1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:00,640 Speaker 1: Ladies. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, well, buckle up, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: sweet cheeks. We've got all the experience in the world. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: This is I want your flex. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: With Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: down everything you need to set your lineups, from position rankings. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: To starts and sits. 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: let's get your flexide. Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: Hey, welcome in. 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday by Garment. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: Dan Bayer with you. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 4: We're pleased to be with you talking about the NFC 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 4: East for fantasy purposes. Last week we did the AFC East, 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: and you've got Josh Allen, you got eight Chan, you 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 4: got a couple of heavyweights, and then you've got a 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: bunch of question right well, even going down to Tyreek 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: Hill and guys that had been fantasy heroes in the past, 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: it's what's their role, what's the offense look like? 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: Is discord? Are they still with the team when we 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: actually break camp? 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 4: Because you still have some of those little rumors floating 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: out there in the NFL world. But when we look 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: at the NFC East, you know, writing down based on 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: where Fantasy pros rankings are on average. Right now for 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 4: the early draft returns, we've got two quarterbacks in the 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: NFC East coming into the top five. Jaden Daniels coming 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: in at number three, with Jalen Hurts right behind him. 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: I might have them flipped. And there's something with Washington 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: that in terms of they're over under win total and successes, 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: while Daniels may be a better, more efficient quarterback to 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 4: the numbers, wins and everything else follow. 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: Not to mention the. 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin part of the equation right just sitting out there, 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: he's currently ADP wide receiver seventeen in PPR leagues and 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: he's very unhappy with his contract not showing up now 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: does that settle of that more likely than not, but 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 4: it does add a wrinkle to things. For a team 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: that greatly overachieved. They bring in Deebo Samuel as his 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: number two. So that just the curiosity up top when 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: you're looking at a guy like Jaden Daniels. 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm paying the tax. 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: You're not. I am, and I am paying a lot 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: of it. 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: And the reason being is I think that that Daniels 46 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: gets his points for Washington fantasy wise, whether they're winning 47 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: or not. And if you look at kind of how 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: last year transpired, it was a mostly successful year for Washington, 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 5: but early on they lost the season opening game to 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: the Buccaneers. 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: They had their field goal. 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: Fest against the Giants that they ended up winning, but 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 5: you had Jaden Daniels doing some damage with his legs 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: at that point. That still continued, Mike, but he wasn't 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: getting into the end zone via touchdown runs. He was 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: doing so via touchdown passes later on in the season. 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: So that to me is whether Washington is up or down. 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: And they may be ten and seven this year, they 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 5: may be nine and eight, they may be fourteen and three. 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 5: I don't know how it doesn't change for Jaden Daniels. 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 5: And the additions that they made Laramie Tounsel now at 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: left tackle better for Daniels in that way. No real 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 5: addition at the running back position. So now you've got 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 5: Eckler and Robinson kind of doing the same thing. So 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: you're not giving the football to somebody who you just 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 5: gave a bunch of money to that you need to 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: force feed that would maybe take away from Daniels. And 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: you added Debo with where you can use him as 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: a Swiss army knife, but may help in just even 70 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: short little passes and screens that end up going for further. 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: So I'm higher. You're high on Jayden Daniels, don't get 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 5: me wrong, but I still would take him over Jalen Hurts. 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, finish as QB five a year ago, about thirty 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: points higher than QB six, who is Jared Goff and 75 00:03:54,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: just behind Baker Mayfield with the Holing Trinity, keeping with 76 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: the sin Centers, tame of Jackson, Allen and Burrow. 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 5: At the time, I think there's a real chance tougher schedule. 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: We know how many coin flips they won last year. 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 5: Look at how many times you look at Washington and said, 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 5: man that they escape right. 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about that. And it all started 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: with a Giant play. 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 5: I mentioned the Giants game where the Giants didn't have 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: a field goal kicker because they didn't plan for Lawrence 85 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 5: Time's getting hurt in the first quarter and so they 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 5: couldn't They couldn't kick throughout the game, and that's how 87 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 5: they won with seven field goals. They won a game 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 5: against New Orleans that was right at the buzz, like 89 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 5: they won crazy games last year, and at some point 90 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 5: those aren't going to go your way. And Mike in 91 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: the same breath with Philadelphia for as great as everything went, 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 5: and now you have a Super Bowl championship with you, 93 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: I think there's destined to be a bit of a pullback. 94 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: I just don't know where it comes. I don't know 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 5: if it comes from Jalen Hurts. I don't know if 96 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 5: it comes from Saquon Barkley, who was magnificent. But I 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 5: would expect some regression at that point. 98 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: So let's go into them a bit. 99 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: You know, with Hurts, obviously the tush push remains, so 100 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: you'll get your rushing touchdown as much as the sugar 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: in of the Saquon Barkley owners out there. Barkley coming 102 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: in at number three on the draft board right now, 103 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: the continued run of you know, hey, b Jon Robinson's 104 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: going to. 105 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: Be that guy. He condus to push that so that 106 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: that works. 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: But he's third, and then you have Aj Brown at ten, 108 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: DeVante Smith coming into twenty three, so it's fantasy starters. 109 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: I was curious as and then we look at the 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 4: other two quarterbacks, dak at fifteen. 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's way too low. 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 5: I know the Deck's numbers went how they weren't magnificent 113 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 5: last year, But Mike, I also think in the same 114 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: way as we look at Washington, my take on Dallas 115 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: is there not going to be as good of a 116 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 5: football team. I don't know if they really addressed the 117 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: running back room. There's new face there. 118 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: Javontae Williams is not the answer. 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, correct, Jayden Blewen actually may end up being the 120 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 5: answer for Dallas. But so now you've added George Pickens 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 5: via trade, so you're gonna want to cash that in. 122 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 5: I don't think they're better defensively, so they're probably gonna 123 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 5: have to score points. All of that, to me leads 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: to a better situation with Dak. And maybe the thing 125 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 5: that's keeping Saquon from the number one spot is the 126 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: possibility of injury or from his history. I'm wondering if 127 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 5: that's what's bringing Dak down so much down to fifteen, 128 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 5: because I actually think there's a lot of potential win 129 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: or lose for the Cowboys. 130 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: The only way that they're gonna win any games. 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 5: Is if Dak's throwing the ball to Ceed Lamb and 132 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 5: George Pickens and Jake Ferguson, the only reason they're gonna 133 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 5: lose games is if they lose games, Dak's still gonna 134 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 5: be throwing the football. 135 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 136 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: I know Brian Schottenneimer is gonna do things differently, but 137 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 5: I just don't know how you can with that running 138 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 5: back room. 139 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 4: Ferguson at twelve a mon tight ends. That was one 140 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 4: that I circled as potential value proposition with the two 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: heavyweight wide receivers, assuming Pickens gets along with everybody in 142 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: the room, we continue our fantasy previews, going division by division. 143 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: We look at the AFC West and the tea's was 144 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: a star losing twenty five pounds. Will it make him 145 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: a better fantasy player? For myself, I think my brain's 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: a little bit sharper. I'm being able to stay up 147 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: a little later, so yeah, it might. It might help 148 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: my twenty twenty five prognostication. When we get to the 149 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: I want your Flex podcast in earnest here coming up. 150 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: You can find all old episodes up wherever you get 151 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: your podcast. As Dan and I and our guy Ian 152 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: Roddy get back into the lab. But according to reports 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: from Jeremy Foller of ESPN, Travis Kelcey's down twenty five pounds. Now, 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: he was at the Stanley Cup final the other day, 155 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: great shot after shot, and I know either folks were 156 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: incensed at their arrival or we're happy to see an 157 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: extra storyline. When all of a sudden, the camera pans 158 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: to Travis kelce and Taylor Swift. 159 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: They did. 160 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: She then went to the children's hospital Nextit like, there's 161 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: lots in Florida and there's a lot of stuff to it. 162 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: But and now that that series, you know, Florida taking 163 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: the stranglehold in theory on Saturday Night. But Kelsey reportedly 164 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: losing twenty five pounds this offseason. Now, Taylor Swift's eras 165 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: tour ended last year, so no longer on tour and 166 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: being plied with brats and beers at every turn. So 167 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: back in the lab as it were going into his 168 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: age thirty six campaign, they're saying he's at like two 169 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: twenty to two twenty five, so lean and mean last year. 170 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: It didn't look the same for fantasy purposes. Still ninety 171 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: seven yards or ninety seven catches, eight hundred and twenty 172 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: three yards, only three touchdowns, but that's still a pretty 173 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: pretty good year. Pretty serviceable year. Now, if you had 174 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: some help on the outside, it pushes it over and 175 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: the team gets over. But certainly from a fan point, 176 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: he had the regression ninety seven catches. That's a lot 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: of work between the hedges, and he had to block 178 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: a lot more last year. 179 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's I think there's a lot of 180 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 5: interesting stuff to look between the the weight that he 181 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 5: lost and his actual numbers. But the thing that I 182 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 5: actually love about this, and I don't think that this 183 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: happens with every athlete Mike, is just the dropping of 184 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: the optics, the dropping of the weight for the optics, 185 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: because the last time we saw Travis kelce was Travis 186 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 5: Kelcey maybe not giving it as one hundred percent in 187 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty nine. So now when there's a question 188 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 5: of are you going to play next year? Are you 189 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 5: not going to play? And there was a decision that 190 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: he made weeks after that, Yeah he's going to come back. 191 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 5: I say good on Travis Kelcey. Whether he still has 192 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 5: it or not, we'll find out in twenty twenty five. 193 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 5: But I think just the optics of being like, I've 194 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 5: got to be better, because the takeaways from that Super Bowl, 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 5: the ones from the chief side. Travis Kelcey not playing 196 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 5: as hard as you thought that he should in a 197 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 5: Super Bowl was one of those people thought, just there. 198 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: Are a couple of yeah, step slow and really not 199 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: engaging in blocking efforts and route running. 200 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 201 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: Sure. 202 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 5: So I have no idea if the weight loss will 203 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: help him during the season. I do know that it's 204 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: going to help him optically on the type of player 205 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 5: you are, and may then also reflect on maybe why 206 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 5: these last two seasons haven't been as great and maybe 207 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 5: we know he's on the there's he's played more years 208 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: than he's got left in his career, for sure, but 209 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: maybe this frees him up. Maybe he doesn't block now 210 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 5: as much anymore because he's taken the weight off. Maybe 211 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 5: they will use him more in situations in just red 212 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: zone spots. I mean just eight combined touchdowns the last 213 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 5: two seasons in times when we thought that he would 214 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 5: be the loan target. 215 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I am. 216 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 5: I don't think that you can get any worse than 217 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 5: what he did last season numbers wise for touchdowns and yards. 218 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: So him losing that weight I am all aboard for, 219 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: but more so because of the optics than just him 220 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: bettering his stats from twenty twenty four. 221 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you look at what he was doing 222 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: the rounds and popping up at all the swift European 223 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: dates and global dates. 224 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: It became a does he want to do this anymore? 225 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: Right? We asked that about Aaron Rodgers ad nauseams. You know, 226 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: he finally shows up and gets his contract signed, and 227 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: you know, you bring out the noise makers from New 228 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: Year's for that because it's a story that is now 229 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: done and now we get to see whether he and 230 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: Arthur Smith get along and what this iteration of the 231 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 4: Steelers offense looks like. But it's always the when we're 232 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: off the field and it's like, all right, are you training? 233 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: Are you still committed? Now? 234 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: Did you earn some of it based on the Chiefs runs? 235 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: Because that's the other side you get have said, hey, 236 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: you know, be ready to go. Well he was kind 237 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: of right, still have some decent numbers and a couple 238 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: of games where he took over and showed you glimpses. 239 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: But if you're carrying that extra weight, you're being charged 240 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: to do other things because your offensive line is struggling 241 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: a bit, you're trying to jumpstart a run game that 242 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 4: frankly wasn't very good for most of the season. Rice 243 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: goes down to injury, takes a while for Xavi. You're 244 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 4: worthy to catch up. We'll get to him in a minute, 245 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: and the receivers, but it's just all of that becomes 246 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: a all right. By the end of the year, he's 247 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: got nothing left. He looks like every day of his 248 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: thirty five plus years on this earth. So now you can, 249 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 4: at least in theory, leaner, meaner, run him in the 250 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: slot wherever you're going to line him up, that maybe 251 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: you can coax an extra big year, because I think 252 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: Kansas City is one of those squads that people are 253 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: starting to dismiss and throw away. I was caution that 254 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: as much as you think the rest of the AI 255 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: see West may have caught up, you still got to 256 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: knock them off. 257 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Good point. 258 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 5: I feel like you're talking directly to me, because I 259 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 5: feel like I am one of those people who's kind 260 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: of not as bullish on the Chiefs. They are a 261 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 5: different team than they were earlier in his career. They 262 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 5: are a defensive team now as opposed to an offensive team. 263 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 5: If this is going to help them in red zone 264 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: situations and allow him to extend his career. 265 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: Kudos to him doing so. 266 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 5: The real I guess shock to the system for me 267 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: when it came to Travis Kelcey, and I would assume 268 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: it's for you. Was it when a couple of years 269 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: ago in fantasy football we had Mark Andrews, you know, 270 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 5: replace him, supplant him a top the tight end rankings 271 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 5: and then there was so much love for Sam Laporta 272 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 5: last year, so you would see Laporta maybe top him 273 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 5: in rankings. And now Brock Bauers is in the NFL. 274 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: So and as Kelsey has continued his career, it's not 275 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 5: that he's been number two. So when he was replaced 276 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: by Andrews, maybe he was two. Then then he was 277 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 5: to three or four, and now he's not to that 278 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: point anymore. So maybe the value you get for Travis 279 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 5: Kelcey will be a lot better than what you expected 280 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 5: over these last couple of years, whether he's twenty five 281 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 5: pounds lighter or not. But I just love the optics 282 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 5: of it of being like, yeah, I didn't the super 283 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: Bowl did not look was not a good look for me. 284 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: I got to do something different. 285 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: As we look at it currently, Fantasy Prosanaham dot Com, 286 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: I put my rankings up week to week there and 287 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 4: we'll make sure to evangelize on those better here in 288 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five season, and certainly wants the draft process. 289 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: And I get to ranking, which starts this week. Kelsey 290 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: sixth amongst tight ends. We've got three guys from the 291 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: AFC West in the top seven because obviously the aforementioned 292 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: Brock hours far and away number one. Evan Ingram coming 293 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: in at number seven. 294 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 5: Opportunity in Denver. I loved him in Jacksonville, and then 295 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 5: there were just I mean, a lot of things disappeared 296 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: in Jacksonville at times, but he. 297 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Disappeared as well. 298 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: I don't know this division, Mike, just as a whole 299 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: is to me, is screaming defense and in a way 300 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: ball control. And I feel that Denver is better defensively 301 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: than they are offensively. The Chiefs are better defensively than 302 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 5: they are offensively. I think the Chargers play a brand 303 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: of football where the offense and defense work together. And 304 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: then you have the Raiders. 305 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: That's no diffist. 306 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 4: But the Raiders with two guys in the top five 307 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: for their position. Sure, because genty is currently the ADP 308 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: fourth highest ranked running back. Wow, he comes in at forth. 309 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: And this is where it gets interesting. Right we talked 310 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: about defense normally complimented by a big running game. You 311 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: got gent coming in at fourth, and then you look 312 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: at the rest of the division. Omarion Hampton twenty first, okay, RJ. 313 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: Harvey coming in twenty sixth, and then just ahead of him, 314 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: Isaiah Checko at twenty fifth, and then we go to 315 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: the quarterback side. Okay, ready, they just then well, if 316 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: these guys are low, what's going on over here? 317 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes still sixth? 318 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I feel it's high, but ye. 319 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: Oo, Nicks at number eight, Wow, I. 320 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Mean that's really high. 321 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: And then justin Herbert at eleven, I head of Gino 322 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: all the way down at number twenty five. Jano represents 323 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: value for me down there. There are weeks you're gonna 324 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: end up playing him. 325 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: I think. 326 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 327 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 5: I don't I don't know where Caleb Williams is on 328 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 5: this list, but I just know that you've got Lamar, 329 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 5: You've got Josh Allen, You've got Jalen Hurts. All those 330 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 5: guys would be higher than Bo Nicks, and I just 331 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 5: I'm shocked in that scenario. And Mahomes as well, I 332 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: just wouldn't feel comfortable with them as my starting quarterbacks 333 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: if I'm playing Week one, unless I decided to completely 334 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 5: punt on the situation. And for as great of a 335 00:16:54,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 5: season as bo Nicks had as a rookie quarterback, I 336 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 5: think it's the Sean Payton factor, I'll say to that. 337 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Sure, the Mahomes one is. 338 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 5: That's the one that's sticking in my mind when you 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: bring that up, because it's not I think that they're 340 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: bad on offense anymore. I just think they do things 341 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 5: differently now and you can count on him to win games, 342 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 5: and that's what it's all about. We saw good they 343 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: were in close games last year, and how they've always 344 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: been good in close games. That to me is more 345 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: of the thing that trumps anything, because I look at 346 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: this division, Mike, and those numbers are flying in the 347 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: opposite of what I say, but again as a division 348 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 5: that is more controlled by defense than it is offense. 349 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 5: The Genti factor, And just to make that point, I 350 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 5: actually understand that because I think that there are three 351 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: running backs that you would say, all right, we just 352 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 5: they're freaks of nature. We like the situation, we love 353 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 5: their offenses. Let's go Bijon Saquan and Jimior Gibbs, but 354 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 5: you take everybody under Ashton jen I'm looking at your rankings. 355 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 5: We're still wondering if Derek Henry's gonna fall off a 356 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: cliff Devani chan Is. 357 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing. 358 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 5: In mind, I think, yeah, they're gonna have one of 359 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 5: the worst offensive lines in the league. He could be 360 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: the only thing that they have. But with that, there's 361 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 5: also been some injury history. Christian McCaffrey, same thing, Jonathan Taylor, 362 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: same thing. Josh Jacob's coming off of a great season. 363 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 5: Maybe that would be one where I'd be like, huh, okay, well, 364 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 5: maybe I'd rather have the Josh Jacobs factor. But they 365 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: also have Chip Kelly in Las Vegas, and you know 366 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 5: how much Chip Kelly loves to run the football, And 367 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 5: with really no other real competition, it makes sense that 368 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 5: gent is going to be the. 369 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: Guy rising up. Everywhere else, we're looking at guys like 370 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: Bucky Irving, Chase Brown and others that start to creep 371 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 4: into the back end of that top ten. So just 372 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 4: the curiosity there from a receiving standpoint, again, not guys 373 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: jumping to the top of the line. Outside of Bowers 374 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: and the under tight ends in division, you're looking at 375 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: Rashid Rice at seventeen and mconkey comes in at number 376 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: eleven talking about PPR leagues becoming the norm. So just 377 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: you know, the Ronco set it and forget it. I 378 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: got five and thirty before I blink. In terms of 379 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 4: its game to game production. Herbert at eleven is just 380 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: he's one of the more fascinating guys because everyone keeps 381 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 4: trying to trumpet the this is the year he breaks out. 382 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: It's like, that's not how they want to play. You 383 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: brought up the way Mahomes is now right, last two 384 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: years twenty six twenty seven touchdowns into double digit interceptions 385 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: QBR and all that stuff, fun stuff that folks go 386 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: down in the high nineties. With justin Herbert, you've built 387 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: an offense and a system with Jim Harbaugh that they 388 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 4: don't want him throwing for five thousand yards and thirty 389 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: five touchdowns if the defense lives up to what they're 390 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: supposed to be. And Hampton is the half the running 391 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: back that he's been trumpeted as right because as the 392 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 4: draft war on process war on, I should say, yeah, 393 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: genty was first, but you started to hear the buzz 394 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: of maybe possibly whatever, and then he finds a place 395 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: and a home with a guy who wants to run 396 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: the ball. In Harbaugh, you're gonna be working for balance, 397 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: so you might have a couple of blow up games, 398 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: and he did. Last year, he had a couple of 399 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: Herbert games like, oh, that's the outlier, and I think 400 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: that'll be the case again. Now in terms of ranking eleventh, 401 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: it becomes the cumulative effect or maybe the offensive line 402 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: is good enough. And this is where we parse out 403 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: the week to week starter versus best ball season when 404 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: we look at rankings, because Herbert might actually still be 405 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 4: standing unlike a lot of other quarterbacks based on those 406 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 4: behemos he's got working in front of him in all Slater, 407 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: et cetera. 408 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they sign McKay Beckton this offseason, so like 409 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 5: of their signings on offense, it's Beckton and Najie Harris. 410 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 5: So how much does that help justin Herbert? Probably not 411 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: too much, but it helps the Chargers as a team. 412 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: Right, Jagie Harris will fall forward for three point eight, 413 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: three point nine, but they'll use them right. No, But 414 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 4: but that's what Pittsburgh did the great success. Correct, the 415 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: numbers weren't gaudy meme. Jalen Warren was the more explosive guy. 416 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: But three yards and a cloud of dust is winning football. 417 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: Whether it wins you fantasy or not becomes the other issue. 418 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 5: And there's only so many stats per game, you know, 419 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: snaps per game, excuse me, and the stats that are 420 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: going to Harris then likely wouldn't be going to Herbert 421 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 5: unless they were obviously in passing situations. I did look 422 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 5: up one quick stat of the AFC West, and this 423 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 5: is why I'm so surprised. Yards per play. Last year, 424 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: the Chargers were tied for fifteenth in the NFL with 425 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: about five point four. The rest of the AFC was 426 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: in the bottom half of the league. So the Chargers 427 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: at fifteen were that was the high point for teams 428 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 5: in the AFC West and yards per play, so that 429 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 5: should tell you a little bit on the type of 430 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: offense that you're looking for in that division that I 431 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 5: just don't necessarily think is there. Raiders were twenty eighth, 432 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 5: Kansas City was twenty second, Denver was twentieth. 433 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 4: Inside the numbers, We'll be doing more of this. Did 434 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: I watch flex podcast? Get it downloaded? On your iHeartRadio app, 435 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: wherever you get your audio. 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