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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, welcome to the show. Hope everyone gets off

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Speaker 1: to a great start in their Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: If you're working, so are we.

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Speaker 1: We're here and it's a joy to have you with

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Speaker 1: us tonight, and a very special pleasure to have Chris

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Speaker 1: Clark on the program, who played for the Texans from

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen through seventeen, then came back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get it to his journey. But it's really

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff about the O line, how it applies to

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Speaker 1: what's happening today, and a bunch of other stuff. Let's

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Speaker 1: get right to it our conversation with Texans Legends community

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Speaker 1: member Chris Clark.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you having me, guys, appreciate it well. Tell us

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Speaker 2: you walk into the building.

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Speaker 1: I know you do Legends appearances as part of the

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Speaker 1: Legends community, and it's great to see out and about

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Speaker 1: with some of the other guys at the events and everything.

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Speaker 1: What's it like for you to walk in the building

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 3: I wish I could play again.

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Speaker 4: He y'all have it. It looks so nice. I mean,

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Speaker 4: every nook and cranny of the building. Man, it's a

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Speaker 4: player's dream. It's designed in a way where you want

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Speaker 4: to be here longer. You know, you want to go

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Speaker 4: in the cafeteria, eat, you like, stay long, you want

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Speaker 4: to go in the training room and get proper work

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Speaker 4: desirable for any NFL player that wants to prolong their career.

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Speaker 3: Playing.

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Speaker 2: Chris, as you're going through your career and you talked

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Speaker 2: about playing.

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Speaker 5: Sundays are awesome, I mean playing from the crowd, I

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Speaker 5: mean Monday Night's, Sundays whatever, they're awesome. But the prep

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Speaker 5: so hard to get through for a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: where they're just like, man, I'm just done, Like I

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Speaker 5: love Sundays, but man, Monday through Saturday those are pretty tough.

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Speaker 5: I don't know I can go through that is that

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Speaker 5: I can go play again, but I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Go through the whole week of practice and all that nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Sundays Sundays are fun.

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Speaker 4: You enjoy that there's no stress because the stress, you know,

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Speaker 4: it hits you during the week right when it's hot

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Speaker 4: and it's it's like, dude, it's so hot ouse, I

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Speaker 4: that's the grind going ones versus ones. Right when I

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Speaker 4: Merciless like that was the grind for me. So I

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Speaker 4: you feel like if it was just Sundays, you have

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Speaker 4: a lot of guys playing fifteen years that can play twenty,

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Speaker 4: it would be like a bron Jay's trying to trying

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Speaker 4: to keep going, man. But yeah, that that week up

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Speaker 1: Chris Clark joining US former Texans offensive lineman, So you

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Speaker 1: got it too the league in eight as an undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agent. So the Texans have some of those you

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Speaker 1: can identify with what they're going through. What was that

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Speaker 1: like for you with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at the time,

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Speaker 1: because you didn't join the Texans until twenty fifteen through

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Speaker 1: you managed to carve out quite the career really as

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Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, very impressive.

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Speaker 2: What was that initial time like for you in this league?

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Speaker 3: It was it was rough. For me.

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Speaker 4: It was rough only because I was my hardest critic.

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Speaker 4: I was my hardest critic, and my mom always told me,

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Speaker 4: you know, judge yourself the hardest. Don't let someone else

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Speaker 4: man being undrafted, you know, getting calls on draft day

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Speaker 4: I had, you know, good expectations that I was going

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Speaker 4: I felt like I wasn't good enough, even when I

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Speaker 4: So I tell guys now when I talk to them, Hey,

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Speaker 4: make sure right you know why you're doing this. Make

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Speaker 4: sure that you're in this right for the right reasons,

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Speaker 4: because if you lose sight of that, you know why

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Speaker 4: how good you are, all pro whatever. Soon as that

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Speaker 4: you disrespect the game a little bit, that's it.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Chris Famously And I don't know if you ever

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Speaker 5: watched Hard Knocks in twenty fifteen, but one of the

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Speaker 5: he's making the trade, basically consummating the trade to bring

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you have your thoughts on that, but also

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Speaker 5: just your initial thoughts when you come here to Houston

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Speaker 5: was not the greatest team, but it was a team

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Speaker 5: But your thoughts about that moment seeing on a hard

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Speaker 2: A sense in the NFL, and then coming to Houston

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Speaker 3: What was that like? So it was cool, man.

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Speaker 4: So honestly, I didn't know I was being traded, but

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Speaker 4: it happened a week after we played you guys, right,

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Speaker 4: we played the Texans right in Denver, and you got

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Speaker 4: We threw in acept and I chased the guy down

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Speaker 4: It was like eighty yards. I forgot what the guy

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Speaker 3: But you know, that's why I ended up getting traded.

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Speaker 4: And Bill O'Brien wanted me when he saw, you know,

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Speaker 3: You had no quit in you. You were a leader.

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, when I when I first got here,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, so, how that's gonna work with d Wayne?

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Speaker 4: Right originally from New Orleans, and you know, I've played

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Speaker 3: And I would have almost twenty people at every game.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was truly amazing tickets from all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I lost money during the week, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: buying all those tickets up, but it was worth there

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Speaker 1: We'll get into why you settled into Houston. But playing

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Speaker 1: left tackle and right tackle, you've done both. And we

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Speaker 1: I guess, but they were playing him at left during

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll play left or not, or

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Speaker 1: Playing different positions on the old line, and how hard

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Speaker 4: Absolutely And for my guys that do know about it,

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Speaker 4: they know that it's super hard. It is not the

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Speaker 4: same thing. Yeah, you literally have to use different muscles.

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Speaker 4: Your strength and dominant hand is the other side now, So.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's a lot, right.

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Speaker 4: It's imagine if you you play, you play tennis right

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Speaker 4: but you have to train that left hand the same way.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it would be really tough.

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Speaker 4: You can still go out there and play because you

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Speaker 4: can move, but it would be a lot harder, right,

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Speaker 4: So I kind of it's kind of just like that,

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Speaker 4: a stickler about wanting to get better at that position.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I only know that because being undrafted.

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Speaker 4: You never know. If you're not drafted for that position,

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Speaker 4: you might as well, say you play everything because wherever

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Speaker 4: you need it, you have to go in and perform.

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Speaker 5: Oh, guard center, sixth linemen as a tight end, gotta

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Speaker 5: do it all. There's no question. Okay, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 5: you back to something to bear with me for this.

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Speaker 5: So twenty fourteen, we go up to Denver for joint practices.

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Speaker 5: Things get kind of heated in one on once there's

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Speaker 5: for the Broncos that were kind.

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Speaker 2: Of getting into it a little bit. Yeah, the next.

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Speaker 5: with you and JJ Watt and fourteen? Those joint practices,

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Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden, you guys got to be teammates.

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Speaker 2: Now your offense defense.

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Speaker 1: So if I produced JJ Watt right now, and I'm

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Speaker 5: Chris got after it that day.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be good, you know. I mean, like that's

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Speaker 5: There were there wasn't There weren't a lot of people

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Speaker 5: And then we're seeing it all like play out on

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Speaker 5: we knew. Guys were hurting me like now he's trade

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Speaker 2: So like there're gonna be guys that do hold grudges.

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Speaker 5: For the greatest of all time, Michael Jordan holds probably

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Speaker 4: So, man, is one of those things, man, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it's all good.

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Speaker 1: So Chris Clark with us by the way, Texans Legends

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Speaker 1: lot to get to with you offensive line. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this many times on this program, the togetherness you need,

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Speaker 4: What are you to have good offensive linemen? I'm be

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Speaker 4: That's what made me pretty good, right. I played defensive

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Speaker 3: Aggressive guys.

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Speaker 4: But in order to be successful at offensive line, I

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Speaker 4: But you got to have the proper people in the

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Speaker 3: I loved him. We got along good.

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Speaker 4: That was one of the reasons they brought me back

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Speaker 4: They brought me because they said, you can bring the

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Speaker 4: He started showing up at old line dinners and all

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you, and it's only because

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Speaker 3: And that's pretty much.

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Speaker 4: You'll see him flourish, right, which will be good for

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Speaker 4: as well. Let me put that out there, right, He's

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Speaker 4: We're training to win the last game, right, the last

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Speaker 3: So knowing, like I.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the left guard and the left tackle.

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Speaker 4: What's going on, Let's talk And if your leadership is

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Speaker 2: So it's just one of those things. And that's the

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Speaker 4: And right naw, I'm coaching little kids and I'm teaching

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like I told you, I had some some things.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that we talked about a lot

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Speaker 5: of people have talked about and I've heard this a lot,

439
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Speaker 5: and maybe it's semantics, but I'm going somewhere with this,

440
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Speaker 5: But everybody says, you know, the offensive line last year

441
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Speaker 5: was are very good? Now you trade larning me tunsel?

442
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 5: How is that line gonna get better? And I constantly

443
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,719
Speaker 5: said to people like you take larning me Tunsseel off

444
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Speaker 5: an offensive line, you're gonna be less talented.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 5: You take that guy off of any offensive line, you're

447
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 5: less talented. But making the other moves and the other

448
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Speaker 5: guys that now have to go in place, maybe the

449
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Speaker 5: chemistry gets better, or that you become a better overall

450
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Speaker 5: offensive line. Where it's not talented but not working together.

451
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Speaker 5: Maybe it's a little less talented but works way better together,

452
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Speaker 5: you have a better offensive line. What do you think

453
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Speaker 5: about kind of that approach that yeah, you got talent,

454
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Speaker 5: but it's not working together. But now maybe a little

455
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Speaker 5: less talent, but if they work together, they can be

456
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Speaker 5: really good.

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Speaker 4: Lare me Tons, I'm much start there. He great guy,

458
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Speaker 4: hard to replace. That's not the goal for the move

459
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Speaker 4: that was made. It's about building a relationship, like you say,

460
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Speaker 4: building chemistry, and you're absolutely right about, you know, losing

461
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Speaker 4: that guy and gaining something else.

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Speaker 3: Larry me I kind.

463
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Speaker 4: Of put him in a case in the same slot

464
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Speaker 4: as a Trent Williams or Dwayne Brown, right, meaning they

465
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Speaker 4: come to work, they're going to do their job. And

466
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Speaker 4: that's it, right, get out of my way, let me

467
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Speaker 4: handle the guy in front of me, and you'll be

468
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Speaker 4: excited with the results that we get at the end

469
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Speaker 4: of the day.

470
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Speaker 3: And they handle that. They do that right now in return.

471
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Speaker 4: Some people might see that as being selfish or but

472
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Speaker 4: the job is so hard. He's going to win his

473
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Speaker 4: individual matchup a lot. There's some guys you put next

474
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Speaker 4: to a guy like that can't flourish because he needs

475
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Speaker 4: another guy to help them. On every line, on each side,

476
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Speaker 4: there's a bus driver and there's a passenger. Right, you're

477
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Speaker 4: putting passengers next to Laramie Tunsul And what that does

478
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Speaker 4: is they can't they don't know where they're going, Right

479
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Speaker 4: am I making sense here?

480
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Speaker 3: They don't know where they're going.

481
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Speaker 4: So what you have to be you have to put

482
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Speaker 4: another bus driver next to him. So that's why you

483
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Speaker 4: saw when Titus came over the playguard. You saw that

484
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Speaker 4: side flourish, right you very Titus knows what he has

485
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Speaker 4: going on, how he needs to play this guy. But

486
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Speaker 4: when you put a younger guy next to a guy,

487
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Speaker 4: he needs that that connect with his bus driver, if

488
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Speaker 4: that makes sense, He needs that guy to tell him

489
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Speaker 4: what's going on, what do you see? That's what I

490
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Speaker 4: was good at, right, I wasn't larring me tunsel. But

491
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Speaker 4: what made me good my communication skills. You I was

492
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Speaker 4: almost a center playing left tackle.

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Speaker 1: And well, I just wanted to throw this at you

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Speaker 1: in addition to what you're saying, because Dwayne said this

495
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Speaker 1: to us a long time ago that it took him

496
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Speaker 1: about three years to start figuring it out. Figuring things out?

497
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Speaker 1: Is that what you find with offensive linemen. It's that hard.

498
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Speaker 1: It's harder than people think. I just blocked the guy

499
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Speaker 1: in front of you. Come on, just push.

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Speaker 2: Him out of the way. It's that hard.

501
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Speaker 4: So it's it's hard, but it was more difficult for Dwayne.

502
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Speaker 4: He was a threat when he came in, being a

503
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Speaker 4: first round draft pick. There were already guys here lined

504
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Speaker 4: up playing tackle. So when he came in, no one

505
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: wanted to help him. No one wanted to teach him anything.

506
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Speaker 4: So he had to come in on the fly, learn

507
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Speaker 4: how to study guys on your own, learn how to

508
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Speaker 4: watch film on your own.

509
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it took him three years to get that.

510
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Speaker 4: But what that did was it hardened him to guys

511
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Speaker 4: that came after him. This is how I got it,

512
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Speaker 4: and this is how you have.

513
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Speaker 3: To get it.

514
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Speaker 4: Learn it for yourself, all right, versus me, I had

515
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Speaker 4: to came in a different way, made me a team guy,

516
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Speaker 4: you know. So it's just one of those things. And

517
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Speaker 4: some guys never realize until it's too late, right you're

518
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Speaker 4: going you retired like dang, I could have done more,

519
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Speaker 4: you know, And yeah, man, so that's why it was

520
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Speaker 4: hard for him.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's truly hard to lock down a position. Chris.

522
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Speaker 5: You talked about difference in playing left tackle right tackle,

523
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Speaker 5: significant difference.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Titus.

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Speaker 5: So what Titus gets brought up and people are talking

526
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Speaker 5: about Titus, Well, does he play right tackle?

527
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Speaker 2: Does he play left guard? It feels like those are

528
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Speaker 2: completely different.

529
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Speaker 5: Planets, like being you're on the right side versus now

530
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Speaker 5: you're on the left side. Now you're not playing tackle,

531
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Speaker 5: now you're playing guard. Even if left tackle, I'm sorry,

532
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Speaker 5: left tackle to left guard. What is Titus going through

533
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Speaker 5: the transition if he does indeed stay at guard of

534
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Speaker 5: going from tackle to guard.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think you played guard in.

536
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Speaker 5: Your career if I did it in Minnesota, Okay, what's

537
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Speaker 5: that difference?

538
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Speaker 3: Like it's a lot of difference.

539
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Speaker 4: It's like it's like playing in that phone booth, right,

540
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Speaker 4: and he's a guy that can handle it.

541
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Speaker 2: You think it's better for him to stay at guard

542
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Speaker 2: going forward.

543
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Speaker 4: Titus is an athlete and we can put him wherever,

544
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Speaker 4: wherever we want to. He can manage, right. He has

545
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: great feet to be such a big guy. And I

546
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Speaker 4: mean we've seen him at tackle isolated doing this thing,

547
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Speaker 4: and we've seen him in the phone booth. I think

548
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Speaker 4: it goes down to preference and where is needed. We've

549
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Speaker 4: paid you to be our guy, and as our guy,

550
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Speaker 4: we need you.

551
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Speaker 3: Here, and he's going to do it. You know.

552
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Speaker 4: It's just one of those things, right. He's a team guy,

553
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Speaker 4: Like I said, he's not a me guy. He's a

554
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Speaker 4: team guy. So you can build an offensive a great

555
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Speaker 4: offensive line with a guy that's willing to do with

556
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Speaker 4: the ex covin.

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Speaker 1: Former Texans offensive lineman Chris Clark will continue the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Get into it about Peyton Manning. Chris was with him

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Speaker 1: in Denver during Manning's first trip to the Super Bowl

560
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Speaker 1: in the Mile High City, and a whole bunch of

561
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Speaker 1: other stuff on the old line and old line play

562
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Speaker 1: in general, and your Texans. It's all coming up. I'm

563
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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Back to it on the show here, Mark

564
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Speaker 1: VanderMeer and John Harris, Chris Clark in studio with us

565
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Speaker 1: this week Outstanding visiting the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Let's

566
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Speaker 1: get back to the conversation. All right, So you're in

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Speaker 1: Denver with Peyton Manning. What's that like? What's it like

568
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Speaker 1: to be in the huddle with Manning? Manning at the

569
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, all the omaha stuff, all of that.

570
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Speaker 2: What was it like with Manning?

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Speaker 5: Oh, listen, Mark just wants you to say it was miserable.

572
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Speaker 2: That's what Mark wants. Now, this will get edited out

573
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Speaker 2: if you go it was great.

574
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Chris, So to be honest with you.

575
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Speaker 4: More people being peyton left tackle, right, I ended up

576
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Speaker 4: having to be Peyton's left tackle. Brian Clayty ended up

577
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Speaker 4: going down against a second game of the year Jason

578
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Speaker 4: Pierre Paul, and so I had to finish.

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Speaker 3: And that was the year we went to the Super Bowl.

580
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: Right, So I had more people putting pressure on me

581
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Speaker 4: than I put on myself. I like I told you

582
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Speaker 4: from the beginning, my career was successful because I would

583
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Speaker 4: always be my hardest critic, and being in a room

584
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Speaker 4: with Peyton, I knew I was not going to let

585
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Speaker 4: the be the guy to let the team down, and

586
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 4: let Peyton down, knowing he coming off next surgery right

587
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Speaker 4: from Indy.

588
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Speaker 2: Right, if he get hit one time, oh the season's over.

589
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Speaker 4: That's how I felt being his left tackle, and put

590
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Speaker 4: I put the team on my back because I felt

591
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Speaker 4: like he can't get touched. And it was one of

592
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Speaker 4: those things. He was a general man. He was a

593
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Speaker 4: general and he demanded perfection because we'll have a scripted

594
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Speaker 4: out walkthrough, right, maybe twenty plays, right, every team does

595
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: a scripted walkthrough, and out of those twenty fifteen to

596
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: twenty plays, we might get through two in an hour.

597
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: And it was literally because he wanted to know every

598
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: single scenario if this happened. Okay, now, let's say the

599
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: running back come down and he goes in motion. You

600
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: know who we're looking at here, right, And he's not

601
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: just asking the offensive coordinator, but he's asking He'll be

602
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: the guy running the meeting, right, and he will ask

603
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Speaker 4: certain scenarios because he wanted dp protect it, right, So

604
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: he had to his everybody's awareness had to be heightened

605
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: like his. So we knew quarterback assignments, being running backs, linemen,

606
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Speaker 4: tight ends. We knew who the hot I was a

607
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: left tackle and I knew who the hot guy was, right.

608
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Speaker 3: We were on.

609
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: One accord at all times.

610
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 4: So man, having that to I had never been around

611
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 4: that type of leadership.

612
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Speaker 3: So that guy was truly.

613
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: Amazing man and hands down, first battle Hall of fame.

614
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Speaker 3: Everything that he got he deserves. Yes, Chris.

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Speaker 5: One of the things when I'm going through doing my

616
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 5: draft reports, I look a lot of times for offensive

617
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Speaker 5: line in particular, and there's certain things you look for

618
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 5: and you know what they are. One of the things

619
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Speaker 5: I look for offensive line, especially interier guys. How much

620
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Speaker 5: did they wrestle? I love basketball playing. I remember Max Starks,

621
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Speaker 5: who I coached against in high school, way way way back.

622
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 5: He was a great basketball player. What did you what

623
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Speaker 5: other sports did you play other than football? And how

624
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: did they make you a better football player? He chose football,

625
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: But did you play other sports? And how did those

626
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 5: other sports impact you as the athlete and the football

627
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: player you became?

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Speaker 4: So me, I hated football just to realiz yeah, I

629
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: hated it. I didn't find football.

630
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Speaker 3: For new Orleans.

631
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: Did you hated football? I was a big basketball player.

632
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: I love basketball. That's that's all I wanted to do.

633
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: My older brothers were doing it. This is just what

634
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: we were about. But I kept getting bigger, I kept getting,

635
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: you know, taller. It was like man, And then I looked.

636
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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I'm six five, but six five

637
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: is almost like point guards, point guards and shooting guards.

638
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: You know.

639
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: It's like, nah, I can't be a big man at

640
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 4: six y five, right, So you know, I was just

641
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: a freakish athlete, so it kind of transferred over to that.

642
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: I feel like you have to be really good at

643
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: basketball if you want to be a good lineman, right,

644
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: if you want to be an athletic linean, especially defense right,

645
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: because the some of the skills and drills go hand

646
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Speaker 4: in hand to what defenders are doing, defensive ends are doing,

647
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: or as a tackle going against a defensive end. I

648
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: need to know those moves. My body needs to have

649
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: similar right quirkiness.

650
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: Right.

651
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like basketball is one of those things.

652
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: And if you're a skill guy, I feel like track.

653
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: I feel like track is one of those things for

654
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: skill positions you have to do not you want not

655
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Speaker 4: not that you need, you have to do it. It's

656
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Speaker 4: one of those things that you know to teach you

657
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: how to get to top notch speed and and a

658
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 4: dB getting that makeup speed right if he makes a

659
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: bad read or something like that, or get his eyes

660
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: caught in the backfield. That makeup speed is what the

661
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: track comes in at. So same as a receiver or

662
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: running back right, your breakaway speed. All of that matters

663
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: to coaches, and track is where you get it from.

664
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: Okay, So at what point did you have that epiphany? Okay,

665
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: in football, when did you have that epiphany?

666
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: I had that, like I said, when I started being

667
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: when I was when I joined the football t my

668
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: sophomore year. I just started playing organized football and sophomore

669
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: year in high school, right.

670
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: No parkball, know any of that.

671
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: And when I got out there and I was doing basket,

672
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: I was playing defensive end and to get past the lineman,

673
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: I was doing basketball moves, and I'm like, that's not

674
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: too bad, so yeah, man, And then one game I

675
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: went in and I got four sacks in one game

676
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 4: against you know, the scrambling quarterback who was doing everything

677
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: missed everything in New Orleans.

678
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: So I did pretty good against him, and I was like,

679
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 3: you know what that was? This?

680
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much woken, you know, awaiting something to me

681
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: that I didn't know I had.

682
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: I know how football coaches think. I could imagine when

683
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 5: you were freshman in high school, you couldn't walk down

684
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 5: the hallway for thirty seconds without football coach saying, hey, hey,

685
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 5: football practice, come on out, football practice. I would imagine

686
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 5: that happened to you daily when you.

687
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: Were a freshman.

688
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 4: It did, And it was tough because my older brother

689
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: was two years older than me when I was a freshman.

690
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: He was a junior. He was the star of the team.

691
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: So and I was bigger than him at that time. Wow,

692
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: So coaches were pissed that I wasn't playing, and like

693
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: he's in the gym every day and I just wanted

694
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: to play basketball.

695
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: So my brother didn't. Kids like he's just a basketball player.

696
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: And you know by that, my brother ended up convincing

697
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: me and I went out there, man and shoot end

698
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: up here.

699
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: How good was it to play with your brother in

700
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: high school?

701
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: Looking back, it was amazing, man, to be on the

702
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: field with him.

703
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: Man, we still talk about it to this day, Like

704
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: we grew up close right and I'm making sure my boys.

705
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: I have three boys on my own that they grew

706
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: up and they help each other out right, always cheering

707
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: each other on. And but yeah, I definitely think it was.

708
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: It was amazing being able to play with my siblings

709
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: and play against him. I played against him as well.

710
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he ended up going his senior year.

711
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: He ended up going to another school that was more local, right,

712
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: that was known for getting scholarships and stuff like that.

713
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: So he went to a different school and I ended

714
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: up being my sophomore year, ended up playing against him.

715
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: And yeah, he kicked my.

716
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

717
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: He made sure I was little brother, and everybody knew it.

718
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 4: So we talk about that as well. Man, I tell

719
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: people I wasn't the best in my family at all.

720
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't even the best athlete in my family. But

721
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: I had that determination and will to will myself to

722
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: being great.

723
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: Well, and that's you got to think, and you just

724
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: advertised it. I mean, that's the most important thing, right

725
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: as an athlete, as any kind of talented human being

726
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: in any field, right, it's putting your put the work

727
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: together to be successful. You were in this league for

728
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: over a decade. Chris Clark with US, and you're thirty

729
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: nine now, so you're young. You're a young man still,

730
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: but you're in the league for over a decade. That's

731
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: a heck of a career. What would your message be

732
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: to young players? Johnny and I are young players. What

733
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: are you going to say to the young exactly?

734
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: Look as a kicker or a holder, you're gonna have

735
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: to do this.

736
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 4: I would definitely tell you, guys to save your money.

737
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: Right.

738
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 4: I always looked at the NFL as an expensive temp service.

739
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: Right.

740
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: You make a lot of money, but you don't know

741
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: how long it's going to last.

742
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: You're a temp.

743
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: I love this. I love this. That is the perfect

744
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: way of putting it as perfectly. You don't you don't

745
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: know how long it's going to be.

746
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: Some people use that not for long right acronym, But

747
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: for me, man, I just know nothing's promising. Just like

748
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 4: it was given, it could be taken away. So in return,

749
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: I yo, guys, save your money. What are you spending

750
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: it for? You're going to retire. I retired at thirty five.

751
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: How many people can say they're going to retire at

752
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: thirty five?

753
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 3: Not many?

754
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: Right, So you have to have a plan in place

755
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: before you exit.

756
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: Right to know what you're going to get into.

757
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: Me. I had a family, right. I was able to

758
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: dive into my family and what I had going on.

759
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: I had missed so much playing twelve years. I was

760
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: able to dive into my daily fatherhood and that helped

761
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: me so much. And you know, I had different invested

762
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 4: in certain things and businesses. So I had a lot

763
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: of things going on before I retired. So when I

764
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 4: did retire, I didn't have to go through this dry

765
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: phase most players go through over seventy percent six eighty

766
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: percent go through because when we're playing.

767
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: Football, we're football players and that's it.

768
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: We have other things going, but all of that's on

769
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: a back burner, you know, so you have to I

770
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: love the fact there are more programs, the NFLPA and

771
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: everybody they're putting out and helping players get in touch.

772
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: I know players on different teams they're doing acting gigs

773
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: before the season start, and you know that is going

774
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: to help them getting to possibly broadcasting or you know,

775
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: coaching or what acting, whatever they want to do. So

776
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: I encourage them and I push them to do more.

777
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: Get out of your comfort zone of just playing football,

778
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: and you're gonna be okay.

779
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 5: So right now, Chris, what are you doing? What do

780
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 5: you want to do? You got a long life to live,

781
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 5: But what is it that you want to do?

782
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: What do you want to accomplish going forward?

783
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: For me, man, it's just about you know, being present, right,

784
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: being exactly where my feet off. That's my main thing

785
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: and right now for that is with my boys. Like

786
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: I said, I have a twelve, a ten, and a

787
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 4: six year old boy. You know, I pray for one boy.

788
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: Guy gave me three, So you know, every day I

789
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: don't take it for granted. It's one of those things.

790
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: So I am present, you know, and I kind of

791
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: grew up without my father. We're cool now, right, lives

792
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: in Houston, so we're good and we rekindled our relationship.

793
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: But you know, I was single, single mom, right, and uh,

794
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: it was tough for me. No one came to games,

795
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: no one came to college games.

796
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: It was a lot. I did it all on my own, honestly.

797
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: So I made it a vow to be there for

798
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: my boys in a way that I wish I had

799
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: that support. So between that and my wife has a

800
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: great business. She's doing home staging for realatiors. So like

801
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: interior decorating and stuff like that. So I help out

802
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: with that, you know when I can, and but doing

803
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: that and you know, coaching my boys, that's my main thing, right.

804
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: So because I was smart about my money, y'all might

805
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 4: laugh at me, but I drive the same truck I

806
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: had when I first joined NFL.

807
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: I don't happen to how many miles are on this

808
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty Yeah wait, the NFL. It's not

809
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: it's not.

810
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: But it wasn't my first purchase. That's that's the thing, right.

811
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: I had a car and I just was I kept

812
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: that and my first purchase was this truck.

813
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: It was like two years later something in twenty ten.

814
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got I remember when b Matt got here.

815
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: Remember when you got that big truck and then had it.

816
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 5: It was like all chromed out and big number.

817
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: We stayed in the.

818
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: Same neighborhood, so when he would pull out, I was like, bro,

819
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: you gotta it was too Like looking in the mirror,

820
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, man, there's no laughing about that

821
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: that part of it.

822
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: But like you having the same like that's like respect.

823
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 5: I mean, because everybody how I get to do car,

824
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 5: especially I would imagine the guys you're around place like man.

825
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: You wouldn't get rid of that away to that old truck.

826
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: But I keep it.

827
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: It's so nice, right, it's a it's an escalade, it's

828
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: the the avalanche version of the escalade, right, And I

829
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: keep that and I keep it clean, and I might

830
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: get it wrapped or you know, just certain things and

831
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: I keep it nice right for me, right, the interior is.

832
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: Done all on the inside. So you know, it's one

833
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: of those things for me. Not my wife.

834
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: She loves every new gadget comes. She might switch, she

835
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 4: might switch guards every year. So but but for me, man,

836
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: that's just that's home for me, and it keeps me grounded,

837
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: you know. And I don't know, I just let I

838
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: just let people know that my job never defined who

839
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 4: I was, right, Football never defined me. I was much

840
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: more still, much more than just the NFL player.

841
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: So I don't value that stuff.

842
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: And you're a New Orleans guy when you're a Houston guy.

843
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: So what's what's the pitch for Houston? Advertised Houston? For me,

844
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: the Texans are just Houston. Houston.

845
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: Okay, Houston is a great city. I think it's a

846
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: melting a great melting pot. You know, you get the

847
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 4: best of every culture here. New Orleans is not that

848
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: it has its own culture, but Houston. I love it

849
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: because you can get a little bit of this and

850
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 4: a little bit of that flavor from different countries.

851
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: As far as the nightlife.

852
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 4: You get a whole bunch of different, uh cultures as well. Right,

853
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: So everyone comes here, everyone wants a piece of Houston.

854
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: Whether it's entertainers, but it's sporting events, comedian shows, it's

855
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: it's so much Houston brains man, and I love it,

856
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: you know, especially with Galveston being close.

857
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: That's our little version of the.

858
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: Water, you know. So yeah, yeah, we get it done.

859
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: We get it done, and it's growing so fast. I

860
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: hate it. It's like everybody got the secret, right. Everybody know, Hey,

861
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 4: come on to Houston, man, you you you know, the

862
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: living is pretty good. So I love it. I love

863
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: what we all. My boys love Houston. And opportunity is

864
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: at a high right now.

865
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: Right.

866
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: So that's that's one thing. Houston has really grown on me.

867
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: And I'm not going back.

868
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: I've got one part Jamiko Ryans because I know you

869
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: know him. I mean obviously you know him, but you

870
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: didn't play with him, and you didn't play under him

871
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: when he was coaching, but you guys ran into each

872
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: other as former players. Tell us what you can about

873
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: that and your thoughts on him now as the head

874
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: coach of this team.

875
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: So quick story.

876
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 4: Retired, right, the Migo's retired, and we kind of liveing.

877
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: We live in the same neighborhood, and uh so there's.

878
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 4: A local soccer right, we're gonna get our kids involved

879
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 4: in and U we have my middle son and I

880
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 4: think his oldest are the same age, and uh they

881
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: were playing soccer together.

882
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 3: So we just pulled up.

883
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: Didn't know each other at the time, and we were

884
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: just talking about ball.

885
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: I knew he was, he knew who I was, and

886
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 2: it was before he went to San Francisco.

887
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he was telling me, yeah, man, I'm thinking about,

888
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: you know, going up there.

889
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if I want to do it.

890
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 4: But his mentor was up there, right, So he ended

891
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: up going up there to help his mentor out. Not

892
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: sure who that was, but you know, he went my

893
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: backer coach, gotcha, So he went.

894
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: Up there to help him out and do his thing.

895
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 4: And you know, once you bit by that bug man,

896
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: he was a cool I played against the Migo in

897
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 4: college right when he was in Alabama, you know, and

898
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: he was that guy, like he was the guy that

899
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 4: just knew the play before we made the place, Like, dude,

900
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 4: were you in our huddle?

901
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: You know?

902
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: He just knew where the ball was going. He was fast,

903
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 4: he was electric, and he was a leader on the field.

904
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 4: He talked more than our quarterback, you know what I'm saying.

905
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, he's a great guy. So when all

906
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: of this happened, and our wives they have mutual friends

907
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: and they became close.

908
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, it definitely works out.

909
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: Man, and me being a part of this Texans community

910
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 4: and him being here has been amazing.

911
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: So I love everything that they're doing here.

912
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: That's Chris Clark, Texans offensive lineman from twenty fifteen through

913
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen as well. So two stints

914
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: with Houston and a final segment with the Texans Legend

915
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: next here on Texans All Access. Final segment as we

916
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: get to our last questions with Chris Clark, Texans Legends

917
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: community member, former offensive lineman twenty fifteen through twenty seventeen

918
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: and also the twenty nineteen season.

919
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: A lot of great stuff in this show.

920
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: If you missed some of it, go back to the

921
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: podcast on Spotify wherever you get your podcasts, or the

922
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: Texans app as well.

923
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: Well.

924
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Final thoughts here in our visit in the Hyundai Texans

925
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: radio studio with Chris Clark.

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00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: You're slim down from your playing way.

927
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean it look great. It as looked like a

928
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: former NBA player.

929
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: That's what I'll tell everybody.

930
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: You love basketball, so this works for you.

931
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: But you're like one of these lines in like Wade

932
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: Smith or Steve McKinney from the early days or guys

933
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: that are really slim down that played on the old line.

934
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: So tell us what that took for you to make

935
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: it happen.

936
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: So when I retired, I had a lot of things

937
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: going body was beat up, you know, like I said,

938
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: just after twelve years, right, that's a lone career playing

939
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: left and right. So I had torn both laborms in

940
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: my hips and everything was My hips were just like

941
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: bone on bone. So I was struggle getting up in

942
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: the morning and doing things. I'm three hundred plus pounds and.

943
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: It was it was just tough.

944
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: But I still had the work ethic that I had

945
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: as a player, right, So went to the doctor I'm

946
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: going through these things with the NFL, trying to figure out.

947
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: I can badly walk and it's hard to get up

948
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: in the morning. I go to the doctor. He said, hey,

949
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: you need double hip surgery. He said, but I'm not

950
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: You're too young for I'm thirty five. He said, you're

951
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: too young for that. He said, I'm not doing surgery

952
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: on you. Lose weight, and I said, all right, So

953
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 4: I went and I hit it. I hit it hard

954
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: as if you know, I was still playing. I didn't

955
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: do anything extra. I just worked out the way I

956
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: worked out when I was playing. But I was eating less, right.

957
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 4: I started eating more fish, more seafood, more things off

958
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: the ground that's supposed to go on your body, not

959
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 4: the chips and you know, the bad carbs, so that

960
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 4: I didn't do a whole lot extra. I just I

961
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: had more of a seafood based diet. And when it

962
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: came you know, meats or whatever. And sure enough, man

963
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: doing that and I started losing weight. And I worked

964
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: out in the peak of the day when the sun

965
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: was out. I made sure so not only was I

966
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: burning calories from working out, the sun was burning me

967
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: as well. And I mean, once I got it, going in.

968
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: About three weeks.

969
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 4: It took about three weeks start seeing, you know, like

970
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: the weight to scale the move right after that, it

971
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: was I was losing almost five three to five pounds

972
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 4: a day a day the day, and it was just

973
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: it was sliding off me. My body was just getting

974
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: rid of anything bad that I put in. I started

975
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: eating clean and once I saw it roll and I

976
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 4: got down to two twenty, and I scared myself. Yeah,

977
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: I scared myself. You know, I had the big head.

978
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: You know, you get the people you see people.

979
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: With the big head with the small about it.

980
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: I started looking you start looking sick, right, You've seen that.

981
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, this this too much.

982
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: I scared myself. I started eating. So I got back up.

983
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: I'm about two fifty now and I feel great. I

984
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: feel amazing and it has really, really truly helped me.

985
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 4: So that's the best thing I could do. So anybody listening,

986
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: big guys, big girl, doesn't matter. Retired a get out

987
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: there and move your body, lose the weight. I promise

988
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: you all of the health conditions you have will go

989
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 4: away in a minute.

990
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, I got I got one man, all right.

991
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: First of all.

992
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 5: When I was growing up because I have a size

993
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 5: almost size eight ahead, they used to call me a

994
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: hundred wa because I looked like a light bulb. So

995
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 5: I understand that plight. Yeah, you have to come up

996
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: with you play twelve years in the league. Teammates, I

997
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 5: want you starting basketball five.

998
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 3: Oh that's tough.

999
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 2: Wait NFL guys.

1000
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: Of the guys, his teammates in the NFL teammates, I

1001
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 5: want your basketball starting five. You're one of them, of course,

1002
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 5: so you're one of them. You pick your spot, yeah,

1003
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: fill it out. Shooting point guard, shooting guard, small forward,

1004
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 5: power forward, and you're big.

1005
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Okay, my big is going to be me. I'm the five. Okay,

1006
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: you're the five.

1007
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 3: Star would be Dwayne Brown.

1008
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.

1009
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: Wayne was a freak. Yeah he was a freak.

1010
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: He banged around.

1011
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: Yep.

1012
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: My three would be Julius Thomas.

1013
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, okay in Denver for basketball sixth form

1014
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: of basketball in Portland State.

1015
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah he was, he was, Yeah right.

1016
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 4: My two would be uh Tim Tebow Wow, wow, Tim

1017
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: I forgot Man team.

1018
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a who.

1019
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: When got drafted, you got to come back next so

1020
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: this man, people don't really Tim was six three hell,

1021
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: he was a I mean three sixty windmill duncan coast

1022
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: to coast, get the rebound, come down windmill dunk. Yeah,

1023
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: he was that guy between traffic. He was really good,

1024
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: really super explosive, super one leg, two leg dunkin whatever

1025
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: you wanted. And I found all that out doing the lockout, right,

1026
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: doing the lockout. You had to back in twenty ten,

1027
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 4: you had to go do something to to train. So

1028
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: me and Tim was training together every day, and uh,

1029
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: basketball was part of our train Yeah. And your point guard,

1030
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: my point guard. My point guard would be Tracy Porter. Okay,

1031
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 4: Tracy Porter, pig six, Tracy Porter. Uh. He was one

1032
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: of those guys that played basketball as well point guard,

1033
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 4: getting people where they get need to go. So he's

1034
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: still good to this day, right, and I see him,

1035
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 4: you know, you know, just dribbling the ball right, certain things.

1036
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: Like oh you can still you still have us.

1037
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, he was a guy that was really good

1038
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: back in when Denver. I remember him playing with the

1039
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: ball a lot all the time.

1040
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it.

1041
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: So that would be my five man five.

1042
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I chickered five. I did not expect t Bo

1043
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: in that mix at all.

1044
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it with our visit with Chris Clark,

1045
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: Legends community member, former Texans offensive lineman. All the Texan

1046
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: shows from this week, including our great show with Frank

1047
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: Ross on Tuesday, are in podcast for him already. Some

1048
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: of it you can catch on our YouTube page as well.

1049
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: We'll consume all that during the Memorial Day weekend. Have

1050
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: a great weekend as we remember those who paid the

1051
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: ultimate price for our country. We will have a show

1052
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: on Monday, by the way, and a personal note, I'll

1053
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: be up at Margaritaville Saturday night with Billy D.

1054
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: Washington.

1055
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: He's doing a comedy thing and I'm gonna do a

1056
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: guitar thing with some other stuff and we'll see what

1057
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: happens eight o'clock at Margaritaville Saturday night. So looking forward

1058
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: to that, among many other things. Have an outstanding weekend.

1059
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: Go Texans.