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Speaker 2: Browns on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 2: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 3: Look at it, Look at it. We're doing it live.

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Speaker 3: It's the first Friday. Merely Bo the great Z. What

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Speaker 3: are you doing? You can't know that you on?

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Speaker 1: You on?

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Speaker 3: You got a mic, you got a hot mic?

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Speaker 1: I am on. I don't know if they turned this

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Speaker 1: was on. Didn't touch anything, so I don't know if that.

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Speaker 3: Was look at it out there watching Red Rasberry.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm testing you.

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Speaker 4: I'm but you know, you take my water bottle.

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Speaker 1: There was a scene I don't remember the name of

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Speaker 1: the movie, and it pains me that I don't, but

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Speaker 1: there was a scene where, you know, sometimes you have

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Speaker 1: to test people. There was a it was a movie

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Speaker 1: about like they were decoding something. Okay, Callie Berry.

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Speaker 3: Oh uh, who could forget?

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Speaker 1: They're testing sometimes you have to perform under difficult circumstances.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about how I let the boy watch

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Speaker 3: under siege last week.

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Speaker 1: Swordfish also has Oh I know that's but that was

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Speaker 1: part of the I understand.

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Speaker 3: But you if you were to say, what is the

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Speaker 3: plot of Swordfish, I would have said, well, Ally Berry,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know. I don't remember what happened in

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Speaker 3: the can't help you with anything beyond that something. She's

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Speaker 3: on a short list of greatest things to ever come

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Speaker 3: out of this region. Halle Berry Cleveland girl. Right, I

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Speaker 3: believe that Cleveland girl. Yeah, East Sider bringing. It always

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Speaker 3: interesting when I would watch Boomerang, which is one of

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Speaker 3: my uh I've watched a ton when I was like

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Speaker 3: middle school, high school age, the Eddie Murphy one off

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Speaker 3: him and Robin Gibbons, like the idea that they tried

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Speaker 3: to make halle Berry like the homely one, that girl

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Speaker 3: next door who was like average, halle Berry was the

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Speaker 3: average one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Robbia have good feet, right, No, she did, Her

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Speaker 1: feet were incredible. Who's he had problems with?

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Speaker 3: Somebody? Leila Roshan is also in that and he had problems.

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Speaker 3: He had problem with her feet. But no, but Halle

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Speaker 3: was like the plain one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you imagine, dude.

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Speaker 3: It's also like Robin Gibbs, a throwing heat but.

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Speaker 1: Still made in Manhattan. And Jennifer Lopez is what are

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Speaker 1: we doing? Is the homely maid that we're going to rescue?

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Speaker 3: What are we doing? It's Jlo? Come on, come on,

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Speaker 3: she had a good run. I had a very good run.

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Speaker 3: How are you you will? I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I you know nothing that we can share here, but

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Speaker 1: got good news you know, yesterday, So it's exciting. I'm

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Speaker 3: What believable thing to do. We're in the middle of

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Speaker 3: free agency, deep in the muck on several fronts. Yes place,

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Speaker 3: You've got great news, but nothing that can be shared here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: What a cryptic thing? I know?

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Speaker 1: Isn't that fun?

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Speaker 3: What is there a paywall I can go behind to

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Speaker 3: get this information?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you have a guy who knows.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a guy talk to a guy says.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I can Maybe you can do that. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 3: I do, I do? I do? I do I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm aware We'll see in time. In time, everyone's win.

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Speaker 3: Everybody wins, just wins for everybody one, never ending boulevard

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Speaker 3: of green light winds?

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Speaker 1: Can we get gm int comment too much?

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Speaker 3: Too much, too much winning?

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Speaker 1: Can't? They can't do it, can't.

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Speaker 4: So he's cutting up. He's five cuts, so he's on

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Speaker 4: a delay. So he's currently listening right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh now he's getting it out. Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's doing the live cuts. Oh he's going to be careful.

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Speaker 1: You could cut that one and be like the card,

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Speaker 1: something great, great news. Can't tell you what it is.

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Speaker 3: Though, someday, someday, someday it'll be revealed, be something else.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now, there will be a party on this show the

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Speaker 1: day that it is revealed. How about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't promise that, I mean either, I don't promise that.

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Speaker 3: We'll do it on a Friday. A few, a few fangus,

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Speaker 3: all dubs there, all dubs there, buttle loose on this loose,

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Speaker 3: let it live.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that, Maybe that'll be on a Thursday, prior to

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Speaker 1: a victory Friday.

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Speaker 3: Like that. I like that, thinking nothing better than a

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know about you, guys, but

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Speaker 1: there's a part of me that thinks the first victory.

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Speaker 1: Friday should be this Friday, as it's going to be

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Speaker 1: seventy degrees.

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Speaker 3: This is this is one of those fridays when you

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Speaker 3: see it. I can't let this one go. I gotta

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Speaker 3: take full advantage of this one.

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Speaker 1: So give it bo and I will not be in

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's he doing? Who you texted with? What do

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna tell you that could be a very

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Speaker 4: big day in this building on Friday, and you will

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Speaker 4: be here?

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Speaker 1: Is that cryptic, Gibbe?

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Speaker 3: Would you're so cryptic? There's a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Friday be such a big day, Gibbe?

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Speaker 3: What could be happening?

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Speaker 4: Just saying there's a chance you will be here no

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Speaker 3: To do at this point, there's a chance. So I

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Speaker 3: no matter what. But that started with there's a chance.

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Speaker 1: That you'll be here, which means that there's a.

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Speaker 3: Chance that we won't sure. That's the way I read them.

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Speaker 3: I will exactly what was said. This was? I mean,

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Speaker 3: that is that's that's we heard. I heard it. Witness

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Speaker 3: next levels next, next levels next. It's a little deceiving

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Speaker 1: I want it to be warmer than it is. I

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Speaker 3: It's we are not. We are so conditioned around here

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Speaker 3: So this happened last night. Beams. He had lacrosse practice

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Speaker 3: He knows better than me. So I go to pick

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Speaker 3: and it is now probably about forty four degrees and windy.

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Speaker 3: My guy's an ice cube. Of course he is. I go, dude, shivering.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, that's the last one of those you got.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it warm warms, yeah, inst fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about that, but it is that.

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Speaker 3: It's what's required. It's what's required for what's out there

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Speaker 3: right now. Tomorrow is going to start to heat up,

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Speaker 3: and then then then we're on right the weekend? Is

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Speaker 3: moisture in the on Saturday? And oh no, really look

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Speaker 3: like storms on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Don't say that because I'm hoping to chase the small

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Speaker 1: ball on Saturday. We're a picture flat.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's seventy five and nothing Friday. Correct. Here,

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Speaker 3: I got a deal for you. Get it. You have

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Speaker 3: to work. I got an idea.

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Speaker 1: I got an idea for it. There's a thing called

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Speaker 1: paid time off here.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I have an idea for you. I know you

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Speaker 3: take it, baby, give it. You've got You've had sixty

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Speaker 3: five vacations already. Hold on, listen, hold on for a second.

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Speaker 3: I'm an idea. Man, I thrive on enthusiasm. We'll do

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Speaker 3: a show Saturday in exchange for Friday off.

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Speaker 4: The hell We're not on Saturday shows a show A

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Speaker 4: man and Jamack have to come in and work.

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Speaker 1: No, this is what I think right now, way to

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Speaker 1: do it right now?

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Speaker 3: This is what we know. Show Thursday.

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Speaker 5: This is what we know.

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Speaker 3: Stack them. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: So on Thursday, you aren't doing if I there's no

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Speaker 4: way you're doing four hours of CD can hours in

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Speaker 4: the morning, I know, but then you're gonna do so

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Speaker 4: you're doing seven hours.

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Speaker 3: Seven hours straight.

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Speaker 1: Man, Will you slide in? I can see just side

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Speaker 1: so I can see you, Just so that I can

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Speaker 1: see you. Okay, this is the plan. Can hear me?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear can hear you? That doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: Here's the plan. We know right now, we know, right now,

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Speaker 1: we know, we know Ken Picket.

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Speaker 3: You're not even on camera, idiot? He is I can

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Speaker 3: see him.

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Speaker 1: I am on camera right there.

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Speaker 3: Do you look you're looking at here? I have in

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Speaker 3: my head how to use a micro everything.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm using a microphone very effectively. Actually, so

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Speaker 1: we know. Can can I communicate with the third member

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Speaker 1: of this team?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Be my life, be my guest.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear that. We know Ken Picket? Yeah, we know, Cornelius,

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Speaker 1: we know Devin Bush. I propose, By the way, can

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Speaker 1: you pick it? Did you know this seven game winning

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Speaker 1: drives out of his fifteen wins clutch?

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Speaker 3: I do remember that because anytime we go ahead, Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to derail.

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Speaker 1: I would like the radio calls of all seven of

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Speaker 1: those game winning drives, and then Cornelius highlights, Devin Bush highlights,

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Speaker 1: and I'll intro outro Bo can go Friday show.

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Speaker 3: And scene there you go. Yeah, just did it?

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Speaker 1: How are we gonna? What better way to show love

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Speaker 1: and to welcome people? I'm back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah than that. Couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a heck of a Friday. That's

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Speaker 3: totally forgot about a new linebacker.

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Speaker 1: No he didn't.

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Speaker 3: You got well Devon, he had Devon in No, try on, oh,

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Speaker 3: try on to four of them? Four of them. That's

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Speaker 3: that's even more collegedly.

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Speaker 4: Because it's not final to the way.

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Speaker 1: It's try and show show Yinka, show Yinka, gibbet, try

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Speaker 1: and Showinka, show Yinka.

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Speaker 3: Very good job. Uh. New leg Years starts today at four.

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Speaker 3: I love your plan. I would also be willing to do.

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Speaker 3: I would also be willing to do my plan and

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Speaker 3: just do four hours straight.

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Speaker 1: I would as well. I'll also say there is a

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Speaker 1: D t R picket trade, that we just play that

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Speaker 3: That was bootsy meat and chomps. It's everything that you need,

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Speaker 1: Don't you want to live on this seventy degree Friday.

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Speaker 3: All right, New leagueyear officially four o'clock reportedly re signed

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Speaker 3: He's holding the Pittsburgh organization hostage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with his with what aiding to make his decision.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, g mister Spicoli, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make a better difference.

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Speaker 1: No, if you have conviction, you have conviction and you

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Speaker 3: No, there is no handling it down the road. You

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Speaker 3: They at that point still liked him. We'll take It'll

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Speaker 3: You're right there, You're right there, yep, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: do it. But if you do that and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: But the only way that this pick leads to a

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Speaker 1: We're not doing anything unless again, what's the goal? I

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Speaker 3: more than missing on a defensive end. Well, and I

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Speaker 3: understand that, right I've everybody's seen the jersey. Everybody knows that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's part of the history. You got

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Speaker 3: to own it, it's part of who you are. But

443
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Speaker 3: the reality is that the penalty for that is not

444
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Speaker 3: what it used to be if you do miss on it,

445
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Speaker 3: and again that's a big if, if you do miss

446
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Speaker 3: on it, if the penalty is not what it used

447
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Speaker 3: to be, and missing on a defensive end or a

448
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Speaker 3: corner or anything else is just as punitive. It just

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the shine on it. Yep.

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Speaker 1: For example, the first pick in this regime was Jed Wills.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, who.

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Speaker 1: As of now, unless I've missed it, has not even

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Speaker 1: signed with a team. Is that still correct.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it anywhere. Yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: That's not even talked about, and that is that's a

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Speaker 1: top ten.

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Speaker 3: Miss.

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Speaker 1: Blake Hants has already signed with somebody. I just saw

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Speaker 1: him across at Blake Kant's former Browns co offensive lineman

460
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Speaker 1: signed with the Titans, and Jed Wills has not. So

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Speaker 1: it's different when it's a quarterback and people like, oh,

462
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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's But guess what, like these guys move around,

463
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Speaker 1: it happens and teams move on. The New England Patriots

464
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Speaker 1: drafted Mac Jones in the first round. They moved off

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Speaker 1: him quickly, and now.

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Speaker 3: They had Drake May, Yes, quickly. I mean it was

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Speaker 3: two years. I mean that's it. That's what it is now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look think of Zach Wilson, Drake May, Josh Rosen.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a tone of those guys. Darnold.

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Speaker 1: The Jets would have fully believed that once they got

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that was going to fix their issue. But

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Speaker 1: they did not.

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Speaker 3: No, No, they didn't know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the more surprising part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the that's the thing that you're always chasing

476
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Speaker 3: those that and so you got to figure out what

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Speaker 3: that's going to be. We certainly expect that there will

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Speaker 3: be another veteran edit added to this room over the

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Speaker 3: next week or so. I would think. I don't think

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Speaker 3: you're going to have just Kenny Pickett and that's it,

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Speaker 3: So another veteran will be added there. In terms of

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Speaker 3: the guys who are available, still, we have not been

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Speaker 3: at all linked or mentioned at all with Rogers or Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I know Mary kay on yesterday she thought we should

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Speaker 3: maybe look into Russell Wilson. I haven't seen that anywhere else.

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Speaker 3: She's locked ins, but I didn't know if that was

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Speaker 3: her opinion or what she's hearing. I couldn't tell which

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Speaker 3: maybe was if that's what she was hearing or that

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Speaker 3: was I think rus opinion. OK, So then if that's

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Speaker 3: not it, then you're now in the that's now Flacco, Wentz,

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Speaker 3: mar Riota, Minshew, that's that. Those are the guys who

492
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Speaker 3: are out there, which is not an exciting Joe would

493
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Speaker 3: be exciting because of what happened here previously. And there's

494
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Speaker 3: the magic, yeah, the magic of it, magic, the magic.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz Haz actually played fairly well. He just you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously in Washington, we were there that was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those fans were so sick of them. He had the

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Speaker 1: chance in Indy to take them to the plays. Actually

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Speaker 1: played well that year if you remember, though, they lost

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Speaker 1: I want to say Week eight, the last final week

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Speaker 1: of the season in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: I remember that, Yeah, in a game that they.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't have lost. I don't know if Trevor Lawrence wasn't

504
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Speaker 1: even playing in that game, but they lost the game

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Speaker 1: in Jacksville that they should not have lost that year,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it was the Urban Meyer year.

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Speaker 3: After Urban had been was a twenty one that seems

508
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Speaker 3: like it, right.

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Speaker 1: I think Wentz was the quarterback in twenty one there,

510
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Speaker 1: that feels right to me. Twenty one or twenty two.

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Speaker 1: But they lost at the end of the season in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville in a game they shouldn't have lost and didn't

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But he played pretty well that season.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, yeah, that's Indy. That was

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Speaker 3: his one year in Indy. Was he was nine and

516
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Speaker 3: eight that year, You have a good memory, no shock,

517
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Speaker 3: sixty two percent, thirty five sixty three, twenty seven touchdowns,

518
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Speaker 3: seven picks. Yeah, that was that was that year in Indy.

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Speaker 3: And then he went to Washington after that. That's where

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Speaker 3: he had that burgundy suit. Remember he war to the presser.

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Speaker 3: So he went to Washington after it for one year,

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Speaker 3: got seven starts that year was two and five as

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Speaker 3: a starter.

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Speaker 1: One it was against US.

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Speaker 3: It was terrible, terrible, terrible, Kenny, but they they did.

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Speaker 3: That was a pretty bad situation roster wise Washington at

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Speaker 3: that time. And then it's been back up in Rams

528
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Speaker 3: for the Rams last or two years ago. He was

529
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Speaker 3: just played one game, started one game seventeen to twenty

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Speaker 3: four seventy won sixty three, two touchdowns and a pick,

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Speaker 3: playing a similar system that we do YEP with the Rams.

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Speaker 3: And then Kansas City last year, just the one start, the.

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Speaker 1: One start you can throw out. That was the final

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Speaker 1: week of the season and they played nobody and I

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Speaker 1: think he painted it off. They were down thirty to

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Speaker 1: nothing in the first quarter. Denver played all starters Skins

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Speaker 1: and he played literally nobody, and I don't even think

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Speaker 1: they attempted to. I'm not sure they had a first down.

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Speaker 3: In the first It was like a three runs and punt. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they I would not have had that. He is thirty

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Speaker 3: two years old. No, but he came into the league late.

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Speaker 3: He was twenty four pun draft in sixteen. Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: that was the golf draft, which goes back to the

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Speaker 3: whole point again. That was a draft where the Browns

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Speaker 3: were all in on Jared Goff Tennessee had the first pick.

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Speaker 3: Browns at the second pick, Rams jump them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yah, here we are Bill, great Bill. Look at that

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Speaker 1: gate stride stride determined.

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Speaker 3: He does seem a little determined focused. Oh oh man

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Speaker 3: knew it. Yeah, Oh god, a karate chop was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: If you could have seen that, give a no one

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Speaker 3: would have loved that.

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Speaker 1: You and g love that.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was a purpose. It happens. I duck out of

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Speaker 3: the way.

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Speaker 1: But then you could see him smile and we didn't

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Speaker 1: know who he was.

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Speaker 3: It was for the time to be alive. Hey, congratulations

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Speaker 3: the Caves. They beat the Nets last night. They clinched

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Speaker 3: it to that Central. They once fifteen in a row,

562
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Speaker 3: second time this season. They've had fifteen straight wins consecutively.

563
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Speaker 3: There's also a twelve game winning streak in there. It's crazy,

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely crazy how good they are. No Mitchell. Last

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Speaker 3: night Garland had eighteen points in the fourth which match

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Speaker 3: with the Nets scored as an operation.

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Speaker 1: I mean this in the nicest way, but just get

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Speaker 1: me to the playoffs. This playoff team. This is a team.

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Speaker 1: This is a team that the question is going to

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Speaker 1: be can they win two seven game series in a row?

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Speaker 1: And those seven game series that I'm alluding to are

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Speaker 1: can they beat the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And then can they beat whomever comes out of the

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Speaker 1: Lakers or this is a team if they're not and

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that they are even the favorites come

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Speaker 1: out of the East right now, which they're not.

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Speaker 3: Boston's the favorite to win the championship in the favorite

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Speaker 3: of the East.

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Speaker 1: I think Caves are the best team in basketball.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they've proven that they are. And the other

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Speaker 3: thing about it is like that Game seven in the

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Final is going to be here. I like

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Speaker 3: those chances. I like the sound of that Donovan is

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Speaker 3: fearless against Boston, doesn't fear him ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't even know if there's a football

586
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Speaker 1: analogy for it, because in basketball one player can affect

587
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Speaker 1: so much things more than in football. But he's he

588
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: was the perfect acquisition for their roster and for their opponents.

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Speaker 3: It was for the note like the for the somethings,

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Speaker 3: and also an incredible job of organization of accumulating assets.

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Speaker 3: There came a chance to go swing big and they

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Speaker 3: knocked it out of the park.

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Speaker 1: Why would Atlanta let him go there a playoff? I

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Speaker 1: don't understand their thought process on that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're going with Hunter. I was doing the Donovan

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Speaker 3: Mitchell part of it. But yes, all of those things are.

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Speaker 1: But season acquisitions. Yeah, it's literally perfect for our team,

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Speaker 1: the team that you want to beat.

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Speaker 3: Nailed it, brother, absolutely nailed it all right. Coming up next,

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Speaker 3: there covers the Browns of course at ESPN. Daniel, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for taking the time. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: We are about two hours, two and a half hours

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Speaker 3: from the start of the league year. Officially, the quarterback

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Speaker 3: market went fast and furious early the acquisition of Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: Is there.

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Speaker 3: What are you hearing on the Browns in regard to

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Speaker 3: quarterback In addition to.

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Speaker 7: That, Yeah, well, well, first off, thanks for having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think Andrew Barry said it.

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Speaker 6: You know, he laid it up.

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Speaker 7: Pretty pretty frankly at his end of season news conference.

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Speaker 7: You know, the quarterback room was gonna look very different

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty five. Now, I don't think anybody really

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Speaker 7: expected the first quarterback move they made to be you know,

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Speaker 7: trading for Kenny Pickett. But you know, this is the

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Speaker 7: only move that they're gonna make. You know, they're still

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Speaker 7: kind of scarring and perusing, you know, what's kind of

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Speaker 7: left of the market. I didn't expect the Browns to

634
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Speaker 7: be in on any of the higher priced free agent,

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Speaker 7: certainly not a Sam Donald. I know Andrew Barry said

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Speaker 7: that their cash and cap situation wasn't going to be

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Speaker 7: prohibitive to making moves.

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Speaker 6: But this is a team that has.

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Speaker 7: Multiple needs, several needs across the board, you know, I

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Speaker 7: think that also kind of looking at some you know,

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Speaker 7: obviously the Kirk Cousins situation kind of loans over all

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Speaker 7: this with him having a bonus do I believe or

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Speaker 7: some guaranteed money do in a couple of days? You know,

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Speaker 7: the Falcons said that they're not gonna uh, they're going

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Speaker 7: to keep him, but they have no problems keeping him.

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Speaker 6: But obviously that's a big price tag.

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Speaker 7: So when you're if you're the Browns, especially at the

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Speaker 7: quarterback position, and knowing uh, you know, you have to

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Speaker 7: address other needs, you're looking at value. And I think

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Speaker 7: that Kirk Cousins, given the the you know, the familiarity

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Speaker 7: with Kevin Stefanski, the fact that you're probably gonna get

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Speaker 7: him on close to a minimum contract, if not a

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Speaker 7: minimum contract, if you're looking at value, That's something I

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Speaker 7: definitely have my eyes out for in the next couple

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Speaker 7: of days.

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Speaker 1: When you look at that position, obviously you're talking about

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Speaker 1: some of the free agents. Where where do you think

658
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Speaker 1: this team falls on the draft for the quarterback? We've

659
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Speaker 1: heard so much talk about quarterback at two. We certainly

660
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Speaker 1: would love to get a quarterback at two or even

661
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Speaker 1: trading up to one for for whomever they think is

662
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Speaker 1: top quarterback in this draft if they it's necessary. What

663
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Speaker 1: do you kind of make of of where this all

664
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Speaker 1: is going to fit in and what this quarterback room

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Speaker 1: ultimately will look like when this team you know, gets

666
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Speaker 1: together for for the O t as here in a

667
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Speaker 1: few months.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, the thing about picking that too is that the

670
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Speaker 7: Browns are going to have their their their pick of

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Speaker 7: one of the top two options in this draft, that

672
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Speaker 7: being either cam Ward or Suldare Sanders. Now at the combine,

673
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Speaker 7: you know, Andrew Berry Kim Stefanski spoke very highly of

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Speaker 7: both those players.

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Speaker 6: You know, they they said that they had very good

676
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Speaker 6: meetings with both of them.

677
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Speaker 7: At the Combine and obviously which Shader at the East

678
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Speaker 7: West Fine Bowl a couple of months back. But you

679
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Speaker 7: know this, like a lot of people have said, no,

680
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Speaker 7: this is a draft class where you know, the top

681
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Speaker 7: options you know don't really uh, you know, match up

682
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Speaker 7: with maybe some of the top options last year when

683
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Speaker 7: you're talking about Caleb Williams and Drake May and Jay

684
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Speaker 7: and Daniels. So the question is, like, you're gonna have

685
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Speaker 7: an option that you're gonna have the option of one

686
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Speaker 7: of those guys that too, But do you feel comfortable?

687
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Speaker 7: And that's kind of what I was trying to ask

688
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Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski at the combine, like what do you need

689
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Speaker 7: to know to pick a guy at too? Like I

690
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Speaker 7: pick him in them at two? That's obviously the franchise quarterback.

691
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Speaker 7: That's that that's your guy. So obviously you know they're

692
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Speaker 7: not only scouting those guys, but some other all the

693
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Speaker 7: other quarterbacks. You know there's going to be some options

694
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Speaker 7: on Day two and you know we're still we're still

695
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Speaker 7: a ways away from from that decision for sure.

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Speaker 3: Is your sense though that that from a that in

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Speaker 3: terms of this room, and Andrew Berry talked about it,

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Speaker 3: and you referenced how it's going to look very different,

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Speaker 3: is it? You're is kind of the way you're when

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Speaker 3: you talk to folks around the league that the second

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Speaker 3: veteran added would feel like that's the guy that would

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Speaker 3: start the year. Or do you think Kenny Pickett was

703
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Speaker 3: brought in here to compete?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't say that Kenny Pickett was.

705
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Speaker 7: I mean, he's going to get an option. I mean

706
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Speaker 7: he's getna an opportunity to compete and you know, at worst,

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Speaker 7: you know, be the backup.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that this was there. This obviously wasn't

709
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Speaker 6: like their number one move. Like, I don't see this

710
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Speaker 6: as a number one move.

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Speaker 7: I do think that they're looking to bring in somebody else,

712
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 7: another veterans quarterback was starting experience, and I would think

713
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Speaker 7: that the second that they would bring in, it would

714
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Speaker 7: probably lean more to a guy they feel more comfortable

715
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Speaker 7: with starting. You know, obviously Kenny Pigott does have that experience,

716
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Speaker 7: but at this point of his career, he's really more

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Speaker 7: of a backup option. So again, I think this is

718
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Speaker 7: just a part of remodeling that quarterback room. And you know,

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Speaker 7: as it stands, you know, he is the only healthy

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Speaker 7: quarterback on the roster in twenty twenty five. But I

721
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Speaker 7: definitely don't see it as like this is the guy

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Speaker 7: that we've brought in to definitely compete for the starting spot.

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Speaker 7: I think that again, they're looking for another starting option

724
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Speaker 7: that they feel a little more comfortable putting out.

725
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Speaker 6: There in Week one.

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Speaker 1: Daniel who at that point?

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Speaker 3: Who is that?

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Speaker 6: All right?

729
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Speaker 7: That's the question that you know, Northeast Ohio want to know.

730
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Speaker 7: You know, I woke up and I tweeted the options

731
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Speaker 7: that are that are available, you know, and I don't

732
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Speaker 7: think that Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson doesn't look like

733
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Speaker 7: that's going to be an option for the Browns right now.

734
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Speaker 7: It seems like they're kind of more focused on the

735
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Speaker 7: Giants and maybe going back to the Steelers. You know,

736
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Speaker 7: you got Carson Wentz, she got you know, Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's really just not a lot of options.

738
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Speaker 7: And you know, it was swim pickings to begin with,

739
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Speaker 7: and after two days, you know, it really dried up.

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Speaker 7: So again, Kirk Cousins, at this point, is somebody that

741
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Speaker 7: that situation. I'm definitely monitoring because at this point it's

742
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Speaker 7: just about value, Like can you get somebody with starting experience,

743
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Speaker 7: you know, at a pretty cheap price, and you get

744
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Speaker 7: a value pick because you know, there weren't a lot

745
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Speaker 7: of great options to begin with, and you know it's

746
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Speaker 7: been drying up quickly.

747
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Speaker 3: Are you surprised by some of the contracts some of

748
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Speaker 3: these guys got. I mean, I'm talking about Darnold, I'm

749
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Speaker 3: talking about Fields, those two especially jump out, even Daniel Jones.

750
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Speaker 3: I mean, seventeen million in incentives, Fields thirty million guaranteed

751
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: you could add all those guys for next to nothing

752
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Speaker 3: in the last couple of years. Are you surprised that

753
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: the market was as robust as it was and the

754
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: compensation was as rich as it was.

755
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Speaker 7: I'm not because they're they're they're quarterbacks, and no matter

756
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 7: what we say about you know, you know, teams not

757
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 7: wanting to spend and whatnot, like this is what happens

758
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 7: on the first couple days of free agency. You know,

759
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 7: the cap goes up first couple of days of negotiat

760
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 7: negotiation period, teams throw out a lot of money. And

761
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Speaker 7: that's just how it goes, you know, especially when you're

762
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Speaker 7: talking about starting caliber, starting level quarterbacks and all those

763
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Speaker 7: all those guys got kind of different level contracts. You know,

764
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Speaker 7: Donald was more kind of like the Baker Mayfield contract

765
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Speaker 7: from a couple of years back field, you know, look

766
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Speaker 7: like he got twenty million year Daniel Jones when you're

767
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 7: fourteen or something like that. So they're all kind of

768
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 7: different level tiers. But but again, when you have you know,

769
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Speaker 7: starting caliber quarterbacks on the market and teams that have

770
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 7: you know, dire needs for that, you know, that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: Daniel, when you look at this Browns roster. Obviously, all

772
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: all the focus on quarterback did get Miles Garrett back.

773
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Speaker 1: You can throw your reaction to that in here, but

774
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Speaker 1: my question is what are the biggest needs that remain

775
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: and where do you expect this team to you know,

776
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: what positions need to be attacked and or addressed?

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00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I would say, uh, outside of quarterback,

778
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 7: really the skilled positions. You know, obviously Nick Chubb is

779
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 7: a free agent, Elijah Moore is a free agent.

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Speaker 6: You know, you got to get some guys.

781
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 7: Obviously you need somebody to hand the ball off and

782
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 7: throw the football, but you know you need some guys.

783
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 6: You can uh, you know, do some work with the

784
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 6: ball in their hands as well.

785
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Speaker 7: And again you know, this is a free aging class

786
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Speaker 7: that hasn't really you know, it's looked at as a as.

787
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Speaker 6: A weaker free agent class.

788
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Speaker 7: We've already seen some guys come off the board, but

789
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 7: you know, it seems like they are going to kind

790
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 7: of scour the running back market. They're gonna have to

791
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 7: bring in another wide receiver to pair with Jerry Judy

792
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 7: and Cedric Tillman. You know, I think this off season

793
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 7: is really about revamping this this offense as best as

794
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 7: you can, so you not only need to get a

795
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 7: quarterback in, but somebody or a couple of guys who can,

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00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 7: uh you know, are dynamic and can make some plays

797
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Speaker 7: with the ball in their hands.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Nick Chubb, and you know, I'd say every

799
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Speaker 1: day that it goes where he hasn't signed somewhere else

800
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: is hopefully a day closer to him coming back to

801
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Have you heard anything on that front

802
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: and what's going on there?

803
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 6: Not fairly quiet?

804
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 7: Fairly quiet, you know, like Angy Berry said, And who's

805
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 7: gonna get an opportunity to test the market. We haven't

806
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 7: seen a ton of running back movements. I mean, I

807
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 7: think Aaron Jones, Najie Harris Ken Skainwell, come to mind,

808
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 7: those guys have signed. But yeah, I mean with Nick,

809
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 7: I expected to maybe maybe something at draws out a

810
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 7: couple of days where he looks at his options and

811
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 7: then you know, the Browns staying communication see if they

812
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 7: can work something out. But yeah, still quiet right now, obviously,

813
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 7: especially on the Browns front, with you know, only signing

814
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 7: two guys so far, and you know, bringing back Devin Bush.

815
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Speaker 3: All right, Daniel, good stuff, buddy, Thanks for your time,

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Speaker 3: the NFL just for a second, I want to do

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Speaker 3: We'd talk a lot of golf on the show and

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Speaker 3: didn't get a chance to get this in the first segment.

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Speaker 3: Sure do you think that? I mean, I think we

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Speaker 3: know the answer.

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Speaker 1: Very sad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it. This is it that the

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Speaker 3: news yesterday of Tiger Woods with the achilles. I think

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Speaker 3: he was such joy for so much of us for

838
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Speaker 3: so long. He wasn't a spoke on a wheel. He

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Speaker 3: was the whole damn thing. And we just didn't want

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00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: to say out loud that it's done in terms of

841
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: him competing. But it's probably been done for a little bit.

842
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 3: But another achilles. He's had six back surgeries, six different

843
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: back surgeries in the last decade. This is his second achilles.

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00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: He had a leg that was near lucky he still

845
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: has them after the car accident, like he's forty nine,

846
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: but even having sucks. But it's probably the.

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Speaker 1: US hoping that was even pre accident where his leg

848
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: was all it was broken already.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh you mean like Rockomedia, Like, oh yeah, right,

850
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: say he's had it because oh my gosh.

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you see a guy like Fred Couples

852
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: who supposedly has had a bad back forever and he

853
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: still has the same swing and plays and doesn't his

854
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: body is no worse for wear.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't know. You wonder if it was

856
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: just like the violence with which he swung early in

857
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Speaker 3: his career.

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Speaker 1: He was ripped. When you're finally tuned, Yeah, it's easier

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Speaker 1: to break down. Yeah, thank goodness. The magic of the

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Speaker 1: Unexpected Masters.

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Speaker 3: When was that eighteen nineteen?

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Speaker 1: I thought, Yeah, I mean that'll that's it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what you're gonna remember that. That was a matter.

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Speaker 3: That's his eighty six Masters, Yes, Jack in eighty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jack was forty six when he did that.

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Speaker 1: Forty six. How about it?

867
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Speaker 3: How about it?

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Speaker 1: How about it? We're just trying to get me to

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Speaker 1: come back out of just wanting to play a little

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Speaker 1: full flag football for little guys out there, the Masters. No,

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Speaker 1: it's his.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the most. I think he's the most

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Speaker 3: consequential athlete to his sport of my life. And I

874
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: don't really know what second. I cannot think. I can't

875
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: think in team sport, people the natural thing would be

876
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: to go to Jordan and say, well, Jordan was magic

877
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: and birds saved the NBA. The NBA was a thriving

878
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: product by the time it was out of the eighties

879
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: and into the early nineties. Jordan took it to another

880
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: stratosphere globally, but that ascent was happening, and then you

881
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: have the ninety two Dream Team, and so that all

882
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: of that was happening by the time Jordan jumped on

883
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: that on that rocket. There isn't anybody else who took

884
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: a sport that was a country club, white guys playing

885
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: golf sport and made it of ratings. Monster. I mean

886
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: everybody on the tour, everybody on Live. I'll write him

887
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: a thank you note every year because without him it's

888
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: not what they would not have the riches that they had.

889
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: Go look at the prize money before and after. Yeah,

890
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: I mean it goes. It went an exponent tenfold. The

891
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: only one that popped into my head.

892
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: And there are some parallels in terms of, you know,

893
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: the peak fall from Grace, although Tiger is certainly much

894
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: more redemptive. I think arc afterwards, although I could be

895
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: wrong about that, is Lance Armstrong because.

896
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: It's a good one.

897
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: I knew nothing about cycling or Tour de France or

898
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: any even other than you know, I knew it existed

899
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: then Lance Armstrong, like right now, I couldn't tell you

900
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: one person who has won the Tour de France in

901
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: the last.

902
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: That's probably a pretty good job at of you, that's

903
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: a fair job. There are some one off ones like

904
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: you know where there were guys like Usain Bolt or

905
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: Michael Phelps that were like one offs. But it was

906
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: like once every four years, you know, you're right on

907
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: the Tour de France. With certainly with Lance Armstrong, I

908
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: do remember Greg Leamond was a winner a couple of

909
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: times before that. That's it. But in terms of something

910
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: that's there consistently for us, the difference between when he's

911
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: there and when he's not. And he is so linked

912
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: to Ohio as well because of he has five wins

913
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: at the Memorial tournament at Jack's Place. He's Firestone crushed it,

914
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: crushed it, absolutely crushed it there. It mattered to him

915
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: to win Arnold's tournament, to win Jack's tournament, Firestone like

916
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: those events meant something to him and he was unbelievable

917
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: at those at those events, truly was yeah, and so

918
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: you kind of got to touch him a little bit too.

919
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: And there's so many surreal scenes with him of the

920
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 3: excellence I'll never forget in the height of the mess

921
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: of it, and he was trying to come back, and

922
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: he was in his head with you know, people viewed

923
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: him differently all of a sudden, and he had health

924
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: issues and all this stuff that was kind of going on.

925
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: And he was in dead Last the memorial and he

926
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: played around by himself on a Sunday down at Jack's place,

927
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: and he played by himself and went around. He was

928
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 3: the first one out, and there was a picture in

929
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: the Columbus Dispatch of him walking down from the first

930
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: tea box down towards the fairway by himself. You think,

931
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: like five years previous to this. He chips in on

932
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: sixteen in the final round and in an impossible shot

933
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: that you couldn't make if you tied a thousand of them.

934
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: You couldn't get it to go in, let alone, you

935
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: couldn't get it to stop, let alone go in. That

936
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: was all downhill. And then so he hit that, and

937
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: then he won it in twelve. That was a year

938
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: he won it. The last time he won it was

939
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, and then here handful of years later he's

940
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: playing by himself in the final round at Jack's place,

941
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: Like it was such a crazy juxtaposition. But the crazy

942
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: thing about it is he's approaching fifty. I think he's

943
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: forty nine, and he's still is the when he's at

944
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: an event and when he's not, it's half the crowd Yep,

945
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: it really is. Yeah, I mean it's and he inspired

946
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: a generation. All those guys are other justin Thomas is

947
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: all those guys that are all inspired by him.

948
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: It has the potential. And I know that this rankles

949
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: some people, but like the only person I think whoever

950
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: could do that for ap is like what you're seeing.

951
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: But this is this needs to go on for more

952
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: than a decade. Is Kaitlin Clark?

953
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: Right? I use that, And I did that analogy last

954
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: summer in Columbus in the morning, and that's exactly what

955
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: I said. I said, I want to be abundantly clear.

956
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting that she has his greatness in her.

957
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. I don't know.

958
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: But what I know for sure is she is a

959
00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: singular needle mover that's it by herself. Everybody else by

960
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: the way, they can all sit out and that's fine. Fine, Yeah,

961
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: their ratings are going to say the same except the're playing,

962
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: unless the're playing.

963
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: Unless they're playing her. It's just that's and that's how

964
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: it was a Tiger. When Tiger was at an event,

965
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: the box office was twofold. I mean you, how many

966
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: times did you cover Firestone?

967
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: Give me a number of them. I was always why

968
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: there were you?

969
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

970
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 4: It was crazy. I don't I would never even I

971
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: couldn't even see the hole.

972
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. People don't realize that because if you saw that

973
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: on television, you were there. But if you saw it

974
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: on television, they can open up those cameras to take in.

975
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: It just sucks in all the light to make it

976
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: look brighter than it is. Yeah, but it was actually

977
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: probably pitch dark there.

978
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, I remember walking out going am I

979
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: even walking the right way?

980
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: Right?

981
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 6: Like?

982
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: Where where is the where is the lot at?

983
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

984
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: I mean this goes back to it's not going to

985
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: it's not going to make up for his him not

986
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: being there, But like this is why I live in

987
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: the PGA got to get their act together, figure out

988
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: what the hell's going on?

989
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you merge, it'll never be what it was.

990
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: And I think you know the generations that kept because

991
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: the Johnson's all those guys who kind of came up

992
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: Rory who put fitness into their routine, that's all Tiger byproduct,

993
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: that's all him.

994
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: So it makes John Daily such a legend.

995
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you mentioned Fred Couples or Faldo, all

996
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: those guys. Go look at what they look like. This

997
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: looked like dudes in a country, the great Walrus, Mark

998
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 3: o'meira peak athlete. Yeah, there's a lot of those cats

999
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: in those The first he was probably he was somebody

1000
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: into fitness. Yet he was not much of a follower

1001
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: tho because I didn't see many people following his lee

1002
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: on that.

1003
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, they're smoking heaters on the walking down different.

1004
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: I think his the Tiger Jack things I was interesting.

1005
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 3: I think his greatness is the greatest we've ever seen tigers. Yeah,

1006
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: because and the idea that he has the the over

1007
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: like the overwhelming argument was at the one point when

1008
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: he had the record at every major for lowest score

1009
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: and margin of victory at everyone, that's you know, relatives

1010
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: of course, So that's really so he lapped his field.

1011
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: Now people on the jack side will say, well, yah,

1012
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: but he didn't have to play against Arnold Palmer and

1013
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: Lee Trevino and Gary Player. I didn't have to play again.

1014
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Groom to play since they were kids.

1015
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 6: You know.

1016
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: It's a totally totally different sport. Yeah, the equipment, all

1017
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: of it.

1018
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would argue that, I think Tiger would

1019
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: argue this too, that in the old days, the equipment

1020
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: was such that the greater talent would separated, separated.

1021
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: As an equalizer.

1022
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: Now it's anybody can hit a three hundred yard drive.

1023
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: Now not everybody, but anybody on that tour can.

1024
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Maybe not Corey Paven back in the day.

1025
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll get you updated on where we are

1026
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,440
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Speaker 3: Business Platform. We do have a couple of things just

1040
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: happened in the last couple of minutes. Give a what's

1041
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: your free agent tractor?

1042
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: Marcus Mariota is off the table back to Washington on

1043
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 4: a one year reported eight million dollar contric vacuum up.

1044
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1045
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: By the way, have you noticed on on X now

1046
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: they have this new thing where like the stories like

1047
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: slide in.

1048
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: No, yeah, there's there's a lot going on. Maybe that's

1049
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: why it crashed the other day.

1050
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: That's interesting. No, I don't mine's not doing that.

1051
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: Why is it doing that?

1052
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's odd.

1053
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Marcus Mario. Okay, so we went back

1054
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: to Washington. Great, they have a quarterback on a rookie deal.

1055
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: They can pay a little more for a backup. Knows

1056
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: their system. That makes sense. I don't see, really, it's fine.

1057
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing. When I and I asked Daniel that

1058
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: what is Yeah, we gotta get somebody. We feel like

1059
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: we can start. Listen, can you pick it? It's fifteen

1060
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: and ten as a starter. I mean to me, there

1061
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: isn't a single person out there that you would say

1062
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: take Aaron Rodgers out of it, but that you'd be like, okay,

1063
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: like he's for sure gonna do better. And Kenny Pickett

1064
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: would I don't know, No, I think what Pickett fields

1065
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: at least Kenny Pickett has a chance to be so

1066
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: like that's it.

1067
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: I'd rather you use the phrase yesterday. It's a good one.

1068
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: It gives you a bite at the apple. Maybe it's

1069
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: like I said yesterday when we were talking, compared to

1070
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: the no but who knows. But it's it's one of

1071
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: those things where there was an evaluation of him coming

1072
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: out of college that said he was a first round pick.

1073
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh Steelers agreed with that. They took him in

1074
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: the first round. Is there more there? Three out of

1075
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 3: every five games play it's the Sam Darnold attempt that

1076
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: what's happened there? It's Baker the attempt there. Sometimes you

1077
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: hit on him, sometimes you don't. We've had Josh Rosen

1078
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: in here, didn't work. We've had other guys in here

1079
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: who were hyph RG three. It didn't work, but sometimes

1080
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: it does. And so I think what you're trying to

1081
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: do if with like the picket deal, I think that's

1082
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: probably what Daniel Jones would have been like a former

1083
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: first round pick. Jones actually it was a lot much

1084
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: more accomplished, but in terms of Pickett, in terms of

1085
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: what he had done already in the league. But a

1086
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: situation with Daniel Jones are like, Noah, this is a

1087
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: first round pick in the right system with stability. What

1088
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: does this look like? Yep, that's the that's what you're

1089
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: That's what that gives you. That's what the Jets are

1090
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: clinging to with fields. Yeah right that this this guy's fun,

1091
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 3: he can win, he was evaluated, maybe he's a solution,

1092
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: and that's that's what you're looking.

1093
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: But I'm just at the point now with the names

1094
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: that are left, like what name out there?

1095
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: Are you like?

1096
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? That changes nothing? That changes everything?

1097
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: You know.

1098
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 3: Nothing, No nobody out there changes changes everything. Flacco would

1099
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: be the most fun because we know him and there

1100
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: was the magic of that December which we'll always have.

1101
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: I would kind of it would be kind of like, boy,

1102
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: that was such a sweet memory, totally like reliving that

1103
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 3: is just impossible. It feels like that for an extended

1104
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: period of time. Sure, but he's such a good dude

1105
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 3: and he's just great to have around. Yes, you know,

1106
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: it's when he came in here, he was like, oh,

1107
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: this is ranchise quarterback. That's what it feels like. Like

1108
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: he was just a dude. So I think that's part

1109
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: of it. You know, Russ would probably have some of

1110
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: that as this was guy who's a super Bowl champion,

1111
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: that type of stuff. I don't know anybody who's been

1112
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: around him, whether it's in Seattle or and actually Tyvus

1113
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: was on the team in Seattle, I wondered he. I

1114
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: think he always speaks spoke Hyley. I mean, as he said,

1115
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: Russ was really good to him. I think Russ even

1116
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: took him to Thanksgiving if I remember right when he

1117
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: first got there, for sure. But that doesn't change who

1118
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: you are as a football doesn't change like, oh my gosh,

1119
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: now let's go track down the Ravens.

1120
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: Correct. And my whole point is with the Kenny Pickett

1121
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: thing is, and we certainly said it on this show, right,

1122
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: like Russ has to be better than Kenny Pickett, so

1123
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: they'll be more successful. Kenny Pickett in his last year

1124
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: as a starter was seven and five. Yeah, I don't

1125
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: know what Russ was there, but I'll pull it up

1126
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: right now. My guess is it was six and five.

1127
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean so, like, yeah, he threw more touchdowns, fewer interceptions,

1128
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: but nonetheless it wasn't a needle mover in any way,

1129
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: shape or form for them. So to me, you're saying, okay,

1130
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: trying to be like the most positive you could be

1131
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: about just about Kenny Pickett, because right now he's only

1132
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: quarterback on our roster, so we'll talk about him. It

1133
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: was widely agreed that the offensive coaching that was happening

1134
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh prior to the switch to Arthur Smith, which

1135
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 1: was just last year, was the worst in the league.

1136
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: Matt Canada was besieged. Yep, he was under siege constantly

1137
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: for the offense he run ran. So maybe with a

1138
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: better offense, and you're talking, you know, Covin Sefanski, Tommy Reese,

1139
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: that Kenny Pickett can be a better version of what

1140
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: he was there. By the way, seven and five, Russ

1141
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: was six and five, So that one again. You'll say, Okay,

1142
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: well he's been in the league, he's been successful, blah

1143
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Former you know, multiple time Pro

1144
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: Bowl or Super Bowl MVP. All of those things are

1145
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: true about Russell Wilson. It just feels like he was

1146
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: a Pro bowler last year. As a matter of fact,

1147
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: it feels far removed from him moving the needle. He'll

1148
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: be on his third team, you know, in four years,

1149
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: third team in three years, and his fourth team in

1150
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: five years. We're looking for solutions, and again I am

1151
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: not at all saying that Kenny Pickett is automatically that solution.

1152
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: But if that's if.

1153
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: It's that or that, I'd much rather just be like, Okay,

1154
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, I still hope we're drafting one

1155
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: of two and that's the solution. But if we're talking

1156
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: about right now what's known Kenny Pickett versus the names

1157
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: that are out there, I'd rather I might as well

1158
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: just go, let's just play Kenny Pickett.

1159
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Furthermore, I would I would be open to adding

1160
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: Trey Lance to the room. He was in a similar

1161
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: system and he's only twenty four. I know it was

1162
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: bad again bad, but I mean, sure it was somebody

1163
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: who the ball of Clay.

1164
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying when Dak went down, there were just like,

1165
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: we don't even want to we don't want to see it.

1166
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: We'd rather play Cooper Rush.

1167
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, but that what you're

1168
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: looking for is hope.

1169
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: For sure, Henny Pickett's at least one in this lead.

1170
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: He's one. Yeah, he's won, He's never I had a

1171
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: losing record. That's kind of the that's kind of the

1172
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: spot you're in right now.

1173
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: And I'd much rather see him than honestly, Aaron Rodgers.

1174
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Of course, you could convince me like, okay, it's Aaron Rodgers.

1175
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: And you know we heard was that Bob Shuzen was

1176
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: on here. I don't remember who was talking about the

1177
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Jets at that time, but had said that, you know,

1178
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: he's somethings he has it, Like okay, it's still like

1179
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: that's Aaron Rodgers.

1180
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: Yep.

1181
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: Otherwise, why not to me? Like why not? Why not?

1182
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? That's where that's.

1183
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: Where we're at, That's where we're at.

1184
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does seem that I am a little surprised that.

1185
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: I guess I shouldn't be, because you see the reporting

1186
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: today that Rogers is holding the Steelers captive a little

1187
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: bit like they're kind of you mentioned that that that

1188
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: feels like the one like once that happens, then Russ

1189
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 3: goes to the New York Giants and then but that

1190
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: doesn't preclude the Giants from taking a quarterback at three

1191
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: or trying to trade up to one if Tennessee is

1192
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: open to it, right at all?

1193
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Not one bit, no, But that's it.

1194
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: That's who's available Rogers, Winston Wilson, Mariota, Trey Lance, Drew Locke,

1195
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz, Joe Flacco. That is where you are on

1196
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: the quarterback carousel. Some of some re signings and movement

1197
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: from yesterday. DeAndre Hopkins or portly signed a one year

1198
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 3: deal with the Baltimore Ravens. The Bills and Joey Bosa

1199
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: agreed on a one year contract worth twelve point six million.

1200
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: There was a rumor that he was going to go

1201
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 3: to San Francisco and play with his brother, that that

1202
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: was maybe the case.

1203
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Nope, Oh, Peter has not happened with the Niners at

1204
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: all right now, not at all, not a little bit.

1205
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: So that was a slap in the face that they

1206
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: didn't get bost They didn't get him. It's took that

1207
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: very personally.

1208
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: Why would he Why would he take that person? Why

1209
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 3: slept to these saying they wouldn't take care.

1210
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: Of Nick rejected? Joey rejects. The forty nine ers is

1211
00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: how my dad's reading it.

1212
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: I would imagine that the forty nine ers had a

1213
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: number that they offered that was significantly less than the

1214
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: number that the Bills.

1215
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: Off They did not, I think for Mike Silver, I

1216
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: think I saw they were not above ten million a year.

1217
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: So okay, that's just math.

1218
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: Money works. So he goes to to Buffalo. The Bills

1219
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: are portally signing our old buddy Larry Ogunjobi as well

1220
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: one year eight point three. There, the Chiefs have restructured

1221
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: the contracts of Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones. That creates

1222
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: over fifty million, or just add fifty million of gap space.

1223
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: Justin Reid, I've always liked him, reportedly agreed on a

1224
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: three year contract with the Saints as well. They also

1225
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: kept Tyron Matthew around. So those are the safeties. Weren't

1226
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: those the starting safeties for the Chiefs for Super Bowl?

1227
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 3: Justin Reid and Tyron Matthew. Don't I have that right.

1228
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 3: It feels right because we been around that long. Yeah. Yeah,

1229
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: he's been there a while for sure, gotcha. Yeah, Leonard

1230
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: Floyd Are reportedly agreed to deal with the Atlanta Falcons

1231
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: one year for ten and then tomorrow Hamlin was Leonard

1232
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: Falcon that move on a one year extension. Also, Cooper

1233
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: Cup officially released. I was going to say, where does

1234
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: he end up? Well, I saw from Morelabsky he was

1235
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: like Patriots, Seahawks, there's one more out there. Yeah, like

1236
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: he'd be you know, but do you want to if

1237
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: you're him of Tennessee? Don't Why would he What the

1238
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: heck would you want to go to Tennessee for? I

1239
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: don't think you want to do that. But yeah, I

1240
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: mean Seattle would make sense with Darnold, with him and

1241
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jig, But he's a Washington State kid.

1242
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, it's a nice little grouping. Yeah, so

1243
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: that that would be kind of a return there.

1244
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: Safeties were actually on that team. The safeties that year

1245
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: were Honey Badger. In the year twenty nineteen, Thornhill and

1246
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: Juan Thornhill. When did Reid come in, he wasn't on

1247
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: the team yet. I feel like those two. Wasn't he

1248
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: in wasn't he on another team before?

1249
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: Eastern Washington by the way.

1250
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: For Texan? So he came to them in twenty two?

1251
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so he was a Texan.

1252
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: Oh maybe him and honey, Dad, You're played together in Houston?

1253
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: Is that possible? Let's see. So he was in Houston

1254
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: and then he has been there twenty eighteen. They would

1255
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: have played together in that first year in Houston on

1256
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: a steel trap steal trap. That's a good the good

1257
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Louisiana guys too. That's going home for both. Matthew's obviously

1258
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: been there, but both those guys going home now.

1259
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1260
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen. Reid was a rookie that year. Started twelve games,

1261
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: picked off three passes, ten passes, defense, played very well,

1262
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: eighty eight tackles.

1263
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: He went to Stanford Justin Reid.

1264
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sheez from Dutchtown, Louisiana.

1265
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: Dutchtown High School.

1266
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1267
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: How about that.

1268
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: His brother is Eric Reid, who played was a first

1269
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: round pick of the Niners back in twenty thirteen, the

1270
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: big safety out of LSU.

1271
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: Out of LSU.

1272
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was at a very nice pro career.

1273
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. So that's where we stand. I

1274
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 3: know they were related, did you no? That's a pretty

1275
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: pretty good, pretty good brothers, pretty good brotherly tandem there,

1276
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: all right. Coming up at the bottom of the hour,

1277
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: Benjamin Albright will join us. We'll get his perspective on

1278
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: what he's seen so far around the league. You vets

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna be in town for the MAC Tournament.

1291
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 4: I know, I'm kinda I'm bummed about it. My Alma

1292
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: Honor I think plays Akron tomorrow. I mean that it

1293
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: might be over five minutes in unless Eddie George comes

1294
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 4: out and plays for him.

1295
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: Well, he probably still could. There's it's pretty good. John

1296
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: Gross got a hummet at acre former Buckeye Illinois head coach,

1297
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: Iowa Ohio head coaches. Well, but like this is this

1298
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 3: is the whole thing. I get it.

1299
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: As a MAC coach, you do well and you have

1300
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 4: opportunities to go and move up the food chap. I

1301
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: don't know many opportunities that end well, and then when

1302
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 4: you come back it's just I mean, Gary Waters, you

1303
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 4: have to you know, I mean there have been a

1304
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 4: number of coaches.

1305
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: Who is the coach Stan Heath?

1306
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but he got a couple of jobs, right,

1307
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: stand correct?

1308
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: Who was the guy at o you that was a kent.

1309
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 5: Uh?

1310
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: Was Geno Ford? Gino Ford. Here's what you got to

1311
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: do when you're in that spot, and I see you

1312
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: see it a lot in college football too. When you're

1313
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: in that spot and you're in the ascending place, you

1314
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: have to make especially if it's solid, you have to

1315
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: make sure that the next spot is solid and you

1316
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: have to or you make sure that you get compensated.

1317
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: That's the deal. John Gross's entire I can do two

1318
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: minutes on this real quickly. John Gross's entire career at

1319
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: Illinois came down to in my view, and I think

1320
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: a lot of people in college, it came down to

1321
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 3: one signing. He was in his early time in Illinois.

1322
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: There was a Chicago high school kid who was a

1323
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 3: five star player who had a ton of talent. And

1324
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: I'll get to the name of this I can't remember

1325
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 3: the name of the top I hand. My guess is

1326
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 3: it'll come to me. But this was in his first year.

1327
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: We were actually over there for Ohio State Illinois football.

1328
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 3: I was over there in Champagne covering that and it

1329
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: was the signing of this kid, the Chicago schoolboy legend

1330
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 3: five stars between Illinois and Kansas, and the kid chose

1331
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: Kansas and kind of humiliated Illinois while choosing Kansas, and

1332
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: it felt like John Gross could not get a recruiting

1333
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 3: win from that point forward. And that's how critical momentum

1334
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: is now. John got paid very handsomely to take the

1335
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 3: Illinois job because he wanted Ohio to the Sweet sixteen.

1336
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: He was a thad mounded disciple and John's a great guy, awesome, yes,

1337
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: but like that did him in at Illinois. And then

1338
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: that started to peter out, and then he landed back here,

1339
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: back in the mac at Akron, but he got the

1340
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 3: money all cashed, so like he got that part of it.

1341
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 4: I don't get me wrong. I'm happy these guys are

1342
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 4: back because it just lends credibility to this conference, which

1343
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: you know, again, I think if the priority was more

1344
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 4: basketball than football, but I know football is king. But

1345
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 4: from a basketball standpoint, there was a time where this

1346
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 4: conference was automatically getting two bids every year and the

1347
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 4: fact that that doesn't happen anymore, and it doesn't happen

1348
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 4: for many mid majors is very disappointing. But that's the

1349
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: state of college hoops.

1350
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: The kid's name was Cliff Alexander. I remember he picked

1351
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: up an Illinois hat and then threw it down and

1352
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 3: then put on the Kansas hat. Yeah, and he was

1353
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 3: the best Illinois prospect since Aaron Eric Gordon And that's

1354
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: what happened. But it's one of those things with momentum.

1355
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: So like that's like John Diebler right now, Like he's

1356
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: got Marcus Johnson, the Garfield Heights kid, he's got him.

1357
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: But like Mechi's been a wall since December. Nothing. Nobody

1358
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 3: knows anything, Nobody knows what happened where he is nothing.

1359
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 3: Everyone's quiet on it, nothing from each nothing. Really, he's

1360
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: been away since December and they paid him handsomely to

1361
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 3: be on the team and he's gone. Beat writers don't

1362
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: know nothing. It's crazy. How does no one know? Well,

1363
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: I think people know, but nobody wants to talk about it.

1364
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: But it's a what I was getting to with Deebler

1365
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: and how critical, like any sort of run would be.

1366
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: They played tonight against Iowa on Peacock, not Big ten Network.

1367
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 3: Well that's on this that's what the money's for. NBC

1368
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: needed something to prop up their app and so they said, well,

1369
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 3: your games are going to go on Peacock. But there's

1370
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: been a ton of these that have been on Peacock.

1371
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 4: This is the conference shooting themselves on the floor. That's

1372
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 4: why I put it in the rundown. Go back to

1373
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 4: NFL Network and giving up Thursday night football like you're

1374
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: getting rid of your most valuable commodity. And I understand

1375
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 4: that there's a payday on it, but you're you are

1376
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 4: able to make money if you're selling it right and

1377
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: doing it right like Big ten Network. You're the home

1378
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 4: of the Big ten. And I can't watch any Big

1379
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: Ten Tournament games today because it's on Peacock.

1380
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 3: It's a pretty wild thing that they basically threw men's

1381
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: basketball in the Big Ten. Was a throw in, yeah,

1382
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: and so in order to get in order to get

1383
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 3: the payday for NBC Primetime Football Big Ten, this was

1384
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: part of the agreement like that today. I have no idea.

1385
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: Probably volleyball across. Maybe the women's tournament. Maybe I don't. Okay, No,

1386
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: the women's surnament was last weekend. It's done. Oh that's right, Yeah,

1387
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 3: it's done.

1388
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: It's just mystifying to me, like, what are you what

1389
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 4: are you airing you Iowa Ohio State?

1390
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 3: I tune in to night. Yeah, kind of a must

1391
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: win game for that is for sure. They lose their definitely,

1392
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: they're the last team in on the bubble.

1393
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about them.

1394
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 3: We need them to go on a little run. Oh,

1395
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: they blew it for us as big as can be. Yeah,

1396
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 3: I know, I mean we could have been a run.

1397
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: Would have by the way, that would have gotten you

1398
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: your fridayday, Thursday and Friday.

1399
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm if they had a little run, this

1400
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying.

1401
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: Geez, they led the whole way led the whole way.

1402
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: But it's critical for him because you've got the guys

1403
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 3: that I mentioned, Marcus Johnson, those guys. Uh, there's the

1404
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: Jerry Easter kid who's out of Toledo who's playing prep

1405
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: ball somewhere. There's a kid at Western Reserve who's a

1406
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: top ten player in the country. He was the guy

1407
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Mark visiting last week. We get Tom playing three and

1408
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: three basketball. Mark Pope was in the in the hallway

1409
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: the front like, oh, that's an attention getter Kentucky head

1410
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: coach and Hudson walking around town. But that's why because

1411
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 3: of the kid at Western Reserve. So that's the that's

1412
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: the momentum that can happen here. And goes back to

1413
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 3: your comment about the pack the Matt guys who go,

1414
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: you can go, but you may only get one shot

1415
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: at it. Yeah, so you got it. You got to

1416
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: hit on that spot. By the way, the two guys

1417
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 3: who preceded Deebler at Ohio State, Dad Mata, who is

1418
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 3: an absolute legend, great dude, spent a struggle at Butler.

1419
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were there.

1420
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: You guys went there.

1421
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they played him tough that night they played Yeah,

1422
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: but I mean, I.

1423
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: Mean that's another losing season. Yeah, I believe that. I

1424
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 3: think they had. He had a winning season year one

1425
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 3: and then two straight losing seasons for him at Butler.

1426
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: I have any talent and they have a kid on

1427
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: their team that's annoying.

1428
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 3: Do they just a silish kind of guy?

1429
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: Everything about was like I would have caught him huge game.

1430
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: He's like related and you were playing. He's related to

1431
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: one of the coaches.

1432
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 3: Wasn't that the Saint John's.

1433
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they played Saint John's.

1434
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but did Saint John's look like a squad not

1435
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 3: really college basketball?

1436
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.

1437
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 3: Well, his guy Cooper cups dude, Cooper flag mind because

1438
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 3: he got drown.

1439
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. The teams and this is like a total and

1440
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: I realized the rules are different and all that, and

1441
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: this is a total get off my lawn, like, oh

1442
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: my day. But it's true, like the teams of the

1443
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: nineties would smoke these teams like Saint John's number seven

1444
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 1: in the country. They would be they would it would

1445
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: be like they were a fifteen seed going against like

1446
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: those Duke Kentucky U n L V. Arizona teams. They

1447
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: would annihilate these teams.

1448
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: They were teams well, yeah, were veterans.

1449
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: Nobody can score the basketball, which is don't understand everybod

1450
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: in the Steph Curry generation. Nobody can score the basketball,

1451
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: shoot the bastball, at least in the games that that

1452
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: we watched.

1453
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, no it doesn't look the same. No, no,

1454
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 3: it's not.

1455
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: So you're talking about teams that would send their entire

1456
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: starting lineups to the NBA and then sometimes even like

1457
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: guys off their bench.

1458
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you have five. I mean, like

1459
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 3: I want to say that UNLV team had five first

1460
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: round picks on it with with Agman and and.

1461
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: Larry Anderson hunt and was the center the U don't

1462
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: know if he was the first rounder, but yeah, but

1463
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: they had Yeah, they had a bunch of them, Grant

1464
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: Hill and Latner, Yeah, yeah, some of those Thomas, Thomas Hill,

1465
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: Brian Davis.

1466
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 3: Thomas Hill, Brian Davis, a lot of talent, and there

1467
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: were teams. Yeah, and you got to know him over years.

1468
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 3: I mean you talk to guys in that sport now

1469
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: and it's like it's a it's a one year opposition.

1470
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: Like the team that people say, oh well, Ohio State

1471
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: will bring back Bruce Thornton and John Mobley, and they'll

1472
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 3: bring back Devin Royal and they'll add these guys. Oh

1473
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 3: you don't know that. You don't know that.

1474
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 4: Have you watched Okay, so I'll give you a little

1475
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 4: homework assignment. If you did not watch Danny Hurley on

1476
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 4: sixty minutes last weekend.

1477
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see the clip. I watched the whole thing.

1478
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 3: Number one, he's a lunatic. Yeah.

1479
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 4: Number two, like he said it, he goes, right now,

1480
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 4: I can tell you half of my team's entertaining offers

1481
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 4: to leave at the end of the year. Like right now,

1482
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 4: they're getting phone calls daily. He goes, I'm going to

1483
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: lose half of my roster.

1484
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 3: People who aren't in it every day like I am,

1485
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 3: that pay really close attention to what's going on in

1486
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 3: College of Athletics and has been the last five years.

1487
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 3: They are blown away by stuff like that, that that

1488
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 3: the reality of where the sport is. It's nuts like open, open, open,

1489
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: fruiting and open. While the city would be like if

1490
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: we could go to Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City and

1491
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 3: say Patrick, can we entice you with a half billion guaranteed?

1492
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, I think so, I'll be

1493
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: there next week that's it. Yeah, I'll play I'll play that.

1494
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 3: That's what's happening. Yeah, that's what's happening in college basketball

1495
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 3: and football. That's what happened with Jeremiah Smith after I

1496
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 3: State won the national title, like a week after. Oh yeah, Jeremiah,

1497
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 3: do you want five million to come play at Florida?

1498
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: It's wild he's making four yeah, yeah, but like do

1499
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 3: you want we can make it more and he's gonna

1500
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: ge another bite at that apple. He could do that

1501
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: again after after a sophomore year. So that's what's happening.

1502
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 3: Imagine for a second NFL team's being able to call

1503
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes and saying, we'll pay you more, come here.

1504
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: And if he was on a year, not even a

1505
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 3: one year, not even a contract, because in the middle

1506
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 3: of a season they can leave, he just bounce. I'll

1507
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 3: see you on down the road. Man. There's a there's

1508
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: a safety at Wisconsin who they would not release, who

1509
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: just left school and enroll at the University of Miami

1510
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: because there was an NIL disagreement over what him not

1511
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 3: take not living up to his end of the bargain

1512
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Speaker 3: in NIL. So he just left the University of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: went to Miami. He's going to play football for Miami now,

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Speaker 3: no consequence. That's where we're at. Ben Albright on NFL

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Speaker 3: KOA in Denver, hosts a show out there as well. Well,

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Speaker 3: he's our great friend, Benjamin Albright, and he joins us there. Benjamin,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for taking the time. If you

1527
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: were a couple of days into this new league year

1528
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 3: and an hour and a half. What has been kind

1529
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: of the theme that has been caught your attention most

1530
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: about what happened so far in free agency?

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01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 5: Well, I think teams were put off by both the

1532
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 5: free agent market and by this coming draft and spent

1533
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 5: a lot of effort in capital and maybe securing their

1534
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 5: own guys in situations where they might have explored the

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 5: market a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised by kind of the quarterback situation and

1537
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: the fact that we all thought, at least we did

1538
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: going into this that Aaron Rodgers was going to be

1539
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: the first domino to fall? He's still out there obviously

1540
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: the first domino. Sam Darnold, what do you kind of

1541
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: make of Aaron Rodgers's decision and where he ends up?

1542
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that domino in and of itself, I think

1543
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 5: is limited to just a pair of teams, and you know,

1544
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 5: it does create some some down trace for a couple

1545
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 5: of other players a couple of teams, but you know

1546
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 5: that's that's really a Pittsburgh or New York Giants situation

1547
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 5: at this point. I think the lean is Pittsburgh. See

1548
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 5: see how that works out. But uh, you know, it

1549
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 5: changes things for potentially Russell Wilson, you know, who would

1550
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 5: would likely be the Giants pack up plan as they

1551
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 5: try to do that and try to trade to one

1552
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,520
Speaker 5: the Tennessee Titans, who have sort of tried to quietly

1553
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 5: inquire about Russell Wilson is a is a bridge guy.

1554
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 3: As well.

1555
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 5: You know, we'll we'll see how all that works out.

1556
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 5: And then of course weeding in the wings. You've got

1557
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 5: the Kirk Cousins release from Atlanta that while they're playing

1558
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 5: hardball right now saying they're not going to do it,

1559
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 5: I think everybody expects them to do it eventually.

1560
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 3: So everybody keeps saying that with Cousins, but obviously they're

1561
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: paying him anyway. If they're a team that's a is

1562
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 3: he that much of a malcin? Are they worried that

1563
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 3: he will be just negative on Pennix or is it

1564
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: just doing a guy a solid who they gave it

1565
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 3: did a solid by giving him a bunch of money.

1566
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 3: Explain to us how the Cousins thing could happen and

1567
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,919
Speaker 3: how it makes sense from Atlanta's perspective.

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01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I don't know that he's that much

1569
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 5: of a malcontent. It certainly belongs to the business Hall

1570
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 5: of Fame and say in terms of getting the bag,

1571
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 5: But to me, it's like a respect thing to players.

1572
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 5: You don't hold players hostage. The last thing you want

1573
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 5: to do is become a team that gets that reputation,

1574
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 5: because then free agents aren't going to take a chance

1575
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 5: on you. Anyway, they'll go other places, especially if you've

1576
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 5: got a bad reputation for you know, for for holding

1577
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 5: guys hostage, not whether to finish out their careers or

1578
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 5: whatever else. Atlanta got themselves into this mess by paying

1579
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 5: all that money to Kirk Cousins without having full medicals

1580
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 5: to begin with, and that's that's their own fault, and

1581
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 5: they had to pivot to Panics. Yes, we saw what

1582
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 5: happened during the season everything else, So you know, I mean,

1583
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 5: Atlanta got themselves into this mess. I don't think they

1584
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 5: have I mean, yeah, they've got a player of the

1585
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 5: contract and they could do.

1586
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: That, but what are they gained by that?

1587
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 5: What do you gain by keeping Kirk Cousins there in

1588
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 5: that role where you know, he obviously doesn't want to

1589
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 5: be So I think it's just I think it's just

1590
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 5: bad juju for for the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Steve Entertain That so interesting because I totally understand the

1592
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: point that you're making. At the same time, like, if

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01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: somebody was paying me forty million dollars, I don't think

1594
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: that I would consider myself a hostage of theirs. That

1595
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: would be I think quite I think I would be

1596
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: quite content, actually, especially it was to play football. Uh

1597
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: so that's one of the dominoes out there. Let's talk

1598
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: about the Browns. Can he Pickett trade? I don't think

1599
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: anybody's saying that that move was made to be the future.

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01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,839
Speaker 1: But what do you think you know of what the Browns?

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 6: What? What?

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01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: How do you expect this to play out for this

1603
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: this franchise at the quarterback position?

1604
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 5: Well, look, no football throws a better quarterback than Kenny Pickett.

1605
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 5: And if you've seen that play, you know what I'm

1606
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 5: talking about. But uh, I know Canny pick At ads

1607
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 5: to the room and he does add to the room.

1608
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 5: But that's not the only swipes that the Browns are

1609
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 5: are gonna do. They're gonna they're gonna be taking another

1610
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 5: swipe here. So you know, we'll we'll, we'll see. There's

1611
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 5: again the Cousins thing out there. I initially didn't think

1612
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 5: that they would, but you know, if he comes free,

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01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 5: they would very much be in that. There are there

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01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 5: are some other you know quarterbacks out there to add

1615
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 5: to the mix for competition that could they could provide.

1616
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 5: They could provide competition there as well. They're not done swinging.

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01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, you and I talked a

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01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 5: little bit of the combine talked about the draft. I

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01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 5: still don't one hundred percent believe that that's the direction

1620
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 5: they're going there. And I think there's sort of a

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 5: reality that cam Ward is going to go number one,

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01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 5: whether that's the Titans or Giants, and so I think

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01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 5: that I think they sort of know that, and I'm

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01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 5: not sure Schador is their guy. So you know, we'll

1625
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 5: have to see on that. You know, been robalfore, I'll

1626
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 5: be wrong again, but I just don't get the pulse

1627
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 5: that's the direction they would go there. So I think

1628
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 5: they're looking for a veteran guy with upside and then

1629
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 5: you know, potentially hitting the draft next year where you've

1630
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 5: got quite a few more options.

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Speaker 3: Just to update folks, Charles Robinson reporting this. We've got

1632
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: Charles on before Ben, I know you know him as well.

1633
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: I thought the Falcons were bluffing about keeping Kirk Cousins.

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01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that anymore. They're going to roll right

1635
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: through Sunday's deadline and knock in another ten million in

1636
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six guaranteed salary and see where this goes.

1637
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: Either he's a pricey backup or a trade candidate. Doctor.

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01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's them posturing. I mean, they have to pay

1639
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 5: the money either way. So the reality there is that

1640
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 5: doesn't actually affect anything. That's just imposturing on trying to

1641
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 5: get a trade for him, which nobody's gonna do, instead

1642
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 5: of having to outright release him later.

1643
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: And they're gonna Part of me just thinks that if

1644
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm the owner and I'm saying we're paying them this money, yeah,

1645
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: I like them to at least be here in the

1646
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: event that Michael Pennix, who has an injury history, gets hurt.

1647
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: But back to what you're saying about cam Ward, and

1648
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 1: I think when we were at the combine together, you

1649
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: were you certainly thought it was very possible that the

1650
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: Giants would go from three to one to get cam

1651
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: Ward or maybe even should or Sanders at the time.

1652
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: Now it sounds like you're thinking cam Ward goes number

1653
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: one no matter what. So two things. One, do you

1654
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: think it's more likely now that the Titans take a

1655
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: quarterback at one and just stay there? And two do

1656
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: you think if they're not taking a quarterback at one?

1657
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: You know, would the Browns be a team that would

1658
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: go to one?

1659
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think that, or I know that

1660
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 5: they and the Giants have had discussions about three to one,

1661
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 5: you know, and that was that was certainly something that

1662
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 5: the Giants felt that they were very very in the ballpark.

1663
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 5: On the wrench in that works here would be if

1664
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 5: the Browns weren't taking Shadure. And that would sort of

1665
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 5: throw a wrench in those plants, because if the Titans

1666
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 5: go back to three, you know, obviously they love Abdul Carter,

1667
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 5: they'd love to land Abdult Carter. And then if you're

1668
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 5: if you're worried that the Browns aren't taking you know, Shadur, well,

1669
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, they could be the team

1670
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 5: there that takes Carter. Your drop back to three could

1671
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 5: be a bad move, and now you have to stay

1672
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 5: at one.

1673
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 6: That kind of stuff.

1674
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 5: So, you know, I still believe that that trade. I

1675
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 5: believe that trade is going to happen.

1676
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: You know, I don't. I don't want to.

1677
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 5: I hate putting percentages on it because that's arbitrary. But

1678
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 5: I do believe that trade is going to happen. I

1679
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 5: do believe the Giants are going to go up there.

1680
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna wind up with Russell Wilson. I

1681
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 5: think they're go lose out on Aaron Rodgers. I think

1682
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 5: they're gonna wind up Russell Wilson and trade up to

1683
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 5: one for camp Ward.

1684
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: All right, Ben, I want to ask you about you

1685
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: mentioned Shador and when we had you on at the combine.

1686
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: You were in the airport, I believe, and so we

1687
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: were having a conversation with as you were kind of

1688
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 3: matriculating through the airport heading into the combine. There was

1689
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: very if you looked at the rankings of everybody in

1690
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks, and there was Melchi had him, three and

1691
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: four other people had him, but it was they were

1692
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 3: relatively close between Cam and Shudur, and I think even

1693
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 3: going into the combine, Cam was the guy that most

1694
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: viewed ahead of Shadur. But it wasn't like the difference

1695
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 3: between a first rounder and a third rounder. Shadur has

1696
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 3: done nothing physically since playing his last game at Colorado,

1697
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: So what is causing this around him? You were in

1698
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 3: the vicinity of him in Denver versus Boulder. What can

1699
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: you tell us about your belief as to why there

1700
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: is such a level of Well, now he's not even

1701
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 3: a second now, he's not a first round pick at all, Like,

1702
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 3: where's this all coming from?

1703
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, first of all, I don't I don't

1704
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 5: necessarily believe he's not first round pick. But I'll say this,

1705
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 5: I think that it's not that Shudure changes, it's that

1706
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 5: public perception changes.

1707
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1708
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 5: Our perspective changes as we get more information, and so

1709
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 5: I think it is more in more people get more

1710
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 5: information from people they trust as sources, they tend to

1711
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 5: lower him. That collective things starts to lower and our

1712
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 5: perspective changes on where it.

1713
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 3: Is that he's going to go.

1714
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 5: Obviously has played so that that doesn't change anything. He

1715
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 5: his resume hasn't changed. So you know, in that particular case,

1716
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 5: if someone's on the move, it's one of two things,

1717
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 5: either their resume change or our perspective changed. In this

1718
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 5: particular case, it's obviously our perspectives.

1719
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: When we were there at the combine and we were talking,

1720
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: you had mentioned how the Giants were in Boulder constantly.

1721
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that there is still are there as

1722
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: there may be some smoke that maybe they do like

1723
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Speaker 1: Shador but they're trying to play it the other way

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01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: some teams are doing that, or do you think things

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: have changed so much it just it just seems odd,

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01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: and how the timing of things changs, and I definitely

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01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. People get the combine, they get

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01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: the temperature from you know, quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators

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01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: and insiders around the league, and that changes how you

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: actually then would go back into your ratings, which are

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: based typically on the tape without all that inform. What

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01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: do you make of the Giants? Because I know when

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01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: we were there, you thought for a while that the

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01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 1: Giants were very much in on Shador. Is has something

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01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: changed in that regard?

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Speaker 5: You know, I mean, unless they're throwing a smoke screen here,

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01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 5: they were out here at every game, So that is

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01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 5: one of those things that's it's sort of a history

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01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 5: where they they lavished, praised on Shador every time we

1740
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 5: you know, we talked to when they were out here.

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01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 5: They didn't seem to indicate you know, it wasn't seeming

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 5: to indicate interest in Travis. So you know that that

1743
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 5: seemed to lead us all to believe that they very

1744
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 5: much loved Shad or Sanders. I don't know that anything

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01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 5: has changed. Maybe that was a smoke screen. Maybe they

1746
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 5: knew they were going to be, you know, in that mix,

1747
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 5: and we're trying to throw things up. I don't know

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01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 5: the answer to that. I just know that people have

1749
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 5: talked to, you know recently, is this, you know, at

1750
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 5: the combine they're having some dinners and then UH talked

1751
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 5: to recently really feels like they're going to one for

1752
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 5: cam Ward and so you know that maybe that's the

1753
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 5: smoke screen, but you know, because of everybody knowing about

1754
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 5: how much they came out and looked at door. But

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01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that. M'd be speculating,

1756
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 5: but it is certainly interesting that they're sort of a

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01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 5: shift there.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: One thing that Brown's fans are really focus on and

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01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: they hope what you know, be certainly would be received

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01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: as very very good news is about Nick Chubb. Have

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01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: you heard anything about Nick Chubb's free agency thus far

1763
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: or where he might end up?

1764
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 6: I have not.

1765
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 5: The only thing I know is that there were a

1766
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 5: couple of teams that maybe initially might have had some

1767
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 5: interest that maybe don't. I think his market's going to

1768
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 5: be softer than people think. I don't know if that

1769
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 5: means a return to Cleveland or not, or any anything

1770
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 5: like that, but his market, in terms of what I

1771
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 5: think he expected it to be, is is allegedly softer

1772
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:44,440
Speaker 5: than what he had anticipated.

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01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 3: All right, there you go, good stuff as always, buddy,

1774
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 3: appreciate your time, absolutely, take care. All right, there he

1775
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 3: goes Benjamin Albright NFL in sider Broncs report of KOA

1776
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: in Denver on the twisty outline pers into a twisty

1777
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 3: hard it's the official sponsor for Cleveland Brown. Keep it twisted, Cleveland.

1778
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: Charles Robinson. I don't know him as someone who teams

1779
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 3: used to manipulate. No, so that's not his act. So

1780
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 3: when he's reporting something, I don't believe that that's a

1781
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 3: team saying hey, will you put this out? That's not

1782
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: his style. So he doubled down on his previous report,

1783
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 3: just to catch you up on it if you missed it.

1784
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 3: When it's broke in last ten minutes, he right, he wrote,

1785
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: I thought the Falcons were bluffing about keeping Kirk Cousins.

1786
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that anymore. They're going to roll right

1787
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 3: through the Sunday deadline to lock in another ten million

1788
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six guaranteed salary. See where this goes.

1789
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 3: Either he's a pricey backup or a trade candidate. Will

1790
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 3: he doubled down? This is definitely going to squeeze some

1791
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 3: teams a little with the quarterback market. Unless some rookies

1792
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 3: are going to start day one, there will not be

1793
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: enough veteran twenty twenty four starters to go around as

1794
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 3: bridge options anymore, which is likely why the Falcons are

1795
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 3: going to hold on to Cousins as an asset. Again,

1796
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: you guys have talked to Charles more than I have,

1797
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 3: But in my experience on this show and others dealing

1798
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 3: with them, I think I have the right read. He's

1799
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: not somebody that puts stuff out there for an owner

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01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: or an agent. He puts stuff out there that he

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01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 3: believes and agreed.

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01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: And that's also how Adam Schefter does it. And my

1803
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: thing that the crazy that not crazy. The interesting thing

1804
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: to me about the timing with the Adam Schefter thing

1805
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: is what could possibly have changed from the combine where

1806
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: he was adamant we were taking quarterback at too till

1807
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: now other than we got Kenny Pickett.

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 3: That that ain't it? Yeah?

1809
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 6: So was it?

1810
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes? I think maybe was that he'd had proper information

1811
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 1: beginning they're like, hey, man, like that wasn't cool that

1812
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: you said that?

1813
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: Maybe or maybe he thought that we were in on

1814
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 3: something else with quarterbacks that didn't come to fruition. You know,

1815
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 3: we were our name was not out there on any

1816
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: of these guys. I have not seen us link to

1817
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 3: a single quarterback. No, to be fair, we weren't looked

1818
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 3: to Kenny Pickett until we acquired Kenny Pickett. Correct. So

1819
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 3: there's that. But like you hear these other teams linked

1820
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 3: we are, we are not correct. But for all of

1821
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: this talk about and you and I've been pretty consistent

1822
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 3: about this. With with the Cousins stuff, was like, jeez,

1823
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 3: r Arthur Blank, and you paid this guy, and you

1824
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 3: got a team in a division that you feel you

1825
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 3: can compete with. You're going with a second year quarterback

1826
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 3: who started a handful of games, who has had significant

1827
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: injury historically. Why you're paying Cousins anyway? Why wouldn't I

1828
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 3: keep him around? That's my logic.

1829
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's bad juju to, you know, hold a

1830
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: guy hostage for dollars. He's not being held hostage. He's

1831
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: been giving forty million dollars to play for and they

1832
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: could need him. I mean, Pennix has gotten hurt in

1833
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: his career. That to me is that's a very wild things.

1834
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: That's a very wild thing. Do you think that we

1835
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: will have another quarterback in this room by the weekend,

1836
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, So to say the reality of

1837
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: the situation is, and I'm again you know, you'll always

1838
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: look for the positives and whatever whoever ultimately becomes, but

1839
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 1: there is if there was somebody out there that was

1840
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: a panacea, they'd either be here or somewhere else already. Yeah,

1841
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's a reality they could they become. Now,

1842
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is more likely to become something like that

1843
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: than any of the guys that are out there, because

1844
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: the guys that are out there still at this point,

1845
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: you know, Carson Wentz is a little long in the

1846
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: tooth for to be kind of a reclamat like, yeah,

1847
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: he's had multiple reclamation attempts. Now, maybe I have no idea.

1848
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: As we said twenty seven touch.

1849
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 3: On some Gino Smith was one that was off the grid,

1850
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 3: and then.

1851
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: That was a while ago. It was you know, Minshew

1852
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: Flacco is gosh, we love them. It was a magical,

1853
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: but at some point it may have just been magic

1854
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 1: in that bubble. I mean he did the russ. Aaron

1855
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers Rogers is the one that probably still feels like

1856
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: the most talented to me, but you know there's a

1857
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: lot that comes with that too. Yeah, and he unfortunately

1858
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: has not moved the needle. Did not for the.

1859
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 3: Jets, you know, I mean we all thought, oh, I

1860
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: mean I think I picked him to win the division.

1861
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 3: They had to be super Bowl the year before the injury,

1862
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 3: the year going into it when they had acquired him, Like,

1863
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 3: who knows what happens if he doesn't tear his achilles

1864
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 3: right away? Like, because they were set up, that's a

1865
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 3: great roster. They were so chesty you, I mean, they

1866
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 3: were on hard knocks like it was come watch us.

1867
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,560
Speaker 3: They had everything that you wanted. You remember him apologizing

1868
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: to Garrett Wilson, Sorry kid, Yeah, Like that's that's what

1869
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 3: flipped with the with the shredding of that achilles. I

1870
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: had so much more to come. You listen to Clear

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Speaker 3: Pat on the X. What about trading for Malik Willis

1876
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 3: The lake looked good last year. That's another one a

1877
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 3: apple hope things.

1878
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Speaker 1: Yeah him, it's the kid we remember we had him

1879
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,759
Speaker 1: here for a thirty visit. Joe Milton.

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01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Michigan kid who went to Tennessee and then

1881
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 3: was in New England.

1882
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again people are like, it was so good

1883
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: in that the Bills were not trying to win that game.

1884
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: That was not the Buffalo Bills.

1885
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Milton. Nonetheless, his his issues were accuracy. Yep,

1886
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 3: huge hose, but it's it was accuracy stuff that he does. Man,

1887
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 3: have you seen him?

1888
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: He can really girls that sucker it goes. Yeah, there's

1889
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: no doubt you can throw like eighty yards. Yeah, it's

1890
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: a big hose canon. But underneath the accuracy stuff was trouble.

1891
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: That was trouble at Michigan. That was trouble at Tennessee.

1892
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah for him.

1893
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 3: So but he did look good, did look good there.

1894
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, those are the guys is you're looking for, hope.

1895
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 3: You look for bites at the apple, and you need

1896
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 3: as many bites as you can get at it, because

1897
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 3: as you went through yesterday, it's pretty simple on how

1898
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 3: to acquire a quarterback. They better have been a first

1899
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: round pick. A few outliers out there, but not many.

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Speaker 3: All right, there you go, that'll do it. Next levels

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Speaker 3: coming up next. Thanks for listening body Cleveland Browns Daily,

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