1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase Utley's The Philly Show. Christopher Sanchez 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: has just signed a six year contract extension four days 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: before he makes his first opening day start for the Phillies. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski has announced the opening day roster. Hi, everybody, 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Aluki. 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: It's the Philly Show. 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: We're coming to you from Bake Care Ballpark in clear Water. 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 4: I finally made it. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Ruben's here in the flesh, which we love to see, 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: which we love to see. And let's you know what, 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Let's let's start Christopher Sanchez. And he's a great guy 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: to start with. Manco Manco Best Week. There we go, 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Manco Manco Best Week. It's where we pick our best 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Phillies player, play moment, and. 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: It has to be Christopher Sanchez. 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Jim Yeah, six year contracting sension worth guaranteed one hundred 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: and seven million. 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 5: Great week for Christopher Sanchez. He completed a terrific spring 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 5: with a strong outing here the other day, and he 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 5: had his second outing for the dr and the World 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 5: Baseball Classic was exceptionally had eight strikeouts and five innings 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 5: and then it just continues on Sunday with the announcement 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 5: of a contract sension named Opening Day Starter. So, you know, 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 5: they essentially went in and kind of restructured his previous deal, 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 5: which still had a couple of years remaining. And at 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 5: the back end of that deal they had two options, 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 5: so there was a fourteen and a fifteen million dollar option. 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 5: They guaranteed those, and then they said take two more 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 5: years at thirty and thirty. So a wealthy man a 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 5: nice you know, I think a nice more than a 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 5: gesture on the Phillies part. It's good that they so 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: open minded because I mean that contract was one of 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: the best bargains in baseball. He clearly outpitched it, and 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 5: both sides went in and opened it back up. And 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 5: now he has paid commensurate with a guy who second 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: in the Cy Young last year, twenty nine years old 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: in his prime getting better should compete for Cy Young's 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 5: and be a bedrock piece in this rotation for a 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: long time. It takes some guaranteed money through thirty two 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 5: with an option for thirty three. 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 4: So pretty good deal. 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a great deal for both sides. 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 6: Very rarely do you get a situation where you get 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 6: both sides benefit. For Christopher Sanchez, this was about, you know, 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 6: being comfortable and knowing exactly you know, not having to 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 6: worry about money anymore and just going out and pitching. 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 6: Stated that during the course of the press conference, and 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 6: I think, you know, for the Phillies, it was sort 50 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 6: of a note brainer that they were going to pick 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 6: up those two option years anyway, and you know, to 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 6: throw a thirty million, two thirty millions on that in 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 6: this day and age, with the way starting pitching is going. 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 6: I mean, you're talking about guys making anywhere from thirty 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 6: five to forty plus per year, and he's been one 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 6: of the best pitchers in baseball. So great deal for 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 6: both of them, Happy for both and really what an 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 6: amazing development for the player himself. The maturation that he's 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 6: gone through, the fact that he continued to try to 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 6: be better and better every single year. He's learned so 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 6: much from some other players, but he's also taken it 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 6: upon himself to be the best. 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 7: Player he can be. Pretty amazing transformation both. 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 6: Originally just a thrower guy with a great arm, yeah, 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 6: and became that the picture he was. 66 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 5: He was kind of a rock thrower when he got 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: here kind of big fastball, did not know where it's going. 68 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 5: He's developed pitchability, He's you know, developed one of the 69 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 5: best change ups in all of baseball. 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: He's adding a slider right. Yeah, you know. 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: His pitching aptitude is outstanding, and you know you gotta 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 5: go hats off. I know Tampa Bay was in a 73 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 5: bit of a roster pinch, but I remember talking to 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 5: Matt Clintach former GM the night they made that trade 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: for Curtis Meade, and he flat out said, this is 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: a scouting trade. They had a roster pinch. I leaned 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 5: on our pro scouts. They liked what they saw and 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 5: they pulled the trigger on him. So good trade by him. 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 5: Great job by player development and pitching development here at 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 5: the big league level. And not all organizations would be 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 5: open minded to restructuring a contract. Some organizations would say, no, no, 82 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 5: you signed it, you finish. 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: It, and we'll we'll judge you year by year. 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: They opened this thing up and made a major commitment. 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: You think back just talking to him this spring. 86 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: What's been cool to see too, or really over the 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: past couple of years, is how much he has grown 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: in his confidence. I mean, you know, I talked to 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: him earlier. Great, this happens to most guys, very kind 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: of timid. And now he's he's like, openly, I think 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: he's got a thing with you. He like's kind of 92 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: busting on you a little bit when we're interviewing it. 93 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: But he's been joking around with us a lot this spring, Reuben. 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, we've been asking him questions. What did you 95 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: ask him the other day? You said you're gonna lose 96 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: any sleep opening day? 97 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 5: He was, you know, I you know how he'd sleep 98 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 5: because it's exciting. Yes, you know, you get a little 99 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 5: ramped up and you don't sleep well the night before. 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 5: I know I don't sleep well before I come on 101 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: the Philly Show, nor do. 102 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: I I'm sweating bullets. And what did he say? 103 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: He kind of looked at and he goes, he kind 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: of left, He goes, do you think I should be 105 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: sleeping well in opening day or the night before Opening day? 106 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: And then at the very end of the of the 107 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: interview the other day when we were talking about him 108 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: making the opening day start, at the very end, he 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: looked at Jimmy goes, I'm gonna sleep just fine. 110 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: Right. 111 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 6: He did say that he's great, certainly coming out, there's 112 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 6: no question about it, and his confidence is off the 113 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 6: charts right now. I mean, this is a guy, if anybody, 114 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 6: who deserves to be an opening day starter. 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: The way he threw the ball last year and. 116 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 7: The way he grew. 117 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, folks, it's not often that you have 118 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 6: this group of starting pitchers. It's something that you should 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 6: a lot of people should should marvel at because they 120 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 6: got a chance at three number ones. Yes in that 121 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 6: rotation when Chris, when Zach Wheeler backed, I said, Chris Wheeler. 122 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 6: When Zach Wheeler bounces back and it's back on this rotation, 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 6: there's a chance that you got three ass at the time. 124 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 6: That's a pretty damn good starting rotation. 125 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 5: And two big financial commitments to two left handers this spring. 126 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 5: Lozardo twenty eight years old, Sanchez twenty nine years old, 127 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 5: locked up for a good long while, Nola's locked up 128 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 5: for a while, Andrew Painter is under control for a while. 129 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: Pitching starting pitching is it's the bedrock of any team, 130 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 5: and particularly with this Phillies group, and these guys stay healthy, 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: it's a nice place to be. 132 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: I think if I'm Sanchez, Lozardo, Nola and painter. I'm 133 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: maybe trying to work over Zach Wheeler a little bit 134 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: over the next couple of years and say, come on, buddy, 135 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you know you want to. 136 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: Go a couple more years, especially if he's pitching. 137 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Will know because Zach has said he's he's probably done 138 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: after this this current contract ends. But yeah, absolutely, just 139 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: tremendous news, and we've got more to come. 140 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 8: Hey, it might be time to have a heart to 142 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 8: heart with your phone and be like, I love you, 143 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 8: but you cost too much. 144 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not paying this much anymore. 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We Ruben used to come in that 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: side room and yell at us. 173 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: We have had We have had some some a lot 174 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: of a lot of moments. Yeah, I remember we The 175 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: one that comes to mind immediately was Cole Hamil's Ruben. 176 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: We were saying his elbow was bothering him one spring, correct, 177 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't that one. 178 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 5: There was a Cliff Lead press conference, is there? There 179 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 5: was an Oldubal horror press conference, is right? 180 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: That's right. 181 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: It's a legendary little. 182 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Room it is a legendary little room. 183 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: So so Dave did talk to us about a lot 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: of the roster moves that they made. And let's start 185 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: by talking about the bench. I guess we know who 186 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: the every day eight is. Every day nine, I guess. 187 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: And Dave Dombrowski said, Raphael Marshawn has been told he 188 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: has made the team. Garrett Stubbs has been told he 189 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: has not made the team. There's some technicalities there in 190 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: terms of what's going to happen next with him. 191 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: The other bench spots are going to be. 192 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Otto, Kemp, Yep, ed Mundo Sosa. You know those two 193 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: are no surprises. But Dylan Moore also has made the 194 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: team as a utility player. What kind of nothing major 195 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: I guess or surprising stunning in that in those moves, 196 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: But what jumps out to you guys. 197 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, not a lot of surprise. They like Moore's versatility. 198 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 5: They were able to rework his contracts on a big, 199 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: big deal, so he stays as you talk about last week, 200 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,239 Speaker 5: he has eight different gloves. Rob Thompson wants that versatility. 201 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 5: Sosa and Camp to me are what Pat Gilick used 202 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: to call semi regulars. You know, they're on your bench, 203 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 5: but the semi regulars, because you know, if action means anything. 204 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 5: Rob Thompson started Sosa at second base against Schooble the 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: other day, started camp in left field against Schooble, So 206 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 5: that would hint to uh, platoons in left field, in 207 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 5: second base at least to start the season. You want 208 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 5: to keep guys going after they've gotten that bats down here. 209 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 5: You don't want them to kind of grow cobwebs early 210 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: in the season. So I think they'll play a lot. 211 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 5: No surprises they're on the bench, not a. 212 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: Lot of surprises. 213 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 6: Although Dylan Morris started off the season kind of slow, 214 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 6: this this this spring made a little bit of a 215 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 6: swing adjustment. 216 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 217 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 6: He's not a great offensive players, numbers aren't terrific, but 218 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 6: he has the versatility that's necessary, and they don't they 219 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 6: don't need They feel that they need more that versatility 220 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 6: as opposed as opposed defensive versatility, as opposed. 221 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 7: To the off I mean they're gonna go basically with the. 222 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 6: Guys that they've got, and and and the addition of 223 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 6: of Sosa and Kemp's filling in at times. 224 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 9: This is a team that was pretty well set in 225 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 9: the offseason anyway when they re signed JT and Schwarber, 226 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 9: So not a lot of surprise. It will be interesting 227 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 9: to see if there are breakdowns. 228 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 6: Who's gonna get the bulk of the play you know, 229 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 6: who's gonna get a chance to play and such. 230 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: But no real surprises for me. 231 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 6: It's unfortunate that there's only twenty six guys, and so 232 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 6: Garrett Stubbs is the guy who are the man left 233 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 6: out because I think he's got a chance to get 234 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 6: picked up by somebody. Talk to some people in the 235 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 6: industry and he's he's he could be a hot comeoutity. 236 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 6: He's not a whole lot of guys that do the 237 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 6: job as well as he can do it. I'm you know, 238 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 6: sitting on the bench and providing not just talent as 239 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 6: a player, but also someone who is on you'll basically 240 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 6: another coach on the field. So we'll be interesting to 241 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 6: see what happens with him over the next uh, you know, 242 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 6: four or five days. 243 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically right, the Phillies are going to try 244 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: to according to Dave, they're gonna try to trade him 245 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: see if there's a team that could take him over 246 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: the next until Wednesday, correct. 247 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: And it sounds like he's gonna look around as well. 248 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: The team's gonna see if there's a trade there for him, right, 249 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 5: and they have to set their roster officially on Wednesday. 250 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: If he's still here, he'll become a DFA then and 251 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 5: have to go through the waiver process. And there is 252 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: a road back to the Lehigh Valley, but there are 253 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: exit ramps to every other organization if something pops. 254 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: And then again, remember he's he send that split contract 255 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: in November, so if they can't find a taker the 256 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: next couple of days, if he goes, if he's dfa'd, 257 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: he clears waivers, he can still elect free agency at 258 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: that point if he wants, but he would forfeit that 259 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: splittrack which does pay him or will pay him five 260 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars in Triple A, which 261 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: is a really that's a that's a big number for 262 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,119 Speaker 1: a Triple A player, a guaranteed Triple A player. 263 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: Big number for Garrett, for a Triple A player. 264 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 6: But for teams that are contending teams, I would not 265 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 6: be surprised. That's a team or two that'll be out 266 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 6: there that would at least consider that. 267 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's probably a bunch of teams out there that. 268 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 6: Don't feel comfortable about their third or fourth catchers in 269 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 6: their organization. I think the guy's gonna end up being 270 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 6: in the big league somewhere, and I hope for his 271 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 6: sake he does. Selfishly, you'd love, you know, if you 272 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 6: were in the front office for the Phillies, you'd selfishly 273 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 6: love to have him come back and pay him gladly 274 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 6: that five seventy five. But I think that he's going 275 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: to have opportunities in other space space. 276 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 5: He's a valuable depth, depth piece. It would be really 277 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: good for the franchise, the organization if he ends up 278 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 5: back here. 279 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if you will. 280 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: And if he does leave, Rene Pinto would be the 281 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: number three catcher. He's got a little bit of big 282 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: league experience. 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Then we saw on Instagram he also 308 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: got engaged a couple of days ago. 309 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: Good good, good week for Andrew Painters to congratulations to 310 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: Andrew Painter. 311 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: That was that was one of those him and Justin 312 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: Crawford was one of those they opened. 313 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: Duh, that's a great way to put a jim. 314 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Because everybody been you know, I listen, I was guilty 315 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: of but so so the other day when when Rob 316 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: announced the opening day rotation and said, you know, Painter's 317 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: going to make his debut on March thirty. First, I 318 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: did write a story to put a headline and said 319 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Painters officially made it. But part of me did 320 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: want to write as my lead. Duh, because even though 321 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: Dave Dembross in the Phillies front office said, listen, he's 322 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: got to earn a spot, Justin Crawford's got to earn 323 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: a spot. What would it have taken for neither of 324 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: those guys not to make the opening day roster. It 325 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: would have been almost like injury or just absolutely something 326 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: unimaginable performance wise. 327 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: But both of those guys would have been disastrous. 328 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 6: I mean, good on the Phillies and good on the 329 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: players to have right and to right actually because they did. 330 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: They played well. Crawford played well. 331 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 9: I liked that what I saw on the outfield from him, 332 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 9: which is a big concern of mine. 333 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: I liked what I saw with the at bats. He 334 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: had quality at bats. Didn't look over match. Now when 335 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: the season starts and the bell really rings, will it 336 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: be different? Maybe? Will will he start to get picked apart? Possibly? 337 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: But on the flip side, Peter threw the ball very well. 338 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 9: At first I was a little concerned about you know, 339 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 9: it's overall not his stuff. 340 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: Never questioned about of stuff, but his command. But he 341 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: added up pitching better and better and better. 342 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 11: We talked about this, when do you evaluate the players 343 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 11: the most? And to me, young players are evaluated much 344 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 11: better at the end of spring training, when guys are 345 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 11: closure and closer. 346 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: To being ready major league ready. 347 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 6: And I thought bothland performed better late than they did 348 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 6: in the early part, which is a you know, good. 349 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: On the painter had that great start down against the 350 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 5: Braves and a great lineup against a team. And the 351 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: other day over here against the best pitcher on the planet, 352 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 5: Tarek Scooble, or at least one of them, top two 353 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: or three, he had a really good game. He strike, 354 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 5: you know, he strokes a triple down the right field 355 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: line and runs like a gazelle to third base, and 356 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: then you know, then later in the game, Schooble punched 357 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 5: him out. Hey, that's gonna happen when you're facing a 358 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: picture like that. It was kind of a microcosm orre 359 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: a young player will go through with so much promise there. 360 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 5: He also came in on a ball full speed. That 361 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: thing was not dropping in. I love the way he 362 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 5: comes in on balls. Eager to see what both of 363 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: these guys can do. And you know, there's a little 364 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 5: footnote with this prospect incentive promotion plan. If they if 365 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 5: you know, they're opening on the opening day roster, if 366 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 5: they stay all year and finish certain level for a 367 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: rookie of the end, the Phillies gonna en up a 368 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: picking up a draft pick. So that's something keep an 369 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 5: eye on, keep an eye on a little bit, right, Yeah. 370 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 371 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: So the rotation to start the season, for those that 372 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, it was announced on Friday or over 373 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: the weekend. Uh, it's going to be Christopher Sanchez obviously 374 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: opening day, Aaron Nola pitch Game two, Jesus's Arto pitch 375 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: Game three. Taiwan Walker will pitch the series opener against 376 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: the Nationals on March thirtieth, and if you want to 377 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: check out Andrew Painter's major league debut, who knows where 378 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: he might go from your guys, that could be a 379 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: good ticket. Well I don't, they don't have ticket stubs anymore, 380 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: but that would be a good ticket to get March 381 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: thirty first against the Nationals. So all right, the bullpen 382 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: has also set. Jim, you wrote it down because I'm 383 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: gonna forget. So let's read through the bull Let's read 384 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: through the bullpen because I'm not gonna remember. They'll go 385 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: for it. Juan Durant, it's gonna he's gonna be closing. 386 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he will. 387 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 6: The light show, Alvarado will be uh thrown from the 388 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 6: left side as a as I set up. 389 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 5: Right Keller from the right side, and then you know, 390 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: returning lefty Tanner Banks new edition Jonathan Boland, big tall, 391 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 5: right handed power guy. Zach Popp makes it veteran. He's 392 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 5: been around a little bit. I thought this kid had 393 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: a great camp. Kyle Bachis. They pick him up in 394 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 5: a trade with Arizona. He comes in with options, so 395 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: he needed to shine a little bit and he did 396 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: just that. He's kind of thundered, not really thunder, but 397 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 5: he's he drops down uh side arm and he had 398 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: a great game over in the Yankee against the Yankees 399 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: last week. 400 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: Allows a leadoff double. 401 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 5: In the middle innings to uh Ben Rice and then 402 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 5: strikes out Bellinger Stanton and chise him with from the 403 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 5: side sinkers fastballs topped out at ninety two and a half. 404 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 8: There. 405 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: He's not a power guy, but he's gotten a little 406 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 5: more juice here in camp. They love that that that look, 407 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 5: and they love the extension and the deception. 408 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 4: So he's on it. 409 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 5: And Tim Mason, veteran local guy, spent a lot of 410 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 5: time with the Blue Jays. He makes the roster. He 411 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 5: was in on a minor league contract. That did a 412 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: good job and it's nice to see him and Oriyan 413 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: Kirkering will open on the injured list. They'll take their 414 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 5: time with him, probably all of what fifteen days. Yeah, 415 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 5: probably get him back to feeling right and we'll see 416 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 5: him at some point. 417 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 418 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: That the Kirkering thing makes some sense to me. 419 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 6: I thought that they there was a there was a 420 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 6: possibility that they could have optioned him, but they ended up, 421 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 6: you know, putting him on the il, which makes sense. 422 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 6: He's not quite ready and so get a couple more 423 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 6: reps before he has to he's allowed to come back 424 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 6: on him. 425 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 7: That the rule is such, I think it's ten to eights. 426 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 7: I don't know it's backdated. 427 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly how it's backdated. 428 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: I think he backdated maximum three days days. 429 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 6: So within the next you know, ten days, two weeks, whatever, 430 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 6: hill he should be back. 431 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: And uh and adding to that, you know to that. 432 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Zach mccambley, who is their rule five pick? 433 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: He got returned to the Marlins. Uh Chase Shugart who 434 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: they picked up from the Orioles in the offseason off waivers. 435 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: I believe he got option. He had options, so he 436 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: got sent to Triple A. So they do like their 437 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: They do like their bullpen depth. They do have a 438 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: lot of arms down there. If something should happen, they 439 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: need some guys, so they they maintained that. 440 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: But Luke Trevino went to Triple to Triple A. I mean, 441 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: veteran right hander. The way these teams nowadays turn bullpens 442 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: and and and use their personnel, I think all these 443 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: guys are going to get an opportunity at some point 444 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 5: and then it's it's what you do with that opportunity 445 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 5: that kind of determines if you stick or not. 446 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure what happened in maxlzzar did we 447 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: talking about? 448 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, oblique, he has an oblique. Yeah, so he's gonna 449 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: open on the injured list. 450 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 451 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: For depth, he's an. 452 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: Important depth piece as well. I'm a pick piece. 453 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 7: I think he might be Adam Options. 454 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: Is he Adam Options excellists or maybe he's not. 455 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 6: He might have one more option, And if he does 456 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: have one, he becomes even more valuable to this club 457 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 6: because he has contributed at times except for you know, 458 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 6: a couple of really tough outings. I think in Chicago 459 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 6: last year he actually put together a pretty dark good 460 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 6: year point. 461 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: And then starting pitching wise, depth wise. We asked Dave 462 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: about this as well, because that was something he had 463 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: addressed earlier in camp, because you look at the rotation 464 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: right now, obviously you have the six guys with Wheeler, 465 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: and then beyond that, you know you're talking Alan Ron Hell, 466 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Jeane Cabrera, Bryce Wilson's in camp, Tucker, Davidson and Dave 467 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: said that they had been looking for starting pitching depth 468 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: optionable starting pitching depth, and as you know, Rubin. You 469 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: don't not easy to find optionable starting pitchers, quality starting 470 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: pitchers in a trade, especially at this time of year. 471 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: That's what they might be looking for. 472 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 6: For a guy like Garrett Stubbs or some combination of 473 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 6: Garrett Stubbs could be a prospect. You may see, you 474 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 6: may see a deal transpire that in bombs a couple 475 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 6: of different players, including Garrett, where it's such a big 476 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 6: time commodity where they might have to go and overpay 477 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 6: for a guy who's optionable and quality and that's hard 478 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: to find. 479 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. 480 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: So all right, guys, Oh, I want to mention this 481 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: as we're talking about all these pictures. We had a 482 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: great conversation the other day with Caleb cosso nice and 483 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: he was awesome. We had him on about a year 484 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: ago right before spring training spring training of twenty twenty five. 485 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: Learned so much same thing talking to him the other 486 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: day right here at this spot at Baker Ballpark. We 487 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: go through a lot of the starting pitchers, some of 488 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: the bullpen guys, a lot, just a lot of great insights. 489 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: So that's going to be on posted on Tuesday morning, 490 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: so definitely check that out. 491 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: Oh. 492 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 6: Also interesting, I talked to Jason Stark, who's obviously Hall 493 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 6: of Famer scribe, and he was it was really interesting 494 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 6: to hear him talk about the reputation that the Phillies have, 495 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 6: particularly Caleb and his group of developing pitching, because the 496 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 6: entire industry really is taking notes. 497 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you look at what they've done with the WIZARDO, 498 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 5: look at what they've done with Sanchez, Look what they've 499 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 5: done with Alvarado, who was a project kind of when 500 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 5: he came here. 501 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: Probably things they've done with Wheelers. 502 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 5: Wheelers coming over from the Mets took it, took it 503 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 5: to another level. I'm probably missing somebody, but they they've 504 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 5: done a good job keeping their guys pretty healthy too. 505 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, they just a tremendous job of that as well. 506 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they absolutely have. 507 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: So make sure again check out Caleb Cotham on Tuesday. 508 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Until then, Fellows, smell you a lot of boys. The 509 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul Territory Network. 510 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and wherever you 511 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: get your podcasts.