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Speaker 2: we look back at a twenty eighteen interview with the
Speaker 2: one and Only Scarface. Earlier this month, the Houston legend
Speaker 2: performed at the Ruse Picnic.
Speaker 4: Listen back as he talks ghetto boys, solo career, and
Speaker 4: much more.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, my words in my bass, Yeah, I called you
Speaker 5: don't fuck it. That's all.
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Speaker 3: Rod My name is Fante Yeah, Pure Satisfaction. Yeah, with
Speaker 3: the King of the South. Yeah, DJ Action Supremo Supremo,
Speaker 3: Role called Supremo.
Speaker 4: Roll call.
Speaker 5: My name is Sugar Yo.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed though I thought I was gonna meet Al Pacino.
Speaker 6: Supreval roll Suprema Son Son Supremo.
Speaker 4: Roll call.
Speaker 5: I'm on pay Bill. Yeah, not feeling mad. Yeah, welcome
Speaker 5: Scarface Yeah, real name Brad.
Speaker 6: Suprema Supremo. Roll called Suprema Son Supremo.
Speaker 7: Roll call best like em Yeah with scarfre is in
Speaker 7: the place. Yeah, and it feels real weird. Yeah, but
Speaker 7: I love Faces Rome.
Speaker 6: Supremo. Roll cueing up right now, sure, roll call.
Speaker 3: My name is Space Yeah at X Yeah, talk that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm the best. Roll call.
Speaker 6: Suppreval roll call Brema Sun Sun, roll call Suprema Son
Speaker 6: Sun Supremo.
Speaker 3: Roll called Suprema.
Speaker 5: Yes Sun Supremo roll call. Wait before I start the
Speaker 5: introduction for Layah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a special South by
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Speaker 5: Thank you all for coming out.
Speaker 3: Thank you for Ben.
Speaker 5: We are live outside behind a gas station. Tattoo Polo.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm trying to go to that tattoo, Paula. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get ink up.
Speaker 5: We'll join you.
Speaker 3: We'll all get the same collectively, all do that together.
Speaker 3: To my far right, I will say this is the
Speaker 3: god of blue collar grown man music. Make yes, yes,
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Speaker 3: own Finn Tiglo. What I gotta see your last name
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Speaker 3: the super Uh when I say the super engineer for
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Speaker 5: Blah, this man is the roots I forgot. Yeah us too.
Speaker 3: Uh. This is an also a host of chatting with
Speaker 3: Sugar on Instagram. Follow this man, we we need him
Speaker 3: to have more followers.
Speaker 5: S U g A.
Speaker 3: Sugar, Steve s t E v E. Sugar Steve uh
Speaker 3: mandel right here to uh police clap.
Speaker 5: And uh, my far life is my my fellow Hamiltonian.
Speaker 5: That sounds regal as fuck.
Speaker 3: I don't think yeah or hamilt Yeah, this is my
Speaker 3: my Hamilton brother right here. And also the the only
Speaker 3: member of q O l S. It's one step away
Speaker 3: from an egot or ghetto. We called it ghetto that
Speaker 3: g d E and the T. He's just waiting on
Speaker 3: the O day. Hope to be ghetto one day. You
Speaker 3: want to be ghetto, man, I'm telling you. And also
Speaker 3: the God of the children is children's television workshops still
Speaker 3: a thing?
Speaker 5: Or now sesame streets on HB.
Speaker 3: My boss is here, boss television works out still think no,
Speaker 3: it's not works Okay, I'll just took it over. Okay,
Speaker 3: I see anyway, give it up for unpaid bill.
Speaker 5: Two of my far left, please.
Speaker 3: They're not it hurts yes. And the the first lady
Speaker 3: of q l S. She organizes our lives and disrupts it.
Speaker 3: We haven't called her that in a second. I forgot
Speaker 3: I've been here in a minute. Well now now we
Speaker 3: we we dubbed her. It's like you so ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 3: please give it up for it.
Speaker 5: It's like.
Speaker 7: Thank you'll all right?
Speaker 5: And uh, what can I say?
Speaker 3: You know, our guess is practically on every top five
Speaker 3: list of your favorite MC's MC ever compiled.
Speaker 5: If you ask any MC that you respect.
Speaker 3: That from anywhere from respect, Yeah, this man is in
Speaker 3: easily in their top five or their top three.
Speaker 5: Most of the times he's number one. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Uh. From his days of being the the the PM,
Speaker 3: mar C's Nightmare posted War as one third of the
Speaker 3: highly influential UH Boy. Yeah, from his jaw dropping sol
Speaker 3: outputs as as uh as a solo artist classics as
Speaker 3: uh missus Scarface's back, the world is yours, the fixed
Speaker 3: last of the dying breed, especially the Diary.
Speaker 5: And let's not forget his appearance as Upgrade. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: shot right here in at XO.
Speaker 3: Did not to mention you. You've appeared with every hip
Speaker 3: hop god You've you've been on, from Big to jay
Speaker 3: Z Too Too Short to to Tupac to Devin the
Speaker 3: Dude Too. I can name them all, but we'll be
Speaker 3: here all day. Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up
Speaker 3: for God himself. Scarface. Yes, yes, I appreciate that introduction.
Speaker 5: How you doing, man? I'm doing good? How y'all doing so?
Speaker 5: Am I allowed to call you?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 5: Rappers or are no? Man? We're friends for real, don't Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying When I see you what, Brad,
Speaker 3: But exactly, I know that you know we're in a
Speaker 3: professional settings and you know I'm still I'm still be red, Okay,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 5: That's be ill. That's right, don't forget to forget it tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Be ill.
Speaker 3: How you doing today, bro? I can't complain about it, man,
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it. It looking good, man, I feel pretty good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say, in the last two years when
Speaker 3: I've seen you, are you used to people doing double
Speaker 3: takes and still like not knowing it?
Speaker 5: That that you when you come up and say, how
Speaker 5: doing no like it's the fifteen year old bread? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I want to see I want the secret of age regression.
Speaker 3: We were talking back stage earlier. You said you don't
Speaker 3: do no bread now like I'm not doing no bread. Wow,
Speaker 3: A chill on the bread, and I'm getting ready to
Speaker 3: do this this this uh uh intestinal cleanse. Okay, No,
Speaker 3: I don't know. The dude was talking about some testing
Speaker 3: ship and it says that that it's just gonna bust
Speaker 3: your ass wide open, stay.
Speaker 5: In the house for like two weeks.
Speaker 3: What right?
Speaker 4: That doesn't start today?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 3: I took my first shot today, so we got I
Speaker 3: was kidding, but yeah, if you smell something found less
Speaker 3: mean you dropped like you dropped like one hundred over
Speaker 3: the past coup of years.
Speaker 5: Right, how long it was? Five years?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Wow? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What was it? What did you do?
Speaker 5: Like cleanses and eating right and running and.
Speaker 7: Uh and having a five year old?
Speaker 5: No that came later.
Speaker 3: Can I can I ask though? Can one fully commit?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know we're in Austin, where Austin is
Speaker 3: quote weird, but can one fully commit to a healthy
Speaker 3: lifestyle below the Mason Dixon line?
Speaker 5: Hard?
Speaker 3: If you want to south, if your life is on
Speaker 3: the line, you gotta do with what what what they say?
Speaker 7: Do?
Speaker 5: Oh that's your yo.
Speaker 7: But I was in the fifth Ward last year and
Speaker 7: I was trying to find greens. It was really hard.
Speaker 5: Well, you didn't go to the right spot in the ghetto.
Speaker 5: They ain't got no healthy story.
Speaker 7: This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They got they got fucking uh.
Speaker 3: The little uh Chinese little spots that they that the
Speaker 3: soul food, that's the new soul food. Yeah, so you
Speaker 3: got to go to a TV shout out to a
Speaker 3: g B B because my buddy was like a higher
Speaker 3: up at hg BE and he passed away.
Speaker 4: Are you shouting out heaps of them on the stage.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on here?
Speaker 5: What is a GV? Never mind.
Speaker 3: Outside Joe, but they really really take care of the people, man.
Speaker 3: So I got a lot of respect for those guys.
Speaker 3: And I don't spend no money nowhere else but there.
Speaker 3: That's what's up. So you were born in the fifth Ward,
Speaker 3: correct sir, yo every every time, like, oh for one
Speaker 3: hundred on that from the south side.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 5: Okay, but you were born in Houston. Correct? Pretty much
Speaker 5: you're going outside of Houston. Still wrong? May close enough Houston.
Speaker 5: I guess I'm a Houstonian. Okay, I'm a native Houstonian.
Speaker 3: Cool, Okay, Well yeah, I actually I don't know much
Speaker 3: about your your your early beginnings, like what was your
Speaker 3: childhood like as far as before you got into hip hop,
Speaker 3: Like it was a lot of funk and rock and roll. Really,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a walking encyclopedia. When it comes to funk
Speaker 3: and rock and roll, it's you know, soul, not R
Speaker 3: and B.
Speaker 5: Yes, soul. Okay, we'll explain to me, Like what was
Speaker 5: your what was your household?
Speaker 3: Like, like, how did you so when my mom went
Speaker 3: to work, I went to my grandmother's house, and all
Speaker 3: my uncles were in the rock and roll, so we
Speaker 3: played you know, uh thin Lizzy, Ted Nugent, Uh fucking.
Speaker 5: You're a big Pink Floyd fan, right Pink Floyd Rush.
Speaker 3: But when we got home, we listened to Marvin Gaye
Speaker 3: and Prince you know Osley Brothers.
Speaker 5: That was at my mom's house. At my grandmother's house
Speaker 5: was rocked out.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, was that unusual though for your Like why
Speaker 3: were your uncles into that particular?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I just that's hot.
Speaker 3: That's what I grew up here, So I don't I
Speaker 3: didn't know it was anything. It's supposed to be different
Speaker 3: about it. You feel me like, I didn't know even.
Speaker 7: When you talk to your friends about music.
Speaker 5: I grew up around all my uncle so I could
Speaker 5: fight real good.
Speaker 3: So no one tests a year. My grandma think me, man,
Speaker 3: we fight like okay, okay, fight with my uncles. I
Speaker 3: was a little dude fighting the big dudes. So ano
Speaker 3: that you're a guitarist, so like, how still I'm pretty good?
Speaker 3: I don't remember that you Are you related to Johnny Nash? Yes,
Speaker 3: I can see clearly now, Wow, he's your cousin. Does
Speaker 3: your family come from Jamaica or is he just know
Speaker 3: what happened?
Speaker 5: Is Johnny from Houston? What about that accent? Though?
Speaker 3: He don't got no accent? Your faking accent? Johnny don't
Speaker 3: got no Jamaican accent? You serious?
Speaker 5: Oh god?
Speaker 7: People just affiliate that song with like no, he wrote
Speaker 7: a lot of records for ball Mally too.
Speaker 5: Did you know that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Okay, I would assume that he came from Jamaica.
Speaker 3: So he's from Houston, Texas South Park, Damn man, John
Speaker 3: Andy Coole as hell too. He got a song that's
Speaker 3: gonna last forever, man, like you know, your kids, kids,
Speaker 3: kids don't know.
Speaker 5: I can see everybody knows the way. I got a
Speaker 5: better one than that. What he wrote? Hercules Brothers the cartoon?
Speaker 5: What wait?
Speaker 3: What what's going on? They had a cartoon called Hercules.
Speaker 3: Y'all remember he wrote the fucking ship for it. Sorry
Speaker 3: we should I didn't know that. I didn't wow Hercules
Speaker 3: that's him? Oh wow, yeah wow. So he just left Hercules.
Speaker 3: He left the music, went to Jamaica, really left Hercules went.
Speaker 5: To Bob as you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's then I know that.
Speaker 5: Is he a first cousin or second cousin or first cousin.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think that his grandfather and my grandfather
Speaker 3: was brothers and some ship.
Speaker 5: I don't know. It was old folks. I annoyed.
Speaker 3: We cousins and we be hanging out and I haven't
Speaker 3: seen him in the about eight months though.
Speaker 5: Okay, oh, so you're still live and yeah, you're alive,
Speaker 5: and well he lives in Houston, very rich.
Speaker 4: Can he still see clearly?
Speaker 5: You know what that may be? That's a good question.
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I don't know. That was. That
Speaker 5: was a good one seen him? Do I get a yes? Sorry,
Speaker 5: it already happened a Q. Yes, don't do that, Steve.
Speaker 5: I won't say.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do better than that.
Speaker 5: That was. That was the best one. So what what
Speaker 5: was the The only Houston resident that we've had on
Speaker 5: the show is Premiere. So how premiere not from Houston?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: We got a map and like that ancestry dot com
Speaker 4: up here.
Speaker 5: I think Premiere from prayv you and some ship.
Speaker 3: Yet it's not Houston man. Okay, all right, so whostone
Speaker 3: anybody from Houston?
Speaker 7: So break down.
Speaker 3: If you have heard him say that he had Houston roots,
Speaker 3: but it might be BV roots, Okay, but we love Premier.
Speaker 5: He's dope and he's dope.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, all right, you set me straight, and my
Speaker 3: ongoing uh ignorance of geography continues.
Speaker 5: On the show. It's really you can be I don't know, well, no,
Speaker 5: not really.
Speaker 3: You can't really get prav confused with Houston because it's
Speaker 3: not really that close.
Speaker 5: Okay, that ship is like an hour away or something.
Speaker 7: I mean, Textas is big as ship outside. We're just
Speaker 7: trying to learn it's big, you know, man. But because
Speaker 7: you don't even know the different personalities between you know, Austin, Texas, Dallas.
Speaker 7: Everybody got different personalities.
Speaker 5: Right, let me break down the pres here we go.
Speaker 3: Okay, me being from Houston, like I love Houston, right,
Speaker 3: but I also know that that that Houston is like
Speaker 3: it's a SYRP town, so it's cool and laid back
Speaker 3: and slow, all right. Dallas it's like like fucking Mars.
Speaker 3: Like it's a totally different world in Dallas than it
Speaker 3: is in Houston and Austin.
Speaker 5: It's like a small like Humbo County.
Speaker 3: Like it's like it's like everybody's doing their own ship
Speaker 3: and enjoying it.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, nobody's mad. They go out,
Speaker 5: they they jam, they party.
Speaker 3: They have south By Southwest, they have Austin City limits
Speaker 3: or whatever that ship is.
Speaker 5: For the record, Austin is my second favorite city on
Speaker 5: the earth. This is the ship, Like, this is badass.
Speaker 3: If I were to retired, this is the second this
Speaker 3: is the second city on my time. This is like
Speaker 3: Austin is in the class by itself. I wish that
Speaker 3: they would legalize marijuana here.
Speaker 7: South in the Texas were all that with that?
Speaker 5: Not y'all?
Speaker 7: Damn it got quiet.
Speaker 3: I don't give I think I think Austin's with you.
Speaker 3: I think it's the rest of Texas coming to board.
Speaker 3: I think all of the fucking old people need to
Speaker 3: die and let us have it. I don't give what funk.
Speaker 3: So how did how did hip hop culture reach you
Speaker 3: in in Houston? It started with music, you know, it
Speaker 3: started with music. It started it started with growing up
Speaker 3: in a band. I started to learned how to play ship.
Speaker 3: You know. So you were in high school bands and
Speaker 3: then I was in elementary school, junior high school bands.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about bands like everybody when I when I
Speaker 3: was growing up, everybody played something, you know, everybody had
Speaker 3: a bass, so somebody had some drums in their so
Speaker 3: somebody had to guitar, somebody blew the horn, and some ship.
Speaker 3: Now that they've taken the the music out of the
Speaker 3: schools and then we're suffering. You know, music was like
Speaker 3: a universal language. Man, we all love that shit so
Speaker 3: now and now it's gone.
Speaker 5: But excuse me. I grew up in that. I grew
Speaker 5: up in music, and when.
Speaker 3: Hip hop came, you know, it was mind blowing because
Speaker 3: I've seen some people that was like me. They was
Speaker 3: kids and they was jamming. You know, Uh, what's the ship?
Speaker 3: Rappers Delight was one of the first hip hop songs
Speaker 3: I had heard. My cousin is from New York, so
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time up there and I
Speaker 3: heard a lot of shit. So it was kind of
Speaker 3: like cheating a little bit because them they could really
Speaker 3: really rap and I can really really rap too, So
Speaker 3: we had a lot a lot of.
Speaker 5: Fun, you know what I mean. So you guys, and
Speaker 5: that's how you got a lot of your education. I did. Well.
Speaker 3: See that that shows why you're a cut above the
Speaker 3: rest because you have you have that early education.
Speaker 5: With I was. I was, I was way in the
Speaker 5: hip hop like way ahead in hip hop.
Speaker 3: Do you remember how old you were? How old you
Speaker 3: were when you wrote your first round? Probably was about
Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen. But what was the moment where you were like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I seen a man die. Wow, That's when I knew, like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, oh you mean literally not the song the
Speaker 3: song I song.
Speaker 5: If you ain't him to my in my catalog. That
Speaker 5: was when I really knew that. Oh ship you guys,
Speaker 5: when you broke that song, it took that long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was all fun and games in
Speaker 3: the beginning, right, You make a song and you go
Speaker 3: home and ship and listen to it. Bro I broke
Speaker 3: my fucking hand. I broke my hand, and I had
Speaker 3: some painkillers, and I was I drink. I used to
Speaker 3: drink a lot of Miller lights, and I smoked weed,
Speaker 3: and I was so high, like I had never been
Speaker 3: high in my life.
Speaker 5: And I remember, Yo, can we hang out as we should?
Speaker 5: Let me remind you awesome You called smoking going to
Speaker 5: jail right? So quiet? No, it's quiet because.
Speaker 2: Events staff, they're not they're not cops. No, sorry, So
Speaker 2: you were saying you were high as fuck.
Speaker 5: I was super high, super high, And then.
Speaker 3: I remember being in the studio and the lights was off,
Speaker 3: like like my it was dark, dark, dark, and all
Speaker 3: you can see was the the glass. The engineer in
Speaker 3: the glass was Mike Dean. It was just me and
Speaker 3: Mike Dean in that studio, so was the engineer. That's
Speaker 3: the inspiration for all the great song. No don't play
Speaker 3: ship either.
Speaker 5: I don't play that. So when.
Speaker 3: The first words and the way that it was dark
Speaker 3: and it was cold in there, and I don't like cold,
Speaker 3: all right, So when those first words came.
Speaker 5: Out right shot seal something my fucking body, I was like, oh.
Speaker 3: You too.
Speaker 5: It hit me.
Speaker 3: It's kind of where I was. And it was at
Speaker 3: that moment Brad and new he had sucked up. Right then,
Speaker 3: it's right right then, hit. It's weird to hear you
Speaker 3: have a spiritual experience about yourself, like you're also you're
Speaker 3: also one of your your favorite rappers.
Speaker 5: That's kind of cool. You don't really like me? No
Speaker 5: really No.
Speaker 3: It was that moment that I knew I have fucked up.
Speaker 3: I hit that he greeted his father with this that ship.
Speaker 5: I was like, tell us the line, the full line.
Speaker 3: He greeted his father with his hands out rehabilitated, slightly,
Speaker 3: glad to be the man's child. He glad to see
Speaker 3: his old man when he walked out that bag. Shots
Speaker 3: just shot that ship up your spine. Well, I don't
Speaker 3: know if y'all ever had a really, really good nut,
Speaker 3: but that's how it felt.
Speaker 7: You'll learn maybe when your thirties.
Speaker 5: I ain't am out of that, my bad man. I
Speaker 5: want to apologize to Sesame Street.
Speaker 3: So wait, what what I'm saying is you're saying that
Speaker 3: when you wrote that, then you felt like you were
Speaker 3: when I wrote it when you heard it back. Okay,
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, when in your teens did you
Speaker 3: feel like Okay, I'm just gonna prosue.
Speaker 5: You just mean you were just messing around that whole time?
Speaker 5: Oh fucking right. I didn't even expect to get paid.
Speaker 3: For it, even during my mind's playing tricks on hand
Speaker 3: before I knew I wasn't get paid for that one.
Speaker 3: But you know, I had no fucking idea that this
Speaker 3: ship paid. Man, So like, huh yeah, he wait wait
Speaker 3: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you
Speaker 3: mean you're trying to pay me yeah to rap? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I what but not the monetary reward of it.
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of no fuck that a quest.
Speaker 3: It was about the money when we was growing up,
Speaker 3: because we ain't have none, right like that. She was
Speaker 3: about the money, like we we did some ship that
Speaker 3: was strictly for the money before a rap started. All right,
Speaker 3: So when you said that you was gonna pay me
Speaker 3: to rap and I had to do this no more,
Speaker 3: A no brainer.
Speaker 5: So when did when did y'all form Ghetto Boys? How
Speaker 5: did that come about?
Speaker 3: I wasn't there, So the original information was Johnny? So
Speaker 3: why did how did they just? Or I guess asked
Speaker 3: about J Prince? Like what is I've heard a lot
Speaker 3: about the legend of J Prince, but can't I don't
Speaker 3: know anything about him, but I know.
Speaker 5: That it's it's a legend.
Speaker 3: Who is JA what?
Speaker 5: And who is J Prince? And how did he bring
Speaker 5: you into the fold of the Ghetto Boys?
Speaker 3: And in my opinion, Jay is a masterful thinker m hm.
Speaker 3: He's probably up in the top tier of thinkers chess players.
Speaker 3: If you know, like an Einstein type of motherfucker, that's him.
Speaker 3: He has to be, because when you google him, you
Speaker 3: can't find nothing about him. And that's the most amazing
Speaker 3: he's I don't know, I would be more afraid of
Speaker 3: James than Trump. Wow for real, yeah for real, Like
Speaker 3: he's a masterful fucking thing. Yeah, he's a master strategist.
Speaker 3: So how did you guys meet and how he did
Speaker 3: he bring you into? Nah, it was like he heard
Speaker 3: the song and he was like, Hey, we're gonna put
Speaker 3: that guy in this group.
Speaker 5: And that's what it was.
Speaker 3: But that's not that's not an average thing. Like you know,
Speaker 3: I got a group. Hey, I'm like, but you it
Speaker 3: was like I got a group and Ghetto Boys cool,
Speaker 3: You're gone, You're gone, You're in, You're cool.
Speaker 5: My face is in.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: What you remember what record was it of yours that
Speaker 5: he heard that makes the the original?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: Yeah fucked him up, Like, oh hell no, I don't
Speaker 5: want no competition that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So was he the mastermind behind you guys just being
Speaker 3: because when I when I first heard of y'all, I guess.
Speaker 5: When Chuck G.
Speaker 3: Chuck D shouted you guys out on Fear of a
Speaker 3: Black Planet, That's the first time I heard of the
Speaker 3: Ghetto Boys.
Speaker 5: And then I'll say, like.
Speaker 3: Maybe two months later, then suddenly you guys were just
Speaker 3: I heard like I saw more of your press than
Speaker 3: I heard the music because the controversy with the with
Speaker 3: the pm r C and I guess, uh, I forget
Speaker 3: who the head editor?
Speaker 5: Well, no, no, the head editor of Billboard was Ted.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: I forget his name, Like it's is like, no, no,
Speaker 5: he's going, He's gone. But is he dead? Oh?
Speaker 7: You got something?
Speaker 3: I'm just asking Like usually like people don't just step down.
Speaker 3: People don't relinquish that. People that don't just relinquish their power.
Speaker 3: So if Ted, either either Ted is dead or Ted
Speaker 3: is rich.
Speaker 5: I forget.
Speaker 3: I forget his name, but I remember reading his his
Speaker 3: uh editor about the shock of this album, and instantly
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta get this and the album
Speaker 3: that was was gripping on the other level. Okay, they're
Speaker 3: just when we did like three hundred thousand records independently
Speaker 3: on the first one before Rick even picked the ship up.
Speaker 3: So how did Rick even get Uh? He probably heard
Speaker 3: of ship somewhere, you know, Like so it wasn't like
Speaker 3: you guys were looking for me.
Speaker 5: Now, we're not looking for a deal at all.
Speaker 3: But when you make somebody on an offer that they
Speaker 3: can't refuse, you kind of got to make that move.
Speaker 7: You feel Me and were y'all the first like Southern
Speaker 7: group on at the time.
Speaker 5: It was American So Rick had left Death Jam and
Speaker 5: started Deaf.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm gonna go out on the
Speaker 3: limb and say I might have been the first Southern
Speaker 3: act on Death Jam.
Speaker 5: Yeah you were, because who else?
Speaker 3: Because you were before Loot right No no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no no Luther came out on Death Jam South
Speaker 3: Oh you mean yeah, just jam proper.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was Deaf Jam with the with the with
Speaker 5: the turntable. That was super important.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a bucket list playing right there, Like
Speaker 3: to be on death Jam, that was a dream.
Speaker 5: That's a childhood dream.
Speaker 3: To be on Death Jam from Houston, Texas, like not
Speaker 3: like a small little neighborhood in Houston, Texas called South
Speaker 3: Akers And I'm on fucking death Jam.
Speaker 5: That's real supposed to be easy to never ever.
Speaker 3: Take my my travel, you know, my journey for granted, bro,
Speaker 3: Like I'm from right there and I'm sitting here with
Speaker 3: one of my favorite, my favorite drummer.
Speaker 5: I call him what I call you, the human NBC
Speaker 5: you told.
Speaker 3: PC like he doesn't. That's my favorite compliment. That's my
Speaker 3: favorite compliment. He's the human in PC. I used to
Speaker 3: think he got mad. I used to I was like, man,
Speaker 3: he got man. I call him a drum machine. No,
Speaker 3: that that's what that was always my life cold to
Speaker 3: be like a drum to be that, Yeah, you're in
Speaker 3: that pocket, bro, I gotta bit man.
Speaker 5: Y'all give it a one time a quest because he's
Speaker 5: a bad motherfucker. I love that.
Speaker 7: This is the first is a question.
Speaker 5: He actually took a compliment. Everyone hit me with the thing.
Speaker 5: I don't That's all I got. I was like, wait,
Speaker 5: can I take over my show? Please? Go right ahead?
Speaker 5: All right. So when you're.
Speaker 3: When you're most most group situations are you know, usually
Speaker 3: childhood friends that jail with each other and and and
Speaker 3: then become a group. You guys were sort of just similar,
Speaker 3: like it's almost like a boy band almost like like
Speaker 3: this is how the ship happened.
Speaker 5: You knew him and him and me, and we had
Speaker 5: no idea who the fuck we were.
Speaker 3: We know, we didn't know. We just got in the
Speaker 3: vand one day and rolled out somewhere and wrapped. It
Speaker 3: seemed like a super group though, because it's a supergroup.
Speaker 3: So how did you guys? Was it easy to gel
Speaker 3: as a group. I mean, you're strangers and suddenly you're
Speaker 3: gonna enter this this business venture.
Speaker 5: I had no idea that it would turn into a business.
Speaker 3: I thought it was just I thought it was just
Speaker 3: having fun rapping and recording the ship, you know, like
Speaker 3: this was my first time. I had no idea about
Speaker 3: nothing in the music industry, nothing about the music business period.
Speaker 3: So I just wrote my ship and I left. Wow,
Speaker 3: you know, we're not friends, we don't hang out, were
Speaker 3: not cool. I don't know, y'all, So what what made
Speaker 3: here for? So y'all weren't friends?
Speaker 5: Y'all? You just kill We're not friends now?
Speaker 7: Wore no way? But are you family now?
Speaker 3: Like? Is it like that?
Speaker 7: Like you know, don't like them?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and don't say Bill his name too long,
Speaker 3: too too loud. He'll pop his little lass up in here.
Speaker 7: Oh ship.
Speaker 5: I swear.
Speaker 3: I had a crazy I had a crazy uh uh
Speaker 3: Bushwick Bill story where I.
Speaker 5: Didn't realize that he had gotten on stage.
Speaker 3: This one there was it's like ninety seven, ninety eight,
Speaker 3: and I was playing with a very unusual kick drum.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was a twenty eight inch kick drum.
Speaker 5: It was like the part of the size. He was
Speaker 5: standing up in front of him inside my kick drum?
Speaker 1: Whoa what?
Speaker 5: Please tell me?
Speaker 7: Please tell me.
Speaker 3: It was like he was like laying and there was
Speaker 3: a pillow. There was a bunch of pillows, drum. He
Speaker 3: sat on the drum riser, and then he just took
Speaker 3: a nap inside of the kid. I've heard more crazy
Speaker 3: stories about Bill, like that's the one thing we never
Speaker 3: asked MC search for story.
Speaker 5: But hey, I was in the group with him.
Speaker 7: Look like that Martin episode.
Speaker 5: My favorite is face.
Speaker 3: But what was that? What was that?
Speaker 5: Face?
Speaker 3: Nobody loves me, Nobody loves me face. Nobody loves his
Speaker 3: short man. But boy, how a short man can love? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got some real stories, man, But I let him
Speaker 3: tell his own man. So the cover of We Can't
Speaker 3: be Stopped, that's real.
Speaker 5: I was pissed. You can tell it by the I'm looking. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, that's so fucking disrespectful. So tell
Speaker 3: me the call that you got. Obviously, Jay Prince, get
Speaker 3: to the hospital right now.
Speaker 5: No, he didn't say that. Hey don't Jay, don't get
Speaker 5: on the phone. Man Chief called us.
Speaker 7: Uh oh, this is the infamous cover.
Speaker 3: Yees where he's in the hospital, just set it up
Speaker 3: for our listeners. So I guess the legend was that
Speaker 3: he mixed but clear with something that was so clear
Speaker 3: we tried to shoot his eye out. He made the
Speaker 3: song about ever so clear joints. He shot a bushwick.
Speaker 3: Bill shot his eye out, and I can see the look.
Speaker 3: Did I fall marketing? Tell me the story. Let I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let him tell his own sto. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: you were one of the covers, So explain to me
Speaker 3: how that cover came to be. So we had heard
Speaker 3: like at five o'clock in the morning, Bill got shot
Speaker 3: and he got shot in the eye, and I was like, funk,
Speaker 3: it's over. Yeah, like he's fucking dead. But some kind
Speaker 3: of way that little motherfucker was rose up.
Speaker 5: Like I was ship.
Speaker 7: Did he go through or where does it go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way it went, But I know that motherfucker
Speaker 3: ain't dead. He went to the hospital. They were like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: y'all might want to come up here and get this albucol.
Speaker 3: Because Jake so fucking smart he thought Bill was gonna
Speaker 3: die too, so so he wanted y'all to post next
Speaker 3: the body. Oh my god, hey, bro, I can't make
Speaker 3: that up. Man. We thought Bill was gonna die and
Speaker 3: he was gonna take a picture on Bill's deathbed, and
Speaker 3: that she was gonna sell a million records, and he did.
Speaker 5: Fuck it, did it? So?
Speaker 3: I mean, first, you know, if Bill would had his
Speaker 3: eyes closing, ship, I would have been cool with it.
Speaker 5: But but he had a fucking phone on his head,
Speaker 5: the old brick phone.
Speaker 3: That ship was like this big He's sitting up on
Speaker 3: the gurney like you see his legs and shp like
Speaker 3: he was sitting up on that bitch like this.
Speaker 5: You can see.
Speaker 3: Like a big ass man with some little short little
Speaker 3: legs and ship. Right, he's got his fucking band aid off,
Speaker 3: his eye hanging down. His eye is fucking sticking out
Speaker 3: like a Halloween man. And I'm like, shit, you serious?
Speaker 3: You want taking picture with this this fucking Halloween costume?
Speaker 5: Bro? No man.
Speaker 3: And from that point on, Bill has been like a
Speaker 3: Halloween like a walking like a twenty four seven, three
Speaker 3: sixty five fucking Halloween costume. Bro. He became chucky. He
Speaker 3: became a Halloween costume because he was a joker too.
Speaker 3: You're right, and now he's now when's the last time
Speaker 3: you talked to him. He damn that long now, bro decade,
Speaker 3: I don't never talk to Bill no more work.
Speaker 5: I'm good like wow, No, I'm fine, like it's good
Speaker 5: like we left in a great place.
Speaker 3: What about you and Willie Deed, y'all have any We
Speaker 3: just talk sometimes, Okay, okay?
Speaker 5: But will he ain't come out on stage man one time. Man,
Speaker 5: I still kind of feel fucked up about that. When
Speaker 5: was this We had a concert in Houston and ship
Speaker 5: and it was DJ Quick and.
Speaker 3: A few other you know, e Ford like some great
Speaker 3: ship going on, right, And I was a co headliner
Speaker 3: with ice Cube all right. Now, a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: before WILLI came out with Trench, Willie Ambial came out
Speaker 3: with Trench to do this do the mind playing tracks record, right,
Speaker 3: And I wrote the fucking record, So I do this
Speaker 3: ship man, And I'm thinking, Willy gonna come out and
Speaker 3: do the ship on the strip because you know you're
Speaker 3: probably gonna go on to it one of these days.
Speaker 5: And then he didn't go out on my set and
Speaker 5: went out on ice Cube. Shit.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, man, I ain't never
Speaker 3: going towards you no more. We ain't gonna never do
Speaker 3: no more songs.
Speaker 7: No motherfucking none of that a tribute to hip hop
Speaker 7: honors NBA.
Speaker 5: You know I don't believe that, right o? God? Yeah,
Speaker 5: come on, man, it has to happen.
Speaker 7: You know you said something though you wrote all of
Speaker 7: your minds land tricks on you, the.
Speaker 3: Whole song except for Willie's verse. And I did the beat, okay,
Speaker 3: how okay? The the splash, the splash symbol at the
Speaker 3: end of each verse.
Speaker 5: How okay.
Speaker 3: This is only a nerd question that a mirror would ask,
Speaker 3: what was the ideology I have No.
Speaker 5: You knew that was the Yeah, I knew. But here's
Speaker 5: the thing.
Speaker 3: You know, how you run your you program your your
Speaker 3: NBC sixty right, and you gotta do the change up
Speaker 3: in the last two. Yes, And that's that's one of
Speaker 3: my favorite when I'm when I'm hitting a crash symbol.
Speaker 3: That's that's my crash symbol that I always hear. It's
Speaker 3: one of the loudest. It could have been poorly mixed too, though,
Speaker 3: so it probably was. But it you know it, if
Speaker 3: I mixed that record or map, it has made my
Speaker 3: arm coming down with the force of hercules on every
Speaker 3: symbol I've ever hit.
Speaker 5: Is that what you did mind playing tracks on you
Speaker 5: did on the NPC, I did it.
Speaker 3: On the NPC sixty and U and EPs the Sonic Wow,
Speaker 3: EPs Wow.
Speaker 7: Can you not? I'm not. I'm just my first nerd
Speaker 7: out moment. But can you walk us through that that
Speaker 7: beat process just like where it started from?
Speaker 4: And how you a room?
Speaker 7: Now? I mean that song, I mean that particular song,
Speaker 7: that particular song.
Speaker 5: So when.
Speaker 3: Willy left the group after the ice Cube disc the
Speaker 3: ice Cube with No Basiline, Oh yeah, yeah. When ice
Speaker 3: Cube said WILLI d told me to let a whole
Speaker 3: be a hole, that was the end of the Ghetto
Speaker 3: Boys for good.
Speaker 5: That was it. Woow.
Speaker 3: He thought he's bigger than the group.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I don't know that's between y'all to talk about, but
Speaker 3: I know that after that shit happened, it was no
Speaker 3: more will he left wow, because that's what I was
Speaker 3: going out like a soldier record.
Speaker 5: That was next.
Speaker 3: I have no idea, I don't know, but that's what happened.
Speaker 3: I was working want to, I was forced to work
Speaker 3: on solo album, your first album. Oh just the missis
Speaker 3: Scarface's back. Yeah, and this is all in my book too.
Speaker 3: By the way, you're saying you didn't want to make
Speaker 3: that first solo record. I wasn't even trying to be
Speaker 3: no fucking rapper. That shit was too much, It took
Speaker 3: too much time, and it wasn't paying the fucking money.
Speaker 5: The fuck. I want to be a rapper. Form. Just
Speaker 5: give me enough money to buy this so I can
Speaker 5: flip that and do this. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 5: I want to do that that rap shit. Okay, wait,
Speaker 5: let me enter retire one second.
Speaker 3: This also is the ongoing continuation of our discovery that
Speaker 3: all classics and all great moments are done in that
Speaker 3: alpha state. Oh yeah, where if you plan, if you
Speaker 3: plan a great moment or if you plan to make
Speaker 3: a classic, whatever, it never works.
Speaker 5: But when it's just an afterthought, like.
Speaker 3: Whatever, that's what the magic is.
Speaker 5: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: So all this time I'm thinking that that first solo
Speaker 3: record was like this plan for you, like to pull
Speaker 3: a Michael Jackson off the.
Speaker 5: Wall, and not that I can recall.
Speaker 3: Man, I could be wrong, but I if I if
Speaker 3: I if I recall correctly, I was. I was making
Speaker 3: songs for UH for my solo album, and I had
Speaker 3: a song called my mind playing tricks on Me. I
Speaker 3: had three verses, my first two verses, and this year
Speaker 3: Halloween fell on the weekend verse. All right, well some
Speaker 3: kind of way priority Uh had a meeting with James
Speaker 3: and I. That record ended up on the Ghetto Boys record.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was my solo. So I was on
Speaker 3: my solo album. Okay, but it helped us set up
Speaker 3: your solo though, Like, that's that's the that's the biggest
Speaker 3: fucking move that we could have made. You know, it
Speaker 3: set up everybody's solo. If everybody got it, if everybody
Speaker 3: got if everybody coming off the success of a great
Speaker 3: fucking group album, then everybody has the opportunity to break solo.
Speaker 3: I mean it also, well good, it's your talk show,
Speaker 3: no no, no podcast continue.
Speaker 5: I I took.
Speaker 3: And once I tasted the blood, like, I was like
Speaker 3: fuck that. Like I can argue with myself. I can
Speaker 3: be at odds with me by myself. I don't have
Speaker 3: to have three other motherfuckers to argue with. I can
Speaker 3: just go in this motherfucker and fight with me. You know,
Speaker 3: I could deal with my own ego. That's the most
Speaker 3: fun anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like, man ain't right.
Speaker 7: So wait, so since that song is your baby, what
Speaker 7: does it feel like, all these years later to have
Speaker 7: a song that's like like every Halloween it is a time.
Speaker 3: And you know what the greatest part about that is,
Speaker 3: I'm right there in the same light as my cousin
Speaker 3: because his.
Speaker 5: Song's gonna play forever.
Speaker 3: Mind playing tricks, that song is gonna play forever. Like
Speaker 3: all the rest of that ship that I did in
Speaker 3: my life may not play for it made it. That
Speaker 3: shit made end pretty soon, but I know that every time.
Speaker 3: If they don't take away Halloween, I'm good. Yea, So
Speaker 3: how did you tread it? Oh? Wait, I kind of
Speaker 3: want to go back to the first record. What I
Speaker 3: want to know is is that you know, for those
Speaker 3: that aren't steeped and and and and and baptized in
Speaker 3: hip hop culture, you know a lot of the ideas
Speaker 3: of what, especially in the political world, that were against
Speaker 3: rap music at the time. I mean, you guys were
Speaker 3: basically that, you know, the most shocking, the most disgusting, whatever,
Speaker 3: like you could whatever, it's superlative you could use. Was
Speaker 3: it was the plan for that in the studio, like
Speaker 3: We're just going to be the most offensive group of
Speaker 3: all time. I don't, I don't. I don't think you
Speaker 3: could plan that. You know, I think that you look
Speaker 3: at what's happening around you, like, and this was. You know,
Speaker 3: I remember going to Milwaukee and going to Jeffrey Dahmer's
Speaker 3: house and ship where he did that ship.
Speaker 5: At Wait you went there? Why? I mean you you
Speaker 5: hear about the ship?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know a venue you all play too, because
Speaker 3: it was His house was right across the street from
Speaker 3: this big giant Milwaukee venue, only it's like a Masonic
Speaker 3: temple hall.
Speaker 7: Did he performed.
Speaker 5: Dahmer's house? We didn't stop. I've been curious about what
Speaker 5: was on the inside of that apartment. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 5: go in. There wasn't anything.
Speaker 3: I remember passing by that motherfucker stopping and getting scared.
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, the house was empty.
Speaker 5: Everything was. I don't know if that motherfucker was in
Speaker 5: jail yet now he ate.
Speaker 4: Everything in the house. Missing that point, you're missing the
Speaker 4: whole point.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, excuse me. That is Yes, that was a
Speaker 5: great one. You can get one for that.
Speaker 3: So with all of that ship going on, Uh, guys,
Speaker 3: we just kind of rapped about it, you know, but
Speaker 3: you y'all realized y'all were the first to really cross
Speaker 3: that line. Like at that point n w A was
Speaker 3: the was the high mark of offense, and even their
Speaker 3: stuff was more politically offensive, right, not like to the
Speaker 3: level y'all Like that boy said, uh like having sex
Speaker 3: with corpses and ship? Yeah, like what like I think
Speaker 3: that was?
Speaker 5: I would I didn't write that, by the way.
Speaker 3: It would take a little bitty spooky looking motherfucker the
Speaker 3: sat ship like that, But he.
Speaker 5: Didn't write it either.
Speaker 3: Willie wrote that verse was really right that a guy
Speaker 3: named Jukebox wrote that, and Jukebox later went to jail
Speaker 3: for like a murder or something.
Speaker 7: Of course because he was having of course.
Speaker 3: No, I'm nah, it was just it was just one
Speaker 3: of those men. We we really weathered a storm that
Speaker 3: we wasn't supposed to get out of, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, it was a lot of shit that
Speaker 3: went on in those years.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of uh uh uh people getting killed.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of people going to jail. There
Speaker 3: was a lot of people being indicted. There was a
Speaker 3: lot of motherfucking friends falling out and not speaking no more. Like,
Speaker 3: it was a lot of penitentiary chances that went on
Speaker 3: doing that shit during that time.
Speaker 5: Man and we weathered that storm.
Speaker 3: Man, And from from seventeen years old to right now, man,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm.
Speaker 5: Happy, bro, I'm coming up on my thirty and hip
Speaker 5: hop yeah nice and in actual years too.
Speaker 7: I mean, you could you could do that? You could
Speaker 7: you could do that.
Speaker 3: I signed my contract August seventeenth, nineteen eighty seven. No
Speaker 3: eighty eight, I'm lying eighty eight. I was seventeen years
Speaker 3: old and now forty seven. That's amazing, man, Ain't shit
Speaker 3: amazing by being forty seven? Man, you just gotta keep
Speaker 3: waking up. This shit hurts.
Speaker 5: I want to get to the I want to get
Speaker 5: to the diary that was.
Speaker 3: I feel I'm gonna skip skip over the world one,
Speaker 3: but we can get no, no, no, no, go to it.
Speaker 3: No no no, that's talking about I got some cool
Speaker 3: shit that happened there, yea, So let me roll all right?
Speaker 3: Is that you planning based on.
Speaker 5: My uncle playing the base? Man?
Speaker 3: I got one of the coldest uncles at like my
Speaker 3: uncle Eddie, and we're not friends.
Speaker 5: We don't get along at all.
Speaker 4: So can I interrupt here because I'm confused.
Speaker 2: You seem like a super friendly guy who has no friends,
Speaker 2: So why aren't your friends with even your uncle.
Speaker 3: Also, that's say, yo, we should play one, but not
Speaker 3: right now, but that he's right playing now though I'll
Speaker 3: save it for later. Yeah, Like, I'm really cool as fun,
Speaker 3: but I don't got no friends. I don't really want
Speaker 3: no friends.
Speaker 5: What about us? Can we be?
Speaker 4: Can we can quest love?
Speaker 5: Now? That's that's the second time you asked to be
Speaker 5: his friend.
Speaker 7: I knew that before.
Speaker 5: You as actually uh cool, it me and cool, but
Speaker 5: the rest of y'all wasn't really you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get him.
Speaker 3: On chatting with that's so listen, first of all, Mike Dean,
Speaker 3: how did he enter into the to the conversation? Because
Speaker 3: so Mike Dean was an engineer, Uh okay, okay, but
Speaker 3: Mike Dean playing for Selena? Ah wow, Okay, Mike Dean
Speaker 3: was Mike Dean.
Speaker 5: Was a keyboard player of Saxophone player some ship for Selena.
Speaker 3: Okay, so, but but listen though, like Mike Dean is
Speaker 3: a bad motherfuckers he's cold. You ever heard the intro
Speaker 3: to Jesse James. Yes, Mike Dean and Mike Dean a
Speaker 3: bad motherfucker straight up. We would bring ship to the
Speaker 3: studio and start making, you know, making making songs or whatever.
Speaker 3: And Mike Dean would play on that ship. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he's a masterful mixer for those that don't know, I
Speaker 3: mean right now, I mean, Mike Dean's really getting this
Speaker 3: moment in the sun. Kanye as Kanye's Travis Scott. Everything
Speaker 3: he did Panda right, did he do well? He did
Speaker 3: stuff on Designer's record. Okay, Okay, I don't know what
Speaker 3: I mean, it's name it like from two chains to
Speaker 3: I mean, he's popping more now.
Speaker 5: But I didn't realize that he worked on your records first.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask you about the rap a
Speaker 3: Lot production squad. So n O, Joe Beato all, what
Speaker 3: was the deal with those cats? How involvedre you in that?
Speaker 3: You're forgetting me right, I'm saying you. I had you
Speaker 3: in the credit read them fucking credits. I read them,
Speaker 3: trust me. How did What was it like when you
Speaker 3: collaborating with them? I think that you know, Joe has
Speaker 3: his own style and SODA's Beato. You know we forgot
Speaker 3: about tongue tongue. He's fucking awesome too. Like I started
Speaker 3: the production deal, I mean, I started that production movement off,
Speaker 3: you know, what I mean, Like from from I've Seen
Speaker 3: a Man Die to My Mind playing, I did my
Speaker 3: mind playing tricks by my I did my whole first
Speaker 3: solo album by myself.
Speaker 5: I did all of those beats except for maybe like.
Speaker 3: Uh Bornier and I didn't do money in the Power,
Speaker 3: and I didn't do He's Dead.
Speaker 5: That was I think Simon did that. But I did
Speaker 5: the rest of that ship. Okay, all right?
Speaker 3: Listening to uh the ninety six Ghetto Boys the album
Speaker 3: to Death do his part part? Yeah, read the credits.
Speaker 3: I probably did all that ship, but about one and
Speaker 3: two songs too. Man, putting together that production team, just
Speaker 3: everybody collabing and making great music. I think that's how
Speaker 3: you make great music. Yeah, you know, everybody's gotta gotta
Speaker 3: want a jam. You know, everybody gotta have an input.
Speaker 3: It can't be no fucking egos, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like I don't have an ego. Like, let's just let's
Speaker 3: just cham, let's make the best record that we can make,
Speaker 3: and then we'll argue about who did this ship.
Speaker 5: The best win is over with the will let the
Speaker 5: fans aside. I'm jumping around.
Speaker 3: So the diary, what made you take ninety nine left balloons,
Speaker 3: Yes for going down Drugs mixed total six. I love
Speaker 3: that fucking song man.
Speaker 5: The first Oh we all My uncle played the bass
Speaker 5: on that ship.
Speaker 3: So, like I'm telling you, my uncle Eddie is probably
Speaker 3: the best musician that I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 5: And I don't like that motherfucker. Just do not get along?
Speaker 5: Is that him playing based on join everything? Everything? Everything?
Speaker 3: What's his full name so we can look him up,
Speaker 3: Eddie Wilson. He's a bad motherfucker. He bad like Prince though,
Speaker 3: but anything. He can play cheers and jam, but he blind,
Speaker 3: he's bind and he's a fucking asshole, bro, not like
Speaker 3: a blind man.
Speaker 5: Like that's I'm fucked up too.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 5: I don't like that motherfucker. That motherfucker don't like me,
Speaker 5: so believe it at that. Sometimes the best collaborations are tension,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He's fucking awesome, man, He's awesome.
Speaker 5: He's to hear him compliment the same thing.
Speaker 2: Remember that that show This Is Your Life where they
Speaker 2: would bring on different people from your past.
Speaker 4: Yes, like he should be a contestant exactly, just bring
Speaker 4: keep bringing on all the people you hate.
Speaker 5: Sure now will fly you out now we'll bring you out.
Speaker 3: Bro. So did you, I mean, at least with the Diary,
Speaker 3: did you feel as though like that was your that
Speaker 3: let me tell you what happened with the between the
Speaker 3: Diary and the world is yours?
Speaker 5: Okay, so.
Speaker 3: The world is George? Were smoking like regular dirt ass weed.
Speaker 3: I heard the story before when we got to fucking California,
Speaker 3: talk about it.
Speaker 5: Who was smoking? That ship? That has you?
Speaker 3: Like? So that that was that was not going balloons?
Speaker 7: Wow, that's called the chronic that ship.
Speaker 5: That's what that ship was mean. It made you feel different,
Speaker 5: so it made you think different.
Speaker 3: So when you felt different and you it made you
Speaker 3: think and it played different, it was like, Wow, that's
Speaker 3: when ship started jamming.
Speaker 5: I think I think it was the weeds Man. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What question I always had for you with going from
Speaker 3: the Diary to the Untouchable, Like it seemed like your
Speaker 3: production just stepped up level.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Taller bad Man Man, south Side south Side that
Speaker 5: was my record on that. Wow. Yeah. But Mike mixed.
Speaker 3: Mike was he He mixed, and he mixed a lot
Speaker 3: of those albums, and he played on a lot of
Speaker 3: those albums. But the production and the the mixing and
Speaker 3: the mastering of those albums right there for second and nothing. Nah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you could hear it it whatever it was, Like, Wow,
Speaker 3: do you I mean, do you as far as you
Speaker 3: being on everyone's like top ten list and and.
Speaker 5: You know this level of respect that you get, do
Speaker 5: you feel.
Speaker 3: Do you feel valued or like, I mean, I've never
Speaker 3: read about you like getting to beef with other rappers,
Speaker 3: and I'm into the level that it was with during
Speaker 3: that period of the East Coast, West Coast and this
Speaker 3: and that you were sort of like the you were
Speaker 3: Switzerland almost like you were the happy medium. Like, but
Speaker 3: did you feel as though like I should be getting
Speaker 3: more of respect like I pioneered?
Speaker 5: Nah? Man, I'm cool. Man. I like this. I like
Speaker 5: being down here on ground level.
Speaker 3: I like being able to come out to Austin and
Speaker 3: walk back out through the crowd, take a few pictures,
Speaker 3: and take my ass on back to my room. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want a whole bunch of fucking
Speaker 3: people around me. You know, I don't need an entourage.
Speaker 3: I like being down here on ground level with everybody else,
Speaker 3: like treat me like regular people. All Right, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: ask you the cliche question that I hate journalists asking me,
Speaker 3: but because you're such a pioneer of the South, Uh,
Speaker 3: how do you feel now today that Southern culture is
Speaker 3: so ubiquitous now in hip hop where it's now well, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that it's it's the it's the gold standard,
Speaker 3: it's you know what. You know what run DMC's version
Speaker 3: of New York was for hip hop where everyone had
Speaker 3: to follow that template. Now Southern rap, especially with as
Speaker 3: far as Houston is concerned, Like, how do you do
Speaker 3: you feel some sort of way about it now or
Speaker 3: the way that the culture has reinterpret or evolved?
Speaker 5: Is it evolved or has it regressed?
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm asking Let me let me
Speaker 3: let me finish though, Let me finish, because I feel
Speaker 3: like like when when when we first got started, it
Speaker 3: was impossible to break in New York. It was nobody
Speaker 3: in Peelly fucked with us, you know, but Scarfaces back
Speaker 3: was then I got Then I got love? Yeah, then
Speaker 3: I got love. But everything sounds everybody had their own identity,
Speaker 3: though everybody now sounds like one big long a record,
Speaker 3: like everything sounds exactly the Internet. We can probably blame
Speaker 3: the Internet for the inter neutralized undefeated. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: killed in regionalism. You can't tell who's from where. Everyone
Speaker 3: sounds the same.
Speaker 7: It's funny you say about regionalism because literally I was
Speaker 7: talking to a good friend of mine from I'm from DC,
Speaker 7: but we were talking about him, I know, and we
Speaker 7: were talking about your relationship with DC because he was like,
Speaker 7: you know, in light of the anniversary of celebrating of
Speaker 7: Biggi's death, He's like, for DC, dudes, we weren't really
Speaker 7: in that pop versus Biggie thing. For us, it was
Speaker 7: Scarface then number one because he came to d C
Speaker 7: and he performed with go go bands that you still
Speaker 7: do to this day to day. Yeah, but can you
Speaker 7: to speak to that in that relationship, and it goes
Speaker 7: to the regionalism and relationships with different markets like that.
Speaker 3: I like. I like the idea of d C having
Speaker 3: his own identity man like d C never swapped out
Speaker 3: and went nowhere else.
Speaker 5: There was always Go Go you know, you had some
Speaker 5: you have some dope ass rappers out of there, you know.
Speaker 3: But but mainly the music in d C, like Backyard
Speaker 3: can have an r E can have a show in
Speaker 3: d C and sell the fucking place out. They don't
Speaker 3: need no rapper in it. They don't need no big names.
Speaker 3: They are the big name. And the whole fucking play
Speaker 3: is from from wall to wall and singing the song.
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn ship, I'm glad I didn't close.
Speaker 3: Yeah nah, it's d C is like me in d
Speaker 3: C is like Frankie Beverly in New Orleans, like he
Speaker 3: can always go there and get a check, right.
Speaker 7: DC just said it's like bevery Frankie Beverly in d C,
Speaker 7: because you know we claim him too, just like we
Speaker 7: claim y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah he is he is. Yeah, you're sure, right, but
Speaker 5: man like yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 5: no no, you're phelly.
Speaker 7: So why you I was born and raised in DC.
Speaker 7: I got a rep and that's what it is. O.
Speaker 5: Mother, Yeah, I see so, mother. As far as it
Speaker 5: progressing or progressing.
Speaker 3: Just.
Speaker 5: Do you feel some sort of way about I do?
Speaker 5: Or are you indifferent? Now? Like okay, well no, it's
Speaker 5: not my turn turn anymore.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't care about it be in my turn,
Speaker 3: But I still want to hear dope music though.
Speaker 7: All right, what's the last dope new thing you heard?
Speaker 3: And you was like, all right, fucking Kendrick Lamar, love Me,
Speaker 3: Love Me, Like, yeah, Like that's dope to me, man.
Speaker 7: What did you think about that? The soundtrack? Just not
Speaker 7: just to you know, I'm just curious soundtrack have you
Speaker 7: heard that? Since you said Kendrin Lamar, you know, it's
Speaker 7: kind of revolutionary in nature in a way. I mean
Speaker 7: for what he's saying and it being such a Marvel film,
Speaker 7: and you know, some people would feel like that.
Speaker 5: I'm proud of that that film too.
Speaker 3: By the way, I like the Black Panther film and
Speaker 3: I like the performance of it too. Back on on
Speaker 3: the do I feel like fucked up?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: I mean I wish that everybody had their own identity, bro,
Speaker 3: you know, I wish that people would just if if
Speaker 3: see his it went like this, If quest Love did
Speaker 3: your ship, then you knew his production. If Dray did
Speaker 3: your shit, you knew his production because they didn't sound alike.
Speaker 3: If Timberland digit shit, you knew you know, timbling, Oh man,
Speaker 3: that's timbling right there.
Speaker 5: You know what it was?
Speaker 7: Rock wild? Did you know y'all?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And now it's like if Premiere digit shit, you know
Speaker 3: you know right now everything's so not like God Damn
Speaker 3: that gotta be so and so, so and so.
Speaker 5: No that so and so.
Speaker 3: Boys, shit, that sounded like so and so so because
Speaker 3: everybody sound like yeah, you know, and and it focks
Speaker 3: me up because it's no the beat's reality in music
Speaker 3: no more. Ain't nobody got there. They just fucked you know.
Speaker 3: Get you some strings, bro, But at the same time,
Speaker 3: get you an identity, man, because that ship you're doing
Speaker 3: is gonna last all of three or four years at best.
Speaker 3: All right, speak the truth. I do speak the truth.
Speaker 3: You have records that you heard two years ago that
Speaker 3: are irrelevant now and the artist is like, ship.
Speaker 7: Were going right, right, all said designer. I thought about
Speaker 7: it was.
Speaker 5: Funny the beast was pumping. Ain't that something?
Speaker 3: What ll say with that?
Speaker 5: See what it was over.
Speaker 7: Or on?
Speaker 5: Cheesy? No, No, what's something? He said the beasts? Ain't
Speaker 5: that something? Anyway?
Speaker 3: That ship is you know, I want to I want
Speaker 3: to have a career, man, and I want I want
Speaker 3: to build careers man. So one thing I was going
Speaker 3: to ask you, what is the what is the process
Speaker 3: of you putting your albums together? Because I'll go on
Speaker 3: record as saying you are the most consistent rapper in
Speaker 3: terms of your albums, like you are the most consistent
Speaker 3: album making cat like ever, like all your records.
Speaker 5: And I mean straight up like all your records. It's
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a ride.
Speaker 3: You just put it on. You ain't about skipping nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I try to do that. That's intentional. Okay, So what's
Speaker 3: that that's intentional?
Speaker 5: Cue? So what's that process? I don't decide what makes it?
Speaker 3: What doesn't that feel?
Speaker 5: Man? That vibe? You know? I mean, do you work
Speaker 5: on twenty five songs and then say like here's my.
Speaker 3: Final Every every every every every punches is calculated to kill.
Speaker 3: Every bullet is a shot, it's gonna it's there to
Speaker 3: do damage. So if I'm gonna start on the record
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna finish that record, the I can spend
Speaker 3: a week on the record. I have a question about
Speaker 3: your just your your your style of m seeing. I'll
Speaker 3: say that you're probably also one of them. I mean
Speaker 3: not to say that most of the figures in hip
Speaker 3: hop are caricatures, but but curricatures a curricature.
Speaker 5: Who was right?
Speaker 3: But I will say that you, I mean on surface,
Speaker 3: you'll you know again someone that that's not baptized and
Speaker 3: hip hop will just take agander and just say like whatever,
Speaker 3: they're just spinning gangster ship. But you know, you a
Speaker 3: lot of your approach to your your your your song
Speaker 3: structure and your lyrics deal with like you having a conscience,
Speaker 3: you you uh expressing regret, you really having three dimensional
Speaker 3: thoughts of these things. And it's it's almost like therapeutic.
Speaker 3: I know that you've gone on public record about dealing
Speaker 3: with depression and and and that in your life. How
Speaker 3: and especially I guess with the black people, we never
Speaker 3: we were never too vulnerability. Yeah, like we were always
Speaker 3: guarded about the idea of therapy or or that sort
Speaker 3: of thing, and and and dealing with depression. But you're
Speaker 3: going to can you speak on how like is writing?
Speaker 3: Are writing these songs your way of doing that when you're.
Speaker 5: Because you've been mad vulnerable on your stuff. So it's it's.
Speaker 3: You know, we're praising Jay Z right now for for
Speaker 3: four like at the end of his career, but you
Speaker 3: were always want that. I want to give a shout
Speaker 3: out to my teacher that taught me how to write,
Speaker 3: you know, Ms McClusky. She taught me how to write,
Speaker 3: and she she always said that your story had to
Speaker 3: have Uh.
Speaker 5: The beginning.
Speaker 3: Uh was it a climax?
Speaker 5: You know the topic?
Speaker 3: It was a piece of statement, She'll kill me if
Speaker 3: I didn't know this ship. It was.
Speaker 5: She listened, She's dead Like he didn't either rich or
Speaker 5: she did?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was like in the third or fourth grade.
Speaker 3: But it had to have a a beginning, a body
Speaker 3: of climax, and an ending. So that's how I wanted
Speaker 3: to always address, you know, a step to my right,
Speaker 3: And that's how I wanted to do my right.
Speaker 5: And I always wanted to write about something.
Speaker 3: I always wanted you to feel that shit and oh
Speaker 3: my god, and then I always wanted to end it right.
Speaker 3: But most of them sees like Biggie himself will say
Speaker 3: that a lot of his narrative was based on what
Speaker 3: his friend said. Okay, well it didn't happen to me,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna tell a story about you know what,
Speaker 3: what my friends talk about.
Speaker 5: And I put in the story for him. But you're like,
Speaker 5: I believes that all of your narrative was I was
Speaker 5: there in that motherfucking room. Huh yeah, but what is
Speaker 5: it true?
Speaker 7: Is that true? I? And maybe because sometimes you you
Speaker 7: have to look at it like art.
Speaker 5: So I just figured, don't recall. Yeah, you can't claim
Speaker 5: all the stuff that he's Let's just say that I
Speaker 5: have witnessed a lot of ship in my time of dying.
Speaker 5: How do you process that without getting numb?
Speaker 3: Because that's it's not normal to see, like, it's not
Speaker 3: normal to see that much tragedy occur. I'm numb to
Speaker 3: the point until I only feel fucked up when something
Speaker 3: bad happens to kids now, I mean like babies and ship,
Speaker 3: Like when when old people dying ship, I don't even
Speaker 3: give a fuck no more. If old people died, then
Speaker 3: they made it like I'm talking about over fucking you mean, yeah, oh.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just playing. I'm not serious. I'm not serious.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, black, if you're old as fuck man and
Speaker 3: you're a mean bastard, then fuck you goodbye.
Speaker 5: I can't wait for you to die.
Speaker 3: You why are you looking at me?
Speaker 4: I mean I feel the same way as somebody you
Speaker 4: were looking at me like I'm mad.
Speaker 3: Well, you've always been very open about your struggle with
Speaker 3: like depression and like bipolar disorder. How do you cope
Speaker 3: with that?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: Shit, I know how to get in the box, I
Speaker 3: know how to get out the way. Man, go in
Speaker 3: my room, you know, go to my I can stay
Speaker 3: in the house for weeks.
Speaker 5: Man, you stay.
Speaker 7: Do you think we're in a new era with mental health?
Speaker 7: We can really have these conversations because I feel like
Speaker 7: now like we weren't having these like ten to fifteen
Speaker 7: years ago, we weren't talking about bipolar. It was crazy
Speaker 7: Uncle did so, we weren't really dominating.
Speaker 5: And they gave that shit a name, and they gave
Speaker 5: it some dope.
Speaker 7: Too different, all kinds of guess sir, to.
Speaker 5: Prescribe you some drugs.
Speaker 7: Fucking it's true, but it is something to it. Correct.
Speaker 5: There's nothing to it.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: Either you want to fucking die or you don't like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You're fucking happier, you're sad?
Speaker 5: Bro. Have you gone to therapy? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did two years in the fucking hospital when I
Speaker 3: was a kid. You know, just back and forth. You
Speaker 3: get to the level four and then they let you
Speaker 3: out and then you back down at the fucking uh
Speaker 3: pre pre level one or some ship you know that
Speaker 3: ain't ship. Can't nobody make you feel don't feel know
Speaker 3: they had uh I had meloyal and lithium.
Speaker 7: See, I know something about giving young kids back in
Speaker 7: the days lithium.
Speaker 3: And but but the thing is anything for me to
Speaker 3: write you a prescription. Man, I'm down all this motherfucker's crazy.
Speaker 3: Let's give him some dope. And I don't think that's
Speaker 3: the best I don't think that's the best uh antidote
Speaker 3: for that. I don't think that's the best fix, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, I think that a good
Speaker 3: ass ass whooping will straightened all of that ship.
Speaker 5: I expected.
Speaker 7: I thought you was going to say, like a lifestyle change,
Speaker 7: like you got a.
Speaker 5: Kid that time out, man.
Speaker 3: And if your kid is is like, uh, your kid
Speaker 3: has artistm then I understand, but don't let them dope
Speaker 3: them up.
Speaker 5: But and if your kid is like like my uncle.
Speaker 3: I got an uncle, right, and they don't give him
Speaker 3: no medicine and he's the coolest fuck laughing.
Speaker 7: Don't look over here.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I don't laugh you man.
Speaker 5: That fucking makes me mad.
Speaker 3: Bro, I don't want to make you bad.
Speaker 7: But when you said I was trying to understand what
Speaker 7: you said when you got the BB.
Speaker 3: But you just need a fucking ass whipping man, Like
Speaker 3: if you're fucking sucking up in school, man.
Speaker 5: Kicked that kid in his ass. They took corporal punishment
Speaker 5: out of school, so you fucked your kids up.
Speaker 7: Now, see, we just had this whole conversation where Bazzario
Speaker 7: Dawson about beating your kids and seeing.
Speaker 3: That his mother fucking ass. Listen, look at me, look
Speaker 3: at me, do it. I got my ass beat.
Speaker 5: Kid.
Speaker 7: No, don't do that.
Speaker 3: You look at the average sixteen year old now, and
Speaker 3: he's way worse than I ever will. Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: bad as fuck, but I never told my mom to
Speaker 3: fuck off.
Speaker 7: How about that?
Speaker 5: I never I never fought my dad.
Speaker 7: How about that?
Speaker 5: Calm down.
Speaker 3: I never crush my grandma out, Like, definitely, connect man,
Speaker 3: you got to take that fucking board.
Speaker 7: But I also been communication opinions.
Speaker 5: Now, okay, I'm the guy. Why you why do you
Speaker 5: give me the side out before I give the opinion?
Speaker 7: Like because you got beatens? But go ahead, I know
Speaker 7: you got the whooping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all got.
Speaker 5: I was ready would be a great guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's also a downside to that as well,
Speaker 3: you know, don side to getting your ass whooped.
Speaker 5: I mean, I did the right thing, but I also
Speaker 5: had a very strange relationship with my dad. You know,
Speaker 5: so he was trying to take something out on you.
Speaker 5: You should let your mama whoop your.
Speaker 3: Like back then, like back then in the seventies and
Speaker 3: the eighties when we were growing up. You grew up
Speaker 3: in the seventies, Yes, seventies, al right, cool, So back
Speaker 3: then it was like our dad had like some real
Speaker 3: pressure that was undermand If it wasn't, it was like
Speaker 3: Bill's mama tripping.
Speaker 5: I'm a be this nigga asked me. That's how you're right,
Speaker 5: beat your motherfucking ass.
Speaker 3: As soon as I get home and hang up, you
Speaker 3: can't beep him call him back because he ain't got
Speaker 3: no self.
Speaker 5: It's like some different ship, like you gotta.
Speaker 3: Wait on the right and you don't even know that
Speaker 3: gonna come. You hear the door closing, ship and they
Speaker 3: talking and in the room and ship.
Speaker 5: Go to sleep.
Speaker 3: You're like, pretty god, you're get in the bathtub and
Speaker 3: ship as soon as you walking out that bath to
Speaker 3: hit his motherfucker come wow, right, you're laughing. But that
Speaker 3: that was basically like, I know, put that ass whopping
Speaker 3: and listen, man, the ass whooping.
Speaker 5: Help man.
Speaker 3: And now that I'm older and I realize how important
Speaker 3: those ass whoopings were I'm cool with it, and I
Speaker 3: know that. Can't nobody make me feel how I don't.
Speaker 3: If I'm not happy, then fucking I'm not happy. Who
Speaker 3: the mean ship? Get out my fucking room. Mom not
Speaker 3: knows words, but I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't. So no more drug prescriptions for
Speaker 5: no more lithium at the age except.
Speaker 2: And this episode of Quest Love Supreme is brought to
Speaker 2: you by ass Whoopings.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we've got a couple of episodes.
Speaker 3: We had a couple of.
Speaker 5: Anyway, get there. You got half a jam, that's all
Speaker 5: fun take man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yo, all right, so I got some like rap
Speaker 3: nerd rap up questions. Yes, what happened to too Low,
Speaker 3: funky little nigga?
Speaker 5: The fucking system got him?
Speaker 3: Oh really?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think that he would introduced to a to a
Speaker 3: lot of grown people ship at such an early age.
Speaker 3: Until the ship that he thought that he could get
Speaker 3: away with, he wasn't smart enough to, you know, get
Speaker 3: away with You know, we were smart enough to get
Speaker 3: away with that shit because we were grown.
Speaker 5: But you can't be fucking.
Speaker 3: Fourteen years old and smoking, eating, uh, stealing police cars
Speaker 3: and go to jail like shit. Okay, to too Much Trouble.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of twos. That's a lot of twos.
Speaker 3: I think one of the brothers in Too Much Trouble passed.
Speaker 3: I don't know what Drunk is doing right now.
Speaker 5: I do know that.
Speaker 3: Uh, what's the little dude's name? Yeah, he's a maintenance
Speaker 3: man now, but he was a maintenance man choice.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I haven't seen her in a long
Speaker 5: ass time. I mean.
Speaker 3: We didn't. We spoke on it briefly. How did you
Speaker 3: get in touch or how did you bring Devin the dude?
Speaker 3: What was y'all's history, Like Devin dude in the Odd Squad?
Speaker 3: So Devin So the Ods Squad had an album on
Speaker 3: Rap a Lot, Fat Enough Everybody, Fat Enough Everybody, and
Speaker 3: that was the best fucking album I had ever heard,
Speaker 3: and I don't think that it did what they wanted
Speaker 3: it to do.
Speaker 5: So the Odd Squad was kind of on the back burner.
Speaker 3: I took Devin out of the Odd Squad and put
Speaker 3: him in Face Mob, remember the group I had, Face Mob.
Speaker 3: I produced an album on Face Mob and then that
Speaker 3: did great, and we doubled back and I wanted to
Speaker 3: do a solo album on Devin. I did Devon's first
Speaker 3: sold alb you know that you did. Yeah, I did
Speaker 3: not know that.
Speaker 5: I did that album and it was it was Devon
Speaker 5: and the name of the album was.
Speaker 3: But they started. Yeah, y'all, I fucking pioneered that whole
Speaker 3: picture in the bathroom booble and and all that shit
Speaker 3: we did. We even did a commercial, bro. If you
Speaker 3: get a chance to look up the fucking commercial.
Speaker 5: It is the.
Speaker 3: Funniest ship in the world of him in the bathroom. Yes,
Speaker 3: Lord is Ellie Jackson. Yeah, it's an actual video of
Speaker 3: him getting out of the truck and it's just funny
Speaker 3: as hell.
Speaker 5: That was dope, man.
Speaker 3: We we we sat down and we did an album
Speaker 3: on Devin the Dude, and the rest was history. He's
Speaker 3: the funniest kid I know.
Speaker 7: Like, he's funny as Funds.
Speaker 5: Still is great man, and he smokes so much weed.
Speaker 7: That's awesome. And he's still productive. I I herald people
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 5: Look at Steve picture of productivity of it.
Speaker 3: For sure. I like him. I had a question about
Speaker 3: Lord j. He speaks on it. It's on the intro
Speaker 3: of I think it's Emeritus the Mayor's album. He speaks
Speaker 3: on the Little Troy situation. What exactly is that?
Speaker 5: I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: You know, me and Troy record sound our differences? Man, Okay,
Speaker 3: he said some things about me that weren't true, and
Speaker 3: you know he had to fix that. So you know,
Speaker 3: me and Troy cool? Y'all good?
Speaker 5: Now? Yeah? We all right?
Speaker 3: Okay, word up.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know what him and Jay's relationship
Speaker 5: is with me and Troy? All right? Okay, yop.
Speaker 7: What's it required in the twenty eighteen to get a
Speaker 7: scarface feature?
Speaker 5: I don't feel like it really. The last record I
Speaker 5: heard joint, well, the up front.
Speaker 3: In terms of newcasts, you on the Freddy Gibbs record,
Speaker 3: the uh Freddy Gibson mad Lip Joint.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was on that one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, cal you did a cal And record?
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, but now I'm tired, man.
Speaker 7: So whoever got that got in this is a wrap?
Speaker 5: Yeah? And then uh fucking thought, wait hold on, he said.
Speaker 5: He said a lot of people retired that day. Man, wait,
Speaker 5: wait all right.
Speaker 3: So to told me when I told him I was
Speaker 3: coming down, he said, ask no, sir, what happened in
Speaker 3: the studio? He said, you walked away like left, he said,
Speaker 3: and quote he said, Brad come on.
Speaker 5: He grabbed his sons, like get out of here. Like
Speaker 5: he just walked out the studio.
Speaker 3: I heard his new ship.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh my god, which one to join us?
Speaker 3: All of the streams of thought, Oh my god. I'm
Speaker 3: purposely not letting people know what's happened with the roots.
Speaker 3: But a lot of things, a lot of things are
Speaker 3: about to happen in twenty eighteen. Boy, But whatever he
Speaker 3: heard just made him walk out.
Speaker 7: But you was supposed to bless it. He supposed blessing,
Speaker 7: but supposed blessed.
Speaker 5: He was just what he does. One of you're one
Speaker 5: of his heroes. He's my hero, but you're his hero. Like, no, no,
Speaker 5: he's my hero.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll just sit here all day and say you're
Speaker 3: cool with that, But I'm not going to go in
Speaker 3: there fucking with that, going there fucking with him. And
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm warning every rapper no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: No, because the thing is is that what isolated, this
Speaker 5: is what isolated his first twenty years. We're trying to
Speaker 5: we're trying to.
Speaker 3: I'm probably the only one that kind of like was
Speaker 3: scared of that ten minute freestyle because I was like, no, man,
Speaker 3: because then everybody going there, like, wasn't I wouldn't give
Speaker 3: them they were doing that? Was that was their excuse,
Speaker 3: like that man said, because like because Jay kind of said.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's scary, you're scared.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's one thing.
Speaker 3: It's one thing, like the whole I mean, first of all,
Speaker 3: na Is ruined everything with that, so that that line
Speaker 3: alone made people paranoid about getting killed on their own ship.
Speaker 3: And it's like the only time you're really going to
Speaker 3: stand next to someone is if they can do something
Speaker 3: for you, as far as help you raise your profile,
Speaker 3: if you get if you get like out run by
Speaker 3: somebody that has nobody or nobody, don't really do nothing
Speaker 3: for you. But and even though he's every rapper's favorite rappers,
Speaker 3: technically like he's in every man nobody category.
Speaker 5: And it's like I can't afford to take an L
Speaker 5: from someone that.
Speaker 7: I'm more famous, more famous than right.
Speaker 5: It ain't even about the L with me. It's like, no,
Speaker 5: but he wants he wants to play and reindeer games.
Speaker 3: And it's like a lot of the times cats will
Speaker 3: just say, like, I mean, the reason why it's a big.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like here's the thing, you know, how
Speaker 5: you got it.
Speaker 3: The motherfucker's the champ and then you got the number
Speaker 3: one contender and the tamp don't want to fight him.
Speaker 5: That's what to reach.
Speaker 3: That's what he faced with right now because the motherfucker
Speaker 3: that's on top, whoever he is, whoever he may be.
Speaker 7: Want to get a ring, want to king the situation.
Speaker 3: What that boy said about that bulling side, the China
Speaker 3: China bulling China shop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's I want I want to be I
Speaker 5: want him to play rain there game.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna happen, and it's not on him,
Speaker 3: it's on I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna do a record with him. Oh god, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do a record with him. Yeah, for sure. He I
Speaker 5: want that, I want definitely all right.
Speaker 7: Oh damn, I should have take that send so.
Speaker 5: He can make sure we're taping an episode right now. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm definitely.
Speaker 3: He's so fucking dope man, until you know, well, he
Speaker 3: appreciates that because you're definitely one of his his rhyming heroes.
Speaker 3: He's one of he is my rhyming hero. Is it
Speaker 3: true that you and Sleepy Brown? At one point we're
Speaker 3: gonna do a blues record.
Speaker 5: Damn, wow ship. I don't know, but does I like
Speaker 5: to How did you hear about that room?
Speaker 3: It was if I read it somewhere. I can't remember,
Speaker 3: but I remember. I think maybe it was an interview.
Speaker 3: I think maybe it was a sleepy interview something. But
Speaker 3: he bentioned something about you and him. You know who
Speaker 3: sleepy daddy is? Oh yeah, Jimmy Brown from Brick from
Speaker 3: Brick right, yeah, yeah, dope right, his daddy's so dope. Man, Like,
Speaker 3: so Brick was my he wrote like like three is
Speaker 3: my hero and I met them on the Time Joined
Speaker 3: the Cruise.
Speaker 5: Man, and.
Speaker 7: Damn, I'm sorry, I'm black.
Speaker 5: If you see it was.
Speaker 3: Hey be ill Yeah, okay, wait man, that you're gonna
Speaker 3: enjoy that ship, bro, you should. So Brick was on
Speaker 3: the tom Joining the Cruise Show, not the Tom Join
Speaker 3: the Cruise Show.
Speaker 5: The Cruise Fantastic Boys. He was one of the fantastic voices.
Speaker 3: Man. If I tell you that they jam like a month,
Speaker 3: I gotta see it. No, it's like I have a
Speaker 3: day job, Like I can't go on cruises the time.
Speaker 3: Joining the Cruise is a party that lasts from six
Speaker 3: in the morning to six in the morning to six
Speaker 3: in the morning to six in the morning for seven
Speaker 3: fucking days for.
Speaker 7: All the white people. Time join is very popular. Black
Speaker 7: radio personality was very rich and been doing radio for
Speaker 7: about thirty years. And does this cruise and all the
Speaker 7: black people know about it.
Speaker 3: And when.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 3: Sh when when you get off that cruise is when
Speaker 3: your vacation starts. Because she fucking whipped it's crazy.
Speaker 5: Du well you know that.
Speaker 3: Who are you? Who? Do you have any like buddies
Speaker 3: that you golf with? Now I read that you're into
Speaker 3: like golfing pretty heavy, man.
Speaker 5: I played.
Speaker 3: I used to play golf a lot with a famous
Speaker 3: NBA player man that is no longer with us with
Speaker 3: us man, and uh much love to Moses Malone. Moses
Speaker 3: Malone was a bad motherfucker. He couldn't golf work the ship,
Speaker 3: but he was.
Speaker 5: I played with.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, Johnny Gill got a hell of a golf game, man,
Speaker 3: fucking black sheep, uh.
Speaker 5: Mean ass golf game. Arian Foster got a decent golf game. Ship.
Speaker 3: I know I'm playing so dope sache the entertainer garbage,
Speaker 3: all the clothes, none of the game. Joe Tory trash can.
Speaker 5: Nah.
Speaker 3: These them my partners man, they got a pretty decent game.
Speaker 3: Who else do I play golf with?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I played golf with a lot of old men. Oh
Speaker 3: you know who you know who can play the funk
Speaker 3: out of some golf Clyde Drexler bro.
Speaker 5: I can believe that. Yeah, yeah, don't funk with Clyde.
Speaker 3: If you see Clyde on the golf course, don't even
Speaker 3: don't even ask that mother fucking for a picture.
Speaker 5: Just walk the other way.
Speaker 7: You drink what you do when you go. You got
Speaker 7: like a whole because I know some people like serious.
Speaker 7: You just you don't even have a cocktail.
Speaker 5: You know, I want to bet gambling. Don't fuck with me.
Speaker 5: Don't talk. If you're gonna talk and play music, get
Speaker 5: in your own card. Don't funk with me.
Speaker 7: I want to go golfing.
Speaker 3: What the gulls want to ask you about your relationship
Speaker 3: with you? GK You did the Candy record on the
Speaker 3: album Dude, I love that song.
Speaker 5: I did that record?
Speaker 3: Is that you playing guitar on that boom boom boom
Speaker 3: boom boom boom boom that's actually a keyboard what boom
Speaker 3: boom boom boom and play that ship?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 3: Oh and that's that's that sample is from the Newness
Speaker 3: Is Gone Eddie Eddie Hendrick. Yeah, I didn't know that
Speaker 3: it was as samble, but you see how fucking manipulated
Speaker 3: flick flipped.
Speaker 5: It and mansked and made it dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that record. Man, have you? Are you
Speaker 3: and Bunny y'all still like whatever?
Speaker 5: Y'allo?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not working right now. He's been calling me
Speaker 3: about doing a record. But like I said, I'm retired, man,
Speaker 3: I am read No, I was retired from rapple out
Speaker 3: after emeritis.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, Michael makes sense.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was the wink.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to translate to our radio audience. There was
Speaker 5: a wink in there somewhere. It's like to retire and
Speaker 5: and and still hold the position like it's scar facy mirror,
Speaker 5: just like how would How was j Prince when you
Speaker 5: did the one record when you did.
Speaker 3: To Fix on Death Jam? How did he take that?
Speaker 5: How did that happened? I wasn't signed a rapper up,
Speaker 5: oh so I was. I was free to go.
Speaker 3: And what made you come back?
Speaker 5: Business decision? No I did.
Speaker 3: I did an album and that album was successful, and
Speaker 3: then I did another one and that album was successful too, So.
Speaker 5: That was that. Now I'm enjoying my independence. I love
Speaker 5: being I love being a partner with myself.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have what was what was the How serious
Speaker 3: was the def Jam South and you being the president
Speaker 3: of the label?
Speaker 5: Like, how serious was it?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: Every time I saw you were in business mode, So
Speaker 5: I I had I had a hell of a staff man.
Speaker 5: I didn't even have to do ship.
Speaker 3: But uh, but mastermind, like, the best way to spend
Speaker 3: this money, you know, the best way to roll some
Speaker 3: ship out, the best way to.
Speaker 5: What was it? To not spend a lot of money
Speaker 5: doing ship? So you signed luted to Depth Jam?
Speaker 3: Correct? I did?
Speaker 5: What was it about him that you saw that? Hands?
Speaker 5: Hands off? He did it.
Speaker 3: He was already there, and that was a great way
Speaker 3: to springboard what I was trying to do. You know,
Speaker 3: he was already I think he was thirty forty thousand
Speaker 3: records already.
Speaker 5: The first was it one hundred? Yeah?
Speaker 3: The Rabbit Nah? That was well, yeah, that was the first,
Speaker 3: but the first album it was incog negro And that's
Speaker 3: why he called the Depth Jam back for the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was shooting the World War two, a World War
Speaker 3: three video with Swiss and yeah, and we was way
Speaker 3: out somewhere. I don't know, we were in Long Island
Speaker 3: or something. We was way out, way out, and Shaka
Speaker 3: was saying, yeah, we get ready to go to meet
Speaker 3: with this label so and so so on, and so
Speaker 3: I can't say, man, but I was like, man, before
Speaker 3: you sign, man, please come see me bro. And we
Speaker 3: talked and I relayed, you know, and conveyed to the
Speaker 3: powers that beat it, that's what I wanted to do first,
Speaker 3: and they made that happen. So the rest from there
Speaker 3: is history. So Ludi is a star.
Speaker 7: Was he kind of like the perfect artist since he
Speaker 7: came from radio and he'd already had the other record,
Speaker 7: Like you.
Speaker 5: Gotta be a strategist to think like this, but somebody
Speaker 5: was on the same page, you know. Yeah, but I
Speaker 5: love Luda man.
Speaker 3: He did his thing, and you know, it put me
Speaker 3: in a different light in people's eyes, Like I'm not
Speaker 3: only can I rap or make beats and ship, but
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a masterfucking planner too.
Speaker 5: I got a bucket list, wrap up questions, but.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I got oh rap at question,
Speaker 3: big mic, Where's what's still him?
Speaker 5: I haven't seen Mike Man.
Speaker 3: Uh. He was probably the dopest rapper on rap a
Speaker 3: Out in my opinion, or yeah, I think he was
Speaker 3: put him over you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he was dope man. Did you his
Speaker 5: first Yeah?
Speaker 3: Something serious?
Speaker 5: I had that record? But you know who was singing
Speaker 5: fly holes and Pimp? Yeah? You know who song?
Speaker 3: Looked me in my eyes? Look on my song? Looked
Speaker 3: me in my eyes?
Speaker 5: Who was Pimp?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah? Man, Pim was called the spot. He really
Speaker 5: was big. Mic was dope man to me. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: had a voice. So when he came into Ghetto Boys
Speaker 5: for the I think it was the Death was it
Speaker 5: to Death?
Speaker 3: To his part album? Was y'all? Y'all still cool at
Speaker 3: that point? Like did you welcome him in? Like being
Speaker 3: on that record? Is another stranger in the group, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's another stranger in the group. Man. Actually we were friends.
Speaker 3: He was in the Convicts first and you know three
Speaker 3: two three two it's dead.
Speaker 5: When did he pass?
Speaker 3: I won't say about a year ago. Man shot him
Speaker 3: in the back of the head ship. Yeah, his friend.
Speaker 3: He was walking out of the damn store and dude
Speaker 3: knocked my part in the head off. Man.
Speaker 5: Man. I then revel jenj Man.
Speaker 3: I'm talking on a long ass time. I think you
Speaker 3: might be shooting movies or something though, Okay, speaking.
Speaker 5: Of which you're good. Yeah, can we get Judge. It's
Speaker 5: like a double gun jump in a b ill. Feel
Speaker 5: free to jump in, Okay, just like random names like
Speaker 5: my mother. Yeah, I did a record with her back
Speaker 5: in n Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, Mike Judge, how did that relationship Mike Judge
Speaker 3: the Ghetto Boys fan believe it or.
Speaker 5: Not, I believe it or not. It was the first yeah,
Speaker 5: all through offic space, huge Ghetto Boys fan man.
Speaker 3: So we kind of met and hung out and I
Speaker 3: got a partner of the Theocracyocracy as upgrade two days,
Speaker 3: double dose in my Pamper. That's a funny, dude. Did
Speaker 3: you ever think that that film would be so relevant
Speaker 3: right now? It was made ten years old, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: for him, like making Bamboozo for me? No, yeah, like
Speaker 3: making Bamboozo back then, I was like, Spike's a little crazy.
Speaker 3: But now it's like Mike was right.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Have any of you have anyview, seen or heard
Speaker 5: of Idiocracy? It was right here? How can you not
Speaker 5: know about?
Speaker 3: Idiot takes place in the not so distant future and
Speaker 3: it's about now a wrestler becomes president.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm close enough. Yeah, it's sort of the same thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, So before we wrap the wrestler, before we wrap up,
Speaker 3: I just want to know, Uh, you've made so many
Speaker 3: appearances on everyone's what is your?
Speaker 5: What is your? In your opinion? Your your your top three?
Speaker 3: Cameos, well not cameos, even performance, but just good experiences
Speaker 3: of making records.
Speaker 5: Was it Park?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? That was That was a bump.
Speaker 3: That was a fucking blast because you know, if you
Speaker 3: know too well, did you make Smile wild?
Speaker 5: All right? So he was.
Speaker 3: He was a damn fool in any setting, you know,
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck. He was at a funeral on wedding. Well,
Speaker 3: he was a damn nut. So we got a chance
Speaker 3: to record Smile in l A at Larby, I believe.
Speaker 5: So you went out there.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was in l A recording the Untouchable album, okay,
Speaker 3: and he came in a hummer. I was living at
Speaker 3: the oak Wood in Burbank. Anybody from California you know
Speaker 3: what that is, Barham?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: I heard we were and then this is the first time,
Speaker 3: like I said, we were smoking that ship and I
Speaker 3: heard somebody on the loudspeaker say, Brad.
Speaker 5: Jordan, we know you're in there. Come out with your
Speaker 5: hands up.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, I'm high. Motherfucking blew my high.
Speaker 3: Like shit, my cousin we sitting in the house scared
Speaker 3: and shitting my cousin. Pete got me and say, man,
Speaker 3: that's pot we get dressed. Go downstairs, man, get my
Speaker 3: manager and ship and Pop was like, yeah, let's go
Speaker 3: to the studio make a song. I'm like, I'm cool
Speaker 3: with that. Say come on, get in. I'm like, now, sir, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna ride nowhere with Tupac record.
Speaker 5: Ever. For one, he didn't have a driver's license. For two,
Speaker 5: I knew for a fact that.
Speaker 3: He couldn't drive all right. So we followed him in
Speaker 3: the In the van he had a black Hummer. Let
Speaker 3: me tricked out her old school hummer, the old hum bees,
Speaker 3: and this is him.
Speaker 5: He's driving. Oh god. And if I'm not mistaken, he
Speaker 5: was by himself too, I think.
Speaker 3: So we went in there. Man, they laid it out.
Speaker 3: They had the all the he went and got all
Speaker 3: soul food and Henderson and shit. And now he I
Speaker 3: mean he really laid that shit out nice man, and
Speaker 3: we did the song, the Smile song. I laid a
Speaker 3: verse on and I left h and a couple of
Speaker 3: days later he came to the studio to play me
Speaker 3: the Macavelly record, and then after I listened to it,
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, this is great. And he was like,
Speaker 3: come on, man, let's go and hit the Hollywood. They
Speaker 3: had what was that shit called the Hollywood something that
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but it was like a club. And
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I gotta finish, man, I gotta
Speaker 3: find a single park I can't.
Speaker 5: Man. Man, that man got mad. That's fucking me.
Speaker 3: He said, Man, you be sitting in here all motherfucking
Speaker 3: day long, man, trying to find a single.
Speaker 5: Man Like, that's stupid. Man, you're wasting your fucking time. Man.
Speaker 3: Just just just write a record, man, and and and
Speaker 3: get across to the bitches without offending them. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But he was right though. And the last word that
Speaker 5: you say, that's gonna be the name of the song.
Speaker 5: But that's how came to be.
Speaker 3: Well that's what. Yeah, that's how that's how I came
Speaker 3: to be. Because I don't spend a whole lot of
Speaker 3: time in the studio no more. I spend a whole
Speaker 3: lot of time, you know, making the album better, making
Speaker 3: the song better.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I don't waste my time trying to write a single
Speaker 3: no more, because I know that that ship is not
Speaker 3: gonna play no way. I'm just gonna jam. I think
Speaker 3: my ride coming all right, so can you give us
Speaker 3: a second one? Like what was Tupac was wanting? Okay,
Speaker 3: I think that this song that I did with I
Speaker 3: think that the guess whose back song was big for
Speaker 3: me too. I let me tell you why. Because I
Speaker 3: called Jay and I asked him to do a record
Speaker 3: with me, and they said, meet me at Baseline line.
Speaker 5: Come on. So we're playing the music that you know.
Speaker 3: Guru was playing tracks and jay Z he sat back
Speaker 3: in the corner and he listened to it, and so
Speaker 3: the next one and then the bak I said, and
Speaker 3: he be looking at you like, oh, like I better
Speaker 3: kill you. And then he went to the studio and
Speaker 3: he went in bocalboo and he took the ship right
Speaker 3: and he left. Let me stuck at the board. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting at the boy trying to write this ship and
Speaker 3: ended up getting it done and Kanye got on the record.
Speaker 3: But that was a Kanye beat believing it or not
Speaker 3: to guess who was back? That was Kanye. Kanye did
Speaker 3: the mast majority of the Fixed album too. If anybody
Speaker 3: reads credit, that was Kanye West.
Speaker 7: On that he did This can't be life too rate,
Speaker 7: because I was like that, this can't be life.
Speaker 5: He did that record too.
Speaker 7: Was that in real time? Your verse? In real time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was walking and I was getting out of
Speaker 3: the car service and that shit happened, like, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's my buddy. Son got a hold to some hairin
Speaker 3: that his grandfather had in the car, and I don't
Speaker 3: know if he drunk it or.
Speaker 5: Swallowed in some kind of way, but that shit fucked
Speaker 5: me up pretty bad.
Speaker 3: And I said, I remember saying counting our blessings because
Speaker 3: Brad's too well, Brad, it's twenty now, damn Yeah, I
Speaker 3: know that shit flew, didn't it eighteen?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brad just turned twenty on the fifth, so yeah,
Speaker 5: damn deep right. And the third one, man, I can't
Speaker 5: really remember a great time in the studio. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I saw I was.
Speaker 3: I went to the studio with Chris Brown and Dave Chappelle,
Speaker 3: and most death was in that motherfucker Wow.
Speaker 5: Wait, that's the.
Speaker 3: That's the oddest I ever heard. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 3: before the Chapelle Show too.
Speaker 7: What'd you doing the record?
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck I was doing.
Speaker 3: Were you and Cuban the studio together when y'all did
Speaker 3: the Hand of the Dead Body record?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 3: But I know that Cube has to leave the studio,
Speaker 3: like he'll take the beat with him, okay, and come
Speaker 3: back to the next day and lay it. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3: I don't think he was a spontaneous writer at that time.
Speaker 3: I did a lot of records, but I was cue.
Speaker 3: That's one of my phase. Man, I love Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: my That's one of my phase.
Speaker 5: Man. I love cute.
Speaker 3: All right, I got one more, let's go ahead. Who
Speaker 3: came up with the concept for the video of My Block?
Speaker 3: My Block?
Speaker 5: I don't even remember the guy's name, but I did
Speaker 5: want a seamless video. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to go from one end of the
Speaker 3: street to the I wanted to show the whole entire street.
Speaker 3: I didn't want no cuts in the video. I just
Speaker 3: wanted to Was there any trick used it? And I
Speaker 3: used to watch It's no cuts? It was a railroad
Speaker 3: track and different scenes were set up. How many takes
Speaker 3: did it?
Speaker 5: Say? No, we did that ship all day.
Speaker 3: We went backwards and then forward, backward and then forward. Wow.
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite videos.
Speaker 5: Man. Yeah. I think we shot that ship for like
Speaker 5: two days.
Speaker 3: Because we shot like the early part of it one day,
Speaker 3: and then we shot again the next day, and then
Speaker 3: we finished it that night.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So we got everything out the way I
Speaker 5: think we got it.
Speaker 3: I got more wrapped, like we we're good. I just
Speaker 3: want to say, man, just thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 3: Just want to give you your flowers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you, thank you for your honesty.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm really honest. I can't help it.
Speaker 3: Oh I did think so psp. Okay, So I told
Speaker 3: really decent years ago, and you can confirm the story
Speaker 3: if you were there. He said that at the intro
Speaker 3: of we can't be stopped where they where. It's like
Speaker 3: first we beat on the door, then we kicked them
Speaker 3: up again where the door gets kicked down. He said
Speaker 3: they actually kicked the door down in the studio to
Speaker 3: make that sound effect. I don't remember that, okay, all right,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't never in the studio with him though,
Speaker 3: So y'all did sometimes. Okay, Yeah, we had verses. I
Speaker 3: remember now if you listened to my uh the part
Speaker 3: on murder my reasons of insanity, Okay, when it goes up,
Speaker 3: that was a real.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was about to see y'all guns effects were like.
Speaker 3: Real because we went out to the ranch and shotguns
Speaker 3: and put them on Listen, man, we went out to
Speaker 3: the ranch and shotguns and put them on debts.
Speaker 5: Yes, ship, Yeah, I was gonna say that the sound of.
Speaker 3: Your guns were real. Yeah, they were a little too real.
Speaker 3: They were probably a little too real. Bro, Seriously, I'm
Speaker 3: good man. Anything Steve, anything, just play it one more time,
Speaker 3: just my well, No, I don't give him that ship.
Speaker 5: I would't give him anything. It's the only way to
Speaker 5: close the show. I would.
Speaker 3: I would end that ship like this right now and
Speaker 3: be done. I wouldn't give him anything. I told you
Speaker 3: I was mean as fuck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, your your recollection.
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you about your actual not
Speaker 2: what you're listening to. But you're like collect his records,
Speaker 2: still on your uncle's records or anything. You have a
Speaker 2: large record collection. That's my question. Seems he seems friendly.
Speaker 3: Have I have some ship I got you know what
Speaker 3: I do have that's like a great album to have.
Speaker 3: I have the Marvin Gaye. Hear my dear double album.
Speaker 3: I have that I can remember for sure. I got
Speaker 3: Pink Floyd Dogs out of the Moonship. I got Kissed
Speaker 3: double platinum, he scribbing that one.
Speaker 7: Look at these Vinyl snobs, you are not impressing him.
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, well it sounds like he only has
Speaker 4: three records.
Speaker 5: Largers' hoping. But but you know what it's like, man,
Speaker 5: what are you? What are your five question?
Speaker 3: No? Because he seemed like a guy that top not
Speaker 3: even not even does an island. Because I feel like
Speaker 3: you need music to meditate in the calm you down
Speaker 3: sometimes and to zone out. So what do you What
Speaker 3: are the five records that you choose? What are your
Speaker 3: go to when you're driving in the car, Like you
Speaker 3: gotta hear this record? Uh? I like wrapped around your
Speaker 3: fingers a boy, the Police. I mean I like the
Speaker 3: synchronic of the album a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like the Marvin Gaye.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: Yes, you're going to your Pandora.
Speaker 3: I gotta go, Yeah, going to my ship. You know,
Speaker 3: Peter Peter Gabriel had a bomb ass and you know
Speaker 3: I go to that the sole album. But I think
Speaker 3: that like when when I really want to really ride
Speaker 3: and meditate, I turn on like Bob Marley's uh, I turned.
Speaker 5: On his whole ship, you know, from uh.
Speaker 3: Naturalistic to uh some man vibration of uh Peter Tosh,
Speaker 3: I meant something on I am?
Speaker 5: I am, I am, I have this sign up, mose ass.
Speaker 5: You can not move by tall like he was? Awesome?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: Can I meant something on my sholf? Was that yo?
Speaker 3: As much as the music SNIW, but I am about
Speaker 3: these hundred thousand records. My Marley i Q is like
Speaker 3: devastatingly low.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Well you two, Yeah, I know legend. That's like the
Speaker 3: only one I know. Yes, I know legend, but that's about.
Speaker 5: Your eighties college student or nineties college student.
Speaker 3: Like that's the record. Yeah, no, all right, we're the
Speaker 3: last two. So synchronicity maybe so uh Mary mar Oh,
Speaker 3: then what's your last one? Hey man, midnight? All right,
Speaker 3: I'm mess with you. All right, So ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 3: please give it up for the one and only scar
Speaker 3: faced man. This is amazing. Thank you to the fine
Speaker 3: folks at south By Southwest. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, thank you, Gatsby.
Speaker 3: I've been up there before. That's cool as hell up
Speaker 3: the top there.
Speaker 5: We're all gonna get tattoos afterwards and walking again.
Speaker 3: I think that, I think that, I think that fucking
Speaker 3: cleansing pill is kicked in playing playing, playing, or we
Speaker 3: have of unpaid Bill Fonticolo. It's like he is Sugar
Speaker 3: Steve and the one only scar face. This is quest
Speaker 3: Love signing off. We will see you on the Mexican.
Speaker 5: Thank God West.
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