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Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

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Speaker 1: was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody? It's Sugasteau from Team Supreme. June marks

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Speaker 2: Black Music Month. We often speak about it on Questlove

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Speaker 2: Supreme and we've had some of the legends responsible for

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Speaker 2: the recognition on the show. Every day this June, we

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Speaker 2: are running a different episode from the QLs archives to

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Speaker 2: honor the tradition and attendant of Black Music Month. This

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Speaker 2: week we are focusing on some of the great hip.

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Speaker 3: Hop conversations in the QLs catalog.

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Speaker 2: Our leader Questlove has a new book out called hip

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Speaker 2: Hop's History. Check it out at questlove dot com. Today,

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Speaker 2: we look back at a twenty eighteen interview with the

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Speaker 2: one and Only Scarface. Earlier this month, the Houston legend

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Speaker 2: performed at the Ruse Picnic.

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Speaker 4: Listen back as he talks ghetto boys, solo career, and

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Speaker 4: much more.

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Speaker 5: Four Boys of what You'll see a genius We go.

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Speaker 6: Supremo, Supremo, Supremo, Role, Supremo, Supremo, Supremo, Supremo Role.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my words in my bass, Yeah, I called you

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Speaker 5: don't fuck it. That's all.

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Speaker 6: Supremo Supremo Role Supremo Supremo.

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Speaker 3: Rod My name is Fante Yeah, Pure Satisfaction. Yeah, with

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Speaker 3: the King of the South. Yeah, DJ Action Supremo Supremo,

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Speaker 3: Role called Supremo.

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Speaker 4: Roll call.

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Speaker 5: My name is Sugar Yo.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm disappointed though I thought I was gonna meet Al Pacino.

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Speaker 6: Supreval roll Suprema Son Son Supremo.

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Speaker 4: Roll call.

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Speaker 5: I'm on pay Bill. Yeah, not feeling mad. Yeah, welcome

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Speaker 5: Scarface Yeah, real name Brad.

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Speaker 6: Suprema Supremo. Roll called Suprema Son Supremo.

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Speaker 7: Roll call best like em Yeah with scarfre is in

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Speaker 7: the place. Yeah, and it feels real weird. Yeah, but

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Speaker 7: I love Faces Rome.

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Speaker 6: Supremo. Roll cueing up right now, sure, roll call.

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Speaker 3: My name is Space Yeah at X Yeah, talk that ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm the best. Roll call.

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Speaker 6: Suppreval roll call Brema Sun Sun, roll call Suprema Son

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Speaker 6: Sun Supremo.

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Speaker 3: Roll called Suprema.

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Speaker 5: Yes Sun Supremo roll call. Wait before I start the

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Speaker 5: introduction for Layah.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a special South by

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Speaker 3: Southwest edition of Course Left Supreme, brought to you by

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Speaker 3: the fine folks of Pandora.

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Speaker 5: Thank you all for coming out.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for Ben.

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Speaker 5: We are live outside behind a gas station. Tattoo Polo.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I'm trying to go to that tattoo, Paula. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get ink up.

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Speaker 5: We'll join you.

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Speaker 3: We'll all get the same collectively, all do that together.

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Speaker 3: To my far right, I will say this is the

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Speaker 3: god of blue collar grown man music. Make yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: please support. No news is good news by our very

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Speaker 3: own Finn Tiglo. What I gotta see your last name

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Speaker 3: with this foma uh. And to his left is uh

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Speaker 3: the super Uh when I say the super engineer for

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Speaker 3: all those soul quarying classics you love by the Roots

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Speaker 3: and Eric Abaudu and di'angelo and wowl blah.

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Speaker 5: Blah, this man is the roots I forgot. Yeah us too.

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Speaker 3: Uh. This is an also a host of chatting with

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Speaker 3: Sugar on Instagram. Follow this man, we we need him

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Speaker 3: to have more followers.

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Speaker 5: S U g A.

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Speaker 3: Sugar, Steve s t E v E. Sugar Steve uh

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Speaker 3: mandel right here to uh police clap.

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Speaker 5: And uh, my far life is my my fellow Hamiltonian.

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Speaker 5: That sounds regal as fuck.

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Speaker 3: I don't think yeah or hamilt Yeah, this is my

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Speaker 3: my Hamilton brother right here. And also the the only

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Speaker 3: member of q O l S. It's one step away

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Speaker 3: the O day. Hope to be ghetto one day. You

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Speaker 3: the God of the children is children's television workshops still

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Speaker 5: Or now sesame streets on HB.

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Speaker 3: My boss is here, boss television works out still think no,

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Speaker 3: it's not works Okay, I'll just took it over. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I see anyway, give it up for unpaid bill.

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Speaker 5: Two of my far left, please.

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Speaker 3: We haven't called her that in a second. I forgot

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Speaker 3: I've been here in a minute. Well now now we

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Speaker 3: we we dubbed her. It's like you so ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: please give it up for it.

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Speaker 5: It's like.

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Speaker 7: Thank you'll all right?

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Speaker 5: And uh, what can I say?

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Speaker 3: You know, our guess is practically on every top five

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Speaker 3: list of your favorite MC's MC ever compiled.

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Speaker 5: If you ask any MC that you respect.

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Speaker 3: That from anywhere from respect, Yeah, this man is in

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Speaker 3: easily in their top five or their top three.

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Speaker 5: Most of the times he's number one. You know what

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Speaker 3: Uh. From his days of being the the the PM,

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Speaker 3: uh missus Scarface's back, the world is yours, the fixed

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Speaker 3: last of the dying breed, especially the Diary.

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Speaker 5: And let's not forget his appearance as Upgrade. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: shot right here in at XO.

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Speaker 3: Did not to mention you. You've appeared with every hip

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Speaker 3: hop god You've you've been on, from Big to jay

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Speaker 3: Z Too Too Short to to Tupac to Devin the

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Speaker 3: Dude Too. I can name them all, but we'll be

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Speaker 3: here all day. Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up

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Speaker 3: for God himself. Scarface. Yes, yes, I appreciate that introduction.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, man? I'm doing good? How y'all doing so?

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Speaker 5: Am I allowed to call you?

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Speaker 3: I know?

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Speaker 5: Rappers or are no? Man? We're friends for real, don't Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying When I see you what, Brad,

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Speaker 3: But exactly, I know that you know we're in a

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Speaker 3: professional settings and you know I'm still I'm still be red, Okay,

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Speaker 5: That's be ill. That's right, don't forget to forget it tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Be ill.

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Speaker 3: How you doing today, bro? I can't complain about it, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it. It looking good, man, I feel pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say, in the last two years when

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Speaker 3: I've seen you, are you used to people doing double

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Speaker 5: That that you when you come up and say, how

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Speaker 5: doing no like it's the fifteen year old bread? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I want to see I want the secret of age regression.

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Speaker 3: We were talking back stage earlier. You said you don't

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Speaker 3: do no bread now like I'm not doing no bread. Wow,

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Speaker 3: A chill on the bread, and I'm getting ready to

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Speaker 3: do this this this uh uh intestinal cleanse. Okay, No,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. The dude was talking about some testing

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Speaker 5: In the house for like two weeks.

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Speaker 3: What right?

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Speaker 4: That doesn't start today?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 3: I took my first shot today, so we got I

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Speaker 3: was kidding, but yeah, if you smell something found less

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Speaker 3: mean you dropped like you dropped like one hundred over

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Speaker 3: the past coup of years.

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Speaker 5: Right, how long it was? Five years?

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Speaker 5: Wow? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What was it? What did you do?

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Speaker 5: Like cleanses and eating right and running and.

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Speaker 5: No that came later.

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Speaker 3: Can I can I ask though? Can one fully commit?

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Speaker 5: Hard?

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Speaker 3: If you want to south, if your life is on

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Speaker 3: the line, you gotta do with what what what they say?

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Speaker 7: Do?

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Speaker 5: Oh that's your yo.

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Speaker 7: But I was in the fifth Ward last year and

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Speaker 7: I was trying to find greens. It was really hard.

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Speaker 5: Well, you didn't go to the right spot in the ghetto.

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Speaker 5: They ain't got no healthy story.

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Speaker 7: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: They got they got fucking uh.

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Speaker 3: The little uh Chinese little spots that they that the

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Speaker 3: soul food, that's the new soul food. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 4: Are you shouting out heaps of them on the stage.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on here?

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Speaker 5: What is a GV? Never mind.

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Speaker 3: Outside Joe, but they really really take care of the people, man.

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Speaker 3: And I don't spend no money nowhere else but there.

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Speaker 3: That's what's up. So you were born in the fifth Ward,

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Speaker 3: correct sir, yo every every time, like, oh for one

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but you were born in Houston. Correct? Pretty much

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Speaker 5: you're going outside of Houston. Still wrong? May close enough Houston.

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Speaker 5: I guess I'm a Houstonian. Okay, I'm a native Houstonian.

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Speaker 3: Cool, Okay, Well yeah, I actually I don't know much

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Speaker 3: about your your your early beginnings, like what was your

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Speaker 3: Like it was a lot of funk and rock and roll. Really,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a walking encyclopedia. When it comes to funk

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Speaker 3: and rock and roll, it's you know, soul, not R

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Speaker 5: Yes, soul. Okay, we'll explain to me, Like what was

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Speaker 3: Like, like, how did you so when my mom went

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Speaker 3: to work, I went to my grandmother's house, and all

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Speaker 3: my uncles were in the rock and roll, so we

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Speaker 3: played you know, uh thin Lizzy, Ted Nugent, Uh fucking.

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Speaker 5: You're a big Pink Floyd fan, right Pink Floyd Rush.

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Speaker 3: But when we got home, we listened to Marvin Gaye

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Speaker 3: and Prince you know Osley Brothers.

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Speaker 5: That was at my mom's house. At my grandmother's house

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Speaker 5: was rocked out.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, was that unusual though for your Like why

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Speaker 3: were your uncles into that particular?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I just that's hot.

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Speaker 3: That's what I grew up here, So I don't I

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Speaker 3: didn't know it was anything. It's supposed to be different

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Speaker 3: about it. You feel me like, I didn't know even.

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Speaker 7: When you talk to your friends about music.

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Speaker 5: I grew up around all my uncle so I could

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Speaker 3: So no one tests a year. My grandma think me, man,

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Speaker 3: we fight like okay, okay, fight with my uncles. I

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Speaker 3: was a little dude fighting the big dudes. So ano

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Speaker 3: that you're a guitarist, so like, how still I'm pretty good?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that you Are you related to Johnny Nash? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I can see clearly now, Wow, he's your cousin. Does

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Speaker 5: Is Johnny from Houston? What about that accent? Though?

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Speaker 3: He don't got no accent? Your faking accent? Johnny don't

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Speaker 7: People just affiliate that song with like no, he wrote

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Speaker 5: Did you know that?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I would assume that he came from Jamaica.

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Speaker 3: So he's from Houston, Texas South Park, Damn man, John

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Speaker 5: I can see everybody knows the way. I got a

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Speaker 3: What what's going on? They had a cartoon called Hercules.

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Speaker 3: Y'all remember he wrote the fucking ship for it. Sorry

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Speaker 3: we should I didn't know that. I didn't wow Hercules

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Speaker 5: To Bob as you do.

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Speaker 5: Is he a first cousin or second cousin or first cousin.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It was old folks. I annoyed.

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Speaker 4: Can he still see clearly?

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Speaker 5: You know what that may be? That's a good question.

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Speaker 5: That's a good question. I don't know. That was. That

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Speaker 5: it already happened a Q. Yes, don't do that, Steve.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to do better than that.

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Speaker 5: That was. That was the best one. So what what

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: We got a map and like that ancestry dot com

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Speaker 5: I think Premiere from prayv you and some ship.

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Speaker 7: So break down.

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Speaker 3: If you have heard him say that he had Houston roots,

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Speaker 5: He's dope and he's dope.

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Speaker 3: Right yeah, all right, you set me straight, and my

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Speaker 5: On the show. It's really you can be I don't know, well, no,

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Speaker 5: Okay, that ship is like an hour away or something.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Textas is big as ship outside. We're just

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Speaker 5: Right, let me break down the pres here we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, me being from Houston, like I love Houston, right,

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Speaker 5: It's like a small like Humbo County.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like it's like everybody's doing their own ship

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, nobody's mad. They go out,

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Speaker 3: They have south By Southwest, they have Austin City limits

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Speaker 5: For the record, Austin is my second favorite city on

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Speaker 3: If I were to retired, this is the second this

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Speaker 3: Austin is in the class by itself. I wish that

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Speaker 7: South in the Texas were all that with that?

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Speaker 5: Not y'all?

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Speaker 7: Damn it got quiet.

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Speaker 3: I don't give I think I think Austin's with you.

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Speaker 3: So how did how did hip hop culture reach you

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Speaker 3: started with music. It started it started with growing up

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Speaker 3: You know. So you were in high school bands and

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Speaker 3: Now that they've taken the the music out of the

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Speaker 5: But excuse me. I grew up in that. I grew

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Speaker 3: Rappers Delight was one of the first hip hop songs

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Speaker 3: I had heard. My cousin is from New York, so

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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time up there and I

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Speaker 5: Fun, you know what I mean. So you guys, and

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Speaker 5: that's how you got a lot of your education. I did. Well.

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Speaker 3: See that that shows why you're a cut above the

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Speaker 3: rest because you have you have that early education.

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Speaker 5: With I was. I was, I was way in the

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Speaker 3: Do you remember how old you were? How old you

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Speaker 3: were when you wrote your first round? Probably was about

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Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen. But what was the moment where you were like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I seen a man die. Wow, That's when I knew, like,

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Speaker 3: oh shit, oh you mean literally not the song the

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Speaker 5: If you ain't him to my in my catalog. That

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Speaker 5: was when I really knew that. Oh ship you guys,

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Speaker 5: when you broke that song, it took that long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was all fun and games in

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Speaker 3: the beginning, right, You make a song and you go

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Speaker 3: my fucking hand. I broke my hand, and I had

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Speaker 3: some painkillers, and I was I drink. I used to

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Speaker 5: And I remember, Yo, can we hang out as we should?

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Speaker 5: Let me remind you awesome You called smoking going to

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Speaker 5: jail right? So quiet? No, it's quiet because.

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Speaker 2: Events staff, they're not they're not cops. No, sorry, So

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Speaker 2: you were saying you were high as fuck.

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Speaker 5: I was super high, super high, And then.

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Speaker 3: I remember being in the studio and the lights was off,

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Speaker 3: you can see was the the glass. The engineer in

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Speaker 3: the inspiration for all the great song. No don't play

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Speaker 5: I don't play that. So when.

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Speaker 3: The first words and the way that it was dark

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Speaker 5: Out right shot seal something my fucking body, I was like, oh.

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Speaker 3: You too.

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Speaker 5: It hit me.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of where I was. And it was at

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Speaker 3: that moment Brad and new he had sucked up. Right then,

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Speaker 3: it's right right then, hit. It's weird to hear you

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Speaker 3: have a spiritual experience about yourself, like you're also you're

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Speaker 5: That's kind of cool. You don't really like me? No

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Speaker 3: It was that moment that I knew I have fucked up.

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Speaker 3: I hit that he greeted his father with this that ship.

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Speaker 5: I was like, tell us the line, the full line.

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Speaker 3: He greeted his father with his hands out rehabilitated, slightly,

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Speaker 3: glad to be the man's child. He glad to see

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Speaker 3: just shot that ship up your spine. Well, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if y'all ever had a really, really good nut,

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Speaker 3: but that's how it felt.

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Speaker 7: You'll learn maybe when your thirties.

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Speaker 5: I ain't am out of that, my bad man. I

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Speaker 5: want to apologize to Sesame Street.

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Speaker 3: So wait, what what I'm saying is you're saying that

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Speaker 3: when you wrote that, then you felt like you were

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Speaker 3: when I wrote it when you heard it back. Okay,

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, when in your teens did you

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Speaker 5: You just mean you were just messing around that whole time?

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Speaker 5: Oh fucking right. I didn't even expect to get paid.

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Speaker 3: For it, even during my mind's playing tricks on hand

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Speaker 3: But you know, I had no fucking idea that this

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Speaker 3: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you

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Speaker 3: mean you're trying to pay me yeah to rap? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I what but not the monetary reward of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean in terms of no fuck that a quest.

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Speaker 3: It was about the money when we was growing up,

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Speaker 3: because we ain't have none, right like that. She was

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Speaker 3: So when you said that you was gonna pay me

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Speaker 3: A no brainer.

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Speaker 5: So when did when did y'all form Ghetto Boys? How

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Speaker 3: I wasn't there, So the original information was Johnny? So

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Speaker 3: why did how did they just? Or I guess asked

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Speaker 3: about J Prince? Like what is I've heard a lot

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Speaker 3: about the legend of J Prince, but can't I don't

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Speaker 5: That it's it's a legend.

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Speaker 3: Who is JA what?

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Speaker 5: And who is J Prince? And how did he bring

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Speaker 5: you into the fold of the Ghetto Boys?

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Speaker 3: And in my opinion, Jay is a masterful thinker m hm.

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Speaker 3: He's probably up in the top tier of thinkers chess players.

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Speaker 3: If you know, like an Einstein type of motherfucker, that's him.

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Speaker 3: He has to be, because when you google him, you

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Speaker 3: can't find nothing about him. And that's the most amazing

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Speaker 3: he's I don't know, I would be more afraid of

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Speaker 3: James than Trump. Wow for real, yeah for real, Like

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Speaker 3: he's a masterful fucking thing. Yeah, he's a master strategist.

443
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: So how did you guys meet and how he did

444
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: he bring you into? Nah, it was like he heard

445
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: the song and he was like, Hey, we're gonna put

446
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: that guy in this group.

447
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 5: And that's what it was.

448
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: But that's not that's not an average thing. Like you know,

449
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: I got a group. Hey, I'm like, but you it

450
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: was like I got a group and Ghetto Boys cool,

451
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: You're gone, You're gone, You're in, You're cool.

452
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 5: My face is in.

453
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

454
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: What you remember what record was it of yours that

455
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 5: he heard that makes the the original?

456
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: Wow?

457
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 5: Yeah fucked him up, Like, oh hell no, I don't

458
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: want no competition that. Yeah.

459
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: So was he the mastermind behind you guys just being

460
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: because when I when I first heard of y'all, I guess.

461
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: When Chuck G.

462
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: Chuck D shouted you guys out on Fear of a

463
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: Black Planet, That's the first time I heard of the

464
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: Ghetto Boys.

465
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 5: And then I'll say, like.

466
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: Maybe two months later, then suddenly you guys were just

467
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: I heard like I saw more of your press than

468
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: I heard the music because the controversy with the with

469
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: the pm r C and I guess, uh, I forget

470
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: who the head editor?

471
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: Well, no, no, the head editor of Billboard was Ted.

472
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 3: Uh.

473
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 5: I forget his name, Like it's is like, no, no,

474
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 5: he's going, He's gone. But is he dead? Oh?

475
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 7: You got something?

476
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm just asking Like usually like people don't just step down.

477
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: People don't relinquish that. People that don't just relinquish their power.

478
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: So if Ted, either either Ted is dead or Ted

479
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: is rich.

480
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: I forget.

481
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: I forget his name, but I remember reading his his

482
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: uh editor about the shock of this album, and instantly

483
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta get this and the album

484
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: that was was gripping on the other level. Okay, they're

485
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: just when we did like three hundred thousand records independently

486
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: on the first one before Rick even picked the ship up.

487
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: So how did Rick even get Uh? He probably heard

488
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: of ship somewhere, you know, Like so it wasn't like

489
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: you guys were looking for me.

490
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 5: Now, we're not looking for a deal at all.

491
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: But when you make somebody on an offer that they

492
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: can't refuse, you kind of got to make that move.

493
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 7: You feel Me and were y'all the first like Southern

494
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 7: group on at the time.

495
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: It was American So Rick had left Death Jam and

496
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 5: started Deaf.

497
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm gonna go out on the

498
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: limb and say I might have been the first Southern

499
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: act on Death Jam.

500
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: Yeah you were, because who else?

501
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: Because you were before Loot right No no, no, no,

502
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: no no no Luther came out on Death Jam South

503
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Oh you mean yeah, just jam proper.

504
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was Deaf Jam with the with the with

505
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: the turntable. That was super important.

506
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: That's a that's a bucket list playing right there, Like

507
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: to be on death Jam, that was a dream.

508
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: That's a childhood dream.

509
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: To be on Death Jam from Houston, Texas, like not

510
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: like a small little neighborhood in Houston, Texas called South

511
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: Akers And I'm on fucking death Jam.

512
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: That's real supposed to be easy to never ever.

513
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: Take my my travel, you know, my journey for granted, bro,

514
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm from right there and I'm sitting here with

515
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: one of my favorite, my favorite drummer.

516
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: I call him what I call you, the human NBC

517
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 5: you told.

518
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: PC like he doesn't. That's my favorite compliment. That's my

519
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: favorite compliment. He's the human in PC. I used to

520
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: think he got mad. I used to I was like, man,

521
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: he got man. I call him a drum machine. No,

522
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: that that's what that was always my life cold to

523
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: be like a drum to be that, Yeah, you're in

524
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: that pocket, bro, I gotta bit man.

525
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: Y'all give it a one time a quest because he's

526
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 5: a bad motherfucker. I love that.

527
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 7: This is the first is a question.

528
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 5: He actually took a compliment. Everyone hit me with the thing.

529
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 5: I don't That's all I got. I was like, wait,

530
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: can I take over my show? Please? Go right ahead?

531
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: All right. So when you're.

532
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: When you're most most group situations are you know, usually

533
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: childhood friends that jail with each other and and and

534
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: then become a group. You guys were sort of just similar,

535
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: like it's almost like a boy band almost like like

536
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: this is how the ship happened.

537
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 5: You knew him and him and me, and we had

538
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 5: no idea who the fuck we were.

539
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: We know, we didn't know. We just got in the

540
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: vand one day and rolled out somewhere and wrapped. It

541
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: seemed like a super group though, because it's a supergroup.

542
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: So how did you guys? Was it easy to gel

543
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: as a group. I mean, you're strangers and suddenly you're

544
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: gonna enter this this business venture.

545
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: I had no idea that it would turn into a business.

546
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: I thought it was just I thought it was just

547
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: having fun rapping and recording the ship, you know, like

548
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: this was my first time. I had no idea about

549
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: nothing in the music industry, nothing about the music business period.

550
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: So I just wrote my ship and I left. Wow,

551
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: you know, we're not friends, we don't hang out, were

552
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: not cool. I don't know, y'all, So what what made

553
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: here for? So y'all weren't friends?

554
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: Y'all? You just kill We're not friends now?

555
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 7: Wore no way? But are you family now?

556
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: Like? Is it like that?

557
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 7: Like you know, don't like them?

558
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: You know?

559
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 7: Okay?

560
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and don't say Bill his name too long,

561
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: too too loud. He'll pop his little lass up in here.

562
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 7: Oh ship.

563
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 5: I swear.

564
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: I had a crazy I had a crazy uh uh

565
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: Bushwick Bill story where I.

566
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: Didn't realize that he had gotten on stage.

567
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: This one there was it's like ninety seven, ninety eight,

568
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: and I was playing with a very unusual kick drum.

569
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: Maybe it was a twenty eight inch kick drum.

570
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 5: It was like the part of the size. He was

571
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 5: standing up in front of him inside my kick drum?

572
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Whoa what?

573
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: Please tell me?

574
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 7: Please tell me.

575
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: It was like he was like laying and there was

576
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: a pillow. There was a bunch of pillows, drum. He

577
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: sat on the drum riser, and then he just took

578
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: a nap inside of the kid. I've heard more crazy

579
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: stories about Bill, like that's the one thing we never

580
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: asked MC search for story.

581
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: But hey, I was in the group with him.

582
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 7: Look like that Martin episode.

583
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 5: My favorite is face.

584
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: But what was that? What was that?

585
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 5: Face?

586
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: Nobody loves me, Nobody loves me face. Nobody loves his

587
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: short man. But boy, how a short man can love? Yeah,

588
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: I got some real stories, man, But I let him

589
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: tell his own man. So the cover of We Can't

590
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: be Stopped, that's real.

591
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: I was pissed. You can tell it by the I'm looking. Yeah.

592
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: I was like, man, that's so fucking disrespectful. So tell

593
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: me the call that you got. Obviously, Jay Prince, get

594
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: to the hospital right now.

595
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: No, he didn't say that. Hey don't Jay, don't get

596
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 5: on the phone. Man Chief called us.

597
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 7: Uh oh, this is the infamous cover.

598
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: Yees where he's in the hospital, just set it up

599
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: for our listeners. So I guess the legend was that

600
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: he mixed but clear with something that was so clear

601
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: we tried to shoot his eye out. He made the

602
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: song about ever so clear joints. He shot a bushwick.

603
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: Bill shot his eye out, and I can see the look.

604
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: Did I fall marketing? Tell me the story. Let I'm

605
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: gonna let him tell his own sto. No, no, no,

606
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: you were one of the covers, So explain to me

607
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: how that cover came to be. So we had heard

608
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: like at five o'clock in the morning, Bill got shot

609
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: and he got shot in the eye, and I was like, funk,

610
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: it's over. Yeah, like he's fucking dead. But some kind

611
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: of way that little motherfucker was rose up.

612
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: Like I was ship.

613
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 7: Did he go through or where does it go?

614
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way it went, But I know that motherfucker

615
00:33:53,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: ain't dead. He went to the hospital. They were like, yeah, man,

616
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: y'all might want to come up here and get this albucol.

617
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: Because Jake so fucking smart he thought Bill was gonna

618
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: die too, so so he wanted y'all to post next

619
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: the body. Oh my god, hey, bro, I can't make

620
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: that up. Man. We thought Bill was gonna die and

621
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: he was gonna take a picture on Bill's deathbed, and

622
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: that she was gonna sell a million records, and he did.

623
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: Fuck it, did it? So?

624
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: I mean, first, you know, if Bill would had his

625
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: eyes closing, ship, I would have been cool with it.

626
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 5: But but he had a fucking phone on his head,

627
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: the old brick phone.

628
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: That ship was like this big He's sitting up on

629
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: the gurney like you see his legs and shp like

630
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 3: he was sitting up on that bitch like this.

631
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 5: You can see.

632
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: Like a big ass man with some little short little

633
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: legs and ship. Right, he's got his fucking band aid off,

634
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: his eye hanging down. His eye is fucking sticking out

635
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: like a Halloween man. And I'm like, shit, you serious?

636
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: You want taking picture with this this fucking Halloween costume?

637
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 5: Bro? No man.

638
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: And from that point on, Bill has been like a

639
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: Halloween like a walking like a twenty four seven, three

640
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: sixty five fucking Halloween costume. Bro. He became chucky. He

641
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: became a Halloween costume because he was a joker too.

642
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: You're right, and now he's now when's the last time

643
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: you talked to him. He damn that long now, bro decade,

644
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: I don't never talk to Bill no more work.

645
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 5: I'm good like wow, No, I'm fine, like it's good

646
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 5: like we left in a great place.

647
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: What about you and Willie Deed, y'all have any We

648
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: just talk sometimes, Okay, okay?

649
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 5: But will he ain't come out on stage man one time. Man,

650
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: I still kind of feel fucked up about that. When

651
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 5: was this We had a concert in Houston and ship

652
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: and it was DJ Quick and.

653
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: A few other you know, e Ford like some great

654
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: ship going on, right, And I was a co headliner

655
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: with ice Cube all right. Now, a couple of weeks

656
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: before WILLI came out with Trench, Willie Ambial came out

657
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: with Trench to do this do the mind playing tracks record, right,

658
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: And I wrote the fucking record, So I do this

659
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: ship man, And I'm thinking, Willy gonna come out and

660
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: do the ship on the strip because you know you're

661
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 3: probably gonna go on to it one of these days.

662
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: And then he didn't go out on my set and

663
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: went out on ice Cube. Shit.

664
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, man, I ain't never

665
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: going towards you no more. We ain't gonna never do

666
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: no more songs.

667
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 7: No motherfucking none of that a tribute to hip hop

668
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 7: honors NBA.

669
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 5: You know I don't believe that, right o? God? Yeah,

670
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 5: come on, man, it has to happen.

671
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 7: You know you said something though you wrote all of

672
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 7: your minds land tricks on you, the.

673
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: Whole song except for Willie's verse. And I did the beat, okay,

674
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: how okay? The the splash, the splash symbol at the

675
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: end of each verse.

676
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 5: How okay.

677
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: This is only a nerd question that a mirror would ask,

678
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: what was the ideology I have No.

679
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: You knew that was the Yeah, I knew. But here's

680
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 5: the thing.

681
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: You know, how you run your you program your your

682
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: NBC sixty right, and you gotta do the change up

683
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: in the last two. Yes, And that's that's one of

684
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: my favorite when I'm when I'm hitting a crash symbol.

685
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: That's that's my crash symbol that I always hear. It's

686
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: one of the loudest. It could have been poorly mixed too, though,

687
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: so it probably was. But it you know it, if

688
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: I mixed that record or map, it has made my

689
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: arm coming down with the force of hercules on every

690
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: symbol I've ever hit.

691
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 5: Is that what you did mind playing tracks on you

692
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 5: did on the NPC, I did it.

693
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: On the NPC sixty and U and EPs the Sonic Wow,

694
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: EPs Wow.

695
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 7: Can you not? I'm not. I'm just my first nerd

696
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 7: out moment. But can you walk us through that that

697
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 7: beat process just like where it started from?

698
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: And how you a room?

699
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 7: Now? I mean that song, I mean that particular song,

700
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 7: that particular song.

701
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: So when.

702
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: Willy left the group after the ice Cube disc the

703
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: ice Cube with No Basiline, Oh yeah, yeah. When ice

704
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: Cube said WILLI d told me to let a whole

705
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: be a hole, that was the end of the Ghetto

706
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: Boys for good.

707
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 5: That was it. Woow.

708
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: He thought he's bigger than the group.

709
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: You know.

710
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: I don't know that's between y'all to talk about, but

711
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: I know that after that shit happened, it was no

712
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: more will he left wow, because that's what I was

713
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: going out like a soldier record.

714
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 5: That was next.

715
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: I have no idea, I don't know, but that's what happened.

716
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: I was working want to, I was forced to work

717
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: on solo album, your first album. Oh just the missis

718
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: Scarface's back. Yeah, and this is all in my book too.

719
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: By the way, you're saying you didn't want to make

720
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: that first solo record. I wasn't even trying to be

721
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: no fucking rapper. That shit was too much, It took

722
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: too much time, and it wasn't paying the fucking money.

723
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: The fuck. I want to be a rapper. Form. Just

724
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: give me enough money to buy this so I can

725
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 5: flip that and do this. That's what I want to do.

726
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 5: I want to do that that rap shit. Okay, wait,

727
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: let me enter retire one second.

728
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: This also is the ongoing continuation of our discovery that

729
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: all classics and all great moments are done in that

730
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: alpha state. Oh yeah, where if you plan, if you

731
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: plan a great moment or if you plan to make

732
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: a classic, whatever, it never works.

733
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: But when it's just an afterthought, like.

734
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: Whatever, that's what the magic is.

735
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

736
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: So all this time I'm thinking that that first solo

737
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: record was like this plan for you, like to pull

738
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: a Michael Jackson off the.

739
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: Wall, and not that I can recall.

740
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: Man, I could be wrong, but I if I if

741
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: I if I recall correctly, I was. I was making

742
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: songs for UH for my solo album, and I had

743
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: a song called my mind playing tricks on Me. I

744
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 3: had three verses, my first two verses, and this year

745
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: Halloween fell on the weekend verse. All right, well some

746
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: kind of way priority Uh had a meeting with James

747
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: and I. That record ended up on the Ghetto Boys record.

748
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was my solo. So I was on

749
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: my solo album. Okay, but it helped us set up

750
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: your solo though, Like, that's that's the that's the biggest

751
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: fucking move that we could have made. You know, it

752
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: set up everybody's solo. If everybody got it, if everybody

753
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: got if everybody coming off the success of a great

754
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: fucking group album, then everybody has the opportunity to break solo.

755
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: I mean it also, well good, it's your talk show,

756
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 3: no no, no podcast continue.

757
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 5: I I took.

758
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: And once I tasted the blood, like, I was like

759
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: fuck that. Like I can argue with myself. I can

760
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: be at odds with me by myself. I don't have

761
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: to have three other motherfuckers to argue with. I can

762
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: just go in this motherfucker and fight with me. You know,

763
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: I could deal with my own ego. That's the most

764
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: fun anyway.

765
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like, man ain't right.

766
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 7: So wait, so since that song is your baby, what

767
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 7: does it feel like, all these years later to have

768
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 7: a song that's like like every Halloween it is a time.

769
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: And you know what the greatest part about that is,

770
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: I'm right there in the same light as my cousin

771
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: because his.

772
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: Song's gonna play forever.

773
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: Mind playing tricks, that song is gonna play forever. Like

774
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: all the rest of that ship that I did in

775
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: my life may not play for it made it. That

776
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: shit made end pretty soon, but I know that every time.

777
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: If they don't take away Halloween, I'm good. Yea, So

778
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: how did you tread it? Oh? Wait, I kind of

779
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: want to go back to the first record. What I

780
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: want to know is is that you know, for those

781
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: that aren't steeped and and and and and baptized in

782
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: hip hop culture, you know a lot of the ideas

783
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: of what, especially in the political world, that were against

784
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: rap music at the time. I mean, you guys were

785
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: basically that, you know, the most shocking, the most disgusting, whatever,

786
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: like you could whatever, it's superlative you could use. Was

787
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: it was the plan for that in the studio, like

788
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: We're just going to be the most offensive group of

789
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: all time. I don't, I don't. I don't think you

790
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: could plan that. You know, I think that you look

791
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: at what's happening around you, like, and this was. You know,

792
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: I remember going to Milwaukee and going to Jeffrey Dahmer's

793
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: house and ship where he did that ship.

794
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 5: At Wait you went there? Why? I mean you you

795
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 5: hear about the ship?

796
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know a venue you all play too, because

797
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: it was His house was right across the street from

798
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: this big giant Milwaukee venue, only it's like a Masonic

799
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: temple hall.

800
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 7: Did he performed.

801
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: Dahmer's house? We didn't stop. I've been curious about what

802
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: was on the inside of that apartment. Yeah, I didn't

803
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 5: go in. There wasn't anything.

804
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: I remember passing by that motherfucker stopping and getting scared.

805
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, the house was empty.

806
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: Everything was. I don't know if that motherfucker was in

807
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: jail yet now he ate.

808
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: Everything in the house. Missing that point, you're missing the

809
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: whole point.

810
00:43:51,520 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, excuse me. That is Yes, that was a

811
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: great one. You can get one for that.

812
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: So with all of that ship going on, Uh, guys,

813
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: we just kind of rapped about it, you know, but

814
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: you y'all realized y'all were the first to really cross

815
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: that line. Like at that point n w A was

816
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: the was the high mark of offense, and even their

817
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: stuff was more politically offensive, right, not like to the

818
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: level y'all Like that boy said, uh like having sex

819
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: with corpses and ship? Yeah, like what like I think

820
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: that was?

821
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: I would I didn't write that, by the way.

822
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: It would take a little bitty spooky looking motherfucker the

823
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: sat ship like that, But he.

824
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: Didn't write it either.

825
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: Willie wrote that verse was really right that a guy

826
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: named Jukebox wrote that, and Jukebox later went to jail

827
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: for like a murder or something.

828
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 7: Of course because he was having of course.

829
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: No, I'm nah, it was just it was just one

830
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: of those men. We we really weathered a storm that

831
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: we wasn't supposed to get out of, you know what

832
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, it was a lot of shit that

833
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: went on in those years.

834
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 5: You know.

835
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: It was a lot of uh uh uh people getting killed.

836
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: There was a lot of people going to jail. There

837
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: was a lot of people being indicted. There was a

838
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: lot of motherfucking friends falling out and not speaking no more. Like,

839
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: it was a lot of penitentiary chances that went on

840
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: doing that shit during that time.

841
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: Man and we weathered that storm.

842
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: Man, And from from seventeen years old to right now, man,

843
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 3: I'm I'm.

844
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 5: Happy, bro, I'm coming up on my thirty and hip

845
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 5: hop yeah nice and in actual years too.

846
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 7: I mean, you could you could do that? You could

847
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 7: you could do that.

848
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: I signed my contract August seventeenth, nineteen eighty seven. No

849
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: eighty eight, I'm lying eighty eight. I was seventeen years

850
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: old and now forty seven. That's amazing, man, Ain't shit

851
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: amazing by being forty seven? Man, you just gotta keep

852
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: waking up. This shit hurts.

853
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 5: I want to get to the I want to get

854
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 5: to the diary that was.

855
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 3: I feel I'm gonna skip skip over the world one,

856
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: but we can get no, no, no, no, go to it.

857
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: No no no, that's talking about I got some cool

858
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: shit that happened there, yea, So let me roll all right?

859
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: Is that you planning based on.

860
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: My uncle playing the base? Man?

861
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: I got one of the coldest uncles at like my

862
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 3: uncle Eddie, and we're not friends.

863
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 5: We don't get along at all.

864
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: So can I interrupt here because I'm confused.

865
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: You seem like a super friendly guy who has no friends,

866
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: So why aren't your friends with even your uncle.

867
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: Also, that's say, yo, we should play one, but not

868
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: right now, but that he's right playing now though I'll

869
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: save it for later. Yeah, Like, I'm really cool as fun,

870
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: but I don't got no friends. I don't really want

871
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: no friends.

872
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: What about us? Can we be?

873
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: Can we can quest love?

874
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 5: Now? That's that's the second time you asked to be

875
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 5: his friend.

876
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 7: I knew that before.

877
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: You as actually uh cool, it me and cool, but

878
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: the rest of y'all wasn't really you know, I'm gonna

879
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get him.

880
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: On chatting with that's so listen, first of all, Mike Dean,

881
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: how did he enter into the to the conversation? Because

882
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: so Mike Dean was an engineer, Uh okay, okay, but

883
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: Mike Dean playing for Selena? Ah wow, Okay, Mike Dean

884
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: was Mike Dean.

885
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 5: Was a keyboard player of Saxophone player some ship for Selena.

886
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so, but but listen though, like Mike Dean is

887
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: a bad motherfuckers he's cold. You ever heard the intro

888
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: to Jesse James. Yes, Mike Dean and Mike Dean a

889
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: bad motherfucker straight up. We would bring ship to the

890
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: studio and start making, you know, making making songs or whatever.

891
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: And Mike Dean would play on that ship. Yeah, and

892
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: he's a masterful mixer for those that don't know, I

893
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: mean right now, I mean, Mike Dean's really getting this

894
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: moment in the sun. Kanye as Kanye's Travis Scott. Everything

895
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: he did Panda right, did he do well? He did

896
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: stuff on Designer's record. Okay, Okay, I don't know what

897
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's name it like from two chains to

898
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: I mean, he's popping more now.

899
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 5: But I didn't realize that he worked on your records first.

900
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask you about the rap a

901
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: Lot production squad. So n O, Joe Beato all, what

902
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: was the deal with those cats? How involvedre you in that?

903
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: You're forgetting me right, I'm saying you. I had you

904
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: in the credit read them fucking credits. I read them,

905
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: trust me. How did What was it like when you

906
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: collaborating with them? I think that you know, Joe has

907
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: his own style and SODA's Beato. You know we forgot

908
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: about tongue tongue. He's fucking awesome too. Like I started

909
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: the production deal, I mean, I started that production movement off,

910
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: you know, what I mean, Like from from I've Seen

911
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: a Man Die to My Mind playing, I did my

912
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 3: mind playing tricks by my I did my whole first

913
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: solo album by myself.

914
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: I did all of those beats except for maybe like.

915
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 3: Uh Bornier and I didn't do money in the Power,

916
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: and I didn't do He's Dead.

917
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 5: That was I think Simon did that. But I did

918
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: the rest of that ship. Okay, all right?

919
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: Listening to uh the ninety six Ghetto Boys the album

920
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: to Death do his part part? Yeah, read the credits.

921
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: I probably did all that ship, but about one and

922
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: two songs too. Man, putting together that production team, just

923
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: everybody collabing and making great music. I think that's how

924
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 3: you make great music. Yeah, you know, everybody's gotta gotta

925
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 3: want a jam. You know, everybody gotta have an input.

926
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: It can't be no fucking egos, you know what I mean,

927
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 3: Like I don't have an ego. Like, let's just let's

928
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: just cham, let's make the best record that we can make,

929
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: and then we'll argue about who did this ship.

930
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 5: The best win is over with the will let the

931
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: fans aside. I'm jumping around.

932
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: So the diary, what made you take ninety nine left balloons,

933
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: Yes for going down Drugs mixed total six. I love

934
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: that fucking song man.

935
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 5: The first Oh we all My uncle played the bass

936
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 5: on that ship.

937
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: So, like I'm telling you, my uncle Eddie is probably

938
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: the best musician that I've ever heard in my life.

939
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 5: And I don't like that motherfucker. Just do not get along?

940
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 5: Is that him playing based on join everything? Everything? Everything?

941
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: What's his full name so we can look him up,

942
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: Eddie Wilson. He's a bad motherfucker. He bad like Prince though,

943
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: but anything. He can play cheers and jam, but he blind,

944
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: he's bind and he's a fucking asshole, bro, not like

945
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: a blind man.

946
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 5: Like that's I'm fucked up too.

947
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: Like.

948
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 5: I don't like that motherfucker. That motherfucker don't like me,

949
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 5: so believe it at that. Sometimes the best collaborations are tension,

950
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He's fucking awesome, man, He's awesome.

951
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: He's to hear him compliment the same thing.

952
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: Remember that that show This Is Your Life where they

953
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: would bring on different people from your past.

954
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 4: Yes, like he should be a contestant exactly, just bring

955
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 4: keep bringing on all the people you hate.

956
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 5: Sure now will fly you out now we'll bring you out.

957
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: Bro. So did you, I mean, at least with the Diary,

958
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: did you feel as though like that was your that

959
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: let me tell you what happened with the between the

960
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: Diary and the world is yours?

961
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so.

962
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: The world is George? Were smoking like regular dirt ass weed.

963
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: I heard the story before when we got to fucking California,

964
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: talk about it.

965
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 5: Who was smoking? That ship? That has you?

966
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: Like? So that that was that was not going balloons?

967
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 7: Wow, that's called the chronic that ship.

968
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 5: That's what that ship was mean. It made you feel different,

969
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 5: so it made you think different.

970
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: So when you felt different and you it made you

971
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: think and it played different, it was like, Wow, that's

972
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: when ship started jamming.

973
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 5: I think I think it was the weeds Man. Yeah.

974
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: What question I always had for you with going from

975
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 3: the Diary to the Untouchable, Like it seemed like your

976
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: production just stepped up level.

977
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Taller bad Man Man, south Side south Side that

978
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 5: was my record on that. Wow. Yeah. But Mike mixed.

979
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: Mike was he He mixed, and he mixed a lot

980
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: of those albums, and he played on a lot of

981
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: those albums. But the production and the the mixing and

982
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: the mastering of those albums right there for second and nothing. Nah, yeah,

983
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 3: you could hear it it whatever it was, Like, Wow,

984
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: do you I mean, do you as far as you

985
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: being on everyone's like top ten list and and.

986
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 5: You know this level of respect that you get, do

987
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: you feel.

988
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: Do you feel valued or like, I mean, I've never

989
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: read about you like getting to beef with other rappers,

990
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: and I'm into the level that it was with during

991
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: that period of the East Coast, West Coast and this

992
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: and that you were sort of like the you were

993
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 3: Switzerland almost like you were the happy medium. Like, but

994
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: did you feel as though like I should be getting

995
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: more of respect like I pioneered?

996
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 5: Nah? Man, I'm cool. Man. I like this. I like

997
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 5: being down here on ground level.

998
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: I like being able to come out to Austin and

999
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: walk back out through the crowd, take a few pictures,

1000
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: and take my ass on back to my room. You know,

1001
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want a whole bunch of fucking

1002
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 3: people around me. You know, I don't need an entourage.

1003
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 3: I like being down here on ground level with everybody else,

1004
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: like treat me like regular people. All Right, I'm gonna

1005
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: ask you the cliche question that I hate journalists asking me,

1006
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: but because you're such a pioneer of the South, Uh,

1007
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: how do you feel now today that Southern culture is

1008
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: so ubiquitous now in hip hop where it's now well, no, no,

1009
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that it's it's the it's the gold standard,

1010
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: it's you know what. You know what run DMC's version

1011
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: of New York was for hip hop where everyone had

1012
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: to follow that template. Now Southern rap, especially with as

1013
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: far as Houston is concerned, Like, how do you do

1014
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: you feel some sort of way about it now or

1015
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: the way that the culture has reinterpret or evolved?

1016
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 5: Is it evolved or has it regressed?

1017
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm asking Let me let me

1018
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: let me finish though, Let me finish, because I feel

1019
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: like like when when when we first got started, it

1020
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: was impossible to break in New York. It was nobody

1021
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: in Peelly fucked with us, you know, but Scarfaces back

1022
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: was then I got Then I got love? Yeah, then

1023
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: I got love. But everything sounds everybody had their own identity,

1024
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 3: though everybody now sounds like one big long a record,

1025
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: like everything sounds exactly the Internet. We can probably blame

1026
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: the Internet for the inter neutralized undefeated. Yeah, it's it's

1027
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 3: killed in regionalism. You can't tell who's from where. Everyone

1028
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 3: sounds the same.

1029
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 7: It's funny you say about regionalism because literally I was

1030
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 7: talking to a good friend of mine from I'm from DC,

1031
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 7: but we were talking about him, I know, and we

1032
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 7: were talking about your relationship with DC because he was like,

1033
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 7: you know, in light of the anniversary of celebrating of

1034
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 7: Biggi's death, He's like, for DC, dudes, we weren't really

1035
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 7: in that pop versus Biggie thing. For us, it was

1036
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 7: Scarface then number one because he came to d C

1037
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 7: and he performed with go go bands that you still

1038
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 7: do to this day to day. Yeah, but can you

1039
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 7: to speak to that in that relationship, and it goes

1040
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 7: to the regionalism and relationships with different markets like that.

1041
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: I like. I like the idea of d C having

1042
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 3: his own identity man like d C never swapped out

1043
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 3: and went nowhere else.

1044
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 5: There was always Go Go you know, you had some

1045
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: you have some dope ass rappers out of there, you know.

1046
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: But but mainly the music in d C, like Backyard

1047
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: can have an r E can have a show in

1048
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: d C and sell the fucking place out. They don't

1049
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: need no rapper in it. They don't need no big names.

1050
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: They are the big name. And the whole fucking play

1051
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: is from from wall to wall and singing the song.

1052
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn ship, I'm glad I didn't close.

1053
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah nah, it's d C is like me in d

1054
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 3: C is like Frankie Beverly in New Orleans, like he

1055
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: can always go there and get a check, right.

1056
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 7: DC just said it's like bevery Frankie Beverly in d C,

1057
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 7: because you know we claim him too, just like we

1058
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 7: claim y'all.

1059
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 5: Yeah he is he is. Yeah, you're sure, right, but

1060
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: man like yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

1061
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 5: no no, you're phelly.

1062
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 7: So why you I was born and raised in DC.

1063
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 7: I got a rep and that's what it is. O.

1064
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 5: Mother, Yeah, I see so, mother. As far as it

1065
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: progressing or progressing.

1066
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: Just.

1067
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: Do you feel some sort of way about I do?

1068
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 5: Or are you indifferent? Now? Like okay, well no, it's

1069
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 5: not my turn turn anymore.

1070
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: Oh I don't care about it be in my turn,

1071
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: But I still want to hear dope music though.

1072
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 7: All right, what's the last dope new thing you heard?

1073
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: And you was like, all right, fucking Kendrick Lamar, love Me,

1074
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: Love Me, Like, yeah, Like that's dope to me, man.

1075
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 7: What did you think about that? The soundtrack? Just not

1076
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 7: just to you know, I'm just curious soundtrack have you

1077
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 7: heard that? Since you said Kendrin Lamar, you know, it's

1078
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 7: kind of revolutionary in nature in a way. I mean

1079
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 7: for what he's saying and it being such a Marvel film,

1080
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 7: and you know, some people would feel like that.

1081
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 5: I'm proud of that that film too.

1082
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: By the way, I like the Black Panther film and

1083
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: I like the performance of it too. Back on on

1084
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: the do I feel like fucked up?

1085
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: Uh?

1086
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean I wish that everybody had their own identity, bro,

1087
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: you know, I wish that people would just if if

1088
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: see his it went like this, If quest Love did

1089
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: your ship, then you knew his production. If Dray did

1090
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: your shit, you knew his production because they didn't sound alike.

1091
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: If Timberland digit shit, you knew you know, timbling, Oh man,

1092
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: that's timbling right there.

1093
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: You know what it was?

1094
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 7: Rock wild? Did you know y'all?

1095
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: No?

1096
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1097
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: And now it's like if Premiere digit shit, you know

1098
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 3: you know right now everything's so not like God Damn

1099
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: that gotta be so and so, so and so.

1100
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 5: No that so and so.

1101
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: Boys, shit, that sounded like so and so so because

1102
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: everybody sound like yeah, you know, and and it focks

1103
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: me up because it's no the beat's reality in music

1104
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: no more. Ain't nobody got there. They just fucked you know.

1105
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: Get you some strings, bro, But at the same time,

1106
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: get you an identity, man, because that ship you're doing

1107
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: is gonna last all of three or four years at best.

1108
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: All right, speak the truth. I do speak the truth.

1109
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: You have records that you heard two years ago that

1110
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: are irrelevant now and the artist is like, ship.

1111
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 7: Were going right, right, all said designer. I thought about

1112
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 7: it was.

1113
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 5: Funny the beast was pumping. Ain't that something?

1114
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: What ll say with that?

1115
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 5: See what it was over.

1116
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 7: Or on?

1117
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 5: Cheesy? No, No, what's something? He said the beasts? Ain't

1118
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: that something? Anyway?

1119
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: That ship is you know, I want to I want

1120
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: to have a career, man, and I want I want

1121
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: to build careers man. So one thing I was going

1122
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: to ask you, what is the what is the process

1123
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: of you putting your albums together? Because I'll go on

1124
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: record as saying you are the most consistent rapper in

1125
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 3: terms of your albums, like you are the most consistent

1126
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 3: album making cat like ever, like all your records.

1127
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 5: And I mean straight up like all your records. It's

1128
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a ride.

1129
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 3: You just put it on. You ain't about skipping nothing. Yeah,

1130
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 3: I try to do that. That's intentional. Okay, So what's

1131
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 3: that that's intentional?

1132
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 5: Cue? So what's that process? I don't decide what makes it?

1133
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: What doesn't that feel?

1134
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 5: Man? That vibe? You know? I mean, do you work

1135
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 5: on twenty five songs and then say like here's my.

1136
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 3: Final Every every every every every punches is calculated to kill.

1137
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: Every bullet is a shot, it's gonna it's there to

1138
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 3: do damage. So if I'm gonna start on the record

1139
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna finish that record, the I can spend

1140
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: a week on the record. I have a question about

1141
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: your just your your your style of m seeing. I'll

1142
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 3: say that you're probably also one of them. I mean

1143
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 3: not to say that most of the figures in hip

1144
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: hop are caricatures, but but curricatures a curricature.

1145
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 5: Who was right?

1146
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: But I will say that you, I mean on surface,

1147
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: you'll you know again someone that that's not baptized and

1148
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: hip hop will just take agander and just say like whatever,

1149
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: they're just spinning gangster ship. But you know, you a

1150
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: lot of your approach to your your your your song

1151
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: structure and your lyrics deal with like you having a conscience,

1152
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: you you uh expressing regret, you really having three dimensional

1153
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: thoughts of these things. And it's it's almost like therapeutic.

1154
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: I know that you've gone on public record about dealing

1155
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: with depression and and and that in your life. How

1156
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: and especially I guess with the black people, we never

1157
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: we were never too vulnerability. Yeah, like we were always

1158
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: guarded about the idea of therapy or or that sort

1159
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: of thing, and and and dealing with depression. But you're

1160
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: going to can you speak on how like is writing?

1161
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: Are writing these songs your way of doing that when you're.

1162
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 5: Because you've been mad vulnerable on your stuff. So it's it's.

1163
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: You know, we're praising Jay Z right now for for

1164
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: four like at the end of his career, but you

1165
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: were always want that. I want to give a shout

1166
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: out to my teacher that taught me how to write,

1167
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: you know, Ms McClusky. She taught me how to write,

1168
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: and she she always said that your story had to

1169
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: have Uh.

1170
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 5: The beginning.

1171
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: Uh was it a climax?

1172
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 5: You know the topic?

1173
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: It was a piece of statement, She'll kill me if

1174
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: I didn't know this ship. It was.

1175
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 5: She listened, She's dead Like he didn't either rich or

1176
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 5: she did?

1177
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was like in the third or fourth grade.

1178
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 3: But it had to have a a beginning, a body

1179
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 3: of climax, and an ending. So that's how I wanted

1180
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 3: to always address, you know, a step to my right,

1181
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: And that's how I wanted to do my right.

1182
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 5: And I always wanted to write about something.

1183
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 3: I always wanted you to feel that shit and oh

1184
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: my god, and then I always wanted to end it right.

1185
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: But most of them sees like Biggie himself will say

1186
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 3: that a lot of his narrative was based on what

1187
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 3: his friend said. Okay, well it didn't happen to me,

1188
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna tell a story about you know what,

1189
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 3: what my friends talk about.

1190
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 5: And I put in the story for him. But you're like,

1191
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 5: I believes that all of your narrative was I was

1192
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 5: there in that motherfucking room. Huh yeah, but what is

1193
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 5: it true?

1194
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 7: Is that true? I? And maybe because sometimes you you

1195
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 7: have to look at it like art.

1196
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 5: So I just figured, don't recall. Yeah, you can't claim

1197
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 5: all the stuff that he's Let's just say that I

1198
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 5: have witnessed a lot of ship in my time of dying.

1199
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 5: How do you process that without getting numb?

1200
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 3: Because that's it's not normal to see, like, it's not

1201
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: normal to see that much tragedy occur. I'm numb to

1202
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 3: the point until I only feel fucked up when something

1203
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: bad happens to kids now, I mean like babies and ship,

1204
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: Like when when old people dying ship, I don't even

1205
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: give a fuck no more. If old people died, then

1206
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: they made it like I'm talking about over fucking you mean, yeah, oh.

1207
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just playing. I'm not serious. I'm not serious.

1208
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, black, if you're old as fuck man and

1209
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 3: you're a mean bastard, then fuck you goodbye.

1210
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 5: I can't wait for you to die.

1211
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: You why are you looking at me?

1212
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 4: I mean I feel the same way as somebody you

1213
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 4: were looking at me like I'm mad.

1214
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 3: Well, you've always been very open about your struggle with

1215
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 3: like depression and like bipolar disorder. How do you cope

1216
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: with that?

1217
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 5: Now?

1218
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: Shit, I know how to get in the box, I

1219
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 3: know how to get out the way. Man, go in

1220
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: my room, you know, go to my I can stay

1221
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 3: in the house for weeks.

1222
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 5: Man, you stay.

1223
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 7: Do you think we're in a new era with mental health?

1224
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 7: We can really have these conversations because I feel like

1225
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 7: now like we weren't having these like ten to fifteen

1226
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 7: years ago, we weren't talking about bipolar. It was crazy

1227
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 7: Uncle did so, we weren't really dominating.

1228
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 5: And they gave that shit a name, and they gave

1229
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 5: it some dope.

1230
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 7: Too different, all kinds of guess sir, to.

1231
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 5: Prescribe you some drugs.

1232
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 7: Fucking it's true, but it is something to it. Correct.

1233
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 5: There's nothing to it.

1234
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 7: Man.

1235
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 3: Either you want to fucking die or you don't like

1236
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You're fucking happier, you're sad?

1237
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 5: Bro. Have you gone to therapy? Yeah?

1238
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 3: I did two years in the fucking hospital when I

1239
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 3: was a kid. You know, just back and forth. You

1240
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: get to the level four and then they let you

1241
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 3: out and then you back down at the fucking uh

1242
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 3: pre pre level one or some ship you know that

1243
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 3: ain't ship. Can't nobody make you feel don't feel know

1244
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: they had uh I had meloyal and lithium.

1245
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 7: See, I know something about giving young kids back in

1246
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 7: the days lithium.

1247
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: And but but the thing is anything for me to

1248
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: write you a prescription. Man, I'm down all this motherfucker's crazy.

1249
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: Let's give him some dope. And I don't think that's

1250
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: the best I don't think that's the best uh antidote

1251
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: for that. I don't think that's the best fix, you

1252
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, I think that a good

1253
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: ass ass whooping will straightened all of that ship.

1254
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 5: I expected.

1255
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 7: I thought you was going to say, like a lifestyle change,

1256
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 7: like you got a.

1257
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 5: Kid that time out, man.

1258
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: And if your kid is is like, uh, your kid

1259
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 3: has artistm then I understand, but don't let them dope

1260
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 3: them up.

1261
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: But and if your kid is like like my uncle.

1262
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 3: I got an uncle, right, and they don't give him

1263
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: no medicine and he's the coolest fuck laughing.

1264
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 7: Don't look over here.

1265
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1266
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I don't laugh you man.

1267
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 5: That fucking makes me mad.

1268
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: Bro, I don't want to make you bad.

1269
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 7: But when you said I was trying to understand what

1270
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 7: you said when you got the BB.

1271
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: But you just need a fucking ass whipping man, Like

1272
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 3: if you're fucking sucking up in school, man.

1273
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 5: Kicked that kid in his ass. They took corporal punishment

1274
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 5: out of school, so you fucked your kids up.

1275
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 7: Now, see, we just had this whole conversation where Bazzario

1276
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 7: Dawson about beating your kids and seeing.

1277
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: That his mother fucking ass. Listen, look at me, look

1278
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,879
Speaker 3: at me, do it. I got my ass beat.

1279
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 5: Kid.

1280
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 7: No, don't do that.

1281
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 3: You look at the average sixteen year old now, and

1282
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 3: he's way worse than I ever will. Yeah, I was

1283
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 3: bad as fuck, but I never told my mom to

1284
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: fuck off.

1285
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 7: How about that?

1286
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 5: I never I never fought my dad.

1287
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 7: How about that?

1288
01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 5: Calm down.

1289
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 3: I never crush my grandma out, Like, definitely, connect man,

1290
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 3: you got to take that fucking board.

1291
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 7: But I also been communication opinions.

1292
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 5: Now, okay, I'm the guy. Why you why do you

1293
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 5: give me the side out before I give the opinion?

1294
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 7: Like because you got beatens? But go ahead, I know

1295
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 7: you got the whooping.

1296
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all got.

1297
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: I was ready would be a great guy.

1298
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's also a downside to that as well,

1299
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 3: you know, don side to getting your ass whooped.

1300
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I did the right thing, but I also

1301
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 5: had a very strange relationship with my dad. You know,

1302
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 5: so he was trying to take something out on you.

1303
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 5: You should let your mama whoop your.

1304
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: Like back then, like back then in the seventies and

1305
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: the eighties when we were growing up. You grew up

1306
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: in the seventies, Yes, seventies, al right, cool, So back

1307
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 3: then it was like our dad had like some real

1308
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 3: pressure that was undermand If it wasn't, it was like

1309
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 3: Bill's mama tripping.

1310
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 5: I'm a be this nigga asked me. That's how you're right,

1311
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 5: beat your motherfucking ass.

1312
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: As soon as I get home and hang up, you

1313
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 3: can't beep him call him back because he ain't got

1314
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: no self.

1315
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 5: It's like some different ship, like you gotta.

1316
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 3: Wait on the right and you don't even know that

1317
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: gonna come. You hear the door closing, ship and they

1318
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 3: talking and in the room and ship.

1319
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 5: Go to sleep.

1320
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 3: You're like, pretty god, you're get in the bathtub and

1321
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 3: ship as soon as you walking out that bath to

1322
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: hit his motherfucker come wow, right, you're laughing. But that

1323
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 3: that was basically like, I know, put that ass whopping

1324
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 3: and listen, man, the ass whooping.

1325
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 5: Help man.

1326
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 3: And now that I'm older and I realize how important

1327
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: those ass whoopings were I'm cool with it, and I

1328
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 3: know that. Can't nobody make me feel how I don't.

1329
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 3: If I'm not happy, then fucking I'm not happy. Who

1330
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: the mean ship? Get out my fucking room. Mom not

1331
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 3: knows words, but I don't want to.

1332
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't. So no more drug prescriptions for

1333
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 5: no more lithium at the age except.

1334
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: And this episode of Quest Love Supreme is brought to

1335
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:13,480
Speaker 2: you by ass Whoopings.

1336
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, we've got a couple of episodes.

1337
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 3: We had a couple of.

1338
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 5: Anyway, get there. You got half a jam, that's all

1339
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 5: fun take man?

1340
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yo, all right, so I got some like rap

1341
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 3: nerd rap up questions. Yes, what happened to too Low,

1342
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: funky little nigga?

1343
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 5: The fucking system got him?

1344
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: Oh really?

1345
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1346
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 3: I think that he would introduced to a to a

1347
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: lot of grown people ship at such an early age.

1348
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: Until the ship that he thought that he could get

1349
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 3: away with, he wasn't smart enough to, you know, get

1350
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 3: away with You know, we were smart enough to get

1351
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 3: away with that shit because we were grown.

1352
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 5: But you can't be fucking.

1353
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 3: Fourteen years old and smoking, eating, uh, stealing police cars

1354
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: and go to jail like shit. Okay, to too Much Trouble.

1355
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: It's a lot of twos. That's a lot of twos.

1356
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: I think one of the brothers in Too Much Trouble passed.

1357
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what Drunk is doing right now.

1358
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 5: I do know that.

1359
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: Uh, what's the little dude's name? Yeah, he's a maintenance

1360
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: man now, but he was a maintenance man choice.

1361
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 5: I don't know. I haven't seen her in a long

1362
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 5: ass time. I mean.

1363
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 3: We didn't. We spoke on it briefly. How did you

1364
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: get in touch or how did you bring Devin the dude?

1365
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 3: What was y'all's history, Like Devin dude in the Odd Squad?

1366
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 3: So Devin So the Ods Squad had an album on

1367
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: Rap a Lot, Fat Enough Everybody, Fat Enough Everybody, and

1368
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 3: that was the best fucking album I had ever heard,

1369
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 3: and I don't think that it did what they wanted

1370
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: it to do.

1371
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 5: So the Odd Squad was kind of on the back burner.

1372
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 3: I took Devin out of the Odd Squad and put

1373
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: him in Face Mob, remember the group I had, Face Mob.

1374
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: I produced an album on Face Mob and then that

1375
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: did great, and we doubled back and I wanted to

1376
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: do a solo album on Devin. I did Devon's first

1377
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 3: sold alb you know that you did. Yeah, I did

1378
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 3: not know that.

1379
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 5: I did that album and it was it was Devon

1380
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 5: and the name of the album was.

1381
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 3: But they started. Yeah, y'all, I fucking pioneered that whole

1382
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 3: picture in the bathroom booble and and all that shit

1383
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 3: we did. We even did a commercial, bro. If you

1384
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 3: get a chance to look up the fucking commercial.

1385
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 5: It is the.

1386
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 3: Funniest ship in the world of him in the bathroom. Yes,

1387
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: Lord is Ellie Jackson. Yeah, it's an actual video of

1388
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 3: him getting out of the truck and it's just funny

1389
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: as hell.

1390
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 5: That was dope, man.

1391
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 3: We we we sat down and we did an album

1392
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 3: on Devin the Dude, and the rest was history. He's

1393
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 3: the funniest kid I know.

1394
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 7: Like, he's funny as Funds.

1395
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:20,480
Speaker 5: Still is great man, and he smokes so much weed.

1396
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 7: That's awesome. And he's still productive. I I herald people

1397
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 7: like that.

1398
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 5: Look at Steve picture of productivity of it.

1399
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 3: For sure. I like him. I had a question about

1400
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: Lord j. He speaks on it. It's on the intro

1401
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: of I think it's Emeritus the Mayor's album. He speaks

1402
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 3: on the Little Troy situation. What exactly is that?

1403
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 5: I don't know, man.

1404
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 3: You know, me and Troy record sound our differences? Man, Okay,

1405
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: he said some things about me that weren't true, and

1406
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 3: you know he had to fix that. So you know,

1407
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: me and Troy cool? Y'all good?

1408
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 5: Now? Yeah? We all right?

1409
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 3: Okay, word up.

1410
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,520
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know what him and Jay's relationship

1411
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 5: is with me and Troy? All right? Okay, yop.

1412
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 7: What's it required in the twenty eighteen to get a

1413
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 7: scarface feature?

1414
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 5: I don't feel like it really. The last record I

1415
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: heard joint, well, the up front.

1416
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 3: In terms of newcasts, you on the Freddy Gibbs record,

1417
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 3: the uh Freddy Gibson mad Lip Joint.

1418
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was on that one.

1419
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, cal you did a cal And record?

1420
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, but now I'm tired, man.

1421
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 7: So whoever got that got in this is a wrap?

1422
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 5: Yeah? And then uh fucking thought, wait hold on, he said.

1423
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 5: He said a lot of people retired that day. Man, wait,

1424
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 5: wait all right.

1425
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 3: So to told me when I told him I was

1426
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 3: coming down, he said, ask no, sir, what happened in

1427
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 3: the studio? He said, you walked away like left, he said,

1428
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 3: and quote he said, Brad come on.

1429
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 5: He grabbed his sons, like get out of here. Like

1430
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 5: he just walked out the studio.

1431
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: I heard his new ship.

1432
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh my god, which one to join us?

1433
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: All of the streams of thought, Oh my god. I'm

1434
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 3: purposely not letting people know what's happened with the roots.

1435
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 3: But a lot of things, a lot of things are

1436
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 3: about to happen in twenty eighteen. Boy, But whatever he

1437
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: heard just made him walk out.

1438
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 7: But you was supposed to bless it. He supposed blessing,

1439
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 7: but supposed blessed.

1440
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 5: He was just what he does. One of you're one

1441
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 5: of his heroes. He's my hero, but you're his hero. Like, no, no,

1442
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 5: he's my hero.

1443
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,520
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll just sit here all day and say you're

1444
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: cool with that, But I'm not going to go in

1445
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: there fucking with that, going there fucking with him. And

1446
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm warning every rapper no, no, no, no, no.

1447
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 5: No, because the thing is is that what isolated, this

1448
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 5: is what isolated his first twenty years. We're trying to

1449
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 5: we're trying to.

1450
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm probably the only one that kind of like was

1451
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 3: scared of that ten minute freestyle because I was like, no, man,

1452
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 3: because then everybody going there, like, wasn't I wouldn't give

1453
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 3: them they were doing that? Was that was their excuse,

1454
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: like that man said, because like because Jay kind of said.

1455
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's scary, you're scared.

1456
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 5: I mean, it's one thing.

1457
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 3: It's one thing, like the whole I mean, first of all,

1458
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: na Is ruined everything with that, so that that line

1459
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 3: alone made people paranoid about getting killed on their own ship.

1460
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 3: And it's like the only time you're really going to

1461
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 3: stand next to someone is if they can do something

1462
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 3: for you, as far as help you raise your profile,

1463
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: if you get if you get like out run by

1464
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: somebody that has nobody or nobody, don't really do nothing

1465
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: for you. But and even though he's every rapper's favorite rappers,

1466
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 3: technically like he's in every man nobody category.

1467
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 5: And it's like I can't afford to take an L

1468
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 5: from someone that.

1469
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 7: I'm more famous, more famous than right.

1470
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 5: It ain't even about the L with me. It's like, no,

1471
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 5: but he wants he wants to play and reindeer games.

1472
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 3: And it's like a lot of the times cats will

1473
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: just say, like, I mean, the reason why it's a big.

1474
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 5: I don't feel like here's the thing, you know, how

1475
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 5: you got it.

1476
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: The motherfucker's the champ and then you got the number

1477
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 3: one contender and the tamp don't want to fight him.

1478
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 5: That's what to reach.

1479
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 3: That's what he faced with right now because the motherfucker

1480
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 3: that's on top, whoever he is, whoever he may be.

1481
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 7: Want to get a ring, want to king the situation.

1482
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 3: What that boy said about that bulling side, the China

1483
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: China bulling China shop.

1484
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's I want I want to be I

1485
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 5: want him to play rain there game.

1486
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna happen, and it's not on him,

1487
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 3: it's on I'm.

1488
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 5: Gonna do a record with him. Oh god, I'm gonna

1489
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 5: do a record with him. Yeah, for sure. He I

1490
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 5: want that, I want definitely all right.

1491
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 7: Oh damn, I should have take that send so.

1492
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 5: He can make sure we're taping an episode right now. Yeah,

1493
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 5: I'm definitely.

1494
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 3: He's so fucking dope man, until you know, well, he

1495
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 3: appreciates that because you're definitely one of his his rhyming heroes.

1496
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 3: He's one of he is my rhyming hero. Is it

1497
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 3: true that you and Sleepy Brown? At one point we're

1498
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 3: gonna do a blues record.

1499
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 5: Damn, wow ship. I don't know, but does I like

1500
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 5: to How did you hear about that room?

1501
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 3: It was if I read it somewhere. I can't remember,

1502
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 3: but I remember. I think maybe it was an interview.

1503
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 3: I think maybe it was a sleepy interview something. But

1504
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: he bentioned something about you and him. You know who

1505
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 3: sleepy daddy is? Oh yeah, Jimmy Brown from Brick from

1506
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: Brick right, yeah, yeah, dope right, his daddy's so dope. Man, Like,

1507
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 3: so Brick was my he wrote like like three is

1508
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 3: my hero and I met them on the Time Joined

1509
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 3: the Cruise.

1510
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 5: Man, and.

1511
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 7: Damn, I'm sorry, I'm black.

1512
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 5: If you see it was.

1513
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: Hey be ill Yeah, okay, wait man, that you're gonna

1514
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 3: enjoy that ship, bro, you should. So Brick was on

1515
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: the tom Joining the Cruise Show, not the Tom Join

1516
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 3: the Cruise Show.

1517
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 5: The Cruise Fantastic Boys. He was one of the fantastic voices.

1518
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: Man. If I tell you that they jam like a month,

1519
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 3: I gotta see it. No, it's like I have a

1520
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: day job, Like I can't go on cruises the time.

1521
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 3: Joining the Cruise is a party that lasts from six

1522
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: in the morning to six in the morning to six

1523
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 3: in the morning to six in the morning for seven

1524
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 3: fucking days for.

1525
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 7: All the white people. Time join is very popular. Black

1526
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 7: radio personality was very rich and been doing radio for

1527
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 7: about thirty years. And does this cruise and all the

1528
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 7: black people know about it.

1529
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 3: And when.

1530
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 5: I do.

1531
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 3: Sh when when you get off that cruise is when

1532
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:47,959
Speaker 3: your vacation starts. Because she fucking whipped it's crazy.

1533
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 5: Du well you know that.

1534
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 3: Who are you? Who? Do you have any like buddies

1535
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 3: that you golf with? Now I read that you're into

1536
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: like golfing pretty heavy, man.

1537
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 5: I played.

1538
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 3: I used to play golf a lot with a famous

1539
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 3: NBA player man that is no longer with us with

1540
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 3: us man, and uh much love to Moses Malone. Moses

1541
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 3: Malone was a bad motherfucker. He couldn't golf work the ship,

1542
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: but he was.

1543
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 5: I played with.

1544
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

1545
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 3: You know, Johnny Gill got a hell of a golf game, man,

1546
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: fucking black sheep, uh.

1547
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 5: Mean ass golf game. Arian Foster got a decent golf game. Ship.

1548
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,839
Speaker 3: I know I'm playing so dope sache the entertainer garbage,

1549
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: all the clothes, none of the game. Joe Tory trash can.

1550
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 5: Nah.

1551
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 3: These them my partners man, they got a pretty decent game.

1552
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: Who else do I play golf with?

1553
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1554
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 3: I played golf with a lot of old men. Oh

1555
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 3: you know who you know who can play the funk

1556
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 3: out of some golf Clyde Drexler bro.

1557
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 5: I can believe that. Yeah, yeah, don't funk with Clyde.

1558
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 3: If you see Clyde on the golf course, don't even

1559
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 3: don't even ask that mother fucking for a picture.

1560
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 5: Just walk the other way.

1561
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 7: You drink what you do when you go. You got

1562
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 7: like a whole because I know some people like serious.

1563
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 7: You just you don't even have a cocktail.

1564
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 5: You know, I want to bet gambling. Don't fuck with me.

1565
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 5: Don't talk. If you're gonna talk and play music, get

1566
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 5: in your own card. Don't funk with me.

1567
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 7: I want to go golfing.

1568
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 3: What the gulls want to ask you about your relationship

1569
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 3: with you? GK You did the Candy record on the

1570
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 3: album Dude, I love that song.

1571
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 5: I did that record?

1572
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 3: Is that you playing guitar on that boom boom boom

1573
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 3: boom boom boom boom that's actually a keyboard what boom

1574
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 3: boom boom boom and play that ship?

1575
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 5: Wow?

1576
01:24:55,640 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: Oh and that's that's that sample is from the Newness

1577
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 3: Is Gone Eddie Eddie Hendrick. Yeah, I didn't know that

1578
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 3: it was as samble, but you see how fucking manipulated

1579
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: flick flipped.

1580
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 5: It and mansked and made it dope.

1581
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that record. Man, have you? Are you

1582
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 3: and Bunny y'all still like whatever?

1583
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 5: Y'allo?

1584
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not working right now. He's been calling me

1585
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 3: about doing a record. But like I said, I'm retired, man,

1586
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: I am read No, I was retired from rapple out

1587
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 3: after emeritis.

1588
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, Michael makes sense.

1589
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,919
Speaker 3: Okay, that was the wink.

1590
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 5: I'm trying to translate to our radio audience. There was

1591
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 5: a wink in there somewhere. It's like to retire and

1592
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 5: and and still hold the position like it's scar facy mirror,

1593
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 5: just like how would How was j Prince when you

1594
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 5: did the one record when you did.

1595
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 3: To Fix on Death Jam? How did he take that?

1596
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 5: How did that happened? I wasn't signed a rapper up,

1597
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 5: oh so I was. I was free to go.

1598
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 3: And what made you come back?

1599
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 5: Business decision? No I did.

1600
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 3: I did an album and that album was successful, and

1601
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 3: then I did another one and that album was successful too, So.

1602
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 5: That was that. Now I'm enjoying my independence. I love

1603
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 5: being I love being a partner with myself.

1604
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have what was what was the How serious

1605
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 3: was the def Jam South and you being the president

1606
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: of the label?

1607
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 5: Like, how serious was it?

1608
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 6: Well?

1609
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 5: Every time I saw you were in business mode, So

1610
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 5: I I had I had a hell of a staff man.

1611
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 5: I didn't even have to do ship.

1612
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: But uh, but mastermind, like, the best way to spend

1613
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 3: this money, you know, the best way to roll some

1614
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: ship out, the best way to.

1615
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 5: What was it? To not spend a lot of money

1616
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 5: doing ship? So you signed luted to Depth Jam?

1617
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 3: Correct? I did?

1618
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 5: What was it about him that you saw that? Hands?

1619
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 5: Hands off? He did it.

1620
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 3: He was already there, and that was a great way

1621
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 3: to springboard what I was trying to do. You know,

1622
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: he was already I think he was thirty forty thousand

1623
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 3: records already.

1624
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 5: The first was it one hundred? Yeah?

1625
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: The Rabbit Nah? That was well, yeah, that was the first,

1626
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 3: but the first album it was incog negro And that's

1627
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 3: why he called the Depth Jam back for the first time. Yeah,

1628
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 3: I was shooting the World War two, a World War

1629
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 3: three video with Swiss and yeah, and we was way

1630
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 3: out somewhere. I don't know, we were in Long Island

1631
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,799
Speaker 3: or something. We was way out, way out, and Shaka

1632
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: was saying, yeah, we get ready to go to meet

1633
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 3: with this label so and so so on, and so

1634
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 3: I can't say, man, but I was like, man, before

1635
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 3: you sign, man, please come see me bro. And we

1636
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: talked and I relayed, you know, and conveyed to the

1637
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: powers that beat it, that's what I wanted to do first,

1638
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 3: and they made that happen. So the rest from there

1639
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 3: is history. So Ludi is a star.

1640
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 7: Was he kind of like the perfect artist since he

1641
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 7: came from radio and he'd already had the other record,

1642
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 7: Like you.

1643
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 5: Gotta be a strategist to think like this, but somebody

1644
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 5: was on the same page, you know. Yeah, but I

1645
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 5: love Luda man.

1646
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: He did his thing, and you know, it put me

1647
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: in a different light in people's eyes, Like I'm not

1648
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 3: only can I rap or make beats and ship, but

1649
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a masterfucking planner too.

1650
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 5: I got a bucket list, wrap up questions, but.

1651
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I got oh rap at question,

1652
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 3: big mic, Where's what's still him?

1653
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 5: I haven't seen Mike Man.

1654
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: Uh. He was probably the dopest rapper on rap a

1655
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: Out in my opinion, or yeah, I think he was

1656
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 3: put him over you.

1657
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he was dope man. Did you his

1658
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 5: first Yeah?

1659
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: Something serious?

1660
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 5: I had that record? But you know who was singing

1661
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 5: fly holes and Pimp? Yeah? You know who song?

1662
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: Looked me in my eyes? Look on my song? Looked

1663
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 3: me in my eyes?

1664
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 5: Who was Pimp?

1665
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 3: Wow?

1666
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah? Man, Pim was called the spot. He really

1667
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 5: was big. Mic was dope man to me. Yeah, he

1668
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 5: had a voice. So when he came into Ghetto Boys

1669
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 5: for the I think it was the Death was it

1670
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 5: to Death?

1671
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 3: To his part album? Was y'all? Y'all still cool at

1672
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: that point? Like did you welcome him in? Like being

1673
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 3: on that record? Is another stranger in the group, right, Yeah,

1674
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 3: he's another stranger in the group. Man. Actually we were friends.

1675
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 3: He was in the Convicts first and you know three

1676
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: two three two it's dead.

1677
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 5: When did he pass?

1678
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 3: I won't say about a year ago. Man shot him

1679
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 3: in the back of the head ship. Yeah, his friend.

1680
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 3: He was walking out of the damn store and dude

1681
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 3: knocked my part in the head off. Man.

1682
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 5: Man. I then revel jenj Man.

1683
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm talking on a long ass time. I think you

1684
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 3: might be shooting movies or something though, Okay, speaking.

1685
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 5: Of which you're good. Yeah, can we get Judge. It's

1686
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 5: like a double gun jump in a b ill. Feel

1687
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 5: free to jump in, Okay, just like random names like

1688
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 5: my mother. Yeah, I did a record with her back

1689
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 5: in n Okay.

1690
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, Mike Judge, how did that relationship Mike Judge

1691
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 3: the Ghetto Boys fan believe it or.

1692
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 5: Not, I believe it or not. It was the first yeah,

1693
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 5: all through offic space, huge Ghetto Boys fan man.

1694
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 3: So we kind of met and hung out and I

1695
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 3: got a partner of the Theocracyocracy as upgrade two days,

1696
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 3: double dose in my Pamper. That's a funny, dude. Did

1697
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 3: you ever think that that film would be so relevant

1698
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 3: right now? It was made ten years old, right, yeah,

1699
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 3: for him, like making Bamboozo for me? No, yeah, like

1700
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 3: making Bamboozo back then, I was like, Spike's a little crazy.

1701
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 3: But now it's like Mike was right.

1702
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. Have any of you have anyview, seen or heard

1703
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 5: of Idiocracy? It was right here? How can you not

1704
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 5: know about?

1705
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 3: Idiot takes place in the not so distant future and

1706
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 3: it's about now a wrestler becomes president.

1707
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm close enough. Yeah, it's sort of the same thing.

1708
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So before we wrap the wrestler, before we wrap up,

1709
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 3: I just want to know, Uh, you've made so many

1710
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 3: appearances on everyone's what is your?

1711
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 5: What is your? In your opinion? Your your your top three?

1712
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 3: Cameos, well not cameos, even performance, but just good experiences

1713
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 3: of making records.

1714
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 5: Was it Park?

1715
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 3: Was it?

1716
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 5: Yeah? That was That was a bump.

1717
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 3: That was a fucking blast because you know, if you

1718
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 3: know too well, did you make Smile wild?

1719
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 5: All right? So he was.

1720
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 3: He was a damn fool in any setting, you know,

1721
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck. He was at a funeral on wedding. Well,

1722
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 3: he was a damn nut. So we got a chance

1723
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 3: to record Smile in l A at Larby, I believe.

1724
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 5: So you went out there.

1725
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 2: I was.

1726
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 3: I was in l A recording the Untouchable album, okay,

1727
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 3: and he came in a hummer. I was living at

1728
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 3: the oak Wood in Burbank. Anybody from California you know

1729
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 3: what that is, Barham?

1730
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, So.

1731
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 3: I heard we were and then this is the first time,

1732
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 3: like I said, we were smoking that ship and I

1733
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 3: heard somebody on the loudspeaker say, Brad.

1734
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 5: Jordan, we know you're in there. Come out with your

1735
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 5: hands up.

1736
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, I'm high. Motherfucking blew my high.

1737
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: Like shit, my cousin we sitting in the house scared

1738
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 3: and shitting my cousin. Pete got me and say, man,

1739
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:28,560
Speaker 3: that's pot we get dressed. Go downstairs, man, get my

1740
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 3: manager and ship and Pop was like, yeah, let's go

1741
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 3: to the studio make a song. I'm like, I'm cool

1742
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 3: with that. Say come on, get in. I'm like, now, sir, no, no,

1743
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna ride nowhere with Tupac record.

1744
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 5: Ever. For one, he didn't have a driver's license. For two,

1745
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 5: I knew for a fact that.

1746
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 3: He couldn't drive all right. So we followed him in

1747
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 3: the In the van he had a black Hummer. Let

1748
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 3: me tricked out her old school hummer, the old hum bees,

1749
01:33:59,280 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 3: and this is him.

1750
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 5: He's driving. Oh god. And if I'm not mistaken, he

1751
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 5: was by himself too, I think.

1752
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 3: So we went in there. Man, they laid it out.

1753
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: They had the all the he went and got all

1754
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 3: soul food and Henderson and shit. And now he I

1755
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 3: mean he really laid that shit out nice man, and

1756
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 3: we did the song, the Smile song. I laid a

1757
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 3: verse on and I left h and a couple of

1758
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 3: days later he came to the studio to play me

1759
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 3: the Macavelly record, and then after I listened to it,

1760
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, this is great. And he was like,

1761
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 3: come on, man, let's go and hit the Hollywood. They

1762
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 3: had what was that shit called the Hollywood something that

1763
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but it was like a club. And

1764
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I gotta finish, man, I gotta

1765
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 3: find a single park I can't.

1766
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 5: Man. Man, that man got mad. That's fucking me.

1767
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 3: He said, Man, you be sitting in here all motherfucking

1768
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 3: day long, man, trying to find a single.

1769
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 5: Man Like, that's stupid. Man, you're wasting your fucking time. Man.

1770
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 3: Just just just write a record, man, and and and

1771
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 3: get across to the bitches without offending them. Yeah.

1772
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 5: But he was right though. And the last word that

1773
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 5: you say, that's gonna be the name of the song.

1774
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 5: But that's how came to be.

1775
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 3: Well that's what. Yeah, that's how that's how I came

1776
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 3: to be. Because I don't spend a whole lot of

1777
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 3: time in the studio no more. I spend a whole

1778
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 3: lot of time, you know, making the album better, making

1779
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 3: the song better.

1780
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 5: You know.

1781
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 3: I don't waste my time trying to write a single

1782
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 3: no more, because I know that that ship is not

1783
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 3: gonna play no way. I'm just gonna jam. I think

1784
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 3: my ride coming all right, so can you give us

1785
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 3: a second one? Like what was Tupac was wanting? Okay,

1786
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 3: I think that this song that I did with I

1787
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 3: think that the guess whose back song was big for

1788
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 3: me too. I let me tell you why. Because I

1789
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 3: called Jay and I asked him to do a record

1790
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 3: with me, and they said, meet me at Baseline line.

1791
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 5: Come on. So we're playing the music that you know.

1792
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 3: Guru was playing tracks and jay Z he sat back

1793
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 3: in the corner and he listened to it, and so

1794
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 3: the next one and then the bak I said, and

1795
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 3: he be looking at you like, oh, like I better

1796
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 3: kill you. And then he went to the studio and

1797
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 3: he went in bocalboo and he took the ship right

1798
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 3: and he left. Let me stuck at the board. I'm

1799
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 3: sitting at the boy trying to write this ship and

1800
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 3: ended up getting it done and Kanye got on the record.

1801
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 3: But that was a Kanye beat believing it or not

1802
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 3: to guess who was back? That was Kanye. Kanye did

1803
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 3: the mast majority of the Fixed album too. If anybody

1804
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 3: reads credit, that was Kanye West.

1805
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 7: On that he did This can't be life too rate,

1806
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 7: because I was like that, this can't be life.

1807
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 5: He did that record too.

1808
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 7: Was that in real time? Your verse? In real time?

1809
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was walking and I was getting out of

1810
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 3: the car service and that shit happened, like, yeah, it's

1811
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 3: it's my buddy. Son got a hold to some hairin

1812
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 3: that his grandfather had in the car, and I don't

1813
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 3: know if he drunk it or.

1814
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 5: Swallowed in some kind of way, but that shit fucked

1815
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 5: me up pretty bad.

1816
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 3: And I said, I remember saying counting our blessings because

1817
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:02,560
Speaker 3: Brad's too well, Brad, it's twenty now, damn Yeah, I

1818
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 3: know that shit flew, didn't it eighteen?

1819
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brad just turned twenty on the fifth, so yeah,

1820
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 5: damn deep right. And the third one, man, I can't

1821
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 5: really remember a great time in the studio. I don't know.

1822
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 5: I think I saw I was.

1823
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: I went to the studio with Chris Brown and Dave Chappelle,

1824
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 3: and most death was in that motherfucker Wow.

1825
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 5: Wait, that's the.

1826
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 3: That's the oddest I ever heard. Yeah, and that was

1827
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 3: before the Chapelle Show too.

1828
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 7: What'd you doing the record?

1829
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck I was doing.

1830
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: Were you and Cuban the studio together when y'all did

1831
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 3: the Hand of the Dead Body record?

1832
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 7: Uh?

1833
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:56,759
Speaker 5: Maybe?

1834
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 3: But I know that Cube has to leave the studio,

1835
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 3: like he'll take the beat with him, okay, and come

1836
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 3: back to the next day and lay it. Okay, gotcha.

1837
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 3: I don't think he was a spontaneous writer at that time.

1838
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 3: I did a lot of records, but I was cue.

1839
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 3: That's one of my phase. Man, I love Yeah, that's

1840
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: my That's one of my phase.

1841
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 5: Man. I love cute.

1842
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 3: All right, I got one more, let's go ahead. Who

1843
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 3: came up with the concept for the video of My Block?

1844
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:24,799
Speaker 3: My Block?

1845
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 5: I don't even remember the guy's name, but I did

1846
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 5: want a seamless video. Yeah.

1847
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 3: I just wanted to go from one end of the

1848
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 3: street to the I wanted to show the whole entire street.

1849
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 3: I didn't want no cuts in the video. I just

1850
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 3: wanted to Was there any trick used it? And I

1851
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 3: used to watch It's no cuts? It was a railroad

1852
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 3: track and different scenes were set up. How many takes

1853
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 3: did it?

1854
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 5: Say? No, we did that ship all day.

1855
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 3: We went backwards and then forward, backward and then forward. Wow.

1856
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite videos.

1857
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 5: Man. Yeah. I think we shot that ship for like

1858
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 5: two days.

1859
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 3: Because we shot like the early part of it one day,

1860
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 3: and then we shot again the next day, and then

1861
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 3: we finished it that night.

1862
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So we got everything out the way I

1863
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 5: think we got it.

1864
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 3: I got more wrapped, like we we're good. I just

1865
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 3: want to say, man, just thank you for everything you've done.

1866
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 3: Just want to give you your flowers.

1867
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you, thank you for your honesty.

1868
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 5: Well, I'm really honest. I can't help it.

1869
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 3: Oh I did think so psp. Okay, So I told

1870
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 3: really decent years ago, and you can confirm the story

1871
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 3: if you were there. He said that at the intro

1872
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 3: of we can't be stopped where they where. It's like

1873
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 3: first we beat on the door, then we kicked them

1874
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 3: up again where the door gets kicked down. He said

1875
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 3: they actually kicked the door down in the studio to

1876
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 3: make that sound effect. I don't remember that, okay, all right,

1877
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: but I wasn't never in the studio with him though,

1878
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 3: So y'all did sometimes. Okay, Yeah, we had verses. I

1879
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 3: remember now if you listened to my uh the part

1880
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 3: on murder my reasons of insanity, Okay, when it goes up,

1881
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 3: that was a real.

1882
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was about to see y'all guns effects were like.

1883
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 3: Real because we went out to the ranch and shotguns

1884
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 3: and put them on Listen, man, we went out to

1885
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 3: the ranch and shotguns and put them on debts.

1886
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 5: Yes, ship, Yeah, I was gonna say that the sound of.

1887
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 3: Your guns were real. Yeah, they were a little too real.

1888
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 3: They were probably a little too real. Bro, Seriously, I'm

1889
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 3: good man. Anything Steve, anything, just play it one more time,

1890
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 3: just my well, No, I don't give him that ship.

1891
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 5: I would't give him anything. It's the only way to

1892
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 5: close the show. I would.

1893
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 3: I would end that ship like this right now and

1894
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 3: be done. I wouldn't give him anything. I told you

1895
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 3: I was mean as fuck.

1896
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, your your recollection.

1897
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you about your actual not

1898
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 2: what you're listening to. But you're like collect his records,

1899
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 2: still on your uncle's records or anything. You have a

1900
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 2: large record collection. That's my question. Seems he seems friendly.

1901
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 3: Have I have some ship I got you know what

1902
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 3: I do have that's like a great album to have.

1903
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 3: I have the Marvin Gaye. Hear my dear double album.

1904
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 3: I have that I can remember for sure. I got

1905
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 3: Pink Floyd Dogs out of the Moonship. I got Kissed

1906
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 3: double platinum, he scribbing that one.

1907
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 7: Look at these Vinyl snobs, you are not impressing him.

1908
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, well it sounds like he only has

1909
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 4: three records.

1910
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 5: Largers' hoping. But but you know what it's like, man,

1911
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 5: what are you? What are your five question?

1912
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 3: No? Because he seemed like a guy that top not

1913
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 3: even not even does an island. Because I feel like

1914
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 3: you need music to meditate in the calm you down

1915
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 3: sometimes and to zone out. So what do you What

1916
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 3: are the five records that you choose? What are your

1917
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 3: go to when you're driving in the car, Like you

1918
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: gotta hear this record? Uh? I like wrapped around your

1919
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 3: fingers a boy, the Police. I mean I like the

1920
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 3: synchronic of the album a lot. Yeah.

1921
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 5: I like the Marvin Gaye.

1922
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 3: Uh.

1923
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 7: Yes, you're going to your Pandora.

1924
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 3: I gotta go, Yeah, going to my ship. You know,

1925
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 3: Peter Peter Gabriel had a bomb ass and you know

1926
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 3: I go to that the sole album. But I think

1927
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 3: that like when when I really want to really ride

1928
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 3: and meditate, I turn on like Bob Marley's uh, I turned.

1929
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 5: On his whole ship, you know, from uh.

1930
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 3: Naturalistic to uh some man vibration of uh Peter Tosh,

1931
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 3: I meant something on I am?

1932
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 5: I am, I am, I have this sign up, mose ass.

1933
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 5: You can not move by tall like he was? Awesome?

1934
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 3: Man?

1935
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 5: Can I meant something on my sholf? Was that yo?

1936
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 3: As much as the music SNIW, but I am about

1937
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 3: these hundred thousand records. My Marley i Q is like

1938
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 3: devastatingly low.

1939
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 5: Wow.

1940
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 3: Well you two, Yeah, I know legend. That's like the

1941
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,959
Speaker 3: only one I know. Yes, I know legend, but that's about.

1942
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 5: Your eighties college student or nineties college student.

1943
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 3: Like that's the record. Yeah, no, all right, we're the

1944
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 3: last two. So synchronicity maybe so uh Mary mar Oh,

1945
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 3: then what's your last one? Hey man, midnight? All right,

1946
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm mess with you. All right, So ladies and gentlemen,

1947
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 3: please give it up for the one and only scar

1948
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 3: faced man. This is amazing. Thank you to the fine

1949
01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 3: folks at south By Southwest. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, thank you, Gatsby.

1950
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 3: I've been up there before. That's cool as hell up

1951
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:08,879
Speaker 3: the top there.

1952
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 5: We're all gonna get tattoos afterwards and walking again.

1953
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 3: I think that, I think that, I think that fucking

1954
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 3: cleansing pill is kicked in playing playing, playing, or we

1955
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 3: have of unpaid Bill Fonticolo. It's like he is Sugar

1956
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 3: Steve and the one only scar face. This is quest

1957
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 3: Love signing off. We will see you on the Mexican.

1958
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 5: Thank God West.

1959
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 1: Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

1960
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,560
Speaker 1: was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 5: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.