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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Numbers game with Ryan Grodowski. I'm

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed my conversation with Alex Thompson on his book

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Speaker 1: Original Sin that came out on Monday. I was excited

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Speaker 1: the episode, it came out Memorial Day, so you can

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Speaker 1: listen on whatever streaming platform you're on. I took part

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Speaker 1: in a debate on Tuesday for the group Young Voices.

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Speaker 1: I debated Michael Tracy on the Trump administration's first four

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Speaker 1: months and if the America First Agenda was a net

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Speaker 1: positive for Americans economic prosperity, security, and civil liberties. Was

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Speaker 1: an Oxford style debate, so I couldn't like tell jokes

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Speaker 1: voted before and after whose minds had changed most people

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Speaker 1: like mostly libertarians and liberals, so arguing in favor of

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Speaker 1: but I won, so I was excited, And if you

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Speaker 1: want to watch debate, it's somewhere onlines on social media somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I think it's on x and you can go to

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Speaker 1: Young Voices or my Twitter account and you can watch

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Speaker 1: the full debate. It's a little boring. Michael Tracy talked

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Speaker 1: about Israel, but you know whatever, I kept it. It

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Speaker 1: kept it to the numbers because that's what I'm interested in.

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Speaker 1: So there are two big number data things that were

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Speaker 1: It's a solo episode, but I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of data heavy stuff that really it would be hard

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Speaker 1: I was. So the first is this map that came

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Speaker 1: out from the New York Times over the week, The

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Speaker 1: New York Times tracked every county in the country and

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Speaker 1: how it moved towards Republicans while Trump was the nominee

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Speaker 1: in the last three elections compared to twenty twelve, and

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Speaker 1: how counties moved in the last three elections towards Democrats since

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Speaker 1: Trump became the nominee. So their triple red or triple

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Speaker 1: blue counties, That's how I'm describing them, right Triple Red

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Speaker 1: Triple Blue is obviously moved away from Trump and towards

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Speaker 1: Democrats and every election. Okay, all told, there were one thousand,

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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty three counties that moved to the

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Speaker 1: obviously we know that all counties aren't made equal rights.

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Speaker 1: No major urban areas went more blue since twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: US the rural and exurban counties that moved consecutively. That is,

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Speaker 1: Part can. I talked to Tim Poole about this. He's like, great,

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Speaker 1: Nober means you know, no liberal kids means no liberal future. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it means a lot of people who don't have

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Speaker 1: a clear investment in the future as far as they

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Speaker 1: see themselves, they see their future in the next generation.

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Speaker 1: It means something. It just does your life does change

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Speaker 1: when you have a kid. It does mean that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people experience loneliness. Not everyone who does have

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Speaker 1: a kid is lonely, but there are is a connection

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Speaker 1: between loneliness and no family, no children. It also means

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Speaker 1: a lot of baby boomers today, who you know, they

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Speaker 1: worked hard and they expected this future where they would

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Speaker 1: be grandparents, are experiencing loneliness now because they don't their

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Speaker 1: liberal children. And they're liberal for who knows what reason,

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Speaker 1: never had never had children. It's an end of that

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Speaker 1: entire bloodline, uh, that entire family. And it means and

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Speaker 1: I've ends like this, who are you know there? I

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Speaker 1: would say they're middle world. They're not even liberal, they're

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Speaker 1: kind of left leaning. But they're all in their mid

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Speaker 1: and till eight thirties. They don't have children, and they

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Speaker 1: have smaller families than on my own. And I say

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Speaker 1: to them, they live so heavily in the moment, I

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Speaker 1: have this conversational concert. They live completely in the moment,

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Speaker 1: And I say to them, you're not looking twenty years

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Speaker 1: down the line when your parents aren't here anymore, or

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, not going to as long as humanly possible,

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Speaker 1: when you don't when a holiday is literally being alone,

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Speaker 1: Like that's a very hard thing for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: And we see depression and we see suicides, and we

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Speaker 1: see addiction spike during those time periods that loneliness is

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Speaker 1: getting higher, and it's specifically among a lot of college

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Speaker 1: educated women who are being pressured to one think that

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Speaker 1: they have to work to show that they are worthy,

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Speaker 1: that their work is what they kind to find themselves in.

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Speaker 1: And also because they're in school until their mid thirties

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Speaker 1: and by the time that the opportunity to have children

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Speaker 1: comes up, time has kind of passed them by and

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Speaker 1: no one warned them. There's also a connection between mental

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Speaker 1: health problems in this study and political stuff. Voters under

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Speaker 1: thirty people who are extremely liberal, fifty six percent said

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Speaker 1: that they were diagnosed with a mental health problem. Think

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Speaker 1: about that, people who are very liberal under the age

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Speaker 1: of thirty a majority, So they were diagnosed with a

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Speaker 1: mental health problem. According to the GSS study. If is

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Speaker 1: that there's two questions. Is it that liberalism attracts mentally

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Speaker 1: ill people, which there are times that I could get

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Speaker 1: on board with that message, or is it that very

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Speaker 1: liberal people are trying to diagnose themselves with problems. They're

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Speaker 1: over trying to find a reason that their life isn't well,

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Speaker 1: or that they're not perfect, or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but there is a sliding scale. Fifty

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Speaker 1: six percent of extreme liberals under THEASA thirty have a

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Speaker 1: mental health problem. Thirty seven percent of people who are

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Speaker 1: just regularly liberal have a mental health problem. Thirty percent

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Speaker 1: of moderates have say they have a diagnosed mental health problem,

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Speaker 1: only fifteen percent of conservatives and only ten percent of

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Speaker 1: very conservative people. And this, by the way, this sliding

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Speaker 1: scale people under thirty is not true. People over thirty,

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Speaker 1: over thirty, extreme conservatives, conservatives, moderates all have the same

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Speaker 1: amount sixteen to seventeen percent, liberals twenty four, extreme liberals

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. Okay, slide uptick with extreme liberals and liberals,

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Speaker 1: but not significance. You know, ten points at the most,

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Speaker 1: but it's usually like six, not a lot. Not a

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Speaker 1: big growth among young people, and I would guess specifically

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Speaker 1: young women who are liberal. It is a social contagion.

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Speaker 1: It's wild, in my opinion, and it's not good. It's

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Speaker 1: not a healthy place to be and it will probably

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Speaker 1: mean of a democratic party in the future. That reflects

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Speaker 1: those kinds of voters where you're like, wow, everyone seems

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Speaker 1: like they're diagnosed with the mental health issue. Anyway, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to go to two more things and then

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Speaker 1: is really long, I could go through everything. Other interesting

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Speaker 1: thing that I found on other tidbit was this when

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Speaker 1: it comes to idea of free speech. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: something that we as Americans hold is the greatest ideal.

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Speaker 1: It's something we can generally get a board, get on

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Speaker 1: board despite our politics, right the belief of free speech.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're told. There is a big difference between

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Speaker 1: free speech depending on what you are criticizing. So they

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Speaker 1: ask people, if someone spoke out against all religion, should

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Speaker 1: they be allowed to speak? Seventy nine percent said yes,

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Speaker 1: twenty one percent said no. If someone was in an

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Speaker 1: admitnute and a vowed communist, should they be allowed to speak?

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Speaker 1: Sixty six percent said yes, thirty four percent said no.

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Speaker 1: If someone said that they believe one race was inferior

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Speaker 1: to another, should they be about to speak? Forty nine

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Speaker 1: percent said yes, fifty one percent said no. That is dramatic.

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Speaker 1: Now I do not believe any race is specifically inferior

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Speaker 1: than another race, and I wouldn't get on board with

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Speaker 1: that message, but I do believe that that person has

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Speaker 1: the right to speak, and sometimes it's good that they

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Speaker 1: speak so that way everything is aired out, you can

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Speaker 1: tell who the real racist is, Like I think a

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Speaker 1: communist should be allowed to speak. That is jarring though

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Speaker 1: that we have. This is something that Chrystal Colwell wrote

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Speaker 1: about in his brilliant book, that we had a second

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Speaker 1: Constitution during the Civil rights era, that there is a

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Speaker 1: belief that conversations and discussions over race really triumph over all,

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Speaker 1: and that is something that's very I mean, thank god

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Speaker 1: we have a Supreme Court that's always usually my think,

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Speaker 1: almost always held up the right to speak. But that's

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Speaker 1: nerve racking that the public does feel like some conversations

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Speaker 1: deserve you to take your rights away. That would support

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Speaker 1: things like hate speech laws, which is against our First Amendment.

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Speaker 1: They also asked if somebody had an opinion that if

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Speaker 1: someone was spoken against all religions, should they be allow

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Speaker 1: to teach. Sixty three percent said yes for teaching, but

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Speaker 1: if they have the same opinion over race, only forty

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Speaker 1: nine percent, so that they should be allowed to hold

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Speaker 1: a teaching job. Once again. You shouldn't be allowed to speak,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed to work if you hold unpolite positions.

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Speaker 1: Now it's fifty to fifty. I'm sure it's actually better.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't able to find the data from twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I don't know they asked this question. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 1: better than knowing the racial reckoning. But it says a

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Speaker 1: lot that our rights are conditional to what we say

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Speaker 1: to a lot of people. Okay, last few things that

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Speaker 1: I think are super fascinating. One in four people living

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Speaker 1: in the country have at least one immigrant parent, and

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Speaker 1: only sixty four percent have all four grandparents born in

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Speaker 1: the US. I'm one of the sixty four percent. I

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Speaker 1: thought it'd be higher, honestly, but I guess mass immigration

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Speaker 1: will do that to you. Thirty six percent of people

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Speaker 1: who did not vote in the twenty six sixteen election

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Speaker 1: because they were either too young or they didn't vote,

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Speaker 1: thirty six percent of those people would voted for Trump,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine percent for Clinton. That shows you the projection

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Speaker 1: of where new voters are are still leaning to the right.

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Speaker 1: That's good. The next question and I'll go over Thirty

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Speaker 1: five percent of people say that they attend church once

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Speaker 1: a month or more, thirty three percent attends a few

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Speaker 1: times a year, thirty one percent never attend church. Eighty

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Speaker 1: three percent of Americans believe in life after death, seventeen

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Speaker 1: percent do not. I'm in the eighty three percent camp.

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Speaker 1: Sixty eight percent prey at least once a week, twenty

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Speaker 1: percent never do. Fifty four percent of Americans support prayer

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Speaker 1: in school, despite what the media will tell you, majority

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Speaker 1: of Americans support prayer in school, Forty six percent do not.

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Speaker 1: Twenty percent of Americans believe you should have the right

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Speaker 1: to discriminate when selling a home. You should be able

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Speaker 1: to sell your home to whoever you want to depending

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Speaker 1: on your own biases. Majority of Americans obviously do not.

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Speaker 1: About a quarter of Americans support affirmative action when it

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Speaker 1: comes to hiring minorities seventy three percent a pose which

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Speaker 1: also not a thing that the media would ever sit

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Speaker 1: there in track. I'm sure if I sit on seen

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Speaker 1: it and I'd be banned all over again, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll go over the last thing. Thirty six percent of

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Speaker 1: Americans own a firearm, be one percent believe it is

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Speaker 1: better for a man to be the breadwinner and household

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Speaker 1: and the woman to be a homemaker. Interesting stuff, interesting data.

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Speaker 1: I thought you guys would like it. I enjoy that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Once again. It's one hundreds of pages long.

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Speaker 1: You could download it for free the General Social Survey.

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Speaker 1: I highly recommend. It's just fascinating. Let's get to let's

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Speaker 1: land this plane. Let's get to the question answer. If

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Speaker 1: you have a question for me, you can email me

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Speaker 1: Ryan at Numbers Game podcast dot com. Ryan at Plural

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Speaker 1: Numbers Game podcast dot com. You're listening to It's a

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Speaker 1: Numbers Game with Ryan Grodowski. We'll be right back after

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Speaker 1: this message. This email comes from Russell Klugg. Russell says, Hello, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: burn through all your episodes on a recent new show. Congrats.

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Speaker 1: Interest in your work sparked from an older conversation you

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Speaker 1: had with Emily Jazinski last year on Breaking Points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know I was on that show. I haven't had

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Speaker 1: me on a long time now, where you responded humorously

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Speaker 1: that to a Karen led online Democratic fundraiser for Harris

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Speaker 1: or something, wanting someone to say, ma'am, this is a

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Speaker 1: Wendy's to the lead. Karen, Oh, yeah, that was true.

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Speaker 1: This is when they were like, it's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: like white women for Harris, and they were like giving

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Speaker 1: context of what you should say and when and not

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Speaker 1: to hurt anyone's feelings. And oh my god, how exhausting.

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Speaker 1: Two questions. And if you had numbers on them. Do

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Speaker 1: Democrats have a smug elitist problem? Are they perceived by

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Speaker 1: the average person or majority of the population is arrogant

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Speaker 1: or out of touch? If so, does this perception change

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Speaker 1: based on respondence being in out group Democrat Republicans? Do

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Speaker 1: Republicans and independence know how democrats think see the world

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Speaker 1: versus Democrats cannot understand how Republicans and independency the world. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let me answer the second question. First, there is

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Speaker 1: a general misperception on many things when it comes to

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Speaker 1: both the opposite party, when it comes to what people

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Speaker 1: think Republicans versus what people think Democrats believe. Right, there

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Speaker 1: is a general belief also that the country as a

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Speaker 1: whole is different than what it is. Right, This is

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Speaker 1: not just this is just based on your personal bias.

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Speaker 1: So there was there was this one study and I

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Speaker 1: can't remember everybody do with the data. So we asked

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Speaker 1: Americans how many people do you think in this country

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Speaker 1: are live in New York City? Thirty percent said? They

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Speaker 1: said thirty percent that they lived in New York City.

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Speaker 1: It's three percent. They asked, how many people you think

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Speaker 1: are transgender? They said twenty one percent, it was one percent.

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Speaker 1: How many people have a household income of over a million?

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Speaker 1: They thought it was twenty percent. It's less than one percent.

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Speaker 1: They asked, how people do you think are gay? They

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Speaker 1: said thirty percent. It's like three percent or openly gay.

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Speaker 1: There's another six percent or bisexual whatever. The numbers were

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Speaker 1: wildly off, and that is as true for Republicans as

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Speaker 1: it is for Democrats. There's been a number of studies

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Speaker 1: and about how misperception within the parties exists. But it's

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Speaker 1: not just within the parties. It's within the greater context

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Speaker 1: of the of the of the country. Like they the

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Speaker 1: average person is not always finally in tune with the

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Speaker 1: actual percentages of the country and how and what they

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Speaker 1: actually believe. Do they have a smug or elitist problem?

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Speaker 1: It depends who right, It depends who in the party.

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders does not have a smug or elitist problem.

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders can go on a comedy podcast and talk

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Speaker 1: about the history of the Dodgers and have a normal conversation.

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris had a smug or elitist problem, I would

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Speaker 1: say AOC could have a No, I don't think it's this.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's a smug Reliaus. She has a

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Speaker 1: different problem, but it's not a smug or elatest problem.

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Speaker 1: She definitely comes off more regular. Pete Footage just does

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Speaker 1: not have a smug or elitist problem. He's a different

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Speaker 1: problem when it comes to winning a national election in

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Speaker 1: the sense that black voters in the Democratic Party, I

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Speaker 1: don't believe we're gonna lect a gay guy. Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: has a smug an elitist problem. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: as a party as a whole, they can answer that

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Speaker 1: question when it comes to certain cannons. Yes, but it's

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Speaker 1: not every candidate in the Democratic Party. And you could

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Speaker 1: see the ones who don't have it, the ones who

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Speaker 1: come off more you know, regular, regular Joe. They they

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Speaker 1: are the leading contenders for the Democratic nomination. I think

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Speaker 1: when you come, I think I think the better question

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Speaker 1: is not really the elected officials as much as it

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Speaker 1: leadiest problem, Steven Spielberg, obviously a tailor swift, Oprah Winfrey.

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Speaker 1: These are all celebrities or they're left wing influencers who

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Speaker 1: either look like they are they have a missing chromozoon

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Speaker 1: or an extra one. There's something like wrong with these people.

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Speaker 1: They are very, very very far to the left. So

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Speaker 1: I think that when you look at the representation of

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Speaker 1: who who is out there talking with the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: so often, yes, the act elected officials who have to

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Speaker 1: get votes, it's a mixed back anyway. I hope that

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Speaker 1: answers your question. If I find any more information on this,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna bring us up next week on the

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Speaker 1: podcast to talk about this. I think it's an interesting subject.

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Speaker 1: But I will look for that for on Monday. So

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Speaker 1: tune in, please like in, subscribe to this podcast on

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I will see you on Monday with a special guest.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you then,