1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: If it's the birthday of Edwin Hawkins. He didn't write 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: the song, though it began as a hymn written way 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: back in the mid eighteenth century by English clergyman Philip Doddridge, 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: based on the verse Acts eight thirty five. The line 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: originally was oh happy day that fixed my choice. It 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: was set to a seventeen four melody by J. A. Freilinghausen. 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: By the mid nineteenth century, it had been given a 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: new melody by Edward F. Rimbaul, who also added a chorus, 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: and was commonly used for baptismal or confirmation ceremonies. Edwin 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Hawkins changed the time signature from three four to four 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: four times, and his new arrangement contains only the repeated 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Rimball refrain, with all of the original verses being omitted. 13 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Hawkins rearranged the hymn to give it more of a 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: gospel feel and devised a piano introduction, which he said 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: was influenced by the music of Sergio Mendez. When the 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: choir made the famous recording that we use here on 17 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: the show in nineteen sixty seven, lead singer Dorothy Morrison 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: added some lyrical improvisations influenced by James Brown, which she 19 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: said made the song feel even more current. Hawkins arrangement 20 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: quickly became a standard and has been recorded by hundreds 21 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: of artists. It was included on THEAA Songs of the 22 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: Centuries list, and it won Edwin Hawkins a Grammy Award 23 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: for Best Soul Gospel Performance. In nineteen seventy, it made 24 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: it all the way up to number four on the 25 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Billboard Hot one hundred a gospel song, making it into 26 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: a secular chart is something, but making it all the 27 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: way up to number four, it's a mazing. It wasn't 28 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: just popular here in America, it was wildly popular around 29 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: the world. George Harrison has said the song was a 30 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: primary inspiration in the writing of his nineteen seventy single 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: My Sweet Lord. It's an amazing song and the perfect 32 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: way to kick off our fridays, and that's why we 33 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: do it. Regrounds me and hopefully it recenters you as well. 34 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm thinking to act like a band director. 35 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: All right, by lift they hounds up today. Get your 36 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: instrument ready, Okay, I pull it up time. Make sure 37 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: you're not chop a flat today? 38 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: How you pinocostal preacher? 39 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: Tell you rarin things when you come on here and 40 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: do your things. Shoot all chudgen that don't start on time? 41 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: I got some fun. I believe you would not the 42 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: turn on time bot some chicken wag. I believe you 43 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: come the turn time by some chicken way. Complete this 44 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: from sea fee time on the video crime, but the 45 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: night don't got it right on time? Somebody mount to 46 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: tore y'all path to a servant, some city ware, Chicken 47 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: Chicken way, Chicken where heaven you come to church on time? 48 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: It was some chicken way. 49 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Let me tell you this service time. 50 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: The crime will have been margin without you. It served on. 51 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: Sun some chicken way. 52 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: Michael Barry Show continues. 53 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: Just check in with our emails, shall we? 54 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: Uh? 55 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: By the way, it just seems to be some level 56 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: of disagreement or lack of understanding. I do not respond 57 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: to every email. I do read them all. When you 58 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: do understand that just adding the time to respond to them, 59 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: I'd never get to them. Steven writes, the I R 60 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: S does not need guns to confiscate our money. They 61 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: need guns to confiscate guns. They will freeze our bank accounts, 62 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: demand our guns, and then raid us when we don't comply. 63 00:04:53,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: You know, whenever, whenever your account is seized, it's a 64 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: very very powerful tool. The State of Texas comptroller decided 65 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: that we hadn't paid enough in taxes, and the person 66 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: who's running the RCC for me at the time when 67 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: the letters were coming in from the comptroller, was just 68 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: putting the letters in the file cabinet and not telling anybody. 69 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: So I wasn't aware as the owner and the comptroller 70 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: froze our account. But they do this and a lot 71 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: of people have had this happen to them. They do 72 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: this on Friday morning. You know what happens on Friday, 73 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: that's today. You pay your staff, that's today the paychecks 74 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: come in. So guess what happens? Maximum misery. So I 75 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: go into the account to check on things as I 76 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: do every day, and I'm trying to do a payment 77 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: and it showed that the account is frozen. So I 78 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: called my bank, Hey, what's going on? Is there something 79 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: wrong with the account the comptroller issued in order to 80 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: freeze your account. Well, I got fifty five people that 81 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: just got their paychecks or getting them this morning. Those 82 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: paychecks will not clear. These people have rent to pay. Yeah, 83 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: this is why they do it this way. Well, so 84 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: I had to run and open a new account at 85 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: a different bank, immediately call my payment processor, my payroll company, 86 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: and say, hold on, don't draw down on those paychecks 87 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: because the comptroller has frozen our accounts. I got it 88 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 1: all done by whatever time I managed to get it done, 89 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: and I had everybody on hold. I had the manager 90 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: call on every part, Hey, don't deposit your paycheck, it 91 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: won't clear. And so you know, I couldn't do any 92 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: untill I got off the air at eleven. So I 93 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: got it all done by maybe two o'clock in the afternoon, 94 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: and I got it solved. But I thought it was 95 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: a really crappy thing in the Texas Comptroller to do, 96 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: because it doesn't just hurt me, it hurt my employees. Right, 97 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: So in time we argued and there was some money owed. 98 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: Full disclosure. You know, when you own a business and 99 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you're not there all day, every day, paying every check 100 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: and reading every message that comes in, every piece of 101 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: mail that comes in, you run the risk that somebody 102 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: can do you wrong. It happens, and when it does happen, 103 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: and you're a public figure, that's me. Your name's on 104 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: the line. So I am always in a situation where 105 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: I have to go above and beyond what the average 106 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: person would do, because my reputation matters more to me 107 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: than the thousands of dollars they want. And by the way, 108 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: I still pay the comptroller every month. I will for 109 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: years because somebody that worked for me didn't handle what 110 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: they were supposed to handle, and she well, and here 111 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: we are, and every month I pay sixty two hundred 112 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars to the comptroller out of my personal account, 113 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: long after the club is closed. So yeah, I'm a 114 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: little bitter about that, Yes, I am so. In any case, 115 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: what made me think of that? Ramon? Why was I 116 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: talking about that? I did not catch you stealing anyway, 117 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: Robert writes Zar on tonight's show. While you were speaking 118 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: of Rushdie's assailant, I was surprised that you didn't mention 119 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: that his surname matar m ata r is Spanish for 120 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: to kill. Interesting. No, I mean, I guess it, It didn't. 121 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: It didn't cross my mind, Zar. Thank god, someone finally 122 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that these new taxpayer funded programs are 123 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: nothing more than Democrat campaign slush funds. Here's another thought 124 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: for you to ponder. Why are most of the immigrants 125 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: streaming over the border, young single men. Well, these men 126 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: can enter the US military service as foreign nationals and 127 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: apply for citizenship after one year, after which time they 128 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: can bring in their families. So if you wonder will 129 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: an American soldier fire upon a US civilian, they won't 130 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: be American soldiers in the traditional sense. After proving their 131 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: loyalty to their home country by picking up stakes and 132 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: beating feet, they've proven they're not the kind of soldier 133 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: we need in our volunteer force. But I fear their 134 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: purpose here will have nothing to do with our security. 135 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Zar, State and Rights. 136 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: Zar. 137 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: I've been listening since twenty sixteen, but this is the 138 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: first time reaching out to you. I'm an outside sales 139 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: representative for Gulf Coast Papers, so I have plenty of 140 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: windshield time to listen and enjoy. Anyway, what prompted me 141 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: to send this message was the call you got from 142 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Larry on Friday regarding school lunches. It's not very often 143 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: that you hear the name Molten, so my interest was piqued. 144 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I graduated from Molton High School in two thousand and eight. 145 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: By the time I left, the lunches had changed, but 146 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: in our early days we had some of the same 147 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: old check ladies cooking for us that he described. Some 148 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: of my favorites were the homemade hot rolls served with 149 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: baked ham. When the ladies were baking those in the morning, 150 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: you could smell them all over our little town. On 151 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Pizza Day, kids brought pockets full of change in anticipation 152 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: of getting an extra slice for afternoon break, and you 153 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: were eating high on the hog if you got a 154 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: middle piece no crust. The dessert that will make every 155 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: Molten kid's mouth instantly water is the thought of the 156 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: homemade donuts. Yep, you read it right. Although baked chicken 157 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: Day was not a favorite, it was well known that 158 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: you would be getting a hot, fresh golden brown doughnut 159 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: served to you for dessert at ten cents apiece. For 160 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: every additional donut. Pockets were jingling. In that lunch line 161 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned you knew where Molten was located. First time 162 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: I ever heard you referred to it was several years 163 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: ago during an interview with Jeff Wagner regarding a certain 164 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: trans am in the RCC. Side note, Jeff's mother, Dolora, 165 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: was one of the ladies that worked in our high 166 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: school cafeteria for many many years. I know she was 167 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: there during my entire thirteen year tenure. Point of the story. 168 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: You may remember that Donald Jeff's father has your Transam. 169 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: This is my smoking the band at Transam in Moulton. 170 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: In fact, it's not uncommon to see mister and missus 171 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: Wagner cruising through town in it. The last time I 172 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: saw it was about a month ago at the Molton 173 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Jamboree car show. Attached to this email or screenshots of 174 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: the car on display and mister Wagner receiving his trophy. 175 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: He won a trophy with my damn car. It's always 176 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: fun to walk up and say, Michael's car sure does 177 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: look good. I'll wrap this up by saying, keep doing 178 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: what you're doing. We all appreciate it. God bless you. 179 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: Stayton Julufka, Gulf Coast Paper, Imperial Dade, Texas. Remember the 180 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: story behind that ramon. I needed to raise money for 181 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: the RCC because we had a band, a big band 182 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: like a j John'son'm going to get to come in. 183 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: So I did a raffle and it was supposed to 184 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: be one hundred dollars a raffle, and I was going 185 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: to try to raise twenty five thousand dollars with the car, 186 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: and then I was going to use that to subsidize 187 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: the show because I wanted to have this big show. Well, 188 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: it didn't get promoted internally, and it turns out that 189 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: there were only about a thousand dollars where the ticket sold, 190 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: and one guy bought three or four and he won 191 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: the damn thing. So when he won it, I heard 192 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: they weren't using it, and I called him and I said, hey, 193 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: I hear you all got how about I give you 194 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: ten thousand for the car and you give it back 195 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: to me. You only got three hundred in it, three 196 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: hundred dollars in it, And they said, oh no, we 197 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: love the car. When my boys found out that I 198 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of halfway gave that car away, they were so bummed. 199 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the award here. The whole family won 200 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: an award for second place with the seventy seven Trens. 201 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: If that's my car, dang it. For the moment, I 202 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: want my car back. He's about a dime. 203 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: There's more to like on Facebook, like the Michael Berry Show. 204 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: Jeff on the Black Line that says he smokes barbecue 205 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: with pairwood and you got my interest. Jeff. 206 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, I've talked to you a couple of times 207 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: before I probably started using that stuff in nineteen ninety 208 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: eight Pearwood when I Pairwood, Sir, Where would he get 209 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: in Pearwood? I was in Medford, Oregon at the time. 210 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: Any dfr d oh yeah, man, yea. And of course 211 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: if you google the Mail Tribune, it'll pull up the 212 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: story Texas Pit Stop Barbecue, and it'll show you a 213 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: picture of myself and my wife Rose at that time. 214 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: But we couldn't get hit. 215 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Is she not your wife anymore? 216 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: No? We divorced back in twenty ten. 217 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: How come? 218 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: Uh, well she came to me one day. Uh in 219 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: the midst of that restaurant. Say one of us got 220 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: to go, Jeff. The restaurant of me is a lot 221 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: of work, Mike, A lot of work. And uh on. 222 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: Texas pit Stop Barbecue. Uh is still again? Yeah, but 223 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: it's still on the sea wall. That's not you. 224 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no, Medford Ore again, Medford, ore again, m 225 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: d F Yeah. 226 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Where it is? Okay? 227 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, no no Medford e d F O r. 228 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: D Jeff ring your neck, I know how it's showing 229 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: up is it. 230 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: Texas Texas pit Stop Barbecue? What's your last main street Williams. 231 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: Jeff, And what what was the article? What was the 232 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: article entitled. 233 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: About Texas pit Stop Barbecue? Myself and my wife? I 234 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: don't recall. I don't recall. Yeah, I've got a copy 235 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: of it at home somewhere stowed away, but I haven't 236 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: read it. 237 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Couldn't You couldn't get mesquite, which was what you wanted. 238 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, that's the trick, Mike. We 239 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: couldn't get hickory. Oh well, you could get mesquite and 240 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: you couldn't get pekan. But if you recall, Harry and 241 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: David's is in Medford, Yeah, they're in Medford and Ashland, Oregon. 242 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: And of course there are there are pair orchards. 243 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: That's why they always put pairs in all their packages. 244 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely all that. 245 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: I had no idea they're hiring the cats ass. I 246 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: like their stuff, but mine, guess. 247 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had they had pear wood to throw away 248 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: up there. 249 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: Explain something everything that Harry and David does. They always 250 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: have a pair in there, and they use pairs. Yet 251 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: that's because there's sir. 252 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: The orchids are all over the place up there. So 253 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: a guy came to me one day and who knew 254 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: me one of my name you said, well, Jeff, why 255 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: don't you try fruit wood? And I said, because I 256 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: don't know nothing about fruit wood. He said, well, we 257 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: got lots of it. Why don't you try it? And 258 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: I ended up my pairing it with mesquite. There was 259 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: lots of mesquite there that I could get. And I 260 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: tell you what, because the guy at the Grange co 261 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: op told me, he said, you don't want to go 262 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: with black oak. They had a lot of that up there. 263 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: He said, it's a cidity. It has a lot of 264 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: acid in it, and you don't want that in your meat. 265 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: So I listened to those guys and they talked to 266 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: me about almond wood and something else. But the sam 267 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: that's in pear and applewood will will bleed right into 268 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: your meat as you cook it. That sweetness of that 269 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: sam and and and the mesquite provided the heat and 270 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: the and the pair provided the flavor. And I was 271 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: blown away. I was blown away, Yes, I was blown 272 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: away by it. The customers couldn't figure out what the 273 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: hell I was doing to that meat, so they pear, no, sir, huh, no, sir. 274 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: They were burning it into chimneys because they had so 275 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: much of it, and and of course a lot folks 276 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: in the valley up there, uh still had chimneys. That's 277 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: what they were using it for. But no one was 278 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: really cooking with it. 279 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, talking about that sap. Jeff, the Indian head 280 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: firewood guy, came over last night and he brought me 281 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: some different things to try and we would put it 282 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: on and then him and my my buddy Ray and 283 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: I we'd kind of just go through and make our 284 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: notes on how this burned and what it smelled like 285 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: and on it. And it brought me some of what 286 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: they call fat wood. And it's this Okay, it's a pine, 287 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: but it has real thick in sap, and I sap 288 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: smells so good. I can't imagine what that pair. I'm 289 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: wishing I could smell some of that right now. 290 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: Again, next time you cook up something. And I don't 291 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: know if that's your thing or not, I've heard you 292 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: talk about it a lot of times. But if you 293 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: throw some fruit wood on apple, well, you know, applewood's 294 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: become popular with bacon and stuff like that, but it's 295 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: that flavor. It'll put a sweetness in there along with 296 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: whatever kind of rub you're gonna rub down with it. 297 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: But like I say, it's not that hot of a wood, 298 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: and you need heat. If you got a firewood pit, 299 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: it's not gonna provide enough heat to get you to 300 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: tempt to cook a lot of meat like I had 301 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: to cook. The mesquite did that. The mosquite took care 302 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: of that problem for me. But that pair flavored it up, 303 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: so you need to give it a try. I just 304 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: happened to tune in and I was backing up to 305 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: the dock here and just happened to tune in. When 306 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: you said somebody's got a pear wood store. I said, 307 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: he must be talking to me. 308 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: Delivers to the Walgreens. 309 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: That's me. That's me. I'm originally from Houston. Yeah, and 310 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: we moved up to We moved up to Medford, and uh, 311 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: there wasn't much work. And my wife talked to me. 312 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: She said, I saw you staring at that barbecue that 313 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: that barbecue pit day after day and finally, Uh, I 314 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: cooked up some We had a big garden and and 315 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: some folks stopped by, and uh, we were pretty much 316 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: giving away the vegetan. We had such a large garden 317 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: and uh and you know, you. 318 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Had to be the only black people in Medford. 319 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: Just about Mike. Just about my sister. And she wasn't 320 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: my blood sister, but she was like a sister. She 321 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: moved there after her uh break up, and we went 322 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: to check on her. I was driving. 323 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: White people call a sister because they're close to her, 324 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: but she's not actually their blood sister, our friend. She's 325 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: your friend, Jeff, that's what that means. She's not your sister. 326 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: She's not your sister, my sister. Oh no, no, she's 327 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: not my sister. Friend. He's so crazy, well done. 328 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: So this is the Michael Berry Show. 329 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: You've all heard of the reference to the slippery slope, right. 330 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I was reading a report yesterday in a medical journal 331 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: that said that cigarettes are a gateway to more powerful drugs, 332 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: and it's not. There are lots of there's been lots 333 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: of study of this over the years. But one of 334 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: the reasons they find that to be the case. I'm sorry, 335 00:20:53,119 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: not cigarettes, marijuana is that it opens up receptor to addiction. Now, 336 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't believe that marijuana should be illegal. You're free 337 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: to disagree with me. You're free to think I'm a 338 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: horrible person. That's fine. And you're free to think. Well, 339 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: the only thinks that because he's a user. I'm not 340 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: a user. I have tried it, but it didn't do 341 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: anything for me. I do like bourbon and wine and beer. 342 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: And there was a time that the same mindset was 343 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: in effect with that we had prohibition in this country, 344 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: might I remind you, And it did not end well. 345 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: In fact, our government, this same United States government during prohibition, 346 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: one of their ways to get people to stop drinking, 347 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: which they couldn't seem to be able to do, was 348 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: they sent out poisoned alcohol so that when people would 349 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: consume the alcohol, they would die. And that was supposed 350 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: to spread fear in the land that I don't want 351 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: to drink that alcohol or I'll die. But it didn't work. 352 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: But the government murdered people for their purposes. Wow, was 353 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: that a precursor That should have been our wake up 354 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: call to stop trusting a government. And that was one 355 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: hundred years ago. The only thing that came out of 356 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: that prohibition was NASCAR. The mafia was more powerful than ever. 357 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: You see, when people want something bad enough, they'll go 358 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: underground to get it. You can't just say, can't just 359 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: by legislative FIAT say, not going to happen. But I 360 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: have to ask you, you know, when we talk about 361 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: the slippery slopes of arguments, if I were to ask you, 362 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: let's take the pandemic, what more could our government have 363 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: done to punish us? What more tyranny could they have 364 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: visited upon us than they did? If we started with 365 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: them doing nothing? How far from there to the worst 366 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: thing you can imagine did we get? In Australia they 367 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: locked people into prisons. In China, they literally fastened the 368 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: doors closed. You could not escape. Can you imagine how 369 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: claustrophobic you had to feel. Can you imagine how mad 370 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: you would have to go in that rubber room. That's 371 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: a torture palace. That's awful. Our government may not have 372 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: gone that far, but they went pretty damn far. Do 373 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: you remember the moms that were out in the park 374 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: because they lived in tiny apartments and their kids were 375 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: stir crazy and the moms needed a moment, These kids 376 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: needed some fresh air, and they took them out and 377 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: they arrested them in front of their children, mothers and 378 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: fathers in front of their children. You wouldn't believe that 379 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: would happen in this country, but it did. Go look 380 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: up the Tuskegee syphilis study. It's a wonder black people 381 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: trust the government to this day. Go look at what 382 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: they did to black people so they could study syphilis, 383 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: treating them like mice, like animals. How quickly people have 384 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: forgotten what our government has done where our government has lied. 385 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: Was fdr In any way aware ahead of time or 386 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: more of Pearl Harbor? I don't know, but I'll tell 387 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: you the people who said that he was and allowed 388 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: it to happen, because that inspired the action that inspired 389 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: us to get into the war, that dragged us into 390 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: the war. This idea of provoking a clash, a shooting, 391 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: a riot, a murder, this is not new. You remember 392 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: the little white punk in South Carolina that went into 393 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: a prayer group and as the members of the church 394 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: were holding his hand and to pray over him, he 395 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: pulls out his gun and shoots all of them. Do 396 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: you remember why he did it? He wanted to incite 397 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: a race riot. The blacks would be so angry over 398 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: this that they'd start killing white people. So if you 399 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: were the devil, what would you do that's not currently 400 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: being done? I send it to the Great Paul. 401 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: Harvey if I were the devil. If I were the devil, 402 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: if I were the Prince of darkness, I'd want to 403 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: indulp the whole world in darkness, and i'd have a 404 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: third of its real estate and four fifths of its population. 405 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be happy until I have seized the 406 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: ripest apple on the tree the So I'd set about, 407 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 3: however necessary to take over the United States. I'd subport 408 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: the churches first. I'd begin with a campaign of whispers. 409 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to 410 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: you as I whispered to Eve, do as you please. 411 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: To the young, I would whisper that the Bible is 412 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: a myth. I would convince them that man created God 413 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 3: instead of the other way around. I would confide that 414 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: what's bad is good, and what's good is square, and 415 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: the old I would teach to pray after me our father, 416 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: which aren't in Washington. And then I'd get organized. I'd 417 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: educate authors in how to make the lorid literature exciting, 418 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: so that anything else would appear dull and noninteresting. I'd 419 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: threatened TV with dirtier movies, and vice versa. I peddle 420 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: narcotics to whom I could, I'd sell alcohol to ladies 421 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: and gentlemen of distinction. I tranquilize the rest with pills. 422 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 3: If I were the Devil, I'd soon have families at 423 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations 424 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: at war with themselves until each in its turn was consumed, 425 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: and with promises of higher ratings. I'd have mesmerizing media 426 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: fanning the flames. If I were the Devil, I would 427 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect the discipline emotions, 428 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: just let those run wild until before you knew it. 429 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 3: You'd have to have drug snipping dogs and metal detectors 430 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: at every school house door. Within a decade, i'd have 431 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: prisons overflowing. I'd have judges promoting pornography. Soon I could 432 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and 433 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: then from the houses of Congress and in his own churches. 434 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science. I 435 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls 436 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: and church money. If I were the Devil, I'd make 437 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of 438 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: Christmas a bottle. If I were the devil, I'd take 439 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: from those who have and give to those who wanted, 440 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. What 441 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 3: will you do? I couldn't get whole states to promote 442 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: gambling as the way to get rich. 443 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: I would caution. 444 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: Against extremes in hard work, in patriotism, in moral conduct. 445 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: I would convince the young that marriage is old fashioned, 446 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: that swinging is more fun, that what you see on 447 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 3: TV is the way to be. And thus I could 448 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: undress you in public, and I could lure you into 449 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: bed with diseases for which there is no cure. In 450 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: other words, if I were the devil, I'd just keep 451 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: right on doing what he's doing.