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Speaker 1: M M. What's up, everybody. Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Wrestling with Freddy, and I'm so glad to have

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Speaker 1: you here on another Wednesday or whatever day you got

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Speaker 1: to listen to this on. If you're in your car,

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Speaker 1: too too horribly awful. If you're watching old wrestling matches

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Speaker 1: while you're listening to this, shout out to YouTube. And

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Speaker 1: if you're just tuning in for the first time, you

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Speaker 1: can catch all our previous episodes at the same spot

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this one right now. And uh, come

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Speaker 1: with us on the journey. Welcome to the Federation, and

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Speaker 1: welcome Wrestling with Freddy. Now stuffing up to the mic,

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Speaker 1: the host of Wrestling with Freddy, Freddie Prince tune. All right,

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Speaker 1: you guys, we're gonna do another deep dive. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the Dolf Ziggler deep dive. I like going in

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Speaker 1: and re examining the careers of people I was lucky

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Speaker 1: them grow despite speed bumps, or see them grow even

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Speaker 1: with the greatest push of all time. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: fun to dive into that. So we're doing it again,

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Speaker 1: only this time we're doing it with an old school

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Speaker 1: legend Ziggler and old school he just old. Oh. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: today's episode, I'm gonna deep dive on someone who affected

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Speaker 1: me deeply while I worked there. And if you're familiar

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Speaker 1: with this show, we've talked about him a little bit

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Speaker 1: in some of the acting classes. Today's episode is all

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Speaker 1: about Mr William Regal. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, we're

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Speaker 1: going British today. We're going to be very proper. There

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Speaker 1: will be no cursing on this episode, although the Brits

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Speaker 1: can curse. Boy, But this was a guy I learned

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Speaker 1: a lot more from than he realized when I was there.

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Speaker 1: I think he's heard since then because I've I've told

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Speaker 1: to share a couple Well, first I want to share

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Speaker 1: the reasons why, and then as a kid, and then

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Speaker 1: why I learned to respect him as a rational. Oh

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Speaker 1: but we're side questing right away before we get into

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Speaker 1: that I love wrestling very much and I'm and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sensitive about it, but I'm very protective about it.

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Speaker 1: When I first took the job at w w E,

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Speaker 1: I said, look, I'm not trying to to change the business.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to do anything like that. This was

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Speaker 1: So I get very protective of wrestling sometimes, and when

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Speaker 1: I've been asked on social media, Hey, would you go

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Speaker 1: and this is my opinion, this is what worked for

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Speaker 1: There are other people. They're depending on your ideas and

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Speaker 1: with their own. And if you're half assent, how we

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Speaker 1: So it's I those are the things I get protective about.

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Speaker 1: And so I got this weird email from the friendly

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they were just great storytellers or trash talkers. They

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Speaker 1: Twitch emailed me and get this, not only did did

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Speaker 1: So I emailed this this nice guy back and he

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Speaker 1: not me. Um, But I wrote, I said, I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: me know that you guys aren't committed, and for you

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Speaker 1: just called constructive criticism. This isn't hating on anyone. I said,

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Speaker 1: you have dozens of streamers right now for Twitch that

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Speaker 1: not to listen to that show. That's not the way

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Speaker 1: You guys and gals, thank you for tuning in each week.

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Speaker 1: So I'm working at w w E, I'm writing, and

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like I don't leave. I've never heard anyway

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Speaker 1: William Regal supposed to come in and he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: this match is going to win the match. But there

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Speaker 1: one to three, and damn was there. I would like

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Speaker 1: all of you go on to YouTube and type William Regal,

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Speaker 1: although it might have been Steven Regal back then, but

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Speaker 1: And my mind is just getting blown because not only

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Speaker 1: present day. William Regal he's left w W E or

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Speaker 1: was let go? He was basically the character that was

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Speaker 1: then behind the scenes, I don't know if he was

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Speaker 1: that was triple h and I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: sure his his opinion was respected and listened to. So

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Speaker 1: he debuts in a e W a few months later

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Speaker 1: in the middle of this conflict between John Moxley and

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Speaker 1: Daniel Bryant, and I love Daniel Bryant. He can somehow

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Speaker 1: It's it's just unique. There's something special about him when

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Speaker 1: he goes hell. Everybody loves him as a baby face. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that's what got on the championship, but I always preferred

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Speaker 1: him as this sort of I don't even know how

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Speaker 1: to describe the type of heel he is. It's just

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Speaker 1: this confident screw you No, it's I don't even know

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Speaker 1: he could. I'm not as good as him, so I

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Speaker 1: can't explain it. But he had this great conflict with Moxley,

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Speaker 1: and they both have connections to William Regal from when

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Speaker 1: they were young wrestlers coming up and training and learning

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Speaker 1: the ropes. He had an influence in both their lives.

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Speaker 1: All the smart fans in the audience know this. All

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Speaker 1: the fans in the audience at this a e W

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Speaker 1: show love William Regal the way I love William Regal,

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Speaker 1: because everyone except Bill Goldberg loves William Regal. This man

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Speaker 1: comes out, the crowd goes crazy. He gets in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the ring and he's basically berating both men,

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Speaker 1: why are you fighting each other when you if you

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Speaker 1: work together, you could take over this entire company. And

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Speaker 1: they both kind of get in his face, or Moxley does,

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Speaker 1: and Regal slaps him right across it like the way

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Speaker 1: a father in the sixties slaps his son, and Moxley

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Speaker 1: you don't talk snack to the boss, bro Bow. Regal

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Speaker 1: smacks in and his reaction is twice as good as Moxley's,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the crowd is just they

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Speaker 1: love They love this because he's a real dude, a

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Speaker 1: to have his face there is just this feel good, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're moving in the right direction kind of thing. No

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Speaker 1: one's ever said a bad thing about Regal, and if

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Speaker 1: they have it's time. It's them issue, not a Hymn issue,

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Speaker 1: or it was early in his career as as a

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Speaker 1: veteran and behind the scenes producer. He is a gem

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Speaker 1: of a human being. And I know people who know

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Speaker 1: him to this day, who have worked with him to

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Speaker 1: this day, and he is a gem of a human beings.

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Speaker 1: So if you ever hear anything bad about William Regal,

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Speaker 1: you let me know. You let me know, and I

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Speaker 1: will handle it and would love to. We've had Look,

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Speaker 1: we've had Tony conn on the show. We got to

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Speaker 1: reach out to Tony. We gotta get Regal on the show.

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Speaker 1: I would love to get his reaction to some of this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he remembers it differently. I don't know. Oh, here's

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Speaker 1: here's the side quest. This is the stupidest side quest ever.

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Speaker 1: All right. I was telling you, I know wrestlers that

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Speaker 1: that no Regal and and they speak highly of him,

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Speaker 1: and I pitched this idea. So I want to preface

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Speaker 1: this by saying this was a joke. All right. I

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Speaker 1: texted my buddy, I said, A do you think if

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Speaker 1: I did a bunch of steroids and human growth hormone

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Speaker 1: and up my calorie intake to like forty five to

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Speaker 1: five thousand calories a day, but only did legs? Would

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Speaker 1: only my legs get huge? And follow up question, how

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Speaker 1: much would you pay to watch that guy wrestle? So

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Speaker 1: these are see serious. Even though it's a joke, there's

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Speaker 1: serious questions. Would my legs get super jacked like Wiley

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Speaker 1: Kyote in the road Runner cartoon when he takes the

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Speaker 1: leg vitamins vitamins just for your legs and his legs

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Speaker 1: got hella swolt And my finisher would just be a

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Speaker 1: drop kick, just a regular drop kick, but you have

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Speaker 1: but my legs are so buffed you would have to

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Speaker 1: sell it like it was the sickest wrestling move that's

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Speaker 1: ever been hit. Ever, you could call me King quads,

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Speaker 1: Baby King quads. So that's what I'm gonna do, you guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm not joking. I'm deadly serious. I'm gonna take everything,

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Speaker 1: the growths, the steroids, the guerrillas, sweats, the I'll rub

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Speaker 1: deer antlers all over my quads every night before I

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Speaker 1: go to sleep, and they'll grow exponentially at night, and

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Speaker 1: I'll become King Quads. Now, granted, there may not be

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Speaker 1: a brand out there promotion willing to hire me, but

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Speaker 1: I'll create my own damn brand and the drop Kick

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Speaker 1: is making a comeback people. That's the dumbest story I've

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Speaker 1: ever told. And I've never really into an episode on

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Speaker 1: sort of a huh kind of feeling, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like we've done a great job of that today. So

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening, and we're gonna do an episode

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Speaker 1: that's totally dedicated to y'all, which have made this podcast

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Speaker 1: so much fun and I'm so proud of it. I

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Speaker 1: really am. I'm so proud of it, and I know

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Speaker 1: we're doing good when weirdos out there who don't give

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Speaker 1: a crap about wrestling are like, hey, do you want

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Speaker 1: to do something about wrestling? Yes, I do. I'm already

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Speaker 1: doing it, and I'm doing it with you guys the Federation.

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