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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Twirled, a podcast that once chronicle

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Speaker 1: two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: but they watched a season and somehow walked away experts.

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Speaker 1: From there, we ventured into Traders, the show I'd never

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Speaker 1: seen but Will swore he could win. And now we

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Speaker 1: turned to Survivor season fifty, the big One. This time

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Speaker 1: the roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly one season

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Speaker 1: the first. Meanwhile, I've watched for years. We are wilfrid l,

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Speaker 1: who prefers his wilderness with room service, and Right or Strong,

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Speaker 1: who will hike any mountain but hates the beach. Two

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Speaker 1: best friends, one devoted to the comforts of civilization, one

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Speaker 1: who would never leave the woods if he could. Both

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Speaker 1: reality competition scholars join us as we dive into alliances, blindsides,

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Speaker 1: fire making, sand related misery, and twenty five years of

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Speaker 1: television history culminating in a massive season. This is Pod

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Speaker 1: Meets Twirled, Seeking Immunity. Okay, should we start recapping the

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Speaker 1: show now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right? So always, you know, they always arrive on

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Speaker 1: an island in a big group on you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: they've done seasons where they're like on a pirate ship

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Speaker 1: or like a big boat. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: they get to a location like this and they all

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Speaker 1: just kind of stand there and meet each other. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In this case is really interesting because they all have

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Speaker 1: history with the show before. Yea, all have known.

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Speaker 2: Of each other if they each other, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They've been a part of each other's seasons. It's yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is an interesting one, and it's there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of names. There's a lot of people to keep up with,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not really sure how we're going to go

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Speaker 1: to figure out who they are.

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Speaker 2: And obviously as they people get weeded out, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be easier to remember everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's like Traders. Do you remember who did the first

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Speaker 3: twenty four people in Traders? Of course not, So we'll

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Speaker 3: get there.

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Speaker 1: Overwhelming overwhelming, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing I will say. It is a

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Speaker 2: It was a three hour.

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Speaker 1: Premiere, two hours three really.

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Speaker 2: I watched it on CBS.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you had the commercials, right, I had the

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Speaker 1: commercial So I watched it on Paramount Plus, so I

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Speaker 1: guess it was well commercial.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you watch without commercials, there's no commercials on

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Speaker 3: Paramout Plus. Okay, so I have to get Paramoutplus. But

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Speaker 3: it was a three hour premiere. Yeah, it is not

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Speaker 3: hyperbole when I say there is nothing, and I mean

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Speaker 3: nothing I want to do for three hours you name it, sex,

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Speaker 3: eating a good meal, watching a movie for three hours. No,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing I want to.

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Speaker 2: Do for three hours.

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Speaker 1: Too much Survivor.

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Speaker 3: Too much Survivor as the opening gambit, do an hour

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Speaker 3: maybe two hour long thing.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The ads were insufferable towards the end. They were coming

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Speaker 1: I can't watch commercials, so I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just gonna I'm gonna sign up for Paramount Plus today.

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Speaker 3: So you watched it the same.

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Speaker 1: Night, you watch it today, I watch it the next.

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Speaker 2: There you go that. So I have to watch it

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Speaker 2: the next day without commerce.

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Speaker 1: Yes what I got it? Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: I watched it live and yeah, it goes up in

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Speaker 3: Paramount the next morning.

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Speaker 2: So I watched it live. Yes, again, nothing I want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think after because you know, normally a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you ended it was it was yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: And it's like, wait, now there's two fays you should

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Speaker 1: All right. So the main characters that we meet in

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Speaker 1: God, yeah, so she was only like twenty when she

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Speaker 3: Yep, I thought the same thing. It's like, well, there's

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Speaker 3: so Mike White is there and yeah, you know who

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Speaker 3: he is, right of course, and the second he got there,

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Speaker 3: School of Rock is here.

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Speaker 1: because he's socially wonderful in that he he reads people

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Speaker 1: they don't usually expect like a celebrity version of the show. No,

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Speaker 3: And they even say that, they're like, you don't have

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Speaker 1: Here, exactly want to do And you know, I love

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Speaker 1: No, he says it when he goes it's.

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Speaker 1: So then there's this guy Devon's Rick Devons, who the

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't remember this guy, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: Then you've got Siri, who is probably like one of

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Speaker 1: No, no, she always manages to I mean, like you

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Speaker 2: I just get to try to get everybody.

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Speaker 3: Right? Gonna?

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Speaker 1: You know, and you see that that's also interesting.

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Speaker 3: You see people that are clearly also trying to fight

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Speaker 1: That that's what makes this season want yes to me?

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Speaker 1: And that's that's what you're that's probably what's going to

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Speaker 1: it's just and luckily they're spelling it out, you know,

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Speaker 1: like they're saying, like Ozzie's like I got taken advantage

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Speaker 3: It was like, wait, what was Colby known for? I

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Speaker 3: remember the Colby one. I remember parts of the Colby season. Actually, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I remember it's done more than one. But yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I think it was the second season because if memory serves,

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Speaker 3: the thing that made him so famous was the fact

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Speaker 3: that he essentially voted in such a way at the end,

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Speaker 3: guaranteeing so somebody other than him one like he gave

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Speaker 3: it away. He could have, if memory serves, he could

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Speaker 3: him and everybody loved him. Or he could have voted

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Speaker 3: the villain out and there was an older woman there

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Speaker 3: who really needed the money, and he essentially knew.

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Speaker 2: He was giving it away.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and that's what he did, and he became hugely

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Speaker 3: honorable player. And then he went on from him right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: They've done them random, they've done them random seasons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So did you notice did you vote no? I wish

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they're making a murder for them. I

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Speaker 1: Well I forget who said it, but they were like,

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Speaker 3: nerds Christian. Yeah, who's a total nerd and and you

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Speaker 3: I know, but it was nobody figured that out. Come on.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a brain, a brain and brawn as opposed

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Speaker 1: And it's just it's really about the stuff that we

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. And some of the most

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Speaker 1: So Va Tu Sila and Calo yep so Va two.

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Speaker 2: She was flying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, you can see how certain people are

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Speaker 3: Giant, giant gant Jonathan where it's Mike. Mike White is

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Speaker 2: That's correact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And those those people you need, you know, like

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Speaker 3: Unabashedly will tell you that I spent forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: Wait? Where are his patchwork?

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Speaker 3: He's wearing these awesome like patch together pants, and I

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Speaker 1: That's trying to find this pair of pants to buy.

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Speaker 3: No, that they just look like comfy, awesome hippie like

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Speaker 2: Please let me know where I can get those pants.

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Speaker 1: Survivors. So it's so funny because they always you know,

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Speaker 1: Time and it's like by episode two, they're just bathing

438
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 1: suits and buffs. You just watch them like stripped down

439
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,720
Speaker 1: or turtle.

440
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 2: Neck sweaters and long trench coats exactly.

441
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 1: But stuff gets frayed over time. By like the third episode,

442
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,400
Speaker 1: they're all just dirty and miserable, you know. Love it's

443
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 1: that Yeah, and you'll see they lose weight quickly. This

444
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 1: is the best anybody is going to look. As one

445
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 1: of the.

446
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 3: Reasons I want to go on this show, I just

447
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 3: want to want to drop a few.

448
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's shocking when they show flat like

449
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 1: when you get to the end of the season and

450
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,679
Speaker 1: then they show flashbacks to like, you know, the beginning

451
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 1: of the season, which was only like twenty days earlier,

452
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,640
Speaker 1: but they look like different human beings. It's really intense.

453
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, I wonder how, like do they have mirrors

454
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 1: for them to look at before they go on.

455
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: I doubt it, you know, I you know, I'm guessing

456
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 2: they don't.

457
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 3: Is because several a what would drive me nuts is

458
00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 3: that you're covered in sand and itchy probably all day. Yeah,

459
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 3: and they had there's a couple people that had like

460
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 3: sand right at the edge of their noses and stuff.

461
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 3: Like that where you know, if they had a mirror,

462
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 3: they would have been knocking stuff. So yeah, they just

463
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: it's probably like, hey, you're on the island now, don't

464
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 3: worry about how you look.

465
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 2: Just go win the game.

466
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 1: God, it's so it's so uncomfortable. I hate the beach

467
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: so much, right, So, like I would much rather do

468
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 1: alone where I don't want to be alone, but I

469
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: would much rather it be in a cold, windy environment

470
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,719
Speaker 1: with like, you know, trees around me than like this

471
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 1: kind of exposure on the beach, Like.

472
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 3: No, no, you're this is this is you know again,

473
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,959
Speaker 3: when I at first when they were exiled, which will

474
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: get there, I was like, Oh that's not gonna be

475
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 3: that big a deal.

476
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh that's gotta suck.

477
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, So Vatu wins this first challenge,

478
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: so the other teams just never made up that lead

479
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: that Stephanie got from coming out into the wall hugely incredible.

480
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: And then we have this single players sent for supply

481
00:20:54,600 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 1: challenge and that ends up being Coach Azzy and.

482
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: Q and Coach and Ozzy apparently have a history.

483
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: They go back, they were rivals, and I thought this

484
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: was super interesting because you know, they kind of shook

485
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: hands and apologize both of them to you know, put

486
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: it behind them. But didn't seem to last long, did it? No?

487
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: And you wonder again, knowing nothing of their history, I

488
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: didn't know where I kind of thought Coach was in

489
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: the right until later, and then I was.

490
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 1: Like, maybe he's not.

491
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude's so yeah, I didn't know.

492
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: Coach is. You know, he's just he's one of those

493
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 1: guys who likes to be called coach, you know what

494
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, which is weird enough. He likes to

495
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: lead yoga on the beach and like he says, like

496
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of like fortune cookie kind of you.

497
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: Know, give us, give us a coaches before we start.

498
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: He wants to be like the like benevolent, wise, uh

499
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: new age leader. But then he's kind of just the

500
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: guy who does whatever it takes to win. And that's

501
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: that contradiction is sleazy to me, Like I just I

502
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: get that. Yeah, but you know, he's got his supporters

503
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: out there, and it is a game like you gotta

504
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: win by by being manipulative at some point, so.

505
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 2: I get it.

506
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. So these are all three very physical guys that

507
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: they send on the supply Challenge, which turns out to

508
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: be smart because it is a physical challenge, although it's

509
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: it's you know, you see, like Ozzie out of the gate,

510
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: is just insane, like he's already way ahead of the

511
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: other two even though they're all pretty fit.

512
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know how good this guy was.

513
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: Is that good? But then it turns out that doesn't

514
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: really matter much because this stick challenge is just so ridiculous.

515
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: They have to tie these sticks together go through a

516
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: fence to get a key that it just clearly cannot reach.

517
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, and there's this little tense moment where Ozzie

518
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: says like, hey, you know if I'm not if you

519
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: knock it off, I'll let you have it. Or what

520
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: does he say?

521
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: He says to Q like no, I think maybe in

522
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 3: a que that says like, hey, man, if you knock

523
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: it off, I'm not going to steal it.

524
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: From you, right, I'm not going to steal it from here.

525
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: And then the coach was like, I made no such promise.

526
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: Yep, And that's exactly what happened, and that just a

527
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: scramble for yeah, right, and you know, to be fair,

528
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: and Ozzie's not like super pissed. I mean he's just like, yeah,

529
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: that's kind of standard, coach, but I.

530
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, it seems like it's pay He's like, yeah,

531
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 3: it's part for of the course. The guy ten minutes

532
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: ago or whatever, now an hour and a half ago

533
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: told me I'm so sorry. We're good, and now it's

534
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: like business as usual.

535
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: It's like okay.

536
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: But so it's interesting with these kinds of solo missions

537
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: that you get sent on. You see it later in

538
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: this episode too, they can really backfire on you because

539
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: people don't trust you when you come back because there's

540
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: often secret advantages given. So, like my rule of thumb is,

541
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: never go on a solo adventure. You never volunteer to

542
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: do this because it rarely works. I find it's like

543
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: you find yourself in a sticky situation where you're like

544
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: given the choice to steal a vote or lose a vote,

545
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: which is kind of what happens here. You know, like

546
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: Q gets kind of screwed right like her, he sold

547
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: his vote to get the supplies and Ozzy to his credit, Ozzie,

548
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: this is what he's learned from past seasons, which is

549
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: that he provided for everybody by catching fish and it

550
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: never helped, like he still got screwed. Ironically, he still

551
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: ends up doing that at the end of this episode.

552
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: He's still providing and being a sucker, but at this

553
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: point he takes a stand for himself and says, no,

554
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take the machete in the supplies.

555
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give up my vote for that.

556
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take it, you know, which is

557
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: super interesting. He's like, I'd rather just go home empty handed,

558
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of an evolution for him

559
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: and a smart move, just like I think him partnering

560
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: with Syria is a really really smart move. So he's

561
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: my guy. Man, I'm I'm.

562
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting interesting team Colby at this point because he's

563
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: the only one I kind of know.

564
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. He's the only dude I know.

565
00:24:53,480 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's see Vatu coming back. After a

566
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: commercial break, this is where we have Angelina, Stephanie Colby.

567
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: Stephanie and Colby are immediately working hard and strategizing. The

568
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: key starts naming names, singles out Rizzo for being you know,

569
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: talking too much and working too little, and I mean

570
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: my immediate sense was like, oh, this season is like

571
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: people know how to play because what usually happens on

572
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: this first day is you get to the camp and

573
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: people are just like, oh, we got to build a shelter,

574
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: and they either just focus on building a shelter and

575
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: they don't talk any strategy and that can really screw you.

576
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: Or people get to the beach and they just decide

577
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: to like socialize and get to know one another and

578
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: they don't take the time to build a shelter, and

579
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: they get screwed and they have like a miserable night.

580
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting to see the people who have

581
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: played before they know to strike that balance immediately, like

582
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: you need to all be working as hard as you

583
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: can but also find time to assess each other's character.

584
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: And Colby's a pro dude. He's immediately doing that. You

585
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: can see he's working so hard, but you know, building

586
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: a shelter, but then automatically turning to and like assessing

587
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: everybody around him, being like, we need to do this.

588
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Super super smart player, and they all

589
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: are pretty smart players.

590
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: He reminds me of Rob c from Traders, if he

591
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: wasn't bad totally, meaning like everyone's gonna like him. He's

592
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: a man's man. He's gonna pull his weight and challenges.

593
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: He's going to be friendly, he's but he's still going

594
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: to play the game.

595
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Yep.

596
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: So he's got that kind of vibe to him. Yeah,

597
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: which you're just I mean even the other all the

598
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: other players are like, dude, Colby, like, I'm so sepy

599
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 2: And this.

600
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: Is what's probab. The problem is when you're that dominant

601
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: physically and like, once you get into an individual game,

602
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: you're the first one out because because everybody want to

603
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: keep you to win against other teams. But then when

604
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: it's against each other and you're you're the biggest threat. Like,

605
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: so that's why the big challenge people like Ozzy and

606
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Coach like they are, they are kings up until the

607
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: individual game. That's it. Then then the individual game flips

608
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: the entire thing.

609
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: And then but the individual game isn't all isn't also

610
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: stuff that you strengthen speed, but it's.

611
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: All your own against yourself. And also you also, if

612
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: you have a good social game and you're friends with everybody,

613
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: even if you don't win an individual immunity, then you're

614
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: not going to get voted out. Do you see what

615
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They're going to vote out so there are

616
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: sometimes when it's like you have these physical you have

617
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: these games. I'm forgetting the one guy's name. He had

618
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: to just keep winning physical challenges because everybody was like,

619
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: we're voting you out, we're voting you out. And he

620
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: won like five in a row because it was his

621
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: only option, do you know what I mean? And then

622
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: at a certain point people are like, well, he's just

623
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: going to keep winning individual immunity, so we have to

624
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: make an alliance with him. But it's so interesting the game,

625
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: the way the game changes from.

626
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: Group and right, does that spen it normally?

627
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: When it gets down to like ten ish people, I

628
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: think eight, eight or ten people?

629
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: Well, see the question how many how many episodes of

630
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: Survivor are this is a full season or their twenty

631
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 3: something episodes?

632
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: Or is just like ten or twelve episod?

633
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: No I believe there's like twenty two. Yeah it's a

634
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: full season. Okay, all right, all right. So then over

635
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: at Collo, you've got d who I remember and love.

636
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: She's a great player. Charlie is an incredible social player.

637
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: He's like he's the younger guy, kind of skinny guy.

638
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: He's like a huge Taylor Swift fan. He was from

639
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: like a couple of seasons ago, and he had a

640
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: really smart game where he he did this thing if

641
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: I remember, and it's him that like he studied all

642
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: the individual immunity challenges and noticed that there's a preponderance

643
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: of challenges that require like this muscle like on your

644
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: arm or your your fore arms or you're like the

645
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: back of your he because they'll be like you have

646
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: to sit on a ledge or hold this thing up right.

647
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: So he spent months working just those muscles and it

648
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: totally worked. It was amazing. So he's like a real

649
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: survivor strategist. He also do this really smart thing where

650
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: like in the last season he picked like two older

651
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: women and was like I'm going with you all the

652
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: way because he knew that like those are going to

653
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: be the social players that could like help him out

654
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: the most. And he's just a he's a good guy

655
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: and a good player. I don't think he won, if

656
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm remembering correctly. He didn't win, but he ended up

657
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: in the final.

658
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: This is Charlie.

659
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Charlie, great guy. And then Giant a Giant and

660
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: then the same team you got Mike White showing off

661
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: his abs, which is hysterical because he is like, you know,

662
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: his first couple of seasons, he's like the pasty, nerdy guy.

663
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: You're like, this guy does not belong on the beach,

664
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: and now he looks like.

665
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, he's got six packs.

666
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: And this is where he starts crying about, you know,

667
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: almost crying, talking about how survivor experience has helped him

668
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: get through his tough challenges on White Lotus and that's

669
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: why he came back, which I think is so cool.

670
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: Super likable this guy.

671
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of them are likable, man, yes,

672
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: really yeah, yeah, it's not like old there have been

673
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: seasons past. We're just like, I hate these people.

674
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: There's only one to me this entire first episode that

675
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: I didn't find amazingly likable, and that was Jenna, right, yep, yeah,

676
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: and that's the one that went away.

677
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I mean. It's a good season. So

678
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a positive this season, you know,

679
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: like it's so far.

680
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: See the second she came in, she came in guns

681
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: blaze and.

682
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: Not play that hard man pay. The same thing happened

683
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: on Traders. You cannot come in like too hot. It

684
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: really like, I don't understand, Like, dude, you have to

685
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: just play the long game. No, that's what Mike White

686
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: is a genius at. He's always like, let other people

687
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: make the decisions, make let them be aggressively forming alliances

688
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: and making enemies, because you can inevitably make enemies. So

689
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: just let them do it and you can fly under

690
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: the radar. I mean, it's it's a genius strategy.

691
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: It's you know, it was so funny because she's the

692
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: only one. I was like, ooh, I don't I don't

693
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 3: like her.

694
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: That was it.

695
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: That's what happened.

696
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: There you go. So that's on Sila and we go

697
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: to that tribe. Next, you got Joe the Firefighter. He's

698
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: another great guy. He's like a super big dude, big

699
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: beefy challenge guy who's also pretty great, Like he's a

700
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: good dude, and then.

701
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: He saves people's lives for living what do you expect exactly?

702
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: And then Sarria is just sort of like the everyman player,

703
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: right she is that she's always been a fan favorite

704
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: because she's the audience, oh, the audio, the biggest audiencer.

705
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Everyone just loves her. And then you got Jenna in

706
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: this team, who, yeah, you know, I like, yeah, and

707
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: it's funny because I wonder you know, I'm actually not

708
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: she she hasn't played since season one, has she?

709
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: No, she hasn't yet.

710
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: That she that you know, they're on the beach for

711
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: it seems like four minutes unless they edited it weirdly,

712
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: and she's like here here, so we're going to vote Soria.

713
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Who's who's voting?

714
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: Set?

715
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, you're kind by

716
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: the way, my name is Dave, Like I'm on your team.

717
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, you don't even know she's she's I think

718
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: she's been watching for the last forty eight and nine

719
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: seasons and been strategizing and she did it too hard,

720
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: like she's just like and she she is right that

721
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Siri is a huge threat because surely everybody loves her,

722
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: not only the audience, but like in the tribes, people

723
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: like her.

724
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: Do that. No, man, but you slow burn it, you know,

725
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, that was that was even I

726
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: knew that was terrible strat And.

727
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: Then we've got Savannah, who apparently just won season forty nine,

728
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: which I didn't get to see because my son and

729
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: my wife watched it with out me, So I have

730
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: no knowledge that you're still right, because Ruezo is also

731
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: from season forty nine, so I have no but she

732
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: seems great and she admits to them that she won

733
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: season forty nine. Yeah, which means she had two weeks off.

734
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: She says, Oh, that I think is given going to

735
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: give her a huge advantage if she's fine, you know,

736
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: like she like if she and I guess, is she

737
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: the one that like starved herself before coming on and

738
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: one maybe I think it's yeah, when she's playing well,

739
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: and that's that's going to help her because she's she's

740
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, she's also a younger.

741
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: I would imagine everybody, if you're running, it's a lot

742
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: easier to run a marathon. If you don't run thirteen

743
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: miles one day, stop, take a good night's sleep, get

744
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: a rest, and try to run thirteen miles. It's easier

745
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: to just run the whole damn thing at one time.

746
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: So she's just made marathon right now, exactly. Let's just

747
00:32:45,920 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: keep going crazy, all right.

748
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: So we actually already covered what happens next, which is

749
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: a supply solo run with Coach and Aussie and Q,

750
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and the way that that ends is with Coach returning

751
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: to Carlo. He gives his toe ring to.

752
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: Charlie, which you've been wearing since nineteen eighty two?

753
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Did he say full of toe? Jim? You just know

754
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: that's so gross, But Charlie's kind of a good sport

755
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: about it. I guess Chrissy and Coach have this moment

756
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: in the water. Chrissy's already targeting D because she won

757
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: before over.

758
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: I was amazed, frankly because just not being not knowing

759
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: the show, was amazed how fast the kind of quote

760
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: ute scheming starts.

761
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

762
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: I know it has to because that's the thing. That's

763
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: what always used to happen, is that people would just

764
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: be like, we got to just survive, and they wouldn't

765
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: focus on the gameplay and they would just get screwed.

766
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: So these people they know that the earlier you form

767
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: alliances and don't deviate from them, the better off you are.

768
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Like if if you can actually find your ride or

769
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: die and you have the numbers, you know, like you

770
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: got to stick together because otherwise you have to figure

771
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: out who you can trust and never turn your back

772
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: on them, because well, you're right.

773
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: It seems like they've done They've all done this so

774
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: many times, Like we all notice skip the four play.

775
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: Let's just get right to the business. Exactly what seems

776
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: to be happening.

777
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: Right over on Cela. You have Rick Devans, the like

778
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: idol hound guy, and Christian and him this whole Kirk

779
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: and Spock relationship.

780
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: I love these guys.

781
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: These guys too. I love how much they love each other.

782
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 1: Isn't it the best when they're like I was hoping

783
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: it would be you and they're like, I could kiss you. Yeah.

784
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: I love these guys. And then against.

785
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Emily on board, Emily is a great player. It's interesting

786
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: because Emily was a huge underdog her season, and she

787
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: even talks about it right here, and it seems to

788
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: be in the underdog because she was completely underestimated her

789
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: season because she wasn't like physically like in it, and

790
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: she even socially just sort of didn't have a lot

791
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: of friends immediately. But now she's in a situation where

792
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: people know her and like somebody like Rick is aligning

793
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: with her right away. So she's finding herself in a

794
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: new position where she's like actually being by people because she's,

795
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, used, she's not used to that.

796
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: It's she said that she's like, I'm this is so

797
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: strange like people want to date.

798
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Which is it's good. It's like because she is, she's

799
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: a really good player. She's yeah, she's actually very strong. Surprisingly,

800
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: over at VATU, you've got Colby and Kyle forming their thing.

801
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: Kyle, okay, Kyle Frasier right.

802
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: And Kyle and he's the one who hurts himself at

803
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: the end of this episode, which is such a bummer.

804
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: It sucks. I will get well because he's a.

805
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Really good, good dude and would look, you know, I

806
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing him play. They lock in Stephanie.

807
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: By the way, just since we just talked about him,

808
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: and we will get into the surgery. But he did

809
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: release a statement he it was torn and he needed

810
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: surgery that way.

811
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude. You could see when they squeeze his

812
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: leg and it doesn't.

813
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: Close, and you could see when they did, there's a

814
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: big He's like, you want to look for dark spots.

815
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, you mean like that right there? Dude. Oh

816
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: poor guy sucks. So then Kyle and Genevieve lock in.

817
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: So you've got a pretty good alliance. But then what

818
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: sucks about this alliance is they lose Kyle by the

819
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: end of this episode, and Q comes back with a vote.

820
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: So they're yeah, they're not in a great decision.

821
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: It was a tough it was a tough run for them.

822
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: So then Aubrey is one of those She's a again

823
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: like a sort of underdog of her season who really

824
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: did well because she was underestimated. And it was really

825
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: interesting the scene between her and Genevieve on the beach

826
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: where they're like kind of not trusting one another because

827
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: I sort of see each other's game. It was a

828
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: weird tension.

829
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: It was cool.

830
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's good. We'll see how that plays out.

831
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: So Ozzie and Q are stuck on Exile Island. You

832
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: can see how miserable that mis Ozzie spent an entire

833
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: season almost on Exile Island.

834
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: Oh but this is the guy whoever you said every time,

835
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: then I have a fish.

836
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: Dinner for you. He would We wait, yeah, and then

837
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: he would because then what they would have to do

838
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: that season. They had this whole system where if you

839
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: got exile or if you got kicked out of your tribe,

840
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: you went to Exile Island, and then you had a

841
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: contest with whoever was over on Exile Island, and then

842
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: if you if you lost to them, you'd get kicked off.

843
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: So Ozzy stayed on Exile Island for like five rounds

844
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: and people just kept coming through and then he would

845
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: kick their ass and a challenge and then he was fine.

846
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Like it was. It was super interesting, but oh geez.

847
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: So for all of the people to be stuck on

848
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: an exi island, Ozzie was easy the best one, okay,

849
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: but just looks miserable. Dude. They're talking about all the

850
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: bugs all over them.

851
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: And it looks like it's cold and the wind and

852
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: you're not going to sleep.

853
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks awful.

854
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: So then they have this this agreement where you know,

855
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Ozzie says he's not going to take the supplies and

856
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: go back, and Q is going to return with the

857
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: supplies but not.

858
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: Have not his vote.

859
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: What would you have done, as somebody who watches the show,

860
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: which one's more important the supplies are the vote?

861
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: It depends on how how good you're feeling. The problem

862
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: is right now, these guys have no reason to believe

863
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: they have anybody rooting for them. Is it just this week?

864
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: Did he lose the vote for just this week or

865
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: the next time he goes to tribal council.

866
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: No, it's just next time he goes to tribal council.

867
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so if the team doesn't go to tribal council

868
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: for five weeks, yes, but then he gets to try counsel.

869
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: He's lost this vote the next time they go.

870
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: But the real problem is, like I would say, take

871
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: the supplies and give up the vote. If you you're

872
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: you're you're confident that you're you're protected back home. Right,

873
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: these guys have missed the entire first night, so they

874
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: didn't get to strategize that there is no confidence in

875
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: like their team, and that's why Ozzie is like, I'm

876
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: not giving He's like, I'll be fine because I'm a survivalist.

877
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't need the supplies because you know, really, what

878
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I think is Q should have gone back and said

879
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: I lost my vote guys for you to give you

880
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: a supplies, so please don't vote for me because I

881
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: did the right thing for us to have a machete

882
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: and for us to have a pot. Like the fact

883
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: that he comes back and lies is I think kind

884
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: of a bad call because I think you, like I would,

885
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: if you take the thing, say you did it, and

886
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: that will earn you social capital. That, you know, to

887
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: make up for the fact that you missed everything. That's

888
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: what I would have done, and that's you know, Ozzie.

889
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: Ozzie is fine because he'll he'll provide in other ways

890
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: and he's like, screw it. But yeah, I think it's

891
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: super interesting that that that Q comes back in lies.

892
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: I this is the part about going on a solo

893
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: journey that I never want to do. So often they

894
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: come back with an advantage or a disadvantage. But you

895
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: have to make up a lie. Man. You just say, oh,

896
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I never found anything, or in this case, he makes

897
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: up some like coconut chow.

898
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: We had to run fifty yards with coconuts with something.

899
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: Were thanks, keep simple lie with thanks, all right. So

900
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: then we have Christian with a lens starting to fire,

901
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: which I thought was so cool, and Aussie helps him

902
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: get that. People like it was shocking what you do what?

903
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever happened on Survivor. But I

904
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: would totally learn. I would like, yeah, I would be

905
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: reading everything about local court flora and fauna and know everything.

906
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: How to make the bow and the spindle and do

907
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: everything and.

908
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: How you get the why not? Why not? What else

909
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: are you doing besides like talking to people.

910
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: If Tom Hanks can do it on an island, we can.

911
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: So uh Suri and Rick Devn's meet up and he

912
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: tells her that Jenna's throwing her name around already, which

913
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: is why you don't play that hard that fact which

914
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: she was Seren and Ozzy lock in, which I think

915
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: is super smart for him and her because she, you know,

916
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: she's not a big challenge person. So and then he

917
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: tells her that he has this extra vote and this

918
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: is you know, this is where the backstory that you

919
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: don't know is that he always gets screwed like he

920
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: always he always has an idol, he's always winning challenges,

921
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: and people just backs down him because he's too much

922
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: of a threat and he's so likable that they know

923
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: that if it goes to a jury, he's probably gonna

924
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: win the million dollars, you know, because that's at the end.

925
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: You have to bring two sometimes three people with you

926
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: to the end, and then it's the people that you've

927
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: kicked out during the individual who vote which one of

928
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: you gets the million dollars. So you want to you

929
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: want to like basically you want to get up there

930
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: and kick people out, like vote against people, but let

931
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: them know that you're hat yes, because if you are

932
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: just like two manipulated, two mean to people, they won't

933
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: ever give you the million dollars. They'll hold that grudge.

934
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: But then there's this other thing where sometimes they just

935
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: turn around, they're like, you know what, you screwed me over,

936
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: but well played. You know, like, if you're upfront about it,

937
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: we pinky swore. See. This is the aspect of traders

938
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: I think was missing, which is the jury factor. Like you,

939
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: because the traders, you could just be the biggest scumbag

940
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: ever because you're rewarding for it. There's no incentive to

941
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: be somewhat nice to people. Yeah, that's what I like

942
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: about survivor is like you can't just lie cheap steal.

943
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: You have to like actually be kind of.

944
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: Because you have the people, yeah, exactesting.

945
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: So you have to strategize enough or be friendly enough

946
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: so that you're not just yeah, okay.

947
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: That's an important aspect. That's an importantsage, dude, It's huge

948
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: all right.

949
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: Over at they're having this fashion show which is hysterical

950
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: and gets Kolby to come around on Rizzo, and Rizzo

951
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: cries calls him like a father figure, really sweet moment.

952
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: I love you.

953
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: It was a sweet moment until he looked at him

954
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: and said, my dad's forty seven, and I wanted to

955
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: throw my remote through the TV, Like are you kids

956
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: younger than me?

957
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh?

958
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: God, crazy crazy.

959
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Over at Colo, you got Jonathan and Mike doing yoga

960
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: on the beach. Jonathan and uh coach uh form an alliance. Uh,

961
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: We've got there's so many people talking to so many

962
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: other people.

963
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: That don't so many things I don't understand.

964
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: Eventually, we don't need to cover all of this because

965
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: it will become So let's just get right to the challenge.

966
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: This is basically this is the centerpiece of every episode

967
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: is you have this challenge, and this is where you

968
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: get to see you know, the rubber meet the road

969
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: of their actual abilities and his teamwork super fun and

970
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: this is where they can win fishing gear. So they

971
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: got to jump over a ramp, go through the mud man.

972
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: Kyle has this leg moment which you could see him

973
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: push himself so hard. I mean they are beasts. Those

974
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: guys like throwing themselves up the ramp.

975
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: Slams on that ramp too, I mean like slams on

976
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: al and I both like us. Yeah, it was one

977
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: of those things where but they're doing it on purpose

978
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: where they're like, the first thing you gotta do is

979
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: go through a ton of mud, so everything else you

980
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: do is slippery. Yeah, and it's like they're doing that

981
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: on purpose obviously, like you we're gonna go.

982
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: Oh but again to get those great opening credit shots

983
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: because now they got them like crawling, Yeah, looking, it's

984
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: going to be amazing.

985
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: I felt that guy.

986
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: Anybody who's done anything to an ankle or to an

987
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: achilles it is.

988
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how he he wasn't showing his pain

989
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: like he was just because he didn't want to let

990
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: it stop him.

991
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: Of course, and they would have kicked and they would

992
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: have kicked him out.

993
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: I know, you think about it. He actually did snap

994
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: his achilles tendon. Yeah, so that had to I mean

995
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: I thought that he twisted his ankle basically till he

996
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: was broken or something mean too, but he I think

997
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: snapping your tendon is way worse, and probably so the

998
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: fact that he plays it off because he doesn't want

999
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: to stop the game, like dude, that guy's champ.

1000
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: And those are injuries that end careers in sports, and

1001
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: I mean that's they're huge. Yeah, they're huge, and he

1002
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: did he had surgery. I guess that same week they

1003
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: had to rebuild everything.

1004
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: Yikes.

1005
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a guy I can think it was

1006
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: last season bit by a snake and they had to

1007
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: pull him because it was a genuinely poisonous snake.

1008
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: Oh God, they can't just give him a snake bite

1009
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: and let him go now.

1010
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: They were like, we it's too much of a risk.

1011
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: We've got to pull you from the game because we

1012
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: have to monitor you for like twenty four hours. I know.

1013
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: It's the worst people get pulled for this kind of thing.

1014
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: All right. So this is where Syria was holding up

1015
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: her tribe with the monkey fist throwing such a bummer.

1016
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: But it's also this is where where certain things like

1017
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: these challenges are Again this is the first one I've seen,

1018
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: but very clever, because what would appear to be the

1019
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: easiest part of the challenge is actually arguably one of

1020
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 3: the most difficult parts of the chest.

1021
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: You've got to throw this little thing through this thing.

1022
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: Hey, it might not be as physically demanding as the

1023
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: other stuff you've got to do, but you got.

1024
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: To be real good to do stuff like this, And

1025
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: it's all on you.

1026
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: Yes, you don't want to volunteer for this position, to

1027
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: be honest, unless you like know that your this is

1028
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: your skill set, you know. So it's a real problem

1029
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: that sere volunteered and that they let her. Yeah, and

1030
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that that didn't come up more like in

1031
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: tribal like they you know, yeah, yeah they yeah. I

1032
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: think people just didn't like Jenna people.

1033
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: I don't think so she plays. There was a lot

1034
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: of good reason to vote out Sirie right here. It

1035
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: was one hundred per hundred percent. But it's also it's

1036
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: one of those things everybody, anybody who doesn't know football

1037
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: thinks being a kicker on the football teams, like it's

1038
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 3: so easy.

1039
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: All you have to do is kick the ball.

1040
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Everything's on you, everything's on you.

1041
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: Yeah you got Yeah, you might only have one thing

1042
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: to do, but it's an exceptionally difficult thing to do.

1043
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: And it's all on you.

1044
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: And so it's that moment where it was like, but

1045
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: here's the thing. Had Jenna been nicer about it, she

1046
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: wasn't wrong, No with It's like, hey.

1047
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: Sarri, I honestly thought once after this challenge, I thought

1048
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: Syria was gone.

1049
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: Me too, and maybe should have been.

1050
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I could not, But I think I think Jennais

1051
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: was too much of.

1052
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: A agreed She's unlikable.

1053
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: She she came on way too strong, and they were like,

1054
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I want this personality around us, right.

1055
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's that moment when Emily throws out Ozzy,

1056
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: which was like, I thought, oh my god, but that

1057
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: would be playing too hard too early, because then you

1058
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: lose the benefit of your tribe in challenges because Ozzie

1059
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: is such an acid. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, but

1060
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: it already shows that Ozzy is going to have the

1061
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: biggest target on his back once again for this entire

1062
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: He needs every advantage he can get because he he's

1063
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: just too much. He's too good at this game. He's

1064
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: it's like he was made for Survivor in a lab.

1065
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: You know. I think he grew up in Mexico at

1066
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: like on the beach, you know, like I think he

1067
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: grew up in a situation where he was swimming and

1068
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: fishing every day as a kid, and so that this

1069
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: just feels like home for him. It's crazy.

1070
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: Man.

1071
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: After the challenge, Christian gives this little pep talk, his

1072
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: little football like speech, and then that just becomes this

1073
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: is the they know they have to go to tribal,

1074
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: so this is what happens. Then it's just a scramble.

1075
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: And this is why you have to have already hopefully

1076
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: solidified your life, right because this is where everything changes.

1077
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: These hours between finding out you lost the challenge and

1078
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: then that night going to tribal, and this is where

1079
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: the show gets insane. Like you'll have episodes where this

1080
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: will be like forty five minutes of the episode because

1081
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: people are like, wait, you said you were going to

1082
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: do this, and I said I'm gonna do that, and

1083
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: then last minute and then they get to tribal and

1084
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: they change at tribal with looks to each other. Dude,

1085
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: it's so dramatic because this this These are all good players.

1086
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: So you notice when they get to tribal they just

1087
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: speak in general aphorisms. Do you notice that they never

1088
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: say any So what what amateur players of Survivor do

1089
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: is they get to tribal and they say, well, well

1090
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: we're going to vote sie and they just say their

1091
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: strategy and and then it always backfires, and like so

1092
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: you just keep your mouth shut, do not reveal anything.

1093
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: And that's what Jeff's job is to try and get

1094
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: them to reveal something. It's leading questions of like how

1095
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: was your day after that challenge? Weren't you guys thinking serie.

1096
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: That you put yourself on the chopping block there.

1097
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: So his goal is to try and bring out the

1098
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: conflicts and to have them reveal their plans of what

1099
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: they're voting for. And really, what you want to do

1100
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: is go into trible and not change your mind, right, Like,

1101
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: the worst thing that can happen is to be surprised

1102
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: at tribal. So you set your plan, you set your alliances,

1103
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: you look each other in the eyes, you shake hands,

1104
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: spinky square, whatever you need to do, and then you

1105
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: get to tribal and you just keep your mouth shut

1106
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: or you open your mouth and say nothing. You just

1107
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: generic speak, and yeah, these guys are all so good

1108
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: at that. You see him play it out like nobody

1109
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: makes a mistake. But you watch earlier seasons, dude, or

1110
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: seasons with Nubes on it, and they're just like they're

1111
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: like I was feeling this way and now I'm not sure.

1112
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: Everybody just turned to them and pounced like they're just

1113
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: like all right, you're out of here, or somebody will

1114
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: say something you know, offensive, or it's it's like, so

1115
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: these guys are all pros. They're not making any of

1116
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: those mistakes, which makes for kind of a boring tribal.

1117
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. The best it'll get better, Oh dude,

1118
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: there's the best tribals are when you have like immunity reveals,

1119
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: or when people are like getting up and whispering to

1120
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: each other, Like they'll get up and start whispering, and

1121
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: then they'll other people realize those two are whispering, so

1122
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: then they got a whisper to their teammates. And then

1123
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: people are lying to your face like no, no, no, I'm

1124
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: fake whispering. It's okay, and you're like it's over. It's yeah.

1125
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: So it can be crazy, but this is a very

1126
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: tame trible. I was surprised, I'll be honest.

1127
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: I wanted her to go, but I was surprised.

1128
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: I did not think they were going to vote for Ozzy.

1129
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: But I did think that there was a chance that

1130
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: it was going to be a you know, Surrie was

1131
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: gonna go up.

1132
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, judging by just what we saw,

1133
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 3: Serrie was the logical choice. I flat out She's the

1134
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: logical choice we had. We lost the challenge essentially, or

1135
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: at least you took us out of the possibility of

1136
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: winning right legitimately, so you know, but again, had Jenna

1137
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: not come so hard so fast.

1138
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: There's something slightly poetic about the first first season player

1139
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: being the first one.

1140
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: I just want to go.

1141
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, her exit speech is one of my favorite things

1142
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 3: in the world.

1143
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: By the way, I can't remember what she was.

1144
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: She's just like, I'm just really happy to be here.

1145
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: It was so sweet and that, you know, it just

1146
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: shows men a lot to me, and I hope they

1147
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: lose every single challenge, and it was just like, oh shit, Yeah.

1148
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about her. I never actually watched

1149
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: the first season, so I don't remember.

1150
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: I remember naked Guy. I'll always remember naked Guy. That's it.

1151
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: So Jenna is voted out tribal she I think. I'm

1152
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: happy about that, but I don't know if it was

1153
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: the right choice. I agree, like I think if you're

1154
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: just thinking strategy, because Sarri is going to be a

1155
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: monster player like she has done so well, so you

1156
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: do kind of want to get out a big player

1157
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: or early, especially a big player who's not good in challenges,

1158
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: right because that person is going to be better in

1159
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: the munich in the individual game, and you want to

1160
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: keep somebody like Ozzie or good at challenges now, and

1161
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: Jenna was good at challenges, like she was physically keeping

1162
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: it up and do you know so.

1163
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: But not a single person except Jenna voted for her,

1164
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: not a single one.

1165
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: I know. I think it's either be one or two.

1166
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: I know. And yeah, considering the Sury screwed up as

1167
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: much as she did, that's pretty it shows that she's

1168
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: really unlike, yeah, all right, so at Vatu you get

1169
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: this Kyle's ankle situation. Uh, and yeah, and then unbelievably,

1170
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: Genevieve finds an idol or a wrap of something wrapped up.

1171
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, I don't know

1172
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: what any of this means.

1173
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you kind of don't. The reality there are

1174
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: there's usually hidden stuff. Sometimes it's an idol, like in

1175
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: this case it is the special Boomerang idol. But other

1176
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: times you'd just be like, uh. Other times it'll be

1177
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: like a what's called a beware advantage, which is something

1178
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: you find that says you can take this, but it

1179
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: also can backfire on you. It'll be like you get

1180
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: to vote for the next you know, you get an

1181
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: extra vote, but if you don't use it, you get

1182
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: a two negative, you know, two rounds. But in this case,

1183
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: it is just this boomerang idol that you give to somebody.

1184
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: This was convoluted.

1185
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you give to somebody on another tribe.

1186
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: On another tribe, and either you're giving it to somebody

1187
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: you want to eventually build an alliance with, or somebody

1188
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: you want to get out, because because if they're getting

1189
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 3: voted out while still holding the idol, so they don't

1190
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: use it, Yes, it comes back to you and you

1191
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 3: can do it again.

1192
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: Yes, And so she makes the best choice she could,

1193
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: which is to give it to Aussie because that's actually

1194
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: happened to him. He has been voted out with an

1195
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: idol in his pocket, and you know that he is

1196
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: probably a target because you know he's always a target.

1197
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's really smart. I mean, then why

1198
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't he use them?

1199
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: Why would he if he's always a target, he knows

1200
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: he's constantly getting screwed.

1201
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: Why is he getting kicked out with idols in his pocket.

1202
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm confused by this. Is if he uses the idol,

1203
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: does it come back to her too? No?

1204
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: I think then it's dead. I think if he's kicked

1205
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: out with it in his pocket, it comes back to.

1206
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: Her, and if he uses it, he.

1207
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: But he's also a very powerful player, so it's a

1208
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: smart move because if he if he doesn't use it

1209
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: and up until they merge, she could form an alliance

1210
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: with him. Of course, she could be like, hey, I'm

1211
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: the one gauge. So even if he does play it,

1212
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: he's going to owe her, you know, Like, let's say

1213
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: he plays it before they merge, and then they merge.

1214
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: She said, you're going to be able to say to him, like, dude,

1215
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: I gave this out, gave these people here, I chose

1216
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: you to support your game. That's a I think it's

1217
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: a good move, man. It's like you want to pick

1218
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: a power player.

1219
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: Basically, she decided it was a fine day for a

1220
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: white wedding and ended up with a Billie idol.

1221
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: So let's never forget that, my friends, because it's important.

1222
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: All right, And it's always interesting to see who they

1223
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: tell and who they don't when they find an idol, right,

1224
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: because you really don't want everybody on your tribe to

1225
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: know you have an idol. It's like it's one of

1226
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: those things but you usually want to tell at least

1227
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: one person, but then of course that person has the

1228
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: power to betray you by telling other people. Now here's

1229
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: my question.

1230
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: If what's the downside of telling everybody on your tribe, like, hey, everybody,

1231
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: I just want.

1232
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: You to know I found an idol.

1233
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: Then they might force you to play it, like they

1234
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: might then vote for you just to get rid of it.

1235
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: Because every time an idol gets used, it comes back

1236
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,479
Speaker 1: into the game in some form.

1237
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: Okay, so they think, very I make you use yours

1238
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: and eventually I might I'll come back.

1239
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: Or you're just don't want somebody to have an idol

1240
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: knowing you know, like yeah, so you'll blindside them. If

1241
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: you know somebody is an idol. The rest of the

1242
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: rest of the tribe will probably just blindside you for

1243
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: the sake of flushing the idol, or they'll just make

1244
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: you play it. They'll be like, we're voting for you,

1245
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: so now you have to play it because they don't

1246
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: want you to have the advantage over them. No, it's tricky, man,

1247
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: it's tricky at all. It's so then we have this

1248
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: like journey where boats show up and again I say

1249
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 1: never or volteer to go on a journey, but Mike

1250
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: goes on the journey, Savannah goes for Cela, and Kolby goes, Now,

1251
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: Kobe did it.

1252
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: If what you're saying is true, then Kobe did it

1253
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: the right way then by going kind of essentially saying,

1254
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: I I'm not happy about this, I don't want to go,

1255
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 3: but if everybody wants me to go, I'll go.

1256
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: Yes, And Savannah it was random, I believe right, that

1257
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: was just a numbers game they did, like whoever picked

1258
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: closest to sixteen?

1259
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

1260
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: And then Mike was like, I never got to go

1261
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: on a single one when I was on. Let me,

1262
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 3: let me do it take a journey.

1263
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: You surprised he did that, man, because yeah, you get

1264
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: into some sticky situations on this journey and as it

1265
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: showed it happened, Yeah, exactly.

1266
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1267
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: And so Mike, Mike goes and they tell him that

1268
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: Coach robbed the key from Ozzy, which snaked it from

1269
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: as ends up you know, does at first does not

1270
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: seem like that big of information, but it kind of

1271
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: plays into the rest of the episode.

1272
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 3: Does and kisses Ozzy off something fierce because he's honorable,

1273
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 3: like a coach coach off.

1274
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: Why are you because now and writers tell me you're

1275
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: not so honorable.

1276
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they they draw rocks and Mike goes home immediately,

1277
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: which is such a pointless journey. Yeah, what was the

1278
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: point of the boat ride? You know? Here's the thing.

1279
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: It just it can see suspicion in your tribe. Like

1280
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna go home and say I came home empty handed,

1281
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: and like there's a big chance that people won't believe.

1282
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, in this case, I think that they actually

1283
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: believe him. I don't think I don't anybody.

1284
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm gone for thirty seconds r.

1285
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: But also he comes back and he gives that information

1286
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: about the coach, and that becomes more important to everybody

1287
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: than the fact that he came home empty handed. But

1288
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: he you know, a lot of people lie, they get

1289
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: an advantage. They come back from a journey and they're like,

1290
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: there was nothing, we just to our beach. So when

1291
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: Mike comes back, he's lucky that they actually believe him

1292
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: because there's hurting chocolate, there's nothing there. It's just me

1293
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: by myself, all right. And so then we have a

1294
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: Savannah and Kolby doing the stacking gig jenga like game

1295
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: and does going high when she's shorter.

1296
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: Terrible thing to do, man, really, yeah, with you got

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00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 3: you gotta make it wide and stable. I mean at

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00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: that point you're just you see how much his hand

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00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: was shaken too.

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Speaker 1: I mean his hands are like, oh my god.

1301
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta. You know,

1302
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: it's a foolish man who beats his house upon the sand.

1303
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta build that base.

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00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: So he loses his vote, and now it seems like

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00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: she's just gonna keep her vote, right, But then she

1306
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: gets to the boat and they give her a secret

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00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: block of.

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00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: Vote, which which you said tends to happen. Yeah, you

1309
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: get some kind of thing something.

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: So Mike returns tells Coach the gossip, and Coach takes

1311
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: it hard, which you got the allowsand yard stereo, I know,

1312
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: dead behind me. And then he's like, oh right, he

1313
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: wants to play hard. He's gonna turn on Ozzie. So

1314
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: all their apologies and like last yes, which you know,

1315
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Ozzie was like just telling the truth, Like it's not

1316
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: like he went back and said Coach is a snake.

1317
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: He went back and said Coach stole it from me,

1318
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: after which she described exaccurately.

1319
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: So coach forty five minutes in my was killing me.

1320
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: I finally knocked it off and east all of them.

1321
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally.

1322
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: That's what makes sikes all right. On Vatu, you've got

1323
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: Q and Coleby both down votes, so they're in a

1324
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: tough spot.

1325
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1326
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: On Cela, Savannah comes back and doesn't tell everyone that

1327
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: she has a block of vote and buys it. Doesn't

1328
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: believe her, No one buys it, doesn't believe her, so instantly,

1329
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

1330
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 2: Instantly, So it's just.

1331
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't turn on Mike, which I'm curious

1332
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: if that's going to happen because he came back it

1333
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: up and see I'm.

1334
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: Wondering if it's one of those things though where he

1335
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: was gone for five years or yeah, he's gone for

1336
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: five or seven a likability like Mike, and he came

1337
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: a good piece of gossip, yeah exactly.

1338
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1339
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: Whereas Savannah, you know, she's a player, she just wants,

1340
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: she wants. She's they're like suspicious of her.

1341
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, now does that does anybody? I mean there

1342
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: are episodes where people are like, Okay, I don't believe you.

1343
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: What did you get?

1344
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, okay. Often they'll just call them out

1345
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: and then that person can decide like I'll tell you

1346
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: the truth okay, or please don't tell so and so

1347
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, or they make up a lie and they

1348
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: just insist on it. But lying in this game usually

1349
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: doesn't work very long. Like you usually want to confide

1350
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: in somebody, at least one more person, Yeah, because it

1351
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: because just lying to is. The more people you lie to,

1352
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: the harder this game gets, I find. But you know,

1353
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm the type of person who just

1354
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: hates lying.

1355
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: Hey, it's also a good good rule of thumb for life.

1356
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: More you lie to, the harder it gets.

1357
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Jeff shows up with the medical to

1358
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: check Kyle's achilles heel. This was just such a bummer.

1359
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: It also shows some pretty phenomenal advances in medical technology

1360
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: when the guy is doing it ultra.

1361
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: On his phone. What the heck, dud dude?

1362
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 3: Insane? Yea insane? Cool me too, I thought the same thing.

1363
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: I'm like Wars or Star Trek.

1364
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: We're literally in a Star Trek seeing right now your tricorder? Yeah, exactly,

1365
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: I can't scan your bone and your liked, Oh tell me, Jim,

1366
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to see if he snapped us a killing.

1367
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: So c.

1368
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in the middle of the jungle and we're like.

1369
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you need a giant piece of equipment and

1370
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 3: I'll do it on my phone with a little thing crazy.

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01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well, this was a lot of coverage. Man,

1372
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: this is a long episode.

1373
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: It was, and I don't mean to make it any longer.

1374
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: But as you do know, I am an expert on

1375
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: all things.

1376
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: Sure.

1377
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: I was first an expert on the history of dance.

1378
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: I then became an.

1379
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: Expert on the history of the most famous traders that

1380
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: I've ever walked the planet. But did you know that

1381
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: there's also some serious survivors that have walked the planets

1382
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: with some incredible stories, and I'm calling them all I

1383
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: do by heart encyclopedic or for people in my generation

1384
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: card catalogic.

1385
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

1386
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: I liked walk through the dew decimal system of my

1387
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: mind in a section that I'm calling Will's history of

1388
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 3: famous survivors from stuff that happened in history in the

1389
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: past past.

1390
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1391
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 3: So you know that I work on it perfectly. I'm

1392
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: going to start with a very interesting story. This is

1393
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 3: the story of somebody named Ada Blackjack from nineteen twenty one.

1394
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh what a name, great name, Blackjack.

1395
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: She's also known as the Forgotten Female Castaway. She was

1396
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: stranded on an icy expanse of Wrangele Island in the

1397
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: Arctic after a doom expedition for.

1398
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: Nearly two years.

1399
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: She relied on her resourcefulness and determination, hunting and foraging

1400
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: to stay alive as the only survivor despite overwhelming ods

1401
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 3: and isolation. Ada's quiet strength helped her endure until rescue arrived.

1402
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: Her remarkable stories attribute to perseverance in the harshest conditions.

1403
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: Wait with black What year is nineteen twenty one? In

1404
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: the Arctic? A woman by herself of black two?

1405
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: I wonder what she had with her like as far

1406
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: as like was she you have shipwrecked supplies like.

1407
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: I can't tell you. But you should go study it yourself,

1408
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: is what I would say about you.

1409
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: I want you to. I can't believe that hasn't been

1410
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: made into a movie. I'm sure it will be absolutely

1411
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: a to Blackjack, the Forgotten Female Castaway. Yeah wow, all right,

1412
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: you've been listening to pod meets Twirled. The torches may

1413
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: be snuffed, but our questionable analysis burns on We'll see

1414
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: you at the next tribal

1415
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 3: M