WEBVTT - A Match Made in Instagram Heaven 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:07.480 You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi, 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.320 welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler. Today, 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.440 I have a very special guest. I feel like I 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.360 say special guest every single time because all the guests 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.200 that come on this show are really special to me. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.440 I either have worked with them, know them from growing 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.320 up and impacted some way by them, admire them. And 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:29.080 today I have also Marie Collins, who is my partner. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.159 And this is about humanity, which is something that we 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.040 talked about a little bit last week when we were 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.760 talking about fires and fire relief in ways we can help. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.479 Elsa as a social impact strategist and humanitarian known for 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.960 her work in advocacy and community building. She's been raised 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.000 between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. She earned her bachelor's 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:52.279 and master's degree from Stanford University, and she got a 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.480 jurist doctor from Columbia Law School. I don't even know 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.360 what that means, but she's extremely smart and I'm lucky 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.400 lucky life that she's my partner with. This is about humanity, 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.280 and we actually call each other partners in good because 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.279 we work together to hopefully make this world a better place, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.720 no matter how big or small the issue may be. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.200 So let's welcome Elsa. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:17.679 Hi. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.920 I'm so excited. I am so excited you're doing this. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.840 And I haven't talked about This Is about Humanity that 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:31.160 much on the podcast, and that part of my life, 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.040 which is such a huge part of my life, hasn't 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.240 been shared that much except for last week when we 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.720 were talking about the fires in La So I thought, 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.920 what better way to talk about this is about humanity 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:47.280 than to have my partner in good on, Elsa Collins. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:53.080 So apart from This Is about Humanity, you also have 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.320 co founded several organizations PoTA Ristas I am a voter. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:58.520 Are there more? 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.600 But the ones that matter, the ones that it's almost 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.280 like when when I'm passionate about something or an issue 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.040 comes up, instead of just like sort of being like 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.799 I'm gonnaet involved, like I'll just start a whole new 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.320 thing and try to figure out how to how to 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.400 help and solve or show up for folks. And I 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.400 think that's one of the most amazing things that we 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.480 get to do with This Is About Humanity is really 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.200 figure out how to help other people show up and 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.680 create this incredible community. So I think more than anything, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.040 whether it's paddistas, I'm a voter, this is about humanity, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.040 whatever it might be. I think that like my favorite 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.600 part about all of it is just building that community 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.040 and then seeing all the ways that we can get 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:43.679 them engaged and involved. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.119 Do you want to talk a little bit about who 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.080 we are at This is about humanity and how we 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.280 came to be partners. And we also have a third 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:57.040 partner at Yolanda, who is actually Elsa's sister. Yep, and 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:01.000 she is also So there's three of us. There's three 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:05.560 of us, and their sisters were all three moms. And 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:06.720 I'll let you take it from here. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:11.840 Yeah, so, gosh, this is about humanity. I think you know, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.280 Zoe and I sort of knew each other. We had 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.320 seen each other at our you know, neighborhood spin class. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.120 We liked to go to this. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.639 Speak clear, I was in the back row and Elsa 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.400 was riding the podium, which, if you know, is a 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.520 big deal. So let's be clear, Okay, we were we 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.079 frequented the same class, but it was not the same workout. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.600 Okay, Well we were both there, okay, okay, And you 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.120 know we would see each other at you know, the 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.680 larder grabbing coffee after. Obviously she's born and raised in La, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.480 as my husband is as well, so definitely like knew 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.760 her and knew who she was and just kind of like, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.080 you know, she was in La. She's so La, you know. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.680 And so anyways, long story short. Twenty eighteen, obviously family 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.920 separation became more well known, more people were finding out 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.400 about it, more people were, you know, having really strong 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:06.440 feelings about seeing families being separated and being from Tequana, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:11.280 my sister and I, you know, I had gone to 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.040 Texas to protest what was going on, and I just 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.120 remember on the flight back being like, that's so weird. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.400 I went all the way over there instead of focusing 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.520 on what I'm sure is happening, you know, right in 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.919 the backyard of where I grew up, and you know, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.760 obviously only a two hour drive from LA. So it 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.000 really started as a donation drive. And I remember I 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.640 had just posted something like, hey, if you want to 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.000 give to the kids who are separated, like DM me 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.080 and I wish I could go. I wish you had 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.480 a history of that, dam But Zoe dm me back 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.680 and she was like, I don't know, She's like I 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.960 want to be doing whatever this is. And I was like, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.040 I don't know what this is, but amazing, and so 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.240 she you know, you really just so many people showed up, 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.839 but I think I just remember you saying it has 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.839 to be more, and like, I can't be going to 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:02.440 sleep crying and thinking about these kids and not really 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.479 doing anything. And it was so amazing to see how 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.960 you just turn that passion into like here we are 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.400 six years later, you know, and like I can't believe 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.520 how much we've grown just as an organization. And yeah, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.240 that was the beginning, you know. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.440 I remember that moment so clearly because it was a 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:28.240 defining moment in my life. And I had just had Gus, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.279 who's my third, and he was one, and I was 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.400 seeing the families be separated, and I remember seeing this 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.600 image on the news of a mom crying and her 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.760 two year old daughter just kind of looking up at her, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.760 and I just said to myself, like, I can't this 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.160 is I cannot do I can't do nothing. I have 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:54.200 to do something. And I obviously didn't have any background 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.359 in this, and so I didn't know where to start, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.120 but I just knew that I had to start saying something, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.200 and I felt like the only thing that separated me. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.599 I've said this one thousand times with that mom and 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.760 me was where I was born. Because at the end 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.760 of the day, I felt exactly what she was feeling like. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.960 I could just see her face in that picture and 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:19.200 I knew what that must have felt like as a mother, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:24.080 and I just I don't know, I'll never forget it. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.640 And there's been so many things in life where you 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.640 see something and it just feels too big, so you're 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.720 just like, you know what, Ugh, that was horrible. Let's 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.320 move on with our day, because if you stay in it, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.760 it feels so huge and like you can't make a difference. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:44.520 So you just move on. And I feel like weird 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.280 proof like this is about humanity as proof that you 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.640 can make a difference. You know, you can start small 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.400 and then you can grow into like a larger scale, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.360 or you can just stay in your community and organize 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.680 in your community. You could do whatever, but you have 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.480 to do something. You can't just sit back and do nothing. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:08.919 And you have been like the most integral part of 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.960 that and teaching me that because there I ask you 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:17.000 a thousand questions a day and you just have this 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.400 ability to mobilize people and lead people in a way 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.800 that is so it doesn't make anyone feel less than 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.720 or dumb, like I've never seen anyone like it. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.920 Well thanks, and I for sure, especially in the growth aspect, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.880 I don't want you to minimize, you know how integral 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.640 you've been to grow just for people knowing and giving 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.680 kind of validation, especially you know in a city like 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.600 as amazing as Los Angeles', you know, to get people 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.760 to buy into something new could sometimes be hard and 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.920 people want to know, like, well, who is it and 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:00.720 what is it really doing? And and so you know, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.480 I I remember, you know, in the very beginning getting 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.680 to know you better, and and I'm not going to 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.120 name any any brands or businesses, but I remember one 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.200 of my very first sort of like oh she can 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:20.240 really she has influenced this girl. She had ordered a 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.560 cake from a place for I think it was. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.600 Fourth birthday, fourth birthday, and. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.760 They messed it up. I can't remember what the issue was, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.319 but it was not right. And when I tell you, 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.480 in one day, she had taken it down, like she 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.000 took them down. And I was like, okay, it's not 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:42.559 just that it. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.480 Wasn't right, it was that they all they made me 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.840 pay for it still, and I was like, wait, this 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.319 is not okay. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.880 So she was like it was like her personal mission 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.760 to be like you're done, and everyone I know is 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.320 done with you as well. And by the way, like 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.760 I've never done any business with them ever again, but 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.480 just to say that, like when you flip that to 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.679 helping people and to getting people involved and getting people engaged, 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.360 it's like, you know, you can you ask people to 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.160 do stuff and they show up. You know, I ask 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.320 people and I and my sister and it's like, I 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.680 do think that you know, we're not asking people to 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.640 do anything that we're not doing ourselves that we haven't 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:28.920 like looked into ourselves, that we haven't you know, thoroughly vetted. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.520 You know. I think that's one of the most incredible 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.440 things about this is about humanity, is how careful and 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.000 how precise we want to be to be able to 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.440 point take people down the line of like you gave this, 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.000 and here is actually something that you can see that 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.439 came from it. And so it's really been an amazing 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.640 it's been an amazing journey, like truly. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.240 And there were challenges along the way. I mean, we 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.440 you and I had to learn how to work with 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.280 each other. We all three of us had to learn. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.040 You know, you guys are sisters, but you had to 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.319 learn how to work with each other. There were challenges. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.680 I think one of the biggest challenges is that people 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.080 think that we are like a political organization, and that 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.320 is not at all who we are. We are We 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.839 are not affiliated with politics in any way. Do you 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.080 want to talk a little bit about that. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.559 Yeah, I mean I think the name says it all, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.280 you know, I think that we and by the way, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.240 the name part it was funny because you know, we 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.760 started as a donation drive, so many people get I 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:36.400 mean I really unknowingly volunteered to receive all the donations 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:37.000 at my house. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.480 I actually posted a picture last week for your birthday 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.560 and it was from our first and it was just 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.839 your entire house was filled with boxes. I mean, I 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.720 think we got over like five hundred boxes and donations. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:50.480 Well, I thought I was gonna be we were gonna 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.679 be like driving it like in my like Sue don't. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.720 I don't know what I was thinking, but it was 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.600 basically a fire hazard and we were like, oh my gosh, 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.600 I wonder if we as part of this kind of 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.960 idea of being accountable. We'll take people and we'll take 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.160 the donations down, and we'll get to meet families and 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.720 they'll get to see what's going on, which is what 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.560 we did. And I remember specifically, we're on the drive 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.720 back and someone's like, like, so, when's the next bus 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.959 And we were like we I don't know where we 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.880 going to do another bus? Were we going to do more? 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.160 And then someone said what are you going to call this? 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.240 And and Mandana Diana, a good friend of ours who 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.560 was on that first bus, who had actually who had 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.040 gone to the protest with me, was like, remember you 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:36.199 wrote on your poster in the protests, like the maybe 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.199 like a month before I had written down this is 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.360 about humanity, because it's what I felt that we were 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.440 talking about. We weren't talking about politics, we weren't talking 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.559 about parties. We were literally talking about human beings. And 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.320 like what we were going to say was like okay 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.439 or not when it comes to being like a human 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.080 being and how we respect other humans and how we 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.280 treat each other. And so we like from the very beginning, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.720 really couched ourselves in that lane. Is like we're not 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.040 we're talking about families. We're talking about children and we're 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:11.160 talking about humanity. So I think, yeah, I think it's 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.760 something that we've really tried to stay very closely aligned to. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:21.200 And we started, you know, we started as a donation drive. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.600 We moved on. We started doing one fundraiser, like one 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.000 big fundraiser a year, which it was a dinner and 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.240 it was all chef driven, so it was this really awesome. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.400 So the first year it was thirty people in my parents' 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.240 front yard and. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.440 Why think we begged them to come. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.920 We begged people to come. We were like, we will 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.280 do anything for you to come to this degree, we 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.120 will feed you. And there were and we've worked with 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.520 incredible chefs like Michelin Star chefs, and we've grown. Now 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.040 it is still at my parents' house, but now we've 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.800 taken over the front and the backyard and we have 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.360 about three hundred and fifty people. So we got from 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.720 thirty people to six years later, three hundred and fifty people. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.840 And by the way, and we have to like cap 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.640 it like we literally we have. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.240 Because we want to keep it well. First of all, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.720 we want to keep it at my parents' house because 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:15.640 the location is free, and also there's something really we 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:20.480 want it to feel really uh cozy and homie and 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.320 we couldn't exist without our volunteers. So we really, you know, 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.680 we but but but where we've come from. We just 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.480 we just got an email and I had to go 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.560 over and read the email. We are under we are, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.520 we we are. We have a fiscal sponsor, which is 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.959 International Community Foundation, and Letty emailed us and do you 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:46.680 want to say how much we've granted out in the 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.040 last six years? 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.439 Yeah, two point four million dollars. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.240 So we we went from being like begging people to 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.120 come six years ago and getting thirty people to come 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.720 to a dinner to granting out two point four million 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:04.480 dollars to organizeas that are helping these families. And I, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.080 for one, like, I can't, I can't even believe it. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:09.960 I'm so proud. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.600 It's kind of wild when you really think about it. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:20.640 You were like, how you know, how like you said, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.200 we started off so small. We started off being like 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.720 will you give soccer balls and journals and you know, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.200 ms crayons, stuffed animals, And now we're like in a 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.880 place where we're you know, funding mental health programs that 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:43.640 are servicing you know, LGBTQ community youth teams, adults, we've got, 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.320 you know, we've done several infrastructure projects. We've built bathrooms, 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.000 we've built second floors, We've like, we've done so many 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.800 things that came from just trying to just starting with 0:14:54.840 --> 0:15:00.280 one thing. And so I think it does. It does 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.720 go to show you, like you were saying, that you 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.320 can do something. I mean, I'm not sure everybody wants 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.760 to start a whole organization, because as you said, like, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.400 there are definitely I'm sure days where we're like what 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.920 are we doing? Why are we doing this? One hundred 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:15.920 can be stressful. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.480 I mean we also also have like other things going on. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.360 I have a podcast, you have forty million things. I've 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.760 never met someone as busy as you. We both have 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.720 three kids. She goes to every single game, She travels 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:36.520 around the country. I've never seen like. She goes to DC, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.720 she goes to all these places, she works on policy, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.840 she does all of these things. I'm like tired just 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.160 listening to her or watching her. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.400 Yeah, I mean I always say I'm better when I'm busy. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.760 But yes, sometimes I feel like, you know, like with 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.520 anything in life, you can really just be like, did 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.800 we you know, bite off more than we can handle. 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.240 I think there's always ups and downs in anything, you know, 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:08.200 even in this amazing organization that we have, like with 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.400 anything in life. But I do think when the north 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.000 star that I think we've always sort of gone back 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.480 to is the good that we're doing and the impact 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.600 that we've had, It's like it's worth the growing pains. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:25.080 It's worth you know, whatever might have happened or occurred 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:30.120 or whatever challenge we're facing, you know, dinners this that 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.320 the other I think that we've always sort of just 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.840 kept that as like the true goal of the org, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.120 and that's really what's kept us, I think, so authentic 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:49.800 to who we are. You know. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.360 I was thinking, like, not only do you do you 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.840 have like these thirty million jobs, but you have these 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.360 three kids? And then your husband is a coach of 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.760 the Pelicans, and so he's gone on so like it's 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.480 gone months, a's gone. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.360 How do you leave in September and he comes back 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.560 sometime and like maybe late April? 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.480 Yeah, I know, you, how do you feel like you 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.840 balance it? And then if there is a moment where 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.320 you might like not be able to balance it, like 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:22.240 what do you do? 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.520 I mean I think the thing, well, I have like 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.080 two really hard and fast rules that I that I 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.679 completely adhere to and that are like in me and 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.240 I believe completely. One of which is I just genuinely 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.800 don't abscribe to mom guilt like I don't. I don't 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.080 think it serves me any purpose. I don't think it 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.320 serves any mom any purpose. And if if you're allowed 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.320 to let it go, I highly encourage it. And I 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.479 also feel that, like taking care of me is super 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.639 important so that I can handle whatever else is coming. So, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.400 like Zoe said, you know, I used to love spinning. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.199 I mean, basically, setting some time aside for myself to 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.159 work out is doably important to like the success of 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.080 my day. And I know that sounds insane, but it's 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.480 actually true. So, like in the morning, I need three 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.679 things I need to work out for at least twenty minutes, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.280 and that's like my minimum. Sometimes it's only twenty minutes. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.399 Sometimes I can do longer, but like twenty minutes has 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.560 to happen. I have to get my coffee and I 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.160 have to eat this muffin that I really love. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.160 This muffin. This muffin has traveled all over the world 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:22.520 with her. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.920 This muffin has traveled. I've had this muffin every day 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.399 for maybe the last ten years, except for like in 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.159 really dire circumstances when like it didn't live further than 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.080 like five days in China or something like that. But like, anyways, 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.480 so when I have all of those things, I feel 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.840 like I can handle whatever else is going to happen 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.719 because I already did all the things that like nurture 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.560 me and make me feel really ready. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.960 You've added eggs to your morning routine. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.760 I have. I've added eggs and protein. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.080 Guys, this is it brings it in a thermos. We 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.520 take bus trips to the border, and she brings the 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.159 muffin on top and then eggs and protein on the 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:58.080 bottom of the thermist. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:03.920 Yes, which I feel like now everyone knows my super quirks. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.320 But I feel like in the last two years, you know, 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.080 women getting older, bone density whatever, lifting has become way 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:16.520 more important. And so yeah, I've been eating more more protein. 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.320 And then the other thing is I sort of feel 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.879 like I have to accept that I'm kind of only 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.639 doing everything at thirty percent. Now. Granted my thirty percent 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.240 is probably like everyone else is like eighty percent. Yeah, 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:31.679 but correct, I'm you know, it's like I'm I'm getting 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.080 to someone's birthday and i can only stay for an hour, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:35.800 but then I'm gonna go to that screening that someone 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.280 had because I really want to show up, and then 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.040 I'm gonna you know, And so I'm kind of like 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:44.080 going like this and barely eking everything out. This morning 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.680 was a really good example of me feeling like I 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.640 didn't have it all under control. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:50.760 I'm ready, bab. 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.920 It was. It was a crazy morning. So my son, 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.960 my youngest, he's twelve, I'd been telling him for a 0:19:58.000 --> 0:19:59.320 couple of days like, hey, I want to cut your nails. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.959 I want to cut your nail and this morning I 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.720 was like, I cannot let him go to school with 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.119 his nails like that, Like that's just how my brain works. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.920 So it's like, com merebody, I'll cut your nails real quick. 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:09.760 And I was doing it real quick and oh did 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:15.080 I Oh no, oh okay, No, he was not okay. 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.679 He was gushing blood. I was like, oh my, I 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.080 was literally like, is a chunk of his finger it's 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.760 barely hanging off. I mean, it was so dire. So 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:26.600 I'm like putting water on it. I'm schoozing out and 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.359 putting alcohol and I'm just thinking, yep, I do not know. 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:31.879 This is not good, guys. This is and this is 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.280 where I'm like, you know, I'm I'm doing all of 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.760 my first aid techniques and by the way, I called 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.280 the pediatric later, I did everything right. His TENNUS is 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.399 up to date. Because of course, I call my husband 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.399 on the way to school and he's like, you know, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.400 first why he's mad because it's on his shooting hand 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.760 for light pinky bad news, because this is a basketball thing. 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.280 He has all sorts of opinions about why this happened. 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.200 And I'm like, well, you know you're not here, so 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.840 we're just gonna say that. And you know, and even 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.199 with the fire and all the stress and everything that 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.080 was happening this last week, I was just like, you 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.240 just have to trust that I'm well trying to do 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.760 the best I can and be making the best decisions 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.919 I can at the moment for like mental and physical 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.000 well being for our children. Yes, I messed up and 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.560 I cut his finger. That was me, guys. But I 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.640 definitely was driving to school being like, yep, okay, this 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.360 is this is when maybe and it's like something as 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.600 like crazy as that that makes me feel like I'm 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.080 just doing too much. I cut his finger. 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.960 I'm doing too much well, to be fair, cutting children's 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:35.840 fingernails is extremely stressful. 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:38.760 Yes, and I use the wrong clip. 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.080 I could do you ever take a day off? I 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.520 don't even know the answer to that. Honestly, I would 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.560 say no. I don't think you too like in life 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:49.840 like you you don't take a workout day off. 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.960 I mean, you know when we go on buses, which 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:56.840 will you very early? And I want to be ready 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.760 at a certain time because people start showing up, Like 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.080 I will set my alarment through forty five and work 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.240 out to make sure I get that work out in. Yeah, 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.880 there have been in this past year. I could probably 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.360 count on one hand when I've not gotten it in 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:16.680 because of some just situation where I just couldn't figure 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:17.040 it out. 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:19.120 And do you notice the difference? 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.080 Yeah, I always say like I And by the way, 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.639 it's not like every day I'm going I'm doing something crazy, 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.640 but I am doing something every day. But the days 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:31.720 that I don't, I definitely feel like I could have 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:34.919 gotten it in, and I it just it gives me 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.000 like a I'm just dissatisfied, truly, and I just feel 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.080 like I could have just done something. I could have 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:42.760 walked for twenty minutes and it would have been and 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.679 that would have been better than nothing. But it is 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:50.960 sort of like a mental It's just a mental thing 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.119 that I like check off in terms of like am 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.280 I do I ever just like lay in bed and 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:58.720 do nothing? Like I don't even know, No, you don't, 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:00.399 that's the answer. You know. 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.639 It's funny because you taught me. I think something and 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.600 I talked about this a couple of weeks ago that 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.480 like sometimes my anxiety, I'm a really anxious person. You 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.040 do not have that issue. You are not anxious, and 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.960 like if somebody is like maybe like you have this 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.119 ability where if someone's kind of like being a jerk 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.879 or an asshole, you're like, it's not about me, you 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.399 know what I mean? Like you have that and like 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:27.320 where I will obsess over it until like three months 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.479 from now, maybe even six, and I think, but one 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.880 of the things forever, well, one of the things you've 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:38.440 taught me that I is like the quality of showing up. 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:41.760 And I think that it's such an important thing because 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:43.760 so many times you'll think like, oh it doesn't matter 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:45.720 if I go, like they won't notice, or there's so 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.040 many people there or this gives me anxiety, and I 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.360 just like don't want to do it. This I get 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.240 like for me, I get like social anxiety. But you 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.640 show up for everyone in your life, and I think 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.199 it's such an amazing quality and it makes people it's 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.600 it's underrated, Like I don't know that people know how 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.760 important it is to show up. And that's something you've 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:11.840 taught me. And I just I think, I don't where 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:12.560 did you learn. 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:16.640 That, you know. I think that, like I'm the youngest 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:20.840 of five, right, so you're always trying to you know, 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.520 be I think like there in my you know, upbringing, 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.359 there were like the three older kids and then the 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.399 two younger kids. There's a five year gap between the 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.880 three older and then me and my my my brother Charles, 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.760 and so I think that like, you know, they would 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.480 take they would travel and we would be home and 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.720 things would happen like without me a lot and so 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.080 and then you know, when it was just kind of 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.879 like you know, the younger two of us with my mom, 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.240 there was a lot of hey, you gotta like take 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:57.160 care of yourself. Like I remember my first job when 0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.280 I was uh, I think I just turned six. Team 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.080 but it was I really got my first job because 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.520 my mom had gotten to visit my older sister, Caroline, 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.920 who was living in New York, and she had left 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.399 my brother Charles money while she was gone. He was 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:12.639 he probably was like a maybe he was like a 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.080 senior in high school and I was a sophomore or 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.800 even a freshman. No, I was a sophomore. Anyways, Okay, 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.880 so she leaves, she leaves him the money. Three days later, 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.880 we have no more money, like genuinely, like he's blown. 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.719 I don't know what he's done with it. And so 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.760 like I'm going to school and he's like, hey, we 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.800 need like toilet paper, just like grab some from the bathroom. 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.280 And I'm like, I'm not going to steal the toilet 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.280 paper from the school bathroom, Charles. And so I call 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:36.560 my mom and I'd be like, are you coming back? 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.800 And she's like, well, I've extended my trip whatever. Anyway, 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.040 So long story short, I was like, OK, yeah, I 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:41.959 guess I gotta go get a job, and so like 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.480 that this idea of just like I like and just 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.119 I remember that being like the first time of like 0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:50.800 I just got to be a self starter and figure 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:56.520 things out and so and then I think that like 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.680 even when once I started to have kids, and your 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.800 life seems so full of things and so busy, and 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:08.240 it's the easiest thing in the world to just stay home. 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.960 Trust me, I totally know it. And I will go 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.639 through some periods where like I do genuinely be like 0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:17.639 I'm just not going to do anything. But it really does, 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.520 as I said, like sometimes when you're only showing up 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.800 for twenty minutes or whatever, like because this is maybe 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.359 in some cases that person's most important thing that they're 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.240 planning or putting on something for work, something they've worked 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.879 really hard on, you know, a special event, and I 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:38.280 just feel like letting people feel seen is so important, 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.920 and honestly, I get such joy out of it. I 0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:46.320 really do, Like I love just showing up for folks, 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.240 and so I think it is kind of like a 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:52.359 superpower and it's hard one. It's hard to do, but 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.960 I do think it served me like so well, just 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:59.399 in my whole life, just my friendships, my relationships, you know. 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.280 And then sometimes like when you start a new organization, 0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.880 you're asking people to show up for you. They want 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.360 to show up because you've been showing up for them, 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.959 and so I really genuinely feel like it is it 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.919 is just this relationship that we both have with with 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.800 people and that people feel, you know, like sometimes I've 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.520 had people, you know, when we first started, who wanted 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.040 to come on a trip, who wanted to come on 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.879 a bus and like you know, schedule travel, and it 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.600 took them five years to come on a bus and 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.639 then when they finally come, they're like, thank god you 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.640 didn't like stop inviting me, Like, thank god I still 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.960 got the emails because one of the dates actually worked 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.639 and now in here. And so I think that consistency 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.800 is also super important to me, Just being really consistent 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.440 with like the work that we do, like the work 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.399 that I do. Just that is is really important to me. 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.040 We've talked about the bus, but I don't think we've 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:57.320 explained the bus. So bus trips are something that after 0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:02.280 we did that first trip to San Diego, we started 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.000 just brainstorming and we thought it would be so incredible 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.560 to actually take people to Tijuana to see what is 0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.200 going on there and hear from these families because there's 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:17.600 so much information misinformation about these families that are you know, 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.399 waiting to come to this country. And I felt like 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:26.760 for me as a Jewish person, it was my duty 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.919 to hear from these families because a huge part of 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:37.840 seeking asylum was created during the Holocaust when families were 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:42.440 coming here and America was accepting these families that had 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:46.160 been affected by World War Two. So it's it's always 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.719 been a really something that I don't know, it's just 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:57.120 like it it it to me feels very connected. But 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.640 so these bus trips we leave in the morning at 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.080 six am, five forty five am. We take about thirty 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:09.080 to forty people with us and we drive down to 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.200 Tijuana on a bus that has a bathroom, so don't worry, 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:18.480 and we go and visit. We opened a relief kitchen there. 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:19.600 Do you want to talk about the kitchen. 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:24.480 Yeah, So we run a relief kitchen in partnership with 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:31.000 ICF and Flumesabe. It is feeding three thousand, one hundred 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.360 asylum seekers and migrants a day at twenty seven different shelters, 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:41.480 including an accompanied minor, children, families, women, LGBTQ individuals, and 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.640 six days a week. So it's it's really like I said, 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.160 like we literally started as a donation drive and now 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.000 you know, we're feeding people every day. We're gonna we're 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.440 on track to serve a million meals in this year, 0:29:56.040 --> 0:30:00.160 and so it's kind of mind boggling to think how 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:05.560 how we've grown, and like the number of people who 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.400 are just impacted by the programs and by the donations 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.640 and the support that we get is exponential. You know, 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.960 it's just we can't even I mean, we try to 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.080 measure it, but it's really you know, you can't really 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.720 measure sometimes like the value of like a warm meal 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.920 and feeling like you know, people are there for you 0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.680 and like you have that support. And so we go 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.200 and we volunteer at the kitchen and then usually we 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.480 have a service activity that's related to one of the 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.560 shelters we're going to. Sometimes, you know, during Pride Month, 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:40.040 we'll go to the LGBTQ shelter. You know, it just depends, 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.000 and you know we always say like, well, your your 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.480 life will change in one day. Truly. I mean I've 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.240 seen people who come on buses who have gone back 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.920 and just been like mind blown, you know, just just 0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.720 a different perspective and appreciation for you know, what we 0:30:55.800 --> 0:31:00.360 have in our own lives. And so it's it's I 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.080 joke around because I'm so anal about you know, when 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.640 I send the emails. I'm like, okay, here's everything you need. 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.880 Here's the schedule. You know, we leave at five point fifty. 0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.240 If you're running late, text me. And everyone's always like joking, 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.040 like have you ever left anybody? I'm like, yeah, we have, 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:13.760 we have. 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.120 We Remember we had Jane from Zoop, Yeah, from Goop. 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.040 She came to write a story and we left her and. 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.480 She drove Yeah, she's to be fair, she drove herself 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.800 down and then jumped on the bus. But but it was, 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:28.560 you know, like she's like, where are you. I'm like, 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.760 it's six ten. I said six we left, We left, 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.600 but yes, to her credit, she drove down and joined us. 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.640 But I'm I'm always really, you know, I think people 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.400 are surprised, but it's a it's a pretty uh it's 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.880 a lot of operations and logistics, so you know, it's 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.640 a tight shure. Yeah, five to seven minutes could be 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.800 two more hours on the way back for traffic, So 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:51.720 you know, I'm really And. 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.280 By the way, I want to be clear, we leave 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.400 at like five five fifty in the morning and we 0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.440 come back by seven pm the same day, so we 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:00.560 don't spend the night there. 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.320 Yeah. Yeah, And we have lunch. 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.960 Had an amazing restaurant, and every single. 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.320 Type because every yeah, every bus is different. Every bus 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.000 has like a different by the way, you had some 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.040 people who come on like twenty buses, right, and I want 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.920 to be clear, but every bus has a different like 0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:21.280 all amazing but different vibe, different focus, sometimes different personality. 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.600 And on the way down, everybody introduces themselves, which some 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.200 people hate, some people hate, but everyone and I love 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.600 themselves that I know, it's my favorite part. And they 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.920 say like what they do for a living, why they're what, 0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.720 what brought them to come on this trip? And I 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:39.280 love it so much. 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.880 And also crazy to see people out in the wild 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.960 and they're like we do on our bus, you know. 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.640 Or they'll you know, people have gotten my jobs off 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.400 of the bus. They might make contacts. I'm waiting for 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.160 the dating marriage to yeah, the bus. What do think? 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.840 What's something about running a nonprofit that you think people 0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:57.200 would be surprised to learn? 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.400 Oh my gosh, there's so many rules. There's a lot 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:02.960 of rules. 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.800 There's a lot of rules, like you know, for instance, 0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.960 like even just during this this fire relief situation, like 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.719 there's a lot of thought and there's a lot of 0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.760 there's a lot of rules that you have to follow. 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.760 Yeah, there's definitely a lot of rules. And then I 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:27.520 also think that you know, not everything is is going 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.680 to be great. I think that's that's really you know, 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.600 giving back is amazing and the impact you have is amazing. 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.320 But sometimes like it can be it can be hard, 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.600 and it can be onerous, and you can think like 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.280 why why are we even doing? You know, sometimes I'll 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.440 be like, no good deed goes unpunished, Like I remember 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.640 the remember the bus where like they didn't send a 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.760 bus and then we were like an hour. 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.000 Late and you were you were beside yourself. 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.000 I know I was gonna say, I don't have anxiety, 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.400 but I definitely like to be in control. Yeah, and 0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.840 things that I cannot control are where I sort of 0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.440 feel like, okay, this is yeah, and so that was 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.040 just like so awful. 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.960 But I think we've had events sometimes that like didn't 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.120 go the way we wanted. You know, we'll do we 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.560 do like these drives, we do a holiday party, We 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.680 do a Best Birthday Ever, so like a birthday party 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.880 for kids that so we work with Immigrant Defenders Law Center, 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.799 a pro bono law firm, and we've done events for that. 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.239 We work with them, we love them, they are credible. 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:34.920 But We've like done an event where afterwards I'm like, oh, 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.080 that wasn't the best we could do for you guys. 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.439 I'm sorry, you know, like, oh that didn't work. Let's 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.600 do this. It's a lot of troubleshooting because it's and 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:43.080 a lot. 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.319 Of learning, like a lot of learning. First bus to 0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.560 I don't know now we're like fifty five buses in. 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.040 You know, there's there's a lot of things that we've learned. 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.440 You know, with every bus we come back with some 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.720 type of learning how we want people to experience today. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.799 And by the way, sometimes there's nothing we can do 0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.960 about it. Like sometimes we can't. There's so many factors 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.080 that are just out of out of our control that 0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.800 you know, we we try to do the best to 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.960 have it be a great experience, and I think it 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.120 always is. But because we know all the things, we 0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:17.160 can be super. 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.680 Nitpicky about it, and because we want people to leave 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.879 the experience any experience with us feeling a certain type 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:24.080 of way, you know. 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.680 And I also think I guess the other thing just 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:29.920 about running it out or just like having an organization 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.719 or nonprofit is like what do you want it? And 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:35.120 it sounds weird, but like, what do you want it 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.799 to feel like? Because I do think you know, we 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.600 have a really clear idea of what we want everyone's 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.319 interaction with this is about humanity to feel like. We 0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.440 want it to feel easy. We want it to feel 0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:52.000 like inclusive and inclusive. We want it to feel like 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.080 you can just show up and that's all you need 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.719 to do, Like you can invite your friends, can you 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.520 can align yourselves, You'll find community, and. 0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:03.600 That it's not all about money. Like yes, money is 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.120 a huge part and a very necessary part for us 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.520 to be able to keep the kitchen running, keep building 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.279 these learning libraries, keep doing all of these things, keep 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.560 having these events. But it's also about your time, like 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.440 giving your time and and and showing up for these families. 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:25.560 I mean, they're so when we go to these events, 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.720 when we host these events, when we go to Tijuana, 0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:32.320 the families are so happy that we're there. They feel seen, 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.200 they like our goal in those days is not to, 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.040 you know, look at these families and feel bad for them. 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.319 Our goal is to look at these families, hear them, 0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.640 and then and then and then make them feel like 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.719 we hear them, we see them, they matter, and they're 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.719 not forgotten. You know, like those are the things that 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.719 that is our goal, and that's how we want people 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.200 who volunteer to feel as well. 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.400 I know, I was talking to you know, we just 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.920 had our holiday party and I was talking to Veronica, 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.240 a good friend of ours who had gone to volunteer 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.600 with her daughter and her daughter's best friend, and she 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.279 told me, like, hey, I was talking to Sage and 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.680 her friend and they said, you know, we we've like 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.920 felt like okay, we're going to go volunteer to be fine. 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:19.279 But they were just saying that the experience of how 0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.440 they felt just even interacting with these families, that it 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.000 ended up being so much more and so much more 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.480 meaningful than they ever thought it could be. And like 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.400 that to me was like, ah, the highest you know, 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.719 sort of like affirmation that like okay, no matter what, 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:37.239 like we're doing good and and people are feeling like 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.640 they're impacting people's lives. And we've had people who come 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.560 on buses, you know, like Bronico, who stayed in touch 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.600 with families who continue to help them. You've you know, 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.200 been a sponsor of a legal sponsor for aye. 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.600 I'm a legal sponsor here for a family from Honduras. 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:55.040 They have three children, a mom, and a grandchild. And 0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.359 I mean it's changed my life, its changed my kid's life. 0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.759 I will say that holiday part my mom was in 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.880 the hospital and I was not my best self. I 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:09.000 could not stop crying, but no one knew. So it 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.319 was like I was just like I almost felt like 0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.719 and then I'm so grateful that I have these two 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.120 incredible partners who I could say, like, I'm not okay. 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.040 But Ace for his bar mits for project this year, 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.040 raised money to do a toy table at this UH 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:28.440 holiday party, so that he raised over fifteen thousand dollars 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.640 and it was a table like as long as the 0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:36.080 warehouse filled with toys that he picked up better, it 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:36.640 was better. 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.840 And also like he actually was like very specific and 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:41.640 intentional with what yeah picking. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.680 He was picked every toy. 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.000 People were into it, because sometimes you've have toy tables 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:48.720 where I'm like, I don't know that people are that excited. 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.000 But it was like every toy was. 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.279 He went age by age, you know, he really he 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.640 was very but I was so proud of him, and 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.799 that day was so emotional for me and I think 0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:59.200 I came up to you and I was like, I'm 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.440 I'm not well, so I'm going to meet you to 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.040 help me out. And that is like partnership at its finest. 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:06.960 I think in those moments, you know, in the moments 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:11.160 where we're learning from each other, you are very very straightforward. 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.319 You are You're moving a million miles a minute. I 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.279 am more sensitive. So it took us a second two. 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:17.759 I would be like, are you mad at me? And 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.920 You'd be like, I'm not thinking about you and I'd 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.080 be like, oh, okay, okay. 0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:21.840 You know what. 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.600 We had to really learn. 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.600 How to That was actually a funny. That was a funny, 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:40.799 like memory, remember that time when we thought we were 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.120 never going to be friends again and then somehow we 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:50.480 were sell it. I mean, it was that story basically 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.759 where Zoe was like, are you mad at me? Oh? 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.640 Yeah, I think you called me privileged? I did, and 0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:58.279 I was like, I. 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.879 Like, when I tell you, I did not. We didn't. 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.320 We both did not know if we were going to 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:05.880 come back from that. 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:07.560 I literally was like I'm done. 0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.319 This is She was like fuck this shit, and I 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.480 was like and to me, you know, but that was 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:14.120 the first time. 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.279 So just to be fair. Like when we started this, 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:21.520 I really didn't. I didn't. To me, privileged was a 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.360 negative connotation. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure you meant it 0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:25.919 that way too. 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.680 We had just come back from a bus, mind you. Okay, 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.239 I've just been in charge of forty five people's safety 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.680 well being all the things. 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:39.240 Because we had to cross back. 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.440 Yes, like by the way we go to a different country, 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.959 we come all the way back right Like we've heard these, 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:51.319 you know, heart wrenching stories where you cry, You're like, 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.960 oh my god. And you know, we get on the 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.879 we usually talk right after the bus to be like, hey, 0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.440 what had you think this? That and the other? And 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.560 she's like in the first thing she does is were 0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.040 you mad at me? And I was like, no, babe, 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:04.800 I no. 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.920 No, I think I texted you on the bus. 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.880 No, no, but yes, right after we got on the 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.920 bus from gatatas are you mad at me? And I 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.800 was like, no, not mad at you. Again, I'm a 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.040 super straight forward person. Not mad at you means I'm 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:17.560 not mad at you. 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.720 I'm not used to super straight for our people. 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.520 Sorry, I don't know, I guess the very beginning. Just 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.120 so we're clear, Just so we're clear, this was like 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.360 bus three. Okay, this is bus three year, this is 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.279 not even your one. This is like month two. We 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.560 get home, she calls me, hey, Babe, I just wanted 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.440 to make sure you weren't mad at me. And I 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:39.400 was like, I literally told you I wasn't mad at you. 0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:40.879 And she's like, but I'm pretty sure you were mad 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:42.520 at me. I'm pretty sure you were mad at me. 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.920 And I'm like, Babe, I was I'm not mad at you, 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.000 nor was I mad at you, although I'm getting kind 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:50.240 of mad right now. 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:56.400 We've had we've had moments like we communicate completely differently 0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:01.239 and we have completely different backgrounds. So like like. 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.319 I like, babe, so I literally say, I wasn't even 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.880 I were not even thinking about you, Like when I 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.840 got on the bus, I'm making sure that I'm counting 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.399 how many people like and so this is why I said. 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.800 The fact that you think that I'm mad at you 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.759 or I'm thinking about you like might be it just 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.239 I did say privileged. And and then by the way, 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:22.879 it was like a nuke went off. 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.480 By the way, that moment I'll never forget because I 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.360 was able to say, like I was able to think 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:38.480 about it and take a few days, and I am privileged. 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:44.319 And that does come with sometimes thinking that without even 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:48.720 knowing it, you think that your importance or your needs 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.839 in that moment are like them. And and so I 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.360 had to learn and I had to check that about 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.520 myself because to me, it was always like, how do 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:03.120 I you know, I never wanted that to be but 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.000 but but I had to realize, like, Okay, this is 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.360 part you are who you are and learn to be better, 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:09.880 you know. 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.480 But it was such an important again, and one of 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.640 the things that I so appreciated about that moment and 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:21.560 even our relationship in the years after, is that you 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.040 genuinely do want to like you want to know, like, hey, 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.120 if there's something I need to work on, Like, I 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:28.120 genuinely want to know. 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:29.720 You're the same way. 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.640 Yeah, for sure, I have like a healer. You know, 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.400 you got all sorts of people who will tell you 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.120 all the tricks and things and I need I need 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.839 to get the cliff notes. But yeah, I'm the same 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.480 way too. By the way, I'm I'm always you know, it's. 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.160 Actually got you a session with my healer and you 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:44.600 loved it. 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.600 No, I did love it. I really did that way. 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:52.680 Yeah, we we both I think that is something we 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.719 both do and and it and and and the relationship 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.960 has grown so much in six years. 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:04.120 Yeah, by the way, I think that I it really has, 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.480 you know, becoming partners and working closely with you has 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:13.120 really helped me be more sensitive to you know, two 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:17.680 different ways of communitydling, communicating, you know what I mean. 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.319 Like I think for me, who's such a as you said, 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.359 like straightforward person, you know, like if I were mad 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.120 at you, I would just be like I'm mad at you, 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.040 you know what I mean? And so I so it 0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:31.520 was always confusing, like I what no I And then 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.120 you know, and for someone again who like measures every 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.560 output of everything, I was like okay, Like and then 0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.359 you got to know me better and you would now 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.520 like if she were mad, she would say out. 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:45.960 But we started this, we were not friends like we 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:47.920 know each other and we would say hello to each 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.120 other and maybe give each other a hug and yeah, 0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.680 you know, but we were not like we were not 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.480 super close. We didn't and we really like our friendship 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.719 grew as the years have gone on, Like there were 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.960 years that we just like in O and we would 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.640 sort of like we were just going going down the 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.839 road and we were working really hard and we were 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.600 respectful of each other, but we weren't like hanging out, 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:10.279 you know. And I only feel like in the last 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.960 couple of years we've really grown to to get to 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.200 know each other as human beings, not just partners in business. 0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:20.080 And I'm so grateful for that. I'm so thankful. 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.600 I know, same same. I think. You know, sometimes, you know, 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.279 we'll be having a conversation about something and you'll bring 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:29.520 something up and I'll be like, yeah, no, not even 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.440 about me, just like in general, like this thing happened 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:33.800 or like this person said this, and I'll be like, literally, 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.479 not about you. Yeah, it's And I think that that's 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:42.120 one of the things again that is showing up I'm 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:43.520 really good at. The Other thing I'm really good at 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.160 is like, literally I don't teach anything personally, Like I don't. 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.839 I've never met anyone like that. But you genuinely you're 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.120 not just saying that you don't. And I'm always like. 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.960 Oh okay, I'm literally like, oh, I don't even care 0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.879 like whatever, And I do feel like but it's it's 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:02.080 a I think it's an important skill because you know, 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:05.799 you always want I always want people to feel like 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:10.400 they can always come whenever they can, show up whenever 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.200 they can, and so a lot of times, I think, 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:16.120 especially in the nonprofit space, there's like pressure to do things, 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.040 to show up to whatever, and I'm like, great, like 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.560 we'll be here. This is going to happen regardless, So 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.200 like extra points if you're there. If you're not, the 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.560 people who are there are going to be super excited. 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:32.640 I'm going to be super excited. And I do think, again, 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.760 what do we want? This is about humanity to feel 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:38.400 like we wanted to feel like a no pressure situation, 0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:42.560 and so it really, it really has been an amazing 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:47.239 experience and also just an incredible way to even in 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.120 this time, you know, with the wildfires that are happening, 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.600 be an organization that can think about like, okay, yeah, 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:57.640 we usually focus obviously our north stars on these families 0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.520 have been affected, but guess what, some of those same 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.120 families are being affected by this fire, and some of 0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.520 the people in their extended family have been affected by 0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:09.080 this fire. And some of our donors and our support systems, 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.200 some people who have helped us build this organization to 0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.240 what it is today, have been everything. 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:15.719 Why don't you why don't you tell a little bit 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:20.600 about like what we are doing for this wildfire relief situation? 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:24.400 Oh we I think we all maybe even on that 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.880 day as some of us were, you know, Zoe and 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:27.640 I live in LA. 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.000 We live in West LA. We were packing up, we 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.600 were both packing up to evacuate. We're like, well, what 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:34.640 are we going to do? 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.239 Yeah, what are you doing? Are you leaving? Are you 0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:40.600 saying what's happening? And so I think even while that 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.960 was on our minds, we were also thinking like, how 0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:48.920 do we set something up where we can really Yeah, yeah, 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.320 how can we help? And it's just as the trusted organization, 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:55.080 how can we do our best to support other organizations? 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.960 And so we launched the This is About Humanity Emergency 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:03.799 Fund for that Los Angeles wildfires, and we are supporting, 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:11.719 you know, frontline workers, second responders, immigrant families, and individuals 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:16.640 impacted by by the fire. We're you know, supporting organizations 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.120 on the ground who are giving emergency relief, cash assistance, 0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:28.200 legal services, you know, essential needs, necessities. And I think 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.360 in a longer in the longer run, we will also 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.080 start to get engaged a little bit more in like 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:37.799 housing assistants and getting people sort of set up to 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:41.399 for a longer term, you know, solution. I think it's 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:43.839 like it's such a dynamic situation. I mean, even right now, 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.280 I think the Palisades fire is only twenty seven percent contained, 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.680 you know, the eat and fire a little bit more. 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.279 So it's not like it's over. And of course, now 0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.840 since we've all become meteorologists and wind experts, I know 0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:57.479 that the wind is going to be picking up in 0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:01.840 on Monday, and so talk about like I don't have anxiety, 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.680 but I also am now addicted to the watch study 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.880 app and I know all sorts of things about buyers 0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:11.560 and so so yeah, so it's an amazing way that 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:16.400 we we have this ability to show up for people 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.399 when we can, and so I think it's been an 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.120 amazing experience we had. You know, we set out an 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.560 urgent call for fifty thousand dollars EVA Longoria match to 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.799 fifty quickly, and by the way, we probably have had 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:33.000 over two thousand donations come in, which is incredible, you 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:36.520 know for an organization like we're pretty small still, by 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.760 the way, to have that kind of support from everywhere 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.400 has just been really impressive. 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.799 I think it's also important to my dad always says 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.200 this whenever he talks about organization, but there's no staff, 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:52.120 it's the three of us, and then he's our fiscal sponsor. 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.680 Like that's it. There's no like, there's no warehouse like 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:59.680 the warehouse has been our garages like it is. You know, 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.799 we are like a very thin grassroots organization that is 0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:08.759 able to help people. Don't like donate where where it 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:16.080 is going to be safely and and respectfully attributed distributed. 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:21.840 Yeah. No, I feel like, you know, we some people 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.319 be like, so who should I see see? I'm like me, Yeah, 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:31.360 there is no assistant, there is no you know, X person, 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:35.200 And so sometimes it makes me laugh because I, you know, 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.480 I dream of having someone help me do something. But 0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.480 you know, then by the time I think about like that, 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:42.520 I'm like, oh, I should just do everything myself. 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.600 You know, I don't feel like delegating is your is 0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:46.920 your is your strong suit? 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:53.160 Mmm? I mean if I could like clone myself, yeah, yeah, 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:57.840 I would love to delegate to to another me. Yeah 0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:01.120 for sure, I would like that. Yeah. No, it's been 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.440 you know, these past this past week has just been 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:09.360 obviously challenging for so many people, obviously, people who've lost 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:13.000 everything and people who've had to evacuate people who've been 0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:16.080 close to areas. You know, I think there there is 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:20.920 this sort of collective like, you know, we're all not 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.359 all of our shoulders are just up a little bit, 0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:26.480 you know, and we we just want to do the 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.319 best we can for our community, you know. And I 0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.320 think that that's that's kind of where we're at right now. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.080 I know that you have so much on your plate, 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.439 but if you could like magically start one more thing, 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:39.200 what would it be? 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.760 Oh my gosh. 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.840 Oh let's see you could add like one more project, 0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:46.000 what would that project be? 0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:54.640 Oh my gosh. You know, I would love to have 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:58.720 someone sort of say, hey, you've been on the ground 0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:04.040 in so many different places and spaces. You've seen important 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:08.520 work that grassroots ors are doing, different individuals in different spaces. 0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:14.160 Like here is like, here's a blank slate for a 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:16.600 blank slate for you to make the change that you 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:20.680 think is best and go out and do that. Because 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:23.239 I think that, like, you know, as a I have 0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.040 a consulting company, and I do a lot of work 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:28.120 in a social impact space, and you know, it's depending, 0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:31.640 it's dependent on different projects and different focuses, and so 0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.960 sometimes I'm like, you know, this is recumended is a 0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:38.439 good example, right, this is not this is not our job, right, 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:39.520 We're not getting paid. 0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:41.799 We don't make it. We don't make a sense, we. 0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:44.319 Don't make a sent we don't take a salary, you know. 0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:49.120 But it is very genuinely like a project that I 0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:53.120 would do like in my regular work, except for that 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.680 it's a passion project that we do because it's you know, 0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:57.640 it matters to us and it's important. And so I 0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.600 think that a version of that, you know, but in 0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:04.239 a broader in a broader way like elsa, go make 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:05.600 some change, and. 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.279 Well if anyone can do it, you can do it. 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.080 So oh for sure, I'm like ready, look at us, 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:15.359 look at us, look at us, look at us. Okay, well, 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:19.520 I hope that's amazing. Thanks, iHeart, don't forget give what 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.080 in the Winkler Pod? 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