WEBVTT - How to Give Away Your Money #024

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're talking about how to give your money away. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's freight to day on the shore. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about why you should give your money away, why it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually beneficial to you, and then how to give your

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<v Speaker 1>money away, choosing where to give and making sure your

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<v Speaker 1>money is actually going to charities that will use it. Well. Yeah, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>And that actually makes me think of a recent comment

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<v Speaker 1>that we had on our site by Sarah, and she

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned how, you know, she liked how we have

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<v Speaker 1>a good balance between living a frugal life but also

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying life and you know, giving money away and being charitable.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of falls on the side of living that

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<v Speaker 1>good life, right, because if we were only about being

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<v Speaker 1>cheap and like living that frugal life, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have money to give away to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>A big part of what we try to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what we strive towards is all aspects of enjoying life,

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<v Speaker 1>and included in that, you know, is giving money away.

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<v Speaker 1>So so if you've listened for a while, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna sound familiar. That's the kind of what we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about every week, right, We try to balance the two.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a new listener and you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wondering why it is that we're talking about giving money

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<v Speaker 1>away when this is a podcast about money and beer, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's why we try to enjoy life, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're also striving to be why stewards of our money

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<v Speaker 1>and and along with that is being frugal. So, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for that comment. Yeah, we really appreciate that. Yeah, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes people ask me like, hey, do I have

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<v Speaker 1>to like beer in order to listen to your podcast? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it would help, but but no, you really don't, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean, I think the majority of the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>we pour a beer on the on each episode, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>is it kind of represents something that we enjoy and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere that we put our money, that we that that

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<v Speaker 1>matters to us. But then on top of that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it represents more than anything, this concept of balance, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and exactly, that's something that means a lot to both

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<v Speaker 1>of us. There are a lot of people out there

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<v Speaker 1>that are trying to retire at age thirty four, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not living a life of balance. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the way to that. And then there are also people

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<v Speaker 1>who are completely out of whack in overspending and they're

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<v Speaker 1>working way too much and they're you know, neglecting things

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<v Speaker 1>that actually matter to them. Hopefully that comes out in

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<v Speaker 1>our episodes. That balance is such a key, uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that we strive for and definitely don't always

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<v Speaker 1>do well. Balances at the heart of kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>core of the mission of what we're up to here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, it's our mission. So Matt onto the beer

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<v Speaker 1>that we are drinking this evening. Oh man, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a loaded, nice pop. So you've got this beer. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Russian River. This beer is called Consecration, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a barrel edge sour beer and Russian River. They're out

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<v Speaker 1>of California, right, that's up there, like kind of near

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<v Speaker 1>wine country, Yeah, exactly. And this beer comes to us

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy of our friend Carl, who runs the website hundred

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<v Speaker 1>days dot com. Uh. He's an awesome writer, he's an

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<v Speaker 1>awesome dude. He absolutely loves good beer, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>was kind enough to send send us this beer, which

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<v Speaker 1>is I think one of both of our all time

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<v Speaker 1>favorite beers. And he's got a lot of wisdom to share.

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<v Speaker 1>The hundred was in regards to he was set a

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<v Speaker 1>goal to be able to be financially independent by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred days later, right from when he started the ball. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the whole that's the whole reason behind

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred days. Yeah, man, this beer was I mean, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've had sours before. I know I had

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<v Speaker 1>a few hours before this, but this was the first

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<v Speaker 1>sort of world class barrel age sour that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>knocked my socks off, you know. Yeah. I distinctly remember

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<v Speaker 1>another friend, because this brewery's out of California, the only

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<v Speaker 1>shipped to a few states. Another West Coast friends sent

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<v Speaker 1>us a bottle. We split it, and I just remember saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if sours can taste like this, I want more, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've had some kind of average to subpar one before that,

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<v Speaker 1>and Consecration from Russian River just kind of took the

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<v Speaker 1>cake and really still does to this day. It's such

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<v Speaker 1>a delicious beer. Yeah man, So this pours, it's pouring

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<v Speaker 1>like a nice kind of murky brown, but it's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bubbles to us, you know, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely gonna have a nice bit of carbonation. Ready

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<v Speaker 1>to taste this, Yep, that's still awesome. Speaking of balance

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<v Speaker 1>that we talked about earlier, this this beer is so

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<v Speaker 1>well balanced. Some of the sours today are getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little crazy, little out there. This just kind of toes

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<v Speaker 1>the line that it's walking perfectly and I so dig

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<v Speaker 1>this beer. Yeah, it's pretty aggressive, nice nice bit of

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<v Speaker 1>tartness to it, but it's barely aged, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just those oak notes just kind of really balance it

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<v Speaker 1>out and kind of smooths it out, makes it real

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<v Speaker 1>easy to drink. It's got some slightly more bitter notes

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<v Speaker 1>to it than maybe some of the sours we've had recently. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like that. Actually, it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rare to find. It's usually super sweet and when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to sour and so that those kind of bitter

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<v Speaker 1>notes balance it out. And it's definitely got rush and river.

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<v Speaker 1>Being based in wine country obviously major access to wine

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<v Speaker 1>barrels and this one's aged in Capernet saweignon barrels and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's got a little bit of that wine quality

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<v Speaker 1>to it as well. Uh, yeah, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, guess what I can feel sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>the tannin sort of dryness, kind of coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the wood a little bit, maybe completely. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>you're into wine not really terribly into beer, a beer

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<v Speaker 1>like this would be kind of a good one to

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<v Speaker 1>check out. And we're actually seeing more and more of

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<v Speaker 1>that beer wine hybrid kind of thing happening. So all

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<v Speaker 1>the lines are getting blared. Man, I know, right, have

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<v Speaker 1>you guys ever been up to a wine country like

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<v Speaker 1>Napa or Sooma? No, never done it. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>like southern Oregon has some wineries and I've that's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done that before, but never like the California wine region.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kit and I went once and we decided, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be over there. We've got to stop in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and like Napa and Sonoma, thinking that we

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't really enjoy it, but no, we we loved it. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We had such a good time. And we're not even

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<v Speaker 1>really into wine, but just seeing the grounds and the vineyards,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being able to like the couple that we

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<v Speaker 1>went to had hiking trails like on the property as well. Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's gorgeous and then you get to cap

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<v Speaker 1>it off with going down into the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>cave or whatever where they where the age all the barrels.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice and cold down there after you've been sweating

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<v Speaker 1>up in the California sun and get to tip back

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<v Speaker 1>some delicious wines. And yeah, we had a great time

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<v Speaker 1>for obvious reasons. I guess there is something about vineyards

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<v Speaker 1>that's just beautiful. It's a little more romantic than than

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<v Speaker 1>just a brewer, right right, Yeah, completely from that point

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<v Speaker 1>of view, I can totally understand why you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, you know, and I think especially getting into

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<v Speaker 1>beers like this, you know, drinking some of those beers

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<v Speaker 1>that have a little more wine like qualities. I can

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<v Speaker 1>completely see why people dig wine, and I can see

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<v Speaker 1>myself someday in the future maybe drinking more wine than

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<v Speaker 1>I do now, but right now focused on beer. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, I mean, if you are out there

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<v Speaker 1>and you're a wine drinker and you know of like

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle of wine that's like in the I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen eighteen dollar bottle, a bottle range that that you

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<v Speaker 1>know as really good and that you could recommend to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>give us a shot. I mean, I would love to know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's a really good bottle that you can get for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sixteen bucks anything of his Kirkland signature. My buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's true. However, I'm sure someone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna write it and say, oh, it's actually not that bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just like the Aldi beer. No, not terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So tip to the folks that do like wine. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a website called Costco Wine blog dot com, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>this dude who dedicates his uh at least free time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about his life, but he dedicates himself

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<v Speaker 1>entire life to writing about and reviewing the Costco wines.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're actually like just the Costco irons, just the

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<v Speaker 1>Costco ones, and there are you know, Costco is actually

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<v Speaker 1>I think the number one buyer and seller of wine

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. Yeah, just like Walmart's the number one

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<v Speaker 1>organic produce. Yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean that bean said, like, certainly Costco

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<v Speaker 1>has got great wines. Though they do from what I've heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certainly not a connoisseur, and and I've I've tried

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of them, and they've they've been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better than two buck Chuck in my opinion. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that blog is really cool if you're into wines

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<v Speaker 1>and want to check it out. And another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Costco is great for, by the way, is getting bottles

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<v Speaker 1>of liquor, oftentimes the Costco liquor. If you're particular Costco

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not a member, Matt, We're going to fix

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<v Speaker 1>that in the near future for you. It's too far away, man,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's my big thing. I just don't like driving,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to hear your excuses close the

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<v Speaker 1>audia is our house. Now, that's true, I know. But

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<v Speaker 1>so the liquor selection at Costco is really really good,

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<v Speaker 1>and the prices are insanely good too, because usually a

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<v Speaker 1>package store marks up a bottle of liquor between thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and so. At Costco, the most mark up that Costco

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<v Speaker 1>ever does is so typically you get a bottle of

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<v Speaker 1>their Kirkland signature liquor for ten dollars cheaper on average

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<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen dollars cheaper than what you'd pay at

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<v Speaker 1>a package store. They also have regular brands of booze

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Stuff. Yeah, and it's cheaper too, like by

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<v Speaker 1>good ten bucks, so you can at least pick me

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<v Speaker 1>up a handler to you know, if you're going up there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see what I can do. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wrote an article it's up on the website now

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<v Speaker 1>about where you should go to get beers when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. Uh and so don't miss that. I also

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned some of our antiquated beer laws in the article,

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<v Speaker 1>So check that out if you're interested on knowing where

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<v Speaker 1>we drink beer in in our town, and if you're visiting,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be sure to hit some of those places up Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Matt onto the topic at hand, how to give

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<v Speaker 1>your money away. And I think ultimately you and I

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<v Speaker 1>both think that there's a lot that we as human

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<v Speaker 1>beings can learn by giving away our time and our money. Yeah. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right for both of us. You know. A big

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<v Speaker 1>part of like some of our core values, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is being generous giving our money away, like in whatever

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<v Speaker 1>sort of outlet that looks like for you. And and

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<v Speaker 1>a big reason we want to talk about this too is,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least for me, the sort of angle

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<v Speaker 1>I want to approach it from is giving your money

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<v Speaker 1>sort of intentionally um and actively right, instead of it

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<v Speaker 1>being sort of this passive thing that you're doing, or

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<v Speaker 1>instead of it being a more like a reactionary thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that being said, I'm not going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you not to like give money to somebody asking for

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<v Speaker 1>a handout or or whatever it is, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>is that someone approaches you. But there's ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>can give that helps you to feel maybe more in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of your money. It's where you're intentionally giving and

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<v Speaker 1>that's more part of your plan and like your mission,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like your financial sort of game plan and

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<v Speaker 1>mission versus it sort of being this thing that is

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<v Speaker 1>more like an afterthought or only if someone approaches you

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, asks for a donation, that kind of thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think too. There's a place that people get caught

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<v Speaker 1>up and they say, you know what, in the future, someday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give my money away, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of these days, you know, once I hit this certain

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<v Speaker 1>point in my life, that's when I'm gonna actually start

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<v Speaker 1>giving away some my money. But I just can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>to do it right now. Uh, And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I ultimately what that what it comes down to is

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like an excuse. I hear the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with a lot with a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>say I want to travel someday, and they never seem

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<v Speaker 1>to prioritize it. They never seemed to buy a ticket

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<v Speaker 1>to go somewhere and visit a really cool place. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's just kind of a common thing. They prioritize

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<v Speaker 1>their money going to other places, and ultimately, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of prioritization. And if you say that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to give some day but can't give in some

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<v Speaker 1>capacity now, then I think, really you're just fooling yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and you're checking yourself because it's something that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do now if you would only prioritize it. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just giving the lip service. Basically, you're doing it to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of make yourself feel a little bit better. And

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<v Speaker 1>and granted maybe you're going through some terrible financial situation

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<v Speaker 1>right now that you know where you just you do

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<v Speaker 1>not have the space you do you don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>bandwidth for that. And for for those people, we are

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<v Speaker 1>not talking to you. But you know, if you've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been if you've got a steady job and you've

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<v Speaker 1>you're living your life and you're enjoying yourself and in

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<v Speaker 1>your drinking craft beer, the good stuff, we're talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know like, and I think too, we this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>something we want to guilt trip you over. But no, no, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not this. Uh. We're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel bad for not giving. But hopefully by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this episode you will have seen how

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<v Speaker 1>it's benefited Matt and I in our lives. It has

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<v Speaker 1>given us a healthy detachment from our money, just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of healthy understanding that money isn't everything and in so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways that our goals right for our money and

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<v Speaker 1>for our lives, are actually better served by giving away

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<v Speaker 1>a portion of our income. And so we'll kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what that looks like in our lives. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest too. You heard the last episode, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>where my wife told a story about where I was

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<v Speaker 1>charging my friends for coal. Still a terrible story that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't live down. But I feel like my heart

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<v Speaker 1>has changed a lot about giving over the years and generosity,

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<v Speaker 1>and so hopefully you can see kind of how I've

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<v Speaker 1>grown and honestly, being married, you know, being married to

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, Emily has accelerated that change in my life

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<v Speaker 1>where I prioritize it and it's been so meaningful to

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<v Speaker 1>me to give away a portion of what we make.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh so, I think in the end, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want a healthy view towards money, learning to give away

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<v Speaker 1>a portion of it, you know, and you can figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what that means to you exactly percentage wise, but

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<v Speaker 1>but learning to give away that portion can actually give

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<v Speaker 1>you a more robust appreciation for what you do have. Yea, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what this reminds me of two is the

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<v Speaker 1>our episode on asking for a discount in a totally

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<v Speaker 1>sort of twisted way. But but we talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>asking for a discount it's sort of like a muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the more you do it, it it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makes you uncomfortable or it's just because it's just hard

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<v Speaker 1>to do, right, um, But the more you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>the easier it becomes. It's a behavioral thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like a muscle. I feel like giving your

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<v Speaker 1>money away. It's it's real similar, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a muscle. It's sort of like this cognitive pathway where

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<v Speaker 1>the more you do it, the better at it you get,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you're sort of able to recognize it and

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<v Speaker 1>see it in your life kind of just as you

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<v Speaker 1>go throughout the day and throughout your life and you

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<v Speaker 1>can respond to that. Yeah, And I think in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, like giving our money away is like

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<v Speaker 1>a recognition of the fact that we aren't completely self

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<v Speaker 1>made people. We are influenced and made up in so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways of the contributions of parents, teachers, are community,

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<v Speaker 1>and the country that we live in. Uh, hard work

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly rutual to success, but being generous is that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of recognition of the benefits that we've received from

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<v Speaker 1>other people that have played major roles in our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and in a sense, it's sort of paying

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<v Speaker 1>it forward, right Like you you're you have that recognition,

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<v Speaker 1>you see that, and then you're also doing that for

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<v Speaker 1>for other people. And whether that be through your finances,

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<v Speaker 1>right through your money directly, or just through your time

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<v Speaker 1>and the attention the knowledge that you're able to share

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<v Speaker 1>with others and kind of pour into other people's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>All that is a part of recognizing all that went

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<v Speaker 1>into you and sort of doing that for others around

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<v Speaker 1>you as well. So obviously, like the number one benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of giving your money away is helping people, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's you trying to better the people around you, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to better the world around you trying to make the

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<v Speaker 1>world a better place. I mean it's obvious, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>if you think of like, Okay, how does how's giving

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<v Speaker 1>my money away you gonna make things better? I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times folks can immediately just only focus on, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how's this going to be good for me? Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the benefits? Like what how's this going to

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<v Speaker 1>affect my bottom line? When that shouldn't be your primary

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<v Speaker 1>goal at all, Like it should be because you see

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<v Speaker 1>a need or you really believe in this effort or

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<v Speaker 1>this cause, and and that's something that you're gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put put your money behind, yeah, because you truly believe it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think ultimately the easiest way to see the

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<v Speaker 1>need and then to see the benefit of where your

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<v Speaker 1>money is going is to give locally, right to give

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<v Speaker 1>to an organization that exists in your neighborhood or in

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<v Speaker 1>your town. And so you know, for for me, there

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<v Speaker 1>are are a couple of organizations that are extremely local

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<v Speaker 1>that I can quantify what they do. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>get the newsletter updates, I run into the people that

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<v Speaker 1>work there. I know what is happening and the sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of success stories that come out of that nonprofit. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really exciting to see something happening in my own neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's helping kids or helping you know, older people

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<v Speaker 1>whose homes are in disrepair and they can't afford the

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<v Speaker 1>repairs on their home. Giving the causes that are local

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<v Speaker 1>where you can kind of see the tangible work is

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<v Speaker 1>to me a really great benefit that you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of watch the progress of your money right before

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes. I mean that makes me actually think this

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<v Speaker 1>article I saw that I read where they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how even though like the total number uh of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>that have been donated has increased over the years, the

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<v Speaker 1>number of people who have been contributing has decreased um

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<v Speaker 1>And like the whole article is talking about like the

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<v Speaker 1>pooling of money to the you know, the rich, and

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<v Speaker 1>how they're kind of deciding where the money goes, and

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<v Speaker 1>how that affects policy, you know, tax policy, just all

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<v Speaker 1>these different things. But what that means though as well,

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<v Speaker 1>is that these nonprofits and sort of charities are marketing

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<v Speaker 1>themselves to people because they're trying to get these big donors,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to appeal to sort of like the

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<v Speaker 1>mass appeal the mass, you know, the whole country, and

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<v Speaker 1>when that's sort of right in front of you as

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<v Speaker 1>as somebody that's looking to give your money away, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the immediate need, like you don't see like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, like the local charity, um, something that is

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of you if you were just to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, literally like open your eyes or ask around

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<v Speaker 1>and see what your local needs are. Yeah, So be

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<v Speaker 1>mindful of that because it definitely is trending to where

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<v Speaker 1>these bigger organizations are sort of siphoning and getting all

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<v Speaker 1>the funding, all the donations, where you know, the smaller

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<v Speaker 1>local organization has kind of been suffering over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few years. Yeah, and so I think a benefit to

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<v Speaker 1>Matt is that giving your money away changes you just

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<v Speaker 1>as much, if not more than the people or organization

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<v Speaker 1>that you're giving to. It's really cool if you give

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<v Speaker 1>to a local organization to see your money at work

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<v Speaker 1>and to maybe see people's lives that are changed. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>like I mentioned, you know, a house and disrepair for

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<v Speaker 1>a senior citizen that is able to stay in their

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<v Speaker 1>home because otherwise they would have had to move, they

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<v Speaker 1>would they wouldn't been able to fix up their house

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<v Speaker 1>or they just have to live in a home with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a messed up roof or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that's tangible and you can see. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean if you were like, you know, just give the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Cross, Like I don't want to knock Red Cross,

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<v Speaker 1>but like they're great. However, it's hard to see the

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<v Speaker 1>efects of that. And so yeah, if you see the

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<v Speaker 1>physical effect that your money is having, how encouraging is that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean that if anything that would just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of give someone, if anything that might encourage someone

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<v Speaker 1>to give more, you know, like when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>effects like that, it just has this positive sort of

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<v Speaker 1>reinforcement that hopefully continues the cycle. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately then it has a great effect on you as

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<v Speaker 1>a human giving your money away. So it's cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see the progress, cool to see your money at work,

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<v Speaker 1>where you live, or for a cause that you care

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<v Speaker 1>about greatly. But then on top of that, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>about living life with more of like an open hand

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<v Speaker 1>where you're not holding onto your possessions too tightly or

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<v Speaker 1>just like gripping your money right and not letting go

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<v Speaker 1>of any of it. There is something that changes, like

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<v Speaker 1>in your heart and in your demeanor almost when you

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<v Speaker 1>are freed up to give. The way that you are

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<v Speaker 1>generous with your money, I think actually translates to a

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<v Speaker 1>generosity of spirit that's almost like a felt quality about

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<v Speaker 1>a person too. Uh so, so giving your money away

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<v Speaker 1>translates into the kind of person that you are in life,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has such a freeing effect on your soul

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<v Speaker 1>by deciding to give away a portion of your assets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to explain, right, like it's this this this

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<v Speaker 1>weird and tangible thing. But I think we've all met

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<v Speaker 1>people in our lives, whether it be at work or

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<v Speaker 1>just anywhere where there's something that's just greedy and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just stingy and they just don't they suck, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's someone that you kind of don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be around. And that's the way you're what you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talking about. It's sort of like that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>put your finger on it, but it's just you can

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<v Speaker 1>just tell that. It's just like, man, why you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be like that with your charcoal? Joel Well, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this thing of like it fabled in books and

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<v Speaker 1>fairy tales, right, I mean, the Grinch and every these

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<v Speaker 1>are screwedge right there these characters that are there no workhouses,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, all they're they're these great stories that

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<v Speaker 1>encompass someone's heart that is hard to the plight of

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<v Speaker 1>their fellow man, and then how how they can change.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think some of those stories actually, while probably

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<v Speaker 1>over exaggerated, do kind of give us a window into

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<v Speaker 1>the human heart where if you do view your money

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<v Speaker 1>and humanity in that way, you know you can change

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<v Speaker 1>and you can go from essentially this mindset of scarcity

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to hold on to every dollar that

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<v Speaker 1>you have, to one of generosity, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have an impact on the world around you. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even more so, maybe your heart or girl

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<v Speaker 1>like five sizes like the grunch too, so and and

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<v Speaker 1>and that will have other benefits that are really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to quantify but but are super important. Yeah, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>certainly see and and sort of the non tangible quality

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.919
<v Speaker 1>of life that you have. Yeah. Yeah, it changes your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also changes your mind. It's got like a

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<v Speaker 1>psychological effect. There have been studies that have shown that

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<v Speaker 1>giving money away leads to essentially like a happiness boost,

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<v Speaker 1>that that giving away your money actually makes you happier.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on top of that, it also oddly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>makes you will richer. There's something psychologically about even if

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<v Speaker 1>we give away like a small portion of what we have,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes us feel like, were like, wow, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>enough money to give to give to this charity or

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<v Speaker 1>that charity, and it actually kind of reinforces the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we are wealthy. And and if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>America and have a job, like compared to the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, you are wealthy. Man, when I found

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<v Speaker 1>super fascinating about So it's specifically like that about the

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<v Speaker 1>happiness boost, right. The reason we buy things is to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of make us happy. Right, Like you buy a

0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:34.480
<v Speaker 1>shirt and because of that shirt, you're happy, at least

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.480
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit, you're happy. Right then, That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it is with a lot of possessions, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we buy. When you give your money away,

0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that also makes you happy, but at a rate much

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<v Speaker 1>higher than where you to just buy this trinket. And

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<v Speaker 1>so in a sort of self serving way, you can

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.199
<v Speaker 1>make yourself happy by giving money away because it's just

0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>more effective. It's like a more efficient way to make

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<v Speaker 1>your heart glad. And we would argue that it makes

0:21:56.000 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 1>you better happy, not sort of this superficial on the

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.480
<v Speaker 1>surface I bought this gadget happy, but this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>deep happy that resonates with humanity and with like your

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:11.480
<v Speaker 1>fellow man, something that's more real than just this thing

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.159
<v Speaker 1>that you bought. And at the same time, you're you're

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>spending less to you because like the amount of money

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that you'd have to spend in order to make yourself

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of happy, you can spend like five

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>times less than that by giving your money away and

0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 1>achieving the same happy by making someone's life better. And

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<v Speaker 1>that crazy. It is crazy. And I'll tell you, I

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<v Speaker 1>see this like in my own self, in my own heart,

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and I see it in like the hearts and lives

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of my kids. So there's something about when you receive

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a gift, I feel like you are thankful for it,

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's always or when you buy something for yourself,

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 1>there's always like a certain level of disappointment. It never

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>seems to kind of hit what you're aiming for, uh.

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And I totally see it in my kids when they

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.760
<v Speaker 1>get gifts. They sometimes end up playing with, you know,

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 1>the box that it came in or classic yeah, or

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.919
<v Speaker 1>discarding it in favor of something that they've had for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. It's not that they're not appreciative, and

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they they say thank you and they enjoy the gift

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>for a while sometimes, But I completely see their hearts

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>being totally different when they give something away or when

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>they help someone else that doesn't have what they have.

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>There there's something long lasting. And it's the same for me.

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>When I buy myself something new that I think I want,

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, it really only satisfies for a small period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and that happiness is like tainted with bits

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of guilt, and it really doesn't have the satisfaction that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to when I, you know, click

0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to buy online. But then when I do serve someone else,

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>when I, you know, spend my time to help a

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>fellow human or actually ride a check to an organization

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in my neighborhood, that means a lot to me. Uh.

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 1>There's something that is a lot more long lasting about

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that happiness, uh than just consuming more so, another way

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that it's a benefit man to your wallet is that

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, contributions and donations to like nonprofits are tax deductible.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a ton about this, I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>because I actually have a c p A. Since I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a small business owner, that's one aspect of the business

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that I've decided to outsource. Can you feel me in then?

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>On like the because you've got the new standard deduction, right, yeah,

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>So essentially the standard deduction for single individuals and for

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>couples was raised, and so there are a lot fewer

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>people that will be itemizing on their taxes. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, right when the tax law got passed, I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to give my contributions to a couple of organizations

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<v Speaker 1>in as opposed to doing it on a monthly basis

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>throughout the next year, just so that I would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to claim a higher deduction on that year's taxes.

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>And so for some people, the way to combat this

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<v Speaker 1>is to give bigger chunks like every other year. Ultimately,

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.159
<v Speaker 1>this is advice to help you on your taxes, but uh,

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>tax strategy, right, yeah, I mean the most important thing

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>is to be giving your money away, But if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it and reap the most tax savings,

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<v Speaker 1>then consider alternating years in which you give. Just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's a part of your budget and that you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it. I know that can kind of almost

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>be another excuse not to give so, so don't let

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>it be that in your life. But if you do

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<v Speaker 1>want to get the most tax benefit from your gifts, yeah,

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>consider doing it like alternating years that you can you know,

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>one year take the standard deduction and then the next

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<v Speaker 1>year exceeded based on essentially a higher gotcha, higher gift level.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha cool man. So that was some of the benefits

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully too. When folks read the title of this

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>podcast or you know, this episode, they weren't immediately like, oh,

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the episode for rich people that are just

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>giving their money away to charities and foundations. This is

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>a philanthropist episode. Uh, And I mean that's definitely not

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the case for you know, for either of us. We do,

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>we know we do intentionally and regularly and actively give

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>our money away, but I don't think the total amount

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>would blow anyone out of the water. Oh really, Joe,

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you know I give away and twenty K last year. Wow. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>for surpasses anything that I can even conceive of. Just

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>kidding um, But I think a lot of folks might

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>be thinking this is all great to hear, but I

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>am totally in debt. We're underwater, we're just scraping by

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 1>living paycheck to paycheck, Like what like, we can't do this,

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like what am I supposed to do? And yeah,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>what would you say to folks uh in that situation? Sure,

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean I definitely understand that. And there are were

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<v Speaker 1>times in my life where you know, rent was super

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<v Speaker 1>high and I was just starting out in radio and

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<v Speaker 1>I was making very little money. Uh, not that you

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>really ever make lots of money in radio, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would tell them to start by donating some of your time. Um,

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>whether it is like your local after school kids club

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and you can tutor somebody, whether it is whether it

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>is volunteering some time at an old folks home in

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>your area and bringing your kids there to play bingo

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 1>and you know, give them some some cheer, or spending time,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, even with a neighbor that is homebound, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. Maybe you're a good cook and you

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>can make a meal that's killer for six dollars for

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>someone in your church that just had a baby. There

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>are so many ways that you can spend your time

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and your talents to help someone out that you know

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>that's in need. And so yeah, I would say start

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>by volunteering your time and maybe a gift that you have.

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>It could be as simple as, you know, mowing someone's lawn. Uh,

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.159
<v Speaker 1>there are lots of ways that you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get started in this and then just make sure that

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a goal that as your income does start to

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>grow and your debts start to decrease, that you would

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>prioritize this and um and make sure that it's on

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the front burner as a topic of conversation and as

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>something that you're aiming for. And sometimes, you know, giving

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>your time might even actually be more difficult, but it

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>can definitely be more meaningful, especially if it's something that

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you kind of have a heart for that you care

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>more about. So on the flip side of that, though, man,

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would even encourage folks to consider even

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're not bringing home hardly anything right, like like

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you're living paycheck to paycheck and literally maybe you're only

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>setting aside like fifty bucks a month, you know, tops

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Instead of thinking, oh, well, I

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>can't even fifty bucks is hardly anything, and I need

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that to start paying off my debt or something like that,

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>consider a percentage. You know, it might be difficult to say, well,

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>five bucks. I mean that's nothing like, like, where is

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that going to get me? If I if I give

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody five bucks, Well, just know that it's it's less

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>about the five dollars that you're setting aside to give

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to an organization, and instead, what you're working on is

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that is building that muscle. Right, Like, so if you're

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>sitting aside five bucks out of your fifty, you know,

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting aside ten percent, and that's a lot of money.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're stocking away five thousand dollars a month,

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like in a couple of years when you're you know,

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>making bank, that's five bucks a month, and that's a

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>big amount of money. Like, that's a lot of money

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're still sticking with the percentage. And so for

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks that maybe are in that situation,

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I would, I mean, I would challenge folks to look

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>at a percentage that makes sense for you. And if

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you're making hardly anything at all, that's gonna seem silly

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>because it's such a small amount, but that should also

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>mean that that's totally doable. And what you're doing then

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>is kind of locking into like a rate. You know,

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>just like we talked about previously about a savings rate

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and trying to up the amount that you set aside

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>for retirement. If you can just stick with a percentage

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and maintain that percentage, then you're gonna be much better,

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, at giving your money away down the road

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>when you've got a lot more of it because you've

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>again you've worked that muscle, and you know you're gonna

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>be a pro. Yeah. Completely, There's something about forming a

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>habit and sticking to it. It's almost like jumping on

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the bike for the first time. I mean, I remember

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>before I bike to work for the first time, I

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>had it all built up in my head, like it

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>was this scary thing that oh man, it's gonna take

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>forever and I'm gonna be all sweaty and it's just

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be worth it and it's gonna be big pain.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>And bike org has been one of the great joys

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>of my life now at this point, and so starting

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>there's something to be said for starting getting it rolling. Yeah,

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>And so build that habit in your life, whether it

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is yeah, two dollars a week, whatever it is, make

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>it something. And I think there too, too, there is

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>something about giving to where it impedes your lifestyle to

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a certain degree. There is something meaningful about that and

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>saying you know what, it's going to cause me to

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>miss out on this, and it makes the giving really

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>meaningful and helps you to understand, you know, how important

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>it is as a priority in your life. Awesome. So

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about now why you should be giving. We've

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about some of the different benefits that occur when

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you do give your money, and so now we're gonna

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about some more practical stuff. Man, how to give,

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>How to actually give your money away. So first of all,

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>find a cause or charity you know, like we just

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>talked about that you really believe in that you can

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of get behind something that resonates with sort of

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>your life goals, you like, your core values. Because when

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you can give your money to an organization like that,

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna find it to be so much more fulfilling, right,

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And so the dollar amount doesn't change age Like, you

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>can give to any old organization and sure they're gonna

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>use your money and it'll be great. Or you can

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>give to somebody that you believe in and that you're behind,

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna affect you as well. Obviously, and that

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>has a big impact on additional giving and the people

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>around you and just the sort of person that you are.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>That's definitely something that you want to consider. Yeah, and

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>also consider giving of your time and yourself. And we

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this a little bit, but actually, Matt, what you said,

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes it's harder to give your time, it's

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>harder to give away bits of yourself in service to

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>other people. But I think sometimes that's one of the

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>absolute best ways to give, coming into contact with people

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 1>that have a need and caring for them with the

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>things that you've been given. That's one of the most

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>beautiful ways that you can give. And sometimes, yeah, the

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>most difficult, especially for people who do have, you know,

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>large amounts of money. It it can be really easy

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to write a check and hard to feel it. And

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>so if you feel like that's the case for you, say,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm giving a lot and ultimately it

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be resonating moving the needle with me, Well,

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>then you're the perfect candidate to spend some time locally

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>with the charity, volunteering to keep the books or meeting

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>with someone who has a specific need, or tutoring the

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>kids right at your local kids club. There are lots

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of places where you know your time could be really useful,

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and that should totally be part of the equation when

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>it comes to how you think about giving. Yeah, and

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>not to make light of of what you just said,

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but you know, like volunteer, your time doesn't have to

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of be this drudgery. It doesn't have to be

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this pain you and I recently volunteered at our local

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>beer festival and it's a ton of fun. I mean,

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>we have a great time because to hang out with

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our friends, meet tons of new people,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and specifically, all the money that the beer fest makes

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>goes into the Neighborhood Foundation, which gives tons and tons

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of money away to local neighborhood organizations that that need funding.

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>They literally make tens of thousands of dollars, you know,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>every year through that beer fest, and our neighborhood has

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>made better because of it, exactly. And so you know,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to mention that too, because it's it

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>can be fun. It doesn't have to be this thing

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>where you feel like you have to like flagellate yourself

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and like okay, I gotta go like earn my you know,

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>earn my time because I'm not donating any money. It's like, well,

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously you can give money, but you can donate of

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>your time and it can be it can be a

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun too, And even if it is something

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that's more work, you know, it's something that may not

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>seem as glamorous. It kind of comes down to how

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you view it yourself and and sort of the value

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that you place on it. Yeah, and a great place

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to start could be asking, like a good friend, hey,

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>where do you volunteer or give your money? Maybe what

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>they partake in will resonate with you. I know that

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>first step can kind of be daunting sometimes, but that

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>might be a good way kind of to get the

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>ball rolling. Find out where people that you care about

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and are close to give their time and their money. However,

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>don't let that be an excuse to not give, right.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would encourage everyone, even if you're hardly

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>not making anything at all, to try to set a

0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>percentage right and hopefully everyone by then of this podcast yes,

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>will be challenged, you know, feel challenged to be giving.

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, if not a dollar amount of way a

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>percentage a percentage of your income because you know that

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>might be a an easier way for you to part

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>with your with your money, Yeah, and be picky about

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the charities you choose. There's a great website called charity

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>navigator dot com and they do an amazing job of

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>helping you understand the transparency and the financial choices of

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the nonprofit before you actually give to them. So, for

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>an example, Yeah, if you look up Habitat for Humanity, uh,

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you can see like the exact percentage of the money

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you give that actually kind of goes towards the work

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to you know, back office and things like that. Uh.

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>And there was I assume it's a lot, and it's

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, they're great, Yeah for good things about habitats. Yeah,

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>I love Habitat and uh. But then there was there

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>were a lot of articles, you know a few years

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>ago about this uh nonprofit called Wounded Warriors, and it

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>was an organization that raised money for veterans that had

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>been disabled or wounded in combat. And it turns out

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of the money that you were giving

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>was actually going towards higher up people in the organization,

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>staying at fancy hotels, you know, eating fancy dinners, going

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to fancy parties things like that, and so just all

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the fancy stuff stuff. Yeah, and so checking that that

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>charity out that you're considering giving to out on a

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.439
<v Speaker 1>website like charity Navigator can kind of really actually help

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you feel good about the transparency level of the organization

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're giving to. And especially in times in the

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>immediate aftermath of a natural disaster like a hurricane, there

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>are all sorts of fake charities that pop up. You'll

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>see Facebook ads are getting email to donate and sometimes

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, one word off in the name of

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>the charity, and so checking them out on a site

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 1>like charity Navigator can help you know too that you're

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>not giving to a scammy organization. Yeah, and you know

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>we're cheap, like we don't. I don't like to pay

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 1>fees when it comes, you know, to someone to manage

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>my money. I don't like to pay more than I

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>need to for pretty much anything. And so when I'm

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>giving my money to a charity, I wanted to be

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing, and you want it to be effective. Yeah,

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be effective giving effective use of those funds,

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and so I want to donate to the Vanguard of

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>charities exactly until like a charity like Habitat pretty much

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>is that. And there are other organizations that very much

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>fall into that vein. But then there are other ones

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>where you know, there's a lot of overheads, a little

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>more expensive and not nearly as much money of yours

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to help the people that are actually in

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>need as you would hope would be edi. That's a

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>good tip. And something else too is to put it

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>in your budget. Right, So, if you're going to start

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>giving your money away, put it in your budget and

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>stick to it. If you're not used to giving, it's

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>probably not going to come natural to you to give

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a portion of your paycheck away every month or every

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>two weeks. So what you need to do then is

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the plan for it. And don't let giving be an

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>excuse to why you're you know, now overspending and blowing

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>your budget. It's now needs to be a part of

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>your budget. And this is also a way that kind

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of eases some guilt. And if you are actively give

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>your money away, right, like, if you have every month

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you know that you're going to set aside, you know,

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>X number of dollars or a percentage of your income

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>to go towards a charity, whether that's predecided or if

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 1>you kind of like to wing it right, if if

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you kind of are waiting for opportunities to come up.

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>This is the perfect way for you to know that

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you are helping people, right, that you are giving money away, um,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 1>while at the same time not feeling like you're being

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>guilted into it. And I'll tell you too from personal experience,

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>like setting a line item for giving money away is

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that it's just fun. The way Kitt and I view

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>our budget is that once we've decided that that's what

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that line item is, like, we almost have to force

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>ourselves to to reach that amount. Right. For some things

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not difficult, right, like going out to eat, we

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>almost always hit that budgeted amount um. But the same

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>thing sort of applies for giving your money away if

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you've decided on a certain dollar amount. So if you've

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>underspent or you know, under gifted that category, if you're

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>getting towards the end of the month, man, you can

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>really look for ways to give that money away, which

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>is kind of crazy, Like that's just sort of this

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>weird position that it kind of puts you in, and

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that should for most folks give you a

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of joy. We found joy in that definitely in

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the past. At this point, we're kind of like always

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>hitting the max. We're all we're like almost always almost

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>going over our budgeted amount. But and obviously you don't

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>have to spend all that if if you're if you've

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>got some left over for that month, just roll that

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>over into next month, because there might be another opportunity

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that that shows up and it might be over your

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>typical amount, and so you know, be wise with your money.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:38.240
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's so important for us, is to actually

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>set a dollar amount that is our goal that we're

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to hit every month to give our money away. Yeah.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I love your approach, Matt. I mean, I love how

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of thinking about putting it into your budget

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and then the fact that your budget ultimately reflects, you know,

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that you care about, the things that that

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>bring you joy, and then being a part of those

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 1>nonprofits you know, where you give your money actually seems

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to in my mind, with that mindset, bring you more joy.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And I personally love getting emails, you know, hearing back

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 1>from people that I know the work for those nonprofits

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>that we give money to, and being involved in them

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and hearing the stories of what's actually happening. There's so

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>much joy that's brought to my life based on, you know,

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the amount of money I'm able to give every month. Uh,

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and then and then hearing what's actually happening with those funds.

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>There's something really cool about that. And if and if

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't budgeted, if it wasn't set, if it wasn't

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>baked into the cake every month of what I'm giving away, Uh,

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>it would be really easy for me to decide, Yeah,

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna give this month, I'm not going to

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>give next month, and and just kind of continue on

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>in the pattern. Um and and so, Yeah, putting it

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>in the budget, you know, has this double effect of

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of ensuring that you actually do it and then

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, reflecting those places that you do prioritize. I mean,

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it's actually becomes like a joyous thing when you do that. Yeah. Well,

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and even like a third prong then too, is that

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it allows you to do those things and to have

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>that joy while at the same time not wrecking your

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>goal your financial goals, right, Like, it's not like this

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>budget buster that just showed up because you didn't plan

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>for it. I think a lot of people will think

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that this feels a little too stiff, if you know,

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.280
<v Speaker 1>to say, oh, you need to set a line item

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>every month, like you must give this amount of money away.

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't feel natural and giving and and

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and from the heart. I mean, our lives are complicated

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 1>in our finances. There's just a lot of moving pieces.

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>And if something were to come along and if you

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that money set aside, well, if you were

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to respond to that, you know, out of the kindness

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 1>of your heart, you know, out of generosity, like from

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a place of of of trueness, then it might blow

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>your budget for that month, you know. And then there's

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>other financial goals that you're not able to achieve that

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, you also want to achieve. It's just kind

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of going into it with a plan and being prepared

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.319
<v Speaker 1>for it too, you know, yeah, completely, And I wanted

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to quickly mention also another how to give is you

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>can give through something called a donor advised funds. So

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that's that'll be more on the philanthropy episode, right Well, yeah,

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean it actually in a lot of ways, it

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 1>is kind of more people with big bucks doing things,

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>but there's actually a lot of benefit that you can

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>get as a small giver as well having a donor

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>advice fund. And so actually the credit card that I

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>think I mentioned that I use all the time in

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.959
<v Speaker 1>using credit cards like a pro is a fidelity credit

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>card that gives me two percent cash back on everything

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I spend. And so over the years, you know, I'm

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>racking up a fairly substantial amount of points that allows

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>me to open up a fidelity account, of multiple different

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>types of fidelity accounts that I can open, and one

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>of those types is a donor advised fund. And so

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>the cool thing about donor advised funds is that they

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>allow the donor themselves to make a charitable contribution to

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>receive that immediate tax benefit that year, but then actually

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>disperse those funds in different amounts to different organizations over

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a variety of years. Yeah, so you can kind of

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>watch it grow. Uh, you've kind of taken that initial deduction,

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>but then you can watch it grow and decide how

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>much you want to give away you know, this month,

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>next month, you know, five years from now. So that

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of too could also help alleviate some of that,

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, budget busting. If you have like a donor

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>advice fund, a small one set up, and you have

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>this maybe monthly amount that you give, but then you

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>ship away and kind of put a little bit here

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and there. Yeah, and then but then, but then, let's

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>say you get like a bigger request from a charity

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and you see the need and you feel like you

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>really do need to put your money to work for

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that charity. You know that donor advice fund can be

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>that perfect opportunity for you to give of some additional

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>dollars um that you kind of have in reserve. And

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's it's kind of a cool tool that

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you can use and and hopefully to you know, in

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>donor advice funds, often in your money is invested and

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.399
<v Speaker 1>so hopefully it's also growing at a bigger clip than

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.919
<v Speaker 1>just the money that's sitting in your savings account. Yeah,

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>which is definitely great. And something to keep in mind

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>too with donor advised funds is that once you donate

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:54.479
<v Speaker 1>to those funds, it's gone right like, like, you can't

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't withdraw that money back into you know, your

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>regular savings account or something like that. Oh wait, I

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>need it, Nope, Nope, that money is then earmarked for giving.

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Exactly the way that the government sees that money is

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that once it goes into that fund, it is at

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.479
<v Speaker 1>that point charitable giving and it can't it can't go back,

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like it can grow in your account there, but at

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:17.919
<v Speaker 1>some point you're going to have to gladly hopefully donate that. Yeah,

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>so if you're interested in opening one, look at the

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 1>specific rules of the company where you might consider opening

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 1>a donor advice fund. But they are definitely a good

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>option for people looking for kind of outside of the

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>box ways to give a little bit more. Here specifically too,

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a great way for big earners to offset

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>their income, right so, like so it's definitely for doctors

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and and folks that have very high incomes. If you're

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>looking for ways to minimize your tax burden, that's one

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of the strategies, you know. And this kind of it

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>seems kind of cold hearted. I guess, like it's like, oh,

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>this is one way that I can reduce how much

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I give the government is to give to charity, and

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it feels like the heart isn't in it. I guess

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>as much. But like we said before, you want your

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>money to go as far as you can get it

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to go, and so this is one of them are

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>ways that you can reduce your tax burden while at

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the same time maximizing the amount of money that you

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>can give to charities. Well, and speaking of doctors, our

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>friend Physician on Fire has a great article about donor

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>vice funds, and so we'll link to that in the

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>show notes as well. Something I want to ask you

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 1>is what are your thoughts on auto enrolling versus like

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>manually having to give to like different charities or whatever

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it is that that you do every month. And before

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you answer, the reason I asked us is because I

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 1>thought back to the episode we did on like ways

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to cut your monthly bills right, and you had specifically

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>mentioned how you like to with some bills at least

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>not put it on auto pay, so that you kind

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 1>of had to manually go in and pay it every month,

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>so that you would feel it right these here you

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>feel where I'm going, No, I completely, I completely feel

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it where you're going. And honestly, when you ask the question,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly where and so you know me too well, Doc,

0:44:55.480 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a huge benefit in doing something physical

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.919
<v Speaker 1>right where you actually pay a bill and you kind

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>of feel the money a little bit more than you

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>auto pay, and you're you know, finally reconciling at the

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>end of the month versus being like this data point

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that just shows up and yeah, okay, that's so like

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>actually taking the time to even if it's not writing

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a physical check, right, but actually on the keyboard typing

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it in right. Yeah, there's something to that. I think

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>the same is true forgiving, because I feel that in

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>myself there are some elements of some of the charities

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that I give to that are kind of set up

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>on automatic withdrawal, and I don't feel it in the

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>same way. I guess, you know, I get the you know,

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>an email or a newsletter or an update or something

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, and so that's kind of the time that

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I spend thinking about where my money is going, but

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel it when i'm actually, you know, specifically

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>donating the money. And so I think that, again can

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>be up to the individual, but I do see in

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>my life how setting up some of those automatic withdrawals

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>has actually led to me thinking less about it, and

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I do think there's a a huge benefit to actually

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it and being, you know, act an active

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>participant in the actual, you know, physical tangible act of

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>writing the check or or just typing in the credit

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>card information online. Yeah, man, I mean I would totally agree, right.

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I do think though that the sort of the auto draft, right,

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of setting it up on the recurring

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>thing might be really helpful for folks who are looking

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get started and giving. So it's a tool,

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of see it that way, like

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a way for folks to kind of get

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you on a plan. It kind of signs you up

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and you're on it for the next you know, however long.

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like I think for a lot of folks,

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that might be if you're used to that, and if

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you've been on that sort of treadmill, like you're on

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that cycle for a while, and and like Joel said,

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're not feeling it as much, or you don't

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>find yourself like thinking about it at all until you

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>get like the tax document at the end of the year,

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>if that's like the only time that you think about it,

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>then maybe at that point it is a good time

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>for you to take it off the auto draft and

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>have it set up to where you have to manually

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.959
<v Speaker 1>do it yourself, because you know, like, yeah, you're gonna

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 1>think about it more. If you're sing it and you're

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it and it's in more of your day

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to day life, it's going to be something that has

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 1>a larger impact on you personally. At the same time,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>while I say that, though, I don't want to discourage

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>people from agreeing to uh support some cause and not

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>doing auto draft, because if you know that that's how

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get on board and continue to pay

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 1>for the next twelve months, well then do it. You know.

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like a gym membership, Like a lot of

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>times people join the gym because they know that, well,

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>if I don't do this, I'm not gonna go like

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 1>if I don't join this program, if I don't sign up,

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 1>if I don't do this, then I'm not gonna do it.

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.319
<v Speaker 1>And you definitely don't want that as well, because the

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>ultimate goal here in the end is to give your

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 1>money away, hey, and to actually help people, And so

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>don't let that be a hindrance from you to actually

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>helping people and making the world a better place. Yeah,

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes for me, when it comes to that dilemma, the

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>best way to do it is to set up a

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>calendar reminder. It gives me that ability to think about

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 1>where my money is going to quickly hop on and

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>make the donation, you know, on that monthly basis, and

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that gives me kind of the best of both worlds

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>where it is almost recurring, but it actually also takes

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of thoughts. So maybe a calendar reminder

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 1>is that that happy medium for you as opposed to

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that direct a c H or direct bill pay you know,

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>actually gives you that tangible time to think about where

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 1>your money is going and reflect on it. Back to

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the beer real quick. I really enjoyed Russian River consecration. Man,

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a blast from the past that we brought back tonight.

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It's someunny that you mentioned blast in the past. I

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 1>was actually listening to a beer podcast because I'm a

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>nerd and they're talking about just all the new breweries

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and how the guy the host was asking another, you know,

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 1>somewhat newer brewer what they thought about Russian River because

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>there were someone like the original pioneers when it came

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to some of the new styles and definitely with sours

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and barrel aging, and he's just like, you know, do

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you think that people will forget about Russian River? And

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy that he was interviewing was just like, no way,

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Like they're they were just such pioneers, Like there's no

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>way that that folks would forget about them. And I

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>feel the same way, you know, at least for us suthenly,

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>with it being one of the first amazing, world class

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like barrel aged hours that we'd had. Like when he

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>when he said that, I was just like, WHOA what

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of world do we live in that he thinks

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that Russian River may not be relevant anyone. Yeah, I'm

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 1>completely still pumped to see this show up, you know,

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in a package on my doorstep. And thanks again to

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Carl who runs the website days dot com and if

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you care about the topics we talk about, you're really

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like his site. But yeah, this is such a good

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 1>beer and all the beers honestly that I've had from

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Russian River have been eight plus. Man, They're like super good.

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I would love Have you ever been out there? No?

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I would love to visit. Let's do it. We need

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to take a porn u poor trip out there. Yeah,

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>we do alright, man, time for a recap? How to

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.600
<v Speaker 1>give your money away right now. You might feel like

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that you don't have the margin in your in your life.

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>You may not feel like that you're in the financial

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>position to where you can give your money away, to

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>where you can give to charity, and to that we

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>would say, no, you need to start giving now, because

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>what it does is it starts creating that habit. It

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 1>starts allowing you to build that muscle of giving money away.

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>So when you have a lot of money, guess what,

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be any easier to get that

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>money away when it's a huge dollar amount. It's it's

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>if anything, it's gonna be harder. And so you want

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>to get into that habit of being generous and being charitable. Yeah,

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and giving your money away changes you. It lessens your

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>attachment to money. And that's actually a good thing, I think,

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>especially as people that are frugal want to say for

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the future, that think about you know where their money

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>goes often, you know, and if you're listening to this podcast,

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you're probably one of those people. It can be hard

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 1>to give your money away. And so I think it's

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 1>really important because it changes your heart and it changes

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the way that you view money in a really positive way.

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And and for those folks out there to

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>who really literally don't have any money that then give away,

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 1>consider volunteering your time. There's a lot of organizations that

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>need people more than they need money, And with our

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>lives becoming more and more busy, time is becoming more

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and more valuable. So yeah, that might be something that

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you have that you can give away. Yeah, and be

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>picky about the charities that you choose to give to.

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Charity Navigator is an awesome site. They do an amazing

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.399
<v Speaker 1>job of helping you understand where the money that you're

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>giving is actually going. They kind of hold these nonprofits

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:16.760
<v Speaker 1>feet to the fire and will help you understand whether

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 1>your money is going through overhead or actually going to

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>the people and the places that you wire money to

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:29.479
<v Speaker 1>go to for maximum effect. Great tip, Joel. And then lastly, uh,

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>be sure to budget the amount of money that you

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:36.320
<v Speaker 1>want to give away every month. It might seem stiff

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know, kind of overly formal to do that,

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>but like you don't have to decide exactly where that

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>money is going to go per se every month, just

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>decide that you're going to give a certain amount at

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>least every month, and you need a plan for it.

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>You need to have a plan. You need to make

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that part of your life. Anything that's worth doing right,

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>anything that you are trying to achieve or that's a

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.439
<v Speaker 1>goal for you, you plan for it. And so, uh,

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, giving your money away should be no different.

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 1>If you want to do it, make sure you plan

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>for it so it doesn't blow your budget and so

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that you can go into it with more intention and

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>so that gives you the ability to give proactively versus

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>reactively with guilt, no doubt. So thanks for listening everyone,

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.080
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0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:19.200
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0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:24.879
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0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:31.440
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0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.160
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0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.359
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