Speaker 1: Today's episode of Taking to the Draft Podcast, We've got
Speaker 1: special guests Jeremy Green and the Mouth of the South.
Speaker 2: He asked the draft guru Fred Smooth, is in your house,
Speaker 2: Fred Smooth for our special mock drafts seven rounds where
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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with very special guests. Not only
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Speaker 1: I got scared.
Speaker 2: Thank you for making me feel at home. Your voice
Speaker 2: does it for me. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: I look like Fat Luke Combs and I sound like
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Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: The thing is is that Jeremy has been our all
Speaker 5: star guest Fred. He's taken the spot from you because
Speaker 5: our top two performing podcasts are the ones he's been one.
Speaker 3: So that's true.
Speaker 5: Fred, last week's Guaranteed Ballers was was up there, which,
Speaker 5: by the way, you won that. Everyone can check it
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Speaker 5: to me, I got to step it up right now.
Speaker 2: With our powers combined, we will beat it smooth.
Speaker 4: Don't feel bad, It's just people saw the thunnail and
Speaker 4: went did they actually get the brawny got to do
Speaker 4: a podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sasquatch Sasquatch Toolate. But today obviously we got
Speaker 1: a great like all star guest list, but we also
Speaker 1: got a really fun show because if you want a
Speaker 1: seven round mac, we're picking every pick for the Commanders.
Speaker 1: But before we get into that, you know, it's good
Speaker 1: to have Jaremure, It's good to have Fred here, and
Speaker 1: Jason and I have talked about this a little bit.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about We're going to talk high level
Speaker 1: about team needs, draft strategy, trading up versus down, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get to the mock. So let's start
Speaker 1: with needs. Jeremy, because you're the guest and you're the
Speaker 1: most handsome guy here, why don't we start with you are?
Speaker 1: What are the Commander's team.
Speaker 3: Needs for me?
Speaker 4: I've got to get an edge rusher of some kind.
Speaker 4: I don't think receiver is as big of a need
Speaker 4: as everybody else seems to tell me that it is.
Speaker 4: I keep targeting it late, but I think with Debo
Speaker 4: and McCaffrey and I think they're fine there, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I'm gonna side with with Ap and say that Ben
Speaker 4: Son it can be the future tight.
Speaker 3: End, even though I didn't. I did not love him
Speaker 3: last year. Ye, so I'm not.
Speaker 4: As big on taking a tight end. I want to
Speaker 4: get an offensive lineman. The question is do they play
Speaker 4: Coleman at tackle or do they play Coleman at guard.
Speaker 4: I would prefer to kick him in the Garden draft
Speaker 4: to right tackle, because I think there are a lot
Speaker 4: of those in this class. But I got to get
Speaker 4: a lineman one way or the other, and a younger
Speaker 4: linebacker at some point.
Speaker 3: Oh and corner.
Speaker 4: That's corner I think was the most obvious one.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Conan is the most obvious thing.
Speaker 2: Bringing in Jonathan Jones a guy that could play inside
Speaker 2: and outside, and I do think you can add not
Speaker 2: a true tight end to that tight end room, but
Speaker 2: a weapon like a roarer from Miami, somebody that has
Speaker 2: a certain skill set, I think you can break them in.
Speaker 2: I think we need a explosive running back. Like when
Speaker 2: I say running back, I'm talking about speed, raw speed.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a game breaker at running back. And
Speaker 2: everybody talks about edge. But Jean Baptist and a couple
Speaker 2: more of these guys you brought in. I think because
Speaker 2: if you bring in an edge Russia and you draft
Speaker 2: him after the first round, he's a situational pass rusher,
Speaker 2: You're not bringing him in to play on first and
Speaker 2: second down. You're bringing him to be a third down
Speaker 2: guaranteed past Russia. So I think because of what we've
Speaker 2: done in the free agent it's no heart draft picks
Speaker 2: in this draft.
Speaker 3: I think we draft situational.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at when it comes to who we
Speaker 2: draft and what I wants in these are I think
Speaker 2: I want out way I needs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I agree with Fred. I think we've
Speaker 1: established and covered up a lot of needs. But I
Speaker 1: do think ed rusher kind of comes to the forefront
Speaker 1: because of how deep seemingly the addresser classes specifically in
Speaker 1: that kind of I don't know, twenty to forty five
Speaker 1: range in the draft. I think you got a lot
Speaker 1: of guys in there, like Shamar Stewart's in there, Malachi
Speaker 1: Williams is in there for Michael william Michael Williams is
Speaker 1: in there for me, you know obviously Donovanez, Roku, Landon Jackson,
Speaker 1: Nick Gordon, Like those guys are kind of in that cluster.
Speaker 1: So it just feels like that area of the draft
Speaker 1: potentially could be saturated with that kind of player. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about that, Jeremy, but
Speaker 1: that's something that I look at and I say, like,
Speaker 1: that's why it feels like that's the direction they're going
Speaker 1: to go, because not only does it kind of fit
Speaker 1: a pseudo need for the team, because I think Frederick
Speaker 1: Band have a great point. Yeah, but like it just
Speaker 1: seems like that area is going to be very dense
Speaker 1: with players that could make a difference at that that rusher.
Speaker 2: Can you agree me that it feels like a dirty
Speaker 2: love affair, right, Like the NFL has a dirty love
Speaker 2: affair with wide receivers in age rushes, And if I
Speaker 2: look at the last couple of Super Bowl winners, they're
Speaker 2: guaranteed guys are in the mid tom they are d tackles.
Speaker 2: Chris Jones, you feel a dead field, like everybody's in
Speaker 2: love with will Williams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me and Williams like, yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody's in love with the edge. I'm in love with
Speaker 2: the interior. Aaron Donald. I'm in love with the guys
Speaker 2: that can get to the quarterback faster than the edge Russia.
Speaker 2: Do we need edges, Yes, we need edges, But I'm
Speaker 2: one of those guys. I'm about to I'm about to
Speaker 2: nose town. I'm about to detail because I'm about the
Speaker 2: three techniques.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that still is like the point though.
Speaker 1: It's like in that area of the draft. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels like to sim me a lot of edges, and
Speaker 1: so I think that's why people have been thinking about that. Jeremy,
Speaker 1: would you agree with that?
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 4: I love this edge class. I'm not as high on
Speaker 4: the two Georgia guys.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I still have no idea what position Jaylen Walker plays. Sure,
Speaker 4: and Michael Williams is starting to feel like the great
Speaker 4: sasquatch of people tell me how great he is, but
Speaker 4: I don't really ever Trava.
Speaker 3: He's big and he's fast, but but I.
Speaker 1: Mean, you take that guy in like the late twenties. Probably,
Speaker 1: I think you probably feel really comfortable about that skill
Speaker 1: set there, or am I.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to be anywhere near that
Speaker 4: board in the late twenties.
Speaker 1: You think you'll be gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be gone. But I'm saying I thank you
Speaker 3: guys in the top ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But what I'm saying is like in normal year, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable taking him, very comfortable. Probably seventeen to thirty.
Speaker 1: I feel really comfortable.
Speaker 3: Where are you going to play in?
Speaker 5: So my question for you guys is how do you
Speaker 5: think this is a testament to AP and the front
Speaker 5: office for building the team, especially through free agency and
Speaker 5: last year's draft to get to the point now where
Speaker 5: we're talking about the positions that are deep in this draft,
Speaker 5: and that's where you're targeting. Yeah, so you were throwing
Speaker 5: out corner, wide receiver, running back, edge. You could kind
Speaker 5: of go anywhere because everything is solid here and you're
Speaker 5: just trying to elevate a room somewhere based on the
Speaker 5: depth of the draft.
Speaker 2: Well, good teams don't depend on rookies to make plays.
Speaker 2: Good teams bring in rookies and add them to already
Speaker 2: sit group. All right, if you a good team trying
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl, you're not going to win
Speaker 2: it through this draft. You just adding pieces. And I
Speaker 2: think that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 5: So the only caveat that that would be quarterback. Right
Speaker 5: you want to draft a rookie quarterback to jigit. But
Speaker 5: we have that.
Speaker 1: We you got that.
Speaker 5: So now it's like you said, you don't want some.
Speaker 2: Best pieces available, Let's pack a couple of rooms up
Speaker 2: and get a couple of surprises, like that's what you
Speaker 2: use to get from a rookie class. Let's just say
Speaker 2: McDuffie in Kansas City, he went in the latter half
Speaker 2: of the first round. Now he's one of the better
Speaker 2: defensive backs. But then because they had the luxury of
Speaker 2: drafting McDuffie, more wants than need. So that's why I
Speaker 2: say the good teams never a pigeonhole theyself where hey,
Speaker 2: we need an edge. We got to take an edge
Speaker 2: in the first round, so we take whatever edge is there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't think can I elaborate on what
Speaker 4: friends said there. That's a stance I've had for a
Speaker 4: long time. Good teams stay good because they can stay
Speaker 4: trade of their board. Philadelphia has done it, Kansas City's
Speaker 4: done it, and Baltimore they perfected it. Of whoever the
Speaker 4: highest rated player is on the board, I don't have
Speaker 4: a need that is so great that I have to
Speaker 4: take a player. When you have to take a player,
Speaker 4: that's when you make mistakes. Tennessee is about to do
Speaker 4: it Ward cam Ward's not the best player in this class.
Speaker 3: He closes the best in this class.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: But you have to have a quarterback.
Speaker 4: So you're going to buy pass two guys that I
Speaker 4: think are generational in Abdul Carter and Dravis Hunter, and
Speaker 4: you're going to regret it for the next ten years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is a quarterback of you. But I
Speaker 1: think that speaks to kind of the draft strategy element,
Speaker 1: and you know, Adam Peters, it is such a great
Speaker 1: job of like like Jason said, of establishing the roster,
Speaker 1: and I guess putting this team in a position where
Speaker 1: they don't have to And I think that's when Jeremy
Speaker 1: kind of went through team needs. It's he's just kind
Speaker 1: of it's all of these things, like it's O line, receiver, corner, edge,
Speaker 1: but none of them are essential. Just about kind of
Speaker 1: determining where the value is, yes, you know, at the
Speaker 1: various picks or where the commanders are selecting. And I
Speaker 1: think that's again like kind of speaks to me the
Speaker 1: perfect draft strategy, because again he talked about the teams
Speaker 1: that do at the Baltimore as the Philadelphia Eagles, all
Speaker 1: those different teams, and now that the commanders are actually
Speaker 1: run by adults, Like, now we're seeing that happen here,
Speaker 1: which I think is like the thing that I'm taking
Speaker 1: away leading into the draft.
Speaker 2: Could you agree with me that it maybe be ap
Speaker 2: looked at the draft prior and see it not.
Speaker 3: A super deep draft.
Speaker 2: Let me get my guys in free agency, let me
Speaker 2: go get established guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably an element of it too.
Speaker 1: But I also think like last year, you know, like
Speaker 1: when you look at the draft, like they the way
Speaker 1: the draft falls traditionally is like you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: a good offensive lineman in the draft class, right, and
Speaker 1: especially when you pick it when you're picking at twenty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna go off the boards. They get elevated,
Speaker 1: they get pushed up, right, That's part of the deal
Speaker 1: with the draft. So you go out get Laramie Tunsel, Right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to get a difference making playmaker
Speaker 1: at twenty nine oftentimes not, so why not trade for
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel? So I just think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: just good practice in general and something you've turned me
Speaker 1: on too. Quite honestly. It's like the draft picks are
Speaker 1: just their assets, right, So you can either select a
Speaker 1: player or you can trade for a player, but the
Speaker 1: goal is to use them to make your roster better.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what he did, and it's and
Speaker 1: I think even if they were even if this was
Speaker 1: a good draft, I think these are all good offseason
Speaker 1: moves at Adam Peter's Maid.
Speaker 4: And we're a Baptists where you find long term relationships.
Speaker 4: Free agency is where you find the girl you go
Speaker 4: out with four times and then she scared your death.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're about to get into the seven round
Speaker 5: mock here. We're not going to do any trades in this.
Speaker 5: We're just going to go straight through as if we
Speaker 5: stick and pick at every pick we have. But before
Speaker 5: we start, there is a lot of people doing mock
Speaker 5: drafts out there that have us trading whether up or down,
Speaker 5: to get a guy to not get a guy. We're
Speaker 5: not going to do that in this draft. But I
Speaker 5: really quickly want to talk about the potential of trading
Speaker 5: because it's a real possibility. So Jeremy, we'll start with you.
Speaker 5: If the Commanders are able to trade in that twenty
Speaker 5: nine spot, what would you do? Would you go up,
Speaker 5: would you go back? Would you stay? What? What is
Speaker 5: the ideal situation if you're the GM here.
Speaker 4: Well, I think to what Fred said, this draft is
Speaker 4: not deep. If you're looking for the elite guy in
Speaker 4: the top ten, the guy you get at A and
Speaker 4: the guy you get at forty five, the grade should
Speaker 4: be pretty close. So I'm trying to get more picks
Speaker 4: in that forty five to fifty five to sixty five
Speaker 4: to seventy five range. If Washington can trade down, one
Speaker 4: of these teams get desperate Jackson dark Falls. Don't sleep
Speaker 4: on Tyler Shuck going in the first round. I've heard
Speaker 4: that more times in the last two weeks that teams
Speaker 4: have him ahead Award and somebody's gonna fall in love
Speaker 4: with Shuck and come.
Speaker 3: Up there to get him.
Speaker 4: If there's one of those guys on the board, I
Speaker 4: think Washington can move down because you're in that great
Speaker 4: spot where you're in the last handful of picks in
Speaker 4: the first round. A team can get that extra fifth
Speaker 4: year option on a quarterback, which I think Tyler Shuck
Speaker 4: will be forty forty years old when his fifth year
Speaker 4: option comes up to you, right, if a team fell
Speaker 4: in love with him, yeah, I'll tell you something that
Speaker 4: makes it. It made me feel really old that I
Speaker 4: just realized the other day Tyler Shuck will be the
Speaker 4: last player in the NFL Draft ever that was born
Speaker 4: in the nineties to be tre Wow said he was
Speaker 4: born September twenty sixth of nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: He's a COVID COVID baby.
Speaker 1: He's right.
Speaker 2: If if I'm the front office, I'm looking at one team,
Speaker 2: I'm about to let Cleveland Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let them do what they do.
Speaker 2: I see them taking Travis Hunt at number two in
Speaker 2: them scrambling to get back at the bottom of the
Speaker 2: first round to get either Jackson Dort whoever that's available
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. I'm waiting on a call from
Speaker 2: Cleveland and I want to trade down. I want the
Speaker 2: second pick. A real to me, their second round pick
Speaker 2: is really a first round pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I was gonna ask you, Jeremy, what's
Speaker 1: your grade on the quarterback? Because this is something I
Speaker 1: keep coming back to, So like, what's your great on
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck? What's your great on Jackson Dart? Because when
Speaker 1: I look at them, I'm like, I didn't have I
Speaker 1: like Jackson Dart, I didn't have a first round greade
Speaker 1: on him. I like Tyler Shuck, I didn't have a
Speaker 1: first round great on him. And I'm not an NFL GM,
Speaker 1: I'm not an NFL executive. I know that most teams
Speaker 1: aren't going to have first round grades on them, Like,
Speaker 1: so why would I trade up for a quarterback? Even
Speaker 1: even shudre centers?
Speaker 3: If yeas worth talking about?
Speaker 5: So the Lions, the Ravens, the Rams, the Texans, they're
Speaker 5: all ahead of us, and they don't have to get
Speaker 5: a quarterback. Do you think that, like we have to
Speaker 5: get lucky that no team is trying to jump us there? Like,
Speaker 5: how possible is it that at twenty nine there's a
Speaker 5: team that hasn't already moved up above us.
Speaker 3: Because let's go with the start with the Texans.
Speaker 2: The Texans they got hos to field on their roster,
Speaker 2: So they'll be like I have to get a first
Speaker 2: round talent either offensive line, either lineback, or either defensive back.
Speaker 2: All right, then you look at the the Rams. They're
Speaker 2: trying to infuse their team with you because they lost
Speaker 2: a lot of the older players. I don't think they
Speaker 2: move out of twenty six. The Ravens, that's who we
Speaker 2: got to worry about, because they are a team. If
Speaker 2: like let's just say they want to pair up safety
Speaker 2: from South Carolina with Kyle Hamilton and he's not there,
Speaker 2: they'll trade down them and Detroit out of two teams.
Speaker 2: I think we got worried about when they comes to
Speaker 2: trading out of that.
Speaker 1: But also say what you want, Like what you said
Speaker 1: about Houston, La Baltimore and the Detroit LANs is true.
Speaker 1: But what Jeremy said about the draft is also true.
Speaker 1: Like between ten and probably fifty five, the grades are
Speaker 1: approximately the same. Yeah, they know that, they know that
Speaker 1: more picks in that area are more valuable. So like
Speaker 1: to me, it's what's true for us is also true
Speaker 1: for them. Like if Houston trades down, they could get
Speaker 1: Arion te Eerstrg in the second round and somebody else,
Speaker 1: Like there's not this crazy, Like, yes, obviously, like Josh
Speaker 1: Simmons at twenty five would be fantastic for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like he's got some character stuff coming out, he's
Speaker 1: got the injury thing working through. So that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I look at that and I'm like, whatever is true
Speaker 1: for us about trading back is also true for all
Speaker 1: of them, probably up to i'd say twenty two. With
Speaker 1: the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well guess what you can give us less at
Speaker 2: twenty nine, then you got to give up at twenty five.
Speaker 1: Screwpoint.
Speaker 4: It is definitely the last the two teams in front
Speaker 4: of you that I think you really have to watch.
Speaker 4: Minnesota only has four picks in this draft. If Minnesota
Speaker 4: can trade down, they will.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The other one is the Rams. If Jackson Dart's not
Speaker 4: on the board, I now Jehad Campbell. If that shoulder
Speaker 4: injury pushes him down, they would take him at twenty six.
Speaker 4: If there's no Campbell and no Dart, I think the
Speaker 4: Rams moved down.
Speaker 1: Do you think Dark goes in the first round though,
Speaker 1: I know I know you liked him, Jeremy, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: think he goes in the first round.
Speaker 4: I have him right behind cam Wartons. So cam Worton's
Speaker 4: my twenty seven overall, Jackson Dart's my forty, Shadour is
Speaker 4: my seventy eight, and Tyler Shuck is my eighty one.
Speaker 3: Can y'all agree with this on Shaduur? All right? I
Speaker 3: came up.
Speaker 2: I came out with a quarterback that everybody said it
Speaker 2: was small, arm was weak, and he was achery.
Speaker 3: And that's Drew Brees all right.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: When I look at Shaduur play the game, he played
Speaker 2: it just like Drew Brees played it at Purdue. He
Speaker 2: went out there and he was the only reason Purdue one,
Speaker 2: just like shad was the only reason Colorado won besides
Speaker 2: Travis Henry, I mean Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is when I see the DNA
Speaker 2: should do I do see a lot of Drew Brees,
Speaker 2: not the best athlete in the world, more rebel player
Speaker 2: than a physical player. They literally don't throw over the
Speaker 2: line of screamers. They throw in between linemen. All right, So,
Speaker 2: and the accuracy is there. Do you hold the ball sometime?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But he got to be coached up like everybody else
Speaker 2: in his league. I just think it's more to should
Speaker 2: do it than people leave.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: Shader is one of the most interesting emails I've ever had,
Speaker 4: because if he went in the second round, I would
Speaker 4: say his bust potential probably gets cut into a quarter.
Speaker 4: The problem is he's going to go in the top twenty.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's been coached well. This is not
Speaker 4: a shot at Dion. My office back at home is
Speaker 4: I've got a Deon Sanders helmet sitting right behind my desk.
Speaker 3: I love them.
Speaker 4: But the deal with Sean Lewis, who is the offensive
Speaker 4: coordinator at Colorado. He brought him in from Toledo or Akron.
Speaker 4: It was one of those Mexicals. He was the head coach,
Speaker 4: brought him in to be the offensive coordinator. They butted heads.
Speaker 4: He fired him basically in the middle of the year.
Speaker 4: He's now the head coach of San Diego State. It
Speaker 4: was so disjointed, and then it was Pat Shermer this
Speaker 4: past year. Jean, I don't think Sdor has been coached
Speaker 4: at a super high level. He's been coached to succeed
Speaker 4: right now, not necessarily for development over time. I would
Speaker 4: love to see Shador go to a place where he
Speaker 4: could sit back. I'd love to see him with the RAMS.
Speaker 4: I said this one hundred times if he goes to
Speaker 4: LA and he can sit behind Stafford for two years,
Speaker 4: he will be a really good player in this league.
Speaker 4: I'm afraid he's going to go to the Giants and
Speaker 4: he's going to be the lifeline of Brian dabol He's
Speaker 4: the He's the kid that couples have to keep the
Speaker 4: divorce from happening, and that is a terrible situation for him.
Speaker 3: He might have got Travis Hunter with.
Speaker 2: I also like him at Pittsburgh because I think if
Speaker 2: you get with a franchise, it's bigger than the player,
Speaker 2: it's more surrounded with the coach and more of a
Speaker 2: running game and play good defense. I think he survives
Speaker 2: in an organization like that.
Speaker 3: Newsburg is hammered on Milrow.
Speaker 1: Oh are they?
Speaker 4: I don't know why. I don't ask me to explain that.
Speaker 4: This is one of those times that I'm only I
Speaker 4: can only give the information, I cannot explain it. So
Speaker 4: you agree with me that meal Rose is a Jalen
Speaker 4: Hurst that can't throw. Jalen Milroe had the worst. He's
Speaker 4: the only quarterback I've been doing this almost fifteen years.
Speaker 4: He's the only quarterback who I've ever turned off the
Speaker 4: tape and going I don't need to watch anymore. The
Speaker 4: Vandermilt tape was enough for me to know it was
Speaker 4: terror Leta learned to fly in week ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still don't care. Yeah, listen, I totally understand.
Speaker 2: He has to go to a spot where he's sitting
Speaker 2: behind a guy and he's not forced to play for
Speaker 2: two years. That's the perfect set up for Meal Roads,
Speaker 2: Like he has to go maybe to the Raiders and
Speaker 2: sit behind Geno, but he has to do something where
Speaker 2: he just he's preparing to come out.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that's true of all the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks outside of Kim Wharton. I think Kim Word could
Speaker 1: come in and play your one. It's not gonna pretty,
Speaker 1: but I think you could do it. But I think
Speaker 1: I'd like I'd like Jackson Dark to sit and study.
Speaker 1: I'd like Schador Sanders to sit and study. I'd like
Speaker 1: Shuck to sit and study for a year or two
Speaker 1: and again, like, I just think that's the best kind
Speaker 1: of developmental arc for some of these guys. The problem is,
Speaker 1: like Jeremy was saying, like, if you get picked in
Speaker 1: the first round, like you gotta play, you gotta play.
Speaker 4: You gotta play a good headache that we don't probably
Speaker 4: sitting for two years as he'll be qualified for aar Yeah,
Speaker 4: he don't have that time.
Speaker 5: A good problem we don't have to deal with because
Speaker 5: we have Jade and Daniels. Quarterback is not a headache
Speaker 5: that we're going to have. But let's get on track
Speaker 5: here with the mock draft and get going real quickly
Speaker 5: before we go, quick answer from everybody around Logan will
Speaker 5: start with you any world where you're trading up, Probably.
Speaker 1: Not, I mean for what I don't think so, Like
Speaker 1: someone asked me the other day, like on my board,
Speaker 1: like Derek Harmon is a top I think he's like
Speaker 1: he's a second tier player, so top fifteen kind of
Speaker 1: guy for me. If he were to slide, like take
Speaker 1: a big slide and maybe trade up, but again, like
Speaker 1: for a defensive tackle, I don't know if it'd be
Speaker 1: worth it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you're saying if, like if we do do
Speaker 5: if we do trade up, then for the evaluation that's
Speaker 5: in the draft room, is this guy.
Speaker 1: Is amazing amazing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to motivate it because if we're trading up,
Speaker 3: we got to give up something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got to give up something we have
Speaker 2: to replace whatever we're giving up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm not drating up under any circumstances.
Speaker 3: I don't care if somebody says.
Speaker 4: We will give you twenty one for twenty nine and
Speaker 4: any pick you have, even the seventh rounder, that's.
Speaker 3: Too much for me. Yeah, I'm good. I don't want
Speaker 3: to lose any more picks.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's very likely. But I again, like
Speaker 1: if there's like, if you have somebody, I mean maybe Jeremy,
Speaker 1: you can speak to this. If you have somebody that
Speaker 1: you have a high grade, yeah, super high grade, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sliding down the board and you're like, we have to
Speaker 1: have him. Maybe. But again, like I think, I think
Speaker 1: last year out of Peters did a great job letting
Speaker 1: the draft come to him. You get you on miyakey,
Speaker 1: like being patient. I think this year is going to
Speaker 1: be extremely important.
Speaker 6: And I think that's what we're going to be. We
Speaker 6: have no adoption, all right, so let's get go in here.
Speaker 6: I'm going to hit the start on the mock draft
Speaker 6: simulator here. It's on turbo, so we won't really see
Speaker 6: exactly it gets picked ahead of us unless.
Speaker 5: We scroll up. All right, So I'm in control of
Speaker 5: this little board here, So just whoever wants to start off,
Speaker 5: just tell me where to go out. I'll cycle through
Speaker 5: these so you can see it on the screen.
Speaker 1: Can Jeremy see it.
Speaker 5: Jeremy can see it. Yeah, our audience can't see it.
Speaker 5: This is audio only, so we'll just have to talk
Speaker 5: through it. When you see a player, just please list
Speaker 5: a school position name right, just to help them out.
Speaker 1: Yes, the top five players on the board right now
Speaker 1: are Luther Burton, the third from Missouri, o Marion Hampton
Speaker 1: from North Carolina, Grey's Abel from North Dakota State, Trey Amos,
Speaker 1: the quarterback from Mississippi, and Nick s Gordon the defensive
Speaker 1: end from Texas A and M. And so there are
Speaker 1: some other guys there, but I don't know. I look
Speaker 1: at that if those are the top five players available, like,
Speaker 1: I think Grey's Abel here would be a tremendous fit
Speaker 1: for this team. You know, you can put them in
Speaker 1: at left guard. I think he's got a really nice upside.
Speaker 1: I also really really like Omrion Hampton. It feels a
Speaker 1: little bit written for a running back given how deep
Speaker 1: it is. But to me, and this is the other
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say this about Tremos, like you got
Speaker 1: me turned on a tree, Amos Fred like his ball skills,
Speaker 1: his size I think important. So I like all three
Speaker 1: of those players there, Jeremy, I don't know. Do you
Speaker 1: see somebody else in there that you you like?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Is this an acceptable time to just go ditto everything
Speaker 4: you just said?
Speaker 3: Now? Now I do have a I have a preference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, what's your preference?
Speaker 4: So if Ashton Genty fell to twenty nine, would you
Speaker 4: happily take him and say that's not too rich for
Speaker 4: a running back?
Speaker 2: I take, I would trade up. I wouldn't trade up
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. I would trade up for you.
Speaker 1: So this is how I feel about Amaron Hampton, Like,
Speaker 1: I think I really like a Marion Hampton as a
Speaker 1: playmaking running back.
Speaker 3: Do you got any come anybody that's me?
Speaker 1: He reminds me a little bit like Eddie George, kind
Speaker 1: of like that kind of bigger upright running stoff and
Speaker 1: don't you can hit the home run? And and I think,
Speaker 1: I think I know where you're going with this, Jeremy,
Speaker 1: Like the difference between gent and Amaron Hampton isn't as
Speaker 1: big as I think people making. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: Genty I.
Speaker 4: Go one step Further, I don't just think there's not
Speaker 4: a difference between the two.
Speaker 3: I have Hampton ahead of you.
Speaker 1: Dude, look at this maniac. You're a mania.
Speaker 2: No no, yeah, listen, you'll see t must be aking
Speaker 2: up because no, like one day I can say about
Speaker 2: Geny his game breaking ability, but a Marion Hampton man,
Speaker 2: Mario Hampton to me, a Mario Hampton. We do this
Speaker 2: all the time, we fall in love with. How different
Speaker 2: is a Mario Hampton A Marion Hampton. Yeah, Marion Hampton
Speaker 2: than Dalen Sims.
Speaker 1: I think he's He's way bigger, He's way bigger. I
Speaker 1: think he catches the ball better. I mean I like
Speaker 1: doing I like doing SAMs.
Speaker 2: Way better than pass Bro. So you're telling me he's
Speaker 2: just bigger and he blocks better.
Speaker 1: And he's contact balance is crazy.
Speaker 3: It's a good point.
Speaker 4: Though, So we're I'm an affiliate of North Carolina, so
Speaker 4: I've I've literally watched every snap of Marion Hampton has
Speaker 4: ever played. And before anybody says that that makes me
Speaker 4: biased towards them, look where I have every other Carolina guy.
Speaker 4: This team took years off my life and aided in
Speaker 4: my drinking addiction because they made my head hurt a lot.
Speaker 4: Marion Hampton is the best pass protection running back in
Speaker 4: this class. I don't even think that's debatable. He is
Speaker 4: a high end pass catcher. And now I will ask
Speaker 4: you this question about gent Genty played in the Mountain West,
Speaker 4: in the nil Ah. He played a bunch of against
Speaker 4: a bunch of guys that are going to be insurance
Speaker 4: salesman in three in three weeks married Hampton. He played
Speaker 4: the acc which is not markedly better. Watch the Florida
Speaker 4: State tape. Florida State was not a good team this year.
Speaker 4: I just watched State. I watched that game last night.
Speaker 2: Can't I can't blame that on Genty because the one
Speaker 2: thing we know, if you are running back, you're a
Speaker 2: prisoner to your officive line his office live wouldn't messure
Speaker 2: up to anybody individual one football compare it to a
Speaker 2: Florida State. So I'm always one of these guys. I'm
Speaker 2: a component of the guy that made more with less.
Speaker 2: That's who I want on my team when it comes
Speaker 2: to the pros. That's why I don't like quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: come from Alabama. I don't like quarterbacks that come from
Speaker 2: Ohio State.
Speaker 3: They dodn't had.
Speaker 2: Number one draft picks around him to tie your time.
Speaker 2: I like guys that uplift the school, and I feel
Speaker 2: like this is what gent died.
Speaker 4: So the other thing I want to get did the
Speaker 4: same thing. Yeah, no quarterback and no wide receivers this
Speaker 4: past year.
Speaker 1: I agree, Hampton's a good football player, and I guess
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Fred, But the thing I would say
Speaker 1: too is the thing that I have a hard time
Speaker 1: with the running back in the first round is contract value.
Speaker 1: So you got to pay guards now twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 1: You got to pay outside corners thirty million dollars, And
Speaker 1: let's talk about I think Gray's Abel is probably he's
Speaker 1: definitely in that top three group of guards for me, Like,
Speaker 1: I really like Jackson from Ohio State, and Grey's Abel
Speaker 1: to me is right there. And then there's Booker who's
Speaker 1: right after them, right yeah, But I look at him
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, he could make a difference for
Speaker 1: this team, and it's an expensive contract, So I like,
Speaker 1: I would like this pick here quite a bit. The
Speaker 1: other thing I would say too is how good is
Speaker 1: Trey Amos and where is he in related in relation
Speaker 1: to Grey's Abel? On your big boards Fred and Jeremy.
Speaker 3: Let's go big Towele. Let's go big towel Amos.
Speaker 4: Amos has a first round great for me, Yeah me too,
Speaker 4: Zabel does too. If I get into positional value and
Speaker 4: math is not necessarily my strong suit, So doing the
Speaker 4: math off on this off the top of my head
Speaker 4: is probably not going to happen. Zabel, Disabel's my twenty
Speaker 4: Amos is my twenty four corner, I would say, is
Speaker 4: thinner in this class, the guard I would I said
Speaker 4: all that about Marion Hampton and the last line of
Speaker 4: that was going to be I still live by the
Speaker 4: philosophy of I cannot take a running back in the
Speaker 4: first round, especially not in the best running back class
Speaker 4: I've ever seen. Yeah, I love Zabel, do not get
Speaker 4: me wrong. I think if you don't take Trey Amos,
Speaker 4: even though you sign Jonathan Jones, that allows you to
Speaker 4: put to push Mikey back into the slot. Amos can
Speaker 4: play on the outside. He's zone man fluid, he can
Speaker 4: do both. Yeah, I was afraid he was only a
Speaker 4: man guy. Then I and plays zone it all this
Speaker 4: and when he ain't got better at that every week.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, most would be.
Speaker 3: Beating the table for Amus. Yeah, mostly what about edge.
Speaker 5: We haven't talked about edge yet and that was a
Speaker 5: big need.
Speaker 1: So I love Nick Gordon. I think he plays super hard.
Speaker 1: I like his Purdue film. I think he's a physical
Speaker 1: football player. I think he's a fringe first round player.
Speaker 1: I think he is a commander.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But.
Speaker 1: In terms of like so like, this is tough for
Speaker 1: me because I love Nick Gordon, I love Landon Jackson.
Speaker 3: My grandma said everything, I got the word, but it's bs.
Speaker 1: But are they gonna make the same difference to this
Speaker 1: team that Trey Amos would make. I don't know, especially
Speaker 1: with j T. Twomlaal floating around a fifty.
Speaker 5: Six, I'm going to say I get the same man
Speaker 5: thinking again at sixty one, So you think maybe the
Speaker 5: depth to edge you're going again.
Speaker 2: He's actually very good when they when they when they
Speaker 2: dropped him into his own coverages.
Speaker 3: But he's better than any of.
Speaker 1: The I think that. The point that I'm going to
Speaker 1: take away, and this is why Jeremy's on the show
Speaker 1: is because he's a smart guy, is when he says
Speaker 1: the cornerback depth in this class is a little bit
Speaker 1: scary to me. So, oh, I'm pretty confident we can
Speaker 1: get an edge later. I'm pretty confident we could get
Speaker 1: a guard later if we wanted to running back, running
Speaker 1: back later for sure. And again the contract value here
Speaker 1: for the corner, this seems like the right pick. And
Speaker 1: you know, I was a little on the fence about Tremos.
Speaker 1: We talked about it, we discussed it, and I think
Speaker 1: the ball skills, I think the size, I think the scheme, versatility.
Speaker 3: Is reveil gone, Reveiled is gone.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's at. He might be lower
Speaker 1: on this board actually, but but I think Tremos right
Speaker 1: now based on the people here. I don't know, Jeremy,
Speaker 1: you can he feels like the pick to me.
Speaker 4: He does feel like the pick to me. I'm curious
Speaker 4: if Revel's here too. I love Savone Revel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's Dan Queen equations and
Speaker 2: I think he eels with Dan Queen.
Speaker 3: He's already going, you.
Speaker 1: Know, he's on forty he's forty four. Again, like I
Speaker 1: have a higher grade on Savone Revel than I mean,
Speaker 1: I got to have great. But again there's question marks,
Speaker 1: the injury kind of some of the change directions.
Speaker 2: But I what makes that makes him more intriguing to me,
Speaker 2: Like this is why I say he is to me.
Speaker 2: And he's a fast version of Richis Sherman. He he
Speaker 2: lives here on the draft board.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's a fast version of Richis Sherman. You
Speaker 2: cannot beat that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it's almost more interesting of do you
Speaker 4: want to go Amos or Revel than if you want
Speaker 4: to go Amos h, Marion Hampton or yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Revel will also be the first player in NFL history
Speaker 4: to have ever played for the same coach that I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Kids said was my coach? Oh really East Carolina? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So does the age with Ravel worry anybody? He's twenty
Speaker 1: four years old? No, a little bit older.
Speaker 3: Not when very importive on what is he thirty?
Speaker 2: Like we're in this time where it's old draftees just
Speaker 2: get used to it. You just get used to it.
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not running away from age right now.
Speaker 3: I'm not running away from age.
Speaker 1: And again, Benjamin Morris is on this list, but the
Speaker 1: hip injury is kind of crazy. Exwell, Harrison's also interesting.
Speaker 1: Wait what is Haro on FI? You? I mean those
Speaker 1: are good three good corners.
Speaker 4: Right there, But you're not in love with love the
Speaker 4: twenty three type. Last year's was a bad enough for
Speaker 4: me to go. I can't take him over Amus or Rebel.
Speaker 1: I agree, but I think he's got he's a good
Speaker 1: football players. What I'm saying, like, in in the right system,
Speaker 1: Revel to me is the third guy on my board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I want to take him. He's forty four here,
Speaker 1: and I think this is a really good illustration of
Speaker 1: the differences of opinion. Right in this draft, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get guys that hate Shavone Revel, You're gonna get guys
Speaker 1: that love Shavone Revel. And this is I've never been
Speaker 1: in a draft or covered a draft where it's been this.
Speaker 3: Nobody sees on the same lift, correct.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm the one that asked to push the
Speaker 5: button to draft this guy. So let's go through. Tell
Speaker 5: me who you want to pick? Just you, We don't
Speaker 5: have to make a consensus yet, just you your elevator pitch.
Speaker 5: Who should I pick?
Speaker 1: Here? I'm gonna go Shavone Revel because I think he's
Speaker 1: got the height, he's got the size, he's got the length,
Speaker 1: he's got the competitive toughness. I think when you watch
Speaker 1: him play big football games, he rises to the ocasion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think when he gets targeted, he doesn't shy away
Speaker 1: from getting targeted. He's got that competitive dog in him.
Speaker 1: Are there issues with the game, Yeah, there's issues with
Speaker 1: all of these little bit of stiffness. But I think
Speaker 1: he's a good tackler. Fred knows how much I love
Speaker 1: the corners to tackle. I think there's an urgency to
Speaker 1: him that I don't see with Treemos, so I'd probably
Speaker 1: go revel here.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I hate to agree with Logan,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna be forced to agree with Logan because
Speaker 2: the one thing Ravel does do is play with the intensity.
Speaker 3: He does play with urgency.
Speaker 2: And I have never seen a guy pickoff crossing routes
Speaker 2: over and over. It's one of the hardest routes for
Speaker 2: us to literally pick off, and he routinely picks him off.
Speaker 2: So this shows his closing ability. And guess what, the
Speaker 2: one thing I do love with six y three corners.
Speaker 2: You can't throw faate routes on. You couldn't throw faate
Speaker 2: routes on Richard Sherman. You won't be throw faate routes
Speaker 2: on this guy. So now he only has to check
Speaker 2: seven routes. I'm going with Ravel right here. That's my pig, all.
Speaker 5: Right, Jeremy.
Speaker 4: I did not know Revel was still on the board
Speaker 4: when I was waxing poetic about Trey Hamas. So I
Speaker 4: will keep everything I said about Trey Amos and say
Speaker 4: I like Ravel better. I agree with these guys. Look,
Speaker 4: the injury doesn't bother me that much. We're at a
Speaker 4: point where I'm not going to say I don't worry
Speaker 4: about ACL injuries. I do, obviously, I just don't worry
Speaker 4: about them in twenty twenty five nearly as much as
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: In two thousand and five. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've also heard you know through the grapevine that
Speaker 4: he seems to be in great shape. I love his story.
Speaker 4: I don't know how much you guys know of his story. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I knew this kid was. He was an academic non qualifier.
Speaker 4: He and his dad were working together at an Amazon
Speaker 4: delivery everywhere else.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: His dad drove him to a camp at ECU, and
Speaker 4: Mike Houston and Blake Harrold saw him at the camp
Speaker 4: and went, we have to get.
Speaker 3: That kid academic when qualified to play here.
Speaker 4: Then he goes to ECU, has that huge ear, starts
Speaker 4: getting crazy and I'll offers from every major school and stuff.
Speaker 4: You didn't believe in me when they did. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: staying here. Yeah, I love the kid.
Speaker 3: I'm all went on Revel. That's a command the story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he plays with that edge.
Speaker 3: Quinn qualified, like that's what he is.
Speaker 1: And just to be clear, like tram Will's a good
Speaker 1: football player. So if they do pick Tramos at twenty nine,
Speaker 1: we're excited, right, We're excited for all these guys.
Speaker 2: But it's a win win. Let's understand, it's a win win.
Speaker 2: It's all about going to all you can eat buffet.
Speaker 2: What do you what's your preference, Like, what do you
Speaker 2: feel like eating today? Like I just know coach Quinn
Speaker 2: and when I look between Trey Amos, he could be
Speaker 2: kind of casual. Yeah, and I don't think Quinn likes that.
Speaker 2: And I just think when he sees Revel, that's what
Speaker 2: he likes.
Speaker 3: That's who he is.
Speaker 5: So with the twenty ninth pick in our mock draft,
Speaker 5: Washing Commanders are selecting Shavin Revel Corner from East Carolina.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I live by the philosophy of which player
Speaker 4: can you take that? Five teams behind you were going
Speaker 4: to scream obscenities when they say the name drafted.
Speaker 3: I think it's reveled.
Speaker 1: Love it. I like that.
Speaker 5: Actually, when other teams are upset that you took a pick,
Speaker 5: like when the Cowboys do it, it makes me really
Speaker 5: upset and I'm like, damn, that must be a good pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they take a player that does it, like Ceede Lamb. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they took ceed Lamb.
Speaker 2: I was like, God, how people feel like that? When
Speaker 2: we took Mikey Sammers Steel last Ye Steel, people were like, oh,
Speaker 2: like we want these guys. So yeah, totally that what
Speaker 2: you mean.
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Speaker 1: at sixty one here. Trey Harris is off the board,
Speaker 1: Arianta Erstrie off the board, Ari Thomas off the board,
Speaker 1: Tate Ratleige, Mason Taylor, Kevin Winston Junior, Prince Euman Yellon
Speaker 1: all off the board. Kind of a little bit of
Speaker 1: run on edge rushers. There some good football players gone,
Speaker 1: but I'm looking here in like the best available player
Speaker 1: in terms of guys available right now, according to PFF,
Speaker 1: Omar Norman Lot, who I'm I'm ready to fight all
Speaker 1: of you for this pick right here? Oh my Norman
Speaker 1: Lot defensive tackle from Tennessee, alec Al You Maynor from
Speaker 1: Stanford Maynard. This is my guy, Cam Scattaboo from Arizona State,
Speaker 1: Demetrius Knight and heck of a football player from South Carolina,
Speaker 1: and then t J. Sanders, defensive tackle from So did you.
Speaker 3: Move down a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got We.
Speaker 1: Got Dylan Simpson also running back from Tennessee. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of really good football players guys that I'm
Speaker 1: excited about. But I don't know. I love Omar Norman Lot.
Speaker 1: Have you watched the NC State game with Omar Norman Lot, Jeremy,
Speaker 1: do you watch that game? I have.
Speaker 4: Norman Lott's one of those guys that and I've said
Speaker 4: this about Piers too. I think the way Tennessee did
Speaker 4: their rotations hurt some of these guys.
Speaker 3: I mean because they basically.
Speaker 4: Did like hockey shifts, yeah, where you would get four
Speaker 4: new guys on the line. So I mean you look
Speaker 4: at Pierce's snap count or Norman lott snap count. I mean,
Speaker 4: these guys only probably like four hundred snaps and tread
Speaker 4: still left on the tires.
Speaker 3: The only thing that scares me a little bit.
Speaker 4: About Norman Lot is that a knee injury popped at
Speaker 4: the combine. And when I heard it, I started thinking
Speaker 4: back to I mean, I live very close to Tennessee,
Speaker 4: so I'm pretty close to the to the program. I
Speaker 4: remember him going out with knee things. It wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 4: knock him out of a game. It would just knock
Speaker 4: him out of a drive. And I remembered that, and
Speaker 4: that started to scare me. I will not fight you
Speaker 4: on Norman Lot.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily know that that's a positional need. And
Speaker 4: when I'm looking at eye you manor I'm looking at
Speaker 4: Demetrius Night, who I think a year from now could
Speaker 4: replace Bobby Wagner. And I don't know that there would
Speaker 4: be a huge drop off, there would be in leadership,
Speaker 4: not necessarily employer. I have Night in the top thirty,
Speaker 4: so I'm higher on him than probably anybody.
Speaker 1: I think he's my fifty forty ninth player or something
Speaker 1: like that. So I really like him too. I really
Speaker 1: like Ohmre Norman lot I like Collins from Texas, Alfred Collins.
Speaker 1: He's wailer on this sport. And again, those defensive tackles
Speaker 1: maybe aren't a true need, but man, I think, oh more,
Speaker 1: Norman lot Is has the potential to be the best
Speaker 1: pass rushing interior player. And you know, Fred, You're talking
Speaker 1: about guys creating pressure from the a gamp. And I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit lower on alec Au Maynor. I think
Speaker 1: he's a little bit stiff. I've talked to Jason about
Speaker 1: this a lot. It makes me a little bit nervous
Speaker 1: about his play. But Demitius Knight, I love him. I
Speaker 1: think he the way he plays screams commander. His leadership
Speaker 1: style screams commander. My only question is it sixty one?
Speaker 1: Is that too high to take a linebacker and interior linebacker.
Speaker 3: The other two. If you like him, you love them,
Speaker 3: you'd I have the probat linebacker this y. Yeah. Can
Speaker 3: I try to sway you on l alu Manor go
Speaker 3: for it? Yeah? I tried to do it too. I
Speaker 3: love him and I love him.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: How many games of competitive football has elk al you
Speaker 4: Manor played in his life?
Speaker 1: It's a good question, actually, because he didn't. He didn't
Speaker 1: play a lot in high school, right, he was like
Speaker 1: a Canadian transfer four.
Speaker 4: Games in high school. Yeah, because he got hurt twice. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he came to America. He's a Canadian kid. He came
Speaker 4: to America with I call it the Canadian Exchange program
Speaker 4: because I don't know what it was called, but they
Speaker 4: brought him to America. He played in a high school
Speaker 4: in New Jersey. He got hurt in the summer his
Speaker 4: junior year, came back, I think, played a game, got
Speaker 4: hurt again, and then played three his senior year. He's
Speaker 4: played thirty one games of competitive football in his entire life.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go to receiver, guys. Let's let's a receiver
Speaker 1: else is available here.
Speaker 4: I think that's why you see him as so stiff
Speaker 4: as because he's still learning the position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he still learn a position. He's raw, but he
Speaker 2: got all the tools that you need. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: got the frame. He's a true ax it, he'll be
Speaker 2: a true.
Speaker 1: I mean he's by far the best. I mean, I
Speaker 1: like Jalen Royals a lot, but I like so the
Speaker 1: receivers available according to pff R Alecaumin or Jalen Royals,
Speaker 1: who I think is a good player, Xavier or Streppo,
Speaker 1: who I think after running a four eight is not.
Speaker 3: He's as fast as you logan. We want to know
Speaker 3: is playing people to keep him in the top one hundred.
Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, be in the top one hundred of Florida
Speaker 4: of receivers from the state of Florida for me at
Speaker 4: this point.
Speaker 2: And then zaba Is Johnson also doing a good job
Speaker 2: of standing up there because.
Speaker 1: His film's good. So Xavier and Williams, I haven't actually
Speaker 1: a film. I actually have him as a running back
Speaker 1: as Isaiah Tesla, I like a lot. But the guy
Speaker 1: on this list that speaks to me, that speaks to
Speaker 1: the receiver in me is Troy Horton from Colorado State. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's a receivers receiver. I love Tes Johnson, like,
Speaker 1: so this to me, like again, like this is the
Speaker 1: hard part about doing it on PFF is I have
Speaker 1: a higher grade on Troy Horton. I think he's a
Speaker 1: better football player than alec au Manor right now, and
Speaker 1: again I agree with Jeremy that there's probably upside play
Speaker 1: without value men or in terms of right now, like
Speaker 1: that's the guy that I would go with. And again
Speaker 1: he's one twelve on this board. It seems a little
Speaker 1: bit low to me at the moment, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's my sure.
Speaker 2: I just think truly thinking about this roster, thinking about
Speaker 2: the guys that's available, the guys that's left. I know
Speaker 2: y'all not gonna agree with this one, but I sell
Speaker 2: it now. I can sell water to a well I
Speaker 2: check this out. We got Elijah Auroral Now, I like
Speaker 2: him as a true whippon at the tight end from Miami.
Speaker 2: Add him to this roster, letting him learn from zach Ertz.
Speaker 2: I think you planning the future seed there with a
Speaker 2: guy that I can use this year in a couple
Speaker 2: of packages. I think I think I think he gives
Speaker 2: safeties hell. I think he gives linebackers hell. I just
Speaker 2: think he is. He reminds me, you're gonna love this
Speaker 2: one of a faster Chris Cooley. Now serious, he reminds
Speaker 2: me of a faster Chris Cooley. Like Cooley was always
Speaker 2: one of them guys, even if I was studying my
Speaker 2: own teammate. You worry how do he get opened so much?
Speaker 2: And he has the little sub of teas about him
Speaker 2: that he would look like he's literally falling out of
Speaker 2: his break and he will come clean. So I'm all
Speaker 2: in on a roar. I would take tight end over
Speaker 2: received with their off of just value.
Speaker 1: To this team. Yeah, but then I look to your point,
Speaker 1: Alec Elijah Royo injury History one year of production. I
Speaker 1: look at Terrence Ferguson, love him, Harold Finn and Junior
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I'm on the fence about him.
Speaker 3: Bad body. Let me say what you guys say.
Speaker 1: About a bad body. Just frolled down a little bit, dude,
Speaker 1: I tell you, did I tell you that I watched
Speaker 1: Mitch Evans the other day.
Speaker 3: Jeremy, you did? Did you fall in love with him?
Speaker 1: I fell in love with him. I fell in love
Speaker 1: with him. I think he's a heck of a football
Speaker 1: player and he made my top one high.
Speaker 4: Mitchell is so a few years ago when the Ravens
Speaker 4: took Mark Andrews and Hayden Hurst, I absolutely killed the
Speaker 4: Hurst pick. And I said in my draft grade that year,
Speaker 4: you draft today starting dot in. You just did it
Speaker 4: in the third round, not first. And he reminds me
Speaker 4: he's got that nuance that that Andrews had. He's not
Speaker 4: athletic really at all. Yeah, but he can get open
Speaker 4: in this league. He's big body and got really good dude.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. When I watched him, that's exactly. It reminded
Speaker 1: me so much of Mark Andrews. I was like, this
Speaker 1: guy has the ability to He's not the best athlete,
Speaker 1: but he catches the football well. He's got some some
Speaker 1: good kind of snaky type feel. So. But I but
Speaker 1: my point is with tight end, I think there's guys
Speaker 1: later that you get. We're on offensive line here, and
Speaker 1: a guy that I really am very very.
Speaker 3: High on is Joanna mak his Imbo.
Speaker 1: I like him, no, but I was gonna say Jonah
Speaker 1: son of Aea from Arizona as a guard to me
Speaker 1: seems like really good value. I like him a lot.
Speaker 1: I like Ozzie Trapillo as well, but I think this
Speaker 1: is I think they have him as eighty six here
Speaker 1: Jeremy on this board. That seems a little bit low
Speaker 1: for me. What do you feel about Jonah son of Aea?
Speaker 4: Savanya is one of the at least for me, he
Speaker 4: almost looks like a Madden created player. Yes, because nobody
Speaker 4: that big should be able to move the way he does.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: The problem that I have is, Okay, so he's that big,
Speaker 4: why is he not stronger than he It's a good point.
Speaker 3: Because he gets beat we get into one one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when when when we're in tight and I think
Speaker 4: he's a guard, I con him at guard. He's okay
Speaker 4: with him here at sixty one as a guard. I
Speaker 4: just see him in short area. He's gonna come up
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to think of the best example of
Speaker 4: who I can say anyone, and I know it's a.
Speaker 3: Guy you like.
Speaker 4: He comes up against Land and Jackson, and Land and
Speaker 4: Jackson is going to throw him around like a rag doll.
Speaker 4: It's a good point, but I do like him a
Speaker 4: lot as a guard.
Speaker 3: I like Marcus. I say, is he medic convicting? Is
Speaker 3: he more of I got this size? Won't you just
Speaker 3: move me inside and let me thry.
Speaker 1: I think that's it.
Speaker 5: But so why I'm just asking questions here, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Uh so we looked at our Marion Hampton, he's gone, right,
Speaker 5: Why are we not looking at running back?
Speaker 3: Because we still don't get a guy.
Speaker 5: It's too deep and you're not getting a top tier
Speaker 5: right one of your done here.
Speaker 4: I want to get into that double of Giddins and r. J.
Speaker 4: Harvey so we can argue about which one of those
Speaker 4: we like one hundred times.
Speaker 1: So for this pick, I'm I'm one hundred thousand percent.
Speaker 1: Oh my Norman lot like there's like I I that's
Speaker 1: what I want. I know it's not a need. I
Speaker 1: think he's a disruptive, dynamic football player, and I think
Speaker 1: he could be the best pass rushing interior player. Fred,
Speaker 1: you were just talking about how important defensive tackle pass rushes.
Speaker 3: We have a guy we just signed kid, which I
Speaker 3: don't care say it.
Speaker 1: We're drafting best player available. He's the best player available.
Speaker 5: We have to talk about edge. Can we just go
Speaker 5: through some of the edges for the people?
Speaker 2: You can plain that for no, he can literally play.
Speaker 2: Kyle Cannard is actually somebody, don't I mean, people talk
Speaker 2: a lot about because I think he get overshined by
Speaker 2: the middle lineback and a couple of more guys in
Speaker 2: your own defense. But I think he could play.
Speaker 1: Offso yeah, what you got?
Speaker 4: I like Canard was he was a transfer into South
Speaker 4: Carolina and he won both places that he was.
Speaker 3: Can I make a pitch on a guy?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, here what we got?
Speaker 3: What you got? Just Sia Stewart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at sixty one, all right, let me let me,
Speaker 4: let me. I'll just make the pick because you're not
Speaker 4: gonna get him at one twenty eight.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when we're picking.
Speaker 4: If dan Quinn was not the coach of the Commanders,
Speaker 4: I would not be making this pitch.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to.
Speaker 4: And it's the same premise of what I told you
Speaker 4: with with Jalen Walker. Josiah Stewart wins as an EDG
Speaker 4: rusher over a twenty seven percent patch rush win rate
Speaker 4: last year. He is small. I think he plays linebacker.
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be an edge in that
Speaker 4: five man bear front and he's going to be evil
Speaker 4: to deal with because you put him out at nine
Speaker 4: tech and you've got to get a big offensive lineman
Speaker 4: that's got to get in front of that kid. If
Speaker 4: he gets his hands on him, he's gonna be in
Speaker 4: trouble because he is smaller. But I also think he
Speaker 4: can play linebacker. And I'm looking at how d Q
Speaker 4: used Micah Parson's going. He's not Micah, but he's got
Speaker 4: past rush chops that are serious.
Speaker 2: But it's so one sided with his past was compared
Speaker 2: to his run stoppability, and this is what we had
Speaker 2: good against.
Speaker 3: Let's look for its size of Yeah, for his.
Speaker 2: Size, but that's the one thing that we tried to
Speaker 2: do this off season was get bigger. We understand Philadelphia
Speaker 2: is in this division. Number one thing was to get bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I look at, like, what's the
Speaker 1: difference betwe between him and David Walker? You know, like
Speaker 1: David Walker to me is a heck of a football player,
Speaker 1: kind of undersize, brings that same stuff you got Baron
Speaker 1: Surrell later, who also has Again, I think Stuart I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, and I think he is a
Speaker 1: special pass rusher. But he also ran a four to
Speaker 1: eight at his pro day, which is a little bit
Speaker 1: slower than I'd like. But man, like, is he different
Speaker 1: than David Walker from Central Arkansas in any meaningful way.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be there later?
Speaker 3: David Walker was what's that?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 4: Girl's Sydney Sweeney, the actress. Everybody tells me how attractive
Speaker 4: she is and that I should like be in love
Speaker 4: with her, and I cannot figure out why it is
Speaker 4: that everybody's just drooling over her. That's David Walker for me.
Speaker 4: I want to love him, I really do. I went
Speaker 4: to the Senior Bowl desperately wanting to love him, and
Speaker 4: every single rep I watched I just never could find.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to.
Speaker 4: Say I don't like him. I would be looking. I
Speaker 4: think David Walker should be way closer to that picket
Speaker 4: two o five than that picket one twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I don't think he lost a
Speaker 1: rep at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3: I don't think we gonna get along on this second
Speaker 3: rap vamp. I don't think we want to be shuck.
Speaker 1: These are the guys i'd say. I'd say Omer Norman
Speaker 1: lot like I'm in on that. I think I'm in
Speaker 1: on Demetrius Nighting too, and we haven't talked about him
Speaker 1: from be Love to me. I think he's a good
Speaker 1: football peach.
Speaker 3: I think he's one player we can agree.
Speaker 1: I think he's a commander. And so if I can't
Speaker 1: see you guys on Norman lot like I think Demerius Knights.
Speaker 3: I can't believe none of y'all want to go with Aurorer.
Speaker 3: I know he.
Speaker 1: I just think there's other good tight ends. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I just don't think anything. That's where I'm at. I
Speaker 3: guess what. I don't think it's any other tight ends
Speaker 3: that do what he does.
Speaker 1: I look at Terrence Ferguson and his his rs like
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: Talk about Ferguson in the last couple of weeks. That's
Speaker 2: your dude. I know you. You want to say him
Speaker 2: to all thirty two teams. So I just think a
Speaker 2: Roarer brings the uniqueness.
Speaker 1: The injury he does.
Speaker 4: Now I will say that he's the fast without a doubt,
Speaker 4: he is the fastest tight ending in this class.
Speaker 3: He is a matchup nightmare. He's sixty five.
Speaker 4: And can fly, and he was beating corners routinely at
Speaker 4: the Singer Bowl. Now I understand what.
Speaker 2: You bring him and zach Ertz on the field at
Speaker 2: the same time, and I can move him. He can
Speaker 2: become my move tight end, and I can do things
Speaker 2: with him that I cannot do to anybody else. He's
Speaker 2: a He's one of those pieces that we have to
Speaker 2: alert on defense.
Speaker 3: Is in the game.
Speaker 1: I just look in the game. I just look at
Speaker 1: him compared to like Aronde Gadstone. I'm like, is there
Speaker 1: a huge difference between those two players? Is there a
Speaker 1: huge difference between him and Terrence Ferguson, Like, I think
Speaker 1: to meet your siting is a special football player.
Speaker 5: So we started off this conversation.
Speaker 1: It's gross, Yeah, it's true. It's it's a little bit shallow,
Speaker 1: and I think there's more tedands.
Speaker 5: We started off the conversation talking about lak a manor
Speaker 5: doesn't wide receiver? Like do you think that the wide
Speaker 5: receiver's deep enough that you could take a flyer later round?
Speaker 3: Because it's ty Fieldton To me, he's the top.
Speaker 5: One left on my board, my person.
Speaker 3: You know how I feel about him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I like him, I really do.
Speaker 2: But I'm just at one of them points where where
Speaker 2: do I want the whipping to be. Do I want
Speaker 2: to add the whipping to the outside or do I
Speaker 2: want to add the whipping to my I guess you
Speaker 2: a call to tie in to your my interior, and
Speaker 2: I would really add it to my interior.
Speaker 3: I believe I.
Speaker 2: Could find a veteran that can do what a minor
Speaker 2: can do, but I don't know if I can.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about a you Manor compared to
Speaker 3: Torry Horton.
Speaker 2: I'm in love with our Manor and I ain't never
Speaker 2: gonna say his name right, but I'm in love with
Speaker 2: him because when I first started watching him, I was like,
Speaker 2: I asked myself how much football had this guy played?
Speaker 2: I love to get players that this. It's a clean sheet, like,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have bad habits. So that's why I can
Speaker 2: tell you've been coach well. But he haven't played enough football,
Speaker 2: so I don't know.
Speaker 3: Where his ceiling is. I think he got a very
Speaker 3: very high ceiling.
Speaker 5: So with a linebacker. Now, yeah, okay, so your argument of.
Speaker 1: Before you got swift, before you go, I got a
Speaker 1: question real quick. Yeah, So are you guys both in
Speaker 1: on alec alu manor? Here? You guys both in on it.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take him here because I really have Aurora.
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest.
Speaker 3: I'll for me.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at that pick at one twenty eight, going
Speaker 4: what is the percentage chance, I mean, all you manners here,
Speaker 4: he's thirty five on this board, he's here at sixty one.
Speaker 4: What are the chances of Tory Horton's on the board
Speaker 4: at one twenty eight? And I can get whether it's
Speaker 4: Fred's guy with Arroyo, whether it's Demetrius knight whether it's
Speaker 4: it's your guy Logan with Omar Norman Lot, I can
Speaker 4: get a player at a position that I am not
Speaker 4: going to be able to get another player. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I get Tory Horton at won twenty eight, So I
Speaker 4: would say, I'm not I'm not going to fight you
Speaker 4: on on ay you manor.
Speaker 3: But I think I would rather wait and try.
Speaker 1: To get So this is what I agree with Jeremy,
Speaker 1: that you would find the receiver later. Yeah, yeah, especially
Speaker 1: you can find a defensive tackle later too. Like as
Speaker 1: much as I like Omer Norman Lot, and I think
Speaker 1: especially you can find defensive tackle later. I can get
Speaker 1: j J. Pergeese and you can do that, feel rown,
Speaker 1: But so is it is the pick. It's between meet
Speaker 1: Jametrius Nights Knighting and Elijah Royo. Sounds like for you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I got Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 2: I got Frankie Louvu, I got my draft pick from
Speaker 2: last year, Jim McGee, Joey McGee.
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna forget about my last year. Drea Pitts.
Speaker 1: What I would say is is, don't let what you
Speaker 1: have on the roster stop you from if you if
Speaker 1: you think it's a special player. Yeah, don't don't let
Speaker 1: it prevent you from doing that.
Speaker 3: All right, let me try to say my last pitch.
Speaker 3: He got my last pitch to you out.
Speaker 2: All right, we're playing Philadelphia Week four.
Speaker 3: We're in the red zone.
Speaker 2: All right, they're gonna double zach Ertz because they know
Speaker 2: what happened last year. We bring a worldwady in the game,
Speaker 2: we move him in motion across the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: All right, Debo is in the backfield. All right, we
Speaker 2: flood the right side of the field. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: we flood the right side of the field. They're looking
Speaker 2: at zach Erz there looking at Debo. But guess who
Speaker 2: comes open Aurora.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this dude's been injured his whole career and.
Speaker 2: We're not asking him to play full time because he's
Speaker 2: a backup.
Speaker 3: I want to take a he's a backup. Whoever we
Speaker 3: pick right here is gonna be a backup.
Speaker 1: True, but you got Jeremy Jeremy.
Speaker 4: I will say, Fred, you're an excellent salesman because it's
Speaker 4: a good passed Dislike Arroyo. I don't want anybody to
Speaker 4: think my problem is I'm not sure how Arroyo and
Speaker 4: Ben Sennett played together.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about it. This ain't a feelings game.
Speaker 1: You were just talking about how you gotta worry about
Speaker 1: your draft pick.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I did laugh when he said you can't forget about
Speaker 4: your fake last year. Ben sentence online too.
Speaker 3: I haven't forgotten about it. Being sentate, I love being sentate.
Speaker 3: He don't bring what this guy brings to the tap.
Speaker 3: They are two different. To the difference, true, they're different.
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with everything he said.
Speaker 4: Look, Fred has convinced me I will not fight on Arroyo.
Speaker 4: I do kind of want to pound the table for
Speaker 4: Demetrius Night, because I think linebacker gets Gnarls Barkley in
Speaker 4: this class so fast, especially if you don't like linebackers
Speaker 4: that are five to ten.
Speaker 1: I'm Demetrius Knight.
Speaker 5: I think it's Demetrius Knight, Fred only because of what
Speaker 5: Jeremy just said. It gets real, real thing, real quick,
Speaker 5: and there are tight ends.
Speaker 3: What were we are hit for? Wonts not needs?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not saying it's a need. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: That player and I think he is your heir apparent.
Speaker 3: But we're not gonna pull the trigger because it gets scarce.
Speaker 3: They ain't what we're doing.
Speaker 2: We're not putting the trigger on the linebacker because it's
Speaker 2: gonna get scarce in the.
Speaker 1: Field in the sixth Fred, you've been voting.
Speaker 3: It ain't the first time. It's not the first time.
Speaker 1: I think we all like a royal. I like a royal.
Speaker 1: I understand I do like a royal. I don't love
Speaker 1: a royal.
Speaker 2: I don't need the lover to be with her. My
Speaker 2: granddaddy didn't love my grandmama all the time. They held
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 5: Well, thank Clyde, we don't have an actual clock because
Speaker 5: we went way.
Speaker 3: I bet, oh yeah, that would have been one that
Speaker 3: like they've gone five picks. They would have Minnesota vicing.
Speaker 5: This what year was it where the team, uh Minnesota's
Speaker 5: showed up? And when that happens other teams just pounced.
Speaker 5: They just start throwing cards in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the quickest three picks in the NFL
Speaker 4: because Baltimore went real thugs.
Speaker 5: Do you think that I've thought about this? Do you
Speaker 5: think that they have like an emergency like person sitting
Speaker 5: by with like a clock. Yes, right, that's just like
Speaker 5: here are the guys, and you toss him out, go
Speaker 5: to it. As soon as that clockhags here, you're running
Speaker 5: these cars, run like.
Speaker 3: We won't have this happen again. The NFL was humiliating
Speaker 3: on mid day, all right.
Speaker 5: So Demetrius Knight, junior linebacker from South Carolina. We want
Speaker 5: them to learn from Bobby Wager Fred's Fred's likes the player,
Speaker 5: but not happy with the with the pick right here,
Speaker 5: because I.
Speaker 3: Like a player. Yes, don't get it wrong, if.
Speaker 1: We so either either way we went. I just I
Speaker 1: have less questions about him as a player.
Speaker 4: All right, So we got two of my top thirty
Speaker 4: players with one pick that was barely in the top thirty.
Speaker 3: I'm personally very happy about it too.
Speaker 5: So Jeremy, while I'm making this pick, while I'm selecting
Speaker 5: Demetrius Night, junior linebacker for South Carolina, why don't you
Speaker 5: give me the elevator pitch on him for our listeners
Speaker 5: who haven't watched him at.
Speaker 4: All, Demetrius Knight feels like he's trying to prove something
Speaker 4: on every single down. And now the knock on him
Speaker 4: that at least I've heard is that that defensive line
Speaker 4: at South Carolina was so good that it allowed him
Speaker 4: to just flow to the ball play clean. That's why
Speaker 4: I like him so much with Washington. I think that
Speaker 4: those three gigantic defensive tackles that you got with Ken
Speaker 4: Law with drawn with Johnny Newton allows him to do
Speaker 4: that in Washington. And you've also got him learning from
Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner, who is as good at that as any
Speaker 4: linebacker probably in an NFL history. So you've got a
Speaker 4: guy that can mentor him and is really good at that.
Speaker 4: I don't think there would be a drop off a
Speaker 4: year from now. I mean, look, Bobby's what thirty, I
Speaker 4: think he's might you're younger than.
Speaker 3: Me, I think, and.
Speaker 4: I'm good with that. I love what Night brings to
Speaker 4: the table. He's an elite run defender, holds up in coverage.
Speaker 4: I think you can even rush the passer from time
Speaker 4: to time. He's a little too aggressive and he's an
Speaker 4: older guy. But that's really the only two knocks. I
Speaker 4: love the game. It is just he's twenty five years old.
Speaker 2: I've ben say, y'all just drafted somebody gainst the granddaddy
Speaker 2: to put on the team and talking about infusing the
Speaker 2: team when you.
Speaker 1: You wanted to draft the ten man over here. So
Speaker 1: calm down, just really, Oh, Mike.
Speaker 4: I will say, I'm now so Sikima and Connor Rodgers
Speaker 4: called t J. Sanders bull Rush McIntyre. I'm never not
Speaker 4: calling Demetrius Night gangster granddaddy.
Speaker 3: From that's his name for now.
Speaker 1: My goodness.
Speaker 5: All right, we're on the clock.
Speaker 3: Now round?
Speaker 5: What round? Are we in?
Speaker 3: Four for one?
Speaker 1: Eight?
Speaker 5: A lot of the guys we were talking about, oh
Speaker 5: we can just get them later, they're gone. Of course
Speaker 5: they're going how the draft goes. But that's okay. You
Speaker 5: go show us to that logan, talk us through who's
Speaker 5: left here and start.
Speaker 1: Gunnar helm is on here, Tied End from Texas, who
Speaker 1: I am not a big fan of, but people love him,
Speaker 1: people absolutely love him.
Speaker 2: Had I had a man chrish on did you early
Speaker 2: in the year until he worked out, until I seen
Speaker 2: him when he shirt out and then it was like no,
Speaker 2: but I still think you.
Speaker 4: Couldn't block Grants. He could not block gangster Graham. Mom,
Speaker 4: that would scare me.
Speaker 1: The next The next guy is Benjamin Errosik, tight end
Speaker 1: from Jojia, who actually like quite a bit. He good
Speaker 1: in the run game. He's got a little bit vertical juice.
Speaker 1: I like him as a player. Will Howard for quarterback
Speaker 1: of myhow State, Sebastian Castro safety corner from Iowa, John
Speaker 1: Quin Johnson from Kansas, and well running back Jock West Hunter,
Speaker 1: Miles Fraser guard from LSU. I like him quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Tess Johnson's on the board for Shard Smith. Come all down.
Speaker 1: I love him. I heard there's some character stuff. Jalen
Speaker 1: Rivers is a tackle probably going to play guard, who
Speaker 1: I like a lot, just because he's played a lot
Speaker 1: of football. He's physical, is all outdoors and just kind
Speaker 1: of gets it. I said Bondstall on the board. Uh
Speaker 1: remember the receiver who said he's gonna run a four
Speaker 1: two at the combine around.
Speaker 3: The fourth four. I thought he went four to three.
Speaker 1: It is four three eight. I think so good running back?
Speaker 1: Do I like him better than.
Speaker 3: He's a dumpster fire between the Ears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you this, how do you feel
Speaker 2: about one guy that I just keep bringing up and
Speaker 2: everybody keep just saying, Okay, you guy. What about Rocket
Speaker 2: Raheem Sanders from the South Carolina. I think Big Faz
Speaker 2: scroung ain't nothing he can't do. He can catch, he
Speaker 2: can pay his block well round it don't get no
Speaker 2: love in his draft.
Speaker 3: But I think I don't know why either. Diamond Indy Rough.
Speaker 2: I thought I was looking at Stephen Davis junior.
Speaker 3: Junior.
Speaker 1: Scroll up a little bit, Jason. Sorry, we'll just tell
Speaker 1: a little about God. We're okay, he's just got We're back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're back.
Speaker 1: So scroll to the top of the running backs. So this,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for running back value now, I think
Speaker 1: would be an interesting time. So Dark Hunter running back
Speaker 1: from Auburn is a physical, hard nose, downhill kind of guy,
Speaker 1: kind of a one speed kind of guy. Yeah. Jayden
Speaker 1: Blue from Texas pass catching back, Richard Smith pass catching
Speaker 1: back and VERTI wide receiver. I really think he could
Speaker 1: be a special weapon in this offense. Trevor Atien, like
Speaker 1: we just talked about, Cale Mullings, is a bigger downhill
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Converted linebacker that only played one year
Speaker 1: of running back. And then Kyle how do you say
Speaker 1: his name? Mona guy guy I think is a again
Speaker 1: a hard nosed, blue collar guy. And then Basil Tuton
Speaker 1: is a guy that I think is explosive. He could
Speaker 1: hit the home run, but a little bit up and
Speaker 1: down with the vision. And then Jordan James to me
Speaker 1: is one of the better running backs in the class.
Speaker 1: And then Fred's guy, Raheem Sanders is at two point
Speaker 1: forty on this board, So I guess the point I'm
Speaker 1: bringing up here is. And then you got a Crosskey Merritt,
Speaker 1: the running back from Arizona, say that he's excellent, So
Speaker 1: I don't know, we need to take a running back here.
Speaker 1: To be perfectly honest with everybody.
Speaker 4: Raheem would be right on. We were fine. Look Rocket Sanders.
Speaker 4: Now I will say the only thing about Rocket Sanders.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to my team doctor. I'm gonna grab
Speaker 4: him by scrate and I'm gonna say I want you
Speaker 4: to do. I don't care if you have to give
Speaker 4: this kid a colonoscopy. I don't care what you have
Speaker 4: to do. You will clear this kid before I draft him,
Speaker 4: because I saw him we were at the L s
Speaker 4: U game when they played L s U in Columbia,
Speaker 4: and I think he limped off to the sideline four times. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I need my doctor of unless you want to be
Speaker 4: doing physicals at an old pot from I need you
Speaker 4: to clear him and I need you to get it right.
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Speaker 3: try it.
Speaker 1: Let's go Gosh. I like to attacker, so the one
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to call attention to is the offensive
Speaker 1: tackles here are interesting because I think Jalen Rivers is
Speaker 1: a starting caliber offensive guard.
Speaker 3: What about Jones?
Speaker 1: Emery Jones I think is a starting caliber defensive guard.
Speaker 1: Logan Brown. I like the idea of him more than
Speaker 1: I like the film of him. The athlete, the upside,
Speaker 1: the physicality. Chase Luntz, if we were pruning an outside zone,
Speaker 1: he'd be the guy here for me because he is
Speaker 1: dynamic in terms of movement skills.
Speaker 2: Aletic he screams Shannahan. Yeah, dre me, I am a
Speaker 2: Shanahan offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: And then he got San Francisco in my final monk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's perfect. That's like, that's where he
Speaker 1: should go. Yes, he is a scheme like that. You
Speaker 1: got any yeah, anything of it. Then you got Brandon
Speaker 1: Crenshaw Dixon. And then Jalen Travis is here at one
Speaker 1: eighty on this board. I have him in my top
Speaker 1: one hundred. He's the hundredth player for me. A little
Speaker 1: bit of a throw. I just see his skill set,
Speaker 1: I see his body. He's six', eight he's three, forty
Speaker 1: he ran a five. One he's got a thirty five inch,
Speaker 1: vertical he's got thirty five inch arms like that profile
Speaker 1: that plus starts to right tackle in THE. Nfl, Yeah
Speaker 1: SO i think that's something Where i'm kind of, LIKE
Speaker 1: i don't. Know to, me the safest pick here is
Speaker 1: the guard From, miami the tackle, guard but The Jaalen.
Speaker 1: TRAVIS i love him as a.
Speaker 3: Prospect so WHAT i Prefer Jalen travis To?
Speaker 4: RIVERS i agree with you. WHOLEHEARTEDLY i think The travis
Speaker 4: is going to be a.
Speaker 3: Tackle in this.
Speaker 4: League what you said About Logan, Brown he's The christmas
Speaker 4: present that we call This draftmas on my. Show It's Draft.
Speaker 4: Christmas we Send draftmas. Carols it's a great. Time Logan
Speaker 4: brown is the present from your grandmother that you shake
Speaker 4: it and it doesn't make noise and you, go that's
Speaker 4: a sweater or. Socks, yeah And i'm not gonna love
Speaker 4: it WHEN i open.
Speaker 1: IT i.
Speaker 2: Tissue that's WHY i would have to Go Emmery jones right,
Speaker 2: there because the one THING i know About Emmery, jones
Speaker 2: he does footwork to me is pretty.
Speaker 3: Good. YEP i can slide him. INSIDE i can slide
Speaker 3: in my.
Speaker 2: Side he blocked For jayde Dan, allad so he knows
Speaker 2: how to block for a quarterback that might not be
Speaker 2: where you think he.
Speaker 3: Should and with a what's the? Quarterback? Then now what's
Speaker 3: in h he could throw the ball pretty it would
Speaker 3: have been.
Speaker 2: Good so he's the blocked for a pant a pocket
Speaker 2: path and he's blocked for a running. QUARTERBACK i just
Speaker 2: think he had and he played high END sec. Football
Speaker 2: he'd the one THAT i, say you know, what he
Speaker 2: could be my swing.
Speaker 3: Tackle gord right, NOW i think he's a moment.
Speaker 4: He wanted to fight everybody at The Singer bowl. TOO
Speaker 4: i loved his. Fight, Yeah mobile really heavy in the pants.
Speaker 4: Too that kid's got an anchor THAT i think he's.
Speaker 3: A guard for a long time in this. Lake and
Speaker 3: you'll get no fight On Emory jones From i've.
Speaker 2: Been, saying, like instantly he becomes your number six offensive
Speaker 2: lineman and now whoever goes, out he'd come.
Speaker 1: In he'll can hear, You lucas just saw the. RECORD
Speaker 1: i Like Jellen. Travis if we want to Go Emory jones,
Speaker 1: Here i'm not going to fight you on. That let's
Speaker 1: Go Emery jones.
Speaker 5: Here, Yeah i'm a big fan Of Emery jones. Here
Speaker 5: bawler in The run game. Too, yeah knows how to
Speaker 5: pass protect For.
Speaker 2: Jada and he didn't block the Lynnon jackson's at The.
Speaker 2: World he didn't block The Gimes Pierce juniors at The.
Speaker 2: World he's just been. There he's blocked The walkers of The.
Speaker 2: World he's done it.
Speaker 5: Right and on The Command center podcast when we did
Speaker 5: our Safe space draft, Thoughts, yeah my theory of just
Speaker 5: draft linemen all the, Time, YEAH i think fits right.
Speaker 4: Here so, yeah Safe space draft. Thoughts, Yeah space last
Speaker 4: stand up special was the last stand up SPECIAL i
Speaker 4: did was called Dark thoughts From My Safe.
Speaker 5: Spence well that's about what it, was so would Say Emmer.
Speaker 3: JONES i Think Emi.
Speaker 5: Jones jeremy, said you weren't going to fight this. One
Speaker 5: you feel good about?
Speaker 3: It, Nope i'm.
Speaker 5: Great so everyone's happy in the draft. Room so with
Speaker 5: pick one on our mock, draft we're Taking Emery Jones,
Speaker 5: junior the tackle FROM. Lsu he's going to be a guard.
Speaker 1: For its probably a, guard, yeah but that has enough length
Speaker 1: and could.
Speaker 2: Play i'm gonna say whatever we need him to, do
Speaker 2: that's what he'll be ready to.
Speaker 5: Do you can never have enough offensive lineman, ever, never, never.
Speaker 2: Never that's WHY i love the. SHOPPING i love to
Speaker 2: shop In. IOWA i love to SHOPPING. LSU i love
Speaker 2: office Of.
Speaker 1: Lineman from these running backs off the board Here Basil
Speaker 1: tootin goes two o four to The Dallas. Cowboys it
Speaker 1: is so here we are pick two oh.
Speaker 4: FIVE i like Seeing Baseiel tootin go to The. Cowboys
Speaker 4: he's the kid that you create On. Madden it's a
Speaker 4: ninety nine speed and of four.
Speaker 1: Awareness yeah IT'S i, mean that's not a bad. Deal
Speaker 1: that's not a bad.
Speaker 3: When he got what we call him butt.
Speaker 2: Runners he runs right into the, butt like if if
Speaker 2: you don't see the, crease he gonna run into the
Speaker 2: butt of the guard and be right.
Speaker 3: There but he's not gonna set it, up that's for.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, no, Absolutely so let's take a look AT i,
Speaker 1: think let's, see let's go out right. Here this is.
Speaker 1: Interesting so all.
Speaker 5: Gets a little wild here in these things because it's
Speaker 5: just like quarterbacks start.
Speaker 1: Falling showing up. Here, yeah SO i think the edge,
Speaker 1: rusher like the edgrusher you had up, there can you
Speaker 1: pull him back? Up the guy at the, Top DIGGS
Speaker 1: i think is his name From, Syracuse Kalale Digs. Diggs
Speaker 1: he's got the, length he had a really good ten
Speaker 1: he had a really solid jump. Profile he does feel
Speaker 1: like a guy that if you look at What Adam
Speaker 1: peters did last, year you're just drafting for upside. Basically,
Speaker 1: yeah he's a guy that feels like he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of, upside like his best football is ahead of
Speaker 1: him kind of. Thing so if you're looking for an,
Speaker 1: edge it's a rotational kind of. PIECE i don't hate,
Speaker 1: THAT i MEAN i kind of want to look around
Speaker 1: at some other. Pieces.
Speaker 5: Yeah SO i want to say here, that like in
Speaker 5: the sixth and seventh, round like we're looking for a
Speaker 5: guy with some sort of superhero. Treat, yeah we can
Speaker 5: try and add him just a. Treat see if we
Speaker 5: can't maximize on.
Speaker 2: You, YEAH i Know logan doesn't, drink But Johnny walker
Speaker 2: is tempting right.
Speaker 1: There you Know i'm edge From.
Speaker 3: Missouri, yeah, yeah So i'm just saying he's. Flashed PLUS
Speaker 3: i Like Johnny.
Speaker 4: Walker Johnny walker led to my second, Marriage SO i.
Speaker 1: Have a little pretty. STOKED i might have a.
Speaker 3: Bias the last TIME i did, that it didn't go so.
Speaker 3: Well so.
Speaker 1: CLICHE i Think Roondre gatz is on the board, here
Speaker 1: tight end From, syracuse and as a guy that's you,
Speaker 1: know kind of a past catching developmental. Upside the receiver
Speaker 1: from go back To jason the receiver From. Auburn it's also,
Speaker 1: interesting Uh KeAndre Lambert. Smith, yeah he's got a little
Speaker 1: bit of vertical juice and play some special. Teams so
Speaker 1: CAN i get the?
Speaker 3: Prison i've been asking for the?
Speaker 1: Hole what you?
Speaker 3: Want, Rock Little Rocket sander's in my.
Speaker 5: Line Rocket sander's still sitting.
Speaker 3: Here Little Rocket sander's in my.
Speaker 1: Life AND i Take Jordan james Over Rocket. Santa you're
Speaker 1: in On john WHO i would not on which.
Speaker 3: One i'm With. FRED i would Take rocket Over Jordan.
Speaker 2: James i've, hunted especially when you're talking about running In
Speaker 2: december And november in THE.
Speaker 3: Nfc He's i'm Taking, Rocket.
Speaker 5: SANDRA i love that you camped them To Stephen davis
Speaker 5: here because he's got that kind of OLD nfl. Style,
Speaker 5: yeah but WHEN i.
Speaker 2: Say when he decides to go down, here he leans.
Speaker 2: Four you know how b rob runs with? That four
Speaker 2: would lean And Rocket santas is faster than be. Robbed
Speaker 2: And Steven day was with his fast.
Speaker 3: When he came.
Speaker 1: Out, byeah, man it's gonna get cold out, here you
Speaker 1: know What i'm. Saying But i'm on board.
Speaker 5: THAT i, like we're in the sixth round right WHERE
Speaker 5: i going.
Speaker 4: FOR i am really glad that none of you are
Speaker 4: fighting for. Uh Corey kiner, though BECAUSE i don't love
Speaker 4: running backs that need somebody to hold their car. Keys
Speaker 4: Corey kiner has like seven and three quarters inch, Hands
Speaker 4: and how.
Speaker 3: Do you function? It like how do you hold A Coca?
Speaker 3: Cola i'm gonna, say, faceball you can't eat hold The
Speaker 3: wappa with those.
Speaker 4: Hands so oh, no he, no he has to eat
Speaker 4: a Crystal. Burger he's got to get the little tiny Slider.
Speaker 4: Murger why do you have to get the little Mini
Speaker 4: coakes gonna?
Speaker 1: Have is there a safety can you go to? Say
Speaker 1: i'm on board up With Raheem, Sanders BUT i just
Speaker 1: want to see, Safety, no proud just wanted to check
Speaker 1: see if there's anybody here that caught my Fancy.
Speaker 4: Old there is One Caleb. Branshaw, old there is One Taylor.
Speaker 4: BRANZELL i.
Speaker 3: KNEW i knew that where you were. GOING i like.
Speaker 1: THAT i like this pick a little bit better than
Speaker 1: the running. BACK i, mean that's just me if you
Speaker 1: want to fight me on, It fred, LIKE i think
Speaker 1: he could play this.
Speaker 3: Kid the only one Reason i'm gonna, say AM i right?
Speaker 3: It just right?
Speaker 2: NOW i really Have Rocket sandra's BECAUSE i do have
Speaker 2: what's the name still on the? Roster Tyler, owins WHO
Speaker 2: i really.
Speaker 1: Like but he's So Caleb, Breakshaw, yeah, MAN i think he, Could,
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know do we HAVE i can't have
Speaker 1: enough good cover cover guys?
Speaker 4: Though is That ransall is Like Ryan ransall plays That
Speaker 4: brian Branch he can play slot. Corn, yeah he can play.
Speaker 4: Safety you move him all over the first of. All
Speaker 4: him at two twenty one makes my head. Hurt, ye
Speaker 4: if we had put the twenty four and twenty five
Speaker 4: draft classes, In Caleb branzas should have been higher than
Speaker 4: to twenty.
Speaker 2: One can we all agree with? That if we take Ramside? White,
Speaker 2: now do y'all Think Rocke santa's is still beat in?
Speaker 1: SEVEN i, don't BUT i think it's a running, back
Speaker 1: so you can kind of pick her.
Speaker 4: UP i. CAN i will say, THIS i could Take
Speaker 4: rocket at two o five BECAUSE i Like Katan crawford
Speaker 4: And hunter Woll or, two so there are several safeties
Speaker 4: THAT i could get.
Speaker 1: DOWN i Like kton. Too he had a really good
Speaker 1: athletic profile coming out of the. Compound so do you
Speaker 1: want to go rocket or what's the what's the pick?
Speaker 1: Here what did you, Say, JEREMY i missed. It it
Speaker 1: was you said you could go you, go you go
Speaker 1: rocket here because there's two safeties you like, later, RIGHT i.
Speaker 4: Can go six LETTER r word either, way rocket Or
Speaker 4: ransall that, said either, WAY i will be very happy
Speaker 4: and and we can figure it.
Speaker 1: Out it Because fred's been talking about it so Much.
Speaker 4: Hey fred got burned on a, arroyo SO i can
Speaker 4: happily get. FRIEND i feel like this is a good
Speaker 4: mending of offenses after a, royo that we could rocket right,
Speaker 4: now we can all hold, hands say good bye and
Speaker 4: be friends.
Speaker 2: Again they really hurt my. FEELINGS i almost cried and
Speaker 2: mixed those tears with a little.
Speaker 1: Liquor yeah, right so rahem.
Speaker 5: Rocket sanders at the two o five pick in our
Speaker 5: mock draft the running back out Of South, Carolina, fred
Speaker 5: do you want to do a quick elevator?
Speaker 3: Pitch?
Speaker 5: While are you drafting here this whole?
Speaker 1: Time just another?
Speaker 2: One just, scrong run down, here Break texas can, catch
Speaker 2: can pass block.
Speaker 3: Everything we. Need we need, Young we need you fit
Speaker 3: the running back. Position he brings that. Youth there you.
Speaker 5: Go that's a that was one, floor one. Floor that was.
Speaker 1: Great uh all, right? Picked what is? This this is
Speaker 1: our last?
Speaker 5: Pick this is the last, pick two forty. Five we
Speaker 5: have not drafted an edge or a pass rusher, yet
Speaker 5: just an F, yi so do we even want to
Speaker 5: look that?
Speaker 1: Way look at? IT i mean you want to GO dp?
Speaker 3: Here there are a couple of edges THAT i. Like light.
Speaker 3: Everything he'll gonna be from T. MoU that's not entirely.
Speaker 1: True over here.
Speaker 3: You got d X s.
Speaker 1: Area there's a. Kid have you seen if you watched
Speaker 1: the kid From Tulane jeremy by any, chance the edge.
Speaker 1: Rusher what's his? Name, Hilton Hilton hambleton, anyway.
Speaker 4: See if he's on Your i'm SURE i watched him
Speaker 4: at some. Point if he's not on my, board, uh
Speaker 4: my board goes rather date E.
Speaker 1: So, YEAH i, mean uh he ran like a he's
Speaker 1: like he's six to, one he's two eighty read a
Speaker 1: ten to four at the? Combine all, right like in
Speaker 1: high school coming, out.
Speaker 5: We're talking about a guy That's Patrick.
Speaker 3: Jenkins is that you're talking?
Speaker 1: About, no ill up his? Name keep talking talking.
Speaker 3: Taking any football player lead Named?
Speaker 1: Jenkins Is Ronda gatson's on the board BECAUSE i do
Speaker 1: like him?
Speaker 3: Late, NO i think he went. Earlier what ABOUT. J. J?
Speaker 3: Pergeese is he still on the?
Speaker 4: Board no, Way, no he goes way. Earlier IN pff
Speaker 4: monks they like one Fifty Aiden.
Speaker 1: Huntington is that? Name ring a?
Speaker 3: Belt oh oh you're talking about the you're talking about
Speaker 3: the interior.
Speaker 1: Gay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah uh.
Speaker 3: He's washington's really hot on.
Speaker 4: HIM i think he's going to be one of those
Speaker 4: guys that the apiece calling in the seventh, round going all,
Speaker 4: right we're gonna bring In.
Speaker 3: CAN i see? Ye CAN i see y'all on?
Speaker 1: This? No, yeah go, ahead what's?
Speaker 3: Up let's Go?
Speaker 7: Dasmond watch you shut your listen to. Me four hundred
Speaker 7: pound push push? Stop were bringing me in only for push.
Speaker 7: Pushes so the guy above, Him Jaye, toy how do
Speaker 7: he say his?
Speaker 1: Name jay?
Speaker 3: Toa j toah j.
Speaker 1: Toa he's three forty five and he actually, plays then.
Speaker 3: He's actually good at.
Speaker 4: Football Desmond watson would be the greatest bookshelf.
Speaker 3: In, hey, listen he's only for one, play the test.
Speaker 3: Push we got him to. Eliminate he's the test push
Speaker 3: eliminade you never you never get.
Speaker 5: Because of The. Eagles, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well this is what you.
Speaker 2: Do you you compare yourself to the Super bowl, champion
Speaker 2: and if the Super BOWL champi have the unstoppable play
Speaker 2: AND i can get a guy that just can't be.
Speaker 5: Moving, yeah But i'm trying to make my team. Better
Speaker 5: not focus on what andno What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying if you wanted to play in the, Draft i'm
Speaker 1: not focused Like jay twy is if you Watch uchele's, film,
Speaker 1: like he's the reason that swassingers like good at. Football
Speaker 1: this guy right, Here.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah he's he's A he's definitely a draftable pick for.
Speaker 4: ME i THINK i have toa like two o two or.
Speaker 1: Something, yeah he's a good, player. MAN i like him a.
Speaker 1: Lot so if you wanted to go toush push stopper
Speaker 1: like Obviously Desmond, watson that's his. Role but Like i'm, saying,
Speaker 1: uh do you see that defensive? Tackle, ACTUALLY i totally
Speaker 1: not to station actually use him plays. FOOTBALL i.
Speaker 3: Smooth i'll make a deal With, Yeah i'll try to
Speaker 3: sell this. Pick we Take Jay.
Speaker 4: Tower you want a six five that can get up
Speaker 4: to like four. FIFTY i am six. Five we can
Speaker 4: just feed me.
Speaker 3: For the next three. Months i'll build up the watching.
Speaker 4: Profile my knees are better than his two BECAUSE i
Speaker 4: haven't been for last eight.
Speaker 3: Years And i'll come in and be that touch push.
Speaker 2: Guy All i'm saying is in the seventh, ROUND i
Speaker 2: want a. Guy PROBABLY i need you to be great
Speaker 2: at one. THING i want you to be great at.
Speaker 1: One we look at other.
Speaker 3: POSITIONS i, Say Desman watson's great at one.
Speaker 1: Thing the, fact, yeah the fact that he's too oh
Speaker 1: that he's two ninety six on this. Board we got
Speaker 1: to talk To trevor. Man he's going through something at.
Speaker 1: HOME i think we Love trevor to him And, Connor,
Speaker 1: YEAH i Love. Trevor, yeah so just just have a
Speaker 1: little chat with.
Speaker 3: HIM i can't believe y'all turn down the tiss push.
Speaker 1: Stop. Dude Katan crawford, here that might be the. PICK
Speaker 1: i like him a. Lot, Ronde i'm ACTUALLY i don't.
Speaker 1: Know i'm Between Katan crawford And Ronde gatz and WHO
Speaker 1: i think goes higher than. This by the, way, dude
Speaker 1: he's he's six' five almost. Sixty six he's two, forty five.
Speaker 1: Two fifty he's a converted. Wide receiver he's got thirty
Speaker 1: four thirty three and a half inch arms like he
Speaker 1: ran a four to.
Speaker 4: Six five he's not a converted. Wide receiver he's like
Speaker 4: what he is still a wise receiver if they keep.
Speaker 4: Tailing us plays that.
Speaker 1: In Correct but, i'm saying if you want like a mismatched,
Speaker 1: type WEAPON that i. DON'T think i think. He's good
Speaker 1: like he. Played receiver he lined up in, the slot
Speaker 1: he lined up, in Line like.
Speaker 2: I'm, So, okay yeah this should make you happy for,
Speaker 2: YOU know i love sorry used to play, different positions
Speaker 2: and now THEY realized i could be THIS where i.
Speaker 3: Loved it Where's your where do you have?
Speaker 1: Them, Ranked, uh jeremy just out of CURIOSITY because i
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. With, them yeah. Tight end.
Speaker 3: Let's see ronde's in my top.
Speaker 1: Two hundred yeah THAT'S what i was. GONNA say i.
Speaker 1: WANT again i like him, a LOT and i don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with, him exactly, but this to
Speaker 1: me feels like the guy you get a mismatch weapon
Speaker 1: learned Behind zach er.
Speaker 3: Mister band aid for my rural.
Speaker 1: Peak, it yeah actually this Is, he's, yeah okay THAT'S
Speaker 1: where i have. Him too so here the tight end
Speaker 1: in the room.
Speaker 5: Elevator PITCH why i.
Speaker 1: PUSH draft i just think you're looking for guys that
Speaker 1: can be. Mismatch weapons like that's the direction the position's
Speaker 1: going if you're not going to play. In line and
Speaker 1: it's so hard to find guys that can win, versus
Speaker 1: safeties win. Versus corners and he did that, in college
Speaker 1: AND so i look at THAT and i say, to
Speaker 1: myself like that's the kind of player that you wanted
Speaker 1: to learn and develop that has a similar skill set
Speaker 1: To zach ertz and you get him in the. Seventh round,
Speaker 1: good length, good size has good strength when, he Does like,
Speaker 1: jeremy said not a lot of stuff, in line but has.
Speaker 1: It there so, To me i'm in.
Speaker 4: On that so, all right Look, AT also i would
Speaker 4: Be Calling holland pierce to the second the. Draft ended
Speaker 4: how much money do you need to be a priority
Speaker 4: undrafted free agent For The.
Speaker 3: Washington.
Speaker 1: COMMANDER yeah i was, gonna say do you? LIKE him
Speaker 1: i Just Saw holland pierce is. The guy he's six
Speaker 1: eight and, a half he's he's three. Fifty six.
Speaker 2: Let's.
Speaker 4: Say, yeah yeah he Came to Rutgers At desmond. Watson
Speaker 4: size he was four eighty when he walked On at
Speaker 4: rutgers and got down to three. Forty two now he,
Speaker 4: looks Like, for god a thunder.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: Terrifying yeah, All right so this is. Our drafts, Round
Speaker 1: One shavon revel CORNERBACK. From ecu, Round Two demetrius knight
Speaker 1: and Linebacker From. South carolina Round Four, marius jones guard TACKLE.
Speaker 1: From Lsu Raheem, Emery Sorry Raheem, Rocket, Sanders Yes guy
Speaker 1: Carolina And ronde gatz in the second Me and jeremy's
Speaker 1: guy with our seventh. ROUND pick i feel really good
Speaker 1: about the developmental elements, of this and it shows to
Speaker 1: me that like people have a wide array of opinions in.
Speaker 5: This, draft yeah we didn't grab an. Edge rusher, yeah
Speaker 5: yeah even though we all said before that that was.
Speaker 1: A need but it's best.
Speaker 5: Player available you got to stick. To That guns ap
Speaker 5: set it up to not have to push for something.
Speaker 5: Like that so this is what you can end up
Speaker 5: with when you stay with best. Player available And.
Speaker 1: So fred thanks for, Joining, us jeremy thanks for. JOINING
Speaker 1: us i had way more fun doing THIS than. I
Speaker 1: thought we actually went about twenty minutes over that we,
Speaker 1: normally do so. Exture work appreciate you all. Coming, out
Speaker 1: jeremy we're.
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Speaker 3: Dan, twenty yeah.
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Speaker 3: About THIS sweet t And o zmpy And.
Speaker 1: So jeremy we have to talk to you after. The
Speaker 1: draft enjoy your time. Up There, And, Fred yeah i'll
Speaker 1: talk to you. Later today That Does Avery. Day show i'll, see,
Speaker 1: you guys say