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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte Ether My love?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me back a podcast.

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Speaker 1: I know a two time visitor. Only very special people get.

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Speaker 2: To come back the life.

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Speaker 1: I feel lucky to have you and we just had

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Speaker 1: a really fun day. Thank you for being with me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love driving you around in my new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid.

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Speaker 1: I know it's so spacious. Yes, we can just like

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Speaker 1: stretch out and relax.

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Speaker 2: I like being driven around by you. It was really fun.

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Speaker 1: It was fun because we're here in la where we

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Speaker 1: both live, but we've also both lived in New York

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Speaker 1: and we had just rewatched The la Versions of Sex

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Speaker 1: and the city where we came and like, I want

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Speaker 1: to say, the year two thousand, like so long ago? Wow, crazy? Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we went to so many places in the show

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Speaker 1: that are really fun to look at just from an

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Speaker 1: actor's standpoint, The Warner Brothers Lie and then we drove

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Speaker 1: around today our neighborhood, and then we went up Beverly Glenn.

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Speaker 1: We got pies at Winston Pies. We talked about good

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Speaker 1: places to go. So I was just curious, like when

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Speaker 1: did you move to LA, and how do you compare

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Speaker 1: New York in La.

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Speaker 2: Well, my family moved to LA when I was nine

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Speaker 2: years old. Wow, And then I moved. I moved to Agra,

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Speaker 2: so I was going to high school there and I

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Speaker 2: started going auditions to become an actress. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: I moved into the city. The minute I graduated high school,

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Speaker 2: I moved to West Hollywood, and then I went to

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Speaker 2: UCLA for a few years. But wow, yeah, I've lived

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Speaker 2: in LA since I was nine.

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Speaker 1: You must have so many memories, I do. Is it

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Speaker 1: a good thing when you drive around and you think about, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I remember my first audition at Warner Brothers, or I

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Speaker 1: remember going here.

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Speaker 2: It's nostalgic. I mean, there's definitely. I think LA is

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Speaker 2: the kind of place. I don't know if you can relate.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes I'm here and I love it, and other

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Speaker 2: times I get really sick of it. But then I

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Speaker 2: come back, I remember why I love it.

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Speaker 1: I mean one hundred percent. Absolutely. The whole time that

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Speaker 1: we were doing the show, I had my house here.

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Speaker 1: I got my house. So I think after the pilot

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Speaker 1: and I remember Sara Jessica saying why did you do that?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, because it's like this tree

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Speaker 1: you do get bored. You can get a little bored.

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Speaker 2: Right think in La everyone's in the entertainment business. Okay,

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Speaker 2: not everyone, but no, a lot of people. So everywhere

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Speaker 2: you go, everyone's like, oh, my scrip my thing. That's true.

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Speaker 2: So it is nice to meet people that are doing

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Speaker 2: I have so many friends here. That's one reason why

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Speaker 1: La absolutely mean too. I mean coming back, it's very

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Speaker 2: We're in the winter and it's eighty degrees here today, Like,

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Speaker 1: Right, we cannot beat that. We had a fun little

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Speaker 2: That's my dream of I feel like I was on

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad and you look very glamorous. It's very

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Speaker 1: I kind of dress up and so not. I play

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Speaker 1: of are one. You're so sweet. I don't think. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think of myself that way because I do

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Speaker 2: I like, I'm not trying. I just have my like

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Speaker 1: It's because you're here.

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Speaker 2: Normally, I just throw on some yoga clothes I know.

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Speaker 1: compare when did you live in New York?

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, I have a place in New York still. No,

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Speaker 2: So I bought my apartment in two thousand and one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so smart. Yes, yes, I never bought.

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Speaker 1: I go down. I get it. But now because I

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Speaker 1: all right, So now I stay in Airbnb. So you

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Speaker 2: So what's your favorite neighborhood in New York.

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Speaker 1: Well, we did a Brooklyn summer that's nice, incredible, Prospect

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the carry House is such a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they really don't like us. They're very mad at

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Speaker 2: Everyone's posing in front. You walk down that street, you

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Speaker 1: I know twenty, including me seven. I think that's adorable.

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Speaker 2: Now, so are the neighbors. They don't like it.

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Speaker 1: It's not even the neighbors, it's the owner of the building.

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Speaker 1: We're not allowed to say the address. Okay, okay everyone,

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Speaker 2: Also, you know, the Sex and the City got me

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Speaker 1: The last time we did a Hundai film, we went

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Speaker 1: I love Magnolia. I love Winston Pie too. See now

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Speaker 1: we're seeing I know the different places to go New

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Speaker 2: I told you got to try Beverly Hills Cookies. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited how they're sharing some places to Allied places

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Speaker 2: I mean, Beverly Hills Cookies was just my birthday and

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Speaker 1: So wait, so you still have your place in New York?

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Speaker 1: How often do you get there?

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Speaker 2: I mean I try to go a lot. I mean

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Speaker 2: It's like an investment property as well, so different than

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Speaker 2: having like a for sure B and B. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's so smart that you bought it and

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Speaker 2: I know, really a long time ago. Yeah that's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really really good. I should have been so smart,

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Speaker 2: Buy in La, own property in LA.

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Speaker 1: So I know, I know it's all good. It's all good.

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Speaker 1: No complaints here, no complaints here. You know, there's so

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Speaker 1: many cliches about La. Do you find to be true?

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Speaker 1: A cliche that you find to be true, and maybe

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the very worst thing about LA. I will

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Speaker 2: just say the thing I hate about LA is the traffic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no joke.

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Speaker 2: I mean you can sit in your car easily two

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Speaker 1: This is true. But this is why I need to

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Speaker 1: I know that's smart. Do not like you got to

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Speaker 2: That's why I got into cooking and inviting people over.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely key key, key, Like just get your life

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Speaker 1: also sometimes you'll get stuck in New York. Like one time,

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Speaker 2: But couldn't you just park your car and take a

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but we were in a weird like

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Speaker 2: I mean the upside to New York is like if

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Speaker 2: there's terrible traffic. You know, they have great public transportation.

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Speaker 1: Good point here they had point they do.

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Speaker 2: They have a new train, they do, but it goes

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Speaker 2: to like one place.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not practical, right, Listen, my kids have

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Speaker 1: taken that train. Yeah, it goes to some kid places. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: they love it.

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Speaker 2: One cliche that is true is that the weather's awesome,

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Speaker 2: moments of bad weather, but the weather is pretty great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the weather is incredible and I do love it.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I think there's a cliche. It's not

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Speaker 1: exactly la, but it's an actress basic cliche. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit earlier when we did go shopping,

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Speaker 1: but we were comparing notes and really neither of us

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Speaker 1: shop very much. I remember in time where every interview

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Speaker 1: One time Charlotte is volunteering at this place for people

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Speaker 3: Yes, audition stories, horror story.

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Speaker 2: Do you have an audition? Well, do you remember this

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Speaker 1: You don't know. And then some of my pages would

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you believe everything we went through?

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Speaker 2: Now it's so easier, just like address band one tells

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Speaker 2: I mean, what about you? Do you have one?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I can't even believe that we lived

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Speaker 1: And I know people complain a lot about it, but

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Speaker 2: So did you just get offered the part in Sex

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Speaker 1: I was kind of like, what's he going to do?

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Speaker 1: And he said, now, he's going to do this thing

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Speaker 1: of those parts. I'm sure you were on some film

439
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Speaker 1: or you would have also been in the mix. I

440
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,520
Speaker 1: feel like every woman in New York in LA was

441
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,200
Speaker 1: in the right. Yes, because it was so unique and

442
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,800
Speaker 1: so great because at that point there wasn't a lot

443
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 1: filming in New York. So the idea of filming in

444
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,679
Speaker 1: New York about like something around women that's kind of

445
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,399
Speaker 1: unheard of. Right, So I had to test, Okay, do

446
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,480
Speaker 1: you remember when I did you have to.

447
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 2: Test with other people? Like you saw other people.

448
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 1: Other people, but Willie Garson, you know other people for

449
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 1: other parts, right.

450
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 2: Not like another actress for your part.

451
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 1: I think there might have been one other actress who

452
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,960
Speaker 1: I kind of knew who I was like, oh no,

453
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,199
Speaker 1: it was like people that you would see over and

454
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,479
Speaker 1: over again, did you have that? And she's a very

455
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 1: nice person, she's listening, she's a very nice person. But

456
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, please, don't get it. And

457
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 1: we were there. So there was like men and women,

458
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, for Big and then Willie was there. He

459
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 1: was the only person I think for Stanford because Sara.

460
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 2: About where other people like was Miranda and Samantha.

461
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: I think there were Samanda Samantha's and Miranda's, but I

462
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 1: think they'd already offered it to Kim, and I think

463
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,400
Speaker 1: Kim had also turned it down, and I think they

464
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 1: were really torn about how funny those two parts. So

465
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 1: there was a comedian there. I think I was like, whoa,

466
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 1: that's I wasn't thinking that, you know what. And then

467
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 1: obviously they went more actory, but they just couldn't. They

468
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 1: didn't exactly know what they were doing.

469
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 2: But was Cynthia Nixon there?

470
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Speaker 1: No, Cynthia was in New York. She had already read,

471
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 1: she read pretty early, and she really wanted it. But

472
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 1: they took forever to decide on any of us except

473
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Speaker 1: for Kim and Sarah. That they'd offered it to write,

474
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 1: but then Kim kept turning them down. Sarah got cold

475
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 1: feet for a while, then kind of got back, you know,

476
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: things had.

477
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Speaker 2: Kim turn around, Like what happened with Like she just

478
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: decided last minute.

479
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 1: Darren talked her into it. I don't know how exactly.

480
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how exactly. I just know that both

481
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: of them, they they were more well known than Cynthia,

482
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 1: and I think it was known in the Broadway world.

483
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 1: I had really only ever done Melrose, right, so they

484
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: were both more more well known. I think back then

485
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 1: you had to choose between film and TV. You know,

486
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't like now it's not. Yeah, yeah, now that's

487
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 1: gone altogether. But I think back then, like once you

488
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 1: did TV, even if it was HBO, you were thought

489
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 1: of differently, you know what I'm saying. So I think

490
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Speaker 1: that was some of the pressure for both of them.

491
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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure it's like everyone's trying to get

492
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Speaker 2: into TV.

493
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Speaker 1: Absolutely well, that's because films, I mean making enough.

494
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: I know.

495
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 1: It's so sad because I love film obviously, Okay, story

496
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 1: was it? Okay?

497
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, when you got it? What did you do?

498
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 2: What were you well?

499
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: I was super nervous because they took forever to tell me,

500
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: like you know you would. I don't know if you

501
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: ever did this in the olden days when you would

502
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: audition for something that was like a big deal, a

503
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: big network deal. They had like a date that they

504
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: had to tell you by. They waited till like midway

505
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: through the day of the final date. I mean, it

506
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: was so stressful, right, and I had gone to a

507
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: movie to try to get through the day. And I

508
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 1: remember it was in Santa Monica at the AMC and

509
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: I was walking through that parking lot and I had

510
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: my cranky big cell phone back then, you know what

511
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: I manager. I was like I heard from that, and

512
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: he was like, yes, you got it, and I was like, oh,

513
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: thank god. But it was just like relieve, you know

514
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I had built up so much

515
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: angst at that point that I wasn't even happy. I

516
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think I was happy until we

517
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: went to New York and then I was like whole

518
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 1: world over up, you know, which was really fun. I know,

519
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: it was exciting, and also it's just so exciting to

520
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: be able to be in both worlds.

521
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Speaker 2: That's great, you know, also, wouldn't it. Okay, this is

522
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: just me interviewing you, but I would love to be

523
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: like Patricia Field.

524
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: Right. Oh, incredible, And do you imagine just.

525
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: Like, okay, make me cool and then she just does.

526
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: Right, whoa. It wasn't exactly like that because I was

527
00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: playing Charlotte right, I think, I mean, you were, well, yes, cool,

528
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 1: but Charlotte right. And in my mind I had an

529
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: image of what I thought she should be, and I

530
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: went to the Upper east Side and did a lot

531
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: of research. But Pat didn't necessarily agree with me.

532
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: Okay, what were you thinking? And what was I was thinking?

533
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: Like what I saw on the Upper east Side, like

534
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: classic Ralph Lauren, long, straight brown hair, you know, like constrained. Yeah,

535
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: but that's not really how Pat thinks. As we all know.

536
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: She wow. I mean in the beginning, she tried to

537
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: dress me in all kind of crazy things and I

538
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: was like no, and then she was stressed. And then

539
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Speaker 1: I remember one time Darren took me out to dinner.

540
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: Whenever Darren called you to go out to dinner, you

541
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: knew that you were in some trouble. So you were

542
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: just waiting. You were just gossiping and talking until he

543
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: told you what you were in trouble for. So we

544
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: were walking home. We both lived on Central Park West

545
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: at the time. We were walking home and I was like, Darren,

546
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: what what is it? You know? We're walking home? And

547
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: he said, I just want you to trust Pat because

548
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: she knows better than you do.

549
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: In other words, your taste is bad, so like, listen, right.

550
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: Definitely, but at that point it wasn't even my taste.

551
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I want a character to be

552
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 1: identifiable as an Upper east Side but Pat was so

553
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: downtown that I think her she found that boring right,

554
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: so like and and I'm not saying that she was

555
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: wrong because there is an episode where Charlotte goes back

556
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: and has brunch with her college friends, and she realized.

557
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: That's when you try to be like more like Samantha,

558
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: and she tries to be more like you.

559
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: Yes, and I realized, I'm the Samantha of my college friends,

560
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: and I'm wearing a little tank top with a sweater tide.

561
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: In my mind, that's how I thought Charlotte should dress

562
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: the whole time. But Pat was way better. Okay, you

563
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Pat would twist things ironically,

564
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: even for Charlotte. She's a brilliant yes, but it wasn't

565
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: so easy as like make me cool, you know.

566
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up in suburbia and my family

567
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: we didn't think a lot about clothes, Like we went

568
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 2: to like Marshall's, you know what I mean. So when

569
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: I started acting, I started going to like these fancy stores,

570
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: and I was like, what is this?

571
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, I felt that way.

572
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: I looked a little bit like a Mormon child. When I.

573
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: Looked like a frumpy, preppy Southern child, you know what

574
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I wore wide maale corduoys with like

575
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: ducks embroidered on them.

576
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: That sounds cute.

577
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

578
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: I was cuting that. Thank you.

579
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: It's interesting. It's interesting that we get to be different people, right.

580
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: So if I didn't have help, I think I would

581
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: have looked really bad. Like me to know that that's

582
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: your makeup too was really questionable.

583
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean, weren't all of ours with our eyes.

584
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: Without like being an actress and having like professional people

585
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: be like, don't do that? Do that? You know?

586
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 1: I would definitely oh, it's super helpful to have the pros.

587
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: We need the pros for sure. All Right, thank you, Heather,

588
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: and I want to say thank you to Hyundai for

589
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: a really fun day.

590
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: Thank you for this day.

591
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: It was mean what a fun day. And you're a joy.

592
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for inviting me. You're amazed.

593
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: Yay, let's go eat some more pie.

594
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Okay, good

595
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Speaker 1: H