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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollie. He is being

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. And it's a.

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Speaker 3: Windy yeah, windy hot out there. Yeah where he was.

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Speaker 2: Imagine this is kind of what it's like a mercury.

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Speaker 3: It was scorching just walking for the car here and

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Speaker 3: then the wind picked up and.

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Speaker 2: Some soldiers like winds down there and it's very hot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, so to do a little this is the Drive.

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Speaker 2: He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: And so how far are we away from camp now

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Speaker 3: I think about it. Thursday will be two weeks, two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first practice will be two weeks from today.

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Speaker 3: From today, yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: About that?

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Speaker 2: How about the apples? Let's coming coming hot and heavy.

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Speaker 2: There you go, nice, so Matt. Today, Bill Barnwell on

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Speaker 2: ESPN put together a ranking of the top teams or

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Speaker 2: team ranking every team between their wide receiver, tight end

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Speaker 2: running back down the taken into the equation just the

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Speaker 2: skill guys that you have on offense. Yep, and so

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Speaker 2: I thought we'd take a look at this and see

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Speaker 2: obviously where the Steelers rank, and ye see who.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna be the top of the list on

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 2: And he did this for us because he has it

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Speaker 2: in descending orders.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's a nice way to do. Yeah about that,

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Speaker 3: you're always scrolling them the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so at thirty two. And this is why when

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Speaker 2: we talk about this particular team and the people who

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Speaker 2: think that this is a playoff team, because if you

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Speaker 2: remember yesterday and we went through the ESPN rankings, it's

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Speaker 2: this team being the Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense was rated very low. It should be

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Speaker 2: and it should be.

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Speaker 3: He's really bad up the middle and.

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Speaker 2: Their skill guys are thirty second. And I can't fight that.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't can't argue with that at all.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, like we both like mccaukeaey lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like the best.

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Speaker 3: I mean, including running backs and tight ends at.

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Speaker 2: Drafted lab McConkey. Oh, he'll be a nice he'll be

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Speaker 2: a nice, complimentary player to George Pickett.

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Speaker 3: It fit in really really well, I mean in that role,

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Speaker 3: but not as my feature. The number receiver. Yeah, Quintin

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Speaker 2: No dude running the Ravens running backs out there from

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and Edwards was never special and Dobbins can't

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Speaker 3: stay on the field. So we'll see who thirty one is.

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Speaker 3: But I can't even know who would compete with thirty

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Speaker 3: two with a Charger. Yeah, it's it's real bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh at thirty one are the Patriots, they compete,

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Speaker 2: but like Stevenson, say, Stevenson would start for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Ken would probably start for the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I don't think the Malrio Douglas a bad player, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean they're they're not they're a bad skill group.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he has them too high or anything

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Speaker 3: I think about it.

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Speaker 2: At thirty is Denver, Okay, Sutton's above average.

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Speaker 2: As much as I love Javonte Williams coming out that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last year was not impressive. Maybe a year removed

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Speaker 2: At twenty eight are the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty seven, he has the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would definitely have the Steelers over everybody mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're better than everybody mentioned. Pickens carries a lot

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Speaker 3: The backfield's one of the better back the backfield on the.

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Speaker 2: Better backfields in the league. I think what dings them

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Speaker 3: It'd be hard to rank from national respect.

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Speaker 3: He's the eighth best tight end, not the fifteenth or whatever. Right,

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Speaker 3: So I get it. I knew they wouldn't be high,

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Speaker 2: Here's one thing I did. He said, I'm still optimistic

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Speaker 2: about Pickens, even amid the real life specter of coordinator

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's what's happening at all.

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Speaker 2: Bill Barmwell tends to. I get he's an analytics.

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Speaker 3: Guy, originated football sider.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't look at the big I don't think he

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Speaker 2: At twenty five of the Saints the same argument.

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Speaker 3: a one. You're about to be, Shaheed. I'd love to

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have like three Rashid shehats. It's kind of

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Speaker 3: But I think that's what they're going for.

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Speaker 3: the rest of the Steelers beat the rest of the Saints,

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Speaker 2: like Pickens is better than any of the receivers he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like you'd have a really nice receiver room

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Speaker 2: And I'll take the Steelers running backs over James Cook.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was about to ask you, like, if

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Speaker 3: I think would take Pickens one, but my next three

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Speaker 3: I like, I like Samuel, I have some Samuel can't

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Speaker 3: would take I would trade Wilson for Coleman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, yeah, but neither one of them.

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Speaker 3: I'm not stand on the table for any of those

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Speaker 2: One of them. Like Van Jefferson is the most, has

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of unproven this there there.

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Speaker 2: He has a fifty you know, fifty catch season for

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Speaker 2: over eight hundred yards two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I I would take the Steelers receivers over

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Speaker 2: the Bills because of Pickens, of course. Yeah. Twenty three

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Speaker 3: The Raiders are better, Steelers are better backfield. They lose

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Speaker 3: the other categories. Yeah, yeah, they have two tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not higher. Yeah, and I say they're pretty

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like you said, we talking about this yesterday,

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Speaker 3: Kobe Myers would be a nice addition here, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, you take Kobe Myers in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 2: I just don't love some me or White Alexander Madison. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't either, but the rest was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Twenty two is the Colts, Okay, Jelannie Woods is

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Speaker 2: I would too, Yeah, yeah, I would too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if even if Adams and Pittman can'tol

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Speaker 3: or you know Pierce. Twenty one is the Arizona Cardinals. Boy,

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Speaker 3: that's a stretch. That's a lot of faith in Harrison.

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Speaker 2: A lot of faith in Harrison.

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Speaker 3: McBride's a good player, Wilson's a good player. The backfield

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Speaker 3: could be promising now with Benson would have them three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have the Raiders be ahead. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: No, and who do we just? I probably the cold

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Speaker 3: I can't put any faith in Chubb none.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't either. Elijah Moore has done nothing that

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Speaker 3: So okay, like that much other Raiders?

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I think it's close.

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Speaker 2: I think it's close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's close.

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Speaker 2: I think those two are almost a wash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do too. And I think the Djoku

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Speaker 3: I'm just comparing it like the Raiders, Like it's Ford

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Speaker 2: As of Raiders receiving their group, yeah, including all day long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like Chig and the running backs are okay, Hopkins

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Speaker 3: He's not a difference maker. Ferguson gets a lot of

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Speaker 2: If the Cowboys skill position players are only eighteenth this year,

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Speaker 3: They're in trouble. Yeah. I'm worried about the Cowboys, especially

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Speaker 2: Seventeen is Green Bay, Okay, it's kind of all young depth. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: lot of bodies. There's no star, right, but there's a

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Speaker 3: Think they'll signing Josh Jacobs. I would just brought back

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Speaker 3: I don't think Jacobs is an upgrade necessarily, but I

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Speaker 3: like their tight ends. They had drafted Lloyd got a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be a guy that I would try

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't shock me if it's all said and done, Like

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Speaker 2: Sixteen is Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Really, I'm not big on atn I put Ingram in

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Speaker 3: the like Najoku Friarman. Yeah, he doesn't block anybody. But

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Speaker 3: doesn't do it for me, not at all. Kirk's okay,

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Speaker 2: Would you rather have Christian Jordickens Pickens? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying in terms of what he is as

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Speaker 3: Right, he's not a difference maker and never will be.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a quality player. He's closer to Myers

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Speaker 3: like I would have them ahead of like Cleveland that

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Speaker 2: It's fine.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not great and there's not a star.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people understand like the Travis atn average

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not much a receiver. No, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's the misnomer with him is, oh, he's a great receiver.

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Speaker 2: He wore down as a season one on he's I

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Speaker 3: I think they knew that when they drafted Tank Bigsby,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Fifteen is Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: and Bateman. It's pretty good. Yeah, I just don't love Bateman,

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Speaker 2: That's nice. Yeah, I mean that thought running back, there's

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Speaker 3: I think that's about properly right for them them head

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Speaker 2: The thing is, so his twenty twenty three ranking on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I would have a lot more

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Speaker 2: Probably I have a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Faith and likely than I used to. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: At fifteen is Kansas City. They were nineteenth last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the checko's great. No. I know they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I assume you're not counting. You're not gonna

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Speaker 3: I don't mind two little guys if your three receiver

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Speaker 3: And Kelsey's really good still, of course that's fine. Them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen is Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm there on them either.

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Speaker 2: It's okay. I mean Mike Evans is still good, very

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 3: Guy h Rashad White's the one. I don't give much

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Speaker 2: And really Godwin hasn't been good in a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the third receivers are McMillan or Palmer. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're looking for a third receiver. I like Palmer, right,

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Speaker 3: They're kind.

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Speaker 2: Ferguson's better carry weight, He's better than those guys. Cooks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give take you know, I think Godwin could revitalize

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Speaker 2: Twelve is the Jets.

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Speaker 3: M Hall and Wilson are pretty awesome.

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Speaker 3: I was very much in on the Steelers kicking the

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Speaker 3: tire on Mike Williams. But he's hurt, but he's always hurt.

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Speaker 3: He's hurt now. I mean, I forget who I was

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Speaker 3: listening to described it like he needs to remember how

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Speaker 3: Tua went to judo class to learn how to fall.

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Speaker 3: Mike Williams has to learn before. I mean nobody. He

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Speaker 3: like belly spacks all the time, and everything breaks, and

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Speaker 3: you know, and there's they don't make depth.

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Speaker 2: They really don't know.

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Speaker 3: They're like Malachi Corley is the third Tyler, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: ye right? Who is there number one right now? Irv Smith?

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Speaker 2: No? I like Kiki.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a name, but he's a name that he's

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Barton has a chance to be good,

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Speaker 2: Three right now. I don't know how it gets on

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Speaker 2: Chase into the.

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Speaker 3: Slot, which I think is possible, but he needs to

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Speaker 3: still beat out. I have Icyas and all those guys too.

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Speaker 2: I just like they don't have a tight end that

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. Like they're better than the Bucks,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like Chase is better than Evans and Higgins

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ten is Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I'm on board of that I'm still a Pits guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: to have Darnell Mooney right now, you know, like sure,

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Speaker 2: And once again, so here the time for action in

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Speaker 2: Atlanta is now, especially now that the offense can't run

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Speaker 2: through Cordero Patterson and Johnny Smith. The offense is not

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Speaker 2: what happened was their lead running back three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Three years ago, Johnny Smith caught fifty passes. Last year

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Speaker 2: the offense hardly ran through him. Cordell was there three

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Speaker 2: last year. I mean, this is just being glibbed to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's two guys. I know Kien Williams are

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Speaker 3: and Williams to me, won't be a special player.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 3: Tight ends are not difference makers. They would be lower. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 3: it's fine, but that would be lower they do. I

441
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 3: mean DeMarcus Robinson's a good Yeah, Well, yeah, I guess

442
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 3: they're They're four deep. Isn't bad. It's a small thing.

443
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Speaker 3: But like Colby Parkinson's not a bad player. He's gonna

444
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Speaker 3: be like he's gonna fight for the tight end job,

445
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Speaker 3: but he's not want of him as my starter. No, no, no,

446
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Speaker 3: I mean he doesn't start on most teams.

447
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Speaker 2: Eight is Seattle.

448
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 3: Three really good receivers, fantast talent. I think we love

449
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 3: the backfield. Okay, they're probably the best one we've had yet. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 3: I think so. They're ahead of Cincy to me.

451
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Speaker 2: And you know, seven is Detroit. I'm kind of surprised

452
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Speaker 2: Detroit is that low.

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Speaker 3: It's probably the best backfield in the league. Yeah, maybe

454
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Speaker 3: the best tight end top three for sure. Yeah, Saint

455
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 3: Brown's not much different than Lamb or Chase. I mean,

456
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Speaker 3: probably behind them, but he's not far. One ward receiver

457
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Speaker 3: could make them one in my opinion. But yeah, it's

458
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Speaker 3: Jamison Williams is a wild card, but that's one fifth

459
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Speaker 3: of it being a wildcard. The rest of them are

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Speaker 3: all really strong, really strong. Yeah, they might be higher

461
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Speaker 3: for all right.

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Speaker 2: I got to disagree with so, yes, Chicago at six,

463
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: it's too high. Yeah, your mind, that's a good trio receiver.

464
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Speaker 2: I can't believe people are putting the cart before this

465
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Speaker 2: far ahead of the horse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the backfield's okay, but it's not even as

467
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Speaker 3: good as Steelers. They overpaid on Swift. Comet's not as

468
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Speaker 3: good as Friar Move. I think Comet's been overrated forever. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 3: I'll take that trio receivers against anybody absolutely.

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good good trio receivers.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not even sure they're fourth.

472
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Speaker 2: So is that trio receivers? Is it that much?

473
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Speaker 3: Is it better than Seattle's similar? I mean you're locketting

474
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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen about the same level at.

475
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Speaker 2: The seats, running back position is much.

476
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Speaker 3: Better, is much better, and tight ends are probably the wash. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I could see Fan actually having a decent year. Seattle's

478
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: is better, I think so too. Yeah, Yeah, DJ Moore

479
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: is really good, not like a dude, say a ton

480
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Speaker 3: five is Minnesota. Well, I can't do that with I

481
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Speaker 3: assume they're not going to kill Hawkinson on that. I

482
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Speaker 3: don't think he's gonna play until like Thanksgiving. No, like

483
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Speaker 3: I saw, and Jefferson's maybe your first pick overall right

484
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Speaker 3: of any skill guy. Maybe you know Addison's good. I

485
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: think he's over righted.

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Speaker 2: I like Aaron Jones, but yeah, he's also thirty.

487
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Speaker 3: If it was a healthy Hawkinson, I'd be like, Okay,

488
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Speaker 3: that's fine, But the fact that he's going to miss

489
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Speaker 3: substantial time, I would drop them five spots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have him head of Detroit.

491
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Speaker 3: No, I'm not sure i'd even have him out of

492
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Speaker 3: Chicago or Seattle or a couple of ones we've mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Four is Houston.

494
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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

495
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Speaker 2: I don't think the running back position is particularly good,

496
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Speaker 2: and I think tight end's fine.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Their three receivers are great.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Three is Miami. Yeah. I like that.

501
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 3: They added John new Smith and Malik Washington and now

502
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: they have three backs instead of two. We know the

503
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Speaker 3: receivers are stars. Yeah, you know. Yeah, and it Shan's hard.

504
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Speaker 2: To deal with. Yeah, that's fine too. Is Philadelphia.

505
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if Goddard's your third or fourth target

506
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: target slash option, you're in real good shape. One more

507
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: receiver will go a long way, like I could see

508
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Speaker 3: them drafting a wide out kind of early next year.

509
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Speaker 2: And one is San Francisco. They're easy, Yeah, that's easy. Yeah,

510
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Speaker 2: I mean, Kittle might be the best tight end the league.

511
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Speaker 2: He's not the most productive, but he might be the

512
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Speaker 2: best tight in the league. And he's the best all

513
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Speaker 2: around tight end.

514
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Speaker 3: I do too, I do too. Yeah, McCaffrey's probably the

515
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: best running back in the league. Yeah, Pearsall might not

516
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Speaker 3: even see the field. I mean us check doesn't offer much,

517
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 3: but he's out there at time.

518
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Speaker 2: You know, he is value.

519
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Speaker 3: No, they're easily one. Yeah.

520
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Speaker 2: So I mean, realistically, I look at the Steelers, they

521
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: should be They were ranked he in them twenty seven.

522
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Speaker 2: I think they should be like twenty four.

523
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say twenty four to twenty five something like that. Right,

524
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: if a young guy, if a receiver could step up,

525
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: or if Wilson could you know, grab the number two

526
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Speaker 3: receiver job and look like a it early on.

527
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Speaker 2: And I think the Raiders were way too low.

528
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Speaker 3: Raiders are low. Yeah, A couple were too high, like

529
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: Dallas to me ceedee Lamb and a bunch of Okays.

530
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: You know, I know they put up points. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not a bad list.

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Speaker 2: No, not terrible, No, not terrible. Let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm dale Lollie. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to The Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie. He

540
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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt for Steelers dot Com.

541
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Speaker 2: I've been doing some position reviews or previews i should say,

542
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Speaker 2: for training camp as we get ready to and today

543
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Speaker 2: I did wide receivers and I'm sure this one's gonna

544
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Speaker 2: get a lot of comments on Twitters.

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Speaker 3: They they need to do that.

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Speaker 2: And Brandon Ayuk Brandon. So looking at this group, obviously

547
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Speaker 2: you have George Pickens. Yeah, you got Roman Wilson, you

548
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: got Calvin Austin. Those are kind of the I would talents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Behind them, you got Van Jefferson, Quez Watkins,

550
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Speaker 2: Scottie Miller, uh Marquez Callaway. Those guys have all.

551
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Speaker 3: Done stuff, done something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Like I'm not saying any of them are great

554
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Speaker 3: and no, right, but I don't know that our audience

555
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Speaker 3: knows enough about those four, you know what I mean?

556
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Speaker 3: Like they know Calvin Austin is you know, and I'm

557
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Speaker 3: gonna say any of them the answer, but you just

558
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Speaker 3: need one.

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00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 2: Right, one of them needs to If one of them

560
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Speaker 2: can replicate their best season in.

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Speaker 3: The NFL, like Van Jefferson's best year, or you know,

562
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Speaker 3: Qus Watkins is a solid three or something like that, Yeah,

563
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Speaker 3: then you got something. I mean, you got you could

564
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Speaker 3: be dangerous. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I look at this and I again I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying that, you know, any of these guys is absolutely

567
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Speaker 2: the answer, but one of them could be the answer,

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Speaker 2: or it could be a situation where multiple guys are

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Speaker 2: that answer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's gonna be one of the most exciting,

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Speaker 3: most talked about things that camp. But I think, in

572
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Speaker 3: my opinion, we talked a lot about slot corners yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I think that's one of those situations where here's four names,

574
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Speaker 3: one of you step up, and I think that's kind

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Speaker 3: of the approach they're taken here along with Austin. Wilson's

576
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Speaker 3: a little different because he's drafted and he's a rookie.

577
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Speaker 3: But if you put those five of the four you

578
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Speaker 3: mentioned in Austin and say we need two of you

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Speaker 3: to be pretty decent contributors and better than those other three.

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Speaker 2: So last year, last year, Deontay Johnson caught I believe

581
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Speaker 2: fifty two passes, maybe fifty one as your number two

582
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Speaker 2: wide receiver. Yeah, you told me these guys can't replicate that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think they can.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you'd like to be better than that, exactly.

585
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Speaker 2: I mean, but we also think that Pat Fryarmo's going

586
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: to have a better season than he did a year ago.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm very worried about the number two receiver big.

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Speaker 2: My biggest worry is that if something happens to George Pickens, exactly,

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00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: I think you can. I think you can win games

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Speaker 2: with these guys.

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Speaker 3: But my big make get more and more confident in

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Speaker 3: them as we watch them more.

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Speaker 2: My biggest concern is what happens if George Pickens has

594
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Speaker 2: to miss three or four games? Right, that's where count

595
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Speaker 2: on anywhere to.

596
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Speaker 3: Be that much of a workload and stressful to me.

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Speaker 3: And I think they still will have discussions with other

598
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Speaker 3: teams too, and maybe maybe it's a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: in the camp if none of those dudes looks like

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Speaker 3: they're going to turn into one of the guys that

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Speaker 3: we hope they can. And they also have hope for

602
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Speaker 3: Roman Wilson to be a rookie contributor. I mean, not

603
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Speaker 3: he's catching fifty balls. I think he could be a

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Speaker 3: rookie contributor. And frankly, I think a lot of these guys,

605
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Speaker 3: with all respect Alan Robinson's blocking offer more than he did. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and you're not gonna play as many three

607
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: receiver sets as you did last year.

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Speaker 2: So, for example, so Van Jefferson in twenty twenty one

609
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Speaker 2: had fifty catches for eight hundred and two yards and

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Speaker 2: six touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: If he does that this year, oh that's a nice signing. Then, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's great. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Ques Watkins in twenty twenty one forty three catches for

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Speaker 2: six hundred and forty seven yards.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't realize that was his best year that

616
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Speaker 3: he They traded.

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Speaker 2: For AJ Brown and he becomes the number three guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're very familiar with him, and he can

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Speaker 3: stretch the field and o'perate out of the slot if

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Speaker 3: he needs too, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right, Marquez Callaway in twenty twenty again, and all this

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Speaker 2: is in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: For these three guys, of course, you'd rather would be

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three right, you know, that's why you get

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Speaker 3: them cheap too.

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Speaker 2: Forty six catches for six hundred and ninety eight yards

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Speaker 2: and six touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Okay, again, these are all they're capable of doing those things.

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Speaker 2: They've been able to do these kind of things. Now,

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Speaker 2: the one that I have the most confidence in in

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Speaker 2: descending order, would be Jefferson, Watkins Callaway agreed, and then

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Speaker 2: probably Scotty. Scotty Miller is the guy. He has had

633
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Speaker 2: in four seasons in Tampa, he had seventy four catches

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Speaker 2: for nine hundred and twenty four yards and four touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: And he was on the field of time.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't on the field, right, he was basically their

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00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: number four.

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00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a big play kind of guy. And he's

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00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: gonna have an uphill climb, right, you know, to make

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Speaker 3: this team.

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00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: But Jefferson in the last two years, where would.

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Speaker 3: You put Austin in that pecking order?

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Speaker 2: He's kind of the wild card. Yeah, yeah, you know,

644
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Speaker 2: because he hasn't done it to the level that these

645
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: guys have at least had a season.

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Speaker 3: Where they had up you know, but they're more familiar

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Speaker 3: with him. Yeah, he certainly has traits more than just

648
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: speed too. I mean, I don't think he's just a

649
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: speed gadget guy at all. He had a great mini camp.

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Speaker 3: I'm not putting much stock in that, you know. I

651
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: mean he should, but I don't think we anyone knows

652
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: this answer. But if they played tomorrow, who do you

653
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Speaker 3: think the second receiver is opposite Pikets?

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Speaker 2: I think it's Van Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: You think Jefferson, okay, And Austin is a three.

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00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: I think Wilson's a three.

657
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: Okay. You think he's ahead of them already, but I

658
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: think but I think, well, that's a hard I don't know.

659
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't play the slot.

660
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: I know that's a problem, right, you know.

661
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: I mean they toyed around with moving Pickens to the slot.

662
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: But if you do that, then who's on the outside.

663
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, are you going that Jefferson and Austin on

664
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: the outside.

665
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't like that, size wise, or you know, just

666
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: pure X receiver type stuff. I don't think i'd flirt

667
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: with Pickens in the slot much considering what else you

668
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: had if you hadn't Ayuka's.

669
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: Consistently and he may be consistently doubled. Oh yeah, I

670
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: want to move him to the slot to get him

671
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: off the double teams.

672
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: I mean you can still motion him and move him

673
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: around and stuff too, but he would not be my

674
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: slot receiver.

675
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: No, he would not be my primary slot No that

676
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever going to be.

677
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: The key now. I mean beause motion from outside into

678
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: the slot position and run go routes. Yeah, no doubt,

679
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: no doubt about it.

680
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: No, I do too, Yeah, I do too, But I

681
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: think people are under selling, Like I'd have to go

682
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: back and look at Van Jefferson's snap counts. I don't

683
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: know how much slot time he's had.

684
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: He's he's had some, but I think his game profiles

685
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: to being a legit slot guy.

686
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: I think he's a better version of Allan. I think

687
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: he's a more talented right now version of Alan Robinson.

688
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think he's as physical or as good

689
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: a blocker, which Robinson is, really but he's going to

690
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: get open more than Robinson. I believe that. And I

691
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: think the last maybe a couple of those guys in.

692
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: The list he had he had a foot injury two

693
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: years ago. Last year, they kind of, you know, we

694
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: just talked about the rams skill position.

695
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: Guys like.

696
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: The Kupa comes out of nowhere. And he was basically

697
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: drafted to eventually replace Van Jefferson, who was the second

698
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: round pick for them. No.

699
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: No, I liked him coming out Florida.

700
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: And you know, he becomes a star out of the gate,

701
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: and you know, so they they say, you know what,

702
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: we don't need this guy. This guy is not going

703
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: to play for us. They trade into Atlanta, he gets

704
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: traded mid season.

705
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: It just wasn't I mean, not only did Lanta not

706
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: play a lot of eleven personnel, but it was by

707
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: far thirty seconds in. Yeah, you know, I mean, so

708
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: receivers aren't on the field a lot.

709
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm not sold that Van Jefferson can't

710
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: play football in the NFL. No, I agree at a

711
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: reasonably high level. Like if he's your four, you're thrilled. Yeah,

712
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: if he's your three, you might be happy.

713
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: I think that's what we're gonna try to figure out, right,

714
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: Is he gonna be Alvin Harper, you know, to Michael Irvin?

715
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: No. The other thing, And I think sometimes we get

716
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: too caught up in the numbers. This guy's a two,

717
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: and it's I don't care about that stuff.

718
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that the league cares either anymore.

719
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they do, right, I don't think they do.

720
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 2: You because after every every time the ball is snapped,

721
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: they run a play and then both teams make multiple substitutions.

722
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: So who's the two, who's the three?

723
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. No, I think it's

724
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: gonna be one third and eight. Austin's out there, but

725
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: on first and ten he might not be right, know

726
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: what I mean that type of thing, I mean, situational

727
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: or how you deploy them. Like we were talking I

728
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: think yesterday about we're going through my receiver ranks. We're

729
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: talking about like Waddle and Tyree. Like Waddle would be

730
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: featured everywhere on the planet, right, but he's out there

731
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: running clear out routes for Tyree. And you know what

732
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Like I just have to take a back

733
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: seat to this guy on more snaps than I would

734
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: anywhere else.

735
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: I think the key is, do you have a number

736
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: one that worries me?

737
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: You know, because I think Pickens is really really good,

738
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: But I mean depends how you define it. I mean,

739
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: I think there's like ten number ones in the world,

740
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Can he get to there?

741
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he has that potential to do that.

742
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: Yes, like he took big steps last year. I think

743
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: his route tree improved the usage. He he does the

744
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: hard stuff, like he showed he can beat man coverage consistently.

745
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: His zone numbers are bad. His man stuff is great,

746
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: But I also.

747
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 2: Think zhone numbers are bad because he had Deontay Johnson

748
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: on the other side of him, and Deontay was great.

749
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: I also think raup combinations can help zone a lot

750
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: more than a year round, you know what I mean.

751
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, the concepts that more than anything. I

752
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: don't have worries about Pickens. I just don't know that

753
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: he's going to be a star. I think that a

754
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: lot of people listening just assume he's one of those

755
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: guys you can't say aything bad about, you know, Like, yeah,

756
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: I still have concerned about him. I don't think he's

757
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: a best receiver in the league. I think I ranked

758
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: him as my nineteenth guy for Fantasy that's pretty high.

759
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: I have high hopes for him, you know, I putting

760
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: my Monument of mouth is on him. But he's not

761
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: out of the woods. I mean, he's not Swanton, Stalworth

762
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: and ab yet.

763
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: You know, I think when the Pro Football Focus was

764
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: ranking wide receivers. He was somewhere in the twenties, Okay,

765
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: would you think he would be a number one on

766
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: a lot of teams around the big Yeah, yeah, But

767
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: there's a difference between being the number one receiver and

768
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: being a number one.

769
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: Receiver, and I think he's capable of both. I'd be

770
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 3: a lot more confident if Deontay was still here, of course,

771
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: of course, or somebody else was at it or whatever again,

772
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: because what if he gets hurt and no one's But

773
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: that's the pivotal thing.

774
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: Like I think they could. I think they can be

775
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: if if you tell me right now that George Pickens

776
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: plays all seventeen games this season and the Steelers don't

777
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: make a move for another wide receiver. Yeah, but Pickens

778
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: plays all seventeen games, I'm okay with what they have.

779
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: I think you can get by Yeah, I'm.

780
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay with what they have. The question becomes if he

781
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: misses games, then what do you have?

782
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: Even if that happened, though, I could still see receiver

783
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: being one of the biggest offseason needs, you know what

784
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean? Like it could their first round pick could

785
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: be a receiver, or you go out and free.

786
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: It's probably a second round but probably yeah type.

787
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: Right, right, But I do think Wilson could improve. I

788
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: think Austin can improve. I think Van Jefferson's a solid

789
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: NFL player.

790
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: That's the thing about this, this group of receivers that

791
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: they have behind. You know, if you look at Van Jefferson, Watkins, Miller, Callaway,

792
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: they're all like twenty six, twenty seven years old. I

793
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: don't know that the book has completely been written on it.

794
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: Right, They're not old, They're not young. Yeah, yeah, they're

795
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: all know how to I'm sure they know what they

796
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: do well. They they probably should be excited to be

797
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: here more. I don't have a J Brown. I want

798
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: to Smith in front of me. I got a last

799
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: chance to show that I should be on the field

800
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: for most snaps. Yeah, and one of them probably will

801
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: show us that.

802
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure a guy like Ques Watkins is going,

803
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: oh thank God.

804
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah right yeah, Like at best I can be the

805
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: three yeah, and then then they're a third of god her.

806
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. For what I did on the field in Philadelphia, yeah,

807
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: I was never gonna surpass those two guys.

808
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a couple of deep shots a year.

809
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: I'm around a lot of clear out routes for them.

810
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm never going to be featured. So a

811
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: lot of times dudes in this sport will they're given opportunity,

812
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: they step up a little bit. You know, we'll see,

813
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: we'll see. I mean, of course, it'll be one of

814
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: the biggest things we talk about in camp.

815
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Van Jefferson played in the Super Bowl and

816
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: started in the Super Bowl for the Rams. Not like

817
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: he stinks.

818
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he stinks at all. I mean

819
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: I think he's he's gonna make the team. Yeah, I mean,

820
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: of all those guys, I think he's got the best

821
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: chance to make the team. And I guess back to

822
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 3: the question I asked you if you lined up today,

823
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: he might be on the field and two persons and

824
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: two receivers. Yeah, I mean it might be him and Pickens.

825
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: He's probably the one you trust the most.

826
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: I think. So he's a bigger body guy. Yeah, yeah,

827
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: you know, I think he's he'll block.

828
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: There's well coached, as Davis receiver coach, runs good routes.

829
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: He's not super explosive. He's not he doesn't have any

830
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: trait that's wow, you know right. There's also not massive

831
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: deficiencies either, you know, so to move the chains have

832
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: some big playability block. I think that's who you'd line

833
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: up with, Todya.

834
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: Now would you like to have better than that? Absolutely,

835
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they have better than that, but

836
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: we're analyzing what's here.

837
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it would be. And I don't know

838
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: the doors shut of adding somebody, nor do I. I

839
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: think he's conversation think you.

840
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: Think you still have those conversations, But whoever you bring

841
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: in has to be markedly better.

842
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah than one of these guys, like I've thrown out

843
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: the name like Traylon Burks.

844
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what that gets you. I don't know,

845
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's better than what these guys.

846
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: Does he make the team over all, four or five

847
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: of those guys we mentioned.

848
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Especially if you make a trade for him midway through

849
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: training camp for.

850
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: You exactly exactly like you could get him cheap and

851
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: maybe he revitalized his career. And yeah, he has some

852
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: better traits than all these dudes were talking about, but

853
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: he's never proven he's good.

854
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: Well outside of Jefferson though. The one thing that those

855
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: the trait that these guys have is speed. Yeah, they are,

856
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: they're definitely a faster Yeah, and they're gonna throw the

857
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: ball deep.

858
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they're telling us that now.

859
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: I just don't know the trailing Burks is a better

860
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: traits He's not. He's not get faster than he's Watkins.

861
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: No, I mean even callaway go routes and deep routes.

862
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: There's a couple of these Steelers. I would take over him.

863
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

864
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so I don't know that gets you anything.

865
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: He would just be one more guy to throw at

866
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: the fan and hope it sticks. Like if you wouldn't

867
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: give me a starter, and now we can talk. Yeah,

868
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: you know, get Tyler Lockett or Colvin Sutton or somebody

869
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: like that. I mean, like, okay, they're better than all

870
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: these dudes.

871
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I just think I don't know

872
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: that Steeler fans know the background of these guys, Like

873
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: they just look at what do you did last year? Well?

874
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: Last year was last year, and there were some extenuating

875
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: circumstances with some of these guys that I.

876
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: Think a lot of thought is none of these dudes

877
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: have ever been in my fantasy league. So they're not good,

878
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like they're never going to

879
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: start them, They're not high end producers. So they're not

880
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: good enough there they've been in NFL. Players are going

881
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: to be NFL players, and not because special teams.

882
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean right around long enough to see. For example,

883
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: Yancey Thigpen was a guy that got cut by the

884
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: Chargers and comes in here and the next thing you know,

885
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: he's a thirteen hundred drug receiver. Yeah, opportunity means a lot.

886
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be the Van Jefferson type, you know,

887
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: like give me, give me a bunch of opportunities. I'll

888
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: get open against man coverage, I'll move sticks, and then

889
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: you start feeding the.

890
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: Ball over the key. I think for me, and it

891
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: goes back to those mid nineties Steelers, they didn't you know,

892
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: before thig Pen emerged, they didn't have a star receiver.

893
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: They were all They went a lot of four receivers

894
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: and the hope.

895
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: Was year four cornerback or your third cornerback is gonna

896
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: make a misstep and we're gonna beat him with this

897
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Ernie Mills.

898
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: As Mills yeah right, or maybe they don't.

899
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: Have Andre Hastings and yeah, like they weren't great players.

900
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: Charl Johnson was the first.

901
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: We're all NFL players though, Yeah.

902
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the students could use one of those four. Yeah,

903
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: that'd be great, But maybe one of these four turned

904
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: into one of those four, you know what I mean.

905
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: I just think sometimes, you know, you look around the league,

906
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: you see reclamation projects. You know, Jimmy Smith wasn't Jimmy

907
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: Smith when he was with the Cowboys. No, No, they

908
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't got rid of Smith with Keenan McCardell with it

909
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: with the Browns. Was not Keenan McCardell with the Jaguars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

910
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Now there's a lot of examples. I'm kind of drawing

911
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: a blank, but I bet there's plenty where. Okay, he's back,

912
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: he's back to being in the mix. Thinking about who

913
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: is the guy with the Raiders. He's a special teams

914
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: guy and ended up one to the Falcons last year.

915
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's not Casimo Good but it's uh.

916
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: Now he's somewhere else gonna play.

917
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: And you see guys like that mc collins, Yeah, Mac,

918
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: those guys like they're they're NFL players, but they never

919
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: really had the opportunity. Then somebody gets hurt, they step

920
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: in all some where's you know, everybody's scrambling to pick

921
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: them up in their fantasy.

922
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

923
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight catches for one hundred and seventy yards.

924
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: Even if it's five for seventy. Yeah, you know, it's

925
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 3: like any of these guys give you five for seventy,

926
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, yeah, that work if you run the

927
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: ball well.

928
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: Right, And I think that's the key. I think if

929
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: they're running the ball the way that they feel they

930
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: can run the football, you can live with these guys

931
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: and win football games because a you have, you have pickings,

932
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: and you have firm with It's not like you're you

933
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: have junk at tight end.

934
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: No, no, they don't. And I don't think I mean,

935
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: if you gave Omar the front office people truth serum,

936
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't think they acquired any of them thinking there

937
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: could be every snap players there the answer for eternity.

938
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: I mean they're fill ins there.

939
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

940
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's enough names here that any won you know.

941
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the corner way.

942
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean one of those guys, Jefferson, Miller, Watkins, Calloway,

943
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: one of those guys is probably not making this roster.

944
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: Oh I don't think so. Right at least one Wilson's

945
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: going to Pickens is going to Austin probably probably is,

946
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: and I think Jefferson probably is.

947
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: After that, I think at maybe two slots.

948
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know if any of them are

949
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: special teamers, it might only be one slot. Yeah, I

950
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: mean I could see five receivers being stated, you know,

951
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: on the roster this year. Keep the extra tight end,

952
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: don't run as much. Uh, you know, three receiver stuff. Yeah,

953
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: so you don't have the Boykin type right out there.

954
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these guys are all better than BOYK and

955
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: his receivers. That's the thing they were playing at times

956
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: with BOYCN on the field and Alan Robinstter than that.

957
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: Those guys are all better than Robinson Olshefski. And you

958
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: just don't have a Deantay Johnson. But again, Deontay Johnson

959
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: last year like fifty catches for seven hundred yards. You

960
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: can get that out of these guys.

961
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: No, you could get that out of these guys, yeah,

962
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean collectively, or maybe it's just one of them,

963
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: maybe Van Jefferson or whoever. The cupboard's not bear. But again,

964
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: i'd still be I can't wait to watch them.

965
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not going to still be looking

966
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: right of course, because you want to be better. But

967
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it's his dire.

968
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think dire is the word. Yeah, And

969
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: I keep going back this though. I mean it's probably

970
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: the position I'm going to study the most during practice.

971
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, watch it a lot.

972
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: So who's getting open all the time.

973
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna be watching the corners too, right? Right? Right?

974
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: Or you know his coach gonna put porter on these

975
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: guys over and over and shoot, you can do against him,

976
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

977
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Who who can go out there against our best?

978
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: And it might be Robin Wilson. Roman Wilson might be

979
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: the guy that's noticeably better than everybody else. I can

980
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: see that. Yeah, that's what you want.

981
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they just didn't throw the ball on it.

982
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: If if Roman Wilson was at I don't know what

983
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky or somewhere like they threw even.

984
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: Like Washington where they throw the ball, yeah, you.

985
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: Know forty times a game somewhere where they threw a twenty. Yeah,

986
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, it's a different We're probably have a different stree.

987
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: He probably doesn't go in the third round.

988
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: If they asked him to be Jalen pol If him

989
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: and Jalen polk switch spots or something like that. He's

990
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: going to go higher. Yeah, he'd been way more productive.

991
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

992
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

993
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

994
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

995
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

996
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation.

997
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: Radio Home after back on Dale Lolly. He is the

998
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt I'm looking here at some of

999
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: the NFL futures here on the DraftKings. Let me know

1000
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: who you like here to lead the NFL most regular

1001
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: season passing yards. Oh, Patrick Mahomes is plus five hundred. No. CJ.

1002
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: Stroud is plus six hundred. Yeah.

1003
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't think they'll run the ball time.

1004
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott plus six fifty.

1005
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: That's the name I was thinking would be bang for

1006
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: the Bucks. I think they're gonna run the ball poorly. Yeah,

1007
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: and I think they led the league in pass attempts

1008
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 3: last year.

1009
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: Jared Goff plus eight hundred TUA plus eight hundred tua

1010
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 2: won last year. Yeah, Joe Burrows plus eight fifty.

1011
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 3: Then for the buck, I'd put a buck on Burrow.

1012
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're looking at everybody else's over plus fourteen

1013
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: hundred or more.

1014
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: If you made me bet on it, I think i'd

1015
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: take Burrow. But if he misses one game, it's over, right,

1016
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: you know, I mean most yards in the season. He's

1017
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: a dark horse MVP candidate for me. I don't know

1018
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: how dark it is, but I think he could have

1019
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: a monster prove it. Give the league the finger. I'm

1020
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: fine type of season, you know what I mean. And

1021
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 3: I think you've been leaning towards taking the Bengals to

1022
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: win the division. Yeah, I'm kind of leaning that way

1023
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: as well. But if he misses one one game, he's

1024
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: not the pick. Rushing yards, I might take Dak Christian

1025
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: McCaffrey's plus two seventy five.

1026
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like that at all.

1027
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: I think they will lessen his carries.

1028
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I think they're they want to want him to

1029
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: do less when a drag.

1030
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor, there's been a lot of

1031
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: talk that he's going to be more debo going forward,

1032
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: you know, And I could see that.

1033
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor's plus six hundred.

1034
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: He also would not be my bet with a running quarterback.

1035
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: There Saquon Barkley plus six.

1036
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: Fifty m I bet I could come with better names

1037
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: than that too.

1038
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: Bresall plus eight hundred.

1039
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: Let's say Breessaw and Bijon or two.

1040
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: Everybody else after that is either plus one thousand or lower.

1041
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: I'd think those are the four favorites.

1042
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: In that category.

1043
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: But Derrick Henry, he is plus one thousand.

1044
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: Okay, Bijon and Henry I think would be where I'd

1045
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: put my money. I'm just looking here to see like

1046
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: a healthy Nick Chubb would be in a conversation, but

1047
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: that's not gonna work.

1048
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: Nonage Harris is plus six thousand.

1049
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean it pays off pretty nice. Yeah, what

1050
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: if Warren gets hurt? Jalen Warren is plus They're both

1051
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: plus six thousand. But if you put a buck on

1052
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: both of them, I hate to say it this way,

1053
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: and hope one gets hurt, you know what I mean?

1054
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: If they like last year, you know, let's say one

1055
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: of them misses a stretch of games. Yeah, not the

1056
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: whole not the whole season, but if one of them

1057
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: gets the entire workload.

1058
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: You're probably getting one hundred ish a game. Yeah, you know,

1059
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: just as that player.

1060
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: Receiving yards. We're looking at Tyreek Hill at plus six.

1061
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: Hundred Tyreek and Lamb I think would be the top

1062
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: of ceedee.

1063
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: Lamb's plus six fifty.

1064
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 3: Okay, because we had this conversation yesterday. I mean Lamb

1065
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: probably out targets Tyreek. Yeah, I don't know if he

1066
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: averages the same per catch.

1067
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: Then fourth are Justin Jefferson and aj Brown at plus

1068
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: one thousand each.

1069
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: I'd take Chase over both them.

1070
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chase, I'm sorry, Chase is plus nine hundred. I'll

1071
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: cast that one.

1072
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: So we were talking Jefferson like this one.

1073
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: How about that Garrett Wilson at plus fourteen.

1074
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: Hundred for the payoff, Yeah, I'm cool with that. That's

1075
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: very possible. Yeah, I mean he was really productive with

1076
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: horrendous quarterback play. What was I about to say about that?

1077
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: We were talking about Justin Jefferson and was you know,

1078
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: fantasy ranks, but Mike, Justin Jefferson get twelve to fifteen

1079
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: targets a game, no matter what might not be quality,

1080
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: might not be quality, but he might just get so

1081
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: many targets.

1082
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: You can get George Pickens at plus four thousand. He's

1083
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: tied with Zay Flowers and Marquise Brown and Travis Kelcey,

1084
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, Tank Dell, Sam Laporta, Deontay Johnson, Amari Cooper,

1085
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins, Jordan Addison are all plus four thousands. I

1086
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: think he might be my pickout of of that group. Yeah,

1087
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: I mean again, we're tight ends in there.

1088
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he's gonna outproduce Kelsey and Laporta and

1089
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: those guys probably have a bigger target share than any

1090
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: of them. Yeah, and I think he's I mean his

1091
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: yards for catch are high, right, I mean he's after

1092
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: the catch. Maybe we're throwing a back on I mean again,

1093
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: we're not predicting and receiving.

1094
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: My only problem is I think one of these other

1095
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: guys at the top might go for two thousand this year,

1096
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: like Ceedee Lamb might go for two thousand yards.

1097
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: Was knocking on the door and he missed the game?

1098
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: Or two n't another Pickens can get. Now that's a

1099
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: monster number most receiving touchdowns. Okay, he could make a

1100
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: run at that.

1101
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: They can make an at that.

1102
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: You got Tyreek at plus nine hundred You've got Ceede

1103
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: Lamb at plus nine hundred. Everybody else is plus one

1104
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 2: thousand or more.

1105
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: I mean, one thing through Wilson's career, Russell, he throws

1106
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: the ball in.

1107
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: The red zone, they'll throw the ball.

1108
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: Into the end zone. He throws the ball into the

1109
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: end zone a lot, and I think Pickens will be

1110
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: a lot of receipts.

1111
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: George Pickens got one red zone target last year. I

1112
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: know one. The red zone tard that's going will be

1113
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: dramatically increased. I think Friarmuth had like six or seven

1114
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: or something to like. Those numbers need to go up massively,

1115
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: and they will. I'm just looking here to see where

1116
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: Pickens is at, and wow, he is. You're talking about

1117
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: receiving touchdown receiving touchdowns? What his number is?

1118
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: Who's the leader?

1119
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: Well, the leaders Tyrek at nine and Ceede Lamb at

1120
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: nine hundred.

1121
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I knew they were for receiving yards. I know

1122
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: that touchdowns, and I thought maybe Kelsey would be in

1123
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: that conversation. Pickens is plus seven thousand, what leads? I mean,

1124
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: do you get fifteen win it?

1125
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1126
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: Probably, probably twelve might be in the common so.

1127
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: You'll be in the running you'll be.

1128
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: In the running again. I mean these are long shots,

1129
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: but they pay off huge plus seven thousand, plus seven thousand,

1130
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: put ten bucks on it, and yeah, that's so bad.

1131
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: I mean, say, Flowers is higher plus five thousand. I

1132
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: don't get that at all.

1133
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: That whole list you said that were the same as

1134
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: him for receiving yards. I actually thought Deontay was the

1135
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: second best option. Deontay won't be in the touchdown conversation.

1136
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: Sacks, Okay, I'm just waiting for it to load. Here.

1137
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: Should what be the best? He should be there? I mean,

1138
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 2: he's won at three in the last four years.

1139
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. I think he should.

1140
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: Hear he didn't win it was he got hurt.

1141
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: And the other thing about what is he may actually

1142
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: play with leads in the fourth quarter exactly. I mean

1143
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: he might actually do that. They never do that.

1144
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: So he's plus four fifty. He's the leader.

1145
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: He's the leader.

1146
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 2: Good and you got Micah Parsons and Miles Garrett plus five.

1147
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: Hundred, okay. Man's pickbacks. Crosby is Max Crosby plus six Okay,

1148
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: He's not far off then.

1149
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: Josh Heinz Allen is now plus nine hundred, as is

1150
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa. Everybody else's plus one thousand were lower. A

1151
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: little disrespectful to Nick Bosa. I know he didn't have

1152
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: a ton last year, but in terms of payoff return

1153
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: on investment, Crosby and Bosa kind of jumped out at me.

1154
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm glad wats won. I didn't know if he would be. Yeah,

1155
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: who's another like Tame Burns. Not a bad team though, Yeah,

1156
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 2: bad team.

1157
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: It's hard for I don't think Chris Jones could do it,

1158
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: or any of the interior guys.

1159
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking here at some of these other guys.

1160
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: There's like five names that are I don't think Aiden

1161
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: Hutchinson's that kind of guy. I do like that they

1162
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: play in the Dome a million seventeen and they're gonna

1163
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: be winning games, but.

1164
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: Lead the league in sacks.

1165
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: You can get Alex Highsmith at plus ten thousand.

1166
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, I mean remember.

1167
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: He had a fourteen and a half sax season two

1168
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: years ago.

1169
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: Could he get the seventeen if everything breaks right.

1170
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: That could lead it. Yeah. Yeah, team sacks, team sacks.

1171
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers are plus seven to fifty, not

1172
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: if they'd be one for me. The Jets are plus

1173
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: nine hundred the Chiefs are plus nine hundred, the Cowboys

1174
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: are plus nine hundred. Everybody else's plus one thousand or more.

1175
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: The Steelers come in at plus two thousand. Now, remember

1176
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: they had straight seasons until last year where they led

1177
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: the league in sacks.

1178
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if Cam gets you eight or I mean,

1179
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 3: I'm you don't need big numbers of the league league.

1180
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to aim short on that.

1181
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Her big gets you four. The sneaky part is.

1182
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: The inside linebackers get sneaky part. Can they get you ten?

1183
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: Can they get you eight to ten?

1184
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, and maybe even I don't know if you'll

1185
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: get many from the slot. You're not gonn get the

1186
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: Hilton sacks. He got those time, But I think you'll

1187
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 3: get off the ball sacks. Yeah yeah, they could could

1188
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: add up. I know you can't bet on that, but

1189
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: if the over under for off the ball linebacker sacks

1190
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: was five, I'd be over you know what I mean?

1191
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: So plus two thousand, I mean, if say, what gets

1192
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: twenty or around twenty and you get another ten out

1193
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: of highst with now you're at thirty.

1194
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: Because it's different about that bet other than like betting

1195
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: for Pickens to beat Tyree.

1196
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: Injuries don't matter. There is no matter.

1197
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: And the teams at the top I don't think are

1198
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: that much better than the Tier two teams, right, like

1199
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: as Dallas or San Francisco clearly the best pass rushing

1200
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 3: team in the league. No playing with Leeds help, Yeah,

1201
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 3: it sure does. But like the Eagles, wouldn't be a

1202
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: bad bet.

1203
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: Should the Steelers? Should the Steelers be behind Miami? They

1204
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: are by a lot. Miami's plus eleven hundred, The Steelers

1205
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: are plus two thousand. Yeah, Like should the Bengals. The

1206
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: Bengals are plus fifteen hundred, The Steelers.

1207
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 3: Are plus mentioned. The Browns are amongst the leaders.

1208
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: The Browns are plus eleven hundred.

1209
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: Okay, so they're problem is.

1210
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: They don't have any but they don't have any secondary help.

1211
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: It's all.

1212
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: It's all right, right. I wonder what teams would be.

1213
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: Maybe the Lions would be sneaky.

1214
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: The Lions come in from that backing for your buck.

1215
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Where are the Lions on here?

1216
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: I bet they're pretty low.

1217
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: They're plus two thousand with the Steelers.

1218
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: Not bad. Some teams that are in the lead a lot. Yeah,

1219
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: I mean that's one thing that will hurt the Steelers

1220
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: compared to some of those top teams. But they should

1221
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: have a lead more than they have in the last

1222
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 3: year two or three, right, I mean late in games

1223
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: with people throwing terrible towels and allowed. We've never seen

1224
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: that for this pass rush.

1225
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just hasn't happened.

1226
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind.

1227
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: That might be my favorite Steeler bet we've brought up

1228
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: today is lead the league in sacks.

1229
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 3: We've seen it just recently. You got the sack leader

1230
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: on the on there too, you know, so it doesn't hurt. Yeah,

1231
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: And I still think Cam could get you seven or eight. Yeah,

1232
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: I go along way. If you get twenty five between

1233
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: Cam and Watt.

1234
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: And let's say Benton gets you five this year, the

1235
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: post five.

1236
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: Off the ball, yeah, one or two from Minca and

1237
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: the defensive high Smith gets you eight, we're getting fifty

1238
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: pretty quick. Yeah. I mean what if Cam and Watt

1239
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 3: gets you twenty five. I think we'd all take that. Yeah,

1240
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: of course we'd take it. I mean it might take

1241
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: twenty two. That's a big number for.

1242
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: What Hiatt and high Smith last year had twenty six

1243
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: and a half.

1244
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 3: Would you take that or go fish? I think I'd

1245
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: go fish. But that's that's a good number. That's a

1246
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: big number.

1247
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: I mean that the history Steelers haven't done this story

1248
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: in the past, like the best pass rushing can do it.

1249
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: Anything over twenty five out of your two outside linebackers

1250
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: is really good.

1251
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: It's really good.

1252
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: It's rare. Yeah, you get over I mean they've had

1253
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: over thirty in the past.

1254
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 3: That's a sack and a half a game. Yeah, between

1255
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: two players. Yeah, and that's pretty don good. Yeah.

1256
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: I think you take it because injuries could screw it

1257
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: up to it, right, Yeah, And I don't know the

1258
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: Heighsmith then, and then you added her big into the

1259
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: equation you had, like you're outside backers are probably you

1260
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: could probably pencil in. Now over thirty sacks from your

1261
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: outside linebackers.

1262
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: I would take that and heartbeat when you had her

1263
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: big sacks yeah, between the three of them, I would

1264
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 3: take that and heartbeat.

1265
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1266
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a lot. I mean that's time.

1267
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: That's a time. There'll be teams that don't have thirty

1268
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: sacks this year.

1269
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: Right, If you get ten from your true d lineman,

1270
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: that's not that much ass.

1271
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're forty. Then your inside backers.

1272
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 3: Get you, you know five, something like that. Maybe more.

1273
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: It might get more than that.

1274
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: So do you think they get the fifty? Oh yeah,

1275
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: they were.

1276
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: Forty five last year, got nothing out of camp.

1277
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: And leads ever. Yeah, I mean, I know they have

1278
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: a tough schedule. I'm not saying that blow everybody out

1279
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 3: and he went in by fourteen and all these games.

1280
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: But all you need is is a game. You know,

1281
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: you're you're playing one of these rookie quarterbacks and you're

1282
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: gonna do that. I guess Washington you're gonna do that again.

1283
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: Who else is on the schedule or some.

1284
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 3: There's some batter lines on the schedule, Washington comes to mind,

1285
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I think you get Dallas early

1286
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: with Geyton when he's trying to learnt and things like

1287
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 3: that too. Yeah, I think fifty is not insane. That's

1288
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: my favorite bet that you threw out there is lead

1289
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 3: the team lead in sacks. Yeah, that to me is

1290
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 3: the easiest story to write, Like, yeah, not as you

1291
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: could win the rushing crown, but that's pretty far fetched. Yeah,

1292
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 3: Pickens could win the receivers.

1293
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: It could easily win the sack lead again this year,

1294
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: but it's only plus four fifty.

1295
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking about more of the long

1296
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: shot stuff, you know, the ones that are could pay off.

1297
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: The nice fifty. They're still pretty good payoff.

1298
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: It's pretty good payoff. I Peo plays seventeen, he's the

1299
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 3: leader in the clubhouse. I mean, he's going to be

1300
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: in the twenty neighborhood.

1301
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's done at three in the last four years.

1302
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: On year he didn't do is when he didn't play

1303
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: all seventeen games games.

1304
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: And he has some hard competition for that, of course,

1305
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: but it's not ten guys. He's competing with its four, right,

1306
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: you know, and one of those four or five probably

1307
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 3: doesn't play all seventeen. If Max Crosby misses two games,

1308
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: he's out of it. If what misses two games, he's.

1309
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: Out of it. You know how many leaves is Max

1310
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: Crosby going to play with?

1311
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: Few? Yeah, And I don't think Dallas will have as many.

1312
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Speaker 3: The Niners will, Browns will probably like the Steelers. Yeah.

1313
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: The question with the Niners is can Bosa stay healthy?

1314
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean he had a down year

1315
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: compared to those other four last most recently.

1316
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to a break that's going to do

1317
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: it for our number one of the drive Matt and

1318
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: I will be back with our number two right after

1319
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Speaker 2: this