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Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler. Today,

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Speaker 1: I have a very special guest. I feel like I

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Speaker 1: say special guest every single time because all the guests

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Speaker 1: that come on this show are really special to me.

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Speaker 1: I either have worked with them, know them from growing

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Speaker 1: up and impacted some way by them, admire them. And

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Speaker 1: today I have also Marie Collins, who is my partner.

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Speaker 1: And this is about humanity, which is something that we

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Speaker 1: talked about a little bit last week when we were

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Speaker 1: talking about fires and fire relief in ways we can help.

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Speaker 1: Elsa as a social impact strategist and humanitarian known for

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Speaker 1: her work in advocacy and community building. She's been raised

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Speaker 1: between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. She earned her bachelor's

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Speaker 1: and master's degree from Stanford University, and she got a

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Speaker 1: jurist doctor from Columbia Law School. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what that means, but she's extremely smart and I'm lucky

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Speaker 1: lucky life that she's my partner with. This is about humanity,

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Speaker 1: and we actually call each other partners in good because

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Speaker 1: we work together to hopefully make this world a better place,

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Speaker 1: no matter how big or small the issue may be.

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Speaker 1: So let's welcome Elsa.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I am so excited you're doing this.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't talked about This Is about Humanity that

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Speaker 1: much on the podcast, and that part of my life,

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Speaker 1: which is such a huge part of my life, hasn't

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Speaker 1: were talking about the fires in La So I thought,

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Speaker 1: what better way to talk about this is about humanity

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Speaker 1: than to have my partner in good on, Elsa Collins.

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Speaker 1: So apart from This Is about Humanity, you also have

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Speaker 1: co founded several organizations PoTA Ristas I am a voter.

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Speaker 1: Are there more?

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Speaker 2: But the ones that matter, the ones that it's almost

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Speaker 2: like when when I'm passionate about something or an issue

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Speaker 2: I'm gonnaet involved, like I'll just start a whole new

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Speaker 2: create this incredible community. So I think more than anything,

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Speaker 2: whether it's paddistas, I'm a voter, this is about humanity,

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Speaker 2: whatever it might be. I think that like my favorite

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Speaker 1: Do you want to talk a little bit about who

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Speaker 1: we are at This is about humanity and how we

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Speaker 1: came to be partners. And we also have a third

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Speaker 1: partner at Yolanda, who is actually Elsa's sister. Yep, and

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Speaker 1: she is also So there's three of us. There's three

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Speaker 1: I'll let you take it from here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, gosh, this is about humanity. I think you know,

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Speaker 2: Zoe and I sort of knew each other. We had

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Speaker 2: seen each other at our you know, neighborhood spin class.

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Speaker 2: We liked to go to this.

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Speaker 1: Speak clear, I was in the back row and Elsa

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Speaker 1: frequented the same class, but it was not the same workout.

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Speaker 2: And so anyways, long story short. Twenty eighteen, obviously family

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Speaker 1: I remember that moment so clearly because it was a

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Speaker 2: Well thanks, and I for sure, especially in the growth aspect,

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to minimize, you know how integral

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Speaker 2: people want to know, like, well, who is it and

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Speaker 2: I I remember, you know, in the very beginning getting

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Speaker 1: And there were challenges along the way. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the name says it all,

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Speaker 2: And we were like we I don't know where we

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Speaker 1: I talked about this a couple of weeks ago that

436
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: like sometimes my anxiety, I'm a really anxious person. You

437
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: do not have that issue. You are not anxious, and

438
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: like if somebody is like maybe like you have this

439
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: ability where if someone's kind of like being a jerk

440
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: or an asshole, you're like, it's not about me, you

441
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you have that and like

442
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: where I will obsess over it until like three months

443
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 1: from now, maybe even six, and I think, but one

444
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: of the things forever, well, one of the things you've

445
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: taught me that I is like the quality of showing up.

446
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: And I think that it's such an important thing because

447
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: so many times you'll think like, oh it doesn't matter

448
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: if I go, like they won't notice, or there's so

449
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: many people there or this gives me anxiety, and I

450
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: just like don't want to do it. This I get

451
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: like for me, I get like social anxiety. But you

452
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: show up for everyone in your life, and I think

453
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: it's such an amazing quality and it makes people it's

454
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: it's underrated, Like I don't know that people know how

455
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: important it is to show up. And that's something you've

456
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: taught me. And I just I think, I don't where

457
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: did you learn.

458
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: That, you know. I think that, like I'm the youngest

459
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: of five, right, so you're always trying to you know,

460
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: be I think like there in my you know, upbringing,

461
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: there were like the three older kids and then the

462
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: two younger kids. There's a five year gap between the

463
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: three older and then me and my my my brother Charles,

464
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: and so I think that like, you know, they would

465
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: take they would travel and we would be home and

466
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: things would happen like without me a lot and so

467
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: and then you know, when it was just kind of

468
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: like you know, the younger two of us with my mom,

469
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: there was a lot of hey, you gotta like take

470
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: care of yourself. Like I remember my first job when

471
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: I was uh, I think I just turned six. Team

472
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: but it was I really got my first job because

473
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: my mom had gotten to visit my older sister, Caroline,

474
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: who was living in New York, and she had left

475
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: my brother Charles money while she was gone. He was

476
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: he probably was like a maybe he was like a

477
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: senior in high school and I was a sophomore or

478
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: even a freshman. No, I was a sophomore. Anyways, Okay,

479
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: so she leaves, she leaves him the money. Three days later,

480
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: we have no more money, like genuinely, like he's blown.

481
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's done with it. And so

482
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: like I'm going to school and he's like, hey, we

483
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: need like toilet paper, just like grab some from the bathroom.

484
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not going to steal the toilet

485
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: paper from the school bathroom, Charles. And so I call

486
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: my mom and I'd be like, are you coming back?

487
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, I've extended my trip whatever. Anyway,

488
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: So long story short, I was like, OK, yeah, I

489
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 2: guess I gotta go get a job, and so like

490
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: that this idea of just like I like and just

491
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: I remember that being like the first time of like

492
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: I just got to be a self starter and figure

493
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: things out and so and then I think that like

494
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: even when once I started to have kids, and your

495
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: life seems so full of things and so busy, and

496
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: it's the easiest thing in the world to just stay home.

497
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: Trust me, I totally know it. And I will go

498
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: through some periods where like I do genuinely be like

499
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: I'm just not going to do anything. But it really does,

500
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: as I said, like sometimes when you're only showing up

501
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: for twenty minutes or whatever, like because this is maybe

502
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: in some cases that person's most important thing that they're

503
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: planning or putting on something for work, something they've worked

504
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: really hard on, you know, a special event, and I

505
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: just feel like letting people feel seen is so important,

506
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: and honestly, I get such joy out of it. I

507
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: really do, Like I love just showing up for folks,

508
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: and so I think it is kind of like a

509
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: superpower and it's hard one. It's hard to do, but

510
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: I do think it served me like so well, just

511
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: in my whole life, just my friendships, my relationships, you know.

512
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: And then sometimes like when you start a new organization,

513
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 2: you're asking people to show up for you. They want

514
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: to show up because you've been showing up for them,

515
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 2: and so I really genuinely feel like it is it

516
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: is just this relationship that we both have with with

517
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: people and that people feel, you know, like sometimes I've

518
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: had people, you know, when we first started, who wanted

519
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: to come on a trip, who wanted to come on

520
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: a bus and like you know, schedule travel, and it

521
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: took them five years to come on a bus and

522
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: then when they finally come, they're like, thank god you

523
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: didn't like stop inviting me, Like, thank god I still

524
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: got the emails because one of the dates actually worked

525
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: and now in here. And so I think that consistency

526
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: is also super important to me, Just being really consistent

527
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: with like the work that we do, like the work

528
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: that I do. Just that is is really important to me.

529
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: We've talked about the bus, but I don't think we've

530
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: explained the bus. So bus trips are something that after

531
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: we did that first trip to San Diego, we started

532
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: just brainstorming and we thought it would be so incredible

533
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: to actually take people to Tijuana to see what is

534
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: going on there and hear from these families because there's

535
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: so much information misinformation about these families that are you know,

536
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: waiting to come to this country. And I felt like

537
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: for me as a Jewish person, it was my duty

538
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: to hear from these families because a huge part of

539
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: seeking asylum was created during the Holocaust when families were

540
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: coming here and America was accepting these families that had

541
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: been affected by World War Two. So it's it's always

542
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 1: been a really something that I don't know, it's just

543
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: like it it it to me feels very connected. But

544
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: so these bus trips we leave in the morning at

545
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: six am, five forty five am. We take about thirty

546
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: to forty people with us and we drive down to

547
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Tijuana on a bus that has a bathroom, so don't worry,

548
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: and we go and visit. We opened a relief kitchen there.

549
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the kitchen.

550
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we run a relief kitchen in partnership with

551
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: ICF and Flumesabe. It is feeding three thousand, one hundred

552
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: asylum seekers and migrants a day at twenty seven different shelters,

553
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: including an accompanied minor, children, families, women, LGBTQ individuals, and

554
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: six days a week. So it's it's really like I said,

555
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: like we literally started as a donation drive and now

556
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, we're feeding people every day. We're gonna we're

557
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: on track to serve a million meals in this year,

558
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: and so it's kind of mind boggling to think how

559
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: how we've grown, and like the number of people who

560
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: are just impacted by the programs and by the donations

561
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: and the support that we get is exponential. You know,

562
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: it's just we can't even I mean, we try to

563
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: measure it, but it's really you know, you can't really

564
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: measure sometimes like the value of like a warm meal

565
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: and feeling like you know, people are there for you

566
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: and like you have that support. And so we go

567
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: and we volunteer at the kitchen and then usually we

568
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: have a service activity that's related to one of the

569
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: shelters we're going to. Sometimes, you know, during Pride Month,

570
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: we'll go to the LGBTQ shelter. You know, it just depends,

571
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: and you know we always say like, well, your your

572
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: life will change in one day. Truly. I mean I've

573
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: seen people who come on buses who have gone back

574
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: and just been like mind blown, you know, just just

575
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: a different perspective and appreciation for you know, what we

576
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: have in our own lives. And so it's it's I

577
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: joke around because I'm so anal about you know, when

578
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: I send the emails. I'm like, okay, here's everything you need.

579
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Here's the schedule. You know, we leave at five point fifty.

580
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: If you're running late, text me. And everyone's always like joking,

581
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: like have you ever left anybody? I'm like, yeah, we have,

582
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: we have.

583
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: We Remember we had Jane from Zoop, Yeah, from Goop.

584
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: She came to write a story and we left her and.

585
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: She drove Yeah, she's to be fair, she drove herself

586
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: down and then jumped on the bus. But but it was,

587
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: you know, like she's like, where are you. I'm like,

588
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: it's six ten. I said six we left, We left,

589
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: but yes, to her credit, she drove down and joined us.

590
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm always really, you know, I think people

591
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: are surprised, but it's a it's a pretty uh it's

592
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: a lot of operations and logistics, so you know, it's

593
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: a tight shure. Yeah, five to seven minutes could be

594
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: two more hours on the way back for traffic, So

595
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: you know, I'm really And.

596
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to be clear, we leave

597
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: at like five five fifty in the morning and we

598
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: come back by seven pm the same day, so we

599
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: don't spend the night there.

600
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And we have lunch.

601
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Had an amazing restaurant, and every single.

602
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: Type because every yeah, every bus is different. Every bus

603
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: has like a different by the way, you had some

604
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: people who come on like twenty buses, right, and I want

605
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: to be clear, but every bus has a different like

606
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: all amazing but different vibe, different focus, sometimes different personality.

607
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: And on the way down, everybody introduces themselves, which some

608
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: people hate, some people hate, but everyone and I love

609
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: themselves that I know, it's my favorite part. And they

610
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: say like what they do for a living, why they're what,

611
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: what brought them to come on this trip? And I

612
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: love it so much.

613
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: And also crazy to see people out in the wild

614
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: and they're like we do on our bus, you know.

615
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: Or they'll you know, people have gotten my jobs off

616
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: of the bus. They might make contacts. I'm waiting for

617
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: the dating marriage to yeah, the bus. What do think?

618
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: What's something about running a nonprofit that you think people

619
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: would be surprised to learn?

620
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, there's so many rules. There's a lot

621
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: of rules.

622
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: There's a lot of rules, like you know, for instance,

623
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: like even just during this this fire relief situation, like

624
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of thought and there's a lot of

625
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot of rules that you have to follow.

626
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a lot of rules. And then I

627
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: also think that you know, not everything is is going

628
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: to be great. I think that's that's really you know,

629
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: giving back is amazing and the impact you have is amazing.

630
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: But sometimes like it can be it can be hard,

631
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: and it can be onerous, and you can think like

632
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: why why are we even doing? You know, sometimes I'll

633
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: be like, no good deed goes unpunished, Like I remember

634
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: the remember the bus where like they didn't send a

635
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: bus and then we were like an hour.

636
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: Late and you were you were beside yourself.

637
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: I know I was gonna say, I don't have anxiety,

638
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: but I definitely like to be in control. Yeah, and

639
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: things that I cannot control are where I sort of

640
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: feel like, okay, this is yeah, and so that was

641
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: just like so awful.

642
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: But I think we've had events sometimes that like didn't

643
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: go the way we wanted. You know, we'll do we

644
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: do like these drives, we do a holiday party, We

645
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: do a Best Birthday Ever, so like a birthday party

646
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: for kids that so we work with Immigrant Defenders Law Center,

647
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: a pro bono law firm, and we've done events for that.

648
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: We work with them, we love them, they are credible.

649
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: But We've like done an event where afterwards I'm like, oh,

650
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: that wasn't the best we could do for you guys.

651
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, like, oh that didn't work. Let's

652
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: do this. It's a lot of troubleshooting because it's and

653
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: a lot.

654
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: Of learning, like a lot of learning. First bus to

655
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't know now we're like fifty five buses in.

656
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a lot of things that we've learned.

657
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: You know, with every bus we come back with some

658
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: type of learning how we want people to experience today.

659
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: And by the way, sometimes there's nothing we can do

660
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: about it. Like sometimes we can't. There's so many factors

661
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: that are just out of out of our control that

662
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: you know, we we try to do the best to

663
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: have it be a great experience, and I think it

664
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: always is. But because we know all the things, we

665
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: can be super.

666
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: Nitpicky about it, and because we want people to leave

667
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: the experience any experience with us feeling a certain type

668
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: of way, you know.

669
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: And I also think I guess the other thing just

670
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: about running it out or just like having an organization

671
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: or nonprofit is like what do you want it? And

672
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: it sounds weird, but like, what do you want it

673
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: to feel like? Because I do think you know, we

674
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: have a really clear idea of what we want everyone's

675
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: interaction with this is about humanity to feel like. We

676
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: want it to feel easy. We want it to feel

677
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: like inclusive and inclusive. We want it to feel like

678
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: you can just show up and that's all you need

679
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: to do, Like you can invite your friends, can you

680
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: can align yourselves, You'll find community, and.

681
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: That it's not all about money. Like yes, money is

682
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: a huge part and a very necessary part for us

683
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: to be able to keep the kitchen running, keep building

684
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: these learning libraries, keep doing all of these things, keep

685
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: having these events. But it's also about your time, like

686
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: giving your time and and and showing up for these families.

687
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they're so when we go to these events,

688
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: when we host these events, when we go to Tijuana,

689
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: the families are so happy that we're there. They feel seen,

690
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: they like our goal in those days is not to,

691
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, look at these families and feel bad for them.

692
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: Our goal is to look at these families, hear them,

693
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: and then and then and then make them feel like

694
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: we hear them, we see them, they matter, and they're

695
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: not forgotten. You know, like those are the things that

696
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: that is our goal, and that's how we want people

697
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: who volunteer to feel as well.

698
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: I know, I was talking to you know, we just

699
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: had our holiday party and I was talking to Veronica,

700
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: a good friend of ours who had gone to volunteer

701
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: with her daughter and her daughter's best friend, and she

702
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: told me, like, hey, I was talking to Sage and

703
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: her friend and they said, you know, we we've like

704
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: felt like okay, we're going to go volunteer to be fine.

705
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: But they were just saying that the experience of how

706
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: they felt just even interacting with these families, that it

707
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: ended up being so much more and so much more

708
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: meaningful than they ever thought it could be. And like

709
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: that to me was like, ah, the highest you know,

710
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: sort of like affirmation that like okay, no matter what,

711
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: like we're doing good and and people are feeling like

712
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: they're impacting people's lives. And we've had people who come

713
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: on buses, you know, like Bronico, who stayed in touch

714
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: with families who continue to help them. You've you know,

715
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: been a sponsor of a legal sponsor for aye.

716
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm a legal sponsor here for a family from Honduras.

717
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: They have three children, a mom, and a grandchild. And

718
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: I mean it's changed my life, its changed my kid's life.

719
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: I will say that holiday part my mom was in

720
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: the hospital and I was not my best self. I

721
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: could not stop crying, but no one knew. So it

722
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: was like I was just like I almost felt like

723
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: and then I'm so grateful that I have these two

724
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: incredible partners who I could say, like, I'm not okay.

725
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: But Ace for his bar mits for project this year,

726
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: raised money to do a toy table at this UH

727
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: holiday party, so that he raised over fifteen thousand dollars

728
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: and it was a table like as long as the

729
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: warehouse filled with toys that he picked up better, it

730
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: was better.

731
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: And also like he actually was like very specific and

732
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: intentional with what yeah picking.

733
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: He was picked every toy.

734
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: People were into it, because sometimes you've have toy tables

735
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't know that people are that excited.

736
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: But it was like every toy was.

737
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: He went age by age, you know, he really he

738
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: was very but I was so proud of him, and

739
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: that day was so emotional for me and I think

740
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I came up to you and I was like, I'm

741
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm not well, so I'm going to meet you to

742
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: help me out. And that is like partnership at its finest.

743
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I think in those moments, you know, in the moments

744
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: where we're learning from each other, you are very very straightforward.

745
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: You are You're moving a million miles a minute. I

746
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: am more sensitive. So it took us a second two.

747
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: I would be like, are you mad at me? And

748
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: You'd be like, I'm not thinking about you and I'd

749
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, okay.

750
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: You know what.

751
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: We had to really learn.

752
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: How to That was actually a funny. That was a funny,

753
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: like memory, remember that time when we thought we were

754
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: never going to be friends again and then somehow we

755
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: were sell it. I mean, it was that story basically

756
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: where Zoe was like, are you mad at me? Oh?

757
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you called me privileged? I did, and

758
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I.

759
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: Like, when I tell you, I did not. We didn't.

760
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: We both did not know if we were going to

761
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: come back from that.

762
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: I literally was like I'm done.

763
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: This is She was like fuck this shit, and I

764
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: was like and to me, you know, but that was

765
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: the first time.

766
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: So just to be fair. Like when we started this,

767
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I really didn't. I didn't. To me, privileged was a

768
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: negative connotation. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure you meant it

769
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: that way too.

770
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: We had just come back from a bus, mind you. Okay,

771
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: I've just been in charge of forty five people's safety

772
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: well being all the things.

773
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: Because we had to cross back.

774
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Yes, like by the way we go to a different country,

775
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 2: we come all the way back right Like we've heard these,

776
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: you know, heart wrenching stories where you cry, You're like,

777
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: oh my god. And you know, we get on the

778
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: we usually talk right after the bus to be like, hey,

779
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: what had you think this? That and the other? And

780
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: she's like in the first thing she does is were

781
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: you mad at me? And I was like, no, babe,

782
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: I no.

783
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: No, I think I texted you on the bus.

784
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: No, no, but yes, right after we got on the

785
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: bus from gatatas are you mad at me? And I

786
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: was like, no, not mad at you. Again, I'm a

787
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: super straight forward person. Not mad at you means I'm

788
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: not mad at you.

789
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm not used to super straight for our people.

790
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know, I guess the very beginning. Just

791
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: so we're clear, Just so we're clear, this was like

792
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: bus three. Okay, this is bus three year, this is

793
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: not even your one. This is like month two. We

794
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: get home, she calls me, hey, Babe, I just wanted

795
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: to make sure you weren't mad at me. And I

796
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: was like, I literally told you I wasn't mad at you.

797
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 2: And she's like, but I'm pretty sure you were mad

798
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: at me. I'm pretty sure you were mad at me.

799
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Babe, I was I'm not mad at you,

800
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: nor was I mad at you, although I'm getting kind

801
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: of mad right now.

802
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: We've had we've had moments like we communicate completely differently

803
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: and we have completely different backgrounds. So like like.

804
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: I like, babe, so I literally say, I wasn't even

805
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: I were not even thinking about you, Like when I

806
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: got on the bus, I'm making sure that I'm counting

807
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: how many people like and so this is why I said.

808
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: The fact that you think that I'm mad at you

809
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: or I'm thinking about you like might be it just

810
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: I did say privileged. And and then by the way,

811
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: it was like a nuke went off.

812
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: By the way, that moment I'll never forget because I

813
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: was able to say, like I was able to think

814
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: about it and take a few days, and I am privileged.

815
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: And that does come with sometimes thinking that without even

816
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: knowing it, you think that your importance or your needs

817
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: in that moment are like them. And and so I

818
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: had to learn and I had to check that about

819
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: myself because to me, it was always like, how do

820
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: I you know, I never wanted that to be but

821
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: but but I had to realize, like, Okay, this is

822
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: part you are who you are and learn to be better,

823
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: you know.

824
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: But it was such an important again, and one of

825
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: the things that I so appreciated about that moment and

826
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: even our relationship in the years after, is that you

827
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: genuinely do want to like you want to know, like, hey,

828
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: if there's something I need to work on, Like, I

829
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: genuinely want to know.

830
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: You're the same way.

831
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I have like a healer. You know,

832
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: you got all sorts of people who will tell you

833
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: all the tricks and things and I need I need

834
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: to get the cliff notes. But yeah, I'm the same

835
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: way too. By the way, I'm I'm always you know, it's.

836
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Actually got you a session with my healer and you

837
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: loved it.

838
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: No, I did love it. I really did that way.

839
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we both I think that is something we

840
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: both do and and it and and and the relationship

841
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: has grown so much in six years.

842
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I think that I it really has,

843
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, becoming partners and working closely with you has

844
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: really helped me be more sensitive to you know, two

845
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: different ways of communitydling, communicating, you know what I mean.

846
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: Like I think for me, who's such a as you said,

847
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: like straightforward person, you know, like if I were mad

848
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: at you, I would just be like I'm mad at you,

849
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And so I so it

850
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: was always confusing, like I what no I And then

851
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: you know, and for someone again who like measures every

852
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: output of everything, I was like okay, Like and then

853
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: you got to know me better and you would now

854
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: like if she were mad, she would say out.

855
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: But we started this, we were not friends like we

856
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: know each other and we would say hello to each

857
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: other and maybe give each other a hug and yeah,

858
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, but we were not like we were not

859
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: super close. We didn't and we really like our friendship

860
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: grew as the years have gone on, Like there were

861
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: years that we just like in O and we would

862
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: sort of like we were just going going down the

863
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: road and we were working really hard and we were

864
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: respectful of each other, but we weren't like hanging out,

865
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: you know. And I only feel like in the last

866
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: couple of years we've really grown to to get to

867
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: know each other as human beings, not just partners in business.

868
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful for that. I'm so thankful.

869
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: I know, same same. I think. You know, sometimes, you know,

870
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: we'll be having a conversation about something and you'll bring

871
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: something up and I'll be like, yeah, no, not even

872
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: about me, just like in general, like this thing happened

873
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: or like this person said this, and I'll be like, literally,

874
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 2: not about you. Yeah, it's And I think that that's

875
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: one of the things again that is showing up I'm

876
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: really good at. The Other thing I'm really good at

877
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: is like, literally I don't teach anything personally, Like I don't.

878
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: I've never met anyone like that. But you genuinely you're

879
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: not just saying that you don't. And I'm always like.

880
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm literally like, oh, I don't even care

881
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: like whatever, And I do feel like but it's it's

882
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: a I think it's an important skill because you know,

883
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: you always want I always want people to feel like

884
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: they can always come whenever they can, show up whenever

885
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: they can, and so a lot of times, I think,

886
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: especially in the nonprofit space, there's like pressure to do things,

887
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: to show up to whatever, and I'm like, great, like

888
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: we'll be here. This is going to happen regardless, So

889
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: like extra points if you're there. If you're not, the

890
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: people who are there are going to be super excited.

891
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to be super excited. And I do think, again,

892
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: what do we want? This is about humanity to feel

893
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: like we wanted to feel like a no pressure situation,

894
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: and so it really, it really has been an amazing

895
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: experience and also just an incredible way to even in

896
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: this time, you know, with the wildfires that are happening,

897
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: be an organization that can think about like, okay, yeah,

898
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: we usually focus obviously our north stars on these families

899
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: have been affected, but guess what, some of those same

900
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: families are being affected by this fire, and some of

901
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: the people in their extended family have been affected by

902
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: this fire. And some of our donors and our support systems,

903
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: some people who have helped us build this organization to

904
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: what it is today, have been everything.

905
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: Why don't you why don't you tell a little bit

906
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: about like what we are doing for this wildfire relief situation?

907
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh we I think we all maybe even on that

908
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: day as some of us were, you know, Zoe and

909
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: I live in LA.

910
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: We live in West LA. We were packing up, we

911
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: were both packing up to evacuate. We're like, well, what

912
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: are we going to do?

913
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing? Are you leaving? Are you

914
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: saying what's happening? And so I think even while that

915
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: was on our minds, we were also thinking like, how

916
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: do we set something up where we can really Yeah, yeah,

917
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: how can we help? And it's just as the trusted organization,

918
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: how can we do our best to support other organizations?

919
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: And so we launched the This is About Humanity Emergency

920
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: Fund for that Los Angeles wildfires, and we are supporting,

921
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: you know, frontline workers, second responders, immigrant families, and individuals

922
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: impacted by by the fire. We're you know, supporting organizations

923
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: on the ground who are giving emergency relief, cash assistance,

924
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: legal services, you know, essential needs, necessities. And I think

925
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: in a longer in the longer run, we will also

926
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: start to get engaged a little bit more in like

927
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: housing assistants and getting people sort of set up to

928
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: for a longer term, you know, solution. I think it's

929
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: like it's such a dynamic situation. I mean, even right now,

930
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: I think the Palisades fire is only twenty seven percent contained,

931
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, the eat and fire a little bit more.

932
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: So it's not like it's over. And of course, now

933
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: since we've all become meteorologists and wind experts, I know

934
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 2: that the wind is going to be picking up in

935
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: on Monday, and so talk about like I don't have anxiety,

936
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: but I also am now addicted to the watch study

937
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: app and I know all sorts of things about buyers

938
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: and so so yeah, so it's an amazing way that

939
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: we we have this ability to show up for people

940
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: when we can, and so I think it's been an

941
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: amazing experience we had. You know, we set out an

942
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: urgent call for fifty thousand dollars EVA Longoria match to

943
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: fifty quickly, and by the way, we probably have had

944
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: over two thousand donations come in, which is incredible, you

945
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: know for an organization like we're pretty small still, by

946
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 2: the way, to have that kind of support from everywhere

947
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: has just been really impressive.

948
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: I think it's also important to my dad always says

949
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: this whenever he talks about organization, but there's no staff,

950
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: it's the three of us, and then he's our fiscal sponsor.

951
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Like that's it. There's no like, there's no warehouse like

952
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: the warehouse has been our garages like it is. You know,

953
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: we are like a very thin grassroots organization that is

954
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: able to help people. Don't like donate where where it

955
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: is going to be safely and and respectfully attributed distributed.

956
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I feel like, you know, we some people

957
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: be like, so who should I see see? I'm like me, Yeah,

958
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: there is no assistant, there is no you know, X person,

959
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: And so sometimes it makes me laugh because I, you know,

960
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: I dream of having someone help me do something. But

961
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: you know, then by the time I think about like that,

962
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I should just do everything myself.

963
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't feel like delegating is your is

964
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: your is your strong suit?

965
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: Mmm? I mean if I could like clone myself, yeah, yeah,

966
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: I would love to delegate to to another me. Yeah

967
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: for sure, I would like that. Yeah. No, it's been

968
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: you know, these past this past week has just been

969
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: obviously challenging for so many people, obviously, people who've lost

970
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: everything and people who've had to evacuate people who've been

971
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: close to areas. You know, I think there there is

972
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: this sort of collective like, you know, we're all not

973
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: all of our shoulders are just up a little bit,

974
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: you know, and we we just want to do the

975
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: best we can for our community, you know. And I

976
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: think that that's that's kind of where we're at right now.

977
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: I know that you have so much on your plate,

978
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: but if you could like magically start one more thing,

979
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: what would it be?

980
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

981
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh let's see you could add like one more project,

982
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: what would that project be?

983
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. You know, I would love to have

984
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: someone sort of say, hey, you've been on the ground

985
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: in so many different places and spaces. You've seen important

986
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: work that grassroots ors are doing, different individuals in different spaces.

987
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Like here is like, here's a blank slate for a

988
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: blank slate for you to make the change that you

989
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: think is best and go out and do that. Because

990
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: I think that, like, you know, as a I have

991
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: a consulting company, and I do a lot of work

992
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: in a social impact space, and you know, it's depending,

993
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: it's dependent on different projects and different focuses, and so

994
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, you know, this is recumended is a

995
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: good example, right, this is not this is not our job, right,

996
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: We're not getting paid.

997
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: We don't make it. We don't make a sense, we.

998
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: Don't make a sent we don't take a salary, you know.

999
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: But it is very genuinely like a project that I

1000
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: would do like in my regular work, except for that

1001
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: it's a passion project that we do because it's you know,

1002
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: it matters to us and it's important. And so I

1003
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: think that a version of that, you know, but in

1004
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: a broader in a broader way like elsa, go make

1005
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: some change, and.

1006
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Well if anyone can do it, you can do it.

1007
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: So oh for sure, I'm like ready, look at us,

1008
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: look at us, look at us, look at us. Okay, well,

1009
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: I hope that's amazing. Thanks, iHeart, don't forget give what

1010
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: in the Winkler Pod? A follow on Instagram at what

1011
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: in the Winkler Pod?

1012
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: What in the Winkler Pod? And also there's people trying

1013
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: to like make fake accounts. It's what in the Winkler

1014
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Pod not podcast?

1015
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 2: Oh what in the Winkler pod pod?

1016
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: That's right.

1017
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: If you don't follow it, Zoe might take you down

1018
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: like you put that cake company.

1019
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: Down so handsOn Now it was Handson's. Everyone it was Handso.

1020
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: I didn't say it.

1021
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: Tell a friend, please listen. Thank you for listening. You

1022
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: guys are the best and I will see you next week.

1023
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: S