1
00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:14,040
Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Cameridge Edge.

2
00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,960
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of TWAE Flashback This

3
00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm back, way back, taking it way back. The last

4
00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,880
Speaker 2: time eleven two thy eleven, The last time you got

5
00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,680
Speaker 2: you did the recap. I was sick and Camelle filled

6
00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,239
Speaker 2: in for me, and then we also had her do

7
00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:41,960
Speaker 2: an interview. So we're jumping right into episode thirteen.

8
00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,480
Speaker 3: It's so weird to me and I look at, you know,

9
00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,640
Speaker 3: twenty eleven. I don't think it was that long ago.

10
00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

11
00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,599
Speaker 3: I'm like, twenty eleven, that's a long ago. Yeah, it is,

12
00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,880
Speaker 3: what thirteen years ago?

13
00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,080
Speaker 2: Thirteen years ago? And then you think about all of

14
00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,920
Speaker 2: the things that have changed from whether it's fashions or right,

15
00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,560
Speaker 2: and then some things that have not changed one little bit,

16
00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,880
Speaker 2: but like the drama. Yeah, like the drama. So this

17
00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,319
Speaker 2: episode is called Unforgivable.

18
00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh God.

19
00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:22,679
Speaker 2: B Taylor's birthday is celebrated with a huge party on

20
00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,560
Speaker 2: a Beverly Hills Hotel rooftop. Kim and Kyle come to

21
00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,560
Speaker 2: blows and Camille learns that Kelsey wants to enter their marriage.

22
00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,200
Speaker 2: Camille felt uncomfortable going through the evening with Kelsey in

23
00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,280
Speaker 2: New York, knowing he wanted out. She says that it's

24
00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,759
Speaker 2: such a different scenario being married to a celebrity because

25
00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,720
Speaker 2: it is not a private divorce. If you were Camille,

26
00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,200
Speaker 2: would you have still gone to New York?

27
00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,080
Speaker 3: No, I was going to say that to you.

28
00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

29
00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,880
Speaker 3: It's hard to say because she clearly didn't want the divorce,

30
00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,480
Speaker 3: So maybe going just being close to him, thinking there's

31
00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,320
Speaker 3: a possibility, like I can understand that. Yeah, I've definitely

32
00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,720
Speaker 3: stalked a boyfriend in the past.

33
00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,480
Speaker 2: We just love me just but I mean, I can't

34
00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,440
Speaker 2: help but think when Kelsey goes I've won already that

35
00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,320
Speaker 2: he was talking about the public perception of Camille when

36
00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,120
Speaker 2: this divorce news hits, because like having her that air

37
00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,800
Speaker 2: gave him so much more freedom on you know, some

38
00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,000
Speaker 2: of the bad shit he did because she was so hated,

39
00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:29,720
Speaker 2: and that he.

40
00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,840
Speaker 3: Was very smart and how he played this out. Yeah,

41
00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,160
Speaker 3: I mean had her get on the show. Then he

42
00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,360
Speaker 3: talks about like not gonna lie thirteen years of marriage

43
00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,359
Speaker 3: is not easy.

44
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,640
Speaker 2: But also you could tell and then now that I

45
00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,760
Speaker 2: am not to ruin anything for you guys that are

46
00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,280
Speaker 2: watching this for the first time. But then I watched

47
00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,120
Speaker 2: the reunion right after this episode, and this is where

48
00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,160
Speaker 2: Camille lets on that she knew before they started filming.

49
00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,919
Speaker 2: So well, I think she was a sham.

50
00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,920
Speaker 3: Well, I well, I don't know, like when you have

51
00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,799
Speaker 3: a you're married to a polic person, there's there's only

52
00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,639
Speaker 3: so much you really want to reveal. And then when

53
00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,440
Speaker 3: he dumps her in.

54
00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,200
Speaker 2: The middle of filming, but hadn't he already dumped her

55
00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,679
Speaker 2: during filming? My guess is, oh, you think so, well, yeah,

56
00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,520
Speaker 2: that's what she said at.

57
00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,760
Speaker 3: The reunion she said she did.

58
00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, she kind of said like I already knew, you know,

59
00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:29,040
Speaker 2: when we started filming. So my guess is in some

60
00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 2: way production Slash, you know, the network or whomever wanted

61
00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,720
Speaker 2: to show Kelsey one last time and that's why this

62
00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,800
Speaker 2: New York thing, and it probably Kelsey agreed to do

63
00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,560
Speaker 2: whatever it was three three, you know, whatever it may

64
00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,600
Speaker 2: have been. So that's why came on the show, and

65
00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,960
Speaker 2: that's why that ended up happening.

66
00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,240
Speaker 3: Because do you think that's why she was kissing Nick

67
00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,760
Speaker 3: and acting off flirty. Is tried to like stick it

68
00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,480
Speaker 3: to Kelsey.

69
00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,240
Speaker 2: I would have that, but I mean, I hate to

70
00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,920
Speaker 2: skip down to the reunion again. But well, let's get

71
00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,360
Speaker 2: more into that once we talk about the room, because

72
00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,320
Speaker 2: that comes up a lot the kissing, I know. Well,

73
00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,600
Speaker 2: then the next part is when Kyle meets with her

74
00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,679
Speaker 2: psychic Rebecca. I know Rebecca because I feel like maybe

75
00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,080
Speaker 2: it was my first I don't remember what season it was,

76
00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,960
Speaker 2: it must have been my first season because it was

77
00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,479
Speaker 2: at Kyle's old house. Rebecca came and she was the

78
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,200
Speaker 2: one that called Erica. She was like, in your past life,

79
00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,920
Speaker 2: you were an Egyptian prince or something like that. So

80
00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,400
Speaker 2: this is Rebecca. Kyle meets with her and says her

81
00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,000
Speaker 2: mom's ashes and a lock of her hair. Rebecca tells

82
00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,279
Speaker 2: Kyle that her mom is here and she knows about

83
00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,400
Speaker 2: her conflict with a friend that's a girl, and then

84
00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,880
Speaker 2: that's when they start talking about Kim. Do we think

85
00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,560
Speaker 2: Kyle was intentional in filming with the psychic after what

86
00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,400
Speaker 2: happened with Alison Dubois, I yes, I would, but I

87
00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,400
Speaker 2: know that Kyle actually like, she actually talks to Rebecca.

88
00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,840
Speaker 2: So then it was just a quinkie inc I mean,

89
00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a quinkie dic, but I'm saying

90
00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,400
Speaker 2: I do know that.

91
00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,960
Speaker 3: She always like, I'll show you my psychic's better than

92
00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,680
Speaker 3: your psychic.

93
00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,880
Speaker 2: My psychic is better than yours in my life. But

94
00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. I'm no psychic, but I'm

95
00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:30,440
Speaker 2: thinking any psychic a housewife brings on the show may

96
00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,680
Speaker 2: be influenced by a little bit more than the spirits.

97
00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,640
Speaker 3: Like the blogs, like anything.

98
00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess back then there wasn't you couldn't

99
00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,120
Speaker 2: google everything, and there was like bloggers leaking stuff. So

100
00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,880
Speaker 2: who really knows, but I feel like you could kind

101
00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,279
Speaker 2: of look at any human being and be like you're

102
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,599
Speaker 2: having a conflict with someone.

103
00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,080
Speaker 3: Exactly right, Like most people are gonna don't worry about

104
00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,520
Speaker 3: those finances.

105
00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,680
Speaker 2: After looking at my Amazon, I know, I had like

106
00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,280
Speaker 2: crazy dreams last night that involved Amazon, and I think

107
00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,599
Speaker 2: it was because.

108
00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,560
Speaker 3: Did you take some lights out last night?

109
00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,440
Speaker 2: I didn't take any lights out, but I almost to

110
00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,400
Speaker 2: get through these episodes, needed to take a cloud nine

111
00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,400
Speaker 2: today because I was like.

112
00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,279
Speaker 3: This is, Yeah, it's a lot different than the show's

113
00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,720
Speaker 3: a lot different back then than it is now.

114
00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,200
Speaker 2: For sure, the pacing's different, all of it's different, but

115
00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean I do appreciate it. Lisa then asked Taylor

116
00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,120
Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent honest and asked what she

117
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,279
Speaker 2: said to Camille and the penthouse. Taylor told her that

118
00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,039
Speaker 2: Kim wanted to talk about Camille and her self esteem

119
00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,920
Speaker 2: in regards to being married to a celebrity. Then Kim

120
00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,640
Speaker 2: said it was Taylor who called her insecure.

121
00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,280
Speaker 3: I don't think it was Taylor's intention to stir shit

122
00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,600
Speaker 3: up at all. I really don't, and she like even

123
00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,480
Speaker 3: in the at the reunion bring that up again. She

124
00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,640
Speaker 3: gets blamed for a lot too.

125
00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, why do you think Lisa's

126
00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,680
Speaker 2: so insistent that Taylor isn't being honest.

127
00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,360
Speaker 3: Because Lisa likes to look like the good guy at

128
00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:12,920
Speaker 3: all times.

129
00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,920
Speaker 2: Right, But I feel like Lisa and Taylor hate each

130
00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,600
Speaker 2: other so much or just sorry, hate is a strong word.

131
00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,760
Speaker 2: They did like each other so much during this that

132
00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,000
Speaker 2: it's actually fun to watch, Like you can just see

133
00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,680
Speaker 2: both of them like cringing at the other one.

134
00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,720
Speaker 3: Did they really not like each other back then? I

135
00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,880
Speaker 3: don't even know if they like, I was a child,

136
00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,520
Speaker 3: you're a fetus.

137
00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was in my mother's womb.

138
00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,600
Speaker 3: Oh god.

139
00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,720
Speaker 2: But then Camille tells Dedie that Kelsey was so cold

140
00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,240
Speaker 2: to her on the red carpet. Kelsey was so annoyed.

141
00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,400
Speaker 2: Even Kelsey was furious at Camille's dress. That's how over

142
00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,760
Speaker 2: it he was, like even her, Well, he had a girlfriend,

143
00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,760
Speaker 2: which I wonder how they met, Like did they meet

144
00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,120
Speaker 2: when I said that, like Kelsey leaves for a flight attendant.

145
00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,440
Speaker 2: Did they meet on a plane or did they meet out?

146
00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,120
Speaker 2: Like I want to know this information, but I was

147
00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,200
Speaker 2: too booked up to actually research it.

148
00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, you know Jen on our show,

149
00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,040
Speaker 3: she met her husband she was a flight attendant. Oh

150
00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,000
Speaker 3: she met him, Like she met him, Yeah, like helping

151
00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,200
Speaker 3: him or whatever, you know, working on the plane.

152
00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,920
Speaker 2: That's probat to meet someone though, Like I have a

153
00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,840
Speaker 2: friend who her husband broke up with her for his

154
00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,520
Speaker 2: flight attendant. But he had a private plane, so that's.

155
00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,360
Speaker 3: A little bit different.

156
00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,680
Speaker 2: It was different because it's a consistent person. Every time

157
00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,120
Speaker 2: this person tracks.

158
00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have more one on one time with

159
00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,400
Speaker 3: you than the entire plane.

160
00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, even if we think of Kelsey

161
00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,120
Speaker 2: was probably sitting first class. I mean, at the most

162
00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,000
Speaker 2: this is to go to New York, So this is

163
00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,920
Speaker 2: five hours of flirtation and then like who gave who

164
00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,920
Speaker 2: the other person's number?

165
00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you surprised that? I mean, do you believe?

166
00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,920
Speaker 3: It's more like it that Camille had no idea that

167
00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,880
Speaker 3: Kelsey was cheating.

168
00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,120
Speaker 2: No, I think she knew the whole time she was filming,

169
00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,520
Speaker 2: which is why she was so erratic, because I think.

170
00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,679
Speaker 3: You can feel it, Like I think, I don't think

171
00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,280
Speaker 3: I'm I got cheated on with my first husband, but

172
00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't even count because I didn't care. It was

173
00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,760
Speaker 3: like I was over it, he was over it. So

174
00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,920
Speaker 3: I never have had that feeling like do you know

175
00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,640
Speaker 3: do you not know?

176
00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:39,679
Speaker 1: Well?

177
00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,720
Speaker 2: I think there's a big difference between like somebody needing

178
00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,080
Speaker 2: to leave for like two weeks for work versus a year, yeah,

179
00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,120
Speaker 2: versus a year getting an apartment one that, like your

180
00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,800
Speaker 2: family isn't moving into with you. I think those are

181
00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,240
Speaker 2: pretty big red flags. I think when she says she

182
00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,280
Speaker 2: got to their apartment building New York and the doorman

183
00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,720
Speaker 2: asked who she was, she told them she was missus Grammar.

184
00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,280
Speaker 2: They looked confused and said.

185
00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:07,560
Speaker 1: No, you're not.

186
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,880
Speaker 2: I was like the drama and then I was like, which,

187
00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,160
Speaker 2: like that doorman is getting fired, like theirs their job

188
00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,760
Speaker 2: is done, Like I.

189
00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,120
Speaker 3: Mean, it was pretty sad though to go I mean,

190
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,360
Speaker 3: has she never been to her husband's apartment before? What

191
00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,800
Speaker 3: made we saw the Red Flag?

192
00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,240
Speaker 2: Well, didn't we see her film at the beginning of

193
00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,840
Speaker 2: the season there like her talking about like how she

194
00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,679
Speaker 2: didn't know how she could live in this place with

195
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,360
Speaker 2: her kids thirty five square feet, Yeah, because she's used

196
00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,600
Speaker 2: to like, I don't know, seventy square feet or whatever

197
00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,840
Speaker 2: it is, and her eighty two nannies and whatnot. But

198
00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I I do believe what is your

199
00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,840
Speaker 2: thought process? When she says Camille says, whoever this is,

200
00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,720
Speaker 2: I do in my heart believe it's a woman. Does

201
00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,920
Speaker 2: she not know that she's just drawing a family?

202
00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,880
Speaker 3: Well? She had questions too there.

203
00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like do you yeah you got it?

204
00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, Well, obviously he's a public person. Everybody knows

205
00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,160
Speaker 3: he's married. Ill I have to just google him. Do

206
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,760
Speaker 3: affairs happen all the time? Absolutely? If you want to

207
00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,440
Speaker 3: blame somebody, blame your husband.

208
00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,559
Speaker 2: That's how I feel too.

209
00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,760
Speaker 3: Blame the husband. You don't have to blame the girl.

210
00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,439
Speaker 3: The girl's just seeing dollar signs. I'm sure, I mean

211
00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,760
Speaker 3: it could be true love. I'm sure it is what

212
00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,040
Speaker 3: is she fifty years younger than him? Well, I mean

213
00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,040
Speaker 3: they're still together so much in common.

214
00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're still together. But what would

215
00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,400
Speaker 2: you do if you found another woman was using your

216
00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,280
Speaker 2: name and your apartment.

217
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,160
Speaker 3: Killer.

218
00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

219
00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm a feisty mood today. I mean, obviously it falls

220
00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,280
Speaker 3: back on her husband, the guy that she married, the

221
00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,280
Speaker 3: one she took vows with, the one that you know

222
00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,520
Speaker 3: it's not supposed to be lying to her, So I

223
00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,880
Speaker 3: understand taking it out on the other woman, but it's

224
00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,400
Speaker 3: really the husband.

225
00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you like, if you wanted to save

226
00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,439
Speaker 2: your marriage, you would have put in a good fight

227
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,960
Speaker 2: for your wife and your kids to come to New

228
00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,880
Speaker 2: York with you if you were going to be gone.

229
00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,280
Speaker 2: I think he just wanted out of sight, out of mind.

230
00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't.

231
00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suspect that they've been having problems for years,

232
00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,559
Speaker 3: for years.

233
00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,160
Speaker 2: Well, then Camille says that Kelsey has held her down,

234
00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,160
Speaker 2: keeping her in a cage and preventing her from experiencing life,

235
00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,959
Speaker 2: but she still loves him. Camille ultimately decided to file

236
00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:43,760
Speaker 2: for the divorce.

237
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it just from what we're seeing on

238
00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,440
Speaker 3: the show, doesn't look like he was holding her down

239
00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,640
Speaker 3: because he's like, piace od, I'm gonna go do a show.

240
00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,640
Speaker 3: I'll be back in a year. But who knows what

241
00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,319
Speaker 3: happened prior to that. Yeah, I mean she had quite

242
00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,880
Speaker 3: a life prior to marrying him.

243
00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,920
Speaker 2: Right, But I don't know. I don't know how much

244
00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,120
Speaker 2: of a social person she was because I wasn't out

245
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,559
Speaker 2: here then, Like I don't like some women that are

246
00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,160
Speaker 2: married to you know, super wealthy people are out on

247
00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,600
Speaker 2: the town every single night. Do I know this about Camille?

248
00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:19,880
Speaker 1: No?

249
00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,319
Speaker 2: Do I even think that's her personality type?

250
00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,000
Speaker 3: No?

251
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,200
Speaker 2: No, but that may have been because that was Kelsey's wishes,

252
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,840
Speaker 2: you know. But she kind of has always seemed like

253
00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,120
Speaker 2: in a big group setting, regardless of what we're watching

254
00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,880
Speaker 2: about Camille, Camille has always had like a nervous energy

255
00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,560
Speaker 2: when entering a room, like she's not, you know, super

256
00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,040
Speaker 2: over the top, you know the way then No.

257
00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,040
Speaker 3: No, In fact, a lot of times she filmed with

258
00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,840
Speaker 3: her friends and not with the cast.

259
00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then we get to Taylor pulls Kim to

260
00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,640
Speaker 2: address their altercation about Camille and Kyle's drama. Kim says

261
00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,960
Speaker 2: that Taylor was the one who stirred up the commotion.

262
00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,320
Speaker 2: Kim tells Taylor that Kyle is being fake because she

263
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,640
Speaker 2: knows who she really is. Kyle, Lisa, and Adrian intervene.

264
00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,880
Speaker 2: Kim says she doesn't enjoy any of their company.

265
00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,600
Speaker 3: A nice thing to say. I don't like any of you,

266
00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:19,880
Speaker 3: you know what.

267
00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,720
Speaker 2: I don't like any of you.

268
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,480
Speaker 3: I know.

269
00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,520
Speaker 2: Kim tells Kyle to watch her step. Kyle tells her

270
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,160
Speaker 2: to get her finger out of her face. Kim points

271
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,480
Speaker 2: to Taylor and Lisa, saying they're the ones who stir

272
00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,120
Speaker 2: up all the shit. Kyle tells Kim that she had

273
00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,280
Speaker 2: the opportunity to have her back at New York and

274
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:35,960
Speaker 2: she missed it.

275
00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that Kim was clearly not in

276
00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,040
Speaker 3: the right frame of mind. But however, was she coming

277
00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,800
Speaker 3: for the rest of them as well?

278
00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:47,920
Speaker 1: Like?

279
00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,840
Speaker 3: Is she? I know? She says she her issues with Kyle,

280
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,040
Speaker 3: but it seems like she hates everybody.

281
00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,320
Speaker 2: It seems like she doesn't want to be there. I mean,

282
00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,760
Speaker 2: we all have seen the Amsterdam Dinner, but Kim and

283
00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:07,480
Speaker 2: her finger have always been powerful apparently. But I do think.

284
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,960
Speaker 3: I just don't think Kim wants to be a part

285
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,560
Speaker 3: of a cast. I've got a team player. Let's just

286
00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,320
Speaker 3: put it that way.

287
00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,880
Speaker 2: I think from just watching, when you look at everybody

288
00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,040
Speaker 2: else's lifestyles and what's going on, my guess is Kim

289
00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,880
Speaker 2: made this decision to go on season one because of

290
00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,000
Speaker 2: financial need. Yeah, not probably, And I think when you're

291
00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,280
Speaker 2: in that situation, you don't really want to be there,

292
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,520
Speaker 2: and you're also struggling with you know what. I had

293
00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,400
Speaker 2: didn't seen. I haven't seen season two yet, so I

294
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,840
Speaker 2: don't know what happens from here. But at this point,

295
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:51,920
Speaker 2: there's allegations of drinking too much, drinking too much, and

296
00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,080
Speaker 2: it gets really ugly.

297
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,040
Speaker 3: I think we got ugly as Mika got into the

298
00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,040
Speaker 3: car to try to talk to Kim, and Kim, you

299
00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:00,960
Speaker 3: didn't want any part of it.

300
00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,720
Speaker 2: No, Well, first they show Betty and they're like, don't

301
00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,360
Speaker 2: like that.

302
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,080
Speaker 3: Betty's been around for a long time because Betty Vicky

303
00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,040
Speaker 3: used Betty. But I know that because it's not like

304
00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,560
Speaker 3: a common name for an agent.

305
00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,720
Speaker 2: And for the record, Betty's still around and she still

306
00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,440
Speaker 2: gets shipped done.

307
00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,600
Speaker 3: Like Betty, call out there and make sure that Kim

308
00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,200
Speaker 3: does not take off in the car, I repeat, does

309
00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,960
Speaker 3: not take off in the car, Like what?

310
00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,080
Speaker 2: And then who did Betty call? That's what I was wondering,

311
00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,800
Speaker 2: like the front desk.

312
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,880
Speaker 3: Like Betty called the valet.

313
00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,480
Speaker 2: Betty's like, hold up. But they get in the car,

314
00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,320
Speaker 2: they're they're screaming back and forth. Kim screams that well. First,

315
00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000
Speaker 2: Kim tells Kyle that she doesn't trust her and that

316
00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,560
Speaker 2: she what she did tonight was unforgivable. Kim screams that

317
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,240
Speaker 2: Kyle stole her house. Kyle says that Kim is out

318
00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,240
Speaker 2: of her mind at that end, that Mauricio has supported her.

319
00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,040
Speaker 3: Do you have any backstory on what she's talking about

320
00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,560
Speaker 3: about stealing the house?

321
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,840
Speaker 2: I think I don't know if this is public knowledge,

322
00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,760
Speaker 2: so I feel I don't know how much is shared.

323
00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:18,639
Speaker 2: All I can say for certain is Mauricio and Kyle

324
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,120
Speaker 2: supported Kim.

325
00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kyle said that, and she made it very

326
00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,480
Speaker 3: clear that money that was coming in each month ain't

327
00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 3: coming anymore. I'm gonna speculate that maybe a house was

328
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,360
Speaker 3: left to them when the mother passed away and Kim

329
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,520
Speaker 3: couldn't afford it or something, and Mauricio sold it.

330
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,480
Speaker 2: I think it's something similar to that, But my guess

331
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 2: would be bought out her portion, so she could have money.

332
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,919
Speaker 3: There you go. That's what I speculate.

333
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my guess, but I could be slightly wrong

334
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:04,879
Speaker 2: on the details. But I think where what Kim is

335
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 2: also alleging is like she did a lot of things.

336
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,399
Speaker 2: I mean, whether it's was the mom's house or maybe

337
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,960
Speaker 2: it was Kim's money from her childhood that paid for

338
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,400
Speaker 2: the house, I don't know, whatever situation.

339
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,600
Speaker 3: All I know is you stole my goddamn house. When

340
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,960
Speaker 3: that hit a nerve with Kyle.

341
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,880
Speaker 2: Because I think probably Kyle knew how much money they

342
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,439
Speaker 2: had given.

343
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,320
Speaker 3: Could you imagine Kathy Hilton was thinking watching this on

344
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 3: National TV and how protective she is and hush hushed

345
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,479
Speaker 3: about her family. She must have been dying, because I was,

346
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 3: I you know, obviously I watched it way back when,

347
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 3: thirteen years ago, but now I'm like, shit, that's her

348
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 3: actual sister and to have this conversation or argument on

349
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,399
Speaker 3: National TV about personal stuff, and she pushed Kyle to

350
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 3: the to her limits and out at her as I

351
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,240
Speaker 3: don't know if she called her an alcoholic, but having

352
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 3: a drinking problem.

353
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,920
Speaker 2: As much as Kat, it was probably hard for Kath

354
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 2: need to watch if she did watch them struggling.

355
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Paris Hilton was already we forget, she already

356
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 3: was pulling Shenanigans like.

357
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 2: Well, Paris Hilt was already super famous by then. Like

358
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 2: remember first episode, they're like that, you know, referring to

359
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 2: Kim and Kyle as Paris is aunt.

360
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. So now was Kim known as someone with addiction

361
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 3: problems in the public eye before joining the show?

362
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 2: I don't know because I don't really remember. I don't

363
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,239
Speaker 2: that was.

364
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 3: But also like or you were in college drinking.

365
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,719
Speaker 2: Like I went to college Camra.

366
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. I was trying to make you sound

367
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 3: smarter than you are.

368
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 2: Well clearly I'm not, but I don't remember because even

369
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 2: though like Edwin's first crush was Kim, I hadn't seen

370
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,919
Speaker 2: a bunch of Kim I know, and the eight not

371
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 2: from then from like.

372
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 3: A movie she did like he turned to which Mountain?

373
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 2: No, it was another one, but he had me watch

374
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: it once we started like dating before I ever even

375
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 2: went on the show. Well anyways, then Kyle stands up

376
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 2: and this is where it gets heated and says take

377
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: it back, calling her liar, and that's when the A

378
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,479
Speaker 2: word comes out, And all I know is Martin is

379
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: so bummed to be in this limo right now, He's like, well,

380
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 2: now I'm glad Kim never called me back.

381
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm glad I'm not dating her and she's

382
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: a mess.

383
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: Well how did Martin end up in that limo? Anyway?

384
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

385
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 3: But Adrian, she really rides the fence. She really really

386
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 3: like she knows. I mean, I don't know. There's a

387
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: fine line between sticking enabling somebody, sticking up for them,

388
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 3: and not wanting to, you know, to keep She wanting

389
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: to keep the peace, is what I'm trying to say.

390
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 3: But she said things to Kyle that I'm like, wait,

391
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: what show were you watching or filming? I should say, well,

392
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: I don't feel like Kyle did. I don't think Kyle

393
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 3: was poking at he or anything. Kyle was trying to

394
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: keep her dirty little secrets.

395
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: I think that Adrian, the only person she wanted to

396
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: argue with ever was Paul.

397
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: Well, she did a great job at it. She's like,

398
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 3: did a career, she made a career out of it.

399
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think just watching the whole thing unfold,

400
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense what's happening the entire season,

401
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: which then you know, we will get into and we

402
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: get into our next episode and we.

403
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: All have you know, our family shit for sure.

404
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

405
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: I would never think or even imagine that Kim, Kyle

406
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 3: and Kathy have such a troublesome like relationship. But watching

407
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: the seasons and seeing now and then watching Beverly Hills

408
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: last year with Kathy, like it's really been a struggle,

409
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: probably since their mother had passed away, I would imagine.

410
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: I think, I mean from what we were always told,

411
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: like those girls kind of grew up like they all

412
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: drove when they were in the eighth grade, you know, like.

413
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: They but they're all so successful now, yeah, And I

414
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: think that's they are probably so successful because they had

415
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 3: to worry.

416
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: They had too hard from a really young age, and

417
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: you know to their parents fled up when they were young,

418
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: and I think it just was a lot for them,

419
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: a lot for three girls to manage. And you know,

420
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: I think they all loved their mom so much, and

421
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: then once she passed, I think they all took on

422
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: these different responsibilities and they put that to.

423
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: Their mom probably held them all together. The way my family,

424
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: like my grandparents were like we always had Christmas to

425
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 3: get the whole families and aunts, the uncles and cousins.

426
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 3: After that happened, It's like I'm seeing my cousins in

427
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: twenty years.

428
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: They're like, Hey, Hey, is that my cousin?

429
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: Who's this person on Facebook and wants to talk to me? Oh?

430
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: I remember you? And I was five when I look.

431
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: Through my twenty three and me and I'm like, don't know,

432
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: never seen it.

433
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: Never.

434
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 2: By the way, Also, Taylor, I'm sorry your birthday party.

435
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: You didn't get to enjoy it for one second.

436
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: How could she enjoy anything with Russell?

437
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm unenjoyable. But we get there little, even back then,

438
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: we have the little what is it? The ending? They're

439
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: not the epilogue? Is that what someone dies?

440
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: No, that's a eulogy. I always call her eulogy. Here's

441
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: your death. This is what we say.

442
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: When you die. Okay, let's read them line by line

443
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: in dramatic tone. End of the season.

444
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: End of the season. Kyle and Kim went weeks without talking.

445
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: Their kids are now trying to broker a truce between them.

446
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: As Sedgriuc was moving out, he and Lisa had an

447
00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: explosive the argument they haven't spoken since Snowball.

448
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 3: Taylor's dog is happy with a new home, but Taylor

449
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: continues to struggle in her current one.

450
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: Adrianne and Paul are still the Bickersons. Adrienne insists she's

451
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: not responsible for Paul's multiple broken noses.

452
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 3: Kim's family checked her into rehab. A week later, she

453
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: checked herself out. She has taken her life one day

454
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 3: at a time.

455
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: Emille. She's living in Malibu, fighting for custody of her children.

456
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: Kelsey is in New York engaged to a twenty nine

457
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 2: year old flight attendant.

458
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: Oh that's a big view.

459
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: That is a big big you. Ah well, guys, if

460
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: you are on the edge of your seats waiting to

461
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: hear about the reunion episodes, make sure that you tune

462
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: into our next twads flashback where we will be getting

463
00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: in to part one and part two, The sit Down