Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
Speaker 1: you a Charlotte Ether My love?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me back a podcast.
Speaker 1: I know a two time visitor. Only very special people get.
Speaker 2: To come back the life.
Speaker 1: I feel lucky to have you and we just had
Speaker 1: a really fun day. Thank you for being with me.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I love driving you around in my new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid.
Speaker 1: I know it's so spacious. Yes, we can just like
Speaker 1: stretch out and relax.
Speaker 2: I like being driven around by you. It was really fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun because we're here in la where we
Speaker 1: both live, but we've also both lived in New York
Speaker 1: and we had just rewatched The la Versions of Sex
Speaker 1: and the city where we came and like, I want
Speaker 1: to say, the year two thousand, like so long ago? Wow, crazy? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we went to so many places in the show
Speaker 1: that are really fun to look at just from an
Speaker 1: actor's standpoint, The Warner Brothers Lie and then we drove
Speaker 1: around today our neighborhood, and then we went up Beverly Glenn.
Speaker 1: We got pies at Winston Pies. We talked about good
Speaker 1: places to go. So I was just curious, like when
Speaker 1: did you move to LA, and how do you compare
Speaker 1: New York in La.
Speaker 2: Well, my family moved to LA when I was nine
Speaker 2: years old. Wow, And then I moved. I moved to Agra,
Speaker 2: so I was going to high school there and I
Speaker 2: started going auditions to become an actress. And then you know,
Speaker 2: I moved into the city. The minute I graduated high school,
Speaker 2: I moved to West Hollywood, and then I went to
Speaker 2: UCLA for a few years. But wow, yeah, I've lived
Speaker 2: in LA since I was nine.
Speaker 1: You must have so many memories, I do. Is it
Speaker 1: a good thing when you drive around and you think about, Oh,
Speaker 1: I remember my first audition at Warner Brothers, or I
Speaker 1: remember going here.
Speaker 2: It's nostalgic. I mean, there's definitely. I think LA is
Speaker 2: the kind of place. I don't know if you can relate.
Speaker 2: But sometimes I'm here and I love it, and other
Speaker 2: times I get really sick of it. But then I
Speaker 2: leave and then I miss it so much. When I
Speaker 2: come back, I remember why I love it.
Speaker 1: I mean one hundred percent. Absolutely. The whole time that
Speaker 1: we were doing the show, I had my house here.
Speaker 1: I got my house. So I think after the pilot
Speaker 1: and I remember Sara Jessica saying why did you do that?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, because it's like this tree
Speaker 1: house and I love it because there's a part of
Speaker 1: me that needs the nature and the calmness. But then
Speaker 1: you do get bored. You can get a little bored.
Speaker 2: Right think in La everyone's in the entertainment business. Okay,
Speaker 2: not everyone, but no, a lot of people. So everywhere
Speaker 2: you go, everyone's like, oh, my scrip my thing. That's true.
Speaker 2: So it is nice to meet people that are doing
Speaker 2: different things. But there's so many cool creative people here.
Speaker 2: I have so many friends here. That's one reason why
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: La absolutely mean too. I mean coming back, it's very
Speaker 1: easy when you've been gone, you know, because sometimes when
Speaker 1: we're on location or whatever, it's kind of hard. You're
Speaker 1: any different.
Speaker 2: We're in the winter and it's eighty degrees here today, Like,
Speaker 2: we cannot be that.
Speaker 1: Right, we cannot beat that. We had a fun little
Speaker 1: picnic with like lemonade and pies.
Speaker 2: That's my dream of I feel like I was on
Speaker 2: Sex City today.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad and you look very glamorous. It's very
Speaker 1: very more glamorous than me.
Speaker 2: I had to dress up with it being with the
Speaker 2: fashion icon.
Speaker 1: I kind of dress up and so not. I play
Speaker 1: a fashion icon, but I am not a fashion kind
Speaker 1: of are one. You're so sweet. I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think of myself that way because I do
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes in life, especially in La which the
Speaker 1: vibe is like really relaxed. Sometimes we're now I'm out
Speaker 1: in the world, like at the grocery store or whatever,
Speaker 1: I feel like people are like, oh, they're disappointed that
Speaker 1: you're not dressed. Yes, it's funny. I think you look
Speaker 1: very glamorous.
Speaker 2: I like, I'm not trying. I just have my like
Speaker 2: Schnell jacket and Chloe like, I'm not trying. I got here.
Speaker 1: It's because you're here.
Speaker 2: It's because you're here.
Speaker 1: It's only for you.
Speaker 2: Normally, I just throw on some yoga clothes I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, me too, And then people are like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like coms. I feel the pressure.
Speaker 2: You know what I do.
Speaker 1: I do, But you always look incredible. All right, let's
Speaker 1: compare when did you live in New York?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, I have a place in New York still. No,
Speaker 2: So I bought my apartment in two thousand and one
Speaker 2: and I still have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so smart. Yes, yes, I never bought.
Speaker 1: I always rented, and then it is a place there.
Speaker 1: I had a place that I really love right by
Speaker 1: the park, Central Park West. It was like where the
Speaker 1: fuddy duddy people, Charlotte. I know, right, so charlottecause I
Speaker 1: always had my dogs with me, right, So then I
Speaker 1: needed the park and I love the park. But then
Speaker 1: there came a time and it was like downtown is cooler, right,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so cool? And I mean I have
Speaker 1: friends who don't want to come, you know, north of
Speaker 1: fourteenth Street, and it's challenged, but I just go down.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 1: I go down. I get it. But now because I
Speaker 1: don't have a place anymore because my business manasure at
Speaker 1: a certain point was like that's not smart, and I like,
Speaker 1: all right, So now I stay in Airbnb. So you
Speaker 1: get to pick and choose and kind of live all
Speaker 1: the different.
Speaker 2: So what's your favorite neighborhood in New York.
Speaker 1: Well, we did a Brooklyn summer that's nice, incredible, Prospect
Speaker 1: Park incredible. But then last summer when we filmed the show,
Speaker 1: we stayed in the village, so it was pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the carry House is such a
Speaker 2: tourist Attrack I think I actually posed in front of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really don't like us. They're very mad at
Speaker 1: it because.
Speaker 2: Everyone's posing in front. You walk down that street, you
Speaker 2: find people posing there.
Speaker 1: I know twenty, including me seven. I think that's adorable.
Speaker 1: I walk on the other side and I try to
Speaker 1: rush by, but no one notices me because they're so
Speaker 1: busy taking their pictures. But they put a chain up.
Speaker 2: Now, so are the neighbors. They don't like it.
Speaker 1: It's not even the neighbors, it's the owner of the building.
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to say the address. Okay, okay everyone,
Speaker 1: but everybody knows and dress.
Speaker 2: Also, you know, the Sex and the City got me
Speaker 2: into Magnolia bakeryocakes, which I'm obsessed with.
Speaker 1: The last time we did a Hundai film, we went
Speaker 1: to the Magnolia. We sat on the bench. It was incredible.
Speaker 1: I love Magnolia. I love Winston Pie too. See now
Speaker 1: we're seeing I know the different places to go New
Speaker 1: York out.
Speaker 2: I told you got to try Beverly Hills Cookies. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm excited how they're sharing some places to Allied places
Speaker 1: for me to go. She told me some restaurants to
Speaker 1: go to. I love it.
Speaker 2: I mean, Beverly Hills Cookies was just my birthday and
Speaker 2: a friend sent me some and now I'm obsessed. They
Speaker 2: taste so good.
Speaker 1: So wait, so you still have your place in New York?
Speaker 1: How often do you get there?
Speaker 2: I mean I try to go a lot. I mean
Speaker 2: right now, since it is like fifteen degrees in New
Speaker 2: York and it's eighty degrees here, I'm pretty happy to
Speaker 2: be here. But no, I love going there. I do.
Speaker 1: That's so nice. You do both. That's good. That's the
Speaker 1: lot because.
Speaker 2: It's like an investment property as well, so different than
Speaker 2: having like a for sure B and B. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean that's so smart that you bought it and
Speaker 1: held on to it.
Speaker 2: I know, really a long time ago. Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really really good. I should have been so smart,
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, I was just busy.
Speaker 2: Buy in La, own property in LA.
Speaker 1: So I know, I know it's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1: No complaints here, no complaints here. You know, there's so
Speaker 1: many cliches about La. Do you find to be true?
Speaker 1: A cliche that you find to be true, and maybe
Speaker 1: one that you don't think is true.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the very worst thing about LA. I will
Speaker 2: just say the thing I hate about LA is the traffic.
Speaker 1: I mean, no joke.
Speaker 2: I mean you can sit in your car easily two
Speaker 2: hours a day just running some very basic errands. Like
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: This is true. But this is why I need to
Speaker 1: give you my list of Brentwood things, because see, I
Speaker 1: don't cross the four or five if I don't have
Speaker 1: I know that's smart. Do not like you got to
Speaker 1: get one of my fans are living over well, they
Speaker 1: need to come back.
Speaker 2: That's why I got into cooking and inviting people over.
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely key key, key, Like just get your life
Speaker 1: over here on the West Side and then you don't
Speaker 1: have to get in that mess. But yes, it's hard,
Speaker 1: and you know what I find interesting In New York,
Speaker 1: there's really bad traffic and people are like, well, LA
Speaker 1: can't be worse. I'm like, oh, unfortunately I can. But
Speaker 1: also sometimes you'll get stuck in New York. Like one time,
Speaker 1: I remember my parents were visiting in New York and
Speaker 1: we were trying to go see a play and we
Speaker 1: couldn't get off the Upper West Side to get to
Speaker 1: the play and we missed it. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: But couldn't you just park your car and take a
Speaker 2: subway or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but we were in a weird like
Speaker 1: where we were there was sub like and I think
Speaker 1: if I had my parents, I was less. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If it had been me, I would
Speaker 1: have been like, let's do it.
Speaker 2: I mean the upside to New York is like if
Speaker 2: there's terrible traffic. You know, they have great public transportation.
Speaker 1: Good point here they had point they do.
Speaker 2: They have a new train, they do, but it goes
Speaker 2: to like one place.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not practical, right, Listen, my kids have
Speaker 1: taken that train. Yeah, it goes to some kid places. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they love it.
Speaker 2: One cliche that is true is that the weather's awesome,
Speaker 2: right yeah. I mean, of course that we have some
Speaker 2: moments of bad weather, but the weather is pretty great.
Speaker 1: I mean, the weather is incredible and I do love it.
Speaker 1: I would say, I think there's a cliche. It's not
Speaker 1: exactly la, but it's an actress basic cliche. We talked
Speaker 1: about this a little bit earlier when we did go shopping,
Speaker 1: but we were comparing notes and really neither of us
Speaker 1: shop very much. I remember in time where every interview
Speaker 1: I did. They would say, either let's go shopping or
Speaker 1: where do you shop? Like it seemed to be what
Speaker 1: they thought we did with the majority of our time.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, yeah, I mean we're so used
Speaker 1: to fittings, Like I don't want to go try on
Speaker 1: close in a place for no reason.
Speaker 2: I don't really like shopping me. I mean occasionally, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't either. I like to have my places that
Speaker 1: I might go and pop my head in that are small,
Speaker 1: like where we went today the market where it's like
Speaker 1: own the owners there and it's really personal. I love that,
Speaker 1: But I don't want to go to a big store.
Speaker 1: I get very overwhelmed really quickly. I think that's a
Speaker 1: big misconception about actresses in general, because.
Speaker 2: We're kind of some like we're trying to get a job,
Speaker 2: or we're optioning a book, or we're you know, working
Speaker 2: on our next thing. Yeah, it's not like we're just
Speaker 2: running around shopping all the time.
Speaker 1: No, Like that's a crazy life, Like why I don't.
Speaker 2: Need Maybe it's because you were in like an iconic
Speaker 2: TV show where you had so many fabulous outfits.
Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, because technically, how do you get
Speaker 1: those outfits, right, you would theoretically have to shop. But
Speaker 1: then also, I mean I would think Charlotte would be online,
Speaker 1: you know, saying online. Right.
Speaker 2: No, It's so great when you like buy something online
Speaker 2: and it just comes to your house.
Speaker 1: I mean right, I love it, Like what do we
Speaker 1: do before that? Gosh, except I do remember, and I
Speaker 1: wonder if you have any memories. It just came to me.
Speaker 2: Fred Siegel, I know that popped in my mind when
Speaker 2: that used to be the spot. That and Barney's, Yeah,
Speaker 2: one of them is like this rain, both of them
Speaker 2: being gone crazy.
Speaker 1: When I drive by Barney's and Beverly Hills, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what it's messed up that it's not there.
Speaker 2: That was like the pinnacle I rememb when I first
Speaker 2: moved to LA and I was like this little small
Speaker 2: person with like really no money and be like Barney's
Speaker 2: is like the holy Grail of clothes. Like I felt
Speaker 2: like I couldn't afford anything, but I aspired to and
Speaker 2: walk around.
Speaker 1: You didn't even have to buy anything. It was just
Speaker 1: the vibe and Fred's Siegel. Also, I have a good
Speaker 1: nineties story of Fred Siegell. What I saw Alanis Morris
Speaker 1: at that one time. It was so exciting. It was
Speaker 1: with my girlfriend Melanie.
Speaker 2: I saw you, so that's like she was very it
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: The height of Atlantis time. And she was with this
Speaker 1: beautiful man and I had a golden fever puppy and
Speaker 1: the beautiful man wanted to say hi to the golden
Speaker 1: fever puppy. We were eating in that little cafe there
Speaker 1: at the Santa Alaica one and Alanis hung back in
Speaker 1: a way that made me wonder what was happening, Like,
Speaker 1: who wouldn't want to pet this beautiful puppy. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's Alana.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, try to breathe.
Speaker 1: Try to breathe, Try to breathe because I love her
Speaker 1: so much, so much. I just had that flash back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, fred Siegel was like the spot and Barney's
Speaker 1: was the whole.
Speaker 2: It is making a documentary about Barney no way, and
Speaker 2: he's gonna I'm sure we would love to interview. And
Speaker 2: I think he's doing trying to do like a TV
Speaker 2: show about the family dynasty of Barney's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of Barney stories. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've know a love. Just to give him a shot,
Speaker 1: we filmed him Barney's and then also started Jessica and
Speaker 1: I one time when shopping on a lunch break when
Speaker 1: we were filming there there it didn't It was kind
Speaker 1: of a mess. Our security guards had to get us out.
Speaker 1: It was literally a lunchtime at Barney's and the two
Speaker 1: of us thought we could go to the shoe department.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, everyone in Barney's just like ah.
Speaker 1: It was very bizarre, and we had tried to elude
Speaker 1: our security guys because we just wanted some us time,
Speaker 1: but one of them, Q had followed us and was hiding.
Speaker 2: That's cute. He's got his job and we needed It.
Speaker 1: Was really sweet. And then we had a time where
Speaker 1: we for some reason, I can't remember if it was
Speaker 1: the movie, they did windows and each character got designer
Speaker 1: and each window was a fairy tale. But our character
Speaker 1: and mine was pro as a schooler. Isn't that so amazing?
Speaker 1: And then we went to the party for that. And
Speaker 1: then my final Barney story is that when Barney's had
Speaker 1: already sadly closed and we started and just like that,
Speaker 1: we had our opening party there. It was so strange.
Speaker 1: You can rent it for events, but I think someone
Speaker 1: told me they were going to turn it into apartments,
Speaker 1: which could be really cool to live in Barney's.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, because you guys shot a lot of scenes
Speaker 2: in Barneys.
Speaker 1: We did. We went to Barney's pretty frequently. One time
Speaker 1: this was really fun too. This is a fun meme.
Speaker 1: One time Charlotte is volunteering at this place for people
Speaker 1: who are blind, and so she goes to Barney's with
Speaker 1: a Berbery eyepatch on and tries to see what it
Speaker 1: would be like to be blind. So there's a funny
Speaker 1: little picture of me in the shoe department with my
Speaker 1: eyes covered. And you remember the Sandy Bullock movie bird Box.
Speaker 2: Yes, when people.
Speaker 1: You have to blindfold so that they can't get you,
Speaker 1: and they put funny comparison memes.
Speaker 2: It was really adorable. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's very random.
Speaker 2: I want to have reference.
Speaker 3: Yes, audition stories, horror story.
Speaker 2: Do you have an audition? Well, do you remember this
Speaker 2: is before they had whatever GPS? Right, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you had this, but when Thomas guy, Yes, the
Speaker 2: Thomas guy, he's the auditioning in LA and you'd have
Speaker 2: like because I didn't really know the city that well.
Speaker 2: So you have this book and it's like page three
Speaker 2: hundred ninety seven forty one. Now they're like go to five, eight,
Speaker 2: six nine.
Speaker 1: You don't know. And then some of my pages would
Speaker 1: fall out because they were like the ones that we
Speaker 1: went to a lot, and so I'd be like, where'd
Speaker 1: the page going.
Speaker 2: Around the floor? We did you have this like where
Speaker 2: you brought different outfits in your car because maybe one
Speaker 2: role you went up for it was like the sweet
Speaker 2: innocent girl, another one was like the slutty whatever, and
Speaker 2: then you're like, oh, the sophisticated business woman. So I
Speaker 2: have like car exchanged while I was driving. It's really
Speaker 2: really unsafe, but I was just because I wasn't like
Speaker 2: a good place and all of the auditions, like it
Speaker 2: could take you like forty five minutes. Yeah, you had to,
Speaker 2: like you never knew.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you believe everything we went through?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: Now everyone's self tapes, So you use this, use the
Speaker 1: Thomas Thomas Guide. I mean, how would we have lived?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Now it's so easier, just like address band one tells
Speaker 2: you what to do.
Speaker 1: Thinking just like that Hyundai has that nice map. I
Speaker 1: mean I really dig that I need a kind of
Speaker 1: a large map. You know, it's not going to be
Speaker 1: hard to look at because you know, the I sight
Speaker 1: isn't what it used to be. So I'm excited. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about that nice big screen in the Hyundai. I'm
Speaker 1: digging it, I know, right, Yeah, Okay, horror story or
Speaker 1: just the Thomas Guide horror story about auditioning.
Speaker 2: I mean, what about you? Do you have one?
Speaker 1: I mean I have to dredge to come up with one.
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, I'm sure I have so many. I do.
Speaker 1: Remember this one time just floated through my head. You
Speaker 1: remember how like you would go and then they'd call
Speaker 1: you back, and they'd call you back, and they'd call
Speaker 1: you back, and then sometimes you wouldn't get it. One time,
Speaker 1: there was some movie. It was horrible, some horrible film.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember the name, and I really wanted
Speaker 1: it and I got really close. It was between me
Speaker 1: and one other girl, and in the end I didn't
Speaker 1: get it. The other girl got it, and I was
Speaker 1: like why why? And they said she was wearing red lipstick?
Speaker 2: What that makes no sense? I know, it was good,
Speaker 2: like you could just wear red lips.
Speaker 1: I was like, they could have asked me to wear
Speaker 1: red lips if it was one of those moments where
Speaker 1: you really go like, oh, okay, it's all ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything about this is ridiculous. Yeah, and it helped me
Speaker 1: see that. I think that's why I still remember it. Wow,
Speaker 1: Like that was like a valid a valid reason, like
Speaker 1: a valide.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I would go on an
Speaker 2: auditions and sometimes you could tell like, oh, these people
Speaker 2: really like me, like I have a good chance. And
Speaker 2: then there's occasionally go on auditions you're like, these people
Speaker 2: really hate me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, do you remember how they would interrupt
Speaker 1: you sometimes in the middle of a scene and be.
Speaker 2: Like thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I can't even believe that we lived
Speaker 1: through it all.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're right. Now everyone just puts like
Speaker 2: self tape, right.
Speaker 1: And I know people complain a lot about it, but
Speaker 1: at least no one's going to be like mean to you.
Speaker 2: But I miss like connecting with people in person, Like that's.
Speaker 1: True, but I feel like creatively, when you could connect,
Speaker 1: it was amazing. That was amazing, right because then you knew, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is door. You'd be like, what was your
Speaker 2: So did you just get offered the part in Sex
Speaker 2: and the City or did you have to audition.
Speaker 1: For it or like, what did you just kind of
Speaker 1: so I knew Darren Starr created the show because I've
Speaker 1: been on Melrose and he was I knew he had
Speaker 1: made a deal at HBO when we were like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: what's that going to be like? Because they really didn't
Speaker 1: have original programming so much. They just had Larry Sanders,
Speaker 1: which is a great show, which I was a guest
Speaker 1: star on, was amazing, but I couldn't picture Darren's show there.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, what's he going to do?
Speaker 1: And he said, now, he's going to do this thing
Speaker 1: based on this book by Kennis Bush Now and I
Speaker 1: read it and I oh, he sent it to me.
Speaker 1: He sent it to me with the letter that said,
Speaker 1: will you read the part of Carrie? Because they had
Speaker 1: wanted Sarah, but then she gotten cold feet. She was
Speaker 1: nervous about committing to television, and so they were trying
Speaker 1: to come up with a backup. But Carrie in the
Speaker 1: original script was a little bit like more than she
Speaker 1: ended up being under with Sarah Jessica's touch. So she
Speaker 1: was swearing and smoking and kind of really brash, and
Speaker 1: I just didn't think I could possibly play her. So
Speaker 1: I was like, Darren, I this is a mistake. I
Speaker 1: need to be this other girl.
Speaker 2: You told her, I need to be Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told Darren and he was like, are you sure?
Speaker 1: Because the way they described Carrie in the script was
Speaker 1: that she had the body of Heather Locklear and the
Speaker 1: brain of Dorothy Parker. And I was like, I'm neither.
Speaker 2: Of those things.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I could be that at the time,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm glad because I did really relate to Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Did you have to audition for they?
Speaker 1: So then he's like, no, no, no, oh, everybody one
Speaker 1: of those parts. I'm sure you were on some film
Speaker 1: or you would have also been in the mix. I
Speaker 1: feel like every woman in New York in LA was
Speaker 1: in the right. Yes, because it was so unique and
Speaker 1: so great because at that point there wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: filming in New York. So the idea of filming in
Speaker 1: New York about like something around women that's kind of
Speaker 1: unheard of. Right, So I had to test, Okay, do
Speaker 1: you remember when I did you have to.
Speaker 2: Test with other people? Like you saw other people.
Speaker 1: Other people, but Willie Garson, you know other people for
Speaker 1: other parts, right.
Speaker 2: Not like another actress for your part.
Speaker 1: I think there might have been one other actress who
Speaker 1: I kind of knew who I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: it was like people that you would see over and
Speaker 1: over again, did you have that? And she's a very
Speaker 1: nice person, she's listening, she's a very nice person. But
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, please, don't get it. And
Speaker 1: we were there. So there was like men and women,
Speaker 1: you know, for Big and then Willie was there. He
Speaker 1: was the only person I think for Stanford because Sara.
Speaker 2: About where other people like was Miranda and Samantha.
Speaker 1: I think there were Samanda Samantha's and Miranda's, but I
Speaker 1: think they'd already offered it to Kim, and I think
Speaker 1: Kim had also turned it down, and I think they
Speaker 1: were really torn about how funny those two parts. So
Speaker 1: there was a comedian there. I think I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: that's I wasn't thinking that, you know what. And then
Speaker 1: obviously they went more actory, but they just couldn't. They
Speaker 1: didn't exactly know what they were doing.
Speaker 2: But was Cynthia Nixon there?
Speaker 1: No, Cynthia was in New York. She had already read,
Speaker 1: she read pretty early, and she really wanted it. But
Speaker 1: they took forever to decide on any of us except
Speaker 1: for Kim and Sarah. That they'd offered it to write,
Speaker 1: but then Kim kept turning them down. Sarah got cold
Speaker 1: feet for a while, then kind of got back, you know,
Speaker 1: things had.
Speaker 2: Kim turn around, Like what happened with Like she just
Speaker 2: decided last minute.
Speaker 1: Darren talked her into it. I don't know how exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't know how exactly. I just know that both
Speaker 1: of them, they they were more well known than Cynthia,
Speaker 1: and I think it was known in the Broadway world.
Speaker 1: I had really only ever done Melrose, right, so they
Speaker 1: were both more more well known. I think back then
Speaker 1: you had to choose between film and TV. You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like now it's not. Yeah, yeah, now that's
Speaker 1: gone altogether. But I think back then, like once you
Speaker 1: did TV, even if it was HBO, you were thought
Speaker 1: of differently, you know what I'm saying. So I think
Speaker 1: that was some of the pressure for both of them.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure it's like everyone's trying to get
Speaker 2: into TV.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, that's because films, I mean making enough.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It's so sad because I love film obviously, Okay, story
Speaker 1: was it? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, when you got it? What did you do?
Speaker 2: What were you well?
Speaker 1: I was super nervous because they took forever to tell me,
Speaker 1: like you know you would. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever did this in the olden days when you would
Speaker 1: audition for something that was like a big deal, a
Speaker 1: big network deal. They had like a date that they
Speaker 1: had to tell you by. They waited till like midway
Speaker 1: through the day of the final date. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was so stressful, right, and I had gone to a
Speaker 1: movie to try to get through the day. And I
Speaker 1: remember it was in Santa Monica at the AMC and
Speaker 1: I was walking through that parking lot and I had
Speaker 1: my cranky big cell phone back then, you know what
Speaker 1: I manager. I was like I heard from that, and
Speaker 1: he was like, yes, you got it, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank god. But it was just like relieve, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I had built up so much
Speaker 1: angst at that point that I wasn't even happy. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think I was happy until we
Speaker 1: went to New York and then I was like whole
Speaker 1: world over up, you know, which was really fun. I know,
Speaker 1: it was exciting, and also it's just so exciting to
Speaker 1: be able to be in both worlds.
Speaker 2: That's great, you know, also, wouldn't it. Okay, this is
Speaker 2: just me interviewing you, but I would love to be
Speaker 2: like Patricia Field.
Speaker 1: Right. Oh, incredible, And do you imagine just.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, make me cool and then she just does.
Speaker 1: Right, whoa. It wasn't exactly like that because I was
Speaker 1: playing Charlotte right, I think, I mean, you were, well, yes, cool,
Speaker 1: but Charlotte right. And in my mind I had an
Speaker 1: image of what I thought she should be, and I
Speaker 1: went to the Upper east Side and did a lot
Speaker 1: of research. But Pat didn't necessarily agree with me.
Speaker 2: Okay, what were you thinking? And what was I was thinking?
Speaker 1: Like what I saw on the Upper east Side, like
Speaker 1: classic Ralph Lauren, long, straight brown hair, you know, like constrained. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's not really how Pat thinks. As we all know.
Speaker 1: She wow. I mean in the beginning, she tried to
Speaker 1: dress me in all kind of crazy things and I
Speaker 1: was like no, and then she was stressed. And then
Speaker 1: I remember one time Darren took me out to dinner.
Speaker 1: Whenever Darren called you to go out to dinner, you
Speaker 1: knew that you were in some trouble. So you were
Speaker 1: just waiting. You were just gossiping and talking until he
Speaker 1: told you what you were in trouble for. So we
Speaker 1: were walking home. We both lived on Central Park West
Speaker 1: at the time. We were walking home and I was like, Darren,
Speaker 1: what what is it? You know? We're walking home? And
Speaker 1: he said, I just want you to trust Pat because
Speaker 1: she knows better than you do.
Speaker 2: In other words, your taste is bad, so like, listen, right.
Speaker 1: Definitely, but at that point it wasn't even my taste.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I want a character to be
Speaker 1: identifiable as an Upper east Side but Pat was so
Speaker 1: downtown that I think her she found that boring right,
Speaker 1: so like and and I'm not saying that she was
Speaker 1: wrong because there is an episode where Charlotte goes back
Speaker 1: and has brunch with her college friends, and she realized.
Speaker 2: That's when you try to be like more like Samantha,
Speaker 2: and she tries to be more like you.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I realized, I'm the Samantha of my college friends,
Speaker 1: and I'm wearing a little tank top with a sweater tide.
Speaker 1: In my mind, that's how I thought Charlotte should dress
Speaker 1: the whole time. But Pat was way better. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Pat would twist things ironically,
Speaker 1: even for Charlotte. She's a brilliant yes, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: so easy as like make me cool, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up in suburbia and my family
Speaker 2: we didn't think a lot about clothes, Like we went
Speaker 2: to like Marshall's, you know what I mean. So when
Speaker 2: I started acting, I started going to like these fancy stores,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, I felt that way.
Speaker 2: I looked a little bit like a Mormon child. When I.
Speaker 1: Looked like a frumpy, preppy Southern child, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I wore wide maale corduoys with like
Speaker 1: ducks embroidered on them.
Speaker 2: That sounds cute.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was cuting that. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. It's interesting that we get to be different people, right.
Speaker 2: So if I didn't have help, I think I would
Speaker 2: have looked really bad. Like me to know that that's
Speaker 2: your makeup too was really questionable.
Speaker 1: I mean, weren't all of ours with our eyes.
Speaker 2: Without like being an actress and having like professional people
Speaker 2: be like, don't do that? Do that? You know?
Speaker 1: I would definitely oh, it's super helpful to have the pros.
Speaker 1: We need the pros for sure. All Right, thank you, Heather,
Speaker 1: and I want to say thank you to Hyundai for
Speaker 1: a really fun day.
Speaker 2: Thank you for this day.
Speaker 1: It was mean what a fun day. And you're a joy.
Speaker 2: Thanks for inviting me. You're amazed.
Speaker 1: Yay, let's go eat some more pie.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Okay, good
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