

872
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: million dollars over two years.

873
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: What do you think about that, Steve? Were you?

874
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: Were you surprised to see the Buccaneers, uh decide to

875
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: sign him for two more seasons. I was kind of thinking,

876
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: I think he's heading elsewhere. I was a little bit

877
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: surprised to see Tampa Bay and Mike Evans agree on

878
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: this deal. I mean, it's a it's a great number

879
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: for Mike Evans.

880
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's twenty six million a year. I don't know how,

881
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what the specifics are, but two years

882
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: like the I like it both for Tampa Bay and

883
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: for Mike. Obviously, Mike is making a ton of money

884
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: over these two years, but it's also a short term

885
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: deal for the eat for the Bucks. You know they'll

886
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: be done with this cap hit in two years, two seasons,

887
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: and that's you can live with that. He's not going

888
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: anywhere this year. They want him back. I mean, he

889
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: just he just hung another half thousand yard season on

890
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: the thing. He's the best player on their offensive player

891
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: on their team. I like the deal short term. It's

892
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: not a one year it's a two year deal, big

893
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: money for him, and virtually the first year, you know

894
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's guaranteed, so he's gonna get, you know,

895
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: all of that that's coming to him. I think it's

896
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: a really good deal for both sides. Only a two

897
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: year deal, but it's big money they're paying him for it.

898
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: So it's so good on the Bucks and obviously good

899
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: on Mike Evans, who has been nothing but consistent throughout

900
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: his entire career.

901
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: And if they're going to look to keep Baker Mayfield

902
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: in a Tampa Bay Bucks uniform, this is a player

903
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: that you want by your side. This is a player

904
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: that's going to help Baker Mayfield win games. He had

905
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: a twelve hundred yard season last year. Mike Evans did

906
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: thirteen touchdowns. That was close to a career high for him.

907
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: He had fourteen touchdowns in twenty twenty one. He has

908
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 2: not had a season yet below one thousand yards. Very

909
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: few players can say that.

910
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: They've done that.

911
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 2: In fact, I think it's him and one other wide

912
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: receiver in the NFL.

913
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I think, and Tampa Bay doesn't have a

914
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: guy under contract. I'm certainly they're gonna work on Baker Mayfield.

915
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield is absolutely nuts not to take

916
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: whatever offer that the Bucks can make him. Success has

917
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: been elusive for him in the in the NFL, He's

918
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: had moments, but no more than moments. Now. This year,

919
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: getting on the Bucks and playing for them has been

920
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: his best looking stretch and the longest best looking stretch

921
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: of his career. It's only been one season. He's nuts

922
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: to go anywhere else, I think at this point. So,

923
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: but they don't have, they don't have. He's not there right,

924
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: he's free agent.

925
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 3: He's a free agent.

926
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Bucks got to do something otherwise. If they let Mike

927
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Evans walk there, they're neck deep in trouble. So I

928
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: don't I think of the two players, I think Mike

929
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Evans had more leverage even than Baker Mayfield, even though

930
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback. So we'll see.

931
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 7: I just.

932
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: You try trying to build a roster's best you can.

933
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: This is a great way to do it if you're

934
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Get a short term, big money contract to

935
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: the guy that's really been the most consistent offensive performer.

936
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: So I'm I don't know how consistent he's gonna be

937
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: able to be. He's done it through everybody. Of course,

938
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: he had you know, Tom Brady now you know, now

939
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: he's had you know, think about it. Jameis Winston was

940
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: there for a minute.

941
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: I mean, they had played with quite a few climax.

942
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: That says something. He's on the He's on the verge

943
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: of being a Hall of Fame caliber player. He's certainly

944
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: on that trajectory. But I think when you talk about

945
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: n he's got to having a few more thousand yards

946
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: on his resume.

947
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: And the Bucks seem to be in a space where

948
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: they have some money to spend. Forty four is what

949
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: they're estimated to have in terms of cap space. But

950
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: you have a few big names that are free agents

951
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: that you may want back on the team. Mike Evans

952
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: has already agreed to a two year extension but you

953
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: also have players like Baker Mayfield, Devin White, Levonte, David Antwine,

954
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: Winfield Junior. Those are a few big names that are

955
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: free agents. Are you going to try and keep all

956
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: those guys? I don't know if that's possible, but you're

957
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: probably gonna want to keep your most talented players, especially

958
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: if you believe Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans have something together. Right,

959
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: And I think it's great to see a wide receiver

960
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: who is thirty years old, set to become thirty one

961
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: before the season starts, and is still getting paid this

962
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: type of money.

963
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I love the deal for both sides. I

964
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: love it. It's short term, big money.

965
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: All right, Break time for us.

966
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: When we return, we're asking you a question, how has

967
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: your perception changed about the Bills draft needs following the

968
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: NFL Combine?

969
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: Give us a call.

970
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: Eighth three five point fifty will be answering calls after

971
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: this break where One Bill's Live or presented by Clidah

972
00:51:43,440 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

973
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

974
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of One Bill's Live from

975
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: One Bill's Drive. We are fresh off the combine back

976
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 2: in the studio. It was fun to do a week

977
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: of shows in Indianapolis. But we trudge on into free agency,

978
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: which begins on March thirteenth at four o'clock is when the.

979
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: New league year officially starts.

980
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: March fifth, which is tomorrow, is the deadline to franchise

981
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: tag place that on players, So it'll be interesting to

982
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: see what comes out of that in the next twenty

983
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: four hours. Is that deadline is four o'clock on March fifth,

984
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: and then the NFL Draft at the end of April.

985
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: This next month and a half is going to fly

986
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: on by. As we approach the NFL Draft, the Bills

987
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: have ten picks, their first one twenty eighth in the

988
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: first round is when they will be on the board first.

989
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: Unless Brandon Bean decides to move on up, which we

990
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: have seen him do in the last couple of seasons,

991
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: move up to go get your guy.

992
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: He always seems to move up. We'll see, and so

993
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: we've gone over the pick. They can take their first

994
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: and second round picks, the twenty eight and the sixty pick,

995
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: and that would get him all the way up to

996
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: the seventeen or eighteen pick between Jacksonville and Cincinnati.

997
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: So if they really love s if they wanted.

998
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: To love somebody want to spend that kind of capital,

999
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: that's as far as they can go with two picks.

1000
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: I wonder.

1001
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't think any of those wide receivers would be available.

1002
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Those top three guys will probably be gone by the

1003
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: time the Bills if they wanted.

1004
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: To move up into the teens.

1005
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: That is when a lot of the offensive tackles and

1006
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: cornerbacks are going to start to go off the boards.

1007
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: With what I've seen in a lot of the mock

1008
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: drafts that I've been looking at. Now, this is pre combine,

1009
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how the mock drafts change

1010
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: post combine, which we will have a mock Draft Watch

1011
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: three point zero coming out on Friday afternoon, so Chris

1012
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: Brown and myself will get into that. We've got a

1013
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: question for you today, though, How has your perception changed

1014
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: about the Bills draft needs following the NFL Combine. You

1015
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: can tweet at us or give us a call at

1016
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: eighth three, five point fifty, but we have Butch on

1017
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: the line, so we'll get right over to Butch. Butch,

1018
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: how are you doing today?

1019
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 7: Good, Maddie, Matty, Steve, good work, Happy Monday. Do you guys, Maddie.

1020
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 7: I want to just say, first of all, I always

1021
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 7: call you to queen a. Do you Chris and Chris

1022
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 7: did a one outstanding job this past week. I'm very

1023
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 7: I was very happy watching you guys performing and doing

1024
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 7: your thing.

1025
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: Now.

1026
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 7: I called really reason because Maddie, you had a guest

1027
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 7: at one when I got what Dad was, but you

1028
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 7: had Matt Miller sit down with you. You and you

1029
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 7: and Chris and Matt really hit it on something that

1030
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 7: I spoke about, uh maybe a few weeks before he

1031
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 7: even went to the combine. And I know a lot

1032
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 7: of people are wishing that the Bills move up and

1033
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 7: get to get a wide receiver. But as you know, Maddie,

1034
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 7: it's about nine wide receivers and go in the first round.

1035
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 7: And at the same time, it is deep in wide receive.

1036
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 7: This this draft is real deep and rich. And like

1037
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 7: Steve and Steve and Chris and I always talk about

1038
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 7: the young players being being coached up. That's that was

1039
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 7: one of the things. These players are ready to play now.

1040
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 7: The reason why I brought Matt Miller up. Matt Miller

1041
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 7: on your stage stated something that I was saying was

1042
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 7: that if it was up to me. I'm going to

1043
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 7: move back in the draft. And his player that he

1044
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 7: targeted was the same player that I targeted, and his

1045
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 7: name was Jackson Johnson Powers and the center from Oregon.

1046
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 7: And I really believe that if we get him, we

1047
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 7: solidify that offensive line, protect Josh Allen, get more Secret

1048
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 7: Service agents to protect him and keep him up right,

1049
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 7: I think we can get a receiver in the second

1050
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: or in the second round or the third round. If

1051
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 7: we moved back to the second and beginning the second,

1052
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 7: we could pick up an extra two. I still believe

1053
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 7: we can get the safety out of Miami. And at

1054
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 7: the same time, I believe we could pick up a

1055
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 7: couple of receivers and it might not be big ones,

1056
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 7: like you know, it's on the top of the board,

1057
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 7: but I really believe with some good pickings there. Watching it,

1058
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 7: watching the combine, I was watching the way it will

1059
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 7: work and performing. It's a lot of people going to

1060
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 7: surprise a lot of people. Like I used to tell Steve,

1061
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 7: don't lett you go and thanks for taking my call.

1062
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 7: Is like I used to tell Steve when he came

1063
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 7: up and I said, Steve, how many players on your roster?

1064
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 7: When he was in Houston that you thought that you

1065
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 7: were a better day, but they might have been pick tying.

1066
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 7: And I think it's a lot of players like that

1067
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 7: in his draft. And I just wanted again to say,

1068
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 7: great work, but I really want the Buffalo Bills to

1069
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 7: look at that center for Orgon. Thanks so much, guys.

1070
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 7: You guys have an outstanding day, and thanks for taking

1071
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 7: my call.

1072
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: All right, thank you?

1073
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: Butch So, Yeah, Matt Miller had a mock draft which

1074
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: came out, I want to say early February or middle

1075
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: of January. It was one of the really early ones

1076
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: that we tracked, and he had the Bills taking Jackson Powers.

1077
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: Johnson a center out of Oregon. He's six ' three

1078
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: three twenty eight And I asked him, you know, you

1079
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: had the Bills taking a center with their first pick.

1080
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: Why did you have them going center when the wide

1081
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: receiver draft class is incredible this year, or maybe there's

1082
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: some defensive linemen around And his explanation was that this

1083
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: player could also be a goal in the NFL and

1084
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: could move over to center whenever the Bills decide they

1085
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: need a center. Mitch Morse is under contract for one

1086
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: more season, so that center spot isn't a desperate need

1087
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: this next season. It'll be interesting to see what happens

1088
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: with Mitch Morse after the season. He is getting up

1089
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: there in his NFL career is going to be I

1090
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: want to say thirty two this season. I went to

1091
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: college with Mitch Morse. We graduated together, so we are

1092
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: about the same age. So I always laugh when people

1093
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: start to call him old, because I am. I would

1094
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: like to think that I am not old yet. So

1095
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, Mitch, you are not old. Do not let

1096
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: people tell you that, but anything exactly exactly, And that

1097
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: could become a need for the Bills if they decide

1098
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: to move on for Mitch Morse after his contract is up,

1099
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: or if Mitch Morse decides to retire from the NFL.

1100
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: But I did think it was interesting that he had

1101
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: the Bills drafting a center with that first pick when

1102
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: in mid I just think there's a couple needs that

1103
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: are a little bit more not a little bit, are

1104
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: more immediate than the need for a center or a guard.

1105
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 3: Right he did say, Hey.

1106
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: If this guy is available at that point in the draft,

1107
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: I think the value you can't miss, that type of

1108
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: value that you would get for a player like Jackson

1109
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: powers Johnson because he is such a great player. What

1110
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: do you think about offensive line With that.

1111
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: First part, I think they like Ryan Bates a lot too.

1112
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: And Ryan Bates has played center and was backing Mitch

1113
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: up this year, although you know, you never got on

1114
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the field because of the fact that Mitch was you know,

1115
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: so durable. So I don't feel like they would be

1116
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: left empty even if Mitch Morris went down to injury

1117
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: this year, let alone, you know, drafting a guy that

1118
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: backs him up.

1119
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 7: So I.

1120
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: Get it. Mitch has proven himself to be a guy

1121
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: that I mean, the rest of the offensive lineman call

1122
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: him Dad. That's the kind of leader ship he's got

1123
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: is kind of you know, the respect he garners in

1124
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: the room. So no question they would there would be

1125
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: a void there if he left. But I do think

1126
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: on the field and practically speaking, they've got some guys

1127
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: that could fill in. I think that's why Ryan Bates

1128
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: they I think that's why Ryan Bates signed back here.

1129
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: He thought, you know, he might be the heir apparent

1130
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: to Mitch. If Mitch decides after this year, he you know,

1131
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: does does what Jason Kelsey did, you know, hang it up? Yeah,

1132
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: I I'm not spending this year's first round draft pick

1133
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: on a center. I just won't do it. That's it's

1134
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: a it's a position of strength right now because of Mitch.

1135
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: It's a position with depth because of Ryan Bates. So

1136
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm and to spend a first round draft pick. Yeah,

1137
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. I'm not doing it. The guy

1138
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: may be a great player, but I think that it

1139
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: could not have been. It could not be a more

1140
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: ill timed pick at this point for him to fall

1141
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: for the right guy to fold the Bills now at

1142
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: number one, when they have, you know, at this point

1143
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: and obvious need. Now, there's nothing says that doesn't change

1144
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: in two weeks when free agency opens up and the

1145
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: Bills sign you know whoever, like like out of the

1146
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: like some crazy thing like the AJ Brown ends up

1147
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: on the Bills. Right well, okay, well now all right,

1148
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: I'll listen. But there better not be a defensive lineman

1149
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: that's better than your center from Oregon, you know what

1150
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean? Because there are other needs and like I said,

1151
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: they've got if they fill those needs in free agency,

1152
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: which they're going to try to do, depending on how

1153
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: we think about all those spots will be how free

1154
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: we think we are to spend the first round, you know,

1155
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: twenty eighth pick on you know, on the center from

1156
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: from Oregon, or a defensive lineman rather than a wide receiver.

1157
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: So you know, barring anything unforeseen, that's kind of where

1158
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm at.

1159
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: I think it's important to think about the first round

1160
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: two with the value that you get in terms of

1161
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: a contract, in terms of what you're paying that player,

1162
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: in relation to what those position groups are worth in

1163
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: the NFL, top tier talent of those position groups are

1164
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: worth in the NFL. When you're thinking about contract extensions

1165
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: that second contract, would it be better to decide to

1166
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: draft a wide receiver or a defensive tackle or an

1167
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: edge rusher, knowing if you get the right guy, how

1168
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: much those guys cost on open market? Right, that's white

1169
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: a bit of money.

1170
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: That's a huge value, no question.

1171
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: If you hit on something like that.

1172
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: If you hit on it's different. You hit on a

1173
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber center in the first round, the

1174
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: value is the value is not as great as it

1175
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: is if you hit on a Hall of Fame player

1176
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: at wide receiver or quarterback. It's a it's a great

1177
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: point by you. If you hit on the guy. Of

1178
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: course you go back. Nobody cares, but you get benefit

1179
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: from it, and you get a hall of fame kid

1180
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: playing like that in his first four years. You ain't

1181
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: paying him like a hall of famer. You're paying him

1182
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: like an hourly wage journer, right, I mean he's making

1183
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: twenty bucks an hour. We're saying it's not. He's not

1184
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: making CEO money, and you're and he's a hall of fame,

1185
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's one of those hall of fame guys.

1186
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: So that you want to hit on the money spots

1187
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: at the high in the high end of.

1188
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: The dragons have to think that way, knowing what their

1189
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: cap number is and knowing the work that they need

1190
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: to do to become cap compliant over the next few weeks. Yes,

1191
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: they're not a team sitting with now.

1192
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: They got some dollars when the cap went to two

1193
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: fifty five instead of two forty two like we thought

1194
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: it was going to. That's fit thirteen million into their pocket.

1195
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: They do a little bit of an exhil huge, huge, Yeah, Art,

1196
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: We've got another caller hanging on the line. Let's go

1197
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: over to Mark, who's an Orchard Park. Let me get

1198
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: you on, Mark, how are you.

1199
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 8: Doing Mark, Oh, I'm doing fine.

1200
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 3: How we're doing good? What do you have for us today?

1201
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

1202
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 8: You know, I've been on the show a bunch of

1203
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 8: times with Chris and Steve, And actually I'd like to

1204
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 8: thank Steve for signing full size helmet that he had

1205
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 8: done over at TSC, And when Bill polly In and

1206
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 8: Marv Levy were just here, I had to have their

1207
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 8: names put right next to them because they were in

1208
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 8: the individuals that brought him here and he deserves every

1209
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,959
Speaker 8: bit to be in the Hall of Fame. But other

1210
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 8: than that, let's move on. And my main thing is,

1211
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 8: I think we regress. We got a lot of draft picks,

1212
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 8: and we got a head on the first bunch of them,

1213
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 8: but we're losing so many people, eighteen people that we

1214
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 8: have on the free agency list. Obviously we can't sign

1215
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 8: them off. I think the offense is going to be

1216
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 8: pretty stable, but are defense is gonna regress, and how

1217
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 8: can we combat that. Steve has been there, he went

1218
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 8: through the years of you know, the Championship where you

1219
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 8: know Marv Levy and that had to you know, utilize

1220
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 8: different players and bring different people. But in this thing,

1221
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 8: we're going to have to substitute probably a third of

1222
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 8: the team. And I'll let you go on that and

1223
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 8: I'll listen.

1224
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:30,479
Speaker 3: Thanks, Mark.

1225
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are quite a few free agents players who

1226
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 2: are set to become free agents in just a couple

1227
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: of weeks. And if you look at where most of

1228
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: them are coming from, it's the defense. Eight of the

1229
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: twelve defensive linemen who are on this roster last season

1230
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: are set to become free agents. You have quite a

1231
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: bit of work to do at that defensive line position.

1232
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: And then you move to safety, and Mike Hide is

1233
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 2: set to become a free agent. Cam Lewis is set

1234
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: to become a free agent, so is Taylor Rapp. You

1235
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: have some work to do there. And DeMar Hamlin are

1236
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: I believe, the only two safeties, true safeties that you

1237
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: have under contract for next season. And you also think

1238
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: about the linebacker spot. There are quite a few depth

1239
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: pieces to that linebacker position group that are free agents.

1240
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: Tyrel Dodson is one of those guys. AJ Klein is

1241
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: another name. Tyler Metikaevich is another name. You have work

1242
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: to do as well. In terms of death, I really

1243
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: believe it starts at that defensive line spot. I don't

1244
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: want to think of it as regression because you have

1245
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and this team is in a space and

1246
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: is in a place where they are in win now mode.

1247
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: So my mind goes, load back up.

1248
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: Whatever you need to do, you gotta do and contend

1249
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: again to make it all the way. They are talented

1250
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: enough to do so, and I believe they can sign

1251
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: the right players.

1252
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: I really want to see Daikwan Jones extended.

1253
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I would too. Would love to see Day

1254
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: Kwon back, as well as the other guys that were

1255
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: on the team last year. They they are going to

1256
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: look different upfront defensively, and he's right, and you're right, Marque.

1257
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: The defensive side of the ball has the most guys

1258
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: getting washed through. So many guys are out of their

1259
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: contracts and they're going to be free agents. But know this,

1260
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: two thirds of the teams in the NFL are going

1261
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: to be jettisoning a bunch of guys as well. The

1262
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: market's going to be full of players that you would

1263
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: recognize that are going to be available, and Brandon Bean's

1264
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: going to try and sell some of those guys come

1265
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: over here and play, even if it's on a one

1266
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: year deal. You're right, the offensive side of the ball

1267
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: is stable outside of the number two gave Davis spot

1268
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: from last year. I would expect them to pick up

1269
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: right where they left off when the season rolls out.

1270
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: I just this, when you have a roster, to me,

1271
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: this defensive roster kind of rents through that we're gonna

1272
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: see this offseason, I think when they're gonna have so

1273
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: many new faces in the front four and the pass

1274
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: rush and the group that was up there last year

1275
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: from you know, Leonard Floyd and day Kwon Jones and

1276
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, all of that, all those guys. It really

1277
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: to me falls on the coordinator to say, Okay, what

1278
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: do we got and let's let's see if we can

1279
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: do the best we can with it. It's gonna fall.

1280
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: And that's what happened in Kansas City when their receiving

1281
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: room got decimated and Tyreek Hill left and all these

1282
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: other guys left, and they Clyde Edwards, Zilaird didn't work out.

1283
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: They just picked Isaiah Pacheco in the fifth round. You know,

1284
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: they and Andy Reid because he was the head coach

1285
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: and the play caller he made and Alon obviously because

1286
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 1: they got Pat Mahomes. They made Chicken salad out of

1287
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: chicken poop, right what everybody thought. Man, they're gonna struggle. Now,

1288
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: they went to and won the Super Bowl on that year,

1289
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: ye so, and then they followed it up this last year,

1290
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: and that was a credit to the schemes and the

1291
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: players that they had on the roster. And it's gonna

1292
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 1: take Josh Allen, no question about it. Josh changes everything

1293
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: for him. But on the defensive side, they've got Matt Milano,

1294
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna have Terrell Bernard, They've got some guys on

1295
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 1: the outside. I Rasull Douglas, who is a wily veteran.

1296
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: They've got some guy Tarren Johnson, and however, whatever status,

1297
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: Tredevious White comes back in along with Vaughan along with

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01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: Greg Russo they've got some guys coming back that they've

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01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of faith in. Ed Oliver is another one.

1300
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: So I'm as a defensive coordinator, you know, you've got

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Speaker 1: the bones of a really good group and it's gonna

1302
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: fall on Sean McDermott and his staff to get the

1303
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: most out of They're the ones who have to build

1304
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: this thing up from the ground up, and they're the

1305
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 1: ones in particularly in this offseason where the defensive side

1306
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: of the ball, particularly in free agency, is gonna have

1307
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, you know what, this guy we can

1308
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: work with, that guy we can work with, and really

1309
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: hand picked some guys to go after and try and

1310
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: sell on their chance to win a championship here in

1311
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo with a team that's really going to be pretty

1312
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: special on the offensive side. And I think that's where

1313
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: you kind of make your hay. If you're Brandon Bean,

1314
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: you're going out on the road and you're pounding on

1315
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,839
Speaker 1: doors trying to sell and trying to sell your program,

1316
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 1: trying to sell your team, trying to sell your chances

1317
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: of getting guys to say, listen for one year, come in,

1318
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: win a championship in Buffalo, and then hit the market again.

1319
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: And you've got Bobby Babbage as your defensive coordinator. Now,

1320
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: now we're not sure if he's going to be calling plays,

1321
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: because Sean McDermott said, we will determine that when we're

1322
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: ready to do that. But Bobby Babbage is someone who

1323
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: has gotten the best out of quite a few players

1324
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: on this roster. When he was coaching the safeties, he

1325
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: helped Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer to have the careers

1326
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: that they have had an elite safety tandem, so many

1327
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: interceptions out of those two during their time in Buffalo

1328
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: together a sixth round pick and a seventh round pick

1329
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: playing out an elite level. You coach up Terrell Bernard,

1330
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: a third rounder. You coach up Tyrell Dodson who is

1331
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: an undrafted player and came to the Bills and saw

1332
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: an increase in his role start to being a lot

1333
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: more prominent, started to become a starter after Matt Mulano

1334
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 2: came out with that injury. He has gotten the most

1335
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: out of several players who are low draft picks. Why

1336
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: would I not believe in this defense with Bobby Babbage

1337
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 2: leading these guys who has proven time and time again

1338
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 2: to get so much out of these guys, to get

1339
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,879
Speaker 2: a lot out of Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer, Tyrell Dodson,

1340
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: and Terrell Bernard, just to name a few players. So

1341
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna believe in this defensive staff. I'm gonna believe

1342
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 2: in Bobby Babbage and Sean McDermott because they've shown what

1343
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: they can do with sixth and seventh round guys and

1344
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 2: undrafted players and have them play at a pretty high

1345
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: level and contend with some of the best NFL offenses.

1346
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because at the top, at the very end

1347
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: of it, you're still going to run into Kansas City, Cincinnati,

1348
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: Baltimore and you're gonna have to contend with those guys' offense. So, yeah,

1349
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: you're right. The caller was right. It's the defensive side

1350
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: of the ball is going to be the crucial one

1351
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: in this offseason. But I think free agency is going

1352
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 1: to be the place where you see a huge amount

1353
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: of guys come in that maybe you didn't expect, maybe

1354
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: to be able to sign here. It's going to take

1355
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: a cell job by Bob Babbage and Brandon Bean and

1356
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott.

1357
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this defense looks.

1358
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 2: Quite a few players set to become free agents, how

1359
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: many of them come back, how many return We will

1360
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: see here in a few weeks. We're going to take

1361
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 2: a break. When we return, we'll be taking more calls.

1362
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,839
Speaker 2: So give us a call at eighth, three, five fifty

1363
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: and answer our question, how has your perception changed about

1364
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: the Bills draft needs following the NFL combine. We're gonna

1365
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Speaker 2: be back in just a few minutes on One Bill's

1366
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: Live We're presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1367
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 2: We're back here on one Bill's I Mighty Glad alongside

1368
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 2: of Steve Tasker, and we're talking about the NFL scouting combine,

1369
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: talking about the Bills and their first pick at number

1370
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight. What the Bills to do with that if

1371
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: we think anything's going to change now that the combine

1372
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 2: is in the rear view and free agency is ahead

1373
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: of us.

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01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 3: We're going to go to the phones.

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 4: First, Aaron has.

1376
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: Been hanging on the line. Aaron, how are you doing today?

1377
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm doing great. I have a programming question and

1378
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 6: then I have a comment about the draft and everything.

1379
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 6: I took a little week off. I am a daily

1380
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 6: listener to program but after the Chiefs loss, I had

1381
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 6: like set myself up for the Super Bowl. I was

1382
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 6: playing at my party and well it didn't happen. So

1383
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 6: I just needed a little break, needed a little bit

1384
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 6: like Okay, this year's over, until I jumped in to

1385
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 6: thinking about next year. So my question is I can't

1386
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 6: find that. I think it was like February twenty third

1387
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 6: through the thirtieth or something that that week. I can't

1388
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 6: find it anywhere on the Bill's website or anything. So

1389
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 6: if you guys could let me know where I can

1390
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 6: find that, I'd like to go back and listen. And

1391
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 6: then my comment is kind of on draft value, especially

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 6: in that first and second round. You know, I'm an

1393
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 6: Oregon guy, so the Oregon Center sounds cool, but I'd

1394
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 6: like i'd like a more impact position, like you know,

1395
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 6: wide receiver, love Troy Franklin, Admin Mitchell or Brian Thomas.

1396
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 6: If we can't get one of those guys, maybe a

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01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 6: defensive end somebody with you know that that high impact

1398
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 6: position that later on we're going to save a lot

1399
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 6: of money, you know, in their fourth fifth year. So

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01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 6: I just wanted to see what you guys think about that,

1401
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 6: and Mattie maybe who you saw at the combine that

1402
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,959
Speaker 6: that stuck out in those two positions.

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01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely thanks for the call.

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01:14:59,800 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 6: Air.

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: In terms of programming, I believe you can get those episodes.

1406
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: If you can't find them on bills dot Com, you

1407
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: should be able to find them on Spotify or Apple.

1408
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: I would say, wherever you get your podcasts, you should

1409
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: be able to scroll back and find those shows from

1410
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: the week after the Super Bowl, when I think a

1411
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: lot of us were taking a break from the NFL

1412
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: or the week.

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 3: Of the Super Bowl killing or whatever.

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01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: That week was.

1415
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: I needed to take a break in terms of value

1416
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: in the first round and where the Bills are at

1417
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: where they can get to. Here's what I'm hearing from

1418
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: people from draft analysts about where that value lives at

1419
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 2: the end of the first round.

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01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 3: So I'll just lay it out like this.

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01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: There's the We'll break the first round up into three parts.

1422
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: So the first part of the first round, you're gonna

1423
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: see the quarterbacks and the top tier wide receivers go

1424
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 2: off the board. Then we get into the second part

1425
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: of the first round, you're gonna start to see a

1426
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: lot of offensive tackles come off the board. That's where

1427
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: that depth lives, cornerbacks as well. And then you get

1428
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: into the third part, defensive linemen in there, sprinkled in

1429
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: the second tier of the first round of the NFL draft.

1430
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: And then you get into the final part, we'll call

1431
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: it the twenties. From there, you're going to start to

1432
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: see the second half of those wide receivers go off

1433
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: the board. The second half of the first round, wide

1434
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: receivers start to get drafted. Brian Thomas Junior might be

1435
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: around by then.

1436
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1437
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think that he could move up to

1438
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: the teams based on how he tested, based on how

1439
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: he looked in front of NFL scouts and teams try.

1440
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: Franklin Kean Coleman are names that could be available there.

1441
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: Defensive lineman who could be available there. Chob Robinson Darius

1442
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: Robinson are a couple.

1443
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 3: Of names that could be available there.

1444
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 2: But depth wise, I'm hearing wide receiver and defensive linemen

1445
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: is where that depth is going to live, and I

1446
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: think those are two needs for the Buffalo Bills. We'll

1447
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: see what happens in free agency. We'll see if those

1448
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: two position groups as are as much of needs as

1449
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 2: they are right now where we sit right now, not

1450
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 2: knowing what this team is going to do in free agency,

1451
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 2: I would love to see them go after a wide

1452
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: receiver or a defensive lineman in the first round, just

1453
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: knowing that that value is going to be there. Defensive

1454
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: line I point to because this team has eight defensive

1455
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: linemens set to become free agents in just a couple weeks.

1456
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: They had twelve on the roster last season, so they

1457
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: have quite a bit of work to do there. And

1458
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: that value drops off in the second half of the

1459
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: second round. So you're going to get value for defensive

1460
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: linemen at the end of the first round all the

1461
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 2: way through halfway through the second round. So you're going

1462
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: to want to pick pick up guys in that spot

1463
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 2: if you're thinking of these players starting right away, if

1464
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: you're thinking of these guys going to a team and

1465
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: being able to produce and be hopefully be difference makers

1466
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: in the first season. Safety is an interesting spot. We

1467
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: talked to Daniel Jeremiah, who didn't have a safety on

1468
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: his top fifty. He said he wouldn't be surprised if

1469
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: a safety doesn't get drafted until the third round, which

1470
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 2: I thought was crazy.

1471
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: Not that he's crazy, I just.

1472
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: Thought it was wild to think, Wow, we could we

1473
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: could be living in a year where we don't see

1474
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: a safety get drafted until Day two. Until the third round,

1475
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: we'll see. I think there's some good safety value on

1476
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: Day two. It would be interesting to see what the

1477
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: Bills do. I think there are some guys who are

1478
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: who are worthy of being drafted around there.

1479
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: Cornerback.

1480
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: Not sure if that's a need for this team with

1481
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: where they're at. Knowing that you've got Kaye Elam, Christian Benford,

1482
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: and Rusull Douglas under contract next season. Hopefully Trade White

1483
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 2: continues to get healthier and healthier, maybe we see him

1484
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: soon enough as well. When we spoke with Brandon Bean

1485
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: about Matt Mulano and Trudevius White, he really didn't have

1486
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 2: timelines for those guys, said that they're in the building,

1487
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 2: working on getting healthier, working on getting better. Brandon Ban

1488
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: did say for Matt Mulano, you know we're hoping training camp.

1489
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: He starts to do, he starts to practice. He said

1490
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 2: he'd be off to the side in OTAs and things

1491
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: like that. But that's where going back to the question,

1492
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,440
Speaker 2: that's where the value lives, where the Bills will be drafting.

1493
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 3: Steve, what do you think about all that?

1494
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to here's the thing we've talked

1495
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: about it. You can get from if you take the

1496
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: one in the two, twenty eighth and the sixtieth and

1497
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 1: you want to jump up, you can get all the

1498
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: way to seventeen to Jacksonville at seventeen if you give

1499
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: him your twenty eighth pick and your sixtieth pick. Now,

1500
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: if you take your sixtieth pick and your ninety ninth pick,

1501
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: which is the second and third rounders for the Bills.

1502
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: That would get you from sixtieth pick all the way

1503
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: up to fifty up to Philadelphia's second pick, or at

1504
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: least their second round pick fiftieth, So you could move

1505
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: from sixtieth to fiftieth. If you take your ninety ninth

1506
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: and your sixtieth pick and want to move up, you

1507
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: get up ten spots with those two picks, and then

1508
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: if you wanted to take you know, your ninety ninth pick,

1509
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: or then you wouldn't pick again. If you took the

1510
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: fiftieth pick, you wouldn't pick again until one twenty nine,

1511
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: the fourth round. Uh, that ninety ninth pick isn't is

1512
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: a supplemental pick that the Bills are getting because of

1513
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: the losses of free agency. There are six picks after

1514
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: the or I'm sorry, five picks after the third round

1515
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 1: or the second third round that go to different teams.

1516
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: It goes to Philly, San Francisco, Buffalo, the Rams, and Washington.

1517
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: The Bills are between San Francisco and the Rams. At

1518
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: one oh four, it goes from one pick one to

1519
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: twelve to pick on. Uh, I'm sorry, that's not right.

1520
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: Picks ninth, and it goes from ninety seven pick ninety

1521
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: seven through one oh one or supplemental picks to all

1522
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: those teams. So if you Bills wanted to wrap that

1523
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: they get, they could wrap that pick up with the

1524
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: second round, or move up ten spots from the sixtieth

1525
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: pick to the fiftieth pick. Now, if you you can

1526
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: go all the way down, I mean you can move

1527
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: up a few picks. If you want to take the

1528
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: ninety ninth pick and the one twenty ninth pick, the

1529
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo has wrap those together. You could move up only gosh,

1530
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: you can move up to eighty eight, about about eighty

1531
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: eight maybe eighty ninth pick to Green Bay or Tampa.

1532
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: So you can move up some. But that increment the

1533
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,879
Speaker 1: place you can move up to get smaller and smaller

1534
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: as you get, you know, further and further down the draft.

1535
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: So you can take the ninety ninth and the one

1536
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: twenty ninth and move all the way up to eighty eight.

1537
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 3: And what do the Bills need? What do they want?

1538
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 2: Who's sticking out on their draft board? These things will

1539
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: be answered once the Bills are on the clock. It's

1540
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 2: hard to it's hard to tell it's hard to guess

1541
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: how the draft board is going to fall, how the

1542
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: draft is going to come together in that first round.

1543
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: Knowing that, who knows what's going to happen from like

1544
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: picks three through through seven. Okay, you say quarterback is

1545
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: going to go one two? Is there going to be

1546
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: some trades to get up into one two? Are team's

1547
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: going to try and move? Are the Patriots going to

1548
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: draft a quarterback with that third overall pick. There's just

1549
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: so many things that happen ahead of when the Bills

1550
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: are going to pick at number twenty eight, if that's

1551
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 2: where they decide to stay put. That That's why the

1552
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: scouting staff and scouting department goes through mock draft for

1553
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: mock draft after mock draft as they get closer to

1554
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 2: that first round, to be prepared for anything and everything

1555
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: that might happen on Night one of the NFL Draft.

1556
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: I'll say this too. Things happen so fast in this

1557
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: off it seems like it takes forever. We sit here

1558
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: and talk about this for a couple of weeks, and

1559
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 1: we feel like it's never gonna happen. When free agency hits,

1560
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: the entire complexion of the roster is going to change.

1561
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: All these gaps we have in the defensive side of

1562
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 1: the ball are going to be filled. Maybe not with

1563
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: all pro, all world guys, but they're gonna be filled.

1564
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna have at least warm bodies to go in

1565
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be excited about, and the team's gonna

1566
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: be excited about. They're gonna go out and find these

1567
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 1: guys and sell them. And there may be some guys

1568
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: in there we didn't expect to be able to sign

1569
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,560
Speaker 1: who want a chance to win a championship here in

1570
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo and they feel like this is their best way

1571
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: to do it. Those guys are going to be out there.

1572
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,839
Speaker 1: That's what we don't know yet. So this could all

1573
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: these needs and wants could change drastically in the first

1574
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: four or five and certainly in the first couple of

1575
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: weeks of free agency before the draft, and that's gonna

1576
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 1: be the thing that's going to change our outlook about

1577
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: whether to move up or not in this draft. So

1578
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Listen, the Bills have some things

1579
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: that other teams don't. Certainly the culture speaks well here

1580
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, but also the fact that they've got one

1581
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: of the elite quarterbacks in the league. Here in Buffalo,

1582
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: people are gonna stand in line to get a chance

1583
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: at it now, and just like they do in Cincinnati,

1584
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: just like they do in Kansas City, and that kind

1585
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: of thing. So there's a few teams, a handful of

1586
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: teams out there that are really nice landing spots for

1587
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: some free agents who may be in the mindset saying, listen,

1588
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to try and win this thing. You know,

1589
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: I've been flopping around, Like go back in time. You

1590
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: can look at all these guys that played so well

1591
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: and never had a chance like Steve, like Larry Fitzgerald

1592
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: in Arizona played there forever. He didn't want to. He

1593
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: stayed there and was his whole career. So but you

1594
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: could think like after he was in the league for

1595
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: ten years and he played another seven and at a

1596
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career, he could thinking like, I want

1597
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: a chance to win this thing and I'm not getting

1598
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: it here. You know, Steve Smith in Carolina, he did

1599
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: go to one Super Bowl, but that's a guy that

1600
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: was as a wide receiver. In the conversation as an

1601
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: MVP one year, he might say, you know, I want

1602
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: I want a chance to win this thing. I'm gonna

1603
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: go Mike Evans, who just signed with Camp Tampa Bay,

1604
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: if he wouldn't want to hit the free agent market

1605
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: without getting tagged. That's the kind of rationale he goes,

1606
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 1: I've already made fifty million bucks in the league. I

1607
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: want a chance to win a ring. There's gonna be

1608
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: some guys like that out there, not just a wide receiver,

1609
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: but also some of the other positions you've got you

1610
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: can name, and Buffalo's an enticing landing spot, so that

1611
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: gives them a little bit of leverage in that conversation

1612
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: where some of that. There's gonna be some other teams

1613
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: in that conversation too. Don't get your you know, it's

1614
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: not a field of one. It's a field of you know,

1615
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: ten teams out there that people say, you know what

1616
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: I think I got, it might have a chance there.

1617
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: So when this free agency market hits and we start

1618
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: to digest all of that and we see some of

1619
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: those players land where they're gonna land, our perception about

1620
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: where we stand in the draft and what we need

1621
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: in the draft might alter. It might be it might

1622
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: not change at all, but it might be vastly changed.

1623
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be the fun part of this whole thing.

1624
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: I as much as we sit here and talk about this, Maddy,

1625
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 1: and we go on for week on, weeks on, it

1626
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: moves fast at this time, and it changes vastly from

1627
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: day to day, I'm I find it fascinating. We'll find

1628
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: out the two hundred and fifty five million dollar cap

1629
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: is an enormous boost, enormous, and I know it's league wide,

1630
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: but it does change things, and I'm I'm pretty optimistic

1631
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: out what that means for the Buffalo Bills.

1632
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 2: All Right, we're going to take a break here. When

1633
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: we return, we'll dip into the tweet sheets since we

1634
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: haven't done so yet, and close things up here at

1635
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, or presented by Collide Health on Buffalo

1636
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. We're back here on One Bill's Live, and

1637
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure we got this in today.

1638
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: A longtime NFL reporter, Chris Mortenson, who worked for the

1639
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: NFL covering the NFL for more than three decades, died

1640
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 2: on Sunday morning, announced by ESPN, he was seventy two

1641
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: years old. ESPN Chairman Jimmy Pittarro said this in a statement.

1642
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: Moret was widely respected as an industry pioneer and universally

1643
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: beloved as a supportive, hard working teammate. He covered the

1644
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: NFL with extraordinary skill and passion and was at the

1645
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: top of his field for decades. He will truly be

1646
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 2: missed by colleagues and fans, and our hearts and thoughts

1647
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 2: are with his loved ones. He was diagnosed with stage

1648
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: four cancer in twenty sixteen and announced his decision to

1649
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 2: step away from ESPN ahead of the twenty twenty three

1650
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: season to focus on his health, family, and faith. Steve,

1651
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: you have some ties to chrismas well.

1652
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: I was acquainted with him. We had crossed paths in

1653
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: my early days with CBS and covering Super Bowls and stuff,

1654
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: and Chris he was an NFL and Finger quotes those

1655
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: insider guys. And it was obvious from all the things

1656
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: that you've read, if you've read any of the things

1657
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: online where people are offering their condolences and thoughts about him,

1658
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: it's easy to become a guy who general managers and

1659
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: owners and players trust. When you live with integrity, when

1660
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: you say yes and it means yes, and you're saying

1661
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: I won't say anything, or I no means no, it

1662
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: was guy full of integrity, a guy full of wisdom.

1663
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: I know. I came to him on at least one

1664
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: occasion and asked him for some advice, and he had

1665
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: he just knew. He said, listen, here's how they usually

1666
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: do it. And I said, yeah, that makes a lot

1667
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 1: of sense with what I'm seeing. And he just knew

1668
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: how things worked. And I really appreciated his willingness to

1669
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: share and to be vulnerable and being able for a

1670
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: guy like me to come up and ask him some

1671
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: questions and have him have given me the best answers

1672
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 1: he could. You don't always get that in the media industry,

1673
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: you know that, Manny. And to have Chris Mortenson pass

1674
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: away some time stops for none of us. And he

1675
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 1: was a part of you know us here in the NFL.

1676
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: He's part of our lives for a lot of a

1677
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: couple of decades, a lot of decades. And I'm sorry

1678
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,839
Speaker 1: to see her hear of his passing. So Chris Mortenson,

1679
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: God bless your heart and rest in peace. And where

1680
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: the industry's a little bit lesser because he's gone.

1681
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely known by many, a lot of people in

1682
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: the league around the league really loved him. Loved his

1683
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: work and had a lot of respect for him. Tomorrow

1684
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: on the show, we've got Ben Solak from The Ringer.

1685
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 2: He was at the NFL Combine, all around everywhere, saw

1686
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: him over by prospects, saw him on Radio roost Roe.

1687
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 2: So we'll get to talk to him tomorrow. Looking forward

1688
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 2: to that. It'll be me and Steve Tasker back for

1689
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 2: a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live. Enjoy your sunny afternoon,

1690
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.