1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: This is a game. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: Let me push out, Let me push out on. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: You want NFL experience, and this is the show for you. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: Third Law draw with LaVar airy ten as a defense 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: of guy TJ. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: Houshman Zana, I'm just bringing the viewers into how grown 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: men in the locker room, like I don't play with 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: some dude that you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: who it was they was putting hands. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 4: On you and Blaxico burd they are the same person, 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 4: the same exact quarterback. 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: It's a show with three and the best to ever 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: do it on and off the field and now live 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: from the tai Iraq dot com studios of Fox Sports Radio. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Here's Super Bowl champion Blaxico bur maam sitting in for 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: the guys. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Here's Dan Fire. Welcome inn. 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 5: It is week four of the college football season and 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 5: a week three in the National Football League where one 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: team has already made a huge decision about their future. 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 5: We are broadcasting glad Forth Tierre dot com studios. 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You got LeVar Arrington. 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 5: I mean, there's gonna be a lot on your shoulders. 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 5: You're gonna be to have to be the lone soldier 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 5: in today's show. 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: Here on up on game man, I'm all good man, 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: if anybody can handle this me so, I'm gonna miss 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 4: my brothers today. And it's a beautiful Saturday, man. A 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: lot of good football, a lot of good content, content 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: for our listeners, college and professional. 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: So let's get it on. 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what you'll find out about forty minutes 40 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: or so, just how big plaques is. 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: Big Game is. We all know about the super Bowl. 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: But yes, there's there's a moment in Plaxa's career that 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 5: I'm not sure that he necessarily even knows what I'm 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 5: talking about. That unfortunately for me, hit home with one 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 5: of my favorite teams. So we're gonna we're gonna dive 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 5: into that that's gonna come up in forty minutes don't 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: start notting. Hey, hey, we're on the same side with 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 5: some things. This one you broke my heart. That that's 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: all it is. 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: That's all it is. Hey, hey, I have a personal 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: mana just business. It's less. 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: Is this on this Saturday afternoon about twenty five, twenty 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 5: six years ago. We'll get to that in a little 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 5: bit later, but we have to start off with the 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: big news in the National Football League this week. The 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers benching Bryce Young. And this isn't just a 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 5: normal benching. This is a number one overall pick from 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 5: a draft that happened a little over a year ago. 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 5: Panthers zero and two to start the season. Bress Young 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 5: has yet to throw a touchdown pass in this season. 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: How surprised were you that Carolina ended up making this 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: move so early on in this season? 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: You know what, unlike everybody else, what they've been talking 64 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: about all week with the bitch of Bryce Young. I 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: have to be honest, man, I wasn't surprised at all. 66 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I have to be honest. I mean, unfortunately 67 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 4: for him, you know, he's twenty three years old, he's 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 4: already had you know, two different head coaches and three 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: offensive coordinators in a nineteen game span, and that's not 70 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: good for any quarterback. But I do also feel that 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: the organization, I think they're starting to realize that they 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: got it wrong. They traded up from the ninth pick 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: to get Bryce Young to the first pick, and you 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: know what, you could have had Sej strou Sure, And 75 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: I think that really burns that they got it wrong. 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: And I think they went into this draft process listening 77 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: to Nick Saban and he sold Carolina on Bryce Young. 78 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: But you got to go back to college. I mean, 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: look at he had a brilliant, brilliant college career, but 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: you also have to take into account and look at 81 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 4: the guys that he was playing with. He had a 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: Mark Cooper, he had Jered Judy, he had Calvin Ridley. 83 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: If you go back and look at those games when 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 4: he was playing in Alabama, he wasn't making contested throws. 85 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 4: He didn't have to be accurate to get these guys 86 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: in football because these guys were so talented. 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: That they were four and five yards wide open. 88 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 4: So all he had to do was get the ball 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: up in there, and these dynamic playmakers were making plays 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: for him. 91 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because you mentioned Saban, and I 92 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 5: agree with you along these lines. It's always surprised me 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: that we have these. I guess we hold it against 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 5: Ohio State prior to CJ. Stride that they couldn't it's 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 5: an NFL quarterback. But it wasn't like Alabama had this 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: murderer's role. You know, Tua was still young yet we 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: you know mac Jones was a first round pick, but 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 5: it wasn't. It wasn't like Alabama was just producing quarterback 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 5: after quarterback after quarterback. 100 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: Is that all Nick Saban getting Bryce Young at number one? 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 5: Or do you think there was just the fact that 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: we have this you know, crush on Alabama and we 103 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: assume that everybody with a Crimson tide's going to succeed 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 5: at the NFL because history doesn't show that. 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 4: I think it was more on the the the finished 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: product from Ohio State quarterbacks going to the NFL, and 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 4: I think Carolina made that decision based off the history 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: of the quarterbacks that were drafted from Ohio State going 109 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: to the next level. I really believe that, I really do. 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: I don't think it was more Nick Saban. I think 111 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 4: it was Carolina doing their research, the due diligence with 112 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: scouting and saying, you know what, the quarterbacks moving on 113 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: from Ohio State in the next level, they haven't done well. 114 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: And I also say this. 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: People may not like this what I'm i about to 116 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 4: say about Bryce Young, but I believe his stature and 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: if with him going out and playing at this level 118 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 4: is his major deficiency. 119 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: Man, I just believe he's too small. I really do. 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: You have to play him in the shotgun and if 121 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 4: you look at when he gets pressure up the middle, 122 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: he can't see. If you look at that scene route 123 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: that interception he threw last week, he was throwing to 124 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: a spot. I don't mean, I don't even believe that 125 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 4: he saw the wire receiving. Now the field and the 126 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: first player of the game againsh I believe it's the 127 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints. 128 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: I don't believe the young man can see. He wouldn't 129 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: come out and admit it. 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: But he has to be in an office where they 131 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: can move him around, getting him out of the pocket. 132 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: He can't play on the center. He has to. If 133 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: you look at him in the shotgun, he's. 134 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: Like seven US deep just to see and and I'm 135 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: trying to vision him, you know, making these plays with 136 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: a Michael Strahan standing in front of a JPP or Justin. 137 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: Tuck or Ocean you and you are. They're not even 138 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: really trying to sack them. 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: They're just pushing them back, getting their hands up, and 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: they're smothering them. 141 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 2: He can't see down the football field. 142 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: And everybody says it's not about size, but at the 143 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: quarterback position it is. And I have to be honest, 144 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: I played this game for a very long time. Some 145 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 4: of those presses that he's getting up in the middle, 146 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: you know those you know, the the Justin Herberts and 147 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: the Patrick Mahomes and Eli Manning. 148 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: These guys who. 149 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: Are six four, sixty five and sixty six, they can 150 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: they can take a rush coming up the field and 151 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: still deliver the football. Soon somebody breaks through the pocket 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: in the middle. He has to get out of the 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: pocket because he can no longer see. And I'm telling you, 154 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: I'm looking at some of the throws that he making, 155 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: these defense alignment and these defense ends, they're they're they're 156 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: getting pushed in the pocket, they're getting their hands up 157 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: and a young man just can't see over top of them. 158 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 5: It's funny because we just we've kind of laid this 159 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: out in the last five minutes, you feel that Carolina 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: felt like we don't want to follow up the history 161 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: of an Ohio State quarterbacks, so we're going to stay 162 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: away from that. Yet, when we talk about short quarterbacks plaques, 163 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: the only quarterback we talk about is Drew Brees, and 164 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 5: that's because I feel like it's the only quarterback we 165 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 5: can talk about. Any quarterback of a of a smaller stature. 166 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: Drew Brees obviously is the high mark. But now it 167 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: doesn't pay a lot to compare anybody to Russell Wilson. 168 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: Right now. Bryce Young is not Kyler Murray, completely different. 169 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 5: So when we're talking about that type of quarterback, the 170 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: only person that we can say is Drew Brees. And 171 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: while Breese is on another planet for the type of 172 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: quarterback that he was else, I think it says a 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: lot on how many smaller quarterbacks didn't make it work. 174 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 5: And that's maybe while we're seeing Bryce Young have the 175 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 5: difficulty to your point of being just five ten. 176 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: But look at the offense that Drew Brees was in. 177 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: He had a running game, Sean Payton was a great 178 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: play caller. A lot of those passes that Drew Brees 179 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: were throwing. They were quick game. He was getting the 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: ball out quick to the sideline, and he had a 181 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: pluth through of good wide receivers. 182 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: But at the. 183 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: Same time, he was in an offense that fit that 184 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: fit his size, and. 185 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: Sean Payton was a great play caller. Bryce Young doesn't 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: have that. 187 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: He's already had two head coaches in a nineteen games 188 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: man and three offensive coordinators. 189 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: So he's not. 190 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 4: Going to have a rapport with the play calling and 191 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: the wide receivers and the offense. And Carolina has to 192 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 4: be beating themselves up and David Temple, all those guys 193 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 4: got it wrong. 194 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: And where did it go from here? I'll tell you 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: what I think. 196 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 5: Andy Dalton is starting this week, not only because Bryce 197 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 5: Young has been so bad. I think that Dan Morgan, 198 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 5: being a former player as your GM, because I think 199 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: the decision came from above. 200 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: The way that Dave. 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: Canalis sounded on Sunday was different from how he sounded 202 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: on Monday, and I know he wants to take responsibility 203 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 5: as a head coach. But whether it came from Temper, 204 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 5: whether it came from Morgan, whether it came from whoever, 205 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 5: you need to have something good happen to this team, 206 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: and that's why I think Andy Dalton is starting on Sunday. 207 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 5: Aside from being dead last in points and yards this season, 208 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 5: it was a team that was thirty first in points 209 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 5: last year, thirty second that's dead last for those not 210 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 5: in the know, and yards last year, and twenty ninth 211 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 5: in points. So this is now, you know, nineteen games 212 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 5: basically of Bryce Young's career where this team has been 213 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: a rock bottom. You just need something good from it. 214 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: That's why I think that the decision came from above. 215 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: I mean, young men, it's only average in one hundred 216 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: and seventy three passing yards a game, eleven touchdowns and 217 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: thirteen interceptions. I mean, if you look at Dan Morgan's career, 218 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: what position did he play? Linebacker? He played linebacker. So 219 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 4: he understands what Bryce Young is going through right now 220 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: because he is seeing their offense through his eyes from 221 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: a defensive standpoint, and he knows what the deficiency is 222 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: from Bryce Young. It's not that he can't play the position. 223 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: I really, he's just too small of a quarterback to 224 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: play in this league. And you know, throw guys open 225 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: and to be accurate and to put the ball where 226 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: it's supposed to be where where whas he can only 227 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: get it and he doesn't have that at this level. 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 5: I don't think it's time is over in Carolina just yet. 229 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: I'm not saying to wrap it up is a rap. 230 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: You think it's a rap. 231 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: I think it's a rap. I don't think you go 232 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: back to him. I mean, what are you gonna do. 233 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: You're gonna put him back on a football field and further, 234 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: you know, let him lose his confidence. And from a 235 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: locker room standpoint, I don't believe the guys think that 236 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: he's the best option for them to win. I believe 237 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: everybody is looking at Andy Dalton in practice sure, and 238 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: they're saying Andy Dalton gives her the best chance to 239 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: win on Sundays, and that's what they went with. 240 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 5: If you if you lay out this scenario though, this 241 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: is why. This is why I think there's still some 242 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: juice left in the orange. Maybe not a lot, but 243 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: there's some left. If the Panthers win with Andy Dalton, 244 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 5: Bryce Young is not gonna see the field. 245 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: That's that's not gonna happen. 246 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 5: However, if they don't win with Andy Dalton at some 247 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: point this year, you got to make sure because going 248 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 5: in the next year, you're gonna have to draft a quarterback. 249 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: So you gotta make sure that everything is exhausted with 250 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 5: Bryce on you. 251 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: And then there's still there's still the possibility. 252 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 5: And I don't wish this out anyone, and I hate 253 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 5: even putting it out in the universe, but there could 254 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 5: be an injury situation where Bryce Young is needed. Maybe 255 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 5: this time will allow him to take a step back 256 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: and absorb some of the stuff that he wasn't able 257 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: to as that starter, that main guy from day one. 258 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 4: I mean, take a step back. We're in the pocket. 259 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: I mean, what is he What's he gonna do? Get 260 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: further away from the line. I don't think that he's 261 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: going to go in a game on Sunday. If Andy 262 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 4: Dalton goes down and he's gonna play any better, He's 263 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: going to be in the same same offense. I've always 264 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: said that the best teacher in this game is, you know, 265 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: standing on the sideline and watching and being an observer 266 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: and learning the game and seeing it from the sideline. 267 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: But I don't think. 268 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: That that that in this instance is going to help 269 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: Bryce seng O this football team. Wow, you just drafted 270 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: a quarterback Number one two years ago, and you are 271 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: in the position they are going to be in the 272 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: position of having a first pick in the NFL Draft. 273 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: You dress drafted a quarterback with a number one pick 274 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: two years ago, and you have the number one pick 275 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: staring you in the face, and come next April, what 276 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: do you do if you're the Carolina Panthers. 277 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to take a quarterback. If you have 278 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 5: to take one, whether it's Schador or whoever. 279 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: Well, Carson Beck or Brought, whoever it may be, you 280 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: have to take a quarterback. You cannot bench this man 281 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: two years into his career, going to next season and 282 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: hoping and hoping that you're going to have a better outcome. 283 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: I don't see that happening. 284 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: There is one move, and it's not that I disagree 285 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 5: with the Dave Canalis move to Andy Dalton this week. 286 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 5: There is a move though that Dave canallis talked about 287 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: that they won't be making that I agree with. This 288 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 5: is what Canalis said about the possibility of dealing Bryce 289 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: Young this season. 290 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: This was earlier this week. That's not something we're really considering. 291 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 5: You know, we have a great situation with our quarterbacks 292 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 5: right now, with guys that have experienced. So we love 293 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: where we're at, and we're all all hands on deck. 294 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: We're folks on playing the Raiders this week. 295 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 5: Okay, so he said, yeah, I was gonna say, but 296 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 5: I love where we're at. 297 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: Is not truthful. 298 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: I like to say he has more caps than lids 299 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 5: on that one plaques. 300 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: That's my that's my line. But the point is, you 301 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: can't trade Bryce Young right now because his value is 302 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: at the absolute lowest. 303 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: It would not get You couldn't get anything for Bryce 304 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 5: Young right now. 305 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Are going to them who exact exactly exactly. 306 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: So so while he's saying they're not looking to deal them, 307 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 5: I wouldn't trade them either. Like there's at least if 308 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: you wait a month, maybe some people may forget what 309 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 5: they've seen in the first two weeks of the season. 310 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: Now is not the time to do so. I don't 311 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 5: think the Dolphins want to take on a reclamation product. 312 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: I don't know you project. I don't think that the 313 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 5: Rams are looking Jimmy Garoppolo is going to come off 314 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: of r These are just teams that have been talked 315 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 5: about as possible abilities. 316 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: There's it doesn't even make sense to trade him right now. 317 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: Man, the harsh reality of what Canal has just said. 318 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: You can't trade him. Nobody's going to uh trade for him. 319 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 4: So what are you going to look at? Colina pensis. 320 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: You can't trade him, Where's he going to go? 321 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: It's a project waiting to happen all over again at 322 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: the first pick, and they they're just they're just beating 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: themselves up and saying that, you know what, this might 324 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: be one of the worst trades in NFL history, from 325 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: the ninth pick to the first pick. QUI Bryce Young 326 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: and come this April NFL Draft, they are going to 327 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: be in a situation where they're going to have the 328 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: number one or number two pick and they're going to 329 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: have to take a quarterback. And what are you going 330 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: to do with Bryce Young moving forward? He's just going 331 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: to be a backup quarterback. I really believe for the 332 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: rest of his career. He's plexical Birds. I'm Dan Byer. 333 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: It is up on Game And to make your final 334 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 5: point about that trade, it's been talked about this week, 335 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: but the Panthers still ode bears the second round pick 336 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 5: from the deal coming up in April. I know it's 337 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: absolutely nuts. It is up on Game livefrothetirek dot Com Studios. 338 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 5: I guess short quarterback seems to be the theme. That 339 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 5: seems to be the theme because there's a situation developing 340 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh where Russell Wilson just may not get his 341 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 5: job back. We'll discuss that. He's Plexico Burus. I'm Dan Byer. 342 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 5: This is up on Game on Fox Sports Radio. 343 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 344 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 345 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 346 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: listen live. 347 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: It's up on Game. He's Plexico Burrs. 348 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 5: I'm Dan Byer in for LeVar Arrington and TJ. Huschman 349 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: Zada on this Saturday edition. Upset could be bringing in 350 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 5: Columbus at least early. Marshall's on the board. Brian Fenlan 351 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 5: eleven up Gold, Marshall coming up in just a little bit. 352 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 5: We'll dive more into college football and the rivalries and 353 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 5: whatnot in about twenty. 354 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Minutes or so. 355 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: And to tease the story, as plex says go, Marshall, 356 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 5: Plexico Burros had some success on the field. That Marshall 357 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 5: had some success on the field about twenty six years ago. 358 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: That completely broke my heart. We'll talk about that in 359 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 5: twenty minutes or so. I got to get the inside story, 360 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: but that's for another time. We're gonna focus on these 361 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: short quarterbacks because it seems to be a theme. 362 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: From Bryce Young to Russell Wilson. 363 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 5: We go completely different story for what's happening in Pittsburgh. 364 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: Now, the Steelers got some bad news today. 365 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 5: Troy Fatano, their first round pick right tackle, goes down 366 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 5: with a knee injury and practice yesterday. 367 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: Basically the third start of the Steelers. 368 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: Have now lost on their offensive line this season, and 369 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: we're only two weeks in. We don't know how long 370 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 5: he's going to be out of action, but he will 371 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 5: not play tomorrow against the Chargers. That two to zer matchup, 372 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: justin fields is going to get the start. Mike Tomlin 373 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 5: always towing the line the right way and explaining on 374 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: how they're handling Russell Wilson's injury. But there is a 375 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 5: report from Jerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post cause atte 376 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 5: prior to even week two plaques that the Steelers were 377 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: planning to start Justin Fields in Denver and then also 378 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: in this game against the Chargers. So that begs the 379 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 5: question with another win on Sunday for Pittsburgh put Russell 380 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 5: Wilson further away from ever getting his starting job. 381 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: You know what, I know Mike Tomlin very well, and 382 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin is a rhythm guy, especially at the quarterback position. 383 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: He is going to go with the team a quarterback 384 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: that has a continuity together at that time. And Justin 385 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: Fields has only thrown for two hundred and seventy three 386 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: yaws in two games and a touchdown, but he has 387 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: no turnovers. He's completing sixty nine percent of his passes. 388 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 4: But he's two and o and it's the first time 389 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: in his career from the first two games of the 390 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: season and that he's been over five hundred. So you 391 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: look at the situation. If he was only two with 392 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy three yards passing touchdown, Russell Wilson 393 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: will be starting this week, sure, But I always say 394 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: that it's easier to, you know, correct situations or issues 395 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: that you're have in with your team when you're winning, 396 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: but when you're losing and you have issues, you have 397 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: to find a way to get him corrected immediately. Maybe 398 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: the Steelers aren't playing their best football offensively, but when 399 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 4: you're winning games. That's what counts in his league. He's 400 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: two and oh and I believe that, you know, he's 401 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: gonna he's going to get better. 402 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: He has a great young offense. 403 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: I believe that George Pickens is one of the most 404 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: dynamic wide receivers in all of football that he doesn't 405 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: get credit for. And he plays in Pittsburgh and he 406 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: plays in a run our first offense. But I believe 407 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: for Justin Fields, if he goes out there this week 408 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: and he wins a third game, don't I don't think 409 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin is going to take Justin Fields off of 410 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: the football field and put Russell Wilson, you know, back 411 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 4: in the football game. Troyano, he's out. Justin Fields is 412 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: ten years younger. Maybe they miss a few blocks, and 413 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 4: Justin Fields as an athlete can use his legs, get 414 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 4: out of the pocket, make plays, you know, you know, 415 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: because he's so gifted as a quarterback. But I believe 416 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: that if he goes out and wins this game tomorrow, 417 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: offensive for the Pittsburgh steel is that unless Justin Fields 418 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: just goes out there and stinks it up, he is 419 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: going to be the starting quarterback for this football team. 420 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: If he continues to win. Listen, if Justin Fields can 421 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 4: go out and get the Pittsburgh Steelers twenty four twenty 422 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: seven points a game, I don't believe that that many 423 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: offenses in his league that are going to score twenty 424 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 4: four plus points on this Pittsburgh defense. 425 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: Sure, sure, and then and heck was scoring down in 426 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: this league. I mean, it's gonna make it even difficult 427 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: for teams, especially if TJ. 428 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: Watt and Cameron. 429 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 5: Hayward and other guys are playing at top at the 430 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 5: top of their game. My question, though, is something that 431 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 5: you kind of you know, led the point with when 432 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: you're talking about Justin Fields. If they do start winning again, 433 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: this is a city that wants Super Bowls. I mean, 434 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 5: it's six berg right, this is this seventh seed, is 435 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 5: the wild card. Doesn't necessarily live up to the expectations 436 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: with the Steelers. So my question is on the Justin 437 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 5: Field side of things, at what point do you open 438 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: it up? Ran more against the Falcons than he needed 439 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 5: to against the Broncos. 440 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: Only had eight carries in that Broncos game. 441 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 5: But again, this is a team that had six field 442 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: goals in the first game, scored just thirteen points a 443 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 5: week aldgo against Denver. At some point, you do have 444 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 5: to score a little bit more than the eighteen and thirteen. 445 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 5: As you're saying, if you put twenty four up, do 446 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: you expand Justin Field's passing game? Do you expand him 447 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 5: in the running game? If he is your guy, how 448 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: do you get to that twenty four point level? 449 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: I believe he's going to get better. I mean, I mean, 450 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 4: I really do. I mean it's only been two games 451 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 4: into the NFL season. Not a lot of reps in 452 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 4: the preseason with this new style of coaching that that 453 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: these coaches have because a lot of guys aren't playing 454 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 4: in the preseason, so it's still young. I really believe 455 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: that that Justin Phield is going to be better in 456 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 4: this offense. They're going to have to open it up 457 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 4: and they will. But you know what, just win, baby, 458 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: That's what Al Davis say say. If you win ugly, 459 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: the check goes in the left hand call him instead 460 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: of the right hand column. 461 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: And that's all they care about in Pittsburgh. 462 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: Are we considering, you know, the Pittsburgh still is to 463 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 4: be a super Walklintendo whatnot. But just go out and 464 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: win football games. Don't lose a game, if you justin 465 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: fields manage it, you know, don't turn the football over 466 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: and you know, let's just defense, go out there and 467 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: get stops and hold team to under twenty one points. 468 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 5: Do you think it's sustainable? Do you think this way? 469 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: I mean is man? Guess you are. It's the AFC North. 470 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just how it is. It's a low. 471 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: Scoring division when when they play divisional games, if you 472 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: look at these games that they're you know, twenty to thirteen. 473 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the best defensive conference in the football. 474 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: So you're going to have to find a way to 475 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 4: grid it out and be physical in the run game. 476 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: In the AFC North, I would say the only team 477 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: in the AFC North that depends on passing to win 478 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 4: football games in Cincinnati Bengals. Other than that, everybody else 479 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: is a run first offense. 480 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 5: I I just think they're gonna need a little bit more, 481 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 5: and you. 482 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: Know, they'll get it. They'll get it. They'll find it. 483 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 5: It's got and it's got to either be from Justin 484 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 5: Field's legs or Justin Field's arm. And I have more 485 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 5: confidence in his legs. But then what does that do 486 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: to the George Pickens of the world who's maybe not getting. 487 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: The football as much they did. They did show some good. 488 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: Chemistry in their game against the Falcons, so I shouldn't 489 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 5: necessarily say that, but Pickings had to make a couple 490 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 5: of all world catches, uh. 491 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: Right, in those he does he does every Sunday. Yeah, 492 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Justin Fields is still young. In 493 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: his offense. He's two and oh. He hasn't turned the 494 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: football all over and when he was in Chicago, that's 495 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: what he was known for, throwing in exceptions, fumbling the football, 496 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: giving it away to the other team. And he's not 497 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: doing that. When you're two and oh. You could, if 498 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: you're the office coordinated, you can look at the schedule, 499 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 4: you know, prepare for these d fences and put him 500 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: in situations where he can be successful. And that is 501 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: exactly what Mike tom is going to do. He's not 502 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: going to, you know, be outside of the box, drop 503 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: back and throw the ball forty to forty five times 504 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: with Justin Fields because he's not that kind of quarterback. 505 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: They are going to play into the strengths of what 506 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 4: Justin Fields does well and long as they keep winning, 507 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't even matter. 508 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: I want to run my theory by you, because I 509 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 5: think it's a legitimate theory. It's not just something that 510 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 5: I cooked up and said, I'll just throw this and 511 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 5: see if it sticks against the wall. Let's see the 512 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Post Gazette report from Jerry Dulac was prior to 513 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 5: week two, they said Fields is going to start week 514 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: two in week three. I don't in week three. This 515 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 5: week tomorrow is their home opener. I think from what 516 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 5: they did in week one with Fields winning in Atlanta, 517 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 5: that they didn't want to put Russell Wilson in a scenario, 518 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 5: even if he was healthy plaques to make his debut 519 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 5: in the home opener and throw a stinker up against 520 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: the Chargers, and I think. 521 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: It bought them more time. 522 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: Where now, if you win in Denver, which they did, 523 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 5: then they were two and oh, now you can ride 524 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 5: that momentum at three and oh. But if they were 525 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 5: to say we're gonna take this week by week and 526 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 5: Russ is healthy this week and was able to play 527 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 5: against the Chargers and he doesn't perform well, I think 528 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: you've lost Russell Wilson for the entire season. 529 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: I don't think that situation at all. I mean, I 530 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: really don't, you know, you think that. 531 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: I believely say that Russell Wilson. 532 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: If Russell Wilson was healthy, he would have been the 533 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 4: day one start, because I would believe that Mike Tomlan 534 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 4: came out and said, basically said that Russell Wilson was 535 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 4: going to be a start, but he wasn't healthy, and 536 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 4: so the injury provided Justin Feels an opportunity. And listen, 537 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: nobody expected him to go down to the land and 538 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: win a football game, and nobody expected him to go 539 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 4: on a demo and win that football football game that 540 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 4: they did. 541 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: But I believe that they were owing. 542 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: To that that Russell Wilson, if he's not one hundred percent, 543 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: that he would be. 544 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: The starter this weekend. 545 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: But it's just it just so happens that the injury 546 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 4: afforded Justin Fields's opportunity and he's making the best of 547 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: it because those were two football games that I. 548 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: Didn't think they were going to win. 549 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, And now in two 550 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: and oh going going into week three, and if he 551 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: goes in and to the home opener tomorrow and he 552 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 4: wins that football game, Mike Tomlin is not going to 553 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: break up this offense. He's not going to insert Russell 554 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: Wilson in week four after three and zero. If Russell 555 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 4: Wilson is one hundred percent, Mike Tomlin is not going 556 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: to do that. 557 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: But and and that, and that's that was my theory 558 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 5: actually of going into week three is if you go 559 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 5: to because they had won in Atlanta, I actually thought 560 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: they were going to beat the Broncas. I just there's 561 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 5: no way they were going to lose the Bonecks. You know, 562 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: even though it was a thirteen to six rock fight 563 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 5: sort of game. There was no way that they were 564 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: going to lose that game. And I think this allowed 565 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 5: that cushion to give Tomlin a bit of space to 566 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 5: be like, okay, this reports out there now. Tomlin didn't 567 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 5: say he was going to start for two weeks. But 568 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 5: to your point is now it allows Fields to keep 569 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 5: rolling and they can do whatever they need to do 570 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 5: with Russell Wilson. I actually think Russell Wilson needs to 571 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 5: go into ato a scenario, and it may not be 572 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh nowt Plax, but he needs to go in and 573 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: save the day somewhere else. He can't go in with 574 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 5: expectations to do something if he's going to resurrect or 575 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: have any more juice in his career. And he's not 576 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: in his mid thirties, so who knows on how many 577 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 5: years he still has in his career. 578 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: But he's going to have to come in and be. 579 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: The guy to maybe save a dour situation or sour 580 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 5: situation instead of being the guy that you actually put 581 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: hope in. Because it didn't work in Denver and right 582 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: now there's nothing to show for it in Pittsburgh. Maybe 583 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: he can go save the day in Carolina. 584 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, he can't go down there and say today, 585 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: because that's getting ready to turn into the Titanic down 586 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 4: in Carolina. 587 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: But I'm just looking at Russell Wilson's situation. 588 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: I mean, he's ten years older than Justin Fields, and 589 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: I can almost guarantee you that Mike Tomlin and this 590 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: organization they bought Russell Wilson in to be the starter. Yeah, 591 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: and it didn't happen, and Justin Fields was basically an 592 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: insurance program if Russell Wilson wasn't healthy or if he 593 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 4: didn't go out and play well. But it's a three 594 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: sixty of what they wanted to happen at the quarterback position. 595 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: And I know Mike Tomlin and his team man in 596 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 4: this locker room. I know the feel Justin Fields is happy. 597 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: He's won two games and now down for the first 598 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 4: time in his career, he's able to gather some confidence. 599 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: And it's a It's a crazy thing what confidence can 600 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: do to a young player at if you haven't had 601 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: it at this level. And now he's starting to believe 602 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: that he is a starting quarterback in this league. 603 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: And I believe he's going to win again tomorrow. 604 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: He's Plexico bursts. I'm Dan Byer, this is up on games. 605 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 5: I'm sitting in for LaVar Arrington and t J. Hushman Jadaz. 606 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 5: We are live from the tirec dot Com studios. Let's 607 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 5: go to the news desk. Brian Finley gonna give us 608 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 5: an update Plax on what is happening on a busy 609 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 5: day in college football? 610 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Happy Saturday, Brian, how are you? 611 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? Likewise to you Plaux and Dan and Dan your hopes. 612 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 6: I know you've got those Wisconsin roots, so potentially in 613 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 6: Ohio State upset Special. Early on you pourted that out well, 614 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 6: your hopes of them and Marshall leading and maybe winning. 615 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 7: That sort of simmered and died down. 616 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 6: Pretty quickly as after Marshall scored the first touchdown. You 617 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 6: can watch this game Marshall versus number three Ohio State 618 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 6: and Fox Television with about six minutes to go. Now 619 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 6: in the first quarter, it was Will Howard throwing a 620 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 6: sixty eight yard screen pass for a score two plays 621 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 6: forty two seconds. This after the Marshall thundering herd had 622 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 6: a thirteen play seventy five yard drive took over seven 623 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 6: make it almost seven minutes. Ethan Payne on a third 624 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 6: and goal one yard out. He did score. That was 625 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 6: the first score of the game, but Ohio staid quickly responding. 626 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 6: Twenty first rank Clemson against dense State. That's another game 627 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 6: that we are witnessing and watching right now. It is 628 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 6: twenty one to nothing Tigers as they have overcome that 629 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 6: early season opener blip and put up some big numbers 630 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 6: since Kate Klubnick, the Tigers quarterback fifty five yard touchdown 631 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 6: run along with two touchdowns through the ara thirty one 632 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 6: yarder and a two yarder, so he is dealing. Also 633 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 6: in the world of college football, we do have James 634 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 6: Madison in North Carolina. They are battling it out here 635 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 6: and James Madison scoring the first eleven points of this game, 636 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 6: but North Carolina has responded with two touchdowns. They're up 637 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 6: fourteen to eleven late in the fourth quarter. Also, Maryland 638 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 6: as a seventeen to nothing lead against the Villanova They 639 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 6: just wrapped up the first quarter in to start the 640 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 6: second quarter. 641 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 7: Indiana ten, Charlotte six. 642 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 6: As we're looking at that first window of college football games. 643 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 7: That are playing out in front of us. 644 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 6: And lastly, guys, in the world of college football, Utah 645 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 6: quarterback Cam Rising reportedly viewed as a game time decision 646 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 6: today against Oklahoma. That is a battle of two teams 647 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 6: inside the top twenty in the nation, and there's an 648 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 6: injury to his strong hands and so they're not going 649 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 6: to make a determination. Plaque and Dan until game time 650 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 6: to see what he can do. But as I worked 651 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 6: the microphone back to you, this is a Cam Rising 652 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 6: that I feel like Dan has been a quarterback since 653 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: the day I was born. 654 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 7: I think this is year. 655 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 6: Seven for him, and I think he does have another 656 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: year if he wants to come back. 657 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: H yeah, it is year seven, It absolutely is. He 658 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: has been there forever. I think he's played in like 659 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: three different conferences for Utah. You know, it's been he's 660 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: been there that long. 661 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 5: It's been it's it's tricky to even say Utah on 662 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 5: the Big twelve now, But a big Big twelve showdown 663 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 5: with Oklahoma State coming up. Game you'll see on Fox 664 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 5: four o'clock Easter time later today. Thanks Brian, appreciate it. 665 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 5: He is Plexico Buris. I'm Dan Byer. This is up 666 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 5: on Game Plexic Plaxic. Plax and I can't agree on 667 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 5: one thing. We both hate Michigan. The similarities start to 668 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 5: veer after that. We'll discuss next. He's Paxico Buris. I'm 669 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 5: Dan Byer. This is up on Game on Fox Sports Radio. 670 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: It's up on Game on Saturday, September twenty first, He's 671 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 5: Plexico Burris. I'm Dan Byer in for LaVar Arrington and TJ. 672 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 5: Hushman Zada. Also a Big Day, Plax because it's our 673 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 5: technical producer Chris Purfett's birthday. Happy Birthday, Chris perfects alright, 674 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 5: it's not only the twenty first of September where you're 675 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 5: gonna hear Earthwood and Fire all day, but Chris's birthday today. 676 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 5: Sharing it with the likes of Bill Murray, Alfonso Robero, 677 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 5: Liam Gallagher, Stephen King, Jason Derulo. Yeah, the list goes 678 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 5: on and on. Put Chris Purfett in that role, Call if. 679 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 7: You will and I get the Earth Winding Fire song. 680 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 681 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 7: Absolutely can't ask for anything better. 682 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 5: Oh Man, good stuff. Glad to be with you guys today. 683 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 2: Plaques. 684 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: I know you don't know a ton about me, but 685 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 5: I'll fill you in this way. I've been an Ohio 686 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 5: State football fan since I was about seven or eight 687 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 5: years old, okay, mid nineteen eighties, all the way through, 688 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 5: and things weren't necessarily great. And I have always said, 689 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 5: people will say, what's your worst loss in your career, 690 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 5: It's got to be. 691 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: A Michigan loss, just like you. 692 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 5: I hate the Michigan Wolverines with everything in my all 693 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 5: fibers of my being. But the loss that actually stings 694 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 5: the most wasn't a close loss to Michigan and nineteen 695 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 5: ninety six or any of the games that we've had 696 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 5: in the in the ninetiars or maybe the past three 697 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 5: years that Ohio States had. It was in nineteen ninety 698 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 5: eight when your Michigan State spartans you, Nick Saban, went 699 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 5: to Columbus rallied from I think you scored eighteen unanswered 700 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 5: something like that, some crazy number and go and beat 701 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 5: the buck Eyes twenty eight, twenty four and what I 702 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 5: thought was Ohio State's best team. I'll still argue that 703 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 5: they made their best team since I've been a fan, 704 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 5: but that upset is one that I still think about 705 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 5: to this day. How your Spartans went into the shoe 706 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 5: with knocked off the buck Eyes. What do you remember 707 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 5: from that November afternoon twenty six years ago. 708 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 4: What a beautiful day, What a beautiful day for Spartan lands. 709 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: I remember getting back. 710 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 4: To the airport and all the fans were at the 711 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 4: airport and we went into this game. You know, nobody 712 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 4: expected us to go and go and the win. And 713 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 4: Julian Peterson started his first game, I think out of 714 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: junior college. 715 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 2: That game, he had one of those games. 716 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 4: It was like four sacks, strip fumble or covered from me, 717 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 4: two batted balls. In the era of Julian Peterson was created. 718 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 2: And they had the number one secondary in the country. 719 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: They had Gary Barry Moore, they had Antoine Winfield. 720 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: So we went into this game. I went into the 721 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: game taking it very personal. 722 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 4: I was saying to myself, listen, I know that Antoine 723 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: Winfield is one of the most physical gifted corners en 724 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: college football. 725 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: But I just thought he was too small for me. 726 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 4: And in the first quarter of that game, I believe 727 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 4: I had four catches for like one hundred and four 728 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 4: yards in a first quarter. Right, I said, well, they 729 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: got a problem because Antonine Winfle can't cover me. And 730 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 4: then so they started doubling and we got the ground 731 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 4: game going with Cedric Irving. He scores in the fourth 732 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 4: quarter and we was getting stops and rinaldo' hill sealed 733 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 4: it with that interception. I believe on David Boston a 734 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 4: great defense, great car by Nick Saban. 735 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: What a day. Yeah, joj remain through the interception. He 736 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: was looking for d Miller. 737 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 5: That's actually who it was. I still remember it to 738 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,479 Speaker 5: this day. Fourth and ten from the fifteen. I'm glad 739 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 5: we could be friends now, but that day we weren't. 740 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 5: And you got the best of the buck eyes. He's 741 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 5: Plexico Burrus. I'm dan byer Eli Manning a Hall of Famer. 742 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 5: But when plus college football, that's next