1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: It is a Thursday. Tom Brady stops my live in 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. This in Chicago is the Herd. Wherever you 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: us part of your day. John Harbaugh five year deal, 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: is going to be the head coach of the New 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: York Giants, and that's where we begin today. If you 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: want to go from a bad team in the NFL 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: to a good team in the NFL, there's only one 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: thing you can absolutely control. Hire the best coach on 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: the market, whatever it costs, whatever it takes. You can 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback top five. He could stink. Players get hurt. 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Coaches don't. John harbbo is the best resume and is 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: the best culture builder on the market, and the Giants 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: smartly hired him first, meaning they'll get the best pick 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: of the assistant coaches and coordinators on the market. There's 23 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: very little you can control in the NFL. You can 24 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: control hiring the first coach, getting the best assistance, and 25 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: hiring the best resume. Yes, I know New York is 26 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: a tough market. The media is scary, but that's not 27 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: why the Jets and the Giants have been hasmatt spills 28 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: for a decade plus. They have been because they went 29 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: cheap and exparah Manlett head coach. The last time the 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Giants were good, it was Tom Cofflin, who coached at 31 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Boston College at the time, beat Notre Dame who was 32 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: number one, and went to Jacksonville. There was no experimenting. 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: He was a leader, a culture builder, successful. I look 34 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: at Aaron Glenn and the New York Jets. You're not 35 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: asking him to coach, You're asking him to fix a 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: completely broken culture. And I don't think Aaron Glenn's good enough. 37 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: And clearly all the guys after Conflin weren't good enough. 38 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: These nine coaching openings in the NFL now eight, they're 39 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: not looking for scheme guy. They're not looking for guy 40 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: that's good in the whiteboard. They're looking for CEOs Okay, Harball, 41 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: this is a job for a hardball, Like Jim to 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers, John to the Giants, this is a job 43 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: for a hardball. The Giants didn't need an offensive coordinator, 44 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: they needed a crisis coordinator. And similar to Mike Vrabel 45 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: and New England, the day you high John Harbaugh, he 46 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: is immediately the best coach in the division. Say it 47 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: out loud, Nick Seriani, Brian Schottenheimer, Dan Quinn, John Harball. 48 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: In a couple of those instances, it's not even close. 49 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: And the Giants have a lot of pieces. So for 50 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: four years in a row, I have picked a team 51 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: successfully four for four pat in the back that would 52 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: double their win total. The New York Giants this morning, 53 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: four and thirteen this year are minimum double the win 54 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: total next year. My guess they get the ten to 55 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: eleven because like when Brady went to Tampa and Tom 56 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Brady could have chosen any team, but he chose that 57 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Tampa team that was about five hundred, that had a 58 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: star receiver, that had really good pass rushers, Like the 59 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Giants had a pretty good old line. Left tackle was good, 60 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: but they needed a right tackle and the Bucks drafted 61 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Tristan wurs Well what do you know. The Giants need 62 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: a right tackle, and it is an unbelievably good edge 63 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: rusher and offensive tackle draft. Sometimes you get lucky. The 64 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Giants need what this draft provides. In fact, they could 65 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: move down a couple of spots, accumulate more picks, and 66 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: perhaps still get one of the two best tackles on 67 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: the market. Weapons they've got them winning coach. For the 68 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: last several years, the Giants have been hiring Belichick, tree guys, 69 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: finger crossers, coordinators. None of it works. Harbaugh's proven confidence, 70 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: proven culture builder. And I know you don't want to 71 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: hear this. I know you're looking this morning down at 72 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. But the Giant are the Jets. 73 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Since Coughlin, with a trophy room with better archive footage, 74 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: you have been the Jets. Now the Jets are still 75 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: trying to dig their way, and the Jets seemingly keep 76 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: grabbing a shovel and digging deeper. But the Giants officially 77 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: didn't get a scheme guy. They got a culture guy, 78 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Vrabel Jim Harbaugh. This is a job that needs not superman, 79 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: harball man, and they got him. Here's Albert Brewery yesterday 80 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: on Harball and the Giants. 81 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: The Giants job, how attractive it is is largely dependent 82 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: on what you think of Jackson Dart. That said, they 83 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: have a lot of other things with the Giants, Like 84 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: you said, franchise left tackle and Andrew Thomas, franchise receiver 85 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: in In Malik Neighbors. On the defensive front, I mean, 86 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: my goodness, Brian Burns, Abdulla Carter, Dexter, Lawrence, you have 87 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: a chance to be dominant up front right shoot. And 88 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: this is why, like the last couple of years, I 89 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: felt like they were the team right on the edge. 90 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: But if you love Dart, I think it's got everything 91 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: that you'd want. State of ownership, all of that. 92 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's talk about a team that is 93 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: still looking for a coach. And whereas the Giants bottomed out, 94 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: they didn't want to for all these years, the Steelers 95 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: keep saying we're not bottoming out. The Steelers have this 96 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: under five hundred phobia, which is remarkable because there's four 97 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: times evidence right in front of them. Think about this. 98 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: Four division winners. I'm not talking just playoff teams. Four 99 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: division winners, Bears, Patriots, Jaggs, Carolina lost twelve games last season. 100 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: This isn't the NBA where you're drafting eighteen and nineteen 101 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: year olds. They're not even mature enough, old enough at 102 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: the hotel bar to have a cocktail. This isn't baseball 103 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: where there's nobody you can draft on a college that 104 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: comes into your Major League baseball team and changes outcomes. 105 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: This is the NFL, where it happens all the time. 106 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon, always talks about this that 107 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: people overestimate the downside to risk and failure. It's never 108 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: as bad as you think. Kyle Shanahan four times in 109 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco has been under five hundred. Think about that? 110 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Is he a failure four times? Would you rather be 111 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco or the Steelers since twenty seventeen, I don't 112 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: think it's close. For the record, the Texans bottomed out 113 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: the next year. They had double digit wins. That's the 114 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: team that just beat you on Monday Night. And also, 115 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: nine of the fourteen playoff quarterbacks are top ten picks. Right, 116 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: you can get to Lamar Jackson, maybe you're lucky and 117 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers falls out of cow, but seventy percent of 118 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: the playoff quarterbacks were top ten picks, meaning it's okay 119 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: to have a bad year. 120 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: It's not. 121 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: The NBA in baseball doesn't take years. NBA makes trading impossible. 122 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: The NFL encourages it. So the Steelers have convinced themselves 123 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: their house is charming. Yeah, maybe we'll fix just you know, 124 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: one of the guest rooms. It's like, no, you've got 125 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: turquoise tile in three bathrooms, in the kitchen. You see 126 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: your house as charming a lot of other people see 127 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: it as outdated and weird. It's time to take a 128 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: swing Pittsburgh. They've fallen in love with the house. And 129 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: the house isn't just a couple of screws there, a 130 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: cabinet shelf there, You've got turkoise tiles all over the place. 131 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Art Rooney on the Rebuild. 132 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: Standards. 133 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: Try to compete to win a championship every year. 134 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say, well, you know, we're going 135 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: to take a couple of years to figure this out 136 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: and then well then we'll try to compete. 137 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 5: So I think you try every year. 138 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, and as I said, some years 139 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: you have the horses to really get there, some years 140 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: you don't. 141 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 5: But you try every year. 142 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got four examples this year. Division winning teams 143 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: that have twelve losses last year. This isn't basketball football, 144 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: it's it's not any other sport. It's the NFL. Go 145 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: look at the Houston Texans recent history. Go look at 146 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. It takes about one year to 147 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: be bad. That's about it. One year at six and eleven, 148 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: you compete your butt off, you lose some close games. 149 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Six and eleven, you get the eighth pick. But if 150 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: you start looking, we put it up for the TV 151 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: audience where they draft, you may look into Lamar Jackson, 152 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: but it's much easier to get that quarterback, or at 153 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: least the starting point top ten, eleven, twelve pick. Then 154 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: you don't have have to give up the entire farm 155 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: to get to four. So the Texans were three and thirteen, 156 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: had the number two pick. C J. Stroud, Demiko Ryans. 157 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: What do you know? Ten and seven? It just I 158 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: don't know what they're afraid of. It's the under five 159 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: hundred phobia. I don't get it. I never have. There's 160 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: major evidence that one. Remember the Rams won the Super Bowl. 161 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: Then they thought were too expensive, We're too old, We're 162 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna have two year rebuilt. It didn't even take two years. 163 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I think there were five and twelve one the next 164 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: year They've been a playoff team since. So the Rams 165 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: and I had talked to people in the building. They 166 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: thought it was probably a two year deal to get younger, 167 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: less expensive and rebuild around Matt Stafford. It took a year, 168 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: That's all it took. They're a playoff team the next year. 169 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: It have been since Tom Brady's around the corner. J Mack, 170 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: I know you don't love Big Blue, but John Harbaugh, 171 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: this is a job for a Harbaugh, Jim West John 172 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: in New York. It feels like it's gonna work. Get 173 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: the right tackle. You got the rush ends Burns and 174 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: Abduall Carter, you got the weapons and Scataboo and neighbors 175 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: and the left tackle, Jackson Dart. Stay out of the 176 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: blue tent. I'll call it right now. Ten and seven. 177 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: Okay, So it's interesting. I just looked up their opponents 178 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 4: for next season. Are you ready for this time? We 179 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: don't have to schedule order, but we have the opponents. Okay, 180 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: all right, I know you're terrified. 181 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: Finally we can't get into it. Do I get the 182 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys twice? 183 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: You do get the Cowboys twice, Yes, and Washington as well. 184 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: But you have the AFC South Jacksonville, Houston, Indy, and Tennessee. 185 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: Two of those teams made the playoffs. But then the 186 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: tough one the NFC West Colin Rams, Niners, Seahawks, Cardinals. 187 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: They have two trips as of now to the West 188 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: Coast at Seattle at the Rams, they also have to 189 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: go to Houston for the rest, and they have to 190 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: go to Detroit as well. 191 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: For the record, Stafford'll be thirty eight if he's the starter, 192 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: and the Rams almost lost to Carolina twice this year. 193 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: They did almost by the way, So eight of the 194 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: Giant seventeen opponents are playoff teams this year. 195 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: Half, what's the big deal? 196 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: That's a brutal schedule, my friend, Hi, I'll push back 197 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: against the ten wins, that's for sure. 198 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the schedule. People always go their schedules easy. Well, 199 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: couldn't I argue Brock Purty and the Niners have an 200 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: easy schedule. That's why successful. You're tough to win the games. Well, 201 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: New England's schedule is I don't know. I watched them 202 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: in a playoff game. You got to win the games. 203 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't care how easier schedule. It's like college football. 204 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: There's not you know, a committee on this stuff. San 205 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Francisco had an easier schedule. I watched the Niners play 206 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: this year when they lost all those players to injuries? 207 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: How easy was? It didn't look that easy to me? 208 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: And they were still banging on people. So I think 209 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: you got to win game everybody. Oh, New England's schedule is. 210 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I watched them last weekend dominate a playoff game against 211 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: Jim Harbon Herbert. I think they're good. Oh, we got 212 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to this. 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It just this game feels so big. 230 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Division rivals Shanahan and Mike McDonald and with that, Tom 231 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Brady is going to be there forty nine or Seahawks 232 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: for Fox. This is a I mean, this is honestly 233 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: this game is I mean, I feel it like I 234 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: It's Thursday and I can feel it. What do you 235 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: make Because I've defended quarterbacks who throw picks. Staffords had 236 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: seven and seven games. I've defended Andrew Luck for years. 237 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: You were an outliner. You didn't throw a lot of them. 238 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Purty does, Donald does? How do you explain Donald's struggles 239 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: with interceptions in mostly big games? How do you explain it? 240 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: Well, it's it's certainly a problem I think when you 241 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 6: get to these big moments in big games, whether that's 242 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 6: you know, certainly playoffs or some of these games have 243 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 6: happened at the end of the year determined whether going 244 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 6: to get in or not. The margin and there when 245 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 6: you play good teams is just very small. So that's 246 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 6: where the fundamentals come into play. You have to, you know, 247 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 6: in order to throw the ball accurate, okay, and if 248 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: you throw it accurately, make a decisions, you're not going 249 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 6: to throw a lot interceptions. 250 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 5: So like you know, Aaron Rodgers is a great example 251 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 5: of that. 252 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: If your mechanics are a little off or you're not 253 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 6: you know that accurate, and you get late in the season, 254 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 6: there's a little wet conditions, a little windy conditions, you're 255 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 6: playing against a defense that's got a good rush and 256 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 6: a good coverage scheme, so you're a little unsure where 257 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 6: you're throwing. That's where all the problems come into play. 258 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 6: So it's over time. You need to refine your techniques 259 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: so that when you get these big moments, you're as 260 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 6: accurate as you can possibly be because you have the 261 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 6: least margin of ere And then you need coaches that 262 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: are stressing you in practice all the time so that 263 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 6: you learn to deal with the stress emotion that you 264 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 6: feel when you need to perform at a high level. 265 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 6: So this is not a game where you know, it's 266 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 6: very hard to overcome turnovers in the NFL. Last week 267 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 6: I think was very much an anomaly for the forty 268 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 6: nine Ers. They lost the turnover battle to the Eagles 269 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 6: and still won the game, the Eagles playing very poorly. 270 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 5: We covered that game. 271 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 6: The forty nine Ers are gonna have to play a 272 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 6: great game against Seattle. This defense is entirely different than 273 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 6: the ones. 274 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: That they faced. 275 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: And you saw what happened in the Week eighteen game 276 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 6: with the Niners and the Seahawks. Niners just couldn't break 277 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 6: any tackles. There wasn't much action in the past game. 278 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 6: I'm really interested to see how coach Shanahan kind of 279 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 6: devises a game plan that gives his guys the best 280 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 6: opportunity possible. The loss of Kittle last week hurts, but 281 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 6: everyone's been kind of writing the Niners off all year. 282 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 6: They've won i think eight of nine, which is ridiculous 283 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 6: considering all their injuries. 284 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 5: But I'm really. 285 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 6: Excited to go up there and check this game out 286 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 6: in Seattle. It's going to be so loud, this place 287 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 6: is going to be rocking. This is going to be 288 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 6: one of the great games of the weekend. 289 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny they're going to go in as 290 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: an underdog. Tom, You did not go in as an 291 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: underdog very often. But I said earlier this week, I 292 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: can see Seattle, and this is what you went into 293 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: games knowing you were the better team and being cautious. 294 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: In fact, if you go look at your Super Bowl history, 295 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: not a lot of first quarter scoring. You had a 296 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: quarterback to advantage. You quarterback, you get a coaching advantage. 297 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: You often were at least as good, generally the better team. 298 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: So my take is, if I'm Seattle, my thing is 299 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Seattle's going to play kind of cautiously thinking we got 300 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: the deeper, better roster. We're at home. How do the Niners? 301 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: And again, you weren't in this position a lot. They're 302 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: not as deep as Seattle, and they're on the road 303 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: and they come out of a physically exhausting game against Philadelphia. Yeah, 304 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: when you were the rare underdog, does it change the 305 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: game plan the mindset of how you attack it? Early? 306 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 6: I think there's a part of the game where you 307 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 6: realize this is playoff football. There's nothing tomorrow that's guaranteed. 308 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 6: There's sixty to seventy plays left in this game. Look 309 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 6: with Seattle's defense. Last time the Niners played them, they 310 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 6: had like less than fifty plays I think it was 311 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 6: like forty three plays or something in the game. They 312 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 6: lost the time of possession almost two to one. So 313 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 6: it's really interesting to see this game because how challenging 314 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 6: it's going to be for these forty nine ers to 315 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 6: go in there as the underdog coming off last week's 316 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 6: game and then still having to emotionally get up for 317 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 6: an environment that is really hostile to the opposing team. 318 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 6: The Niners can do it. They've been there before. They've 319 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 6: played the Seahawks a lot. It's not like there's going 320 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 6: to be some intimidation. It's just do they have enough firepower? 321 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 6: Do they have enough? Can they just find a way 322 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 6: through complimentary football? Through what they've done defensively? I thought 323 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 6: defensively last week they were just awesome. They played so hard. 324 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 6: They have such a great play style of the Niners defense. 325 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 6: They can play that way again and biden enough time. 326 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 6: The forty nine Ers have shown a little magic late 327 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 6: in the season that they can figure out how to 328 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 6: come back and win. 329 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 5: A lot of these games, even if it's really close. 330 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: I remember you and Peyton Manning both faced that great 331 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: Seattle defense. It got bad for Peyton really fast. But 332 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: I do remember, I remember how you attacked it, and 333 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: you made sure when you're caught the ball, move forward, 334 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: don't go sideline. The sideline they'll strip the ball. And 335 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: I do feel Seattle has that because Witherspoon is so 336 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: aggressive and so strong. The way to beat I'm wondering 337 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: if the way to beat this Seattle is a little 338 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: like the way you beat them, which is guys five 339 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: yards four yards of the pap is fine, don't try 340 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: to get I mean, I think this Seattle defense looks 341 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: a little like the one you face, which is hyper aggressive, 342 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: seeking turnovers super fast. Do you see any similarities. 343 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 6: They close space as well as any defense in the league. 344 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 6: As soon as the ball's caught, boom, there's guys on him, 345 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 6: there's linebacker's hitting you. Erniest Jones been phenomena. Reek Willens 346 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 6: got tremendous speed. He covers up so much wrong with 347 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 6: the Spoons phenomena. Eve unworried that the rookie is insane. 348 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 6: They've got this kind of swarming defense. Wherever the ball goes, 349 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 6: it's like there's these like scud missiles that are just 350 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 6: flying in to hit the ball carrier's It's a fascinating defense. 351 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 6: And then they got one of the most underrated defensive 352 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 6: lines in the league. I think the interior defensive line 353 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 6: is phenomenal. They've got four edge guys they rotate in 354 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 6: that are all kind of unique. They have different traits. 355 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 6: They really challenge the tackles. There's a reason why they 356 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 6: were the top scoring defense in the league. They just 357 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 6: have really suffocated these offenses by taking the space and 358 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 6: just making the field feel like it's so much smaller. 359 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: So they haven't allowed like one hundred yard rusher in 360 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 6: you know, a season and a half or something like that. 361 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 6: It's been insane. Their tackling is good, their pass defense 362 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 6: is elite. Their coverage schemes are really tricky for the quarterback. 363 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 6: You need a very kind of diversified set of weapons 364 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 6: on offense in order to move the ball. 365 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 5: And they don't give up a ton of big plays. 366 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 6: So they're gonna have to drive the ball down the field. 367 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 6: The Niners are going to have to keep it a 368 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 6: low scoring game. Look in the Week eighteen game, it 369 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 6: was thirteen to three at one point, and then the 370 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 6: ball got intercepted when Party threw it to McCaffrey, ball 371 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 6: got batted up in the air. 372 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 5: Could have been thirteen ten, could have been very tight game. 373 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 6: Instead, one little mistake like that, one little batted ball 374 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 6: and the game is over. 375 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: So Matt Stafford Texas. Then he goes to Georgia. Then 376 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: he goes to a dome. Now he's in La It's 377 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: not exactly the harshest environments in his life. And there 378 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: he goes And I've told you this before. I thought 379 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: you were the best cold weather thrower I've ever seen 380 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: in my life. But Stafford's whole career has been domes 381 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: in warm weather. And it's so far and it Sunday 382 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: is supposed to be feel like minus nine for you, 383 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, Michigan, New England. But I remember, I've told 384 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: you before. I see pregame shots of guys you faced 385 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: in Foxboro and I'd be like, oh, Tom's won. It's 386 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: an hour before we get Tom's one. How do you psychologically? 387 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: How do you psychologically when the environment's not ideal? How 388 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: do you get out of that space and not think 389 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: about it and not let it affect you. 390 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great question, Colin, and it's it's almost there. 391 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, there could be a mental part to it. A 392 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 5: lot of it is. 393 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 6: There's a physical element to dealing with the cold. It's 394 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 6: not just mental toughness. It's also the team that has 395 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 6: the advantage is the one that practice is in it 396 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 6: all the time. And when we were in Foxboro, we 397 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 6: practice outdoor. We had like a nice indoor facility. We 398 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 6: used to look at it all the time and be like, man, 399 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 6: why don't we ever go in there? It's been a 400 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 6: nice actually maybe going and Bill would be like, we're outside, 401 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 6: you know, And it's just your body acclimated over the 402 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 6: course of a long season to you know, the warm 403 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 6: weather in the summer, as it dropped through the fall 404 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 6: and then into the winter, you had to deal with 405 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 6: twenty degree weather, fifteen degree weather with twenty mine on 406 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: hour winds, and over time you just learned how to 407 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 6: deal with I knew exactly how many layers of clothes 408 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: to put on per the temperature, and I was always going, Okay, 409 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 6: you don't want to be like Roufi from Toy Story, 410 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 6: where you got so. 411 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 5: Much damn clothes on you can't move the ball. 412 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 6: So you've got to be still have just enough layers 413 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: on to keep you warm, but not too much where 414 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 6: you or restricted it anyway. You know, the big lineman 415 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 6: they got so much insulation. You know, they got a 416 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 6: lot of body fats, so they're not going to be 417 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 6: the ones that are cold. But it's kind of the 418 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 6: skill players that have, you know, got to use their 419 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 6: hands and the gloves and all kind of the fine 420 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 6: motor skills you need in the really cold weather. And 421 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 6: Matt did play in Detroit for a long time and 422 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 6: in that division you did go outside to Chicago in 423 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 6: Green Bay. It's not like he hasn't played in it. 424 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: But I will say when I went to Tampa after 425 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 6: my time in New England, it didn't take me very 426 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 6: long to get very soft. 427 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: It took to the cold weather and we ended up going. 428 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 6: To Green Bay in the NFC Championship game my first year, 429 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: and very fortunately the game wasn't that cold. It was 430 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 6: like thirty two thirty four degrees at kickoff. It wasn't 431 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 6: minus nine. That is really cold. And that's a big 432 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 6: advantage for Chicago because Chicago has played in these conditions. 433 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 6: Now for the last six weeks, it's been terrible weather 434 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 6: in the Midwest. They played against Cleveland in the freezing cold. 435 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 6: Caleb looked like it was just like he was playing 436 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 6: at the coliseum and l He's firing that ball over 437 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 6: the field. He's a really unique player. They've got a 438 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: really unique team if there's a team that can figure 439 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 6: it out. And I love the Rams all year with 440 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 6: their kind of their diversification of what they do in offense. 441 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 6: Tight ends, receivers, run game. Everyone touches it and that's 442 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 6: the moving target. Sean keeps everyone out balance. This is 443 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 6: going to be another terrific matchup. I'm so excited to 444 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 6: see the winner of this game. 445 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: Oh same here. So Josh Allen, you know you can do. 446 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: I remember an ELI team that went on the road 447 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: and kept winning road games. Burrow got to a super 448 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: Bowl with a bunch of road It's hard. So you know, 449 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo's already jammed up in the Northeast. Then they go 450 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: down to Florida, then their home. Now they go out 451 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: to Mile High and I'm thinking to myself, man, and 452 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: now Josh is not one hundred percent. They're down to 453 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: three active wide receivers. And then part of me thinks, 454 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's that's what Superman needs. Now's the phone booth 455 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: go to your care. Was there a game where you're 456 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: down two receivers, it's a second straight roady you mostly 457 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: at homes and that you really felt, man, we are 458 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: this thing is holding on by a thread. I've got 459 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: a slot receiver from Boise State. I'm crossing my fingers 460 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: James Cook's the ankle doesn't go. Did you ever have 461 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: a moment like that and what did it play into 462 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: it emotionally and physically how it turned out? 463 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? Interesting. 464 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 6: We twenty thirteen, we had kind of a rash injuries 465 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 6: in that season. 466 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: Gronk got injured, we were down. 467 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 6: We went to Denver in the championship game, we lost 468 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 6: all our backs. We brought in Stephen Jackson to play. 469 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 6: It was just a hard year, losing backs, losing tight ends, 470 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 6: kind of offensive line in and out. We're dealing with 471 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 6: rookie receivers on the road in the championship game, and 472 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 6: we still made. 473 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 5: It a game. It was really close. 474 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 6: I mean, we really could have made some plays early 475 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 6: in the game to kind of give us a little momentum, 476 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 6: but because we didn't play very well early. I remember 477 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 6: I missed the pass to Julian across the field on 478 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 6: kind of that would it gave us a lot of 479 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 6: moment You just get behind, and when you get behind 480 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 6: and you don't have all your weapons, it's really hard 481 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 6: to dig yourself out of a hole. Like even a 482 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: Niner game against the Eagles last week. The Niners have 483 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 6: been very you know, obviously, so many injuries, they've been 484 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 6: beaten up all year long. They go into the Eagles 485 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 6: and they got off to a good start. They went 486 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 6: down the field and scored right away, and I was like, 487 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: Holy chow, this is awesome. You know, I wasn't expecting 488 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 6: that against that kind of great Eagles defense. 489 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: But that just injects a lot. 490 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 6: Of life into, you know, the visiting team and also 491 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 6: deflates the crowd of the home team because they're like, 492 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 6: oh god, so right away you shut them up. So 493 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 6: that's what I think Buffalo needs to do. I know 494 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 6: they're depleted. Their pass game has been a little volatile 495 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 6: this year. They do have an incredible run game, a 496 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 6: very good run blocking offensive line, and they've got a 497 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 6: really challenging Broncos defense. They're going against another defense that's 498 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 6: very similar to Seattle, really unique structure of defense, really 499 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 6: well coached. 500 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 5: They're always on the details of. 501 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 6: Nuances and then you know, Josh has got a great 502 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 6: opportunity to you know, this is this is the game 503 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: for him. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of career 504 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 6: defining games for quarterbacks, and when you're a veteran quarterback 505 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 6: and you're not dealing with Patrick Mahomes anymore, and that's 506 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 6: been kind of a bit of a kryptonite for the 507 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: Bills over the years. They're looking at like, Okay, this 508 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 6: is this is the time for you know who. They 509 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 6: feel Josh one of the best quarterbacks in ac to 510 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 6: go out there and have his year. He won the 511 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 6: MVP last year. He's got a great chance to go 512 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 6: on the road. I know he's a little bit under man, 513 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 6: but you know, that happens and Denver may not have everybody. 514 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: Denver could lose somebody in the first quarter of the game. 515 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 6: You don't know how it's going to play out. But 516 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 6: it's hard to it's hard to not love the Buffalo 517 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 6: Bills in this story. And you know, I think it 518 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 6: would be just incredible for their fan base, who have been, 519 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 6: you know, so enthusiastic about this team to finally get 520 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 6: over the hump and then make it to you know, 521 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 6: a championship game. It's gonna be a tough battle, but 522 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 6: it's a just again another great game. 523 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: You're former a dynasty, the Patriots and the Texans. I 524 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: think i'd feel better about it for Drake May if 525 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: it was year seven. Famously, you had talked to Jay 526 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: Lazer at one point it was in camp, and you said, 527 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: you know, I think I've seen everything. I've got the 528 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: answers to the test. You don't have that, Drake. Drake 529 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: May doesn't have the answers to all the test questions. 530 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: And Houston's defense, maybe it's not the Ray Lewis, Ravens, Tom. 531 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: You can turn the sound down. It just looks longer, faster, 532 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: and stronger that everybody in the league. It's it is 533 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: justin Herbert looked out, overwhelmed. Do you worry that Drake 534 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: just hasn't faced anything close to this this year? 535 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 5: Well? It is interesting. 536 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 6: I think the Patriots, you know, they haven't had you know, 537 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 6: I would say when you look at their schedule of 538 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 6: the quality of competition hasn't been you know what, some 539 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 6: other teams may have it. Now, that doesn't matter because 540 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 6: that's not the Patriots' fault. You know, you play who's 541 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 6: on the schedule, and however those teams are playing, you know, 542 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 6: they line you up and you've got to go out 543 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 6: there and be who you're going to be. You're now 544 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 6: into the final eight. Who is the best eight teams 545 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 6: in football? They've earned it. The teams that got the 546 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 6: buy had the best seasons in their conferences. The teams 547 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 6: the other three teams that are playing per conference have 548 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 6: already won a playoff game. They're riding high on confidence. 549 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 6: They feel like, hey, we can hang with anybody. And 550 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 6: I thought the Patriots played off some last week too, 551 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 6: and the Patriots had a great game. 552 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 5: I mean, this is. 553 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 6: Going to be you know, I'm not Drake is a 554 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: really poised, composed kid. The Patriot organization knows how to 555 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 6: deal with these type of atmospheres. The fan base they are, 556 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 6: they've been waiting for this since I left. It's going 557 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 6: to be rocking Foxborough. It's a tough place to play, 558 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 6: it's going to be cold. But this defensive Houston is 559 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 6: ridiculous and they could put a lot pressure on you. 560 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: So I'm excited. 561 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: I'm excited about how what does Josh do to try 562 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 6: to keep some of the risk, you know, mitigated from 563 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 6: from what Drake's done this year. 564 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 5: And Drake's played. 565 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 6: Phenomenal and he's throwing the ball so well, so accurate. 566 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 6: Downfield throws are awesome. His escapability, his ability to move 567 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: in the pocket, his relatability with this teammate. There's so 568 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 6: much to love about him as a player. And that's 569 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 6: why the Patriots are in this position. So they they 570 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 6: are very high expectations in Foxborough. I mean, they're not believing. 571 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: They don't think that, you know, they're thinking one thing, 572 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 6: that they're going to go in there and. 573 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 5: Kick some butt. But Houston's going to have a lot 574 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 5: to say about that too. 575 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: Finally, I remember, and I think it's hard because you 576 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: were so good to the very end. Two years after 577 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you retired, you would have still been a top six quarterback. 578 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: Aaron I thought had a really good year all things 579 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: considered that he lost DK metcalf. The on line was 580 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: work in progress, not a consistent run game, more of 581 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: a defensive culture. And I remember your retirement video. It 582 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: was emotional. You were on the beach, you were sitting 583 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: down by yourself. Did you and so Aaron's in that 584 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: space now, did you have an epiphany? Was it a 585 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: drive around the block. Did you wake up? Was it 586 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: a dream? What got you to the I can still play, 587 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I could still win a lot of games, and I 588 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: could still met the playoffs. I'm going to call it 589 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: a career. Do you remember the moment, because I think 590 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: Aaron could have a moment like that in the next 591 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: three weeks. 592 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was. You know, my last season was tough. 593 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 6: I was going through a lot of you know, just 594 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 6: a personal you know, a family issue, and it was 595 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: a challenge and it was a very you know, it 596 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 6: just took a lot out of me in terms of, 597 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: you know, my ability to continue to play. 598 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 5: And I you know, it's. 599 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 6: I had twenty three years of it, so I didn't 600 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 6: feel like I was missing anything retiring. I felt like, okay, 601 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 6: this time, I always had a goal. Forty five was 602 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 6: forty five years old. 603 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 5: I wanted to spend time with my kids. 604 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 6: I felt like, Okay, you know, now it's time for 605 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 6: me to be at all my kids games. You know, 606 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 6: they've been enough to the dad of their dad's games. 607 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 6: And Aaron's got his own decisions he's got to make. 608 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 6: He doesn't have kids, you know, he's trying to navigate 609 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 6: what he wants to do post career. It's hard to 610 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 6: give up football too. It's a it's something that we're 611 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 6: really good at. It's something you love to do. You 612 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 6: love being out there with your teammates. And I told 613 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 6: a friend the other day, when I got older, I 614 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: almost enjoyed practice more than playing, because playing it was 615 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: almost like it was a relief to win. And everyone 616 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 6: who's out there. I was like, what's another win going 617 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 6: to do for people? You know, it's never satisfying, even 618 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 6: for me, you know, sometimes winning and not winning like 619 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 6: you would expect. So I understood at that point, I 620 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 6: probably in my last season, like okay, this is this 621 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 6: is going to be my last time. 622 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 5: I try to put as much as I could into it. 623 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 6: I felt like I owed it to my teammates and 624 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 6: coaches to give them everything I had. I wish it 625 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 6: could have been a little bit better at the end, 626 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 6: but it was just a unique situation, a unique year 627 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 6: for Me's got that too, I mean, Aaron's got his 628 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 6: own ways that he deals with, you know, trying to 629 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 6: find solutions, and you know, I know it's it's he's 630 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 6: done some different things in the past. 631 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure he's trying to. 632 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 6: Figure out because football is like a marathon the season. 633 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 6: Everyone loves to run the first four miles of the marathon, 634 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 6: and everyone loves to run the last two miles of 635 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 6: the marathon. 636 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 5: But it's those middle it's. 637 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 6: Those middle twenty miles that are hard because kind of 638 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 6: the shine wears off after about a month, and now 639 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 6: you've got to dig deep into your preparation, into your 640 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 6: you know, into your body work, your treatments, you're you know, 641 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 6: you've got to dig deep with your team is and 642 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 6: over because it's such a long season, you need to 643 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 6: work really hard over the course of the off season 644 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 6: to kind of callish your body for what it takes 645 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 6: to be an NFL player. So to me, it's do 646 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 6: you want to make the commitment year round because if 647 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 6: you don't, well, then it's never going to turn out 648 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 6: well when the season happens. In order to be a 649 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 6: great NFL player, you've got to it and be foey 650 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 6: in and that's the only way your team's going to 651 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 6: have a chance to win, especially when you're starting quarterback. 652 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 6: And only Aaron can decide that for himself. 653 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: Well, Niners at the Seahawks the Pacific Northwest. I mean, honestly, 654 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: it's just you can see the game, you can see 655 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: the environment. You've had a great year at Fox, and 656 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: the world will be watching. My friend a great job 657 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: today and I can't wait to watch. 658 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 5: I can't wait to watch. 659 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 6: I got the best team on the field, our team 660 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 6: at Fox, our whole crew. We love being up there, 661 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 6: we love working together, we love kind of bringing our 662 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 6: love of the game to the fans. And where you're 663 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 6: going to see us Sunday afternoon or Seuesday, Saturday night, 664 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 6: It's going to be awesome. I'm bringing my ear plugs. 665 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 6: It's going to be loud. That environment is so cool. 666 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 6: I mean my ears are still bringing from the last 667 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 6: time I played at that stadium, and. 668 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 5: It's going to be rocking on Saturday night. 669 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: All Right, Tom Brady seven trophies, great sing Uh. 670 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: See you, but I'll see you hopefully next week. All Right. 671 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: That was really good stuff. There's a ton of good 672 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: stuff there. Yeah. I mean, Aaron's now married. I mean, 673 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: it's just there's a lot of different things that go 674 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: into play. I don't know, but it's Tom at the 675 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: end when he retired was still a top seven eight quarterback. 676 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: That's it's one thing if you're falling apart, but Brady 677 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of injuries. You know, you just 678 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: make decisions and it's life happens. 679 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 5: Uh Man. 680 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: That that forty nine er Seahawk game, that is one 681 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: for the ages we got. How lucky that we get 682 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: last week? I mean the games were credible in Chicago, 683 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: It's the Herd. 684 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 685 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: and Noon Easter not a em Pacific. 686 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: Saturday on Fox. 687 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 4: After dethroning the defending chance, Christian McCaffrey leads the Niners 688 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: against Sam Darnold in the top Sea did Seahawks the 689 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: Division Round Playoffs presented by Intuit TurboTax, Saturday, seven thirty 690 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 4: Eastern four to thirty Pacific on. 691 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: Fuck Obviously Saturday, It's Buffalo and Josh Allen at Denver. 692 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: Think about this. If Josh Allen was to win a 693 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, listen to this journey. He would have beaten 694 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: the Jags on the road Jags number eight defense. He 695 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: would then have to beat Denver on the road cross 696 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: country number three defense. He could eventually face the Houston 697 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: Texans on the road number two defense, and then eventually 698 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: he could face the Seattle Seahawks neutral site the number 699 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: one defense. If he wins, it is an all time list. 700 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: This with a wide receiver room that's down to three 701 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: active players. Brandon Cooks is one of them. He arrived 702 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: week thirteen. Keon Coleman's another one. He appears to be 703 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: a bust. It'll be a slot receiver and cross your fingers. 704 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: So the journey is this, This is an all timer. Now. 705 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: The good news is if you look at the quarterbacks remaining, 706 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent, but there's one old guy 707 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: that doesn't move around and a lot of inexperience. Bow Knicks, 708 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: Drake May, Sam Darnold doesn't have much of a rich 709 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: playoff history. Caleb Williams Brock pretty it's pretty clear when 710 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: you look at that list, who's got the most firepower. 711 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 1: Here was bow Knicks this week on facing Josh Allen. 712 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 4: He's incredible. 713 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 7: He's a you know, MVP of the league for a reason. 714 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 7: You know, he continues to make play after play when 715 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 7: sort of the game's not necessarily looking like he can 716 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 7: make the play, he just goes out there and you know, 717 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 7: does superhero stuff. It's one of those things where he 718 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 7: can do it all at a at a high level 719 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 7: and it's it's always been fun to watch. 720 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: You don't want to say now or never, but now 721 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: would be a good time because Mahomes is probably back 722 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: into it, justin Herbert probably gonna have both his tackles 723 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: next year. My guess is Joe Burrow or Lamar or 724 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: both will be back in it. It's not a now 725 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: or never, but I mean it's gonna be a big lift. 726 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: It's a lot of the best defenses. His wide receiver 727 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: group is breaking down, and Josh is probably eighty percent 728 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: to this point. I was really surprised by how they 729 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: played at Jacksonville. I really was. I thought. I mean 730 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: I watched Jacksonville play parts of every game and three 731 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: to four full games, and I thought they were more 732 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: consistent they were at home. Trevor Lawrence wasn't making mistakes. 733 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, a former teammate of Josh Allen, talked about 734 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: him yesterday to close our show out. 735 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 8: He's six foot five and just a machine and then 736 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 8: just a rocket of a arm. He was one of 737 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 8: the best teammates that I truly enjoyed being around. And 738 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 8: it was always light energy, like always having fun. Yeah, 739 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 8: when we get in the game, he would turn it on. 740 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 8: But it was always fun to go out and compete 741 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 8: with him because you know that he was gonna give 742 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 8: it as all. And that's why I always respected Josh. 743 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 8: And you know, the success that he's having it is 744 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 8: no surprise because he wants it. And I know how 745 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 8: bad he wants that Super Bowl too. 746 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Emmanuel talked about but you know, you tend 747 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: to think players make the coaches, but Emmanuel said, really, 748 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: the coaches largely make the players. Now I think that 749 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: is to a degree true. I think Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald, 750 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: Reggie White, Calvin Johnson, Josh Allen would win anywhere in 751 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: professional football. Now Wyoming, he didn't win, but he didn't 752 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: have you know, he wasn't as good as he is now. Obviously, 753 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: there are a handful of players who aren't really reliant 754 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: on systems or coaches to be successful. Now, you may 755 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: not hoist a trophy without the great coach to Jimmy Johnson, 756 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, without the without the Belichick, the Andy Reid. 757 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: But Josh is one of those players that kind of 758 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 1: falls into a Lawrence Taylor, Calvin Johnson, Aaron Donald, Regie White. 759 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't really matter where you put him. 760 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter you give offensive coach, defensive coach less 761 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: than stellar coordinator. They're just different. He is just different. 762 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: By the way, Brady was one of those. He won 763 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: with Charlie Weiss. He won in Tampa with Bruce Arians. 764 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, he went with Josh McDaniel. Some guys are 765 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: just going to succeed, but to get to the trophy room, 766 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: that's generally when you really need somebody to accompany you, 767 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: a king maker at some level. But if you look 768 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: at the potential journey for Josh Jags defense, Denver Defense, 769 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: Texans defense, Seahawks defense three neutral or three road one neutral, 770 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: that is a that is a lyft Joel Klatt around 771 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: the corner Kines Hoosiers. Monday, Greg Co said, well today 772 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: as well in Chicago, it's the hurt. 773 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 7: Yeahm