Speaker 1: Like game on the world. You played to win the
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Speaker 1: and Eric Allen back here for the Official Jets Podcast
Speaker 1: game preview Jets francoes this Sunday a road trip. Wow,
Speaker 1: what a shocker the Jets after finishing up with two
Speaker 1: game homestand now two weeks on the road. But e A,
Speaker 1: let me just touch on this last game because I
Speaker 1: thought this was the most exciting game the Jets have
Speaker 1: played all season. Back and forth the nip and tuck
Speaker 1: affair and the Jets come out in a shootout when
Speaker 1: most expected it would be a close game. While we
Speaker 1: entertaining affair. The Jets absorbed a few punches early, but
Speaker 1: they were never on the ropes. But behind fourteen nothing
Speaker 1: less in five minutes in the game, they rebound it
Speaker 1: took a halftime lead. Kansas City very successful with their
Speaker 1: big plays that kept them in the ballgame. Conversely, the
Speaker 1: Jets control time of possession forty nine Russia attempts, Jermaine Curse,
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson continued to go off. Josh McCown not only
Speaker 1: continuing his accurate ways at the quarterback position throwing a football.
Speaker 1: But again he gets a couple of rushtots touchdowns now
Speaker 1: he's got five on a year or so. You look
Speaker 1: at McCown, he's got twenty three touchdowns at all. He's
Speaker 1: given the Jets great quarterback play. And like you mentioned
Speaker 1: here at the top, the Jets just completed a run
Speaker 1: greens of seven of ten at home so far this year,
Speaker 1: the Jets four and three at MetLife Stadium. Conversely, when
Speaker 1: you look ahead of Denver, the Jets just one and
Speaker 1: four on the road. This is gonna be a big
Speaker 1: test to see where they're at as the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: the NFL season begins, and going off of that is
Speaker 1: three out of the next four to close out the
Speaker 1: season for the Jets, the games are on the road,
Speaker 1: so one and one and four on the road so far. Denver,
Speaker 1: even though their record is not a very good record,
Speaker 1: to say the least, it's a poor record. They're having
Speaker 1: a bad season. Bottom line. You lose eight games in
Speaker 1: a row after a three and one start, it is
Speaker 1: a bad year in Denver and nobody's happy about that.
Speaker 1: And that is something they're not accustomed to because you've
Speaker 1: got to go back to nine the last time Lebroncos
Speaker 1: had laid an eight spot like this. With that being said,
Speaker 1: it's no easy place to play at Sports Authority Field
Speaker 1: that mile high because of the altitude. And Matt Forte
Speaker 1: said that down there in the training room they have
Speaker 1: a treadmill that you can go to the altitude of
Speaker 1: double Denver and you can wear one of the training masks.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see, especially I'd like to
Speaker 1: improve my are you do you own a training mask? No?
Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, well, man, it's one of those ones.
Speaker 1: Looked like, who's the guy from Batman? Bain Bain? You
Speaker 1: really adopted the duck. I was born in it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: back to football, sure, yeah, you're playing in that dry air,
Speaker 1: the thin air, the high altitude. The Broncos actually started
Speaker 1: the year at home three and oh, but they've lost
Speaker 1: their last three home games. I'm curious to see how
Speaker 1: the young players on this Jets team that have never
Speaker 1: been out to Denver, and that's I would assume an
Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the team. I'm curious to see how
Speaker 1: they prepare, what they take, who they speak to try
Speaker 1: to get ready because Obviously it's a different altitude, but
Speaker 1: it's a different field when you're huffing and puffing and
Speaker 1: your lungs aren't working as well. But taking something from
Speaker 1: last week and moving this week is the fast start
Speaker 1: of the offense. And we're going to dive into this
Speaker 1: further with Chad Pennington when we bring him in shortly.
Speaker 1: But how can a recipe of a fast start translates
Speaker 1: to access on the road for this Jets team. Well,
Speaker 1: we're not only going to talk to Jef Pennington first
Speaker 1: this week, we also have Eric d. Lalla from dever
Speaker 1: Broncos dot com. He's associate editor of Broncos dot Com.
Speaker 1: But a fast start I didn't even really can help
Speaker 1: this week because this is a Broncos team that has
Speaker 1: not found itself offensively. Bottom line, They've used three different
Speaker 1: quarterbacks this year, Trevor Simeon, brock Osweiler, Pexton Lynch. Of
Speaker 1: course Simeon will start against the Jets. You want to
Speaker 1: put this team in a hole because right now a
Speaker 1: lot of bad things are happening to the Broncos. Last
Speaker 1: week they had it handed to them, not so much
Speaker 1: in the trenches, but on the school board. Thirty five nine.
Speaker 1: Simeon had three interceptions. Maybe the Jets have an opportunity
Speaker 1: for a couple of takeaways defensively that would go a
Speaker 1: long way towards victory. But you want to make this
Speaker 1: team one handed, and if you do get an early lead,
Speaker 1: that's gonna make a fan base who, frankly, is very
Speaker 1: upset with the product out there. They're gonna be very
Speaker 1: upset with the team if they fall behind. All right,
Speaker 1: Green's let's bring in our quarterback Chef Pennington, who was
Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium for the Green and Whites thirty eight
Speaker 1: victory over the Kansas City Chiefs. What impressed you most offensively? Well,
Speaker 1: I think uh E. A. First of all, uh, I
Speaker 1: guess we're not great prognosticators, because I think both of
Speaker 1: us felt like this would be a seventeen. It was
Speaker 1: far from it. I think what impressed me the most
Speaker 1: was the ability of the offense to answer the fourteen
Speaker 1: to zero fail when the Jets fell behind so quickly.
Speaker 1: That was huge, and that's part of playing complimentary football.
Speaker 1: You see the defense struggling and giving that big plays,
Speaker 1: and the offense put two back to back drives together
Speaker 1: to even the score of fourteen. To fourteen, So I
Speaker 1: thought that was probably the biggest part of the game.
Speaker 1: Even though it didn't determine the outcome, it certainly level
Speaker 1: the playing field and the Jets could then implement their
Speaker 1: game plan of still trying to run the football throughout
Speaker 1: the game because being down four team a zero uh
Speaker 1: and if that would have carried over into the second half,
Speaker 1: then you know your game plan of being able to
Speaker 1: run against a leaky Chiefs run defense would not have happened.
Speaker 1: The Jets are averaging over thirty five rush attempts in
Speaker 1: their five victories this season. So Chad, what specifically helps
Speaker 1: out this Jets offense when you look at a balanced attack,
Speaker 1: had a complimentary attack, and we saw it because Robby
Speaker 1: Anderson and Germaine Curse both went over a hundred yards
Speaker 1: for the second consecutive game. I think a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Number One, I feel like the line of scrimmage was
Speaker 1: controlled by the Jets offensive line and did a good
Speaker 1: job of eliminating most of the penetration throughout the day.
Speaker 1: And then the patient of Forte and Pale and fire
Speaker 1: was really good. There were times where they would just
Speaker 1: allow the hole to come open and it was a
Speaker 1: second or third cut behind the line of screamings, and
Speaker 1: then they would find a crease to get the father
Speaker 1: six yards north and south. Their patience was excellent. The
Speaker 1: second thing I would think that I thought was a
Speaker 1: crucial was the first and second down pumping success. When
Speaker 1: you go into a game wanting to run the football,
Speaker 1: when you do decide to pass it on personal second down,
Speaker 1: especially after a run play that may only give you
Speaker 1: two to three yards, you've got to have some success
Speaker 1: there so you don't stay in that third seven plus
Speaker 1: range on third down. And McCown and his ability to
Speaker 1: be efficient to make plays with his arm when asked
Speaker 1: on the early down really complimented the game plan of
Speaker 1: wanting to establish the running games. Defensively, the Jets were
Speaker 1: dashed by big players against the Chiefs, but that hasn't
Speaker 1: found a characteristic of this defense. And two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: what a Tidd Balls and Casey Rodgers have to do
Speaker 1: to make sure that isn't an issue over the last
Speaker 1: quarter of the season. Well, it certainly was a baptism
Speaker 1: through fire for our young safeties to get Safeties really
Speaker 1: were put into situations where they couldn't just roam the
Speaker 1: field and read the quarterback's eyes. They were having to
Speaker 1: cover the great skill guys of the Chiefs, including the
Speaker 1: tide end Kelsey, and I think although the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: been struggling, I think they proved on Sunday that they
Speaker 1: still have some weapons and that they can do a
Speaker 1: lot of really good things offensively, which they were able
Speaker 1: to do. So great learning experience, uh for the team,
Speaker 1: the young safeties in the in the back end, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to cover two phenomenal skill players and
Speaker 1: Kelsey and tarryk kill. So hopefully you get some of
Speaker 1: those things aroned out. You know, do a little bit
Speaker 1: better in your man the man covers, be better in
Speaker 1: your communication and your zone, and eliminate those big plays
Speaker 1: down the field. Uh, and you know those to a minimum.
Speaker 1: When you look at this Jets team, obviously the narrative
Speaker 1: has been being able to finish or not being able
Speaker 1: to finish. How important is this win? Because the Jets
Speaker 1: were finally able to finish. They were down fourteen nothing
Speaker 1: like you said before, leading out the half, and then
Speaker 1: the entire second half was a nip and tuck affairs.
Speaker 1: So moving forward for the last four games of the season,
Speaker 1: how important is finally getting over that hump, especially because
Speaker 1: the Jets are going on the road for back to
Speaker 1: back weeks. Well, I think the win was important for
Speaker 1: a number of reasons. Number one, I think it was
Speaker 1: important because it was one of the few times here
Speaker 1: where um, the Jets were pounced on early and they
Speaker 1: answered the bail. Uh. And they changed their own fortune.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that the other team changed did or did
Speaker 1: something to change it. They changed their own fortune. And
Speaker 1: the secondly, um, you know, I think it's it's great
Speaker 1: that this team is still fighting with the passion and
Speaker 1: enthusiasm and energy and and they and they're there's continuing
Speaker 1: to get better. And so for coaching staff and the organization,
Speaker 1: you can continue your evaluation process and really make strides
Speaker 1: in how you can become better for the future. Robbie
Speaker 1: Anderson and Jermaine Curse. A lot has been talked about
Speaker 1: regarding that duel, an emerging duel back to back a
Speaker 1: hundred yard receiving games for the pair. Um, A lot
Speaker 1: of folks Chad say, hey, Robbie Anderson and Ceiling is
Speaker 1: a number two receiver. Uh, maybe Jermaine Curses Ceiling is
Speaker 1: a is a two or three do you look at
Speaker 1: it in terms of numbers when people look at receivers,
Speaker 1: Because right now I see Robbie Anderson and he's on
Speaker 1: pace for eleven yards and he's getting into that zone.
Speaker 1: And Jermaine Curses having a career year here. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, I see a better quarterback than I nderstands
Speaker 1: how to get these two guys in the ball, and
Speaker 1: he understands what they do well. Uh. And so I
Speaker 1: think we've got to give Josh a lot of credit
Speaker 1: in getting these guys involved, which is allowed the staff
Speaker 1: Horn Curse and Anderson can do. So that's number one.
Speaker 1: I think Also, bus of these guys are playing uh
Speaker 1: to their skill set. They're they're doing things that they're
Speaker 1: being asked to do and doing them well. Uh. Coach
Speaker 1: Morten's putting in their positions to make play, not asking
Speaker 1: anythings that they don't do well. I've really been surprised,
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised with with Robbie Anderson's ability to catch the
Speaker 1: ball in traffic. Typically, when you have a speed guy
Speaker 1: that doesn't have the size like Robbie does not, uh,
Speaker 1: typically you have to see a lot of separation for
Speaker 1: these types of guys to make play. But this guy
Speaker 1: makes place in traffic and and really comes up with
Speaker 1: a lot of fifty fifty balls, has some really good
Speaker 1: ball skills, does some things it's very difficult to do.
Speaker 1: And then I think Curse really came into his own
Speaker 1: this game, making some big plays to run after the catch,
Speaker 1: making catches in traffic using his body. So these are
Speaker 1: two guys you can certainly uh build with and don't
Speaker 1: forget a Noon while he's able to come back hopefully
Speaker 1: next year helping You've got three really good guys there
Speaker 1: that you feel very comfortable and helping your team wins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this group. As you said, Robbie Anderson,
Speaker 1: continues to develop. Jermaine Curses added a lot of grit
Speaker 1: to that unit. Noon while possibly coming back. Chad Hanson
Speaker 1: had a couple of key third dome conversions. Okay, Juts Broncos.
Speaker 1: How does this team that is four and three at
Speaker 1: My Life Stadium take their show on the road and
Speaker 1: play well away from home for sixty minutes? What's going
Speaker 1: to be the key? Well, we talked about this on
Speaker 1: Facebook lam On on Sunday, Eric and the number one
Speaker 1: thing on the road is being able to get off
Speaker 1: to a good art and sometimes a good start on
Speaker 1: the road doesn't necessarily mean a lot of points, but
Speaker 1: it does mean moving the football on offense, establishing a rhythm,
Speaker 1: h getting off the field on third down on defense,
Speaker 1: and really coming into your own early in the game.
Speaker 1: And remember against Tampa Bay, it was just a struggle
Speaker 1: to do anything offensively until the very end. And that's
Speaker 1: just that just makes it really hard on the road.
Speaker 1: So getting off to a good start is number one,
Speaker 1: and then number two, it's the same mindset that we
Speaker 1: felt like they said have against Kansas City because we
Speaker 1: felt like Kansas City was struggling. Obviously Denver is struggling
Speaker 1: even more. You cannot give the home team, especially a
Speaker 1: struggling team, excitement and a spark to get them to
Speaker 1: think like, oh, we have a chance to win this game.
Speaker 1: And so the goal is to get off to a
Speaker 1: fast start, and even if you don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of points on the board, play smart, complimentary football. You
Speaker 1: haven't turned the ball over, you haven't given up a
Speaker 1: big special teams play. And now you're in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter in a situation where this Denver team says, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go again. We're gonna lose this in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, find a way to lose, and you will,
Speaker 1: how then to find a way to lose. And that's
Speaker 1: what will happen if you play your cards right. Well,
Speaker 1: how do you expect John Morten and this offense to
Speaker 1: attack this Denver defense that, to be frank is known
Speaker 1: for its secondary. Well, you know this defense is still scary.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jeff fans can expect this team to
Speaker 1: just go in and just stomp the Denver Broncos. It's
Speaker 1: not going to work that way. You have players on
Speaker 1: the defensive side with the Broncos that could just absolutely
Speaker 1: ruin a football game, and so you always have to
Speaker 1: be aware of that. You've got to make sure that
Speaker 1: you neutralize von Miller. You got to make sure that
Speaker 1: the two corners and to Leave and Harris don't make
Speaker 1: great plays on the football and and be able to
Speaker 1: change field position with the interceptions. And so you've got
Speaker 1: to be very careful with your decision making as a
Speaker 1: quarterback play calling wise, you don't want to put your
Speaker 1: tackles on the islands von Miller. Just think that's going
Speaker 1: to happen for four quarters, because it will absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I think the running game is going to prove to
Speaker 1: be a key in this game, and not necessarily from
Speaker 1: the guard inst that way, but also just from a
Speaker 1: way to be able to control the tipo of the
Speaker 1: game to create some physicality there in the sloop those
Speaker 1: guys down. That's really going to be a key. I
Speaker 1: think does McCown have to do anything special regarding von
Speaker 1: Miller because you mentioned him, you both mentioned him, and
Speaker 1: obviously that's up to John Morton. How he's going to
Speaker 1: attack him and give his tackles help and who's staying
Speaker 1: in from a tight end perspective and Chip in what
Speaker 1: running back is going going to provide that double? Uh?
Speaker 1: But you from a quarterbacks perspective, what do you have
Speaker 1: to know about Miller while you're looking down the field
Speaker 1: and facing two guys in the outside like to leave
Speaker 1: and Chris Harris, well, what I think Number one, you
Speaker 1: have to listen to her. What I mean by that is, uh,
Speaker 1: your footwork in the pocket is really critical. Number one.
Speaker 1: You can't stay back in the pocket. You start to
Speaker 1: get the nine ten eleven yards in your drop and
Speaker 1: bon Miller is gonna have a field day. Also, you
Speaker 1: can't get into three and four hitches in the pocket.
Speaker 1: Once you get to that third hits and you went
Speaker 1: through one, number one and number two and number three
Speaker 1: is not there, You're moving. You've got to move up
Speaker 1: in the pocket and get get out and neither use
Speaker 1: your feet to get some yards because he will completely
Speaker 1: ruin your day if you do not. So, if that
Speaker 1: means that you can't extend to play and make a
Speaker 1: big play, and you wish that you could, you're gonna
Speaker 1: play to the other side of the risk of trying
Speaker 1: to extend to play and make a big play is
Speaker 1: much greater than the that reward because you know the
Speaker 1: von Miller's on the other side. Chead. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: for this game, are you? Because something throughout the year
Speaker 1: that you've talked about here on the Juts Official podcast
Speaker 1: is that you like watching the Jets. They play hard,
Speaker 1: they play good football. Um, they've been in every ball
Speaker 1: game five and seven. They easily could be seven or
Speaker 1: five or eight and four. But when you look at
Speaker 1: this one and four road record and you look at
Speaker 1: the Broncos is a wounded animal team was lost eight
Speaker 1: in a row. Are you excited to see what happens
Speaker 1: on Sunday? As far as a test concern for the
Speaker 1: Jets is this the next step in their maturation? This
Speaker 1: is a building block game here. This is a game that, uh,
Speaker 1: this team can use as a building block forwards foundation
Speaker 1: being able to take that next step in the type
Speaker 1: of culture and attitude you want for your team, for
Speaker 1: your young players to learn from. This is a difficult
Speaker 1: game for a young player. You've come off of a
Speaker 1: big emotional win at home and now you're going on
Speaker 1: the road and playing a team that um down and
Speaker 1: out three and nine. You know, this is a game
Speaker 1: in college that normally you go to and you take
Speaker 1: care of. It's because you're better than in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. Do you want this to
Speaker 1: be a building block through a win not through a law?
Speaker 1: My final question for you today chap an Official Jets
Speaker 1: podcast game preview Jets Broncos Sunday at Sports Authority. Feel
Speaker 1: at Mile High is speaking of the altitude, how does
Speaker 1: it impact of players? I know I have talked to
Speaker 1: the bar Scott about it the other night on Inside
Speaker 1: the Jets says for each guy it's different. I might
Speaker 1: have a little bit more of an impact for the
Speaker 1: bigger guys. Offensive alignment and defense alignment. There's certainly an impact,
Speaker 1: uh you looking an impact for a quarterback, for say,
Speaker 1: But think it really depends on each theories. You know
Speaker 1: how much energy has exerted, whether it be a skill god,
Speaker 1: you know had to run three eighteen or comebacks in
Speaker 1: a row, or you know alignment that you know had
Speaker 1: to pull and get out in space and run around.
Speaker 1: And there can be an impact series the series based
Speaker 1: upon how much you inserted and what you're running levels
Speaker 1: were on that series, So they can certainly be something.
Speaker 1: But John Melody and his staff have done an excellent job.
Speaker 1: You talk to anybody that's a Jet player right now
Speaker 1: that came from another team, and they will just tell you,
Speaker 1: hands down, this is one of the best training staff
Speaker 1: in the league and they'll certainly have their players ready.
Speaker 1: A little love for j Mal, I love it all right, Chack,
Speaker 1: great catching off with you. Enjoy the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: You can talk you and we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: That alright, Korean's great point from CP there. I think
Speaker 1: this is a building block game for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: A lot of people will look at the Jets and
Speaker 1: say this is a gimme game because this is a
Speaker 1: Denver team that is in a bad way right now.
Speaker 1: But this is no gimme game, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting if the Jets can get another one here, go
Speaker 1: to six and seven, and then you have a chance
Speaker 1: to go to New Orleans, maybe reach five hundred. But
Speaker 1: first things first, you gotta beat the Broncos. For me,
Speaker 1: what Chad said that really stood out was you can't
Speaker 1: give a home team like the Denver Broncos, who are
Speaker 1: underwhelming from an expectations standpoint. You can't give the home
Speaker 1: fans something to be excited about. And in Week ten,
Speaker 1: that's what happened in Tampa Bay. The Jets didn't come
Speaker 1: out to a fast start, couldn't convert on third down,
Speaker 1: didn't move the chains, and then eventually lost that game.
Speaker 1: For this the Jets offense is really starting to get
Speaker 1: in the groove, and Josh McCown following Sunday's game said,
Speaker 1: for us, this is this was the expectation, this is
Speaker 1: how we expected to play earlier in the year. I
Speaker 1: talked about it. You know, we're gonna come together and
Speaker 1: hit our stride. It's gonna take a while because we're
Speaker 1: different and a new group, but I think this is
Speaker 1: what we what we expect to be and uh and so,
Speaker 1: like I said, we're scratching the surface. We can take
Speaker 1: it further though, So I'm really looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: how to take the show on the road. How do
Speaker 1: the Jets continue to ride this hot hand on offense?
Speaker 1: Convert on third downs, curse Robby Anderson and hopefully Austin
Speaker 1: Sifering Jenkins can get back in the mix this Sunday
Speaker 1: as well. Just with thirteen of twenty on third down
Speaker 1: against Kansas City, that is a sixty five percent clip.
Speaker 1: McCown was really comfortable in that pocket. This is a
Speaker 1: different animal defensively, this is a better outfit than the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs do have some good players on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, but when you're facing von Miller
Speaker 1: and these two corners, it's a different deal altogether. Um.
Speaker 1: Against Denver, you have to play clean because that's a
Speaker 1: way they can get the crowd into the game. You
Speaker 1: turn the football over and sometimes you're gonna want to
Speaker 1: pump Sunday. Bottom line, if it's not there, don't try
Speaker 1: to force a play. When you force the action, especially
Speaker 1: on the road, bad things can happen. UM. Conversely, defensively.
Speaker 1: This is a bounce back game for the Jets because frankly,
Speaker 1: they didn't play off to the standards. Jamal Adams said
Speaker 1: after the game, we didn't do our jobs. Hats off
Speaker 1: to the offense. We have to play better. Gave up
Speaker 1: a lot of big plays against Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: Alex Smith and company. But this Denver offense struggling to
Speaker 1: find itself. Trevor Simeon, He's got some weapons, the Marius Thomas,
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, Anderson in the backfield, but it's just not
Speaker 1: clicking right now. This Broncos defense. You talked about a
Speaker 1: pair of corners just for reference, talking about a keep
Speaker 1: to leaving Chris Harris, a pair of Kansas Jayhawks. They're
Speaker 1: one of the top duos, if not the best duo
Speaker 1: in the league. To leave miss last game due to
Speaker 1: a suspension after an altercation with Raiders receiver minch It
Speaker 1: wasn't an altercation, dude, it was it was to literally
Speaker 1: ripped the cheat off of Michael Krant. That was I
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard this, but Michael Cratchley said
Speaker 1: he the chain to his chest and to leave still
Speaker 1: ripped it off. Found a way to get in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was an old fashioned fight on the field a
Speaker 1: f C West rivals the Silver and Black, and all right,
Speaker 1: I suld recorded a little bit. I said, altercation. It
Speaker 1: was a fight. Well to leave as a guy who
Speaker 1: get up in your face, So you know the Jets
Speaker 1: receivers will be prepared for that. I'm really interested to
Speaker 1: see how Robbie Anderson plays this Sunday. Obviously the rest
Speaker 1: of the team too, but this is his This is
Speaker 1: a great test for Robby Anderson. Jamaine Curs has played
Speaker 1: this team before. He's played Chris Harris and to keep
Speaker 1: to leave in the Super Bowl. Maybe he's someone that
Speaker 1: Anderson will rely on. But it is two years in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I would say this is Anderson's best match
Speaker 1: up from a talent perspective, and not to mention it's
Speaker 1: in Denver, where the altitude is thin and the arison
Speaker 1: and I'm very curious to see how he can. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna have forty nine carries every week, and we
Speaker 1: know that forty nine rush at times, but you need balance.
Speaker 1: You can't just um a Padi McCown and the and
Speaker 1: the balance last week was very good, but uh, the
Speaker 1: Jets will have to come up with a game plan
Speaker 1: for a game record in von Miller. Calvin Beecham was,
Speaker 1: as you wrote this week Greens, very complimentary about Brandon
Speaker 1: Shell in the job he did against Justin Houston. Justin
Speaker 1: Houston has been a prolific pass rusher, but at this
Speaker 1: point of time, five Miller's on all other level. Time
Speaker 1: to hit the phones already. Let's go out to Denver,
Speaker 1: Colorado to bring in Eric de Lalla, the associate editor
Speaker 1: of Denver Broncos dot com. You can follow him on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Eric Delalla, but that's Eric with an A,
Speaker 1: not Eric with an East. Will make sure to give
Speaker 1: him a follow. Eric, thanks so much for joining US
Speaker 1: Jets Broncos this Sunday. When you look at the Broncos,
Speaker 1: very competitive the last couple of seasons, but lost their
Speaker 1: last eight games. From where you stand, what's been the
Speaker 1: theme this year? Yeah, I think head coach Bands Joseph
Speaker 1: has said it best when he's just looking for a
Speaker 1: fair game, because if you look at this eight game
Speaker 1: losing streak, there's been so many times when the Broncos
Speaker 1: have turned it over in the first quarter, or they've
Speaker 1: had it at the goal line and throw a pick
Speaker 1: that gets returned all the way to the to our
Speaker 1: one yard line. Is that happened against the Bengals and
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and what ends up happening is
Speaker 1: they get behind a couple of scores and one they're
Speaker 1: not built on offense to come back from that, and
Speaker 1: to this defense, which has been so good the last
Speaker 1: few seasons, hasn't been able to kind of hold teams
Speaker 1: when necessary. I think if you see the Broncos get
Speaker 1: into a fair game, as Joseph has been saying, where
Speaker 1: they don't turn the ball over early, they're able to
Speaker 1: get a couple of scores on the board and kind
Speaker 1: of keep things close going into halftime, then they might
Speaker 1: be able to turn this around. But right now they
Speaker 1: just haven't been able to do that recently. What do
Speaker 1: you point to most for Trevor simeon struggles here his
Speaker 1: third season out of Northwestern. Yeah. I think he would
Speaker 1: be the first to tell you that he made some
Speaker 1: uncharacteristic throws. This past week in Miami. He wasn't very
Speaker 1: good by any measure. Was nineteen of forty one, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three picks, he was sacked three times. I think part
Speaker 1: of that he hasn't had a ton of time to
Speaker 1: throw UM, but the offensive line has, in my opinion
Speaker 1: at least been an improvement from last season. UM. The
Speaker 1: receivers vance Joseph said this week, they had some trouble
Speaker 1: creating separation UM, and then he he just missed some
Speaker 1: outroutes that he normally throws. He was laid on a
Speaker 1: couple of things. UM. It's definitely not a mental issue.
Speaker 1: He knows knows the plays. I think he's good at that.
Speaker 1: He knows adjustments at the line, but he's just had
Speaker 1: some some errors in his mechanics or the physical part
Speaker 1: of throwing the football, and the last few weeks it's
Speaker 1: just kind of slipped away from him. Because if you
Speaker 1: look back too early in the season when they when
Speaker 1: they beat the Chargers at home to open the year,
Speaker 1: when they crushed the Cowboys at home, he played really
Speaker 1: well and he was kind of looking like a guy
Speaker 1: where he wasn't going to be a Tom Brady or
Speaker 1: a Matt Ryan or somebody that's gonna win the MVP Award.
Speaker 1: But he was certainly good enough to get this team
Speaker 1: to a three on one start into the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: I think Joseph said that yesterday he said, listen, the
Speaker 1: talents obviously there to some extent because we started three
Speaker 1: and one, um, but he's just looked a little shaky,
Speaker 1: especially since that Kansas City game in Week eight. Has
Speaker 1: there been a difference between McCoy's offense and Musgrave's offense
Speaker 1: since McCoy left, I think, to some extent um, things
Speaker 1: have been simplified a little bit. They've talked about that
Speaker 1: when uh McCoy left that at times they were finding
Speaker 1: too many answers and that that doesn't necessarily sound like
Speaker 1: a problem where you've got too many answers to things
Speaker 1: that other teams are doing. But I think what was
Speaker 1: happening is they were getting bogged down. There are a
Speaker 1: couple of reports that there were things being called in
Speaker 1: games that weren't necessarily being called during practice that week,
Speaker 1: And I think what Joseph wanted to get two was, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's be really good at this set of things and
Speaker 1: let's see where that gets us. And at times it's worked.
Speaker 1: There's been drives, there's one against Miami where they move
Speaker 1: the ball down the field with ease um. The issue
Speaker 1: is just that they can't seem to get out of
Speaker 1: their own way, and there are too many instances in
Speaker 1: which those drives are going well and then a tipped
Speaker 1: pass gets intercepted, or there's a snap over Simeon's head
Speaker 1: for a safety, or upun return gets dropped. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where the issue is and that they've struggled
Speaker 1: to not make those killer mistakes. But I think from
Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint, it has changed a little bit in
Speaker 1: terms of getting back to the strength of the offense,
Speaker 1: which is running the football, which is making these easier throws.
Speaker 1: They don't need to go out there and have a
Speaker 1: huge playbook and have a hugely complicated scheme. They just
Speaker 1: need to do right now. I would say two or
Speaker 1: three things really well, and that should be enough to
Speaker 1: get them back to at least being competitive. A lot
Speaker 1: of talent on the defensive side of the ball starts
Speaker 1: with Von Miller, the NFL's top fass rush er. You
Speaker 1: look at those cornerback act I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna find a finer duo in the National Football League
Speaker 1: than the Key to Leave and Chris Harris uh Wade
Speaker 1: Phillips though is in l A with the Rams coordinated
Speaker 1: net defense. Has anything changed schematically with the Broncos this season.
Speaker 1: You know, I would say if you look early in games,
Speaker 1: the Broncos are actually better than they were a year ago. UM.
Speaker 1: Some of the defensive players talked about how at times
Speaker 1: the script was so set at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: game and it was still routine that opposing teams essentially
Speaker 1: knew exactly what the Broncos were gonna do weekend and
Speaker 1: week out, and that put them in a lot of
Speaker 1: early holes. UM. I think last year there was something
Speaker 1: like only one of the last ten games or something
Speaker 1: like that a team didn't go down the field and
Speaker 1: score on their first possession. That's changed this year. Defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator Joe Woods has has tweaked some things, especially on
Speaker 1: that first drive, and they've played well enough, UM at
Speaker 1: times to win football games. You said, Von Miller, he's
Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers in the game. UM
Speaker 1: only has eight sacks this excuse me, nine sacks this year, UM,
Speaker 1: And I think part of that as teams are just
Speaker 1: so focused on chipping him making somebody else beat them,
Speaker 1: and that hasn't always happened. UM. Shane Ray is playing
Speaker 1: with a cast on his left hand after a training
Speaker 1: camp injury. Shaquille Barrett is playing well um and has
Speaker 1: made some plays the last couple of weeks, but really
Speaker 1: they need to find a way to get Vaughan more involved.
Speaker 1: And then, like you talked about, in the back end,
Speaker 1: Chris Harris and the keep to Leave are two of
Speaker 1: the best in the league. In this past week when
Speaker 1: I keep to Leave missed a game because of his suspension,
Speaker 1: we saw Bradley Roby out there for a week and
Speaker 1: he had five p bus had a really really solid game,
Speaker 1: forced the fumble, recovered that fumble um and looked good
Speaker 1: in that number two corner spot. So I think they
Speaker 1: feel good about where they are with individual players. But
Speaker 1: the issue is is that the last few weeks, the
Speaker 1: offense has put together a scoring drive and then you expect, okay,
Speaker 1: the defense is going to come on here and get
Speaker 1: a stop and you're gonna be right back in it,
Speaker 1: and then the team has gone on the opposing team
Speaker 1: has gone on a long drive to score a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And what Joseph said this week about that is, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't really care if we lose by four or
Speaker 1: we lose by twenty four. And there are times during
Speaker 1: games when I'm going to take some chances to make
Speaker 1: sure we have that opportunity to win, and I think
Speaker 1: that's led to some busted coverages, some big plays and
Speaker 1: the defense not being able to get off the field
Speaker 1: and the offense can get back. Eric de la la
Speaker 1: from Denver Broncos dot com, he's associate editor, joining us
Speaker 1: on the Official Jets podcast game preview, Jets Broncos, how
Speaker 1: is that locker room? Starting three and one, Denver did,
Speaker 1: and then after that eight game losing streak for some teams,
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a big time turn for the worst. Uh.
Speaker 1: Do you anticipate the Broncos coming out with the spirited
Speaker 1: efforts Sunday? Yeah, you know, I'll be really interested to
Speaker 1: see how they play. The feeling of the locker room
Speaker 1: previous to this game against the Dolphins that everybody was
Speaker 1: still upbeat. They were losing these close games they were
Speaker 1: or they were losing the teams that they thought were
Speaker 1: better than them, and then this week happened when it
Speaker 1: seemed like everything went wrong. They had two safeties, they
Speaker 1: threw three picks, the Dolphins had a bunch of long drives,
Speaker 1: and it was just kind of a microcosm with the
Speaker 1: season and Chris Harris, I think said it best after
Speaker 1: the game when he said, we shouldn't be losing like
Speaker 1: this to this type of team. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where maybe the frustration sets in that like, this team
Speaker 1: that's only eighteen months removed from a Super Bowl title
Speaker 1: is now getting blown out in Miami, And so that's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see whether they keep that up,
Speaker 1: whether the leadership on the team, captains like von Miller
Speaker 1: and da Marius Thomas and to keep to lead, can
Speaker 1: keep the team dialed in. But I do think it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what the intensity is like, because
Speaker 1: it is more difficult when you're three and nine to
Speaker 1: get up for a game than when you're three and one.
Speaker 1: Have teams the past couple of weeks gone about attacking
Speaker 1: the Broncos unit? And how do you expect the Jets
Speaker 1: to use their talent to try to move the ball
Speaker 1: against the very talented unit. I think the thing that
Speaker 1: opposing teams have done well when they've had success against
Speaker 1: the Broncos is one they target the tight end. The
Speaker 1: Broncos have had a lot of trouble stopping the tight
Speaker 1: end position, whether that was against the New York Giants
Speaker 1: when this whole skid kind of started, um and Evan
Speaker 1: Ingram was the only healthy option the Giants had, and
Speaker 1: he just kind of torched the Broncos in that game.
Speaker 1: Whether it's Hunter Hunter Henry against the Chargers, whether it
Speaker 1: was Travis Kelsey against the Chiefs, that's just kind of
Speaker 1: gone on and on, UM, and they've allowed a lot
Speaker 1: of touchdowns to tight ends. UM. I think the other
Speaker 1: thing is simple crossing rounds. A lot of teams aren't.
Speaker 1: They're still not going after a keep to leave, They're
Speaker 1: still not going after Chris Harris. It's not like those
Speaker 1: guys are getting burned. But when you're up tend nothing
Speaker 1: like most of the Broncos opponents have been early. You
Speaker 1: don't have to take chances against those guys. You can
Speaker 1: take the easy throw, you can take the dump off pass.
Speaker 1: You can even just run the ball on third and
Speaker 1: four and see what hapens and then punt the ball
Speaker 1: if you need to, and just stay in the game.
Speaker 1: Because it recently the Broncos have hurt themselves enough where
Speaker 1: teams haven't had to score a ton of points, are
Speaker 1: put together a ton of long drives. UM. So for
Speaker 1: the Jets, they think if they're able to get the
Speaker 1: run game going just a little bit, which will be
Speaker 1: tough because the Broncos are second best in the league
Speaker 1: against the rush. That's one thing they've been really good at. Um.
Speaker 1: But if they're able to do that, get the tight
Speaker 1: end involved a little bit, and then if they're able
Speaker 1: to get ahead early, just take advantage of some of
Speaker 1: these dump off route some of these crossing rounds that
Speaker 1: aren't these super convoluted or complicated patterns. Um but get
Speaker 1: guys in some space, that's where they're going to find success.
Speaker 1: I think, well, Greens, it sounds like awesome. Safari and Jenkins,
Speaker 1: the Jets big tight end could have a busy day.
Speaker 1: And also Jermaine Curses been very successful work in the
Speaker 1: middle on those crossing patterns as well. And the Jets
Speaker 1: are getting Robby Anderson moving all over the place and Eric,
Speaker 1: that's one thing that we're really looking forward to on
Speaker 1: Sunday in Denver's Robby Anderson and Jermaine Curse being tested
Speaker 1: by these premier corners. You mentioned Punt in your previous answer,
Speaker 1: and what lit up in my head is what's going
Speaker 1: on with the Broncos special teams In two thousand and seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of all came to a head a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago and against the Patriots, UM, they gave up
Speaker 1: a big return, they dropped punt return. UM, they almost
Speaker 1: had a safety on a kickoff return. UM. Things have
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit better, but I think Broccoliba, who's
Speaker 1: the new special teams coordinator here, he came over from
Speaker 1: Kansas City where he learned under Dave Tobe, who has
Speaker 1: been there for a long time, was that he needs
Speaker 1: to instill this attitude and the guys here, and he
Speaker 1: said it's been his fault that he hasn't done that
Speaker 1: yet and he hasn't taught them what it means to
Speaker 1: be a special teams player, to be a good special
Speaker 1: teams player, I think in particular where you've seen problems
Speaker 1: is the punt return unit. UM. Last year the Broncos
Speaker 1: really struggled with that. They went out and drafted Isaiah
Speaker 1: mackenzie had at Georgia and thought he was going to
Speaker 1: be the sir. In the preseason, he really flashed and
Speaker 1: he looked like he was going to be that guy.
Speaker 1: He had some big returns, but he's really had issues
Speaker 1: catching the ball. I think at this point it's probably
Speaker 1: a mental thing. They sat him down after that New
Speaker 1: England game for a few weeks, and he got his
Speaker 1: first chance back against the Dolphins and he fumbled again
Speaker 1: and had there was a safety um and Joseph said
Speaker 1: yesterday that he's done for the season, and so Jordan Taylor,
Speaker 1: who's a reserve wide receiver, will take that over um.
Speaker 1: He's sure handed, he hasn't fumbled. He's also not a
Speaker 1: dynamic return threat where he's going to break one for
Speaker 1: sixty yards. So I think again that takes away from
Speaker 1: some of the big playability that the Broncos have, but
Speaker 1: it makes sure that they don't turn the ball over.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's kind of where the Broncos are.
Speaker 1: They're sacrificing that big play potential just so they don't
Speaker 1: put themselves behind. Kick Wise, Brandon McManus has been solid.
Speaker 1: Riley Dixon, the second year punter, has had his issues
Speaker 1: at times, but he's also been pretty decent. It's really
Speaker 1: been the coverage units, it's been a pun return unit,
Speaker 1: and they haven't really had a spark at the kick
Speaker 1: return unit, and so I think they need to evaluate
Speaker 1: that in the off season, but for now, it seems
Speaker 1: like they're just trying to survive. Make sure to please
Speaker 1: follow Eric da Lalla on Twitter again working with Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos dot com. Eric, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Guys appreciate it all right, greens
Speaker 1: is Eric de Lalla was mentioning the Broncos are not
Speaker 1: in quote unquote survival mode and they're not looking ahead
Speaker 1: to next year. By saying, Okay, we're just gonna look
Speaker 1: and evalue weight players for two thousand and eighteen, he
Speaker 1: sounds like a coach who wants to get that win
Speaker 1: and feeling back inside the locker room. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. And what I took away from talking to
Speaker 1: Eric was this is a great opportunity for Austin suffering Jenkins.
Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to seeing how he's utilized
Speaker 1: this Sunday. And furthermore, is is there a development with
Speaker 1: Chad Hits And we saw him pick up a pair
Speaker 1: of third down catches this weekend. Again Delala just using
Speaker 1: what he said is the crossing rounds the slot position
Speaker 1: has been a weakness when you look at the Broncos
Speaker 1: secondary because Harrison to Leave have been doing a great job,
Speaker 1: So maybe this will open up the door for someone
Speaker 1: like Chad Hanson, maybe our Darius Stewart as well. But
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to
Speaker 1: Riley Dixon, the punter of the Broncos, because he and
Speaker 1: I were alumnus or alumni of Syracuse University and every week,
Speaker 1: hold on every week, ID to go look up and
Speaker 1: down a roster and see you want to Florida or Maryland,
Speaker 1: or Kinnisians for that matter, or Hamburg High School. But
Speaker 1: it is more, it is more rare. It's more a
Speaker 1: rarity that there is an orangeman in the NFL than
Speaker 1: there is a game. Yeah, and of course it's a kicker.
Speaker 1: Of course they're in the same can Hunters are people too,
Speaker 1: and you are a person as well. But it's interesting
Speaker 1: that you're fun. Fact today is of Syracuse alum connection
Speaker 1: with the putter. And I know by the way the
Speaker 1: Broncos had struggled mightily on special teams this year. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of folks at home who don't often
Speaker 1: get a chance to watch the Broncos. Saw them Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football a few weeks ago home against New England
Speaker 1: and last week ye against Miami. They gave up a
Speaker 1: big punt return, they fumbled away a kick, they gave
Speaker 1: up an on size kick. So hey, maybe the guy
Speaker 1: to watch this week is Jojo Netsen, the five seven,
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty three, a hundred and sixty pounder
Speaker 1: who can fly. Maybe this is the week that he
Speaker 1: gets going. And you mentioned special teams, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: two guys who don't mind going to Denver. It's Chandler
Speaker 1: Canton zero and Lockland Edwards because the ball travels. Is
Speaker 1: that all right? There you have it The Official Jets
Speaker 1: Podcast game preview Jets Bronco again, the Jets going out
Speaker 1: to Denver Sports Authority Field at Mile High again. Make
Speaker 1: sure to follow Eric de Lalla on Twitter at Eric
Speaker 1: de Lalla. That's with an a, oh, I didn't I
Speaker 1: do some postmonth? Okay? Well, make sure to follow chat.
Speaker 1: Make sure to follow chatting and also and also follow
Speaker 1: the Syracuse kickers and punters out there. Riley Riley. Message
Speaker 1: to Riley, you are still a legend to me. Thank
Speaker 1: you for the fake punt. It was fantastic. That's all
Speaker 1: I got. We'll see you next week. Yea