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Speaker 1: into it, Ohoe, the Dolphins go to the Metallands Medal
Speaker 1: Lands go to Mett Stadium and beat the jetz thirty
Speaker 1: four to thirteen to a twenty one to thirty two
Speaker 1: forty three, one touchdown, two picks in the fumble to
Speaker 1: a now has five turnovers in his last two games.
Speaker 1: Yeah three today two against the Raiders reap nine catches
Speaker 1: a bucko to a touchdown. He now has thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty four yards on the season with six games left.
Speaker 1: He needs to average one hundred and thirteen yards per
Speaker 1: game to get to set the record. What does he
Speaker 1: need to go over two k? What does he need
Speaker 1: to average? The go over two k? Okay to go
Speaker 1: over two k? So he needs six hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: six yards to reach two thousand.
Speaker 2: That's definitely possible. That definitely possible, because would he need to.
Speaker 1: Have one of that big game o shoe. He needs
Speaker 1: to have that.
Speaker 3: Game game Yeah, yep. And now he can cruise the
Speaker 3: rest of the way. He can cruise the rest of
Speaker 3: the way, yep.
Speaker 1: Javon Holland, The Jets get right back in this thing
Speaker 1: with a pick six of their own six and then
Speaker 1: look like they're driving and then a hail Mary. Javon
Speaker 1: Holland picks for a hail Mary e l al Mary
Speaker 1: and runs it back ninety nine yards. Another low point
Speaker 1: for the Jets because not only did they miss the
Speaker 1: pat tafter they got their pick six. Now you turn
Speaker 1: around and get another interception, and you turn around and
Speaker 1: give it right back to the to the dolphin Offhense show.
Speaker 1: Another low light for the Jets on Thanksgiving. Remember o Joe,
Speaker 1: the bus bumble happened on Thanksgiving twelve. Mark the Jets
Speaker 1: like damn, like Florida Evans, Damn.
Speaker 3: Damn, damn, just can't get right. And again, I have
Speaker 3: a question for you. Obviously to me, you know, I've
Speaker 3: been in huge support of Zach Wilson. You know ever
Speaker 3: since Aaron Rodgers went down and understanding the makeup and
Speaker 3: the DNA of what of what Aaron Rodgers had to
Speaker 3: work with, it wasn't going to be that at what
Speaker 3: we thought. It was just the simple fact that Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers is there with the Jets. We thought, oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: all problems will be fixed, and you know, we're gonna
Speaker 3: make a Super Bowl run. But you understand the landscape
Speaker 3: of the team in general, the landscape of the offensive
Speaker 3: line regards to who you put at the hammgars to
Speaker 3: who you put back there, you know, to run it's
Speaker 3: just not going to be efficient. You know, we all
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of people, a lot of fans.
Speaker 3: I kept rooting for Zack for the simple fact that
Speaker 3: the reason is it's nothing for him to work with.
Speaker 3: It's nothing for him to work with. But they have
Speaker 3: a great receiver, great receivers. They have really really good receivers,
Speaker 3: especially Garrett Wilson and Allen Las Yet. But as far
Speaker 3: as everything else, in order for that offense to work,
Speaker 3: they have to have a foundation, a good foundation.
Speaker 1: It all starts up front. It all starts up front.
Speaker 3: So the gards to who you put back there, these
Speaker 3: are the results you're gonna get week in and week out,
Speaker 3: no matter who it is.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is ojo. When you're dealing with
Speaker 1: a quarterback like an Aaron Rodgers, he knows where to
Speaker 1: go with the football. So you're gonna probably get better results.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna be undefeated. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say you're gonna have one or two wins because I
Speaker 1: your prime example. Look at the Kansas City Chiefs with
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. They're in the playoffs. Every year they get
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, they go to an entirely different level. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the Jets are gonna all of
Speaker 1: a sudden be you know, have one loss, one two losses,
Speaker 1: But I think the mindset changes when you got a
Speaker 1: historically and a pantheon great quarterback from the center. Now
Speaker 1: you no longer hope to win. You expect to win.
Speaker 1: Now you see that defense ball out longer and harder
Speaker 1: because they know every opportunity to give Aaron Rodgers, he's
Speaker 1: probably going to cash it in or at least have
Speaker 1: a better situation than what they're showing right now. So
Speaker 1: I agree with it. It's not the cupboard is it's
Speaker 1: not burst bursting with talent. It's not right. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned Alan Bazzard. You do realize he was a healthy
Speaker 1: scratch today, right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he was. He was.
Speaker 2: He was out of day. You think he was healthy.
Speaker 2: You think he was healthy.
Speaker 1: They said they healthy scratch. So tell the people at
Speaker 1: home that don't understand football league, go, like you and I,
Speaker 1: what does healthy scratch mean? Now?
Speaker 3: This is a good one. This is a good one
Speaker 3: for me because listen, I played for a very long
Speaker 3: time as did you. And this is the first time
Speaker 3: I've ever heard of actually a healthy scratch means this
Speaker 3: must have been something that something internal, that that must
Speaker 3: have happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not playing well, that's what's internal. In ten games,
Speaker 1: he had twenty catches, two hundred and ninet yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown and they're playing in forty four, playing them
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars a year. That's what's internal. That's what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, so he's I doubt he's a healthy
Speaker 3: scratch because because of that, because.
Speaker 1: I'm just going on television said, I'm just going about
Speaker 1: what the report said.
Speaker 2: I I don't think they know what they talking about.
Speaker 3: I don't think they know somebody they They're definitely not
Speaker 3: gonna use Lazard as No goddamn skategoat.
Speaker 1: Is a healthy scratch versus the Dolphins. Yeah, at NFL
Speaker 1: dot Com says al Zar is a healthy scratch against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Okay, you're gonna run out of the fuston
Speaker 1: for the receivers now, making no excuse you. How are
Speaker 1: you going?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, First, the offensive line plays bad, trying
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: We passed, No, we passed that. We're talking about Alan
Speaker 1: Lazard being a healthy scratch, don't go back to your
Speaker 1: office line him. So wait a minute.
Speaker 3: In order for an order for him to get to
Speaker 3: get the balls to be productive, what else does he need?
Speaker 1: So? Why is it? Why isn't Garrett Wilson a healthy scratch?
Speaker 1: Why isn't Conkling healthy scratch? Who said?
Speaker 2: Who said that was the reason he's a healthy scratch?
Speaker 1: NFL dot com is reporting that Alan Lazard is a
Speaker 1: healthy scratch?
Speaker 2: Why is he a healthy scratches? What I was asking?
Speaker 1: I said something? I said something to catches the game,
Speaker 1: and he's making eleven million dollars a year for you.
Speaker 3: So so you blaming him for that? You blaming lizard
Speaker 3: for the for the Wait a minute, you can't be
Speaker 3: serious right now? Are you blaming lizard for the opportunities
Speaker 3: that he's caught that have come his way?
Speaker 1: I'm asking you if he's a why isn't Garrett Wilson
Speaker 1: that health.
Speaker 3: We don't we don't know why he's a healthy We
Speaker 3: don't know why Alan Lozard is a healthy scratch.
Speaker 1: We don't know. I said it was something. You're seven
Speaker 1: years half brothers. Hold on, the twenty seven year old
Speaker 1: struggles to create separation has four drops. His nine point
Speaker 1: eight drop percentage is second worst among all receivers with
Speaker 1: at least thirty targets. Let's try again. Now, go ahead,
Speaker 1: take off.
Speaker 3: So wait a minute. So he's the only motherfucker excuse me.
Speaker 3: I ain't mean to curse God, forgive me.
Speaker 1: We're talking about him. Don't talk about everybody else, redeceiver.
Speaker 3: That is no reason for nobody to be a healthy scrats,
Speaker 3: because I can bring up stats for everybody dropping balls.
Speaker 1: I can do the same thing, Ojoe.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm just saying that's not a reason why
Speaker 2: he's a healthy scratch.
Speaker 1: That makes no sense. What you mean to do with
Speaker 1: no sense? So okay, tell me what don't make no
Speaker 1: sense you talking about, Oh, he's a healthy scratch because
Speaker 1: he dropped goddamn ball. Who the fuck don't he's not
Speaker 1: playing well? O Joe? What can't some excess up? It's
Speaker 1: a bunch of receivers, not o jo o jo? See
Speaker 1: what you try to do? So about what this guy dropped?
Speaker 1: All you're not talking about everybody else. Let's do that.
Speaker 1: It don't matter.
Speaker 3: What they're trying to do is find a goddamn excuse
Speaker 3: in trying to find a goddamn escapegoat by making him
Speaker 3: healthy scratch, And it ain't for the motherfucking work.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work. It already worked because they saw
Speaker 1: it didn't work. It ain't for the work.
Speaker 3: They think they slick, they think the way that business
Speaker 3: is running. Some guy dare it's a bunch of bullshit. First,
Speaker 3: it's it's a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Randall Cobb, I think he was active today,
Speaker 1: but he was in active the last two weeks. And
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb and Lazard, Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers request
Speaker 1: they're making fifteen million and they haven't gotten the production
Speaker 1: that they thought they were gonna get. There have been
Speaker 1: other receivers that's playing with bad quarterbacks, that doesn't drop
Speaker 1: ten percent of the passes, that has more than twenty
Speaker 1: catches in ten games. So stop trying this.
Speaker 3: You are we talking about the same Jess offense that
Speaker 3: we've been seeing for the past ten weeks, that same
Speaker 3: offense that can't throw goddamn ball down the field anything
Speaker 3: past five yards.
Speaker 1: Hold on Jess offense were talking about, Yes, the Jess
Speaker 1: offense we talk about.
Speaker 3: Off James Zach Wilson for every goddamn thing, and he
Speaker 3: running for us life every time he dropped back that.
Speaker 1: Goddamn Jess offense.
Speaker 2: I don't even expect the receivers to produce if they
Speaker 2: can't even get the.
Speaker 1: Goddamn balloff the same Jeffs office that you told me
Speaker 1: last the last two weeks that Ellen Lazar dropped two
Speaker 1: bit of passes. He gotta make those players, and you
Speaker 1: know that he will, and if he gives another opportunity.
Speaker 3: That's what they what they're doing. What they're doing. They
Speaker 3: think they slick over what you think they slick. They
Speaker 3: think they slick over in the r trying to use
Speaker 3: him at the skateboard show. He's making, he's making the
Speaker 3: money he's making based on what he's been able to do.
Speaker 3: But now he's at a ship show and he can't
Speaker 3: produce like he should, and now you're gonna have him
Speaker 3: a healthy scratch and try to put the goddamn onus
Speaker 3: on him.
Speaker 2: That's the bullshit.
Speaker 1: So he's so he's the only one that's playing with
Speaker 1: a poor quarterback and the poor offensive line that's not producing.
Speaker 1: Who else? Who else? I don't know who else? You
Speaker 1: told you the one that's out here killing the pubicle.
Speaker 1: Let's look at the list, look at the landscape for
Speaker 1: the TA. Who else is that? Who else is that?
Speaker 1: Is that? You're telling me? So I want you to
Speaker 1: name the players? That's your argument. I didn't make an
Speaker 1: argument that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm asking you the question.
Speaker 1: You see, see, I'm not going to you're wait a minute,
Speaker 1: listen to me, now, I stay with me, baby.
Speaker 2: It's thirty two teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yes, I ain't heard of a healthy scratch, and I
Speaker 3: don't know how long as long as I played, I
Speaker 3: never heard of having a healthy scratch because they weren't producing.
Speaker 1: Never heard of ever before virtue all of.
Speaker 3: A sudden, Oh now he's not living up to his expectation.
Speaker 3: He's a healthy scratch. You know what it sounds like
Speaker 3: to me. I know what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 1: You know what. Well, we're gonna blame. Why Why was it? Why?
Speaker 2: Why didn't they make Zach Wilson a healthy scratch?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks? The number three? He's the number three? All right,
Speaker 1: number three?
Speaker 2: Here we go, here we go? All right? Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: But you want you want the people at home to
Speaker 1: believe that in your eleven twelve year NFL career that
Speaker 1: you've never heard of a healthy scratch that somebody that
Speaker 1: was playing well, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Hold on, Joe, hold on with my mayor things Feller,
Speaker 3: hold on, God damnit, my bad baby, I'm coming.
Speaker 1: Hold on, go ahead, maybe just waling because you damn
Speaker 1: sure we're listening, all right there, go right there?
Speaker 2: Okay, I got I got I got it, I got it, shorty.
Speaker 1: Sorry boy. That So you want the people that's listening
Speaker 1: to us now or watching us now just believe in
Speaker 1: your eleven twelve year career. Thirteen I've never heard thirteen
Speaker 1: year career that you never heard of a player that
Speaker 1: wasn't playing the way the team thought he would should
Speaker 1: and be scratched from the ball game. You've never heard
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, not absolutely, And I wouldn't say hell lot to you, baby.
Speaker 1: You know I wouldn't lie to you.
Speaker 3: I know I play around a lot, but you could
Speaker 3: see how passionate aim about this goddamn topic.
Speaker 1: So you know I'm not playing around.
Speaker 3: Listen, Alan Lazard, Cob Garrett Wilson give you your best
Speaker 3: chance to win regards to what they have offensively a receiver,
Speaker 3: they give you your best chance to win shit is
Speaker 3: already bad. So you take one of the best that
Speaker 3: had been very let me finish that have been very
Speaker 3: productive throughout their career to this point, that was brought
Speaker 3: over at the request of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got hurt.
Speaker 3: So you mean to tell me one of the best
Speaker 3: that had been productive with Aaron Rodgers all of a
Speaker 3: sudden comes over and he's not playing the part because
Speaker 3: the entire offense in itself ain't doing a goddamn thing.
Speaker 3: But he's a goddamn health distress because he can't produce.
Speaker 3: Whether maybe they're not make that make motherfucking sense. That's
Speaker 3: like me having like me having a goddamn call and.
Speaker 1: Riding no goddamn vote on us, and I'm mad, I
Speaker 1: got I can't goddamn drive like it ain't driving like
Speaker 1: it should. Well, maybe there's why Alan Lozard is not
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. Maybe he maybe maybe his stats are a
Speaker 1: little bit more glorified because of Aaron Rodgers. And so
Speaker 1: without Aaron Rodgers, it's not working. Have you thought about that?
Speaker 1: Did that thought it would cross your mind? It's a
Speaker 1: simple yes or no, no, I don't, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't like where you're going with that, because Davanta Adams.
Speaker 3: Listen, Davante Adams is Devantae Adams. He has a different
Speaker 3: type of DNA about him. Alan Lazard is Alan Zazaard.
Speaker 3: He's a completely different type of receiver than the comparison
Speaker 3: that you just made.
Speaker 1: And more reliant on great quarterback play. Ben Devonte Adams
Speaker 1: is thank you.
Speaker 2: You make my point, Shuy, Please all right? Next up?
Speaker 3: Next step? That's next up? Well, well you got me
Speaker 3: thirty eight hot. I'm mad, you.
Speaker 1: Should be. I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 3: I just know you know the business and you know
Speaker 3: what the fuck they slickers trying to pull over there,
Speaker 3: trying to have him at a fucking healthy scratch knowing
Speaker 3: goddamn well, my war, you put Jerry Rice in that
Speaker 3: goddamn offense, he'll look just like that too, That's how
Speaker 3: bad it is. And I mean, come on, man, what
Speaker 3: was going on over there? Do you see what's going
Speaker 3: over We don't watch the Jets for the past ten
Speaker 3: goddamn weeks. And you think Alan Zard has anything to
Speaker 3: do with the motherfucking issues in that goddamn offense, that's bullshit.
Speaker 1: I just want you to understand that when you put
Speaker 1: your hand up like this here and so and say
Speaker 1: no disrespect, disrespect, whether intent.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter disrespectful though I didn't say anything disrespect, but.
Speaker 1: You said no disrespect. I'm just trying to tell you,
Speaker 1: whether you intended it or not, when you say what
Speaker 1: you said, it's gonna be disrespectful because intent only matters
Speaker 1: to you because you didn't intend it to be disrespectful.
Speaker 1: But the person that's receiving the criticism is gonna feel just.
Speaker 3: I didn't criticize nobody. I just said as a whole,
Speaker 3: and it's entirety. And if we've all watched it for
Speaker 3: the past ten weeks, and all I've done is done
Speaker 3: my due justice and due diligence in trying to get
Speaker 3: people to understand that are watching.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why number.
Speaker 3: Two isn't to be isn't able to be efficient at
Speaker 3: what he does. It's because of more than just a
Speaker 3: goddamn Ellen Allen Lazard, more than just Garrett Wilson, more
Speaker 3: than goddamn Rendall Cobb.
Speaker 1: It's more to it than just that.
Speaker 3: And you know that you can you god damn put
Speaker 3: goddamn mother, Teresa, that goddamn quarterback, and she gonna be
Speaker 3: pissed cause she'll walk right off because it ain't nothing
Speaker 3: she gonna be able to do either.
Speaker 1: But you and I both know that there is situations
Speaker 1: that some receivers function better when they have a better quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I'm not. The thing is, some receivers can elevate
Speaker 1: a quarterback play. Some quarterback can elevate a receiver play.
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that state? Could weld you agree
Speaker 1: with it? I do.
Speaker 3: I do agree with that statement. I like where you're
Speaker 3: going with that. I love where you're going with that
Speaker 3: small case in scenario. Yes, d Hot, Yes he was
Speaker 3: with Houston.
Speaker 1: You had a merry go round a yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: do you see what he was able to do? Yes?
Speaker 3: Now, given the circumstances on what thee justs have to
Speaker 3: work with, I don't think there's any quarterback in the
Speaker 3: NFL playing right now that you can put and switch
Speaker 3: any any quarterback on any team and put them on
Speaker 3: the New York Jets and the offense would be any
Speaker 3: better than what we've seen today.
Speaker 1: So now what do you think? Tell me what you
Speaker 1: think beyond and be honest with me, Be honest with
Speaker 1: the people that are watching if we put any other receiver.
Speaker 3: In the offense, I said, I said, any other quarterback
Speaker 3: lead the receiver that need to lead the receivers as
Speaker 3: be any other quarterback in this NFL and put him
Speaker 3: in that offense, would anything be any different? Honest, be
Speaker 3: honest with yourself now, based on what you've seen the
Speaker 3: past ten weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh, well you got me. I'm glad, I'm I like
Speaker 2: this goddamn topic.
Speaker 1: Come on, I do think because here's the thing, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: the mind is unbelievable. Tool. Let me because I don't
Speaker 1: believe that when the offense takes the feel that they
Speaker 1: believe the guy that's under center gives them a great
Speaker 1: chance of winning.
Speaker 3: Oh the offense. But listen, that has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with nothing. You have a job to do. You have
Speaker 3: a job to do. You are playing and do you
Speaker 3: have a When you go out on that field as
Speaker 3: an offense, it's an individual battle between you and the
Speaker 3: motherfucker in front of you. You can't be worried about
Speaker 3: what the goddamn quarterback got to do, because I listen
Speaker 3: to me. If you a belief, you gotta believe you
Speaker 3: could win every battle because if you are.
Speaker 1: Doing your job, to your quarterback. You just told me
Speaker 1: you couldn't win with those quarterbacks. The finished. Let me
Speaker 1: let me you couldn't win with those quarterbacks. How you
Speaker 1: gonna cut me off? And I ain't finished?
Speaker 2: You talk about the office, go out there with no belief?
Speaker 1: What belief?
Speaker 3: You got a job to do. Oh, you got a
Speaker 3: job to do as an officive line, you got a
Speaker 3: job to do. When you line up there, there's a
Speaker 3: there's a face in front of you. Your job is
Speaker 3: to block the face in front of you. And when
Speaker 3: you do your job individually, it makes the quarterback job
Speaker 3: easy to be able to get the ball to the
Speaker 3: goddamn receivers.
Speaker 1: No matter. I ain't got nothing doing, no goddamn beliefs.
Speaker 1: So you believe, So you believe in New England that
Speaker 1: the guys had the same belief and everybody else to
Speaker 1: play quarterback when Tom Brady was out for whatever reason
Speaker 1: as they had in tom Brady, Yes or.
Speaker 2: No, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: We talked about it. We talk about a great line.
Speaker 2: They had a great line.
Speaker 1: They had a great offensive line. Do you think that
Speaker 1: Do you think they were able to go from Tom
Speaker 1: Brady to maca sell. It's still make the playoffs. They
Speaker 1: had a line. They didn't make the playoffs that year.
Speaker 1: They did not make the playoff that year, they win
Speaker 1: it went tennis six. Yes, get to win ten and six.
Speaker 1: So I'm asking you a simple question, O Joe. So
Speaker 1: you believe that Kansas City, if if when Patrick Mahoon
Speaker 1: comes out and they put another quarterback in, you believe
Speaker 1: they have the same belief in that quarterback as Patrick Mahone.
Speaker 1: You believe that Justin Herbert were to come. So you
Speaker 1: believe belief I'm gonna do. You believe I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you something that you can that's tangible for you. So
Speaker 1: you believe that Jamar Chase and those receivers have the
Speaker 1: same belief in nakel In excuse me, and Jake Browning
Speaker 1: as they have in Joe Burrow. You're confusing me.
Speaker 2: What does the belief have to do with anything?
Speaker 1: You have a job to do. When you walk on
Speaker 1: the field, it does get the fuck open. If you
Speaker 1: don't have Joe Burrow. If I'm Jamar Chase, I don't
Speaker 1: care who at the Helm the exd knows When that
Speaker 1: sounds good. That sounds good in theory, that sounds good
Speaker 1: in theory. That sounds good. That sound I don't care
Speaker 1: who at the helm. I got a job to do,
Speaker 1: and I'm going out there and do my job.
Speaker 3: They don't pay, they don't pay my belief to worry
Speaker 3: about what the who's that quarterback?
Speaker 2: They paying me to get the fuck up the catch ball,
Speaker 2: to score a testown.
Speaker 1: That's what they pay you to do. They do that.
Speaker 1: They do that just because you're trying to believe. You
Speaker 1: got that too much going on. You got too much
Speaker 1: to worry about already. Why are you worried about who
Speaker 1: the fuck playing quarterback? That's too much. That's that's your
Speaker 1: thanks for the gym, that's the head coach, That's that's
Speaker 1: your worry about. I just I disagree. I disagree. That's it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna move along. Jerry Jones ranks ranks this thanks Government,
Speaker 1: this Thanksgiving win over the Commanders as one of the
Speaker 1: top Cowboy moments. He said, I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: had a better day like this, and I'll include all
Speaker 1: of them, I'll put super Bowls in there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've ever had a better day with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys than today. Jerry, what are you talking about? Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones about five years ago, since, yes, you don't know
Speaker 1: the size of check that I'll be willing to write
Speaker 1: to win one more super Bowl. But he didn't say
Speaker 1: that about a regular season game, O Joe. He just say,
Speaker 1: you don't believe the sides of a check that I
Speaker 1: would write to win a game against the command those
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, or I win a regular season game. He says,
Speaker 1: you don't believe the side of the check that I'd
Speaker 1: be willing to write to win one more super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Because he started he's starting to come to grips with
Speaker 1: this mortality. He realizes that he has less time than
Speaker 1: more time on this earth. And for him to say that,
Speaker 1: why would he say that, oh Joe, when you know
Speaker 1: that's not true. Nobody that's won a super Bowl would
Speaker 1: take a regular season win over a super Bowl and
Speaker 1: say you feel just as joyous.
Speaker 2: I see more, more, more more about Jerry.
Speaker 3: And if obviously be in the face and always want
Speaker 3: to be in front of the camera, I think he
Speaker 3: was more so in the moment, more so in the moment,
Speaker 3: and really not thinking about what happened in the past,
Speaker 3: more so just speaking just to be speaking.
Speaker 1: That's what I call.
Speaker 3: That's That's what I call living in a moment for
Speaker 3: the time being that you're in right now. If Jerry
Speaker 3: Jones wants to win the Super Bowl, he can put
Speaker 3: together a team to do so right now. Defensively, he's
Speaker 3: done a great job. Really, there's no reason. Offensively they
Speaker 3: are awesome. All they needed for that to be Dak
Speaker 3: the way he is in the regular season, be the
Speaker 3: exact same way, be very efficient, don't turn the ball over,
Speaker 3: and get CD Lamb involved, get Gallup involved, goddamn get
Speaker 3: Cooks involved in the goddamn postseason, and they will be
Speaker 3: just fine. The only issue is, just like the Dolphins,
Speaker 3: we haven't got I think we talked about the Dolphins already.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, back to him, We'll go back talking to
Speaker 1: the just two things. Two things.
Speaker 3: One thing about the Cowboys and the Dolphins. They are
Speaker 3: in somewhat very alike, verylike. Offensively, the Dolphins to me,
Speaker 3: much higher ceiling and much better that in that offense,
Speaker 3: very good as well. Obviously them having a defense, I've
Speaker 3: given them the edge defensively.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins, one.
Speaker 3: Thing that they haven't done this entirety, the entirety of
Speaker 3: the season, is they haven't beat a winning team or
Speaker 3: a team above five hundred, neither of him. So at
Speaker 3: some point that's when the radley sets in. Once you
Speaker 3: get to the postseason and that's it. That's all they
Speaker 3: got to do.
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to understand after Jerry, Jerry last won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in ninety five, so it's been almost
Speaker 1: three decades, and you're saying a team that's a team
Speaker 1: like the Commanders you've never felt I mean, look, I've
Speaker 1: won some big games, but when you win the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, and you know that's the ultimate prize.
Speaker 2: Right right, right?
Speaker 1: Even the second and third Super Bowls which I won,
Speaker 1: didn't bring me the joy and the gratitude and the
Speaker 1: gratification that the first one. And you mean to tell
Speaker 1: me a regular season game you've been as excited equally
Speaker 1: to or more so than than a Super Bowl, Right,
Speaker 1: that's the right.
Speaker 3: Did you think do you think maybe he said that
Speaker 3: to continue to to get the headlines once again, to
Speaker 3: say something, to say something ridiculous of that like that,
Speaker 3: because what's the first thing everybody's gonna be talking about
Speaker 3: just to keep just to keep your headlines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly what that was.
Speaker 1: But when you when you have the Cowboys, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the headlines.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most, definitely most.
Speaker 1: They're fan base, they're loyal, they're devout. Uh, you generate
Speaker 1: the ratings, you were a cash cow. It goes without saying,
Speaker 1: you see, think about it, leon Nel Messi doesn't say anything,
Speaker 1: does he. He doesn't need to talk, Yes, sir, some
Speaker 1: people they don't need to talk. It goes without saying.
Speaker 1: When you're when you're that entity, you don't hear the
Speaker 1: Google CEO talking? You do now? Now? Now, Elon Musk
Speaker 1: is a different animal with yes, yeah, you don't hear
Speaker 1: people from Google or Salesforce or you know, Microsoft, you
Speaker 1: don't hear him talking. The business speaks for itself, right,
Speaker 1: And I just don't get with Jary what I don't believe.
Speaker 1: I tell you what this is what I do know.
Speaker 1: As much as the cowboy fans love their cowboys, I
Speaker 1: don't think any cowboy that was alive during this time
Speaker 1: and understands what those Super Bowls meant in the nineties,
Speaker 1: I don't think that one thing. Believe Jerry, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think at this point.
Speaker 3: I think at this point as much as as much
Speaker 3: as Jerry talks as many things as he says, whether
Speaker 3: you agree or disagree with him, those that are part
Speaker 3: of that cowboy fan base take it with a grain
Speaker 3: of salt. I think they take everything he says with
Speaker 3: a grain of salt because they are worried and focus
Speaker 3: on production in the postseason and nothing else matters.
Speaker 1: Else because when you had as much success as DAK
Speaker 1: has had in the regular season, what's the next step?
Speaker 1: I mean, because you say, okay, it's incremental steps, and
Speaker 1: you have to that there's a process. You win, you lose. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now we consistently win, and each year you're like to
Speaker 1: think that we can progress a little further. And they
Speaker 1: haven't been able to get past that division round in
Speaker 1: even getting back to an NFC championship. So now that's
Speaker 1: the measuring stick for DAK if you want to be
Speaker 1: thought of in that court, that little small group. Let's see,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has gone to two AFC Championship games, got
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes, we're not even talking
Speaker 1: about him because there hasn't been a year in which
Speaker 1: he's been a starter that he didn't make the AFC Championship.
Speaker 1: In three of those five years. He found himself in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and he's won two Super bowl so
Speaker 1: we understand. But if you want to be thought of,
Speaker 1: is those quarterbacks or those legendary got to go further,
Speaker 1: O Joe, because right now, what's the difference between him and
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. Tony Romo won division Tony Romo wonerful, but
Speaker 1: he hasn't been He wasn't able to advance past the
Speaker 1: divisional round. And that's what the Cowboys. When you look
Speaker 1: at Starback and you look at the guys that has
Speaker 1: those Lombardies lined up in Jerry's office. The reason why
Speaker 1: they became legendary, the reason why they became folklore, is
Speaker 1: because they were able to capture the ultimate. And that's
Speaker 1: what it comes down to in this sport. In pro sports,
Speaker 1: there's on this menu, O Joe, there's only two things
Speaker 1: you can order, wins and losses. They don't even come
Speaker 1: with water. They don't give you no napkins, and get
Speaker 1: wins the losses. That's all you get, right And so
Speaker 1: I just think, Dak, I've been receiving some criticism from
Speaker 1: something that I said last night. I said he led
Speaker 1: the league and interceptions consistently. But y'all know I meant turnovers.
Speaker 1: So let me court clarify what I said. Dak had
Speaker 1: finished in seven years three times in the top ten
Speaker 1: in total turnovers, four times if you count the year
Speaker 1: because he was top five the year that he broke
Speaker 1: his ankle and missed the rest of the season, so out,
Speaker 1: and he finished first last year, tied for first last
Speaker 1: year and he missed five games. So I think if
Speaker 1: somebody finishes top four, top ten, four or the seven
Speaker 1: years he's been in the league, don't you think that
Speaker 1: would qualify if someone someone that's turned over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, somewhat based on numbers. Every everything is
Speaker 3: about numbers. Everything this in ten years.
Speaker 1: If you finished top if you finish top ten in
Speaker 1: drops for those in for those eight seasons, what would
Speaker 1: people consider, o Joe, If you finished top if you
Speaker 1: finish top ten in fumbles in for the and for
Speaker 1: the eight years you've been in the league, they will
Speaker 1: say you got a fumbling problem, right right, right, I'm
Speaker 1: just too Ojo. Two things can be true. Dad can
Speaker 1: be playing really well and he's had a history of
Speaker 1: turning the ball over. Why can't Why why they don't
Speaker 1: have to be mutually exclusive? And I think sometimes people
Speaker 1: lose sight of that that who things can be true.
Speaker 1: He could be a good player, and Adrian Peterson was
Speaker 1: a historically great running back, but what did he have
Speaker 1: a problem doing ojo football? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So are
Speaker 1: we denying that.
Speaker 3: No, it happened, and it doesn't take away it doesn't
Speaker 3: take away the fact that they are greater at what they.
Speaker 1: Do right, and so the thing the problem is is
Speaker 1: that when Dak has gotten into the playoffs, that bug
Speaker 1: has reared it.
Speaker 3: And you know what, one thing about it and I
Speaker 3: know them boys gonna see this to take some of
Speaker 3: the pressure off of that. To me, I think which
Speaker 3: would help with some of the interceptions and some of
Speaker 3: the things like that. I need my receiving cores to
Speaker 3: raise their level of play, to raise their level of play.
Speaker 3: I need Ceedee Lamb to always be open mind. I
Speaker 3: know you're playing out his mind. I need Gallop, I
Speaker 3: need Brandon Cooks. I'm talking about every time something that
Speaker 3: is called, every time a play a player is called,
Speaker 3: you just got to be there for your quarterback. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about like insurance. You know, if something happened to
Speaker 3: you and you got insurance, you know that in insurance
Speaker 3: is gonna cover you no matter what I want. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I want Dak to be able to be blindfolded and
Speaker 3: be able to count and be able to throw a
Speaker 3: ball without even looking at knowing his receiver is gonna
Speaker 3: be there for him every single time, every time. And
Speaker 3: I think some when you get when you get that
Speaker 3: type of trust in your quarterback and receiver knowing he
Speaker 3: gonna be there for me, they gonna be fine, especially
Speaker 3: come playoff time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, c CD is played this year like a
Speaker 1: top five receiver. You and I, you and I have
Speaker 1: to be with top ten. I was like, okay, borderline
Speaker 1: top ten. But he's played like a top five receiver.
Speaker 1: I think it goes what I questioned to say, it
Speaker 1: that ty Reech has been the best receiver. And then
Speaker 1: aj Brown justin Jefferson with balling out of his mind
Speaker 1: before he tweaked that ham Streek hamstring chase is chased.
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen has been phenomenal. But but but cd CD
Speaker 1: has been legit. CD has been I mean three straight
Speaker 1: I think he had three straight games with what double
Speaker 1: digit catchers and one hundred and fifty plus yards that
Speaker 1: had never been done in NFL history. He did that
Speaker 1: he's showing it's gonna cost you a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Did resign him because he's in the fourth year, he
Speaker 1: got that contract coming up. Guess what you got that
Speaker 1: boy dog on the other side, number eleven double hockey sticks.
Speaker 1: He coming up. He gonna want he gonna want his paper.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sonnay. And guess what Daxson is gonna coming up?
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do with d You look that when
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that's automatically fifty me. He gets to
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. Now he's thrown his name into
Speaker 1: the NBC discussion with the way he's played the last
Speaker 1: two weeks with the touchdown, the interception, the touchdowns, high
Speaker 1: interception rate low he's thrown He's thrust his name into
Speaker 1: the equation. But that's a great problem to have, O Joe.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have that problem and dealing with pay paying
Speaker 1: guys after I won a championship as opposed to like,
Speaker 1: who do I pay? And we haven't reached the ultimate
Speaker 1: pinnacle yet. So Dak continued to play well, I was
Speaker 1: just pointing out, those are some of the things and
Speaker 1: you just can't look at the positive. Yeah, you look
Speaker 1: at guys Okay, Dak's playing well. I think you will
Speaker 1: not discuss that lad Night. He was clean. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about I'm talking about for Sunday Cleanna Birsary clean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would clean as the board to health. He was exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hold up, there's someone in the chance saying, oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: you just ran about Lazar. Now you're saying that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys need to play, need need to up their plate. No, no, no, huh.
Speaker 2: I don't think they. I don't think he understand what
Speaker 2: I was talking about.
Speaker 3: Hunh. When you get into the postseason, Hm, the receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's the first thing that's gonna happen when you get
Speaker 3: into the postseason. We doubling, we doubling CD. So I
Speaker 3: need Gallop and I need Brandon Cooks to do exactly
Speaker 3: what he do exactly like his last name say, I
Speaker 3: need you to cook every time. I think every time.
Speaker 3: And they've been playing, they've been playing really well.
Speaker 1: I think what they're saying is that when Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: goes out Ellen, Lazar should have said, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: up my plate.
Speaker 3: I think that's the argument that they're making. You say
Speaker 3: that said, look, you can't you can't. They don't have
Speaker 3: they they don't have the same structure. Now we talked
Speaker 3: about the Cowboys don't do that. Now we talk about
Speaker 3: we can't compare the Jets offense and the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 1: Now, come on, now, stay with me. You said you
Speaker 1: said they got a job to do.
Speaker 3: Are they doing a job? Are they doing a job
Speaker 3: in New York? Are they doing a job in New York?
Speaker 3: I just do they doing the job. I've been telling
Speaker 3: you that from day one, and you argued me down.
Speaker 3: I'm arguing you down because Zach can't do his goddamn
Speaker 3: job because the job in front of him ain't doing
Speaker 3: theirs and ever done this, and how the person in
Speaker 3: the chat don't understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't understand what I'm saying. Hey, someone else in
Speaker 1: the chant saying, oh Joe, low key, you kills in
Speaker 1: your own argument.
Speaker 2: Brodamn they don't know.
Speaker 3: See, I hate talking with football with people that don't
Speaker 3: know goddamn football.
Speaker 1: I was talking about the interception.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the interceptions that I've seen last year
Speaker 3: in the postseason. It was going to the receivers that
Speaker 3: were motherfucking covered.
Speaker 1: Everybody would have known what my t shirt be saying
Speaker 1: that's a horrible idea. What time? Uh the athletic hold on?
Speaker 1: You want to go back to tour? Oh, Joe, I
Speaker 1: got some concerns because the turnovers are starting to ride.
Speaker 1: You see. That's two games, the last two games, five turnovers.
Speaker 1: That's concerning because you know, come playoff time. Oh so
Speaker 1: you turn the ball over three times times, you're going home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going home. But listen, we just talked about that.
Speaker 3: Did we not just talk the other night?
Speaker 2: That was last night?
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, that goddamn out route, That goddamn out
Speaker 3: If you try to hitch when you hit that third step,
Speaker 3: the ball gotta be gone.
Speaker 1: The ball got to be going.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna miss, you either miss why or you
Speaker 2: miss out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Yes, one of the other.
Speaker 3: You just talked about that very difficult throw.
Speaker 1: And plus Tour doesn't have the strongest arm to begin with.
Speaker 1: You think so noo? What you mean? Do I think? So? Listen?
Speaker 1: I ain't seen two up close. Now, I ain't seen
Speaker 1: him up close to be No, No, he ain't got
Speaker 1: no arm. He has he has to throw with incredible anticipation,
Speaker 1: kind of like Brock party. But I think Rock party
Speaker 1: anticipatory skills are as good as that we've seen. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't have like Mahomes can anticipate, But Holmes Mahomes
Speaker 1: can throw the ball through our hurricane. There's the difference.
Speaker 1: Marino had that kind of anticipation, but he had armstring.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of times we see guys with
Speaker 1: great anticipation anticipation, they don't have the Josh Allen or
Speaker 1: the Brett Barb or the Patrick Mahomes, the John Elwick
Speaker 1: type arm strength. Sure he can't if he's ever late,
Speaker 1: it's going another way. Is really that simple because the
Speaker 1: guys because not out rock. Because here's the thing. When
Speaker 1: you run that speed out o Joe, you know exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. When you when you hit ten
Speaker 1: and roll to twelve, Yes, because if you miss, the
Speaker 1: DB's on your hea. That's why you speed out of
Speaker 1: the thing, because you're rolling away from him. If you miss,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit him in the chest. Right, you hit
Speaker 1: the guy on the chest on the out route, it's
Speaker 1: going to the house unless unless it's like eighty yards
Speaker 1: and you missed with Tyreek, Tyree could chase him down.
Speaker 1: He can't. But other than that that's to the house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a full head of steam one way, and
Speaker 1: and and and you rolling the other way. It's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same on that. On the hell
Speaker 1: merrit that the Jets. I looked the ash when the
Speaker 1: guy intercepted. I said, he for to run this back,
Speaker 1: and she looked at me like I said, because you
Speaker 1: got to understand, all the receivers are in the end zone.
Speaker 1: You ain't got nothing but lineman and a non athletic
Speaker 1: quarterback that's about to try to make the tackle. You
Speaker 1: had a running back in there, he got a block, boop,
Speaker 1: it's over. It's just like Alabama the kick six. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like a deep interception. Boy, you got the
Speaker 1: receivers right there. So the guy gets the ball running
Speaker 1: back this way, it's over. Like I said, unless you
Speaker 1: got a Tyreek or DK somebody that can chase him
Speaker 1: down down. But in that situation, yeah, you ask him,
Speaker 1: You ask him awful lot. That's concerning for me. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're dangerous. They still had two guys over one hundred
Speaker 1: yards today. One guy had ten catchers. I think the
Speaker 1: other guy had nine catches. Tyreek and Waddle both went
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards. Basically all the yards came between
Speaker 1: those two guys. I think both between them. They had
Speaker 1: like two twenty of the two forty three that are
Speaker 1: to a had but the interception. But the turnovers are
Speaker 1: starting to concern me. Okay, let's look at this athletic
Speaker 1: release their annual player survey. Players were asked about their
Speaker 1: favorite stadium to play in. What do you think? What
Speaker 1: do you think? The number one stadium to play?
Speaker 2: It was the number one.
Speaker 1: Yes, this was easy for me. I got it because
Speaker 1: it was my favorite. You're number one to everybody else,
Speaker 1: so it was there at the players current players anonymously
Speaker 1: asked their favorite stadium.
Speaker 3: Trying to think, I'm telling you maybe I'm thinking of
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go with the two loudest stadiums that
Speaker 3: wouldn't be a favorite though, Arrowhead or the twelve Man
Speaker 3: out there in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Arrowhead was number one, it was that's a good one.
Speaker 1: The US Bank Stadium, which is Minnesota stadium number two.
Speaker 1: Yet it's loud, but to go there and to see
Speaker 1: it's a sea of red. Yeah, and they bring that
Speaker 1: be to your b to be to bomber over and
Speaker 1: it's just like hovering and it's right there, but you
Speaker 1: don't hear it until it gets past and get it
Speaker 1: is rumbling. The stadium is actually rumbling, and all you
Speaker 1: see is red. And when the and the national anthem
Speaker 1: and the home of the Geez, yeah I mean it.
Speaker 1: You can feel the wind of all those people saying geez,
Speaker 1: feel it and it just gives you goose bump and
Speaker 1: you know you got to be on your best behavior. Now.
Speaker 1: When we played them, oh yeah, they're ma but you
Speaker 1: have to understand it was different because when I played
Speaker 1: them in nineties, they were all the defense fiveteen. They
Speaker 1: were loaded. They had DT, they had Dale Carter, they
Speaker 1: had Dale Carter, DT, Neil Smith, James Hasty, they had
Speaker 1: durn Cherry, Martin Baylor's, they Dan Salamore, Joe Phillips. They
Speaker 1: were loaded on the defensive side. And you know they
Speaker 1: had Barry Ward, christianher Corrier. So Marty Schottenhamer was the coach.
Speaker 1: They run the ball. You know, Marty wasn't gonna do
Speaker 1: anything crazy, and then turn it over to his defense
Speaker 1: and A and you see they get you backed up
Speaker 1: DT running the M zone and do this. That's what
Speaker 1: y'all want to see. And the fans go crazy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, yes, what y'all want to see? Okay, they
Speaker 1: get you backed uble, Joe, they get you backed up.
Speaker 1: They got so loud. They had to change the rules
Speaker 1: because Dan told us We went there one time and
Speaker 1: Dan says, John, if you can't hear, just turned to
Speaker 1: the official and tell him you can't hear. Mm, well,
Speaker 1: why not go to silent count? But that was before
Speaker 1: the silent There was no silent count. We ended up turning.
Speaker 1: We had teams ended up going to the silent counts,
Speaker 1: but the official would make the crowd, the home crowd
Speaker 1: quiet down so you can hear the snap. And they said,
Speaker 1: if you didn't quiet down, they were gonna start taking
Speaker 1: time out.
Speaker 2: Okay, NFL, now we can't have that.
Speaker 1: That's the whole purpose of having the home field advantage
Speaker 1: is to have your crowd get in to it. So
Speaker 1: they changed the rule and then everybody started going on
Speaker 1: the silent count. Arrowhead was number one. US Bank Stadium,
Speaker 1: the Bikers was number two, the least favorite stadium to
Speaker 1: play in. Where do you think the players voted?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I would I would go Well,
Speaker 3: obviously the Raiders aren't at the black hole, so they
Speaker 3: it's nice over there, so the black hole wouldn't be trying.
Speaker 1: To think least favorite. I got both of these, which
Speaker 1: fan base is really crazy? Maybe the Eagles Eagles, Eagles,
Speaker 1: the Eagles are make Eagles. No, the old Eagle. When
Speaker 1: I played, the Eagles used to play at the VET.
Speaker 1: This was terf It was concrete with basically a carpet
Speaker 1: laid on top of it. Ouch. It was terrible. Yes. Uh,
Speaker 1: the players voted meant life is where the Jets and
Speaker 1: the Giants play. That is a bad stadium, FedEx and
Speaker 1: FedEx Field because remember they just had no cold they
Speaker 1: had no hot water just last just last week. So
Speaker 1: the tourlet and the tournat has been backing up from
Speaker 1: what I've heard. But when I played, I would say VET,
Speaker 1: the Eagles played the old Astrodome. They didn't. They did
Speaker 1: away with that before you got into the league. Uh.
Speaker 1: Cleveland Municipal Stadium was a dump. Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a dump, Joe. It was bad. It was really really bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The most annoying fan base crazy got.
Speaker 3: The Eagles throw snowballs at center you know, you know
Speaker 3: they ain't wrapped too tight.
Speaker 1: They say, say I ain't bring them ish, so that
Speaker 1: he deserved it. Okay, the Eagles were number one? Who's
Speaker 1: number two?
Speaker 2: Number two? Fan base?
Speaker 3: That's really crazy, Oh Joe, come on now, it's a
Speaker 3: good one because hey, the Bills, no, most annoying.
Speaker 2: Oh annoying? Oh okay, oh the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, okay, okay, okay, thank you. But you know,
Speaker 1: but see I came along. We didn't really know how
Speaker 1: annoying the fan base was because there was no social media,
Speaker 1: so there was nobody on gian Oh y'all, you suck
Speaker 1: cowboyd Nation and the Eagles fly were whatever the Eagles
Speaker 1: fly because I think Ravens flocked Eagles fly. There was
Speaker 1: none of that going on, so we didn't get it
Speaker 1: until you. Until you got there, but every fan base
Speaker 1: was rabbit. Uh check this out. Coach other than your
Speaker 1: own that you would have wanted to play for, yep,
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good that's an easy one. And that
Speaker 1: Andy Reid offense Nope? Yeah? And what what he wouldn't want?
Speaker 2: How he wasn't one?
Speaker 3: So depending on who you asked, three you have an
Speaker 3: offensive player. He was three, So who would be one?
Speaker 3: If you had a coach that you'd like to play world.
Speaker 1: I mean that was easy for me. I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I got number one. I would I would. I went
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid too, but I got this with number one.
Speaker 1: No hands. Mike Tomlin Mike, that's a matter of fact.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Is a good one.
Speaker 1: Number two was Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 2: That's that's another good one. You notice everybody you just
Speaker 2: name a player coaches.
Speaker 1: I thought they were the name Kyle Shanahan. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine in that offense.
Speaker 2: That office. That's a good one.
Speaker 3: That's that's a good one though, And they all all
Speaker 3: everybody that those top three are all player coaches and
Speaker 3: relate very well to the players.
Speaker 1: Danny donated seventy dollars. Ask Uncano Jo, what are the
Speaker 1: best parts of playing in the NFL? What are the
Speaker 1: worst parts? I'll let you go first. What's the best part?
Speaker 3: Let me see the best part and competing and matter
Speaker 3: of fact, the best part to me is the game.
Speaker 3: Being able to compete, getting up, practicing, you know, showing
Speaker 3: up the meetings, going through the game plan, going out
Speaker 3: executing the game planning, and then going out Sunday and
Speaker 3: trying to execute it the exact same way.
Speaker 1: You know you did.
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know that that you worked on in practice.
Speaker 3: For me, the entertainment value that for one, that I
Speaker 3: was able to bring to the game dog was bar
Speaker 3: none and one of the best things for me. The
Speaker 3: bad thing will be the bad thing.
Speaker 1: I think. Take anything I got to I got two
Speaker 1: repaired hips, I got, I got located, Damn I got,
Speaker 1: I got a broken practice collar ball.
Speaker 2: That god, damn you got. You got fucked up.
Speaker 1: Yes I didn't. I didn't have to have the y.
Speaker 3: But the only the only bad thing for me, the
Speaker 3: only bad thing for me was the fact that the
Speaker 3: entertainment value that I brought to the game, they saw
Speaker 3: me as a villain and they kept taking my money over.
Speaker 2: I think I was going now everything now everything is accepted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me, the camaraderie. See, I enjoyed
Speaker 1: this staff man, but I like. I love the practice.
Speaker 1: I love the practices. I love the meeting, I love
Speaker 1: the locker room. I love the bus rides, I love
Speaker 1: the plane I love all of that, the bonding and
Speaker 1: the journey to get to that destination, which is the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and to win that that's that's the look
Speaker 1: look and that the money the look the money because
Speaker 1: it gave me an opportunity to take care of my
Speaker 1: family and away that I probably never could have. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I could have, but I didn't really love anything
Speaker 1: as much as I love football. Now, had I not been,
Speaker 1: had I not been able to fulfill my dreams, I
Speaker 1: was going to law school and I was gonna be
Speaker 1: ab and I think I could have been. You know,
Speaker 1: I think people liked by debating skills. I think I'd
Speaker 1: have been a damn good lawyer. Okay, Johnny Cocker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, Johnny Cocker, Willie Garren,
Speaker 1: you know, Jess fancy to be, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the big time guys. And so I think that's that's
Speaker 1: the best part, o Joe, is the opportunity provide for
Speaker 1: your family at a level that you probably didn't even
Speaker 1: dream of. Because even though I was going like playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL, man, when I'm I mean, if you
Speaker 1: got a million dollars in the NFL when I first
Speaker 1: got there, bag you making big time money right right?
Speaker 1: It wasn't no, it wasn't no. It wasn't no. Seven
Speaker 1: eight ten million dollar deals going on. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, when I first got your NFL. There wasn't
Speaker 1: even no free agency. There wasn't no free agency. So
Speaker 1: they offered you. You had to take whatever they offered.
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of these guys stayed with one
Speaker 1: team forever. Joe, where you going right? Right? Right? Where
Speaker 1: you going? Yeah, and so a lot of and that's
Speaker 1: what you what you saw is that these great teams,
Speaker 1: all of them got Oh you look at the Steelers,
Speaker 1: Joe Green, Mail Blunt, Lambert ham Bradshaw, they traded Franco
Speaker 1: star Warts, Swan Webster. All those guys get old at once,
Speaker 1: then what do you got? All those guys are Hall
Speaker 1: of famers, but they're retiring within a year or two
Speaker 1: of each other.
Speaker 3: Then what Yeah, And when I think about it, I
Speaker 3: never really thought about, you know, the money in the
Speaker 3: financial aspect of it, because I was I was so
Speaker 3: busy and joined the game the same way I did
Speaker 3: when I was a little shorty, the same way I
Speaker 3: played football, I tell you know, Like the same way
Speaker 3: I played football at Liberty City Optimists, at MAMMI be
Speaker 3: Senior High or Mia Lake's Optimist when I played them,
Speaker 3: talking about back in nineteen eighty eight. It's the same
Speaker 3: way I played the game. Once I got to the
Speaker 3: NFL and the fact that they tried to get me
Speaker 3: to conform and change the way I played the game,
Speaker 3: it wasn't It wasn't happening. And the funny thing about
Speaker 3: it when when we think about the NFL and when
Speaker 3: you don't abide by the rules, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't break the rules.
Speaker 3: I just been them just a little bit because I
Speaker 3: felt the game should be played in the entertaining I
Speaker 3: felt the game should be played in an entertaining fashion.
Speaker 3: So the first thing they think, well, we gonna take
Speaker 3: what you think, We're gonna take what we think you
Speaker 3: value most. That's where the finds come in at. But
Speaker 3: lord behold, man, I'm not here for the money, because
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make that regardless. I'm gonna play the game
Speaker 3: the way I play is a little shorty and have
Speaker 3: fun doing it because when my time is up, I
Speaker 3: don't want no regrets about Damn. I should have did
Speaker 3: this while I was playing Rod eight seventy. Ask who
Speaker 3: is the better route runner? Ochoa A b Oh.
Speaker 2: You know, you know the funny thing about it, but
Speaker 2: it is people.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 3: People won't even know Me and A B training together
Speaker 3: for the past, what thirteen fourteen years.
Speaker 1: They ain't ask you that. They ask you a sibil question.
Speaker 1: Who's the better route runner? They don't ask you who
Speaker 1: you trained with? Not get the people answer. It depends.
Speaker 1: I'm the greatest. Depend on what? Who is the great?
Speaker 3: I'm the greatest route runner of all time, all time?
Speaker 3: Say that I'm the great, lady. Let me start, Let
Speaker 3: me let me talk, let me say something. I'm the
Speaker 3: greatest route runner of all time. There's one receiver.
Speaker 1: Listen to me.
Speaker 3: Don't stay with me, baby, There's one receiver and you can.
Speaker 3: You can in the NFL. Here, NFL Films has all
Speaker 3: the footage that can come to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: and before the snap of the ball, tell the dB
Speaker 3: my route and still get open.
Speaker 2: There's only one person that's ever done that. Let me
Speaker 2: let me finish.
Speaker 3: There's one receiver that before the season started, he has
Speaker 3: a he had a list of every DV, every dB
Speaker 3: in his locker.
Speaker 1: It was checking him off week the week. There's only
Speaker 1: one everybody else did I know I'm talking about about
Speaker 1: earlier in my early got to keep up with you.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it, that's that's that's one
Speaker 3: man and not only and it ain't really bad to
Speaker 3: lose to that one man because that one man is
Speaker 3: one of the greatest they ever played the game.
Speaker 1: So he got got what that was? What that would
Speaker 1: have said about you if you did a number on it,
Speaker 1: huh huh mean you heard exactly what I felt.
Speaker 3: You know, I would have said, I would have said,
Speaker 3: I got lucky because that motherfucker was good boy. That
Speaker 3: nigga Reavers had the motherfucking patience of Sally Made because
Speaker 3: you know, ain't nobody paying that money no time soon.
Speaker 1: But at that line of scrimmage, ain't biting that first move,
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, he got it. Don't
Speaker 1: look at him the way he's building. And then she
Speaker 1: got a he man, he got long and that first
Speaker 1: move he ain't biting. Did he just gonna turn it run?
Speaker 3: And if he do this and he got that, he
Speaker 3: can put that little ar bar right by your hip,
Speaker 3: so you really can't go nowhere. And then his ball
Speaker 3: playing skills was fucking elite, elite ball playing.
Speaker 2: Skills elite, Yeah, yeah, he was, he was.
Speaker 1: He was good. He was good. You watch his feet,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, he opened up too soon. All that
Speaker 1: he said, I see all that head moving, but that
Speaker 1: way they moved that.
Speaker 3: There's there's only one person, one person who had consistent
Speaker 3: success against Reeves, and that was Stevie Johnson. Stevie Johnson
Speaker 3: was a phenomenal, phenomenal receiver, especially in the phone booth
Speaker 3: when it comes to to creating separation and making you think,
Speaker 3: making you do something you didn't think.
Speaker 2: He was doing opened up unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But it was rare that had opened up too soon,
Speaker 1: very because he never bit the first move, and sometimes he.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't even he wouldn't even go for the guy damn
Speaker 3: second one. Yeah, that's why I say, listen, weavers had
Speaker 3: the patience of sally made because you know, people ain't
Speaker 3: paying them loans back no time soon.
Speaker 2: And we was gonna sit there wait for you. He
Speaker 2: gonna wait for you.
Speaker 1: But salamj just wait for you to get a better
Speaker 1: pay of job and then you's gonna come knocking on.
Speaker 1: I need to get that Salamati Salamate say, I ain't
Speaker 1: bother you that little first job because I know that's
Speaker 1: a little that's the little starter job. It's just like
Speaker 1: your first house. Oh Joe, you know everybody they got
Speaker 1: to start the house, Saud, wait, I would wait till
Speaker 1: that second or third job would you get that? Would
Speaker 1: you get that big pay day? And then I'm gonna Hey,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna see them. I'm gonna send those notices out. Uh.
Speaker 1: Plcer seventeen asked how many rings would you have won now?
Speaker 1: And how many how many rings would you have now
Speaker 1: in a league like this? Oh, let me go back rod.
Speaker 1: He also asked who is the better route runner? Meal
Speaker 1: with really, dude, wait now you you was a different
Speaker 1: type of tight ending with Come on, man, just understand
Speaker 1: the game now. I was a legit. I got drafted
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver and they moved me to tight ends.
Speaker 1: But I can still maneuver like I ran bang eights,
Speaker 1: I rang, I ran comebacks, I ran digs they put
Speaker 1: me outside. I ran slug os, I ran speed out.
Speaker 1: How many tight ends you think, even in today's game,
Speaker 1: they've hitting ten roll to twelve? How many of them
Speaker 1: running a comeback? How many of them running a dig?
Speaker 1: How many of them running a dagger? How many of
Speaker 1: them running a shape route? I could literally literally run
Speaker 1: the route tree. Oh Joe, Yeah, got not even a
Speaker 1: fair comparison to ask a guy that was two twenty eight,
Speaker 1: could have got two fifty run better routes than me.
Speaker 1: Talk you talk, talk your talking, now, talk your talk.
Speaker 1: I wish you when you're right, one thing about it.
Speaker 1: I'm wish you when you're right. I ain't gonna all
Speaker 1: the fact, man, I didn't seen you.
Speaker 2: Now, I got.
Speaker 1: Witnen had an unbelievable career. But it ain't no tight
Speaker 1: end hm hm not no, not no routes because you
Speaker 1: gotta realize. I spent a lot of time outside the numbers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm running. I'm running. I'm running a what tighten? You know,
Speaker 1: running bang eights right now? That ain't happening right now,
Speaker 1: didn't happen.
Speaker 3: I got a question, I got, well, no, he's just
Speaker 3: a big body with great hands.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was a thinking about Jimmy Smith. What do you
Speaker 3: think about Jimmy Smith. I'm Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, jim Jimmy was a big body. He was. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the first.
Speaker 2: That's why I said that.
Speaker 1: And see, I look at guys like Jimmy. He was
Speaker 1: kind of like Mark Tamira, Ben Coles Bavarro. They played
Speaker 1: bumper cards. They look at the banging to somebody and
Speaker 1: bump off them. I ain't trying to let you touch me.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. No, you ain't getting another that you ain't
Speaker 1: fit to touch me. I'm only two twenty eight, bro.
Speaker 1: I can't let you get your hands on me. Now.
Speaker 1: If you a safety or DP, yeah, i'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: you at last time to wait. But you you a linebacker.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to let you get your hands on me.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you square me up. That's the
Speaker 1: and I always say, I'm always playing oo, I'm playing
Speaker 1: half a man half because because I can't let you
Speaker 1: do this. It's like here and I'm here, or you're
Speaker 1: here and I'm here. I'm not gonna let you square
Speaker 1: me up. You're not gonna hit me in my breastplate. No,
Speaker 1: I'm always playing on half a man. And that's what
Speaker 1: I tell the guys. Not play half a man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not the whole a make a make sure you are,
Speaker 1: make sure you understand you want to You wanted to
Speaker 1: be half the man that he could be right.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny when I think about it.
Speaker 3: There are some receivers, big body receivers that enjoy where
Speaker 3: they really don't have the physical tools of the DNA
Speaker 3: to play half a man because they really can't get
Speaker 3: around nobody that will light that want engagement. I've seen
Speaker 3: t o do it. I've seen Brandon Marshall do it.
Speaker 3: You've seen that pulling tug.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know how strong you gotta be to
Speaker 1: have a pulling tug and still remain within the timent
Speaker 1: of an offense. Yeah, like that I try to do.
Speaker 3: I try to pull that pulling tug shit off one time.
Speaker 3: I tell you, no, Lie, I was on the sideline.
Speaker 1: Definitely gotta play half this the TV roll my ass
Speaker 1: all the way through the sideline.
Speaker 3: Say you know I ain't. I ain't watching the big niggas.
Speaker 3: No more, man, I ain't watching the big receiver.
Speaker 1: Now you can't. Now you need to be in order
Speaker 1: in order to play through the through the contact. Right.
Speaker 1: It's two twenty and.
Speaker 2: It's all about I might have been one eighty A best.
Speaker 1: Guys like guys like you said, Julio Yoll, Randon Marshall,
Speaker 1: Meta Tron.
Speaker 3: It's crave Mega Tron too. It's crazy I'm talking about
Speaker 3: They would let the DV get hands on them, like
Speaker 3: let them get hands on them and grab on the
Speaker 3: in between the shoulder paths and just tug and pull
Speaker 3: whichever way they want to go and.
Speaker 2: Be open every time, every time.
Speaker 1: Yes, because what you do when you do that, when
Speaker 1: you pull him, you launch yourself forward. That's just like
Speaker 1: a dB, if you know the sometimes dB grab you
Speaker 1: by the heill and undercome the rock because they slow
Speaker 1: you down and launched themselves forward forward. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: have to because I did. I did that a lot.
Speaker 1: Get beat on the block, grab the guy by his way.
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, I'm in front of him. Man,
Speaker 1: how you do that? Don't worry about You'll see it
Speaker 1: on for him the trade. Richard Sherman also said Stevie
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson was the hardest receiver to cover. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Stevie Stevie was. Stevie was shifty in any any tall,
Speaker 1: long linky Lincoln corners like Richard Sherman or even even
Speaker 1: even in today's game, I'm thinking about Jayalen Ramsey. He
Speaker 1: would pose problems for anybody.
Speaker 3: You you missing, you missing everybody, everybody in this chair.
Speaker 3: You all remember and one right, you remember the an
Speaker 3: one basketball. Yeah, that's exactly how Stevie Johnson got off
Speaker 3: the ball him and Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the saucy Hey, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you were in the league when Deyontay Hall from camp.
Speaker 2: Man, when do you remember what he did to the Broncos?
Speaker 1: I was there? What you mean? That was a kick
Speaker 1: return to part return return man? The human joystick? He
Speaker 1: human look he called he called it. He called a
Speaker 1: hitge route. Uh huh. He drew by twelve. Guys had
Speaker 1: guys running into each other like looking like Keystone Cops.
Speaker 1: Google that play that was against us in my hot
Speaker 1: Yeah what damn? That was also the game Porters give
Speaker 1: him up for like two hundred and half five touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Check this out, O Joe. Yeah. Anthony Edwa says he
Speaker 1: could be the first NBA and NFL player, and man,
Speaker 1: I think I might be the first. Fundy Marco. He
Speaker 1: sat down and did an interview with Fernnie Marco. Funny
Speaker 1: Marco asked, are you gonna do it? And man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try First. I gotta handle my business in the
Speaker 1: NBA Minnesota we won a championship. After that, we'll figure
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: M How how tall as Anthony ed was by but
Speaker 2: six eight success.
Speaker 1: No he's six four sixty five. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 3: So then he would have to play receiver, but he'd
Speaker 3: get banged up.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, he get banged up.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. I don't know what got y'all crying about
Speaker 1: files in the NBA. Just imagine when y'all shoot a
Speaker 1: jump shot, y'all concerned about coming down on somebody's foot.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine you jumped your ass up in the air,
Speaker 1: they're gonna snatch.
Speaker 3: You out the Yeah, especially that tall. That's a big target.
Speaker 3: Though maybe Anthony Edwards is built different. You know, maybe
Speaker 3: in high school he might have been a five star
Speaker 3: recruit coming out. Obviously, I'm not sure if they will
Speaker 3: actually translate into the NFL. But still he's a dog
Speaker 3: at what he does, especially the NBA. That's that boy.
Speaker 1: That's that boy.
Speaker 3: I'm just not sure if it would translate the way
Speaker 3: he thinks it did, thinks it is, or would.
Speaker 1: Mentally, it's just a different, different animal. It's a different animal.
Speaker 2: Once you get to the NFL, now, especially when.
Speaker 1: You're that big and everybody says, oh, he could play, brother,
Speaker 1: do you understand. Look, I was in the league. Dion's
Speaker 1: a year older than me. So Dion came in eighty nine.
Speaker 1: I came in ninety. I was also in the league
Speaker 1: with both. So to say you think somebody can do
Speaker 1: it versus actually seeing somebody do it to do it.
Speaker 1: But I think basketball is a little bit because I
Speaker 1: don't know how often you go to NBA games, but
Speaker 1: you go watch the NBA game. You watched the eighth
Speaker 1: and ninth guy shoot the basketball and they don't miss.
Speaker 1: They'll make ten eleven shots in an effort. Row right, Right,
Speaker 1: But the mindset to be a football player and deal
Speaker 1: with that physicality. You thought the NBA was physical back
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties, and even though they relaxed
Speaker 1: a lot of the rules in the NFL. Right, animal,
Speaker 1: that's a different animal, though, Ojo. And that's what I
Speaker 1: tell guy. I said, look, I'm not trying to short
Speaker 1: change your talent, because I believe you were talented. Now,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys might have played football. Mad
Speaker 1: Barnes played football, but he gave it up to focus
Speaker 1: on basketball. And that's what most of these guys did.
Speaker 1: Once they got to like the eighth or the ninth grade,
Speaker 1: they gave it up so they didn't play anymore. Played
Speaker 1: the last three years of high school, didn't play, if
Speaker 1: they went to college, didn't play. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you think you're just gonna like pick it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know, his mental his mental capacity
Speaker 3: and the way he is, just the way he built,
Speaker 3: the way he thinks you're based on his background, based
Speaker 3: on his upbringing, he truly believes he could transition and
Speaker 3: do it. He truly believes.
Speaker 1: That it is it Is it a reality or is
Speaker 1: it even even possible?
Speaker 3: Probably not, but the way he operate and that with
Speaker 3: that dog mentality, he has the makeup to be able
Speaker 3: to do it in the DNA.
Speaker 2: But it's just obviously it's too late. It's wouldn't even
Speaker 2: impossible because.
Speaker 3: Football, football, and basketball it run during the same time. Hey,
Speaker 3: and to speak to your fact and you know, my
Speaker 3: knowledge of the game of basketball is not where it
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to the game.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm going to a game this Monday, me and Doug.
Speaker 3: We're going to uh I'm sitting courtside for the Lakers
Speaker 3: in Philly game okay in Philly.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited. This is my first game in three years.
Speaker 1: Watch those guys just watching warm up and watch how
Speaker 1: Afflis they shoot the ball and guys will make seven, eight, ten,
Speaker 1: they'll make seven threes in a row. And you like, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how you the Tears guy and you didn't mess? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But who do I watch? Who do I watch?
Speaker 1: Because the Philly Philly playing the Lakers, the Lakers playing,
Speaker 1: they got Joel andbid Hey, they got nice, they got
Speaker 1: been balling out of his mind. You know the Lakers.
Speaker 1: You know Lebron and ad Reeves.
Speaker 2: I mean, but just I mean Ad playing, ad playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna put him the side because he needs
Speaker 1: he need a nutritionist. I need to holler at a
Speaker 1: d A right the last time he played, that's the
Speaker 1: second game in the first fifteen, in the first fifteen,
Speaker 1: the thirteen games that he's gonna scoreless in the second half.
Speaker 1: But bust, there is there a reason. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the reason is. All I know is the Maverick
Speaker 1: has one of the worst interior defenses in basketball and
Speaker 1: he had zero points.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe he was kicking the ball out all the time. See,
Speaker 3: I know, that's my love, that's my basketball league.
Speaker 1: He was kicking the ball out. Oh Joe, I ain't
Speaker 1: kicking nothing out it's like what you said, when you
Speaker 1: gotta do when you got somebody and you know you
Speaker 1: can beat him, you ain't telling. You ain't telling. You
Speaker 1: ain't telling. Cars a car going fed TJ. Go ahead
Speaker 1: and feel you get me that? Give me that? Right?
Speaker 3: Okay, kicking enough? I see you're going when you when
Speaker 3: you isn't that selfish? If it is a selfish if
Speaker 3: the team is winning and there's an open man, you
Speaker 3: don't want it thish, You don't want to kick it.
Speaker 1: Out, but you're asking an awful lot for almost thirty
Speaker 1: nine year old to carry it. This is supposed to
Speaker 1: be Anthony Davis's team, right, this is what is supposed
Speaker 1: to be now. I remember Ron saying that, remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can't. Yeah, but you got to take it right,
Speaker 1: you got to take it. I want I wanted to
Speaker 1: be John Elway to go to guy. I took it.
Speaker 1: I made him in practice. I made it the way
Speaker 1: I practice and come game time he knows he gonna
Speaker 1: catch it or it's gonna be incomplete. Well what if?
Speaker 3: What if his mentality is not like that? What happens
Speaker 3: just for for the sake of argument, a hypothetical question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happens.
Speaker 3: If Anthony Davis had a Kobe Bryant's type mentality, he
Speaker 3: he be.
Speaker 1: The best player in the NBA.
Speaker 3: A John Ma, he'd be the best player Derrick Rose type,
Speaker 3: Adam Iverson.
Speaker 1: That just that that it got that he'd be he
Speaker 1: would be the best player in the NBA. And that's
Speaker 1: what it See. That's the difference when I was talking
Speaker 1: and you was talking about earlier about the mindset. Right,
Speaker 1: you see how important the mindset is, right, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I played my transition. Can he transition into that too? Late? Ojo?
Speaker 1: Twelve years? Ayah Ocho? You born with that? You think
Speaker 1: Kobe developed that once he got to the nine. That's little.
Speaker 3: That's that's start when you're little. That's start when you're little.
Speaker 3: That that kill of mindset. You don't even know you
Speaker 3: got it. It's just the way you coach the game. Yes, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: Just I was just serious. Me. I was the youngest
Speaker 1: of all my cousins, Like my sister is the oldest
Speaker 1: of all my cousins on my mom on my mom's side,
Speaker 1: my sister's the oldest, and so Arnielle is next to her,
Speaker 1: who's seven years older than me. Eugene was six years
Speaker 1: old rest and so my brothers three years, my cousin's
Speaker 1: two years and so we playing. They call it travel.
Speaker 1: They do it everything. They be a I had to
Speaker 1: develop a mindset. I said, I want to play. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm tired of being picked last. Oh okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw in Ojoe. Okay, if you get the best player,
Speaker 1: If you get the best player, you also got to
Speaker 1: take the worst player, which is me. But I got
Speaker 1: out of that Ojoe right right right. So I developed
Speaker 1: a mindsket no, no, no, no, going to the park.
Speaker 1: I'm the last guy picked. Okay, now everybody waiting, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay, We're gonna take sharp. And so that's
Speaker 1: the mindset you got to have. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I played my entire career at ladies and gentlemen. I
Speaker 1: weigh two hundred and twenty eight pounds. You not finna
Speaker 1: beat me all day long.
Speaker 2: O Joe right right right right, straight.
Speaker 1: Hand being Reggie. I got to win some of these battles.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying I'm gonna win them all, but I
Speaker 1: got to win something.
Speaker 2: Hey, straight hand with Sean.
Speaker 1: Man, straight man man straight locking wussy man straight.
Speaker 2: Hey, Reggie, right, like Reggie Wright with that runner, see
Speaker 2: the regul.
Speaker 1: A different Reggie. Reggie was a different animal. Was Regue
Speaker 1: was throwing three hundred and fifty pounds me in So
Speaker 1: what the hell do you think I had to Tricky
Speaker 1: had to take a had to take a false step
Speaker 1: and cut him off. Right. But but like we got
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, I really didn't like. I really
Speaker 1: didn't like to cut right, especially like a guy like them,
Speaker 1: because last thing I want to do.
Speaker 2: Is right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: But there was the super Bowl. It was the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Joe, he said, fuck it, Huh, I had to get it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry I was cutting everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you you had a disadvantage, man, you have advantage.
Speaker 1: Reggie. Reggie was ungodly strong. Bruce was strong. Uh, and
Speaker 1: if Bruce, he had to understand Bruce played basically he
Speaker 1: got all those sacks basically in a in a three
Speaker 1: four defense. So Reggie was a five tech. I mean
Speaker 1: Bruce was a five technique technague, right, which is which
Speaker 1: is yeah, he got two on the sacks basically, with
Speaker 1: the exception of maybe the last couple of years in Washington,
Speaker 1: he was a He was a five Tech, right. Remember
Speaker 1: remember Dext to Manly. Yeah, I think Dex was gone
Speaker 1: by the time. I think. I don't think I played
Speaker 1: against him. I played against Charles Man in Washington. They
Speaker 1: had they had they had a they had a good team.
Speaker 1: They had a good team. I think we played them
Speaker 1: the year after they won the Super Bowl in ninety one.
Speaker 1: I think that's when we played them. I think we
Speaker 1: played them there. We played them in the old RFK Stadium.
Speaker 1: It was a dump too, uh ojo. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw this video. Did you see this guy
Speaker 1: made a raccoon soup and he made it with all
Speaker 1: the ingredients that I told you they have pepper onions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter. So I want you to
Speaker 1: I want you to do me a favor. You want
Speaker 1: to try it with me?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, no, no, no, no, hold hello.
Speaker 1: Hold on. I gotta get a time. I gotta get
Speaker 1: a full time of ojo.
Speaker 3: You will serve toes, but you won't eat no coon
Speaker 3: whoa state. Let me let's let's rewind that. Let me
Speaker 3: rewind this again and let me press play. You mean
Speaker 3: to tell me you'll eat some raccoon soup, but you
Speaker 3: ain't gonna suck no toes.
Speaker 1: No no, no, sir boy.
Speaker 2: Raccoons eat out the garbage.
Speaker 3: Raccoons eat everything, come to me, But you won't suck
Speaker 3: on no toes.
Speaker 1: That's clean. Just had a pedicure. I tell you what
Speaker 1: a chicken, a chicken, and a hog if nastier than
Speaker 1: a raccoon. Look it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I know about that. What about that?
Speaker 2: But listen, they all nasty. They are nasty.
Speaker 1: I ain't no tod It's like, are you are you?
Speaker 2: Are you taking some taking some ice?
Speaker 1: Ice? You got give some crust for a spring to.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. You start
Speaker 2: with that pinky toe.
Speaker 1: You play it like the flute like you Andre three thousand. No. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was never in the band, and if I were
Speaker 1: in the band, I was gonna play the flue. I
Speaker 1: was gonna play the trumpet or the trombone. So no, hey,
Speaker 1: o Joe, you got I'm talking about choo. Yes, exotic
Speaker 1: exotic eating were going all over the going, all over
Speaker 1: the count all over the world, all over the world
Speaker 1: eating armadilla. Paul.
Speaker 3: We gotta listen, we gotta show that's that sounds like
Speaker 3: some god damn fifth factor.
Speaker 1: Ship.
Speaker 2: Now that for that.
Speaker 1: Now I do that.
Speaker 3: Because one one thing I try, I try anything once, Yeah,
Speaker 3: anything try.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about food. I'm talking about food. I ain't Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me clarify. You talk about about you will
Speaker 1: try anything? Oh no, no, no. The only thing try
Speaker 1: I know is tricycle.
Speaker 3: Now I wrote with since nineteen nineteen, since nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 1: But I think look good though. You gotta admit it
Speaker 1: looked good the way you had that thing had some
Speaker 1: cone bread. It looked good, but would have been better?
Speaker 3: Is is if we were to have a show like that,
Speaker 3: we will travel the world and try exotic foods or
Speaker 3: exotic delicacies.
Speaker 1: Or whatever it might be. You can't tell me what
Speaker 1: it is, because if you tell me what it is,
Speaker 1: then mentally I ain't gonna be there.
Speaker 2: If you don't tell me, God is racked. Don't tell
Speaker 2: me it's raccou soup.
Speaker 1: Just give me the soup and let me try it,
Speaker 1: and then I'll be okay. See see, I already got
Speaker 1: you signed down. See I get I want some pig
Speaker 1: here sandwich with old pig here saying which that real
Speaker 1: bread and mustard. I want a pig here sandwich. I
Speaker 1: want some greens with pigtails in them.
Speaker 2: Okay, I eat pigtails. I eat pig feet, not.
Speaker 1: Pig hear tail, you eat too?
Speaker 2: But anyway, huh, you don't wait, you don't You don't eat,
Speaker 2: you don't eat.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of music questions. Oh, Joe, Donny
Speaker 1: don't donated. We're moving on. Donny donated dollars? You got?
Speaker 1: You got off that top of the hated five. What
Speaker 1: music did you listen to before the game during your career?
Speaker 3: Boy, the boys hated me, and I'm sure, I'm sure,
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm not sure if any of my former
Speaker 3: players are former teammates are in his chat, but body,
Speaker 3: they hated me. We had a surround sound system, right
Speaker 3: and you know, game day seniority rules, seniority rules. We'll
Speaker 3: ever get to that surround sound system first, and that
Speaker 3: is the music you get to hear.
Speaker 1: Were you man?
Speaker 3: Unk I had Frank Sinatra playing. I had blues, classical
Speaker 3: music playing. Unk I had gospel playing. And they come
Speaker 3: in there hollering, screaming, man, get this bullshit off the
Speaker 3: goddamn We're trying to get ready for a game, and
Speaker 3: you know, man, shit, put your earphones on. Put your
Speaker 3: phones on, because for me, I done did so much
Speaker 3: shit talking through the week, through the media, playing around,
Speaker 3: giving the other team bulletin boar material. The last thing
Speaker 3: I needed needed to be on game day was rah
Speaker 3: rah rah How I needed to be relaxed, in a nice,
Speaker 3: calm and quiet mental state because now I got to
Speaker 3: go out there and perform and back up all that
Speaker 3: shit don't talked during the week, so I needed I
Speaker 3: needed that class crew music. I need that jazz. I
Speaker 3: need to hear Frank Sinatra. So I was in a
Speaker 3: calm state. So I went out there and I was
Speaker 3: able to execute and back up all that shit I talked. Man,
Speaker 3: they hated me, man, they hated it.
Speaker 1: That was the exact same way Michelle and Diego o'ceello
Speaker 1: was one, Maxwell was two shot. They was three good.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Oh Joe. I couldn't listen to
Speaker 1: that get up because my because I'm already amy, Man,
Speaker 1: my heart be about to explode. So I not something
Speaker 1: to calm me down. Man. Man, you know what Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons said, he took that sea for powder. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: I took some of that before the game. The guy
Speaker 1: like man, sharp, take this, O Jo, I liked to
Speaker 1: pass out. O Joe, serious, you took too much, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm already am I'm already a guy that gets going
Speaker 1: natural man. Actually, oh Joe, I ran down there and kickoff.
Speaker 1: I missed, man. I was on the oxygen for about
Speaker 1: about ten minutes.
Speaker 2: O Cho, and you was in Denver, so you're already
Speaker 2: sitting house.
Speaker 1: Already, I say, never again. Listen to some music. Listen
Speaker 1: to that music, everybody. I was at height that way.
Speaker 1: See what I was in Baltimore mysticales. I remember when
Speaker 1: mister Cook came out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you hot them?
Speaker 1: Yeah you I go, yeah, I go, Yeah you were hot.
Speaker 1: You're hot. Man. If they're ray coming out there, any
Speaker 1: dogs in the house, I said, Man, y'all this way,
Speaker 1: Oh y'all in the back, Yeah, yeah, they over there listen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I wish that's that's somebody.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I'm going off topic a little bit based on the
Speaker 3: question that was asked where I already answered though Ray Lewis,
Speaker 3: Ray Lewis, Lorenzo O'Neil, Denzel Washington, and Dion Sanders. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I wish people would have had
Speaker 3: the opportunity to talk to these individuals. Let's say, if
Speaker 3: you have an issue in life, you know, and if
Speaker 3: they were therapists, the way they can command the heir
Speaker 3: when they talk, man, it's it's it's something they should
Speaker 3: have been preachers. They should be arenz O'Neil man. I
Speaker 3: haven't seen Zoe, and so long Zoe. If you see this, Man,
Speaker 3: I love you and Ray.
Speaker 1: You know, Ray and I.
Speaker 2: This is a funny thing.
Speaker 3: Ray and I we read a scripture every morning for
Speaker 3: a decade straight, every Sunday and every Sunday. And the
Speaker 3: funny thing about it is when we play the Ravens,
Speaker 3: we would read the scripture together at ten o'clock and
Speaker 3: then we meet up and we meet up at the
Speaker 3: fifty before the game, and then we go on the
Speaker 3: field and he can be talking, Oh.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm like, Ray, it's me baby.
Speaker 2: But it was so funny.
Speaker 1: Man. Now that's some of the stuff.
Speaker 3: But a question you asked earlier about what you missed
Speaker 3: about the game, That's what I missed, man. To compete
Speaker 3: me so the friendships and the relationships that I built
Speaker 3: throughout the years, and I really missed that.
Speaker 1: I really really do man, truly do man. Damn I
Speaker 1: missed him. Boys, Uh no place underscore like underscore homes
Speaker 1: donated twenty dollars. Oh Joe, don't embellish. Did Toby uh
Speaker 1: we gee wee? Is that the guy that wrote no
Speaker 1: Toby wig? Wait?
Speaker 2: Toby wig wig wait?
Speaker 1: Okay? Did he write all the lyrics or did you
Speaker 1: have some input speaking about excessive celebration with old Toby.
Speaker 1: You didn't do nothing, no Joe. He wrote the lyrics.
Speaker 3: He wrote, he wrote the lyrics, but it was perfect
Speaker 3: for me based on who I was, So the lyrics perfect.
Speaker 1: So I came with my own lyrics.
Speaker 3: But the NFL wouldn't They wouldn't clear it because when
Speaker 3: I when I, when I wrap, I like the curse.
Speaker 3: So we had to get clears from the NFL because, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is a super Bowl commercial. It's a super Bowl commercial,
Speaker 3: so you know they ain't playing by that. Oh no,
Speaker 3: they ain't playing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went with Toby lyrics because that is his profession.
Speaker 3: He's really good at what he what he does. Toby,
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this. I love you. But
Speaker 1: I was just grateful.
Speaker 3: I was gratefu for the opportunity to work to work
Speaker 3: with one of the one of the best artists in
Speaker 3: the game today, and it was it was dope.
Speaker 2: So right now I really think I'm a rapper, right.
Speaker 1: Rory donated twenty dollars and said, Meg the Stallion was on,
Speaker 1: I G Jam and nippleback. What music do you like
Speaker 1: that would be that would surprise people for me? Oh?
Speaker 1: Leonard Skinner.
Speaker 3: Home Alabama, Swede Home Malabama, free Bird, simple man boy.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love the wrestle of the free Bird. No.
Speaker 1: If I leave here tomorrowow, what do you still remember me? No?
Speaker 2: Free Bird Linnen Skinner, free Birds. But I love me
Speaker 2: some Skinner.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he was about to ask us
Speaker 1: some question about making this day. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know it like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I I don't know Meg either.
Speaker 1: I don't know she's that laund in the norm room.
Speaker 2: She is what I mean, I don't you know, I
Speaker 2: don't really listen to rap like that than.
Speaker 1: The swamp raised possle. So you don't know nobody this.
Speaker 1: They get the most swamp raised possile they bad. You
Speaker 1: get them with some good old white white potatoes and
Speaker 1: some young potatoes that you put that joke in the oven.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, so, I have a question. Would you have
Speaker 2: any interest in they making a science?
Speaker 1: And she stacked up a.
Speaker 2: Swamp, raised a swamp raised possible?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they got it.
Speaker 2: I can hook that up because no, no, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Good.
Speaker 2: Well, make up your mind.
Speaker 3: Now, you can't give someone You can't give someone credit
Speaker 3: based on from being stacked up and then say you
Speaker 3: don't want them?
Speaker 1: Can I can? I can? I give people the flowers?
Speaker 1: Oh Joe?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, why you don't want to give Dak a flowers?
Speaker 1: Lord, give you flowers? Did I not give Dak flowers
Speaker 1: last night? Jokay? You did? You did? You did? Unless
Speaker 1: you slap? Okay. Danny donated ten dollars. Hey you got Danny.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's not much, but I love you, Chad.
Speaker 1: It's my b day. And have a and you have
Speaker 1: a voice of an angel. Yeah yeah yeah, but hey,
Speaker 1: hey Danny, you have a birthday. Appreciated Danny. Happy birthday.
Speaker 1: I'm a sing, I'm a sing, Danny, Happy birthday, have mercy.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you. Yeah, happy birthday to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Happy birthday to my motherfucking dog my dude, Danny.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you. Yeah, thanks you it sound good.
Speaker 1: I stayed in range.
Speaker 3: When I go out of range, and that sound craz
Speaker 3: I had t Yeah, I gotta bring it down.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Hey solut Danny, appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Ten dollars homie, basically staying your staying your talking boys,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: You're exactly right until I get some vote. My vocal coach,
Speaker 3: my vocal coach. She moved, she moved a goddamn Netherlands.
Speaker 1: Okay, this out. Jerry Ly donated fifty dollars an ass
Speaker 1: unkin o jo much love. Hearing from the Asian community
Speaker 1: in Central Valley, California. I need to know. Does Chadr
Speaker 1: Sinko get more numbers than with you? Number seven? Let's
Speaker 1: get three hundred and fifty? Dan you that he gets
Speaker 1: does Cinco?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Does he? Oh? Okay? Does Chad Sinko get more numbers?
Speaker 1: Which means does he have better numbers more touchdowns with
Speaker 1: me with you than with me? No? Yes? Oh Lord,
Speaker 1: have mercy. Yes, you believe that I really don't understand
Speaker 1: the question he's saying. Do you believe that he's asking
Speaker 1: basically asking you? Do you believe John Alway would have
Speaker 1: had better numbers with you than with me. Well, if
Speaker 1: John Alway had me, then the numbers that I have
Speaker 1: right now would probably be double what they are your numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you put me in our offense. You put
Speaker 2: me in that offense.
Speaker 1: Boy out too much? No that you add lib too much?
Speaker 1: Like that you need lib? I did not.
Speaker 2: How you gonna tell you?
Speaker 3: I saw you do. No, you didn't. I don't ad lib.
Speaker 3: I don't add lib unless it's a song planned. I
Speaker 3: call Carson right now now. You need to call Carson
Speaker 3: right now. Cars a lot too. You think John, We're
Speaker 3: gonna say something against me, but you.
Speaker 1: Know you can't. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't add live in a time and offense though.
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Speaker 1: standy right, you can't. You can't. Not a man genius.
Speaker 3: I got a question and for the chat, y'all might
Speaker 3: be too lott young for this, but I know you
Speaker 3: canna remember. Please tell me remember the episode of The
Speaker 3: Cosby Show when the opera singer Blas said Old Domingo
Speaker 3: was on and he sang best of Memocho. You probably
Speaker 3: don't remember how you remember the episode? Oh my god,
Speaker 3: oh my goodness. Oh, one of the greatest episodes outside
Speaker 3: of the one where Little Rudy sang the song on
Speaker 3: the stairs when they had the baby, I forgot, I
Speaker 3: forgot the name of the song that they sang. The
Speaker 3: whole family performed on the stage. Dog that was class copy.
Speaker 3: Show was a really really good TV series, really good
Speaker 3: TV series.
Speaker 1: Rudy Husker grew up to be some type of woman
Speaker 1: for herself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rudy, Rudy Woody, real deal now, real deal.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, hey don't let real don't hey, don't mess
Speaker 1: this up. Real talk about you can't be on the
Speaker 1: show with no more come on now, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I just say, hey, you just let me talk because
Speaker 1: I don't want Red to cancelors Real Real Reil hold
Speaker 1: a lot of power. Real, We ain't mean no harm.
Speaker 1: We just you know, we just chewing the fact. It's
Speaker 1: just too home. Were just shooting the ship. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no ill intent.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Rodney Digg is my homeboy. Oh. In my opinion, always
Speaker 1: felt like you could have played the NBA A triple
Speaker 1: jumped in the Olympic. What do you think I wanted
Speaker 1: to be muscles? I wouldn't have too much muscles. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I got too big, Joe, I got too big, but
Speaker 1: I was I was an olimp a triple jumper. You
Speaker 1: know through the dess long jump, ran on the relay
Speaker 1: teams average thirty my senior year report a free point shot, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fifty two and three quarters. Fifty two and three quarters,
Speaker 1: still got the record.
Speaker 2: Who was playing with?
Speaker 1: Fifty two and fifty two? Now what you tell me?
Speaker 1: Were you who you was playing with? I need to
Speaker 1: see the competition? What was ocho one age? When it
Speaker 1: comes to me, there was no there was no competition.
Speaker 1: I just want you to check this out. O yo.
Speaker 1: In Georgia, Georgia, let me explain to you. In Georgia,
Speaker 1: let me tell you the guys that came out of
Speaker 1: class A myself, Herschel Walker, George Rogers, Champ Bailey, Garrison Hurst. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all those guys, uh double a what you call it
Speaker 1: was one class up? I think was te Quillo Spikes.
Speaker 1: The only guys. Now, this last crop that's come out
Speaker 1: cam was like upper class, like Folk five A, uh,
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara. But early on most of the guys came
Speaker 1: out of single day football.
Speaker 3: But I need to see I need to see this
Speaker 3: fifty two you talking about. I need to see the
Speaker 3: color level he was playing against.
Speaker 1: There was no competition. Oh oh, competation, thank you Okay, combination.
Speaker 1: I was in a class by myself. Do you understand that? Okay,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been here. It was just like Herschel.
Speaker 1: Herschel had thirty one hundred yards and forty five touch
Speaker 1: downs the senior year, and mean saying, you see how
Speaker 1: you looked as a freshman, So imagine that as a
Speaker 1: freshman rushed for sixteen hundred yards. What the hell you
Speaker 1: think you gonna do in high school? Right? Look at
Speaker 1: George Rogers won the Heisman troupe. What day you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna do in high school? Look at Garrison Hurts?
Speaker 1: What then you think you're gonna do in high school? Champ?
Speaker 1: Champ went to a class in high school, all that athleticism.
Speaker 1: He went to Charlton County. We played Well, I'm way
Speaker 1: older than Champ, but we played them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like Oh, I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: fifty two. But I gotta check. I got I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta check. I gotta see that. Oh Joe, let's
Speaker 1: play one on one if you, Oh Joe, I played
Speaker 1: once I got drafted. I played that. I played one
Speaker 1: more year after I got drafted. I went to I
Speaker 1: went to my hometown. I said, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: my last time ever playing on this court. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not losing. I said, y'all filled me with any
Speaker 1: five and I'm not losing. I walked out the court undefeated.
Speaker 1: Never played again. And that was it because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to. I didn't want to run the risk. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to run the risk of tearing the ac man.
Speaker 1: O Jo, I didn't do anything that could jeopardize football.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about right now, play me, says you.
Speaker 1: So good on Joe, O Joe. I haven't shot a
Speaker 1: basketball in thirty two years. I ain't rode a bike
Speaker 1: in forty years, and I could still get a ride
Speaker 1: ride a bike.
Speaker 2: It's called muscle memory. Either you got it or you don't.
Speaker 3: Are you that just told me that drop fifty two
Speaker 3: back then?
Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, now, oh, you ain't
Speaker 2: done it this alon, you can't do it.
Speaker 1: If you're shooting, you can shoot, Ojo. Are you Steph
Speaker 1: Curry or not? No? Are you Steph Curry or not?
Speaker 1: I ain't left board now, let alone chef's steath.
Speaker 3: If you got it. One thing about us black don't
Speaker 3: crack and we don't lose it. We just lose opportunities.
Speaker 3: So either you're gonna get on this court and play
Speaker 3: me one on one?
Speaker 2: Who scared of me?
Speaker 1: So now you want to be the man with two
Speaker 1: repaired heels? Oh now you're making excuses? Hey? Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you making excuses? I don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't care if he was in a wheelchair when
Speaker 2: we get on that court.
Speaker 1: I'm from the dunk on your ass? Uh? Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: you ain't dunking number doughnuts? That too? Okay? Damn KOs
Speaker 1: said donated twenty dollars as gems. Top five Martial Arts
Speaker 1: actors of all time? Dead or live? What? Bruce Lee
Speaker 1: number Bruce Lee number one?
Speaker 2: Chuck whoas over Van dam I'm gonna go hire.
Speaker 1: Did they give him no particular order?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Chuck Nards, Van Damn Bruce Lee, Jackie chan I was
Speaker 1: waiting on that one. And it's one more. Michael J. White,
Speaker 1: Michael J.
Speaker 3: White, he is he is in the martial arts the
Speaker 3: other guy from Gently to Movie Jently. I don't know
Speaker 3: that's that's his name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, jed Lye. Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think Michael Angelo.
Speaker 1: Jose Hallopeeno on a stick donated saying, Hey, o Jo,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to challenge Ojo on the Xbox to
Speaker 1: a game of FIFA, but he's been dunking me. So
Speaker 1: I figured this is the best way to contact him.
Speaker 1: Love you guys, please don't stop making the show. So
Speaker 1: Jose Hallopeen on a stick, say, you've been dunking it.
Speaker 1: He said he won't that smoke called FIFA.
Speaker 3: Well, technically, how I know Jose on the smoke CALLAPEO
Speaker 3: ain't really serious about no goddamn FIFA any even called
Speaker 3: motherfucking FIFA no more, It's called EA s C.
Speaker 1: So that let me know.
Speaker 2: He's sorry as hell.
Speaker 1: He said he want to beat you on whatever it's called,
Speaker 1: whatever you call it, I ain't he's gonna he gonna
Speaker 1: lose to me.
Speaker 2: He's gonna lose me because he even saying the title right.
Speaker 3: He know how to find me. Anybody in the game
Speaker 3: of the world knows my game at TAG and they
Speaker 3: know how to find me. I ain't hardly find you scared? Sure,
Speaker 3: please you scared? I ain't hard to find Are you scared?
Speaker 3: I mean I find I know even even if I'm scared,
Speaker 3: I ain't hard to find.
Speaker 1: All you got to do? Run up what you're running from?
Speaker 2: Want to say you don't want to want to play
Speaker 2: me one on one? Oh Joe, I have any reason?
Speaker 1: The last time, the last time.
Speaker 3: I can't about your surgeries. I don't care noting about
Speaker 3: your hip played me one on one. I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear none of all of it.
Speaker 1: But last time I've shot a basketball, I weighed about
Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve pounds. I'm about two forty seven,
Speaker 1: and I'm a lot more muscle bound now than I
Speaker 1: was then. What does muscle have to do?
Speaker 2: Dwight Howard muscle bound too?
Speaker 1: He ain't made no sense. He can't shoot? What a lick? Well?
Speaker 1: You what? You better go to the hoop. You better
Speaker 1: go to the hoop and try to lay it up.
Speaker 2: Go to the hoop and try to lay it.
Speaker 1: Up with Joe. Joe. See, I just hey, all we
Speaker 1: do is drive just like this here.
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine. I'm coming up right up under that,
Speaker 3: and I'm stilling the ball next. Oh lord, oh Joe,
Speaker 3: O Joe, you can't play no basketball. You didn't play
Speaker 3: basketball in high school?
Speaker 1: Yo, did you not listen to me when I told
Speaker 1: you multiple shows ago the NBA players come to train
Speaker 1: with me to help what They off the ball and
Speaker 1: come what and come out to the dribble. All I
Speaker 1: know on the All Area team. If you go back
Speaker 1: and look at nineteen, what with that eighty five or
Speaker 1: eighty six? I know two players made the team, Shannon
Speaker 1: Sharp and purpose Ellison. Everybody I'm talking about twenty twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. I want to play one on one at it.
Speaker 2: I come to l A. I come to LA get
Speaker 2: your camera crew so we can have some footage. We
Speaker 2: we nightcap.
Speaker 1: I say what, I'll tell you one one. I'll play
Speaker 1: you in the basketball. You come in the gym and
Speaker 1: work out with me. We don't put on that.
Speaker 2: Boxing right now. I cannot lift anybody got to do
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: Oh look at hey, Look at holy Field. Holy Field lifted.
Speaker 1: Please please please understand.
Speaker 2: I cannot lift weights. I can only do work right now,
Speaker 2: and like.
Speaker 1: The ability to do something. Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson has
Speaker 1: the abil.
Speaker 3: He cannot lift heavyweights right now because I have got
Speaker 3: nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: I cannot shoot like basketballs right now. You understand I'm
Speaker 1: training yes you can. Are you training for miss Olimpia?
Speaker 1: I've trained to put these pythons round your deck. IM
Speaker 1: about to put a draymon on you first thing I see.
Speaker 1: You'll put that draymon on you. You see that right there.
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna have him go sleep, beat.
Speaker 1: You down, beat your old man down too. Yeah, pis
Speaker 1: steelers though THEYD fifty dollars an ass. If you guys
Speaker 1: switch positions in your career, who would have excelled in
Speaker 1: a new position? Also, when are you bringing Laportier down
Speaker 1: here to Canada? Hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: First of all, oh't you see I played wide receiver
Speaker 1: at least for two months. He ain't ever played tight end?
Speaker 1: What you man? Ever? I played running back? I played
Speaker 1: running back. We are tight end in the NFL? Well,
Speaker 1: I ain't.
Speaker 3: I ain't built to be no tight end. So it's
Speaker 3: a hypothetical question that just really doesn't make no sense.
Speaker 3: But honestly, I'm just a better player all around. So
Speaker 3: regards of what position I would play, obviously it.
Speaker 1: Would be me.
Speaker 3: No common sense tell you that, no commisation. Yeah matter
Speaker 3: if I played tight end, give me let me.
Speaker 1: Throw your little last all over the place, the way. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got obviously hypothetically speaking, I would be two twenty eight.
Speaker 2: With these feet shy eight.
Speaker 1: I promise you that you're gonna beat it through twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Know you not you have what I had, but you
Speaker 1: having the feat that you got that you had when
Speaker 1: you played not in that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you're right. You're right, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: But uh you you will come work out with me? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't left
Speaker 1: to here. You can when the when? The when is
Speaker 1: the your boxing exhibitions February? Okay, once the fIF was
Speaker 1: that over with? Yeah, we're gonna put some once it's over.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact. You I can show matter of fact
Speaker 3: when y'all edit were talking about edit. The people can
Speaker 3: find the pictures where I was about two o five
Speaker 3: and the online I was huge.
Speaker 1: That was about two o five is huge. You've never
Speaker 1: been to twenty five. You can't be too twenty five, couldn't.
Speaker 3: There's footage on Twitter and Instagram on me beating Benching
Speaker 3: three fifteen. No, sir, this is when I was big.
Speaker 3: I tell you, I'm serious. It might have been twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: I was I looked like a I looked like a
Speaker 3: fucking tight end.
Speaker 1: I was huge. You did, you didn't see somebody gonna
Speaker 1: pull it, somebody gonna edit, somebody gonna pull it. I
Speaker 1: was huge? Any more? Ques, what you want to talk about? You?
Speaker 1: We got like five more minutes to go.
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling good today too. I've been I'm I've been talking.
Speaker 3: I've been talking like crazy.
Speaker 1: You got really, I mean you there, you got really? Oh.
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus and Ellen Lazar drop percentage on on
Speaker 1: target passes at twenty percent. The next worse is Van
Speaker 1: Jefferson at eighteen percent.
Speaker 2: Was Van Jefferson ever a healthy scratch?
Speaker 1: No? Oh yeah, remember they went out and got Odell
Speaker 1: with Van Jefferson there Pookah Nicoua is playing in front
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, sorry, yeah, he's been a healthy scratch. Ojoe,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, look you see you. What you're doing is
Speaker 1: that you're shooting a harbinger, which is the messenger, which
Speaker 1: is me.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, But your message is wrong.
Speaker 3: Why isn't the right You got the right message, but
Speaker 3: the wrong messages Because what you're saying is not the
Speaker 3: reason why he was a healthy scratch.
Speaker 2: Why did you a healthy scratch because oh he dropped ball?
Speaker 1: They don't even make no goddamn why you beat up
Speaker 1: the mail man for delivering the bills? You the one
Speaker 1: that got them? People? Is no, no, no, no, because
Speaker 1: all I didn't do my job.
Speaker 3: You are because you're saying he's a healthy scratch for
Speaker 3: the wrong reason.
Speaker 1: That's not the reason. I'm just telling you what was reported.
Speaker 3: But so you believe everything you read? Do you believe
Speaker 3: everything you read? Do you believe everything you read?
Speaker 1: Why so, why wasn't he Why wasn't he in uniform?
Speaker 1: And he's that's why.
Speaker 3: That's the first thing I said. That probably something internal
Speaker 3: that we don't know about. And goddamn whoever reported it
Speaker 3: just motherfucking guessing, Oh this is the reason, when that
Speaker 3: ain't even the goddamn reason, and we running with it
Speaker 3: when I know that's probably not it.
Speaker 2: I guarantee that because I your scratch.
Speaker 1: You know what he dropping to any balls, Let's visit
Speaker 1: the internal issue that he hadn't played. Well, that's not it,
Speaker 1: that's not it. Oh, hold on. Robert Solo, when asked
Speaker 1: why Alan was a healthy scratch. He know his play
Speaker 1: is not up to standard, Robert Sala Joe Cina Anderson
Speaker 1: just reported Robert Saler on why Alan Lazar was a
Speaker 1: healthy scratch. He knows his play is not his standard. Well,
Speaker 1: if that's the goddamn case, whoa, whoa, whoa. If he's no, no,
Speaker 1: no case, Robert Sala, let me finish, let me finish,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go.
Speaker 3: If Robert Salah said Allan Lazar's play is not up
Speaker 3: the standing, so he was a healthy scratch, they should have.
Speaker 1: Forfeited the whole fucking game because the whole offense ain't
Speaker 1: been up the standard since the season started. They she
Speaker 1: just forfeited the game because ain't.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody offensively done done ship, so say she's the
Speaker 3: first goddamn game man of Dolphins. I'm just I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: if that's the excuse you want to leave with, If
Speaker 3: that's excuse Robert Sala want to get a motherfucking media,
Speaker 3: that's some bullshit, bitch there, goddamn body, I'm taking a
Speaker 3: bad Oh my god, I'm just saying, if that's what
Speaker 3: you want to say, If that's what he want to say,
Speaker 3: his plate isn't up the saying this?
Speaker 2: What neither is the other?
Speaker 3: Motherfucking ten on the goddamn field, everybody, Why escape?
Speaker 1: I think you on first of all, I think you apology.
Speaker 1: You are an apology. I love you, I love you,
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm speaking my feelings. I'm speaking my
Speaker 1: feelings on that bullshit excuse.
Speaker 3: Don't coach, just use Allan as artist a goddamn scape
Speaker 3: go because she ain't going well.
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta I.
Speaker 3: Gotta find a way to get the heat off of
Speaker 3: I gotta find a way to put the heat on somebody.
Speaker 2: Oh you know who we're gonna pick on. We're gonna
Speaker 2: pick on. Motherfucker Oh me.
Speaker 1: You made me come out here and give Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: and give dak Press got an apology. I want my
Speaker 1: apology when I tried to check you apologize because you
Speaker 1: called me a lot. You say, you big ball head
Speaker 1: black lie, the out watered apology. And I know the
Speaker 1: people in the chat people, let's get a faith, do
Speaker 1: y'all do y'all want Chad to give me an apology?
Speaker 1: I think that people, the people in the chat, they
Speaker 1: better be on my side and see and see you bullshit.
Speaker 1: They did that.
Speaker 3: They do it over there in New York. Oh that's bullchive.
Speaker 3: Oh his play hasn't been a standard?
Speaker 1: Well, who motherfucker play has all over there has in
Speaker 1: week ten? Has been up the standard? Ojo, What you
Speaker 1: just told me? When I say you gotta have a belief,
Speaker 1: you say it's your job to do your job. Why
Speaker 1: are you worried about what somebody else is doing other
Speaker 1: than Alan Lazar. Let's talk about him. I'm just going
Speaker 1: by what you said.
Speaker 3: You bas well, based on what the coach said. The
Speaker 3: coach said Alan Lazar play wasn't up the part. That's
Speaker 3: why it was healthy scratch. And then my next bit was, well,
Speaker 3: who the fuck play has.
Speaker 2: Been up the park?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about him.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a team game. It's a team game,
Speaker 2: ain't it. It's a team game?
Speaker 1: About it. I'm just waiting on my apology.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, thank you, that's all.
Speaker 1: You have to do.
Speaker 2: But still, boy, hey, look, boy boy Roberts.
Speaker 1: I think he's slick. Boy.
Speaker 3: No, don't try, don't try. Don't try to put that
Speaker 3: on my dog. Don't try to put it on my dog.
Speaker 3: Oh his play, well, goddamn who plays another part. Yes,
Speaker 3: and like you, you, you're supposed to have apologized that
Speaker 3: he did. And I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I don't try. I believe.
Speaker 2: I try to tell you, I see the little game.
Speaker 2: I see the games they playing over there in New York.
Speaker 1: I see that.
Speaker 3: I read through all the little bullshit. I see what
Speaker 3: they're trying to do. I see what they're trying to do.
Speaker 3: If I tell you, I see what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: If I tell you duck smoked cigarettes, check his wing,
Speaker 1: he got to pack up under there.
Speaker 3: So when I tell you, some believe it, I know
Speaker 3: you are you? How do you not see what they're
Speaker 3: trying to do? How do you not see what they
Speaker 3: trying to see what you're trying to do? How do
Speaker 3: you not see what they're trying to see? What we
Speaker 3: got to find? Escapegoat?
Speaker 1: You know what, let's play. Let's let's put it on
Speaker 1: uncle Apology seventy.
Speaker 3: Let's hey, let's put it on Alan Lazar, you know,
Speaker 3: get some of the heat off the head coach and
Speaker 3: get somebody hit off Zach Wilson to get something.
Speaker 1: Guess guess what.
Speaker 3: Listen, stay with me now, guess what's gonna be the headline,
Speaker 3: oh Ala Lazaar bench because of he was a healthy scratch.
Speaker 1: That's all they gonna talk about. Watch Gary, That's all
Speaker 1: they gonna talk about talking about I was paul that
Speaker 1: somebody would say that about Allan.
Speaker 2: Hey, they think they.
Speaker 1: Slick over there in New York trying to put that now.
Speaker 1: They think they said Desmond Desmond buying them, donated ten
Speaker 1: dollars in Savannah in the house. Appreciate that dead Dad's
Speaker 1: wall bying them. Which state produces the best NFL players?
Speaker 1: Georgia of Florida, Florida, Florida closed. I get it's close.
Speaker 1: It's close.
Speaker 2: Close.
Speaker 1: Y'all got Florida, Florida. Okay, okay, because you talking about
Speaker 1: this clothes. I mean, if y'all get this talent, come
Speaker 1: out of there and now no disrespect. We y'all got
Speaker 1: some dog now. But Florida, boy, it's something in the water.
Speaker 1: But it is that. It's something in the water at
Speaker 1: Georgia dow wht them bulldogs kicking? What y'all Florida schools
Speaker 1: doing that? Huh? What to Florida school doing the Georgia
Speaker 1: bulldoll That wasn't a question. The question was asked, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: in Georgia. I've been on top Florida. But but you know, hey, look,
Speaker 1: I mean you know Georgia, Florida, Texas, California, they're probably
Speaker 1: Ohio something like that. Yeah, but we're in the top
Speaker 1: five for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely messed up, y'all. Top five?
Speaker 1: Did we did you? You didne mentioned Texas? Did you texta?
Speaker 1: Texas got Georgia, Florida, Texas, Cali, Ohio, Louisiana is up
Speaker 1: there to the boot. The boot got them to now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but at the southern state where it's warm down there
Speaker 1: year round, we get out there barefoot and no shirt,
Speaker 1: we running around on them on the dirt road or
Speaker 1: that black assphalt we get, we get, we get used
Speaker 1: to that, We get used to that. OYO seventy five percent.
Speaker 2: So you owe me an apology, But god damn and
Speaker 2: apologize already, not did y'all?
Speaker 1: Did y'all like O your apology? Do y'all? Ain't. I
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with that.
Speaker 3: Man, Apologize an apology is right.
Speaker 1: So I just want you to know the best apology
Speaker 1: is changed behavior. So don't you question uk what whatever
Speaker 1: we got, whatever we got, We have another question to dash,
Speaker 1: Oh shit, hey that one funny? Yeah, New York media.
Speaker 1: I know y'all gonna see this. Y'all ain't slick. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let you pull the wool over my eyes.
Speaker 1: You can pull over everybody else. Since most most top
Speaker 1: fifty NFL draft picks by home state since twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: Texas is number one thirty five right. Florida is number
Speaker 1: two at twenty nine, Georgia is number three at twenty six,
Speaker 1: California is number four at nineteen, and Louisiana is number
Speaker 1: five at fourteen.
Speaker 2: I love how we capped it off at twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying, we know we When you want
Speaker 1: to go back to your nineteen.
Speaker 2: Fifty, now I go to two thousand, two thousands than nine.
Speaker 1: Love, man, man, ain't nobody got all the man? We
Speaker 1: have to go back there. You see what it is.
Speaker 1: It's only three and so it's close. You tried to
Speaker 1: make it seem like y'all have fifty. We got ten.
Speaker 1: It's close. I told you, I said it's close.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by Texas, given how big Texas.
Speaker 2: Is said is huge, right? Good high school football, good.
Speaker 1: Texas probably got more people than Georgia and Florida combined.
Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised, right, But I'm surprised that California.
Speaker 1: Because California got forty million people, it got more people
Speaker 1: than any by in the state. So I'm surprised that
Speaker 1: they don't have more, aren't you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's definitely when I think about California. For
Speaker 3: some reason, all the linemen in the quarterbacks come from California,
Speaker 3: they do. All the linemen in the quarterback come from California.
Speaker 3: We have your position here and there, yeah, but more
Speaker 3: so from the South. All the scale position players come
Speaker 3: from And every blue every blue moon, you know, you
Speaker 3: sprinkle a nice legit one, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cause you get CJ. He's from California. You get a
Speaker 1: bright young he's from California. Yeah. Yeah, somebody's funny.
Speaker 2: It's always been like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And uh, well what do you call him? He's
Speaker 1: not I think, uh, Caleb Williams. I think he's from
Speaker 1: d C Okay DMV area. I think he's from Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so, he's not from Calumn. He just went
Speaker 1: to he went to well, he went to Oklahoma first
Speaker 1: and then transferred with the coach out there, guys, thank
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Speaker 1: got to get us the three fifty by Monday? Where
Speaker 1: were you get three thirty five? Let's go we we
Speaker 1: we we're nine, We're eight. We're eight subs away from
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty five thousand, Joe, eight subs away.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be and we got we got a Sunday Monday.
Speaker 1: We got two shows, so we got Saturday. So we
Speaker 1: got to average about fifteenth. We got to average about fifteenth,
Speaker 1: about five thousand a day in order to uh, in
Speaker 1: order to get that number. It's gonna be very very
Speaker 1: special because you know, our end goal is obviously to
Speaker 1: get a million subs. We gotta get a million. That's
Speaker 1: how go. Yeah, and then you know two more questions.
Speaker 2: In fact, did you hear from the dollar yet?
Speaker 1: But what what do you mean by what? I don't talk? Uh?
Speaker 1: What you call him? Say? Hey, McLendon donated ten dollars.
Speaker 1: I want to give you ot your munch bank for
Speaker 1: putting in work. My question for both of you is
Speaker 1: with dv's. Okay, what DB's gave y'all fits and your
Speaker 1: day player? What a guy I think that made me?
Speaker 1: They come to Blair. I am is Alba Lewis long,
Speaker 1: six to two. He was six to two, could play inside,
Speaker 1: could play outside, came from gramblin State. Feathery becausetantly gave
Speaker 1: me a different look I made. He made, He made me.
Speaker 1: He forced me to become what I became because I
Speaker 1: knew if I could beat him, I could beat anybody.
Speaker 1: And so he had the most impact. That says, okay,
Speaker 1: in order for you to beat what you think you
Speaker 1: can be, you have to consistently beat him. And I
Speaker 1: knew I was legit when he was in Kansas City
Speaker 1: and the Raiders signed. If he was the number one,
Speaker 1: he was the number one free agent. Because I was
Speaker 1: cooking the Raiders, I couldn't have had nothing. Nobody could
Speaker 1: do anything with me. T Matt Andie Anderson, none of
Speaker 1: them of Washington, none of them. They couldn't see me.
Speaker 1: I cooked them all. So they went and got average.
Speaker 1: He slowed me down, but he ain't stopped me. He
Speaker 1: slowed me down, but he didn't stopping, which Michael asked
Speaker 1: better safety Steve had Watera, Troy Polamolo, Ronnie Lott all different,
Speaker 1: different because you do realize Ronnie came in as a corner.
Speaker 1: Ronnie was an All Pro at corner. Yeah, so people
Speaker 1: don't realize that he moved the safety he was. They were,
Speaker 1: they were, they were different. At Water was a.
Speaker 2: True strong safety on safety like Brian Dawkins, like b Dog.
Speaker 1: And although Troy they did. Troy was so.
Speaker 2: Skilled he lined up everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1: He'd be at the line of scrimmage and he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be in the hole or he's supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the two day bro Why I mean he I was.
Speaker 1: My last year was his rookie year because he had
Speaker 1: ED if I'm not mistaken, came out the same year,
Speaker 1: No Ed ED. No Ed came out my last year.
Speaker 1: Troy came out with Detroit. Did they both come out
Speaker 1: in three? I think I played against Ed one year.
Speaker 1: I think I played against Troy one year. Two It
Speaker 1: might have been. Did one come out know to it?
Speaker 1: One other came out? No? Three? Both came out No three?
Speaker 1: Both came out No. Three. Troy came out No. Three.
Speaker 1: A it came out and what O two? I think
Speaker 1: A it came out No. Two because Ed, I didn't
Speaker 1: play with Ed. I left. I left Baltimore after the
Speaker 1: one season, right and I think, I think, so where
Speaker 1: year the air come out? Oh two? A came out No. Two.
Speaker 1: But for me, the best safety that I ever broke down,
Speaker 1: that I ever played against, that I ever saw with
Speaker 1: Ed Reed for.
Speaker 3: Me, for me was Ed and Ed and Troy, ED
Speaker 3: and Troy unbelievable. And the fact of the matter was
Speaker 3: they did things I call the exotic coverages. They did
Speaker 3: things that were very confusing that no other team could
Speaker 3: do because of the way the defense was constructed. There
Speaker 3: was no weakness.
Speaker 1: There was no weakness in the secondary, there was no
Speaker 1: weakness at the front line, and they did some of
Speaker 1: the craziest stuff.
Speaker 2: Just like you mentioned, Troy, we don't know what the damn.
Speaker 3: Coverage is because everybody the goddamn line of scrimmage, everybody
Speaker 3: as soon as the ball snapped, everybody running to where
Speaker 3: they supposed to be, and you gotta hold the.
Speaker 2: Ball because you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: And previously, somebody asked a question about what dB gave
Speaker 3: the most fits, and for me, it really wasn't.
Speaker 1: A dB in itself outside of what outside of what
Speaker 1: Revers did. But early in my career, the good, the
Speaker 1: good battles where I had to I had to. I
Speaker 1: had to, you know, time of Shoes tight I, Taylor,
Speaker 1: Lee Boden, who else? Man? Who else?
Speaker 3: Is no Chris mccallison like you got you gotta be
Speaker 3: on you gotta be you gotta be on your game.
Speaker 3: I had to be on a game every time. I mean, though,
Speaker 3: those those are something that I can remember. Those battles
Speaker 3: were really really good. They were really really good with them.
Speaker 3: It was it was back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 1: And boy, the thing for me is that when we
Speaker 1: played physical corners, was not getting into a physical battle
Speaker 1: with them because time right. But for me, I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna lose it. But then I get I I forget
Speaker 1: trying to go out supposed to be trying to catch
Speaker 1: a past instead of just be deal about the dB
Speaker 1: And a lot of times, like we played James Hasty
Speaker 1: and Hasta, I know you're gonna see this him, bro,
Speaker 1: I just be like I mean, sometimes I would just
Speaker 1: go out there and like, hey, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to catch your pasts. I just want to go out
Speaker 1: there and fight it. I just want to go out
Speaker 1: there and try to run slap over the top of it.
Speaker 1: I want to throw don't throw me, No, don't even
Speaker 1: throw the ball by. We don't even look right because
Speaker 1: I ain't even looking to get over. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: to run right over. I'm just gonna run and when
Speaker 1: he don't move, I'm gonna put my helmet right up
Speaker 1: on his chin, right oh, James DC. Even though we homeboys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just something about like, Okay, I know he
Speaker 1: was gonna be dirty with me, and I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: be dirty with him. But Bro, Kansas City is just
Speaker 1: like bro you in Kansas City, So I know we homeboy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw that is shot the window for the day.
Speaker 1: For the day. I ain't gonna cut you, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna cheap shot you. But you know you're gonna get
Speaker 1: this work though. Oh yeah, And if I get a
Speaker 1: chance to crack back, I'm gonna try to declete you.
Speaker 1: Get him out of it. I gotta get oh Joe,
Speaker 1: I gotta get it. But they were so different. Troy
Speaker 1: probably was the most athletic. Yeah, Ronnie probably had the
Speaker 1: most impact.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: But See, the thing is is that when they played
Speaker 1: back then, Ronnie would have been suspended. Man, you can't
Speaker 1: hear people like Ronnie was hitting people like Ed was.
Speaker 2: Out of the league suspended.
Speaker 1: You see Kareem Jackson, You see how Kareem Jackson is
Speaker 1: about to miss six games? That the way Ronnie? Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh you want to let's talk about O Joe. They
Speaker 1: suspended him for hitting Joshua Dobbs. It was a thirty
Speaker 1: one and they ran a quarterback power. Kareem Jackson comes
Speaker 1: and here seing me this chance with his help. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: you're not afforded the same protection as a runner, as
Speaker 1: a receiver, as a quarterback in the pocket. He is
Speaker 1: a runner. It's thirty one. You no longer get those protections.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? What do you do? On
Speaker 1: thirty one? I'm not gonna let you fall forward? And
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not. If I hit him in his legs,
Speaker 1: he gonna fall for the first down. He said, I'm
Speaker 1: gona hit him in his mouth.
Speaker 2: So as a defender, what do you do?
Speaker 3: Because they've handicapped, they've handicapped and came the game uh
Speaker 3: to a point where it makes no sense for you
Speaker 3: just can't you can't do.
Speaker 1: Anything you can't. And my pushback is as a runner,
Speaker 1: you're not affording the protection as a receiver in the
Speaker 1: air or a quarterback that's in the pocket. You don't.
Speaker 1: You are a runner. So what am I? So? How
Speaker 1: am I supposed especially? Oh yo, we come in this way,
Speaker 1: it's thirty one. If I tackle you at the legs,
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? You're gonna fall for the first
Speaker 1: door for the first down. I'm trying to hit you
Speaker 1: up top to keep you. That's why, like guys tackling
Speaker 1: the guy around the round the legs on the one
Speaker 1: yard line, he's gonna fall it the zone for.
Speaker 2: A touchdown exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to keep him getting that first down.
Speaker 1: I will hit you in your mouth. And you're a runner, yeah, Dug.
Speaker 1: Next the advice I got for a quarterback. When you
Speaker 1: see a safety like Kareem Jackson come barreling down, Doug, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get hit slide. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to tell you. Makes no sense, not in that situation.
Speaker 1: Not in that situation. No, he's a runner. He's not
Speaker 1: afforded protections of a defensives receiver. He's not affording the
Speaker 1: protection of a quarterback that's in the pocket. He's running
Speaker 1: the football. He's a running back. You would have never
Speaker 1: The question is, would you have a call that play
Speaker 1: if it was a running back. No, because that's what
Speaker 1: Joshua Dobbs is. The moment that he he has is
Speaker 1: like a power quarterback power and he tucks that ball
Speaker 1: in his arm. He's a runner. He's a runner.
Speaker 2: He's a runner.
Speaker 1: And me too. And I'm trying to run through his ass, Paul,
Speaker 1: But I've tried to hit it. That's what I he coming.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hit him Dan in his mouth. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna get this first down. It's gonna be fourth down.
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna go for it on fourth. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit you. I'm gonna hit you, Daniel Chest as hard
Speaker 1: as I can, get fined, get suspended to Ojo, because
Speaker 1: what you're telling me, if your quarterback, if you're a coach,
Speaker 1: don't care any more than to have you run it
Speaker 1: if he's not protecting you. Was should I? What did
Speaker 1: Tom Brady say? It's not the defensive players job to
Speaker 1: protect the offensive places of players? Yeah, so funny, that's
Speaker 1: what I think of you.
Speaker 2: What the NFL is doing.
Speaker 3: Is the NFL is now putting the defensive players in
Speaker 3: harm way because now you're gonna start trying to tackle
Speaker 3: in a way that you can tackle, a way that
Speaker 3: you haven't been able to play all your life, and
Speaker 3: start trying to do something you're not.
Speaker 2: Supposed to do, and you can hurt yourself.
Speaker 1: And you remember Oto when they started by the heads
Speaker 1: and guys started hitting guys in the knees and turning
Speaker 1: the A c L T the X c ls. You
Speaker 1: can't win.
Speaker 2: You can't win for losing. You can't you can't can't
Speaker 2: win for losing.
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