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Tonight We're 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: joined by my teammate Jake Ritma one five through the Fan. 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 3: As always, we've got the three time Super Bowl champion 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: and six time Pro bowler Nate Newton here with us 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: and our special guest tonight has probably one of the 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: fuller trophy cases that we're gonna see this year. He 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: won the Walter Camp Award in two thousand and seven. 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: He is a two time winner of the Dope Walker 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: Award and the Jim Brown Award, two time All American, 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: two time SEC Player of the Year, a Heisman finalist, 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: college Football Hall of Famer, former fourth overall pick in 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: the NFL Draft, and a man who spent ten years 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: in the NFL, including three with the Dallas Cowboys. I'm 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: talking about one of the most exciting football players to 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: ever touch a field. It is Darren McFadden. Darren, thank 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: you for joining us tonight, man. 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: How you doing fields. I appreciate you guys having me 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: on man. It's a joy to be here. 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely just thrilled to have you here. And one of 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: the things I want to jump into first is I 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: was looking over some stuff, just your background and different 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: things that you know, your your journey to Arkansas, and 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: I finally it's very rare. This is one of the 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: few times I finally found somebody who grew up with 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: more brothers and sisters than so I'm the second oldest 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: of nine, and we were it was like every two 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: and a half years another baby was coming. And I 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: found out, well, looking stuff up. You are one of twelve, 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: one of twelve, Yeah, twelve children. Which number are you? 47 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: I'm number ten of twelve. I'm one of the youngest. 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a little brother and a little sister. 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: Everybody else's older as seven boys and five girls ages rain, 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: I think my oldest brother is about fifty four or 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: fifty five. Now my youngest sister is thirty one or 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: thirty two. So we got a big age gap. Man, 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: I got a nephew that's actually older than me. 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Wow. 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: It's interesting when people would ask us that when we 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: were younger. 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get off that right quick. Bob hit me. 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: Who beat you out for the for the Heisman? 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: So my sophomore year choice Smill from Ohio State beat 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: me out, and my junior year which is the one 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: I definitely expected to win, beat out by t BO 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: out of Florida. 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Man, all right, go go back, go back to your thing. 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 5: Man. 65 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 6: I just that threw me away with I know normally 66 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 6: when you say award winning, it don't. 67 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Come with them in the awards you know. 68 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 7: No, you and Andrew Luck you Luck both runners up twice. 69 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: I think we I think we two of the three people. 70 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: I think there's only three people that have the. 71 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Give Award for that you're on a tribute, don't have 72 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: an off of man. 73 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: I tell people, you know, it's it's actually an honor 74 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: to be considered the second best player two years in 75 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: the ro because you have guys that win a Heisman 76 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: and then you know next year they may come back 77 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: and may not win one anything. So to be one 78 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: of the top guys in college football, man, it's it's 79 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: definitely an honor for sure. 80 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: So you know, obviously, as things have changed over time, 81 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: youth athletics has become a more expensive kind of thing. 82 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: But but as somebody who's grown up in Little Rock, 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: one of twelve the Rock and then getting into being 84 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: a three sports three sports star, you played football, track 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: and thenk you played baseball as well? 86 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: Well, tried baseball. I played basketball, basketball, Okay, basketball is 87 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: the other one that you played. 88 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: How is that that journey like towards getting to the 89 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: football field and really finding that as a passion as 90 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: a young man in Little Rock? 91 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: I tell people, for me, I guess I think I 92 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: kind of took the football like right off the bat man. 93 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: I started playing six years old. 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: I had older cousins and older brothers that played and everything, 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: so I always seen always around football growing up. And 96 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 4: the first time I played, I remember when we were 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: in full pass, I slept in my past the night 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: before and I'm six years old. It's something that I 99 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: never would do again. Feeling and crazy, but you know, 100 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: it was something I just took to man, and I 101 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: love playing the game of football. Tell people I feel 102 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: like I'm a physical guy, like contact, And it was 103 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: just one of those sports I just took too, right 104 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: off the back year. 105 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, you out ran everybody. 106 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: I was gonna I was gonna say that must have 107 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: been a miserable existence for a guy that loves contact. 108 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: Run fo tel and just you know, it's it's always 109 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: funny because you know, when I talk to people that, 110 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: so they would always bring up me being fast and 111 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: being able to run around guys. 112 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 5: But you know, if you've actually watched me. 113 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: Play and everything, you know, you I would say that 114 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: you know I'm a physical guy. Man, I'm not gonna 115 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: shoy away from the contact, you know, And it's something 116 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: I took pride and my dad always told me as 117 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: a kid, you want to punish the tackler, and so 118 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: it's something that stuck with me as a kid. He's 119 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: one of my biggest critics, man, and so he definitely 120 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 4: instilled that and to me to just you know, run hard. 121 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, you were grew up in Little Rock obviously, 122 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: like we just talked about there, you were a big recruit, Like, 123 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you're one of the guys that everybody recognized, right, 124 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: this is somebody who's gonna be an immense talent. I 125 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: know you got recruited by other SEC schools and had 126 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: other opportunities. Was it just always a no doubt about it, 127 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna grow up, I'm going to the Razorbacks, 128 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: and everybody else is wasting their time here. 129 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 5: It was. 130 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: It was hands down for me growing up in Little Rock. 131 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: I grew up in an environment that you know, my thing. 132 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: I wanted to just get away from that environment and 133 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: go to school. You know, I didn't have any plans 134 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 4: to become this big, mega football star or anything like that. 135 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 4: I just want to get away from the environment that 136 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 4: grew up and be able to go to the university 137 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 4: of Arkansas. I grew up a Razorback fan growing up 138 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: in Arkansas. That's like, that's our professional team right there 139 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 4: at the University of Arkansas. 140 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: And so just being up growing up there. I remember as. 141 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: A sophomore, I was offulboy the University of Arkansas, and 142 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: so came around my junior year before my season started, 143 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: pretty much just talking to my high school hell my 144 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: high school football coaching each other. 145 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: Man, you know you're gonna go. 146 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: It's no point of wasting your time, of wasting anybody 147 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: else's time. I had been talking to Alabama real tough. 148 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: They had a running back coach at the time, Sparky 149 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: Willis was a running back coach, and he would call 150 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: me and I talked to him a lot, and you know, 151 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: I finally had just told me that, man, I'm committed 152 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: to Arkansas. 153 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 5: This's where I'm going. 154 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: So I committed right before my junior season, and you know, 155 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: I never waited from it. 156 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome. 157 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 7: We're talking with Darren McFadden here on Cowboys Cross Talk, 158 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 7: and you brought up your siblings. 159 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: I told my younger brother on the way here. 160 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 7: I'm talking Darren McFadden later today, and he said you 161 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 7: gotta tell him he was responsible for my crashouts on 162 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 7: Xbox because we'd be playing playing with Arkansas. He pulled 163 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 7: I pulled a spin move or something like that. And 164 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 7: back then, you know, video games were just kind of 165 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 7: getting it and everything. And now you know, guys make 166 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 7: money on the video games and everything. 167 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: But did you ever. 168 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 7: Play, you know, with your teammates and roommates and when 169 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 7: the video games were just getting started because you were 170 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 7: the best players. 171 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: It was one of those things. 172 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: I'm not a big video game but you know, being 173 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: in the dorm room and things, guys would come up, 174 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: we play, you play some some time to time. But 175 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want of those big guys who just like 176 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: I'm getting over here, I'm playing with Arkansas. 177 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do a garg. I'm just not a big 178 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 5: video game other people were. 179 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 7: I'm telling you, man, that was like one of the 180 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 7: quick go Tess. 181 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: I love the fact that you just referenced the Wildcat there, 182 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: and I know that was a big thing for Houston, 183 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: not at the time. Who was your head coach of Arkansas? 184 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: Is that Houston had? 185 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: Uh? 186 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: I remember this years ago, him talking about getting you 187 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: the ball that way is that he said, like, look, 188 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: we've got to work to get our best players the 189 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: balls often as we can. So if I got to 190 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: put him back there to run wildcat like, I'll do 191 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: it just because that helps give us an advantage. So 192 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: it's like having a twelve player out there that that 193 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: coming up through that offense and getting the ball in 194 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: your hands like that. What was that like for you 195 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: in terms of just the vote of confidence and knowing 196 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: like you've got a head coach here who's like committed 197 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: to getting you the football in your hands and trusting 198 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: you and the pressure that comes with out of trusting 199 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: you to be kind of the. 200 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: Guy I tell people. So Danny Nutt Houston brother, he 201 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: recruited me. 202 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: He was a running back coach and he recruited me, 203 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: and so he would always come to my high school games. 204 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: He would come and watch me play basketball, watch me 205 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: track me and everything. So he had seen me. I 206 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 4: play quarterback growing up. I wanted to be a quarterback. 207 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna be the right hand Michael 208 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: Vig growing up. So, uh, I got to be a 209 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: sophomore in high school. My running back coach, my head 210 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: coach was saying that I can either start running back 211 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: or be a be a backup quarterback, and so of 212 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 4: course I would want to start running back. And so 213 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: over time he was still I was still when we 214 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: go after I senior quarterback, graduating my junior and senior year, 215 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: I was still play a little quarterback, but I was 216 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: mostly running back. And so Danny nut knew that I 217 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: could go back there and I could run an offense, 218 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: and he had the confidence and be so he pretty 219 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: much pisched it. I deal with to Coach Nutt, and 220 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: you know, they kind of took that and they had 221 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: to confidence in me as a player. You know, they 222 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: they gave me full control back there. You know, I 223 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: was able to make audibles back there, change the play 224 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 4: if I needed to, if I saw something different in defense. 225 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: And so but Denny Nutt, he's one of the guys 226 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: that he definitely knew that what I could do back there, 227 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: and had they a confidence in me to be back there. 228 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: And so Coach Nutt took his word on ned and 229 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: you know, we made that took that offense and ran 230 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: with it. 231 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: One of the most talented dynamic backfields in the history 232 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: of college sports. You have Darren back there, who's a 233 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: you know, one of the most decorated runners of all time. 234 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 3: You had Felix Jones back there, who's a first round pick. 235 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: Here in Dallas. You had Peyton Hillis, who ended up 236 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: being a Madden cover guy. Uh, just talk about the 237 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: the talent that existed there. And I've asked Nathan before 238 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: about the teams that he played on the idea of 239 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: just competition elevating you and and talent elevating everybody, as 240 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: opposed to what's kind of the modern nil era where 241 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: it feels like when there's a lot of competition, go 242 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: where's my out, where's my exit? Where where do I 243 00:09:59,280 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: find something else? 244 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: I think for us, just the three guys that we were, 245 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 4: I think it was a very unique situation because all 246 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: three of us we want to see the next person 247 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: do well, and we want to we we fed off 248 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: of each other, each each other doing well, and we 249 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: didn't have any any animosity towards each other. We felt 250 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 4: like Coach Nut did a great job of spreading the 251 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: ball around. You know, you got a high hand, you 252 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: gotta go with the high hand. And I feel like 253 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: there's something that our coaches did great when I was 254 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: in school, and so I think it's a It was 255 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: a very unique situation just to have three guys who 256 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: got along the way that we did. And I feel 257 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: like in this day and age, it's no way possible 258 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: that Darren McFadden, Phoenix Jones and the Peyton Hills will 259 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 4: be in the same backfield at all. And so I 260 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: really give credit to those guys, you know, just being 261 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 4: so open minded, not being selfish man, and that that 262 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: was the main thing for us. 263 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: We were very unselfish players. You ever heard of the Tracks? 264 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 5: The track? 265 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 6: Uh? 266 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 5: Well, I call him the Tracks. 267 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: Star from Gary Anderson Junior, his son ran tracks. 268 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: But I do know them? Want to Joe t. Robinson 269 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: High School in Arkansas? 270 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the Big Year. 271 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: I know of him, all right. 272 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: All right, So we are talking Razorbacks. We're talking with 273 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: dere mcfatten here on the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk. We'll take 274 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: our first breakers to a minute or two. But before 275 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: Razorbacks are in the news a little bit this week 276 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: there is a there's been a head coaching change. Sam 277 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: Pittman is out. It's gonna be Bobby Petrino, uh filling 278 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: in for the rest of the year. But there are 279 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: questions about you know who the next option is. We 280 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: interviewed Jerry on one O five through the Fan tried 281 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: to get his thoughts and he didn't take the bait, 282 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: and he's like, no, no, no, He's like, NFL does 283 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: not like us weighing in on coaching changes. But that's 284 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: somebody who's not an owner. Is there any are there 285 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: any thoughts you have on the future of Arkansas football. 286 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that I have a certain person in 287 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: mind anything, but I do think for the situation that 288 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: we in, for what we've been doing in basketball, what 289 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: we've been doing in baseball, we got. 290 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 5: To bring out football program alone as well. 291 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: And so I think we have to make a splash 292 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 4: higher whatever that may be, whether it's a former NFL 293 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: coach or. 294 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: A college coach or whatever it may be. 295 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 4: I think we have to make a squash hard how 296 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: somebody who's who's willing to come into Arkansas and you know, 297 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: just make things happen. 298 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: Man, very good. We were talking here with dere mcfatair 299 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: on the SLBBC Covilescrossock. Let's take our first break of 300 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: the show. When we come back, we're going to talk 301 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: about getting to the NFL being a top five pick 302 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: and then eventually after years in the NFL, coming to 303 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys and working with a fellow Arkansas legend 304 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: and Jerry Jones. We're talking with dere mcatten here on 305 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: the SMBC Covis Krassock. We got Jake Rietma, Nate Newton, 306 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: dere mcfatten, I'm Bobby Belt. 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We are live from the Cowboys Club at 316 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: the Star in Frisco for the s WBC Cowboys Crosstalk. 317 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan 318 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: in Dallas, the radio flagship home of the Cowboys. We've 319 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: got Jake Ritma for one of five through the Fan 320 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: with us. Three time Super Bowl champs, six time Pro 321 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: Bowler Nate Newton is here as always and our Cowboys 322 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: ELEVENI this evening is former Cowboys running back Darren McFadden. Darren, 323 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. Absolutely appreciate it. So we're 324 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: looking over we just talked about your time at Arkansas, 325 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: A huge, decorated career, and then you get into the 326 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: NFL Draft and you are one of the biggest buzz 327 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: names that's involved in the draft that year. You end 328 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: up going fourth overall to the Raiders. Walk us through 329 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: just the experience of leading up to the NFL Draft 330 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: kind of where you thought you were going to be, 331 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: all of the processes. Did you feel like pretty much 332 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: slam dunky you knew you were going to be a 333 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: Raider or how did that whole process go for you? 334 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: So leading up to it, No, it was one of 335 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: those things pretty much. No, I was going to be 336 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: a high draft peak. I didn't know exactly where I 337 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: would go, but you know, I had heard anything from 338 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: one to tea and for me coming out, no, So 339 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to be to go out to 340 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: New York and experience the draft, have my family come 341 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: out there, and so that was a great experience. I 342 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: feel like, come now that I felt like the Jets 343 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: was one of the team that took me the most 344 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 4: serious coming out. They had the number six pick that year, 345 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: and I remember that they had an amazing offensive line 346 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: at the time, and so I kind of felt like 347 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 4: I was gonna go to New York and they ended 348 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: up not taking me, and I ended up going to 349 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: Oakland and number four Man, which I had been to 350 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 4: a visit for him and everything. Lane Kiffin was the 351 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: coach at the time, and you know, he had called 352 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: me that morning was like, if I'm still there at 353 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 4: four that they were gonna take me. And so when 354 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 4: I ended up there Man, being from Arkansas, I knew 355 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: a little bit about the Raiders, but I hadn't followed 356 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: the Raiders history a whole lot, and so being able 357 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: to go out there actually the night I was drafted, 358 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: the late Grey Willie Brown, he was there at the 359 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 4: draft and I flew back from New York to Oakland 360 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: with him, and it was just a great experience being 361 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 4: able to learn the history of the Raiders and it 362 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: was it was. It was a lot coming out being 363 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 4: one of the top decorated running backs from my playass Man. 364 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: I got to Oakland, I had high hoss for myself, 365 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: got thisury bugs that I couldn't shake. 366 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 5: Man. 367 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: I feel like every time I started to get healthy 368 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: is like another knick knack or something. But I always 369 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 4: tell people, for me as a running back, it wasn't up. 370 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: I never had anything like like attending or aclor anything. 371 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: It was turf, toe high ankle springs, just things that 372 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: for a running back that you just can't go out 373 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 4: there and do what you need to do. And though so, 374 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: you know, I tell people, I feel like I had 375 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 4: an up and down career out there. 376 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 5: Man. 377 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: You know, I'm thankful for the experience that I had 378 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: out there, you know, being able to go from there 379 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 4: to hear is it was a great opportunity for me. 380 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: You know. It's something Nate, I'm curious for your perspective too, 381 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: for both of you guys. We hear a lot from 382 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: NFL players. I like to ask guys from time to 383 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: time in the locker room or things like that, just like, hey, 384 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: what would you say is the biggest thing fans don't 385 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 3: understand about the game or the biggest misconception they have 386 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: about the NFL or being an NFL player and things 387 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: like that. And one of the things that comes up 388 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: pretty frequently is guys who say like fans don't have 389 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: an awareness of just how much work we put into 390 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: to make sure that we stay healthy or that you know, 391 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: the things that we're going through where it's like we're 392 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: banged up, or there's this, or the wearing tear it 393 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: takes on your body and the way you've got to 394 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 3: just keep kind of persevering through that. So when you've 395 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: got the injury issues and some things that are popping up, 396 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: is that a case of even when you're healthy in 397 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: the NFL, you're not totally healthy. 398 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: It's one of those things from I guess from a 399 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 4: from a fan perspective, if they see you out there 400 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: on Sundays or Monday, whatever that the game is, they'll 401 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 4: assume that you're healthy. But it's, uh, some guys one 402 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: hundred percent and seventy five is better than you know, 403 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: guys one hundred percent fully, And so you have guys 404 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 4: who play out there o injuries. But I don't think 405 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: of people A lot of people don't understand that. You know, 406 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: when you see it on Sundays and things, you think 407 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: it's just a lot of bright lights turned on, but man, 408 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: it's a grinding go into it every day. It's some 409 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: guys that be in the building at five thirty in 410 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: the morning when I got it. 411 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 5: Later in my career, I will be in the building. 412 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: Five thirty five forty five and just get a workout 413 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: in and everything hogh tub, cold tub, just before meetings 414 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: even get started, you know, just to you know, try 415 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: to keep up my body ready and just stay healthy. 416 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: And that's something that It's a lot that goes into it, 417 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 5: for sure. 418 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 6: The natural human body is not built to be banged 419 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 6: on and and and that's what I tell you. You 420 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 6: can all day long, go play racquetball, or you can 421 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 6: play hoops with the guys, all of it. You can 422 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 6: do all that, but just stop every now and then 423 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 6: when you're playing raquetball and just take off and running 424 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 6: to the wall. 425 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean, just as hard. 426 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: As you can just one time car accident. 427 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 428 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 6: So, and I'm not saying that that's just a football player, 429 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 6: not the one time that you're gonna hit that wall. 430 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 6: But I'm just saying trying to give you an idea 431 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 6: of these guys back in the day. Now even today, 432 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 6: with these guys, they don't hit as much as us. 433 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: But that's not natural, you know, that's not natural. 434 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 6: So when a guy do hit an injury bug and 435 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 6: he's a running back now he's he's running every day. 436 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 6: It's trying to get past the high, trying to get 437 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 6: as that ankle, and then you gotta leave there, go 438 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 6: get in the world, wool, go get ice, go try 439 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: to get itself ready for a game where it's gonna 440 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 6: be one hundred miles an hour. Brother, it is a 441 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 6: lot of work. And it's a lot of work. I 442 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 6: would say a lot of work. I would always tell people. 443 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 6: They would ask me how long it takes me to 444 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 6: feel good after a game. I would say, from Sunday 445 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 6: to Saturday is when I start to feel good, and yeah. 446 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 5: It's right back in it, just in time, right. Yeah. 447 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: So when you had those short weeks, man, a lot 448 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: of times you had to recover from a Sunday game. 449 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: You turn around and play on a Thursday. You're still 450 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: working out swords and it's time to go again. 451 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 452 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 7: Along those same lines, we've seen some pretty major injuries 453 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 7: in the NFL this season, Tyreek Hill most recently Malik 454 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 7: Neighbors unfortunately, and a lot is made about playing on 455 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 7: the field turf surface compared to natural grass. 456 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: Now Oakland Raiders the. 457 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: Coliseum you're playing on baseball field for goodness sake? 458 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: But do you Are you as. 459 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 7: Vocal about wanting to play on natural grass as a 460 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 7: lot of guys are now. 461 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: I think I grew up in an era where you know, 462 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 4: I was just I went out and played football. You know, 463 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: I didn't speak about whatever conditions were, and I don't 464 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: really I can't really say because I don't know if 465 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 4: me the injuries that I've had, I don't I can't 466 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 4: say that I correlate them to playing on grass and 467 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 4: playing on turf as a player. Would I rather fall 468 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 4: on turf or fallow on grass? Yeah, I'd rather fall 469 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: on grass. You know, I can't really, you know, vocalize 470 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: my opinion on it because I haven't dealt with some 471 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: of the injuries that these guys are dealing with, and 472 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 4: so it's hard for me to really. 473 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: For late in my career, That's funny. 474 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: When I got by my seventh eighth year, that's when 475 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 6: I wanted grass my seventh and eighth year. But early 476 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 6: in my career I wanted that term, I mean because 477 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 6: it didn't make a difference. I mean that term we 478 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 6: had an eye on turn, and I realized that the 479 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 6: guy that could beat. 480 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 3: So I gotta know you you played on that old 481 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: veterans field. 482 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 6: Was it like you're talking about up there? We should 483 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 6: get a what it was when a thousand people come 484 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 6: together and get a lawsuit. 485 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: Class. This was basic, man. 486 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 6: I think one player one of that blew out both 487 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 6: of these at the same time. 488 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Come on, man, that was that was a death trap. 489 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 8: Man. 490 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: I would ask my dad about that turf and so 491 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: my grandmother had it's just a concrete porch with their 492 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: turf over and he said, and I was asked him 493 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 4: about it, he would like fall down on there and. 494 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: What was that? Was Philadelphia his Grandmama's trump boy? 495 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 7: Worse than being tackled on the baseball field, though, did 496 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 7: you ever get tackled out of the base. 497 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: Like So it's like something like some of these little scars. 498 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: It's from being drug on their dirt and stuff like 499 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: the strawberries on the side of your body. We were playing, 500 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: so when the ads were doing good, they would leave 501 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 4: the grand it would be grassed, it would still be dirt, 502 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: and so we would hate that. 503 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 5: We would hope they would go home. 504 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, this time Layaba. 505 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: Bringing the dirt out, so they will go ahead and 506 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: bring the grass, so we'd have to play on the 507 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: dirt like that. 508 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: Man. 509 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: But we're talking with Darren mcfatten here on Cowboys Cross Sock. Okay, 510 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: So you spent those first several years with the Raiders 511 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: and and you mentioned the injury problems, a lot of 512 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 3: different things that you were dealing with there, and then 513 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: you end up coming to Dallas after your seventh year. 514 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 3: Just talk about the process that led to you coming 515 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: here joining the Cowboys. Did you did you have any 516 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: perspective about the Cowboys from from younger days or once 517 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: you got into the NFL and and what those final 518 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 3: couple of years were like. 519 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 4: So for me growing up in Arkansas, I was, you know, 520 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 4: by default a Cowboys fan from my family and everybody, 521 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: you know, being an Arkansas. 522 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: Guy, but being able to come here. 523 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: So I would always the year before, we would always 524 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: be watching film and you received the Marco marray on 525 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 4: there He's crazy offensive line, open these holes and everything. 526 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 5: So I would just see something. 527 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: I would watch it from a running back standpoint and 528 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: see some of the holes that were being opened up. 529 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: It was just amazing to me. And so when it 530 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: off season came and my agent called me and said 531 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to go to Dallas. It wasn't 532 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: even a question in the world to me. I'm like, 533 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: let's make it happen. And you know, he was able 534 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: to make that happen for me being able to come here, 535 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 4: Like I said, I felt like it was I almost 536 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 4: started my career again. I wish I could have came 537 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: here coming out as a rookie, man, but I felt 538 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: like a guy put that play together. It was the 539 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: time for me to come here. When I came here 540 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: in twenty and fifteen, man, I was able to come in. 541 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 4: We had we had a bunch of injuries on the 542 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: team that year, man, but we had a healthy offensive. 543 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 5: Line in front of us. 544 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: And I tell people that was probably one of the 545 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: best offensive lines I've ever run behind. And I remember 546 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: talking to my dad and he was saying that talking 547 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: about Tony being hurt and dead is being hurt, and 548 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 4: I was like, Man, if that offensive line stays healthy, 549 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna rush for a thousand yards. I've been on 550 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: plenty of teams that I didn't have a quarterback of 551 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 4: a receiver out there, man, So to run behind those 552 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: big guys up there, man, was it was pretty fun. 553 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: For sure not only rushed for a thousand yards, but 554 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 3: did it with all the injuries and everything else that happened. 555 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: And that was after the first several weeks. You were 556 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: not the primary running back. It was Joseph Randall at 557 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: the time, and things that kind of shifted to you 558 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: later in the season and you had kind of become 559 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: a stabilizing force. Even though there were the struggles, there 560 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: was their personal satisfaction for you of like, man, I'm 561 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: playing sixteen games. I'm in a spot where i feel 562 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 3: like I'm getting the opportunity to show what i can 563 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: do and I'm having some success. Cause that kind of 564 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: a it was a struggle at all of like now 565 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: we're having some tough times, but I feel like I'm 566 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: finally getting showcase what. 567 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: I can do. 568 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 5: I can tell people. 569 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 4: For me from a team standpoint, it was rough, but 570 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: it for personal feeling, you know, it was a great 571 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 4: feeling for me just being able to, you know, just 572 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 4: kind of shake off all this talk I've had about 573 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: not being able to play sixteen games and this and that, 574 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: and you know, just going up there next to showing 575 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: people that what I could do. 576 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 5: Man, it was a great feeling for me. For sure. 577 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: Now there's a lot of people who admire Darren McFadden 578 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: the football player, but I know there's a lot of 579 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: people who also in recent years have come to admire 580 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: you for your openness and your honesty about some of 581 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 3: the struggles you had post playing career. You just passed, 582 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: i know, a two year of anniversary a few months 583 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: back of your sobriety, and so just talk about how 584 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: that came to me, some of the issues you had 585 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: post playing career and celebrating that milestone recently and how 586 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: big that's been for years. 587 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 5: You know. 588 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 4: So you go from every day pretty much on this schedule, 589 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: doing this, doing that, and you know, that's what I 590 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: was doing. And when I wasn't doing that, I turned 591 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 4: to you, you know, just pretty much drinking. And I 592 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: was drinking. I wasn't playing football anymore, I didn't have 593 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 4: a schedule. Me and my wife didn't have kids at 594 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 4: the time, and so, you know, just a lot of 595 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: drinking and going on for me. 596 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 5: I got in trouble with the police, had lit the DPI. 597 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: And everything, and it just kind of started to put 598 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 4: my life in perspective. 599 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 5: Man. 600 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: It was God giving me signs. And then I turned around, 601 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 4: and it was in twenty nineteen that I turned around. 602 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty three and I ended up receiving another 603 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 4: DUI and so it was just like God really set 604 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: me down and talked to me, man. And so ever 605 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 4: since I received the other d on their second d 606 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: on d UI five, eighteen twenty three is my sobriety day. 607 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 5: Man. I haven't had a drink of alcohol since. 608 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 4: And them, I tell people, it's I feel the greatest 609 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: I feelt in my life. 610 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 5: Man. 611 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: I can sit down and you know, think clearly, you know, 612 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: actually be able to be present for my kids and everything. 613 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 4: I tell people I was there physically, but you know, mentally, 614 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: you know, I was just kind of all over the 615 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: place and just being able to be there presently, man. 616 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 4: And I'm just having a great feeling them. I just 617 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: I'm in a I feel like I'm in a great 618 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: place in life right now. 619 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 5: Man. Just very happy. 620 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 3: That's fantastic for both of you, Nate and Darren. I've 621 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: heard different players talk before about when football's over, how 622 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: you know you'll hear some guys say like you need 623 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: to make sure you find something to fill that time 624 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: because because it's easy to feel really isolated really fast 625 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: because football has been your whole life and to be 626 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: away from that it can be, you know, a little 627 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: daunting to figure that out. How key is that, you 628 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: think for guys who are maybe nearing retirement, like, hey, 629 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: find something to fill that time productive. 630 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 6: And the biggest star you are, the harder you fall, 631 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 6: man like it's a stark from the sky, you sky rockety. 632 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 6: You mean you coming to their quick because you've always 633 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 6: been regimented. And Darren mcfanners the name knowing, so everybody's 634 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 6: known you. He can go anywhere, get a drink like 635 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 6: I could. I can go anywhere, get a drink. People 636 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 6: want to take care of you. People want to you know, 637 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 6: but you don't have that where you wake up five 638 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 6: point thirty, you know, go to the center, work out. 639 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 6: You don't have that regiment no more. And a lot 640 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 6: of times you want to work, but you you've never worked. 641 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 6: I mean, what am I gonna do? 642 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 5: You know. 643 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 6: The advantage to now, even though we don't like it 644 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 6: as fans, is, guys have careers doing football now. Back 645 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 6: in the sixties they had careers doing football, but somewhere 646 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 6: the money got so big so you didn't have to 647 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 6: have that career if you didn't want to. But we 648 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 6: wasn't doing the right things. We didn't have a regiment. 649 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 6: We didn't see life after football because we always thought 650 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 6: it would be there. So when that thing come crashing 651 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 6: in on you, and if you don't have a force, 652 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 6: a god, a belief, or something to bring you there, 653 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 6: bring you back, you. 654 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Can get lost. 655 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 5: Man. 656 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 6: It's a lot of brothers out there don't have this 657 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 6: great story like I have. 658 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: But this man here had that's a great story. 659 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people don't even know how 660 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 6: to take that, you know, especially if you not have 661 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 6: been since you was Pop Warner all the way to 662 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 6: you thirty. Yeah, regiment it even during the off season. 663 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 6: You regiment it, and that's all you knew. 664 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: And it's gone. 665 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 5: And that was my biggest thing. 666 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: When I first retired, I tell people I thought I 667 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: was ready to ready retire, Like I played ten years as. 668 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 5: A running back. I was ready, But you know, deep 669 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 5: down inside, it took. 670 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: Me about a whole year if I actually realized, like damn, 671 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 4: I excuse me. I was like, man was all right, 672 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: Like man, I wasn't ready to start playing yet once 673 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 4: that time after this, because once I retired I was. 674 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: I thought I had a plan. I was like, I'll 675 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: be able to go hunting, I'll go fishing. I can 676 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: do this whenever I want to. And doing all that, 677 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: you drinking it at the same time. And so you 678 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: do so much, honey, you do so much fishing, but 679 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: you still drinking and stuff. And then after a while, 680 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 4: it just it just become a part of it. And 681 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: that's what it seemed like to me. And you know, 682 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 4: to have a wife and children at home, you know, 683 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: that's one of the things that made me want to 684 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: do the right thing, to be there and be better 685 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 4: for them. 686 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 5: Man. 687 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 4: I grew up, like I said, growing up in little 688 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: I grew up in the places. I grew up around 689 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: gang violence, drugs. I grew up in a family with 690 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 4: alcoholics and drug addicts. So it's something that I've seen 691 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: my whole life. I didn't think I was an alcoholics 692 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 4: because I was still getting up every day, handling my business, 693 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 4: taking care of stuff. And so I'm like, nah, that 694 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: ain't the alcoholic that I had in mind for what 695 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: I've seen growing up or whatever. And so being able 696 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: to have a family at home and you know, come 697 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: back to a realization that you got to be a 698 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 4: better person for them. That was one of my biggest things. 699 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: And it's a blessing for me, man, because I could 700 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: be you know, the way I was drinking, I could 701 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: be dead or in jail anything, man. So it's a 702 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: blessing just to be able to be here and be 703 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: sitting here talking to you guys and be sober and 704 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: not have to worry about drinking and worldling and stop 705 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: and get a drink. 706 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 5: Yet. Well, I'm here doing an interview and. 707 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: All that is fantastic stuff from Darren McFadden here on 708 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: the SLVBC Cowboys Cross Talk. He is our guest this evening. 709 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: We've also got Nate Newton with us, Jake Greetman, Bobby 710 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: bel from One the Fan. When we come back, let's 711 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about what we saw on the 712 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: football field this past weekend. Well we'll see if Darren 713 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: or Nate has ever found themselves in the middle of 714 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: a tie on the on the football field. That's next 715 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: on the SLVBC Cowboys Crosstalk. 716 00:32:34,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 8: Cowboys, No Cowbaws, No Cowboys. 717 00:34:53,960 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: Hos, SWBC Mortgages, Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk. Yeah check broadcasting live 718 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: from the Cowboys Club as a Star in Frisco. 719 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: I want to use what the bros use. Jack Black 720 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 3: is the official men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys. 721 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 3: Visit get Jack Black dot com. Today we are live 722 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco for 723 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk, which is live on the 724 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys dot com, and all 725 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 3: other associated social media platforms. I'm Bobby Velt from one 726 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: O five through the Fan in Dallas. That is the 727 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: radio flagship home with the Cowboys. We've got Jake Grietma 728 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: from the Fan here, three time Super Bowl Champs, six 729 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 3: time Pro Bowler Nate Newton is here, and our Cowboys 730 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 3: ELEVENI this evening is former Cowboys running back Darren McFadden. Darren, 731 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: thank you again for joining us and hanging out for 732 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 3: a little bit this evening. So this was a quite 733 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 3: a game that took place at at and T Stadium 734 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 3: on Sunday. I was talking with both of you guys 735 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: before and during the breaks and stuff like that. Neither 736 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: one of you guys ever had an NFL tie or 737 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: anything like that that you ran into when you were playing. 738 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 5: I don't think i've ever played in the NFL tie. 739 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: I played against some cads of overtime, never tie in 740 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 4: the NFL, everything, and. 741 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: You never got those, And I guess that's the thing. 742 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: How that was the biggest thing that I thought. So 743 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm just there as media, I'm not even there participating 744 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 3: in the game, and as media, no, not even playing, 745 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: getting there, getting there at three o'clock in the afternoon, 746 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: and then you're like, like, all right, you're you're doing all 747 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: the work, getting things ready for everything, You're sitting there, 748 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 3: you're watching the game, you're taking all these notes, all right, 749 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: how we're gonna talk about this tomorrow, how we're gonna 750 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: do this and that, And then at the end of it, 751 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 3: and then it's like, that's eight hours. We're now everything 752 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 3: that I've been watching and collected. I can't even tell 753 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 3: you if it meant anything towards winning or losing the 754 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: game either way, because it's a tie. So so I 755 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 3: can only imagine for me how that's for you guys, 756 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: just obviously for guys who've never experienced that. How do 757 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: you think you you even processed that though? As a player, 758 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 3: that everything we just did, all this battling we did 759 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 3: on the field, it ultimately didn't even give us the 760 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: satisfaction of a win or a loss. 761 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 4: That's gotta be a till from right there, because when 762 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: you walk out there as a blear, you're expecting to 763 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 4: win the game. You don't walk into the game expecting 764 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: to lose. So you walk into the game expecting to win. 765 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 4: So once you go through all that and get to 766 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 4: the end of the game, it's like nobody is won. 767 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: It's just a tie. 768 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know how I would feel walking 769 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 5: away from the one right there. 770 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: Nate, how about you? 771 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 6: You know, I don't and I didn't debate, you know, 772 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 6: like live here, I don't win, and I don't. 773 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't debate that. But I know me. 774 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: We need to either win or lose. That's all. That's all. 775 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 8: I know. 776 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 6: How you get to that win or loss. You do whatever, 777 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 6: but walk off the field to put in all that work, 778 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 6: Like you say, we don't put in a whole week 779 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 6: of work, hey man, especially if you was favorite to win, 780 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 6: especially if you're a favorite to win. 781 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: You man, what happened? I don't know, man, you know. 782 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 3: And so much of it when you were standing right 783 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 3: outside the locker, I think, right at the end of 784 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: the game, and you could just see guys streaming in. 785 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 3: Most of those guys had never been involved in the 786 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: tie either. 787 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Jet the guys that I saw, Yeah. 788 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: First tie since nineteen sixty nine for the Cowboys, So 789 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: I mean, this is something Jerry Jones has never been through. 790 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: Brad Sham has never called the Cowboys tie this Erry 791 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 3: everybody and you watch guys walking into the locker room. 792 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 3: Jerry did not look like he was happy with the tie. 793 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 3: Brian Schotenheimer did not look like he was happy with 794 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 3: the tie. Everybody on the football team kind of looked 795 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 3: that way. And I was trying to think about it, like, Okay, 796 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 3: is this different because they just gave up the score 797 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 3: a tie, Like if it's reversed, if they're kicking the 798 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: field goal to tie it, are they walking in there 799 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: a little bit happier if things end a little bit 800 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: different way? Are they okay with a tie? But when 801 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 3: you look at trying to build off of that, would 802 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: it just feel a little split Like I'm was like, 803 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: I can't even say, well, we did this well and 804 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 3: then we can build out that. But maybe we need 805 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 3: to fix that because it just feels like it was 806 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 3: not enough in either direction. 807 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: I would say, looking at it from an outside the end, 808 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 4: for a Cowboys fans standpoint, you're down on your defense 809 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 4: because they gave up the opportunity at the end of 810 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 4: the game for them to be able to get down 811 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 4: there and tie. 812 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 5: And on the flip side of that, there's a Packers fan. 813 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 4: If I'm looking at that, I'm happy about the way 814 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 4: that my offense went down their field, but I don't 815 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 4: like the way that they managed their clock at the 816 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 4: end because they almost pretty much gave the game away 817 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 4: pretty much. 818 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 5: And so you know, from a Packers standpoint, I'm taking 819 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 5: that positive. 820 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 4: And from a Cowboys standpoint, man, I was proud of 821 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 4: my offense for going down scoring with a minute something 822 00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 4: left on the clock, and you know, I need my 823 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 4: defense to go out there and stand up and you know, 824 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 4: get the stop for us. 825 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: You know, I was fortunate enough to walk by some 826 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: of the Packers players as they was loading their bus. 827 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 1: You know, I was just looking at them, man, them dudes, 828 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: we wasn't fitting that. 829 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 6: Because we know we don't ever want to lose, and 830 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 6: we never think of we prepared to win. But you 831 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 6: hit the noise and you you know, like, man, if 832 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 6: the Packers play their best and we play our best, 833 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 6: we may come out of here still losing. 834 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 5: Right. 835 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 6: And I'm telling you, man, you can see the Packers. 836 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 6: You thought I guys said these guys were stunning. Yeah, 837 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 6: these guys was I'm looking at them on that bus. 838 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 6: I'm looking they were stunned. 839 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: They had their little bags and their little food bags. 840 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 6: Everybody had their little bag, and they're just like nobody 841 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 6: was eating. Everybody was just sitting on the bus. Like, yeah, 842 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 6: that's what I was gonna ask. 843 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 7: Like, you know, especially now there's a lot more point 844 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 7: spreads and this team's favored by this much, and it's 845 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 7: just mixed into the coverage. 846 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: It's just kind of part of the language. 847 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 7: As a player, you know, the difference between I guess 848 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 7: back then if you will compared to now. 849 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: But at the same time, you gotta know. 850 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 7: If you're a quote unquote favor versus a heavy underdog, 851 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 7: how much would that factor in? 852 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 4: Oh so, like I said, I was looking at it 853 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: from the positive standpoints now coming into that game. If 854 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 4: you're favored by a ten to twelve hours whatever you 855 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 4: are favorite is as a Packer, you know, you don't 856 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 4: you don't want to come out of there with a tie. 857 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 4: So you're definitely on there with your head hung low, 858 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 4: and you're upset with yourself about the way that you played, 859 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: because no matter what the Cowboys did over there, you 860 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 4: know that you were supposed to beat them, and so 861 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 4: you know as a Packer fan getting on their bus 862 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 4: and headed back of Green Bay. 863 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 5: Man, I'm saying with my head hung low. 864 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 6: And see on the only like Fad and said, I 865 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 6: only keep it real, right, I want to keep it real. 866 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: How many sacks? 867 00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 6: What's Parson supposed to get right? How well we was 868 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 6: not supposed to be able to complete a pass? 869 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: Lamb gone. 870 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 6: We know that this kid is an up and coming 871 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 6: stud of pickings. Double him, take him out of the game. Man, 872 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 6: I'm so proud of Jaylen Tobert. I'm so proud of 873 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 6: flooring off. These guys gave what they could give. Jake, 874 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson even broke his own record and got a 875 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 6: ten yard touchdown. He broke the five yard per catching Harry. 876 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 6: You so to keep it real, That's why I'm looking. 877 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 6: And I was so happy because we doing these late 878 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 6: shows and I'm like, who are these young, good looking 879 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 6: young men, and I said, oh, I'm the pack of 880 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 6: guys and every one of them telling you man, they 881 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 6: had their little food bag, had the you know, they 882 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 6: luggage and they getting on the plane there, I mean 883 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 6: getting on the bus in each one on Man. 884 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking up in there, like, man, how do they feel? 885 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 5: You know? 886 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 6: I saw the cowboys and had that stern look on 887 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 6: their face and nobody was eating man. 888 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: Everybody was like hurt. They crushed bro. 889 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned the the way that Micah was neutralized. 890 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 3: Mike was very disruptive obviously, but then they figured out 891 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: that they figured out a way to work around it. 892 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: Dak is getting the ball out quick, Dak is making 893 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 3: subtle moves here. 894 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 5: They're hicking. 895 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely hundred percent. And one of the 896 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: things I saw watching it back Javonte Williams and the 897 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 3: way that he was hip blocking and and and the 898 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 3: work that he was putting at And Darren, I'm just 899 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: curious about for you, as somebody who obviously played the 900 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 3: running back position, seeing the difference that maybe a guy 901 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 3: like Javonte Williams is brought here. Dalla started with the 902 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 3: physicality and the way that he kind of you know, 903 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 3: punishes defense with his running side, but also with the 904 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: chip blocks and just how willing he is to Hey, 905 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure that if we're gonna be in 906 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 3: this game together, you're gonna feel me today. You're gonna 907 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 3: feel me Monday morning. 908 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 4: And see that goes back to me liking the physicality man, 909 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 4: So being able to see that, I love it. If 910 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 4: I had an opportunity to tell my tackle like, I'm 911 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 4: gonna get a chip, so you can say it tight 912 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 4: a little bit. I love to be able to get 913 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 4: a chip on guys man, So being able to see 914 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 4: a guy because I'm at the end of the day. 915 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 4: After when you out there playing football as a running back, 916 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 4: you're gonna get gad at the end of the day, 917 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 4: and so somebody gonna. 918 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 5: Get to so you gotta get somebody. 919 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 4: If I'm able to get a chip, man, I would 920 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 4: always tell my offensive line, man, I'm gonna make sure 921 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 4: I set up I can get a chip on you. 922 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna help you out, especially if you got a 923 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 4: guy like Parson out there. Man, I might line up 924 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 4: outside of you over here just to slow him down 925 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 4: getting off their ball. 926 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. 927 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 6: You watched the Friday thirteen, the Jason's movies and all 928 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 6: of that, right sure, And I just felt like every 929 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 6: time if you look at go back and look at him, 930 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 6: Parsons was this close, like fifteen times, I feel like 931 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 6: and that you just brow you know you But on 932 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 6: Friday thirteen. 933 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: You got got like you got you open the door, 934 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: you walk in, Oh. 935 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 6: It's safe, say your head coming off, you know, you know, 936 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 6: go back and look at that film and see how 937 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 6: many times on the offensive line Javonte Williams got that. 938 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: Bruh. It was some close calls in that game. 939 00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 6: Man. 940 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: That Dak is on another level right now with his 941 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: pocket plays. 942 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know, I'm I'm curious too for you. 943 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: I asked this. 944 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: I've asked this of Nate before. I've asked this. When 945 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 3: we have defensive players in here and you're running back, 946 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: you just talk about how much you like the physicality 947 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 3: of the game. But I always tell the story that 948 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 3: that there's a coach a couple of years ago here 949 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 3: with the Cowboys who told me, like, you have no 950 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 3: idea what it does to an opponent when you can 951 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 3: just physically exhaust them with the running game, When you 952 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 3: can when you can take a toll on them physically. 953 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 3: That can be more demoralizing into them than giving up 954 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 3: sixty yard scores. It's it's so difficult psychologically and physically 955 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 3: for defense to take. How big was that for you? 956 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 3: Could you feel at times when you would dole out 957 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 3: punishment in the run, do you feel it kind of 958 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 3: like sapping them? 959 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 5: You definitely can feel it. You you can. 960 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 4: You can feel it once you once you get the 961 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 4: once you get in the game, you give four or 962 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 4: five yards, and it's like, oh, i'stead of getting these 963 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: four and five. 964 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 5: I know it's gonna happen eventually. 965 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: So you can till as a running back man and 966 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 4: you got open line, and they can feel like, oh 967 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 4: this guy right here, he's whatever, and so we can 968 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 4: we can we need to run this again. And so 969 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 4: you have guys that they once you start feeling that 970 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 4: man as a as a as an offensive lineman and 971 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 4: a running back, you love to get those four or 972 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 4: five yards of care because you know eventually they're gonna 973 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 4: start opening up. 974 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 5: Man. 975 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 4: Even though on the two or three yards, you know, 976 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 4: if you can get a push on thirty one, thirty two, 977 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 4: if you can get that push right there, and you 978 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 4: feel like you've done it with ease. 979 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 5: You know, it's just a great feeling. There's an offensive 980 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 5: lineman or running back. 981 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 7: I would imagine the body language too. 982 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 3: You start to see a little bit hands on, Hey sure, 983 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 3: what were some of the you know, the warning sides, 984 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 3: the red flag? 985 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 6: You know, you know you were winning when you get 986 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 6: back in the middle of that third quarter and the 987 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 6: safeties are complaining. I'm serious. The linebackers ain't gonna never 988 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 6: say nothing. They gotta line you up. Everybody the first one. 989 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 6: But when the safetist is going to say, hey man, hey, man, 990 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 6: make a tackle, they're tired of coming up. 991 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 5: Like you say. The linebackers, you know, they gotta they 992 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 5: gotta be the hard. 993 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: But nothing. 994 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 5: Would be the first one to let you know. 995 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh they used to get into it, man, chopping up. 996 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 6: Then come up, man, You bo have been there on 997 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 6: the outside. You're like, man, if you set the edge, 998 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,959 Speaker 6: we want to worry about the house. 999 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 3: All right, let's let's take our final break here at 1000 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: the s l BBC Cowb's Cross Talk. We've got Darren 1001 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 3: McFadden here with us, Nate Newton, Jake Rema on Bobby Belt. 1002 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: When we come back, uh, let's talk about just the 1003 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 3: decision in overtime. Do you do you go for that 1004 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 3: field goal? Do you go for it on fourth down? 1005 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 3: Do you trust your defense? And the psychologically how a 1006 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 3: player would look at that moment and and and how 1007 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 3: they would feel about it. We'll talk about that next 1008 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 3: on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross. 1009 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 5: Talk cow. 1010 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 4: Ho No was. 1011 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 8: Don't Cowboys. 1012 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: Back back to SWBC Mortgages Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk checked the 1013 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 1014 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 3: At s WBC. Customized solutions for individuals and businesses are 1015 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 3: just to click away. Visit slbbc dot com to learn 1016 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 3: more and start your next adventure. We are live from 1017 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 3: the Cowboys Club Starring Frisco for the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk 1018 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 3: on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. I'm Bobby Belt from 1019 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 3: One of five through the Fan in Dallas, the radio 1020 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 3: flagship home of the Cowboys, joined by my one to 1021 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 3: five Through the Fans teammate Jake Ritma, three time Super 1022 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 3: Bowl Champ, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton, and our 1023 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 3: Cowboys alumni. This evening is former Cowboys running back Darren McFadden. 1024 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 3: All right, guys, So we were talking about it a 1025 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 3: little bit, going to break. The Cowboys get down in 1026 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 3: overtime to the five yard line on the incredible Jaylen 1027 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 3: Tolbert catch that you were talking about last segment, Nate. 1028 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 3: They have a run to Javonte Williams. They pick up yard. 1029 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 3: Second down, Dak Prescott kind of scrambles and gets caught 1030 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 3: from the ankles and basically a no game. So if 1031 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 3: they're looking at third and goal from the four, and 1032 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 3: they end up running a mesh concept, which for people 1033 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 3: listening at home, it's essentially just think of some crossing 1034 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 3: patterns that are going on with a couple other things 1035 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 3: that are occurring, and Green Bay has as perfect coverage 1036 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 3: lined up for it. They're they're in uh cover four 1037 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 3: man match and you're not getting the picks that you're 1038 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 3: hoping with the mesh there. So ultimately Dak pretty quickly 1039 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 3: it looks like kind of recognize, uh where this place 1040 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 3: toast throw it out of the the end zone as 1041 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 3: pressures coming, and then they kick the field goal with 1042 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 3: you know, five minutes left or whatever it is. And 1043 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 3: with the new rules in the NFL, there's another possession 1044 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,280 Speaker 3: that Green Bay is going to get in an opportunity 1045 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 3: to bring it down the field. And there was a 1046 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 3: question after the game about, you know, your defense hasn't 1047 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 3: gotten to stop the entire second half. Should you have 1048 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 3: gone for the touchdown? And just said, you know what, 1049 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 3: if we don't get the touchdown, they're at the four 1050 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 3: yard line, they're backed up, They're gonna feel little bit 1051 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 3: of a press here. But the other line thing, obviously 1052 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 3: is you take the points. You take the points, and 1053 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 3: that's what you have to do in that situation. I'm 1054 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 3: just curious for your thoughts as players. Let's let's say 1055 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 3: you're playing in this game. Nate, You're you're one of 1056 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 3: the offensive linemen in that game. Darren You're you're in 1057 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 3: the backfield for that game. What are you guys saying 1058 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 3: to yourself that moment on four down? Are you saying, like, coach, 1059 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 3: give us a shot, or you're just saying, we got 1060 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 3: to get the points and let's trust our defense. 1061 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,399 Speaker 5: Me as a player, give us a shot. 1062 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: What about the house on that? 1063 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 4: If I'm in there as a player fourth and goal, 1064 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 4: I don't care, man. Just my mentality, the way that 1065 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 4: I feel with my guys in front of me, man, 1066 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 4: I feel like we can get those four yards, and 1067 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 4: so let's make that happen on the flip side of 1068 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 4: their corn. As a coach, you know you're still playing 1069 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 4: to win the ball game. You know you have a 1070 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 4: guarantee three points. Almost the way the defense is playing, 1071 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 4: you don't know what's gonna happen, but it's a chance 1072 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,959 Speaker 4: they can get a stop. 1073 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 5: So you're up about three at the end of the day. 1074 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go from from innocent bystanding, how coach did 1075 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 6: it play it? 1076 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 5: Sure? 1077 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,959 Speaker 6: But you're talking about as a player, Yeah, we ain't 1078 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 6: looking at the sideline, Coach, just give us the play. 1079 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 6: We ain't remember we were the guys that uh low 1080 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 6: left yeah, not once, not twice, with three times yeah. 1081 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know we wouldn't die. 1082 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 3: You're telling Lynne, you're telling lynn Elliott's get back on 1083 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 3: the sideline. 1084 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: We're not coming out here, Brud. We'll trust you, hey, 1085 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: and God, we trust man. 1086 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 3: And that was And I know we've talked about this 1087 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 3: a little bit before the show, Nate, that your thought 1088 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 3: on it was, and I think everybody kind of feels 1089 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 3: this way. You don't really blame anybody for going either way. 1090 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 3: You don't blame the coach if he says let's go 1091 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 3: for it on fourth down. You don't blame the coach 1092 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 3: saying get me the points and let's try to get 1093 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 3: a stop here. From my perspective of looking at it, 1094 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 3: I had wondered, and you guys will be able to 1095 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 3: speak to this really well as players. To me, I 1096 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 3: just feel like the the endorsement in the faith to 1097 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 3: say to Dak, Hey, the way you've played tonight, you've 1098 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 3: earned this extra shot. George Pickens, the way you've played tonight, 1099 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: you guys have earned the extra shot. We're we're gonna 1100 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 3: draw them up here, just get you a back shoulder fade, 1101 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 3: and we're gonna see if you guys can just mono 1102 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 3: and Mono outdo them right here and just and give 1103 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 3: them that vote of confidence. And then if it fails, 1104 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 3: you say, all right, they're backed up on the four, 1105 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 3: let's if we can make a play here. But but 1106 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 3: to me, I just wondered, like, did you put your 1107 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 3: confidence in the wrong group. But like, let's just take 1108 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 3: the field goal and let's count of the defense to 1109 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 3: stop this for us, Like I. 1110 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 6: Said, innocent bust and whatever the coach is you, yeah, 1111 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 6: as a player. Once again, we ain't looking over there. 1112 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 6: We don't work on this, We don't work on this 1113 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 6: in practice. In practice, man, and uh, you know, everybody 1114 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 6: looking for that defining moment fellas I would tell you so. 1115 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was opportunity, but this team ain't built like 1116 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: that right now. 1117 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's just you know, I ain't know w 1118 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 6: Preter Cowboys lou Never, but this is not the defining moment. 1119 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just not as we look ahead in the 1120 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 3: last minute here that we have bounce back. How do 1121 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 3: you bounce back after a game like that? Obviously, like said, 1122 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 3: y'all never played the Tide. But but what are you 1123 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 3: doing here? Are we just saying, hey, let's go up 1124 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 3: to New York. There's a lot of injuries heading in 1125 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 3: there against the Jet the homecoming of sorts for Brian Schottenneimer. 1126 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 3: Does this sound like a good week to probably just 1127 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 3: run the ball and let's slow this game down a 1128 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 3: little bit before. 1129 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 5: You even see it. He has a running back coming 1130 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 5: into it. Man, I want to come in there and 1131 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 5: try to establish the run. Man. I want to take 1132 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 5: some of their pressure off. 1133 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 4: Dick Man, let George go ahder and have fun on 1134 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 4: the edge and you know, you know, let's run the 1135 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 4: ball man. 1136 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 5: Count on these big guys a little front to get 1137 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:21,399 Speaker 5: us going. 1138 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 4: And I feel like as a running back, you really 1139 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 4: can make all the team drive, you know, from just 1140 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 4: bringing the energy that you bring. That's why I tell 1141 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 4: people that when I would finish runs, I would see 1142 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 4: my defense on the side. 1143 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 5: And you know that that that that extra thump at the. 1144 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 3: End, you know, it brings a lot from Darren McFadden's 1145 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 3: mouth to God's ears. Darren, thank you so much for 1146 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 3: joining us tonight. For Nate Newton, Jay Green, I'm Bobby Belt. 1147 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 3: This has been the s WDC Cowboys across talking the 1148 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys Ready Network. 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