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Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. The

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Speaker 1: Washington State Fish and Wildlife Commission voted earlier this month

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Speaker 1: to suspend the state's permit only spring black bear hunt.

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Speaker 1: Opponents argued that the hunt threatens the bear population and

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Speaker 1: is a quote cruel way to kill black bears as

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Speaker 1: they attempt to recover from hibernation and raise their cubs.

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Speaker 1: Supporters of the hunt, which include the Washington Department of

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Speaker 1: Fish and Wildlife, argued that the spring hunt is a

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Speaker 1: key tool to manage the bear population, mitigate tree and

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Speaker 1: property damage, limit ungulate mortality, and reduce human bear conflicts.

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Speaker 1: Side note. If you're wondering about the tree damage part

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Speaker 1: of the bear situation and you need a good short

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Speaker 1: read and some context regarding black bears and tree conflict,

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Speaker 1: find Born under a Stump, The Life and Legend of

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Speaker 1: Big Bill Hewlett by Russ Hewlett. The word can be

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Speaker 1: them will forever be blazed into your brain anyway. They

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Speaker 1: also pointed out that spring hunts have been taking place

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Speaker 1: in the state for decades without apparent harm to the

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Speaker 1: bear population. In two thousand twenty one, only a single

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Speaker 1: lactating female was harvested among the one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: four total bears killed that spring. By the way, four

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Speaker 1: bears is not a lot of bears. In addition, the

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Speaker 1: spring hunt represents only a fraction of the total bear harvest.

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Speaker 1: Over the past five years, Washington's average fall black bear

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Speaker 1: harvest was one thousand, five hundred and fifty six animals,

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Speaker 1: while the spring average was only one. In short, the

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Speaker 1: Commission's decision does not appear based in the science. The

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Speaker 1: state of Washington invests in and hunters pay for. The

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Speaker 1: hunt accomplishes several important management goals without threatening the bear

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Speaker 1: population or resulting in the large scale death of sALS

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Speaker 1: with cubs. So why did commissioners vote to suspend the

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Speaker 1: two thousand two spring bear hunt in Washington. There are

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Speaker 1: several reasons. First, you should know that the vote literally

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Speaker 1: could not have been closer. The commission is supposed to

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Speaker 1: have nine members representing different regions of the state, but

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Speaker 1: Democratic Governor j Insley has dragged his feet appointing a

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Speaker 1: ninth commissioner this spring, the spring bear hunt must be

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Speaker 1: reauthorized every year, so the commissions for four split vote,

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Speaker 1: suspended the hunt. Commissioners who voted against the hunt questioned

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Speaker 1: whether the Department of Fish and Wildlife was accurately estimating

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Speaker 1: the bear population, but one of their main arguments had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with science. Quote like it or not,

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Speaker 1: it's a social issue you that we have many people

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Speaker 1: concerned about, said Commissioner Frank Kuntz during a recent commission meeting.

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Speaker 1: Coonts argued that if they don't succumb to social pressure

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Speaker 1: to ban the hunt, animal rights groups could turn to

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Speaker 1: the legislature or a ballot initiative. Then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: we have a bigger problem than we ever imagined, he said.

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Larry Carpenter, who also voted no, made a similar

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Speaker 1: argument in an interview with Northwest Sportsman. Many believed Carpenter

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Speaker 1: would vote to continue the spring hunt, but he disappointed

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Speaker 1: expectations this year. He says to get the hunt on

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Speaker 1: more solid ground for the long term, he wants to

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Speaker 1: put the spring hunt on the docket again next year,

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Speaker 1: when hopefully the Department of Fish and Wildlife has a

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Speaker 1: firmer grasp on the current state of the black bear population.

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Speaker 1: The question, of course, is whether the animal rights activists

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Speaker 1: who currently opposed the hunt will be convinced by any

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Speaker 1: amount of new scientific evidence. I'm gonna go out on

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Speaker 1: the limb and say no, they won't at all. They

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Speaker 1: don't like black bear hunting. They don't like hunting, and

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Speaker 1: this is what they do. Their arguments aren't based on

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Speaker 1: science or reason. They're based on emotion, and they're using

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Speaker 1: their small group of passionate supporters to put pressure on commissioners.

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Speaker 1: In this arena, they've kicked our butts. At the public

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Speaker 1: comment meeting, fifty of the fifty three people who testified

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Speaker 1: opposed the hunt. According to Northwest Sportsman, they described the

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Speaker 1: hunt as unethical, a trophy hunt, an outrage end quote,

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Speaker 1: recreational assassination. In light of this overwhelming public opposition, it's

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Speaker 1: no wonder the Commission voted to suspend the hunt. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it goes without saying, but the hunting community has to

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Speaker 1: do better. We need to show up to these commission meetings,

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Speaker 1: we need to contact our representatives, and we need to

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Speaker 1: stop assuming that the anti hunting lobby will ever be

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Speaker 1: satisfied with anything but a total hunting band. Back in

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Speaker 1: the nineties, these animal rights groups convinced Washington to band

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Speaker 1: bear baiting and bear hunting with dogs, but they weren't satisfied.

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Speaker 1: Now they're going after bear hunting altogether, and they're picking

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Speaker 1: the spring hunt as their first easy target. It's possible

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Speaker 1: the Commission votes to reinstate the spring hunt next year.

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Speaker 1: I hope they do. The North American model of wildlife

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Speaker 1: conservation is one of the greatest conservation success stories in history,

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Speaker 1: and it's been largely driven and funded by hunters and anglers. Waterfowl, turkeys,

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Speaker 1: mule deer, and black bass thrived today thanks to this model.

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Speaker 1: Keep track of your state's Wildlife Commission meetings and when

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Speaker 1: the time comes, tell that story. Explain why many of

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Speaker 1: America's most iconic animals owe their survival to the outdoor community,

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Speaker 1: And when providing testimony at your commission meeting, which I

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Speaker 1: know you will do, be prepared and practiced to succinctly

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Speaker 1: state why hunting is important to you, your community, and

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Speaker 1: how you utilize the animals you kill when you are

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to connect with one. My experience at meetings

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Speaker 1: like this is that non hunters assumed that every time

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Speaker 1: a hunter hits the woods and animal dies. A little

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Speaker 1: context on how much time in the woods is needed

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Speaker 1: on average to bring something home is helpful, especially when

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Speaker 1: you are filling up the vehicle and buying groceries in

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Speaker 1: the small communities that border your favorite locations. I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you just because you don't want to show up to

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Speaker 1: the meetings doesn't mean the animal rights folks don't want

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Speaker 1: to either. This week, we've got Wisconsin white tails, ticks transmissions,

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Speaker 1: and the King's Game. But first, I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: about my week. And my week has all of the

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Speaker 1: sudden gone from a disappointing seventy five degrees in Kansas

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Speaker 1: to a feels a heck of a lot colder than

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Speaker 1: the thermometer reads eleven degrees in Wisconsin. I've been visiting

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Speaker 1: my friend and a longtime friend of meat eater, Doug Durham.

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Speaker 1: Doug Busy as always, has had me out for the

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Speaker 1: last two days of month, a loader season and the

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Speaker 1: first ever Doe Derby, which coincidentally coincides with the last

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Speaker 1: doe season rifle season of the year. The Dough Derby

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Speaker 1: is a concoction of his that is an attempt to

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Speaker 1: incentivize landowners to allow hunters, particularly new hunters, onto their

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Speaker 1: property to kill white tailed does, and to incentivize hunters

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Speaker 1: in general to get out and take advantage of a

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Speaker 1: final rifle season aimed at you guessed at harvesting more

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Speaker 1: white tailed does in previous years. Many landowners and the

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Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin has recognized that there are an overabundance

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Speaker 1: of white tails in many counties. Overpopulation has effects on agriculture,

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Speaker 1: including wood lots, and higher deer densities lead to more

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Speaker 1: accidents on the roadways and higher concentrations of c w D, brainworm,

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Speaker 1: and other diseases. If you have heard of Doug Durham,

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Speaker 1: you probably at this point associate him with chronic wasting

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Speaker 1: disease or c w D. Doug has perhaps more than most,

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Speaker 1: possibly less than some, taking c w D very seriously.

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Speaker 1: Although Doug has never personally killed a deer with c

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Speaker 1: w D during his hunting season, he has been positively

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Speaker 1: motivated by the site of c w D infected deer

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Speaker 1: to you know, be proactive about things. Chronic wasting disease,

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Speaker 1: as everybody knows by now right, is a folded over protein,

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Speaker 1: a pre on that builds for twelve to fourteen months

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Speaker 1: to really we don't quite know, and in the later

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Speaker 1: stages starts smoking little holes and undulates brains. They in

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Speaker 1: turn have a slow, miserable, drooling death. It's not pretty.

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Speaker 1: Chronic wasting disease is relatively new on the landscape. We

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Speaker 1: don't truly know all the things that we do need

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Speaker 1: to know about it. Speaking with a local biologists for

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, their stance is help

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Speaker 1: us out by participating in voluntary c w D testing

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Speaker 1: of your dear. A negative test result or a non

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Speaker 1: positive test result is just as important as a positive

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Speaker 1: test result. What they're trying to do is they're trying

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Speaker 1: to understand how c w D spreads at what rate,

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Speaker 1: in what age of animals is at most prevalent, and

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Speaker 1: they need your help to do it. Keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: you could take chronic wasting disease and think about it

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Speaker 1: in terms of COVID. Not a darned person on the

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Speaker 1: planet loves to be told what to do. The word mandatory,

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Speaker 1: be it quarantine or face mass or that super scary

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Speaker 1: word vaccine, sounds very good with the word mandatory in

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Speaker 1: front of it or behind it. Are associated with it

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Speaker 1: in any way. However, voluntary is a good thing, and

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Speaker 1: right now with chronic wasting disease before it possibly spreads

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Speaker 1: to humans or other animals such as cattle that consume

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Speaker 1: up preons onto. Just so you know that, I'm not,

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Speaker 1: you know, the preacher, but also part of the choir.

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Speaker 1: I guess the deer that my girlfriend shot on the

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Speaker 1: last day of Montana hunting season. We turned in the

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Speaker 1: head to Montana Fishing Game. They tested for c w

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Speaker 1: test result on that animal. So you know, we're harvesting

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Speaker 1: It's very easy for us and for all of you

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Speaker 1: to add to the information surrounding chronic wasting disease. We're citizens, scientists,

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Speaker 1: science rules. Hunting is conservation, remember anyway, Moving on, scientists

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Speaker 1: at Yale University have developed a new vaccine against ticks

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Speaker 1: that's been successful in early testing on guinea pigs. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you don't own a guinea pig. This still applies

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Speaker 1: because you know, shouldn't it be a vaccine against tick

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Speaker 1: born diseases, not the ticks themselves? If we need something

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Speaker 1: the extremely smart thing about this vaccine. It is actually

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Speaker 1: targeting compounds in the saliva of the ticks rather than

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Speaker 1: any of the specific diseases that the saliva carries, sort

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Speaker 1: a good approach because ticks carry a lot of different diseases.

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Speaker 1: You have likely heard of or even contracted limes disease.

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Speaker 1: Is I have Rocky Mountain spotted fever or the dreaded

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Speaker 1: alpha gel syndrome which makes you violently allergic to red meat.

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Speaker 1: But ticks can also give you typhus rickett, Seo pox,

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Speaker 1: Boutanese fever, African tick bite fever, Flinders Island spotted fever,

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Speaker 1: Queensland typhus Q fever, Colorado tick fever, crimean congo hammorrhagic fever, tularemia,

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Speaker 1: tick born relapsing fever, babe siosis, airliosis, meningio en cephalitis,

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Speaker 1: bovine and a plasmosis heartland virus, and something called the

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Speaker 1: Bourbon virus, which I need to look into further, but

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Speaker 1: I guarantee is less fun that it sounds. And that's

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Speaker 1: just a selection. Remember you can always correct my pronunciation

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Speaker 1: at a s K C A L that's spelled ask

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Speaker 1: cal at the meat eater dot com. Trying to develop

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Speaker 1: a vaccine for all of these nasties is therefore much

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Speaker 1: more complicated than us going after the compounds that almost

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Speaker 1: all ticks everywhere have in their saliva. In the Yale trials,

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Speaker 1: vaccine antibodies attacked those proteins at the site of the

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Speaker 1: how hard they are to detect. When they bite you,

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Speaker 1: they inject compounds known as evaisance, which deactivate the inflammatory

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Speaker 1: of insect bites. That term evason, as you can probably tell,

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Speaker 1: comes from the word evasive, the quality of being able

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Speaker 1: a sentence, old cal is out evason tickboard diseases. That's

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