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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review. Jaden was back and

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Speaker 1: the defense really rebounded in La.

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Speaker 2: And the commanders had a party in California.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the big Uglies have never looked so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: And we will celebrate Bill's big day on the Booth

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Speaker 1: Review next. Welcome into the latest edition of the Booth

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Speaker 1: Review podcast. I'm Bram Weinstein with London Fletcher. We are

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Speaker 1: brought to you by a Microsoft Surface Co Pilot plus PC.

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Speaker 1: I am tired, happy, London, but tired.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: Off a red eye getting back from the West Coast.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, Brian, I can say I am tired, and

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Speaker 2: I typically have no trouble sleeping on a plane. And

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Speaker 2: I was telling you like I fall asleep on a

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Speaker 2: on a flight from Charlotte to to DC in a heartbeat,

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Speaker 2: like nothing. But I didn't. I didn't sleep as as

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Speaker 2: like I normally would on a plane right from from

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Speaker 2: LA to Charlotte. And I'm disappointed. I probably slept maybe

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes. It just wasn't my normal. I'm filling

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Speaker 2: it right now too.

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Speaker 1: That's because you admitted there's nothing like a California party yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The California knows how to party and the words that

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Speaker 2: doctor Dre and Tupac California knows how to party. And

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Speaker 2: it was a party. It didn't start off that way,

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Speaker 2: but oh we were Jade and Deebo. They were dancing,

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Speaker 2: doing their little dance, celebrating it. It was a good time.

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Speaker 2: I got a chance to play some couple of great

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Speaker 2: golf courses out there, had great meals. I know you.

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Speaker 2: I know you were able to enjoy some family out

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Speaker 2: there as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good weekend all around. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: The start was interesting, but then at some point the

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Speaker 1: script was flipped for me. I want to do some

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Speaker 1: big picture stuff, and we'll kind of go through everything,

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Speaker 1: but I want to do some big picture stuff. This

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Speaker 1: season may have turned on Kwan Martin's forced fumble. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's ten to nothing. They'd been at one point out

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Speaker 1: gained one, twenty nine to five. The Chargers were driving,

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Speaker 1: they were, you know, had a completion to Quentin Johnston

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Speaker 1: in I don't know a suwhere twenty yard line around

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Speaker 1: the red zone. That's a minimum, Yeah, it's it's a minimum.

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Speaker 1: Three points. Dicker doesn't miss anything, so that's a minimum.

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Speaker 1: It's thirteen nothing. If not seventeen nothing. Kwan makes this play,

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Speaker 1: they get the recovery of the fumble, and everything seemed

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Speaker 1: to change then. So like if there was ever a

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Speaker 1: ball as Life moment, we had it yesterday in that spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And it was a looking at that game

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Speaker 2: and the first third down where Herbert he scrambles with

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Speaker 2: here we go again. And I will say this, the

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Speaker 2: defense had gotten off the field on the third down,

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Speaker 2: and then on the field goal attempt, you know, had

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Speaker 2: the off side and I think it was Mikey who

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Speaker 2: mean charge of New Life, and they got the first

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Speaker 2: down and end up scoring a touchdown. Offense went three

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Speaker 2: and out, charge the score again go up ten to nothing.

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Speaker 2: I think our offense went five plays and out. So

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Speaker 2: offense got off to a shaky start and looked a

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Speaker 2: little rusty. Jaydon looked a little rusty just to kind

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Speaker 2: of kind of start the game. And defensively we had

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to seventy four. It gets us

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Speaker 2: get our seventeen. Energy is still in the Chargers favor

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Speaker 2: and you know we still can overcome that. But that

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Speaker 2: we know we can make some turnovers against this team too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they score off that drive. There were just

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Speaker 1: a number of just key, huge moments. This was very

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Speaker 1: reminiscent of last year when all of these in these

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Speaker 1: They had scored once. The two minute drive, which they

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Speaker 2: And the fact that Jayden went through. I want to

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Speaker 2: say Luke might have been his second read on that play.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't. He wasn't then primary, but then Jaden saw,

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Speaker 2: Okay got Luke one on one on a post route.

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Speaker 2: And that was that catch by Luke that was on

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Speaker 2: not let the ball cause a completion, and just Luke's

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Speaker 2: confidence the last couple of weeks scoring a touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting. I talked to Dan Quinn on

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely absolutely, And that's what you need. You have

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Speaker 2: When you you asked, you mentioned DQ mentioning about being

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to do it in practice, it's another

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Speaker 2: Jalen Lane is making plays on the football field. Luke

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Speaker 1: There were two other big moments that I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about, like flipping the script here where they needed

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Speaker 2: It set uh, It set the Chargers up first and goal.

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Speaker 2: So that was another big play that Kwan made. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bobby took too much heat last week, but John

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Speaker 1: the execution that design, the execution on the Bajon play.

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Speaker 1: I tip your cap to them, like they made an

434
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Speaker 1: incredible play with an elite player. The thing that got

435
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Speaker 1: me was Jeremy Reeves printed fifty yards and stopped the

436
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Speaker 1: touchdown from happening. But Atlanta scored on the next play anyway,

437
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Speaker 1: And on this drive where the Chargers yesterday converted a

438
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Speaker 1: couple of decently long third downs to keep a drive alive.

439
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Speaker 1: Games now still in the balance, especially if they score

440
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. It's only twenty to ten. They're about to

441
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Speaker 1: score a touchdown, and this is where the defense stands

442
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Speaker 1: up and makes the plays to get off of the field.

443
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Speaker 1: Like that, to me was the difference between the Falcons

444
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Speaker 1: game to the Chargers game. It wasn't that the Falcons

445
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Speaker 1: hit a couple of big plays. It's that when they

446
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Speaker 1: let a couple of big plays happen, the defense stood

447
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: up and made plays collectively to get each other's back.

448
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Speaker 1: That's what I loved really about the defensive effort yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, great defensive effort. And it was

450
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Speaker 2: after the Martin touchdown save and tackle, nice coverage in

451
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Speaker 2: the in the reds all. But also then there was

452
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Speaker 2: a brun play. We think tin Law got penetrat shim

453
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Speaker 2: forced to run back. He didn't initially get the tackle,

454
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Speaker 2: end I think end up getting in on it. I

455
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Speaker 2: can't remember who made the tackle, bup, just putting them

456
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Speaker 2: in a situation where now was a negative yardist run play.

457
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Speaker 2: So that's that's where you're said, hey, we're gonna bow

458
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Speaker 2: our next and we're going to keep them out of

459
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Speaker 2: our end zone. They haven't cost that goal on yet.

460
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Speaker 2: That defend every blade of grass. And these are moments that,

461
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, you talk about changing the season around.

462
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Speaker 2: You look back and say, hey, that playing that fumble

463
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Speaker 2: that that Qud caused in LA to get us get

464
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Speaker 2: us going. And then the touchdown saving tackle by Kud again,

465
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Speaker 2: and then it's the Mikey Sammon still interception off of

466
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Speaker 2: tip passed by by Johnny Newton. So all those are

467
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Speaker 2: moments that happened offensively that Jade and to Luke McCaffrey.

468
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Speaker 2: So these are moments that happened and where where you

469
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Speaker 2: where you gain confidence because you've done these things before.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it's so interesting, like how much of

471
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Speaker 1: all the storylines have not been centered around Jaden. You know,

472
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Speaker 1: through all of this in year two, you would have

473
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Speaker 1: thought that he kind of would have been the centerpiece

474
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Speaker 1: storyline and over and over and over from the offseason

475
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Speaker 1: to who they signed, to the expectations that were different.

476
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Speaker 1: It was never centered around whether he's going to be

477
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Speaker 1: great or not. And yesterday it was a slow start

478
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Speaker 1: for him too, and then all of a sudden, it

479
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: was like he got a sea legs back all of

480
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: a sudden, and then we started to see the moments

481
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Speaker 1: that make him different. He had a couple of runs,

482
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Speaker 1: he was seeing it. He took the shot on Luke,

483
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Speaker 1: that's a perfect throw that he made the throw at

484
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Speaker 1: the end of the game to debo on you know,

485
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Speaker 1: I guess you could call that an aggressive call. But

486
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Speaker 1: to sit there and see a video of him practicing

487
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: the touchdown celebration that they're going to do before he

488
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Speaker 1: actually throws the pass on a fourth and seven from

489
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Speaker 1: the eight. That's the moxie gum shin instincts of Jaden

490
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Speaker 1: Daniels that we grew accustomed to a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, And he was having fun. You

492
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: can see him starting to have fun. He was out

493
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: there making making plays, running, running with his legs, and

494
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: you saw the burst on some of those runs where

495
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: he did he didn't. He didn't look like he lost

496
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Speaker 2: any speed. You saw us burst and and just going

497
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Speaker 2: out there executing the office and being comfortable. I thought

498
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Speaker 2: the offense is lined did a great job with providing protection.

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Speaker 2: They only uh, he only got sacked the one time

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Speaker 2: that was right right in that first that initial two

501
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Speaker 2: minute drive. But uh, other than that, man, it was

502
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: good to see him really starting to make some nice throws.

503
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Speaker 2: A couple not only to throw for the touchdown to Debo,

504
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Speaker 2: there was another I want to say it was a

505
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: third down throw where he put the ball right way

506
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: and needed to be Deebo shoulder showed great heads and

507
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: catching another pass. But overall, I think Jaden will be

508
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Speaker 2: happy and is happy with the way he ended up playing.

509
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Speaker 2: Probably the last three quarters in that ball game.

510
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen to twenty six, two thirty one through the air,

511
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Speaker 1: touchdown pass late, thirty nine rush yards by virtue of

512
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Speaker 1: going over twenty four yesterday, he went over one thousand

513
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Speaker 1: for his career. He's the first player in NFL history

514
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Speaker 1: with four thousand plus passing yards and one thousand plus

515
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: rushing yards in the first twenty games that he played.

516
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Speaker 1: Of course, he missed the last two, so there's been

517
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Speaker 1: more games in his career, but he didn't play in

518
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Speaker 1: the last two. But that is better than Cam Newton,

519
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: better than Lamar Jackson, better than Michael Vick, better than

520
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes for that matter, who does run a lot

521
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: better than Josh Allen fastest in his first twenty games.

522
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Speaker 1: He's coming off what I believe was the best rookie

523
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Speaker 1: season I've ever seen of any quarterback ever, and now

524
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: he's got other He's setting records again as he continues

525
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Speaker 1: to kind of reset how we view quarterback in this

526
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Speaker 1: town and how the league looks at it.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you mentioned that stat and I started to think,

528
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Speaker 2: I'm like, the first thing got first name. I thought

529
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Speaker 2: was like, man, Lamar Jackson didn't do it, And I

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Speaker 2: guess you said that it took twenty one games. Those

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Speaker 2: twenty one he beat him by a game for that. Yea,

532
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Speaker 2: And man Michael Vick was a twenty one for both

533
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Speaker 2: of those guys.

534
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Speaker 1: Something around there. Yeah, Cam Newton was probably right on

535
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Speaker 1: the custom of that as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's to be to accomplish that as

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Speaker 2: the fastest ever in NFL history when there's been a

538
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Speaker 2: lot of dual threat quarterbacks if you uh, if you

539
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Speaker 2: you know, for I guess, lack of a better word

540
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: or way to describe guys that that can throw an

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Speaker 2: a running at it at a at an efficient level, impressive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what makes them special.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice to have him back. All right,

544
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the offense. Let's bring in Logan Pulse

545
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Speaker 1: in here to bring to start talking about what the

546
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Speaker 1: offense did yesterday as we bring in Pulsing from the Pine. First,

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Speaker 1: just Logan on Jayden, You know, one, what did you

548
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Speaker 1: expect He's wearing a knee brace, he missed a couple

549
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Speaker 1: of weeks and you knew the Chargers brought in a

550
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Speaker 1: top five pass defense, top three scoring defense. What did

551
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Speaker 1: you expect from him? Yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Well, first off, guys, I got to say that I'm

553
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm here at the Big Bear AI Command Center studio.

554
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: You guys are at home. I'm here working, you know,

555
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: in the Big Bear Command Center as and when you

556
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Speaker 3: guys come back, I get my you know, Microsoft Surface

557
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: COPIL plus PC. You guys might get one of these

558
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Speaker 3: two if you ever come into work.

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Speaker 2: Right.

560
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: I know we're all tired after the flight and I'm

561
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Speaker 3: here grinding, man, So I just want to let that

562
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Speaker 3: let you know. Okay, but with regards to Jade.

563
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Speaker 1: Man, they live in a closet there, so like that's

564
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Speaker 1: different than us. We live in homes like normal people.

565
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Speaker 3: I actually I'm married, I have kids. I used to

566
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Speaker 3: live in a closet. Now I actually have a home

567
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Speaker 3: and have responsibilities.

568
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Speaker 2: So yeah, at some point, Logan, you got to share

569
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Speaker 2: that story about when you was in San Francisco.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to share that.

571
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Speaker 2: The roommate situation, I mean the housing situation.

572
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Speaker 3: Housing situation. You know, I'm a grinder and I and

573
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: I picked living situations that reflect my personality. So I

574
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Speaker 3: just want to bring that up to everybody. I got

575
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Speaker 3: a video for you, Fletch. I'll send it to you

576
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: about that specifically anyway. So with regards to Jayden, I

577
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: think you guys hit a lot of the major talking

578
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Speaker 3: points at the beginning. I think he came out a

579
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Speaker 3: little slow. I actually felt like the Chargers played a

580
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Speaker 3: little bit more man coverage early and I felt like,

581
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Speaker 3: you know, when you watched all their film in the

582
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Speaker 3: previous games, they were kind of a zone, every team man.

583
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Speaker 3: In certain situations, you could tell the plan was a

584
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Speaker 3: little bit more man heavy, which makes sense again, like

585
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Speaker 3: there's with Terry being out, with Noel Brown being out,

586
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: like teams are going to play more aggressively on the perimeter.

587
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Speaker 3: I think you saw that, and I think it I

588
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: don't want to say it surprised him, but like it

589
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: definitely surprised the offense, let's say, because there's times where

590
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Speaker 3: you know, like early on, where he's holding the football

591
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: and actually in the in the moment on the sideline,

592
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: I was like, man, like, he looks a little bit rattle.

593
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: He's not making good decisions. But I just buzzed the

594
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: film and it's like people are covered, and so you

595
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: don't want him to You want to be protecting the football,

596
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: be smart with the football and then as the game

597
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: went they kind of gotten more of the zone structures,

598
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: the play calls changed, the protection really improved. So I

599
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Speaker 3: think it really like Jaden's production got better as the

600
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Speaker 3: game went on, no doubt, But I think the team

601
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: played better. I think the play calls were more efficient,

602
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: they got an offensive rhythm, and I think that maybe

603
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Speaker 3: the number one difference between those first nine plays where

604
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Speaker 3: they kind of went three and out, three and out,

605
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Speaker 3: three and out and the rest of the game is

606
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Speaker 3: the pass protection. And it's not just guys winning one

607
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: on ones. It's how Cliff called the plays in terms

608
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: of chip help, in terms of you know, play action.

609
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Speaker 3: There was a lot of things that went into that,

610
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Speaker 3: and I think you saw it like the Canary and

611
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Speaker 3: the coal mine, so to speak. Was Jaden Daniels production,

612
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. The offense played better, and

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Speaker 3: then Jayden Daniels was more productive. And again I'm not

614
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Speaker 3: trying to take anything away from Jayden in terms of

615
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Speaker 3: visibility to make plays, but I think it was more.

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Speaker 3: It was a more collective effort than I think a

617
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Speaker 3: lot of people, at least I thought initially.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a second week in a row,

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Speaker 1: that it was. It wasn't profiled because of the way

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Speaker 1: they lost in Atlanta, But I thought the offensive line

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Speaker 1: has really come around collectively here. Chris Paul has been

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Speaker 1: a very physical addition for them, and I think, like

623
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Speaker 1: we're not calling Josh Connerly's name out very much because

624
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Speaker 1: he is improving week to week to week. He got

625
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Speaker 1: a murderer's row those first three weeks of Pro Bowl

626
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Speaker 1: to all pro level pass rushers that he had to

627
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Speaker 1: go up against to get. You know, welcome to his

628
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Speaker 1: NFL moments with Micah Parsons, Max Crosby, Brian Birds, cave

629
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Speaker 1: On Tibodaux. Take your choice of Abdul Carter of the

630
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Speaker 1: players the Giants are going to bring in. This is

631
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Speaker 1: a different matchup obviously, but you can feel his physicality,

632
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Speaker 1: his athleticism, and I agree with you Logan, like, just

633
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Speaker 1: collectively it was underrated in the Atlanta game because of

634
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Speaker 1: the way they lost, because of how many points they

635
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Speaker 1: gave up for what forgot that they scored twenty seven points. Anyway,

636
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Speaker 1: with all of the different, you know, different parts that

637
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Speaker 1: were out there, I thought yesterday it was really on display.

638
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Speaker 1: They really controlled the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm really glad you brought that up because

640
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Speaker 3: I just went back this morning and watched all of

641
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: Bill Krosskey Merits runs and Bill had a great game,

642
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: over one hundred yards rushing a bunch of all purpose yards.

643
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Speaker 3: But I think when you go back and you watch,

644
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Speaker 3: the offensive line deserves a ton of credit. There's times,

645
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Speaker 3: especially early on in the first you know, three quarters,

646
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Speaker 3: where he's not getting touched until he's five, six, seven

647
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: yards down the field. And to me, that's well executed

648
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: run scheme. You're talking about that counter, that counter O F. Fletch,

649
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: you know where the fullback's coming around, and the double

650
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 3: team that first. So like the way the counter works

651
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: because you're getting a kickout by the guard and then

652
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: you're leading with the full back or the you know,

653
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: if it's counter tray, you're leading with the tackle back

654
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 3: up there right. The first double team in that sequence

655
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: has to be excellent, and I will say Laramie Tunsil,

656
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: Chris Paul excellent double team, Wiley connorly when they sink

657
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: that thing, nobody's making the tackle man. Their ability to

658
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: create movement on those is really tremendous. For them to

659
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: stay square and just drive dudes off the ball is

660
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: really fantastic, and so they deserve a ton of credit. Man,

661
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: they deserve a ton of credit. And I think the

662
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: other thing too, is like I think it feels this

663
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: is really good coaching, and I want to give them

664
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: a shout.

665
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Out here real quick.

666
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: Is it feels very nuanced and diverse and like, oh

667
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: my god, shook at all these runs and how they

668
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: get they're running the same probably four runs. But the

669
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: window dressing they put on it is the thing that

670
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: gets the defense all cooked up. Right. So you talk

671
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: about that one play where Bill Krossky Merrit becomes a

672
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: quarterback and they act like they're running his own read.

673
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: It's just countertray. It that's all it is. And then

674
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: the linebackers run out of there and then they hit

675
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: the look they want and then it's like, oh, we're

676
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: gonna get in. We're gonna get in thirteen personnel. We're

677
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 3: gonna get in twelve personnel. We're gonna run. We actually

678
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: ran a counter tray with Luke McCaffrey as the second puller,

679
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: so it's like a you know, a counter you know, oh,

680
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: wide receiver whatever we want to call that, right, So

681
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: they they're just running the same stuff, and they're executing

682
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: at a high level. And I think obviously Bill adds

683
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 3: like there, I don't want to take away from his production,

684
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: because like there's that play where Derwin James kind of

685
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: grabs him around the neck and he breaks out of

686
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: that tackle and then runs for twenty five yards. So

687
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: he's he's adding his own special kind of magic. But

688
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: I'd say of his fifteen to sixteen carries, of his

689
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: fifteen carries, I'd say twelve of them were immaculately blocked

690
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: and really like even on the red zone stuff like

691
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: running kind of this bounce play where they pull the

692
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: center guard or they pull both guards to the perimeter,

693
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: and Chris Paul's ability to feel the wrong arm close

694
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: that off. And I think it actually might have been

695
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: the call, you know, to say, hey, we're running this pinpool,

696
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna wrong on this and I'm gonna bounce it

697
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: to the perimeter. Just really well blocked down and down out.

698
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: And then couple that with the protection and how that

699
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: helped jayde Daniels, I think that group deserves a ton

700
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: of credit.

701
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: Hey, Logan office line was great. I'm surprised though at

702
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: no point did you mention the tighty.

703
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: Is Oh, that's my bad, dude. Yeah, I'm trying to

704
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: give I'm trying to give everyone their flowers, you know

705
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: what I mean.

706
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bates. Bates has had some great blocks on those

707
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 2: double teams, down blocks. Ben sent it. There was one

708
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: block on one of the counters where he just destroyed

709
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a safety line back, I

710
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: mean he destroyed somebody.

711
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: Well, I'm really glad you. I'm really glad you brought

712
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: up the John Bates thing because again, first combination, they

713
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: had who's number forty five brand what's his name? The

714
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: outside linebacker for them, Yeah, from USC. He's in like

715
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: a five technique, so he's right in between the guard

716
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: and the tight end. And they just were like, we're

717
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: checking IDs, bro, you're under twenty one. Let's get out

718
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: this club real quick. And they planted him at the

719
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: linebacker's feet, and like, I don't care like run schemes, like,

720
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: if you are able to create that kind of vertical

721
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: and horizontal displacement, you're in a great spot. And Ben

722
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: Sinnet man, like, I know he's not catching a lot

723
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: of footballs, but he is snappy in the run game. Man,

724
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: you see all of those explosive measurements you saw from

725
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 3: him to the combine. You see it fully on display,

726
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: like at the second level, specifically his ability to uncoil

727
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: with good timing and great kind of rolling of the hips,

728
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: like he's becoming a ballplayer. And so I just think

729
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: coaching deserves a lot of credit. The execution deserves a

730
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: lot of credit. And I think you see the production

731
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: that comes off of when that kind of creates a

732
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: perfect storm, perfect cyclone of offensive production.

733
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I love the role that Senate's walked into. It feels

734
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: like he's a hunter now they got him on the move.

735
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,959
Speaker 1: He's able to kind of locate the prey and get

736
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: in the way of it. And you know, I think

737
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: like it's just you know, I think for him and Luke,

738
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: both of them, I think we were kind of waiting

739
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: and seeing what are their roles going to emerge into

740
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: this year. With Luke, you knew there was going to

741
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: be a heavy special teams role for him on all

742
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: coverage units and potentially in return units, and he's turned

743
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: out to do a very good job there. He's been

744
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: forced into other receiver roles because of all the different

745
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: injuries and other situations that were going on throughout the

746
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: summer and now into the season, and he seems to

747
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: be kind of growing into this. And with Senate, I

748
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: think we were asking, like what is his role on

749
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: the team, you know, where where does he fit in?

750
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: And I think you're seeing it now week to week

751
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: to week. It's it's been really great to watch.

752
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the thing the main thing to

753
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: me with those two guys specifically is like they are

754
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: they're not featured in the offense. So it's like Deebo

755
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 3: Samuels gets featured touches, right, they are in the offense

756
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: and then when the play comes to them, they're executing

757
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: and people say, oh, that doesn't sound like it's a

758
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: good thing. But as Fletch can attest to, like that's

759
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: how you get featured touches is when you're in the

760
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: context of the offense. So for example, in that long

761
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: completion of Luke that fifty yard bomb, like they're trying

762
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: to just run sale so like zach Ertz is running

763
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: kind of his like inside stem corner rout, they're running

764
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: the post over top. They get that quarter's coverage and

765
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: the quarter safety cuts the Saale route and Luke's open,

766
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: and so Luke doesn't have great separation, but that's where

767
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: the ball should go if the safety plays that way.

768
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: And then Jayden Daniels has the confidence to put the

769
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: ball out there and it's like, man, that's a tight coverage.

770
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna make the play. And how many times fletching

771
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: your career, have you seen a young receiver get that

772
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: moment and then botch it and then they don't make

773
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: the play, And it's like, get that guy out of here, right.

774
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because their opportunities are going to be so

775
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: far and few in between. And as you mentioned, like

776
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: whenever when you excel in them small things, they're gonna

777
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: get started to get put more on your plate and

778
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: give you a give you more and more, Like Okay,

779
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: let's let's design something for Luke so and then his

780
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: let's reward send it for all his Let's let's get

781
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: him on a little leak out or something.

782
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: One thousand percent. So I think that's where I'd say,

783
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: like it's great to see them. And again that catch

784
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: by Luke, that is a tremendous catch when you go

785
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: back and watch it, like it's away from his body,

786
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: the wherewithal to get the hand tucked underneath the football,

787
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: like you know, it's it's a great play. And then

788
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: the senate stuff. So I think it's awesome that they're

789
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: finding these these moments in the offense to execute. And

790
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: again like this is this is the this is the

791
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: first step, right, it's you got to maybe the second step.

792
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: You got to see it in practice, you see it

793
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: in the game. And then all of a sudden, it's like, hey,

794
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: maybe we can get Luke on you know, a route

795
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: that Terry would normally get, or we can isolate him

796
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: and he can run this go ball and we can

797
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: trust him to win. And or Senate, now we can

798
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: run that Like you're talking about that leak in the

799
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: red zone that Zach got in Green Bay, and now

800
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 3: maybe Ben's earned that opportunity and Zach can be the decoy.

801
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 3: So I just think that's this is all good for

802
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: a team that has playoff, Super Bowl aspirations. Cultivating this

803
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: young depth early in the season I think is immaculate

804
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to pay dividends down the road.

805
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on the Luke catch too, Like that's a

806
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: really unusual venue. It's it's times Square in the middle

807
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: of the field there, like there was a million times

808
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: that things are happening. You get distracted so quickly that

809
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: they're there their replay or whatever their screens. It's like

810
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: it's wild in there. So it's cool though, right, usual environment.

811
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: It's an usual environment to make a catch like that too, honestly.

812
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: But I mean, like, first off, how awesome was that stadium?

813
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: And every everybody from the ownership group's going around saying, oh,

814
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: we're getting all this information, And I was like, man,

815
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: if the stadium looks anything like this, we're going to

816
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: be doing all right. Like it's a cool spot to

817
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: play some football games, you know, a fletch. I mean,

818
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's maybe I'm wrong, but you've seen

819
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: a lot.

820
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: I love it. I thought it was awesome. Brah, Have

821
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: you got something against top Square?

822
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, bra I had nobody gets square.

823
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if when the ball is dropping on

824
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: New Year's you might not see it because of all

825
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: the screens around you. So like, now shrink that into

826
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: a tiny little piece of leather and guess what, you know,

827
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: you might have a hard time catching the ball. All right,

828
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: let me go back to Bill week by week by weeks.

829
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: He's like growing into this, you know, explosive playmaker from

830
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: the position. He plays more physical than I think I

831
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: expected but didn't know. He gets skinny. He admits that

832
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: he sees things and just takes off and uses his instincts.

833
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: And London, you were talking about this on the air

834
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: and afterwards as well. For someone his age who also

835
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: didn't play almost at all the year before. He's got

836
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: a level of patience when he runs the ball that

837
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: is really really unusual.

838
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Yes he does. And I told him, I told you

839
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: A guy that I can remember having that type of

840
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: patience that I win against was a Ladanian Tomlinson when

841
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: he was a rookie, and I was like, man, I'm

842
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: just so I'm used to rookies running backs just going

843
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: on thousand miles per hour, not letting their blocks up

844
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: set up, and just wanted to hit the hole. And

845
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: and that was that was the one thing that oppressed

846
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: me so much about Ladamium early in Spare, I'm like, man,

847
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: this is a rookie with all his patients, and for

848
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: Bill there's times where he just kind of being really

849
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: patient and then when he sees that crease and he

850
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: just hits it. And those are the makings that you

851
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: can't teach that as a as a as a running back.

852
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: You those are instinct of things that you just have

853
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: or you don't have. And he allows his blocks to

854
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: be set up. And then he also has that ability

855
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: to say, okay, it's time to it's time to kick

856
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: it in the sixth gear, and he can do it

857
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: in the heart beating. And there was a there was

858
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: one time yesterday. I mean it was probably a crease

859
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: about this this why that he got through It's like, man,

860
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: how how did he get through that hole? But unique ability,

861
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: uncount ability, and they're gonna probably start to get put

862
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: them on his plate. He had the two receptions for

863
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: thirty nine yards. Sure you'll probably you'll start to see

864
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: his his role expan a lot more too, especially as

865
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: he improves as in past protection Flutch.

866
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: I will say, man, you must had a really good

867
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: time out in La. Man, your voice is I can't

868
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: wait to watch the bram cam this week. Sew see

869
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: where see where that voice went with all that shouting

870
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: you got going on there, Bud. But yeah, I think

871
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: the other thing too about Bill Krosky Merrit is like

872
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 3: when he had like these great acceleration metrics coming out

873
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: of the combine, and I think you see that when

874
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: he's playing right. You know, it's like one of those

875
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: things where it's like, yeah, do the numbers of the

876
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: combine always translate or do the GPS numbers always translate

877
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: to what you see on the field? And not always,

878
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: But I think in his case, you see like the

879
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 3: importance of having a back that can quickly accelerate into

880
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: into space and the vision is tremendous. We knew that

881
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: coming out, but you always wonder about the physical tools

882
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 3: and how they translate. And I think what you're talking

883
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: about his ability to kind of be patient and then

884
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: get to get from zero to sixty immediately and get

885
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: an actualize that crease, actualize that space is something that

886
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 3: makes him really really special. And again like the fearlessness

887
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: with which he plays and which he gets down here

888
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of backs that don't like mixing

889
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: it up in those tight creases because it's a big

890
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: hit usually, but he trusts himself. He's running with good physicality,

891
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: and again, like you feel the explosive element that he

892
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: adds to the offense, and an offense that with Terry

893
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: and Noah being out needs to find these explosive plays.

894
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 3: He seems like a natural person to kind of give

895
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: more opportunity to.

896
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: I think it's every week you could find a highlight

897
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: or someone the only thing they're able to grab is

898
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: his T shirt. This is every week with him, so

899
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: they're hanging on for dear life. His elusiveness is obvious,

900
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: and now he admitted to us. We talked to him

901
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: after the game and outside the locker room that fifteen

902
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: yard touchdown run was not supposed to go where it went,

903
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: but he just shrugged and he goes, I'm just playing football.

904
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm pretty convinced the first touchdown he scored against the

905
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: Giants was not supposed to go where it went, but

906
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: he popped it out there and he scored anyway. So

907
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: there are some instincts that are obvious here in him.

908
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to the coaches about when you

909
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: hear him say that wasn't supposed to go there and

910
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: the rookies doing it, but it's working out. So there's

911
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: a fine line here, obviously, but it's really working out.

912
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Its instincts are really on display.

913
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: Well.

914
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: It's interesting that he would say that because, like when

915
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: you watch the clip. It's like the way the linebacker

916
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: fit the block, the way the tack, the way that

917
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: the hat position is of the offensive lineman. It's like, yeah,

918
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: that's where it should go. So to me, he's like

919
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 3: reading it correctly, Like is it maybe the primary gap

920
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: where it's supposed to go? Probably not, but like in

921
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: terms of how it played out in the moment. And

922
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: that's the thing. Do you remember. I don't know if

923
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: you remember this fletch, but Kyle Shanahan and team meeting

924
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: always used to be like, I don't coach runners. I

925
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: don't want to like negate the thing that makes them

926
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: special in terms of their instinct. I try to like

927
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: lay a framework for them. But they got to go

928
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: paint the canvas. You know. Maybe I'll put the in

929
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: terms of this analogy, I'll go put the canvas on

930
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: the easel for him and I give them the paints

931
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: I want him to use. But they got to paint

932
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: the picture. And it's such a unique position in that way.

933
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: And I think you feel that creative genesse claw if

934
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: you will, when Bills running the football, and again that

935
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 3: you don't want to squash that, you know, if let's say,

936
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: for example, on that play bounces it out and he

937
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: gets tackled. For no game. You can bring him to

938
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: the sideline and be like, hey, man, just read that

939
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: block a little bit better. Whatever. But if he goes

940
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: to the course of touchdown, that's him with that bru

941
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: that that that brushstroke that makes him special.

942
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, and you that's that's what the You

943
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: look at all the great running backs in the history

944
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: of the game. I mean Barry Sadners, you think they

945
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: tried to coach. Probably of his runs were not designed

946
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 2: to go where they went. But at some point, once

947
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: you get the ball, they hands, yeah, hey this is

948
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: where it should hit. But if you get a flash

949
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: and hey I got a jump cut here and then

950
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: get get I see it crease here, you're going to

951
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: do that and naturalistics takes over.

952
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: This is This is one of those things, Fletch that

953
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: like I I kind of regret about my career in

954
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: a way, Like is I was so locked in on

955
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: coaching that it like forced me to play in a box. Right,

956
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 3: But the really good plays are able to take coaching,

957
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 3: understand where the lines in the court are and then

958
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: kind of do something special in or around them or

959
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: outside of them. Does that make sense.

960
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Think about it. Yeah, no, absolutely So think about Travis

961
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: Kelcey where he runs his routes he's doing is it's

962
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: dagger rout of his basic route, not gonna look the

963
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: same as other people's basic or other tight ends I had.

964
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: I had a linebacker coach when I played in Buffalo,

965
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: and Tequil spikes to myself. Tequilo was the wheel, I

966
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: was the mic, and the coach would tell us, Hey,

967
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: this is how it should be done. But if you

968
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: do it your way, just make sure it works so

969
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 2: I won't have a problem with it. And we would

970
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: be literally on the field and it might be for

971
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: the ball and we've exchanged responsibility. He I'm gonna do

972
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: that because now instinct come into play, Like, okay, I

973
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: feel like this is about to happen. So if you

974
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: do this to you're gonna be able to make an

975
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: attackle for a loss and I'll cover you and go

976
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: over the top or stuff like that. But you got

977
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: to make it work and just the ability to be

978
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: creative so to speak.

979
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: There like it feels like there's a little bit of

980
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: basketball to this team. Like Jaden obviously loves Kobe Bryant

981
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: talks about Kobe Bryant, and what separates him is he

982
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: instinctually does things within the context of what they're putting together.

983
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: They're unusual, special and can take a game over. Bill's

984
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: got a little bit of this, Like there's this kind

985
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: of like improvising element that's there. Like the Princeton offense

986
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: is amazing to watch with the unathletic players and they're

987
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: able to score all these points give them. Kobe Bryant,

988
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: he's not going to play within that contest. He's not

989
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: going to play within that context, and he's going to

990
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: take over in his own way. The special ones do that,

991
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: and I think we're you know, like I don't want

992
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: to get ahead of ourselves with Bill, but it's been

993
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: an unbelievable start to his career, and week to week

994
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: to week you're seeing more, more and more. He's capably

995
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: of being physical, he's capable of being elusive, and he's

996
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: capable of making big plays off instincts. It's all a

997
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: really good start.

998
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: Great start, great start, but again, like, well, he's he's

999
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: doing a good job, but it's also the system is

1000
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: doing a great job supporting him. The coaches. We just

1001
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: talked about the offensive line, like if you have time,

1002
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: if you're watching this and you have time to go

1003
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: back and watch his runs, look at how many clean

1004
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: runs he has. Like that will line that blocking surface

1005
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 3: is doing a great job. And I'm not saying that

1006
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: like what I'm not saying his special is. I'm not

1007
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: detracting from his special but like the front, that front

1008
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: is playing so so well, and I think it's just

1009
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: by jugaposition. If you look like a mari and Hampton

1010
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 3: or Marian Hampton. I thought had a great day running

1011
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 3: the football and in some ways had a better day

1012
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 3: than Bill in terms of running the football, breaking tackles,

1013
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 3: creating after contact. The problem is that our defensive line

1014
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: was in the backfield every single play and he had

1015
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: to be creative and to get a two yard game,

1016
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: while Bill is being creative to get to a ten

1017
00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: yard game.

1018
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeap out And I'm gonna watch that film. Bill great.

1019
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: I know I'm saying you had a great game, but

1020
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 3: like we gotta it's it's a Football is the ultimate

1021
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: team game, Fletch. You know what I'm saying. Football is

1022
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: the game.

1023
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely It's time to give out the belt, Broh.

1024
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: You want to give out to the belt belt?

1025
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1026
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: Look at the music. It's coming in and everyone's decided.

1027
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 4: It's time for the Big Fletch Commander Heavyweight Championship. Introducing

1028
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: the challenger, Bill Krossky Merritt and the reigning defending undisputed

1029
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: Big Fletch Commander Heavyweight Champion, Bobby Wagner.

1030
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I appreciate you, Logan hold him

1031
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: down the belt in the Big Bear AI Command Center. Student.

1032
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: Let's pay those bills, baby, Oh.

1033
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. All right, So we got a heavyweight

1034
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: championship matchup going on here. Bobby Wagner, the ranting champion

1035
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: Big Flesh Commander's Heavyweight Champion, had a game yesterday. Fourteen tackles,

1036
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: eight of them solos hit on the quarterback. He's second

1037
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: in the National Football League with fifty six tackles on

1038
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: the season. In order to beat the champ, you got

1039
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: to beat the champ, so Bill Crosskey Merritt, he said, Man,

1040
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm coming here to try to beat the champ. What

1041
00:52:49,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: did he do? Fourteen rushes one hundred eleven yards, two touchdowns,

1042
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: perceptions for thirty nine yards.

1043
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: Let's go first.

1044
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: Washington runner with one hundred plus yards Russian posts against

1045
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers since twenty thirteen. That was Alpha Mrs.

1046
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: More than that team, Fletch.

1047
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: We both row on the team, both throw on that team.

1048
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: Man defense balled out. Bobby was leading the charge.

1049
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 3: But and now.

1050
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: Big Fletcher Commanders heavyweight champion Bill Crosskey married.

1051
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: Let's go. I think that's all deserve though, as much

1052
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: as that's hard, I'm sure for you to not give

1053
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: it to your boy, your best friend.

1054
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta I got we got Kendrick's spear.

1055
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: But I gotta be honest, man cross But I gotta

1056
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: feeling Bobby's gonna come He's gonna come back to get

1057
00:53:59,320 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: his belt.

1058
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Crosskey Merritt. First Washington rookie running back to

1059
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: have a one hundred plus yard day since Brian Robinson

1060
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Last year, Jayden Daniels did have a

1061
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: one hundred plus yard rush day. He's a quarterback, so

1062
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: first rookie running back to do that for them in

1063
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: what was three years?

1064
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 3: What was the game you rush for one hundred yards? Jayden?

1065
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: Jayden last year? Oh well, I gotta look it up.

1066
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: We shouldn't asked me that question. Yeah, I don't remember.

1067
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: I gotta look it up. All right real quick, since

1068
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: it is Bears week. Next game Monday night Football at

1069
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: Northwest Stadium. Bears, boy, feels like last year a little

1070
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: bit off a by like they were a year ago,

1071
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: and then we had one of the all time moments.

1072
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: So before we spend the week talking about how Washington's

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Speaker 1: going to look for their first win streak of the

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Speaker 1: year and beat the Bears, why don't we walk down

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Speaker 1: memory lane for a minute. It's been a year. What

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Speaker 1: do you remember about the hail Mary?

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Speaker 3: I remember you guys going nuts in the booth. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you that, just absolutely losing your minds.

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Speaker 1: Bears an eight deep for a minute the goal line,

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Speaker 1: they bring three, Daniel's backing up. He's just gonna have

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: to let one fly. Goes to the right side, steps

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Speaker 1: away from the defenders, gives himself some time now, steps up,

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Speaker 1: fires heads towards the end zone. It is who you

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Speaker 1: talk about A ball does on the Girls lamp.

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Speaker 2: A girls series.

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Speaker 3: Just go back, and I remember being in like a

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Speaker 3: really poor position to watch it. Anyway, we go ahead.

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Speaker 2: You weren't going nuts on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was, but I remember you guys going

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Speaker 3: absolutely crazy, just screaming because like usually you guys are

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00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: either's a semblance of professionalism. Bram always kind of get

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00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: the call out, you know what I'm saying, just trying

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00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: to force his way through there, no matter what the

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 3: situation is. But it was all of that was out

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Speaker 3: the window. Ever. All three of us were just fans,

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00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 3: and so like that's what I remember, is like the

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Speaker 3: stadium going nuts, you guys going nuts in the headset

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Speaker 3: and yeah, just and the other thing I remember vividly

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Speaker 3: about it is Adam Peters in a full suit sprinting

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Speaker 3: down the sideline to go celebrate with people on the field.

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00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: Like that's another thing. I just like, you know, you're

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Speaker 3: on the sideland you see stuff. Is like him just

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00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: booking it in his nice, you know, five hundred dollars

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00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: shoes in the suit that shouldn't is like perfectly tailored

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00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 3: at a full speed dead run down to go celebrate

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Speaker 3: with the boys.

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Speaker 2: Love that, and I just remember I remember thinking, first

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Speaker 2: of all, why we're in this situation? Because I felt

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00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: like we dominated that game, and yet we were down

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: at that point, and it was just like how did

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00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 2: we get here? So that's the one thing I remember,

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00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 2: The first thing I remember, and then just it felt

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00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: like it took Jaden forever to throw that football. Before

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: he actually launched it, I was like, man, at one point,

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00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: I was like, he gotta throw it, because I thought

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00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: he was gonna get sack before he threw it. And

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: then just obviously, like matter from heaven, when Noah Brown

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00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: caught that ball, I was like, are you freaking kidding me?

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Speaker 2: Just just a surreal moment when I know I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget him. I'm sure you guys won't either.

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Speaker 1: No, I think amazingly like it was the easiest hail

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Speaker 1: Mary catch I've ever seen in my life because it

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Speaker 1: just popped up in the air. I remember them, you know,

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00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: talking about it the week after where they were saying like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we practiced that scenario where he went exactly where he was.

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Speaker 1: Noah went exactly where he was supposed to go, just

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Speaker 1: in case the ball gets tipped up like that. It

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Speaker 1: just fell into his arms. And yeah, I had in

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Speaker 1: the booth an out of the body experience, like I,

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Speaker 1: you know, you never expect that to be completed, and

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00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: I just lost my mind. And then I watched the

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Speaker 1: video of it again and I don't know how I

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00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: stayed in the booths because you pushed me so hard

1134
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: that I can't believe I didn't like literally fly out

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Speaker 1: of the booths into the seats below.

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Speaker 2: Us that moment. Man couldn't help myself, Brahma, couldn't help myself.

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Speaker 1: No, I ended up giving a Ted talk about it,

1138
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Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding. That's not an exaggeration. I

1139
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: was like asked to give a TED talk and the

1140
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: subject was that in that moment and like what that

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00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: meant for the franchise, for the city, you know, like

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the first huge moment the team had, but

1143
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: I think nationally, even though that Cincinnati game happened on

1144
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: Monday night and I think was kind of the coming

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: out for everybody and we had a crazy that to me,

1146
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: was it even more impossible throw catch situation that occurred

1147
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Speaker 1: than what ended up happening here. Like the world saw that,

1148
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: and I think like the perception of the team literally

1149
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: changed in that moment when that happened. And then it

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00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: was just cool to be part of it, because you know,

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: we were like racking our brains and we looked it

1152
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: up in the ninety plus year history of the franchise,

1153
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: we don't believe that it ever happened before, so it

1154
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: was so cool to be part of it.

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Speaker 3: Really cool, really really cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Logan, you just stood there and what giggled?

1157
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Speaker 2: What I did?

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Speaker 3: Laugh? But you know it just like it's one of

1159
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: those moments where you just don't believe that it's happening.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's like I thought I told something this, Like you

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00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: practice that every Friday. Every Friday, you practice that drill,

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Speaker 3: and maybe it's Saturday in the walk through, I forget

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Speaker 3: the Saturday. You praxe it every every week you practice it,

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Speaker 3: and you practice that exact same setup. You say, hey,

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Speaker 3: three people are going to run down there, guys in

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Speaker 3: the middle, one guys in the front, one gets in

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Speaker 3: the back. You try to tip it up. The guy

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Speaker 3: behind and catches it. And you know, so I've done

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Speaker 3: over ten years. I've done that a bunch in college,

1171
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Speaker 3: we did the same thing and it never works that way.

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Speaker 3: It never works that way. And so to see it

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Speaker 3: like textbook executed like textbook right, everyone jumped up, Noah's

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Speaker 3: standing right there. Like for me, I just remember my

1175
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: vision on it was like the whole group jumped up.

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01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, it's gonna get batted down. And then

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Speaker 3: it got tipped up and then everybody fell, and then

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Speaker 3: Noah's just standing there it looked like almost completely by himself,

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: and then you catch a full I just that was

1180
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: the surreal nature of it. Was like, that is exactly

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Speaker 3: what we practiced every single day or every single Saturday walkthrough.

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01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: And then to see it actually hit was in the

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Speaker 3: way that you designed. It was also kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like an instructional video like put out

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Speaker 1: to like youth camps. Here is how to execute a

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Speaker 1: hail Mary. And it actually really happened. And I've never

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Speaker 1: seen it happen like that anytime ever. Has it ever

1188
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: happened like that? It was incredible.

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Speaker 2: And then Noah's response after he caught it, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like it was a random it was a Saturday

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: Saturday hell Mary cat walked through. Yeah, like he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He caught it and just walked away.

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Speaker 1: Meantime, everyone else is screaming on the top of their lugs,

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01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: and He's like, I don't know what I did. Man,

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: just caught the football, did what I was told to do,

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Speaker 1: all right, everybody. I can't wait to see what we

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Speaker 1: get this time around. Rematch Monday Night Northwest Stadium Bears

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Speaker 1: and commanders, and that'll be the next time we have

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Speaker 1: our booth review