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Speaker 1: These One Bills Live presented by called Light to Health. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how are we doing here on a Wednesday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. One Bills Live is your program

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Speaker 1: of choice. Thanks for joining us, And we are waiting

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Speaker 1: the foreboding ice slash snowstorm coming here. Not I was

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Speaker 1: supposed to get a lot of snowfall, Steve. But it's

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Speaker 1: the ice that people are worried about. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: snow and outside here in op right now. So it's

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Speaker 1: not warm enough to rain, but it's cool enough to snow.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what that means. It's gonna go snow,

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Speaker 1: then rain, then freeze it. It's in freezing rains. That

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Speaker 1: next thing that winter has to offer. Although I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw this. So it's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: unseasonably warm, basically anywhere from the Pennsylvania state line down

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Speaker 1: have blizzard warnings in most of California, granted closer to

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Speaker 1: the mountains like the Sierra Nevadas and stuff. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I love them getting dished with some of that for

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Speaker 1: a change. Yeah, I mean forty one, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: La is forty degree weather a dusting because let me

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Speaker 1: Steve was at the Sabers game last night and at

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Speaker 1: four nothing I send Steve a text along with the

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Speaker 1: It was rough, and I usually I have I don't

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Speaker 1: know how it is with all the baggage that it has,

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Speaker 1: you know, in games this year included with you know,

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Speaker 1: and all this baggage and all the crud that that

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Speaker 1: there's some interesting news on that front. As salary cap

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Speaker 1: casualties have begun. Steve as about half the league knows

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Speaker 1: they have some work to do to get in cap

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Speaker 1: compliance by the start of the league year March fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: Bills are one of those teams. But we go around

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Speaker 1: the NFL now, which is presented by Kalida Health, the

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Speaker 1: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. After nine seasons

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Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans, Steve, they are releasing offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan, who, if memory serves as a former first

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Speaker 1: But he saves them by himself fourteen million on the cap.

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Speaker 1: the judo world. Of course. You know my first match,

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Speaker 1: got the input and feedback from your own players about

424
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Speaker 1: what it was like to play against those guys. And

425
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: there's a couple of those guys probably on giving those teams,

426
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Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Jets, and the Dolphins, who your team

427
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: probably says, yeah, that guy was that guy was tough

428
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: to play against, he was good. Right, Those are the

429
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Speaker 1: guys should target because it hurts your division, helps you

430
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Speaker 1: and with all those guys in the offensive line and

431
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Speaker 1: the Bills right in the spot where they are, you

432
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Speaker 1: can kind of think that that's what's you know, you'd

433
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Speaker 1: kind of think that's what would happen. Yeah, so I

434
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: think they got to go all in on offensive line.

435
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: Their offensive line was abysmal. They couldn't run the ball,

436
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: their pass protection was average at best, and they still

437
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Speaker 1: managed to qualify for the playoffs despite it all. So

438
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Speaker 1: they would be wise to fortify their offensive line. They

439
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: have a good guard in Robert Hunt Toronto. Armstead is

440
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: a proven veteran tackle, but I don't think he is

441
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: what he used to be when he was blocking for

442
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is blindside in New Orleans. But yeah, they

443
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Speaker 1: got to fortify that offensive line quickly because they have

444
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: talent at the skill positions, and they got to get

445
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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback that if two goes down the next concussion,

446
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be out three four weeks. I think it's

447
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Speaker 1: a lock. So you better have somebody that can at

448
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Speaker 1: least go five hundred, good enough to go five hundred

449
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Speaker 1: two and two or And I say this, you can

450
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Speaker 1: say what you want about what happened with Skylar Thompson

451
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Speaker 1: the Bills in the playoffs. So Bills. I mean, we've

452
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Speaker 1: been talking about it up for a month now. The

453
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Speaker 1: Bills of the last three weeks three games of their

454
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: season were not who they were for the first sixteen

455
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Speaker 1: weeks of their season. So let's say what you want

456
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Speaker 1: about how Skylar Thompson played here and Buffalo. But I

457
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: don't think that he's the answer. Now, maybe the Dolphins do.

458
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: Maybe he did show some stuff, Maybe they do like him.

459
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna bring him back and probably keep him

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Speaker 1: on the roster. It's not a rookie contract's affordable. You

461
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Speaker 1: gotta have somebody. You gotta get somebody, Yeah, they really do.

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not gonna be Joe Flacco. No,

463
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Speaker 1: it's got to be better than that, right, I mean,

464
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Speaker 1: you might need like a Garoppolo type, somebody like that,

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Speaker 1: or like somebody of that caliber. I think too, I don't.

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Speaker 1: There's no way too he was playing seventeen games next year.

467
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Speaker 1: There is no way that is half. Here's the problem too,

468
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Speaker 1: They got some issues on that roster. They're not they're

469
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Speaker 1: not in as good as the Jets. Coming back where

470
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Speaker 1: the Jets are young and getting better. You got you know, McKay,

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Speaker 1: Beckton Vera, Tucker, Tomlinson on the offensive line, you've got

472
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Speaker 1: that defense, all those interior defensive lineman, those guys got Sauce,

473
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Speaker 1: Bruce Hall, Garrett will you. You've got some guys and

474
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Speaker 1: the Jets, the Dolphins, I mean, Giseki's out of there.

475
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Speaker 1: All these guys are out of there. They still have

476
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Speaker 1: Hill and Waddle Ban Ginkles out of it. Yeah, you

477
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: got two guys, but you know you got to stand

478
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Speaker 1: back there and do it. So you're not gonna get

479
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Speaker 1: a guy like Derek. The point is you're not gonna

480
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Speaker 1: get Derek Carr or you know, Aaron Rodgers, no, or

481
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Speaker 1: one of those guys. Did like consider like taking that on.

482
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Speaker 1: What those guys are looking for is a Jet opportunity

483
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: where you've got a ready made at least playoff roster,

484
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Speaker 1: particularly given the way their defense played last year in

485
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Speaker 1: New York. You can go in there and win. It

486
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Speaker 1: was reported today that the Jets are selling Derek Carr

487
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Speaker 1: on the fact that he can come to New York.

488
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Speaker 1: This is unbelievable. Jets, I couldn't job here. So here's

489
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Speaker 1: what they're doing. Everybody comes in and they're saying, hey,

490
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Speaker 1: you're gonna thrive in our offense. You're gonna be great,

491
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be and for the Jets, and rightfully

492
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: so in this case, they're gonna say, hey, you're in

493
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Speaker 1: New York. It's the media capital of the world. You're

494
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Speaker 1: gonna be all the attention you can possibly get. And

495
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Speaker 1: if you win here, it's a lifetime deal. It's gonna

496
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Speaker 1: be awesome and stuff. In fact, think about this, Derek,

497
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Speaker 1: if you come in here and win right way, when

498
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: some playoff games, get to and win the Enchilada, you're

499
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Speaker 1: gonna be in New York, win the Super Bowl. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this right now, you're gonna be a

501
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Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. That's what they're telling. That

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00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: is reportedly reported reportedly what the Jets told Derek Carr.

503
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: They're saying, he's gonna be with the Jets, He'll be

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Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer. That's how hard they're

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Speaker 1: selling here. You want to talk about that is not

506
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Speaker 1: a soft sell. You want to talk about making the

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Speaker 1: playoffs with the Jets if he plays the kind of

508
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Speaker 1: quarterback they think he can and maybe winning a playoff game,

509
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Speaker 1: you're still in the realm of reasonable promises winning a

510
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Speaker 1: super Bowl. Hold up, you're playing in the AFC and

511
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Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. You jump the shark Jets.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? Yeah? How do you cash that check? Yeah?

513
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: How are you gonna How are you gonna do that?

514
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Speaker 1: And I get it on with that. That's that's a

515
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Speaker 1: big sell. That's a big sell. We haven't we have

516
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Speaker 1: an update, Steve, I saw it yet, Robert Woods. You

517
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: thought he was happy to move on and get back

518
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: to the West Coast after playing out his rookie contract

519
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Here's an indication of how happy he

520
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: is that he is being cut by the Tennessee Titans today.

521
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: A tweet from about a half an hour ago, free

522
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Speaker 1: with an exclamation point. Then he asks where should I go?

523
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: And there are already four hundred and seventy eight replies.

524
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: Let's see how much Bill's Mafia has jumped on that train.

525
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Here somebody says, I know a spot, and he has

526
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: a picture of him in a RAMS uniform. And then

527
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Speaker 1: second on the list, you'd look good in the seven

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00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: one six, And somebody takes a has a picture of

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Speaker 1: him in a Bill's uniform. Right now, it's two, three

530
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Speaker 1: out of the first five, three out of the first six,

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Speaker 1: four out of the first six, five out of the

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Speaker 1: first six, five out of the first six. Replies to

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Speaker 1: Bobby Trees is a Bills fan saying, come back to Buffalo.

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00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: That is great. Bill's mafia. You never disappoint. I'm just

535
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna say it. They jump on that stuff so fast.

536
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: They are one of the best teams. That's social media

537
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: recruiting you are ever gonna see out there, and they

538
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: are on it like White on rice again. Yeah, yeah,

539
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's you know. And I'll say this, I

540
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: can't when did he leave here? Was it? So he

541
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: was a twenty thirteen draft choice, played four years here thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

542
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: So Rex is out and he's out same year. I

543
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: get that. Maybe his coaches here, we're Marone and Rex Ryan.

544
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I think that's all you need to say as to

545
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Speaker 1: why he wanted to get the heck out of Dodge

546
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Speaker 1: right right. Well, but we'll see, it's a much different

547
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: atmosphere here now, and you know, and he wouldn't look

548
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Speaker 1: too bad in the slot. Be a nice mentor for

549
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir. He is not listen he's he's a good player.

550
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Speaker 1: Not you're not gonna get him for pennies on the dollar. No,

551
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: because that's why he is age thirty two, and there's

552
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Speaker 1: you know, the market changes when players get to be

553
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Speaker 1: that age. I like him a lot, man, I like

554
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: him a lot. Um. Yeah, he might be our new

555
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Speaker 1: who might be our Obel's new obsession here. You gotta

556
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Speaker 1: you gotta full on bromance going there, So we might

557
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: because he can he can play Brownie. He knows he

558
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: can't can really play, and he's not gonna be cheap

559
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: or maybe they maybe they'll give him a chance to

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00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, do a one year deal or something like

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00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: the Bills have done in the past. Um, I don't know,

562
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, one year deal for Robert would come in.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna feel like it's pretty pretty much

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Speaker 1: guarantee he's gonna get it. He's not. There's no way

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna make this roster. So yeah, that's really

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Speaker 1: intriguing to me. And that's where we're kind of sitting.

567
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: Maybe the Bills have gotta a list of guys who

568
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: they think are gonna be cap casualties like Robert woods Man.

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Speaker 1: That's really interesting really interesting. We have to take a

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Speaker 1: break here, but before we do, we're gonna let you

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Speaker 1: know our topic of discussion for the day today. What

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Speaker 1: do you think should be the bill's main focus in

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Speaker 1: free agency Priority Numero Uno? What's their main focus? What

574
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: do you think it should be? You let us know

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Speaker 1: At eight fifty fifty two five fifty the toll free

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Speaker 1: number to get on board if you're outside the seven

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Speaker 1: one six area or on the tweet sheet. At one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you. We take

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Speaker 1: a break here, but your phone calls and tweets. Next

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Speaker 1: on one Bills Live presented by KLAUD to Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. The Titans are slashing even more people.

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Speaker 1: Not only Taylor Lauan and wide receiver Robert Woods have

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Speaker 1: been released by Tennessee and some cat maneuvers to get

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Speaker 1: under the cap. They've also released their veteran kicker Randy Bullock.

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Speaker 1: So three veteran players released off the Titans roster. As

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Speaker 1: a new GM Ran Carthon is slashing payroll to say

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Speaker 1: the least, eight oh three five fifty the local number

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Speaker 1: to get on board one eight fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: As we are talking to you today about what should

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Speaker 1: be the Bill's main focus in free agency, and we

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Speaker 1: go to the phones. Leading us off today is Jim

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Speaker 1: in South Buffalo. What do you got for us? Jim? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How you done? My opinion would be improving the offline line?

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Speaker 1: And what about Beasley and Brown? Then you keep them

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Speaker 1: so you want to all right? So let me just

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Speaker 1: run this pass to Jim. Let me this passage Jim,

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Speaker 1: just out of curiosity. John Brown turns thirty three in April.

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley turns thirty four in April. Are you still okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you worried at all about the age and maybe

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00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: declining skills? Well? One year deal, okay, one year deal,

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Speaker 1: because let's not forget Jim. Last year at this time,

602
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: the Bills released Cole Beasley, who was who still had

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Speaker 1: a year left on his contract, and then they brought

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Speaker 1: him back when the guys they put in place to

605
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: replace him didn't pan out right, but they didn't play that. Yeah, no,

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00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: there's a reason for that too. But here's the thing too, Jim,

607
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Speaker 1: if and I get it, we don't ever know, but

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Speaker 1: I would. I'm in the position where I kind of

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Speaker 1: even though they've made mistakes and they've missed on guys

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Speaker 1: at times. Brandon being and his crew. If they are,

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Speaker 1: I think they think like we do. Beasley and Brown

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Speaker 1: give you a certain level. You think, at least maybe

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Speaker 1: even they are now declining, they're gonna high are guys

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Speaker 1: that are at least that good or better with a

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Speaker 1: with a bigger upside. They're getting better as the time

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Speaker 1: rulls on. So I think you're right. They're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: in guys like Cole Beasley, like John Brown, just like

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Speaker 1: they brought in Beasley and Brown to begin with, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna try and upgrade those guys. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. Whether it's Cole Beasley or John Brown, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be somebody. I believe like you do. Jim, he

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Speaker 1: wants Beasley and Brown specifically, I know, and I think,

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Speaker 1: but I because trusts them well. To Steve's point, though,

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Speaker 1: I think they're looking for the next Beasley and Brown.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Better ways say you should be on radio,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're looking for. I'm totally on board of

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Speaker 1: your offensive line point, and they are too. I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're well aware of what needs to

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Speaker 1: happen there just as we've said on this show this week,

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Speaker 1: just from a sheer number standpoint in terms of the

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Speaker 1: free agents you have in the offensive line contingent right now,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Greg Van Roten, Roger Saffold. I mean, you've

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Speaker 1: got a butcher Kessenberry Quessenberry. That's four right there. So

634
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: from just a numbers perspective, you're gonna have to refortify

635
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: the position. It's not all that difference from the defensive

636
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: line last year. Six free agents on their defensive line

637
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: last year and had to replenish. Let's be let's be honest, though,

638
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: this is where we're at. If we get this value,

639
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: if we're talking about value and whatever cap space, because

640
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: they have to, they have to create some cap space

641
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: so they can sign guys. It's about how much of

642
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: that cap space, how much of that resource gets thrown

643
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: at it. And I think most people are in the

644
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: camp that you and I are throw as much as

645
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: you need to make sure as much as you can

646
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: that the old line is going to be good. Give

647
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: them some throw some money at it, throw some draft

648
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: picks at it, throw some assets at that position group

649
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: and get it. Right now, it means not as many

650
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: one year contracts. Get somebody maybe that you feel is

651
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: going to significantly upgrade your line, and maybe give him

652
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: a longer contract than one year maybe, or sign a

653
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: proven player to a longer deal that you can spread

654
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: the money out more effectively, or target a handful of

655
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 1: players at that position in the draft. And as long

656
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: as there's one or two of those guys on the

657
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: board when your number comes up, get him right. And

658
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: if it looks like he may not trade up right,

659
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: get him. But you gotta get somebody who you know,

660
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: particularly as a young player. I'm all about using draft

661
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 1: picks on the old line now instead of the D line.

662
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: I guess is one thing. One way to put it.

663
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: You probably have to flip that script. And that doesn't

664
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, unless in free agency they go out and go, oh, well, okay,

665
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm okay with that. Don't don't take

666
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: an offensive line in there because you got this guy,

667
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: whoever it is. I don't think Taylor or One's going

668
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: to be a big answer for anybody, you know what

669
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm we're all with you, and we

670
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: all believe that off as alignment question. Can you get

671
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: some value there? Well? And that's how much the other

672
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: thing that you have to be mindful of as well. Yeah,

673
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: we'd all love for the Bills to get a great

674
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: offensive tackle and free agency, but knowing in free agency

675
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: more often than not you overpay for first or second

676
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: tier players in the market, more often than not, you're

677
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: going to overpay. Knowing Buffalo's relatively tight cap situation, even

678
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: if it's improved, you wonder if the Bills might be

679
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: more inclined to go find a veteran guard to add

680
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: to the roster, knowing that cost is less than the

681
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: cost of a tackle, right, so you wonder if they

682
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: pursue guard in free agency. There's sign or draft a

683
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: tackle in the draft. There's also some stuff going around.

684
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 1: But because Spencer Brown is young, give him a little

685
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: more time. I think there's a lot of people that

686
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: saw it. There's some times that he struggled this year

687
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: and was a little up and down, and he struggled

688
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: with injury too. If he can put that behind him

689
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: and get it on it, maybe you don't, you know,

690
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: maybe your two tackles are okay, but you're into your

691
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: alignement art because there's some people who think you might

692
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: have go both guards and a right tackle to get

693
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: up to snuff, saying that Dion Dawkins and Mitch more

694
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: So you're kind of your two most reliable guys, and

695
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: with everybody else being on the turnover contract, wise you

696
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: might just do the guards instead of Spencer Brown as well.

697
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: Certainly they're going to bring in some competition, but there

698
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: you have it. I mean that I could see that,

699
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: I could get behind that, you know, Spencer Brown, giving

700
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: him still plugging him in there, giving him a chance

701
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: to do it. But you got to bring somebody in

702
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: in case he can't, because he did struggle at times.

703
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: And you know, and and I really think it's it's

704
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: a technique thing for him and an opponent awareness thing

705
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: more than it is an athleticism thing. I mean, people

706
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: forget he was a tight end going to Northern Iowa.

707
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: Northern Iowa, Do I have that right? Yes, yes, yes,

708
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: Northern Iowa. He was a tight end going there and

709
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: then became a tackle, played eight man football in high school,

710
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good athlete. I don't think it's a it's

711
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: a physical skill issue. I think it's a technique and

712
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: on field awareness understanding your opponent issue, because they crossed.

713
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: He's been crossed up by schemes sometimes where he kind

714
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: of isn't one hundred percent sure who he's got, you know,

715
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: the stunt games, the twist games. Sometimes he gets crossed

716
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: up there. I think a lot of the issues that

717
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: he had last season are fixable, and year three for

718
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: him is going to be just as big as it

719
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: was for Dawson Knox. Dawson Knox comes out in year

720
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: three and tears it up nine touchdowns, fifty catches, really

721
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: is an asset for the offense and then gets an

722
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: extension before he plays his fourth season. Spencer Brown has

723
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: to have that kind of year coming up in year three,

724
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: No if sands or butts, that's right, Yeah it. I like,

725
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: there's every reason to believe he's got the physical tools

726
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: to get it done and do it. And I like

727
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: it when he came out of rookie he was loving.

728
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: He plays with a little grit, He's got that little

729
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: attitude in him. He brings a lot to the table

730
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: of the Bill's like, but yeah, I think there's no

731
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: question this third year needs to be a big one. Also,

732
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: let's not forget his rookie year. He had Eric Washington.

733
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: His second year it was chromer and he maybe he

734
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: does need another year under Chromer to start getting it

735
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: with a different philosophy, different technique and different you know,

736
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: different coordinator. So a lot of things have changed around

737
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: around Spencer Brown that may have changed for him more

738
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: than we know, and he's still adjusting to it. Yeah,

739
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: there's that. I mean, you always talk about what Josh

740
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: Allen had to go through. Same thing with all the

741
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: other ten guys on the offense as well. We have

742
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but more of your phone calls.

743
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: When we return, Johnny and Rochester will lead us off.

744
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: So stay right where you are, but an open line

745
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: for you at eight O three oh five fifty one

746
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty the number to get on board.

747
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: What should be the Bill's main focus in free agency?

748
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: You can let us know on the phones or on

749
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. Either way, we're coming to you next

750
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned back to One

751
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we

752
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: go back to the phones. We were asking you today

753
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: what should be the Bill's main focus in free agency?

754
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: And leading us off this segment is Johnny and Rochester,

755
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Johnny, you're on one

756
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Hey, Chris Tasty, Hey, you guys doing good.

757
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go office of line, probably somebody like Ben

758
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: Powers or Dalton Riser or Will Hernandez and for like

759
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: a Veran behind uh special brown that your main guy

760
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: from Las Vegas Raiders. He's a free agent illuminoire yep, Okay,

761
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: all right, not bad? I mean, yeah, you got a

762
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: good list, and you're right, um. I think what is

763
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: coming down to, at least today in today's conversation, what

764
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Brownie and I are talking about is can you get

765
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: those guys? Can you fit them under the cap? And

766
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: how much of the available assets you have to get

767
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: your roster together are you gonna do on the offensive

768
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: line because it bye bye well by fact, The fact

769
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: is you've got to use some of it because you

770
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: don't have enough guys to feel the team yet. So

771
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna get some guys. How much of the assets

772
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: do they have left? And maybe this is a question

773
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: for closer to the draft. You know, how much of

774
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: your percentage of your assets are you going to use

775
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: on one position group? Yeah, certainly Brandon Bean doesn't have

776
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: the luxury of just doing one position group. He's got

777
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: to do twenty two of them, so well, twenty five

778
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: of them, so you got to get it right, um

779
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: how much of it? And certainly I agree with most

780
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: of the callers and most of the feedback we've gotten

781
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: on this question today. Priority one's line and then priority

782
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: two is weapons. Yeah, offensive weapons, and then do what

783
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: you can with the rest, you know, when you get

784
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: down to that point. And I'm not saying throw away that,

785
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: you know, to let Tremaine Edmunds walk, let Jordan Poory walk,

786
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: and let's go with you know, all the rookies we

787
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: gotten just draft some you know, I'm not saying that,

788
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: but that's where the priority list is. For me. It's

789
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: O line, it's weapons on the offensive side. And when

790
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: we say weapons, we're probably talking receiver, tight end. Well yeah,

791
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: probably not running back. Not running back. And I mean,

792
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: if you want to get a running back and Andrea

793
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: free agency or in the seventh round, I'll listen to that.

794
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: And the only thing other thing I would say too

795
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: is on the defensive side. For me, it always starts

796
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: once again with the defensive tackles down inside. I think

797
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: they're set at defensive end. They got guys, I'm bringing

798
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: another Harrison or Jordan Phillips bringing another Tim Settle, bringing

799
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: in a Dequan Jones. Get to make sure you got

800
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: those guys bolstered and really evaluate whether Ed Oliver is

801
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: going to be a part of the picture going forward

802
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be the last year his contract, all

803
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: of that stuff. But that's that's really the priority for me.

804
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: Even completely on the defensive side of the ball. You

805
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: can say which you want about Jordan point and how

806
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: important he is, and I agree, but they got they

807
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: got like one safety standing back there, so they got

808
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: to address that as well. But I'm not going to

809
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: panic because every other team in the league, as we

810
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: saw from the Tennessee Titans today, you know, they're all

811
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: kind of in the same boat, right and so there

812
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: may be even better options. That's right, that fall off

813
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: of the tree as salary cab cat he's in the

814
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: coming week or two where maybe you don't want to

815
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: jump on somebody right now because somebody better might come

816
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: along later who's looking for work after becoming a cap

817
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: casualty somewhere else. Because you lose a starting left tackle

818
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: like Taylor Luuan. He got cuts. Reportedly, he got cut

819
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: because he passed he can't pass a physical. Yeah, his

820
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: body's broken down. I don't think he's an option for

821
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: anybody on the free agent market, but his career is

822
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: probably over. He's probably gonna retire. That would be maybe,

823
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: that would be my bet. Yeah, let's get back to

824
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: the phones. Though. We go to Dave in Florida next.

825
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: What do you got for his? Dave? Hey, how you

826
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: guys doing today? A good listen? I just wanted to

827
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: talk about the timing that Josh has to throw the football,

828
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: which throws in your offensive line. It seems to me

829
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: like Burrow play Cincinnati is olive Tom Brady. I don't

830
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: understand how two to three seconds to release that ball

831
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: and if they do that, and that's going to bring

832
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: up the linebackers and then you could toss out to

833
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: Cook or whoever and bring them up, and then then

834
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: you can start the ball to Digs. The way I

835
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: look at it, I don't know if I'm wrong or right,

836
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: or if the players are called that way for Josh

837
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: to run. So the point, so the point you're making

838
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: is Burrow gets the ball out fast. Josh doesn't do

839
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: that often enough. And do you think that's a byproduct

840
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: of protection or do you think that's a byproduct of

841
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: Josh's decision making. I think it's protection, and I think

842
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: it's Dorsey's I don't know what he's calling them up there,

843
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: or if he's shut he's I don't I don't know. Yeah,

844
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: all right, I get what you're saying. Let's take a

845
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: stab at this, Dave, and thanks for the call. I

846
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: think this. I think it's a combination of things, as

847
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: most things are in football because there's just so many

848
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: moving parts, especially on offense. It's my contention, and this

849
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: is just my opinion based on what I've seen, that

850
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: there are options for Josh to get the ball out

851
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: quickly on every it's within the scope of the play design.

852
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: So to blanket blame Ken Dorsey for not having plays

853
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: in the offense that enables Josh to get the ball

854
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: out of his hand quickly is kind of a foolhardy

855
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: stance to take, because most plays in an offensive playbook

856
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: have a short, intermediate, and deep route within the concept,

857
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: and the short route is there to give Josh the

858
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: option to get the ball out of his hand quickly.

859
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: There are times where we've seen Josh, with checkdown options

860
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: choose to hold onto the ball an extra second to

861
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: throw a deeper, lower percentage pass in the hopes of

862
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: making a big play. There are times in games where

863
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: that's absolutely warranted. There are times in the game when

864
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: maybe you're up seventeen, that that's not the best approach

865
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: to take. So I think some of it falls on

866
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: Josh's own decision making, some of it falls on protection

867
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: and the consistency of it. I think the least of

868
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: it falls on Ken Dorsey. Because plays are naturally designed

869
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: to have short, intermediate, and long options. Joe Burrow changed

870
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: his entire approach to football this year. On offense, he

871
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: chose to take an approach in concert with his coordinator

872
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: to have a multitude of options in the short to

873
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: intermediate area to give him even more opportunity to get

874
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: the ball out on average in two and a half seconds.

875
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes reduced his yards per attempt precipitously this year

876
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: because he no longer had Tyreek hill to take a

877
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: short pass and go sixty yards, and he was not

878
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: running as many go routes. You had Marquez Valdez scantling,

879
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: but he was new to the equation. He relied on

880
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: short to intermediate passing. He had one of his highest

881
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: completion percentages of his career. He led the league in passing,

882
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs led the league in scoring. There is

883
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: merit to having a high efficiency shorter passing game in

884
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: this league. Could advacillate back and forth from one year

885
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: to the next, yes, but it's a proven high efficiency model.

886
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: It's how Tom Brady won seven Super Bowls. That's right.

887
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: And it's not just way of magic one and all

888
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's gonna happen. It has to be

889
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: a philosophical thing, and it has to be something your

890
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: quarterback buys into your offensive line and all that, and

891
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: no question, one of the reasons that Cincinnati moved away

892
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: from that and towards what Joe Burrow and company do

893
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: now is because Joe Burrow wasn't finishing games and getting whacked.

894
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: They started to invest in the offensive line, and Joe

895
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: learned a very hard lesson about staying upright. You gotta

896
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: if you don't have the ball, they won't hit you.

897
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: They're not allowed to hit you. So he started getting

898
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. Josh, he don't care if they

899
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: hit him. Let's face it, that guy's taking it on.

900
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: He doesn't have that fear. He wants. He wants to

901
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: put pressure on the defense, and they're really good at it.

902
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: The Bill scored more points than the Bengals did this year.

903
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: That's and one of the reasons is because Josh has

904
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: got a gun that can throw all over the yard.

905
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of that too. Josh Nique Cat,

906
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: just like Mahomes, is a unique guy. So I'm I'm

907
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: totally with you. I think it'd be really smart for

908
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: the Bills to build this offense around getting the ball

909
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: out of Josh's hands, forcing the defense to respect and

910
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: attack the short passing game and really worry about it,

911
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: just getting nickel and dimes and then all of a sudden,

912
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: as we saw early in the season this last year,

913
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: the big play comes as a result. Yeah, but I

914
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: don't put that on as much on the offensive liner,

915
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: on Ken Dorsey's I do on Josh. Now, that's just

916
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: Josh wanting to be He's playing his game, and you know,

917
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: he's really good. This just in there's got to be

918
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: a balance, maybe a better balance that they have to

919
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: strike in that area of the passing game. And maybe

920
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: that's what they work on this offseason. And we're splitting hairs. Well, yeah,

921
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: because there's still a juggernaut offense. They were a crushing offense.

922
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: They were they were a big problem from teams to

923
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: play against. They won thirteen games and two of the

924
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: three losses were were fumbled away or given. They were

925
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: absolutely gave away two of the three losses this year.

926
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: NFL Network gave them away. NFL Network ran the Week

927
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: ten game between the Bills and the Vikings and Steve

928
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: was throwing fits in the office at the end of

929
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: the third quarter of the Bills are up twenty seven

930
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: to ten on the Vikings and had whatever. Yeah, they

931
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: ended up losing it in overtime. We gotta we have

932
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: to take a break. When we come back, though, we're

933
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: gonna be talking with Pro Football focuses. Salary CAP analyst one.

934
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: Brad Spielberger will be joining us as we dice up

935
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: some of the numbers the Bills front office is looking

936
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: at and what might be the best course of action

937
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: to get in CAP compliance by March fifteenth. Brad Spielberger

938
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: coming your way next. Here on One Bills Live presented

939
00:51:47,280 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio is One Bills

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00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: Live presented by called light a health All right, here

941
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: we are I'll number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

942
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you one Bill's Live as the show

943
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: please to be joined now a contributor to Over the Cap.

944
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: I've been with PFF since twenty twenty one. It is

945
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Focus Salary CAP analyst. Brad Spielberger joining

946
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: us on the show. Brad, good to have you back.

947
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: It is that time of year, cap compliance time. The

948
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: clock is ticking the Titans around in front and leading

949
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: this race right now with the three CAP casualties they

950
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: hacked off their roster today. My first question to you

951
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: is this in comparison to some of the other teams

952
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: with a formidable task in front of them in terms

953
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: of getting under the cap, where would you rank the

954
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: amount of work that Brandon Bean and his pro personnel

955
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: staff have to do with getting into CAP compliance. Yeah.

956
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: So they're obviously in right now the bottom five and

957
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: projected cap space, not quite at the level of a

958
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay or New Orleans. And they do have some

959
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: easy levers to pull if they restructure Josh Allen's to

960
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Fond Diggs, those two moves alone would get them back

961
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: into compliance. But I think the interesting thing for them,

962
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: or maybe the tough thing for them, is not a

963
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: lot of obvious cuts, not a lot of obvious maybe

964
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: extension candidates that could help you push cap down the road.

965
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure they would love to extend, to have wanted

966
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: to extend a guy like Ed Oliver, but I'm not

967
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: sure they do at this point in time. So you

968
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: know they can do it, but it's not going to

969
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: be through kind of like the Titans, where you clear

970
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: twenty nine million dollars by just moving on from players cleanly.

971
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: It's more likely going to be by pushing that credit card,

972
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: that pushing that can down the road. And how you

973
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: know successful can you be doing that? I mean, look

974
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: at the two teams at the top of the heap

975
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: this last year, the Eagles in the Chiefs. What can

976
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: you learn from how they handled that to maybe build

977
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: your own roster. If you're the Bills, who are like

978
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: have been on the cusp for three years now, what

979
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: can they learn from those teams? Yeah, so you can

980
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: do it. You can get away with it for a while,

981
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: especially if you have a franchise quarterback like a Josh Allen. Look,

982
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: the Eagles had the most prided money in the entire NFL,

983
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: meaning they've put the most money into bonuses that they

984
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: then push out into the future. They have a very

985
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: bullish owner that doesn't really mind a ton of money really,

986
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: not only on the roster but on coaches and everything

987
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: they do, and so that enables them to be really

988
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: really aggressive and spend a ton and always just push

989
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: those cap hits down the line. Kansas City, you know,

990
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: took a step back this year. They were about twentieth

991
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: in cash spending. Obviously traded Tiree Kill. They did not

992
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: restructure Patrick Mahomes's deal as they've done the year prior,

993
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, taking that bigger hit in twenty twenty two

994
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: to avoid, you know, like I said, kicking that can

995
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: down the road. So you can do it, you can't

996
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: get away with it for star players that you know

997
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: are going to be there, like a Josh Allen and

998
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of the benefit of his six year extension.

999
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: That's why you have that there. You just don't want

1000
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: to do it in perpetuity and start doing it on

1001
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, thirty plus year old players and guys that

1002
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: are not in your long term plans. But obviously those

1003
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: guys are Yeah, and I think the general consensus, just

1004
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: from a sheer numbers standpoint as well as how do

1005
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: we improve the roster standpoint, the general consensus here is,

1006
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, they've got to kind of refortify the offensive line.

1007
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: The way that Brandon Bean has done it to a

1008
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: great degree since he's gotten here is with a lot

1009
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: of one year contracts. There's been some exceptions, some two

1010
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: year deals here. Mitch Morse was obviously the big, fat,

1011
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: top of the market deal, but the only one really

1012
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: that they've ever used on an offensive lineman. I'm kind

1013
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: of wondering if it helps them cap wise to maybe

1014
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: find a free agent match that definitely is an upgrade

1015
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: for the line number one, but then number two is

1016
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: a player they feel comfortable signing to a two, three,

1017
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: maybe even a four year deal to kind of spread

1018
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: the money out more effectively. I know Ben Powers is

1019
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: a name that's come up even in some of your

1020
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: writeups and stuff. So what do you think about going

1021
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: down that Avenue as a change of course in fortifying

1022
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah, they have, and I think to

1023
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: a degree I appreciate it he was doing, which was

1024
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: kind of just throwing a bunch of resources and almost saying,

1025
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, one of these guys is going to work out.

1026
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: If we bring in a bunch of mid tier guards

1027
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: on those shorter term deals, maybe one will stick. But

1028
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: it kind of hasn't really worked out obviously. Roger Steffield

1029
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: was a bigger expenditure, a former very good player, kind

1030
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: of you know, in the twilight of his career. Maybe

1031
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, is done after this season. Certainly not a

1032
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: great year for him, and they did pay him a

1033
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: decent amount. So I think it could be a point

1034
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: where you say, look, we obviously don't want to spend

1035
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: a ton on premium positions. We have, you know, edge rusher, receiver, quarterback, etc.

1036
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: But it's a pretty solid guard marketing free agency this offseason.

1037
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: They're a handful of good players and I don't think

1038
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna break the bank and get something, you know,

1039
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: dramatically large deal, So it probably could be a good idea.

1040
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: I think you need to solidify that left guard spot,

1041
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: and I think a gout like Ben Powers from Baltimore,

1042
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: who you mentioned, you know, I put about a month ago,

1043
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: is a great fit for the Bills. I mean, I

1044
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: think he does make a lot of sense for the

1045
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: team and is there now if you get a Ben Parents,

1046
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: now that's one spot. Certainly you've got to fill out

1047
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: your roster, and as has happened for a lot of teams,

1048
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: you need eight nine guys going into a season that

1049
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: can play both as swing tackles. Is there any of

1050
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: these free agents that could be safe a swing guard

1051
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: or a guard center or a swing tackle like like

1052
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: Dan Kessenberry was for the Bills this year? Are there

1053
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: guys like that on this market? And who would it be?

1054
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: I think it is a good year to need a

1055
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: swing tackle, no question. I mean the bigger name, a

1056
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: guy in the AFC East, like a George Fans coming

1057
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: from New York, was obviously looking for that extension before

1058
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: the season, did not and did not have a great year.

1059
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm guessing his market is not going to be as

1060
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: strong as maybe he'd hoped, and he's proven he can

1061
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: play on both sides of the line. I got a

1062
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: Jermaine Illumino with the Las Vegas Raiders more of a

1063
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: right tackle, but I think in a pinch, if you

1064
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: needed to play him at left tackle for a game

1065
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: or two, you'd probably get away with it. There are

1066
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: a handful of guys like that, where again, You're not

1067
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: going to break the bank, but you could have a

1068
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: potential stop gap the right tackle for the Broncos. This pastor,

1069
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: I want to say, Calvin Anderson, I apologizem blanket now

1070
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that's his name. But you know, there

1071
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: are a handful of good options where again you're spending

1072
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: two three million dollars a year and bring in a

1073
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: guy that if you have some injuries, you can be

1074
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: confident in your replacement at that position. Another position that

1075
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: is short on numbers for Buffalo that is kind of

1076
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: going under the radar is the safety position. Everybody knows

1077
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: that Jordan Poyer is a free agent, but so too

1078
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: is Jaquan Johnson, Dean Marlowe. And then nobody knows what

1079
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: the future of Damar Hamlin holds. He's under contract, but

1080
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's playing this fall. And then

1081
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: you have Christian Benford, who they may transition to safety.

1082
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: But is that a guy you're gonna want to thrust

1083
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: into a starting lineup and a go for its Super

1084
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: Bowl year? I don't know. So it's basically Micah Hyde

1085
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: and Christian Benford. I mean that's so, maybe first from

1086
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: a market standpoint, what does the safety market look like.

1087
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: And then to get at least a capable starter to

1088
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: work with high that you feel good about. How close

1089
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: to the top of the market money do you have

1090
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: to get there, because if you have to get too

1091
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: close to the top, then what's the point of not

1092
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 1: bringing power back? And this again works in Buffalo's favor.

1093
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: The safety market is flooded in free agency pretty much

1094
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: every offseason. Is probably why despite how good and reliable

1095
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer had been before this season, they just, frankly,

1096
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: we're not comfortable getting him the extension he was looking for.

1097
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: You can add a starting caliber safety and freegency for three,

1098
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: four or five million dollars a year, and that is

1099
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: again the cases here. You could go more the veteran

1100
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: route and look into some the guys like a Marcus

1101
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: Epps Philadelphia Eagles, like a Deron Harmon, and even older

1102
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: veteran Rodney McLeod, a very old player, but it was

1103
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: really good, less than Indianapolis or you know, the mid tier.

1104
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: Look at a guy like Von Bell coming off his

1105
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: deal with to Cincinnati Bengals, probably gonna be more expensive,

1106
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: maybe seven eight billion dollars a year, but again not

1107
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: breaking the bank by any means even that might be

1108
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: a little bit high. So that is I think why

1109
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: they weren't comfortable going there, and it does benefit them.

1110
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: You can get a guy who can start for you

1111
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: for not a ton of money at that position. Right now,

1112
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: one of the guys that really spread his wings this year,

1113
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: it was Tremaine Edmonds had his first had a Pro

1114
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: Bowl year, played much better, certainly got upgraded defensive tackle

1115
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: play in front of him, but really seemed to sprout.

1116
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: And he's also one of those players very young and

1117
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: has got a ton of experience. He seems to be

1118
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: the absolute prime target for a lot of teams. He's

1119
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: been very polarizing during his career here in Buffalo. People

1120
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: have expected more of him than what he's done, more

1121
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: accolades for him than what he's received. But still there

1122
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams out there who seemed to

1123
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: put Tremaine Edmonds right in the crosshairs of where they

1124
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: would like their linebacking corps to b Yeah, I'll tell

1125
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: you right now, I'd be somewhat surprised if he's back

1126
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: in Buffalo because I do think he now with the

1127
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: news of Dron Payne, the interior defender for Washington Commanders.

1128
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: You know, everyone expects him to get a franchise tag.

1129
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: There's a chance of Edmund signs the biggest contract for

1130
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: a defensive player in all of free agency. I mean

1131
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: we're talking, you know, seventeen eighteen million dollars per year, because,

1132
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, he is still super young, gonna be

1133
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: twenty five years old in his sixth season next year

1134
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: or at least you know the beginning of it. And

1135
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: then also, you know, a freakish athlete, a guy that

1136
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: was coming in ahead all the tools and finally had

1137
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: that breakout year. This year is best coverage great for

1138
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: us by a mile. This past season. Always been a

1139
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: great sideline to sideline. Top ten in stops, which is,

1140
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, not just tackles, but plays that are not

1141
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: a positive for the offense for us the last five

1142
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: years as well. He's gonna get a monster contract and

1143
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: free agency, and I don't know if the Bills are

1144
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the one given it to him, right yeah.

1145
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I think if he gets into that territory, the Bills

1146
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: are probably out. So with that in mind, what does

1147
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: the lineback your market look like in terms of viable,

1148
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: starting caliber replacements that won't break the bank. Similar to

1149
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: my safety question, I guess and I have a similar answer,

1150
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: and this is not usually the case, but it's, in

1151
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 1: my opinion, maybe the best free agent market for off

1152
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: ball linebackers we've seen in a very long time. Not

1153
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: only at the top with a guy like from Edmunds,

1154
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: with guys like David Long and Tennessee. You know, other

1155
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: players Taj Edwards in Philadelphia are really good. There's also

1156
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: a lot of mid tier options. One player I mentioned

1157
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: to them in the past on PFF was Laton vander esh.

1158
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a great fit opposite of Matt Milano.

1159
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: Not quite the coverage player, but Kinshack instead is a bigger,

1160
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: more physical player, and I think would pair well opposite Milano.

1161
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: Not a liability and courage by any means. Still a

1162
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: very good athlete. Obviously a first round pick for a reason,

1163
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: but you know, because of some of the injuries, he's

1164
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: not going to get a monster deal, but is a

1165
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: very good player and I think a good fit. You

1166
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: also could look to a guy like Germaine Pratt coming

1167
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: out of Cincinnati. He's a player they didn't really trust

1168
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 1: on third downs, took him off the field a lot,

1169
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 1: not really in love with his coverage ability. But again

1170
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: with Matt Milana, you can get creative guys like Bobby

1171
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: yoku Riki with Indianapolis Colds another option. There are a

1172
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: ton of options available. You want to get even cheaper,

1173
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Kaiser White, guy like Denzel Perriman. I

1174
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: think those guys are looking at three, four or five

1175
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: million dollars per year. You know, the sound of the

1176
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: Bills are in a good spot with the positions they

1177
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: need and the available talent and the price point this offseason.

1178
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: And one of the fun things about every offseason is

1179
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: that all these positions we've been talking about, safety, linebacker,

1180
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, wide received, all these things just seem to

1181
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit cut and dried with where they're at.

1182
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: But when you start talking about free agent quarterbacks, it's

1183
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: almost becomes like a soap opera because now we start

1184
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: to include their personalities and their successes and favors of

1185
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: the past, and we tend to give them more of

1186
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: an emotional content to this conversation. You got Derek Carr

1187
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: going to the Jets and when it was reported they're

1188
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: telling him he's gonna be a first ballot Hall of

1189
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: Famer when he gets there, Aaron Rodgers goes into a

1190
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: dark cave for four days to come out, and just

1191
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: like he did last year, and he you know, he

1192
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: seems to be looking for the Packers to express their

1193
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: undying love and affection again before he comes back to them.

1194
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: So how do you see this quarterback market shaking out?

1195
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: Certainly there are fewer big name guys available than even

1196
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: we've seen in the recent past. You know, I think

1197
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers might be taking Derek Carr spot in Las Vegas.

1198
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm just not really sure what their plan is beyond

1199
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: making that big splash for at Aaron Rodgers, right, I mean,

1200
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: you can't cut a top twenty quarterback and have you

1201
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: know Davante Adams, Darren Waller, all these big contracts all

1202
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: over your roster, and then just what bring in like

1203
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: a journeyman, you know, game managing veteran or maybe make

1204
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: a draft pick at seven or trade up whatever. Maybe

1205
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: that's a realistic option, but it just seems kind of

1206
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: crazy to me that they wouldn't take that big swing

1207
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: with all the investments they've made with trying to make

1208
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: Las Vegas a destination and fans from you know, all

1209
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: La and oak Linton in all the places they've been

1210
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: located in the past to come to Las Vegas and

1211
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: watch these games, So I think he goes there. If

1212
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: I had to guess, I still think Derek Carrs of

1213
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: the Jets comments which are pretty funny, I still think

1214
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: he lands in the New Orleans Saints has the connection

1215
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: to Dennis Allen as former head coach with the Raiders.

1216
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: Just also, I think just makes sense playing in a

1217
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: dome in a warm environment. They have the best offensive

1218
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: line or one of the best offensive lines he'll ever

1219
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: play with, good young receiver and Chris a Lave That

1220
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: just makes a ton of sense to me as well.

1221
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: What do you think the market is for Michael Thomas

1222
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: the Saints free agent receiver who obviously has some impressive,

1223
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: impressive seasons on his resume, but for the most part,

1224
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: hasn't played for the last two years. How do you

1225
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: handicap what he's going to be able to command in

1226
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: terms of average annual salary? Like, is he gonna be

1227
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: top of the market, is he gonna be Tier two,

1228
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: or is he gonna be like one year prove it deal?

1229
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: What are we looking at there? I would guess one

1230
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: year prove a deal because typically if a team's not

1231
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: going to give a player the multi year deal that

1232
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: they think is commensurate with their talent and their production.

1233
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: And yes, he's been hurt, but I think he would

1234
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: still probably point to his past production and also the

1235
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: three games he played this year. I mean, he was

1236
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: pretty good, scored a couple of touchdowns, was a good player.

1237
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: So my guess is a one year prove a deal.

1238
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: I think a team like Kansas City makes all the

1239
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: sense in the world. And try to just emulate with

1240
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: Jujusmus Schuster just did, which is take a a maybe

1241
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: smaller deal, chuck full of incentives, and then you know,

1242
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: earn those incentives by playing in a high powered offense.

1243
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: So I have it around one year, ten million dollars,

1244
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: and then it's hey, if you stay healthy, you play well,

1245
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: you look even like eighty five percent of Michael Thomas

1246
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: in the past, someone will sign you to a multi

1247
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: year deal of a larger value. I will say, though, two,

1248
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: there there are some questions beyond the injuries. You talk

1249
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: to people around the league kind of some question marks

1250
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: of him, you know, bring him into a locker room,

1251
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that. There are a lot of questions Ronnie

1252
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas right now, and most of them have to

1253
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: do with his ability to stay on the field, correct,

1254
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: because the guy's skills when he's on the field are elite,

1255
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: no question about it. Yeah, with respect to trades, I

1256
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: know you put together a write up for PFF five

1257
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: trades to watch out for in the twenty twenty three

1258
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: NFL offseason. I want to throw this one at you

1259
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: and just get your thoughts on it. So we've talked

1260
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: about how Edmonds is probably priced out of Buffalo's range

1261
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: at least as things currently sit. Now, what if, hypothetically

1262
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: they find a trade partner for ed Oliver to move

1263
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: his ten point seven off the roster in an effort

1264
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: to clear enough money to keep Tremaine Edmunds on it.

1265
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: What do we think the interest level might be in

1266
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Speaker 1: an ed Oliver obviously knowing there would probably have to

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Speaker 1: be a contract extension involved, knowing he's entering his fifth

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Speaker 1: year option, And that's the key for the acquiring team

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: is they would probably try to keep the compensation down

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Speaker 1: a little bit, knowing that, hey, we have to bring

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Speaker 1: this guy in and immediately give him a very large

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Speaker 1: new deal because he's gonna have leverage against us by

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Speaker 1: US bring you know, by US trading capital for him.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think the interesting thing too, there is

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Speaker 1: not quite the same level of wide receiver last offseason,

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Speaker 1: but I think we're going to see a market explosion

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Speaker 1: at interior defensive line that is close to what we

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Speaker 1: saw last off season, and mainly because of Oliver's draft

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Speaker 1: class with Quinny Williams, Jeffrey Simmons, Dexter Lawrence, all these

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Speaker 1: really really really good players. You know, maybe you get

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Speaker 1: lucky and get a second but I would guess is

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Speaker 1: probably a third round pick and change again with the

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Speaker 1: understanding of, hey, we got to give this guy a

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Speaker 1: monster new deal. Maybe not the level of those guys

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, but still a sizeable new contract for him

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Speaker 1: at a position that the elite players just aren't hitting

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Speaker 1: free agency, just like a wide receiver. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not try to put him in the elite player conversation,

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: but even players of his caliber, you don't see them

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Speaker 1: hit free agency every day. So a Day two pick,

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Speaker 1: I think is still possible. But I wonder if Buffalo

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Speaker 1: thinks that's worth it, or you just maybe hope you

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: get some growth. He takes a leap and you see

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Speaker 1: that you know the player you hoped you were getting

1295
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Speaker 1: when he took him top ten a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Or what does the free agent defensive tack or interior

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Speaker 1: defensive line look like? That free agent class this year

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01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: also phenomenal. I mentioned in the beginning Washington Commanders and

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Speaker 1: Drohn Payne. He probably was the prize from a young

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: player that is a you know, building block, foundational piece.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like he's gonna be back in Washington on a

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01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: franchise tag. But von Harger with the Philadelphia Eagles could

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: be a tough player for Philly to retain to obviously

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01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: pay a ton of guys, most notably Jill and Hurts

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01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Maybe he gets out and there's a lot

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: of like second tier guys, a guy like Draymond Jones

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: and Denver. I've had a bunch of conversations with teams

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: around the league that think he's gonna get a bigger

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01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: deal than a lot of people realize. A really good

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: interior pass rusher as flexibility can play an odd even front.

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: I think he makes more sense as a three four

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01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: defensive end, but you know, some teams think he could

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01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: play three technique and hold up, all right, you have

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01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: Zach Alo the Arizona Cardinals kind of similar you know player,

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: but I think also could play honestly as a defensive

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01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: end and a four or three potentially as well. So

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Speaker 1: it's a deep class as well as guys like Morgan

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01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: Fox from Los Angeles Chargers, a bunch of other players

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: also a good group and maybe an area where the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo could add not a huge guy, but but a

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Speaker 1: solid mid tier edition there as well. All right, So

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Speaker 1: last one for me, Brad. We saw last offseason some

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Speaker 1: top flight, top of the market wide receivers get traded

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,799
Speaker 1: Davantae Adams, Tyreek Hill, and that was with a very

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Speaker 1: strong receiver class in the draft. The class this year

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01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 1: not considered to have quite as many alpha male receivers

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Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. What is the likely

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,879
Speaker 1: is there an even greater likelihood of big name receiver

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Speaker 1: movement again this offseason with you know, DeAndre Hopkins, T Higgins,

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Speaker 1: maybe Brandon Cooks gets traded again. What is the You

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: think there's an even greater likelihood that we see that

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: again this offseason. I think we'll see more veterans this

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Speaker 1: time around. So two, you men, DeAndre Hopkins and Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: If on April first, they're on the Cardinals and Texans,

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Speaker 1: I'd be surprised. Like I think those guys are getting

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01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: moved in the near future. I guy like Tea Higgins,

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Speaker 1: you know, Cincinnati just doesn't really like to play that game.

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Speaker 1: I know I projected him in a trade. I think

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01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for those two sides to work

1340
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: out a long term extension. But Sincinnati is comfortable going

1341
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: to franchise tag round and just letting things play out.

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Speaker 1: I think in nan that no one's talking about that

1343
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: is very interesting to me is Brandon iik with the

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01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. If we're talking about younger players,

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: you know, going into the is fifth year option, very

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: very good, this year, very productive. But with all the

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: investments they've made all over their roster, with a guy

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 1: like Nick Bosa probably looking for thirty million dollars a

1349
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: year this offseason, maybe someone can coax them and convince

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: them to trade him away. But realistically, I think it's

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: more gonna be the veteran guys Cooks and Hopkins. I

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01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: think we'll lead the way. And like I said, I

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: think we'll see those in the next month or so.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, man, Thanks Brad. We appreciate you coming on

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: with us and give us some time. Thank you. All right,

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01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: that's Brad Spielberger. He is the Pro Football Focus salary

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: cap expert. So good to get the four to one

1358
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: one from him on that and free agency for that matter.

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: As he was kind of breaking down position by position,

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01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: and it sounds like, and we kind of surmise this

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01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: just kind of looking over the lists that at some

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01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: of the positions where the Bills need numbers, there are

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01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: going to be options. It's just a matter of how

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01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 1: aggressive the Bills want to be in pursuing those options,

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: Like do you want to get into bidding war. They're

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01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: not really in a position to do that. They have

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: to find a guy that they believe they can lock

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01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: down with the proper value assessed to him, like, hey,

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01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: this is what we can budget for at this position,

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01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: who fits that price range? And b can we convince

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Speaker 1: him this is the place he should be And if

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Speaker 1: they can do that, well, then yeah, you could do

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Speaker 1: pretty well at guard this offseason. You could do pretty

1374
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: well at getting some veteran safety insurance, you know, knowing

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: that Benford is going to be literal really learning on

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: the fly. I mean, that's a risky proposition to go

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Speaker 1: into a go for a year with Micah Hyde and

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Speaker 1: Christian Benford. That's not I don't know if that's realistic.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not realistic that those are the only two

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01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: guys that are going to be an option. Certainly, they're

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01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: going to have to bring in some competition, and some

1382
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: probably some veteran competition who have had more experience. But

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01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 1: I'll say this too, we've heard from the very beginning

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01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: this coaching staff rave about how Christian Benford is. I

1385
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know why you can how to explain an old soul,

1386
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: very mature or very down to earth, very studied and

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01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: serious in his approach to the game. It would be

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01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: better in some respects for Christian Benford to walk in

1389
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: to the room as a safety, as a first year

1390
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: starting safety after having played in the league for a year,

1391
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: than it would be for a safety coming from the

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01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 1: college ranks to come in and play the same spot.

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01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: I think anyways, that's how the Bills roll in the

1394
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: younger play. I think it's really it makes a lot

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01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: of sense for the Bills and the way they do

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: business like you said that they would let a guy

1397
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: who's already had a year in the defense to switch positions,

1398
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: particularly in the back end of the defense. I could

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01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: see them having a lot more confidence in that than

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: even a rookie that they drafted this same year at

1401
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: the same position. I'm gonna give you a perfect example,

1402
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: Cam Lewis. Right training camp, they transitioned cam Lewis to

1403
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: the safety position. He's got three years in the league

1404
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: and they transition him to safety. That guy didn't see

1405
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: the field until two other safeties got hurt Jordan Poyer

1406
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: and Dean Marlowe before he saw the field. So to

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01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: think that a second year player playing safety for the

1408
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 1: first I know he played a little bit of safety

1409
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: at Villanova, but mainly corner play safety at this level

1410
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: for the first time, to think he is going to

1411
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: start out of the shoot in week one. If he

1412
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: can do it, that's great. And he did it as

1413
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick at corner in week one. Right,

1414
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: granted partly at a necessity with tradevious White not ready,

1415
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: but I think if if this defend, if staff had

1416
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: their brothers, they would rather have Micah Hide and bringing

1417
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: in a veteran at five million dollars a year, perhaps

1418
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: like a van Bell to start, and then if Benford

1419
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: overtakes him through the course of the year in the

1420
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: practice setting, well then okay, let's have that conversation. But

1421
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 1: I think they want veteran insurance at that position to start,

1422
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: at least at the beginning of the year. I think

1423
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: they'll treat Benford like, you know, an incoming rookie of

1424
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: the position. But I'll say this, and we do this

1425
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: all the time. It's just natural. We've been doing it

1426
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: just right here and saying, well, this guy did it

1427
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: and he struggled, this other guy did this other thing

1428
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: and he struggled. That doesn't mean every guy who does

1429
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: it struggles. They're all different. Even the guys who who

1430
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: do make a position change or come into the league

1431
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: and struggle in one way, shape or form, they all

1432
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: struggle for different reasons. So just because cam Lewis couldn't

1433
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: get on the field before three safeties went got hurt,

1434
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean Christian Benford is not going to come in

1435
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: and play extremely well there. And I think the coaching

1436
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: staff knows it, But it doesn't give you more confidence

1437
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: that it's going to happen. It does give you less

1438
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: confidence even though they're completely different guys. I think this

1439
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: coaching staff wouldn't have gotten to the point where they're

1440
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,520
Speaker 1: talking about it had Benford not already shown the aptitude

1441
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: to get it done. So there is that. I think

1442
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe with cam Lewis, they did it because they

1443
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: got put into a hard spot and because he wasn't

1444
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 1: going to be able to stick around as a corner,

1445
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: and they said, well, he might be able to do

1446
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,520
Speaker 1: it as a safety, and they gave him that option. Benford,

1447
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: I think there's no question he could stick around as

1448
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 1: a corner if he wanted to, but he may be

1449
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 1: a backup if Elam now seems to be the starting

1450
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: corner across from Trevia. So now, if they want to

1451
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: get a better athlete and a better guy on the field,

1452
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: they do it much like they do on the offensive line.

1453
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: They start the five best guys, and if a guy

1454
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: gets hurt, they shuffle those four guys that stay on

1455
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: the field to their spots and then put the plug

1456
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: the other guy in at his best spot. So I

1457
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: think that's a little bit of what you're seeing in

1458
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: this secondary shuffle. They're gonna put the four, well, five

1459
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: five best dbs on the field in this defense no

1460
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: matter what they have to play, and they love right

1461
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: now it's Benford because they don't have another safety put

1462
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: out there and they love putting converted corners at the

1463
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: safety position. Jordan Poyer was drafted as a corner, was

1464
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: made of safety here and then the same thing with

1465
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde. He was a nickel corner in Green Bay.

1466
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: They transitioned him to safety here. Both of them have

1467
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: been to Pro Bowls, etc. Etc. Because they like guys

1468
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: who can cover, yeah and safe. Even though they move

1469
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: them to safety, doesn't mean they don't have the techniques

1470
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: or the understanding of how to cover guys one on one.

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01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: That's first and foremost. Break time here for us, But

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Speaker 1: we're back with your thoughts on the tweet sheet as

1473
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: we are asking you what should be the Bill's main

1474
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: focus in free agency? More of your phone calls, more

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01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: of your tweets next year on one Bill's Live stay

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Speaker 1: too all right, Time to hit the tweet sheet where

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Speaker 1: we've been asking you what should the Bill's main focus

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Speaker 1: be in free agency? Tweet sheet is always brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company,

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and Go Bills, says offensive lineman. Because

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Speaker 1: we need both a guard and a right tackle, we

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Speaker 1: also need a backup center. If you don't count Bates,

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Speaker 1: I would probably count Bits in the equation as a

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Speaker 1: backup center option. But if you want to get another one,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. As a matter of fact, I think you

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Speaker 1: have knowing that as a general manager you have to

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Speaker 1: be forward thinking. You always have to be thinking a

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Speaker 1: year or two ahead. Even though Mitch Morse was the

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Speaker 1: most consistent offensive line and on this roster last year

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, from start to finish, how many more

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Speaker 1: seasons is he going to play? That's a viable question

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Speaker 1: to ask. He's aged thirty. I trying to remember if

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Speaker 1: he turns thirty one this season. I mean, it could

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Speaker 1: still be a very good player for you for the

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Speaker 1: next two or three years. But do you need to

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Speaker 1: start thinking about somebody with guard center flexibility who could

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Speaker 1: come in and be a starting left guard for you.

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Speaker 1: But maybe in two years he's your starting center and

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Speaker 1: then you just fill guard again. Yeah, you can draft

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Speaker 1: guys who are guarding slash centers who play center in

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Speaker 1: college and are big and burly enough to move out

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Speaker 1: to guard. Certainly you can do that. That's what they

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Speaker 1: did with Eric Wood when they drafted back in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine. He was a center in college, but

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Speaker 1: they had Jeff hand Gardner here. He started at left

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Speaker 1: guard when he first came here. The center at Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: is a kid named Tipman who saw six six three

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Speaker 1: bills plus place center. You move him to guard and

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Speaker 1: then move him down to center or use him as

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Speaker 1: your backup center if something happens to Morris, but you

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have to pick him in the draft.

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Speaker 1: That's right. He's not going to be a rookie free agent.

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Speaker 1: So that kind of thing, that kind of tactic you

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Speaker 1: could use. Now, certainly, the tactics you're going to have

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Speaker 1: in the draft are going to be dictated by who

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Speaker 1: you've got on your roster after free agency, and that's

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Speaker 1: up in the air. Well. And we know Brandon being's

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Speaker 1: approaching free agency since he's been here, is to fill

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Speaker 1: as many holes on the roster as possible in free

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Speaker 1: agency so he doesn't feel like he's got such a

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Speaker 1: dire positional need that he strays away from his best

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Speaker 1: player available philosophy in the draft. So I would expect

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Speaker 1: him to, you know, sign a number of free agents,

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Speaker 1: probably not at high prices. He may have to go

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Speaker 1: the one year route in many cases again this season,

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Speaker 1: but maybe there is a second tier option at a

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Speaker 1: need position in free agency where he says, you know what,

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Speaker 1: let's do a longer term contract for a free agent

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Speaker 1: guard that we know we can plug and play and

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Speaker 1: we're set there for the next three years. Let's sign

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Speaker 1: that guy to a three year deal, spread out the

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Speaker 1: money and do it that way, and then we'll backfill

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Speaker 1: with some one year guys, and then we'll still try

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Speaker 1: to swing for an offensive lineman that has starting potential

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Speaker 1: as a rookie or could be a starter as early

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Speaker 1: as year two. Maybe in the draft. I wouldn't be around.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be out of the question. Think about it,

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Speaker 1: because they can do it. They did it before Spencer

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Speaker 1: Brown and Tommy Doyle same year as Boogiebat Greg Rousseau.

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Speaker 1: The top four guys were all lineman defensive and offensive.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. That kind of you can get

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Speaker 1: guys who can, particularly the interior offensive line, because there's

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Speaker 1: less space, and which you need is a big body

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Speaker 1: with some good feet and those guys are a little

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Speaker 1: bit easier to find. Even if you draft an offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle in the college ranks who's athletic and all that,

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Speaker 1: he can certainly move down easier in play guard because

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Speaker 1: there's less space for him. He doesn't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about a speed rusher off the corner, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills do that,

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Speaker 1: if they get into a spot where you know their

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Speaker 1: roster moves, and free agency gives them the ability to

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Speaker 1: do it, To go with these positions a ton in

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Speaker 1: the draft and get some guys and throw some competition

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Speaker 1: at it, like that Tommy Doyle, Spencer Brown, those kind

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Speaker 1: of guys and like Russo and bash them from Let's

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Speaker 1: go Buffalo on the tweet sheet, take a lot of

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Speaker 1: empties back to the store, gets some spending money and

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Speaker 1: signed guard Ben Powers. Don't sign anyone else until you

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Speaker 1: get that done. Protect Josh, then do all the other

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Speaker 1: things you have on your list. Yeah, I'm from finally

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Speaker 1: signing a free agent lineman to something more than a

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Speaker 1: one year deal. I know they signed John Feliciano a

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Speaker 1: few years ago when he first came to Buffalo to

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Speaker 1: a two year contract worth seven million dollars. I think

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Speaker 1: the investment has to be a little bit larger than

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Speaker 1: that going forward, especially someone for like Ben Powers, who's

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Speaker 1: been a starter in this league's only twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 1: You're probably looking at a three, probably four year deal

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Speaker 1: if you want to get that guy locked down at minimum. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the cup the players always want like a five

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Speaker 1: six year deal, right, Yeah, it's the it's the average

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Speaker 1: per year that is the difference, and the guaranteeds, the

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Speaker 1: guarantees that are the difference. How much that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: to get a guy like Ben Powers over here, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be big. It's gonna be a big number. It

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Speaker 1: was a big number when they signed Mitch Morris. I

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Speaker 1: think it was a five year, fifty million dollars deal

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Speaker 1: when they signed Mitch Morris after he had snapped for

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Speaker 1: Mahomes for the year for his MVP year, first MVP year. Right, So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big number. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: that that's job one. Don't sign anybody else before you

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Speaker 1: get that done part of it. But he's looking at

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Speaker 1: about nine million a year. Penn Powers gets something like yeah,

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Speaker 1: gets something like that done. But do like a three

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Speaker 1: year deal for like Round twenty eight, twenty seven million

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Speaker 1: went up sixteen million this year. It's I'll bet you

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Speaker 1: it's gonna go up twenty next year because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get out of the COVID paybacks and the TV money

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Speaker 1: kicks in. It's gonna be the cap is gonna go

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Speaker 1: way up next year. So you got that working for

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Speaker 1: you if you can see what it might be. Right,

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Speaker 1: Frank on the tweet sheet says free agency and who

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Speaker 1: we resign will be telling offensive line. But I guess

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Speaker 1: I'd rather hit that. I'd rather hit that in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Assuming wide receiver in old line are a priority in

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Speaker 1: the draft, I think we get a veteran running back,

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Speaker 1: perhaps the safety and corner. I want being to infuse

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Speaker 1: our offense with talent, but in the draft. So he

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Speaker 1: wants offensive line to be addressed in the draft only,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's possible, just because of the numbers

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Speaker 1: you need to replenish. Butger Quessenberry, Saffled, and Greg Van

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Speaker 1: Roten are all free agents. That's four guys right there,

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Speaker 1: all who played all yeah, all of whom who saw

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Speaker 1: time at one point or another this past season. So

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Speaker 1: here's the thing you don't got to do free agency

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Speaker 1: and the draft, I think to replenish that offensive line sufficiently.

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Speaker 1: You do not want to get to the draft having

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Speaker 1: to get offensive line. Yeah, you don't want to have

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Speaker 1: to get a wide receiver. You don't want to have

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Speaker 1: to get a safety or somebody or whatever you name it,

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. You don't want to get to draft

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Speaker 1: day having to get one of those games because then

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Speaker 1: you wind up reaching, because yeah, need is a need

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Speaker 1: is a terrible evaluator. So you don't You've got to

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Speaker 1: get it fixed or at least short up before to

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Speaker 1: the draft. Because if you get a chance to draft

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Speaker 1: Bruce Smith but you gotta take Cole Strange dead, you're

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Speaker 1: in a bad spot. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm exaggerating obviously to make a point, but

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Speaker 1: that's where you're at. You don't want to have you

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Speaker 1: don't want to get a chance to draft a brute

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Speaker 1: guy like Bruce Smith and have to take Johnny Manziel. Right, so, um,

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Speaker 1: because you need a quarterback. That's the kind of thing, right,

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Speaker 1: You gotta get this, you gotta get this fixed. We

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Speaker 1: will take a break here, but we'll have some final

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet when we return, including where

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Speaker 1: do you find your offensive playmakers? What can you afford

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Speaker 1: in free agency? And do you turn instead to the draft?

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Speaker 1: There we'll cover that when we return here on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right. So Garvey on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: with respect to a main focus in free agency for

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Speaker 1: the Bill says offensive playmakers Gisicky, Obj, Michael Thomas, etc.

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Speaker 1: Thomas may be good for a proved deal, as we

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Speaker 1: discussed earlier in the show, use the draft for young

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman and defensive players. Where do you come down

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Speaker 1: on a lot of people are obsessed with receiver? Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I understand why we've mentioned that a possible pivot

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Speaker 1: option for Brandon being in the draft is this very

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Speaker 1: very strong pass catching tight end class. Maybe if the

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Speaker 1: value doesn't line up a receiver, you pivot and go

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Speaker 1: to a tight end that can help you in the

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Speaker 1: passing game as well. Yeah, what about going to a

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Speaker 1: tight end in free agency like a Gasicki who can

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Speaker 1: help you in the passing game. He's basically a tight receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's not a true tight ending in any other way.

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Speaker 1: He's a he's a route runner on dimension. The guy

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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by today is Michael Thomas. He's an elite receiver.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Drew Brees and he were killing it, and

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Speaker 1: he's had two seasons where he's been nicked up and

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Speaker 1: hasn't been able to play. He's ripe for a contract

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01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: offer of a one year prove it. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: you can do. We'll give you a good salary, not

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Speaker 1: an elite salary. Come in for a year, prove yourself,

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Speaker 1: see if you can get it done. Take a swing

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Speaker 1: out of here. We got an elite quarterback. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. You're gonna have a chance to

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Speaker 1: win it. What about it? He'll be on national television

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Speaker 1: a lot. What about it? And see if he comes

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Speaker 1: in Because Michael Thomas win healthy, is elite. He's a

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs type. Guy that's intriguing to me. Got something

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Speaker 1: somebody like that is huge. Ob J of course is

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Speaker 1: in that conversation. I don't know how good he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be coming back off of knee, but he's done it

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Speaker 1: before and he'll be well off of it. He'll be

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Speaker 1: almost be working on eighteen months past his last ACL Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's an interesting option as well, but I'm here for that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Last one from Chris depends if we need to replace

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Speaker 1: Poe and Edmonds outside of those positions, Adding veteran cornerback

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Speaker 1: help behind Trey Mays a lot of sense. If we

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Speaker 1: can use our draft picks to get solid, starting caliber

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01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: interior oline, then wide receiver and running back depths should

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Speaker 1: be a priority in free agency as well. Cornerbacks a

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Speaker 1: sneaky one. If you slide Benford to safety. Dane Jackson's

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Speaker 1: a restricted free agent. You assume he comes back on

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Speaker 1: a one year but if not, that's another hole. You

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Speaker 1: got a plug. We'll talk about it more tomorrow. But man,

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Speaker 1: intriguing stuff. We'll see you tomorrow. And one. Everybody batting

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Speaker 1: down the hatches.