Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Twirled, a podcast that once chronicle
Speaker 1: two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: but they watched a season and somehow walked away experts.
Speaker 1: From there, we ventured into Traders, the show I'd never
Speaker 1: seen but Will swore he could win. And now we
Speaker 1: turned to Survivor season fifty, the big One. This time
Speaker 1: the roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly one season
Speaker 1: the first. Meanwhile, I've watched for years. We are wilfrid l,
Speaker 1: who prefers his wilderness with room service, and Right or Strong,
Speaker 1: who will hike any mountain but hates the beach. Two
Speaker 1: best friends, one devoted to the comforts of civilization, one
Speaker 1: who would never leave the woods if he could. Both
Speaker 1: reality competition scholars join us as we dive into alliances, blindsides,
Speaker 1: fire making, sand related misery, and twenty five years of
Speaker 1: television history culminating in a massive season. This is Pod
Speaker 1: Meets Twirled, Seeking Immunity. Okay, should we start recapping the
Speaker 1: show now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right? So always, you know, they always arrive on
Speaker 1: an island in a big group on you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: they've done seasons where they're like on a pirate ship
Speaker 1: or like a big boat. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: they get to a location like this and they all
Speaker 1: just kind of stand there and meet each other. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In this case is really interesting because they all have
Speaker 1: history with the show before. Yea, all have known.
Speaker 2: Of each other if they each other, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They've been a part of each other's seasons. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: this is an interesting one, and it's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of names. There's a lot of people to keep up with,
Speaker 1: so I'm not really sure how we're going to go
Speaker 1: through this, and like even we're going figure we're going
Speaker 1: to figure out who they are.
Speaker 2: And obviously as they people get weeded out, it's going
Speaker 2: to be easier to remember everybody.
Speaker 3: It's like Traders. Do you remember who did the first
Speaker 3: twenty four people in Traders? Of course not, So we'll
Speaker 3: get there.
Speaker 1: Overwhelming overwhelming, by the way.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing I will say. It is a
Speaker 2: It was a three hour.
Speaker 1: Premiere, two hours three really.
Speaker 2: I watched it on CBS.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you had the commercials, right, I had the
Speaker 1: commercial So I watched it on Paramount Plus, so I
Speaker 1: guess it was well commercial.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you watch without commercials, there's no commercials on
Speaker 3: Paramout Plus. Okay, so I have to get Paramoutplus. But
Speaker 3: it was a three hour premiere. Yeah, it is not
Speaker 3: hyperbole when I say there is nothing, and I mean
Speaker 3: nothing I want to do for three hours you name it, sex,
Speaker 3: eating a good meal, watching a movie for three hours. No,
Speaker 3: there's nothing I want to.
Speaker 2: Do for three hours.
Speaker 1: Too much Survivor.
Speaker 3: Too much Survivor as the opening gambit, do an hour
Speaker 3: maybe two hour long thing.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The ads were insufferable towards the end. They were coming
Speaker 3: every five second.
Speaker 1: I can't watch commercials, so I'm.
Speaker 3: Just gonna I'm gonna sign up for Paramount Plus today.
Speaker 3: So you watched it the same.
Speaker 1: Night, you watch it today, I watch it the next.
Speaker 2: There you go that. So I have to watch it
Speaker 2: the next day without commerce.
Speaker 1: Yes what I got it? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: I watched it live and yeah, it goes up in
Speaker 3: Paramount the next morning.
Speaker 2: So I watched it live. Yes, again, nothing I want
Speaker 2: to do for three hours straight? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think after because you know, normally a
Speaker 1: typical episode ends with tribal council and right the one
Speaker 1: person getting voted out, and so it did feel a
Speaker 1: little long when it continued into the next day, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what are we doing and turns out
Speaker 1: we're following.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ended it was it was yeah, it was
Speaker 3: Batman Returns and you are the second Christopher Nolan Batman
Speaker 3: where you finished up with the Joker, and you're like,
Speaker 3: great movie.
Speaker 2: And it's like, wait, now there's two fays you should
Speaker 2: have ended this. You should have ended this. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 1: All right. So the main characters that we meet in
Speaker 1: this first beach scene, I guess would be Jenna, who
Speaker 1: is from the first season. Yeah, and I thought she
Speaker 1: like amazing shape considering she did this twenty year twenty
Speaker 1: five years years ago.
Speaker 2: Twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1: God, yeah, so she was only like twenty when she
Speaker 1: did it or something. I mean, they all still look
Speaker 1: so good, people who have did it, you know, fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago. I'm like, how are they not? Like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm an old I'm an old dude. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this going like I would not fit
Speaker 1: in on this beach.
Speaker 3: Yep, I thought the same thing. It's like, well, there's
Speaker 3: no way I'm going to go anyway. But still, and
Speaker 3: so Mike White is there and yeah, you know who
Speaker 3: he is, right of course, and the second he got there,
Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, the guy who created
Speaker 3: School of Rock is here.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like, so he's done amazing race with his dad,
Speaker 1: and he's a fan favorite. He's actually an incredible player
Speaker 1: because he's socially wonderful in that he he reads people
Speaker 1: really well. He doesn't manipulate or lie. Okay, for the
Speaker 1: most part, he's just beloved people just like him and
Speaker 1: they don't usually expect like a celebrity version of the show. No,
Speaker 1: he just always wanted to be on because it was
Speaker 1: before White Lotus. It was you know, he was at
Speaker 1: that time essentially like I guess he had done some
Speaker 1: acting because I think he was in some of his movies.
Speaker 1: He was in School of Rock, he is Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: he would give himself a small part, but no, he
Speaker 1: was mostly like a nerdy TV writer and he was
Speaker 1: just the biggest fan. And you know, now he's arguably
Speaker 1: the most successful lauded writer on television and doing it
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, isn't he great? Like that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Every he's beloved like he is, He's a beloved and
Speaker 1: so it's really cool to see that he's coming back
Speaker 1: and doing it because lord, knows he doesn't need the money.
Speaker 3: And they even say that, they're like, you don't have
Speaker 3: to be here, and he's like, no, I want to be.
Speaker 1: Here, exactly want to do And you know, I love
Speaker 1: that he even like gets choked up in that one
Speaker 1: part when he's like, I've been in moments when I'm
Speaker 1: working on White Lotus because apparently he writes every episode
Speaker 1: of White Loads himself and directs them all.
Speaker 2: Do you hear how long the shoot was?
Speaker 1: No, he says it when he goes it's.
Speaker 3: Like one hundred and thirty five days of shooting, strange directing.
Speaker 1: He's writing and directing everything, and you and I know
Speaker 1: what that means. That's like, usually you have a showrunner
Speaker 1: who has a team of writers writing scripts underneath them,
Speaker 1: and then a team of directors underneath them. So the
Speaker 1: showrunner doesn't write every episode and direct every episode, and
Speaker 1: he does. Yeh, that's insane to me. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the fact that he is taking a break from that
Speaker 1: show to go do this.
Speaker 3: Just be shooting a movie every day for five months, right,
Speaker 3: that's nuts.
Speaker 1: So then there's this guy Devon's Rick Devons, who the
Speaker 1: idol guy who's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh whatever, yeah, guy yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't remember this guy, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what seasons he's from, but he seems like quite a character.
Speaker 1: And I guess his whole jam is that he always
Speaker 1: finds the idols or whatever, and I love that he
Speaker 1: just started looking for an idol.
Speaker 2: They also allude to the fact is he a weatherman
Speaker 2: or a local newscaster or something like that. I think they.
Speaker 3: Alluded to that where they're like, he's the local weather
Speaker 3: guy or something like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Then you've got Siri, who is probably like one of
Speaker 1: the most beloved survivor people. She's lovely and it's you know,
Speaker 1: her story is that she like.
Speaker 2: Got on the couch. I figured that out.
Speaker 1: Okay, I forget that's and it's it's true remarkable, like
Speaker 1: how far she's gone and how far she's gone on
Speaker 1: the show, because I think she's done it like three
Speaker 1: or four times. And she's a great player.
Speaker 2: And again like not so much with the physical stuff.
Speaker 1: No, no, she always manages to I mean, like you
Speaker 1: see in this episode, because she's lovely. Yeah, everyone likes her,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and yeah, be my superpower.
Speaker 2: I just get to try to get everybody.
Speaker 1: To like me, which is great. I mean that's basically
Speaker 1: Mike does Mike White does that, Sar does that. I
Speaker 1: think some of the smartest players, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest strategies is to just partner with
Speaker 1: like a really strong.
Speaker 2: Physical like like a giant guy like John.
Speaker 1: If you're like a social player, just latch yourself onto
Speaker 1: that person, help them, tell them who to vote for,
Speaker 1: you know, and hopefully they trust you. So you see
Speaker 1: these kinds of partnerships evolve, you know, where it's like
Speaker 1: right and and that's something that I think maybe also
Speaker 1: as a part of the new era versus the old era,
Speaker 1: because it used to be like such an individual game
Speaker 1: that people would just like rise and fall based on
Speaker 1: like just showing up in. Now everybody kind of comes
Speaker 1: in knowing what their angle is going to be. Am
Speaker 1: I going to be a challenge person. Am I just
Speaker 1: going to be an alliance builder? Am I going to
Speaker 1: be a villain ish type person?
Speaker 3: Right? Gonna?
Speaker 1: You know, and you see that that's also interesting.
Speaker 3: You see people that are clearly also trying to fight
Speaker 3: against whatever previous persona.
Speaker 1: That that's what makes this season want yes to me?
Speaker 1: And that's that's what you're that's probably what's going to
Speaker 1: be the most confusing aspect of this for you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just and luckily they're spelling it out, you know,
Speaker 1: like they're saying, like Ozzie's like I got taken advantage
Speaker 1: of every time, I'm not going to do that again,
Speaker 1: and so you you know, hopefully they'll just keep spound
Speaker 1: that out, because yeah, even though I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of seasons, when I'm watching this, I'm I'm having a
Speaker 1: hard time keeping track.
Speaker 3: It was like, wait, what was Colby known for? I
Speaker 3: remember the Colby one. I remember parts of the Colby season. Actually, Okay,
Speaker 3: so I must have seen like a season and a
Speaker 3: half because.
Speaker 1: I remember it's done more than one. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 3: I think it was the second season because if memory serves,
Speaker 3: the thing that made him so famous was the fact
Speaker 3: that he essentially voted in such a way at the end,
Speaker 3: guaranteeing so somebody other than him one like he gave
Speaker 3: it away. He could have, if memory serves, he could
Speaker 3: have voted somebody out, which then left the villain and
Speaker 3: him and everybody loved him. Or he could have voted
Speaker 3: the villain out and there was an older woman there
Speaker 3: who really needed the money, and he essentially knew.
Speaker 2: He was giving it away.
Speaker 3: Wow, and that's what he did, and he became hugely
Speaker 3: honorable player. And then he went on from him right, Yes,
Speaker 3: I love totally Team Colby. So I watched another show
Speaker 3: he hosted called Top Shot, where it's just all the
Speaker 3: best marksmen from around the world doing all these different
Speaker 3: shooting challenges. And I watched like three seasons of the
Speaker 3: act and I find it totally fascinating, and he just
Speaker 3: seems like a man's man, completely honorable.
Speaker 2: What you see is what you get. I dig that
Speaker 2: I'm teaking.
Speaker 1: In general, I like a lot of these people. Yes,
Speaker 1: I like almost everybody except Coach for reasons that I've
Speaker 1: already expl again, yeah, I don't know him, so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not there are There have been seasons of Survivor
Speaker 1: that are just toxic where you're just like really, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and sometimes intentionally so like one of the most interesting,
Speaker 1: like sort of devastating seasons was they divided people by
Speaker 1: race on purpose. Yes, so they all showed up on
Speaker 1: the beach and then they were like, we're doing something
Speaker 1: different this year, and all the Asian people, all the
Speaker 1: black people, all the white people, and it was sing
Speaker 1: weird dude, Oh, I know, and it was weird for them.
Speaker 1: And then of course they all had to come together eventually,
Speaker 1: because eventually you come down to an individual game, you
Speaker 1: just form one tribe together. It was really weird, you know,
Speaker 1: and it led to a lot of awkward conversations. As
Speaker 1: a course, they've done it where they've split them by generation,
Speaker 1: so they did like a generation Gen X versus millennials,
Speaker 1: and you saw like how the different stre like how
Speaker 1: you and they were sort of they sort of forced
Speaker 1: you to consider like what does it mean to be
Speaker 1: a member of this race or a member of this
Speaker 1: generation and identifying as part of that or not rejecting
Speaker 1: that and sort of working against the show's construction, right.
Speaker 1: And then there have been sometimes where you just have
Speaker 1: a tribe of like kind of nasty people, like you know,
Speaker 1: like they come together randomly and you're just like, ah,
Speaker 1: they're just they're gossipy or they're lazy or whatever. And
Speaker 1: so you see these different dynamics. This season seems really
Speaker 1: positive to me, Like I kind of like everybody and
Speaker 1: I guess because they all come in with experience, they
Speaker 1: all know that they can't get away with like not
Speaker 1: working hard or not helping out, you know, Like the
Speaker 1: one person is Rizzo. He's the twenty five year old,
Speaker 1: right and Colby, you know, is like that kid's But
Speaker 1: by the end they have like a connection because I
Speaker 1: think he sees the value of like, yeah, he's just
Speaker 1: twenty five. He just doesn't know anything.
Speaker 3: He's also keeping arm morale up and hey, let's do
Speaker 3: a fashion show and it's like, okay, you need that too,
Speaker 3: like which made me.
Speaker 1: Love Colby like that he was really just like one
Speaker 1: thing and then be like you know what, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're all it's it's a good season, man, it's a really.
Speaker 2: Good Okay, all right, good, Well, I'm glad I'm coming
Speaker 2: back on it one.
Speaker 1: It's positive. It's definitely feeling positive. But yeah, it is
Speaker 1: interesting to have this like this. We're not discovering their
Speaker 1: personalities the way you normally are, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like normally a game of survivor. This entire
Speaker 1: first episode is just like who are these people? And
Speaker 1: like what jobs do they have back home? Why did
Speaker 1: they do this show? This one is like, well we
Speaker 1: all know this band of you know, characters, and it's
Speaker 1: so now we're kind of rooting for known personalities, which
Speaker 1: is it's gonna be a different it's a different vibe.
Speaker 3: Has there ever been a season so I was curious
Speaker 3: about this, ever been a season where you either get
Speaker 3: to pick your own tribes or you do something to
Speaker 3: pick a tribe as opposed to like, we've already picked
Speaker 3: when you get in.
Speaker 1: They've done them random, they've done them random seasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's been random, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: it's it's not usually I'm taking you like school yard pick.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've ever done that, but maybe they have.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. They tend to keep the show evolving, sure,
Speaker 1: which is smart. You know, it makes for good TV
Speaker 1: because you always yeah. And then you know, as opposed
Speaker 1: to traders, it's ay, they've seen, they've learned a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, they've had twenty five years to taste to
Speaker 1: figure out what works and doesn't, and so they're usually
Speaker 1: pretty spot on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So this season they're leaving it up to the
Speaker 1: fans to decide, which means the fans have voted on
Speaker 1: some of the rule dynamics that have changed throughout the years.
Speaker 1: So did you notice did you vote no? I wish
Speaker 1: I had. I would have done it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you have voted the way that it seems
Speaker 3: like the fans voted No.
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're making a murder for them. I
Speaker 1: can't know, because that's if the first vote is whether
Speaker 1: they get rice and supply. They have to earn it.
Speaker 1: They have to earn it, and they made them earn it.
Speaker 1: I absolutely, I think it's a struggle, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I think it's such a struggle. It's enough of a
Speaker 1: struggle that like, because you know, here's my problem. What
Speaker 1: happens when you have to earn it is that often
Speaker 1: because if you lose an immunity challenge, right, and that
Speaker 1: means you're going to lose one of your members, you
Speaker 1: have to vote somebody, You have to vote somebody out
Speaker 1: that night. If that also means you don't get supplies,
Speaker 1: your tribe is gets just getting weaker and weaker. So
Speaker 1: to me, it has a snowball effect. So like if
Speaker 1: you're a winning tribe, you just keep winning. So what
Speaker 1: happens with these situations is there's often and this has
Speaker 1: happened like a lot of years, there's just one tribe
Speaker 1: that just keeps losing for the whole first like six episodes,
Speaker 1: So you're just watching these people get sadder, weaker because
Speaker 1: they don't have fire, they're not getting food, they're not
Speaker 1: getting rice, they're not getting their supplies, they're not getting fishing,
Speaker 1: so they're just so it it ends up being like
Speaker 1: the winners keep winning and the losers keep losing vibe.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm like, I like the idea of like, no,
Speaker 1: give them equal across the board to start, and then
Speaker 1: you know, have it balance out based on who wins
Speaker 1: the immunity challenges who doesn't, as opposed to like this
Speaker 1: person won the first one and they're just going to
Speaker 1: keep winning, which is already kind of feels like it's
Speaker 1: going to happen that way. I don't know, all right, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: the fans have decided to not give them rice or
Speaker 1: supplies and unless they do this first challenge, and you
Speaker 1: see that the challenges are usually pretty balanced as far
Speaker 1: as there's like a physical component there. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: puzzle element. Usually there's swimming, so it's this game is
Speaker 1: really well designed as far as the challenges go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough though, because there's some designed or they
Speaker 3: can target one person in the group to show how
Speaker 3: weak they can be, which we saw in this episode
Speaker 3: where it's like, uh yeah, it just makes that one
Speaker 3: person look real bad.
Speaker 1: Well I forget who said it, but they were like,
Speaker 1: we bottlenecked on that one. Yeah, and it's true, like
Speaker 1: that was the guy with the that was Beaty.
Speaker 3: That's what I call him, the guy from uh Beat's
Speaker 3: also from Hunger Games. It's one of the guys who
Speaker 3: won the Hunger Games. But he's like a he's a
Speaker 3: nerds Christian. Yeah, who's a total nerd and and you
Speaker 3: know those are my people and the idea that nobody
Speaker 3: else everyone's like, you can make fire with glasses, Like really,
Speaker 3: you never burned ants as a kid with a magnifying glass,
Speaker 3: Like you've never heard of this.
Speaker 1: It's so cool though, I know. That made me so
Speaker 1: happy that they figured out.
Speaker 3: Science and you start doing that in the first grade,
Speaker 3: I know, but it was nobody figured that out. Come on.
Speaker 1: It was really cool though. All Right, So the first
Speaker 1: challenge is usually involve like mud and paint, and that's
Speaker 1: because they want to have great opening credit sequences. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you always owed the opening credits were usually they
Speaker 1: list all the people you know, all the survivors, and
Speaker 1: you get them in shots with their names. So just
Speaker 1: remind you of how that's how every episode starts, and
Speaker 1: they always take all the footage of that from the
Speaker 1: first challenge they're covered in mud or jumping out of
Speaker 1: water or whatever. So this one they got to dig
Speaker 1: under a log, right, and then grab a paddle through
Speaker 1: a puzzle situation with like a metallic thing, then another right,
Speaker 1: So you see there's all these different roles. So it's
Speaker 1: more about teamwork, right, It's it's more about figuring out
Speaker 1: who on your team has what strength and like and
Speaker 1: and you know, going selecting for them.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a brain, a brain and brawn as opposed
Speaker 3: to brain versus you need to use everything.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's really about the stuff that we
Speaker 1: don't get to see often, which is how they strategize
Speaker 1: for the challenge because they have, like I don't know
Speaker 1: how long before they actually run the race or whatever,
Speaker 1: to sit there and go, you're going to do this,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. And some of the most
Speaker 1: interesting parts of Survivor are when you get to see
Speaker 1: those conversations. They often edit them out mostly just they've
Speaker 1: just edit around them. I would love to see them
Speaker 1: because there have been times when somebody's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the one to do this, and then
Speaker 1: they screw it up so bad that the rest of
Speaker 1: the team is like, we knew you shouldn't have done that,
Speaker 1: and you know, it becomes part of the social dynamic
Speaker 1: to whether you volunteer for certain things or if you're
Speaker 1: the person who just never pulls your weight, Like at
Speaker 1: a certain point, they're gonna be like, dude, we're losing
Speaker 1: challenges or we're not doing as well as we could
Speaker 1: because you're not doing anything, you know, and then then
Speaker 1: you'll get voted out. So yeah, it's it's yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: So Va Tu Sila and Calo yep so Va two.
Speaker 1: Stephanie gets under the log and gives that a huge
Speaker 1: lead fast, I know, and this just sort of sets
Speaker 1: them to win. I mean they just never no one
Speaker 1: can ever make up after that.
Speaker 2: She was flying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, you can see how certain people are
Speaker 1: just going to be amazing to challenges, right, like Coach
Speaker 1: out of the Gate, Auzzie just unbelievable as always, like
Speaker 1: you can just see, like and then there's that.
Speaker 3: Giant, giant gant Jonathan where it's Mike. Mike White is
Speaker 3: literally like, are you a giant? And he's just going
Speaker 3: fee five.
Speaker 2: That's correact.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And those those people you need, you know, like
Speaker 1: to gu their challenges.
Speaker 3: Unabashedly will tell you that I spent forty five minutes
Speaker 3: last night googling and deep diving where to get Jonathan's
Speaker 3: patchwork pants?
Speaker 1: Wait? Where are his patchwork?
Speaker 3: He's wearing these awesome like patch together pants, and I
Speaker 3: spent forty five minutes trying.
Speaker 1: That's trying to find this pair of pants to buy.
Speaker 1: Are they like basically apparay board pants?
Speaker 3: No, that they just look like comfy, awesome hippie like
Speaker 3: you were a pirate. And you know, I'm still trying
Speaker 3: found versions of them, but not those actual ones. But
Speaker 3: god they were good. So if anybody knows where I
Speaker 3: can get them.
Speaker 2: Please let me know where I can get those pants.
Speaker 1: Survivors. So it's so funny because they always you know,
Speaker 1: this one not so much because they're a lot of
Speaker 1: times they come in like out fits that represent their
Speaker 1: their like life back home, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like if they're a lawyer, they come in a suit.
Speaker 1: Time and it's like by episode two, they're just bathing
Speaker 1: suits and buffs. You just watch them like stripped down
Speaker 1: or turtle.
Speaker 2: Neck sweaters and long trench coats exactly.
Speaker 1: But stuff gets frayed over time. By like the third episode,
Speaker 1: they're all just dirty and miserable, you know. Love it's
Speaker 1: that Yeah, and you'll see they lose weight quickly. This
Speaker 1: is the best anybody is going to look. As one
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 3: Reasons I want to go on this show, I just
Speaker 3: want to want to drop a few.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's shocking when they show flat like
Speaker 1: when you get to the end of the season and
Speaker 1: then they show flashbacks to like, you know, the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season, which was only like twenty days earlier,
Speaker 1: but they look like different human beings. It's really intense.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I wonder how, like do they have mirrors
Speaker 1: for them to look at before they go on.
Speaker 2: I doubt it, you know, I you know, I'm guessing
Speaker 2: they don't.
Speaker 3: Is because several a what would drive me nuts is
Speaker 3: that you're covered in sand and itchy probably all day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they had there's a couple people that had like
Speaker 3: sand right at the edge of their noses and stuff.
Speaker 3: Like that where you know, if they had a mirror,
Speaker 3: they would have been knocking stuff. So yeah, they just
Speaker 3: it's probably like, hey, you're on the island now, don't
Speaker 3: worry about how you look.
Speaker 2: Just go win the game.
Speaker 1: God, it's so it's so uncomfortable. I hate the beach
Speaker 1: so much, right, So, like I would much rather do
Speaker 1: alone where I don't want to be alone, but I
Speaker 1: would much rather it be in a cold, windy environment
Speaker 1: with like, you know, trees around me than like this
Speaker 1: kind of exposure on the beach, Like.
Speaker 3: No, no, you're this is this is you know again,
Speaker 3: when I at first when they were exiled, which will
Speaker 3: get there, I was like, Oh that's not gonna be
Speaker 3: that big a deal.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh that's gotta suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, So Vatu wins this first challenge,
Speaker 1: so the other teams just never made up that lead
Speaker 1: that Stephanie got from coming out into the wall hugely incredible.
Speaker 1: And then we have this single players sent for supply
Speaker 1: challenge and that ends up being Coach Azzy and.
Speaker 3: Q and Coach and Ozzy apparently have a history.
Speaker 1: They go back, they were rivals, and I thought this
Speaker 1: was super interesting because you know, they kind of shook
Speaker 1: hands and apologize both of them to you know, put
Speaker 1: it behind them. But didn't seem to last long, did it? No?
Speaker 3: And you wonder again, knowing nothing of their history, I
Speaker 3: didn't know where I kind of thought Coach was in
Speaker 3: the right until later, and then I was.
Speaker 1: Like, maybe he's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude's so yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Coach is. You know, he's just he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys who likes to be called coach, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, which is weird enough. He likes to
Speaker 1: lead yoga on the beach and like he says, like
Speaker 1: a lot of like fortune cookie kind of you.
Speaker 2: Know, give us, give us a coaches before we start.
Speaker 1: He wants to be like the like benevolent, wise, uh
Speaker 1: new age leader. But then he's kind of just the
Speaker 1: guy who does whatever it takes to win. And that's
Speaker 1: that contradiction is sleazy to me, Like I just I
Speaker 1: get that. Yeah, but you know, he's got his supporters
Speaker 1: out there, and it is a game like you gotta
Speaker 1: win by by being manipulative at some point, so.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So these are all three very physical guys that
Speaker 1: they send on the supply Challenge, which turns out to
Speaker 1: be smart because it is a physical challenge, although it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, you see, like Ozzie out of the gate,
Speaker 1: is just insane, like he's already way ahead of the
Speaker 1: other two even though they're all pretty fit.
Speaker 2: I didn't know how good this guy was.
Speaker 1: Is that good? But then it turns out that doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter much because this stick challenge is just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They have to tie these sticks together go through a
Speaker 1: fence to get a key that it just clearly cannot reach.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and there's this little tense moment where Ozzie
Speaker 1: says like, hey, you know if I'm not if you
Speaker 1: knock it off, I'll let you have it. Or what
Speaker 1: does he say?
Speaker 3: He says to Q like no, I think maybe in
Speaker 3: a que that says like, hey, man, if you knock
Speaker 3: it off, I'm not going to steal it.
Speaker 1: From you, right, I'm not going to steal it from here.
Speaker 2: And then the coach was like, I made no such promise.
Speaker 1: Yep, And that's exactly what happened, and that just a
Speaker 1: scramble for yeah, right, and you know, to be fair,
Speaker 1: and Ozzie's not like super pissed. I mean he's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of standard, coach, but I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, it seems like it's pay He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's part for of the course. The guy ten minutes
Speaker 3: ago or whatever, now an hour and a half ago
Speaker 3: told me I'm so sorry. We're good, and now it's
Speaker 3: like business as usual.
Speaker 2: It's like okay.
Speaker 1: But so it's interesting with these kinds of solo missions
Speaker 1: that you get sent on. You see it later in
Speaker 1: this episode too, they can really backfire on you because
Speaker 1: people don't trust you when you come back because there's
Speaker 1: often secret advantages given. So, like my rule of thumb is,
Speaker 1: never go on a solo adventure. You never volunteer to
Speaker 1: do this because it rarely works. I find it's like
Speaker 1: you find yourself in a sticky situation where you're like
Speaker 1: given the choice to steal a vote or lose a vote,
Speaker 1: which is kind of what happens here. You know, like
Speaker 1: Q gets kind of screwed right like her, he sold
Speaker 1: his vote to get the supplies and Ozzy to his credit, Ozzie,
Speaker 1: this is what he's learned from past seasons, which is
Speaker 1: that he provided for everybody by catching fish and it
Speaker 1: never helped, like he still got screwed. Ironically, he still
Speaker 1: ends up doing that at the end of this episode.
Speaker 1: He's still providing and being a sucker, but at this
Speaker 1: point he takes a stand for himself and says, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take the machete in the supplies.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give up my vote for that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take it, you know, which is
Speaker 1: super interesting. He's like, I'd rather just go home empty handed,
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of an evolution for him
Speaker 1: and a smart move, just like I think him partnering
Speaker 1: with Syria is a really really smart move. So he's
Speaker 1: my guy. Man, I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting interesting team Colby at this point because he's
Speaker 3: the only one I kind of know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. He's the only dude I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's see Vatu coming back. After a
Speaker 1: commercial break, this is where we have Angelina, Stephanie Colby.
Speaker 1: Stephanie and Colby are immediately working hard and strategizing. The
Speaker 1: key starts naming names, singles out Rizzo for being you know,
Speaker 1: talking too much and working too little, and I mean
Speaker 1: my immediate sense was like, oh, this season is like
Speaker 1: people know how to play because what usually happens on
Speaker 1: this first day is you get to the camp and
Speaker 1: people are just like, oh, we got to build a shelter,
Speaker 1: and they either just focus on building a shelter and
Speaker 1: they don't talk any strategy and that can really screw you.
Speaker 1: Or people get to the beach and they just decide
Speaker 1: to like socialize and get to know one another and
Speaker 1: they don't take the time to build a shelter, and
Speaker 1: they get screwed and they have like a miserable night.
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting to see the people who have
Speaker 1: played before they know to strike that balance immediately, like
Speaker 1: you need to all be working as hard as you
Speaker 1: can but also find time to assess each other's character.
Speaker 1: And Colby's a pro dude. He's immediately doing that. You
Speaker 1: can see he's working so hard, but you know, building
Speaker 1: a shelter, but then automatically turning to and like assessing
Speaker 1: everybody around him, being like, we need to do this.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Super super smart player, and they all
Speaker 1: are pretty smart players.
Speaker 3: He reminds me of Rob c from Traders, if he
Speaker 3: wasn't bad totally, meaning like everyone's gonna like him. He's
Speaker 3: a man's man. He's gonna pull his weight and challenges.
Speaker 3: He's going to be friendly, he's but he's still going
Speaker 3: to play the game.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So he's got that kind of vibe to him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which you're just I mean even the other all the
Speaker 2: other players are like, dude, Colby, like, I'm so sepy
Speaker 2: And this.
Speaker 1: Is what's probab. The problem is when you're that dominant
Speaker 1: physically and like, once you get into an individual game,
Speaker 1: you're the first one out because because everybody want to
Speaker 1: keep you to win against other teams. But then when
Speaker 1: it's against each other and you're you're the biggest threat. Like,
Speaker 1: so that's why the big challenge people like Ozzy and
Speaker 1: Coach like they are, they are kings up until the
Speaker 1: individual game. That's it. Then then the individual game flips
Speaker 1: the entire thing.
Speaker 3: And then but the individual game isn't all isn't also
Speaker 3: stuff that you strengthen speed, but it's.
Speaker 1: All your own against yourself. And also you also, if
Speaker 1: you have a good social game and you're friends with everybody,
Speaker 1: even if you don't win an individual immunity, then you're
Speaker 1: not going to get voted out. Do you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're going to vote out so there are
Speaker 1: sometimes when it's like you have these physical you have
Speaker 1: these games. I'm forgetting the one guy's name. He had
Speaker 1: to just keep winning physical challenges because everybody was like,
Speaker 1: we're voting you out, we're voting you out. And he
Speaker 1: won like five in a row because it was his
Speaker 1: only option, do you know what I mean? And then
Speaker 1: at a certain point people are like, well, he's just
Speaker 1: going to keep winning individual immunity, so we have to
Speaker 1: make an alliance with him. But it's so interesting the game,
Speaker 1: the way the game changes from.
Speaker 2: Group and right, does that spen it normally?
Speaker 1: When it gets down to like ten ish people, I
Speaker 1: think eight, eight or ten people?
Speaker 3: Well, see the question how many how many episodes of
Speaker 3: Survivor are this is a full season or their twenty
Speaker 3: something episodes?
Speaker 2: Or is just like ten or twelve episod?
Speaker 1: No I believe there's like twenty two. Yeah it's a
Speaker 1: full season. Okay, all right, all right. So then over
Speaker 1: at Collo, you've got d who I remember and love.
Speaker 1: She's a great player. Charlie is an incredible social player.
Speaker 1: He's like he's the younger guy, kind of skinny guy.
Speaker 1: He's like a huge Taylor Swift fan. He was from
Speaker 1: like a couple of seasons ago, and he had a
Speaker 1: really smart game where he he did this thing if
Speaker 1: I remember, and it's him that like he studied all
Speaker 1: the individual immunity challenges and noticed that there's a preponderance
Speaker 1: of challenges that require like this muscle like on your
Speaker 1: arm or your your fore arms or you're like the
Speaker 1: back of your he because they'll be like you have
Speaker 1: to sit on a ledge or hold this thing up right.
Speaker 1: So he spent months working just those muscles and it
Speaker 1: totally worked. It was amazing. So he's like a real
Speaker 1: survivor strategist. He also do this really smart thing where
Speaker 1: like in the last season he picked like two older
Speaker 1: women and was like I'm going with you all the
Speaker 1: way because he knew that like those are going to
Speaker 1: be the social players that could like help him out
Speaker 1: the most. And he's just a he's a good guy
Speaker 1: and a good player. I don't think he won, if
Speaker 1: I'm remembering correctly. He didn't win, but he ended up
Speaker 1: in the final.
Speaker 2: This is Charlie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Charlie, great guy. And then Giant a Giant and
Speaker 1: then the same team you got Mike White showing off
Speaker 1: his abs, which is hysterical because he is like, you know,
Speaker 1: his first couple of seasons, he's like the pasty, nerdy guy.
Speaker 1: You're like, this guy does not belong on the beach,
Speaker 1: and now he looks like.
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, he's got six packs.
Speaker 1: And this is where he starts crying about, you know,
Speaker 1: almost crying, talking about how survivor experience has helped him
Speaker 1: get through his tough challenges on White Lotus and that's
Speaker 1: why he came back, which I think is so cool.
Speaker 2: Super likable this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of them are likable, man, yes,
Speaker 1: really yeah, yeah, it's not like old there have been
Speaker 1: seasons past. We're just like, I hate these people.
Speaker 3: There's only one to me this entire first episode that
Speaker 3: I didn't find amazingly likable, and that was Jenna, right, yep, yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's the one that went away.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I mean. It's a good season. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a positive this season, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's so far.
Speaker 2: See the second she came in, she came in guns
Speaker 2: blaze and.
Speaker 1: Not play that hard man pay. The same thing happened
Speaker 1: on Traders. You cannot come in like too hot. It
Speaker 1: really like, I don't understand, Like, dude, you have to
Speaker 1: just play the long game. No, that's what Mike White
Speaker 1: is a genius at. He's always like, let other people
Speaker 1: make the decisions, make let them be aggressively forming alliances
Speaker 1: and making enemies, because you can inevitably make enemies. So
Speaker 1: just let them do it and you can fly under
Speaker 1: the radar. I mean, it's it's a genius strategy.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it was so funny because she's the
Speaker 3: only one. I was like, ooh, I don't I don't
Speaker 3: like her.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 2: That's what happened.
Speaker 1: There you go. So that's on Sila and we go
Speaker 1: to that tribe. Next, you got Joe the Firefighter. He's
Speaker 1: another great guy. He's like a super big dude, big
Speaker 1: beefy challenge guy who's also pretty great, Like he's a
Speaker 1: good dude, and then.
Speaker 2: He saves people's lives for living what do you expect exactly?
Speaker 1: And then Sarria is just sort of like the everyman player,
Speaker 1: right she is that she's always been a fan favorite
Speaker 1: because she's the audience, oh, the audio, the biggest audiencer.
Speaker 1: Everyone just loves her. And then you got Jenna in
Speaker 1: this team, who, yeah, you know, I like, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's funny because I wonder you know, I'm actually not
Speaker 1: she she hasn't played since season one, has she?
Speaker 2: No, she hasn't yet.
Speaker 3: That she that you know, they're on the beach for
Speaker 3: it seems like four minutes unless they edited it weirdly,
Speaker 3: and she's like here here, so we're going to vote Soria.
Speaker 2: Who's who's voting?
Speaker 1: Set?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, you're kind by
Speaker 3: the way, my name is Dave, Like I'm on your team.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't even know she's she's I think
Speaker 1: she's been watching for the last forty eight and nine
Speaker 1: seasons and been strategizing and she did it too hard,
Speaker 1: like she's just like and she she is right that
Speaker 1: Siri is a huge threat because surely everybody loves her,
Speaker 1: not only the audience, but like in the tribes, people
Speaker 1: like her.
Speaker 3: Do that. No, man, but you slow burn it, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, that was that was even I
Speaker 3: knew that was terrible strat And.
Speaker 1: Then we've got Savannah, who apparently just won season forty nine,
Speaker 1: which I didn't get to see because my son and
Speaker 1: my wife watched it with out me, So I have
Speaker 1: no knowledge that you're still right, because Ruezo is also
Speaker 1: from season forty nine, so I have no but she
Speaker 1: seems great and she admits to them that she won
Speaker 1: season forty nine. Yeah, which means she had two weeks off.
Speaker 1: She says, Oh, that I think is given going to
Speaker 1: give her a huge advantage if she's fine, you know,
Speaker 1: like she like if she and I guess, is she
Speaker 1: the one that like starved herself before coming on and
Speaker 1: one maybe I think it's yeah, when she's playing well,
Speaker 1: and that's that's going to help her because she's she's
Speaker 1: you know, she's also a younger.
Speaker 3: I would imagine everybody, if you're running, it's a lot
Speaker 3: easier to run a marathon. If you don't run thirteen
Speaker 3: miles one day, stop, take a good night's sleep, get
Speaker 3: a rest, and try to run thirteen miles. It's easier
Speaker 3: to just run the whole damn thing at one time.
Speaker 3: So she's just made marathon right now, exactly. Let's just
Speaker 3: keep going crazy, all right.
Speaker 1: So we actually already covered what happens next, which is
Speaker 1: a supply solo run with Coach and Aussie and Q,
Speaker 1: and the way that that ends is with Coach returning
Speaker 1: to Carlo. He gives his toe ring to.
Speaker 3: Charlie, which you've been wearing since nineteen eighty two?
Speaker 1: Did he say full of toe? Jim? You just know
Speaker 1: that's so gross, But Charlie's kind of a good sport
Speaker 1: about it. I guess Chrissy and Coach have this moment
Speaker 1: in the water. Chrissy's already targeting D because she won
Speaker 1: before over.
Speaker 3: I was amazed, frankly because just not being not knowing
Speaker 3: the show, was amazed how fast the kind of quote
Speaker 3: ute scheming starts.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I know it has to because that's the thing. That's
Speaker 1: what always used to happen, is that people would just
Speaker 1: be like, we got to just survive, and they wouldn't
Speaker 1: focus on the gameplay and they would just get screwed.
Speaker 1: So these people they know that the earlier you form
Speaker 1: alliances and don't deviate from them, the better off you are.
Speaker 1: Like if if you can actually find your ride or
Speaker 1: die and you have the numbers, you know, like you
Speaker 1: got to stick together because otherwise you have to figure
Speaker 1: out who you can trust and never turn your back
Speaker 1: on them, because well, you're right.
Speaker 3: It seems like they've done They've all done this so
Speaker 3: many times, Like we all notice skip the four play.
Speaker 3: Let's just get right to the business. Exactly what seems
Speaker 3: to be happening.
Speaker 1: Right over on Cela. You have Rick Devans, the like
Speaker 1: idol hound guy, and Christian and him this whole Kirk
Speaker 1: and Spock relationship.
Speaker 2: I love these guys.
Speaker 1: These guys too. I love how much they love each other.
Speaker 1: Isn't it the best when they're like I was hoping
Speaker 1: it would be you and they're like, I could kiss you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love these guys. And then against.
Speaker 1: Emily on board, Emily is a great player. It's interesting
Speaker 1: because Emily was a huge underdog her season, and she
Speaker 1: even talks about it right here, and it seems to
Speaker 1: be in the underdog because she was completely underestimated her
Speaker 1: season because she wasn't like physically like in it, and
Speaker 1: she even socially just sort of didn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of friends immediately. But now she's in a situation where
Speaker 1: people know her and like somebody like Rick is aligning
Speaker 1: with her right away. So she's finding herself in a
Speaker 1: new position where she's like actually being by people because she's,
Speaker 1: you know, used, she's not used to that.
Speaker 3: It's she said that she's like, I'm this is so
Speaker 3: strange like people want to date.
Speaker 1: Which is it's good. It's like because she is, she's
Speaker 1: a really good player. She's yeah, she's actually very strong. Surprisingly,
Speaker 1: over at VATU, you've got Colby and Kyle forming their thing.
Speaker 2: Kyle, okay, Kyle Frasier right.
Speaker 1: And Kyle and he's the one who hurts himself at
Speaker 1: the end of this episode, which is such a bummer.
Speaker 2: It sucks. I will get well because he's a.
Speaker 1: Really good, good dude and would look, you know, I
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing him play. They lock in Stephanie.
Speaker 3: By the way, just since we just talked about him,
Speaker 3: and we will get into the surgery. But he did
Speaker 3: release a statement he it was torn and he needed
Speaker 3: surgery that way.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude. You could see when they squeeze his
Speaker 1: leg and it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Close, and you could see when they did, there's a
Speaker 3: big He's like, you want to look for dark spots.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you mean like that right there? Dude. Oh
Speaker 1: poor guy sucks. So then Kyle and Genevieve lock in.
Speaker 1: So you've got a pretty good alliance. But then what
Speaker 1: sucks about this alliance is they lose Kyle by the
Speaker 1: end of this episode, and Q comes back with a vote.
Speaker 1: So they're yeah, they're not in a great decision.
Speaker 2: It was a tough it was a tough run for them.
Speaker 1: So then Aubrey is one of those She's a again
Speaker 1: like a sort of underdog of her season who really
Speaker 1: did well because she was underestimated. And it was really
Speaker 1: interesting the scene between her and Genevieve on the beach
Speaker 1: where they're like kind of not trusting one another because
Speaker 1: I sort of see each other's game. It was a
Speaker 1: weird tension.
Speaker 2: It was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's good. We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1: So Ozzie and Q are stuck on Exile Island. You
Speaker 1: can see how miserable that mis Ozzie spent an entire
Speaker 1: season almost on Exile Island.
Speaker 2: Oh but this is the guy whoever you said every time,
Speaker 2: then I have a fish.
Speaker 1: Dinner for you. He would We wait, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: he would because then what they would have to do
Speaker 1: that season. They had this whole system where if you
Speaker 1: got exile or if you got kicked out of your tribe,
Speaker 1: you went to Exile Island, and then you had a
Speaker 1: contest with whoever was over on Exile Island, and then
Speaker 1: if you if you lost to them, you'd get kicked off.
Speaker 1: So Ozzy stayed on Exile Island for like five rounds
Speaker 1: and people just kept coming through and then he would
Speaker 1: kick their ass and a challenge and then he was fine.
Speaker 1: Like it was. It was super interesting, but oh geez.
Speaker 1: So for all of the people to be stuck on
Speaker 1: an exi island, Ozzie was easy the best one, okay,
Speaker 1: but just looks miserable. Dude. They're talking about all the
Speaker 1: bugs all over them.
Speaker 3: And it looks like it's cold and the wind and
Speaker 3: you're not going to sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks awful.
Speaker 1: So then they have this this agreement where you know,
Speaker 1: Ozzie says he's not going to take the supplies and
Speaker 1: go back, and Q is going to return with the
Speaker 1: supplies but not.
Speaker 2: Have not his vote.
Speaker 3: What would you have done, as somebody who watches the show,
Speaker 3: which one's more important the supplies are the vote?
Speaker 1: It depends on how how good you're feeling. The problem
Speaker 1: is right now, these guys have no reason to believe
Speaker 1: they have anybody rooting for them. Is it just this week?
Speaker 2: Did he lose the vote for just this week or
Speaker 2: the next time he goes to tribal council.
Speaker 1: No, it's just next time he goes to tribal council.
Speaker 3: Okay, so if the team doesn't go to tribal council
Speaker 3: for five weeks, yes, but then he gets to try counsel.
Speaker 2: He's lost this vote the next time they go.
Speaker 1: But the real problem is, like I would say, take
Speaker 1: the supplies and give up the vote. If you you're
Speaker 1: you're you're confident that you're you're protected back home. Right,
Speaker 1: these guys have missed the entire first night, so they
Speaker 1: didn't get to strategize that there is no confidence in
Speaker 1: like their team, and that's why Ozzie is like, I'm
Speaker 1: not giving He's like, I'll be fine because I'm a survivalist.
Speaker 1: I don't need the supplies because you know, really, what
Speaker 1: I think is Q should have gone back and said
Speaker 1: I lost my vote guys for you to give you
Speaker 1: a supplies, so please don't vote for me because I
Speaker 1: did the right thing for us to have a machete
Speaker 1: and for us to have a pot. Like the fact
Speaker 1: that he comes back and lies is I think kind
Speaker 1: of a bad call because I think you, like I would,
Speaker 1: if you take the thing, say you did it, and
Speaker 1: that will earn you social capital. That, you know, to
Speaker 1: make up for the fact that you missed everything. That's
Speaker 1: what I would have done, and that's you know, Ozzie.
Speaker 1: Ozzie is fine because he'll he'll provide in other ways
Speaker 1: and he's like, screw it. But yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: super interesting that that that Q comes back in lies.
Speaker 1: I this is the part about going on a solo
Speaker 1: journey that I never want to do. So often they
Speaker 1: come back with an advantage or a disadvantage. But you
Speaker 1: have to make up a lie. Man. You just say, oh,
Speaker 1: I never found anything, or in this case, he makes
Speaker 1: up some like coconut chow.
Speaker 2: We had to run fifty yards with coconuts with something.
Speaker 1: Were thanks, keep simple lie with thanks, all right. So
Speaker 1: then we have Christian with a lens starting to fire,
Speaker 1: which I thought was so cool, and Aussie helps him
Speaker 1: get that. People like it was shocking what you do what?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever happened on Survivor. But I
Speaker 1: would totally learn. I would like, yeah, I would be
Speaker 1: reading everything about local court flora and fauna and know everything.
Speaker 2: How to make the bow and the spindle and do
Speaker 2: everything and.
Speaker 1: How you get the why not? Why not? What else
Speaker 1: are you doing besides like talking to people.
Speaker 2: If Tom Hanks can do it on an island, we can.
Speaker 1: So uh Suri and Rick Devn's meet up and he
Speaker 1: tells her that Jenna's throwing her name around already, which
Speaker 1: is why you don't play that hard that fact which
Speaker 1: she was Seren and Ozzy lock in, which I think
Speaker 1: is super smart for him and her because she, you know,
Speaker 1: she's not a big challenge person. So and then he
Speaker 1: tells her that he has this extra vote and this
Speaker 1: is you know, this is where the backstory that you
Speaker 1: don't know is that he always gets screwed like he
Speaker 1: always he always has an idol, he's always winning challenges,
Speaker 1: and people just backs down him because he's too much
Speaker 1: of a threat and he's so likable that they know
Speaker 1: that if it goes to a jury, he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: win the million dollars, you know, because that's at the end.
Speaker 1: You have to bring two sometimes three people with you
Speaker 1: to the end, and then it's the people that you've
Speaker 1: kicked out during the individual who vote which one of
Speaker 1: you gets the million dollars. So you want to you
Speaker 1: want to like basically you want to get up there
Speaker 1: and kick people out, like vote against people, but let
Speaker 1: them know that you're hat yes, because if you are
Speaker 1: just like two manipulated, two mean to people, they won't
Speaker 1: ever give you the million dollars. They'll hold that grudge.
Speaker 1: But then there's this other thing where sometimes they just
Speaker 1: turn around, they're like, you know what, you screwed me over,
Speaker 1: but well played. You know, like, if you're upfront about it,
Speaker 1: we pinky swore. See. This is the aspect of traders
Speaker 1: I think was missing, which is the jury factor. Like you,
Speaker 1: because the traders, you could just be the biggest scumbag
Speaker 1: ever because you're rewarding for it. There's no incentive to
Speaker 1: be somewhat nice to people. Yeah, that's what I like
Speaker 1: about survivor is like you can't just lie cheap steal.
Speaker 1: You have to like actually be kind of.
Speaker 2: Because you have the people, yeah, exactesting.
Speaker 1: So you have to strategize enough or be friendly enough
Speaker 1: so that you're not just yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: That's an important aspect. That's an importantsage, dude, It's huge
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Over at they're having this fashion show which is hysterical
Speaker 1: and gets Kolby to come around on Rizzo, and Rizzo
Speaker 1: cries calls him like a father figure, really sweet moment.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 3: It was a sweet moment until he looked at him
Speaker 3: and said, my dad's forty seven, and I wanted to
Speaker 3: throw my remote through the TV, Like are you kids
Speaker 3: younger than me?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: God, crazy crazy.
Speaker 1: Over at Colo, you got Jonathan and Mike doing yoga
Speaker 1: on the beach. Jonathan and uh coach uh form an alliance. Uh,
Speaker 1: We've got there's so many people talking to so many
Speaker 1: other people.
Speaker 2: That don't so many things I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Eventually, we don't need to cover all of this because
Speaker 1: it will become So let's just get right to the challenge.
Speaker 1: This is basically this is the centerpiece of every episode
Speaker 1: is you have this challenge, and this is where you
Speaker 1: get to see you know, the rubber meet the road
Speaker 1: of their actual abilities and his teamwork super fun and
Speaker 1: this is where they can win fishing gear. So they
Speaker 1: got to jump over a ramp, go through the mud man.
Speaker 1: Kyle has this leg moment which you could see him
Speaker 1: push himself so hard. I mean they are beasts. Those
Speaker 1: guys like throwing themselves up the ramp.
Speaker 3: Slams on that ramp too, I mean like slams on
Speaker 3: al and I both like us. Yeah, it was one
Speaker 3: of those things where but they're doing it on purpose
Speaker 3: where they're like, the first thing you gotta do is
Speaker 3: go through a ton of mud, so everything else you
Speaker 3: do is slippery. Yeah, and it's like they're doing that
Speaker 3: on purpose obviously, like you we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: Oh but again to get those great opening credit shots
Speaker 1: because now they got them like crawling, Yeah, looking, it's
Speaker 1: going to be amazing.
Speaker 2: I felt that guy.
Speaker 3: Anybody who's done anything to an ankle or to an
Speaker 3: achilles it is.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how he he wasn't showing his pain
Speaker 1: like he was just because he didn't want to let
Speaker 1: it stop him.
Speaker 3: Of course, and they would have kicked and they would
Speaker 3: have kicked him out.
Speaker 1: I know, you think about it. He actually did snap
Speaker 1: his achilles tendon. Yeah, so that had to I mean
Speaker 1: I thought that he twisted his ankle basically till he
Speaker 1: was broken or something mean too, but he I think
Speaker 1: snapping your tendon is way worse, and probably so the
Speaker 1: fact that he plays it off because he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to stop the game, like dude, that guy's champ.
Speaker 3: And those are injuries that end careers in sports, and
Speaker 3: I mean that's they're huge. Yeah, they're huge, and he
Speaker 3: did he had surgery. I guess that same week they
Speaker 3: had to rebuild everything.
Speaker 2: Yikes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a guy I can think it was
Speaker 1: last season bit by a snake and they had to
Speaker 1: pull him because it was a genuinely poisonous snake.
Speaker 2: Oh God, they can't just give him a snake bite
Speaker 2: and let him go now.
Speaker 1: They were like, we it's too much of a risk.
Speaker 1: We've got to pull you from the game because we
Speaker 1: have to monitor you for like twenty four hours. I know.
Speaker 1: It's the worst people get pulled for this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: All right. So this is where Syria was holding up
Speaker 1: her tribe with the monkey fist throwing such a bummer.
Speaker 3: But it's also this is where where certain things like
Speaker 3: these challenges are Again this is the first one I've seen,
Speaker 3: but very clever, because what would appear to be the
Speaker 3: easiest part of the challenge is actually arguably one of
Speaker 3: the most difficult parts of the chest.
Speaker 2: You've got to throw this little thing through this thing.
Speaker 3: Hey, it might not be as physically demanding as the
Speaker 3: other stuff you've got to do, but you got.
Speaker 2: To be real good to do stuff like this, And
Speaker 2: it's all on you.
Speaker 1: Yes, you don't want to volunteer for this position, to
Speaker 1: be honest, unless you like know that your this is
Speaker 1: your skill set, you know. So it's a real problem
Speaker 1: that sere volunteered and that they let her. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that that didn't come up more like in
Speaker 1: tribal like they you know, yeah, yeah they yeah. I
Speaker 1: think people just didn't like Jenna people.
Speaker 3: I don't think so she plays. There was a lot
Speaker 3: of good reason to vote out Sirie right here. It
Speaker 3: was one hundred per hundred percent. But it's also it's
Speaker 3: one of those things everybody, anybody who doesn't know football
Speaker 3: thinks being a kicker on the football teams, like it's
Speaker 3: so easy.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is kick the ball.
Speaker 1: Everything's on you, everything's on you.
Speaker 3: Yeah you got Yeah, you might only have one thing
Speaker 3: to do, but it's an exceptionally difficult thing to do.
Speaker 2: And it's all on you.
Speaker 3: And so it's that moment where it was like, but
Speaker 3: here's the thing. Had Jenna been nicer about it, she
Speaker 3: wasn't wrong, No with It's like, hey.
Speaker 1: Sarri, I honestly thought once after this challenge, I thought
Speaker 1: Syria was gone.
Speaker 2: Me too, and maybe should have been.
Speaker 1: Maybe I could not, But I think I think Jennais
Speaker 1: was too much of.
Speaker 2: A agreed She's unlikable.
Speaker 3: She she came on way too strong, and they were like,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I want this personality around us, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's that moment when Emily throws out Ozzy,
Speaker 1: which was like, I thought, oh my god, but that
Speaker 1: would be playing too hard too early, because then you
Speaker 1: lose the benefit of your tribe in challenges because Ozzie
Speaker 1: is such an acid. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 1: it already shows that Ozzy is going to have the
Speaker 1: biggest target on his back once again for this entire
Speaker 1: He needs every advantage he can get because he he's
Speaker 1: just too much. He's too good at this game. He's
Speaker 1: it's like he was made for Survivor in a lab.
Speaker 1: You know. I think he grew up in Mexico at
Speaker 1: like on the beach, you know, like I think he
Speaker 1: grew up in a situation where he was swimming and
Speaker 1: fishing every day as a kid, and so that this
Speaker 1: just feels like home for him. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: After the challenge, Christian gives this little pep talk, his
Speaker 1: little football like speech, and then that just becomes this
Speaker 1: is the they know they have to go to tribal,
Speaker 1: so this is what happens. Then it's just a scramble.
Speaker 1: And this is why you have to have already hopefully
Speaker 1: solidified your life, right because this is where everything changes.
Speaker 1: These hours between finding out you lost the challenge and
Speaker 1: then that night going to tribal, and this is where
Speaker 1: the show gets insane. Like you'll have episodes where this
Speaker 1: will be like forty five minutes of the episode because
Speaker 1: people are like, wait, you said you were going to
Speaker 1: do this, and I said I'm gonna do that, and
Speaker 1: then last minute and then they get to tribal and
Speaker 1: they change at tribal with looks to each other. Dude,
Speaker 1: it's so dramatic because this this These are all good players.
Speaker 1: So you notice when they get to tribal they just
Speaker 1: speak in general aphorisms. Do you notice that they never
Speaker 1: say any So what what amateur players of Survivor do
Speaker 1: is they get to tribal and they say, well, well
Speaker 1: we're going to vote sie and they just say their
Speaker 1: strategy and and then it always backfires, and like so
Speaker 1: you just keep your mouth shut, do not reveal anything.
Speaker 1: And that's what Jeff's job is to try and get
Speaker 1: them to reveal something. It's leading questions of like how
Speaker 1: was your day after that challenge? Weren't you guys thinking serie.
Speaker 2: That you put yourself on the chopping block there.
Speaker 1: So his goal is to try and bring out the
Speaker 1: conflicts and to have them reveal their plans of what
Speaker 1: they're voting for. And really, what you want to do
Speaker 1: is go into trible and not change your mind, right, Like,
Speaker 1: the worst thing that can happen is to be surprised
Speaker 1: at tribal. So you set your plan, you set your alliances,
Speaker 1: you look each other in the eyes, you shake hands,
Speaker 1: spinky square, whatever you need to do, and then you
Speaker 1: get to tribal and you just keep your mouth shut
Speaker 1: or you open your mouth and say nothing. You just
Speaker 1: generic speak, and yeah, these guys are all so good
Speaker 1: at that. You see him play it out like nobody
Speaker 1: makes a mistake. But you watch earlier seasons, dude, or
Speaker 1: seasons with Nubes on it, and they're just like they're
Speaker 1: like I was feeling this way and now I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Everybody just turned to them and pounced like they're just
Speaker 1: like all right, you're out of here, or somebody will
Speaker 1: say something you know, offensive, or it's it's like, so
Speaker 1: these guys are all pros. They're not making any of
Speaker 1: those mistakes, which makes for kind of a boring tribal.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. The best it'll get better, Oh dude,
Speaker 1: there's the best tribals are when you have like immunity reveals,
Speaker 1: or when people are like getting up and whispering to
Speaker 1: each other, Like they'll get up and start whispering, and
Speaker 1: then they'll other people realize those two are whispering, so
Speaker 1: then they got a whisper to their teammates. And then
Speaker 1: people are lying to your face like no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: fake whispering. It's okay, and you're like it's over. It's yeah.
Speaker 1: So it can be crazy, but this is a very
Speaker 1: tame trible. I was surprised, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2: I wanted her to go, but I was surprised.
Speaker 1: I did not think they were going to vote for Ozzy.
Speaker 1: But I did think that there was a chance that
Speaker 1: it was going to be a you know, Surrie was
Speaker 1: gonna go up.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, judging by just what we saw,
Speaker 3: Serrie was the logical choice. I flat out She's the
Speaker 3: logical choice we had. We lost the challenge essentially, or
Speaker 3: at least you took us out of the possibility of
Speaker 3: winning right legitimately, so you know, but again, had Jenna
Speaker 3: not come so hard so fast.
Speaker 1: There's something slightly poetic about the first first season player
Speaker 1: being the first one.
Speaker 2: I just want to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her exit speech is one of my favorite things
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 1: By the way, I can't remember what she was.
Speaker 2: She's just like, I'm just really happy to be here.
Speaker 3: It was so sweet and that, you know, it just
Speaker 3: shows men a lot to me, and I hope they
Speaker 3: lose every single challenge, and it was just like, oh shit, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about her. I never actually watched
Speaker 1: the first season, so I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I remember naked Guy. I'll always remember naked Guy. That's it.
Speaker 1: So Jenna is voted out tribal she I think. I'm
Speaker 1: happy about that, but I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: the right choice. I agree, like I think if you're
Speaker 1: just thinking strategy, because Sarri is going to be a
Speaker 1: monster player like she has done so well, so you
Speaker 1: do kind of want to get out a big player
Speaker 1: or early, especially a big player who's not good in challenges,
Speaker 1: right because that person is going to be better in
Speaker 1: the munich in the individual game, and you want to
Speaker 1: keep somebody like Ozzie or good at challenges now, and
Speaker 1: Jenna was good at challenges, like she was physically keeping
Speaker 1: it up and do you know so.
Speaker 3: But not a single person except Jenna voted for her,
Speaker 3: not a single one.
Speaker 1: I know. I think it's either be one or two.
Speaker 1: I know. And yeah, considering the Sury screwed up as
Speaker 1: much as she did, that's pretty it shows that she's
Speaker 1: really unlike, yeah, all right, so at Vatu you get
Speaker 1: this Kyle's ankle situation. Uh, and yeah, and then unbelievably,
Speaker 1: Genevieve finds an idol or a wrap of something wrapped up.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, I don't know
Speaker 3: what any of this means.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you kind of don't. The reality there are
Speaker 1: there's usually hidden stuff. Sometimes it's an idol, like in
Speaker 1: this case it is the special Boomerang idol. But other
Speaker 1: times you'd just be like, uh. Other times it'll be
Speaker 1: like a what's called a beware advantage, which is something
Speaker 1: you find that says you can take this, but it
Speaker 1: also can backfire on you. It'll be like you get
Speaker 1: to vote for the next you know, you get an
Speaker 1: extra vote, but if you don't use it, you get
Speaker 1: a two negative, you know, two rounds. But in this case,
Speaker 1: it is just this boomerang idol that you give to somebody.
Speaker 2: This was convoluted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you give to somebody on another tribe.
Speaker 3: On another tribe, and either you're giving it to somebody
Speaker 3: you want to eventually build an alliance with, or somebody
Speaker 3: you want to get out, because because if they're getting
Speaker 3: voted out while still holding the idol, so they don't
Speaker 3: use it, Yes, it comes back to you and you
Speaker 3: can do it again.
Speaker 1: Yes, And so she makes the best choice she could,
Speaker 1: which is to give it to Aussie because that's actually
Speaker 1: happened to him. He has been voted out with an
Speaker 1: idol in his pocket, and you know that he is
Speaker 1: probably a target because you know he's always a target.
Speaker 1: So I think it's really smart. I mean, then why
Speaker 1: wouldn't he use them?
Speaker 3: Why would he if he's always a target, he knows
Speaker 3: he's constantly getting screwed.
Speaker 2: Why is he getting kicked out with idols in his pocket.
Speaker 1: I'm confused by this. Is if he uses the idol,
Speaker 1: does it come back to her too? No?
Speaker 3: I think then it's dead. I think if he's kicked
Speaker 3: out with it in his pocket, it comes back to.
Speaker 2: Her, and if he uses it, he.
Speaker 1: But he's also a very powerful player, so it's a
Speaker 1: smart move because if he if he doesn't use it
Speaker 1: and up until they merge, she could form an alliance
Speaker 1: with him. Of course, she could be like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: the one gauge. So even if he does play it,
Speaker 1: he's going to owe her, you know, Like, let's say
Speaker 1: he plays it before they merge, and then they merge.
Speaker 1: She said, you're going to be able to say to him, like, dude,
Speaker 1: I gave this out, gave these people here, I chose
Speaker 1: you to support your game. That's a I think it's
Speaker 1: a good move, man. It's like you want to pick
Speaker 1: a power player.
Speaker 3: Basically, she decided it was a fine day for a
Speaker 3: white wedding and ended up with a Billie idol.
Speaker 2: So let's never forget that, my friends, because it's important.
Speaker 1: All right, And it's always interesting to see who they
Speaker 1: tell and who they don't when they find an idol, right,
Speaker 1: because you really don't want everybody on your tribe to
Speaker 1: know you have an idol. It's like it's one of
Speaker 1: those things but you usually want to tell at least
Speaker 1: one person, but then of course that person has the
Speaker 1: power to betray you by telling other people. Now here's
Speaker 1: my question.
Speaker 3: If what's the downside of telling everybody on your tribe, like, hey, everybody,
Speaker 3: I just want.
Speaker 2: You to know I found an idol.
Speaker 1: Then they might force you to play it, like they
Speaker 1: might then vote for you just to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Because every time an idol gets used, it comes back
Speaker 1: into the game in some form.
Speaker 3: Okay, so they think, very I make you use yours
Speaker 3: and eventually I might I'll come back.
Speaker 1: Or you're just don't want somebody to have an idol
Speaker 1: knowing you know, like yeah, so you'll blindside them. If
Speaker 1: you know somebody is an idol. The rest of the
Speaker 1: rest of the tribe will probably just blindside you for
Speaker 1: the sake of flushing the idol, or they'll just make
Speaker 1: you play it. They'll be like, we're voting for you,
Speaker 1: so now you have to play it because they don't
Speaker 1: want you to have the advantage over them. No, it's tricky, man,
Speaker 1: it's tricky at all. It's so then we have this
Speaker 1: like journey where boats show up and again I say
Speaker 1: never or volteer to go on a journey, but Mike
Speaker 1: goes on the journey, Savannah goes for Cela, and Kolby goes, Now,
Speaker 1: Kobe did it.
Speaker 3: If what you're saying is true, then Kobe did it
Speaker 3: the right way then by going kind of essentially saying,
Speaker 3: I I'm not happy about this, I don't want to go,
Speaker 3: but if everybody wants me to go, I'll go.
Speaker 1: Yes, And Savannah it was random, I believe right, that
Speaker 1: was just a numbers game they did, like whoever picked
Speaker 1: closest to sixteen?
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: And then Mike was like, I never got to go
Speaker 3: on a single one when I was on. Let me,
Speaker 3: let me do it take a journey.
Speaker 1: You surprised he did that, man, because yeah, you get
Speaker 1: into some sticky situations on this journey and as it
Speaker 1: showed it happened, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so Mike, Mike goes and they tell him that
Speaker 1: Coach robbed the key from Ozzy, which snaked it from
Speaker 1: as ends up you know, does at first does not
Speaker 1: seem like that big of information, but it kind of
Speaker 1: plays into the rest of the episode.
Speaker 3: Does and kisses Ozzy off something fierce because he's honorable,
Speaker 3: like a coach coach off.
Speaker 2: Why are you because now and writers tell me you're
Speaker 2: not so honorable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they they draw rocks and Mike goes home immediately,
Speaker 1: which is such a pointless journey. Yeah, what was the
Speaker 1: point of the boat ride? You know? Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: It just it can see suspicion in your tribe. Like
Speaker 1: he's gonna go home and say I came home empty handed,
Speaker 1: and like there's a big chance that people won't believe.
Speaker 1: You know, in this case, I think that they actually
Speaker 1: believe him. I don't think I don't anybody.
Speaker 2: I'm gone for thirty seconds r.
Speaker 1: But also he comes back and he gives that information
Speaker 1: about the coach, and that becomes more important to everybody
Speaker 1: than the fact that he came home empty handed. But
Speaker 1: he you know, a lot of people lie, they get
Speaker 1: an advantage. They come back from a journey and they're like,
Speaker 1: there was nothing, we just to our beach. So when
Speaker 1: Mike comes back, he's lucky that they actually believe him
Speaker 1: because there's hurting chocolate, there's nothing there. It's just me
Speaker 1: by myself, all right. And so then we have a
Speaker 1: Savannah and Kolby doing the stacking gig jenga like game
Speaker 1: and does going high when she's shorter.
Speaker 3: Terrible thing to do, man, really, yeah, with you got
Speaker 3: you gotta make it wide and stable. I mean at
Speaker 3: that point you're just you see how much his hand
Speaker 3: was shaken too.
Speaker 1: I mean his hands are like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a foolish man who beats his house upon the sand.
Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta build that base.
Speaker 1: So he loses his vote, and now it seems like
Speaker 1: she's just gonna keep her vote, right, But then she
Speaker 1: gets to the boat and they give her a secret
Speaker 1: block of.
Speaker 3: Vote, which which you said tends to happen. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: get some kind of thing something.
Speaker 1: So Mike returns tells Coach the gossip, and Coach takes
Speaker 1: it hard, which you got the allowsand yard stereo, I know,
Speaker 1: dead behind me. And then he's like, oh right, he
Speaker 1: wants to play hard. He's gonna turn on Ozzie. So
Speaker 1: all their apologies and like last yes, which you know,
Speaker 1: Ozzie was like just telling the truth, Like it's not
Speaker 1: like he went back and said Coach is a snake.
Speaker 1: He went back and said Coach stole it from me,
Speaker 1: after which she described exaccurately.
Speaker 3: So coach forty five minutes in my was killing me.
Speaker 3: I finally knocked it off and east all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: That's what makes sikes all right. On Vatu, you've got
Speaker 1: Q and Coleby both down votes, so they're in a
Speaker 1: tough spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: On Cela, Savannah comes back and doesn't tell everyone that
Speaker 1: she has a block of vote and buys it. Doesn't
Speaker 1: believe her, No one buys it, doesn't believe her, so instantly,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: Instantly, So it's just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't turn on Mike, which I'm curious
Speaker 1: if that's going to happen because he came back it
Speaker 1: up and see I'm.
Speaker 3: Wondering if it's one of those things though where he
Speaker 3: was gone for five years or yeah, he's gone for
Speaker 3: five or seven a likability like Mike, and he came
Speaker 3: a good piece of gossip, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Whereas Savannah, you know, she's a player, she just wants,
Speaker 1: she wants. She's they're like suspicious of her.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, now does that does anybody? I mean there
Speaker 3: are episodes where people are like, Okay, I don't believe you.
Speaker 2: What did you get?
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, okay. Often they'll just call them out
Speaker 1: and then that person can decide like I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the truth okay, or please don't tell so and so
Speaker 1: or whatever, or they make up a lie and they
Speaker 1: just insist on it. But lying in this game usually
Speaker 1: doesn't work very long. Like you usually want to confide
Speaker 1: in somebody, at least one more person, Yeah, because it
Speaker 1: because just lying to is. The more people you lie to,
Speaker 1: the harder this game gets, I find. But you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm the type of person who just
Speaker 1: hates lying.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's also a good good rule of thumb for life.
Speaker 2: More you lie to, the harder it gets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Jeff shows up with the medical to
Speaker 1: check Kyle's achilles heel. This was just such a bummer.
Speaker 3: It also shows some pretty phenomenal advances in medical technology
Speaker 3: when the guy is doing it ultra.
Speaker 2: On his phone. What the heck, dud dude?
Speaker 3: Insane? Yea insane? Cool me too, I thought the same thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like Wars or Star Trek.
Speaker 1: We're literally in a Star Trek seeing right now your tricorder? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I can't scan your bone and your liked, Oh tell me, Jim,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to see if he snapped us a killing.
Speaker 3: So c.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in the middle of the jungle and we're like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you need a giant piece of equipment and
Speaker 3: I'll do it on my phone with a little thing crazy.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, this was a lot of coverage. Man,
Speaker 1: this is a long episode.
Speaker 3: It was, and I don't mean to make it any longer.
Speaker 3: But as you do know, I am an expert on
Speaker 3: all things.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I was first an expert on the history of dance.
Speaker 2: I then became an.
Speaker 3: Expert on the history of the most famous traders that
Speaker 3: I've ever walked the planet. But did you know that
Speaker 3: there's also some serious survivors that have walked the planets
Speaker 3: with some incredible stories, and I'm calling them all I
Speaker 3: do by heart encyclopedic or for people in my generation
Speaker 3: card catalogic.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I liked walk through the dew decimal system of my
Speaker 3: mind in a section that I'm calling Will's history of
Speaker 3: famous survivors from stuff that happened in history in the
Speaker 3: past past.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So you know that I work on it perfectly. I'm
Speaker 3: going to start with a very interesting story. This is
Speaker 3: the story of somebody named Ada Blackjack from nineteen twenty one.
Speaker 1: Oh what a name, great name, Blackjack.
Speaker 3: She's also known as the Forgotten Female Castaway. She was
Speaker 3: stranded on an icy expanse of Wrangele Island in the
Speaker 3: Arctic after a doom expedition for.
Speaker 1: Nearly two years.
Speaker 3: She relied on her resourcefulness and determination, hunting and foraging
Speaker 3: to stay alive as the only survivor despite overwhelming ods
Speaker 3: and isolation. Ada's quiet strength helped her endure until rescue arrived.
Speaker 3: Her remarkable stories attribute to perseverance in the harshest conditions.
Speaker 2: Wait with black What year is nineteen twenty one? In
Speaker 2: the Arctic? A woman by herself of black two?
Speaker 1: I wonder what she had with her like as far
Speaker 1: as like was she you have shipwrecked supplies like.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you. But you should go study it yourself,
Speaker 2: is what I would say about you.
Speaker 1: I want you to. I can't believe that hasn't been
Speaker 1: made into a movie. I'm sure it will be absolutely
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