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Speaker 1: January fourth, two thousand, New Orleans, Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Number one versus Number two, Vick Winkey, Beamer Bowden for

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Speaker 2: all the marble. But who's going to be partying on

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Speaker 2: Old Bourbon Street?

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Speaker 1: This is the two thousand Sugar b Welcome to Games

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Speaker 1: with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler, and

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Speaker 1: we're on the search for the greatest game of all time.

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Speaker 1: And we got a great episode today with actor, comedian

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Speaker 1: podcaster Tom Segura. And if you haven't already, drop a

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Games with Names of production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games

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Speaker 1: with Names. Today, we have a special guest. We have

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Speaker 1: Tom Sigura to talk over the two thousand Sugar Bowl

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech versus FSU. Tom, in one sentence, why did

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Speaker 1: you pick this game? Great game by the way.

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Speaker 2: It cemented the dominance of the team that I grew

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Speaker 2: up loving. They were undeniably the powerhouse that you fantasize

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Speaker 2: about your team being. You know, yeah, is this the

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Speaker 2: greatest game of all time? I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: the it's not the greatest game of all time, but

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Speaker 2: I think if you grew up by everybody. You know,

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Speaker 2: you have your team, you grew up in this era

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Speaker 2: of the nineties, there was always this This was especially

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Speaker 2: big for the state of Florida, right because the state

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Speaker 2: had this rotation of Miami Florida Florida State and they

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Speaker 2: would always knock each other out of contention. And through

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Speaker 2: through this decade, you know you had FSU was they'd

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Speaker 2: won in ninety three and they'd come close, got knocked

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Speaker 2: beat them, it was such a blow to be like,

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Speaker 2: That's the thing about sports, you know, you emotionally invest

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Speaker 2: and you want to get over the hump, and when

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Speaker 2: when they lose in ninety eight, you're just like the

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Speaker 2: ninety eight season, I should say they it was such

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Speaker 2: a blow. And then this season, I think, no matter

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Speaker 2: how good you are, you know, you play the final

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Speaker 2: the season looks like. So you're holding on like, wait,

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Speaker 2: are they as good as we think they are? Like

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Speaker 2: they're lightened people up every week, but you still need

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Speaker 2: to see the game. And it was such a dominant

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Speaker 2: performance and the fact that like, of course they were

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Speaker 2: who was like just didn't even seem like a real guy.

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Speaker 2: Like it just what he was doing. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people who only watched him in the NFL, you don't

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Speaker 2: mean you understand, like watching this guy at Virginia Tech

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Speaker 2: was equally nuts. It was just like the arm and

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Speaker 2: the way he could take off running it was a problem.

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Speaker 2: He's a problem. And yeah, when you when watching that game,

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Speaker 2: it was like it was the celebration of like, oh

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, when did you fall in love with with

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of that has to do

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Then everything, And then I think also that era,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dames, just Notre Dame. No, yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 2: that Bowl game. Yeah, and like that's the only team

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Speaker 1: We didn't like what you gave us. So no, they

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Speaker 3: Golden domes. No way, We're not having that.

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Speaker 2: Come on, can we not have any religious warfare? Right now?

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Speaker 1: This is a religious war this is this is a

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Speaker 1: But I mean Notre Dame. Yeah, they do have and

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Speaker 2: Just another thing where they're like, yeah, we don't, we

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Speaker 2: because they have to keep TV contracts. They are that

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Speaker 2: big Yeah, like no, we'll take that money. And you're like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: Now you grow up in Florida, how do you choose

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Speaker 2: So I actually went down to the Orange Bowl more

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Speaker 2: that state. I don't think there's ever been a better decade. No,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was unreal.

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Speaker 1: Now, so all the Panhandle people are all usually yeah FSU. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I definitely think in that Panhandle area you're going

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Speaker 2: but most of the time you'd find more Florida Florida

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Speaker 2: state everywhere. Yeah. No, Do you have any comedy boy friends?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't sound right, comedy boy aws. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any comedy friends like that, you're on group chats

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Speaker 1: talking college football with NonStop. There's not that many any

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Speaker 2: Well, my buddy, I have a buddy, John Feliciano, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But usually, yeah, usually there's a lot of shit talking

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I want to watch this. He

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, were you at this game? He

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Speaker 2: when you were there or who you saw. He's like,

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Speaker 2: I mean I think we won a national championship. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, you fucking kind of think think you

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Speaker 2: won a national championship. He was like yeah, Charlie Ward.

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Speaker 2: I go, yeah, Like is that when you were there?

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Speaker 2: He's like I think so. I was like, you think

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Speaker 2: you were there? When you Charlie Ward was all right,

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Speaker 2: cool man, but he didn't know shit about what was happening.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we went to it. We went to that

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Speaker 2: And then we go to the opening game of the season.

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Speaker 2: They had redone the stadium, they had all new suites,

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Speaker 2: it was packed, and you're playing Bama at home, and

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Speaker 2: they beat Bama convincingly and it was all like, we're

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Speaker 2: you know, it was a tease. So what's the we're

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Speaker 2: back meter at? Like?

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Speaker 1: Because we hear this all the time all the time

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Speaker 1: with multiple different universities programs. When do you know you're

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Speaker 2: I think, if you really want to be honest about it,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be towards the end of a season.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be the end of a season and

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Speaker 2: you're probably looking at I think the gauge for it

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Speaker 1: But what is who's the most overused we're back organization? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I was like, they're they're back. They're back.

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Speaker 1: They are so I mean, it's it's I feel like

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Speaker 3: Getting to the National championship is put you in Actually, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Hey, who's not back that thinks they're back? Amma Stillma's

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Speaker 2: They're not back. He's still going to say Texas. That's

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Speaker 2: an easy one. But I got to think it's someone better.

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Speaker 2: There's got to be. Arch Mann is gonna. I think

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when granddaddy says he gonna play two years,

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Speaker 2: He got to play two years. Kid's got wheels too.

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Speaker 1: Coop was a fucking athlete his dad. Oh yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you asked Virginia Tech fans, Virginia Tech's back. James Franklin,

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Speaker 4: This game, Like it's hard for me to do this

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Speaker 2: You know, I remember graduate there. When I graduated college,

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Speaker 2: He was like, hey, fuck you kid, and then he

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Speaker 2: you warranted? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are we warrantying you in the F s U family

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Speaker 2: I didn't graduate. You went there though. I went there

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Speaker 2: because of football. That's why. No.

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Speaker 1: But are we warranting Tom on his argument against VT

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: National brand teams, national brand team from Florida State, Florida, Florida. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Plus he's he's like second day on the job and

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Speaker 3: he's already sunning the boss at school too.

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Speaker 2: I love that it was not it was not good dude.

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Speaker 2: He was, and I didn't realize too, Like I was like, yo,

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Speaker 2: this guy really took it like he really I probably was.

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Speaker 4: Athletics, though, for sure the fourth quarter leading in the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter is like the pinnacle of Virginia Tech sports.

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Speaker 2: The game was so far Thanks now, Tom, where'd you

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Speaker 2: go to school? The powerhouse? Fucking Leonora Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Shout out baby Hickory, North Carolina. They know that from

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Speaker 3: David's in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Oh ship, Oh no, man, guys day Kyle Duggar. He goes, yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Steelers now. It's one of his funny when like I

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Speaker 2: always think it's like so crazy when you see a

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Speaker 1: And there's there's a couple of D two receivers like

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Speaker 2: Here Garson, he's three, he's my union. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: Which didn't you have a couple of D threes lined up?

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Speaker 2: Out of high school? Yeah, so where did I get?

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Speaker 2: I got? Well, I almost went to a D three school,

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Speaker 2: don't know if I got math class. Yeah, math class?

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Speaker 2: You heard this? Yes, they called me. So they're like

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Speaker 2: like you got to take these math classes in order

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Speaker 2: I just like, well, I'm not doing that. And then

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Speaker 2: and he was like what. I was like, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: like no, He's like I didn't know that. I go, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because the sheer fact that a college kid

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not going to fucking do it

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Speaker 2: What positions did you play? I was a center, I

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Speaker 2: I can't be right. I mean I know I was

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Speaker 1: School you had to be kicked out of another school

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the longest yard. Bears like that would walk

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Speaker 1: Now could a a young strapping in his prime, young

430
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: linebacker Thompson Gurra, could he run full speed and get

431
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: through a young strapping in their prime? Shane gillis offensive linement.

432
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: Oh without a doubt, dude, there's no doubt about that. No.

433
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: I mean I did a movie with Shane recently and

434
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: this guy was talking so much like he knew so

435
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: much ball. He was talking about past setting to his stuff.

436
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Could you get through one zero doubt? What would your

437
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: your move be? I mean I can probably bullrush. I'm

438
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: sure I could have. But like if not, I.

439
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, I'm my anchor, I'm anchor him. I'm

440
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: just gonna anchor him. There's nothing. We can do it

441
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: right now. You give him a call, right now. We

442
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: can do it right now. You know what I can't.

443
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: We got to get this set up. Yeah, I'm picket

444
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: sure to swim move bull rush. I don't know. Shane's

445
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: pretty big boy, a bad boy. He's a good tackle. Yeah.

446
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: He did play a Notre Dame for a semester. No,

447
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: he was recruited for West Point the Army and then

448
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: he went to Notre Dame. No, No, he's a fake.

449
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he's a fake.

450
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

451
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big, big Notre Dame fan.

452
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: We'd be in the middle of a scene and this

453
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: guy would be sitting there and and I fucked up

454
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: my line and I said something like or there's there's

455
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: twenty five guys on the field, when both there's only like,

456
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: what twenty two right eleven on eleven He goes, he

457
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: looks at me in the middle of the scene, goes,

458
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there dieing, laughing. We have to stop production

459
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: and ship guys like, what's.

460
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: What's going on? Why are we laughing?

461
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: We got the law that's wrong, And the whole time

462
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of at me. I just see Shane in

463
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: the background. You know he loves it, dude, he loves

464
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: he loves it.

465
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 4: Jules's school didn't require math classes beforehand.

466
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: No ken Stee State state steep step, can't read, can't right,

467
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: can't stay babe.

468
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: That's what they used to yell at r NFL VET. Dude.

469
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 4: So you you went to the twenty fourteen in a

470
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: championship game here fsu versus Auburn.

471
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: I did with Bert, Yes, I did. He doesn't remember

472
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: any of it.

473
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 4: I told us the story that he left at halftime

474
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 4: because there's on mushrooms.

475
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: That's all true. Yeah, he left at halftime.

476
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he came on the show to talk about that

477
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: game and doesn't remember anything from that.

478
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is we he goes, I'm bringing you

479
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: to the the game, and I was like, oh fucking

480
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: that's a mate. So we go there and he has

481
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: all his old like college friends. We're doing like tailgate

482
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: stuff and parking lot and then he was like inviting me.

483
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: He goes, I'm getting you the ticket, all right. So

484
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: it's like as we're moving along, like getting closer, I

485
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: go like, when are we getting our tickets? He's like, oh,

486
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: the person's coming. I was like, gosh shit. And then

487
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: it came time where we met up with these people

488
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: and they give us tickets in two different sections, so

489
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm in like the south end zone. He's like, I

490
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: was like, wait, we're not sitting together. He was like,

491
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: I guess not. I was like, all right. So I'm

492
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: just like I'm sitting next to people I don't know,

493
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know where he is. We're just like

494
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: texting sometimes. I'm like, you believe this. And and then

495
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: in the fourth third quarter, fourth quarter, forget when FSU

496
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: ran back a kickoff and it was pandemonium. In this

497
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: it was pandem. I grabbed the guy didn't know and

498
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: I was just shaking him. I was, and I was

499
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: going crazy. I mean, I was going crazy. And then

500
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: you know, when Auburn goes up, feel like we get

501
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: the ball with like less than two minutes, right. It

502
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: was Jamis Winston driving down and he was so I mean,

503
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: he was like so smooth, like so in control of

504
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: this drive. Yeah, you had like this confidence like, oh shit,

505
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: this guy's gonna actually manage this to eat a w

506
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: eat that dubbed and and he he goes down there,

507
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: throws the ball to Calvin Benjamin and you still couldn't tell.

508
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: You're like, wait was that because like it was on

509
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: the opposite end zone, Like was that a catch? Did

510
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: he you know, did he like cover it? Did he

511
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: fumble it? Then you get the signal and we lose it,

512
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: and I'm like getting a hold of him and I'm like,

513
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: can you find He's like I left that half time,

514
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: like you left this the National Championship at halftime He's like, yeah,

515
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: I was pretty fucked up. I cannot believe this, dude.

516
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: And then I remember I had to like I had

517
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: no way out of there. It just I had to

518
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: walk for like an hour and a half to get

519
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: a new verse. That's the number one reason why I

520
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: don't like going to provens. I mean, I'm the same

521
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: now at.

522
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: Any sporting event unless I'm being brought in by police,

523
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: same like it is. It's just the logistics of getting

524
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: in and out of these stadiums. Even if you have

525
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: the best parking, headache, Even if you have the best parking,

526
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: it's the worst, dude. It's crazy when everyone fends for themselves.

527
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: There's there's no etiquette.

528
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: We did the Big we did the MGM Grand Arena.

529
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago. And after that, the next

530
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: day or the day after, two days later was the

531
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and they were like, you're invited to sit

532
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: in the MGM suite at the Super Bowl, and I

533
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: was like, I'm out of here. I was like, I

534
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: don't want to have to deal with going in. I

535
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: don't want to have to deal with leaving. I go.

536
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: I know that sounds I go. I just I gotta

537
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: get out of here. I don't want to go.

538
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: And we are pro NFL and going to events. We

539
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: love going to the events. We were just saying that,

540
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: but it is a fucking nightmare.

541
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: I don't want Super Bowl. Come on, I.

542
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: Don't want to move on from the twenty thirteen game.

543
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: Yet that's one of the best college football games. It

544
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: doesn't get we give the credit. It does not get

545
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: the credit.

546
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: And I always feel like, I know because I'm a fan,

547
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: people like I'm like, yeah, dude, that game was. It

548
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: was a lead, a back and forth, incredible game. You

549
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: had the Heisman Trophy winner and then basically one of

550
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: the runners up. Wasn't Trey Mason a runner up or

551
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: yeah for Auburn he was. He was a part of

552
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: the in the finals.

553
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 4: Freeman was in there, Calvin Benjamin, Robert Orguyo. There's one

554
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: hundred yard kickoff return with four minutes left. Then Auburn

555
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: scores again Trey Mason and then Calvin Benjamin thirteen seconds left.

556
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it was like brought that up.

557
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: But people are like, well, it's not that. I'm like, really,

558
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: I feel like it's one of the better games.

559
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: It's made on part with USC Texas in terms of

560
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, it just doesn't have the leg.

561
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: I think if I got to play doctor and diagnose

562
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: here late ARABCS gets a little bit.

563
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: Lost in the shuffle, the last one before the playoffs.

564
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everyone conflates because it's like, not the stars

565
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: started Auburn. It's an oppor team that kind of like

566
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: post cams cam like had a sick run then kind

567
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: of went back away a little bit, Like you got

568
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: Nick Marshall, like you'd be like, who, I don't know,

569
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, a little.

570
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: Bit of that, but you got the trade Masons of

571
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: the world. Like it's just a heck of a game.

572
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: Go back and rewatch these people.

573
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: I do want to mention Brian Stork Faro beach guy.

574
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: Yes in Florida State that you were teamming a couple

575
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 4: of years.

576
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I went to the school down the street

577
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: from his school in high school.

578
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: He was he was a monster. He only played a

579
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: couple of years with us because he I mean, he

580
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: had head things going. And I specifically remember watching he

581
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: would just take these nine on seven It was like

582
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: where it was like run game period. It'd be the

583
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: best defense against the best offense. So they just sit

584
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: and do their their fucking their run plays, pass plays

585
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: and all that bullshit and there's no skill guys and

586
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: him and Dante Hine Tower would like every time, because

587
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: they were both young football players in practice, would just

588
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: every single play lineup. I'm sitting there like, my guy's

589
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: eating way too many of those hits. Yeah, and then

590
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: you know it comes to shove, push comes to shove.

591
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean he has head issues and stuff.

592
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm sitting like those linemen, Man, they sit and they

593
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: have to eat those fucking torpedoes. They're like the linebackers

594
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: are running full speed at these guys and they're like

595
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: in a pass protection thing, just eating it and using

596
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: their technique.

597
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm like this guy, I remember, like the you have

598
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: You can be kind of delusional in a lot of things,

599
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: but in sports, you know, like being in high school

600
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: being like, oh, like I'm a I'm pretty good, Like

601
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: I make plays on defense, I don't get my ass

602
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: kicked on offense, like I'm pretty good, and like the

603
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: the way you get humbled and sober is like either

604
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: facing someone that absolutely destroys you. And I didn't realize

605
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: that one of the guys that made me realize, oh

606
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: my god, I'm hopeless and helpless in certain situations was

607
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: on my team. So he was he was our defensive end.

608
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: He got recruited by a lot. He went to Syracuse

609
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: on a full ride, and he had trouble in school,

610
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: but you know, coaches were always coming to our high

611
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: school to see him. And I had realized I hadn't

612
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: done like one on one drills with him, and it

613
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: was like a pass protection thing and they were like

614
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: all right, huh, and like I just went like this

615
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: and he was behind me, and I was like what

616
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: the and so I go, I go, let let's do

617
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: it again, like I called it out again, and the

618
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: next day he did it. He did it were next

619
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: time he just did it this way, and I was like,

620
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck? And then the coach

621
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: was like, you want to do it again? I was

622
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: like yeah, and it was like the third time. And

623
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: then I was just like, oh, there's nothing I can

624
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: do to stop this guy, Like he was that fast,

625
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: so fast. And then I went to Miami with him.

626
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: Miami was playing Syracuse and so we were on the

627
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: field and when those guys came out of the tunnel,

628
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: I turned and I was at I was at eye

629
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: level with a guy's number on his chest. I was like, Oh,

630
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: I can't play fucking here. There's no there's no chance.

631
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm looking at guys, I'm at eye level with

632
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: the numbers. I'm looking at seven seven and it's here.

633
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh Jesus Christ, Like this is

634
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: a whole other thing.

635
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: The thing is, everyone who's put the uniform has felt

636
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: that at one point of their life. Yeah, even the

637
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: baddest of the bad when their athletics decline and there's

638
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: a young buck coming in, Yeah, coming in to deal

639
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: with the ego of not being able to do what

640
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: you did but feeling that humbledness from the game. Yeah,

641
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: that happens to everyone, right, and that's why football is

642
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: insane and it's awesome. Yeah, because no matter what, you're

643
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna be humbled, doesn't matter like bother time's gonna do it,

644
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: a young buck's gonna do it. Yeah, someone's gonna do it.

645
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: And it's just it's it's nuts because we've all been there.

646
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: I felt. I remember feeling that, like, man, this guy's

647
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: sound real. It's crazy. Yeah, you know, yeah. It is

648
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: one of those things where you go like, wow, I

649
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: thought I was like here, and then just in that moment,

650
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's nothing I can do to him. Yeah,

651
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: like there's nothing I can do to stop him.

652
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: Now, this is a good place to transition into comedy.

653
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: When what did you ever feel like that in comedy

654
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: where like you started jumping into it doing stand up,

655
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: doing special, started on you know, Comedy Central and doing

656
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: all this shit, and then you felt like, man, I'm

657
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,959
Speaker 1: not that guy.

658
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it happens in different ways. Like one of

659
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: the things that's really so like at first some people

660
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: start stand up, I have a really rough go to start.

661
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: Some people start and like it's go knowing pretty well,

662
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: but it's like it's real low stakes. It's not like

663
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: you're doing big rooms. And like I remember the first

664
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: time I was doing like little bar shows and they

665
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: were going well enough, like you get laughs and you're like,

666
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: oh this, You're like, I got it, you know, I'm

667
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: figuring it out. And the first time you bomb is

668
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: it's like getting the shit kicked out of you, right,

669
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: it's like getting beat like that where you're like and

670
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: you're like, I thought I thought I could just navigate this,

671
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: or like the time where you go, I don't really

672
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: need to prepare that much for this, like I got this,

673
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: I got this, I'm just going to go and we

674
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: got it. We've done this a thousand times. You're gonna

675
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: wing this shit. It'll be good because I'm good. And

676
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: then you go and you're just like, it's just crickets.

677
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: That shit kind of is what you need. You need

678
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: those shit shows to make you go like, oh yeah,

679
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: there's no such thing as being so good that I

680
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: don't have to do anything, you know, And then yeah,

681
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: of course you would see people that are so good,

682
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: especially in your developing stage, where you're like, oh I

683
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: need to work way harder, like this is this is

684
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: so much better. This person's joke writing is just better.

685
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: They're off the cuff is just better. They're just huge

686
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: shit it's all just better. But you, I mean probably

687
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: like in athletics, you need that, you need to see that,

688
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: you need to feel, you need to bomb like people

689
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: some people have, Like I don't have really many bombs.

690
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: You're like, well, you haven't done it that much. It

691
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: means you haven't gone uncomfortable. Yeah, you gotta get uncomfortable. Yeah,

692
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: you got to fucking eat it. Man, I gotta eat

693
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: it and like have self doubt and go like, what

694
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: am I even doing? Why am I here? Like you

695
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: need those days to reinforce while you are there and

696
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: that you actually are doing it because you love it.

697
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: You have to love it. Yeah, and that brings me

698
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: like I remember having.

699
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: For me those days were when I was transitioning from

700
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: receiver or quarterback to receiver. I remember going to one

701
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: on ones and I've never really ran routes on people. Yeah,

702
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: And it's not like what we just talked about with

703
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: the indiscuspancies of this week, you're playing a kid who's

704
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: five foot seven. Yeah, this next week you're playing a

705
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: kid who's six foot I was trying to learn against

706
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: the biggest, the baddest dudes.

707
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: In the world. Dude, that's crazy and so it's crazy.

708
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: Going and doing these one on ones with like not

709
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: knowing what was going on. And I had something in

710
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: my head that I needed to I needed to like

711
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: work the top of a route of making this guy

712
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: feel an in cut. Now I would do it and

713
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: I would get strapped up and this guy would cover me.

714
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: But in the back of my head, I would remember

715
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: that movement and that feeling what he felt, and I said,

716
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: I'll use that on the outbreaking route. I had to fail,

717
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: but I had to make myself uncomfortable trying the technique

718
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: at the top of the route in order to figure out, well,

719
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: I may not be able to use it on that route,

720
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: but I can use it on this route, you know.

721
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: And it's and it's to your point, the failures, the

722
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: adversity are the calcifying thing that make you grow.

723
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the most overused expression in football. It is,

724
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: but you realize there's a reason for it. I know,

725
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: is that you have to have it, you know.

726
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we always ask our comments, what's the one joke

727
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: that you thought was the absolute best that was never

728
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: that that got killed by the audience that didn't get it.

729
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: It didn't land. I gotta read I'll do that post

730
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: that post favorite choked that never worked, favorite joke that

731
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: never worked. I mean, it's it's hard to say because

732
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: when they don't work, you try to abandon them. So

733
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: you're like fuck that, like you try to like push

734
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: it out of your head. Yeah, I had jokes where

735
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: like there's always this thing where like, you have a

736
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: joke that is that like another comic likes, and then

737
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 2: they tell you they're like, you got to do that joke.

738
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: Then you do it, and you realize it's just for

739
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: that guy. You're like, you're like, yeah, no one's liking this,

740
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: dude sabotage. No, I think it really would Like sometimes

741
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: they're like yeah, but I get it because sometimes I'm

742
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: in that position where I go, I love that joke,

743
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: and I realize that when the comic does it, it's

744
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: not it's it's above their heads. It doesn't kill the audience,

745
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: Like the audience is just kind of like and I go,

746
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: but it makes there's something about it makes me laugh

747
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: so much. But what you will find consistently in stand

748
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: up is this like this phenomenon where where you go,

749
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is such a great bit. The

750
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: structure of it, like the the way that I've crafted it.

751
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: This is gonna this is going to kill and you

752
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: do it and it's like fine, like it gets laughs,

753
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: and then the thing where it enters your head in

754
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: the moment and you're like, eh, this is whatever, you

755
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: kind of throw it out there, brings the house down

756
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 2: and you're like that's the one. Like that's the thing

757
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: that happens throughout stand up and I think will always

758
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: because it's this like imperfect science. You think that the

759
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: word choice and the way that you said it, like

760
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: this is going to impact the most, and it doesn't

761
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: work like that. It sometimes it's just the thought that

762
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: just flies through your head that you haven't really broken

763
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: down and given much time to And that for me

764
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: is like a thing that you find over and over

765
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: and over again. I mean I used to do this

766
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: joke about saw this place on in Hollywood called Latino Computers.

767
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: That's tight yeah, and I was like, what was it?

768
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: It was like, is that the best marketing for your place?

769
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: Latino Computers. These computers like aren't the best, but they

770
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: work really hard. And then I was like, I guess

771
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: that's better than black computers. These computers don't work at all,

772
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: but they talk a lot of shit like control all

773
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: the elite, fuck you this joke now it works in

774
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: small rooms. We'll be right back after this quick break.

775
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Do you have a do you have a uh a

776
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: joke meter person that you'll tell a joke to and

777
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: you'll be like, they have the brain of what the

778
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: audience has. So I'm is there a specific person that

779
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: you'll run a joke by that You'll be like, I

780
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: can't tell myself because I may be too smart for it.

781
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: I'll ask this person because they're more like the audience.

782
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: Not really. No, I do have this thing where like

783
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: if I I'll say something that if I'm alone, and

784
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: I'll like smirk myself. You know. Sometimes my wife will

785
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: be like what, like I thought of this thing? She's

786
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: like what is it? And I'll say it and if

787
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: she's like, oh my god, then I'm like, oh, that's

788
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: pretty good. Like if her reaction is like like disapproval,

789
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: then I get excited that like, oh that's that's that's

790
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: in the I'm on the right path right now. Because

791
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: she's like, are you really going to say that? And

792
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, and then I get excited. But like

793
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of my but most of the time, I

794
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: always feel weird saying that joke that like my friends

795
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: or whatever. I just I just want to say it

796
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: on stage, you know, you just wait for stage. I

797
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: wait for stage because the stage is really the the

798
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: only honest place. Yeah, you have to you have to

799
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: be on stage to say the thing. And then, like

800
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: I said, because you're you can have no confidence or

801
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: full of confidence, and they'll straighten you out. They're the

802
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: ones that will tell you you look like shit, man. Yeah, yeah,

803
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: they'll tell you.

804
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: We got to jump into the next segment where we

805
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: go back into time where the game took place and

806
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: we go over pop culture. This game took place on

807
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: January fourth, two thousand and this is what was going

808
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: on in the real world. Talented mister Ripley was number

809
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: one movie. Is that the one with Jude Law. Yeah,

810
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: just watch that, Matt Damon.

811
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: It's phenomenal. It is very in the fashion and like

812
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: just the mat talented mister Ripley. Yeah, great fashion, the

813
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: ultra the whole thing, dude. But the story, the actors

814
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: in it are all in there. They're young, they're all beautiful.

815
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: The it's it's Italy. It's so beautiful and then I

816
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: don't know if you know, but I got obsessed. Last year,

817
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: Netflix released a limited series called Ripley, and I was like,

818
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: how are you gonna do a series after this? This

819
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: movie was fantastic, dude. The series is one of the

820
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: best things I've ever seen. Wow, I'm gonna check it

821
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: out and watch it is unbelievable. It's called Ripley and

822
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: it's it's an eight part limited series. That is, it's

823
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: not obviously like a duplicate of the movie. It's it's

824
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: obviously a lot of you know, it's the characters and stuff,

825
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: but it's so good. It's so good.

826
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: That's one of those creepy good movies that makes you

827
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: want to travel but then also makes you like, man,

828
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: there's some creepy shit.

829
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: Going on over here. Yeah, that's what I think of.

830
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: He's a real psycho, man, real psycho. Yeah. Number one

831
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: song smoothed.

832
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: By Rob Thomas and Carlos Santana that I sat with

833
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: Rob once.

834
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: Rob Thomas.

835
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've heard this story. Clive Davis party, Wow,

836
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: him and his wife. They were awesome people, great people.

837
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: We were supposed to stay in contact. Never did. Damn

838
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: loved Carlos Santana too Tantana.

839
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: That was like when this guy had been like around

840
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: for years and this this when he like put out

841
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: album that like it just took over. Muddy of Muddy

842
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 2: that one, too.

843
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: Nice pop culture, Any Given Sunday, unbelievable Green mild, great movie,

844
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: Stuart Little, awesome movie.

845
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: All in the box office ninety year from really good

846
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: like Matrix was earlier this year, too man, Any Given Sunday.

847
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: That was a fun movie. That was a fun movie.

848
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: And and but the one thing that always got me

849
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: so so mad the NFL never gave the licenses up.

850
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: I know, I hated that. They was the Miami Sharks.

851
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: That's the weirdest. That's the weirdest. The league's gotten better

852
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: with that though, because you know it's growing it.

853
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: Look keep been thinking about that halftime speech a lot lately, Alacino.

854
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Man Super Bowl Champs were the Rams?

855
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: Was that the greatest show on turf? No?

856
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 4: This was well, this was that that electric first harbor.

857
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: Kurt Water came out of nowhere and he wins MVP.

858
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: And were they the short turf that year? Yeah, I

859
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: think that comes to it was the m v P.

860
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 2: But were they calling it in ninety nine. Yeah, didn't

861
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: that come later? I felt like it was later, But

862
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: maybe you're right, because.

863
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: Like this was there were the underdogs here and this

864
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: was the like the Super Bowl with steeping the air

865
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: with the air they say.

866
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: This is one of the only Super Bowls that I

867
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: missed because I was in a study abroad program, so

868
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: I was in Madrid, and you it's great, but like

869
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: when you're when you're overseas, you don't realize how how

870
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: easily and quickly you can lose touch with like everything

871
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: that feels like American culture sports. It was just like

872
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: one of those things where the next day they were like, oh,

873
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: super Bowl. I was like, super Bowl was yesterday and

874
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: they were like yeah. I was like, oh shit, I

875
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: missed that. How wasn't they like it was fucking unbelievable.

876
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: I was like, oh cool, I'm glad I missed it.

877
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: I bet you if you went there now though, and

878
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: did it, there'd be a little more buzz around the

879
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: town because they played an actual NFL game a game there.

880
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now there would be probably more of a thing.

881
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 2: You know, what were you like in two thousand and Tom, Well, yeah,

882
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: that makes it actually reminds me so much of I

883
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: absolutely loved the semester in Madrid. It was it was amazing.

884
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: And then I got back from that semester and that's

885
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: when I interned for America's Most Wanted. Wow, and then

886
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: they hired me after I graduated. I graduated in two

887
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: thousand and one one, and I remember and then my

888
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: first day at America's Most Wanted was September tenth, two

889
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: thousand and one, and that was in d C. So

890
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: that was why, I oh, that was where did you

891
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: ever like to get any of them? Did the work? Well? Yeah?

892
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: They I mean they caught so many people. I pitched

893
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: a story right before because I would. I was in

894
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: the research department, so I would research all these people.

895
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: And then one time I pitched this guy who was

896
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: a fugitive in uh in Costa Rica. He was an

897
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: American guy and he was briff horrible, horrible crimes, and

898
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: I pitched him. I gave the story and then you

899
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: know that it's kind of considered. And then I after

900
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: my count. I had a three month contract that that

901
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: was done, and then they were going to they're offering

902
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: another one and I was like, I'm moving to La

903
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: But as I moved to LA and then like a

904
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: month after I got to La, they called me and

905
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: they were like, hey, we're going to do that story.

906
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 2: Do you want to come on as like an associate produce.

907
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: They're like, we'll hire you freelance. I was like yeah,

908
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: So I went to Costa Rica and filmed the profile

909
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: on this guy.

910
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: So there's like pitch meetings for like, that's crazy.

911
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: It's crazy, I mean, I I was. It was fun

912
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: to do that stuff. Yeah, you would have. I mean

913
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: it was. It was also like deeply disturbing stuff, right

914
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: because sometimes like that guy, remember we had his diary,

915
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: but I was able to read his diary, which was

916
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: very disturbing, and and you know you have the Yeah.

917
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: Best Wanted, isn't it started by a guy who like

918
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: had that personal tragedy and then he.

919
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Walsh. John Walsh's son was kidnapped and killed

920
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: and he became like an advocate for victims. And then

921
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: here's the thing. The show was so successful. It was

922
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: a great show, I mean at catching people that at

923
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: one time they Fox announced that they were canceling the show,

924
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: like we're canceling after this many years, and the blowback

925
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: was so bad from the general public that they brought

926
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: it back. They're like, all right, we're keeping it on. Yeah,

927
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: that's how I mean. It caught so many people. It

928
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: caught hundreds of people, I think.

929
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 4: I guess that's so. It has listed five hundred. As

930
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: of March twenty twenty five, it's been five hundred and

931
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 4: thirty five fugitives and four hundred and ninety six, roughly

932
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: ninety three percent have been captured or located.

933
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty incredible. I think we also, I

934
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: say we, but I think the show also got Whitey

935
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: Bulger on top of Like I think I.

936
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Remember that that was right down hereah, right on Ocean Street, right,

937
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: because he was profiled regularly.

938
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so like it would like.

939
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: You get both the people. You gotta keep the Boston

940
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: readings up. Yeah, yeah he was. He was, uh, he

941
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: was profiled all the time. And yeah, I think that's

942
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: somebody saw one of the later episodes and they were like,

943
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I think I know who this is.

944
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, lrip, wait, hold on, I saw the wrong thing.

945
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 4: So sorry. There's been a thousand total episodes. The fastest

946
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: capture is four days, and there isn't a total number

947
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: of people captured. That was the FBI's Most Wanted okay list,

948
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: did they actually pay any of the like, yeah, you

949
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: know the pay awards?

950
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they get that. I mean the Whitey

951
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: one was famous. Yeah, ten million bucks right significant. By

952
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: the way, is this the year I want to say

953
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: the Ron Daane wins the Heisman? It should have been

954
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: Peter Warick. It's this year if you ask me, I

955
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: think it should have been Michael Vick. But they weren't

956
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: giving it the freshman yet.

957
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: But we looked at Ron Dane had eighteen hundred yards

958
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: and like nineteen touchdowns like he had, But.

959
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: What was Peter Warick's? Peter was unreal? I mean, let's

960
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: let's uh.

961
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: I mean, so this FSU team twelve and zero, Bobby

962
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 3: bound seventy this year, Chris Winky twenty seven. We got

963
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: like there's a veteran season group of here, baby, Top

964
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: ten scoring defense, top five scoring offense. Chris Winky was

965
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: a little unsure like what it was going to look

966
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: like heading into the season. He's had offseason, next surgery.

967
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: He was banged up.

968
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: Man.

969
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: You might remember he played a lot of minor league baseball. Man,

970
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean he'd been around number one years. Crazy bro

971
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: I hated that.

972
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: As a games like you got an old fucking man

973
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: playing quarterbacking here.

974
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: It is crazy. Year before that lost to Tennessee.

975
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: So coming off that one in the Fiesta Bowl, you

976
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: remember Peter Warik held a one catch in that game.

977
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: Wanted to come back to the next year, like I'm

978
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: not in in my FSU career on a one catcher.

979
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: Come on now, come into the season ranked number one,

980
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: go wire to wire A little foreshadowing there, we know

981
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 3: what happens here. The heck of a team. Peter Worke, though,

982
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: got done dirty because there was a little legal issue

983
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season. Remember this at the

984
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: Dillards with Lavertius goals. They said he paid like twenty

985
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: one bucks for four hundred and fifty dollars worth of clothing.

986
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't know se Antics suspended two games. Heisman voters

987
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: getting all up in their high horse. He finished sixth.

988
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: Not this year. What do you remember about this team?

989
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: What was your thing about this team? I mean what

990
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: I remember was points. I remember them dropping fucking like.

991
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: There's that thing too. When you're I always feel like

992
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 2: the one of the marks of a team that's gonna

993
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: that's a legit good team is that when you get

994
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: into the red zone they get touchdowns and not field goals,

995
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: and it's crezy always translates when you see them inside

996
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: the twenty and it's almost seven points every time. You're

997
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 2: like this, this is a team that can do this right,

998
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 2: because when they have to go for three or they

999
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: can't convert, they're always trying to make something happen. They

1000
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: just can't do it. You're like, this team is not

1001
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: at that level. And these guys were like a sure thing.

1002
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: They were just always always putting up big points defensively.

1003
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: It was no joke too. I mean they had had

1004
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: some real book. Corey Simon was a fucking baller dude,

1005
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: and they they of course Sebastian notable names on this team.

1006
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: The drinking kick the first in the scouting report. Whenever

1007
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: we would play Sebastian, it would be like, this guy

1008
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: loves to drink and be like, written up, we'll see

1009
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: him probably at a bar, but don't underestimate him. Will

1010
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: kick freshman freshman year, what do you think of Winkie?

1011
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: Well that was the thing too, is you even as

1012
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, how old is this guy?

1013
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? I remember being like that to his junior year.

1014
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Also, I remember him. He was a pocket

1015
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: passer like you. This was not like a super mobile guy,

1016
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: especially when you're watching them against Virginia te Christ.

1017
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: He tried to get tried to do a Yeah, it's nuts.

1018
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: But he was somebody who, like you know, with everything

1019
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: around him, got got it done. Like he he was

1020
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: like a consistent quarterback. Yeah, technician who you know, he

1021
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: knew how to run the offense in a lot of ways,

1022
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: you can say. And maybe being of that age is

1023
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: a good thing as far as like composure and no, yeah,

1024
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: being a mature guy. But yeah, he had you know,

1025
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: he had a lot of weapons around him and and

1026
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: yeah he did he did what they needed him to do.

1027
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: It is crazy. Have you ever met any of these

1028
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: guys out and about who have I met from this team?

1029
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this Ginakowski never I never met him.

1030
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 2: I was gonna get him on the show. We got

1031
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: to get him on. Oh my god, dude, you have

1032
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: to find so many stories. Would you remember him. Let's

1033
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: hope it was a couple. He's got it. He had

1034
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: he had that real thing too, where where he was

1035
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: like are you guys you guys make fun of kickers,

1036
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: and kickers are plus.

1037
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: He's like, I'll knock your fucking head. Oh yeah, he

1038
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: brought respect to the kicker name. We had Gruden on

1039
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: and he was telling us that he knew he was

1040
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: drunk one day or something and he's like, let him.

1041
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: Fucking kick it and he'll fuck I want him to miss.

1042
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: His prove a point and he nails it like a

1043
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: fucking fifty eight yard or something like, I love you.

1044
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: Who's your about? Rushmore of Florida State players, I would say, Dion,

1045
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 2: you gotta put I would put Pte dub on the

1046
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: I put Peter Work on there. I would put Shade Tree,

1047
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: Marvin Jones, I'll give you that. And then Derek Brooks.

1048
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's a Derek Brooks is one of my

1049
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: favorite football players of all time.

1050
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean those four are like, yeah, I still can't.

1051
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remind everyone once again, Derek Brooks never missed

1052
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: a snap of football? Did he really never missed a

1053
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: snap of football in the NFL at lanebacker.

1054
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: That's pretty I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

1055
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: That is what ten years, fourteen years Wolverine shit, like

1056
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: you got to go and check his DNA.

1057
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: Two hundred and twenty four straight regular season game. Really,

1058
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

1059
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: Same, that's a really crazy stat.

1060
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Man, that's like way crazier than like playing a thousand

1061
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: baseball games together.

1062
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, man, cal Ripken, that squad too, that

1063
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: that lineup of Brooks, Lynch and Sap. Oh yeah, are

1064
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: you bucks guy? No? But I just was like, you know,

1065
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: it just as like a fantasy game. You're like, you

1066
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 2: got Sap on the d line, Brooks and then Lynch

1067
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: in the secondary was a fucking great corner.

1068
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: You could put Mike Alstatt in the linebacker group he'd

1069
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: fit into, He'd fit right in.

1070
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: That was so fun to watch him, man.

1071
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, cal Ripkin was two thousand and six hundred thirty

1072
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: two straight games.

1073
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: That's Is it a bummer you that the full back

1074
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: is just like a long lost things not though not

1075
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: in the winning teams really?

1076
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say there, I would say like thirty

1077
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: percent of the team forty thirty five percent of the

1078
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: teams have a fullback.

1079
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: But it used to be.

1080
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: It used to be a lot more, and it died

1081
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: even but it was even more endangered, probably like two

1082
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: or three years ago, and it was a more endangered specie. Huh,

1083
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: ebbs and flow, you get lighter than offenses get heavier.

1084
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: What was your I'm sure you've been asked this, but

1085
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: what was your welcome to the NFL moment? Did you

1086
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: have one where you were like, oh fuck.

1087
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: I've been asked this question, and I don't remember what

1088
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: answer I gave, so it's probably could be different. My

1089
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL moment was when I had a

1090
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: really good game my first preseason game, and you know,

1091
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: I thought I was I was good going back to

1092
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: our point.

1093
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, returned to punt or turned to punt for.

1094
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: A touchdown, had like five catches, had a tackle on

1095
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: special teams next week, like it was all taken away

1096
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: from me like that, I sprained my foot on like

1097
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 1: a weird play, and I was like, man, these guys

1098
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: are fast, physical, strong. I didn't even think like yeah,

1099
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: and I got hurt and I was out for four weeks,

1100
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: and then I had to come back and get back

1101
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: enough to start my first game back because Welk went

1102
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: out against the Jets. And having like that was like

1103
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: a welcome to like, oh fuck, it can be taken

1104
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: like that. You have to get back to where you

1105
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: were at and even though you feel like you have

1106
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: a sprained ankle, you have to go perform and be productive.

1107
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: Like that was a welcome to the NFL moment and

1108
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: just the complexity of of how on you had to

1109
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: be at work.

1110
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: Is there anything better than taking back No, I.

1111
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: Mean those are so great because it's not just the

1112
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: returners that has Like when you see a punt return

1113
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, Yeah, the returner is gonna make someone

1114
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: miss and there's gonna be like a great run. But

1115
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: there's like eleven guys have to do their job and

1116
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna see one guy get to there's gonna be

1117
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: a fucking great block by another guy. And it's something

1118
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: that this unit talks about doing every time they step

1119
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: on the field and it only happens maybe once a

1120
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: year where you get to house it. Yeah, like the

1121
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: justification and the fucking euphoric feeling you feel afterwards with

1122
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: everyone in there, and like it's just that's a crazy

1123
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: and it's you got to be crazy. It's a little crazy,

1124
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: like me being out watching it now. Yeah, you gotta

1125
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: be kind of like nuts. Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

1126
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break I'm always

1127
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: amazed by the way at at pro players memories of

1128
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: like moments and games because I used I always imagined that,

1129
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: like it makes sense that I could remember things from

1130
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: football in high school because you go, oh, yeah, that's

1131
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: like this period of time. But you go you add

1132
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: college and then you add pro career, and you're like, oh,

1133
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: I would figure that they would just be like, I

1134
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: don't know, man, but you guys, a lot of times

1135
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: are like the week that this happened, week three we

1136
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: were playing.

1137
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, how the fuck do you remember this? It's

1138
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: selective and there I'm not like I'm not great at that.

1139
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm like what you just said, Like, man, I played

1140
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot of college of football, Like it's hard for

1141
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: me to pull from my high school memories unless someone

1142
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: brings up the memory. Yeah, Like I can't just pull

1143
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: from those, okay, because like my processor, I had.

1144
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: A lot more of that data. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

1145
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: We've talked to.

1146
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 4: A lot of athletes on the show, and it's really

1147
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: kind of two camps. There's the one guy who remembers

1148
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 4: every single detailed, every single play they ever had, and

1149
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 4: then the other guys are like.

1150
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: I don't remember shit. I just went out and did that.

1151
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: That's what I thought it would be more of that

1152
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: was like amazed when I watched I was watching the

1153
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: producer of The Last Dance, you know, the bulls thing

1154
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: he was like talking about. He was like, oh, yeah,

1155
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: we were doing this thing with MJ. And he was like, uh,

1156
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: look up like week one in eighty six when we

1157
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: were playing Indiana and I and I was like, fucking

1158
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: hey man, you remember that, like you played basketball for

1159
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: twenty years. Yeah. He's still like citing specific things.

1160
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: Eighty two games too, play the playoffs. But it's also

1161
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: maybe if it's a there's a specific thing that stood

1162
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: out to you kind of like I said, like a joke,

1163
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: maybe that you fucking killed. Yeah, that's true, you know

1164
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: what I mean? That stands out good play? You have

1165
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: a joke from twenty years ago that you remember that

1166
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: got you off. That's true, that's true, got cha?

1167
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you? You said you you had to learn

1168
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 2: route running, right, did you? I had no I realized

1169
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 2: that like my football experience where you go like, yeah,

1170
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: I know this game. You realize that it's like just

1171
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: the position you play. I had no appreciation for the

1172
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: conditioning of running routes until I was I was probably

1173
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: thirty five where I was working out at this gym

1174
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: in the South Bay that had like one of those

1175
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: gyms that house like an outdoor field, and the guy

1176
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm working out with, he was like, do you want

1177
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: to go out there? I still love anything that feels

1178
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: like football. So they had like sleds and everything, so

1179
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: we were doing that and then he's like, do you

1180
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: wanna like just run some routes And I was like, yeah,

1181
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: just for like some type of workout. I run like

1182
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: some out route and then run it. I come back

1183
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: and then by like the third thing, I'm like, broh,

1184
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm gonna die right now. And it

1185
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: made me go like, oh man, I can't believe you

1186
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: guys are going all out and it's just like come

1187
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: back to the huddle again, come back to the huddle again.

1188
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: Like the level of conditioning to be able to sprint

1189
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: and come back and you have to do that play.

1190
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: I had no I was like, I can't believe I'm

1191
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: this age and I never really thought of this.

1192
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: That could have been another welcome to the fill moment

1193
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: the condition for me, just because I was a quarterback

1194
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: in college, and so like quarterback practice. At practice at quarterback,

1195
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: everything's about like getting your arm I mean, you know

1196
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're not running, you're doing things in

1197
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: between drills when the defense is out there.

1198
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1199
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: When I got into the league and I was playing

1200
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: special teams running a bunch of routes, I was.

1201
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: Like, holy shit, this is a lot.

1202
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: And that's something I actually tell younger football players when

1203
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: they always ask me what do you think I should

1204
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: do in the offseason, I say, run a bunch of

1205
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: routes because then by the time I became a receiver,

1206
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: which took me two or three years in my NFL

1207
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: career to develop into our workouts consisted. You know, I

1208
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: go work out with Tom and he'd run me. He'd

1209
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: run me into the ground. He'd run me for like

1210
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: seventy sixty five sixty routes and it would be like

1211
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: a ten route. You do ten routes. We'd build it

1212
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: like a drive. You'd run a route, then you'd run

1213
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: back and he'd kind of meet me where it was

1214
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: at and it'd be like a two minute drill type

1215
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: of conditioning. And when you have to think and execute

1216
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: when you're tired, that's the difference of the good and

1217
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: the greats fatigue and have fatigue guys that like when

1218
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: you hear of Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice stayed the same

1219
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: guy from quarter one to quarter four. Some guys lose

1220
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 1: their steam. You know, all the DBS knew that, Jerry.

1221
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: What you got Jerry from the first play is exactly

1222
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: what you're going to get in the last play. And

1223
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of guys with that. So, like,

1224
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: the running is a lot, it's crazy, and it's easy

1225
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: for the quarterbacks because Tom used to I mean I

1226
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: used to get on him all the time, or whoever

1227
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: was throwing to me like hey, let's do another I'm like, dude,

1228
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: we just did sixty eight routs. Yeah, it's been forty

1229
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: five forty minutes. Bro, that's sprinting, you know what I mean.

1230
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: And it's not the sprinting straight line, sprint, breaking down,

1231
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: stopping going.

1232
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: That's so much energy use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think

1233
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: if you don't ever play that position or you just

1234
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: you never consider it, you never think about it.

1235
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: But when you look at Virginia Tech and you see

1236
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: I remember being like when I was a quarterback, when

1237
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: you got watch guys like Michael Vick, who go out

1238
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: and fucking run a sixty two yard like run, and

1239
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: then they have to come back and call a play

1240
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: and go run the those are hard too, so Jackie,

1241
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: why don't we hit these Virginia the.

1242
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: Big East Hokies? This was back when they were in

1243
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: the Big East.

1244
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: Bainer Man shout out bro the thirteenth year of the

1245
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 3: Beamer ball era open the season number eleven, of course,

1246
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: climbed all the way up to two there. Vic's freshman

1247
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: redshirt freshman year here led the nation n CAA in

1248
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: passing efficiency. We all know what he can do with

1249
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: his legs, but Mike was absolutely dicing people up back there,

1250
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 3: so efficient. Finished third in Heisman voting. This is back

1251
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 3: when they kind of frown upon giving.

1252
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: It to freshman. I digress.

1253
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: But you gotta remember with this VT team, highest scoring

1254
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: offense in the NCAA forty one point four points per game,

1255
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: nation's top scoring defense ten point one point unbelievable. Got

1256
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: to look at some of these these guys, they just

1257
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 3: absolutely blew out this season. Sixteenth thranks. Syracuse beat him

1258
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: sixty two to nothing. Played Miami when Miami was nineteenth,

1259
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 3: beat him forty three to ten, just like absolutely dominating people. Unbelievable,

1260
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: and then shout out to a game we've done on

1261
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: this pod, the Miracle in Morgantown. Oh yeah, when Mike

1262
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: Vic let him win into Morgantown, West Virginia led him

1263
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 3: on a comeback to win twenty three twenty Keep that

1264
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: undefeated season alive, all time game, go back and watch it.

1265
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: Folks. Also got to mention Bud Foster.

1266
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 4: Bud Foster, another state guy, Shane Graham, the kicker, was

1267
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 4: on this.

1268
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: Sad all timer, tried to run a fake in this game. Dude,

1269
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 2: Vick was so ridiculous. He was insane. Is so ridiculous, man,

1270
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 2: I mean you watch it doesn't matter if you watch

1271
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech or is that an a f highlights When

1272
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: you see this guy just decide to escape the pocket

1273
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: and you're just like it's like Devin Hester or something.

1274
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 2: You're just like, there's your better. It's just so crazy. Yeah.

1275
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 2: That was the thing why I remember watching this game,

1276
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: the feeling of panic that you would feel every time

1277
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: they had the ball because you were like, man, this

1278
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: defense is a good defense, so fast, but you're like,

1279
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: get like there really is if there's space there's just

1280
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: nothing you can do.

1281
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: I hit Michael up about an hour ago and I

1282
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: texted him and they go anything about this game, and

1283
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: he goes, what's up, bubbs?

1284
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 2: Oh, Paul is well with you? Man?

1285
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 1: That game I was zoned out. I just remember saying

1286
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: to myself, this is Florida State on the national stage.

1287
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: I gotta give him some to talk about tomorrow. But

1288
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: my nerves before the game were outrageous, but they settle

1289
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: after my first big run.

1290
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

1291
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: That's big time, Mike at big time. He I remember

1292
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 3: the commercials on Nike Man, I loved it. I had

1293
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: I had to work with them and stuff. Michael Vick

1294
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: was like the biggest human yeah, in pro football for

1295
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,919
Speaker 3: probably like five, six, seven, eight years.

1296
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: Well the other thing is too, it's like we all

1297
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: because there's nothing really that we had seen as far

1298
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: as a quarterback that could run like that. Then you

1299
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: forget that, like this arm was stupid, dude, stupid. You

1300
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: watch him zing it on it and it looks like

1301
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 2: and it's just like seventy yards. You're like, what, Yeah,

1302
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: it was? It was nuts.

1303
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a Virginia Tech game at

1304
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: Virginia Time? No, I've always wanted to.

1305
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to hear understand man and like yes,

1306
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: see the place go nuts. I try to, you know,

1307
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: on the road, like as known, I make people know

1308
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: that I love college games. So I've gotten a lot

1309
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: of tours of facilities I've been tour. The most impressive

1310
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 2: tour where you're like I could see how you would

1311
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 2: sign is probably LSU. You know, like you go still,

1312
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 2: you just walk in. You're like what because like we

1313
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: we had we were just like two weeks prior in

1314
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: Buffalo and they had new facilities for the bills and

1315
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: we were like, oh, it's nice. Then you go to

1316
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: LSU and you're like that's some bullshit we saw in Buffalo. Dude, yeah, Tiger,

1317
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: But like the locker room is nuts, like Star Wars

1318
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: or something. I mean, you walk down a hallway that

1319
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: is dimly lit on purpose, and there's you know, accolades

1320
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: and awards and all these players. You're like, oh that

1321
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 2: played here. You're like this is cool. And then you

1322
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: turn this glass doors go shoot and then you see

1323
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: the statues, like the the mannequins of different players in

1324
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: different different uniforms that are spotlighted. And then another door

1325
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: goes and you enter a locker room that seems endless,

1326
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: and they modeled the seats after international first class beds,

1327
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: you know, so and they're like, yeah, we encourage them

1328
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 2: to sleep, and then their dirty laundry goes here, but

1329
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: there's an air filter in everyone so that it doesn't smell.

1330
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: It just goes out. And then they had another wall

1331
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: for former players, yeah, so that they could come and

1332
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: like with a key, open their own little lockers and

1333
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: you're like, hey, you guys have thought of everything here.

1334
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: Every cool.

1335
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it just brought me to like Independence Day

1336
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: when they were showing the president Air of fifty one

1337
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: for the first time.

1338
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,839
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you're like, oh shit, yeah, it's really impressive.

1339
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 3: It's insane, dude. Anytime the doors goes, you know, you're good,

1340
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 3: it's cool. You're somewhere cool. All right, Jackulars get in

1341
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: the game. All right, let's get in the lead up

1342
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: of this thing. So before this one, we got to

1343
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: talk about Florida State had to get by Florida in

1344
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 3: that rivalry game. Yeah, a big one, which was probably

1345
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: one of their closest games of the year, thirty to

1346
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: twenty three. Escape them in Gainesville on the road. That

1347
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 3: was a big one. Florida was three at the time

1348
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 3: coming into that when that was a big lead up.

1349
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 5: There is that Chris Leak I think it was the

1350
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 5: quarterback was ross was Ward gross one second?

1351
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: One second? Was he was earlier? Before that? I feel

1352
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: like Rex Grossman. I mean, I miss I know this

1353
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: is totally sidetracking this.

1354
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: I missed the herawin like, Florida was a state where

1355
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 3: every head coach was like a larger than life figure,

1356
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: not even close to that anymore. He had Spurrier, you

1357
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 3: had Bowden, had Jimmy the way.

1358
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that every in this especially in this time

1359
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: every year these schools were competing for it, and when

1360
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: that game came up, you were like, ship, this whole

1361
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: season could just go away right now, just.

1362
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: Just like that, which is a blessing. Why we have

1363
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs now because they both get in the playoffs. Probably, No, yeah,

1364
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: that's true.

1365
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 4: Nothing beats too undefeated teams, like you know, it's harder

1366
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 4: to do that with the playoffs.

1367
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, did you watch it this We were

1368
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: watching the highlights of this game. Yeah, And how cool

1369
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 1: did Bobby Bowden look on the sideline with the cool

1370
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: oak lead coach, don't no clipboard, no nothing, just bitching

1371
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: and just telling people what the shots were.

1372
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 2: And he's just telling like give it to nine again,

1373
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: like and they're like, yeah, it's good, good call, coach. Yeah.

1374
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 3: The semis he's drinking out of like a Charles Schwab

1375
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: sponsored look up, just like walking.

1376
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 2: No headset, get out of here with that. We need

1377
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: a headset.

1378
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: I was reading before this, he was like any coach

1379
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: he was talking about, like the comeback in the third car,

1380
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we were fixing to lose that game

1381
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: and then the boys came back.

1382
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 2: Any coaches says fixing, Yeah, that's my guy. I went

1383
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: the ball club, the guy the dag gum ball back. Yeah,

1384
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: gum in there. Oh it's the best. Oh, you're gonna

1385
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: make me follow my seat over you. I love the

1386
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: dad gum man.

1387
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were trying to go Florida State is

1388
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: trying to go wire to wire, man one to one,

1389
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 3: trying to take the whole season ranked number one of

1390
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 3: the top Virginia Tech best season in school history coming

1391
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: into this thing, this was insane. I mean, this was

1392
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 3: unbelievable to this day. Through the story lead into this

1393
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: it's an empty trophy case. For where did you watch

1394
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 3: the Championship to Go?

1395
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: I watched this. This was hold on, this was January.

1396
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: When was it January four, two thousand? So maybe Madrid,

1397
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, because I definitely watched this game.

1398
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 2: This may have been right before I left Madrid. I

1399
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: left because I remember watching this game in my in

1400
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: my parents' house, So it was probably right before I left,

1401
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: Like yeah, that would have made sense that, like anywhere,

1402
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: the break is over, like winter break, and instead of

1403
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: going back to school, I stay home and then fly out.

1404
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: So I watched this downstairs. Yeah, like in this back

1405
01:14:55,680 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 2: room at my parents' house, nervous as ship, feeling confident

1406
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: going into halftime, and then the absolute panic setting in

1407
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: in the third quarter for sure, where I was like

1408
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: this guy, fucking guy, are you in a Jersey? No?

1409
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: No?

1410
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 2: Are we eating chips? What are we eating? Yeah? Probably

1411
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: I was just nervously pacing, yeah, eating chips, and probably

1412
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: it could have been like three day old food, and

1413
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: I would have just been like just like.

1414
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah in the zone though, oh yeah, any friends for

1415
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: that game?

1416
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: No, I remember, because I remember I watched the previous

1417
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 2: one in the same room when they lost to Tennessee,

1418
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: and I was just like fucking losing my mind, like

1419
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: so upset that this was really freaking me out. My

1420
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: dad probably came in the room a few times too,

1421
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: because he was probably watching it in another room. I

1422
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: probably couldn't even sit and watch it with h Yeah. Yeah,

1423
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: I had to be alone. I had to be alone.

1424
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, out in I mean this game started, Like the

1425
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 4: real takeaway is Florida State out Beamer ball.

1426
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 2: Beamer, especially in the first half there in the first.

1427
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 4: Half, block a block punt for a touchdown block punt

1428
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 4: and then Peter returned for a touchdown punt.

1429
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: Which is it's it's crazy to think to even consider

1430
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: given VT a taste their own medicine when it comes

1431
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: to special teams and Beamer ball, like just didn't happen.

1432
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 3: But in the first half that along with some other

1433
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 3: big plays with the war touchdown early on on the

1434
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 3: skinny post, bakes it over the middle, hits him deep,

1435
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 3: going up seven to nothing. I mean Vic fumbled too

1436
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 3: on the first drive after getting down there uncharacteristic, so

1437
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 3: it's a little bit sloppy there, but yeah, get up

1438
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 3: fourteen to nothing. Then at the end of the first quarter,

1439
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech needed a play, needed something bad, and get

1440
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 3: that bomb to Andre Davis, scoring like three plays forty

1441
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 3: six yard Tudy got life back fourteen to seven. Now,

1442
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 3: And just to put it in perspective a little bit,

1443
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 3: we talked to Beamer ball and the importance of special teams.

1444
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 3: That became such a signifier of Virginia Tech. No one

1445
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,839
Speaker 3: blocked more punts or kicks in the nineties. Then Virginia

1446
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 3: Tech sixty three insane, what a static and by.

1447
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 4: The way, decade people all got ramped up in the

1448
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 4: early two thousands that had even after this game, look

1449
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 4: look at the lengths of these touchdowns touchdown.

1450
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,440
Speaker 2: It was Age Davis unbelievable.

1451
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: So you guys, get up, I would didn't They get

1452
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: up twenty one to seven at half?

1453
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, get in the second quarter, get up twenty one seven.

1454
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: The second quarter ends up being twenty eight fourteen at

1455
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 3: the half.

1456
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: He also had that again in and Natty. To see

1457
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: a punt return is so unbelievable in any championship.

1458
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 1: It brings the house down. Oh my god, it always

1459
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: brings the house like the crowd balled out nuts in

1460
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: this game. Peter Warick was just out of his mind?

1461
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: Out of his mind?

1462
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: What's the best championship touchdown? Had Desmond Howard with the Packers?

1463
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: You had Percy Harvin with the Seattle Seahawks in a

1464
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl?

1465
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 4: Devin Hester, Devin first touch of the game the Chicago

1466
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 4: that's pretty.

1467
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: Pretty freaking electric. Man. I'm trying to think. Man, there's

1468
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: some I guess the Colts, right. It cool is that Colts.

1469
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: Came back one then yeah, game breakers doesn't count. God,

1470
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: So halftime, what do we feel And you said you're nervous,

1471
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but like but very optimistic, Like I'm feeling good.

1472
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they got fourteen, but we got this,

1473
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: Like we got this.

1474
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: So what about after the third quarter? Then that was

1475
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 2: so it's so difficult to process that. I was like,

1476
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: because it just felt like what you were seeing with

1477
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 2: Vic was inevitable. Like you're just like you, this is

1478
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: one of those things where you're like, figure it out,

1479
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: fucking change go to a zone or so, I don't know,

1480
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: whatever you're doing is not working, Like you got to

1481
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: figure this out. And he does. It's overused term, but

1482
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: he does. He feels like a cheat code. When you're

1483
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: watching him, You're like there's just what what are you

1484
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: going to do? You know it?

1485
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy because he's just an explosion in a bottle

1486
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: at all times. True, Yeah, like you can explode at

1487
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,520
Speaker 1: any time. He's so explosive.

1488
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: It reminds me of like it's not the same thing.

1489
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: But there was like those uh five, six oh seven

1490
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 2: uh Gator teams with Tibo where their offense was like

1491
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: it just was it was him, it was Percy Harvin

1492
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: WASNZ and yeah, and you were just like what, but

1493
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: like what are you supposed to do? Yeah? Because they

1494
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: just had an answer for everything. It didn't matter what

1495
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 2: a defense was doing. They would always just find.

1496
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: But this was different because it was coming from really

1497
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: just one guy exactly.

1498
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: It is different. It is different, but the same feeling

1499
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: of like helplessness, yeah, of like I don't know what,

1500
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: why can't you stop this?

1501
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 4: Twenty two un answered points. The episode was up twenty

1502
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 4: eight to seven. J Tech scored late in the half.

1503
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 4: As of a j Tech fan, maybe there's some like, yeah,

1504
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 4: third quarter, let's go, it's fifteen points. They missed to

1505
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,919
Speaker 4: two extra points.

1506
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: They missed the next point, and that you had the

1507
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 2: Chris Winkie interception in there. As well.

1508
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 3: I mean Virginia Tech, they were getting stops forts and

1509
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 3: it was like five straight punch if you date back

1510
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: to middle of the second quarter. So it's just that

1511
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 3: middle third kind of got to him and then Vic

1512
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 3: with his electricity, got him back in this thing.

1513
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,839
Speaker 2: Now, when did you feel that you guys had it again? Oh?

1514
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 2: It was well into the fourth, man, it was into

1515
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: the fourth where trying to think I wanted you know,

1516
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 2: I think when you're when you're in these tight games,

1517
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 2: when you're losing, you just need separation. You need to

1518
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: feel like this is at least a two possession game

1519
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: for the other team to start to feel. So it was, yeah,

1520
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: it was probably.

1521
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean with Vic, it's almost like it you needed

1522
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: a high two possession game. Yeah, like a not just

1523
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,480
Speaker 1: a fourteen maybe like a sixteen point.

1524
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break. Du the

1525
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 2: you probably can't but that. I don't know if you

1526
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: saw the catch work made where he catches it and

1527
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 2: he's getting totally tackled and he dropped it. No, and

1528
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: he caught it. He catches it in the end zone

1529
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: as the guy is draped over him and he still

1530
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: catch is one of the most incredible touchdown catches because

1531
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: he's a it's a pass interference and he gets it

1532
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 2: and he can I think, I remember, that's a big

1533
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: momentum plate. It's a huge one. We see if we

1534
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: can pull this up over here.

1535
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: I mean, they get back in there with the dug

1536
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 3: Ins TD fourteen yarder from Winkie put him back head

1537
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 3: and then you get the two point conversion from it

1538
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 3: was from work.

1539
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:35,759
Speaker 2: That was huge.

1540
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 3: Then you get a little breathing room with a Janakowski

1541
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: field goal. Then of course you remember the one at

1542
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 3: the end the ice it from that's the one, right,

1543
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 3: I think that is I feel like it was the

1544
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 3: last one.

1545
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: And like as a Virginia Tech.

1546
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 4: Fan looking back on this game, it feels like a blowout,

1547
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 4: but like because it started like getting your teeth kicked in,

1548
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 4: but then like you always like hold it, like they

1549
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 4: were leading in the fourth quarter twenty nine to twenty eight,

1550
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 4: but then like the fourth quarter was a blowout too, so.

1551
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,799
Speaker 2: Then the score was reflective that it was at that moment.

1552
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: But because you had Michael Vick on the team, you

1553
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: felt like if there was time on the clock, they

1554
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: could figure it out.

1555
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course, And also if it would

1556
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: have been like a year older Michael Vick, it would

1557
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: just been probably a different story too.

1558
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 3: He was a great the next year, but he was

1559
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: hurt with and yeah, I banged up in this game

1560
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 3: with the wrist early in the first half.

1561
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: So you, you guys win this, how do you celebrate?

1562
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: I just I mean, mostly for me, it was just

1563
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: like that. I don't know, when you're when you're living

1564
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: in that area and you're everybody is cheering so hard

1565
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: for somebody else. It really is just that you get

1566
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 2: to talk shit to your friends. Yeah, and like people

1567
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 2: you know that are Gator fans or whatever, you know,

1568
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: you just get to like walk in and just be like,

1569
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: what's up, dude.

1570
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: The most I have felt that in forever, because once

1571
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: you start playing, you don't feel that. Yeah, was recently

1572
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: with USA and Canada really the hockey. Yeah, because I

1573
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of Canadian friends. My mom's Canadian, but like,

1574
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: and I don't even really watch, but it's that sense

1575
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: of community where like, well, you know, like you get

1576
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: to sit there and you hit up your your Canadian friends,

1577
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: like yo, dude, what's up?

1578
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 2: What's going on here? It's yeah, it's so fun. It's

1579
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: it's fun. Yeah. Is this it here? Dude?

1580
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: You get look at this? Yeah, great play. They call

1581
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: that stacking the defender. Bro, look at the other angle.

1582
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: They're going to show the other angle. So stacking the

1583
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: defender means keeping your body in between the defender and

1584
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: the ball, and so if he comes through you, it's

1585
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: a pi. But you're also creating a buffer for the

1586
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,839
Speaker 1: ball to come in. Like you practice that as a receiver.

1587
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 2: You practice that.

1588
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's an elite example of it. That's coaching tape.

1589
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta see this, dude, Is this it? Yeah?

1590
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: All right?

1591
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: Right, like three, he slows down, he keeps his body. Bro,

1592
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: that guy right here, look at this.

1593
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 2: Come on. That's a great play, great great finish. It's

1594
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 2: fun of them like this angle where you see the arm.

1595
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: The thing is the dB looks back and does that.

1596
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: They don't call it really so if he could look

1597
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: back and go like that, then you're good, which is

1598
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: given to him.

1599
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1600
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the great corners are the ones

1601
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 1: that know how to cheat the best and like certain

1602
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 1: little things because I mean, there's you've slow down any

1603
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: play in football, there's gonna be a penalty.

1604
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 2: I think in football, like, you can make arguments for

1605
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: all the positions, but as far as you're like, what's

1606
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: the artist most athletic thing to do by far to

1607
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 2: cover a guy backwards who is running the out, who's

1608
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 2: fast as ship wards, you're doing it backwards. It's it's

1609
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: it's noose guys.

1610
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 1: I won't say they're the brightest tools, the brightest boxer rocks,

1611
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: but they share their athletics. Yeah, but when you get

1612
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the mix, that's when you get Hall of famers. Yeah,

1613
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: that's when you get keep to leave shout out guys

1614
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 1: that you know they use both one hundred.

1615
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: And sixty three yards two touchdowns receiving and then the

1616
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 4: punt return for a touchdown for Peter Worrik.

1617
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I think he was the MVP as well.

1618
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: That's a nuts game. Crazy.

1619
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 3: I mean, Virginia Tech out gained him five hundred and

1620
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 3: three to three fifty nine, but three fumbles. Losing all

1621
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 3: three is tough, not great. Geez turnovers, baby turnovers.

1622
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: FSU goes on to win their second national championship of

1623
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: the nineties. Boy were they That was a fun generation

1624
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: of college football.

1625
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 2: It really was. And you know what the thing is, man.

1626
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: I try to tell other fans of this now is

1627
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:04,879
Speaker 2: you forget that it is cyclical in nature how this happens.

1628
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: So when your team is like crushing it, you really

1629
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: do have to enjoy it because it does like you know,

1630
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 2: you think of like the USC teams, some of the

1631
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: older Texas teams, what Notre Dame had done, and it

1632
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 2: does Clemson, Ohio animal right now, Bama. It's like you

1633
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: think it's forever. You just do, you know, you don't

1634
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: think it'll go away. And then you're like, it's it's

1635
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: fun when it's happening. You enjoy it. It's fun. Wall

1636
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: last year, it really is.

1637
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's grade this game and see where

1638
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: stacks up on the list. You got to put a

1639
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: bow on this thing. Forty six nine Florida State took it. Yeah,

1640
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: this was the final score. These are some names we

1641
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: came up with. Tom If you have a name that

1642
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: you like, you could we could we could use that.

1643
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: We came up with the Battle of Bourbon Street, the

1644
01:26:54,960 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: Battle on Bourbon Street, the Sugar Bowl seminoles, the Peter

1645
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: Warwick game, the Chris Winkie game, Bobby Takes on Bourbon Street,

1646
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: or anything else.

1647
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: That you want. I mean, these are all good. The

1648
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: one that stands out for me, I think I've made

1649
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: it clear is I think it's Peter Warick's game.

1650
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, you know when Gary Danielson is saying

1651
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 3: you could save the Cleveland Browns in that clip, you're

1652
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 3: that good.

1653
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 2: He was drafted by Bengals. Yeah, but you didn't quite

1654
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: have the NFL and yeah, no, note it didn't quite.

1655
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Ecosystems a lot where you're where you're drafted. Who's throwing

1656
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: you the receiver position is Smith? Isn't the quarterback they

1657
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: drafted Kenny Smith? Achille Smith.

1658
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't know who's that quarterback the Bengals ended up

1659
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 4: drafting around this time.

1660
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: They're not the best at drafting men.

1661
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: Well, they drafted Joe Burrow, they did, and that they mean,

1662
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, they get things right sometimes.

1663
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was an elite pick. That was Scott

1664
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 2: Mitchell Achielly Smith. Years. All right, let's score the game.

1665
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Is this the greatest game of all time?

1666
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: Let's score its encouraged? Okay, Tom, this is what one

1667
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: to ten scale to ten, zero to ten decimals encouraged

1668
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: the stakes of the Sugar Bowl in nineteen ninety nine. Well,

1669
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: the stakes, I mean, how can you minimize stakes?

1670
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 2: It's for the national championship, National championship. Undefeated teams, Yeah

1671
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 2: versus one. You gotta excuse me, they're high at stakes

1672
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: zero ten. I mean I think the stakes are ten ten.

1673
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a national champions I mean definitely, I'm going

1674
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: to say a nine point five only because I've seen

1675
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: national championships that have two undefeated teams that we've done

1676
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: on this show that have you know, the stakes are

1677
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 1: they're trying.

1678
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 2: To go back to back? Yeah, fair enough, you know

1679
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1680
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's interesting in that same vein because

1681
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 4: like going back to back or becoming a dynasty or

1682
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 4: SLI fan. I'm sorry, but with there's a level two

1683
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 4: of Virginia Tech where this is like so out of

1684
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 4: the blue to reach this level. So they have got

1685
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 4: the stakes where like we might never go back and

1686
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: they have it. There's like, yeah, one shot type of

1687
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 4: thing as well as like becoming dynasty.

1688
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: I had a nine points.

1689
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: The star power of this game, both teams, coaches, maybe

1690
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: who was in the building as fans.

1691
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Randy Moss's on the sideline, God Randy. When you think

1692
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: about that, he could have been there. He was on

1693
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: the sideline as a seminole. But like, how stupid things

1694
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: could have been, you know, because he was at Notre Dame.

1695
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 2: Then he goes FSU, then he gets Marshall. Yeah, go

1696
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: ends up at Marcus because weed, and it's like it's weed.

1697
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 2: We lost him to weed.

1698
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 4: Really, I know he wouldn't have been on the Tennessee year, right,

1699
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 4: he would have been going drafted.

1700
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: This was his freshman year.

1701
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 4: He was drafted ninety He played in ninety eight, drafted

1702
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 4: ninety eight, So this was two thousand.

1703
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: He was one year off. He wouldn't have been on

1704
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: that Tennessee versus Porter of State at Wait, No, yeah,

1705
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: what am I talking about? He was a what here?

1706
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: It was his rookie year. No, this was his he

1707
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: was drafted. This is two thousand. This was ninety ninety

1708
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: years in the NFL. Yes, okay, so he wouldn't have

1709
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 2: been for that. He wouldn't have put you guys over

1710
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 2: the edge against but he would he could have put

1711
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: him over the edge in ninety six, ninety seven, Yeah

1712
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. Yeah, that would have been so

1713
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 2: stupid man, zero to ten star power to star power. Okay,

1714
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 2: I feel like Boaden Beemer, you have vic Ward. I mean, Mkowski,

1715
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. It's not like it's not elite elite,

1716
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 2: but I feel like it's like eight and a half.

1717
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: I think that's good. It's a good score. That's an

1718
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: integrity score.

1719
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with the eight

1720
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: point nine because I think that's how big Michael Vick

1721
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: was in college at that point.

1722
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 3: Seriously, Yeah, I got eight point zero point one when

1723
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 3: the same ballpark.

1724
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I love that the gameplay of this game now back

1725
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: and forth, blowout early, tie it up in the third

1726
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: kind of blow out the end, block kicks, house kicks.

1727
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 1: This was a fun entertainment game long.

1728
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 4: Like how many touchdowns over forty Yeah, I think.

1729
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 2: You make a good This happens a lot of times

1730
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 2: in games where you see a final score and you're like, oh,

1731
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: it's blowout, But it really was a different story in

1732
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 2: the game. You know, it's a difference, definitely. I mean

1733
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 2: that gameplay, aside from the fact that it didn't end close,

1734
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: I think it was pretty elite. I would put it

1735
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 2: like nine point zero. That's a good score, really good score,

1736
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 2: but not being like up for grabs. Towards the end

1737
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 2: of the game is what really hurts it. Yeah, but

1738
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's like a nine to two

1739
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 2: action pact. You had an eight point four, eight point nine.

1740
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: I feel like the Russian judge over here. And then

1741
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 2: we got a grade. The name of the game. We

1742
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 2: chose the Peter Warwick game good zero to tens up.

1743
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 4: Also, how much you think about it the cultural impact,

1744
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 4: like how much this game like lingers on, we're talking

1745
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:55,839
Speaker 4: about it, you know, one of the last five years later, No.

1746
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 6: It was the second DCS game, so that one of

1747
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 6: the yeah, yeah, I to me, whenever this comes up,

1748
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 6: my first thought is always Peter wark if that's what

1749
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 6: always comes to mind for me, is like how dominant

1750
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 6: he was.

1751
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 2: He was like you know, it was like the way

1752
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 2: you would want to go out on a career is

1753
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: just completely just ball out, just nuts. That's how I

1754
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: think of him. So yeah, So as far as what

1755
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: the name for that for the name, well, I mean

1756
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: I know nine point two for me, Yeah, I'm gonna

1757
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 2: go with it eight point one at a seven point thre.

1758
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 4: I think about this game a lot, but I understand

1759
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 4: I'm like very specific in origional Yeah, bad thoughts. Oh,

1760
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 4: you know, makes me think what we didn't mention one

1761
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 4: of the best names in football history, snoop menace, oh many, yes.

1762
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Eight point seven? What's that that puts us? It's our

1763
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 2: new ooh high game.

1764
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 4: It's tied for eighteenth with the toothy fourteen NFC Championship

1765
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 4: Hackers versus Seahawks. Remember that game, the comeback, all the turnovers. Yeah,

1766
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 4: we did it with Michael Bennett. Michael Bennett.

1767
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1768
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 4: And it's just behind Super Bowl eighteen Raiders versus Redskins,

1769
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 4: and just the head of to twenty eleven AC Championship

1770
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 4: Ravens versus Patriots.

1771
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 2: Kind of high, very high. Dude, your number one is crazy.

1772
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: That's a crazy game, though, Isn't it? Like everyone will

1773
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: remember that game? And I actually scored it the lowest

1774
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: because we did.

1775
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. We do the average over here. Yeah,

1776
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: we do the average.

1777
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 1: Of all all the you know, the interview in all ours,

1778
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: it was Johnny Humble the lowest.

1779
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 4: I feel like this is too high. The statue of

1780
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 4: Liberty Game Boys State Oklahoma. I think that's maybe my.

1781
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: Favorite college football game of all time. I think we

1782
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: still haven't got USC Texas.

1783
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 2: We haven't done that we're waiting for Vince Young to

1784
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 2: come to that. Yeah, that that'll be near the top.

1785
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: That game rocks. Yeah, unbelievable. Tom.

1786
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 3: Are there any games on your bucket list sports wise?

1787
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 3: Do you gotta go see that?

1788
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Like? Do you haven't been to like a super Bowl,

1789
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,759
Speaker 2: a Wimbledon? Uh? You know, I just really I didn't

1790
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 2: realize how much. I went to the finals of the

1791
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 2: Australian Open. I didn't realize how I was like, oh,

1792
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: I could do this all the time I've done so

1793
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 2: that was like my first step into that, which was

1794
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 2: really fun. I've been to some F one stuff now.

1795
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 2: I went to the Vegas one. I've done it at

1796
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 2: CODA in Austin. That's something that's fun to travel and see.

1797
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: I've I feel like the NBA puts on great events,

1798
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: Like I love going to games. The games are just

1799
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 2: fun to be at. I do have that same thing

1800
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 2: about stadiums where I'm like, fuck, I know what you mean.

1801
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 2: I've been to a few now, like big I've been to.

1802
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 2: I saw the Bama Georgia National Championship. I think it

1803
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 2: was Yeah, the backup, it was incredible. That's so electric.

1804
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 2: But those those the atmospheres are amazing. Getting in and

1805
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,919
Speaker 2: out of there makes me crazy. I can't even imagine

1806
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 2: I would go without going to probably one again. But

1807
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 2: that's why it's got to be like a different country sport. Yeah,

1808
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 2: you kind of like, you know what I would love

1809
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 2: to see because, especially because I had lived a while

1810
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: in Madrid, I would love to see it classic like Madrid. Yeah,

1811
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean you can do l traffico here.

1812
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Galaxy versus Yeah, geez, I would love to see that.

1813
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 2: Tom, we missed anything about this game? No, I think

1814
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 2: we did it right. Dude, we did it right. This

1815
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 2: was awesome. I'm so glad we have to talk.

1816
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: This was a fun game to go down because this

1817
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 1: is when I was like a kid. This was like

1818
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: when we were I was probably eighteen, seventeen thirteen. I'm

1819
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 1: not good at math either, can't read, not get it mass.

1820
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 2: No, you're definitely weren't eighteen. No, I was in eighth grade. Yeah,

1821
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: I was in eighth grade. Yeah.

1822
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 4: Also, shout out Astro Turf very well in this game.

1823
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 2: Way more concussion but better for the fans. Fast. Oh yeah,

1824
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 2: we just you know this is my I've been in

1825
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 2: LA for two months. I'm leaving right now. Back back

1826
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: to Austin. I just wrapped up season two of Bad Thoughts. Netflix.

1827
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 2: Go check it out. It's going to drop in May. Yes,

1828
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 2: everyone go check you mother's house. This network, yes, yes,

1829
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 2: the YMAH network. That thing's insane. We went and checked

1830
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 2: it out. All the podcasts, a bunch of podcasts, Your

1831
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Mom's House every Wednesday too, bears on Mondays. And we

1832
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 2: have a bunch of other shows we released and produced. Yeah, dude,

1833
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 2: you're killing it right now. Thanks brother, Thank you so much. Man.

1834
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on.

1835
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, man, thank you. What a game,

1836
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 1: fun fun game ball No or love Tom. What a guy.

1837
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 3: He's awesome, he's cool. Got to get him back in

1838
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 3: here talking to him. Definitely does, definitely does. I saw

1839
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 3: those glasses right away. I was like, this guy's fucking stuff, like.

1840
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 2: Some jmms or something. I didn't know what they were.

1841
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: And he's building out a bunch of cool stuff. Awesome

1842
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: show on Netflix. What is it called again? Bad Thoughts

1843
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: season two coming awesome show. Awesome show, Bad Thoughts season

1844
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: two on Netflix coming out soon.

1845
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: May. I believe he's said May, it's gonna be awesome.

1846
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 2: That's gonna be awesome. He's got old empire man. You

1847
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 2: can you can see him anywhere, Yeah, anywhere and everywhere.

1848
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: And he's a hit any kind of comedy because he does,

1849
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: like we didn't get to talk about it with him,

1850
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: but he does like comedy with his family. He'll do

1851
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: like some funny racist comedy sho like old people comedy.

1852
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: He can hit like the.

1853
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 5: All.

1854
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he reads the room. Yes, not a one trick

1855
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 2: pony by any means.

1856
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 3: No.

1857
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: Well, great episode and that's been another episode of Games

1858
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:44,320
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1859
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1860
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