WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Scarface 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.760 Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.080 was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.959 What's Up, Everybody? It's Sugasteau from Team Supreme. June marks 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.800 Black Music Month. We often speak about it on Questlove 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.320 Supreme and we've had some of the legends responsible for 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.119 the recognition on the show. Every day this June, we 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.119 are running a different episode from the QLs archives to 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:28.319 honor the tradition and attendant of Black Music Month. This 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.480 week we are focusing on some of the great hip. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.519 Hop conversations in the QLs catalog. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.560 Our leader Questlove has a new book out called hip 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:39.400 Hop's History. Check it out at questlove dot com. Today, 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.599 we look back at a twenty eighteen interview with the 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.120 one and Only Scarface. Earlier this month, the Houston legend 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.320 performed at the Ruse Picnic. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.120 Listen back as he talks ghetto boys, solo career, and 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:50.840 much more. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.280 Four Boys of what You'll see a genius We go. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:15.880 Supremo, Supremo, Supremo, Role, Supremo, Supremo, Supremo, Supremo Role. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.160 Yeah, my words in my bass, Yeah, I called you 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.280 don't fuck it. That's all. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:31.360 Supremo Supremo Role Supremo Supremo. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:36.200 Rod My name is Fante Yeah, Pure Satisfaction. Yeah, with 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:43.360 the King of the South. Yeah, DJ Action Supremo Supremo, 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.280 Role called Supremo. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:48.080 Roll call. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:49.520 My name is Sugar Yo. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:50.000 Yeah. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:55.240 I'm disappointed though I thought I was gonna meet Al Pacino. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:03.240 Supreval roll Suprema Son Son Supremo. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.000 Roll call. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.760 I'm on pay Bill. Yeah, not feeling mad. Yeah, welcome 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.400 Scarface Yeah, real name Brad. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:19.160 Suprema Supremo. Roll called Suprema Son Supremo. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.720 Roll call best like em Yeah with scarfre is in 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.000 the place. Yeah, and it feels real weird. Yeah, but 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.519 I love Faces Rome. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.960 Supremo. Roll cueing up right now, sure, roll call. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:41.880 My name is Space Yeah at X Yeah, talk that ship. Yeah, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.320 I'm the best. Roll call. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:53.760 Suppreval roll call Brema Sun Sun, roll call Suprema Son 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:55.119 Sun Supremo. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.679 Roll called Suprema. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:03.200 Yes Sun Supremo roll call. Wait before I start the 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:04.520 introduction for Layah. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:13.040 Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a special South by 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.360 Southwest edition of Course Left Supreme, brought to you by 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.600 the fine folks of Pandora. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.640 Thank you all for coming out. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:20.560 Thank you for Ben. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.720 We are live outside behind a gas station. Tattoo Polo. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.959 Actually, I'm trying to go to that tattoo, Paula. Yeah, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.760 I'm going to get ink up. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:32.440 We'll join you. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.160 We'll all get the same collectively, all do that together. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.800 To my far right, I will say this is the 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:47.120 god of blue collar grown man music. Make yes, yes, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.800 please support. No news is good news by our very 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.560 own Finn Tiglo. What I gotta see your last name 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.080 with this foma uh. And to his left is uh 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.880 the super Uh when I say the super engineer for 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.400 all those soul quarying classics you love by the Roots 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:10.000 and Eric Abaudu and di'angelo and wowl blah. 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.440 Blah, this man is the roots I forgot. Yeah us too. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.000 Uh. This is an also a host of chatting with 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.120 Sugar on Instagram. Follow this man, we we need him 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:22.800 to have more followers. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.040 S U g A. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.160 Sugar, Steve s t E v E. Sugar Steve uh 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.280 mandel right here to uh police clap. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:40.240 And uh, my far life is my my fellow Hamiltonian. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.080 That sounds regal as fuck. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.760 I don't think yeah or hamilt Yeah, this is my 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:50.800 my Hamilton brother right here. And also the the only 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.520 member of q O l S. It's one step away 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.680 from an egot or ghetto. We called it ghetto that 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.520 g d E and the T. He's just waiting on 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.000 the O day. Hope to be ghetto one day. You 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.240 want to be ghetto, man, I'm telling you. And also 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.800 the God of the children is children's television workshops still 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:09.039 a thing? 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.960 Or now sesame streets on HB. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.840 My boss is here, boss television works out still think no, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:19.479 it's not works Okay, I'll just took it over. Okay, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.880 I see anyway, give it up for unpaid bill. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.080 Two of my far left, please. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.839 They're not it hurts yes. And the the first lady 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.960 of q l S. She organizes our lives and disrupts it. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.520 We haven't called her that in a second. I forgot 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.680 I've been here in a minute. Well now now we 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.839 we we dubbed her. It's like you so ladies and gentlemen, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:44.600 please give it up for it. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:45.320 It's like. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.680 Thank you'll all right? 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:51.760 And uh, what can I say? 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:57.200 You know, our guess is practically on every top five 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:03.440 list of your favorite MC's MC ever compiled. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.280 If you ask any MC that you respect. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.800 That from anywhere from respect, Yeah, this man is in 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.320 easily in their top five or their top three. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.200 Most of the times he's number one. You know what 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:15.599 I'm saying. 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.679 Uh. From his days of being the the the PM, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.960 mar C's Nightmare posted War as one third of the 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:30.560 highly influential UH Boy. Yeah, from his jaw dropping sol 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.800 outputs as as uh as a solo artist classics as 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.240 uh missus Scarface's back, the world is yours, the fixed 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.920 last of the dying breed, especially the Diary. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:45.120 And let's not forget his appearance as Upgrade. Yes, yes, 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.479 shot right here in at XO. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:56.440 Did not to mention you. You've appeared with every hip 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:01.840 hop god You've you've been on, from Big to jay 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:06.200 Z Too Too Short to to Tupac to Devin the 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.760 Dude Too. I can name them all, but we'll be 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.520 here all day. Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:20.000 for God himself. Scarface. Yes, yes, I appreciate that introduction. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.200 How you doing, man? I'm doing good? How y'all doing so? 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:24.720 Am I allowed to call you? 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:25.160 I know? 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.360 Rappers or are no? Man? We're friends for real, don't Yeah. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.920 I know what I'm saying When I see you what, Brad, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.640 But exactly, I know that you know we're in a 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.679 professional settings and you know I'm still I'm still be red, Okay, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:39.000 and then. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:44.040 That's be ill. That's right, don't forget to forget it tomorrow. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:45.600 Be ill. 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.080 How you doing today, bro? I can't complain about it, man, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.000 I'm enjoying it. It looking good, man, I feel pretty good. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.520 I mean, I'll say, in the last two years when 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.360 I've seen you, are you used to people doing double 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.520 takes and still like not knowing it? 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.120 That that you when you come up and say, how 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.080 doing no like it's the fifteen year old bread? Yeah? 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.160 I want to see I want the secret of age regression. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.000 We were talking back stage earlier. You said you don't 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.000 do no bread now like I'm not doing no bread. Wow, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.120 A chill on the bread, and I'm getting ready to 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:24.240 do this this this uh uh intestinal cleanse. Okay, No, 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.440 I don't know. The dude was talking about some testing 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.200 ship and it says that that it's just gonna bust 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:31.840 your ass wide open, stay. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:32.800 In the house for like two weeks. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.760 What right? 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:36.560 That doesn't start today? 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:36.760 Though? 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.559 I took my first shot today, so we got I 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:47.200 was kidding, but yeah, if you smell something found less 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.679 mean you dropped like you dropped like one hundred over 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:51.439 the past coup of years. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.440 Right, how long it was? Five years? 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:53.800 Oh? 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:54.520 Wow? Yeah? 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:55.559 What was it? What did you do? 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.760 Like cleanses and eating right and running and. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.120 Uh and having a five year old? 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.760 No that came later. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.160 Can I can I ask though? Can one fully commit? 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.079 I mean, I know we're in Austin, where Austin is 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:19.880 quote weird, but can one fully commit to a healthy 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.400 lifestyle below the Mason Dixon line? 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:23.280 Hard? 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.520 If you want to south, if your life is on 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.080 the line, you gotta do with what what what they say? 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:30.240 Do? 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:31.920 Oh that's your yo. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:33.559 But I was in the fifth Ward last year and 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.480 I was trying to find greens. It was really hard. 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.680 Well, you didn't go to the right spot in the ghetto. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:40.840 They ain't got no healthy story. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:41.640 This is what I'm saying. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.600 They got they got fucking uh. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.400 The little uh Chinese little spots that they that the 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.199 soul food, that's the new soul food. Yeah, so you 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.400 got to go to a TV shout out to a 0:09:54.520 --> 0:10:00.600 g B B because my buddy was like a higher 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.320 up at hg BE and he passed away. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.560 Are you shouting out heaps of them on the stage. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.200 I don't know what's going on here? 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.520 What is a GV? Never mind. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:16.120 Outside Joe, but they really really take care of the people, man. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.320 So I got a lot of respect for those guys. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.200 And I don't spend no money nowhere else but there. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.160 That's what's up. So you were born in the fifth Ward, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.400 correct sir, yo every every time, like, oh for one 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.640 hundred on that from the south side. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:31.880 Man. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.120 Okay, but you were born in Houston. Correct? Pretty much 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.000 you're going outside of Houston. Still wrong? May close enough Houston. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:46.239 I guess I'm a Houstonian. Okay, I'm a native Houstonian. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:50.200 Cool, Okay, Well yeah, I actually I don't know much 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:56.040 about your your your early beginnings, like what was your 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.040 childhood like as far as before you got into hip hop, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:04.040 Like it was a lot of funk and rock and roll. Really, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.640 I'm I'm a walking encyclopedia. When it comes to funk 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.959 and rock and roll, it's you know, soul, not R 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.240 and B. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.240 Yes, soul. Okay, we'll explain to me, Like what was 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.280 your what was your household? 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.280 Like, like, how did you so when my mom went 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.400 to work, I went to my grandmother's house, and all 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.520 my uncles were in the rock and roll, so we 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:29.920 played you know, uh thin Lizzy, Ted Nugent, Uh fucking. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.760 You're a big Pink Floyd fan, right Pink Floyd Rush. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.559 But when we got home, we listened to Marvin Gaye 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:41.040 and Prince you know Osley Brothers. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.000 That was at my mom's house. At my grandmother's house 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:43.640 was rocked out. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.400 Oh wow, was that unusual though for your Like why 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.079 were your uncles into that particular? 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:49.959 I don't know. I just that's hot. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.360 That's what I grew up here, So I don't I 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.120 didn't know it was anything. It's supposed to be different 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.520 about it. You feel me like, I didn't know even. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:57.800 When you talk to your friends about music. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.120 I grew up around all my uncle so I could 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:01.719 fight real good. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:07.640 So no one tests a year. My grandma think me, man, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.520 we fight like okay, okay, fight with my uncles. I 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.640 was a little dude fighting the big dudes. So ano 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:20.680 that you're a guitarist, so like, how still I'm pretty good? 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.439 I don't remember that you Are you related to Johnny Nash? Yes, 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:31.320 I can see clearly now, Wow, he's your cousin. Does 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.480 your family come from Jamaica or is he just know 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.199 what happened? 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.880 Is Johnny from Houston? What about that accent? Though? 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:44.360 He don't got no accent? Your faking accent? Johnny don't 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.600 got no Jamaican accent? You serious? 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:47.400 Oh god? 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.840 People just affiliate that song with like no, he wrote 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.360 a lot of records for ball Mally too. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:52.880 Did you know that? 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:53.280 Yes? 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.920 Okay, I would assume that he came from Jamaica. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:13:05.040 So he's from Houston, Texas South Park, Damn man, John 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.319 Andy Coole as hell too. He got a song that's 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.800 gonna last forever, man, like you know, your kids, kids, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:12.480 kids don't know. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.199 I can see everybody knows the way. I got a 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:20.040 better one than that. What he wrote? Hercules Brothers the cartoon? 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.000 What wait? 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:27.200 What what's going on? They had a cartoon called Hercules. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:33.560 Y'all remember he wrote the fucking ship for it. Sorry 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.800 we should I didn't know that. I didn't wow Hercules 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:46.040 that's him? Oh wow, yeah wow. So he just left Hercules. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:51.320 He left the music, went to Jamaica, really left Hercules went. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:52.160 To Bob as you do. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.920 Yeah, that's then I know that. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.600 Is he a first cousin or second cousin or first cousin. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.760 Okay, yeah, I think that his grandfather and my grandfather 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.960 was brothers and some ship. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.920 I don't know. It was old folks. I annoyed. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.480 We cousins and we be hanging out and I haven't 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.240 seen him in the about eight months though. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.679 Okay, oh, so you're still live and yeah, you're alive, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.280 and well he lives in Houston, very rich. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.080 Can he still see clearly? 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.640 You know what that may be? That's a good question. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.360 That's a good question. I don't know. That was. That 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.480 was a good one seen him? Do I get a yes? Sorry, 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:49.160 it already happened a Q. Yes, don't do that, Steve. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:50.960 I won't say. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:54.800 I'm not going to do better than that. 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.120 That was. That was the best one. So what what 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.080 was the The only Houston resident that we've had on 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.120 the show is Premiere. So how premiere not from Houston? 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:07.320 Man? 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.440 We got a map and like that ancestry dot com 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:11.760 up here. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:14.760 I think Premiere from prayv you and some ship. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.200 Yet it's not Houston man. Okay, all right, so whostone 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:20.720 anybody from Houston? 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:22.240 So break down. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.720 If you have heard him say that he had Houston roots, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.200 but it might be BV roots, Okay, but we love Premier. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:31.160 He's dope and he's dope. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:35.200 Right yeah, all right, you set me straight, and my 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:40.360 ongoing uh ignorance of geography continues. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.440 On the show. It's really you can be I don't know, well, no, 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:42.920 not really. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.360 You can't really get prav confused with Houston because it's 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:46.120 not really that close. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.160 Okay, that ship is like an hour away or something. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.800 I mean, Textas is big as ship outside. We're just 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.480 trying to learn it's big, you know, man. But because 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.280 you don't even know the different personalities between you know, Austin, Texas, Dallas. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.160 Everybody got different personalities. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.080 Right, let me break down the pres here we go. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.240 Okay, me being from Houston, like I love Houston, right, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.240 but I also know that that that Houston is like 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.560 it's a SYRP town, so it's cool and laid back 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:22.880 and slow, all right. Dallas it's like like fucking Mars. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.160 Like it's a totally different world in Dallas than it 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.160 is in Houston and Austin. 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.640 It's like a small like Humbo County. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.400 Like it's like it's like everybody's doing their own ship 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:40.840 and enjoying it. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.360 You know what I mean, nobody's mad. They go out, 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.920 they they jam, they party. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.040 They have south By Southwest, they have Austin City limits 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:49.960 or whatever that ship is. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.640 For the record, Austin is my second favorite city on 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.239 the earth. This is the ship, Like, this is badass. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.480 If I were to retired, this is the second this 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.920 is the second city on my time. This is like 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.920 Austin is in the class by itself. I wish that 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.840 they would legalize marijuana here. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.240 South in the Texas were all that with that? 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:10.720 Not y'all? 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:11.879 Damn it got quiet. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.639 I don't give I think I think Austin's with you. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.080 I think it's the rest of Texas coming to board. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.119 I think all of the fucking old people need to 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:28.160 die and let us have it. I don't give what funk. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.639 So how did how did hip hop culture reach you 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:40.760 in in Houston? It started with music, you know, it 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.840 started with music. It started it started with growing up 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.240 in a band. I started to learned how to play ship. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.760 You know. So you were in high school bands and 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.720 then I was in elementary school, junior high school bands. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.440 I'm talking about bands like everybody when I when I 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.320 was growing up, everybody played something, you know, everybody had 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.119 a bass, so somebody had some drums in their so 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.400 somebody had to guitar, somebody blew the horn, and some ship. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.760 Now that they've taken the the music out of the 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.359 schools and then we're suffering. You know, music was like 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.080 a universal language. Man, we all love that shit so 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:13.320 now and now it's gone. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.800 But excuse me. I grew up in that. I grew 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.879 up in music, and when. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.200 Hip hop came, you know, it was mind blowing because 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.879 I've seen some people that was like me. They was 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:31.960 kids and they was jamming. You know, Uh, what's the ship? 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.840 Rappers Delight was one of the first hip hop songs 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:40.440 I had heard. My cousin is from New York, so 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.240 I spent a lot of time up there and I 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.399 heard a lot of shit. So it was kind of 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.200 like cheating a little bit because them they could really 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.680 really rap and I can really really rap too, So 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:51.760 we had a lot a lot of. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.119 Fun, you know what I mean. So you guys, and 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.360 that's how you got a lot of your education. I did. Well. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.600 See that that shows why you're a cut above the 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.000 rest because you have you have that early education. 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.159 With I was. I was, I was way in the 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.200 hip hop like way ahead in hip hop. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.159 Do you remember how old you were? How old you 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:17.560 were when you wrote your first round? Probably was about 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:22.920 fourteen fifteen. But what was the moment where you were like, Okay, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.560 I seen a man die. Wow, That's when I knew, like, 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.480 oh shit, oh you mean literally not the song the 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.320 song I song. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.720 If you ain't him to my in my catalog. That 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.800 was when I really knew that. Oh ship you guys, 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.320 when you broke that song, it took that long. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was all fun and games in 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.960 the beginning, right, You make a song and you go 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.680 home and ship and listen to it. Bro I broke 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:57.480 my fucking hand. I broke my hand, and I had 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.359 some painkillers, and I was I drink. I used to 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.840 drink a lot of Miller lights, and I smoked weed, 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.800 and I was so high, like I had never been 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:07.760 high in my life. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:13.240 And I remember, Yo, can we hang out as we should? 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.000 Let me remind you awesome You called smoking going to 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:26.360 jail right? So quiet? No, it's quiet because. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:34.520 Events staff, they're not they're not cops. No, sorry, So 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.480 you were saying you were high as fuck. 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.960 I was super high, super high, And then. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.000 I remember being in the studio and the lights was off, 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.120 like like my it was dark, dark, dark, and all 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.560 you can see was the the glass. The engineer in 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.680 the glass was Mike Dean. It was just me and 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.600 Mike Dean in that studio, so was the engineer. That's 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:03.320 the inspiration for all the great song. No don't play 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:03.960 ship either. 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.800 I don't play that. So when. 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.080 The first words and the way that it was dark 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.040 and it was cold in there, and I don't like cold, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.040 all right, So when those first words came. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:27.480 Out right shot seal something my fucking body, I was like, oh. 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:29.600 You too. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:30.840 It hit me. 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.600 It's kind of where I was. And it was at 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:41.440 that moment Brad and new he had sucked up. Right then, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.359 it's right right then, hit. It's weird to hear you 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:49.240 have a spiritual experience about yourself, like you're also you're 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.320 also one of your your favorite rappers. 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.359 That's kind of cool. You don't really like me? No 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:55.800 really No. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.480 It was that moment that I knew I have fucked up. 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:05.200 I hit that he greeted his father with this that ship. 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.480 I was like, tell us the line, the full line. 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.439 He greeted his father with his hands out rehabilitated, slightly, 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.120 glad to be the man's child. He glad to see 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.320 his old man when he walked out that bag. Shots 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.640 just shot that ship up your spine. Well, I don't 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.560 know if y'all ever had a really, really good nut, 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:24.080 but that's how it felt. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:27.480 You'll learn maybe when your thirties. 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:36.560 I ain't am out of that, my bad man. I 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:38.560 want to apologize to Sesame Street. 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.920 So wait, what what I'm saying is you're saying that 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:49.720 when you wrote that, then you felt like you were 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:54.960 when I wrote it when you heard it back. Okay, 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.960 But I'm just saying, when in your teens did you 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.800 feel like Okay, I'm just gonna prosue. 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.040 You just mean you were just messing around that whole time? 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.680 Oh fucking right. I didn't even expect to get paid. 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.040 For it, even during my mind's playing tricks on hand 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.040 before I knew I wasn't get paid for that one. 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.080 But you know, I had no fucking idea that this 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:18.719 ship paid. Man, So like, huh yeah, he wait wait 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.119 wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:25.040 mean you're trying to pay me yeah to rap? Yeah, 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.520 but I what but not the monetary reward of it. 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.960 I mean in terms of no fuck that a quest. 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:35.840 It was about the money when we was growing up, 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.520 because we ain't have none, right like that. She was 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.399 about the money, like we we did some ship that 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:46.120 was strictly for the money before a rap started. All right, 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:48.520 So when you said that you was gonna pay me 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.240 to rap and I had to do this no more, 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:54.240 A no brainer. 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.639 So when did when did y'all form Ghetto Boys? How 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:02.280 did that come about? 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:08.879 I wasn't there, So the original information was Johnny? So 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.960 why did how did they just? Or I guess asked 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:15.560 about J Prince? Like what is I've heard a lot 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:21.160 about the legend of J Prince, but can't I don't 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.359 know anything about him, but I know. 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.320 That it's it's a legend. 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:28.520 Who is JA what? 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.520 And who is J Prince? And how did he bring 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.280 you into the fold of the Ghetto Boys? 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:37.479 And in my opinion, Jay is a masterful thinker m hm. 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:42.919 He's probably up in the top tier of thinkers chess players. 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.800 If you know, like an Einstein type of motherfucker, that's him. 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:48.600 He has to be, because when you google him, you 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.639 can't find nothing about him. And that's the most amazing 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:56.119 he's I don't know, I would be more afraid of 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:02.000 James than Trump. Wow for real, yeah for real, Like 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:07.080 he's a masterful fucking thing. Yeah, he's a master strategist. 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.119 So how did you guys meet and how he did 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.840 he bring you into? Nah, it was like he heard 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:16.159 the song and he was like, Hey, we're gonna put 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:17.080 that guy in this group. 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:19.359 And that's what it was. 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.280 But that's not that's not an average thing. Like you know, 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.159 I got a group. Hey, I'm like, but you it 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.359 was like I got a group and Ghetto Boys cool, 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:33.200 You're gone, You're gone, You're in, You're cool. 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:35.200 My face is in. 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:36.160 Wow. 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.520 What you remember what record was it of yours that 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.400 he heard that makes the the original? 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:42.080 Wow? 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:49.640 Yeah fucked him up, Like, oh hell no, I don't 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.560 want no competition that. Yeah. 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.600 So was he the mastermind behind you guys just being 0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.600 because when I when I first heard of y'all, I guess. 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:01.720 When Chuck G. 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.720 Chuck D shouted you guys out on Fear of a 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.920 Black Planet, That's the first time I heard of the 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:07.600 Ghetto Boys. 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:09.760 And then I'll say, like. 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.639 Maybe two months later, then suddenly you guys were just 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.919 I heard like I saw more of your press than 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:21.359 I heard the music because the controversy with the with 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.560 the pm r C and I guess, uh, I forget 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:25.600 who the head editor? 0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.760 Well, no, no, the head editor of Billboard was Ted. 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:30.199 Uh. 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:35.520 I forget his name, Like it's is like, no, no, 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.720 he's going, He's gone. But is he dead? Oh? 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:39.600 You got something? 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.560 I'm just asking Like usually like people don't just step down. 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.879 People don't relinquish that. People that don't just relinquish their power. 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.120 So if Ted, either either Ted is dead or Ted 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:50.600 is rich. 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:51.200 I forget. 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:58.879 I forget his name, but I remember reading his his 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:05.200 uh editor about the shock of this album, and instantly 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.320 I was like, I gotta get this and the album 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:12.320 that was was gripping on the other level. Okay, they're 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:16.200 just when we did like three hundred thousand records independently 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.679 on the first one before Rick even picked the ship up. 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.280 So how did Rick even get Uh? He probably heard 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:26.480 of ship somewhere, you know, Like so it wasn't like 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:27.399 you guys were looking for me. 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.800 Now, we're not looking for a deal at all. 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:31.639 But when you make somebody on an offer that they 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.720 can't refuse, you kind of got to make that move. 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.280 You feel Me and were y'all the first like Southern 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.160 group on at the time. 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:42.879 It was American So Rick had left Death Jam and 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:43.400 started Deaf. 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.000 But you know what, I'm gonna go out on the 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:48.879 limb and say I might have been the first Southern 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:50.040 act on Death Jam. 0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.080 Yeah you were, because who else? 0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.520 Because you were before Loot right No no, no, no, 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.960 no no no Luther came out on Death Jam South 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:00.600 Oh you mean yeah, just jam proper. 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.440 Yeah, I was Deaf Jam with the with the with 0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.960 the turntable. That was super important. 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:11.840 That's a that's a bucket list playing right there, Like 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.320 to be on death Jam, that was a dream. 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:15.520 That's a childhood dream. 0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:19.399 To be on Death Jam from Houston, Texas, like not 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.600 like a small little neighborhood in Houston, Texas called South 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.600 Akers And I'm on fucking death Jam. 0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.639 That's real supposed to be easy to never ever. 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:34.280 Take my my travel, you know, my journey for granted, bro, 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:36.840 Like I'm from right there and I'm sitting here with 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.000 one of my favorite, my favorite drummer. 0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:46.840 I call him what I call you, the human NBC 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:48.120 you told. 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:53.320 PC like he doesn't. That's my favorite compliment. That's my 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.960 favorite compliment. He's the human in PC. I used to 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.640 think he got mad. I used to I was like, man, 0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.560 he got man. I call him a drum machine. No, 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.680 that that's what that was always my life cold to 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.520 be like a drum to be that, Yeah, you're in 0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.360 that pocket, bro, I gotta bit man. 0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:08.880 Y'all give it a one time a quest because he's 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.520 a bad motherfucker. I love that. 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:12.440 This is the first is a question. 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:19.040 He actually took a compliment. Everyone hit me with the thing. 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:27.080 I don't That's all I got. I was like, wait, 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.360 can I take over my show? Please? Go right ahead? 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.040 All right. So when you're. 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.440 When you're most most group situations are you know, usually 0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.040 childhood friends that jail with each other and and and 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:46.640 then become a group. You guys were sort of just similar, 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.240 like it's almost like a boy band almost like like 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:50.400 this is how the ship happened. 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:56.719 You knew him and him and me, and we had 0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.040 no idea who the fuck we were. 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.560 We know, we didn't know. We just got in the 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.720 vand one day and rolled out somewhere and wrapped. It 0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.680 seemed like a super group though, because it's a supergroup. 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.240 So how did you guys? Was it easy to gel 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:16.840 as a group. I mean, you're strangers and suddenly you're 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.080 gonna enter this this business venture. 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.600 I had no idea that it would turn into a business. 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.720 I thought it was just I thought it was just 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.240 having fun rapping and recording the ship, you know, like 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.480 this was my first time. I had no idea about 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.760 nothing in the music industry, nothing about the music business period. 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:36.480 So I just wrote my ship and I left. Wow, 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.640 you know, we're not friends, we don't hang out, were 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:42.440 not cool. I don't know, y'all, So what what made 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.640 here for? So y'all weren't friends? 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.080 Y'all? You just kill We're not friends now? 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.040 Wore no way? But are you family now? 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:53.800 Like? Is it like that? 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.480 Like you know, don't like them? 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:56.680 You know? 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:57.200 Okay? 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.800 Well, I mean, and don't say Bill his name too long, 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.280 too too loud. He'll pop his little lass up in here. 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:04.320 Oh ship. 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:05.160 I swear. 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.440 I had a crazy I had a crazy uh uh 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.560 Bushwick Bill story where I. 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.560 Didn't realize that he had gotten on stage. 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.920 This one there was it's like ninety seven, ninety eight, 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.480 and I was playing with a very unusual kick drum. 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.640 Maybe it was a twenty eight inch kick drum. 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.600 It was like the part of the size. He was 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.000 standing up in front of him inside my kick drum? 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:36.600 Whoa what? 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:37.720 Please tell me? 0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:38.880 Please tell me. 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.400 It was like he was like laying and there was 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.280 a pillow. There was a bunch of pillows, drum. He 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.920 sat on the drum riser, and then he just took 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.200 a nap inside of the kid. I've heard more crazy 0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.640 stories about Bill, like that's the one thing we never 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.600 asked MC search for story. 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.800 But hey, I was in the group with him. 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:03.720 Look like that Martin episode. 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:05.200 My favorite is face. 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:08.480 But what was that? What was that? 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:09.360 Face? 0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:17.280 Nobody loves me, Nobody loves me face. Nobody loves his 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:23.800 short man. But boy, how a short man can love? Yeah, 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.760 I got some real stories, man, But I let him 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.520 tell his own man. So the cover of We Can't 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:29.600 be Stopped, that's real. 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.960 I was pissed. You can tell it by the I'm looking. Yeah. 0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.520 I was like, man, that's so fucking disrespectful. So tell 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.760 me the call that you got. Obviously, Jay Prince, get 0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:42.720 to the hospital right now. 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.200 No, he didn't say that. Hey don't Jay, don't get 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:46.640 on the phone. Man Chief called us. 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.600 Uh oh, this is the infamous cover. 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:54.160 Yees where he's in the hospital, just set it up 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.800 for our listeners. So I guess the legend was that 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:03.080 he mixed but clear with something that was so clear 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:04.800 we tried to shoot his eye out. He made the 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.640 song about ever so clear joints. He shot a bushwick. 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:15.040 Bill shot his eye out, and I can see the look. 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:20.440 Did I fall marketing? Tell me the story. Let I'm 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.080 gonna let him tell his own sto. No, no, no, 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.920 you were one of the covers, So explain to me 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.560 how that cover came to be. So we had heard 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.800 like at five o'clock in the morning, Bill got shot 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.200 and he got shot in the eye, and I was like, funk, 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:40.760 it's over. Yeah, like he's fucking dead. But some kind 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.160 of way that little motherfucker was rose up. 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:44.560 Like I was ship. 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.400 Did he go through or where does it go? 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:53.600 Yeah, the way it went, But I know that motherfucker 0:33:53.640 --> 0:34:00.680 ain't dead. He went to the hospital. They were like, yeah, man, 0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.480 y'all might want to come up here and get this albucol. 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.480 Because Jake so fucking smart he thought Bill was gonna 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.600 die too, so so he wanted y'all to post next 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:17.160 the body. Oh my god, hey, bro, I can't make 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.080 that up. Man. We thought Bill was gonna die and 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.200 he was gonna take a picture on Bill's deathbed, and 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.760 that she was gonna sell a million records, and he did. 0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.600 Fuck it, did it? So? 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:32.759 I mean, first, you know, if Bill would had his 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.040 eyes closing, ship, I would have been cool with it. 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.719 But but he had a fucking phone on his head, 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.160 the old brick phone. 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.320 That ship was like this big He's sitting up on 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.360 the gurney like you see his legs and shp like 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:48.800 he was sitting up on that bitch like this. 0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:53.480 You can see. 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.279 Like a big ass man with some little short little 0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:02.319 legs and ship. Right, he's got his fucking band aid off, 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.359 his eye hanging down. His eye is fucking sticking out 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.680 like a Halloween man. And I'm like, shit, you serious? 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.000 You want taking picture with this this fucking Halloween costume? 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.480 Bro? No man. 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.600 And from that point on, Bill has been like a 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:24.120 Halloween like a walking like a twenty four seven, three 0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:28.360 sixty five fucking Halloween costume. Bro. He became chucky. He 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.560 became a Halloween costume because he was a joker too. 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:37.040 You're right, and now he's now when's the last time 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:42.440 you talked to him. He damn that long now, bro decade, 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.520 I don't never talk to Bill no more work. 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:51.439 I'm good like wow, No, I'm fine, like it's good 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.400 like we left in a great place. 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.880 What about you and Willie Deed, y'all have any We 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:57.600 just talk sometimes, Okay, okay? 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.960 But will he ain't come out on stage man one time. Man, 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.239 I still kind of feel fucked up about that. When 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.959 was this We had a concert in Houston and ship 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:12.520 and it was DJ Quick and. 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.120 A few other you know, e Ford like some great 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.040 ship going on, right, And I was a co headliner 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.200 with ice Cube all right. Now, a couple of weeks 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.799 before WILLI came out with Trench, Willie Ambial came out 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.520 with Trench to do this do the mind playing tracks record, right, 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.279 And I wrote the fucking record, So I do this 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.840 ship man, And I'm thinking, Willy gonna come out and 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.520 do the ship on the strip because you know you're 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.240 probably gonna go on to it one of these days. 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.040 And then he didn't go out on my set and 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.040 went out on ice Cube. Shit. 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.279 I was like, you know what, man, I ain't never 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.040 going towards you no more. We ain't gonna never do 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:47.720 no more songs. 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.560 No motherfucking none of that a tribute to hip hop 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.439 honors NBA. 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.160 You know I don't believe that, right o? God? Yeah, 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:00.879 come on, man, it has to happen. 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.640 You know you said something though you wrote all of 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.080 your minds land tricks on you, the. 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:11.080 Whole song except for Willie's verse. And I did the beat, okay, 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:18.759 how okay? The the splash, the splash symbol at the 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:19.600 end of each verse. 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:22.399 How okay. 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.879 This is only a nerd question that a mirror would ask, 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.080 what was the ideology I have No. 0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.040 You knew that was the Yeah, I knew. But here's 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:33.319 the thing. 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.600 You know, how you run your you program your your 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.759 NBC sixty right, and you gotta do the change up 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.600 in the last two. Yes, And that's that's one of 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.400 my favorite when I'm when I'm hitting a crash symbol. 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:52.080 That's that's my crash symbol that I always hear. It's 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:56.480 one of the loudest. It could have been poorly mixed too, though, 0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:00.279 so it probably was. But it you know it, if 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.120 I mixed that record or map, it has made my 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.560 arm coming down with the force of hercules on every 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:05.520 symbol I've ever hit. 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:07.160 Is that what you did mind playing tracks on you 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:08.400 did on the NPC, I did it. 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:14.960 On the NPC sixty and U and EPs the Sonic Wow, 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.200 EPs Wow. 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.480 Can you not? I'm not. I'm just my first nerd 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.120 out moment. But can you walk us through that that 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.480 beat process just like where it started from? 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:25.960 And how you a room? 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.839 Now? I mean that song, I mean that particular song, 0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:30.719 that particular song. 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:33.160 So when. 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:38.279 Willy left the group after the ice Cube disc the 0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.719 ice Cube with No Basiline, Oh yeah, yeah. When ice 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.759 Cube said WILLI d told me to let a whole 0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.080 be a hole, that was the end of the Ghetto 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:45.759 Boys for good. 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:47.520 That was it. Woow. 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:49.719 He thought he's bigger than the group. 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:50.080 You know. 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:51.719 I don't know that's between y'all to talk about, but 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.120 I know that after that shit happened, it was no 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.640 more will he left wow, because that's what I was 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:56.879 going out like a soldier record. 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:57.640 That was next. 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.560 I have no idea, I don't know, but that's what happened. 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.719 I was working want to, I was forced to work 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:07.160 on solo album, your first album. Oh just the missis 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.080 Scarface's back. Yeah, and this is all in my book too. 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.719 By the way, you're saying you didn't want to make 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.680 that first solo record. I wasn't even trying to be 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.640 no fucking rapper. That shit was too much, It took 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.560 too much time, and it wasn't paying the fucking money. 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.719 The fuck. I want to be a rapper. Form. Just 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.400 give me enough money to buy this so I can 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.320 flip that and do this. That's what I want to do. 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.719 I want to do that that rap shit. Okay, wait, 0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:33.160 let me enter retire one second. 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:38.040 This also is the ongoing continuation of our discovery that 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.080 all classics and all great moments are done in that 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:45.440 alpha state. Oh yeah, where if you plan, if you 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.799 plan a great moment or if you plan to make 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.040 a classic, whatever, it never works. 0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.160 But when it's just an afterthought, like. 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.040 Whatever, that's what the magic is. 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:55.080 That's crazy. 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:59.399 So all this time I'm thinking that that first solo 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.520 record was like this plan for you, like to pull 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:04.640 a Michael Jackson off the. 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.120 Wall, and not that I can recall. 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.880 Man, I could be wrong, but I if I if 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.800 I if I recall correctly, I was. I was making 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:17.120 songs for UH for my solo album, and I had 0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.440 a song called my mind playing tricks on Me. I 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.839 had three verses, my first two verses, and this year 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:27.560 Halloween fell on the weekend verse. All right, well some 0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:31.920 kind of way priority Uh had a meeting with James 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.360 and I. That record ended up on the Ghetto Boys record. 0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.920 Oh yeah, that was my solo. So I was on 0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:42.440 my solo album. Okay, but it helped us set up 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:46.400 your solo though, Like, that's that's the that's the biggest 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.960 fucking move that we could have made. You know, it 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.240 set up everybody's solo. If everybody got it, if everybody 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.399 got if everybody coming off the success of a great 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.840 fucking group album, then everybody has the opportunity to break solo. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:04.399 I mean it also, well good, it's your talk show, 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.759 no no, no podcast continue. 0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:10.800 I I took. 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.279 And once I tasted the blood, like, I was like 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:18.279 fuck that. Like I can argue with myself. I can 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.239 be at odds with me by myself. I don't have 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.480 to have three other motherfuckers to argue with. I can 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.520 just go in this motherfucker and fight with me. You know, 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.239 I could deal with my own ego. That's the most 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:29.880 fun anyway. 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:31.799 Yeah, I like, man ain't right. 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.560 So wait, so since that song is your baby, what 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.080 does it feel like, all these years later to have 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.919 a song that's like like every Halloween it is a time. 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.120 And you know what the greatest part about that is, 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.360 I'm right there in the same light as my cousin 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:46.239 because his. 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.480 Song's gonna play forever. 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.560 Mind playing tricks, that song is gonna play forever. Like 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.200 all the rest of that ship that I did in 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.120 my life may not play for it made it. That 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.359 shit made end pretty soon, but I know that every time. 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:04.120 If they don't take away Halloween, I'm good. Yea, So 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.279 how did you tread it? Oh? Wait, I kind of 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.920 want to go back to the first record. What I 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.560 want to know is is that you know, for those 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:18.480 that aren't steeped and and and and and baptized in 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:22.840 hip hop culture, you know a lot of the ideas 0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:27.720 of what, especially in the political world, that were against 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.799 rap music at the time. I mean, you guys were 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:40.040 basically that, you know, the most shocking, the most disgusting, whatever, 0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.040 like you could whatever, it's superlative you could use. Was 0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:45.920 it was the plan for that in the studio, like 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.080 We're just going to be the most offensive group of 0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:51.040 all time. I don't, I don't. I don't think you 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.560 could plan that. You know, I think that you look 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.200 at what's happening around you, like, and this was. You know, 0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:01.080 I remember going to Milwaukee and going to Jeffrey Dahmer's 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:02.680 house and ship where he did that ship. 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:07.960 At Wait you went there? Why? I mean you you 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:08.839 hear about the ship? 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.160 Yeah, I know a venue you all play too, because 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.160 it was His house was right across the street from 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:20.520 this big giant Milwaukee venue, only it's like a Masonic 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:21.239 temple hall. 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:22.880 Did he performed. 0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:27.600 Dahmer's house? We didn't stop. I've been curious about what 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.200 was on the inside of that apartment. Yeah, I didn't 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.760 go in. There wasn't anything. 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.840 I remember passing by that motherfucker stopping and getting scared. 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.640 Oh god, yeah, the house was empty. 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.880 Everything was. I don't know if that motherfucker was in 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.880 jail yet now he ate. 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.160 Everything in the house. Missing that point, you're missing the 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:48.640 whole point. 0:43:51.520 --> 0:44:04.960 I'm sorry, excuse me. That is Yes, that was a 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:06.120 great one. You can get one for that. 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:11.560 So with all of that ship going on, Uh, guys, 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.320 we just kind of rapped about it, you know, but 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.840 you y'all realized y'all were the first to really cross 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.000 that line. Like at that point n w A was 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:25.040 the was the high mark of offense, and even their 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:28.200 stuff was more politically offensive, right, not like to the 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:36.239 level y'all Like that boy said, uh like having sex 0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.600 with corpses and ship? Yeah, like what like I think 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:39.960 that was? 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.040 I would I didn't write that, by the way. 0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.520 It would take a little bitty spooky looking motherfucker the 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.480 sat ship like that, But he. 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:51.200 Didn't write it either. 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.839 Willie wrote that verse was really right that a guy 0:44:54.960 --> 0:45:00.279 named Jukebox wrote that, and Jukebox later went to jail 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.040 for like a murder or something. 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.920 Of course because he was having of course. 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.759 No, I'm nah, it was just it was just one 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.279 of those men. We we really weathered a storm that 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.279 we wasn't supposed to get out of, you know what 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.719 I'm saying, Like, it was a lot of shit that 0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.760 went on in those years. 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:19.640 You know. 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:26.200 It was a lot of uh uh uh people getting killed. 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.040 There was a lot of people going to jail. There 0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.320 was a lot of people being indicted. There was a 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:34.520 lot of motherfucking friends falling out and not speaking no more. Like, 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.920 it was a lot of penitentiary chances that went on 0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:40.520 doing that shit during that time. 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.040 Man and we weathered that storm. 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:46.279 Man, And from from seventeen years old to right now, man, 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:47.360 I'm I'm. 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:51.879 Happy, bro, I'm coming up on my thirty and hip 0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.200 hop yeah nice and in actual years too. 0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:57.759 I mean, you could you could do that? You could 0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:58.279 you could do that. 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:06.560 I signed my contract August seventeenth, nineteen eighty seven. No 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.719 eighty eight, I'm lying eighty eight. I was seventeen years 0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:16.560 old and now forty seven. That's amazing, man, Ain't shit 0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.200 amazing by being forty seven? Man, you just gotta keep 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.320 waking up. This shit hurts. 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:24.879 I want to get to the I want to get 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.320 to the diary that was. 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:31.359 I feel I'm gonna skip skip over the world one, 0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.239 but we can get no, no, no, no, go to it. 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:35.200 No no no, that's talking about I got some cool 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:39.160 shit that happened there, yea, So let me roll all right? 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:41.480 Is that you planning based on. 0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:43.160 My uncle playing the base? Man? 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.719 I got one of the coldest uncles at like my 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.280 uncle Eddie, and we're not friends. 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:48.279 We don't get along at all. 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.640 So can I interrupt here because I'm confused. 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.280 You seem like a super friendly guy who has no friends, 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.560 So why aren't your friends with even your uncle. 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.960 Also, that's say, yo, we should play one, but not 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.319 right now, but that he's right playing now though I'll 0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:08.480 save it for later. Yeah, Like, I'm really cool as fun, 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.080 but I don't got no friends. I don't really want 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:10.560 no friends. 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.040 What about us? Can we be? 0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:13.640 Can we can quest love? 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.239 Now? That's that's the second time you asked to be 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:16.640 his friend. 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:17.399 I knew that before. 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:23.200 You as actually uh cool, it me and cool, but 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:29.560 the rest of y'all wasn't really you know, I'm gonna 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:30.560 I'm gonna get him. 0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:36.759 On chatting with that's so listen, first of all, Mike Dean, 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:42.080 how did he enter into the to the conversation? Because 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:48.880 so Mike Dean was an engineer, Uh okay, okay, but 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:55.040 Mike Dean playing for Selena? Ah wow, Okay, Mike Dean 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:56.000 was Mike Dean. 0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.640 Was a keyboard player of Saxophone player some ship for Selena. 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:03.040 Okay, so, but but listen though, like Mike Dean is 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.000 a bad motherfuckers he's cold. You ever heard the intro 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:09.960 to Jesse James. Yes, Mike Dean and Mike Dean a 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:16.000 bad motherfucker straight up. We would bring ship to the 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:20.080 studio and start making, you know, making making songs or whatever. 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.520 And Mike Dean would play on that ship. Yeah, and 0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:28.200 he's a masterful mixer for those that don't know, I 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.719 mean right now, I mean, Mike Dean's really getting this 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:37.320 moment in the sun. Kanye as Kanye's Travis Scott. Everything 0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.279 he did Panda right, did he do well? He did 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.520 stuff on Designer's record. Okay, Okay, I don't know what 0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:46.480 I mean, it's name it like from two chains to 0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.319 I mean, he's popping more now. 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.919 But I didn't realize that he worked on your records first. 0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.640 So I wanted to ask you about the rap a 0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.200 Lot production squad. So n O, Joe Beato all, what 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.440 was the deal with those cats? How involvedre you in that? 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.200 You're forgetting me right, I'm saying you. I had you 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.160 in the credit read them fucking credits. I read them, 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.400 trust me. How did What was it like when you 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:14.160 collaborating with them? I think that you know, Joe has 0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.520 his own style and SODA's Beato. You know we forgot 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:24.960 about tongue tongue. He's fucking awesome too. Like I started 0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.120 the production deal, I mean, I started that production movement off, 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.640 you know, what I mean, Like from from I've Seen 0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:32.520 a Man Die to My Mind playing, I did my 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.399 mind playing tricks by my I did my whole first 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:35.640 solo album by myself. 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.080 I did all of those beats except for maybe like. 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:43.399 Uh Bornier and I didn't do money in the Power, 0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:44.680 and I didn't do He's Dead. 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.319 That was I think Simon did that. But I did 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.560 the rest of that ship. Okay, all right? 0:49:54.480 --> 0:50:00.319 Listening to uh the ninety six Ghetto Boys the album 0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:02.920 to Death do his part part? Yeah, read the credits. 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.200 I probably did all that ship, but about one and 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:12.040 two songs too. Man, putting together that production team, just 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.799 everybody collabing and making great music. I think that's how 0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.760 you make great music. Yeah, you know, everybody's gotta gotta 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.240 want a jam. You know, everybody gotta have an input. 0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.480 It can't be no fucking egos, you know what I mean, 0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:25.319 Like I don't have an ego. Like, let's just let's 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:28.640 just cham, let's make the best record that we can make, 0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.040 and then we'll argue about who did this ship. 0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.520 The best win is over with the will let the 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.040 fans aside. I'm jumping around. 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:40.400 So the diary, what made you take ninety nine left balloons, 0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:50.680 Yes for going down Drugs mixed total six. I love 0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:51.960 that fucking song man. 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.359 The first Oh we all My uncle played the bass 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:54.919 on that ship. 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.520 So, like I'm telling you, my uncle Eddie is probably 0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.239 the best musician that I've ever heard in my life. 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.719 And I don't like that motherfucker. Just do not get along? 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:10.240 Is that him playing based on join everything? Everything? Everything? 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:12.640 What's his full name so we can look him up, 0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:18.200 Eddie Wilson. He's a bad motherfucker. He bad like Prince though, 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:25.720 but anything. He can play cheers and jam, but he blind, 0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:30.239 he's bind and he's a fucking asshole, bro, not like 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:30.960 a blind man. 0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:33.479 Like that's I'm fucked up too. 0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:33.640 Like. 0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.759 I don't like that motherfucker. That motherfucker don't like me, 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:43.520 so believe it at that. Sometimes the best collaborations are tension, 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.920 you know what I mean. He's fucking awesome, man, He's awesome. 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:51.560 He's to hear him compliment the same thing. 0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:54.440 Remember that that show This Is Your Life where they 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.160 would bring on different people from your past. 0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.319 Yes, like he should be a contestant exactly, just bring 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:01.439 keep bringing on all the people you hate. 0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:09.000 Sure now will fly you out now we'll bring you out. 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:15.720 Bro. So did you, I mean, at least with the Diary, 0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:21.600 did you feel as though like that was your that 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:23.360 let me tell you what happened with the between the 0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.520 Diary and the world is yours? 0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:27.200 Okay, so. 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:32.359 The world is George? Were smoking like regular dirt ass weed. 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:39.040 I heard the story before when we got to fucking California, 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:40.719 talk about it. 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:42.360 Who was smoking? That ship? That has you? 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:52.800 Like? So that that was that was not going balloons? 0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.880 Wow, that's called the chronic that ship. 0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:03.280 That's what that ship was mean. It made you feel different, 0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:05.360 so it made you think different. 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:08.440 So when you felt different and you it made you 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:13.000 think and it played different, it was like, Wow, that's 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:14.200 when ship started jamming. 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:17.239 I think I think it was the weeds Man. Yeah. 0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.560 What question I always had for you with going from 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.359 the Diary to the Untouchable, Like it seemed like your 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.040 production just stepped up level. 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:36.440 Yeah, Taller bad Man Man, south Side south Side that 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:41.400 was my record on that. Wow. Yeah. But Mike mixed. 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.400 Mike was he He mixed, and he mixed a lot 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.160 of those albums, and he played on a lot of 0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:53.040 those albums. But the production and the the mixing and 0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:57.920 the mastering of those albums right there for second and nothing. Nah, yeah, 0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.760 you could hear it it whatever it was, Like, Wow, 0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:07.200 do you I mean, do you as far as you 0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:11.040 being on everyone's like top ten list and and. 0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.200 You know this level of respect that you get, do 0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:16.160 you feel. 0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.440 Do you feel valued or like, I mean, I've never 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.200 read about you like getting to beef with other rappers, 0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:27.560 and I'm into the level that it was with during 0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:30.120 that period of the East Coast, West Coast and this 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.960 and that you were sort of like the you were 0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:38.239 Switzerland almost like you were the happy medium. Like, but 0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:41.200 did you feel as though like I should be getting 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:42.600 more of respect like I pioneered? 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:45.960 Nah? Man, I'm cool. Man. I like this. I like 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:47.479 being down here on ground level. 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.080 I like being able to come out to Austin and 0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:52.440 walk back out through the crowd, take a few pictures, 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.080 and take my ass on back to my room. You know, 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:57.240 I don't I don't want a whole bunch of fucking 0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:02.239 people around me. You know, I don't need an entourage. 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.359 I like being down here on ground level with everybody else, 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.160 like treat me like regular people. All Right, I'm gonna 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:12.200 ask you the cliche question that I hate journalists asking me, 0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:17.120 but because you're such a pioneer of the South, Uh, 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:24.160 how do you feel now today that Southern culture is 0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:27.759 so ubiquitous now in hip hop where it's now well, no, no, 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:31.600 I'm just saying that it's it's the it's the gold standard, 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.320 it's you know what. You know what run DMC's version 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.440 of New York was for hip hop where everyone had 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:42.960 to follow that template. Now Southern rap, especially with as 0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:47.560 far as Houston is concerned, Like, how do you do 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:49.480 you feel some sort of way about it now or 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.880 the way that the culture has reinterpret or evolved? 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:56.640 Is it evolved or has it regressed? 0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:01.080 That's kind of what I'm asking Let me let me 0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.000 let me finish though, Let me finish, because I feel 0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.360 like like when when when we first got started, it 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:09.200 was impossible to break in New York. It was nobody 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:13.960 in Peelly fucked with us, you know, but Scarfaces back 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:16.520 was then I got Then I got love? Yeah, then 0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:19.920 I got love. But everything sounds everybody had their own identity, 0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:24.240 though everybody now sounds like one big long a record, 0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.759 like everything sounds exactly the Internet. We can probably blame 0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:31.160 the Internet for the inter neutralized undefeated. Yeah, it's it's 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:33.800 killed in regionalism. You can't tell who's from where. Everyone 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:34.399 sounds the same. 0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:37.239 It's funny you say about regionalism because literally I was 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:39.160 talking to a good friend of mine from I'm from DC, 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.360 but we were talking about him, I know, and we 0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:44.000 were talking about your relationship with DC because he was like, 0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:47.400 you know, in light of the anniversary of celebrating of 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.040 Biggi's death, He's like, for DC, dudes, we weren't really 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.640 in that pop versus Biggie thing. For us, it was 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.560 Scarface then number one because he came to d C 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:57.719 and he performed with go go bands that you still 0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.759 do to this day to day. Yeah, but can you 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:01.879 to speak to that in that relationship, and it goes 0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:04.279 to the regionalism and relationships with different markets like that. 0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:06.680 I like. I like the idea of d C having 0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:09.399 his own identity man like d C never swapped out 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:10.319 and went nowhere else. 0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:12.680 There was always Go Go you know, you had some 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:15.080 you have some dope ass rappers out of there, you know. 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.320 But but mainly the music in d C, like Backyard 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.360 can have an r E can have a show in 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:26.120 d C and sell the fucking place out. They don't 0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:28.680 need no rapper in it. They don't need no big names. 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:31.640 They are the big name. And the whole fucking play 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.720 is from from wall to wall and singing the song. 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:37.680 I'm like, damn ship, I'm glad I didn't close. 0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:44.280 Yeah nah, it's d C is like me in d 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.800 C is like Frankie Beverly in New Orleans, like he 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:49.560 can always go there and get a check, right. 0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.480 DC just said it's like bevery Frankie Beverly in d C, 0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.120 because you know we claim him too, just like we 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:54.680 claim y'all. 0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:56.680 Yeah he is he is. Yeah, you're sure, right, but 0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.800 man like yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:04.800 no no, you're phelly. 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.560 So why you I was born and raised in DC. 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.440 I got a rep and that's what it is. O. 0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:16.640 Mother, Yeah, I see so, mother. As far as it 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.000 progressing or progressing. 0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:21.600 Just. 0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:29.080 Do you feel some sort of way about I do? 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.400 Or are you indifferent? Now? Like okay, well no, it's 0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:33.880 not my turn turn anymore. 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:35.360 Oh I don't care about it be in my turn, 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:37.600 But I still want to hear dope music though. 0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:40.400 All right, what's the last dope new thing you heard? 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:44.800 And you was like, all right, fucking Kendrick Lamar, love Me, 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.920 Love Me, Like, yeah, Like that's dope to me, man. 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:54.840 What did you think about that? The soundtrack? Just not 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:58.400 just to you know, I'm just curious soundtrack have you 0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:00.760 heard that? Since you said Kendrin Lamar, you know, it's 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.720 kind of revolutionary in nature in a way. I mean 0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.280 for what he's saying and it being such a Marvel film, 0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:07.640 and you know, some people would feel like that. 0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:09.720 I'm proud of that that film too. 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.960 By the way, I like the Black Panther film and 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:16.760 I like the performance of it too. Back on on 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:18.640 the do I feel like fucked up? 0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:19.120 Uh? 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:23.880 I mean I wish that everybody had their own identity, bro, 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:27.520 you know, I wish that people would just if if 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.520 see his it went like this, If quest Love did 0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.360 your ship, then you knew his production. If Dray did 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.640 your shit, you knew his production because they didn't sound alike. 0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.760 If Timberland digit shit, you knew you know, timbling, Oh man, 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:39.680 that's timbling right there. 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:40.720 You know what it was? 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:42.880 Rock wild? Did you know y'all? 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:43.080 No? 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:43.439 Yeah? 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:46.960 And now it's like if Premiere digit shit, you know 0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:52.919 you know right now everything's so not like God Damn 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:54.680 that gotta be so and so, so and so. 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:55.520 No that so and so. 0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:59.080 Boys, shit, that sounded like so and so so because 0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:04.520 everybody sound like yeah, you know, and and it focks 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:09.000 me up because it's no the beat's reality in music 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:13.280 no more. Ain't nobody got there. They just fucked you know. 1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:16.240 Get you some strings, bro, But at the same time, 1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:19.040 get you an identity, man, because that ship you're doing 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.320 is gonna last all of three or four years at best. 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:26.120 All right, speak the truth. I do speak the truth. 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:31.400 You have records that you heard two years ago that 1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:34.360 are irrelevant now and the artist is like, ship. 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:41.640 Were going right, right, all said designer. I thought about 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:42.040 it was. 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:45.240 Funny the beast was pumping. Ain't that something? 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:46.320 What ll say with that? 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:47.240 See what it was over. 1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:48.840 Or on? 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:53.120 Cheesy? No, No, what's something? He said the beasts? Ain't 1:00:53.160 --> 1:00:54.040 that something? Anyway? 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:57.280 That ship is you know, I want to I want 1:00:57.320 --> 1:00:59.840 to have a career, man, and I want I want 1:00:59.880 --> 1:01:05.320 to build careers man. So one thing I was going 1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:09.680 to ask you, what is the what is the process 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:12.280 of you putting your albums together? Because I'll go on 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:17.120 record as saying you are the most consistent rapper in 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:20.560 terms of your albums, like you are the most consistent 1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:24.560 album making cat like ever, like all your records. 1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:27.040 And I mean straight up like all your records. It's 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:28.040 I mean, it's a ride. 1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:30.439 You just put it on. You ain't about skipping nothing. Yeah, 1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.440 I try to do that. That's intentional. Okay, So what's 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:34.440 that that's intentional? 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:39.040 Cue? So what's that process? I don't decide what makes it? 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:41.560 What doesn't that feel? 1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:45.120 Man? That vibe? You know? I mean, do you work 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.320 on twenty five songs and then say like here's my. 1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:52.000 Final Every every every every every punches is calculated to kill. 1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:56.160 Every bullet is a shot, it's gonna it's there to 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:58.560 do damage. So if I'm gonna start on the record 1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:02.280 and I'm gonna finish that record, the I can spend 1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:05.080 a week on the record. I have a question about 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:11.720 your just your your your style of m seeing. I'll 1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:15.000 say that you're probably also one of them. I mean 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:17.800 not to say that most of the figures in hip 1:02:17.840 --> 1:02:25.120 hop are caricatures, but but curricatures a curricature. 1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:29.240 Who was right? 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:36.040 But I will say that you, I mean on surface, 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:40.440 you'll you know again someone that that's not baptized and 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:43.720 hip hop will just take agander and just say like whatever, 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:48.160 they're just spinning gangster ship. But you know, you a 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:51.200 lot of your approach to your your your your song 1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:58.240 structure and your lyrics deal with like you having a conscience, 1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:06.560 you you uh expressing regret, you really having three dimensional 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:10.440 thoughts of these things. And it's it's almost like therapeutic. 1:03:10.880 --> 1:03:14.400 I know that you've gone on public record about dealing 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:19.360 with depression and and and that in your life. How 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:23.560 and especially I guess with the black people, we never 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:29.600 we were never too vulnerability. Yeah, like we were always 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:32.520 guarded about the idea of therapy or or that sort 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:37.200 of thing, and and and dealing with depression. But you're 1:03:37.240 --> 1:03:39.880 going to can you speak on how like is writing? 1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:42.760 Are writing these songs your way of doing that when you're. 1:03:46.880 --> 1:03:51.000 Because you've been mad vulnerable on your stuff. So it's it's. 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:54.720 You know, we're praising Jay Z right now for for 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:59.200 four like at the end of his career, but you 1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:06.200 were always want that. I want to give a shout 1:04:06.240 --> 1:04:09.400 out to my teacher that taught me how to write, 1:04:11.400 --> 1:04:13.840 you know, Ms McClusky. She taught me how to write, 1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:18.080 and she she always said that your story had to 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:19.320 have Uh. 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:22.080 The beginning. 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:27.400 Uh was it a climax? 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:28.440 You know the topic? 1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:36.120 It was a piece of statement, She'll kill me if 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:38.400 I didn't know this ship. It was. 1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:51.880 She listened, She's dead Like he didn't either rich or 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:54.680 she did? 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:57.880 Yeah, because I was like in the third or fourth grade. 1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:02.840 But it had to have a a beginning, a body 1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:06.800 of climax, and an ending. So that's how I wanted 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:10.000 to always address, you know, a step to my right, 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:11.240 And that's how I wanted to do my right. 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:13.080 And I always wanted to write about something. 1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:15.360 I always wanted you to feel that shit and oh 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:17.960 my god, and then I always wanted to end it right. 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:21.120 But most of them sees like Biggie himself will say 1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:23.200 that a lot of his narrative was based on what 1:05:23.360 --> 1:05:25.480 his friend said. Okay, well it didn't happen to me, 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:29.440 but I'm gonna tell a story about you know what, 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:30.920 what my friends talk about. 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:32.960 And I put in the story for him. But you're like, 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:36.920 I believes that all of your narrative was I was 1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:39.760 there in that motherfucking room. Huh yeah, but what is 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:40.120 it true? 1:05:40.240 --> 1:05:48.720 Is that true? I? And maybe because sometimes you you 1:05:48.800 --> 1:05:49.840 have to look at it like art. 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:53.080 So I just figured, don't recall. Yeah, you can't claim 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:56.640 all the stuff that he's Let's just say that I 1:05:56.760 --> 1:05:59.800 have witnessed a lot of ship in my time of dying. 1:06:01.680 --> 1:06:03.919 How do you process that without getting numb? 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:09.440 Because that's it's not normal to see, like, it's not 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:14.640 normal to see that much tragedy occur. I'm numb to 1:06:14.720 --> 1:06:17.439 the point until I only feel fucked up when something 1:06:17.520 --> 1:06:20.600 bad happens to kids now, I mean like babies and ship, 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:24.400 Like when when old people dying ship, I don't even 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:29.320 give a fuck no more. If old people died, then 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:34.720 they made it like I'm talking about over fucking you mean, yeah, oh. 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:40.720 I'm just I'm just playing. I'm not serious. I'm not serious. 1:06:41.920 --> 1:06:44.280 Well, yeah, black, if you're old as fuck man and 1:06:44.320 --> 1:06:46.760 you're a mean bastard, then fuck you goodbye. 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:48.440 I can't wait for you to die. 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:50.720 You why are you looking at me? 1:06:53.000 --> 1:06:54.600 I mean I feel the same way as somebody you 1:06:54.680 --> 1:06:56.120 were looking at me like I'm mad. 1:06:56.840 --> 1:07:00.920 Well, you've always been very open about your struggle with 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:04.240 like depression and like bipolar disorder. How do you cope 1:07:04.280 --> 1:07:04.440 with that? 1:07:04.560 --> 1:07:04.680 Now? 1:07:05.680 --> 1:07:08.080 Shit, I know how to get in the box, I 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.320 know how to get out the way. Man, go in 1:07:10.400 --> 1:07:14.800 my room, you know, go to my I can stay 1:07:14.840 --> 1:07:16.240 in the house for weeks. 1:07:16.120 --> 1:07:17.880 Man, you stay. 1:07:18.560 --> 1:07:20.520 Do you think we're in a new era with mental health? 1:07:20.680 --> 1:07:22.320 We can really have these conversations because I feel like 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:24.960 now like we weren't having these like ten to fifteen 1:07:25.040 --> 1:07:27.160 years ago, we weren't talking about bipolar. It was crazy 1:07:27.320 --> 1:07:29.080 Uncle did so, we weren't really dominating. 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:30.840 And they gave that shit a name, and they gave 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:31.680 it some dope. 1:07:31.480 --> 1:07:35.320 Too different, all kinds of guess sir, to. 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:36.520 Prescribe you some drugs. 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:40.160 Fucking it's true, but it is something to it. Correct. 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:41.400 There's nothing to it. 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:41.680 Man. 1:07:41.800 --> 1:07:44.200 Either you want to fucking die or you don't like 1:07:44.400 --> 1:07:47.800 you know what I mean? You're fucking happier, you're sad? 1:07:47.920 --> 1:07:50.440 Bro. Have you gone to therapy? Yeah? 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:53.520 I did two years in the fucking hospital when I 1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:56.200 was a kid. You know, just back and forth. You 1:07:56.240 --> 1:07:58.120 get to the level four and then they let you 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:01.160 out and then you back down at the fucking uh 1:08:01.640 --> 1:08:03.760 pre pre level one or some ship you know that 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:07.160 ain't ship. Can't nobody make you feel don't feel know 1:08:07.280 --> 1:08:10.120 they had uh I had meloyal and lithium. 1:08:10.360 --> 1:08:12.640 See, I know something about giving young kids back in 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:13.400 the days lithium. 1:08:13.440 --> 1:08:16.360 And but but the thing is anything for me to 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:19.160 write you a prescription. Man, I'm down all this motherfucker's crazy. 1:08:19.240 --> 1:08:22.639 Let's give him some dope. And I don't think that's 1:08:22.680 --> 1:08:26.240 the best I don't think that's the best uh antidote 1:08:26.439 --> 1:08:28.400 for that. I don't think that's the best fix, you 1:08:28.479 --> 1:08:30.120 know what I mean? Like, I think that a good 1:08:30.360 --> 1:08:33.040 ass ass whooping will straightened all of that ship. 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:35.519 I expected. 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:37.920 I thought you was going to say, like a lifestyle change, 1:08:39.280 --> 1:08:39.960 like you got a. 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:41.479 Kid that time out, man. 1:08:41.520 --> 1:08:44.800 And if your kid is is like, uh, your kid 1:08:44.880 --> 1:08:47.080 has artistm then I understand, but don't let them dope 1:08:47.120 --> 1:08:47.439 them up. 1:08:48.320 --> 1:08:50.160 But and if your kid is like like my uncle. 1:08:50.240 --> 1:08:52.080 I got an uncle, right, and they don't give him 1:08:52.120 --> 1:08:54.519 no medicine and he's the coolest fuck laughing. 1:08:57.400 --> 1:08:58.160 Don't look over here. 1:08:58.240 --> 1:08:58.519 I don't know. 1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:01.200 Go ahead, I don't laugh you man. 1:09:01.240 --> 1:09:02.280 That fucking makes me mad. 1:09:02.360 --> 1:09:03.760 Bro, I don't want to make you bad. 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:06.120 But when you said I was trying to understand what 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:07.559 you said when you got the BB. 1:09:13.880 --> 1:09:17.439 But you just need a fucking ass whipping man, Like 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:20.360 if you're fucking sucking up in school, man. 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:22.599 Kicked that kid in his ass. They took corporal punishment 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:24.320 out of school, so you fucked your kids up. 1:09:25.360 --> 1:09:28.320 Now, see, we just had this whole conversation where Bazzario 1:09:28.439 --> 1:09:30.439 Dawson about beating your kids and seeing. 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:35.320 That his mother fucking ass. Listen, look at me, look 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:37.879 at me, do it. I got my ass beat. 1:09:41.240 --> 1:09:41.439 Kid. 1:09:43.200 --> 1:09:44.120 No, don't do that. 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:46.800 You look at the average sixteen year old now, and 1:09:46.880 --> 1:09:51.560 he's way worse than I ever will. Yeah, I was 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:53.680 bad as fuck, but I never told my mom to 1:09:53.720 --> 1:09:54.200 fuck off. 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:55.479 How about that? 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:57.519 I never I never fought my dad. 1:09:57.800 --> 1:09:58.400 How about that? 1:09:59.000 --> 1:09:59.519 Calm down. 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:05.680 I never crush my grandma out, Like, definitely, connect man, 1:10:06.000 --> 1:10:08.160 you got to take that fucking board. 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:12.000 But I also been communication opinions. 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:19.080 Now, okay, I'm the guy. Why you why do you 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:21.000 give me the side out before I give the opinion? 1:10:21.120 --> 1:10:23.000 Like because you got beatens? But go ahead, I know 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:23.679 you got the whooping. 1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:25.160 Yeah, we all got. 1:10:25.200 --> 1:10:26.960 I was ready would be a great guy. 1:10:27.760 --> 1:10:30.559 Yeah, but there's also a downside to that as well, 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.519 you know, don side to getting your ass whooped. 1:10:34.080 --> 1:10:36.280 I mean, I did the right thing, but I also 1:10:36.360 --> 1:10:39.240 had a very strange relationship with my dad. You know, 1:10:39.640 --> 1:10:41.680 so he was trying to take something out on you. 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:43.040 You should let your mama whoop your. 1:10:47.840 --> 1:10:50.200 Like back then, like back then in the seventies and 1:10:50.200 --> 1:10:51.519 the eighties when we were growing up. You grew up 1:10:51.600 --> 1:10:54.360 in the seventies, Yes, seventies, al right, cool, So back 1:10:54.439 --> 1:10:56.679 then it was like our dad had like some real 1:10:56.800 --> 1:10:58.600 pressure that was undermand If it wasn't, it was like 1:10:58.680 --> 1:10:59.639 Bill's mama tripping. 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:03.240 I'm a be this nigga asked me. That's how you're right, 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:05.120 beat your motherfucking ass. 1:11:05.439 --> 1:11:07.280 As soon as I get home and hang up, you 1:11:07.320 --> 1:11:09.479 can't beep him call him back because he ain't got 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:09.920 no self. 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:12.400 It's like some different ship, like you gotta. 1:11:12.200 --> 1:11:15.600 Wait on the right and you don't even know that 1:11:16.200 --> 1:11:20.040 gonna come. You hear the door closing, ship and they 1:11:20.160 --> 1:11:22.719 talking and in the room and ship. 1:11:23.600 --> 1:11:24.200 Go to sleep. 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:27.960 You're like, pretty god, you're get in the bathtub and 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:30.439 ship as soon as you walking out that bath to 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:35.960 hit his motherfucker come wow, right, you're laughing. But that 1:11:36.120 --> 1:11:40.679 that was basically like, I know, put that ass whopping 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:42.200 and listen, man, the ass whooping. 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:42.640 Help man. 1:11:42.680 --> 1:11:46.040 And now that I'm older and I realize how important 1:11:46.080 --> 1:11:49.240 those ass whoopings were I'm cool with it, and I 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:51.880 know that. Can't nobody make me feel how I don't. 1:11:53.120 --> 1:11:55.519 If I'm not happy, then fucking I'm not happy. Who 1:11:55.720 --> 1:11:59.479 the mean ship? Get out my fucking room. Mom not 1:11:59.680 --> 1:12:01.920 knows words, but I don't want to. 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:05.600 I don't. I don't. So no more drug prescriptions for 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:09.200 no more lithium at the age except. 1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:12.200 And this episode of Quest Love Supreme is brought to 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:13.480 you by ass Whoopings. 1:12:14.120 --> 1:12:15.599 Yeah, we've got a couple of episodes. 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:16.519 We had a couple of. 1:12:19.240 --> 1:12:24.000 Anyway, get there. You got half a jam, that's all 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:24.720 fun take man? 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:31.240 Yeah, yo, all right, so I got some like rap 1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:33.760 nerd rap up questions. Yes, what happened to too Low, 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:36.280 funky little nigga? 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:38.080 The fucking system got him? 1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:38.960 Oh really? 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:39.479 Yeah? 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:43.280 I think that he would introduced to a to a 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:46.160 lot of grown people ship at such an early age. 1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:48.639 Until the ship that he thought that he could get 1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:51.720 away with, he wasn't smart enough to, you know, get 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:54.320 away with You know, we were smart enough to get 1:12:54.320 --> 1:12:56.000 away with that shit because we were grown. 1:12:56.920 --> 1:12:58.280 But you can't be fucking. 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:03.479 Fourteen years old and smoking, eating, uh, stealing police cars 1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:08.200 and go to jail like shit. Okay, to too Much Trouble. 1:13:08.840 --> 1:13:11.280 It's a lot of twos. That's a lot of twos. 1:13:12.240 --> 1:13:14.920 I think one of the brothers in Too Much Trouble passed. 1:13:16.600 --> 1:13:18.680 I don't know what Drunk is doing right now. 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:20.280 I do know that. 1:13:20.600 --> 1:13:28.240 Uh, what's the little dude's name? Yeah, he's a maintenance 1:13:28.320 --> 1:13:32.200 man now, but he was a maintenance man choice. 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:36.000 I don't know. I haven't seen her in a long 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:37.360 ass time. I mean. 1:13:39.920 --> 1:13:42.960 We didn't. We spoke on it briefly. How did you 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:46.280 get in touch or how did you bring Devin the dude? 1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:48.920 What was y'all's history, Like Devin dude in the Odd Squad? 1:13:50.800 --> 1:13:53.320 So Devin So the Ods Squad had an album on 1:13:53.439 --> 1:13:56.160 Rap a Lot, Fat Enough Everybody, Fat Enough Everybody, and 1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:59.040 that was the best fucking album I had ever heard, 1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:02.840 and I don't think that it did what they wanted 1:14:02.880 --> 1:14:03.200 it to do. 1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:06.040 So the Odd Squad was kind of on the back burner. 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:09.760 I took Devin out of the Odd Squad and put 1:14:09.840 --> 1:14:12.880 him in Face Mob, remember the group I had, Face Mob. 1:14:13.760 --> 1:14:16.400 I produced an album on Face Mob and then that 1:14:16.560 --> 1:14:18.920 did great, and we doubled back and I wanted to 1:14:19.000 --> 1:14:21.519 do a solo album on Devin. I did Devon's first 1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:24.559 sold alb you know that you did. Yeah, I did 1:14:24.640 --> 1:14:25.080 not know that. 1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:29.120 I did that album and it was it was Devon 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:31.200 and the name of the album was. 1:14:32.800 --> 1:14:37.719 But they started. Yeah, y'all, I fucking pioneered that whole 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:41.639 picture in the bathroom booble and and all that shit 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:44.920 we did. We even did a commercial, bro. If you 1:14:44.960 --> 1:14:46.759 get a chance to look up the fucking commercial. 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:47.200 It is the. 1:14:47.320 --> 1:14:51.479 Funniest ship in the world of him in the bathroom. Yes, 1:14:51.800 --> 1:14:56.479 Lord is Ellie Jackson. Yeah, it's an actual video of 1:14:56.600 --> 1:14:58.639 him getting out of the truck and it's just funny 1:14:58.640 --> 1:14:59.000 as hell. 1:15:00.800 --> 1:15:01.680 That was dope, man. 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:04.400 We we we sat down and we did an album 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:07.120 on Devin the Dude, and the rest was history. He's 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:08.240 the funniest kid I know. 1:15:08.880 --> 1:15:11.160 Like, he's funny as Funds. 1:15:11.479 --> 1:15:20.480 Still is great man, and he smokes so much weed. 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:25.760 That's awesome. And he's still productive. I I herald people 1:15:25.840 --> 1:15:26.000 like that. 1:15:26.479 --> 1:15:33.280 Look at Steve picture of productivity of it. 1:15:33.560 --> 1:15:37.360 For sure. I like him. I had a question about 1:15:38.200 --> 1:15:40.160 Lord j. He speaks on it. It's on the intro 1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:44.280 of I think it's Emeritus the Mayor's album. He speaks 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:47.000 on the Little Troy situation. What exactly is that? 1:15:48.880 --> 1:15:49.599 I don't know, man. 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:52.960 You know, me and Troy record sound our differences? Man, Okay, 1:15:53.200 --> 1:15:56.080 he said some things about me that weren't true, and 1:15:57.760 --> 1:16:00.840 you know he had to fix that. So you know, 1:16:00.960 --> 1:16:02.120 me and Troy cool? Y'all good? 1:16:02.200 --> 1:16:02.920 Now? Yeah? We all right? 1:16:02.960 --> 1:16:03.559 Okay, word up. 1:16:04.200 --> 1:16:07.520 I don't I don't know what him and Jay's relationship 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:09.760 is with me and Troy? All right? Okay, yop. 1:16:09.840 --> 1:16:11.840 What's it required in the twenty eighteen to get a 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:13.040 scarface feature? 1:16:15.640 --> 1:16:21.120 I don't feel like it really. The last record I 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:23.439 heard joint, well, the up front. 1:16:23.439 --> 1:16:25.519 In terms of newcasts, you on the Freddy Gibbs record, 1:16:25.680 --> 1:16:28.000 the uh Freddy Gibson mad Lip Joint. 1:16:28.479 --> 1:16:29.400 Yeah, I was on that one. 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:31.479 Yeah, cal you did a cal And record? 1:16:31.560 --> 1:16:33.160 Right, yeah, but now I'm tired, man. 1:16:34.240 --> 1:16:36.080 So whoever got that got in this is a wrap? 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:42.240 Yeah? And then uh fucking thought, wait hold on, he said. 1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:46.599 He said a lot of people retired that day. Man, wait, 1:16:46.880 --> 1:16:47.760 wait all right. 1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:50.640 So to told me when I told him I was 1:16:50.680 --> 1:16:57.160 coming down, he said, ask no, sir, what happened in 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:00.960 the studio? He said, you walked away like left, he said, 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:03.160 and quote he said, Brad come on. 1:17:03.520 --> 1:17:05.800 He grabbed his sons, like get out of here. Like 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:07.679 he just walked out the studio. 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:10.880 I heard his new ship. 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:15.000 Oh yeah, oh my god, which one to join us? 1:17:15.120 --> 1:17:18.120 All of the streams of thought, Oh my god. I'm 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:20.880 purposely not letting people know what's happened with the roots. 1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:22.519 But a lot of things, a lot of things are 1:17:22.520 --> 1:17:26.160 about to happen in twenty eighteen. Boy, But whatever he 1:17:26.360 --> 1:17:28.040 heard just made him walk out. 1:17:28.720 --> 1:17:30.439 But you was supposed to bless it. He supposed blessing, 1:17:30.640 --> 1:17:31.960 but supposed blessed. 1:17:32.280 --> 1:17:36.479 He was just what he does. One of you're one 1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:43.960 of his heroes. He's my hero, but you're his hero. Like, no, no, 1:17:44.120 --> 1:17:44.840 he's my hero. 1:17:45.040 --> 1:17:48.520 Okay, we'll just sit here all day and say you're 1:17:48.600 --> 1:17:50.160 cool with that, But I'm not going to go in 1:17:50.200 --> 1:17:56.519 there fucking with that, going there fucking with him. And 1:17:56.640 --> 1:18:00.519 I'm telling you, I'm warning every rapper no, no, no, no, no. 1:18:02.560 --> 1:18:07.960 No, because the thing is is that what isolated, this 1:18:08.160 --> 1:18:11.479 is what isolated his first twenty years. We're trying to 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:12.840 we're trying to. 1:18:12.920 --> 1:18:15.120 I'm probably the only one that kind of like was 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:18.559 scared of that ten minute freestyle because I was like, no, man, 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:24.519 because then everybody going there, like, wasn't I wouldn't give 1:18:24.640 --> 1:18:27.240 them they were doing that? Was that was their excuse, 1:18:27.320 --> 1:18:32.439 like that man said, because like because Jay kind of said. 1:18:33.960 --> 1:18:36.200 Yeah, he's scary, you're scared. 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:38.439 I mean, it's one thing. 1:18:39.040 --> 1:18:41.599 It's one thing, like the whole I mean, first of all, 1:18:41.840 --> 1:18:48.400 na Is ruined everything with that, so that that line 1:18:48.439 --> 1:18:52.800 alone made people paranoid about getting killed on their own ship. 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:55.240 And it's like the only time you're really going to 1:18:55.320 --> 1:18:58.479 stand next to someone is if they can do something 1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:01.759 for you, as far as help you raise your profile, 1:19:02.360 --> 1:19:04.400 if you get if you get like out run by 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:07.840 somebody that has nobody or nobody, don't really do nothing 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:11.120 for you. But and even though he's every rapper's favorite rappers, 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:14.439 technically like he's in every man nobody category. 1:19:15.720 --> 1:19:18.760 And it's like I can't afford to take an L 1:19:18.960 --> 1:19:19.960 from someone that. 1:19:20.400 --> 1:19:23.960 I'm more famous, more famous than right. 1:19:23.960 --> 1:19:28.200 It ain't even about the L with me. It's like, no, 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:31.679 but he wants he wants to play and reindeer games. 1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:34.240 And it's like a lot of the times cats will 1:19:34.320 --> 1:19:38.840 just say, like, I mean, the reason why it's a big. 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:44.240 I don't feel like here's the thing, you know, how 1:19:44.280 --> 1:19:44.680 you got it. 1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:48.160 The motherfucker's the champ and then you got the number 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:51.320 one contender and the tamp don't want to fight him. 1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:53.519 That's what to reach. 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:56.559 That's what he faced with right now because the motherfucker 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:59.559 that's on top, whoever he is, whoever he may be. 1:20:00.040 --> 1:20:04.080 Want to get a ring, want to king the situation. 1:20:04.320 --> 1:20:06.519 What that boy said about that bulling side, the China 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:08.280 China bulling China shop. 1:20:11.040 --> 1:20:17.880 Yeah, so it's I want I want to be I 1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:19.120 want him to play rain there game. 1:20:19.160 --> 1:20:22.080 I don't think it's gonna happen, and it's not on him, 1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:23.400 it's on I'm. 1:20:23.240 --> 1:20:26.160 Gonna do a record with him. Oh god, I'm gonna 1:20:26.160 --> 1:20:28.560 do a record with him. Yeah, for sure. He I 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:30.720 want that, I want definitely all right. 1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:32.840 Oh damn, I should have take that send so. 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:37.400 He can make sure we're taping an episode right now. Yeah, 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:37.960 I'm definitely. 1:20:38.880 --> 1:20:41.600 He's so fucking dope man, until you know, well, he 1:20:41.680 --> 1:20:44.559 appreciates that because you're definitely one of his his rhyming heroes. 1:20:44.880 --> 1:20:47.840 He's one of he is my rhyming hero. Is it 1:20:47.960 --> 1:20:50.479 true that you and Sleepy Brown? At one point we're 1:20:50.520 --> 1:20:51.680 gonna do a blues record. 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:58.680 Damn, wow ship. I don't know, but does I like 1:20:58.800 --> 1:21:02.080 to How did you hear about that room? 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:04.639 It was if I read it somewhere. I can't remember, 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:06.759 but I remember. I think maybe it was an interview. 1:21:06.800 --> 1:21:09.120 I think maybe it was a sleepy interview something. But 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:12.519 he bentioned something about you and him. You know who 1:21:12.560 --> 1:21:14.920 sleepy daddy is? Oh yeah, Jimmy Brown from Brick from 1:21:14.920 --> 1:21:19.000 Brick right, yeah, yeah, dope right, his daddy's so dope. Man, Like, 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:23.600 so Brick was my he wrote like like three is 1:21:23.680 --> 1:21:27.760 my hero and I met them on the Time Joined 1:21:27.800 --> 1:21:28.600 the Cruise. 1:21:28.320 --> 1:21:28.760 Man, and. 1:21:30.680 --> 1:21:35.639 Damn, I'm sorry, I'm black. 1:21:36.120 --> 1:21:37.920 If you see it was. 1:21:40.439 --> 1:21:45.200 Hey be ill Yeah, okay, wait man, that you're gonna 1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:50.160 enjoy that ship, bro, you should. So Brick was on 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:53.320 the tom Joining the Cruise Show, not the Tom Join 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:54.280 the Cruise Show. 1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:58.320 The Cruise Fantastic Boys. He was one of the fantastic voices. 1:21:58.400 --> 1:22:01.760 Man. If I tell you that they jam like a month, 1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:10.880 I gotta see it. No, it's like I have a 1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:14.000 day job, Like I can't go on cruises the time. 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:18.559 Joining the Cruise is a party that lasts from six 1:22:18.680 --> 1:22:21.360 in the morning to six in the morning to six 1:22:21.479 --> 1:22:24.000 in the morning to six in the morning for seven 1:22:24.280 --> 1:22:25.600 fucking days for. 1:22:25.640 --> 1:22:27.439 All the white people. Time join is very popular. Black 1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:30.040 radio personality was very rich and been doing radio for 1:22:30.040 --> 1:22:31.760 about thirty years. And does this cruise and all the 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:32.800 black people know about it. 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:33.840 And when. 1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:37.240 I do. 1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:41.840 Sh when when you get off that cruise is when 1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:47.959 your vacation starts. Because she fucking whipped it's crazy. 1:22:48.160 --> 1:22:48.800 Du well you know that. 1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:51.120 Who are you? Who? Do you have any like buddies 1:22:51.160 --> 1:22:52.720 that you golf with? Now I read that you're into 1:22:53.040 --> 1:22:56.080 like golfing pretty heavy, man. 1:22:56.520 --> 1:22:56.960 I played. 1:22:57.080 --> 1:22:59.880 I used to play golf a lot with a famous 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:02.720 NBA player man that is no longer with us with 1:23:02.960 --> 1:23:09.000 us man, and uh much love to Moses Malone. Moses 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:12.360 Malone was a bad motherfucker. He couldn't golf work the ship, 1:23:12.439 --> 1:23:12.880 but he was. 1:23:17.000 --> 1:23:17.479 I played with. 1:23:17.680 --> 1:23:17.840 Uh. 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:21.880 You know, Johnny Gill got a hell of a golf game, man, 1:23:22.000 --> 1:23:24.160 fucking black sheep, uh. 1:23:26.960 --> 1:23:34.479 Mean ass golf game. Arian Foster got a decent golf game. Ship. 1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:38.839 I know I'm playing so dope sache the entertainer garbage, 1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:48.880 all the clothes, none of the game. Joe Tory trash can. 1:23:52.200 --> 1:23:52.360 Nah. 1:23:52.439 --> 1:23:54.559 These them my partners man, they got a pretty decent game. 1:23:55.200 --> 1:23:56.400 Who else do I play golf with? 1:23:58.000 --> 1:23:58.360 I don't know. 1:23:58.439 --> 1:24:01.559 I played golf with a lot of old men. Oh 1:24:01.640 --> 1:24:03.000 you know who you know who can play the funk 1:24:03.040 --> 1:24:06.200 out of some golf Clyde Drexler bro. 1:24:06.479 --> 1:24:08.599 I can believe that. Yeah, yeah, don't funk with Clyde. 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:11.760 If you see Clyde on the golf course, don't even 1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:13.559 don't even ask that mother fucking for a picture. 1:24:14.040 --> 1:24:14.960 Just walk the other way. 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:16.920 You drink what you do when you go. You got 1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:18.799 like a whole because I know some people like serious. 1:24:18.840 --> 1:24:20.240 You just you don't even have a cocktail. 1:24:20.240 --> 1:24:23.720 You know, I want to bet gambling. Don't fuck with me. 1:24:23.800 --> 1:24:26.960 Don't talk. If you're gonna talk and play music, get 1:24:26.960 --> 1:24:28.439 in your own card. Don't funk with me. 1:24:32.320 --> 1:24:33.759 I want to go golfing. 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:37.400 What the gulls want to ask you about your relationship 1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:40.120 with you? GK You did the Candy record on the 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:43.519 album Dude, I love that song. 1:24:43.680 --> 1:24:44.479 I did that record? 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:46.559 Is that you playing guitar on that boom boom boom 1:24:46.760 --> 1:24:52.320 boom boom boom boom that's actually a keyboard what boom 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:54.320 boom boom boom and play that ship? 1:24:55.280 --> 1:24:55.519 Wow? 1:24:55.640 --> 1:25:01.599 Oh and that's that's that sample is from the Newness 1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:07.080 Is Gone Eddie Eddie Hendrick. Yeah, I didn't know that 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:11.840 it was as samble, but you see how fucking manipulated 1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:13.080 flick flipped. 1:25:12.760 --> 1:25:14.320 It and mansked and made it dope. 1:25:14.560 --> 1:25:17.280 Yeah, I love that record. Man, have you? Are you 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:19.439 and Bunny y'all still like whatever? 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:19.800 Y'allo? 1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:22.560 Yeah, we're not working right now. He's been calling me 1:25:22.640 --> 1:25:25.080 about doing a record. But like I said, I'm retired, man, 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:31.880 I am read No, I was retired from rapple out 1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:32.680 after emeritis. 1:25:33.160 --> 1:25:35.760 Okay, Okay, Michael makes sense. 1:25:35.800 --> 1:25:37.919 Okay, that was the wink. 1:25:40.400 --> 1:25:44.040 I'm trying to translate to our radio audience. There was 1:25:44.080 --> 1:25:47.519 a wink in there somewhere. It's like to retire and 1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:50.880 and and still hold the position like it's scar facy mirror, 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:55.439 just like how would How was j Prince when you 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:57.040 did the one record when you did. 1:25:56.960 --> 1:25:59.519 To Fix on Death Jam? How did he take that? 1:25:59.680 --> 1:26:03.080 How did that happened? I wasn't signed a rapper up, 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:07.519 oh so I was. I was free to go. 1:26:09.720 --> 1:26:10.720 And what made you come back? 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:17.599 Business decision? No I did. 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:20.160 I did an album and that album was successful, and 1:26:20.200 --> 1:26:22.479 then I did another one and that album was successful too, So. 1:26:24.080 --> 1:26:28.639 That was that. Now I'm enjoying my independence. I love 1:26:28.760 --> 1:26:34.240 being I love being a partner with myself. 1:26:35.040 --> 1:26:38.360 I'm gonna have what was what was the How serious 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:41.320 was the def Jam South and you being the president 1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:42.040 of the label? 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:43.000 Like, how serious was it? 1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:43.639 Well? 1:26:43.680 --> 1:26:45.640 Every time I saw you were in business mode, So 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:50.320 I I had I had a hell of a staff man. 1:26:50.320 --> 1:26:51.320 I didn't even have to do ship. 1:26:51.400 --> 1:26:58.200 But uh, but mastermind, like, the best way to spend 1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:01.600 this money, you know, the best way to roll some 1:27:01.720 --> 1:27:03.000 ship out, the best way to. 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:06.719 What was it? To not spend a lot of money 1:27:06.800 --> 1:27:09.200 doing ship? So you signed luted to Depth Jam? 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:10.000 Correct? I did? 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:13.400 What was it about him that you saw that? Hands? 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:16.519 Hands off? He did it. 1:27:17.000 --> 1:27:19.120 He was already there, and that was a great way 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:22.000 to springboard what I was trying to do. You know, 1:27:22.120 --> 1:27:24.920 he was already I think he was thirty forty thousand 1:27:25.000 --> 1:27:26.599 records already. 1:27:26.680 --> 1:27:28.679 The first was it one hundred? Yeah? 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:32.240 The Rabbit Nah? That was well, yeah, that was the first, 1:27:32.280 --> 1:27:35.760 but the first album it was incog negro And that's 1:27:35.760 --> 1:27:39.160 why he called the Depth Jam back for the first time. Yeah, 1:27:39.640 --> 1:27:42.680 I was shooting the World War two, a World War 1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:48.920 three video with Swiss and yeah, and we was way 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:52.280 out somewhere. I don't know, we were in Long Island 1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:56.799 or something. We was way out, way out, and Shaka 1:27:56.880 --> 1:27:58.080 was saying, yeah, we get ready to go to meet 1:27:58.120 --> 1:27:59.439 with this label so and so so on, and so 1:27:59.479 --> 1:28:02.160 I can't say, man, but I was like, man, before 1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:07.240 you sign, man, please come see me bro. And we 1:28:07.439 --> 1:28:11.439 talked and I relayed, you know, and conveyed to the 1:28:11.600 --> 1:28:13.960 powers that beat it, that's what I wanted to do first, 1:28:14.600 --> 1:28:17.360 and they made that happen. So the rest from there 1:28:17.479 --> 1:28:19.000 is history. So Ludi is a star. 1:28:19.560 --> 1:28:21.200 Was he kind of like the perfect artist since he 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:23.439 came from radio and he'd already had the other record, 1:28:23.479 --> 1:28:25.000 Like you. 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:27.360 Gotta be a strategist to think like this, but somebody 1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:31.519 was on the same page, you know. Yeah, but I 1:28:31.800 --> 1:28:32.559 love Luda man. 1:28:32.840 --> 1:28:35.880 He did his thing, and you know, it put me 1:28:35.920 --> 1:28:38.120 in a different light in people's eyes, Like I'm not 1:28:38.280 --> 1:28:40.360 only can I rap or make beats and ship, but 1:28:40.439 --> 1:28:43.000 I'm I'm a masterfucking planner too. 1:28:44.240 --> 1:28:47.320 I got a bucket list, wrap up questions, but. 1:28:49.000 --> 1:28:51.120 I'm trying to think I got oh rap at question, 1:28:51.280 --> 1:28:53.040 big mic, Where's what's still him? 1:28:53.200 --> 1:28:54.439 I haven't seen Mike Man. 1:28:54.720 --> 1:28:58.360 Uh. He was probably the dopest rapper on rap a 1:28:58.439 --> 1:29:00.760 Out in my opinion, or yeah, I think he was 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:01.600 put him over you. 1:29:02.120 --> 1:29:03.760 Yeah, I think he was dope man. Did you his 1:29:03.880 --> 1:29:04.439 first Yeah? 1:29:04.520 --> 1:29:05.080 Something serious? 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:07.000 I had that record? But you know who was singing 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:12.720 fly holes and Pimp? Yeah? You know who song? 1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:17.320 Looked me in my eyes? Look on my song? Looked 1:29:17.320 --> 1:29:17.880 me in my eyes? 1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:19.320 Who was Pimp? 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:20.080 Wow? 1:29:20.360 --> 1:29:25.200 Okay? Yeah? Man, Pim was called the spot. He really 1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:29.240 was big. Mic was dope man to me. Yeah, he 1:29:29.320 --> 1:29:32.200 had a voice. So when he came into Ghetto Boys 1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:33.800 for the I think it was the Death was it 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:34.120 to Death? 1:29:34.160 --> 1:29:37.120 To his part album? Was y'all? Y'all still cool at 1:29:37.120 --> 1:29:40.519 that point? Like did you welcome him in? Like being 1:29:40.560 --> 1:29:44.360 on that record? Is another stranger in the group, right, Yeah, 1:29:44.400 --> 1:29:50.080 he's another stranger in the group. Man. Actually we were friends. 1:29:50.120 --> 1:29:53.320 He was in the Convicts first and you know three 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:54.479 two three two it's dead. 1:29:55.360 --> 1:29:56.040 When did he pass? 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:59.200 I won't say about a year ago. Man shot him 1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:02.360 in the back of the head ship. Yeah, his friend. 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:05.800 He was walking out of the damn store and dude 1:30:08.160 --> 1:30:09.639 knocked my part in the head off. Man. 1:30:09.920 --> 1:30:14.680 Man. I then revel jenj Man. 1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:18.240 I'm talking on a long ass time. I think you 1:30:18.280 --> 1:30:21.200 might be shooting movies or something though, Okay, speaking. 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:25.120 Of which you're good. Yeah, can we get Judge. It's 1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:29.519 like a double gun jump in a b ill. Feel 1:30:29.560 --> 1:30:32.240 free to jump in, Okay, just like random names like 1:30:32.720 --> 1:30:36.280 my mother. Yeah, I did a record with her back 1:30:36.320 --> 1:30:38.320 in n Okay. 1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:46.559 Yeah, So, Mike Judge, how did that relationship Mike Judge 1:30:46.600 --> 1:30:48.080 the Ghetto Boys fan believe it or. 1:30:48.080 --> 1:30:51.120 Not, I believe it or not. It was the first yeah, 1:30:51.160 --> 1:30:53.800 all through offic space, huge Ghetto Boys fan man. 1:30:54.800 --> 1:30:59.880 So we kind of met and hung out and I 1:31:00.160 --> 1:31:06.519 got a partner of the Theocracyocracy as upgrade two days, 1:31:06.760 --> 1:31:11.880 double dose in my Pamper. That's a funny, dude. Did 1:31:11.960 --> 1:31:14.799 you ever think that that film would be so relevant 1:31:15.040 --> 1:31:19.160 right now? It was made ten years old, right, yeah, 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:24.160 for him, like making Bamboozo for me? No, yeah, like 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:27.679 making Bamboozo back then, I was like, Spike's a little crazy. 1:31:27.760 --> 1:31:30.519 But now it's like Mike was right. 1:31:30.760 --> 1:31:35.880 Yeah. Have any of you have anyview, seen or heard 1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:39.720 of Idiocracy? It was right here? How can you not 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:40.240 know about? 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:43.400 Idiot takes place in the not so distant future and 1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:46.280 it's about now a wrestler becomes president. 1:31:48.080 --> 1:31:51.920 Yeah, I'm close enough. Yeah, it's sort of the same thing. 1:31:52.920 --> 1:31:56.680 Okay, So before we wrap the wrestler, before we wrap up, 1:31:56.760 --> 1:32:02.679 I just want to know, Uh, you've made so many 1:32:02.920 --> 1:32:05.160 appearances on everyone's what is your? 1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:08.439 What is your? In your opinion? Your your your top three? 1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:14.080 Cameos, well not cameos, even performance, but just good experiences 1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:16.160 of making records. 1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:17.559 Was it Park? 1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:17.920 Was it? 1:32:18.040 --> 1:32:19.360 Yeah? That was That was a bump. 1:32:19.479 --> 1:32:22.640 That was a fucking blast because you know, if you 1:32:22.720 --> 1:32:25.599 know too well, did you make Smile wild? 1:32:25.960 --> 1:32:27.160 All right? So he was. 1:32:27.280 --> 1:32:30.040 He was a damn fool in any setting, you know, 1:32:30.040 --> 1:32:33.000 don't give a fuck. He was at a funeral on wedding. Well, 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:36.080 he was a damn nut. So we got a chance 1:32:36.160 --> 1:32:39.639 to record Smile in l A at Larby, I believe. 1:32:40.400 --> 1:32:41.200 So you went out there. 1:32:41.439 --> 1:32:41.600 I was. 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:44.400 I was in l A recording the Untouchable album, okay, 1:32:45.040 --> 1:32:50.960 and he came in a hummer. I was living at 1:32:50.960 --> 1:32:53.880 the oak Wood in Burbank. Anybody from California you know 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:56.080 what that is, Barham? 1:32:56.439 --> 1:32:57.320 Yeah, So. 1:32:59.200 --> 1:33:01.120 I heard we were and then this is the first time, 1:33:01.200 --> 1:33:05.080 like I said, we were smoking that ship and I 1:33:05.200 --> 1:33:07.559 heard somebody on the loudspeaker say, Brad. 1:33:07.479 --> 1:33:10.000 Jordan, we know you're in there. Come out with your 1:33:10.080 --> 1:33:10.640 hands up. 1:33:10.760 --> 1:33:16.519 I was like, oh shit, I'm high. Motherfucking blew my high. 1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:20.160 Like shit, my cousin we sitting in the house scared 1:33:20.240 --> 1:33:22.200 and shitting my cousin. Pete got me and say, man, 1:33:22.240 --> 1:33:28.560 that's pot we get dressed. Go downstairs, man, get my 1:33:28.640 --> 1:33:31.880 manager and ship and Pop was like, yeah, let's go 1:33:31.880 --> 1:33:33.479 to the studio make a song. I'm like, I'm cool 1:33:33.520 --> 1:33:38.280 with that. Say come on, get in. I'm like, now, sir, no, no, 1:33:38.800 --> 1:33:41.000 I'm not gonna ride nowhere with Tupac record. 1:33:41.120 --> 1:33:48.240 Ever. For one, he didn't have a driver's license. For two, 1:33:48.920 --> 1:33:50.000 I knew for a fact that. 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:52.960 He couldn't drive all right. So we followed him in 1:33:53.080 --> 1:33:56.559 the In the van he had a black Hummer. Let 1:33:56.600 --> 1:33:59.200 me tricked out her old school hummer, the old hum bees, 1:33:59.280 --> 1:33:59.800 and this is him. 1:34:00.560 --> 1:34:03.240 He's driving. Oh god. And if I'm not mistaken, he 1:34:03.320 --> 1:34:06.400 was by himself too, I think. 1:34:06.479 --> 1:34:10.160 So we went in there. Man, they laid it out. 1:34:10.200 --> 1:34:12.880 They had the all the he went and got all 1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:15.160 soul food and Henderson and shit. And now he I 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:17.840 mean he really laid that shit out nice man, and 1:34:17.960 --> 1:34:21.560 we did the song, the Smile song. I laid a 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:24.360 verse on and I left h and a couple of 1:34:24.439 --> 1:34:26.240 days later he came to the studio to play me 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:29.479 the Macavelly record, and then after I listened to it, 1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:32.840 I was like, wow, this is great. And he was like, 1:34:32.880 --> 1:34:35.040 come on, man, let's go and hit the Hollywood. They 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:38.360 had what was that shit called the Hollywood something that 1:34:39.120 --> 1:34:41.920 I can't remember, but it was like a club. And 1:34:42.040 --> 1:34:43.639 I was like, man, I gotta finish, man, I gotta 1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:44.800 find a single park I can't. 1:34:45.120 --> 1:34:48.120 Man. Man, that man got mad. That's fucking me. 1:34:50.000 --> 1:34:53.240 He said, Man, you be sitting in here all motherfucking 1:34:53.320 --> 1:34:55.160 day long, man, trying to find a single. 1:34:55.280 --> 1:34:58.960 Man Like, that's stupid. Man, you're wasting your fucking time. Man. 1:34:59.120 --> 1:35:02.280 Just just just write a record, man, and and and 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:09.120 get across to the bitches without offending them. Yeah. 1:35:09.560 --> 1:35:11.880 But he was right though. And the last word that 1:35:11.960 --> 1:35:13.479 you say, that's gonna be the name of the song. 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:17.080 But that's how came to be. 1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:21.920 Well that's what. Yeah, that's how that's how I came 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:25.280 to be. Because I don't spend a whole lot of 1:35:25.360 --> 1:35:27.320 time in the studio no more. I spend a whole 1:35:27.360 --> 1:35:30.360 lot of time, you know, making the album better, making 1:35:30.400 --> 1:35:31.200 the song better. 1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:32.000 You know. 1:35:32.040 --> 1:35:34.320 I don't waste my time trying to write a single 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:37.439 no more, because I know that that ship is not 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:42.080 gonna play no way. I'm just gonna jam. I think 1:35:42.160 --> 1:35:49.080 my ride coming all right, so can you give us 1:35:49.120 --> 1:35:52.120 a second one? Like what was Tupac was wanting? Okay, 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:07.479 I think that this song that I did with I 1:36:07.600 --> 1:36:09.760 think that the guess whose back song was big for 1:36:09.880 --> 1:36:16.000 me too. I let me tell you why. Because I 1:36:16.160 --> 1:36:18.400 called Jay and I asked him to do a record 1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:22.479 with me, and they said, meet me at Baseline line. 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:25.519 Come on. So we're playing the music that you know. 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:31.160 Guru was playing tracks and jay Z he sat back 1:36:31.240 --> 1:36:34.880 in the corner and he listened to it, and so 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:47.640 the next one and then the bak I said, and 1:36:47.760 --> 1:36:49.639 he be looking at you like, oh, like I better 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:54.400 kill you. And then he went to the studio and 1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:57.680 he went in bocalboo and he took the ship right 1:36:58.320 --> 1:37:03.080 and he left. Let me stuck at the board. I'm 1:37:03.120 --> 1:37:05.560 sitting at the boy trying to write this ship and 1:37:07.479 --> 1:37:10.960 ended up getting it done and Kanye got on the record. 1:37:11.000 --> 1:37:12.680 But that was a Kanye beat believing it or not 1:37:12.840 --> 1:37:15.320 to guess who was back? That was Kanye. Kanye did 1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:18.360 the mast majority of the Fixed album too. If anybody 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:20.080 reads credit, that was Kanye West. 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:21.680 On that he did This can't be life too rate, 1:37:21.720 --> 1:37:23.559 because I was like that, this can't be life. 1:37:23.600 --> 1:37:24.599 He did that record too. 1:37:24.760 --> 1:37:26.559 Was that in real time? Your verse? In real time? 1:37:26.800 --> 1:37:28.800 Yeah, I was walking and I was getting out of 1:37:28.840 --> 1:37:34.040 the car service and that shit happened, like, yeah, it's 1:37:34.120 --> 1:37:38.519 it's my buddy. Son got a hold to some hairin 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:44.400 that his grandfather had in the car, and I don't 1:37:44.400 --> 1:37:45.400 know if he drunk it or. 1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:51.320 Swallowed in some kind of way, but that shit fucked 1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:52.120 me up pretty bad. 1:37:53.520 --> 1:37:58.080 And I said, I remember saying counting our blessings because 1:37:58.160 --> 1:38:02.560 Brad's too well, Brad, it's twenty now, damn Yeah, I 1:38:02.640 --> 1:38:05.080 know that shit flew, didn't it eighteen? 1:38:05.240 --> 1:38:10.080 Yeah, Brad just turned twenty on the fifth, so yeah, 1:38:10.840 --> 1:38:14.720 damn deep right. And the third one, man, I can't 1:38:14.760 --> 1:38:24.080 really remember a great time in the studio. I don't know. 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:26.080 I think I saw I was. 1:38:26.520 --> 1:38:30.040 I went to the studio with Chris Brown and Dave Chappelle, 1:38:30.120 --> 1:38:33.599 and most death was in that motherfucker Wow. 1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:34.240 Wait, that's the. 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:39.320 That's the oddest I ever heard. Yeah, and that was 1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:40.760 before the Chapelle Show too. 1:38:41.920 --> 1:38:42.800 What'd you doing the record? 1:38:43.400 --> 1:38:44.680 I don't know what the fuck I was doing. 1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:48.280 Were you and Cuban the studio together when y'all did 1:38:48.439 --> 1:38:49.519 the Hand of the Dead Body record? 1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:54.000 Uh? 1:38:56.400 --> 1:38:56.759 Maybe? 1:38:57.560 --> 1:38:59.639 But I know that Cube has to leave the studio, 1:39:01.320 --> 1:39:03.519 like he'll take the beat with him, okay, and come 1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:05.679 back to the next day and lay it. Okay, gotcha. 1:39:06.360 --> 1:39:09.479 I don't think he was a spontaneous writer at that time. 1:39:11.280 --> 1:39:12.639 I did a lot of records, but I was cue. 1:39:12.640 --> 1:39:16.360 That's one of my phase. Man, I love Yeah, that's 1:39:16.400 --> 1:39:17.479 my That's one of my phase. 1:39:17.640 --> 1:39:18.599 Man. I love cute. 1:39:18.720 --> 1:39:21.360 All right, I got one more, let's go ahead. Who 1:39:21.520 --> 1:39:23.439 came up with the concept for the video of My Block? 1:39:24.240 --> 1:39:24.799 My Block? 1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:31.479 I don't even remember the guy's name, but I did 1:39:31.600 --> 1:39:33.360 want a seamless video. Yeah. 1:39:33.520 --> 1:39:35.160 I just wanted to go from one end of the 1:39:35.200 --> 1:39:37.719 street to the I wanted to show the whole entire street. 1:39:37.760 --> 1:39:39.920 I didn't want no cuts in the video. I just 1:39:39.960 --> 1:39:42.040 wanted to Was there any trick used it? And I 1:39:42.160 --> 1:39:47.200 used to watch It's no cuts? It was a railroad 1:39:47.240 --> 1:39:50.639 track and different scenes were set up. How many takes 1:39:51.280 --> 1:39:51.479 did it? 1:39:51.560 --> 1:39:53.120 Say? No, we did that ship all day. 1:39:53.160 --> 1:39:58.719 We went backwards and then forward, backward and then forward. Wow. 1:39:59.479 --> 1:40:00.719 That's one of my favorite videos. 1:40:00.760 --> 1:40:03.000 Man. Yeah. I think we shot that ship for like 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:03.880 two days. 1:40:05.439 --> 1:40:08.360 Because we shot like the early part of it one day, 1:40:09.720 --> 1:40:12.559 and then we shot again the next day, and then 1:40:12.600 --> 1:40:13.760 we finished it that night. 1:40:13.960 --> 1:40:17.160 Okay, okay, So we got everything out the way I 1:40:17.240 --> 1:40:17.760 think we got it. 1:40:18.200 --> 1:40:20.479 I got more wrapped, like we we're good. I just 1:40:20.520 --> 1:40:22.800 want to say, man, just thank you for everything you've done. 1:40:22.880 --> 1:40:23.960 Just want to give you your flowers. 1:40:25.080 --> 1:40:28.040 Yeah, thank you, thank you for your honesty. 1:40:28.960 --> 1:40:30.840 Well, I'm really honest. I can't help it. 1:40:31.240 --> 1:40:37.400 Oh I did think so psp. Okay, So I told 1:40:37.479 --> 1:40:39.599 really decent years ago, and you can confirm the story 1:40:39.600 --> 1:40:41.479 if you were there. He said that at the intro 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:44.040 of we can't be stopped where they where. It's like 1:40:44.160 --> 1:40:45.880 first we beat on the door, then we kicked them 1:40:45.960 --> 1:40:48.760 up again where the door gets kicked down. He said 1:40:48.800 --> 1:40:51.479 they actually kicked the door down in the studio to 1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:54.160 make that sound effect. I don't remember that, okay, all right, 1:40:56.360 --> 1:40:58.240 but I wasn't never in the studio with him though, 1:40:58.600 --> 1:41:01.479 So y'all did sometimes. Okay, Yeah, we had verses. I 1:41:01.600 --> 1:41:04.280 remember now if you listened to my uh the part 1:41:04.360 --> 1:41:08.400 on murder my reasons of insanity, Okay, when it goes up, 1:41:10.280 --> 1:41:10.920 that was a real. 1:41:13.120 --> 1:41:15.600 Yeah. I was about to see y'all guns effects were like. 1:41:16.000 --> 1:41:18.200 Real because we went out to the ranch and shotguns 1:41:18.200 --> 1:41:20.479 and put them on Listen, man, we went out to 1:41:20.560 --> 1:41:23.160 the ranch and shotguns and put them on debts. 1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:26.559 Yes, ship, Yeah, I was gonna say that the sound of. 1:41:26.560 --> 1:41:29.800 Your guns were real. Yeah, they were a little too real. 1:41:29.920 --> 1:41:34.280 They were probably a little too real. Bro, Seriously, I'm 1:41:34.320 --> 1:41:37.760 good man. Anything Steve, anything, just play it one more time, 1:41:38.000 --> 1:41:40.599 just my well, No, I don't give him that ship. 1:41:40.600 --> 1:41:42.240 I would't give him anything. It's the only way to 1:41:42.280 --> 1:41:43.200 close the show. I would. 1:41:43.400 --> 1:41:45.160 I would end that ship like this right now and 1:41:45.280 --> 1:41:51.040 be done. I wouldn't give him anything. I told you 1:41:51.120 --> 1:41:52.040 I was mean as fuck. 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:55.640 Yeah, No, your your recollection. 1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:57.240 I just want to ask you about your actual not 1:41:57.360 --> 1:42:00.559 what you're listening to. But you're like collect his records, 1:42:00.600 --> 1:42:02.720 still on your uncle's records or anything. You have a 1:42:03.000 --> 1:42:08.960 large record collection. That's my question. Seems he seems friendly. 1:42:09.800 --> 1:42:12.840 Have I have some ship I got you know what 1:42:12.920 --> 1:42:14.680 I do have that's like a great album to have. 1:42:14.800 --> 1:42:18.040 I have the Marvin Gaye. Hear my dear double album. 1:42:18.240 --> 1:42:20.840 I have that I can remember for sure. I got 1:42:20.920 --> 1:42:23.240 Pink Floyd Dogs out of the Moonship. I got Kissed 1:42:23.240 --> 1:42:24.680 double platinum, he scribbing that one. 1:42:25.320 --> 1:42:27.400 Look at these Vinyl snobs, you are not impressing him. 1:42:27.400 --> 1:42:29.479 They're like, yeah, well it sounds like he only has 1:42:29.560 --> 1:42:30.160 three records. 1:42:32.080 --> 1:42:38.000 Largers' hoping. But but you know what it's like, man, 1:42:38.080 --> 1:42:40.960 what are you? What are your five question? 1:42:42.080 --> 1:42:44.840 No? Because he seemed like a guy that top not 1:42:44.960 --> 1:42:47.439 even not even does an island. Because I feel like 1:42:47.520 --> 1:42:49.760 you need music to meditate in the calm you down 1:42:49.840 --> 1:42:53.360 sometimes and to zone out. So what do you What 1:42:53.520 --> 1:42:55.400 are the five records that you choose? What are your 1:42:55.439 --> 1:42:57.200 go to when you're driving in the car, Like you 1:42:57.280 --> 1:43:02.920 gotta hear this record? Uh? I like wrapped around your 1:43:02.960 --> 1:43:04.720 fingers a boy, the Police. I mean I like the 1:43:04.880 --> 1:43:07.120 synchronic of the album a lot. Yeah. 1:43:09.320 --> 1:43:10.920 I like the Marvin Gaye. 1:43:11.439 --> 1:43:11.559 Uh. 1:43:12.560 --> 1:43:13.960 Yes, you're going to your Pandora. 1:43:14.000 --> 1:43:18.840 I gotta go, Yeah, going to my ship. You know, 1:43:19.040 --> 1:43:21.560 Peter Peter Gabriel had a bomb ass and you know 1:43:21.600 --> 1:43:25.160 I go to that the sole album. But I think 1:43:25.240 --> 1:43:28.200 that like when when I really want to really ride 1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:33.200 and meditate, I turn on like Bob Marley's uh, I turned. 1:43:32.960 --> 1:43:35.120 On his whole ship, you know, from uh. 1:43:37.680 --> 1:43:44.160 Naturalistic to uh some man vibration of uh Peter Tosh, 1:43:45.960 --> 1:43:47.240 I meant something on I am? 1:43:47.680 --> 1:43:51.920 I am, I am, I have this sign up, mose ass. 1:43:52.040 --> 1:43:55.639 You can not move by tall like he was? Awesome? 1:43:55.720 --> 1:43:55.880 Man? 1:43:57.640 --> 1:44:00.519 Can I meant something on my sholf? Was that yo? 1:44:00.680 --> 1:44:02.679 As much as the music SNIW, but I am about 1:44:02.680 --> 1:44:07.840 these hundred thousand records. My Marley i Q is like 1:44:08.200 --> 1:44:09.240 devastatingly low. 1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:10.040 Wow. 1:44:10.400 --> 1:44:13.120 Well you two, Yeah, I know legend. That's like the 1:44:13.200 --> 1:44:17.959 only one I know. Yes, I know legend, but that's about. 1:44:17.920 --> 1:44:20.160 Your eighties college student or nineties college student. 1:44:20.240 --> 1:44:23.720 Like that's the record. Yeah, no, all right, we're the 1:44:23.800 --> 1:44:35.639 last two. So synchronicity maybe so uh Mary mar Oh, 1:44:35.760 --> 1:44:46.040 then what's your last one? Hey man, midnight? All right, 1:44:46.760 --> 1:44:50.040 I'm mess with you. All right, So ladies and gentlemen, 1:44:50.080 --> 1:44:51.599 please give it up for the one and only scar 1:44:51.720 --> 1:44:56.760 faced man. This is amazing. Thank you to the fine 1:44:56.800 --> 1:45:05.439 folks at south By Southwest. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, thank you, Gatsby. 1:45:05.520 --> 1:45:07.960 I've been up there before. That's cool as hell up 1:45:08.000 --> 1:45:08.879 the top there. 1:45:08.840 --> 1:45:12.400 We're all gonna get tattoos afterwards and walking again. 1:45:12.520 --> 1:45:16.320 I think that, I think that, I think that fucking 1:45:16.360 --> 1:45:24.360 cleansing pill is kicked in playing playing, playing, or we 1:45:24.560 --> 1:45:27.960 have of unpaid Bill Fonticolo. It's like he is Sugar 1:45:28.040 --> 1:45:30.760 Steve and the one only scar face. This is quest 1:45:30.840 --> 1:45:34.960 Love signing off. We will see you on the Mexican. 1:45:36.840 --> 1:45:42.280 Thank God West. 1:45:42.360 --> 1:45:46.240 Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 1:45:46.360 --> 1:45:48.560 was produced by the team at Pandora. 1:45:52.200 --> 1:45:55.439 For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 1:45:55.720 --> 1:45:58.759 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.