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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks, Thursday, March fifth, and the news just

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Speaker 1: keeps oncoming. Christinome is out. Welcome to this breaking news

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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ. Just wanted to hop on

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Speaker 1: because the news is just coming across. The Secretary of

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Speaker 1: might have been the most high profile faiths of the

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Speaker 1: administration in many days and weeks. She's been fired. No

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Speaker 1: other way to put this, is it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean she's been demoted. I think maybe would

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Speaker 2: be a better way to put it. But she, Yes,

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Speaker 2: she has been fired from the position. She has been

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Speaker 2: removed from the position of the Department of Homeland Security,

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Speaker 2: the secretary of DHS. She's now being given a position

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Speaker 2: that is well Son's made up to be honest, but

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and Christy Nome, we should let you know

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Speaker 1: this news is coming to us just a matter of

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Speaker 1: minutes before we hopped on here. But she still is

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Speaker 1: keeping a commitment she had in Nashville, Tennessee. She had

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Speaker 1: a live event and we can actually see a live

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Speaker 1: So she is continuing in the role, but it is

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Speaker 1: going to be over by the end of this month.

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome is the headline, folks. A Department of Homeland

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Speaker 1: Security Secretary Christie Nome is out. The President is replacing her,

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Speaker 1: putting her somewhere else. We do know. This is from

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Speaker 1: the President himself. We put out a pretty long post

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is going to replace Christy Nome with Senator

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. He is going to become

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Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security, but he does have to

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Speaker 1: Who knows about that. He's going to be going before

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Speaker 1: I kept trying to think of what the votes and

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Speaker 1: process is to come. But Rove, this is there a

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Speaker 2: And in recent days even the President had whispered, and

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Speaker 2: Christy Nome possibly might be replaced because the President the

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Speaker 2: final straw for him was he did not appreciate her

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Speaker 2: And she told Senator Kennedy, I believe that President Trump

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Speaker 1: And this is what the President said in a post

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Speaker 1: being replaced. Quote, I am pleased to announce the highly

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Speaker 1: respected United States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen, will become the United States Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Homeland Security THEHS, effective March thirty first, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: The current Secretary, Christy Nome, who has served us well

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Speaker 1: We are announcing on Saturday in durral Florida. I thank

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Speaker 1: Christy for her service at Homeland. Now. He has another

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Speaker 1: longer paragraph after that, but just talking about the new guy.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting at the top ropes. He didn't announce

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent, and you have to think that was by design.

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Speaker 2: He just wants her to go away. He doesn't want

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Speaker 3: That I really want you to focus on.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that other person.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's gone. We've got her in another position. That

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Speaker 1: I don't know TuS the Shield of the Americas. We

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Speaker 1: I guess she will too about what her new job is.

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Speaker 1: Does she have a say in this this job? Is

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Speaker 1: thank you for that gig.

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Speaker 2: But it is fascinating to watch her on this podium

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Speaker 2: But these are not journalists, these are law enforcement officials, officers.

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Speaker 1: The President didn't have to do what he did in

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Speaker 2: Yes, we actually talked about this the only remedy look.

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Speaker 1: I know she could have got you say, it would

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Speaker 1: new information now. And that wasn't It's very simple stuff.

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Speaker 1: That was stunning in that hearing room. It's okay, lady,

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Speaker 2: And so, look, she is out of a job, but

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Speaker 1: Highly doubted, highly doubt it. Get a good look at

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Speaker 1: this press conference. We will not see her for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the month. Probably she has until the thirty first,

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Speaker 1: But we saw other things Robes. You just mentioned those

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Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars in ads. Well, there's also some

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Speaker 1: luxury jets that might have been her undoing. I continuing

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Speaker 1: here with the breaking news Christy Nome, DHS Secretary of Robe.

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Speaker 1: Some people might have said they saw this coming, but

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Speaker 1: Sounds bigger. Really, this is a demotion, so she was

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Speaker 1: so maybe he is making it sound.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like that is exactly what he was

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Speaker 2: trying to do to try and make her feel better

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Speaker 2: about getting a lower position.

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Speaker 1: Ah and some people you see what was going on

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Speaker 1: on the streets of Minneapolis and the job she's done,

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Speaker 1: and what's been happening with border agents and okay, take

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Speaker 1: but rose behind the scenes what might have done her

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Speaker 1: in as well. There's been so many reports that she

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Speaker 1: likes to roll in luxury. Christine ellm is H has

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Speaker 1: been known to not be afraid to spend money to

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Speaker 1: upgrade and a couple of jets that were perched to

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Speaker 1: the tune of one hundred and fifty plus million I

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Speaker 1: think it was one hundred and seventy million dollars for

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Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security one of them to upgrade

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Speaker 1: her own plane that she travels around on. It just

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Speaker 1: set off alarm bells. There were tons of reports about

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Speaker 1: it's just not again, this is the department, this is

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Speaker 1: the administration. What was I can't even remember the name

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Speaker 1: of the thing. Elon Musk, what was his department saving

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Speaker 1: all this was? Yeah, the part of those department, They

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Speaker 1: saving all this money. And now it seems that was

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Speaker 1: another issue that seeing brobe to go along with what

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Speaker 1: we saw in the hearing. I didn't even realize the

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Speaker 1: ads cost that much.

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Speaker 2: I didn't either, and apparently there was limited it was

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Speaker 2: a limited competitive bid.

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Speaker 1: And oh yeah, oh god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was all of that, and then they

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Speaker 2: made a point to say she was prominently featured throughout

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Speaker 2: the entire att It was basically a Christie Noome. It

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Speaker 2: was adah where Christi Nome looked powerful and beautiful, Yes,

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Speaker 2: earning her nickname.

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Speaker 3: Ice Barby, name Ice Barby. But yeah, so there was

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Speaker 3: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of finger pointing when it came to all of those

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Speaker 3: In addition to yes, what happened Minneapolis, it wasn't just Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: There were a number of issues.

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Speaker 1: But the reports are in several places that the thing

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Speaker 1: that did her in Robes in fact, was those ads

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Speaker 1: and her not just the ads, but how she performed

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Speaker 1: at the hearing when she's questioned about it by a

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Speaker 1: Republican up there, Louisiana Senator Kennedy was questioning her, and look,

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Speaker 1: if it was a Democrat, he would have been yelling

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Speaker 1: Robes about why this has happened, why this much money,

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Speaker 1: and who gave you the okay? And the problem is

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Speaker 1: who she said okay?

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Speaker 2: Did Yeah, she said President Trump did, and I believe

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Speaker 2: Senator Kennedy said, mister Trump called him and said, just

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Speaker 2: so you know, that's not what happened. So he verbally

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Speaker 2: contradicted Christy Nome, or you could say Christy Nome said

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Speaker 2: something that either wasn't true or President Trump didn't appreciate

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Speaker 1: It was a bad It was one of the worst

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Speaker 1: why do we need to see your face and spend

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Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars to promote you? Will to promote you?

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Speaker 1: She said, well, the President said it was okay, and

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Speaker 1: that might have been her undoing robes. This is a

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Speaker 1: huge story because she has been a huge name in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a huge topic in this country and

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Speaker 1: now she's out. And by the way, robes the Department

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Speaker 1: of Homeland Security seems pretty damn important right now.

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Speaker 3: It certainly does.

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Speaker 1: It's not funded. It's not funded, and it's not lead.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: But we did get as the second part of President

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Speaker 2: Trump's truth social post, he went on to talk about

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Speaker 2: the person who he wants to take Christy Nome's place,

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Speaker 2: and I say that because he does have to be

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Speaker 2: confirmed by the Senate. But here is what he said

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Speaker 2: about Mark Wayne. He said, serving ten years in the

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Speaker 2: United States House of Representative and three in the Senate,

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Speaker 2: Mark Wayne has done a tremendous job representing the wonderful

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Speaker 2: people of Oklahoma, where I won all seventy seven out

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Speaker 2: of seventy seven counties in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. A MAGA warrior and former undefeated professional

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Speaker 2: MMA fighter, Mark Wayne truly gets along well with people

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Speaker 2: and knows the wisdom and courage required to advance our

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Speaker 2: America First agenda. As the only Native American in the Senate,

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Speaker 2: Mark Wayne is a fantastic advocate for our incredible tribal communities.

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Speaker 2: Mark Wayne will work tirelessly to keep our border secure,

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Speaker 2: stop migrant crime, murderers and other criminals from illegally entering

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Speaker 2: our country, and the scourge of illegal drugs.

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Speaker 3: And make America safe again.

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Speaker 2: Mark Wayne will make a spectacular Secretary of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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Speaker 1: All so, we'll say he gets approved. Haking get approval

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Speaker 1: through the Senate, but a shakeup, for sure, one that

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Speaker 1: many maybe saw coming, one that many maybe were hoping for.

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Speaker 1: For quite some time, but Christ you know, is out

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Speaker 1: at the Department of Homeland Security again. Folks didn't expect

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