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Speaker 1: to change anything when you go from coaching college kids

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Speaker 1: So I gotta be completely sweaty. I didn't do a

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Speaker 1: you come to the NFL, right, just want to hear

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Speaker 1: you know, his face is his phase two and it's

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Speaker 1: like one of your first kind of not practice, but

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Speaker 1: you don't you get to move around and do certain things,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I have my whole group there. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've been working with, you know, a couple of young

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Speaker 1: guys at first. I was the first time that I

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Speaker 1: got my group on the field at the same time

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Speaker 1: and got to run drills with him, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm walking around pre practice in a full sweat,

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Speaker 1: you know, just bouncing up and down. Just can't wait

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Speaker 1: to coach these guys. And then I wanted them to

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Speaker 1: understand that this is not something that just I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna do on occasion. This is how they're gonna get coached.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of all I was letting them know

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Speaker 1: that it wasn't gonna be a day off. I want

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Speaker 1: them to match my energy every day. You're gonna be

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Speaker 1: okay on Monday. Oh yeah. I get a little scratch

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Speaker 1: out and get rolled out. I'm good to go, man,